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OKAY. THE TIME IS 6:00 ON JANUARY 26TH, AND I'M CALLING THE 2026-01 MEETING OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE ADVISORY AND OVERSIGHT BOARD TO ORDER. I DON'T HAVE A GAVEL, SO.
ADOPTION OF MINUTES. OH. EXCUSE ME. ROLL CALL.
JOSE AGUILAR, PRESIDENT LESLIE ROACH. THOMAS GAUME PRESENT.
JIMMY BACKUS PRESENT. CHAD STOREY PRESENT. SO WE HAVE TWO AVAILABLE SEATS. SO MR. ROACH IS JUST ABSENT TODAY, AND THEN WE HAVE ONE VACANCY.
ONE VACANCY. OKAY. AND ANY IDEAS AT AN AT LARGE SEAT OR WHO WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER? ACTUALLY I APOLOGIZE, WE DO HAVE TWO VACANCIES, SO ONE VACANCY IS UNDER.
LOOKS LIKE MIKE HAMMER. THE OTHER ONE IS UNDER KENNY JOHNSON.
OKAY. THANK YOU. ADOPTION OF MINUTES. MOTION TO APPROVE MINUTES.
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YES, I. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED? MINUTES ARE APPROVED.PUBLIC COMMENTS. MR. BATTEN, YOU DROVE DOWN HERE AND YOU DON'T WANT TO SAY ANYTHING.
WHY ARE YOU GOING TO ADDRESS IT UNDER THE AGENDA? OKAY. VERY WELL, SIR. NEW BUSINESS SIDEWALK PROGRAM DISCUSSION.
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MISS SULLIVAN. THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN. WE WERE ASKED TO PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA TO DISCUSS A SIDEWALK PROGRAM. WE DO NOT. CITY OF PALM BAY PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT DOES NOT CURRENTLY HAVE WHAT YOU WOULD CALL A SIDEWALK PROGRAM.WE HAD PARTICIPATED IN APPLYING FOR SEVERAL GRANTS WITH CDBG OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS.
THE. THE THE MAKEUP OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS, WHICH WE WERE DESIGNING SIDEWALKS IN CHANGED BEFORE WE WERE ABLE TO ACTUALLY FINALIZE THE GRANTS SO THEY WERE NO LONGER UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES, AND WE WERE NO LONGER QUALIFIED FOR THOSE GRANTS FOR THOSE AREAS.
WE DO HAVE SOME SIDEWALKS IN EITHER PARTIAL OR COMPLETE DESIGN A SMALL AREA NEIGHBORHOOD, SIDEWALKS GOING TO AND FROM PARKS, MOSTLY. I, I WOULD LIKE TO LET YOU KNOW THAT CURRENTLY, WE ARE ANTICIPATING A GRANT FOR A SIDEWALK ON EMERSON NORTHWEST FROM MALABAR TO FOR ROUND FOR ROUNDNESS.
MALABAR TO CULVER. THAT'S NOT THE EXACT TERMINUS, BUT IT'S CLOSE.
THAT SIDEWALK WILL INCLUDE A HAWK SYSTEM WHICH IS BASICALLY A I'M SURE YOU'VE SEEN IT ON 192.
THERE THERE ARE MULTIPLE HAWK SYSTEMS ON ON THE NEW 192 THAT THEY JUST CONSTRUCTED, AND IT'S AND IT'S MEANT TO PROVIDE SAFETY TO PEDESTRIANS AND CYCLISTS. THAT PROJECT IS ALMOST COMPLETELY DESIGNED, AND WE ARE ANTICIPATING A GRANT WITHIN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.
IT HAS BEEN APPROVED. IT JUST HASN'T BEEN FINALIZED YET.
WE ALSO ARE APPLYING FOR A GRANT WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF THE SPACE COAST TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATION, FOR SIDEWALKS THAT WILL BENEFIT STUDENTS OF OF THE OF THE SCHOOLS OVER ON DEGROOT.
I'M SORRY, I DON'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
AND THOSE LOCATIONS WERE DETERMINED WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF AN OUTSIDE ENGINEER, ENGINEERING CONSULTANT, KITTLESON WORKING WITH THE SPACE COAST TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATION.
AND THAT'S GOING TO BE APPLIED FOR WITH THE SAME GRANT FUNDING SOURCE AS WE HAVE WITH EMERSON, WHICH IS THE SAFE. SAFE. STREETS AND ROADS FOR ALL.
SAFE. SAFE ROADS FOR ALL, I BELIEVE, IS WHAT IT'S CALLED.
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WE DON'T HAVE THE FINALIZED DESIGN ON THAT. WE HAVE A CONCEPTUAL DESIGN.DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHERS? WE DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING SIDEWALKS? OKAY. I HAD JUST NOT ABOUT NEW SIDEWALKS, BUT ABOUT EXISTING SIDEWALKS.
WHAT WHAT IS THE MAINTENANCE PLAN AND WHAT I MEAN, EVERYBODY WILL WANT TO CALL IN A CRACK ABOUT ON THE SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE. OBVIOUSLY, THERE HAS TO BE SOME STANDARD AS TO WHAT YOU SEND A CREW OUT TO REPAIR BECAUSE YOU'RE DEALING WITH SAFETY A LOT OF TIMES. I'M NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU AN INFORMED ANSWER ON THAT.
SIR, I WOULD LIKE TO REFER TO OUR OPERATIONS STAFF.
SO IF YOU WOULD ALLOW ME TO BRING THAT INFORMATION BACK TO YOU NEXT MONTH.
OKAY. ALONG THOSE SAME LINE, THE REASON I. YOU'RE JUST INTERESTED IN OUR MAINTENANCE OF EXISTING SIDEWALKS, NOT OUR NEW SIDEWALKS COMING FORWARD. WELL, I'M INTERESTED IN BOTH.
OKAY. I MEANT AS FAR AS THE NEXT MEETING, YOU HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS THAT YOU.
I GAVE YOU THE ANSWERS REGARDING NEW CONSTRUCTION.
YES, MA'AM. AND NOW YOU WANT ANSWERS ON WHAT OUR MAINTENANCE PROCEDURES ARE AND WHAT OUR MAINTENANCE SCHEDULES ARE FOR THOSE SIDEWALKS, AND HOW WE DECIDE WHICH SIDEWALKS TO GO OUT AND INSPECT AND FIX.
AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, RIGHT? RIGHT.
BECAUSE I, I REPORTED A SIDEWALK ISSUE AND I WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS LATER.
I WENT IN AND FILLED OUT A TICKET ON THE WEBSITE, AND THE NEXT DAY IT WAS FIXED, BUT THERE WAS NO FEEDBACK BACK TO ME TELLING ME IT WAS FIXED. I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS FIXED UNTIL I WENT THERE AND SEEN IT WAS REPAIRED MYSELF.
THE SAME THING HAPPENED WITH THE CROSSING LIGHT AT MALABAR AND JUPITER.
THE LIGHT SWITCH WAS OFF THE PEDESTAL AND I PUT IN A TROUBLE TICKET AND IT GOT FIXED.
BUT THERE WAS NO FEEDBACK. BACK TO THE CITIZEN.
SO THAT THAT THE END OF THE LOOP TO CLOSE THE LOOP IS NOT NOT HAPPENING.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S YOU GUYS. I THINK THAT'S MORE AN IT ISSUE.
SO WHAT I'M HEARING IS YOU ARE PUTTING IN A CONCERN, A COMPLAINT.
I'M OPENING A TICKET. KNOW THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S NOT CORRECT.
THE LOOP DOESN'T GET CLOSED. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME KNOW THAT.
ANYTHING ELSE WITH THE SIDEWALKS? WE'LL MOVE ALONG TO OH.
YES, SIR. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST, ALONG WITH THE SIDEWALKS COMING IN ALONG THE ROUTE. IT'D BE PREFERABLE BY BATTEN STANDARD THAT WE ONLY PUT SIDEWALKS ON ONE SIDE OF THE ROAD SO WE COULD GET LONGER DISTANCES INSTEAD OF SIDEWALK ON EACH SIDE.
THAT'S ONLY SHORT. WE COULD GET A LONGER DISTANCE FOR THE PEOPLE TO TRAVEL FURTHER AND START COLLECTING PEOPLE FURTHER FROM THE SCHOOL, INSTEAD OF THOSE THAT ARE JUST WITHIN THE CLOSEST PROXIMITY TO THE SCHOOL.
A LITTLE BIT LONGER. RUN ON ONE SIDE INSTEAD OF BOTH.
THANK YOU. I DID HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. ARE THOSE MULTIMODAL OR JUST SIDEWALKS? I BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO BE DESIGNING THE SITE.
THE I BELIEVE THERE ARE FIVE FOOT SIDEWALKS, SO I BELIEVE THEY ARE SIDEWALKS.
THEY ARE NOT MULTIMODAL. THANK YOU. ALLEN, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD? NO. THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE? MOVE ON TO OLD BUSINESS AND THE
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PCI INDEX UPDATE AGAIN. MISS SULLIVAN. AGAIN, I AM HAPPY TO REPORT THAT OUR CONTRACTOR HAS TRAVELED ALL OF THE ROADS, ALL OF THE ASPHALT ROADS WITHIN THE CITY, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE, NEIGHBORHOOD ROADS IN THE COMPOUND.THEY DID THE COLLECTOR ARTERIAL ROADS WITHIN THE COMPOUND, BUT THAT'S ALL THEY DID IN THERE.
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HOPEFULLY BY THE END OF THIS MONTH, EARLY NEXT MONTH, WE'LL HAVE THE DATA, AND THEN WE WILL BE SHARING THAT WITH AN ENGINEERING FIRM TO HELP US DETERMINE THE BEST PATH FORWARD AND THAT WE WILL BRING TO YOU WHEN IT'S AVAILABLE.I KNOW AN APPROXIMATE AMOUNT, BUT I ALSO KNOW AN APPROXIMATE.
$1 MILLION IS A LOT, A LOT OF MONEY TO ME ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
SO. I CAN, FROM MEMORY FOR THE NEXT MEETING IS FINE.
IF YOU WANT THAT HERE. I'D RATHER HAVE THE MORE ACCURATE.
I WILL GET THAT NUMBER TO YOU. THANK YOU. MA'AM.
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OTHER BUSINESS REQUESTS FOR FUTURE MEETINGS. I HAVE ONE THING, AND I'VE CONTACTED COUNCIL AND I'VE TALKED TO THE DEPUTY MAYOR ABOUT IT IS THE POLICE CHIEF CAME FORWARD AND SAID THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT PUTTING NEW RESTRICTIONS ON.THEY STATED THE PURPOSE WAS E-BIKES. BUT IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, A BICYCLE IS A BICYCLE.
SO YOU CAN'T TELL THE KIDS THAT THEY CAN'T RIDE THEIR BIKE TO SCHOOL BECAUSE AT THE SAME TIME, YOU WOULD BE TELLING THEM THEY CAN'T RIDE A BICYCLE TO SCHOOL.
SO. THERE STATE LAWS THAT WE SHOULD BE ENFORCING.
BUT I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK AT THIS FROM OUR STANDPOINT BECAUSE INSTEAD OF JUST STRICT ENFORCEMENT, OTHER THINGS HAVE TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION, SUCH AS PEOPLE COMMUTING.
AS OUR DENSITY GROWS, THERE'LL BE MORE PEDESTRIANS, MORE BICYCLES.
SO I JUST DON'T WANT A KNEE JERK REACTION TO SOMETHING THAT ISN'T REALLY A PROBLEM YET, BECAUSE THE NUMBERS WERE GIVEN WERE STRICTLY ABOUT E-BIKES AND NOT A TOTALITARIAN, EXCUSE ME, TOTALITY OF ALL THE ACCIDENTS THAT HAPPENED THROUGHOUT THE CITY INVOLVING BIKES IN TOTAL.
SO THE OTHER POINT I MADE TO TO THE COUNCIL WAS THERE 16 ORDINANCES ON THE BOOKS THAT HAVE TO DO WITH BICYCLES, AND YET WE DON'T ENFORCE THE ONE STATE LAW. THAT'S PROBABLY THE MOST ENFORCEABLE AND THE MOST IMPORTANT, WHICH IS THAT CHILDREN UNDER 16 SHOULD HAVE A HELMET ON.
SO I WOULD LIKE THE BOARD TO CONSIDER LOOKING AT THINK ABOUT THIS AS A WHOLE.
BECAUSE I THINK JUST REGULATING IT ISN'T THE ANSWER, BECAUSE HONESTLY, THE SIDEWALKS THE SAFEST PLACE FOR THE KIDS TO BE ON THE BIKES, ESPECIALLY DOWN MALABAR ROAD, BECAUSE OTHERWISE YOU'RE PUTTING A TEN MILE AN HOUR BICYCLE INTO 40 MILE AN HOUR TRAFFIC THAT'S ALREADY CONGESTED.
I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN ABOUT OUR OUR BICYCLIST, OUR CYCLISTS OF ALL, ALL, ALL TYPES BEING ABLE TO TRAVEL SAFELY. I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT IS AN INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUE.
THAT SOUNDS MORE LIKE A POSSIBLY A POLICE MATTER.
AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING PUBLIC WORKS TO PROVIDE YOU AS FAR AS THIS IS CONCERNED.
IT MAKES A GREAT BIKE ROUTE INSTEAD OF PUTTING THEM ON MINTON ROAD, WHICH IS EXACTLY PARALLEL TO IT.
SAME WITH MALABAR ROAD. THERE'S SO MANY ROADS THAT ARE THAT RUN PARALLEL TO MALABAR AND KEEP YOU OFF OF, YOU KNOW, OFF THE MAIN ROADS. AND JUST THINKING ABOUT, I MEAN, THE TPO DID THEIR BIG THING ABOUT THE BIKES, THE PATHS AND OPENING UP THE CANALS AS THE CITY.
I THINK WE COULD LOOK AT IT, WORKING OFF OF THAT ALSO TO MAKE IT MORE THE CITY MORE ACCESSIBLE TO BICYCLES AND PEDESTRIANS. SO CHAIR TO TO KIND OF PIGGYBACK OFF THAT.
SO INSTEAD SO YOU TALK THINKING ABOUT OFFERING AN OPTION FOR FROM POINT A TO POINT B.
HERE'S THE PATH THAT YOU WOULD TAKE. THAT'S THE MOST COMMON SENSE THAT'S AVAILABLE TODAY OR IN THE FUTURE, RIGHT. OKAY. MAYBE SOME SIGNAGE SO THE CARS ARE AWARE AND THEN SOME SOME YOU KNOW, SIGNAGE TO THE BIKE PATH.
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AND MIGHT EVEN BE MORE EFFICIENT PROVIDING THAT PATH EITHER VIA SIGNAGE OR COMMUNICATION VIA ON THE WEBSITE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO IT COULD BE OUTLINED AND DISSEMINATED TO THE, TO, I GUESS, TO THE MASSES.YEAH. RIGHT. AND ONE OTHER THING I BROKE UP, I BROUGHT UP SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, AND I'M JUST HOPING TO GET AN UPDATE ON WAS THERE'S NO PEDESTRIAN CROSSING OUT AT HERITAGE PARKWAY IN MALABAR ROAD.
IT'S A FREE FOR ALL FOR THE PEDESTRIAN AS WELL AND CARS.
BUT THERE'S NO YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO CROSS, THERE'S NO CROSSING SIGNAL FOR THE PEDESTRIANS.
AND THIS HAS BEEN I KNOW WE'RE WAITING ON I KNOW THE WHOLE STORY BEHIND IT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE'RE GOING TO START UP ANOTHER SCHOOL YEAR AND HAVE KIDS GOING ACROSS THERE WITHOUT HAVING PROPER CROSSINGS IN PLACE.
I CAN'T PUT ANY CROSSWALKS ON MALABAR ROAD RIGHT AS COUNTY ROAD.
YES, SIR. AND WE'VE GOT THE WHOLE DESIGN ISSUE WITH THAT INTERSECTION.
YES, SIR. SO WOULD WE NEED TO GET COUNCIL TO ADDRESS THIS WITH THE COUNTY? I MEAN, THE TEMPORARY LIGHTS THAT ARE OUT THERE ARE CITY LIGHTS, RIGHT? YES, SIR. WE HAVE A PERMIT TO HAVE THOSE THERE.
ARE YOU ASKING US TO REACH OUT TO THE COUNTY TO DISCUSS THIS FURTHER? I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF THERE'S A SOLUTION TO MAKE IT SAFER FOR THE KIDS GOING OUT THERE TO THE SCHOOL.
THAT'S A THAT'S A RED LIGHT. CORRECT. CROSSING SAINT JOHN'S PARKWAY.
DOES IT HAVE A DOES IT HAVE A TURN SIGNAL AS WELL? A LEFT TURN, LEFT TURN GOING EAST. RIGHT TURN SOUTH SOUTH.
IT'S A RED LIGHT, RIGHT. THE ISSUE IS THAT THERE'S NO PEDESTRIAN FEATURES.
RIGHT. THEY DO HAVE A CROSSWALK THERE. THERE IS SIGNAGE TELLING PEOPLE TO YIELD TO PEDESTRIANS.
SO I'M SORRY, WINN DIXIE OR. EXCUSE ME. PUBLIX.
OH, OKAY. THE NEW PUBLIX. AND I'D LIKE TO ADD ON TO THAT.
YEAH, BECAUSE THAT'S OUR BACKYARD THERE. AND I WHEN I WAS LEAVING PUBLIX JUST TWO DAYS AGO IN THE MORNING AND WAS WITNESSING FOLKS COMING BACK GOING TO HERITAGE AND YOU KNOW, AND THERE WAS A CAR.
AND IT JUST. YEAH, THERE'S NO I LIKE THE WAY YOU PUT IT, PEDESTRIAN FEATURES, FEATURES THERE.
AND AND THAT'S PART OF THE NEWBIE IN ME HERE.
I DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE THAT WAS COUNTY. THAT THAT THAT IS COUNTY SECTION RIGHT THERE.
YEAH. SO WOULD A DRAFTED COMMUNICATION TO THE STATEMENT FROM THE BOARD TO THE COUNTY CARRY ANY WEIGHT, OR WOULD WE NEED I GUESS, WHAT KIND OF INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT TYPE STUFF THAT MIGHT I CAN I CAN REACH OUT TO THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER AT THE COUNTY AND ASK WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS ARE.
YEAH. AND, I MEAN, WE'D BE WILLING TO I'D BE WILLING TO DRAFT, YOU KNOW, IF DRAFT AN EMAIL SPECIFICALLY AND AND WELCOME ANYBODY ELSE TO, TO DO THE SAME BECAUSE I PHYSICALLY SEEN THE POTENTIAL ISSUE THERE.
YEAH. THE THE IN ADDITION TO THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALK STRIPING, WE WOULD ALSO NEED, I BELIEVE PEDESTRIAN LIGHT FEATURES, PEDESTRIAN FEATURES FOR THE LIGHTS.
WHERE AM I GOING TO PUT IT RIGHT AWAY TO PUT IT THERE.
WE LOOKED AT THIS. YEAH. POINT OF VIEW. AND WE DID HAVE TO YIELD TO PEDESTRIANS IN THE CROSSWALK.
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WE HAVE THOSE A LOT OF SIGNALS AROUND THE CITY.WELL THIS ISN'T SO MUCH A PUBLIC WORKS ISSUE NOW AS IT IS A PROCUREMENT ISSUE.
DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE PROCUREMENT? IT'S A COMPLICATED ISSUE, SIR, THAT WE WEREN'T ANTICIPATING HAVING THE TEMPORARY SIGNALS UP THIS LONG, OBVIOUSLY. I, I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS BEING HANDLED, BEING DISCUSSED OUTSIDE OF MY REALM. SO I DON'T REALLY HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION FOR YOU AS FAR AS HOW MUCH LONGER WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE TEMPORARY SIGNALS THERE.
I JUST KNOW THAT THERE ARE CONVERSATIONS BEING HAD.
I'M NOT. I CAN'T GIVE YOU ANY MORE INFORMATION.
I MEAN, TO ME, MY TOM'S POINT OF VIEW IS WHEN SCHOOL STARTS UP.
I ASSUME THAT'S RHETORIC. SO FROM A BECAUSE AGAIN, WE KNOW SOME DAY IN THE FUTURE THAT'S GOING TO BE AN EXTENSION OF SJP GOING SOUTH. SO ONCE THAT HAPPENS, IS ANNEXATION GOING TO BE THE NEXT STEP OF PALM BAY EXPANDING THAT DIRECTION? AND WHEN THAT HAPPENS, THAT'S A FUTURE.
BECAUSE AGAIN, WE'RE OUR HANDS ARE TIED AS A CITY BECAUSE IT'S COUNTY.
JUST JUST TO BE CLEAR, MALABAR ROAD IS BELONGS TO THE COUNTY FROM JUPITER.
NO. MATT MINTON OKAY C20. OKAY. THANK YOU. C20 OKAY.
THEY DO NOT THE COUNTY DOES NOT OWN SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY.
THE CITY DOES, AND THE CITY OWNS THE LAND SOUTH OF MALABAR THAT IS ALREADY ANNEXED INTO THE CITY.
WE DON'T OWN THE LAND, BUT IT'S WITHIN THE CITY.
IT'S JUST. IT'S JUST THE EASEMENT, THE ROAD AND THE EASEMENT.
SO DO YOU HAVE THE CONTIGUOUS REQUIREMENTS FOR ROADS TO WHERE YOU CAN'T WEAVE IN AND OUT OF A OF A UNINCORPORATED VERSUS UNINCORPORATED JUST UNFAMILIAR WITH.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION. SO I HATE TO ALWAYS TALK ABOUT WHERE I CAME FROM, BUT ON MY AS A COMMISSIONER, WE HAD MANY ISSUES WHERE OUR CITY ROADS WOULD WEAVE IN AND OUT OF UNINCORPORATED AND INCORPORATED AREAS.
YES, SIR. WE HAVE THAT. SO YOU CAN DO THE SAME.
YEAH. AND BUT WE WERE WORKING ON OPPORTUNITIES TO WHERE IN CERTAIN AREAS BECAUSE WE NEEDED A MASSIVE STRETCH OF PAVED WAGON TRAILS TO, TO BE UPGRADED, BUT WE CAN'T BECAUSE THEY WERE WEAVED IN AND OUT SEVEN TIMES WITHIN A TWO MILE PERIOD, WORKING OUT A INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WHERE WE WOULD THE COUNTY WOULD THEN I CAN'T REMEMBER THE TECHNICAL TERM TERM, BUT DEED THAT PORTION OF THE ROAD TO THE CITY TO GET THAT DONE.
IT MEANS THAT WE TAKE OVER THE OWNERSHIP AND THE MAINTENANCE OF IT.
BUT THAT'S KIND OF A NEEDED POTENTIAL, ESPECIALLY IN THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF WHERE THE WHERE IT SITS WITH THE WITH THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE COMING WITH THE SCHOOL IMPACT.
I JUST YEAH I'D AGAIN THAT SPENDING OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY.
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY IT'S SEEMS LIKE A NO BRAINER.
AND THOSE ARE DECISIONS THAT ARE NOT YET NOT MADE AT THIS AT THIS LEVEL.
ABSOLUTELY. SO I'M NOT ABLE TO COMMENT ON ANY OF THE CONVERSATION.
I DON'T I DON'T KNOW. I'M SORRY. OH, ABSOLUTELY.
IT'S A GOOD GOOD TO KNOW I IT'S A LEARNING EXPERIENCE FOR ME RIGHT HERE BECAUSE I DID NOT KNOW.
YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. INTERESTING. STATE SOUTH IS COUNTY.
IT'S I MEAN THAT. YEAH. OKAY. I JUST EVERY TIME I GO BY THERE, I'M CONCERNED WITH IT.
AND I THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT TO OUR ATTENTION.
WE WE ARE AWARE AND WE ARE DOING THE, YOU KNOW, THE BEST WE CAN WITH WHAT WE HAVE.
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THAN IT PRESENTLY IS. SO DID ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING FOR THE UPCOMING AGENDAS? I DO I JUST WANT TO SAY SOMETHING TO GO BACK TO WHAT WE'RE SPEAKING ABOUT HERE.I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD COME UP WITH A PERMANENT SOLUTION. PALM BAY IS A PLACE TO GROW, RIGHT? SO IT GETS IT KEEPS GETTING BIGGER AND BIGGER.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE CARS, MORE PEOPLE ON MALABAR ROAD.
I MEAN, WE NEED TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO. THAT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING OVER THE NEXT FIVE, TEN YEARS. THIS IS WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, NOT SOMETHING TEMPORARY, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A BRIDGE SO WE CAN HAVE OUR KIDS SAY, CAN YOU JUST TAKE A WALK ON MALABAR SOMETHING? YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST MY SUGGESTION.
I DID HAVE ONE MORE THING. WAS IT THE LEADERSHIP TEAM? THEY HAD AN ACRONYM LEAD OR SOMETHING THAT'S DOING A BEAUTIFICATION OF MALABAR ROAD.
I THINK IT'S CALLED LITE LIGHT CORRECTLY. RIGHT.
YEAH. COULD WE GET THEM TO COME IN AND OH, I CAN CERTAINLY ASK.
CERTAINLY. YES. YOU WANT INFORMATION ON THE BEAUTIFICATION, THE BEAUTIFICATION AND SEE IF.
YEAH. CERTAINLY. WE'LL ASK SOMEONE TO BE HERE AT THE NEXT MEETING IF WE CAN GET THEM.
GREAT. APPRECIATE IT. ANYTHING ELSE? JUST WANT TO ASK ONE THING ON THE SIDEWALK PROGRAM.
WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO START ON IT? I'M SORRY.
WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO START ON THE SIDEWALK PROGRAM DOWN.
DEGROOT. OH WE HAVE NOT THE GRANT ISN'T OPEN YET.
WE, I BELIEVE ARE IF I'M IF I HAVEN'T CONFUSED MY GRANTS, I BELIEVE THAT WE ARE WORKING ON SETTING UP MEETINGS FOR OUR GRANT APPLICATION PROCESS THAT THE CITY HAS, WHERE WE HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR FINANCE TEAM, OUR PROCUREMENT TEAM PUBLIC WORKS. AND I THINK THERE'S ONE OTHER DEPARTMENT WE HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH TO ENSURE THAT THE GRANT IS FEASIBLE, AND ANY MATCH THAT WE'RE REQUESTING IS IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE MATCHED.
SO THAT HAS TO BE DONE BEFORE WE TAKE IT TO COUNCIL.
AND BUT AGAIN, THE GRANT DOESN'T OPEN YET. WE'RE, WE'RE DOING THIS AS A PRECURSOR TO SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING IN THE SAME MONTH. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET AHEAD OF THE BALL.
KITTLESON HAS ALREADY GIVEN THEIR REPORT AND GIVEN US OUR OPTIONS, AND WE'VE CHOSEN WHAT WE LIKE.
AND THAT IS WHAT WE WILL BASE OUR OUR GRANT REQUEST ON.
SO ONCE THE GRANT IS ONCE IT'S OPEN AND WE CAN SUBMIT OUR DOCUMENTATION, WE WILL BE DOING THAT.
IT WILL PROBABLY TAKE A YEAR BEFORE WE'RE NOTIFIED AS TO WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE GRANT, AND DURING THAT TIME WE'LL BE WORKING ON THE DESIGN OF THE OF THE SIDEWALK.
SO, OKAY, THE EMERSON SIDEWALK WAS THE SAME TYPE OF GRANT.
AND WE'VE BEEN TRYING WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE GOVERNMENT TO GET THAT GRANT FINALIZED FOR, I THINK, ABOUT A YEAR. SO IT WAS A YEAR LONG PROCESS TO GET IT APPROVED.
AND WE'VE BEEN A YEAR LONG PROCESS TO ACTUALLY GET THE GRANT.
AND AND THOSE ARE ROUGH ESTIMATES OF TIME. SO IT COULD BE TEN MONTHS.
IT COULD BE 14 MONTHS. I DON'T HAVE THOSE NUMBERS IN FRONT OF ME.
BUT I DID WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR. SO NOT SOON, SIR.
LAST CALL SEEING. NOTHING ELSE. CALL THE MEETING ADJOURNED.
THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.