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          06:30 P.M. ON OCTOBER 7TH, I'LL CALL THE REGULAR RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD MEETING TO
ORDER. 
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CAN I HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? TOM. GUAM. PRESENT. 
          ALFRED AGUIRRE. PRESENT. WOODSON. FENLON. PRESENT. 
          JOSHUA FRISBY. PRESENT. JOSE. AGUILAR. KRISTIN LANSANA. 
          PRESENT. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. WE NEED ADOPTION OF MINUTES FOR THE AUGUST MEETING. 
          [ADOPTION OF MINUTES]
I NEED A MOTION OR ANY CHANGES. MOTION. 
          SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR NON 
          [PUBLIC COMMENTS]
AGENDA ITEMS BECAUSE THAT'LL ROLL US RIGHT INTO PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR AGENDA ITEMS. SO MR. POPPY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK? SURE. AS FAR AS THE NON AGENDA ITEMS ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO TALK TO THE BOARD ABOUT AND I'M ACTUALLY WEARING IT IS YOU
KNOW, SOMETIME BACK, IT'S PROBABLY ALMOST TWO YEARS AGO WE TALKED ABOUT PICKLEBALL AND WE WENT
THROUGH A VERY EXTENSIVE PROCESS WITH THE BOARD WHERE WE HAD PUBLIC MEETING AND WE HAD PRETTY LARGE INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE NEED OF PICKLEBALL
COURTS IN THE COMMUNITY AND THE FACT THAT MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT PLAYED AND WERE SERIOUS PLAYERS HAD TO GO OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY IN
ORDER TO PLAY. 
          SO BASED ON THAT, THE BOARD DIRECTED ME TO COME BACK WITH SOME PROPOSALS,
WHICH I DID, AND WE CAME UP WITH WITH A PRETTY CONCISE PLAN WHERE WE WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT 3 OR 4 EXISTING PARKS WHERE WE COULD PUT THEM
IN. 
          THE FUNDING WAS AVAILABLE IN IMPACT FEES IN EACH OF THOSE LOCATIONS. 
          I ALSO PROVIDED THE BOARD WITH A COST ESTIMATE THAT I GOT FROM THE VENDOR THAT HAD A STATE
CONTRACT TO DO THE WORK. 
          I BELIEVE FOR EIGHT COURTS. IT WAS AT THAT TIME IT WAS $250,000. 
          AND IF WE WERE GOING TO LIGHT THEM, IT WAS ANOTHER 100,000. 
          SO 350,000 AT THREE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS, I BELIEVE THEY WERE VETERANS PARK,
FRIENDLY PARK AND NUNGESSER, I BELIEVE, WERE THE LOCATIONS WE TALKED ABOUT. 
          WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT BUILDING A TOURNAMENT TYPE FACILITY,
AND WE DIDN'T REALLY AT THAT TIME HAVE A LOCATION IN MIND. 
          BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS LOOKING AT WAS DOING IT IN CONJUNCTION WITH WE WERE
LOOKING AT HAVING A BMX FACILITY, AND WE WERE LOOKING AT THE AREA IN THE COMPOUND WHERE WE HAD A 35 ACRE PARCEL. 
          AND AND NONE OF THOSE ITEMS SEEM TO GET ANY TRACTION WITH MY BOSSES AT THE TIME. 
          AND I BELIEVE, MR. GOMM, YOU YOU PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL THE FINDINGS OF THE BOARD,
THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE BOARD TO BUILD THOSE FACILITIES. 
          THE COUNCIL DIRECTED STAFF TO PURSUE. AND THE RESULT OF THAT WAS A LOT OF TALK,
BUT NO ACTION. AND THERE WERE THINGS SAID THAT, YOU KNOW,
THAT MASTER PLANS WERE NEEDED. 
          AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT IS NOT TRUE. IN THOSE EXISTING FACILITIES THEY PROBABLY DIDN'T
EVEN NEED A SAINT JOHN'S PERMIT BASED ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, AND THAT YOU ALREADY HAD AN ESTABLISHED DRAINAGE BASIN IN THOSE PARTICULAR
AREAS. 
          SO NOT SURE WHY THERE WAS SUCH A RESISTANCE TO THIS,
ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HAD SIGNIFICANT INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY REPRESENTING HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE THAT HAD THIS DESIRE. 
          SO I WOULD ASK YOU TO TRY TO REVISIT THIS WITH THE COUNCIL. 
          YOU'VE GOT YOU'VE GOT SOME NEW MANAGEMENT AND MAYBE,
MAYBE A FRESH SET OF EYES WILL LOOK AT THIS A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY. 
          YOU KNOW, THE RESPONSE I WAS GETTING WAS, YOU KNOW,
WELL, WHAT IF IT'S A FAD? WELL, IT'S NOT IT'S GOING TO BE THE NEXT OLYMPICS. 
          IT'S THE FASTEST GROWING SPORT. SO YOU KNOW YOU'VE GOT PRIVATE INDUSTRY THAT IS BUILDING
INDOOR FACILITIES, SPENDING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN IF IT'S A FAD. 
          SO. SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE BOARD TO PROBABLY READDRESS THIS WITH THE COUNCIL AND SAY,
HEY, LOOK, WE BROUGHT THIS UP BEFORE YOU GUYS SAID TO MOVE AHEAD,
AND IT NEVER WENT ANYWHERE. 
          AND SEE MAYBE IF IT CAN GET SOME TRACTION. I CAN TELL YOU THAT MELBOURNE JUST RECENTLY
DECIDED TO ADD EVEN MORE COURTS AT THEIR JIMMY MOORE FACILITY ON SANO. SO, YOU KNOW,
OUR NEIGHBOR TO THE NORTH HAS FIGURED THIS OUT, 
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THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO TO THEIR CITIZENS. 
          SO I THINK WE OWE THAT AS WELL TO OUR CITIZENS HERE. 
          SO THAT'S AS FAR AS PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR ME. THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU SIR. I CAN SPEAK JUST A LITTLE BIT TO IT. 
          I DID PRESENT IT AT COUNCIL. IT WAS JUST OVER A YEAR AGO BECAUSE IT WAS JUST BEFORE THE
COUNCIL SWITCHED OVER. 
          I BELIEVE IT MAY HAVE BEEN TWO YEARS AGO, ACTUALLY. 
          BUT I'VE BEEN PURSUING IT. AND SHORTLY AFTER ALL THIS GOT APPROVED,
IT GOT. 
          I STARTED ASKING QUESTIONS AND GOT TOLD. WELL,
IT'S KIND OF BEEN PUT ON HOLD UNTIL WE DO A MASTER PLAN. 
          AND SO AND THAT WAS ONLY I'M NOT SURE IF THEY WERE. 
          I DON'T REMEMBER FOR SURE IF IT WAS MASTER PLAN FOR ALL THE PARKS OR MASTER PLAN FOR FRED
POPPY PARK. 
          BUT THAT BEING SAID, THAT'S WHAT I KNOW. I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET THINGS DONE FROM MY SIDE. 
          I KEEP TRACK OF THAT IMPACT FEE MONEY SO I KNOW HOW MUCH IS OUT THERE. 
          BUT AS TO WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED I'LL GIVE DANIEL A CHANCE TO SPEAK TO IT IF HE WISHES TO. 
          ON THE RECORD. I MEAN, ON THE RECORD FOR WITH THE CHANGES IN MANAGEMENT, THERE'S BEEN DIFFERENT DIRECTION GIVEN YOU KNOW,
WE'VE ON OUR THIRD CITY MANAGER WHICH LATER ON THE CITYWIDE PARKS MASTER PLAN IS ON THE AGENDA,
WHICH IS PART OF ADDRESSING THIS. 
          OKAY. SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE. FRED, DID YOU HAVE MORE COMMENTS ON THE MASTER PLAN ITSELF
AS A SEPARATE COMMENT, OTHER THAN WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY SAID WHEN YOU REVIEW IT? I HAVE SOME COMMENTS. 
          OKAY. I'LL LET DANIEL PRESENT IT AND THEN GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO COMMENT,
AND THEN WE'LL BRING IT BACK. 
          ALL RIGHT. SO ON THE SCREEN THIS IS THE FINAL DRAFT OF THE FRED POPPY REGIONAL PARK MASTER
PLAN 
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FROM KIMLEY-HORN. TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE OF WHERE WE ARE ON IT IS WE ARE GIVING KIMLEY-HORN
THE PHASING AND OUR PRIORITIES. IT'S NOT ON YOUR MAPS,
BUT I COULD GO THROUGH THEM. 
          THE PICKLEBALL COURTS WE PUT AS PRIORITY NUMBER ONE BASED ON THE COMMUNITY AND RAB AND
COUNCIL'S DIRECTION. 
          AND FOR PRIORITY NUMBER TWO, WE SELECTED THE AMPHITHEATER AND THE EVENT LAWN BEHIND THE
COMMUNITY CENTER. 
          AND THEN PRIORITY NUMBER THREE, THE YOUTH PRACTICE FIELDS FOR GETTING THOSE UP TO PLAYABLE
FIELDS TO GET ATHLETIC TURF OUT THERE AND GET THEM UP TO GAME FIELD SHAPE. 
          THE NEXT PRIORITY ON THERE WHICH IS NOT ON YOUR,
ON YOUR MAP, WE LISTED IT AS LETTER L. 
          IT'S ACTUALLY SOME DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS ON THE BASEBALL FIELDS. 
          AND THEN THE NEXT PRIORITY WE HAVE IS THE PLAYGROUND GOING IN AT THE SOCCER FIELDS,
WHICH IS I, AND THEN FOLLOWED BY THE PICKLEBALL CLUBHOUSE AND CHAMPIONSHIP COURTS. 
          BUT I DO WANT TO GO ON THAT A LITTLE MORE. I AM GOING TO WORK WITH THE TDC ON APPROACHING
THIS AS ONE LARGER PROJECT TO SEE IF THIS IS SOMETHING WE COULD DO TOGETHER. 
          THAT WAY WE COULD COMBINE PHASE ONE AND TWO OF THE PICKLEBALL COURTS. 
          NEXT PRIORITY IS ADDING ADDITIONAL BASKETBALL COURTS AT H. 
          AND ADDING SOME LOW IMPACT PARKING OVER THERE. 
          AND THEN FOLLOWED BY THE PROPOSED ROUNDABOUTS AND THEN THE,
THE SIGNAGE AT THE ENTRY ROAD AND OBVIOUSLY THE, THE BRIDGE. SO THAT'S ALL THE ENTRY ROAD,
THE BRIDGE AND THE SIGNAGE KIND OF ALL GOES TOGETHER. 
          BUT IT'S ON THIS PLAN. WE DIDN'T LIST AS A HIGH PRIORITY DUE TO IT BEING A SEPARATE
PROJECT. 
          SO THE NEXT STEPS ARE KIMLEY-HORN HAS THIS PHASING. 
          THEY HAVE OUR PRIORITY LIST. SO THEY'RE GOING TO COME BACK WITH THE ESTIMATED COST AND
PLAN ON IMPLEMENTING THIS AT THE REGIONAL PARK 
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SO WE COULD HIT THE GROUND RUNNING. OKAY. I'LL OPEN IT UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          MR.. POPPY. YEAH. I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS THE SAME PLAN THAT I SAW,
BUT DANIEL, THE QUESTION I HAVE IS WHERE'S THE LOCATION FOR THAT MULTI-PURPOSE AREA? BECAUSE THE ONE I SAW WAS BETWEEN THE DOG PARK AND THE. 
          CORRECT. WE MOVED. SO INTERNALLY, WE MOVED THIS TO A D1 AND D2. 
          WE ACTUALLY MOVED D1 OVER TO THE YOUTH PRACTICE FIELDS BECAUSE TO US IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE
TO MAKE A MULTI-PURPOSE FIELD OVER HERE WHERE WE ALREADY HAVE A SOCCER COMPLEX. THAT PARKING, THAT WAS THE MAIN THING I WAS GOING TO ADDRESS. 
          THE HAVING A MULTI-PURPOSE FIELD OVER IN A PASSIVE PARK AREA BETWEEN THE DOG PARK AND THE
PAVILION REALLY GOES AGAINST ALL THE PRINCIPLES OF OF DESIGNING A PARK. THE, THE THE AREA WEST OF THE SOCCER FIELDS IS USUALLY VERY WET. 
          IT'S BEEN USED AS A PRACTICE AREA BY BAYSIDE FOR FOR A LONG TIME,
AND IT WOULD BE MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE AND COST EFFECTIVE TO TO BRING THAT AREA UPWARDS, DRAINING PROPERLY. AND ALSO,
IF YOU DECIDED TO LIGHT IT UP, YOU COULD TIE INTO THE LIGHTS THAT ARE THERE ALREADY. 
          SO FROM AN INFRASTRUCTURE STANDPOINT, YOUR COST WOULD BE A LOT LESS THAN TRYING TO BUILD
SOMETHING BRAND NEW. 
          PLUS YOUR PLUS, YOU'RE ALSO CREATING A SITUATION WHERE IF YOU'VE GOT 100 KIDS PRACTICING
AND PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO BE AT THE DOG PARK, SOCIALIZING AND HAVING THEIR DOGS THERE, AND PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO HAVE A PAVILION AT THE
AT THE SCOUT PAVILION, THAT'S JUST NOT CONDUCIVE. PLUS, YOU WOULD HAVE ALSO HAD HAD TO CREATE MORE SECONDARY
FACILITIES, PARKING, RESTROOMS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 
          SO WHICH YOU ALREADY HAVE IN PLACE IN THE OTHER AREA. 
          SO. SO I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT WAS DONE. THAT THE OTHER THING I KNOW IT'S NOT PART OF THIS,
BUT I DID SEND SOME CONCERNS TO THE COUNCIL THAT I HAD WITH WITH THE BRIDGE. THE CONTRACT WITH KIMLEY-HORN IS AROUND
$500,000 TO DESIGN. 
          THEY'VE HAD THAT CONTRACT FOR, I THINK, CLOSE TO TWO YEARS,
AND THERE'S NOTHING IN PLACE. 
          AND THE LAST COST ESTIMATE THAT I HEARD WAS $5.5 MILLION. 
          THAT, IN MY MIND, IS A COMPLETELY OVERDESIGNED BRIDGE FOR WHAT IS NECESSARY HERE. 
          BACK THREE YEARS AGO, THE THEN PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR,
FRANK WATANABE AND I HAD. 
          HAD COME UP WITH A PLAN THAT WAS GOING TO COST US ABOUT 2.5 MILLION. 
          AND THAT WAS TURNKEY, AND THAT WAS WITH THE PREFABRICATED BRIDGE. 
          OR IT WAS A SIMPLE DESIGN IN OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT WOULD HAVE JUST DESIGNED THE
PEDESTALS THAT WOULD GO ON EITHER SIDE OF THE CANAL. 
          YOU HAVE A PREFAB BRIDGE THAT COMES IN VIA CRANE. 
          YOU SET IT IN PLACE. IT'S VERY SIMPLE. THE DESIGN THAT KIMLEY-HORN IS WORKING ON,
NOT ONLY NOT ONLY IS IT GOING TO BE MORE COMPLEX, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BUILD A TEMPORARY BRIDGE OVER THE CANAL JUST FOR LOGISTICS OF
YOU, YOU KNOW, MOVING EQUIPMENT AND PEOPLE TO BUILD THAT BRIDGE. 
          IN MY OPINION, WAY OVER DESIGNED NOT NECESSARY. 
          SORRY. PREFAB BRIDGE WOULD WOULD SUIT IT JUST FINE. 
          ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS DETERMINE, YOU KNOW, THE HOW BIG A SPAN THEY'RE CROSSING. 
          AND WHAT'S THE THE HEAVIEST PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT'S GOING TO GO ACROSS THERE? PRETTY SIMPLE REALLY. I CAN TELL YOU ALSO THAT THREE YEARS AGO,
WHEN CITY MANAGEMENT DIDN'T LIKE FRANK AND MY, AND MY PLAN APPROACHED DFI, THAT'S A LOCAL CONTRACTOR,
AND THEY BUILD BRIDGES ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, AND THEY'VE ACTUALLY BUILT SOME IN OTHER COUNTRIES. 
          AND THEY OFFERED UP THAT THEY COULD DO A DESIGN BUILD NOT TO EXCEED $3 MILLION. 
          SO THAT ALSO WAS PUSHED ASIDE BECAUSE IT WAS DETERMINED THAT WE WERE NOT GOING TO DO
DESIGN BUILDS, WHICH YOU KNOW, WAS A PHILOSOPHICAL DIFFERENCE,
I GUESS YOU'D SAY. 
          BUT I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY THINK THAT THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT HARD. 
          THAT'S A THAT'S A WE'RE WASTING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF PARKS IMPACT FEES THAT CAN BE PUT
INTO SOME OF THESE OTHER STUFF AND STILL HAVE MONEY LEFT OVER TO DO OTHER THINGS. SO I WOULD IMPLORE THE THE BOARD TO,
TO REALLY MAKE IT CLEAR TO THE COUNCIL THAT THAT THEY REALLY NEED TO TAKE A HARD LOOK AT THAT BRIDGE. 
          IT NEEDS TO BE FUNCTIONAL. IT DOESN'T HAVE DOESN'T HAVE TO BE OVERDESIGNED. 
          IT'S NOT GOING OVER AN INTERSTATE. IT'S NOT,
YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT A TRAIN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT COMING ACROSS IT. 
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SO YOU KNOW, $5.5 MILLION FOR THAT BRIDGE IS JUST WAY TOO MUCH. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I WILL ADDRESS ONE THING. 
          I'M ALSO THE CHAIR OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE BOARD. 
          AND I KNOW WITH THIS NEW CITY MANAGER THAT A LOT OF THINGS ARE FLUID AND UP FOR
REEVALUATION. 
          I'VE SEEN THAT WITH THE ROAD BOND. I'VE SEEN THAT WITH SOME OTHER PROJECTS. 
          MAYBE THAT WILL HAPPEN WITH THE BRIDGE. I KNOW OUR NEW PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR. 
          I'VE WORKED WITH HIM A LITTLE BIT, AND I THINK THAT MAYBE HE COULD LOOK AT THIS. 
          YES, DANIEL. SO, FOR FULL TRANSPARENCY, CITY MANAGEMENT HAS DIRECTED PARKS AND FACILITIES
TO LOOK AT PUTTING IN A MODULAR BRIDGE TO REEVALUATE AND GIVE OPTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS? HEY, DANIEL. WITH THEM DESIGNING THE BRIDGE AND SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE BEING BUILT UP SO
MUCH OUT THERE, IS IT BEING THOUGHT ABOUT LIKE IF THE ROAD EVER GETS WIDENED BECAUSE WE'RE STILL DESIGNING
THE BRIDGE NOW, IS THAT IS THAT AN ISSUE? SO FORTUNATELY I, I CAN'T COMMENT ON THAT. 
          PARKS AND FACILITIES IS REALLY THE OVERSEEING ON THAT PROJECT. 
          I COULD SPEAK TO THAT FROM THE INFRASTRUCTURE SIDE OF IT,
BECAUSE WE'VE LOOKED AT IT FROM THE INFRASTRUCTURE BOARD IS THAT WHOLE INTERSECTION. 
          IT'S GOING TO LINE UP WITH THE EXIT THAT'S CURRENTLY FROM THE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT THERE. 
          SO THERE WILL BE A LIGHT THERE, AND THERE'LL BE A COMPLETE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT WITH
SIDEWALKS AND CROSSWALKS AND LIGHTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. 
          SO THAT'S MAYBE WHERE A LOT OF THIS MONEY IS,
IF IT'S THAT'S THE TOTAL COST OF THE PROJECT, BECAUSE I KNOW WHEN WE TRIED TO GET THE INTERSECTION OF MALABAR AND THE PARKWAY DONE,
THAT THAT WAS PUT OUT THE BID AND THE BIDS CAME BACK SO HIGH, WE'RE JUST DOING THE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS,
THAT THEY HAD TO BREAK IT DOWN INTO SMALLER PIECES. 
          AND THAT'S WHY STILL, EVEN TODAY, WE HAVE TEMPORARY LIGHTS AT THAT INTERSECTION. 
          THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. NEW BUSINESS DISCUSSION TO AMEND THE RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD BYLAWS ON MEETING
FREQUENCY. 
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ARTICLE THREE, SECTION ONE. DANIEL, I'LL LET YOU SPEAK TO THIS A LITTLE BIT AND THEN BRING
IT BACK. 
          YEAH. SO. OVER THE PAST YEAR, YOU KNOW, WE'VE NOTICED SEVERAL OF THE BOARD MEETINGS BEING
RESCHEDULED OR CANCELED, WHETHER THEY'RE THE CONFLICTS WITH THE MAJOR CITY EVENTS OR MEETING QUORUM. 
          SO WE STARTED BRAINSTORMING AND WE THINK TO MAKE THE BEST USE OF EVERYONE'S TIME,
PROPOSING TO ADJUST THE MEETING FREQUENCY TO EITHER BI MONTHLY OR QUARTERLY. THIS CHANGE WOULD GIVE STAFF MORE TIME TO PREPARE IN-DEPTH
REPORTS AND UPDATES FOR THE BOARD. 
          AND THEN THAT WAY WE COULD HAVE A FOCUS ON MORE MORE TOPICS,
STRATEGIC PLANNING AND ACTIONABLE ITEMS RATHER THAN OUR ROUTINE UPDATES THAT WE ARE USUALLY GIVING. SO WHAT YOU HAVE IS A SHEET HERE. 
          STAFF WENT THROUGH BASED ON HISTORY, AND WE GAVE AN OPTION OF THE WHAT A QUARTERLY
SCHEDULE WILL SOMEWHAT LOOK LIKE AND WHAT BI MONTHLY WILL LOOK LIKE JUST BASED ON HISTORY WHEN WE MOVE MEETINGS AROUND OUR EVENTS. 
          SO WE JUST WANTED TO PROPOSE THAT OPTION FOR YOU. 
          OKAY. ONE COMMENT I HAD WAS I WANTED THE BOARD TO BE MORE INVOLVED IN THINGS PRIOR TO THEM
TAKING PLACE, RATHER THAN AFTER THEY'D BEEN PLANNED AND OR ALREADY TAKEN PLACE. 
          SUCH AS UPCOMING. YOU KNOW, WE'RE OCTOBER, SO NOVEMBER,
WE GOT THE VETERANS DAY PARADE, DECEMBER, WE'VE GOT THE HOLIDAY PARADE, THE TREE LIGHTING,
EVERYTHING ELSE. 
          SO IN THE FUTURE, IF WE COULD TALK ABOUT THOSE THINGS FOR THE UPCOMING PERIOD BEFORE THE
NEXT MEETING THAT'D BE APPRECIATED. 
          ANYBODY ELSE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION? DO YOU WANT TO DO EVERY OTHER MONTH OR EVERY QUARTER? WELL, I THINK THE EVERY MONTH IS IS GOOD. BUT IF WE PLAN TO CHANGE IT,
I THINK THE EVERY OTHER MONTH WOULD BE MORE SUITABLE THAN, I THINK QUARTERLY GOING TO BE TOO FAR APART. AND WITH ALL THESE DEVELOPMENT GOING ON,
WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, UPDATED. WELL LET ME I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT,
BUT LET ME SAY THIS. 
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ONE OF THE REASONS FOR DOING THIS IS BECAUSE WE DON'T GET QUORUMS. WE WASTE A LOT OF STAFF TIME AND A LOT OF MONEY AND EVERYTHING FOR PEOPLE TO SHOW UP HERE, AND WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM, AND WE ALL TURN AROUND AND GO HOME AND NOTHING GETS
ACCOMPLISHED. 
          SO IF WE'RE GOING TO DO EVERY OTHER MONTH, I WANT A COMMITMENT FROM THE BOARD THAT YOU'RE
GOING TO BE HERE, RIGHT? YEAH, THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE STILL. 
          BUT YEAH, THINGS ARE GOING TO COME UP EVERY NOW AND THEN,
BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          BUT BUT THERE'S SEVEN OF US. WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET FOUR OF US IN THE SAME ROOM,
RIGHT? THAT'S TRUE. YEAH. SO WHAT DO YOU SUGGEST, A QUARTERLY MEETING? I'M FINE EITHER WAY, BECAUSE I'M GOING TO BE JUST AS INVOLVED NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS,
RIGHT? RIGHT, RIGHT. YEAH. SO JUST TO ADD ON THAT, WHAT'S THE THOUGHTS OF JUST GOING TO EVERY
OTHER MONTH AT FIRST. AND THEN IF WE FEEL LIKE WE'RE STILL NOT IF WE'RE JUST KIND OF,
YOU KNOW, WASTING TIME AT THIS POINT, GOING TO QUARTERLY AFTERWARDS, WE CAN REVISIT IT. 
          YES. I'LL MOTION EVERY OTHER MONTH THEN. YEAH,
I'LL SECOND THAT. 
          ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YEAH, I SECOND IT. GO AHEAD. 
          NO. OKAY, OKAY. NO OTHER COMMENTS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. UNANIMOUS. NEW BUSINESS,
ITEM NUMBER TWO. 
          DANIEL, PLEASE GO AHEAD. YEAH. SO THIS ITEM IS JUST TO KIND OF PIGGYBACK WHAT YOU JUST
VOTED ON HERE. 
          BECAUSE THE WAY THE BYLAWS ARE WRITTEN, THEY TECHNICALLY HAVE YOU UPDATING GIVING AN
UPDATE TO COUNCIL MONTHLY. 
          SO THIS IS JUST TO FALL IN LINE WITH THE CHANGE THAT YOU JUST VOTED FOR. 
          SO THE MOTION WOULD BE TO BE TO CHANGE THE BYLAWS. 
          ARTICLE FOUR, SECTION FOUR, TO BE IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE SCHEDULE,
RATHER THAN SAYING EVERY MONTH OR EVERY OTHER MONTH, CORRECT, IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE SCHEDULED MEETINGS. 
          YEP. AND THEN IF THERE'S NO MEETING TO THE LACK OF A QUORUM,
YOU HAVE TO SUBMIT A REPORT. 
          YEP. A MOTION NOT OKAY. HAVE A MOTION. AND A SECOND. 
          SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. NUMBER THREE. STAFF UPDATE ON CITYWIDE PARKS AND RECREATION MASTER PLAN. 
          ALL RIGHT. FOR THIS ITEM I DID TYPE UP KIND OF WHAT I WANTED TO EXPLAIN WITH THE CITYWIDE
PARKS MASTER PLAN. AND THIS ISN'T TO SAY WE CAN'T DO PROJECTS UNTIL THE MASTER PLAN IS FINISHED. 
          THAT THOSE ARE TWO SEPARATE ITEMS. SO I TYPED THIS UP. 
          SO I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH IT. SO IT'S BEEN NEARLY 20 YEARS SINCE PALM BAY LAST COMPLETED
CITYWIDE PARKS AND RECREATION MASTER PLAN, AND THE CITY HAS CHANGED DRAMATICALLY SINCE THEN. 
          THIS PLAN ISN'T ABOUT BUILDING BIG OR EXPENSIVE PROJECT. 
          IT'S ABOUT PLANNING SMARTER. IT WILL GIVE US THAT 10,000 FOOT VIEW OF OUR ENTIRE PARK
SYSTEM SO WE COULD USE THE IMPACT FEES EFFICIENTLY, TARGET LAND ACQUISITION WISELY, AND MAKE SURE WE'RE GETTING THE MOST VALUE OUT OF EVERY
DOLLAR. 
          ONE WAY TO LOOK AT THIS IS THE CITYWIDE PARKS AND RECREATION MASTER PLAN IS GOING TO BE A
MAP. 
          AND BECAUSE WE HAD THE FRED POPPY REGIONAL PARK MASTER PLAN TO COMPARE THAT,
THAT IS MORE OF A BLUEPRINT. 
          THE CITYWIDE PLAN SHOWS THE ROUTE FOR HOW OUR PARKS,
TRAILS AND RECREATION SYSTEMS SHOULD GROW, MODERNIZING WHAT WE HAVE TODAY WITH AN EYE FORWARD TOWARD FAIR ACCESS,
PRACTICAL IMPROVEMENTS, AND LONG TERM COMMUNITY BENEFIT. THE FRED POPPY REGIONAL PARK MASTER PLAN,
ON THE OTHER HAND, ZOOMS IN ON ONE SPECIFIC DESTINATION AND IS MORE OF A DETAILED DESIGN AND ENGINEERING FOR
A SINGLE PARK. 
          ANOTHER WAY TO LOOK AT THIS IS THE CITY WIDE MASTER PLAN IS MORE LIKE A SOLVED PUZZLE,
SHOWING HOW EVERY PARKING FACILITY WILL FIT TOGETHER INTO ONE COMPLETE PICTURE, AND THE REGIONAL PARK MASTER PLAN IS MORE LIKE A DETAILED PIECE OF THAT PUZZLE,
AND IT WILL BE INCORPORATED INTO THE LARGER MASTER PLAN. 
          THIS PLAN WILL ASSESS CURRENT AND FUTURE PARKS AND RECREATIONAL NEEDS SO WE COULD
PRIORITIZE REHABILITATION PROJECTS, NEW PROGRAMS, AND FACILITY UPGRADES IN A WAY THAT'S FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE,
EFFICIENT EFFICIENT, AND PUBLICLY SUPPORTED. IT'LL HELP US ESTABLISH A LONG RANGE,
A LONG RANGE VISION WITH CLEAR IMPLEMENTATION STEPS, ENSURING THAT OUR INVESTMENTS OVER THE NEXT DECADE ARE STRATEGIC,
BALANCED, AND GROUNDED IN REAL DATA. 
          IT ALSO HELPS MAINTAIN THE LEGAL NEXUS FOR OUR IMPACT FEES,
ENSURING THEY'RE BASED ON ACTUAL GROWTH IN PARK DEMAND, 
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KEEPING THE PROGRAM DEFENSIBLE AND FAIR FOR BOTH RESIDENTS AND DEVELOPERS. 
          IT WILL ALSO GIVE US THE DATA AND JUSTIFICATION NEEDED TO UPDATE THE PARKS AND RECREATION
SECTION OF OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, ALIGNING WITH CITYWIDE GROWTH POLICIES AND SECURING STRONGER DEVELOPER CONTRIBUTION AS NEW
COMMUNITIES ARE BUILT. 
          BEYOND GROWTH, THE PLAN STRENGTHENS ASSET MANAGEMENT AND CAPITAL PLANNING,
IDENTIFYING WHERE SMALLER UPGRADES OR PARTNERSHIPS CAN HAVE THE GREATEST IMPACT WITHOUT FULL REBUILDS. IT WILL HELP US ALIGN OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM WITH ACTUAL COMMUNITY
PRIORITIES, ENSURING EVERY DOLLAR IS USED EFFICIENTLY BY REVIEWING PARK ACCESS DISTRIBUTION
CONNECTIVITY. 
          IT WILL ALSO HELP FILL SERVICE GAPS AND MAKE SURE RESOURCES ARE DISTRIBUTED FAIRLY ACROSS
THE CITY. 
          THE PROCESS WILL ALSO STRENGTHEN COMMUNITY SUPPORT AND PARTNERSHIPS,
ENGAGING RESIDENTS AND LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS PROVIDING VALUABLE INSIGHT. 
          IT WILL ENCOURAGE PUBLIC BUY IN AND HELP BUILD SHARED PRIDE IN THE PARK SYSTEM. 
          THIS COLLABORATION SUPPORTS TRANSPARENCY, PROMOTES ACCOUNTABILITY,
AND ENSURES THE PLAN REFLECTS THE REAL NEEDS AND EXPECTATIONS OF PALM BAY RESIDENTS. 
          IT'S ALSO THE KEY TO UNLOCKING FUNDING. A CURRENT MASTER PLAN STRENGTHENS OUR GRANT
APPLICATION AND OPENS THE DOOR TO OPPORTUNITIES WE MAY NOT HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY ELIGIBLE FOR. JUST TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, I WAS JUST AT THE NCPA,
WHICH IS THE NATIONAL RECREATION AND PARKS ASSOCIATION CONFERENCE, AND I SAT IN ON THE FEDERAL LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION GRANT CLASS AND THEIR GRANT TEAM
LED THAT THAT CLASS. AND WHAT THEY EXPRESSED WAS 99% OF THE PROJECTS THAT ARE SUBMITTED BY STATES
INCLUDE AN UPDATED MASTER PLAN. SO WHAT WE COULD TAKE FROM THAT IS MOST STATES ARE NOT FORWARDING PROJECTS
THAT DO NOT DEMONSTRATE A CLEAR NEED OR PLANNING. AND JUST LIKE AN INVESTMENT PORTFOLIO,
THIS PLAN IS NOT GOING TO SIT ON THE SHELF FOR 20 YEARS. 
          THE INDUSTRY STANDARD IS TO UPDATE IT EVERY 5 TO 7 YEARS. 
          REBALANCING BASED ON OUR RESIDENTS NEED POPULATION CHANGES AND RECREATION TRENDS. 
          ONCE THIS FIRST PLAN IS ESTABLISHED, EACH UPDATE BECOMES FASTER,
MORE COST EFFECTIVE, AND KEEPS US READY TO CAPITALIZE ON NEW OPPORTUNITIES AS THEY ARISE. 
          AND FINALLY, YOUR INPUT AS THE APPOINTED RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD. 
          YOU'RE GOING TO BE ESSENTIAL THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS. 
          YOUR INSIGHT, EXPERIENCE AND AND OPINIONS ARE GOING TO HELP ENSURE THAT THE PLAN STAYS
PRACTICAL FOR THINKING AND REFLECTING ON OUR COMMUNITY'S VALUES. 
          SO, AGAIN, THIS PLAN ISN'T GOING TO BE A SIT ON THE SHELF. 
          IT'S GOING TO BE A ROADMAP FOR RESPONSIBLE INVESTMENT,
EFFICIENT GROWTH, AND A HIGH QUALITY PARK SYSTEM THAT STRENGTHENS PALM BAY REPUTATION AS A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE, WORK AND PLAY. AND TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE OF WHERE WE ARE ON IT. 
          SO WE DO HAVE CONTINUING CONTRACTS WITH CONSULTANTS THAT DO MASTER PLANNING. 
          WE DID SIT DOWN WITH ALL THREE THAT ARE ON A CONTINUING CONTRACT. 
          BASED ON ALL THE STAFF'S INPUT IN THE PRESENTATIONS THEY GAVE US WE DID SELECT TO START
NEGOTIATIONS AND TALKING WITH GI SOLUTIONS. THEY SEEM TO HAVE MORE OF THE MASTER PLANNING AND VISION AND ACTUALLY WORKING WITH THE PUBLIC INPUT THAT ADVISORY BOARDS AND THE COUNCILS WHEN THE
OTHER TWO CONSULTANTS SEEM TO BE MORE DESIGN AND ENGINEERING BASED, WHICH WOULD BE THE NEXT STEP ONCE YOU START IMPLEMENTING THE
PROJECTS FROM THE MASTER PLANS. 
          OKAY, SO THERE'S NO ACTION NEEDED. I JUST WANTED TO PRESENT THAT TO GIVE YOU GUYS AN
UPDATE OF WHERE WE ARE ON IT. 
          YOU KNOW, ANY COMMENTS AND OPINIONS? WE'LL TAKE IT ALL IN AS WE START THIS PROCESS. 
          WE'RE VERY EARLY ON. WE'RE JUST WAITING ON PRICING TO COME IN FROM THE CONSULTANT OF WHAT
THIS WOULD LOOK LIKE IF THEY WERE TO DO THIS FROM THE VERY BEGINNING TO THE VERY END. AND THEN WE GO THROUGH A PROCESS OF NEGOTIATING
IF THERE'S ITEMS WE COULD DO IN-HOUSE TO START TO TRY TO BRING THAT COST DOWN. AND AS FAR AS FUNDING, THIS IS GOING TO COME FROM IMPACT FEES. 
          IT'S NOT GOING TO BE FROM GENERAL FUND. I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION. 
          DEMOGRAPHICS. I LOOK AT FRED POPPY PARK AND ALL THE DEVELOPMENT AROUND THERE AND ALL THE
DEVELOPMENT IS 55 AND OVER. 
          [00:30:02]
WE HAVE ONE PLAYGROUND. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING ANOTHER PLAYGROUND IN. I KNOW
GRANDPARENTS TAKE THEIR KIDS TO THERE, BUT THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF HOW DO DEMOGRAPHICS PLAY A PART IN WHAT IS DECIDED AND WHAT GOES AND WHAT PARKS. 
          SO SPEAKING WITH THE CONSULTANT, ONE THING THEY WORK WITH IS OUR GROWTH AND LAND
DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT FOR WHAT PROJECTS ARE BEING PROPOSED, WHAT'S COMING DOWN THE PIPELINE. 
          SO THEY COULD INCORPORATE THOSE INTO THE MASTER PLAN. 
          OBVIOUSLY, WE CAN'T SEE WHAT HASN'T BEEN PROPOSED YET,
BUT EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE FOR THEM, THEY ARE GOING TO USE THAT TO COME UP WITH I ALMOST WANT TO SAY THIS IS LIKE A VERY
PERSONAL PLAN. IT'S VERY SPECIFIC TO OUR CITY'S NEEDS. 
          IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A BLANKET PLAN. THAT'S JUST KIND OF FILL IN THE BLANKS ON A TEMPLATE. 
          IS THIS LIKE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHERE WE CAN MAKE,
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY CALL IT, SMALL CHANGES. 
          OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE KIND OF ARE SETTING IN STONE AND SAYING,
THIS IS A DIRECTION WE'RE GOING? SO WHEN THE MASTER PLANS DEVELOP, IT'S GOING TO COME TO YOU GUYS YOU KNOW,
IN THE FINAL STAGES FOR ANY CHANGES WE WANT TO MAKE, THEN IT'S GOING TO GO TO COUNCIL FOR ADOPTION. 
          NOW, WHEN IT COMES TO THE ACTUAL PROJECTS IN THAT MASTER PLAN,
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE DISCRETION KIND OF BASED ON FUNDING, BASED ON TIMING, BASED ON BOARD DIRECTION. YOU KNOW,
JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING'S LISTED AS NUMBER ONE DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE TO DO THAT AS OUR FIRST PROJECT. RIGHT? SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FLEXIBILITY. 
          AND THEN THE GOAL IS TO UPDATE THIS EVERY 5 TO 7 YEARS WITH UPDATED DATA WITH THE
POPULATION GROWTH. 
          YEAH, YEAH. DEFINITELY. DEFINITELY. WE NEED TO UPGRADE A LOT. 
          EARLIER THAN 20 YEARS. BUT DID WE IDENTIFY ANY OTHER PROPERTY FOR FOR PARKS? BECAUSE WE DEFINITELY NEED SOME MORE LOCATION WITH THE POPULATION WE HAVE,
YOU KNOW, 50,000 PEOPLE IN THE PAST 4 OR 5 YEARS. 
          WE NEED A LOT OF A LOT MORE PARKS AROUND THE AROUND THE CITY. 
          YOU KNOW, I'M A SOCCER FAN, AND I'M, I'M STILL LOOKING FOR I'M STILL LOOKING TO GET SOME
SOCCER FIELD GOING BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A FEW DOWN THERE AT AT FRED PARK,
BUT IT IS DOMINATED BY ONE GROUP. 
          I DON'T I DON'T REALLY THINK THAT'S RIGHT EITHER. 
          I WOULD, I WOULD MIND IF THIS CAN COME UP WHERE WE CAN DO ANY KIND OF CHANGES ON THAT OR
SOME RESCHEDULING, BUT WE DEFINITELY HAVE A GOOD LEAGUE GOING AND IT'S NEED IT. 
          NEED MORE SPACE EVERY TIME. YOU KNOW, I TOLD HIM YOU SAID DANIEL A FEW TIMES ABOUT IT. 
          SO DEFINITELY WE WOULD LIKE TO PUT THAT IN THE MASTER PLAN WHERE WE UTILIZE UP ALL THE
SPACE WE HAVE. 
          YES, SIR. YEAH. AND JUST JUST TO GO ON THAT,
YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT THE LAND AND WHAT'S BEEN IDENTIFIED TALKING TO LAND DEVELOPMENT. WHAT WHAT'S HAPPENED BASED ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT
WE'VE HAD IS, FOR SOME REASON, HOW OUR ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN. 
          IT'S DEVELOPERS COME IN, THEY IT'S EITHER IMPACT FEES OR THEY COULD DONATE LAND. 
          A LOT HAVE CHOSEN TO DONATE SOME LAND, BUT THEIR PIECES OF LAND,
WE CAN'T REALLY USE THEIR SMALL QUARTER ACRE LOTS. 
          THEY'RE THEY'RE ON A CUL DE SAC. LIKE IF YOU GO ON A PROPERTY APPRAISERS,
YOU'LL FIND THE WEIRDEST AREAS. 
          THAT CITY OF PALM BAY OWNS LAND. SO I KNOW THE MANAGEMENT TEAM THERE. 
          THEY'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, TAKING INVENTORY OF ALL OUR LAND. 
          YOU KNOW, SEEING WHAT COULD BE USED, WHAT COULD BE SURPLUSED. 
          AND THEN OBVIOUSLY, THROUGH THIS MASTER PLANNING PROCESS,
THERE'S DEFINITELY GOING TO BE SOME THERE'LL BE IDENTIFICATION OF LAND, HOW MUCH LAND WE NEED, WHAT, WHAT TYPES OF LANDS. 
          AND A LOT OF THAT INFORMATION WE DO HAVE. AND THAT'S,
THAT'S WHY I SAID WE'D BE WE GET INTO THIS NEGOTIATION PHASE OF WHAT WE COULD DO IN-HOUSE AND WHAT, YOU KNOW, WE WANT THE CONSULTANT TO DO. 
          SO SO THAT'S THAT'S HOW THAT IS. IT ANYTHING ELSE? AND THEN SOCCER FIELDS GOING BACK TO THE REGIONAL PARK MASTER PLAN. 
          THAT'S WHY WE MOVED THAT, THAT SOCCER FIELD UP TO,
YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE TOP THREE PRIORITIES BECAUSE WE KNOW IT'S A NEED. 
          WE'RE, YOU KNOW, RECREATION. WE'RE DEALING WITH THE SCHEDULING CONSTANTLY AND THE FIELD
CLOSURES AND EVERYTHING. 
          AND WITH ALL THIS RAIN WE'VE HAD. THANK YOU SIR. 
          I HAVE A QUESTION. YOU KNOW MY PASSION ABOUT WATER SAFETY. 
          [00:35:01]
SO I'M JUST GOING TO ASK IF THERE ARE ANY PLANS IN THE MASTER PLAN FOR A NEW POOL OR TO
EXPAND THE EXISTING CAPACITY AT THE PALM BAY AQUATIC CENTER. 
          SO RIGHT NOW, THE AQUATIC CENTER IS ACTUALLY THERE WAS A CONTRACT DONE TO GET SOME DESIGN
AND ENGINEERING TO MAKE IT MORE EFFICIENT. SO WE DON'T HAVE AS MANY SHUTDOWNS WITH THE SYSTEM. 
          SOME OF THE STUFF IS OUTDATED. AND WE HAVE DIFFERENT TYPES OF POOL TECHNOLOGY THAT WERE
PUT IN AT SEPARATE TIMES. 
          AND NOW, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT TALKING TO EACH OTHER. 
          SO THAT IS COMING DOWN THE PIPELINE. SO ONCE WE GET THAT,
IT'S KIND OF THE SAME THING. 
          YOU GET THE DESIGN AND ENGINEERING AND THEN YOU'LL,
YOU KNOW, BRING IT TO BID FOR, YOU KNOW, GOING OUT FOR A CONTRACT ON THAT NOW, TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA,
THIS MASTER PLAN, WHAT I'M BRINGING TO YOU IS JUST WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING AND BRINGING THIS MASTER PLAN TO THE CITY. YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO BE HEAVILY INVOLVED IN
BRINGING THOSE THINGS WITH THE CONSULTANT. 
          SO WHEN THEY COME, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS EXPRESS,
YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE NEEDS IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          THEY ALSO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, PRIVATE ORGANIZATIONS AND WHAT'S BEING OFFERED. 
          SO WE WE ARE ABLE TO SEE WHAT IS BEING OFFERED,
EVEN THOUGH IT MAY NOT BE OFFERED THROUGH THE CITY. 
          SO WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT. AND THEN THAT'S GOING TO HELP US PLACE THESE
FACILITIES IN THE CORRECT SPOTS. 
          THAT BROUGHT TWO QUESTIONS TO MY MIND. I'VE ALWAYS LOOKED AT THE POOL AS A CAPACITY ISSUE, NOT A CAPACITY OF HOW MANY PEOPLE CAN WE FIT IN THE POOL,
BUT HOW MANY GROUPS CAN WE SCHEDULE AND AND STILL MEET THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY? I KNOW THE POOL HAS AN ISSUE. IT SEEMS AS THOUGH SOCCER HAS THE SAME KIND OF ISSUE WITH
CAPACITY. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY STUDIES OR ANY NUMBERS THAT SHOW,
YOU KNOW, DO WE HAVE ISSUES WITH BASEBALL FIELDS, SOFTBALL FIELDS, FOOTBALL FIELDS? SO AT THIS TIME,
RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T HAVE THE ISSUES WITH THE FOOTBALL FIELDS. 
          THE ONLY TIME WE HAVE ANY ISSUES, IF, YOU KNOW,
WE GET EXCESSIVE RAIN OR YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME TYPE OF OVERUSE WITH PRACTICING OR, YOU KNOW, NOT ALL THE TIME, YOU COULD CONTROL PEOPLE USING THOSE FIELDS WHEN YOU KNOW THE
LEAGUES AREN'T RUNNING. 
          AS FAR AS MY EXPERIENCE SO FAR HERE, I HAVE NOT HEARD ISSUES FROM BASEBALL OR SOFTBALL. 
          IT SEEMS TO REALLY BE THOSE KEY THINGS OF SOCCER PICKLEBALL AND AQUATICS. 
          AND THE RECENT POOL ISSUES ARE ACCOUNTED TO. WORN OUT HARDWARE OR ROUTINE MAINTENANCE OR. 
          THAT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS DONE. I WISH JOSH. 
          JOSH HAS BEEN SUPER INVOLVED IN THIS, AND I WISH JOSH WAS HERE BECAUSE HE COULD REALLY GO
INTO DEPTH ON IT BECAUSE HE, HE WORKS WITH KATIE, OUR AQUATICS MANAGER, PRETTY MUCH ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS WITH
EVERYTHING GOING ON THERE. 
          SO I CAN'T REALLY EXPAND ON THAT, BUT THAT'S A GOOD NOTE TO HAVE FOR THE NEXT MEETING TO,
TO GET HIS OPINION AND EXPERIENCE ON IT, ACTUALLY, WHEN, WHEN HE, I UNDERSTAND HE HAD A FAMILY EMERGENCY,
BUT COULD YOU ASK HIM TO JUST DRAFT AN EMAIL TO THE BOARD TO UPDATE US ON WHAT THE ISSUES ARE THERE? I KNOW MY TIME, SEVERAL YEARS ON THE BOARD. 
          IT SEEMS LIKE ONCE A YEAR WE'RE SPENDING AT LEAST UNBUDGETED MILLION DOLLARS ON THAT POOL. 
          YEAH. ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEM WE HAVE IN IN OUR CITY IS UPGRADE. 
          EVERYTHING IS SO FAR BEHIND. WORN OUT. YOU KNOW,
EVERYTHING. 
          EVEN THE FIELDS. THE FIELDS HAS TO MAINTAIN REGULARLY. 
          IT HAS TO BE BUILT UP. IT GOT TO BE, YOU KNOW,
TRAMPLING, PLAYING ON THE GROUND OVER THE YEARS WILL KIND OF CHANGE THE LANDSCAPE. 
          YOU HAVE TO BUILD IT OUT, PUT IN A FEW LOADS OF STUFF IN THERE THAT IT CAN DRAIN,
YOU KNOW, A LOT OF MAINTENANCE NEEDED TO KEEP THESE THINGS GOING. 
          THE POOL, THE AQUATIC CENTER NEED A SERIOUS UPGRADE. 
          EVERYTHING IS WAY BACK, YOU KNOW, AND EXTENDING,
YOU KNOW, THE LANES AND ALL THAT, IF IT'S POSSIBLE. 
          WHAT ABOUT THE SENIOR CENTER? THE WHAT ARE WE IN IN THIS MASTER PLAN,
WE'RE DOING ANY KIND OF COMMUNITY CENTER IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY BECAUSE THIS IS IT BAD. YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T EVEN HAVE A GOOD MEETING. 
          SO AGAIN, LIKE I EXPLAINED, THE PROCESS OF THE MASTER PLAN IS WHERE ALL THESE IDEAS AND
NEEDS COME IN. 
          SO ONCE THE FINAL MASTER PLAN IS PRESENTED TO US,
IT'S GOING TO HIGHLIGHT THOSE NEEDS. 
          [00:40:06]
SO AFTER ALL THE DATA IS TAKEN, THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT,
THE THE THE PUBLIC WORKSHOPS, THE, YOU KNOW, THE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD,
COUNCIL, THEN EVERYTHING IS PUT TOGETHER AND GIVEN IN A PLAN TO STRATEGIZE AND IMPLEMENT. YOU KNOW, WHETHER I CAN'T TELL YOU IF A COMMUNITY CENTER IS
GOING TO BE NUMBER ONE HIGH PRIORITY? I COULD TELL YOU, 20 YEARS AGO, ONE OF THE TOP PRIORITIES WAS LIKE A AND I KNOW MR. POPPY WAS PART OF THAT. IT WAS LIKE A CIVIC,
ALMOST ENGAGEMENT, MUSEUM TYPE CENTER. 
          FOR, YOU KNOW, CULTURAL THINGS, KIND OF LIKE AN INDOOR AMPHITHEATER. 
          AND TO HAVE THAT, THAT THAT MAY NOT BE A TYPE TOP PRIORITY,
YOU KNOW, 20 YEARS LATER. 
          SO WE HAVE TO WAIT ON THE DATA TO COME IN AND EVERYTHING BE PUT TOGETHER,
AND THEN THAT'S GOING TO GET PRESENTED TO YOU. 
          AND LIKE I SAID, YOU'RE GOING TO BE PART OF THAT PROCESS. 
          SO YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO EXPRESS TO THE CONSULTANT WHAT YOU GUYS ARE LOOKING FOR AS
WELL. 
          YEAH, WE NEED THAT MAN, THE O'GALLEY. O'GALLEY CIVIC CENTER IS THERE. 
          AND THAT'S A SMALL TOWN. WE ARE THE LARGEST CITY. 
          AND IF WE IF WE NEED TO HAVE AN ENGAGEMENT, WE HAVE TO GO TO MELBOURNE OR WEST MELBOURNE. 
          LOOK AT WEST MELBOURNE, YOU KNOW, SO SMALL. IT'S A SHAME,
YOU KNOW, FOR THE BEST CITY IN THE WORLD. 
          COME ON MAN. WE NEED A WE NEED A CIVIC CENTER. 
          DANIEL, I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE LIKE THE MASTER FILE? WHERE IS THE INFORMATION COMING FROM? LIKE SAYING WHAT WE NEED? SO I KNOW IT COMES FROM, LIKE, THE RECREATION BOARD AND STUFF LIKE THAT. AND WE ALL HAVE
OUR PREFERENCES. YOU KNOW, I LIKE TO GOLF. 
          HE LIKES SOCCER, YOU KNOW, AND STUFF LIKE THAT. 
          BUT THAT'S NOT SAYING THAT'S WHAT'S ALWAYS BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY. 
          WHERE WHERE IS THAT COMING FROM? SO WHAT WE WOULD DO IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CONSULTANT IS
HOLD PUBLIC WORKSHOPS AROUND THE CITY. 
          SO WE'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, TRY TO WE'RE NOT JUST GOING TO HOLD THEM HERE AT CITY HALL. 
          WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO GO TO WHERE THERE'S NO FACILITIES AND,
YOU KNOW, ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY OUT THERE. 
          THE CONSULTANT HAS A LOT MORE TOOLS AND RESOURCES THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO USE FOR SURVEYING
THAT WE DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO, OR WE WILL BE GOING OUT TO BID TO, YOU KNOW,
TRY TO GET THOSE SOFTWARE COMPANIES TO DO THAT TYPE OF RESEARCH FOR US. 
          AND THE CONSULTANTS ALREADY HAVE THAT IN THEIR TOOL BELT,
SO THEY'RE ABLE TO GET A LOT A BIGGER REACH. 
          AND THEY, THEY COMPARE THEIR RESULTS, YOU KNOW,
USING, USING A LOT OF THE STATISTICAL DATA THAT THAT'S PROVEN THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, TAKE THOSE SAMPLE SIZES AND COMPARE THEM TO THE LARGER COMMUNITY. 
          SO ONE OF THE BIG THINGS I EMPHASIZED WITH THEM WAS I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE DO
THIS, WE PRETTY MUCH PUT MAXIMUM EFFORT IN THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PORTION OF IT,
BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO HAVE A FEW PUBLIC MEETINGS AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE SAME FEW PEOPLE JUST SHOW UP TO THEM ALL. 
          I REALLY WANT WHAT WHAT THE IDEA, HOW I LOOK AT IT IS WE ALMOST KNOW WHAT OUR USERS WANT. 
          WHO ARE THE PEOPLE THAT AREN'T USING OUR STUFF AND WHY? WHAT DO THEY WANT? AND THAT, YOU KNOW, IT KIND OF COMES TO THAT 9010 WHERE WE'RE PROBABLY
ONLY SERVING 10%. 
          THAT 90% IS NOT COMING OUT PUBLICLY AND GIVING US THAT INFORMATION. 
          SO THE GOAL IS TO GET TO THAT 90% AND SEE WHAT THEY WANT. 
          I AGREE, THANK YOU. GOOD. ANYTHING ELSE? ANYTHING THE BOARD WANT TO SEE AT OUR NEXT
MEETING, 
          [REPORTS]
WHICH WILL BE IN. FEBRUARY? YES, IT WILL BE IN FEBRUARY. 
          EMILY AND I WENT THROUGH A LOT OF THE HISTORY AND A LOT OF THE NOVEMBER,
DECEMBER AND JANUARY MEETINGS ARE JUST ALWAYS MOVE, WHETHER IT'S HOLIDAYS OR PARADE, WHATEVER IT IS. 
          AND MR. GUAM, AS WE TALKED ABOUT GETTING THE BOARD MORE INVOLVED IN THE PLANNING GOING
FORWARD. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, I CAN'T DO IT AT THIS MEETING. 
          OUR EVENT SEASON IS ALREADY HERE. BUT THAT IS SOMETHING. 
          WHEN WE COME BACK IN FEBRUARY, I HAVE A LIST OF ALL THE UPCOMING STUFF. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, WE COULD START THAT ENGAGEMENT WITH YOU GUYS. 
          ONE OF THE REASONS I ASKED FOR THAT IS WE GET THAT INFORMATION OUT IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          I MEAN, I HAVE A LOT OF CONTACTS. I KNOW OTHER MEMBERS OF THE BOARD HAVE A LOT OF
CONTACTS. 
          I SEE CALLS GOING OUT FOR VOLUNTEERS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. 
          IF WE CAN GET THAT OUT EARLIER IF WE CAN USE OUR CONTACTS TO HELP GET SPONSORSHIPS OR
WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, THAT'S PART OF BEING A BOARD MEMBER IF YOU HAVE THAT CONTACT,
IS TO TRY TO LEVERAGE THAT. 
          [00:45:06]
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING? OH, MR.. POPPY, YOU HAD A FINAL COMMENT YOU WANTED TO MAKE? YEAH. IF YOU WOULD INDULGE, INDULGE ME A COUPLE OF THINGS REGARDING THE MASTER PLAN THAT
DANIEL TALKED ABOUT. 
          THE THE THE AREA BEHIND THE COMMUNITY CENTER WHERE THE EVENTS AREA. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD ENCOURAGE IS FOR THEM TO LOOK AT WE HAD A PLAN IN PLACE FOR
UNDERGROUND ELECTRIC, AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE FACILITIES DEPARTMENT HAS SHELVED THAT. 
          THE FUNDING AND THE DESIGN OF THAT WAS ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF. 
          AND, AND SO I THINK THAT THAT'S AN IT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF THAT. 
          AND SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT, THAT THAT BE GONE BACK TO AND LOOKED AT. 
          I MEAN, WE SPENT MONEY ON, ON A VERY GOOD DESIGN FOR UNDERGROUND ELECTRIC THAT WOULD
INCORPORATE THE LIGHT FEST THAT WE HAD BEFORE AND ALSO ELECTRIC BEHIND THE COMMUNITY CENTER FOR ALL THE DIFFERENT SPECIAL EVENTS. 
          I'M NOT SURE WHY THAT WAS TAKEN OFF THE BOOKS. 
          THAT FUNDING WAS SECURED. I SECURED THAT FUNDING PROBABLY FIVE YEARS OR MORE AGO. 
          AND YOU KNOW, EVEN IF THE COST HAS GONE UP A LITTLE BIT IT'S A IT'S VERY SIGNIFICANT IN
ALLOWING RECREATION TO DO A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS THERE. 
          IT'S VERY CONDUCIVE AND ESPECIALLY IT'S GOING TO PLAY INTO IF YOU'RE GOING TO UPGRADE THAT
AREA AND PUT IN AN AMPHITHEATER AND OTHER THINGS WITHOUT HAVING THE ELECTRIC, WHICH IS CRUCIAL TO THE VENDORS AND, AND PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO SUPPLY THE ENTERTAINMENT
AND THINGS THERE. 
          SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THAT TAKE A HARD LOOK AT THAT AGAIN. 
          A SECONDARY THING. AND THIS, THIS DOESN'T HAVE TO DO WITH THAT MASTER PLAN. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT WAS SPACE. 
          I CAN TELL YOU THAT'S BEEN A AN ISSUE GOING ALL THE WAY BACK WHEN I FIRST STARTED IN THE
70S MOST OF THE LAND THAT WAS GIVEN TO US BY GENERAL DEVELOPMENT ARE SMALL PARCELS, AND THEY'RE THEY'RE JUST NOT CONDUCIVE TO TO WHAT WE
REALLY, REALLY NEED. THEY'RE GREAT. IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A BUNCH OF LITTLE GREEN SPACES ALL OVER
THE PLACE, BUT AS FAR AS ACTIVE RECREATION AND THINGS LIKE THAT, IT DOESN'T DO THAT. SO LAND ACQUISITION IS IMPORTANT. 
          AND I WAS WORKING ON SOME STUFF AND I WOULD I WOULD REALLY,
REALLY ENCOURAGE THAT. 
          LOOKING HARD. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THAT WAS PRIORITIZED WAS FINDING A LARGE PARCEL IN
THE SOUTHEAST, ACTUALLY LOOKING AT ANOTHER REGIONAL PARK WITH THAT,
YOU CAN YOU CAN HANDLE ALMOST EVERYTHING YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT. 
          YOU CAN TALK ABOUT ANOTHER AQUATIC CENTER. YOU CAN TALK ABOUT ANOTHER SENIOR CENTER,
ANOTHER COMMUNITY CENTER, SOCCER FIELDS, ALL THOSE THINGS AND ALL. AND WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO PUT IN THERE IS GOING TO
COME OUT OF YOUR YOUR MASTER PLANNING. 
          AND YOU GOT TO REMEMBER, THAT THING IS IT'S IT'S IT'S MALLEABLE,
OKAY. 
          IT'S NOT IT'S NOT CAST IN STONE. IT'S, IT'S,
IT'S GOING TO BE A DYNAMIC MOVING TARGET. 
          IT'S GOING TO IT'S GOING TO REVOLUTIONIZE. IT'S GOING TO CHANGE. 
          ALSO AT LIBERTY PARK, YOU HAVE THERE'S BACK WHEN WE FIRST DEVELOPED IT THEY THE NATIONAL
FISH AND WILDLIFE MADE US PUT ASIDE 13.7 ACRES FOR SCRUB JAYS. 
          THAT AGREEMENT RAN OUT LAST YEAR IN AUGUST. I BROUGHT THAT TO THE ATTENTION OF MY BOSSES,
AND THEY THEY DIDN'T PAY ATTENTION. 
          WHAT I WANTED TO DO WAS GO BACK TO FISH AND WILDLIFE AND SAY,
OKAY, THE AGREEMENT IS OVER. 
          WE'VE THE TERM IS OVER. CAN WE NOW REESTABLISH THAT PROPERTY AND DEVELOP IT? BECAUSE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WAS SUPPOSED TO GO IN THERE 13.7
ACRES. 
          THERE IS A LOT OF SPACE. YOU CAN PUT IN SOME MULTI-PURPOSE FIELDS TO ADDRESS. 
          SO, SO YOU CAN YOU CAN LOOK AT SOCCER AND THINGS LIKE THAT WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH
SPACE. 
          THERE WAS ALSO THE ORIGINAL PLAN WAS HAD A COMMUNITY CENTER THERE. 
          SO THAT SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT TAKE PLACE. 
          SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE REALLY, REALLY LOOKING HARD AT HAVING SOMEONE COMMUNICATE WITH FISH
AND WILDLIFE AND SEE WHAT HAS TO BE DONE TO TO RECAPTURE THAT SPACE BECAUSE IT'S OVERGROWN. THERE'S NO SCRUB JAYS THERE,
I CAN TELL YOU THAT. 
          AND, AND AND I'M NOT SURE THERE WERE EVER ANY THERE TO BEGIN WITH. 
          BUT BUT THE SPACE IS. THAT SPACE IS AVAILABLE. 
          OKAY. OKAY. AND I'M TRYING TO THINK THERE WAS,
OH, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT A LOT IS, IS OUR MAINTENANCE ISSUES. AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT MOST OF THOSE ISSUES HAVE BEEN
HIGHLIGHTED SINCE THE SPLIT UP OF THE DEPARTMENT AND BY BY PARKS AND RECREATION BEING SPLIT UP. 
          IT'S CREATED A LOT, OF LOT OF ISSUES. I KNOW IT MADE MY JOB HARDER. 
          [00:50:05]
AND I'M SURE IT MAKES DANIEL'S JOB HARDER, BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS PARKS IS AN INTEGRAL
PART OF RECREATION. 
          IT'S IT'S WHAT HELPS WHEN IT COMES TO SPECIAL EVENTS THROUGH YOUR LOGISTICS PEOPLE. 
          WHEN IT COMES TO DELIVERING SERVICES, IT'S VERY,
VERY HARD TO TALK TO YOUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS AND YOUR RESIDENTS ABOUT ABOUT PROGRAMS AND THINGS THAT YOU'RE DOING IN THE PARK WHEN THE ISSUES THAT THEY HAVE IS WITH
THE MAINTENANCE, LACK OF MAINTENANCE, BAD SCHEDULING, WHATEVER IT MAY BE,
AND YOU HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THAT. 
          THE OTHER PART THAT'S THAT'S BAD IS YOU HAVE DIFFERENT PHILOSOPHIES WHEN PARKS GOT PUT
UNDER FACILITIES. 
          FACILITIES, MAIN FUNCTIONS ARE INTERNALIZED. OKAY. 
          THEY THEIR JOB IS FOR THE THE THE OTHER EMPLOYEES,
THEIR THEIR INTERNAL SERVICE DEPARTMENT. 
          OKAY. SO THE PHILOSOPHY THAT THAT GOES WITH THAT DOES NOT LEND ITSELF TO PARKS,
WHICH IS AN INTEGRAL PART OF RECREATION AND DEALING WITH THE PUBLIC. SO I'VE BEEN VERY OUTSPOKEN TO THE COUNCIL ABOUT THAT,
THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE PUT BACK TOGETHER AGAIN. THAT WAS A BAD DECISION WHEN IT TOOK PLACE. 
          IT'S STILL A BAD DECISION TO THIS DAY. IT DOES NOT BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY WHATSOEVER. 
          AND I THINK IT MAKES THE RECREATION'S JOB WAY HARDER THAN IT NEEDS TO BE. 
          AND SO I, I WOULD IMPLORE YOU TO, YOU KNOW, TALK TO YOUR COUNCIL PEOPLE OR ANYBODY THAT
YOU THINK HAS SOME INFLUENCE BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW OF A OF A CITY IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA OR THE UNITED STATES OF ANY SIGNIFICANCE WHERE
PARKS AND RECREATION IS NOT NOT TOGETHER MAKES NO SENSE. 
          AND, AND AND THAT'S A BIG PART OF THIS MASTER PLAN,
TOO, BECAUSE I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THAT IF WHEN PARKS AND FACILITIES COMES IN THE ROOM, THEIR THOUGHT PROCESS ON HOW THAT WORKS AND DANIELS THOUGHT PROCESS AND RECREATION STAFF'S
THOUGHTS ARE DON'T MESH, THEY DON'T ALIGN. AND SO SO SO GETTING ALL THAT UNDER ONE LEADERSHIP TO TO CREATE A BETTER
PLAN FOR THE COMMUNITY IS A GOOD IDEA. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. I WILL SAY THAT FROM A CITIZENS VIEWPOINT. 
          OH I'M SORRY. SORRY. I JUST WANT TO GO ON LIBERTY PARK. 
          JUST TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE PARKS AND FACILITIES IS WORKING ON A PLAN FOR FULL
TRANSPARENCY. 
          WE HAVE ABOUT 150,000, GIVE OR TAKE IN IMPACT FEES IN THREE,
TWO, 909 THAT ARE EXPIRING AT THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR. 
          SO THAT AREA THAT MR. POPPY WAS TALKING ABOUT,
PARKS AND FACILITIES IS WORKING ON A PLAN. 
          WE GOT WITH LAND DEVELOPMENT WHAT WE HAVE TO DO WITH THE SCRUB JAY SITUATION. 
          PRELIMINARY A WALK OUT THERE. IF ANYONE KNOWS SCRUB JAYS,
THEY DO NOT LIKE TO BE AROUND BLUE JAYS. 
          THAT PLACE IS LOADED WITH BLUE JAYS. SO THE THE PLAN,
AT LEAST FROM WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING, IS STEP ONE IS GOING TO BE ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY. 
          AS PART OF THAT, THEN WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO SOME DESIGNING INTERNALLY FOR SOME
MULTI-PURPOSE FIELDS THERE. 
          AND ALSO PICKLEBALL COURTS AS WELL. BECAUSE WE HAVE THOSE IMPACT FEES EXPIRING AND THE
PLANS TO KEEP ABOUT A 25 FOOT BUFFER BETWEEN THE RESIDENTS AND ANY OF THE NEW DEVELOPMENT THERE, AND ANY OF THE GOPHER TORTOISES COULD BE MOVED TO
THAT 25 FOOT BUFFER ZONE. 
          RIGHT. SO I'M THINKING, YEAH, YEAH, KIND OF RELOCATE THEM. 
          WELL, YOU GOTTA MOVE ON THAT, MAN. WE ONLY GOT A COUPLE MONTHS FOR THIS YEAR. 
          JUST TO COMMENT ON MR. POPPY'S STATEMENT FROM A CITIZEN'S POINT OF VIEW,
WHEN YOU WALK INTO A PARK AND YOU'RE GOING THERE FOR A RECREATION EVENT OR WHATEVER YOU'RE GOING TO THE PARK FOR. IT'S ALL ONE IN THE EYES OF THE CITIZENS. 
          I MEAN, PARKS AND REC ARE SO INTERTWINED THAT THE CITIZENS DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT THEY'RE
SEPARATED. 
          AND IT CERTAINLY MAKES IT HARDER FOR THE BOARD,
BECAUSE WHEN WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING, WE'VE GOT TO. 
          DANIEL'S GOT THE RECREATION SIDE, JUST GOT THE THE PARK SIDE. 
          AND AT SOME POINT THERE'S YEAH, SEVEN BOARD MEMBERS,
TWO STAFF MEMBERS, NINE OF US GOT TO COME TOGETHER, COME UP WITH SOMETHING. SO I DO AGREE THAT IN THE EYES OF THE CITIZEN,
IT'S JUST ONE THING. 
          AND IF AT ALL, I JUST THINK IT MAKES SENSE. I DIDN'T AGREE WITH IT WHEN IT WAS SPLIT. 
          [00:55:05]
YEAH, THAT MAKES SENSE. YEAH. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING OR WE WANT TO SEE IT IN UPCOMING
MEETING. 
          I HAVE ONE MORE COMMENT ABOUT THE MAINTENANCE OF FACILITIES AND ALL OF THAT. 
          HAVE WE LOOKED INTO POTENTIALLY PARTNERING WITH THE COMPANIES THAT ARE HELPING TO
MAINTAIN, LIKE I KNOW, THE POOL, FOR EXAMPLE, HAS SOMEONE COME OUT FOR THE PUMPS? HAVE WE CONSIDERED DOING SOME SORT OF PARTNERSHIP WHERE WE LIKE,
ADVERTISE AT THE FACILITY FOR THEM AND THEY ARE ABLE TO, I DON'T KNOW, HELP LIMIT THE COST THAT WE'RE BECAUSE WE ARE SPENDING AN EXORBITANT AMOUNT
OF MONEY ON THE POOL OFTEN. 
          SO I, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, LIKE WHEN YOU'RE TALKING A PARTNERSHIP,
I MEAN, WE HAVE CONTRACTS LIKE CES IS OUR OUR CONTRACTED COMPANY TO WORK ON. A LOT OF THE MECHANICAL STUFF INSIDE THE AQUATICS
CENTER. 
          BUT THERE'S ALSO THINGS THAT THEY DON'T COVER WHICH PARKS AND FACILITIES HAS INTERNAL
STAFF THAT'S DOING. 
          SO THERE ARE TIMES THAT WE RUN INTO WHERE THE MAINTENANCE COMPANY IS SAYING,
THAT'S YOUR SIDE, AND WE'RE SAYING THAT'S THAT SIDE. SO I, LIKE I SAID,
THE DESIGN AND ENGINEERING PROCESS WE'RE GOING TO I KNOW PART OF THAT WHEN THERE'S BEEN TALKS,
WHEN WE DO GO OUT TO BID TO REDO THIS WHOLE THING IS TO HAVE IT UNDER WARRANTY AND TO HAVE IT WITH A COMPANY THAT'S GOING TO SERVICE EVERYTHING IN THAT POOL,
EVEN, YOU KNOW, FROM THE LINER TO THE EQUIPMENT TO EVERYTHING. 
          THAT'S KIND OF THE GOAL BEHIND IT, IS TO TRY TO GET A ALL IN ONE COMPANY TO DO EVERYTHING. 
          ALL RIGHT. I WAS JUST KIND OF ENVISIONING LIKE WHERE IT'S SORT OF LIKE A LOCAL COMPANY OR
SOMETHING. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THAT EXISTS. I'M NOT SPECIFICALLY JUST SAYING THE POOL,
BUT PARKS IN GENERAL, LIKE WHERE THERE'S MORE OF AN OWNERSHIP FOR IT BECAUSE THEIR LOCAL COMMUNITY MEMBER AS WELL, AND THEY HAVE MORE BUY IN. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THAT COULD BE DONE WHERE NOT LIKE AN IN-KIND
DONATION, BUT WHERE THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, HELPING TO MAINTAIN IT TO HELP SAVE THE CITY SOME COST. 
          I MEAN, I GUESS I GUESS THE SITUATION THERE YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS,
YOU KNOW, WE DO THAT WITH SOME ITEMS AND COMING FROM THE RECREATION SIDE, LIKE WE A LOT OF OUR EVENTS AND PROGRAMS, WE GET SOME IN-KIND DONATIONS OF SERVICES. 
          THERE STILL HAS TO BE SOME TYPE OF AGREEMENT,
INSURANCES, MAKING SURE EVERYTHING ON THAT SIDE IS CORRECT. 
          BUT IF THERE IS COMPANIES OR GROUPS THAT ARE LICENSED AND INSURED TO WORK ON CERTAIN
THINGS THAT YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WILL HAVE TO RUN THAT THROUGH PARKS AND FACILITIES. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THERE'S DIFFERENT MOVING PARTS AT THE POOL THAT,
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT. 
          BUT IF IF YOU'RE TALKING LIKE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF SIMILAR,
LIKE A GROUP JUST WANTS TO COME OUT, WE HAVE ONE AT REGIONAL PARK THAT EVERY MONTH THEY DO A PARK CLEANUP AT THE REGIONAL PARK, AND THEY KIND OF WALK THE OUTSKIRTS OF IT AND PICK UP A LOT OF STUFF THROUGH THE WOODED
AREAS THAT KIND OF JUST GET OVERSEEN. 
          SO THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES FOR THAT. OKAY. SOMETHING THAT JUST POPPED IN MY HEAD. 
          I HEAD. I REMEMBER JOSH WAS SAYING THAT IT TAKES A LOT OF TIME TO LIKE,
MOW THE FIELDS, FOR EXAMPLE. 
          WE HAVE A BUNCH OF LOCAL LAWN COMPANIES. I'M WONDERING IF THEY'D BE WILLING SOMEONE TO
PARTNER AND KIND OF, YOU KNOW, JUST JUST TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO SAVE THE CITY SOME MONEY. FOR THE NEXT MEETING. 
          I'M NOT SURE IF WE CAN DO THIS OR NOT, BUT JUST GOING BACK TO LIBERTY AND THE EXTRA MONEY
THAT NEEDS TO BE SPENT BY THE END OF THE YEAR. 
          IS THERE ANY WAY TO SEE WHAT MONEY NEEDS TO BE SPENT BY THE END OF NEXT YEAR FOR THE NEXT
MEETING, SO WE CAN TRY TO HAVE INPUT ON THAT? JUST THE THE EXTRA MONEY,
NOT THE. 
          SO YOU'RE TALKING THE FOLLOWING FISCAL YEAR,
NOT THE ONE THAT'S EXPIRING THIS FISCAL. 
          OKAY. YEAH. IT'S TOO LATE IN THE YEAR FOR THIS. YEAH I CAN GET WITH FINANCE AND LOOK AT
THAT. 
          YEP. ANYTHING ELSE? ONE MORE. I'M SO SORRY. I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE MONEY THAT
EXPIRES. 
          WHAT HAPPENS TO THOSE IMPACT FEES AT AFTER? WE DON'T IF WE DON'T USE THEM,
IF THEY'RE NOT USED WITHIN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME, THEY EXPIRE AND THEY GO BACK TO THE DEVELOPER. 
          OH, WOW. VERY INTERESTING. YEAH. NOW AND ON WITH THE PARKS AND AND THE ASSISTANCE FROM THE
OUTSIDE. 
          YOU KNOW, IT'S A IT'S A CITY. AND SOMETIMES LIABILITY PLAY A VITAL ROLE. 
          SO THEY MOST TIMES THEY DON'T WANT TO ALLOW,
YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY TO OPERATE ON THE SITE IN CASE SOMETHING GO WRONG. 
          YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY TURN AROUND. AND SO THE CITY SOMETIMES. 
          HOW LONG DO THOSE FEES LAST FOR? IS IT LIKE BY THE END OF THE YEAR YOU GET THEM. 
          THEY'RE ONLY GOOD FOR THAT YEAR. OR IS THERE SEVERAL YEARS BEFORE THEY EXPIRE? OKAY. IT BASICALLY JUST KEEPS THE CITIES FROM DRAGGING THEIR FEET AND LEAVING THAT MONEY
THERE JUST TO ACCUMULATE AND ACCUMULATE FOREVER AND NEVER GET SPENT OR USED FOR WHAT IT WAS INTENDED FOR. RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE? SEEING NOTHING, I'LL ADJOURN THE MEETING AT 1859.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.