[00:00:01] THE CHAT. GOOD EVENING. WE ARE CALLING TO ORDER THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD MEETING. [CALL TO ORDER] OUR REGULAR MEETING. WE BEGIN WITH THE. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. YES. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. I THINK I SAID INDIVIDUAL. OKAY. ROLL CALL. REBECCA ZIEGLER HERE. SUSAN CONNOLLY, I THINK SHE'S ON HER WAY. OKAY. JANE HIGGINS HERE. EILEEN. SEP. HERE. DOUGLAS HOOK HERE. WE DO HAVE QUORUM. PUBLIC COMMENTS THREE MINUTES EACH. [PUBLIC COMMENTS] NON AGENDA ITEMS ONLY. ANYONE WANTING TO SPEAK IS WELCOME TO DO SO AT THIS TIME. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED. THANK YOU. HI, I'M LYDIA BARBER AND I LIVE AT 1638 FORK TERRACE SOUTHEAST. AND THE FIRST THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS RECYCLING GLASS. IN 2020, PALM BAY WENT WITH REPUBLIC AND ELIMINATED GLASS RECYCLING AS A RESULT OF THAT. THAT CHANGE WAS VERY DISAPPOINTING BECAUSE IT NOT IT'S NOT SUSTAINABLE. IT CREATES NEED FOR ADDITIONAL LANDFILLS BECAUSE GLASS FILLS LANDFILLS UP MORE QUICKLY THAN A LOT OF OTHER THINGS, AND IT TAKES A MILLION YEARS TO DEGRADE. SO THEY'RE GETTING FILLED UP WITH STUFF THAT WILL NEVER GO AWAY AND STUFF THAT CAN BE EASILY REUSED IF HANDLED CORRECTLY. SO I'VE BEEN I'VE STARTED WORKING WITH THE CITY MANAGER ON THE POSSIBILITY OF DOING ONE OF TWO THINGS, ONE BEING POSSIBILITY OF DOING DUAL STREAM RECYCLING, WHICH IS WHAT SEBASTIAN DOES, AND SEBASTIAN CHARGES THEIR RESIDENTS $70 EVERY THREE MONTHS FOR ALL OF THEIR WASTE MANAGEMENT, AND THEN $29 A MONTH FOR WATER. SO IT'S VERY REASONABLE TO DO IT IF YOU DO IT RIGHT. ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE WAS WOULD BE TO HAVE PEOPLE BE ABLE TO BRING THEIR GLASS TO A FACILITY, LIKE AT A GROCERY STORE SO THEY COULD TAKE THEIR GLASS IN WHEN THEY GO IN TO BUY MORE AND TAKE AWAY. SO THERE'S A COMPANY THAT DOES THE CONVERTING GLASS TO WHAT CAN BE USED TO MAKE NEW GLASS, WHICH IS CALLED CULLET. AND THAT COMPANY WAS BOUGHT OUT BY A EUROPEAN COMPANY ABOUT A YEAR AGO. AND I THINK MR. MORTON IS NOW IN TOUCH WITH THAT COMPANY, AND THEY'RE VERY INTERESTED IN HELPING US FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO. AND I THINK THAT THIS IS AN ISSUE FOR THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD BECAUSE IT'S DEFINITELY WE'VE ALREADY CLOSED ONE LANDFILL AND WE'RE GETTING READY TO CLOSE ANOTHER ONE. I UNDERSTAND THAT'S THE FIRST THING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT GLASS RECYCLING FOR JUST A SECOND. I AGREE COMPLETELY. THAT'S A GREAT POINT THAT YOU'RE BRINGING UP ON THERE. IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT I THINK THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD SHOULD WORK ON FOCUSING ON. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS GROWING UP IN LAKELAND JUST LITTLE EAST OF US OR WEST OF US. DIRECTIONS. ONE OF THE GLASS RECYCLING PROGRAMS THAT THEY ACTUALLY HAD WITH THE POLK COUNTY WAS THAT THEY WOULD CRUSH THE GLASS, ACTUALLY RUN IT THROUGH A TUMBLER, AND OFFER THE GLASS AS A FREE MULCH FOR ANY CITIZENS WITHIN THE CITY OR WITHIN THE COUNTY. THAT WAS A GREAT PROGRAM. I KNOW MY DAD AND I BOTH WENT OUT THERE AND GOT PILES AND PILES OF GLASS MULCH, AND IT WAS REALLY KIND OF COOL TO HAVE THE MULCH OUT IN YOUR FLOWERBEDS AND EVERYTHING AND ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT COLORS AND SIZES AND EVERYTHING. AND WHEN THE LIGHT WOULD HIT IT, YOU'D HAVE UNIQUE SHAPES AND WHATNOT. FLAGLER DOES HAS A MACHINE. THEY CALLED IT BLUE THAT DOES THAT. EXCELLENT. YEAH, $200,000, I THINK. OKAY. THANK YOU. YES. COME ON UP. GOOD EVENING. I'M ELIZABETH BLACKFORD FOR 86 NORTH. WHERE DO I LIVE? NOGALES AVENUE, NORTHEAST IN PALM BAY. AND YOU'RE ALL WELCOME. [00:05:04] I WANTED TO BRING TO THE ATTENTION OF THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD THAT I THINK THE CITY IS BEGINNING TO LOOK AT THE POSSIBILITY OF OF OFFERING SOME CLASSES THAT THE EXTENSION OFFICE HAS. AND THAT WOULD BE PARTICULARLY HELPFUL, I THINK, TO THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD, BECAUSE IT TENDS TO PROMOTE CITIZEN ENGAGEMENT AND ACTION. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE PEOPLE AVAILABLE TO SERVE ON THE BOARD AND ALSO TO ATTEND AND TO UNDERTAKE VARIOUS PROJECTS. SO IF YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE CITY COUNCIL TO MOVE ACTIVELY ON THAT POSSIBILITY. I THINK I JUST ANSWERED A SURVEY THAT CAME OUT FROM THE EXTENSION OFFICE ASKING ABOUT CLASSES THAT I HAD ATTENDED IN THE PAST. I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? OKAY. DO I NEED TO SAY MY NAME AGAIN, PLEASE? LYDIA BARBER, 1638 FORK TERRACE, SOUTHEAST. WE WERE SO EXCITED TO MOVE TO PALM BAY IN 2019, WHEN WE REALIZED THAT THE MAJOR'S GOLF COURSE EXISTED. MY HUSBAND AND I WERE BOTH AVID GOLFERS BEFORE WE MOVED HERE. WE PLAYED ON TEAMS, WE PLAYED WITH FRIENDS. WE TRAVELED ALL OVER TO PLAY GOLF. LOVED IT. AND HE CONTINUED TO PLAY AFTER WE MOVED HERE. AND SADLY, THE PERSON WHO BOUGHT THE MAJORS USED IT AS A CASH COW. AND THEN TRIED TO RIP EVERYBODY OFF BY PUTTING A PLAN FORWARD FOR A DEVELOPER TO COME IN AND PUT IN 500 HOUSES WITHOUT REGARD FOR ANY ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES OR ANY OTHER ISSUES. SADLY, THAT PROJECT, THAT PROJECT WAS TURNED DOWN AT THAT TIME BECAUSE OF CITIZEN INPUT. RIGHT NOW THAT PROJECT IS CALLED EDEN AND IT'S GOING UNDER EVERYBODY'S RADAR. SO I FOUND OUT THAT THERE IS A WEBSITE ON THAT CITY HAS AND IT TALKS ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH EDEN. AND SHE FILED OR THE COMPANY FILED A PLAN THAT PROPOSES NOW PUTTING 480 HOUSES ON THAT PROPERTY, WHICH IS ZONED FOR 38 PROPERTIES, 38 HOUSES. SO THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WAS BUILT WAS BUILT FOR 38 HOUSES. SO TO THINK THAT WE COULD PUT IN A COMMUNITY OF 480 HOUSES WITHOUT IT COSTING A BUNCH TO PALM BAY FOR TO MAKE IT SUSTAINABLE, YOU'D NEED POLICE, YOU'D NEED FIRE, YOU'D NEED ROADS, YOU NEED SEWAGE, YOU NEED YOU NEED ALL KINDS OF STUFF. AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S BEING CONSIDERED IN THE PLAN. PLUS, BECAUSE IT'S BEING CALLED EDEN NOW, I THINK IT'S RUNNING UNDER EVERYBODY'S RADAR. I PUT A NOTE OUT ON NEXTDOOR TODAY, AND WITHIN AN HOUR I HAD THREE RESPONSES. PEOPLE WHO WERE TOTALLY SURPRISED THAT THIS WAS HAPPENING. SO I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD TAKE THIS ON AS AN ISSUE, BECAUSE I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT THIS THING IS IS GOOD AT 480 HOUSES WHEN IT WAS NOT GOOD AT 500. IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT THOUGH. A GOLF COURSE IS NOT UNDEVELOPED LAND. AND SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE, THEY CLAIM THAT THEY HAVE BEEN DECLARED UNDEVELOPED. I WAS IN THE GOLF BUSINESS FOR A LONG TIME. THAT LAND IS SCULPTED FOR DRAINAGE AND EVERYTHING ELSE, AND THERE ARE WETLANDS IN THERE THAT SHOULD NOT BE TOUCHED AND IT SHOULD BE PROTECTED. AND I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY SOMEBODY DOESN'T JUST. DO IT. I MEAN, SHE'S BEEN SHE HAS NEGLECTED IT. AND AS DEVELOPED LAND, SHE SHOULD BE GETTING CITATIONS. IF I LET MY GRASS GROW TWO FEET, THEY'RE GOING TO KNOCK AT MY DOOR. IF THERE'S MOSS GROWING ON THE SIDE OF MY HOUSE, I GET A CITATION. YOU KNOW, THERE ARE WAYS TO TO DISCOURAGE HER FROM WHAT SHE'S DOING AND MAKE SURE THAT THE DEVELOPERS KNOW THIS IS NOT A GOOD THING. SHE SHE WON'T EVEN LET IT BE A GOLF COURSE. OKAY. SHE DOES NOT WANT THAT. SHE KEEPS RAISING THE PRICE. AND YEAH, IT'S A RIDICULOUS SITUATION, BUT IT NEVER SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED. AND I HOPE THAT GOING FORWARD, OUR PARKS WILL REMAIN PARKS. AND, YOU KNOW, THEY SHOULD BE ZONED AS SUCH AND UNTOUCHABLE. [00:10:03] BUT I'M WITH YOU THERE, AND I'VE. I'VE DONE AS MUCH AS I CAN TO TRY TO HELP PEOPLE WITH THAT. SO YOU HAVE TO BE VIGILANT AND MAKE SURE YOU SHOW UP WHEN THEY HAVE THEIR, THEIR ADVISORY SESSIONS OR WHATEVER IT IS. BUT THERE HAS TO BE. I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE MISSED THAT, THAT YOU COULD CONTACT SOME OF THE MEDIA AND LET THEM IF YOU KNOW IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, HAVE THEM SAY. EDEN, FORMERLY KNOWN AS MAJOR'S GOLF COURSE, IS HOLDING A MEETING WITH THE DEVELOPERS. YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO JUST TAKE THE ACTION YOURSELF AND CALL WHOEVER. THERE'S SOME LOCAL MEDIA SOURCES, BUT ALSO CHANNEL SIX, I THINK IT IS. IS THAT WESH? I FORGET I'M OLD, I FORGET THINGS, YOU KNOW, JUST THE, THE GENERAL GENERALLY AVAILABLE MEDIA STATIONS AND EVEN RADIO CALLED BILL MIC. YOU KNOW, ALL I CAN SAY IS NO. BUT THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP. I'D LIKE TO TALK ON THIS FOR A SECOND. SO AT THE COFFEY WITH THE CITY MANAGER. NOT THIS WEEKS, BUT LAST MONTHS. THERE WAS ANOTHER CITIZEN OF THE MAJORS WHO BROUGHT UP DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA AND WHATNOT. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I ASKED FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO CONSIDER IS TO USE PORT MALABAR COUNTRY CLUB AREA AS A SOUNDING BOARD FOR HOW THESE KIND OF THINGS COULD AFFECT THE MAJORS. BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THERE IS A 1 TO 1 DIRECT COMPARISON BETWEEN PORT MALABAR COUNTRY CLUB'S OVER DEVELOPMENT AND HOW IT IS AFFECTING THE CITIZENS OF PORT MALABAR COUNTRY CLUB, AND HOW THAT SAME OVERDEVELOPMENT MAY AFFECT CITIZENS OF THE MAJOR. SO HOPEFULLY THAT HAS ALREADY KIND OF THAT BUG HAS ALREADY KIND OF BEEN PLANTED INTO THE CITY'S EAR. AND I WILL CONTINUE TO WORK TOWARDS THAT BECAUSE I LIVE IN THE PORT MALABAR COUNTRY CLUB AREA. I RECENTLY HAVE SEEN THE ONE OF THE FAIRWAYS GET TURNED INTO AN NEW DEVELOPMENT. THAT HOUSE HASN'T BEEN BUILT YET. BUT I SAW TREES GET TORN DOWN AND WILDLIFE GET DISPLACED. AND GREEN SPACE GET REMOVED. AND THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT I DON'T WANT TO BE SEEING FOR THE MAJORS AS WELL. OKAY. LYDIA BARBER, 1638 FOURTH TERRACE, SOUTHEAST. THIS IS I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RULE IS ABOUT PEOPLE WHO ARE ON A BOARD LIKE YOU ARE, BUT A COUPLE OF YEARS, A FEW YEARS AGO, I WAS INVITED TO BE ON THE BOARD, AND I COULDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT DOING IT THEN. AND I WAS GLAD THAT I DIDN'T, BECAUSE I HAVE TWO REALLY GOOD FRIENDS WHO ARE ON THE BOARD. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN YOU GET ON A BOARD LIKE THAT, YOU CAN NO LONGER TALK TO THOSE PEOPLE LIKE YOU USED TO. AND TO ME, WHEN YOU HAVE AN IDEA ABOUT SOMETHING OR WHEN YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, THE WAY TO DO IT IS TO TALK TO YOUR FRIENDS ABOUT IT. AND IT HELPS YOU DEVELOP IDEAS AND THEY EVOLVE. AND SO TO FIND YOURSELF IN A SITUATION WHERE YOU CAN'T TALK TO EACH OTHER JUST SEEMS REALLY HARD TO ME. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD HOPE THAT THERE'S A WAY TO DEAL WITH FOR YOU. YEAH, THAT'S STATE REGULATIONS. THE SUNSHINE LAW. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT CHANGE SO THAT WE COULD COLLABORATE AS LONG AS WE WHEN WE COME HERE, WE SAY, WELL, I MET WITH, YOU KNOW, X, Y AND Z ON THE BOARD AND THIS IS WHAT WE DISCUSSED. I THINK THAT WOULD STILL MEET THEIR REQUIREMENTS, BUT IT'S GOT TO BE CHANGED AT THE STATE LEVEL. SO YOU MIGHT WANT TO WRITE TO DEBBIE MAYFIELD, DEBBIE MAYFIELD. AND I THINK BRIAN HODGES IS THE OTHER ONE THAT REPRESENTATIVE. IF THERE ARE NO OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT PEOPLE WISHING TO SPEAK UNDER PUBLIC COMMENTS, WE'LL MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS. WE HAVE ONE MORE. OH, YES. YES, COME ON UP. STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS. AND THREE MINUTE LIMIT. YEAH. THANK YOU MA'AM. SO THE HANDHELD MICROPHONE IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO USE. IF YOU JUST PRESS THE RED BUTTON THERE, IT'LL TURN GREEN AND THEN IT SHOULD BE LIVE. [00:15:03] AWESOME. THANK YOU. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR GIVING ME A MOMENT TO SPEAK. AND THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING AS VOLUNTEERS FOR THIS GREAT CITY. MY NAME IS CAMILLE HADLEY. I AM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND FOUNDER OF AN ORGANIZATION CALLED LITTLE GROWERS, INC. WE ARE AN ENVIRONMENTAL AND CLIMATE ORGANIZATION PRIMARILY LOCATED IN SOUTH MELBOURNE, NORTH EAST PALM BAY. BUT OUR WORK IS VERY, VERY WELL KNOWN IN THE AREA. WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL THAT'S BEING RELEASED BY THE CITY OF PALM BAY FOR THE EVANS CENTER, AND WE HOPE TO SEE IN THAT SPACE A CLIMATE RESILIENCE HUB FOR OUR COMMUNITY. AS YOU MAY KNOW, THE WHENEVER HURRICANE HITS THE NEAREST FEMA STATION AND LOCATION WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO TO GET SUPPORT IS ALL THE WAY IN COCOA, WHICH IS REALLY FAR FOR THE RESIDENTS OF PALM BAY. SO WE ARE CURRENTLY PARTNERED WITH THE FLORIDA INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY, WHERE WE'LL BE ACTUALLY HOSTING OUR MAKE A GREEN NOISE ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE FORUM THIS COMING SATURDAY AT 9 A.M. IN THE EVANS LIBRARY. BUT WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM TO DO SOME SUSTAINABILITY WORK IN THE COMMUNITY, WHICH INCLUDES WEATHER STATIONS THAT WE'VE INSTALLED AT RESIDENTS YARDS IN THE DRISKELL HEIGHTS COMMUNITY. AND THOSE RESIDENTS ARE ACTUALLY MONITORING THOSE WEATHER STATIONS AND REPORTING DATA ON A NATIONAL WEBSITE THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY USING TO DETERMINE WHY THEY EXPERIENCE SO MUCH FLOODING AFTER HURRICANE IRMA AND SIMILAR EVENTS, HEAVY RAIN EVENTS. SO THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING HAS BEEN VERY IMPACTFUL FOR OUR COMMUNITY, AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT A LONG TIME. AND I JUST WANTED TO SHARE MY EXCITEMENT ABOUT OUR INTEREST TO SUBMIT THIS PROPOSAL FOR THE EVANS CENTER. IN ADDITION TO CLIMATE RESILIENCE, WE'LL BE DOING SOME FOOD JUSTICE WORK THERE. AND WE CURRENTLY ARE ALSO WORKING WITH FLORIDA TECH TO BUILD A INTEGRATED MULTI-TROPHIC AQUACULTURE SYSTEM WHERE WE WILL BE GROWING FISH AND FOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO 10% OF WHAT WE GROW IN THAT SYSTEM IS GOING TO SUPPORT RESTORATION IN THE LAGOON. SO I WON'T TAKE UP ANY MORE OF YOUR TIME, BUT I THINK I DID BRING THE POSTCARDS. IF NOT, I'LL RUN OUT TO THE CAR AND GET THEM. I'D LIKE TO INVITE YOU TO MAKE A GREEN NOISE THIS SATURDAY. AGAIN, IT'S 9 A.M. TO 2 P.M.. IT'S GOING TO BE AT THE FLORIDA TECH EVANS LIBRARY. IT'S FREE TO ATTEND, AND WE'RE GOING TO FEED YOU. SO YOU'LL GET BREAKFAST AND LUNCH THAT DAY, AND YOU'LL GET TO LEARN ABOUT ALL THE GREAT WORK THAT LITTLE GROWERS IS DOING AROUND ENVIRONMENT AND SUSTAINABILITY AND CLIMATE. AND YES, SUSAN, THAT'S THE FLIER RIGHT THERE. BUT I HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL COPIES IN THE CAR, SO JUST LET ME KNOW IF YOU'RE INTERESTED. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THERE'S A LOT OF TIME. YOU DID GREAT. RIGHT ON THE MONEY. I'D LIKE TO INFORM THE BOARD THAT I PLAN ON ATTENDING. I HAVE AN RSVP JUST YET. BUT I DO PLAN ON ATTENDING THE EVENT THIS SATURDAY. UNFORTUNATELY, I WON'T BE ABLE TO STAY THE ENTIRE TIME BECAUSE I DO HAVE MASTER NATURALIST CLASS BEGINNING AT 1 P.M.. SO I WILL BE BOWING OUT A LITTLE EARLY. BUT HOPEFULLY THERE WILL BE SOME PALM BAY SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD PRESENCE, AT LEAST IN THE EARLY PART OF THE MEETING. AWESOME. IF THERE ARE NO IS, NOBODY ELSE IS WISHING TO SPEAK UNDER PUBLIC COMMENTS. WE'LL MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS. THE FIRST ORDER IS REVISITING THE 2023 TURKEY CREEK RESTORATION [NEW BUSINESS] FEASIBILITY STUDY, WHICH IS IN OUR PACKET. MADAM VICE CHAIR. YES, YOU'LL NEED TO MAKE A VOTE FOR A NEW CHAIRPERSON BEFORE WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. OH, OKAY. GOOD. I DID NOT SEE THAT ON THE AGENDA. IT'S NOT THERE. SO, ANYONE WANT TO NOMINATE SOMEONE TO BE A NEW CHAIR? NOMINATE SOMEBODY. I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE DOUG HOOK. SECOND. DOUG HOOK. OH, SAID THE COOK. THE COOK? ANY ANY COMMENTS? SAY, DO YOU ACCEPT THE NOMINATION? I I'LL MAKE A COMMENT ON IT. I WAS ENTIRELY NOT EXPECTING THIS. BUT I THERE'S GOING TO BE A LEARNING CURVE. AS LONG AS EVERYBODY IS OKAY WITH UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS IS ONLY MY SECOND BOARD MEETING. SO I AM STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE PROCEDURAL STUFF AND WHATNOT AS TO WHAT'S GOING ON. BUT I AM WILLING TO TAKE ON THE ROLE AS LONG AS THAT IS SOMETHING THAT OBVIOUSLY THE BOARD IS CONFIDENT IN MY ABILITY TO DO. [00:20:08] I WILL MORE THAN HAPPILY TRY TO TAKE ON THE CHALLENGE FOR IT. DOES ANYONE WANT TO DO WE HAVE A SECOND? DO WE WANT TO MOVE TO A VOTE? IS SO EVERYONE READY TO MOVE TO A VOTE? ANY OBJECTION TO VOTING? OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. I BELIEVE IT'S UNANIMOUS. CONGRATULATIONS, DOUG. AND THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO NOW WE CAN TRANSITION TO HIM RIGHT NOW? I BELIEVE SO, IF YOU'RE READY, IF YOU ARE READY TO TAKE IT ON, THEN BY ALL MEANS, I MEAN FLY BY THE SEAT OF MY PANTS. HERE. OKAY. SO. YES, YOU MENTIONED THAT. I BELIEVE THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS GOING TO BE TO NOMINATE A VICE CHAIR. NEGATIVE. BECAUSE MADAM VICE CHAIR IS STILL HERE. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH, SHE'S STILL THE VICE CHAIR. EXCELLENT. SEE? FLY BY THE SEAT OF MY PANTS. I GOTTA FIGURE IT OUT. YOU'RE FREE TO MOVE ON TO NUMBER ONE. EXCELLENT. AT YOUR LEISURE. SO WE WILL BE MOVING ON TO NEW BUSINESS. ITEM NUMBER ONE REVISITING THE 2023 TURKEY CREEK RESTORATION FEASIBILITY STUDY. AND I BELIEVE I AM THE ONE THAT ADDED THAT TO TONIGHT'S AGENDA. SO I WILL START OFF GOING ON ABOUT IT. I APOLOGIZE, MY VOICE IS OBVIOUSLY KIND OF HOARSE. SO IF I HAVE TO STOP AND TAKE A BREAK AND DRINK SOME WATER THAT'S ON ME. I APOLOGIZE IF I DIDN'T ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT I WANTED TO DO WHEN WE JOINED, I JOINED THE BOARD WAS INCREASED THE VISIBILITY AND COMMUNICATION AMONGST THE BOARD TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND DOING SO, I'VE STARTED PARTICIPATING IN THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS AND DOING SOME PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THERE. I MADE A PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE SECOND MOST RECENT CITY COUNCIL MEETING, AND DURING THAT COMMENT TIME AT THE END, I GOT PULLED BACK INTO IT BY COUNCILMAN KENNY JOHNSON, WHO WANTED TO PRESENT THIS TURKEY CREEK FEASIBILITY STUDY THAT WAS DONE BACK IN 2023. AND HE WANTED US TO KIND OF TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT IT, TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THERE WAS ANYTHING THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY DO. FROM THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD ASPECT ON THERE. ONCE I WAS ABLE TO GET AHOLD OF THAT FEASIBILITY STUDY, WHICH WE HAVE ATTACHED IN THE PACKET I WAS ABLE TO GO THROUGH IT ALL, AND THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS ON THERE THAT ACTUALLY WOULD COST THE CITY QUITE A BIT OF MONEY. AND I UNDERSTAND WHY THE CITY WAS HESITANT TO TAKE ON A WHOLESALE TYPE ACCEPTANCE OF THE FEASIBILITY FEASIBILITY STUDY. BUT IN THAT THERE WAS ONE PROJECT THAT I IDENTIFIED ALMOST IMMEDIATELY AS SOMETHING THAT POTENTIALLY THE THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD COULD ATTEMPT TO WORK ON AND DRIVE FORWARD. SO AS EVERYBODY KNOWS, TURKEY CREEK IS A POINT OF PRIDE WITHIN PALM BAY. THE CITIZENS AND THE CITY THEMSELVES LOVE TURKEY CREEK. THEY TAKE PRIDE IN TURKEY CREEK. THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S HEALTHY. THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE WATER IS HEALTHY. THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THE ANIMALS ARE HEALTHY. AND PEOPLE LOVE VISITING TURKEY CREEK. SO THIS STUDY INCLUDED APPROXIMATELY $2.4 MILLION IN PROJECTED COSTS. WHICH IS PROBABLY, LIKE I SAID, ONE OF THE MAJOR ASPECTS AS TO WHY THE CITY DID NOT WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. BUT ONE OF THE PROJECTS IN HERE THAT WAS ACTUALLY LISTED AS A PRIORITY PROJECT IS GOOD PARK, AND IT'S A SHORELINE OR SHORELINE ENHANCEMENT PROJECT THAT COULD ALMOST IMMEDIATELY HAVE PUBLIC BENEFIT, AND IT WOULD BE ABLE TO LOWER THE NUTRIENT RUNOFF GOING INTO TURKEY CREEK RIGHT AT THE INLET THERE. SO AS PART OF THAT, IN THE FEASIBILITY STUDY, AS YOU KIND OF HAVE THE PAMPHLET ON HERE, UNFORTUNATELY WE DON'T HAVE A DISPLAY ON THE CASE. THAT IS 650 LINEAR FEET AT GOOD PARK. THEY SUGGESTED INSTALLATION OF A SWALE LANDWARD AT THE TOP BANK, CREATING A SOFTER SLOPE AND PLANT DESIRABLE VEGETATION. IT WAS IDENTIFIED AS BEING THE LARGEST IMMEDIATE PUBLIC BENEFIT AND ENHANCEMENT PROPOSED EAST OF THE LIMITS OF THE PUBLIC FISHING PIER TO THE PROPERTY LINE. THAT'S GOING TO HELP REDUCE EROSION AND NUTRIENT RUNOFF AND IMPROVE FISHERY, HABITAT AND ESTHETICS. WHEN I WAS WORKING ON THIS PROJECT AND I IDENTIFIED THIS PROJECT AS A POTENTIAL THING THAT THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD MIGHT WANT TO START WORKING ON. I TOOK IT UPON MYSELF TO LOOK OUT FOR COMMUNITY PARTNERS. I WAS UNDER THE BELIEF AND PROBABLY ACCURATE BELIEF THAT WE WILL NEED TO FIND FUNDING SOURCES FOR IT. [00:25:02] WE WILL NEED TO FIND VOLUNTEERS FOR IT. WE WILL NEED TO FIND WAYS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS AS BEST WE CAN TO LOWER ANY POTENTIAL FINANCIAL IMPACTS FOR THE CITY ITSELF, AND AS SUCH I WAS ABLE TO GET IN TOUCH. MY FIRST ONE WAS WITH SURFRIDER FOUNDATION ON THE SPACE COAST CHAPTER OF SURFRIDER FOUNDATION. I'VE INCLUDED IN THE PACKET SOME COPIES OF THEIR WEBSITES WHERE THEY HAVE ACTUALLY INSTALLED SIMILAR BIOSWALES IN BOTH THE ATLANTIC AND IN MELBOURNE. THE IN THE ATLANTIC BIOSWALE IS ALONG THE BACKSIDE OF THE BARRIER ISLAND. THE BIOSWALES AT BALLARD PARK ARE ALMOST SHOREWARD RIGHT THERE AT THE INLET AND THEN FURTHER BACK ON THE INLET, THEIR EXPERTISE IS GOING TO BE, I BELIEVE, CRUCIAL TO DESIGNING AND LANDSCAPING AND PLANTING THIS. SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE A POTENTIAL BENEFIT THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO LEAN ON. AS I SAID, WITH THE INITIAL SUMMARY, IT SAID 650 LINEAR FEET. THAT IS A LOT. I ACTUALLY VISITED GOOD PARK YESTERDAY AND KIND OF EYEBALLED IT AND SAW EXACTLY HOW MUCH WORK WAS GOING TO BE INVOLVED IN A PROJECT OF THIS NATURE. BUT THE BIOSWALE IN INDIALANTIC, THAT SURFRIDER FOUNDATION HAS ACTUALLY GONE FORWARD AND MOVED WITH I MEASURED IT OUT USING GOOGLE MAPS. IT'S APPROXIMATELY 500FT THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO DO. SO OBVIOUSLY NOT AS BIG OF A SWALE, BUT THEY DO HAVE EXPERIENCE DOING LARGE VOLUME SWALES LIKE THIS. SO IT IS DEFINITELY A PARTNERSHIP THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO LEAN ON. I'VE ALSO ENGAGED WITH THE CONRADINA CHAPTER OF THE FLORIDA NATIVE PLANT SOCIETY TO SEE WHAT KIND OF OPPORTUNITIES THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO LEAN INTO THE PROJECT. THAT WAS PRIMARILY GOING TO BE ON THE SIDE OF VOLUNTEERS AND EXPERTISE AS TO WHAT PLANTS MIGHT BE ABLE TO BE USED. AND I HAVE ALSO SINCE REACHED OUT TO OTHER ORGANIZATIONS SUCH AS ORCA AND THE BREVARD ZOOS RESTORE OUR SHORES FOUNDATION. ACTUALLY, THE REASON I VISITED GOOD PARK YESTERDAY WAS TO MEET WITH A REPRESENTATIVE OF ORCA AT THE PROPERTY TO SEE WHAT KIND OF OPPORTUNITIES THAT THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO BRING TO THE TABLE. I'LL TRY TO VERY BRIEFLY SUMMARIZE MY MEETING WITH THEM. ORCA IS PRIMARILY FOCUSED ON LIVING SHORELINES VERSUS BUFFERED SHORELINES. AND IN THIS SITUATION THERE IS AT LEAST RIGHT NEXT TO THE FISHING DOCK THERE A GOOD PARK. THERE IS A SEAWALL THERE. SO THAT SEAWALL WOULD PREVENT THEM FROM BEING ABLE TO EASILY GO IN AND DO A LIVING SHORELINE SITUATION. FOR THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO MAY NOT KNOW THE DIFFERENCE, A LIVING SHORELINE ACTUALLY INCLUDES A TRANSITIONARY LAND AREA FROM THE LAND INTO THE WATER AND IS ACTUALLY LIKE A WHOLE NATURE SYSTEM. A BUFFERED SHORELINE IS ENTIRELY ON LAND. SO THAT'S GOING TO BE A BIOSWALE IN THIS CASE WOULD BE WHAT WE WOULD BE CONSIDERING. AND THAT'S GOING TO STOP THE WATER BEFORE IT ACTUALLY ENDS UP GETTING INTO THE CREEK AND LET SOME OF THOSE NUTRIENTS GET ABSORBED IN THE SOIL BY THE NATIVE PLANTS. SO THAT SEAWALL THERE AT GOOD PARK WAS A POINT OF CONCERN FOR ORCA. THEY DIDN'T SAY THAT IT WAS NECESSARILY GOING TO STOP THEM FROM BEING ABLE TO BE INVOLVED IN THE PROJECT, BUT IT DID KIND OF PUT A BIT OF A DAMPER ON WHAT HOW QUICKLY THEY MAY BE ABLE TO GET INVOLVED IN THE PROJECT. THEY DID STATE THAT THEY DO HAVE FUNDING FOR LIVING AND BUFFERED SHORELINES AND THAT THEY ACTUALLY HAVE IDENTIFIED ANOTHER PROJECT AT CASTAWAY POINT THAT THEY ARE PRESENT OR THEY WOULD LIKE TO GET THE PALM BAY SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD IN AS WELL. SO WITHOUT GOING OFF ON ANOTHER TANGENT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO BRING TO OUR ATTENTION PROBABLY LATER ON MAYBE HOPEFULLY. BUT SPEAKING WITH ORCA, THEY DID SAY THAT THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO PARTNER FOR, FOR GRANTS WRITTEN ARE WILLING TO HELP US PROVIDE SOME EDUCATION ONTO HOW TO WRITE GRANTS. SINCE THEY HAVE EXPERIENCE. ERIC BLOUNT. OPERATION SUPERINTENDENT. ORCA HAS ALREADY CONTACTED US. WE'VE ALREADY PUT THEM IN CONTACT WITH PARKS AND RECS, AND THEY'RE IN DISCUSSIONS WITH WORKING THAT OUT RIGHT NOW. IF YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING THIS SWALE INSIDE. GOOD PARK. I WOULD ALSO SUGGEST ASKING STAFF TO ENCOURAGE PARKS TO COME HERE BECAUSE IT IS IN THEIR PARK. IT'S IN THEIR PROPERTY. EXCELLENT. YES. I DEFINITELY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY IS INVOLVED IN HOWEVER, THE WAYS THAT THEY NEED TO BE. THIS IS KIND OF AS I SPOKE WITH ORCA AND AS I SPOKE WITH RESTORE OUR SHORES THIS AFTERNOON. THIS IS IN THE VERY EARLY STAGES OF PLANNING. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT I EXPECT THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO MOVE QUICKLY ON. WE WOULD NEED TO FIND FUNDING SOURCES. WE WOULD NEED TO ORGANIZE MULTIPLE ORGANIZATIONS. WE WOULD NEED TO DEVELOP A PLAN. WE WOULD NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY MANAGER IS AVAILABLE AND WILLING TO WORK WITH THE CITY COUNCIL IS AVAILABLE AND WILLING TO WORK WITH IT. THERE'S PLENTY OF STEPS THAT ARE GOING TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS. BUT I WANTED TO GATHER AS MUCH INFORMATION AS I COULD BEFOREHAND. [00:30:06] YES. ASK QUESTIONS. BUT IS THERE A PLACE WHERE WE MIGHT OBTAIN A COPY OF THAT WORK AND ALSO MIGHT BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THOSE RESOURCES TO HELP MOVE THAT FORWARD IN OUR MANAGEMENT AND ACTUAL USE? OH, SORRY I FORGOT. YEAH. YES. SORRY. WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE IT'S ON RECORD. ALRIGHT. CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME NOW? CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY. I WAS SAYING THAT LITTLE GROWERS IS CURRENTLY MANAGING A 665,000 NATIONAL FISH AND WILDLIFE GRANT THAT WE ARE USING TO DO RESTORATION, LIKE BIOSWALES, ETC.. WE'RE ACTUALLY THIS PARTICULAR GRANT IS A PLANNING GRANT, SO WE WOULD PICK UP LIKE TEN PROJECTS THAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND TO THE COMMUNITY AS OPTIONS FOR THEM TO MOVE FORWARD TO THE NEXT PHASE OF FUNDING. THIS SOUNDS LIKE A PROJECT THAT I'M PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN, BECAUSE GOOD PARK IS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER FROM THE HOUSE WHERE I GREW UP, AND IT'S ACTUALLY MY SECRET PLACE. SO WHEN I WAS A KID, I REMEMBER THAT MANATEES, THERE WERE SO MANY THERE THAT THEY WOULD SWIM UP TO US ON THE DOCK, AND NOW YOU CAN'T SEE THEM THERE. SO I WOULD LOVE TO SUPPORT THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD IF YOU DECIDE TO MOVE THIS PROJECT FORWARD. AND I HAVE LOTS OF RESOURCES TO BRING TO THE TABLE IN TERMS OF DESIGNING AND INSTALLING BIOSWALES AS WELL, AND OYSTER REEFS. AND WE JUST RECENTLY DID AN OYSTER REEF AT THE ANCHORAGE AT CRANE CREEK WITH OUR STUDENTS. SO WE HAVE LOTS OF VOLUNTEERS, AND I'D LOVE TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT A PROJECT LIKE THAT. AND WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU ON. THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS GOING TO GET TO IS THAT RIGHT NOW, I'M KIND OF IN THE GATHER RESOURCES PHASE OF THIS PROJECT AS OPPOSED TO EVEN PLANNING. I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND WHO MIGHT BE AVAILABLE TO WORK WITH US. AND I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE YOU STEPPING FORWARD AND VOLUNTEERING BECAUSE GOOD, GOOD PARK IS A SPECIAL PLACE TO ME. I'M JUST EXCELLENT CHAIRPERSON. HERC, IF I MIGHT ADD TO WE, AS MR. BLOUNT HAS SAID, WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE CONTACT WITH GROUPS LIKE ORCA, MRC AS WELL. WANTED TO LOOK INTO DOING A LIVING SHORELINE. I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE EYEING THE CASTAWAY POINT PARK RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS A WHICH IS A FULLY REFURBISHED PARK AT THE MOMENT. AS ERIC HAD SAID, WE DID SEND CERTAIN INQUIRIES TO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT AS IT WOULD BE THEIR CALL. I DO KNOW WITH SOME, LIKE THE MRC MAINTENANCE CAME INTO INTO QUESTION WITH SOME OF THE THINGS THEY WANTED TO DO. MRC SPECIFICALLY WANTED TO DO THE LIVING SHORELINE WITH MANGROVES. AND WHILE MANGROVES GROW SLOWLY, THEY CAN TOP OUT AT 80FT TALL, DEPENDING ON WHETHER YOU USE THE BLACK MANGROVE, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN TYPES OF MANGROVES. SO WHILE THESE ARE ALL GREAT IDEAS, WE DO WANT TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT POSSIBLE MAINTENANCE. THE BIGGEST THING FOR US WAS HURRICANES. I MEAN, IF YOU PLAN THEM IN AN AREA WHERE THERE'S THERE'S NOT A LOT OF BUILDINGS, IT'S JUST FOREST, WETLANDS AND WHATNOT. THAT'S THAT'S FINE. BUT AT SOME POINT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAINTAIN THEM JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO TOP OUT ANYTHING THAT'S, THAT'S ALREADY IN THE AREA. AND THE CITY OF PALM BAY WAS INVITED TO THE BREVARD COUNTY TO THE BREVARD COUNTY SUMMIT FOR MANGROVE TRAINING. AND I KNOW IT'S IT'S YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE LICENSED ARBORISTS. THERE'S A LOT. SO DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU'RE DOING AS FAR AS THE LIVING ECOSYSTEM BUFFERED SHORELINES AND STUFF, JUST TAKE MAINTENANCE INTO ACCOUNT. YES. THANK YOU. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ORCA HAD MENTIONED THAT THEY WANTED TO DO IN KIND OF THAT PIVOT FROM GOOD PARK, WHICH I PRESENTED TO THE EMERGENCY TO CASTAWAY POINT. THEY WANTED TO ACTUALLY COME IN ON OUR NOVEMBER MEETING HERE AT THE PALM BAY SUSTAINABILITY BOARD AND PROVIDE A PRESENTATION TO THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD AND EXPLAIN WHAT THEIR PLANS WERE FOR THE FUTURE WHAT THEY KIND OF HAD AS AN IDEA IF THAT'S A SITUATION THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO BRING PARKS IN TO THAT NOVEMBER MEETING. OBVIOUSLY THERE'S AN AGENDA ITEM WE ARE GOING TO BE WORKING ON LATER ON TONIGHT. RESCHEDULING THAT MEETING. SO THAT IS A KIND OF UP IN THE AIR DATE RIGHT NOW. BUT IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD BRING ALL THOSE RESOURCES IN I BELIEVE THAT ORCA IS PREPARED TO MAKE A PRESENTATION AT THE NEXT SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD AND PRESENT WHAT THEY HAVE MOVING FORWARD WITH PERFECT. AND WE'LL EXTEND THAT INVITATION OUT TO PARKS AS WELL, JUST IN CASE THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS OR, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN ANSWER THEM. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. PERFECT. I'D LIKE TO ADD AS WELL, YOU KNOW, THE MARINE RESOURCE COUNCIL IS HAVING THEIR FIFTH ANNUAL LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT THAT'S ON THE AGENDA. AND GUESS WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA? BIOSWALES. OKAY. BIOSWALES AS LID AND THEY ALSO HAVE THIS IS RELATED TO MISS [00:35:08] HADLEY WHO JUST SPOKE. CREATING A CLIMATE RESILIENT LANDSCAPE. SO IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF INTEREST AND ENERGY REGARDING IN A LOT OF RESOURCES THAT ARE RIGHT AT OUR IMMEDIATE. YES, RIGHT AT OUR FINGERTIPS THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO LEVERAGE. I'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THE LID CONFERENCE BECAUSE I THINK WE SHOULD ALL BE GOING IF AT ALL POSSIBLE. EXCELLENT. YEAH. TO WRAP UP MY MEETING WITH ORCA THAT I HAD THEY DID THINK THAT IT WAS A WORTHWHILE FOR THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD TO FOCUS ON BOTH GOOD PARK AND CASTAWAY POINT. IF WE COULD OBVIOUSLY OUR RESOURCES AND TIME AND ATTENTION AS VOLUNTEERS MAY BE LIMITED. BUT IF ANY OF US ARE WILLING TO STEP IN AND KIND OF SPLIT SOME OF THAT FOCUS AND MEETING UP WITH PEOPLE AND FINDING RESOURCES AND WHATNOT, IT MIGHT BE A WORTHWHILE THING. BASICALLY MY TAKEAWAYS THIS IS MY PERSONAL TAKEAWAYS FROM MY MEETING WITH ORCA. IF THEY THE CITY IS ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH CASTAWAY POINT, ORCA IS BASICALLY READY TO ROLL RIGHT OFF THE BAT. THAT IS A ALMOST IMMEDIATE PROJECT THAT THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO WORK ON. AND THEN GOOD OR GOOD PARK WOULD BE A LONGER TERM PROJECT FOR THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD MOVING FORWARD. THIS AFTERNOON, I WAS ABLE TO ALSO TALK TO RESTORE OUR SHORES FROM BREVARD ZOO. I WAS ABLE TO SNEAK THEM IN RIGHT BEFORE THIS MEETING. THAT WAY, I WAS ABLE TO KIND OF TALK WITH THEM AND FIND OUT WHAT THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO BRING TO THE TABLE. KIND OF THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT ORCA SAID THAT THEY DO. BREVARD ZOO IS MORE THAN HAPPY AND WILLING TO DO BUFFERED SHORELINES IN BREVARD COUNTY. SO AS OPPOSED TO ONLY HAVING THE FOCUS ON LIVING SHORELINES FROM ORCA OR PRIMARILY FOCUSED ON LIVING SHORELINES FROM ORCA RESTORE OUR SHORES IS WILLING TO DO BOTH. THE REASON BEING BEHIND THAT IS THAT IT ACTUALLY ALLOWS THEM FOR MORE OPPORTUNITIES IN BREVARD COUNTY. THERE ARE A LOT OF ALREADY BUILT SEAWALLS AND ALREADY BUILT BUFFER ZONES THAT WOULD PREVENT A LIVING SHORELINE. SO TO HAVE A MORE OVERARCHING IMPACT ON THE COUNTY ITSELF THAT'S WHY RESTORE OUR SHORES IS ABLE TO MOVE THAT DIRECTION. THEY HAVE DONE NUMEROUS PROJECTS THROUGHOUT BREVARD COUNTY INCLUDING BUFFERED SHORELINES ALONG THE WAY, AND THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO SCIENTIFICALLY PROVE THE POSITIVE EFFECTS THAT A BUFFERED SHORELINE CAN HAVE. AND SO I KIND OF TALKED WITH THEM A LITTLE BIT MORE. THEY DON'T BELIEVE THAT THEY HAVE ANY FUNDING RIGHT NOW. THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE. AGAIN, I KIND OF MENTIONED TO THEM THAT THIS WOULD BE A LONG TERM PROJECT FOR THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD. IT MIGHT NOT BE GOOD. PARK MIGHT NOT BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LAUNCH RIGHT OFF THE BAT WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS OR MONTHS OR WHATNOT. BUT THEY DID SAY THAT THEY WOULD KEEP AN EYE OUT FOR ANY GRANT WRITING OPPORTUNITIES THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO FUND THAT KIND OF A DEAL. AND THEN THEY ALSO HAVE A LARGE BASE OF VOLUNTEERS ALONG THE WAY. SO RESTORE OUR SHORES WOULD EVER BRING EXPERTISE. WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO BRING FUNDING, WOULD DEFINITELY BE ABLE TO BRING VOLUNTEERS. SO WE HAVE AN EVER GROWING LIST OF POTENTIALLY USEFUL RESOURCES TO TACKLE A PROJECT LIKE THIS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DID KIND OF GLAZE OVER IS ORCA ACTUALLY SUGGESTED A PHASED APPROACH TO GOOD PARK BECAUSE IT IS 650 LINEAR FEET AND IT IS A REALLY LONG, WIDE SPACE. AND IT IS KIND OF OVERGROWN ALONG THAT SHORELINE TO POTENTIALLY BREAK IT DOWN INTO MULTIPLE PHASES. AND I DID NOTICE WHEN I WAS LOOKING THROUGH THERE, IT DIDN'T LOOK LIKE THAT ACTUAL SEAWALL WENT THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THAT 650 LINEAR FEET. SO I BELIEVE THAT DOES PROVIDE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO POTENTIALLY ATTACK JUST A BUFFERED SHORELINE IN THE AREA WHERE THERE IS A SEAWALL. AND THEN WE'D BE ABLE TO IN A SECOND PHASE OR A LATER PHASE GO IN IN THE REMAINING SECTION AND ACTUALLY DO A LIVING AND BUFFERED SHORELINE POTENTIALLY ALONG THAT WAY. SO JUST KIND OF FOOD FOR THOUGHT ON THAT. THAT IS PRIMARILY WHAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT ON THE REVISIT ON THERE. IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANY SUGGESTIONS, I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN THE FLOOR. YES, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING. OKAY. I THOUGHT WE WERE STICKING TO THE AGENDA. BUT ANYWAY BEFORE I SAY ANYTHING ELSE, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND THE PURPOSE OF AN INTENT OF A SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD. IT'S TO ADVISE AND ASSIST THE CITY COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER, AND CITY STAFF IN MATTERS RELATING TO POLLUTION REDUCTION, WATER QUALITY INITIATIVES, COMMUNITY EDUCATION AND INVOLVEMENT, AND ASSESSING LOCAL ENVIRONMENTAL RISK AS IT PROMOTES A MORE EFFICIENT MANAGEMENT OF THESE ISSUES. WE DO HAVE TO THINK ABOUT MONEY. IT REQUIRES THIS BOARD TO MEASURE THE EFFECT THESE AREAS HAVE ON OUR COMMUNITY'S ABILITY TO THRIVE. I THINK WE GET LOST IN THE WEEDS A LITTLE BIT. [00:40:01] WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE TALKING ABOUT TURKEY CREEK, AND I HAVE A PERSPECTIVE ON THAT THAT'S VERY DIFFERENT FROM EVERYBODY ELSE'S. THE THE BIGGEST PROBLEM WITH TURKEY CREEK RECENTLY HAS BEEN THE AVALANCHE OF MUCK. OKAY. HISTORICALLY, IN THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON, MUCK REMOVAL HAS COST HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. AND IT'S WORSE THAN IT WAS WHEN I MOVED HERE 35 YEARS AGO. THERE ARE OTHER ALTERNATIVES FOR TURKEY CREEK. CERTAINLY WE COULD USE SOMETHING LIKE A MUCK MADE, WHICH IS BILLIONS OF BACTERIA THAT WILL EAT THE MUCK, AND WHEN THEY'RE DONE EATING, THEY DIE. IT'S ABOUT $100 FOR A 4 OR 5 GALLON TUB. YOU DO IT EVERY 50 OR 100 YARDS. ONE TUB IS SUPPOSED TO COVER ABOUT TWO ACRES. IT'S SO LITTLE, AT LEAST TO GET IT STARTED. AND THEN IF YOU HAVE TO REMOVE IT, YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT EVERYTHING THAT GOES ALL THE MUCK IS NOT JUST GARBAGE. EVERY ELEMENT ON THIS PLANET HAS A PURPOSE. AND THERE'S THERE ARE COMPANIES THAT WILL TAKE THE MUCK AND BREAK IT DOWN INTO USEFUL ELEMENTS. HISTORICALLY, WE'VE DEPENDED ON IT'S MOSTLY THE COUNTY DOING IT. WHERE THEY PICK THE MUCK UP, AND A LOT OF TIMES THEY'RE DUMPING IT DOWN HERE. OKAY. THEY THEY PICK IT UP, UP COUNTY AND THEY DUMP IT IN THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON DOWN HERE. AND THE PROCESS WAS TO TAKE THE MUCK AND THEN PUT IT, BAG IT, AND THEN, I DON'T KNOW, I THINK I ASKED YOU, ERIC, IF IT WAS WEIGHED. THEY'RE CHARGING US TO PICK UP THE MUCK OUT OF THE BAFFLE BOXES AND WHATEVER. IF THEY WEIGH IT WET, THERE'S A WHOLE OTHER COST INVOLVED. BUT THEY WERE BRINGING IT UP TO A PARK NORTH OF WICKHAM. WELL, NORTH OF WICKHAM PARK. IN BIODEGRADABLE BAGS. WHICH MEANS EVENTUALLY ALL THAT JUNK GETS BACK INTO THE SOIL. WE HAVE CHEMICALS GOING INTO THE WATER AND IN THE AIR, AND WE REALLY NEED TO STOP THAT. BECAUSE IF I WENT TO YOUR HOUSE AND GAVE YOU A GLASS OF WATER AND THREW, YOU KNOW, A DASH OF CHLORINE, A DASH OF ARSENIC, A DASH OF THAT, I'D BE IN JAIL. AND I SPOKE TO ONE UTILITY PERSON ANONYMOUSLY WHO TOLD ME IN ONE DAY THEY WERE DUMPING. A TON OF DIFFERENT CHEMICALS BECAUSE THE WATER SMELLED BAD OR WHATEVER THE DEAL WAS. BUT AS FAR AS TURKEY CREEK GOES, I THINK AT LEAST INITIALLY, BEFORE YOU GET TO SPENDING THE MONEY, TRY SOMETHING THAT'S LESS EXPENSIVE. YOU CAN BUY IT ON AMAZON. IT'S ANYWHERE FROM 80 TO 100 BUCKS TO COVER 1 TO 2 ACRES AT A TIME. AND YOU DO THAT EVERY COUPLE OF WEEKS BEFORE YOU KNOW IT, YOU DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM. THE BACTERIA DIES OFF ITSELF. THERE ARE. THE WONDERFUL THING ABOUT THIS WORLD IS NATURE GIVES US SO MANY SOLUTIONS. I HAD INTENDED I HAD HOPED THERE WOULD BE REPORTS ON THIS AGENDA, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE VOTED ON LAST SESSION, AND I DON'T SEE IT. I PREPARED FOR IT. I WAS HOPING TO TALK ABOUT PHYTOREMEDIATION BECAUSE THAT'S PLANTS THAT WILL, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, TAKE VIRUSES OUT OF THE AIR. THEY WILL HELP WITH CLEANING WATER, CLEANING SOIL. THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT SOLUTIONS. THERE ARE ACTUALLY 440 PLANTS THAT PHYTOREMEDIATION DIFFERENT ELEMENTS. SOME OF THEM ARE METALS WHICH ARE THE HARDEST TO GET RID OF. AND SOME OF THEM ARE YOU KNOW, JUST STUFF THAT WE DON'T NEED THE NITROGEN AND PHOSPHORUS AND SOME WORK THAT WAY, SOME DON'T. BUT ANYWAY, GETTING BACK TO TURKEY CREEK, WHICH I TRIED TO STICK TO. I REALLY THINK WE SHOULD CONSIDER USING A MUCK MADE EVERY TWO WEEKS, AND IT'S BASICALLY JUST GOING BACK THERE AND DUMPING IT IN AND SEE IF IT WORKS. OKAY, THAT'S ALL I HAVE ON THAT. THANK YOU. YES. I AGREE WITH YOU ABOUT TRYING TO GET RID OF SOME OF THE MUCK ISN'T THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAY POSSIBLE. [00:45:02] IF YOU LOOK AT THE FEASIBILITY STUDY THAT WAS DONE IN 2023, IT ACTUALLY DOES TALK QUITE A BIT ABOUT MUCK DWELLING OR MUCK DREDGING WHICH IS GOING TO BE SUPER EXPENSIVE. AND OBVIOUSLY MIGHT BE A REASON WHY THE CITY DIDN'T WANT TO BUT AN ALTERNATIVE LIKE YOU SUGGESTED MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO LOOK AT AND BRING FORWARD TO THE CITY AS WELL. ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF THE LIVING SHORELINE KIND OF BACK TO WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT OUR ROLE IN THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD AIM IS TO REDUCE POLLUTION AND IMPROVE WATER QUALITY. LIVING WATER LIVING SHORELINES AND BUFFERED SHORELINES CAN FOCUS ON BOTH. YEP. REMINDING EVERYBODY THAT THAT'S SHOULD BE OUR MAIN FOCUS. YES, YES. AND THAT'S DEFINITELY WHAT WE WANT TO KEEP AN EYE ON. IS INCREASING THAT WATER QUALITY. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I ALSO WANTED TO BRING FORWARD WITH THAT IN MIND, THE WATER QUALITY IS THE SURFRIDER FOUNDATION DOES DO A BLUE WATER TASK FORCE. AND THAT IS JUST PART OF WHAT THEY DO AS A VOLUNTEER SITUATION. I WAS LOOKING AT THE BLUE WATER TASK FORCE WEBSITE. AND THERE'S ACTUALLY THREE WATER COLLECTION OR WATER COLLECTION SITES ALONG TURKEY CREEK. ONE IS AT TURKEY CREEK. US ONE ONE IS ALMOST DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM GOOD PARK, AND THEN ONE'S A LITTLE FURTHER UPSTREAM. AND SO WE ACTUALLY CAN RELY ON THIS PUBLICLY AVAILABLE INFORMATION AS TO SEE WHAT THE WATER QUALITY IS AROUND THAT AREA THERE AT TURKEY CREEK. I'D LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING AS WELL. WE'RE BASICALLY A NEW BOARD HERE, AND THIS IS VERY EXCITING, BUT IT IS A NEW DIRECTION. THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD HAS PRIMARILY SERVED AN EDUCATIONAL NEED. AND NOW WE'RE MOVING INTO TAKING ACTION AND CONTRIBUTING BACK TO THE CITY. SO LET'S USE THIS PROJECT. I THINK THERE COULD BE MANY OPPORTUNITIES TO ENGAGE CITIZENS. YOU KNOW, WHERE, AS MISS BARBER SAID, WE ARE A BIT RESTRICTED UP HERE BECAUSE WHEN WE LEAVE HERE, WE CAN'T. WE LEAVE HERE WHAT WE SAY. SO THAT WOULD BE GREAT TO GET CITIZENS. I KNOW THERE WAS A GROUP OF CITIZENS THAT COMBINED COMPILED THIS REPORT. I KNOW COUNCILMAN JOHNSON IS IN TOUCH WITH THOSE CITIZENS, AND THEY MAY BE WILLING TO TAKE IDEAS LIKE, MISS, STEP ON THE MUCK AND YOUR IDEAS AND HELP US PUT THEM TOGETHER AND GIVE IT MORE CONTINUITY AND AND FULLNESS. I THINK IT'S WE'LL EVEN GET COUNCILMAN JOHNSON COUNCILMAN HAMER HAD THE TOWN HALL, TURKEY CREEK SANCTUARY, TOWN HALL. SO THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY. WE HAVE CITY MANAGER MR. MORTON HERE. SO WHO'S GOOD HERE AT CONNECTING ALL THESE DOTS AND PULLING THEM TOGETHER? LET'S LET'S PLAY WITH OUR INTERNAL STRUCTURE AND SEE HOW WE CAN HAVE SOMETHING THAT COMES TO A CONCLUSION, I'D LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING. ALSO, I THINK TURKEY CREEK, WE NEED WE NEED BOTH THE MUCK REMOVAL AND THE LIVING SHORELINES. WE HAVE A LOT OF PRIVATE PROPERTY DIRECTLY ON TURKEY CREEK, AND FOR THEM TO HAVE AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THEIR THEIR WATERFRONT COULD OR SHOULD LOOK LIKE AND TO HAVE DEMONSTRATION OF THE BENEFITS OF IT. HOPEFULLY THEY'LL HAVE SIGNAGE. I THINK IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE, NOT JUST PEOPLE ON TURKEY CREEK, BUT EVERYONE TO SEE THAT WHAT IS POSSIBLE WITH A BIOSWALE INSTEAD OF A DITCH? YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THINK THESE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A DITCH. NO, IT COULD BE A BIOSWALE A BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY AND TO THE WILDLIFE. SO I LOVE THAT IDEA. I THINK IT I DON'T THINK THEY'RE MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE. EXCLUSIVE? THIS SOUNDS LIKE A NEW WAY OF DOING MUCK REMOVAL. WHEN WE MOVED HERE, THEY WERE DOING SOME DREDGING. AND AT THE TIME, IN THE SHORT TERM, IT'S IS VERY DESTRUCTIVE AND NASTY. IT'S JUST NOT A GREAT PROCESS. BUT THIS SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING DIFFERENT. THAT WOULD BE HAVE A NET BENEFIT ALMOST IMMEDIATELY. WITH VERY LITTLE DOWNSIDE. SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE LOOKED AT FUNDING FOR THAT OR IF THERE [00:50:01] ARE PEOPLE, COMMUNITIES WHO WOULD, YOU KNOW, ORGANIZATIONS WHO WOULD STEP UP TO DO BOTH, TO CONSIDER BOTH AT THIS TIME. IT'S I THINK THAT I THINK THAT THE LIVING SHORELINE IS PART OF RESTORATION, THOUGH DEFINITELY THE, THE THE BUFFERED SHORELINE AND THE LIVING SHORELINES NEED TO BE PART OF THE RESTORATION FOR THE PUBLIC BENEFIT OF, YOU KNOW, SHOWCASING WHAT CAN BE DONE. CAN I JUST CLARIFY SOMETHING? WHEN I TALKED ABOUT TAKING THE MUCK OUT AND REPURPOSING IT. WHEN THEY TAKE IT OUT AND BREAK IT DOWN, THEY HAVE BUYERS WHO WILL BUY THE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS. SO IT'S A WAY FOR THE CITY TO GET BACK WHATEVER MONEY THEY SPENT ON HAVING IT PICKED UP. WHEREAS RIGHT NOW THEY TAKE IT PUT IT SOMEPLACE AND YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE THEY'RE PUTTING IT ACTUALLY, BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE THE LANDFILL HAS CLOSED AND THEY'RE LOOKING FOR ANOTHER PLACE TO PUT IT. I DON'T LIKE LANDFILLS. THEY JUST WIND UP POSTPONING A PROBLEM THAT ALREADY EXISTS. ALL RIGHT. I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW THAT IT IS POSSIBLE TO MONETIZE IT. I KNOW THERE WAS SOME REGULATION THAT SAID YOU CAN'T PROFIT FROM THE THINGS THAT YOU DO IN A CITY, BUT I BELIEVE THE PRESIDENT JUST HAD AN EXECUTIVE ORDER THAT SAID, YES, YOU CAN. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR THAT GOES. BUT ANYWAY, CHAIRPERSON HULK I WOULD JUST LIKE TO RECOMMEND EARLIER IN THE YEAR, THE CITY ATTENDED A A MULTI MUNICIPALITY MEETING WITH THE FDEP REGARDING WATER QUALITY, WHICH DID INCLUDE THE TOPIC OF MUCK. UNBEKNOWNST TO MYSELF, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A PRETTY STRINGENT DEFINITION OF WHAT MUCK IS, WHICH IS MUCH DIFFERENT THAN ANY DEFINITION I'VE HEARD MYSELF OR WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER MUCK. THEY ACTUALLY BELIEVE THAT THE THE OVER REMOVAL OR OVER DREDGING, THEY LOOK DOWN ON THAT. THERE'S ACTUALLY SOME THINGS THAT THEY WOULD ACTUALLY DING THE CITY ON. SO JUST ANYTHING WITH MUCK REMOVAL, I'D MAYBE EVEN COUNCIL THEM AS WELL. BRING THEM IN, COORDINATE WITH THEM ON WHAT THEIR EXPECTATIONS OR DEFINITIONS ARE IN THAT JUST IN JUST FOR REFERENCE. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. YES. OKAY. I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. ONE, I WAS WONDERING IF. ERIC, HAVE YOU HEARD OF THIS MILKMAID THING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? NO. OKAY. JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE I FIGURED YOU'RE PRETTY UP ON STUFF. THE SECOND ITEM. I LOVE YOUR PROPOSAL. DOUG, DID YOU SPEAK WITH SURFRIDER, PERCHANCE? DID YOU GET A CHANCE TO TALK TO THEM? YES, I WAS AT THEIR RECENT MEETING LAST WEEK. ALL THE MEETINGS HAVE BEEN RUNNING TOGETHER RECENTLY. BUT I DID SPEAK WITH THEM. THEY PRIMARILY WOULD BE ABLE TO ENGAGE WITH US IN THE FORM OF VOLUNTEERS AND EXPERTISE. THEY DID NOT BELIEVE THAT THEY WOULD HAVE ANY SIGNIFICANT FUNDING SOURCES AVAILABLE FOR IT. AND THEN WHAT THEY PRIMARILY SAID THAT THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO BRING INTO IT WAS EDUCATIONAL SIGNAGE ALONG THE BIOSWALE EXPLAINING WHAT THE BIOSWALE IS, HOW IT WORKS, AND THE BENEFITS OF IT. OKAY. BECAUSE I'VE WORKED WITH BILL DELUCIA ON GRANT WRITING FOR A FEW PARTNERED GRANTS, AND I WAS THINKING OF SURFRIDER AND CONRADINA AND LITTLE GROWERS ALL GOT TOGETHER ON SOME OF THE FUNDING ISSUES OR GRANT WRITING THAT THAT WOULD BE A PRETTY AWESOME TEAM. YES. WHEN I WAS SPEAKING WITH ORCA ABOUT FUNDING THAT'S KIND OF WHAT SHE SAID AS WELL. ORCA MAY NOT BE ABLE TO IMMEDIATELY ENGAGE WITH US IN FUNDING. BUT SHE DID SAY THAT THE MORE COMMUNITY PARTNERS THAT WE ARE ABLE TO BRING IN, OBVIOUSLY THE MORE LIKELIHOOD OF GETTING THE GRANTS AS POSSIBLE. AND SO I WOULD DEFINITELY DON'T WANT TO EXCLUDE ANYONE IF ANYBODY IS WATCHING TONIGHT AND WANTS TO PARTICIPATE IN GETTING SOME BUFFER DRAW LINES IN PLACE. DEFINITELY GET IN TOUCH WITH THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THE TURKEY CREEK FEASIBILITY STUDY REVISIT? NO. NO. OKAY, THEN WE NEED TO SET UP SOME ACTION STEPS THAT WE CAN FOLLOW UP WITH AT THE NEXT MEETING. YES, I BELIEVE WE SHOULD. DOES ANYBODY HAVE A MOTION THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE? WELL, I THINK YOU ALREADY. I MEAN, ONE ACTION STEP IS WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO GET ORCA HERE TO SPEAK, RIGHT? THAT'S A GOOD ONE. VERY GOOD ONE TO START WITH. ANYONE ELSE THAT YOU THINK SHOULD COME SPEAK TO US ABOUT THE PROJECT? I THINK RIGHT NOW, AT THIS POINT IN WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROJECT AND AGAIN, BECAUSE ORCA IS FOCUSED AS [00:55:10] STRINGENTLY AS THEY ARE ON CASTAWAY POINT. I THINK RIGHT NOW, THE GOOD PART THING, I WILL CONTINUE TO WORK ON THAT, AT LEAST IN A PERSONAL CAPACITY ON THE BOARD. AND MAKE SURE THAT I'M ENGAGING OUR FRIENDS AND PARTNERS ALONG THE WAY. I THINK THAT WHEN I WAS HEARING, LISTENING TO IT THE MAJOR SOURCE OF GRANT FUNDING THAT WE WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO RIGHT NOW ACTUALLY HAS A DECEMBER 1ST TIME FRAME TO WHERE WE WOULD HAVE TO ORGANIZE EVERYTHING AND PUT FORTH A GRANT BY DECEMBER 1ST. AND I JUST DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THAT'S A FEASIBLE SITUATION RIGHT NOW. SO I WOULD LIKE TO I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON THE TURKEY CREEK THE GOOD PARK THING. I THINK THAT IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD SHOULD CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON. BUT THAT'S BRINGING IN ORCA FOR THE PRESENTATION IS GOING TO BE PRIMARILY ON CASTAWAY POINT. CAN WE TALK TO PARKS AND REC TO GET THEM PULLED IN, EITHER AT THE MEETING OR BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING. YES, I BELIEVE DEREK SAID THAT THAT MIGHT BE WE WOULD EXTEND AN INVITATION TO PARKS. YEAH, YEAH, WE'LL REACH OUT TO GREG MINOR WITH PARKS AND SEE IF THAT HE EITHER HIMSELF OR SOMEBODY ON STAFF CAN COME AND JUST BE IN, IN THE AUDIENCE IN CASE OF QUESTIONS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. DO WE NEED JUST A PROCEDURAL POINT? DO WE NEED TO PUT FORTH A MOTION TO HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM ORCA, OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN JUST REQUEST? REACH OUT TO THE CITY AND REQUEST TO BE ADDED TO THE AGENDA FOR NOVEMBER? YEAH. THEY COULD THEY CAN REACH OUT TO THE CITY AND WE CAN WE CAN PUT THEM ON THE AGENDA FOR IT, IF THAT'S. YEAH. OKAY. EXCELLENT. YEP. THANK YOU. I WONDER IF WE COULD ASK MR. MORTON IF SOMEHOW WE CAN USE CITY. AND THIS MIGHT BE FOR YOU, TOO, DEREK. I WOULD LIKE A WAY THAT WE CAN REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND LET THE COMMUNITY KNOW WE'RE REACHING OUT TO THEM, AND THAT WE WANT THEM TO ATTEND THE MEETING. AND IF THEY ATTEND THE MEETING, THEY CAN BE CONNECTED WITH THESE NEW TEAMS THAT WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER. AND MAYBE IT DOESN'T HAVE TO COME THROUGH THE CITY ALONE. MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING THAT LIKE WITH THE CONRADINA BUT IF SOMETHING COULD BE CRAFTED A SORT OF AN ANNOUNCEMENT OR JUST. YOU KNOW, ANYTHING, REALLY. IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE VISITED EARLIER WHEN WHEN I FIRST CAME ABOARD, I KNOW WE WERE LOOKING AT ADVERTISEMENT. WE WERE LOOKING AT CERTAIN THINGS THAT COULD PUT THE BOARD OUT THERE TO THE PUBLIC. AT THE TIME I WAS, I WAS TOLD THAT WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING MORE THAN WHAT WE'RE DOING. THAT'S NOT STOPPING THE BOARD FROM REACHING OUT TO PEOPLE PULLING ANYBODY IN. HEY, WE HAVE MEETINGS ON THIS DATE. YOU CAN ABSOLUTELY MAKE YOUR OWN ADVERTISEMENTS. HAND THOSE OUT. YOU CAN. YOU CAN DO ALL OF THAT. IT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING THAT THE CITY CAN BE INVOLVED IN ON YOUR BEHALF. IT IS YOUR BOARD. SO WE CAN HELP YOU WITH SOME OF THE ANALYTICAL THINGS, YOU KNOW, PROVIDING YOU A DATE FOR A MEETING. APPRIZING YOU OF UPCOMING EVENTS WHERE YOU CAN ATTEND AND HELP SPREAD THE WORD OF SUSTAINABILITY. WE JUST CAN'T ACT ON YOUR BEHALF. SO ADVERTISING THINGS OF THAT NATURE, IT WOULD ALL HAVE TO COME FROM YOU SO WE COULD GET IT IN THE NEWSLETTER, THE SURFRIDER. OOPS. THE SURFRIDER PROBABLY ORCA HAS A NEWSLETTER. YOU KNOW, ALL ALL THOSE CHANNELS. YEAH. SEE IF WE CAN WORK WITH OUR NEWLY FOUND PARTNERS TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THEY CAN HELP SPREAD THE INFORMATION FOR US. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE LAST BOARD MEETING WAS OUR ROLES WITHIN THE BOARD AND HOW WE WOULD FOCUS ON THOSE. AND I BELIEVE ONE OF THOSE ASPECTS WAS POTENTIALLY EXPLORING SOCIAL MEDIA CONTENT FOR THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD. SO HOPEFULLY TO, LIKE EILEEN SAID WE DID NOT SEE THAT ON THE AGENDA THAT THERE WERE GOING TO BE BOARD REPORTS TONIGHT. BUT I DO HOPEFULLY THERE WILL BE TIME FOR US TO DO OUR BOARD REPORTS ON THERE, AND HOPEFULLY THERE MIGHT BE SOME UPDATES ON THE SOCIAL MEDIA SIDE OF THINGS ON THE BOARD REPORTS. THAT'S YOUR AREA. ALL RIGHT. SO I BELIEVE THAT FINISHES UP NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER ONE. SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO NEW OUR NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS THE US HIGHWAY ONE MONOLITH REPLANTING PROJECT. OKAY. THAT'S KIND OF A BOARD REPORT. SO KIND OF STARTING. SO DEREK SENT OUT MY THOUGHTS ABOUT IT. I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING BACK FROM MY LITTLE COMMITTEE MEMBERS [01:00:05] BEING DOUG AND EILEEN, DID YOU ALL GET A CHANCE TO DRIVE BY IT OR HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT? I DID, I HAVE PICTURES, OKAY, BUT DID YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS? I THINK OUR YES, I DO OKAY. I STAYED UP NIGHTS FIGURING THIS ONE OUT. I DROVE BY THE MONOLITH AND IF I BLINKED, I DIDN'T SEE IT. IT'S IT'S A GRAY COLOR AND YOU'D NEVER KNOW IT WAS THERE. AND THE PLANTS, WHATEVER THEY PUT IN THERE, I DON'T KNOW, IT'S RIDICULOUS. BUT ANYWAY, FOR YOU TO SEE IT, WE NEED A LITTLE BIT OF COLOR. AND WE NEED THINGS THAT REQUIRE NEXT TO NO MAINTENANCE. WE DON'T WANT TO BE PICKING WEEDS OUT OF IT. SO THESE I CAME UP WITH TWO ALTERNATIVES AND I SPOKE TO DEREK EARLIER ABOUT THE DEPTH, IF IT'S A SOIL BOTTOM ON THE BIG BOX THESE ARE TAPROOTS, SO THEY GO STRAIGHT DOWN IN THE MIDDLE. SO IT ONLY NEEDS ONE TREE, BUT THE TWO THAT I LIKE, ONE IS NATIVE, THE OTHER IS COMPATIBLE, BUT THE NATIVE ONE ONLY LASTS ABOUT A MONTH. THIS IS IT'S LIKE A WISTERIA, ALMOST. IT COMES OUT FOR. WE'RE LUCKY IF IT LASTS FOR FOR A MONTH, BUT IT GROWS TO ABOUT 60FT. THE MONOLITH IS I EYEBALLING, AND I'LL SAY ABOUT 35FT. YEAH. OH, MR. CHAIRPERSON, IF I COULD. YES. JUST WE WE REACHED OUT. WE HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT WE SENT OUT TO SOME OF THE ENGINEERS. WE'RE WAITING TO HEAR BACK ON THAT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS MENTIONED WAS TOUCHED UPON WAS AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR PLANTS TO BEAUTIFY THE PLANTER. THEY WANT TO STICK STRICTLY TO THE PLANNER. WE ALSO INQUIRED ABOUT THE MEDIAN, BUT IT'S KIND OF AN UNSAFE PRACTICE AT THIS TIME. I'M ONLY LOOKING AT THE BOXES IN THE RIGHT. NO, AND I'M JUST MAKING ALL THE INFORMATION THAT I HAVE CURRENTLY AWARE TO THE BOARD FOR, FOR REFERENCE. BUT THE TREES WERE PROBABLY GOING TO STAY AWAY FROM AT THIS TIME. REALLY? YEAH. BECAUSE THAT WOULD, YOU'D HAVE NOTHING TO DO THE OTHER. WELL, NO. AND ABSOLUTELY. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. I LOVE WOW AND THEY, THEY CLEAN THE AIR. THEY TAKE VIRUSES OUT OF THE AIR. YEAH. THEY GROW IN THAT BOX. MOST LIKELY IT WON'T GROW BEYOND 30, 33FT. SO THE OTHER THING THAT WE HAVE TO CONTEND WITH IS THERE'S ACTUALLY ELECTRICAL COMPONENTS INSIDE OF THAT BASE, BECAUSE THERE USED TO BE LIGHTS OUT THERE TO LIGHT UP THE MONOLITH. SO WE JUST NEED TO TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT TO ANY KIND OF ROOT SYSTEM THAT'S GOING TO COMPROMISE THAT ELECTRICAL SYSTEM IS A TAPROOT GOES DOWN DEEP, THOUGH IT'S NOT A SPREADER LIKE AN OAK TREE, LIKE OAK TREES, WHATEVER THE THE BRANCH WIDTH IS, THAT'S WHERE THE ROOTS ARE ENDING. AND BELIEVE ME, I KNOW THAT NIGHTMARE. THE OTHER THINGS THAT I. THE ONE ON THE SIDE I'M LOOKING AT THE THE DWARF PALM. I THINK THAT WOULD FIT NICELY IN THERE. IT ALSO MATCHES THE LOGO FOR PALM BAY. BUT FOR GROUND COVER, INSTEAD OF PUTTING BARK CHIPS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT IN THERE, CREEPING MYRTLE GROUND COVER, AND IT'LL CASCADE OVER IT WILL IT'LL ELIMINATE WEEDS. IT WILL COVER IT COMPLETELY. AND THERE'S NO MAINTENANCE. EXCEPT MAYBE YOU'LL HAVE TO TRIM IT AT SOME POINT, MAYBE TEN YEARS FROM NOW. I DON'T KNOW, BUT I LIKE TREES THAT DO SOMETHING GOOD FOR THE AIR. AND THE ROOTS AREN'T TOO INVASIVE. AND THESE ARE ALL TAPROOTS. SO THEY GROW, THEY GO STRAIGHT DOWN. HOW FAR OUT IN WIDTH DO THEY EXPAND? PROBABLY NO WIDER THAN THE THE TRUNK OF THE TREE. OKAY. BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY THAT'S AGAIN, THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT I'M NOT AWARE OF IS WHERE THE ELECTRICAL COMPONENTS ARE, HOW BIG THEY ARE, HOW WELL THIS IS FOR CONSIDERATION. IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, BUT I LIKE THIS ONE. IT'S CALLED GOLDEN SHOWER. IT'S VERY THICK AND IT LASTS SPRING INTO AT LEAST HALF OF THE SUMMER. SO THAT WILL BRING PEOPLE'S ATTENTION BECAUSE AS IT EXPANDS, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE IT COMING BOTH WAYS. AND THEN THE CONTRAST IN COLOR I LIKE PURPLE. YOU WANT PINK? THE PINK WILL BE FINE. BUT THE MAIN THING IS TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE GROUND RATHER THAN BARK CHIPS, [01:05:02] BECAUSE THEY FLY AWAY AND AND WEEDS GET IN THEM. EVEN ROCKS EVENTUALLY JUST SPEND MORE TIME PICKING WEEDS OUT. AND WE DON'T NEED THAT. WE NEED SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE THERE AND FLOURISH. INITIALLY. YES. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE IT'S TAKING. BUT AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE THAT EXPENSIVE BECAUSE THEY'RE FAST GROWING. YOU CAN START THEM FROM SEEDS IN LIKE A CLOTH POT. AND THEN WHEN YOU'RE READY TO PLANT IT, YOU CAN PUT IT IN THE GROUND. I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SEE A LAYER OF BIOCHAR UNDER IT RATHER THAN USE CHEMICAL FERTILIZERS. BIOCHAR DOES A BETTER JOB AND IT IS BUG REMEDIATING. AND OH. THE OTHER THING IS WITH THESE TREES, ESPECIALLY THIS ONE, THE TRUMPET. GOLDEN TRUMPET. THAT'S THE NATIVE. THAT'S A NATIVE PLANT. THEY'RE BUTTERFLY AND BE HAPPY, OKAY? THEY ATTRACT BUTTERFLIES AND BEES. AND SINCE IT'S IN A MEDIUM, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT PEOPLE BEING ATTACKED. SO THAT'S WHAT I HAVE. THANK YOU. I ALSO HAD SOME SUGGESTIONS FOR THAT AREA. I LIKED THE SUGGESTIONS THAT WERE PASSED ALONG FOR THE NATIVE PLANTS ON THERE. KIND OF TO EILEEN'S POINT ON THERE, ONE OF THE I NOTICED ONE OF THE PLANTERS IS DOWN ON THE GROUND LEVEL EFFECTIVELY AND HAS AN AREA STICKING OUT THE BACK ADDING SOME GREEN SPACE AND SOME HEIGHT TO THAT. I WOULD ACTUALLY WAS GOING TO RECOMMEND A JAMAICA CAPER. THEY GROW ROUGHLY AROUND 10 TO 15FT TALL. SO THEY'RE NOT REALLY A TREE PER SE. THEY'RE MORE LIKE A LARGE SHRUB. AND THEY DO HAVE VERY SHOWY FLOWERS. THEY TURN PINK. THE FRUIT, WELL, ONCE RIPENED, WILL ACTUALLY GIVE A NICE BRIGHT BURST OF COLOR ON THERE. I THINK THAT THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD SUGGESTION FOR THAT BACK PART OF THERE. THE SUGGESTIONS ALONG THE WAY WERE ALSO PINK MUHLY GRASS AND BLUE WATERWEED WHICH ARE GREAT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE INVOLVED IN THAT SPOT, IF IT'S FEASIBLE, I KNOW IT'S FROM BEING A NATIVE GARDENER MYSELF. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE EASIEST THING TO COME ALONG. WOULD BE SOME TUBEROSA MILKWEED SOME BUTTERFLY WEED. THAT WOULD BRING IN ANOTHER BURST OF COLOR IN THERE. IT WOULD BRING SOME NICE BLUE OR ORANGE COLORS IN THERE WHEN THEY BLOOM. AND TUBEROSA IS A BASICALLY FULLY DRY PLANT, SO THERE IS NO NEED FOR SUPPLEMENTAL WATERING AND IRRIGATION IN THERE. AND THAT ACTUALLY KIND OF TIED INTO POTENTIALLY BRINGING IN THE CITY AS A MONARCH WAY STATION AS WELL. IF WE'RE ABLE TO GET THAT MONARCH WAYSTATION CERTIFICATION AND PUT A SIGN OUT THERE SAYING THAT WE ARE SORT OF MONARCH WAY STATION, IT KIND OF BRINGS MORE VISIBILITY FROM THE OUTSIDE TO THAT PALM BAY MONOLITH. UP ON THE UPPER LEVEL OF THE PLANTER, SOME DUNE SUNFLOWER IS GOING TO BE PERFECT. VERY LOW MAINTENANCE ON THERE. I LOVE MY DUNE SUNFLOWER, AND IT WILL SPREAD AND DRIP DOWN AND FALL DOWN AND KIND OF PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA LAYERING AND EFFECT ON THERE. ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, IF IT IS POSSIBLE IS ACTUALLY SOME QUIRKY STEM PASSION VINE OR SOME MAYPOP FASHION VINE BECAUSE THAT, LIKE EILEEN SAID, THAT IS JUST A GIGANTIC GRAY STONE MONOLITH BRIGHT COLORS. YES. BUT THESE ARE ALSO DROUGHT RESISTANT, SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT WATERING THEM ONCE THEY'RE SET. YEP, AND THE CORKY STEM AND THE MAYPOP ARE ALSO GOING TO BE DROUGHT RESISTANT ON THERE. AND THOSE ARE ACTUALLY VINING PLANTS. SO THEY WOULD ACTUALLY EVENTUALLY CLIMB POTENTIALLY UP THE MONOLITH ITSELF. AND THEN THEY ARE ALSO A HOST PLANT TO GO FERTILE AREAS. AND ZEBRA LONGWINGS AND ZEBRA LONGWINGS ARE THE STATE BUTTERFLY. SO IT WOULD BE A GOOD WAY OF TYING IN STATE SYMBOLS AND WHATNOT INTO THE PALM BAY MONOLITH AS WELL. WELL, THANK YOU FOR THOSE SUGGESTIONS. COULD YOU? I MEAN, I'M DEREK. I'M KIND OF JUST WINGING IT HERE, BUT MAYBE IF YOU ALL COULD DOCUMENT THOSE WHAT YOU ALL JUST READ OUT AND YOUR PICTURES AND ALL THAT, AND I WOULD COMPILE IT AND THEN SEND IT TO YOU AND ERIC TO REVIEW. ONCE YOU GET MORE OF THE ELECTRICAL AND WHATNOT INFORMATION, YOU COULD KIND OF PICK AND CHOOSE FROM SOME OF THOSE OPTIONS. YEAH. IS THAT IS THAT SOUND FEASIBLE? YEAH, IT'S IT'S FEASIBLE. I THINK I AND AGAIN I THINK THE, THE SO FAR THE ONLY THING THAT'S KIND OF BEEN A TOPIC OF CONTENTION IS JUST THE TREES. RIGHT? AT THE SAME TIME, IT'S NOT EVEN JUST THE ELECTRICAL. IT'S ALSO A SAFETY THING WITH HURRICANES. FLORIDA'S NOTORIOUS FOR HURRICANES. [01:10:03] THE ONE THING THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH CONSTANTLY DURING A HURRICANE IS ALL THE TREE DEBRIS THAT FALLS INTO THE ROAD. I THINK THE ONE THING THAT WE DON'T WANT IS THE MONOLITH TO GET DESTROYED OR STRUCK BY ANY KIND OF BIG, TOWERING TREES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO IF WE COULD STICK TO THE PLANS THAT KIND OF HELP ACCENT THE MONOLITH AND MAKE THE MONOLITH THE SET PIECE, I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A BETTER DIRECTION TO GO. BUT. YEAH. NO. RIGHT. SEND US EVERYTHING YOU'RE THINKING OF, AND WE'LL TAKE THAT IN IN AND REVIEW IT AND TELL YOU WHAT WORKS BEST FOR SURE. YEAH. AND MAYBE EILEEN AND DOUG, WHEN YOU SEND IN YOUR THOUGHTS IF YOU WHATEVER RESEARCH YOU'VE DONE ON HEIGHT OF PLANT AND, YOU KNOW, DROUGHT TOLERANT ETC., ETC. AND THEN WE COULD JUST PUT THAT. I'LL PUT IT IN A MATRIX SO THEY HAVE THAT INFORMATION WHEN THEY'RE PICKING AND CHOOSING WHICH ONES THEY'D REALLY LIKE TO GO WITH. YOU KNOW, JUST THIS KIND OF TIES BACK INTO THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD EARLIER TODAY ABOUT THE SUNSHINE LAWS. IS THERE A WAY THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO COORDINATE THAT KIND OF STUFF OUTSIDE OF THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD MEETINGS THEMSELVES? IT'S EXTREMELY HARD. I KNOW THAT I HAVE SENT OUT SOME THINGS ON ON JANE'S BEHALF. I'VE SENT OUT THINGS ON YOUR BEHALF. IT'S REALLY HARD BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF THE DISCUSSION SHOULD TAKE PLACE DURING THE SUSTAINABILITY MEETING. YES. AT THIS, AT THIS TIME, THERE'S REALLY THERE'S REALLY NO OTHER OPTION THAT I COULD PROVIDE YOU EXCEPT FOR. JUST TAKE NOTES, TAKE DOWN EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. AND JUST BRING IT TO THE MEETING. RIGHT. WE CAN CONTINUE TO HELP FACILITATE, BUT WE ALSO CAN'T BE THERE 24 OVER SEVEN TO SEND OUT EMAIL AFTER EMAIL. UNDERSTANDABLE. YEAH. YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES YOU FEEL LIKE THE OLD PHONE OPERATOR IN THE, IN THE 50S WAKE UP AT MIDNIGHT AND YOU'RE. I'LL CONNECT YOUR CALL, PLEASE. YOU KNOW, SO BUT NO, I AGAIN, WE'RE HERE TO HELP. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, LET US KNOW. IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN SEND OUT, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO SEND IT OUT. BUT THE MAJORITY OF THE OF THE DISCUSSION SHOULD TAKE PLACE HERE AT THE MEETING. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. SO WE'RE REALLY JUST DOCUMENTING WHAT WAS SAID TO TONIGHT. IF THEY SEND YOU THEIR SUGGESTIONS. I'M SORRY. JANE, COULD YOU SAY IT ONE MORE TIME? IF THEY IF DOUG AND EILEEN SEND YOU THEIR SUGGESTIONS AND YOU SEND IT TO ME, THEN I COMPILE A MATRIX, THEN THAT'S LEGIT. THAT'S. WE'RE GOOD BECAUSE. YEAH, IF IT IF IT IF IT COMES FROM SO CITY STAFF CAN SEND IT OUT TO EACH INDIVIDUAL INDIVIDUAL MEMBER. AND THEN THAT'S WITHIN SUNSHINE LAW, RIGHT? THE ONLY OTHER THING TOO, AND I THINK THIS WAS MENTIONED BEFORE, I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT SCHEDULE IS PERMITTED. WE CAN ALSO SCHEDULE A FIELD TRIP FOR ALL OF YOU TO GO OUT THERE, TAKE A LOOK AT IT WHENEVER SCHEDULES PERMIT AND BOTH SIDES YOURS AND THE CITY'S. SO THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO CONSIDER TOO, IF YOU JUST WANT TO, YOU KNOW, GIVE SCHEDULES, TIMES, AVAILABILITIES TO EVERYBODY. AND WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU WANT TO DO. YEAH. I THINK IT'S THE BOTTOM LINE IS GOING TO BE THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COMPILE SOME DATA. YEAH. SO YEAH JUST ONE LITTLE PLUG FOR MY GOLDEN SHOWER TREE. YEAH. PLEASE. IT'S A SYMBOL OF HONOR AND PROSPERITY. OKAY. THIS WILL SHOW UP. IF YOU PUT SOMETHING A COUPLE OF FEET DOWN, YOU'RE GOING TO BE WEEDING ALL THE TIME. THAT'S SO MY HEAD WAS WHERE IT'S ONE AND DONE, YOU KNOW. BUT I BELIEVE WE HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT. IS IT OKAY FOR ME TO BRING THE PUBLIC COMMENT IN ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? YES. IF YOU'D LIKE TO HEAR IT, YOU MAY. YES. LYDIA BARBER, 1638 FORK TERRACE SOUTHEAST. SEVERAL OF YOU KNOW THAT ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS ABOUT INVASIVE PLANTS. AND THERE IS A FLORIDA INVASIVE SPECIES WEBSITE. IT'S LISTED BY SCIENTIFIC NAME ORDER, AND I HAVE COPIED AND PASTED THAT WEBSITE INFORMATION ONTO A SPREADSHEET SO THAT IT COULD BE SEEN BY COMMON NAME ORDER. AND I THINK THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE VERIFIED AS WELL. FOR ALL OF THE ONES THAT THAT ARE BEING RECOMMENDED, BECAUSE I THINK A COUPLE OF THEM ARE ON ON THE INVASIVE LIST. OKAY. WHEN THINGS ARE POTTED, THEY THEY TEND TO LIMIT THEMSELVES TO THE FRAMEWORK. YOU KNOW, EVEN EVEN WITH TREES, THEY CAN ONLY GO SO FAR AND THEY LIMIT. SO BUT THEY'LL RESEED. AND THAT LIST IS ON THE BREVARD LANDSCAPE TOUR DOT WEBSITE. AND UNDER THE RESOURCES IS WHERE WE PUT LIDIA'S LIST. AND I'M UPDATING IT AGAIN BECAUSE THEY'VE JUST UPDATED. [01:15:03] OH. OH, GREAT. YEAH. I HAVE AN IDEA. LET ME RUN IT BY THE BOARD. THE CONRADINA NATIVE PLANT SOCIETY HAS A GROUP OF ACTIVE CITIZENS. THEY'RE CALLED THE RESTLESS NATIVES. I'M WONDERING IF THIS GOES BACK TO SUNSHINE. IF WE COULD ASK ONE OF THE RESTLESS NATIVES TO TAKE ON BEING JUST A COORDINATOR OF THIS PROJECT. THAT WOULD BE OUTSIDE THE BOARD. BUT THINGS LIKE WE WANT TO EXPLORE GRANTS OR THE MUCK OR REGARDING THE MONOLITH, CERTAIN USE OF LIKE BIOCHAR FOR WHATEVER IT IS THAT IF WE COULD TASK SOMEONE OUTSIDE OF THE BOARD TO REPORT BACK, WE WOULD DO REPORTING TO. BUT WITH THAT, ARE WE ALLOWED TO TALK TO THE PERSON? THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL GOING TO BOIL DOWN TO. YOU MEAN OUTSIDE OF? WELL, I THINK WE COULD TALK TO THAT PERSON. AND IF YOU JUST HAPPEN TO BE HERE LISTENING. I'M TRYING. YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT WOULD ENGAGE CITIZENS AND ALSO KIND OF KEEP US ON TASK. I DON'T WANT US. WE'RE VERY EXCITED TONIGHT ALREADY. I'M THINKING, OH MY GOSH I THINK IN TERMS OF TASK AND GETTING THINGS DONE. SO I THINK A LOT OF WHAT IT'S GOING TO BOIL DOWN TO JUST TO STAY WITHIN SHAUN COMPLIANCE IS GOING TO BE A LOT OF PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. AS MUCH AS I DON'T WANT TO PUT THAT BURDEN ON INDIVIDUALS THERE IS A LOT OF IT THAT'S GOING TO TAKE I UNDERSTAND THE DESIRE TO WORK AS A BOARD. AND WE DEFINITELY WANT TO WORK AS A BOARD ON MOVING FORWARD WITH THESE KIND OF THINGS. BUT A LOT OF IT IS GOING TO BE WHAT IS YOUR INDIVIDUAL PASSION? WHAT IS YOUR INDIVIDUAL PROJECT? WHAT CAN YOU FOCUS ON AS AN INDIVIDUAL? AND KIND OF DRIVE THAT AS BEST YOU CAN AND THEN REPORT BACK. THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY I WANTED TO ADD THE BOARD REPORTS TO THE AGENDAS IS SO THAT WE HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY AS INDIVIDUALS TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE WANT UNDER SUNSHINE COMPLIANCE ON THERE. I DO UNDERSTAND THE DESIRE, AND I DO WISH THAT WE HAD OTHER WAYS OF COMMUNICATING OUTSIDE OF THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD MEETINGS THEMSELVES. UNFORTUNATELY, I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO FIND ANY SOLUTIONS TO THAT THAT KEEP US COMPLIANT ON THERE. HOPEFULLY WE ARE ABLE TO IDENTIFY SOME THINGS IN THE FUTURE, BUT I THINK A LOT OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING IS GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY, KIND OF LIKE I HAVE TAKEN ON CONTACTING ORCA AND EVERYTHING ALL ON MY OWN. NOT NECESSARILY THE BEST WAY OF HANDLING THINGS WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO WORK TOGETHER AS A BOARD. BUT UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S THE LIMITATIONS WITHIN SUNSHINE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE STUCK WITH. IF I MAY, IT IS GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE. AGAIN, I COULD EASILY SAY, OH, YEAH, YOU COULD PICK A SATURDAY OUT OF THE MONTH AND YOU COULD ALL GET TOGETHER. BUT, I MEAN, WE ALL HAVE LIVES, SO THAT'S THE HARD PART. AGAIN, THE CITY IS HERE TO ASSIST IN ANY WAY THAT WE CAN, WITHIN REASON. JUST TO TO TOUCH ON JANE'S POINT ABOUT OR OR SUSAN'S POINT ABOUT TALKING TO AN INDIVIDUAL, THE ONLY THING I WOULD SUGGEST WITH THAT IS I WOULDN'T WANT THERE TO BE A MISREPRESENTATION OF THE BOARD, EVEN IF EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME PICTURE. BUT A WORD IS PUT INTO THE CONVERSATION BETWEEN YOU AND THAT INDIVIDUAL THAT MISREPRESENTS THE BOARD. I BELIEVE THAT MIGHT TOUCH ON THE BOUNDARY OF VIOLATING SUNSHINE LAW. IT WAS A VERY GOOD A VERY GOOD SCENARIO THAT I'D LIKE TO RESEARCH FURTHER, JUST FOR MY OWN REFERENCE AS WELL. SO I CAN TAKE THAT BACK AND GET BACK TO YOU DURING THE NEXT MEETING. BUT YEAH, IT'S IT'S REALLY GOING TO COME DOWN TO EITHER WE, WE STICK TO JUST THE MEETINGS OR IF THERE'S A WAY FOR ALL OF YOU TO GET TOGETHER SOMETIME DURING THE MONTH IN BETWEEN MEETINGS TO CONDUCT BUSINESS. OTHERWISE IT'S PROBABLY JUST GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE TO BE DONE HERE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I OVERHEARD THE CITY COUNCIL TALKING ABOUT IS THE USE OF EXECUTIVE MEETINGS. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO AS A BOARD AS WELL, TO WHERE WE COULD SCHEDULE SOMETHING SPECIFICALLY AS A BOARD AND GATHER IN KIND OF LIKE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT VOLUNTEERING ON A WEEKEND OR WHATNOT. BASICALLY, ORGANIZE THAT AS A BOARD, AS HAVING OUR OWN. OR WOULD THAT HAVE TO BE PUBLICLY BROADCAST WITH UNDER SUNSHINE? I CAN LOOK INTO IT. FORGIVE ME. I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE EXECUTIVE MEETINGS. THERE MAY ALSO BE SOME THINGS THAT ARE AFFORDED TO COUNCIL EXCLUSIVELY THAT MAY NOT BE AFFORDED TO BY LIKE PLANNING AND ZONING YOUR BOARD. SO IT'S SOMETHING, AGAIN, THAT I CAN, I CAN EDUCATE MYSELF ON AND ASK AROUND AND GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. OH, I HAVE ANOTHER IDEA. KEEP THEM COMING. WHAT I WOULD LIKE IS A PERSONAL ASSISTANT. [01:20:02] I MEAN, I LOOK AT WHAT YOU'RE DOING, AND IS THERE A WAY THAT WE COULD, AGAIN ENGAGE A CITIZEN SOMEBODY OUT THERE THAT COULD WORK INDIVIDUALLY WITH US? TO EVEN SET UP MEETINGS OR TO DO SOME OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE TASKS. IS THAT A VIOLATION? I BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE WITHIN SUNSHINE, AS LONG AS THEY ARE IN A VOLUNTEER POSITION AND NOT OFFICIALLY ARE ON CITY STAFF OR GOVERNMENT STAFFER ON THE BOARD ASSIGNED TO THE BOARD. I DON'T THINK THEY CAN SHUFFLE COMMUNICATIONS BACK, BUT BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN US, I THINK THAT IS A VIOLATION. YES. I THINK THAT IF WE WERE TO MEET IN A PUBLIC AT ANOTHER PUBLIC EVENT THAT WAS BEING BROADCAST, THAT IF WE WERE, YOU KNOW, AT A MEETING THAT WAS ALREADY BEING RECORDED BY THE CITY THAT WE COULD, YOU KNOW, SPEAK THEN. BUT THAT WOULD BE ON THE RECORD NOT, YOU KNOW, IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM. IT WOULD BE AT THE FRONT. SO IT IS. I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THAT HAVING ANOTHER PERSON BROUGHT IN HELPS THE SITUATION. IN A WAY. CAMILLE HADLEY HAD AS A CITIZEN AND HAS COME FORWARD TO SAY SHE WOULD HELP WITH GRANTS. THIS IS ON THE OTHER PROJECT ON THE TURKEY CREEK RESTORATION. I HAVE A VISION. IF WE TASKED SOMEBODY LIKE THAT TO COME WITH GRANTS AND RESEARCH OR AND GET INDIVIDUAL REPORTS, IS THAT. I'M TRYING. IF THEY GAVE THEM TO THE BOARD, IF WE IF YOU HAD SOMEONE WILLING TO DO TASKS OUTSIDE OF MEETING FOR THE BOARD AND COME BACK TO THE BOARD TO REPORT, RIGHT, BUT THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TALK TO US INDIVIDUALLY AND THEN SHARE WHAT WE. YES, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M SAYING THOUGH, IS WE WOULD HAVE A NARROW, A CLEARLY DEFINED TASK AND ACTION TASK THAT THEY COULD IN THE FOUR WEEKS BETWEEN WE MEET, MEET WITH PEOPLE AND I GUESS THEY COULD CALL US OR TALK TO US, BUT THEY WOULD PRIMARILY COME BACK WITH A REPORT. YEAH, IN SOME WAY. I MEAN, WE'RE TAKING ON A LOT HERE RIGHT NOW, AND I WANT TO DO IT ALL. YEAH, THAT'S I MEAN, I WOULD VERY MUCH APPRECIATE SOME ASSISTANCE BECAUSE I HAVE I WORK A FULL TIME JOB AND I HAVE BEEN RUNNING AROUND LIKE A CHICKEN WITH MY HEAD CUT OFF. AND I EVEN TOOK PTO YESTERDAY. TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THE MEETING WITH ORCA. ASSISTANCE WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. THE HARDEST PART IS GOING TO BE IT'S OBVIOUSLY A VOLUNTEER UNPAID POSITION, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT CITIZEN WOULD HAVE TO BE WILLING TO DO ALMOST THANKLESSLY. AND THAT'S, I THINK, WHERE THE DIFFICULTY IS GOING TO LIE, TRYING TO FIND SOMEBODY. WE ALL STARTED. THAT IS TRUE. YES. ALL RIGHT. I DO WE HAVE ANY ACTION ITEMS ON NEW BUSINESS? ITEM NUMBER TWO? ANY. YES. THE ACTION ITEM WAS THAT DOUG AND EILEEN ARE GOING TO GET ME THEIR PLANT IDEAS AND ANY PLANT IDENTIFICATION INFORMATION THEY HAVE. ACTUALLY, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET IT TO ME. THEY'RE GOING TO GET IT TO DEREK AND THEN DEREK'S GOING TO GET IT TO ME. AND THEN I WILL COMPILE IT INTO A MATRIX AND GET THAT BACK TO DEREK. SO HE COULD SIGN IT OUT. YOU GUYS COULD DOUBLE CHECK IT. AND EVENTUALLY IT GOES TO ERIC AND DEREK TO CONSIDER ALONG WITH THE ELECTRICAL CONSIDERATIONS. THAT'S THE ACTION ITEM. EXCELLENT. OKAY. CAN WE DO PICTURES. IS THAT AVAILABLE TO US? I'M SORRY. WE DO A DOCUMENTARY OF THIS MONOLITH PROJECT. THIS IS REALLY BIG. THIS IS GOING TO BE VISIBLE. AND AT THE COUNCIL MEETING COUNCILMAN HAMMER BROUGHT IT UP BEFORE THE COUNCIL AND GOT THEIR CONSENSUS APPROVAL. EVERYBODY'S FOR IT. WOULDN'T IT BE GREAT TO SHOW PICTURES STEP BY STEP? AND COUNCILMAN HAMMER ALSO SUGGESTED HAVING SIGNAGE BY THE PALM BAY SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD. SO. I'LL LOOK TO YOU, DEREK, FOR. WELL, SO AS, AS SOMEONE ON STAFF THAT HANDLES ENVIRONMENTAL, ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES AND, AND VOLUNTEER OPPORTUNITIES THAT BETTER THE ENVIRONMENT. I KNOW THAT I MYSELF JUST FROM MY REFERENCE TO WOULD BE OUT THERE COLLECTING PICTURES AND VIDEO TO USE IN FUTURE PRESENTATIONS OR THINGS LIKE THAT. [01:25:10] I CAN DOUBLE CHECK AND SEE ONCE WE GET THE GROUND, ONCE WE GET THE BALL ROLLING. SEE HOW BIG WE CAN. WE CAN MAKE IT. I'M SURE THE CITY WOULD BE INTERESTED AS WELL, LIKE THE PIO TEAM MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN. YEAH, CAPTURING IT AS WELL. BUT I KNOW I WILL DEFINITELY BE THERE TO TAKE PICTURES AND VIDEOS AND ALL KINDS OF FUN STUFF. OH WELL, THAT BRINGS UP T SHIRTS, BUT I'LL SAVE THAT FOR A LITTLE LATER. YES. ALL RIGHT. I BELIEVE THAT CONCLUDES NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER TWO. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER THREE, WHICH IS RESCHEDULING THE NOVEMBER SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD. IF I COULD ASK FOR RECOMMENDATIONS AS TO WHAT DATES MIGHT BE AVAILABLE FOR NOVEMBER. YES. SO FOR NOVEMBER, WE CURRENTLY HAVE TUESDAY THE 24TH, AND WE ALSO HAVE MONDAY THE 10TH. SO MONDAY THE 10TH, TUESDAY THE 24TH, THOSE ARE THE TWO THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO US AT THIS TIME. THE 24TH IS ON A MONDAY. IS IT? YES, THE 24TH IS MONDAY. ARE YOU TALKING TUESDAY? THE 25TH? I AM TALKING TUESDAY THE 25TH. YES. SORRY. SO YOU SAID TUESDAY THE 25TH. AND WHAT WAS THE OTHER DATE? I APOLOGIZE, MONDAY THE 10TH. SO THAT THE 25TH IS THE DAY BEFORE WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN OUR REGULAR MEETING? WHAT WOULD BE OUR NORMALLY SCHEDULED MEETING. YES. PERSONALLY, TO OPEN UP THE DISCUSSION ON THIS, I WOULD BE ALL FOR TUESDAY THE 25TH. IF THAT IS WORKING FOR EVERYBODY ELSE, THAT JUST MOVES THE DAY UP. ONE IT GIVES PLENTY OF TIME FOR ORGANIZING AND TRYING TO GET INDIVIDUALS OUT TO THE MEETING. BUT DOES NOT CONFLICT DIRECTLY WITH HOLIDAY SCHEDULES FOR ANYBODY WHO MIGHT BE HEADED OUT OF TOWN OR NOT WANTING TO WORK. CITY STAFF ON THE DAY BEFORE THANKSGIVING. THE 10TH IS THE CONRADINA MEETING. AND I KNOW THERE ARE THREE OF US WHO BELONG TO THAT ORGANIZATION. SO THAT WOULD BE A CONFLICTING SCHEDULE. YES, THAT WOULD BE, YEAH. SO THE 25TH, IS THERE ANYBODY WHO IS OPPOSED ON THE BOARD FOR TUESDAY, THE 25TH BEING THE RESCHEDULED DATE FOR THE SUSTAINABILITY? I'M GOOD ANY TIME. IT'S FINE. I HAVE A COMMITMENT THAT EVENING. I'M NOT SURE. YEAH, IT'S. I HAVE AN ONGOING TUESDAY EVENING COMMITMENT, BUT. SO I JOINED A CHOIR THAT THE. YEAH. BREVARD COMMUNITY CHORUS REHEARSES TUESDAY EVENING. SO ODDLY, THEY HAVE THEY WON'T BE REHEARSING THE 11TH OF NOVEMBER BECAUSE IT'S VETERAN'S DAY, BUT THEY ARE OPEN ON THE 25TH. SO I'LL SEE IF I SEE IF I CAN GET THE MUSIC LEARNED WITHOUT WITHOUT THE REHEARSALS. NOT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT YOU, BECAUSE YOU'RE A VITAL PIECE OF THE BOARD. BUT, DEREK, DO YOU BELIEVE THAT WE WOULD HAVE QUORUM IN THAT SITUATION IF SHE WAS UNABLE TO MAKE THE BOARD MEETING? WE HAVE FIVE MEMBERS CURRENTLY. I DON'T THINK SO. I MAY NOT BE HERE. OH, OKAY. YEAH, I DON'T NEED YOU'D NEED FOUR MEMBERS. WE NEED AT LEAST FOUR TO MAKE QUORUM FOR SURE. THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO DATES. YEAH. YEAH, I YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M JUST GOING TO SAY I'LL BE THERE. I'LL BE HERE AT THE MEETING. YEAH. I DON'T. SO. OKAY. I BELIEVE IF WE WOULD LIKE TO RESCHEDULE, I WOULD NEED A MOTION TO RESCHEDULE. I SECOND THE MOTION TO RESCHEDULE IT TO THE DATE MENTIONED, WHICH IS THE TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 25TH. I THINK WE WOULD NEED A FIRST MOTION THOUGH. I KNOW YOU SECONDED. BUT YES. OKAY. OH, OKAY. YES. MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE IT TO THE NOVEMBER THE 25TH. TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 25TH. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. OKAY, WE HAVE A SECOND. MOVE IT TO A VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE AYE AYE AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAY NAY. I BELIEVE WE HAVE A UNANIMOUS VOTE ON THAT. SO WE WILL BE RESCHEDULING OUR NOVEMBER SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD MEETING TO TUESDAY, THE 25TH OF NOVEMBER. IS IT BECAUSE IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA. I'M LOOKING AT DECEMBER NOW, AND THE DECEMBER MEETING FOR US IS DECEMBER 23RD. I THINK WE MAY RUN INTO A SIMILAR SITUATION. I THINK WE HAVE A THE 24TH, BUT YES, SIMILAR SITUATION THAN CHRISTMAS EVE, [01:30:07] WHICH WOULD BE PROBLEMATIC. DO WE NEED TO PUT THAT ON NEXT MONTH'S AGENDA OR CAN WE HANDLE IT TODAY? DO WE HAVE DATES IDENTIFIED AS TO WHERE WE COULD RESCHEDULE IT? NOT AT THIS TIME, BUT THAT ONCE IT WAS BROUGHT TO ATTENTION, IT WE'RE GOING TO DO THE SAME THING. WE'RE GOING TO REACH OUT TO THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE, FIND OUT IF THERE'S ANY OTHER DATES WE CAN MOVE TO IN DECEMBER, AND WE'LL RECONVENE AT NOVEMBER'S MEETING WITH THAT. EXCELLENT. SO WE'LL LOOK TO RESCHEDULE DECEMBER'S MEETING AT THE NOVEMBER MEETING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I BELIEVE THAT CONCLUDES NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER THREE. I WILL ASK DEREK FOR SOME CLARIFICATION ON THIS ONE. IF WE ARE GOING TO FIT BOARD REPORTS INTO THE AGENDA, WOULD WE WANT TO DO THAT BEFORE OR AFTER OTHER BUSINESS? BEFORE ADJOURNMENT. IT REALLY COULD. IT COULD BE EITHER OR. HONESTLY, WHICHEVER YOU'D PREFER. BUT THEY THEY COULD COME. NEW BUSINESS OR OR OTHER BUSINESS, HOWEVER YOU'D PREFER IT. EXCELLENT. I BELIEVE I THINK IT WOULD PROBABLY WORK OUT BEST FOR US TO JUST DO BOARD REPORTS FIRST. UNDER UNDER OTHER BUSINESS AND MOVE THAT OR ADD THAT IN AS ITEM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE. WOULD I NEED A MOTION FOR THAT? OKAY. YES. SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADD BOARD REPORTS ONTO THE AGENDA FOR OTHER BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER ONE AND MOVE WHAT IS CURRENTLY OTHER BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER ONE DOWN TO TWO. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? WE HAVE A SECOND. GO AHEAD AND MOVE IT TO A VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY NAY. ALL RIGHT. I BELIEVE WE HAVE A UNANIMOUS DECISION ON THAT. SO THAT WILL BRING OTHER ITEM OR OTHER BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER ONE DOWN TO NUMBER TWO. THAT BRINGS US TO SAID BOARD REPORTS. SO WHO WOULD LIKE TO START OFF WITH THEIR BOARD REPORT FOR TODAY? I WILL. OKAY. BECAUSE IT'LL BE SHORT BECAUSE PART OF MY BOARD REPORT WAS THE MONOLITH. SO BUT WE ALSO WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE NATIVE GARDEN HERE. AND IF THERE'S BEEN ANY UPDATE ON THAT OR IF WE ARE STILL INVESTIGATING IT. YES. YES. WE'RE STILL RESEARCHING THE FUNDING TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE COME, WE HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION TO PROVIDE TO YOU. SO WE'LL REACH OUT TO THE LAST TEAM THAT WAS DEALING WITH IT. SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU ALL THE INFORMATION. BECAUSE I WAS ASKING DEREK BEFORE THE MEETING STARTED WHAT THE MOVE IN DATE IS FOR BUILDING E. IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO BE DIGGING UP THE AREA OVER THERE THAT THEY THOUGHT THEY WOULD BE DIGGING UP FOR FIBER OPTICS. SO THAT'S A PART OF THE QUESTION TOO, IS IS THAT AREA STILL READY AND AVAILABLE. SO WE HAVE TO TRY AND GET ALL THE INFORMATION. WAS PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION THAT APPROVED THE NATIVE GARDEN. SO NEW ADMINISTRATION NEW COUNCIL MEMBER, NEW CITY MANAGER WILL HAVE TO BRING IT BACK AND SEE WHAT THE YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY WOULD PROPOSE FOR YOU GUYS TO DO, YOU KNOW, IN THAT AREA. WELL, I MEAN, WE NEVER TOOK IT TO CITY COUNCIL. WE WE DID ALL OF THAT WITH THE CITY MANAGER. RIGHT, RIGHT. YES. SO THE CITY I SEE THERE WAS AN EMAIL THAT I SAW FROM PREVIOUS CITY MANAGER THAT APPROVED. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CONVERSATION WAS. SO THAT'S THE INFORMATION WE'RE TRYING TO REVIEW, TO RESEARCH, TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS AND THEN PRESENT IT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE YOU AWARE THAT ALL THE FIBER OPTIC CABLE THAT HAS BEEN ORDERED FROM IT IS STILL CURRENTLY BEING STORED IN MY YARD, SO I KNOW. DARN, THEY HAVEN'T INSTALLED IT YET, BUT THEY ARE PLANNING TO. OKAY, IT'S STILL IN IN OUR YARD SO THEY ARE DOING SOMETHING WITH IT. DARN, I THOUGHT THEY MIGHT HAVE FOUND IT. SOME FOUND ANOTHER SOLUTION. ALL RIGHT. THANKS, ERIC. AND I DID WANT TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE. I WAS ABLE TO TALK TO BRIAN, THE ASSISTANT DEPUTY MANAGER. REGARDING THE PLANTINGS GOING ON AT BUILDING E. HE SAID THAT UNFORTUNATELY, THERE IS NO TIME FRAME FOR WHEN EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE COMPLETED WITH PLANTINGS. BUT DID CONFIRM THAT THE NATIVE PLANTS THAT WERE SUGGESTED BY THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD WERE OFFICIALLY ADOPTED AS ALTERNATIVES AS OPTIONS OUT. AND SOME OF THOSE PLANTINGS SEEM TO HAVE ALREADY BEGUN. I WAS LOOKING AT BUILDING E WHEN WE WERE GOING BY TODAY, AND I SAW SOME ROYAL PALMS AND SOME SILVER BUTTONWOODS THAT WERE ALREADY PLANTED ALONGSIDE THE BUILDING. AND THAT'S THE OTHER OOPS, SORRY. THAT WAS THE OTHER PART OF MY BOARD REPORT IS THE BUILDING AND PLANTING PROGRESS. SO THEY HAD DONE A REPORT OUT LAST MONTH, WHICH WAS BASICALLY FOR THE NEW PARKING LOT OVER THERE. SHOULD I KEEP IN COMMUNICATION WITH MIKE, WHO'S GOING TO KEEP ASKING LSP HOW MUCH THEY'RE SUBBING OUT ELSEWHERE ON THEIR PLANS, [01:35:09] OR HOW WOULD I GET THAT INFORMATION? HOW WOULD WE GET THAT INFORMATION? SORRY, I SINCE YOU'VE BEEN TALKING TO MIKE ABOUT IT, I DON'T SEE I DON'T SEE WHY. I DON'T SEE A REASON TO STOP. IF HE'S ABLE TO GET YOU THAT INFORMATION. BECAUSE IDEALLY, WHEN WE CAN CAPTURE HOW MUCH OF THE TOTAL PLANTING IS NATIVE PLANTS, THAT HELPS US QUALIFY FOR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, SOME DESIGNATION, SOMETHING ON PTOLEMY'S HOMEGROWN PARK. SOMETHING YOU KNOW, THAT WE SHOULD BE TRACKING IT. TRACKING HOW MUCH IN TOTAL IS NATIVE, WHICH IT'S. I'M THINKING IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE OVER 50% THE WAY THEY'RE GOING. SO YEAH, THAT WOULD BE PRETTY COOL. OKAY, SO I WILL TAKE THAT ACTION TO KEEP IN COMMUNICATION WITH MIKE. AND HE CAN ASK LSP. YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I THINK THAT WAS IT FOR MY BOARD REPORT ON THE BUILDING E AT MR. MORTON'S LAST COFFEY. HE ANNOUNCED THAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT HAVING AN GRAND OPENING FOR BUILDING E IN NOVEMBER. SO I WANTED TO PUT ALL THAT ON OUR RADAR, BUT WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS A YEAR AGO, JANE, AND ALSO WHEN WE WERE TRYING TO DO OUR ACTION PLAN, I HAD COME UP WITH THE IDEA OF CELEBRATORY SIGNAGE, AND I THINK THIS IS THE MOMENT FOR IT. I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT OUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR THAT, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US START. AT LEAST GET A CONTRACTOR OR GET SOME ARTIST. SOMETHING THAT WE CAN USE THIS. CELEBRATORY SIGNAGE WITH BUILDING E, BUT WITH ALL THE PROJECTS WE'RE DOING WITH THE MONOLITH WITH AS A WAY, I THINK OF THAT MONOLITH. YOU KNOW, THEY'RE BUILDING THAT HUGE APARTMENT COMPLEX. AND EVERY TIME THOSE PEOPLE COME OUT, THEY'RE GOING TO SEE THE MONOLITH. YEAH. THEY MIGHT THEY COULD FUND SOME MONOLITH, IN MY OPINION. BUT THEY WOULD. THEY COULD FUND SOME MONOLITH. UPGRADE THAT APARTMENT COMPLEX. OH, YOU MEAN. BUT REMEMBER WHEN WE HAD THE BUILDING E ARCHITECT PRESENT TO US AND WE TALKED ABOUT THAT SIGNAGE? YES. AND HE SEEMED TO BE RECEPTIVE TO THE ARCHITECT DOING IT. OH, YEAH. AND SO HOW DO WE GO BACK ON THAT? WE CAN I FOLLOW UP WITH THEM WITH THAT PRESENTER? SURE. OKAY. I WILL JUST I'LL START THERE. WELL, YOU. THAT'S HOW IT STARTED BEFORE YOU JUST ASKED A SIMPLE QUESTION AND. YEAH, I MEAN, HE SEEMED EAGER TO TELL WHAT THE GOOD THINGS THEY'VE DONE, SO. YEAH, WE CAN DO THAT. WELL, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S GOING TO BE A GRAND OPENING. WOULD I ALSO NOT JUST THE NATIVE PLANTS, BUT LET'S THINK AS WELL. THERE ARE A LOT OF FEATURES. JUST WHAT HE PRESENTED. YEAH. YES. THAT BUT HOW ARE THEY HAVING A GRAND OPENING WITHOUT FIBER OPTICS? WELL, IT CAME UP AT THE COFFEY. AND WHAT IT WAS ACTUALLY PRESENTED BY MR. GAUME, WHO SAID BEFORE, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE SO MUCH TECHNOLOGY IN THERE AND SAFETY THINGS THAT THIS WOULD BE THE MOMENT TO HAVE PUBLIC. SEE THE BUILDING BEFORE THEY LOCK IT DOWN? YES. BASICALLY. THAT'S IT. AND MR. MORTON WAS SEEMED TO LIKE THE IDEA. ALL RIGHT, WELL, I'LL ASK THE ARCHITECT. YEAH, YOU MAY NOT BE. I'M ASSUMING HE KNOWS THEY'RE GOING TO LOCK IT DOWN AT SOME POINT. LOCK THE BUILDING UP. OH, I DON'T I DON'T KNOW. I'M JUST REPEATING. I HAVE NO DIRECT KNOWLEDGE. ALL RIGHT, I AM DONE. I WAS DONE. SORRY. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. SUSAN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO PRESENT NEXT? WELL, MY MY REPORT WAS I HAD TO MISS THE LAST MEETING, SO I. I DID WATCH THE ARCHIVE MINUTE, AND I'M VERY PROUD OF YOU ALL. THAT WAS ONE OF THE BEST MEETINGS. REBECCA, YOU DID A PHENOMENAL JOB LEADING US INTO THE UNKNOWN. TRUTHFULLY, INTO THE UNKNOWN. AND THE IDEA WAS PRESENTED ABOUT HAVING PEOPLE HAVE AREAS OF INTEREST. SO I THOUGHT, OKAY, WELL, WHAT'S LEFT? AND SO I BEGAN BY LOOKING AT MY CALENDAR FOR ONE MONTH [01:40:09] TO SEE FROM THE LAST SUSTAINABILITY BOARD MEETING I ATTENDED, WHICH WAS AUGUST 27TH. WHAT HAVE I DONE? AND I ATTENDED THREE PALM BAY CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS. I ATTENDED ONE PNC MEETING, ONE INFRASTRUCTURE MEETING TWO LEGISLATIVE DELEGATIONS, TWO COFFEES WITH THE CITY MANAGER, ONE PHASE TWO LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WITH THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER TO CONRADINA NATIVE PLANT SOCIETY MEETINGS. MR LAGOON HOUSE MONTHLY EVENT. IN ADDITION TO TALKING TO PEOPLE ABOUT THE VACANCIES HERE ON THE COUNCIL AND SOME WAY OF GETTING CITIZENS EXCITED ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING. SO WHAT I CONCLUDED WAS THIS I HAVE A VERY HIGH VISIBILITY IN PALM BAY. I HAVE A VERY STRONG VOICE. AND ALL THESE TOPICS ARE OF INTEREST TO ME. SO I HAVE A PROBLEM BECAUSE I LIKE TO GET OUT IN THE PUBLIC. I THINK THAT'S WHERE MY STRENGTH IS. I'D LIKE TO REPRESENT. I LIKE WEARING MY SHIRT. DEREK. I GO TO YOU. I LIKE BEING ABLE TO HAVE BE A CONVERSATION STARTER AND BRING PEOPLE AROUND TO JUST THINKING ABOUT LIVING SUSTAINABLY IN THEIR IN THEIR DAILY LIVES. SO I WANTED TO ASK THE BOARD HERE, HOW DO I USE ALL OF MY SKILLS IN A COLLABORATIVE MANNER WHILE UNDER THE FLORIDA SUNSHINE LAWS? I CAN'T QUITE FIGURE OUT BECAUSE I DRIVE FROM EACH OF YOU SO MUCH EXCITEMENT. IT'S YOU SPEAK, YOU SPEAK, YOU SPEAK, YOU SPEAK. AND IT'S LIKE I'M THE FIRST TO RAISE MY HAND. YEAH. SO IN ADDITION TO THAT. I DID IDENTIFY AN AREA OF INTEREST THAT I DON'T THINK ANYBODY ELSE HAS THOUGHT OF. AND THAT IS TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, CAN A GOVERNMENT BOARD SUCH AS THIS ONE OPERATE EFFICIENTLY AND EFFECTIVELY? SPECIFICALLY, HOW CAN THE PALM BAY SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD OPERATE EFFICIENTLY INTERNALLY SO WE CAN BE EFFECTIVE IN THE EXTERNAL COMMUNITY? IT'S A IT'S A TROUBLING QUESTION. AND IT WAS ONLY UP A COUPLE MONTHS AGO AT THE AUGUST 7TH CITY COUNCIL MEETING THAT THE ENTIRE COUNCIL WAS CALLING FOR THE DISSOLUTION OF THIS BOARD BECAUSE THE PUBLIC PERCEPTION, THEIR PERCEPTION IS THAT WE ARE NEITHER EFFICIENT NOR EFFECTIVE. AND HONESTLY, THERE IS SOME TRUTH TO THAT. I THINK SO. WHEN THAT CAME UP AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING YOU CAN IMAGINE I WAS PRETTY LOW. AND BECAUSE I COULD SEE A LOT OF THINGS THAT THIS BOARD COULD DO, AND I WAS DOING THEM AND IT WAS I JUST A BIG, HUGE THING. AND I'M SORRY, MR. MORTON IS NOT HERE. BECAUSE AT THAT MEETING, HE WROTE ME A LITTLE NOTE THAT I'VE KEPT, YOU KNOW, OUT OF THE CALENDAR HERE. AND HE HAD SOMEBODY DELIVER IT TO ME BECAUSE I WAS SITTING THERE IN THE AUDIENCE. AND WHAT HE SAID WAS, I'VE GOT SOME IDEAS TO MAKE TO MOVE PROJECTS FORWARD. WE CAN MEET AND SHARE. AND HE ACTUALLY WROTE ME A LETTER, AN EMAIL THREE DAYS LATER, AND HE SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO MEET WITH THE BOARD AND LET'S THINK THROUGH A RELEVANT PROJECT THAT MIGHT BE AN FIT CANDIDATE FOR A TRUE LEARNING LAB LEADING EDGE PROJECT. SO HE WAS THINKING IN A WAY THAT APPARENTLY THE FIT SCHOOL, THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE APPROACHING HIM. I KNOW THE DOCTOR, LAURA WILSON OF THE MRC COUNCIL PEOPLE ARE APPROACHING THE CITY WITH MONEY, [01:45:10] WITH OPPORTUNITIES TO PARTNER IN VARIOUS DIFFERENT WAYS. SO I AM INTERESTED. I AM INTERESTED IN ASKING THE QUESTION. IS IT EVEN POSSIBLE TO HAVE AN EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE GOVERNMENT BOARD UNDER THE SUNSHINE? I WANT TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION FOR ME, FOR OUR BOARD AND FOR EVERY BOARD THAT IS WORKING WITH THE PALM BAY. SO THAT MIGHT BE MY AREA OF INTEREST FOR RIGHT NOW. I WOULD ADD TO THAT, THAT ONE, WHAT YOU DO SO WELL, SUSAN, IS ATTEND ALL THESE MEETINGS, WHICH OH MY GOSH, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DO THAT, BUT ALSO PROVIDING INPUT TO THEM ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING. LIKE, IF YOU, IF YOU, IF WE WANTED YOU TO BE THE OFFICIAL LIAISON BACK AND FORTH TO CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE STAMINA TO ATTEND ALL THESE MEETINGS. AND PLANNING AND ZONING. I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S A PRETTY VALUABLE ROLE THAT I KNOW I CAN'T DO THAT. YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, AT THAT LIAISON IS SOMETHING TO THE PNC BOARD, PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD. THEY HAVE AN OFFICIAL SCHOOL EMPLOYEE STAFF THAT ATTENDS THOSE BOARDS FOR THE PURPOSE OF OFFERING INPUT IN, IN WHEN THERE IS A SCHOOL, WHEN THEY NEED DATA ON SCHOOL AVAILABILITY. AND SO MAYBE SOMETHING COULD BE WORKED OUT, MAYBE NOT IN QUITE THAT OFFICIAL CAPACITY, BUT SOME SORT OF CONVERSATION OR. I KNOW NO. DOUG'S BEEN SHOWING UP AT THE CITY COUNCIL AND DOING REPORTS. EVERY ONE OF THE BOARDS HAS A THREE MINUTE. AND MAYBE IF DEREK COULD HELP ME CRAFT SOME WORDS OR SOMETHING TO PRESENT, I WOULD BE A GREAT PERSON TO GO OUT AND ACKNOWLEDGE ALL OF YOU. ACKNOWLEDGE OUR MONOLITH PROJECT. MAYBE WE DON'T NEED PICTURES, DEREK. MAYBE WE JUST NEED ME. WELL, BECAUSE PART OF THE ISSUE WITH WITH THE CITY COUNCIL WAS WE'VE NEVER REPORTED TO THEM. I MEAN, WE'VE NEVER PROVIDED A REPORT. I KNOW WE REPORT TO THEM. NEVER. SO THAT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT DONE EITHER. WELL, I'M JUST SAYING THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING. WELL THEY DO. I'LL JUST ADD. YEAH, THE MOST THE MOST RECENT CITY COUNCIL MEETING. I PUT IN A PUBLIC COMMENT CARD EXPECTING TO SPEAK DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION AND THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION CAME AND WENT WITHOUT THEM CALLING MY NAME. AND SO I RAN UP TO THE DAIS AND TRIED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT HAPPENED WITH THAT. THEY ACTUALLY MOVED ME TO THE END OF THE MEETING, WHERE THE BOARD AND COUNCIL REPORTS ARE, AND ALLOWED ME TO DO MY PRESENTATION THERE. SO IF WE ARE ABLE TO KEEP A PRESENCE UP AT THE CITY COUNCIL LIKE THAT THEY HAVE ALREADY KIND OF SHIFTED TO MOVE US MORE INTO A MORE OFFICIAL CAPACITY. I'M NO LONGER A PUBLIC COMMENT. I'M NOW A BOARD SLASH COMMITTEE REPORT. SO HE HAS TO WAIT TO THE END OF THE MEETING. WHEN THE COUNCILMEN GIVE THEIR OWN REPORTS, HE GOES FIRST. IT'S A COMMITTEE REPORT. I BELIEVE THAT'S HOW IT WORKED. AT LEAST THAT'S HOW IT WORKED LAST WEEK. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GOING TO BE THE SAME KIND OF DEAL GOING FORWARD OR NOT, BUT I AT LEAST INTEND TO CONTINUE GOING TO CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS. I AM APPARENTLY A WEIRDO WHO FINDS THEM FUN. SO I HAVE NO PROBLEMS GOING THROUGH AND SITTING THROUGH ALL THE THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND REPORTING THERE AT THE END. THANK YOU. OKAY. WELL, I SAID I WOULD WORK ON A COMMUNITY OUTREACH. BUT I, I EXPLORED THE IDEA AT THE TURKEY CREEK SANCTUARY. I SPOKE WITH A RANGER THERE WHO SAID THAT, OF COURSE, THEY WOULD PUT OUT ANY PAMPHLET WE PREPARED. BUT THEN I THOUGHT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT AUTONOMY I HAVE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF. YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE CITY TO GET APPROVED, A MESSAGE OR A PAMPHLET ON SUSTAINABILITY ACTIVITIES IN PALM BAY AS A PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT, A PRESS. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT IS HANDLED. [01:50:04] THEN SO ALL THE PRESS RELEASES ARE DONE THROUGH THE COMMUNICATIONS OFFICE, SO I WOULD HAVE TO GET WITH THE PIO TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY, ANY WAY TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AGAIN, ANY TIME THAT WE TRIED TO DO THIS IN THE PAST, IT WAS PRETTY MUCH PUT BACK ON THE. THE SOLE EFFORTS OF THE BOARD DOING IT. HOW YOU WOULD GO ABOUT DOING IT? I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE I BEGIN. I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE TO BEGIN WITH THAT. BUT LET ME ASK SOME QUESTIONS AND I'LL GET BACK TO YOU ABOUT IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO IN JUST KIND OF TO CLARIFY, LIKE TURKEY CREEK, THEY HAVE A LOT OF PAMPHLETS FROM DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS ENVIRONMENTALLY, YOU KNOW, THE EELS PROGRAM, THE MASTER NATURALS PROGRAM, OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT. SO I WAS CONSIDERING A JUST A TRIFOLD, EIGHT AND A HALF BY 11 TRIFOLD OF THE PALM BAY SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD AND ACTIVITIES AND ONGOING. MEETINGS JUST WHEN AND WHERE AND HOW TO PARTICIPATE. OKAY. YEAH, LET ME LOOK INTO IT, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE'VE TOUCHED BASE WITH TURKEY CREEK ABOUT CERTAIN THINGS RELATING TO SUSTAINABILITY ON THE END OF STORMWATER AND THINGS PUBLIC WORKS ARE DOING LID WHATNOT. SO WE'VE REACHED OUT TO THEM TO LET ME FIND OUT FOR YOU IN A MORE OFFICIAL CAPACITY WHAT CAN BE DONE. AND I'LL GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT. OKAY? YEAH. OH. MAY I JUST INTERJECT SOMETHING? YOU'RE MAKING ME THINK OF THAT. REBECCA. I WANTED TO TALK TO. AND. JANE. YOU DIDN'T MENTION THIS, DID YOU? YEAH, THAT WOULD BE O UNDER UPCOMING MEETINGS. YEAH. INTEREST? YEAH. I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE LID. SO. GOOD. HOP OVER ME. YEAH. KIND OF. TO PIGGYBACK OFF WHAT SHE WAS ASKING, THIS MIGHT BE A QUESTION FOR FUTURE, WHETHER OR NOT IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD HAS TO PRESENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL OR WHATNOT. IT'S BEEN MENTIONED A COUPLE OF TIMES NOW THROUGHOUT THIS MEETING AND LAST MEETING ABOUT THINGS THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO, SUCH AS BOMBAY SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD SHIRTS POP UP TENTS, BEING ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN ITEMS LIKE THAT. IS THAT SOMETHING WHERE WE WOULD HAVE TO TRY TO BUILD A PROPOSAL FOR A SMALL, MEASLY BUDGET FOR THE PALM BAY SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD. OR WOULD WE WANT TO PARTNER WITH THE PIO ABOUT THAT KIND OF STUFF? YOU WOULDN'T PARTNER WITH THE PIO. THAT WOULD DEFINITELY HAVE TO COME FROM COUNCIL. I KNOW IN THE PAST THE CITY, THE PREVIOUS CITY MANAGER HAD A VERY SMALL BUDGET, WHICH IS WHERE SUSAN GOT HER SHIRT, AND REBECCA JANE, THEY GOT THEIR SHIRTS. AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THERE IS NO BUDGET FOR THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD, SO THAT CHANGE WOULD HAVE TO BE GIVEN BY COUNCIL. BUT YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. I MEAN, CREATE A CREATE A BUDGET, SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN TAKE THERE. THERE'S NOTHING STOPPING YOU. THERE'S NO REGULATION SAYING THAT YOU CAN'T. IT'S JUST NOT A GUARANTEE. BUT BY ALL MEANS. YEAH. PLEASE. EXCELLENT. BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT KIND OF PASSED US BY ON THE BOARD AND DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE IT UNTIL LAST WEEK, WHICH WAS WAY TOO LATE. THERE WAS A INDIAN RIVER LAGOON DAY AN EARLIER LAGOON DAY. THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A PERFECT SITUATION FOR THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD TO HAVE A PRESENCE THERE. BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE SHIRTS AND WE DON'T HAVE A TENT AND WE DON'T HAVE A TABLE. HOW DO WE HAVE A PRESENCE? WE CAN JUST MULL AROUND AND HOPE PEOPLE DECIDE TO CONTACT US. KIND OF DEAL. AND AS AS LONG AS ALL OF YOU CAN ATTEND OR I MAY EVEN HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK ON THE MAJORITY, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT SUSAN AND REBECCA HAD GONE OUT TO THE NATIONAL NIGHT OUT AND REPRESENTED THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD AS JUST TWO. AS LONG AS THERE'S NO BUSINESS OF THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD BEING CONDUCTED, YOU'RE JUST PROMOTING SUSTAINABILITY. EVEN IF IT'S NOT ALL OF YOU, BUT YOU CAN STILL GO AND REPRESENT THE BOARD AT FUNCTIONS THAT YOU HEAR OF. SO IF YOU WANT TO REGISTER FOR THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON DAY AND JUST SAY, HEY, I'M DOUG HOOK WITH, YOU KNOW, SUSTAINABILITY. YOU KNOW, WE DO SUSTAINABILITY IN PALM BAY. HERE'S WHAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE. YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO DO THAT. AGAIN, IT'S JUST THE QUESTION OF IS BUSINESS BEING VIOLATED UNDER SUNSHINE LAW AND MISREPRESENTED THINGS OF THAT NATURE. BUT DON'T EVER. I WOULDN'T LET ANY OF THAT STUFF. I MEAN, WE HAVE EVENTS AND I'LL TOUCH ON THAT WHEN WE GET TO IT IN UPCOMING MEETINGS AND EVENTS, BUT WE HAVE EVENTS THAT WILL PASS ON TO YOU. IF WE'RE TAKING PART IN IT, PUBLIC WORKS, YOU KNOW, OFTENTIMES I'LL HAND IT OFF TO YOU GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO JUMP IN. BUT YOU, AS THE BOARD CAN LOOK FOR THOSE EVENTS YOURSELF AND ALWAYS GO OUT AND DO THAT. EXCELLENT. YEAH. THANK YOU. COULD WE BUY OUR OWN SHIRTS? YES, I BELIEVE SO. EVEN IF WE'RE USING THE CITY LOGO, THAT'S THE PART THAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT. LET ME FIND OUT WHAT KIND OF STIPULATIONS THERE ARE WITH THAT. BUT AS FAR AS YOU HANDLING THE FINANCES, I DON'T SEE WHY NOT. BUT LET ME FIND OUT ABOUT THE THE USE OF THE LOGO. THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY THING PLEASE DO. AND IF YOU COULD LET US KNOW BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING. SURE. BECAUSE I WANT DOUG AND EILEEN TO HAVE SHIRTS AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO PURCHASE THEM. [01:55:12] THAT MIGHT BE CONFLICTING, BUT I'M NOT SURE. I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT WOULD WORK. OH WELL, WHAT IF A CITIZEN OUT IN THE AUDIENCE GAVE MONEY? I AM NOT ENTIRELY CERTAIN. THIS IS MY FIRST DAY. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNEW THAT OR NOT. YOU'VE HEARD THAT SAYING, DEREK. WHERE THERE'S A WILL, THERE'S A WAY, AND YOU ARE THE WILL, AND YOU ARE THE WASTE. 100%. I THINK YOU'RE THE WAIT. I WILL FIND OUT ABOUT THAT. IT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION. I'LL GET BACK TO YOU. BUT AT LEAST EVEN A NAME TAG A VERY. YEAH, I'M VERY FOND OF MY SHIRTS, SO I DON'T MIND WEARING THESE ON A REGULAR BASIS, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO BE IDENTIFIED AS A PALM BAY SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD MEMBER WITHOUT JUST SAYING, HEY, HEY, SHE JUST BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT. YOU COULD MAYBE EVEN DO NAME TAGS AND JUST, YOU KNOW, DOUGLAS HOOK, PALM BAY SUSTAINABILITY BOARD. YOU'RE NOT USING THE CITY LOGO, BUT YOU ARE IDENTIFYING YOURSELF AS AN SAB MEMBER FOR PALM BAY. THAT MIGHT EVEN BE A ROUTE TO AND PROBABLY A MORE CHEAPER OPTION. I'M SURE THERE'S PLENTY OF PLACES, AMAZON OR PEOPLE LOCAL THAT YOU CAN GET THOSE NAME TAGS MADE UP. SO THAT MIGHT EVEN BE AN OPTION AS WELL, BUT I'LL FIND OUT AND GET BACK TO YOU AS SOON AS I GET THAT ANSWER. WELL, I'M TOTALLY WANTING THE SHIRT, YOU KNOW THAT. AND I'LL TAKE THE NAME TAG TOO, BUT YEAH, BUT I'M READY. YES. GO AHEAD. I WANT TO NOMINATE SUSAN AS AMBASSADOR OF THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD. I ALREADY I ALREADY APPOINTED HER PALM BAY'S AMBASSADOR. BUT BEFORE I START, I HAVE ONE REQUEST. CAN WE GET MINUTES ON THESE MEETINGS? YOU CAN. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FORGIVE ME. I'M NOT VERY. I'M NOT AT ALL A GOOD REPLACEMENT FOR JESSIE. YES. JESSIE IS THE SHE DEFINITELY IS DOING IT A LOT BETTER THAN I COULD EVER DO. I MAY HAVE TO FIND OUT HOW THE MINUTES PROCESS. I'M KIND OF LIKE DOUG IN THIS SCENARIO. I'M KIND OF JUST. THIS IS MY SECOND SUSTAINABILITY MEETING AS THE SECRETARY OR THE ADMIN. SO I WILL HAVE TO FIND OUT ABOUT THAT, VERY LEAST IF WE HAVE A PROCEDURAL MOTION. YEAH. SO THAT PEOPLE WHO AREN'T HERE KNOW WHAT IT IS WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO AND MAKE SURE THOSE THINGS GET ON. YEAH. BECAUSE IF YOU'D ASKED ME THE FIRST THE LAST SUSTAINABILITY MEETING, I WOULDN'T HAVE KNOWN WHAT MINUTES WERE. I KNOW I'VE HEARD ABOUT THEM SINCE I'M LEARNING ABOUT IT, BUT I MAY IN THE BY THE NEXT MEETING HAVE TO HAVE THAT READY FOR YOU GUYS. YES, ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. THE REPORT I WAS PREPARING WAS ON PHYTOREMEDIATION, AND I WANTED TO FOCUS TODAY ON THE AIR, BUT JUST TO DEFINE IT, PHYTOREMEDIATION ARE PLANTS RESEARCH TO CLEAN THE AIR, SOIL AND WATER OF CONTAMINANTS. IT'S AN ENVIRONMENTAL CLEANUP TECHNIQUE THAT USES PLANTS TO REMOVE, DETOXIFY, AND IMMOBILIZE CONTAMINANTS. THE METHOD LEVERAGES THE NATURAL PROCESSES OF PLANTS AND THEIR ASSOCIATED MICROORGANISMS TO ADDRESS POLLUTANTS IN A COST EFFECTIVE AND SUSTAINABLE WAY. THE FOLLOWING DATABASE. WELL, FORGET THE DATABASE. I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO THAT. THERE IS A DATABASE AND IT'S USED BY THE EPA, LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE AND ENGINEERING FIRMS AND GOVERNMENT AGENCIES FOR THIS PURPOSE. PHYTOREMEDIATION USES PLANTS TO CLEAN THE AIR, SOIL AND WATER CONTAMINANTS AS ACCUMULATORS, PHOTO ACCUMULATORS, HYPERACCUMULATORS WHICH IS BASICALLY IT PULLS THESE THINGS OUT OF THE AIR OR IN THE WATER OR WHATEVER THEY ATTRACT. PHOTO PHOTODEGRADATION. HOW TO PREVENT EROSION? PHYTOEXTRACTION HOW TO JUST GET IT OUT? AN ACCUMULATOR ABSORBS IT INTO ITSELF AND DOESN'T RELEASE IT. AN EXTRACTION. YOU KNOW, THE EXTRACTION JUST PULLS IT OUT, AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT GOES, BUT THE PHYTOSTABILIZATION, IT HAS TO DO WITH EROSION, PRECIPITATORS AND TOLERANCE. I WANTED TO FOCUS TODAY ON THE AIRBORNE INFECTIONS AND VIRUS VIRUSES THAT THESE PLANTS CAN ELIMINATE. HOPEFULLY, THERE'S A WOMAN, STEVIE FORMULARY. SHE HAS THE FORMULARY THEORY. AND THERE ARE PLANTS RESEARCHED TO REDUCE THE INFECTIOUSNESS OF THE AIRBORNE FLU VIRUS. I THINK I SAID BEFORE, THERE'S OVER 440 PLANTS THAT HAVE SPECIFIC PURPOSES AND THEY IMPROVE OUR ENVIRONMENT. [02:00:08] AND HAVING THOSE, WE COULD PROBABLY WIND UP SAVING A FORTUNE IN POISONS AND CHEMICALS. AND SINCE BREVARD COUNTY HAS 880 TOXINS IN OUR WATER, WE NEED IT. THERE'S A REASON PEOPLE ARE GETTING SICK. AND IT'S VERY HARD TO PULL THEM OUT WITH A WATER FILTER. THE PLANTS IDENTIFIED IN THE DATABASE ARE LIKELY EFFECTIVE FOR FLU VIRUS ACCUMULATION AND REDUCTION OF INFECTIOUSNESS. THEY HAVE MULTIPLE STOMATA ON THE LEAVES OF ON THE LEAVES FOR TRANSPIRATION, AS WELL AS TOLERANCE AND ACCUMULATION OF AIRBORNE VIRUSES. THIS RESEARCH ALSO LOOKS AT THE QUANTITY AND SPECIFIC TYPE OF PLANTS, AS WELL AS AN ELECTRON, AS ELECTRONIC SOURCES SUCH AS HUMIDIFIERS AND WATER FEATURES SORT OF COMPLEMENTING WHAT THE PLANTS DO NEEDED TO PRODUCE EFFECTIVE HUMIDITY FOR THE PLANTS TO DECREASE THE SURVIVAL OR TRANSMISSION OF VIRUSES. FURTHER ELEMENTS INCLUDE CREATING EFFECTIVE DISTANCES OF PEOPLE TO PLANTS, LIGHT, WATER, SOIL AND TEMPERATURES. SO, LIKE ON THE MONOLITH WHERE YOU PUT THOSE LIGHTS, IT'S GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. ONE CAVEAT ON THAT MONOLITH, THOUGH. THERE ARE A LOT OF PALM TREES LEADING UP TO IT. IF THE PLANTS ARE NOT HIGH ENOUGH, YOU WON'T SEE THEM AND THEY WILL DIE. THAT'S WHY I WENT WITH THE TREES, BECAUSE THEY'LL GROW AND AND YOU'LL SEE THEM. BUT ANYWAY, I KNOW YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT. THAT'S IT FOR ME. THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE MUCH THAT I'M GOING TO SAY ON MY REPORT, BECAUSE I HAVE DONE A LOT OF TALKING ALREADY TODAY. FOR YOU. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DID WANT TO BRING UP IN MY REPORT REAL QUICKLY, IS NEMO GARDENS. I SPOKE WITH COUNCILMAN HAMER VERY BRIEFLY ABOUT NEMO GARDENS. I BELIEVE THAT IS A PROJECT THAT IS GOING TO BE ANOTHER THING THAT WE WILL WANT TO LOOK AT IN THE FUTURE. IT IS CITY OWNED LAND. IT IS HIGHLY OVERGROWN WITH INVASIVES. AND I THINK IT COULD BE A GOOD STARTING POINT FOR COMMUNITY, FOR COMMUNITY PARKS AND LITTLE POP UP PARKS WITHIN AREAS. I KNOW I HAVE LOOKED INTO IT A BIT MYSELF, AND THERE'S ALREADY LIKE A FACEBOOK PAGE SET UP FOR IT AND EVERYTHING. SO THE CITIZENS ARE READY TO ACTIVATE ON THEIR OWN. WE JUST HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO GET CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL. IT MAY BE A SITUATION WHERE WE NEED TO BRING PARKS IN ON THERE. IT IS CITY OWNED LAND. BUT I BELIEVE THESE COMMUNITY PARKS ARE GOING TO BE A GOOD THING FOR US AS A SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD TO TRY TO PUSH FORWARD IN THE FUTURE. I HAVE MY EYEBALL ON A COUPLE OF PIECES OF CITY LAND IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO TURN INTO COMMUNITY PARK. SO USING NEMO GARDENS BECAUSE THEY ARE FARTHER ALONG AND ARE ALREADY PARTIALLY COORDINATED AND EVERYTHING, I BELIEVE THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD WAY FOR US TO LOOK INTO AVENUES WITH THAT. ESPECIALLY SINCE WE ALREADY HAVE COUNCILMAN HAMMER'S ATTENTION ON NEMO GARDENS. I WOULD JUST ASK THAT WE BRING PARKS AND REC INTO THAT BECAUSE ERIC IN PARTICULAR, BEFORE THEY'VE ALREADY SURVEYED THAT GARDEN FOR HOW MANY TORTOISES ARE THERE? AND THEY HAD TRACY OUT THERE FROM THE RANGER. SO THERE'S BEEN SOME WORK ALREADY DONE ON WHAT COULD OR COULD NOT HAPPEN THERE. SO WE PROBABLY JUST WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT. EXCELLENT. AND ONE OF THE OTHER RESOURCES THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO LEAN ON IN THE FUTURE IS PART OF MY MASTER NATURALIST CLASSES. MY TEACHER FOR MASTER NATURALIST ACTUALLY GOT ME IN TOUCH WITH THE GOPHER TORTOISE EXPERT WHO WORKS AT TURKEY CREEK. AND HE I'VE REACHED OUT TO HIM, AND HE HAS ALSO SAID THAT HE WOULD BE WILLING TO ASSIST IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORMS AND IDENTIFYING WAYS TO MITIGATE ANY POTENTIAL DISTURBANCES FOR GOPHER TORTOISES. THE COUNCILMAN HAMMER GOES OUT THERE HIMSELF AND DOES WORK, AND HE'S VERY MOTIVATED. AND I KNOW THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT ABOUT A YEAR AGO WENT AND CLEANED IT UP AND THERE WAS A WELL OR SOMETHING. I THINK SOME OF THAT WAS CAPPED. YEAH, I'VE BEEN TOLD THOUGH, THERE ARE PEPPER TREES GROWING IN THERE AND THERE'S PEPPER TREES EVERYWHERE, SO I'D LOVE TO GET OUT THERE AND DO SOME INVASIVE REMOVALS. I SPENT SOME TIME THIS PAST WEEK, MANY, MANY HOURS ACTUALLY REMOVING THE BRAZILIAN PEPPER FROM THE FPL OR THE UTILITY RIGHT OF WAY IN BACK OF [02:05:04] MY PROPERTY IS WHEN I CALLED FPL ABOUT IT, THEY SAID, WELL, THAT'S NOT GOING TO BORROW. WE DON'T REMOVE ANYTHING AND WE WOULD CUT IT BACK, BUT IT'S NOT IN ANY DANGER OF HITTING THE POWER LINES. SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO TOUCH THAT. AND I WAS THINKING IT'S GOING TO PROLIFERATE. SO THE GOOD NEWS ABOUT IT WAS A LOT OF BRUISES. BUT WE UNCOVERED SOME BEAUTIFUL NATIVES, SOME CACTUSES AND SOME SURPRISES IN THERE OF OF ROUGE BERRY PLANT AND SOME OTHER THINGS THAT MIGHT HAVE COME FROM MY YARD WITHOUT MY KNOWING, WITHOUT MY HAVING VOLUNTEERED THEM, LIKE MOST OF MY ROUGE BERRY DIED OUT. SO I WENT BACK THERE AND I SAID, WHAT? WHAT'S THIS? BUT IT WAS NICE. IT WAS NICE. BUT HARD WORK. SO, YEAH, I'D BE WILLING TO DO IT AT NEBO GARDENS, TOO. EXCELLENT. YEAH. I THINK MY IDEA IS HOW TO HOW DO WE FIND A WAY FORWARD AS A SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD TO ACTIVATE THESE SPACES? HOW CAN WE? I THINK THAT WOULD INCREASE COMMUNITY PARTICIPATION IN OUR BOARD MEETINGS AS WELL. IF WE ARE ABLE TO FIND A METHOD FORWARD TO WHERE WE CAN SAY, HEY, IF YOU CAN IDENTIFY CITY OWNED LAND THAT IS NOT BEING UTILIZED, THAT IS CODED FOR OR SET IN A CERTAIN PLANNING AND ZONING SITUATION. HOW CAN WE UTILIZE THAT UNUSED SPACE, CAN TURN IT INTO A COMMUNITY GARDEN, AND EVENTUALLY GET THE COMMUNITY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AROUND IT WORKING ON THEIR I DON'T KNOW HOW TO GO ABOUT THAT AT THIS POINT. BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO ALL KIND OF THINK ABOUT AND SEE WHAT WAYS PATHS FORWARD WE COULD DO ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU FROM MY EXPERIENCE BEFORE I GOT ON THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD. LIKE I SAID, I'VE IDENTIFIED A PLOT OF LAND AT THE END OF MY DRIVE OR MY STREET THAT IS HIGHLY OVERGROWN WETLANDS. IT'S ACTUALLY A MIXED USE SPACE TO WHERE THERE IS WETLANDS AND UPLANDS IN IT. I THINK IT WOULD BE A GREAT RESTORATION PROJECT AND AMONGST ITSELF. AND I KIND OF THREW MYSELF AT IT FOR MONTHS AND GOT ABSOLUTELY NOWHERE WITH IT. AND THEY EVENTUALLY SAID, PRESENTED THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD, AND I DIDN'T KNOW HOW OR WHY TO DO THAT. SO IF THERE ARE OTHER CITIZENS OUT THERE CURRENTLY IN THAT PROCESS THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO FIND WAYS TO ASSIST WITH, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT I WAS KIND OF LEFT STRAGGLING AND HANGING BY MYSELF, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE HOW TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A COMMUNITY PROJECT LIKE THAT. CHAIRPERSON. HULK. YES. I'D JUST LIKE TO REMIND THE BOARD WE DO HAVE THE CHAMBERS RESERVED UNTIL 8 P.M., SO WE DO NEED TO KEEP IT MOVING. OKAY, EXCELLENT. OH THEN IN THAT CASE, I WILL FINISH MY CONCLUDE MY BOARD REPORT. THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS OTHER BUSINESS NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS UPCOMING MEETINGS. [OTHER BUSINESS] INTEREST ARE EVENTS OF INTEREST. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUICK THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SHARE? I'M GOING TO SHARE ABOUT THE I'M GOING TO SHARE ABOUT THE NATIVE PLANT TOUR COMING UP ON NOVEMBER 9TH, I THINK I DID. I HAND OUT THESE FLIERS LAST TIME, I THINK I DID. OH, NO. OKAY, WE'LL JUST TAKE A COUPLE OF TAKE. FEEL FREE TO TAKE SOME OF THESE TO PASS OUT. OKAY. I MEAN, PASS THEM DOWN. YOU DON'T GET ALL OF THEM. AND I REALLY ENCOURAGE, ESPECIALLY THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD TO COME OUT TO IT. I KNOW LYDIA TRIED TO GIVE A COUPLE TICKETS TO THE CITY MANAGER, BUT HE COULDN'T ACCEPT THEM BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, HE CAN'T ACCEPT FREE TICKETS. BUT IF ANYBODY KNOWS ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO BUY TICKETS, THIS LITTLE QR CODE IS THE WAY TO GO. SO I HOPE EVERYBODY CAN COME OUT. AND I HAVE PURCHASED TWO EXTRA TICKETS THAT I AM EAGER TO GIVE FIRST TO MY FELLOW SUSTAINABILITY BOARD PEOPLE. IF YOU DON'T HAVE A TICKET AND WILL GO, I HAVE ONE. AND WHAT TO THE FIRST ONE DOWN LANDSCAPING NOVEMBER THE 9TH. EILEEN, IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN AT IT, IT'S IT'S WONDERFUL. IT'S YOU LEARN IN PALM BAY THIS YEAR AND YOU GET A FREE PLANT AT THE END AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE ARTISTS, AND IT'S JUST SO, SO GREAT, SO GREAT. I WILL NOT NEED A TICKET BECAUSE I AM VOLUNTEERING FOR IT. SO I WILL BE OUT SATURDAY AND SUNDAY. SO IF YOU WANT TO HEAR ME TALK MORE, AS IF I'M NOT TALKING ENOUGH ALREADY I WILL BE TALKING NATIVE PLANTS AT ONE OF THE STOPS ALONG THE TOUR. WOULD YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE IDEA I WAS GOING TO LIKE TO DO THAT, I DID I KNOW I DON'T WANT TO LOOK AT THE CLOCK TOO FAST. THE MRC LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT IS COMING. AND AGAIN I KNOW I'M SIGNED UP. JANE, YOU'RE SIGNED UP. I'M NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO. OH. YOU CAN'T. YEAH. REBECCA. AND TOO MUCH TIME OUT OF WORK. EILEEN, ARE ANY OF YOU. [02:10:04] I WISH I COULD. I CAN'T AFFORD IT. OH. WELL I KNOW. OKAY, SO THE LID, IT'S GOING TO HAVE BIOCHAR APPLICATIONS ON THEIR BIOSWALES FLOATING WETLANDS, 3D LIVING SEAWALLS. THE KIMBERLY HAGLER, WHO IS THE GROWTH DEPARTMENT'S MANAGER, I THINK. OH, LAND DEVELOPMENT MANAGER IS GOING TO HAVE. SHE IS A KEYNOTE AT THE DAY ONE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MORNING. PALM BAY GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE PLANNING. ISN'T THAT A HOT TOPIC? DEREK, ARE YOU GOING? DID YOU SAY YOU WERE GOING? YEAH, I'M ACTUALLY GOING. YEAH. KIM HAGLER ASKED PUBLIC WORKS TO PRESENT WITH HER. SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE A PORTION OF THAT PRESENTATION WHERE I WILL BE PRESENTING. THE GRANTS MANAGER WILL BE SPEAKING ON FUNDING THINGS OF THAT NATURE. AWESOME. OH MY GOSH. I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO GO TO THIS. THERE'S SOMETHING FOR EVERYONE THERE. THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WAS ALSO THAT'S GOING TO BE THERE IS ADAM KLINGBERG AND BRAD FOUNTAIN. THEY OWN THE FLORIDA CUSTOM AQUATICS. AND IN YOUR MEETING REBECCA, YOU HAD IT RIGHT. THEY HAVE PRESENTED HERE BEFORE, BUT THEY HAVE GROWN SINCE THEY'VE PRESENTED, AND THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A WHOLE VISION SYSTEM FOR COMMERCIALS AND MUNICIPALITIES. I'LL GET INTO THAT AT ANOTHER TIME. BUT THEY'RE ONE OF THE NOT PRESENTERS, BUT ONE OF THE SPONSORS THERE. SO ONE LAST THING. I WAS OUT DOING MY THING TODAY, AND I SAW THIS SIGN RECYCLE FLORIDA TODAY. THEY ACTUALLY HAVE MADE A LICENSE PLATE ON RECYCLING THAT YOU CAN PURCHASE. THEY HAVE GRANTS. HERE WE GO. DOUG. FOR RECYCLING, WASTE REDUCTION, COMPOSTING REDUCTION OF FOOD WASTE. SO YOU BUY THE LICENSE PLATE AND HOW DO WE GET THE MONEY? DOES ANYBODY KNOW HOW WE GET THE MONEY. YOU'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO APPLY FOR A GRANT. OUR GRANT? DOES THE PALM BAY GRANTS PERSON KNOW ABOUT IT? NOT THAT IT'S BEEN MENTIONED. I CAN TRY TO FOLLOW UP AND FIND OUT. JUST COME OUT. SO I WANT TO. THE GRANT SOUNDS ABOUT RIGHT, THOUGH, THAT THAT SEEMS TO BE THE COMMON PLACE FOR MOST THINGS LIKE THIS. YEAH. WOULDN'T THAT BE GREAT? MAYBE THAT COULD FUND US A FEW T SHIRTS. OKAY. REAL QUICKLY, I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THE MARINE RESOURCE COUNCIL'S FIRST FRIDAY CLEANUP, WHICH IS GOING TO BE HAPPENING FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 7TH. IF YOU CHECK OUT THEIR WEBSITE. THEY ARE GOING TO BE DOING SOME CLEANUPS ALONG THE RIVER TO HELP MAKE IT NICE AND PRETTY. ARE THERE ANY OTHER EVENTS THAT WOULD LIKE TO BE COMMUNICATED OUT? NOPE. ALL RIGHT. I BELIEVE THAT FINISHES UP EVERYTHING UP. SO I WILL CALL THIS. MEETING ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.