[00:00:01] IT IS NOW 1800 HOURS. I'M GOING TO CALL THIS REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. [CALL TO ORDER:] 2026 DASH ZERO EIGHT TO ORDER. THE INVOCATION WILL BE PROVIDED BY PASTOR TIM RITCHEY FROM EASTWIND PENTECOSTAL CHURCH. AND OH YEAH, GO AHEAD. I LOVE THAT, I LOVE THAT. AND THEN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WILL BE LED BY COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN. ALL RISE. PASTOR RICHIE. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY AND PRIVILEGE TO BRING FORTH THE WORD TONIGHT. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR CITY. PROVERBS TELLS US THAT BLESSED IS THE MAN THAT FINDETH WISDOM, AND THE MAN THAT GIVETH UNDERSTANDING. FOR THE MERCHANDISE OF WISDOM IS BETTER THAN THE MERCHANDISE OF SILVER AND OF GAIN OF GREAT GOLD. SHE IS MORE PRECIOUS THAN RUBIES, AND ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU CAN DESIRE ARE NOT TO BE COMPARED UNTO WISDOM. LET US PRAY. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME BEFORE YOU, AND WE KNOW THAT YOU'RE ON THE THRONE, THAT YOU'RE THE KING OF KINGS AND THE LORD OF LORDS. AND LORD, WE PRAY THAT YOU WOULD MOVE IN THIS COUNCIL MEETING TONIGHT. I PRAY FOR EACH AND EVERY MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL THAT YOU WOULD GIVE THEM WISDOM AND KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING. GIVE THEM THE CONSCIENCE, OH LORD, TO DO THE THINGS THAT ARE RIGHT, AND TO PUT YOU FIRST IN ALL THAT WE DO. LORD, WE PRAY FOR THIS GREAT CITY. WE PRAY FOR OUR LAW ENFORCEMENTS AND FOR ALL OF OUR FIRST RESPONDERS. GOD, THAT YOU WOULD KEEP YOUR HAND UPON THEM. GIVE THEM PROTECTION AS THEY DO THEIR DUTY. THANK YOU, LORD, FOR A CITY WHERE WE HAVE OF SAFETY. THANK YOU, LORD, FOR KEEPING YOUR HAND UPON US. LORD, WE ARE NOTHING WITHOUT YOUR TOUCH. AND WE JUST PRAY GOD THAT YOU WOULD MOVE IN A SPECIAL WAY IN OUR SERVICE TONIGHT. AND WE'LL GIVE YOU ALL THE PRAISE AND ALL THE GLORY. IN JESUS NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HURRAH, HURRAH! YEAH, YEAH. GO AHEAD AND MOTIVATE ME, GENTLEMEN. MADAM LOEFFLER, ROLL CALL. MAYOR. MEDINA. PRESENT. DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE. PRESENT. COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON. PRESENT. COUNCILMAN. HAMMER. PRESENT. COUNCILMAN. LANGEVIN. PRESENT. MR. MORTON PRESENT. MISS SMITH. PRESENT. DEPUTY MAYOR, WE'RE NOW ON ANNOUNCEMENTS. [ANNOUNCEMENTS:] WE HAVE ONE VACANCY ON THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD, REPRESENTING ONE OF THE FOLLOWING FIELDS RELATING TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING NOT FOR PROFIT PROVIDER RESIDENTIAL HOME BUILDING AND ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN HOME BUILDING POSITIONS. WE HAVE TWO VACANCIES ON THE CITIZENS ACCOUNTABILITY TASK FORCE. THESE REPRESENT AT LARGE POSITIONS. ANYONE WISHING TO SERVE ON THESE BOARDS CAN APPLY ONLINE AT PALM BAY OR CONTACT THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AT 9523414. THANK YOU. WANTED TO CONGRATULATE ALL MEMBERS OF COUNCIL FOR THEIR APPOINTMENTS ON THE CITIZEN ACCOUNTABILITY TASK FORCE. THOSE TWO ARE AT LARGE POSITIONS. WE'RE NOW ON AGENDA REVISIONS, MR. [AGENDA REVISIONS:] MORTON. NO REVISIONS TONIGHT. THANK YOU, MADAM SMITH. NO, SIR. COUNCIL. ANY AGENDA? REVISIONS. SEEING NONE. WE'RE GOING STRAIGHT TO PROCLAMATIONS. [PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS:] SO GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. IT'S OKAY. YOU COULD, YOU COULD. THIS IS AN EXCHANGE. IT'S. IT'S OKAY. SO VERY FIRST OFF REALLY PROUD TO TO DO SOMETHING COLLECTIVELY AS A COUNCIL. I WANTED JUST TO THANK EACH AND EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER, BECAUSE WHEN WE BROUGHT UP BEING THE FIRST CITY TO BE A PURPLE HEART CITY, EACH AND EVERY MEMBER ON THAT DAIS GAVE A RESOUNDING CONSENSUS. SO THAT JUST SHOWS WHERE THE HEART IS, AND THE HEART IS TO HONOR THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT HAVE SACRIFICED SO MUCH FOR OUR NATION. I'M GOING TO CALL KEITH VAN BUREN UP, THE COMMANDER OF THE MILITARY ORDER OF THE PURPLE HEARTS, [00:05:04] CHAPTER 453. COME ON UP, MR. VAN BUREN. BUT I LIKE TO SEE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU COME JOIN US. EACH AND EVERY MEMBER, EVERY VETERAN AND EVERY PURPLE HEART RECIPIENT. COME ON UP. EVERY MEMBER OF THAT CHAPTER. COME ON UP AND JOIN US UP HERE. THAT'S YOU TWO, THAT MOTIVATOR. HOW ARE YOU, MR. ROBINSON? COME ON. RUSS. GET. THE CUTEST ONES. YOU GOT TO GO ON THAT SIDE. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A FEW MINUTES TO HAVE US JOIN US. WE LOVE YOU. YEAH. HOW YOU DOING? BIG GUY UP THERE. WHO'S UP THERE? COME ON, GUNNY. COME ON UP. YOU GOT CUED IN. COME ON UP. YES, SIR. WHAT'S UP? GUNNY? GOOD TO SEE YOU. RA RA, JUST A SECOND. YOU CAN STAND RIGHT THERE. JOIN US. JOE. GO AHEAD. OKAY. THANKS FOR BEING HERE, RUSS. I KNEW I COULD COUNT ON YOU COMING, MAN. YOU'RE MOTIVATED. YES, SIR. ALRIGHT. IF YOU. IF YOU HAVEN'T GUESSED IT YET. MOTIVATOR, I NEED YOU OVER HERE. COME ON OVER HERE. OKAY. YOU SIT ON THAT DECK OR STAND UP. STAND BELOW. BUT COME HERE. NO, NO. STAND UP. I NEED YOU TO HOLD THAT. GUYS, LOOK AT THIS. OH! WOW. NICE. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT THAT MOTIVATES THE HECK OUT OF ME. MILITARY ORDER OF THE PURPLE HEART CITY. IT IS HEREBY PROCLAIMED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH, GENTLEMEN. AND THIS IS WHY WE'RE THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH. WHEREAS THE CITY OF PALM BAY, THE LARGEST CITY LOCATED ON FLORIDA'S SPACE COAST, HAS ALWAYS SUPPORTED THE MILITARY VETERAN, VETERAN POPULATION. AND WHEREAS THE PURPLE HEART, THE OLDEST MILITARY DECORATION AND USE TODAY EVOLVED FROM THE BADGE OF MILITARY MERIT, CREATED BY GEORGE WASHINGTON FOR THE COMMON SOLDIER IN 1782. WHEREAS THE PURPLE HEART IS AWARDED TO MEMBERS OF THE UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES THAT HAVE BEEN WOUNDED OR KILLED IN COMBAT WITH A DECLARED ENEMY OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND WHEREAS, THE MISSION OF THE MILITARY ORDER OF THE PURPLE HEART IS TO FOSTER AN ENVIRONMENT OF GOODWILL AMONG THE COMBAT WOUNDED VETERANS AND THEIR FAMILIES, PROMOTE PATRIOTISM, SUPPORT LEGISLATION, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, MAKE SURE WE NEVER, EVER FORGET. AND WHEREAS, THE CITY OF PALM BAY, LOCATED IN BREVARD COUNTY, HAS A LARGE, HIGHLY DECORATED VETERAN POPULATION, INCLUDING MANY PURPLE HEART RECIPIENTS. AND WHEREAS THE CONTRIBUTION AND SUPPORT OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA. IT IS VITAL TO THE CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AS TO OUR MILITARY HISTORY AND OUR HERITAGE. WHEREAS THE CITY OF PALM BAY, ALONG WITH THE MILITARY ORDER OF THE PURPLE HEART, SPACE COAST CHAPTER 453 OF FLORIDA APPRECIATES THE SACRIFICES OF OUR PURPLE HEART RECIPIENTS AND THAT HAVE MADE IN DEFENDING OUR FREEDOMS AND FEEL IT IS IMPORTANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THEM FOR THEIR COURAGE AND SHOW THEM THE SUPPORT THAT THEY HAVE EARNED. NOW, THEREFORE, I ROB MEDINA, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, HEREBY PROCLAIM THIS CITY HAS A PURPLE HEART CITY IN HONOR OF ALL COMBAT WOUNDED VETERANS, AND TO FULLY SUPPORT THE MILITARY ORDER OF THE PURPLE HEART AND ENCOURAGE ALL OUR CITIZENS OF PALM BAY TO INCREASE THEIR KNOWLEDGE OF OUR MILITARY HISTORY AND OUR HERITAGE. IN WITNESS HEREOF, I SET MY HAND AND CAUSED THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO BE AFFIXED THIS FIFTH DAY OF MARCH, 2026. KEITH VAN BUREN, STEP UP JUST SO THAT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU KNOW, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE IS A RESOLUTION ALSO DECLARING THIS CITY AS A MILITARY ORDER OF PURPLE HEART CITY. [00:10:05] AND KEITH, COME ON UP AND SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT THE MEN THAT HAVE PROTECTED EACH AND EVERY ONE OF OUR LIVES. BROTHER. THANK YOU. I'M NOT GOING TO BE AS EXCITING AS THE MAYOR HERE. SO WE'D LIKE TO THANK THE CITY FOR GOING AND DOING THIS. YOU GUYS REALLY TOOK IT, AND YOU RAN WITH IT. YOU'VE DONE MORE THAN WE'VE ASKED, AND. AND I'M THE CHAPTER'S VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THAT. WE'D LIKE TO THANK THE PEOPLE OF PALM BAY FOR YOUR SUPPORT ON BEHALF OF THE MILITARY OR THE PURPLE HEART. SPACE COAST CHAPTER 453, OUR CHAPTER INCLUDES CURRENTLY MORE THAN 140 MEMBERS THROUGHOUT BREVARD COUNTY. A FEW YEARS AGO WHEN I JOINED, IT WAS JUST OVER 200. SOME OF THEM HAVE PASSED, SOME OF THEM HAVE MOVED. BUT WE KNOW THERE'S MORE PURPLE HEART RECIPIENTS OUT IN BREVARD COUNTY, AND WE'D LIKE THEM TO JOIN. WE'D LIKE THEM TO JOIN OUR FELLOWSHIP, OUR SUPPORT, AND OUR CONTINUED SERVICE TO ONE ANOTHER AND TO OUR COMMUNITIES. TONIGHT, AS THE MAYOR SAID, PALM BAY BECOMES THE FIRST PURPLE HEART CITY IN BREVARD COUNTY, THE 84TH CITY IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT. AND WE THANK PALM BAY LEADERSHIP. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO USE YOU GUYS AS A A METHOD TO GET OTHER CITIES TO GET ON BOARD HERE. SO WE'D ALSO LIKE TO REMEMBER THE PALM BAY SERVICE MEMBERS THAT HAVE BEEN SORRY, THAT HAVE BEEN KILLED IN ACTION DURING OPERATION ENDURING FREEDOM, OPERATION IRAQI FREEDOM, AND IN SUPPORT OF OPERATION INHERENT RESOLVE. SO I'M JUST GOING TO READ THE SEVERAL NAMES REAL QUICK. WE HAVE ARMY PRIVATE FIRST CLASS MICHAEL CREIGHTON WELDON, 20. KIA 29TH MARCH 2003 IRAQ ARMY CAPTAIN JASON KORN 31, KIA 2ND MAY 2003. IRAQ ARMY SPECIALIST JEREMIAH JERRY SANCHO 23, KIA 13TH OCTOBER 2011 AFGHANISTAN ARMY SPECIALIST JUSTIN HORSLEY, 21, KIA 22ND JULY 2012 AFGHANISTAN. MARINE GUNNERY SERGEANT JONATHAN GIFFORD, 34, KIA, 29TH JULY 2012, AFGHANISTAN. AN AIR FORCE STAFF SERGEANT TRISTAN WRIGHT, 28, WHO WAS KILLED IN AN UNDISCLOSED LOCATION IN SUPPORT OF OPERATION INHERENT RESOLVE AND WHOSE DEATH REMAINS UNDER DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE REVIEW. THEIR NAMES MATTER. THEIR SERVICE MATTERS AND THEIR FAMILIES MATTER. IN THE PAST WEEK, SIX MORE AMERICAN SERVICE MEMBERS HAVE BEEN KILLED IN ACTIONS TAKING PLACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST. SIX MORE PURPLE HEART RECIPIENTS. SIX SORRY, SIX FAMILIES WHO ARE NOW GOLD STAR FAMILIES AND WILL CARRY THAT LOSS. IN AN UNCERTAIN WORLD WHERE MUCH FEELS BEYOND OUR CONTROL, WE CAN CONTROL WHAT WE CAN CULTIVATE HERE AT HOME. WE CAN CHOOSE REMEMBRANCE. WE CAN CHOOSE UNITY. WE CAN CHOOSE FELLOWSHIP. THE MEN STANDING WITH ME AND THE PURPLE HEART RECIPIENTS ACROSS THIS NATION ARE LIVING PROOF THAT EVEN AFTER A TRAUMATIC EXPERIENCES, A LIFE OF SERVICE CAN CONTINUE. THEY'VE INSPIRED ME AND MANY OTHERS TO KEEP PUSHING FORWARD, TO NOT LET THE HARD DAYS WIN, AND TO REMEMBER THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO CARE AND ARE WILLING TO HELP. SO TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY, TO THE PEOPLE OF PALM BAY, WE THANK YOU ALL FOR HELPING US CARRY THIS MISSION OUT, AND WE HOPE THAT YOU ALSO NEVER FORGET THEIR SACRIFICE AND THAT WE ALL CONTINUE TO SERVE EACH OTHER. THANK YOU. GENTLEMEN, I'M GOING TO ASK THAT YOU ALL COME DOWN OFF THAT DAIS AND JOIN US WITH THESE HEROES. I'M REALLY PROUD THAT THIS CITY IS THE VERY FIRST ONE IN OUR COUNTY. AND I'M. I'M REALLY PROUD OF ALL THESE MEN. I KNOW SEVERAL OF THEM PERSONALLY. AND I THINK THE WORLD OF THEM AND THEY SELFISH UNSELFISHLY. THEY THEY SERVE. YOU COULD TELL, KEITH, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT HE'S DOING. HE'S JUST SERVING OTHER PEOPLE. AND THIS WHOLE TEAM IS THE SAME WAY. MR. ROBINSON, THANKS FOR BEING HERE, BROTHER. I KNOW YOUR WORK AS AN ATTORNEY. YOU'RE AN INSPIRATION TO US ALL. [00:15:02] SO COME ON IN, GUYS. KEITH, GET THAT PROCLAMATION OVER HERE. SHORTER THAN SOMEBODY ELSE. BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A PHOTO. DON'T COVER THE SIGN. COME ON. ROGER THAT. THANK YOU. SIR. YEAH, LET'S GET IT UP. ARE YOU GOOD? THANK YOU, SIR, VERY, VERY MUCH. FREE DOG. WHY DO YOU. OKAY. MOTIVATOR. SHAKE EACH AND EVERY COUNCIL MEMBERS HAND BEFORE YOU DISPERSE. OKAY, THANKS A LOT. I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU FOR. COMING IN. THANK YOU AGAIN, SIR. MY KIDS PLAY BASEBALL, SO I LIVE WITH THEM. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. I'M GONNA SEE YOU HE'S BACK NOW. I'M GONNA SEE YOU LIKE THIS. FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER. DO YOU KNOW CHANDLER? NO, NO, I'M A CORPSMAN. OH, OKAY. YEAH. AWESOME. THANKS. GIVE ME THAT. YEAH. GIVE ME SOME LOVE. GIVE ME SOME LOVE. LOVE YOU GUYS. NOW GET TO WORK. NO, SIR. COME ON. HI, SIR. I'LL SEE YOU. HI, SIR. THANK YOU. MA'AM. YOU YOU HAVE SOME MONEY? WE'LL BE GOOD MONEY. WHAT WE GET? YEAH, HE'S GOT ONE. HE'S GOT THE RESOLUTION. OKAY. I'M GOING TO PUT THIS UP. THAT'S NOT GONNA WORK. OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO GO TO OUR NEXT ONE. GOD BLESS YOU. IT'S GREAT TO SEE YOU. BYE, RUSS. GOD BLESS YOU, BUDDY. OKAY, YOU GUYS GOTTA DISPERSE. YOU'RE DISMISSED. IT'S A MILITARY THING, GUYS. GO AHEAD. FREDO. I GOTTA GET OUT OF HERE. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. I DON'T WANT TO SQUISH THE LETTER. NO! CAREFUL. MY PHONE. ALL RIGHT. READY? ONE. TWO. THREE. I TOOK TWO. HELLO, MAYOR. HI. HEY, MISS SANDY. GOD BLESS YOU. OKAY, WE'RE GOING ON TO THE NEXT PROCLAMATION. I'M GOING TO CALL BRIAN MCCANN UP. COME ON UP, BRIAN. GUESS WHAT TIME IT IS. IT'S MARCH AND IT'S NOT MARCH MADNESS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE. COME ON, BRIAN, COME ON UP HERE, BUDDY. IT IS HEREBY PROCLAIMED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA. WHEREAS BY 1776, NEARLY 300,000 IRISH NATIONALS HAD EMIGRATED TO THE AMERICAN COLONIES AND PLAYED A CRUCIAL ROLE IN AMERICA'S WAR FOR INDEPENDENCE. AND WHEREAS FIVE SIGNERS OF THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE WERE OF IRISH DESCENT, THREE SIGNERS WERE IRISH BORN, WHEREAS IRISH AMERICANS, HELPED TO FASHION A SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT FOR OUR YOUNG NATION. AND WHEREAS 22 PRESIDENTS HAVE PROUDLY PROCLAIMED THAT IRISH AMERICAN HERITAGE. WHEREAS IN 1792, IRISH BORN JAMES HOBAN PROVIDED THE ARCHITECTURAL PLANS FOR THE WHITE HOUSE AND SERVED AS ONE OF THE SUPERVISING ARCHITECTS TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE CAPITOL. AND WHEREAS IRISH BORN COMMODORE JOHN BARRY WAS RECOGNIZED BY THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS IN SEPTEMBER [00:20:03] 2002 AS THE FIRST FLAG OFFICER OF THE UNITED STATES NAVY, WHEREAS COMMODORE BARRY FOUGHT THE LAST SEA BATTLE OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION OFF THE COAST OF FLORIDA. WHEREAS IN 1813, CAPTAIN OLIVER PERRY, AN IRISH AMERICAN, ACHIEVED A MAJOR NAVAL VICTORY IN THE BATTLE OF LAKE ERIE. AND WHEREAS IN 1942, THE FIVE SULLIVAN BROTHERS MADE THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE FOR DEMOCRACY AND FREEDOM DURING THE NAVAL BATTLE OF GUADALCANAL, AND LATER HAD THE DESTROYER USS SULLIVAN COMMISSIONED IN THEIR MEMORY. AND WHEREAS THE IRISH. DID YOU SAY YOU SERVED ON THE SULLIVAN? NO. OH, AS YOU WERE. WHEREAS THE IRISH FIRST CAME TO THE TO THE SPANISH LA FLORIDA IN THE 1500S, FIRST AS MISSIONARIES AND MERCENARY SOLDIERS AND THEN AS PLANTERS, TRADERS, BUSINESSMEN, DOCTORS AND ADMINISTRATORS. AND WHEREAS THREE OF THE SPANISH GOVERNORS OF LA FLORIDA WERE ACTUALLY IRISH MILITARY OFFICERS, WHEREAS FATHER RICHARD ARTHUR, AN IRISH BORN PRIEST FROM LIMERICK WHO WAS APPOINTED PARISH PRIEST FOR SAINT AUGUSTINE IN 1597, WAS THE JUDGE OF LA FLORIDA, ESTABLISHED THE FIRST PUBLIC SCHOOL IN AMERICA, AND OPENED TO BOTH BOYS AND GIRLS AND ALL RACES. WHEREAS ANDREW JACKSON, WHOSE FAMILY CAME FROM COUNTY ANTRIM, ANTRIM SERVED AS FLORIDA'S MILITARY GOVERNOR. FOLLOWING THE ACQUISITION OF THE UNITED STATES BY THE UNITED STATES, WHEREAS IRISH AMERICANS SINCE AMERICA'S INCEPTION HAVE PROVIDED AND CONTINUE TO PROVIDE LEADERSHIP AND SERVICE TO THIS NATION'S POLITICAL, BUSINESS AND RELIGIOUS ESTABLISHMENT, WHEREAS IT IS FITTING AND PROPER TO CELEBRATE THE RICH CULTURAL HERITAGE AND THE MANY VALUABLE CONTRIBUTIONS OF IRISH AMERICAN. NOW, THEREFORE, I. RON MEDINA, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BY VIRTUE OF SAID AUTHORITY, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF MARCH 2026 AS IRISH AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, FLORIDA, AND URGE ALL OUR CITIZENS TO RECOGNIZE THE MANY VALUABLE CONTRIBUTIONS OF IRISH AMERICANS TO THIS COUNTRY. I HAVE SET MY HAND AND CAUSED THE SEAL OF THIS CITY ON THIS FIFTH MAY 5TH DAY OF MARCH, 2026. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU, MAYOR BRIAN. INVITE FOLKS. FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL OF THE GREAT CITY OF MELBOURNE DECLARING MARCH 2026 IRISH DAY, THOUGH. BRIAN. WHAT'D I SAY? MELBOURNE, CITY OF PALM BAY. YEAH, THAT'S NEXT WEEK. THAT'S NEXT WEEK. SO YEAH, AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU DECLARING IRISH HERITAGE MONTH. SO NEXT WEEKEND, THE 14TH IS THE SAINT PATTY'S DAY PARADE. IT'S IN DOWNTOWN MELBOURNE. THAT'S WHERE THAT COMES FROM. SO IT'S 10:00 IN THE MORNING. IT'S GOING TO BE DOWNTOWN. IT STARTS UP, THE AUDITORIUM COMES DOWN, AND IT RUNS DOWN TO NEW HAVEN. AND WE'LL GO TO THE POST OFFICE AND END DOWN THERE. SO YOU'RE ALL WELCOME. I'D LIKE TO SEND MY INVITE TO THE CITY COUNCIL. IF YOU GUYS WANT TO JOIN MAYOR ROB AND COME AND PARTICIPATE IN THE PARADE, WE'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU. THANK YOU AGAIN, IRISH AMERICANS. THANK YOU. INVITE THEM ALL. YOU'RE ALL INVITED. 10:00 IN THE MORNING. AND ISN'T IT A LARGE EVENT? HOW MANY THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WERE THERE THIS YEAR? THERE WAS I WE HAD OVER 1000 MARCHING LAST YEAR, SO IT WAS PRETTY BIG. AND IT WAS A THREE DAY EVENT. THIS YEAR IT'LL BE TWO DAYS IN A ROW. AND THEN I GOT ON ON THE 17TH. MEG'S WILL BE DOING THEIR OPEN HOUSE. SO IT'S GOOD. YOU KNOW, SCOTTY'S A GREAT PERSON. STANDS BEHIND US, AND YOU DO TOO, MR. MAYOR. COPY THAT, SIR. THANK YOU. I JUST DON'T I DON'T DRINK LIKE WHEN I WAS IN THE MARINE CORPS. HE DRINKS WORSE. YES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. GOOD TO SEE YOU. THANK YOU. HAVE A PLATE READY FOR ME RIGHT NEXT TO US. I'M SURE SCOTT IS GOING TO HAVE HIS TENT RIGHT NEXT TO IT. YES, SIR. NICE AND COLD. GUINNESS. THANK YOU GUYS. SO. OUR NEXT AND LAST PROCLAMATION. LAST BUT NOT LEAST FOR TODAY, I'M GOING TO CALL UP SAMANTHA NAZARIO. UP. AND THIS IS THIS IS A REALLY SPECIAL ONE AS WELL. [00:25:02] THIS IS HEMOPHILIA AND BLEEDING DISORDER AWARENESS MONTH. IT IS HEREBY PROCLAIMED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA. WHEREAS HEMOPHILIA IS A RARE DISORDER IN WHICH YOUR BLOOD DOESN'T CLOT NORMALLY BECAUSE IT LACKS SUFFICIENT BLOOD CLOTTING PROTEINS, CLOTTING FACTORS. AND WHEREAS IF YOU HAVE HEMOPHILIA, YOU MAY BLEED FOR A LONGER TIME AFTER AN INJURY THAN YOU WOULD IF YOUR BLOOD CLOTTING NORMALLY CAUSING WEAKNESS OF THE VOLUNTARY MUSCLES. WHEREAS SYMPTOMS OF HEMOPHILIA MAY INCLUDE UNEXPLAINED AND EXCESSIVE BLEEDING, LARGE OR DEEP BRUISES, PAIN AND JOINTS, NOSEBLEEDS WITHOUT A KNOWN CAUSE. AND WHEREAS. BLEEDING DISORDERS COALITION OF FLORIDA IS AN ADVOCACY ORGANIZATION FOUNDED BY THE HEMOPHILIA FOUNDATION OF GREATER FLORIDA AND THE FLORIDA HEMOPHILIA ASSOCIATION TO BE THE VOICE OF THE FLORIDA BLEEDING DISORDERS COMMUNITY. AND WHEREAS, BLEEDING DISORDERS COALITION OF FLORIDA HAS BEEN SERVING THE BLEEDING DISORDER COMMUNITY TO IMPROVE THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE BY OFFERING PROGRAMS AND SERVICES SUCH AS A MEDICALLY SUPERVISED CAMP, SCHOLARSHIPS, ADVOCACY EFFORTS, EMERGENCY FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE, AND EDUCATION PROGRAMS TO SUPPORT HEALTHIER AND MORE DEPENDENT LIVES. NOW, THEREFORE, I, ROBERT MEDINA, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BY VIRTUE OF SAID AUTHORITY, DO HEREBY DO HEREBY PROCLAIM MARCH 2026 AS HEMOPHILIA AND BLEEDING DISORDERS AWARENESS MONTH. THANK YOU. MAYOR. CONGRATULATIONS, MA'AM. HERE YOU GO. THANK YOU. MAYOR. COUNCIL AND PALM BAY RESIDENTS. MY NAME IS SAMANTHA NAZARIO, AND THIS IS MY SON, TYLER. WE ACCEPT THIS PROCLAMATION ON BEHALF OF THE BLEEDING DISORDER COALITION OF FLORIDA, THE NATIONAL BLEEDING DISORDER FOUNDATION, AND OUR FAMILIA DE SANGRE, ALONG WITH 120 OTHER RARE ILLNESSES. STANDING HERE WITH US TODAY, WE ARE CELEBRATING OUR SEVENTH YEAR PARTNERSHIP WITH PALM BAY. PALM BAY WAS THE FIRST CITY IN BREVARD COUNTY TO EVER DECLARE BLEEDING DISORDER AWARENESS MONTH. IT'S SUCH AN IMPORTANT MILESTONE BECAUSE THIS IS OUR TEN YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF NATIONAL AWARENESS. I SPEAK TO YOU TONIGHT NOT ONLY AS A MOTHER, BUT AS A 2021 NATIONAL ADVOCATE OF THE YEAR. 20 YEARS AGO, AT AGE SIX, TYLER WAS DIAGNOSED WITH VON WILLEBRAND'S DISEASE. WE TURNED OUR FEAR AND AND OUR FEAR AND EXCUSE ME, WE TURNED OUR FEAR INTO COURAGE. AT THE AGE OF 15, TYLER CREATED TEAM TYLER. FOR 11 YEARS, HE HAS LED ADVOCACY WORK BY RAISING OVER $75,000 TO HELP SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITY. IN 2024, WE TOOK THE FIGHT TO D.C. FOR WITH A QUILL FOR CONGRESS TO ENFORCE THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT. THAT SAME YEAR, CONGRESSMAN BILL POSEY SHOWED US WHAT REAL COURAGE LOOKS LIKE. HE WAS THE ONLY REPUBLICAN OUT OF 219 SIGNATURES ON A PETITION TO SIGN THIS ENFORCEMENT OF THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT BEFORE HIS RETIREMENT, SHOWING THAT HIS LIFE'S WORK WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO HIM AND THAT NO, NO CHILD SHOULD BE LEFT BEHIND IN OUR LIFE. CARE IS A MOUNTAIN. ONE DOSE OF MEDICINE FOR TYLER COSTS $15,000. WE KEEP ON HAND $100,000 WORTH OF MEDICATION JUST TO BE ABLE TO MAKE IT TO MY HEMOPHILIA TREATMENT CENTER IN TAMPA. 2.5 HOUR RIDE. THE CDC IS SYSTEMATICALLY BEING DISMANTLED SINCE APRIL OF 2025. THE BLOOD DISORDER DIVISION WAS GUTTED FROM 4333 EXPERTS TO TWO PEOPLE TO PROTECT THE NATION'S BLOOD SUPPLY. THIS CRISIS IS DRAINING OUR STATE. WE ARE LOOKING AT A 50 MILLION CUTS IN HEMOPHILIA TREATMENT CENTERS ALONE. THE VERY CLINICS THAT KEEP OUR PATIENTS ALIVE. BECAUSE OF THIS DISMANTLING, FLORIDA IS ACTUALLY SET TO LOSE $1.2 BILLION. THIS ISN'T A BUDGET LINE. IT'S A COMMUNITY LIFELINE. IT THREATENS THE SAFETY OF EVERY PATIENT IN THIS ROOM. ANYONE FIGHTING LEUKEMIA, CANCER, OR ANY OTHER BLOOD BORNE ILLNESS SUCH AS HIV OR HEPATITIS. WHEN THE WATCHDOGS ARE GONE, WE GAMBLE WITH OUR LIVES. WE REFUSE TO RETURN TO THE TRAGEDIES OF THE 80S AND 90S, SUCH AS THE RICKY RAY AND RYAN WHITE LAWS AND STORIES IN THE 80S AND 90S HEMOPHILIA COMMUNITY LOST 10,000 AMERICANS TO CONTAMINATED BLOOD. THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA LOST AN ADDITIONAL 28,000 AMERICANS THAT WERE GIVEN CONTAMINATED BLOOD. NOW, BECAUSE OF THESE CUTS, 383 CLINICAL TRIALS HAVE BEEN CANCELED OVER TWO DECADES OF RESEARCH AND HOPE STOPPED. THAT LEAVES 74,000 PATIENTS. THAT'S MORE THAN THE RESIDENTS OF MELBOURNE IN THE DARK MARKETPLACE PREMIUMS HAVE JUMPED FROM $30 TO $176 FOR ONE PERSON. THIS IS A HUMAN ISSUE. WE ALL HAVE BLOOD. [00:30:05] WE ALL NEED BLOOD. WE DON'T JUST FIGHT FOR OURSELVES. I FIGHT HERE FOR OUR FAMILIA DE SANGRE ALL OVER THE WORLD, THE FAMILIES IN OUR CITIES AND BEYOND. BECAUSE OF YOUR SUPPORT, WE ENSURE PALM BAY DOES NOT JUST SURVIVE, WE THRIVE. THANK YOU. TYLER. TYLER. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NICE TO MEET YOU. THANK YOU BUDDY. GOOD TO MEET YOU. THANKS FOR COMING. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER. THANK YOU. OKAY. WE ARE NOW ON PUBLIC COMMENTS. DEPUTY MAYOR DOUG HOOK. [PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES:] DOUG HOOK, 1091 MARIPOSA. I'M HERE TONIGHT JUST TO HYPE UP A COUPLE EVENTS THAT I NOTICED WERE HAPPENING HERE IN PALM BAY. FIRST OFF, WE HAVE ON 314. ACTUALLY, WE SAW IT ON THE THE BOARDS THIS WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THE MEETING TODAY. THERE IS AN EVENT AT TURKEY CREEK. CELEBRATE OUR TEACHING KIDS HOW TO WHAT THE BUTTERFLY LIFESTYLE IS, HOW TO GROW GARDEN OR DO GARDENING FOR POLLINATION. FOR THEM, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT EVENT. THAT IS FOR KIDS ARE DESIGNED FOR KIDS AGES 5 TO 10, BUT THEY DO REQUIRE AN ADULT THERE. IF ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC IS INTERESTED IN THAT, CONTACTING TURKEY CREEK AND GETTING ON THE SCHEDULE FOR THAT IS HIGHLY ADVISED AND REQUIRED. ALSO ON 314 AT MRC AT THE LAGOON HOUSE. THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING SOME LOW INCOME, LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT PRACTICES. THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING SOME WEEDING AND SOME GARDENING AROUND THE LAGOON HOUSE AT THEIR RAIN GARDEN AND THEIR NATIVE PLANT GARDEN. AND THEY'RE ALSO LOOKING FOR VOLUNTEERS TO HELP OUT WITH THAT. I'M SIGNED UP TO BE OUT THERE AND SLINGING SOME DIRT WITH THEM. AND ON 328 FROM 10 A.M. TO ONE 11:15 A.M. AT TURKEY CREEK THE SAME KIND OF KID POLLINATOR CLASS THAT IS GOING ON. THEY'RE ACTUALLY DOING ONE FOR ADULTS. SO IF ANYBODY'S INTERESTED IN POLLINATING, FOR GARDENING, FOR POLLINATORS THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE HAPPENING. I'M GOING TO SLIP ON MY SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD HAT REAL QUICK FOR THE LAST MINUTE OF MY COMMENTS. I WANTED TO THANK ROBERT HARDY. HE WAS AT OUR. HE'S A TURKEY CREEK RANGER. HE WAS AT OUR SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD MEETING A COUPLE OF WEEKS BACK. HE HAD A PHENOMENAL, PHENOMENAL PRESENTATION THAT HE DID REGARDING THE INVASIVE SPECIES AT TURKEY CREEK. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND IF ANYBODY IS INTERESTED IN HEARING WHAT HE HAD TO SAY AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING AT TURKEY CREEK. GO BACK ONTO THE CITY'S WEBSITE, PULL UP OUR SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD VIDEO AND WATCH THAT VERY INFORMATIVE, HIGHLY, HIGHLY INFORMATIVE, HIGHLY BENEFICIAL PRESENTATION. AND LASTLY I SPOKE LAST TIME UP HERE. I DID MY PRESENTATION ON THE NATIVE PLANT GARDEN. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I TALKED ABOUT WAS HAVING A FUNDING GAP. I ACTUALLY WANTED TO THANK DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE. HE BROUGHT SOMETHING TO MY ATTENTION THAT LOWE'S IS ACTUALLY DOING A GRANT PROJECT. I HAVE ALREADY SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION FOR THAT. WHAT? I'M HERE TONIGHT TO ASK COUNCIL IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT COULD HELP US POTENTIALLY WITH THAT IS THEY ARE ACTUALLY LOOKING FOR LETTERS OF SUPPORT FROM THE CITY GOVERNMENT. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO VOTE ON TONIGHT. THE DEADLINE FOR THAT LETTER OF SUPPORT, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT IT IS MARCH 20TH. SO I KNOW IF WE WERE TO BRING IT BACK UP THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING, WE'D BE VERY SHORT ON TIME FOR GETTING THAT SUBMITTED. BUT I WOULD APPRECIATE COUNCIL'S SUPPORT IF THEY ARE WILLING TO DO SO. THAT COULD GO A LONG WAY TOWARDS HELPING US GET THAT GRANT FROM LOWE'S. IT IS AN ALTERNATIVE FUNDING SOURCE. IT WOULD BE RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD. THEY HAVE A PRESENCE WITH US AND IT COULD HELP US FINISH UP WHAT LITTLE FUNDING GAP WE HAVE WITH THE PROJECT AND GET IT GOING FOR THERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MR. MORTON WELL, FIRST OF ALL, COUNCIL THUMBS UP ON THAT LETTER OF SUPPORT. OKAY, SO, MR. MORTON I GUESS DRAFTING THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, LETTER OF SUPPORT OR, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD SIGN IT OR THE MAYOR COULD SIGN IT, WHICHEVER WAY. OH, WELL, KENNY, I CAN'T SEE IT. I DON'T HAVE KENNY. DO YOU HAVE A THUMBS UP THERE, KEN? COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON. WELL, I GOT FOUR. I'VE GOT FOUR. SO WITH COUNCIL'S PERMISSION, I'LL DRAFT THE LETTER. SIGN IT ON BEHALF OF THE CITY COUNCIL, WORK WITH MR. HOOK TO PERFECT THE LANGUAGE AND GET THAT TO HIM EARLY THIS NEXT WEEK. THANK YOU, SIR. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. [00:35:03] BILL. BATTEN. IS IS COUNCILMAN JOHNSON ON THE PHONE? MISS TERRY, CAN YOU HEAR ME, SIR? OKAY. CARRY ON. SORRY, SORRY. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST. I HAVE TWO ITEMS TO ADDRESS. ITEM NUMBER ONE, SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETINGS. LAST FRIDAY, THERE WAS A SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING TO DISCUSS THE NON AD VALOREM TAX TO FUND FOR FIREFIGHTING. AN IMPORTANT TOPIC. HOWEVER, ON THE AGENDA WAS A BUSINESS ITEM FOR A SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT. WHEN YOU PROPOSE THIS SANCTION, THERE WAS A FULL HOUSE STANDING ROOM ONLY. BUT FOR THE SETTLEMENT THERE WAS ONLY NINE PEOPLE IN THE CHAMBERS. IT LOOKED LIKE YOU WERE TRYING TO HIDE IT. REMEMBER, IMPACT VERSUS INTENT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR INTENTIONS WERE, BUT I KNOW WHAT THE IMPACT WAS. AS THE PEOPLE THAT SAW IT REMEMBER. IMPACT VERSUS INTENT. ITEM NUMBER TWO. AUSTIN, TEXAS. COPS. GOOD JOB. GOOD TRAINING, GOOD COURAGE AND GOOD SKILLS. I HOPE THE SAME FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY. UNLESS THEY'RE AFTER ME. THANK YOU. BEFORE WE GET TO THE NEXT SPEAKER. MADAM ATTORNEY, WOULD YOU JUST BRIEFLY STATE THE REASON FOR THAT ADDED BUSINESS ITEM? YES, MAYOR. THE ATTORNEYS HAD AGREED THAT THE ITEM WOULD BE PLACED UPON THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, HAD FILED PAPERWORK WITH THE FEDERAL COURT LETTING THEM KNOW THAT THERE WAS A TENTATIVE SETTLEMENT. UNEXPECTEDLY, THE COURT IMMEDIATELY DISMISSED THE CASE, ALTHOUGH WITHOUT PREJUDICE, SO IT DID PUT MORE PRESSURE TO GO AHEAD AND GET THIS PUT ON AN AGENDA AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. I DID NOT WANT TO DO AN AGENDA REVISION BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT LOOKED BAD. SO I DID PUT IT ON THE NEXT REGULAR WELL, THE NEXT AGENDA, WHICH WAS A SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING. THANK YOU MA'AM. NEXT SPEAKER, DEPUTY MAYOR WOODY WOODRUFF. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS. THREE MINUTES TO DO A LITTLE RANT. SAFETY AND QUALITY OF LIFE. THAT'S REALLY WHAT THIS COUNCIL IS ABOUT. AND WHEN YOU RUN A CITY, THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR. BOTH HAVE BEEN DIMINISHED OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. I ASKED THIS COUNCIL TO MEET AND DISCUSS THE FOLLOWING. MOVE THE MAYOR TO A FULL TIME POSITION AND INCREASE HIS SALARY TO THE $250,000 THAT THE CITY MANAGER GETS. RELIEVE THE CITY MANAGER OR MAKE HIM THE MAYOR'S LIAISON. SIMPLE. A VOTE IS ALL THAT'S REQUIRED TO MAKE THIS CHANGE. IT WOULD BE CREATED AS AN ORDINANCE. THE MAYOR WILL THEN MEET WITH ALL DEPARTMENT HEADS AND MAKE CHANGES AS REQUIRED FOR THE BEST PERFORMANCE FROM OUR CITY EMPLOYEES. WITH THE AMOUNT OF RESIDENTIAL HOUSING THAT HAS BEEN BUILT AND MORE THAT'S COMING DOWN THE LINE IN THE NEAR FUTURE, WE BETTER GET READY TO HANDLE IT AND HANDLE IT NOW. WE'RE NOT A LITTLE SLEEPY TOWN ANYMORE. TIME FOR MAJOR CHANGES IS NOW. WE CAN START BY CHANGING OUR ELECTIONS TO PARTIZAN ELECTIONS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER MAYOR CLARITY ON THAT ORDINANCE VERSUS CHARTER. BE NICE TO HEAR FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY ON IT. WOODY, WOULD YOU MIND LISTENING? WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU AN ANSWER, SIR. DO YOU MIND? CARRY ON. MADAM. MADAM ATTORNEY, THAT WOULD REQUIRE A CHANGE TO THE CHARTER. ACTUALLY, IT WAS BRIEFLY DISCUSSED WITH THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE, BUT, YES, THAT WOULD WE'D HAVE TO HAVE A REFERENDUM AND IT WOULD HAVE TO BE VOTED ON. WE'D HAVE TO CHANGE OUR CHARTER IN ORDER TO HAVE A STRONG MAYOR. I READ THE LAW, AND THAT'S WHAT I GOT IN THE CITY. CITY OF IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA CAN MAKE THIS CHANGE WITHOUT A CHARTER CHANGE UNDER A SIMPLE ORDINANCE. THAT'S WHAT I READ IN THE LAW. ALL RIGHT, SIR, THANK YOU. MAY BE WRONG. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. JARED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THAT'S WHY IT'S NOT FOR HIM. [00:40:03] IT'S FOR EVERYONE ELSE. BUT YOU RAN 219 TRENTON AVENUE. PALM BAY. IF IT WOULD NOT BE A GREAT COST. IF THERE COULD BE A DO NOT BLOCK THE INTERSECTION SIGN PLACED AT MINTON AND JUPITER ON THE SOUTH END. AND THEN GO DOWN TO DEGROOT, WHERE YOU MAKE THE LEFT OFF OF JUPITER AND PUT ANOTHER ONE IN THE MIDDLE THERE. I'M TELLING YOU, THE PEOPLE GET JAMMED UP BECAUSE EVERYBODY EXCUSE ME, EVERYBODY COMES AROUND, BLOCKS THE INTERSECTION, THE LIGHT TURNS GREEN TO GO WEST ON JUPITER. TRAFFIC DOESN'T MOVE BECAUSE THE LIGHTS RED AT DEGROOT. AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE MINIMUM COST TO DO THAT. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST. YOU HAVE TO DO A SURVEY OR WHAT, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME IT WOULD JUST BE A MATTER OF GOING OUT THERE AND LOOKING AT THE TRAFFIC. PUT THE SIGN IN THE GROUND, BE DONE WITH IT. AND THE OTHER THING KIND OF BACK ON THE BILL THERE, DID WE EVER GET A, AN ATTORNEY FEE FOR THE CITY TO ADD TO THE TOTAL COST YET, OR IS THAT STILL IN THE WORKS? THAT'S ALL I GOT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO MR. MORTON AND THEN MADAM ATTORNEY, BUT CAN WE HAVE MAYBE. KEVIN. KEVIN'S TEAM LOOK AT AT THAT LOCATION THAT WAS MENTIONED. JUPITER AND DEGROOT. YEAH. WE'LL HAVE PUBLIC WORKS AND PD TAKE A LOOK. OBVIOUSLY, IT'S ALREADY THE LAW NOT TO BLOCK AN INTERSECTION. RIGHT. SO WE'LL LOOK AND SEE IF IT'S POSSIBLE, IF THE UNIFORM TRAFFIC CONTROL MANUAL, IF WE HAVE THE RIGHT DISTANCES, WE'LL WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT IT. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE SUPER SUPERVISOR GOT A LOT GOING ON IN NEXT COUPLE WEEKS. WE'LL DEFINITELY PUT IT ON OUR WORK LIST AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT HERE SHORTLY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM ATTORNEY. I STILL HAVE NOT RECEIVED THE INVOICE IN THE MATTER. THANK YOU MA'AM. NEXT SPEAKER. THAT CONCLUDES THE PUBLIC CLASS. MAYOR. OKAY, SO WE ARE NOW ON CONSENT. DEPUTY MAYOR, ANY COMMENT CARDS? [APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA:] NO, MAYOR. OKAY. COUNCIL, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE? MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT. I'LL SECOND IT. I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN. IS COUNCILMAN JOHNSON STILL ON? CAN I HEAR HIM? YES, MA'AM. I'M HERE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. I ALRIGHT, PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, MADAM SMITH, RESOLUTION 2020 6-04, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, DAY BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, HONORING THE MILITARY VETERANS OF THE UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND DECLARING THE CITY OF PALM BAY A PURPLE HEART CITY, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU MA'AM. WE'RE NOW GOING ON TO PUBLIC HEARINGS. [PUBLIC HEARINGS:] ORDINANCE 2020 6-05, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, VACATING AND ABANDONING A PORTION OF THE SOUTH SIDE 20 FOOT PUBLIC UTILITY AND DRAINAGE EASEMENT LOCATED WITHIN LOT 26, BLOCK 1410, PORT MALABAR. UNIT 30, ACCORDING TO THE PLAT THEREOF AS RECORDED IN PLAT BOOK 17, PAGE 14 OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU MA'AM, I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND DEFER TO MR. MORTON. THANK YOU, HONORABLE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL. THE REQUEST IS FROM MORRIE DOYLE OF W J L LLC, DOING BUSINESS AS W J H LLC. THE REQUEST IS TO VACATE AN EASEMENT. A WELL, A POTABLE WATER WELL WAS PLACED, APPARENTLY INCORRECTLY, WITHIN TEN FOOT OF A REQUIRED A TEN FOOT SEPARATION OF EASEMENT WHEN A 20 FOOT SEPARATION WAS REQUIRED. STAFF AT&T FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT THE MELBOURNE TILLMAN DISTRICT SPECTRUM WHO ALL WOULD HAVE A SAY ON THAT EASEMENT HAVE NO OBJECTIONS TO THE VACATION REQUEST. AND THE STAFF HAS NO OBVIOUS ISSUES OR CONFLICTS THEY IDENTIFIED. WE DO HAVE STAFF HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS IF COUNCIL DESIRES. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? I DON'T SEE ANY FROM COUNCIL. IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? YEAH. WOULD YOU LIKE TO PRESENT YOUR CASE? COME ON UP. YEAH. I'M JOHN BRUNER WITH BRUNER HAGAN REPRESENTING MY CLIENT, AND I WAS THE ONE WHO MADE THE ERROR. BASICALLY GRAPHIC ERROR THAT WE MADE FROM THE START. WE DIDN'T FIND THE ERROR UNTIL THE WELL HAD BEEN SET AND THE HOUSE WAS VIRTUALLY DONE. IT IS IN KIND OF A SITUATION WHERE TYPICALLY ON SIDE YARD DITCHES WHERE THESE RIGHT OF WAYS ARE, [00:45:06] IT IS NOTED AS A TEN FOOT EASEMENT. THE MAJORITY OF THEM IN THE CITY PLATS ARE THAT WAY. STILL NO EXCUSE. I MEAN, WE SIMPLY MISSED THE EASEMENT. WE MADE AN ERROR, AND WE PUT THE WELL IN THE WRONG PLACE. COPY THAT. UNDERSTOOD. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION. MOTION MOVED. GOT A MOTION BY SECOND. I GOT A MOTION AND A THIRD. I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN HAMMOND, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE AND THIRD BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. AYE. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER TWO, MADAM SMITH, ORDINANCE 2026, DASH ZERO FOUR, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE 17, LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, CHAPTER 172 DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCEDURES, SUBCHAPTER PART FOUR ZONING MAP AMENDMENT TO PUD BY MODIFYING THE REQUIREMENT OF A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR PRELIMINARY AND FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATIONS. PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT. HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY. CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE. PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU. I'M OPENING UP THE PUBLIC HEARING, DEFERRING TO MR. MORTON. THANK YOU, HONORABLE MAYOR CITY COUNCIL. I HAVE NOTHING NEW TO ADD ON THIS SECOND READING. NO QUESTIONS OF STAFF, GENTLEMEN I'M GONNA ASK THE MIKE COUNCILMAN HAMMER. THIS IS A LITTLE BIT FOR STAFF AND FOR COUNCIL. I AM GOING TO CONTINUE TO SAY THIS COUNCIL AND THIS STAFF IS NOT GOING TO BE IN THE BUILDING FOREVER. I LIKE THIS. I KNOW RIGHT NOW ONE OF THE BIG THINGS WE NEED TO BE DOING IS HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE DEVELOPER AND MAKING SURE THE DEVELOPER IS DOING THEIR PART BEFORE THEY COME IN THE DOOR. I'M I'M WONDERING HOW WE FEEL ABOUT DOING THIS FOR A YEAR AND SEEING HOW IT WORKS AND THEN BRINGING IT BACK AFTER A YEAR, SEEING HOW COUNCIL AND STAFF FEELS ABOUT THAT. BECAUSE I KNOW THIS STAFF AND I KNOW THIS COUNCIL IS GOING TO BE STUCK ON MAKING SURE THE DEVELOPER IS DOING SOMETHING, BUT I CAN'T PROMISE WHEN I'M IN A MOUNTAIN IN TENNESSEE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING THE SAME THING. COPY THAT. IS THAT DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR QUESTION, SIR? OKAY. I'M STILL GOOD WITH THIS AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, BUT I'LL DEFER TO THE REST OF COUNCIL AND THEN OUR CITY MANAGER. SO I'LL TAKE YOURS FIRST. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. MAYOR. I'M GOOD WITH MOVING FORWARD. THANK YOU. SIR. DEPUTY MAYOR, I APPRECIATE COUNCILMAN HAMMER'S PERSPECTIVE. MOST OF THESE PROCESSES TAKE LONGER THAN A YEAR, AND I DON'T THINK WE'D ACTUALLY SEE THE RESULTS OF WHAT THIS IS GOING TO BE IN A YEAR'S TIME. SO I LIKE THE WAY THE LANGUAGE IS AND CAN APPROVE THE WAY THE ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN. AND COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN. THANK YOU. SIR. WOULD YOU LIKE TO WEIGH IN ON THAT? MR. MORTON, AT THIS TIME OTHER THAN, YOU KNOW, I DID HAVE A VERY PRODUCTIVE CONVERSATION WITH WITH COUNCILMAN. HAMMER DID UNDERSTAND HIS POINT VERY CLEARLY. AND WE DISCUSSED, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY TWO OPTIONS. ONE WAS THE YEAR, WHICH SOUNDS LIKE COUNT, RIGHT? COUNCILMAN NOT INTERESTED IN. WE ALSO DISCUSSED THE OPTION OF JUST PUTTING FORTH A SIMPLE TERMS SHEET, WHICH WE DO NOW TO IDENTIFY ISSUES. THAT DOES TWO THINGS. IT DOESN'T YOU KNOW, STOP OR HINDER THIS PROCESS IF THAT'S COUNCIL'S WISHES, BUT IT WOULD PLACE MANY ISSUES OF RECORD OR SUBSTANCE ON THE RECORD FOR YOU AND THE COMMUNITY TO SEE AND WOULDN'T BE A BIG DEVIATION. SO THAT IS JUST ANOTHER OPTION I'M THROWING OUT THERE THAT COUNCILWOMAN HAMMER AND I DISCUSSED TODAY. THANK YOU. AND STAFF WOULD BE OKAY WITH THAT. THANK YOU SIR. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, WITH THE TERMS SHEET INCLUDED AS CITY MANAGER, MORTON DISCUSSED. GENTLEMEN, CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT AGAIN? MR. MORTON, WITH THE TERM SHEET, LOOKS LIKE ESSENTIALLY IT WOULD BE. IT'D BE A DRAFT. VERY SIMPLE, YOU KNOW, A PAGE OR TWO. AND IT WOULD JUST BE A BEGINNING TO JUST SORT OF DISCLOSE THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS OR THAT WE ARE DISCUSSING GIVES COUNCIL POTENTIALLY AN OPPORTUNITY, [00:50:07] THE PUBLIC OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THAT TERM SHEET AND ADD ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS BEFORE WE START NEGOTIATING THE DA. SO IT'S JUST AGAIN, IT'S JUST AN ADD TO THAT PROCESS IF, IF THAT WAS COUNCIL'S WISHES, I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE A TERM SHEET IS JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE FOR PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. VERY SIMILAR. YES. YOU'RE NOT INCORRECT. I'M NOT GOING TO SECOND THE MOTION. OKAY. MOTION FAILS FOR LACK OF A SECOND. I STILL NEED A MOTION. GENTLEMEN, MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 2020 604. I'LL SECOND IT. I'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON. SEEING NONE. MAYOR. SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. SIGNIFY BY SAYING NAY. PASSES 4 TO 1. WE ARE NOW ON NEW BUSINESS. ITEM NUMBER ONE. MR. [NEW BUSINESS:] MORTON, THANK YOU AGAIN, HONORABLE MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL'S PROPOSAL FOR CONSIDERATION OF AN AGREEMENT WITH STRATEGIC GOVERNMENT RESOURCES FOR AN INTERIM CHIEF PROCUREMENT OFFICER. PROCUREMENT TOUCHES EVERY DEPARTMENT, EVERY PROJECT, EVERY CAPITAL PROJECT, EVERY VENDOR RELATIONSHIP, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, ULTIMATELY, EVERY TAX DOLLAR THAT PASSES THROUGH THE CITY. I THINK WE HAVE A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY RIGHT NOW TO BRING IN AN EXPERIENCED INTERIM CHIEF PROCUREMENT OFFICER TO COMPREHENSIVELY EVALUATE OUR SYSTEM, CORRECT OPERATIONAL CHALLENGES, AND ALIGN OUR FUNCTIONS WITH THE BEST INTERESTS OF OUR DEPARTMENTS, OUR BUSINESS PARTNERS, AND OUR CITIZENS. I DO THINK THIS INTERIM OUTSIDE LEADER BRINGS IN A GREAT PERSPECTIVE AND ISN'T TETHERED TO LOOKING FOR A JOB. SO I THINK WE'D GET A VERY CANDID AND IN-DEPTH ORGANIZATIONAL REEVALUATION. IT DOES ALIGN WITH THE FIVE FISCAL PILLARS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO IMPLEMENT THIS YEAR, INCLUDING FISCAL DISCIPLINE, INFRASTRUCTURE PLANNING, PUBLIC SAFETY, ECONOMIC MOMENTUM, AND ORGANIZATIONAL REFORM. THIS IS A STRATEGIC MOVE, NOT A REACTIONARY MOVE. I DID PROVIDE A COST ANALYSIS FOR YOU FOR THE SIX MONTH PERIOD TERMS AND THE DRAFT CONTRACT. AND OBVIOUSLY I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. I DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I I'M I HAVE A QUESTION, MAYOR. OKAY. GO AHEAD. THANK YOU MAN. SO WHAT WAS THE PROCESS IN IN NARROWING IT DOWN? OR WAS THERE A PROCESS IN NARROWING IT DOWN TO MR. DAVIS FOR THIS POSITION? MY MY COMMENT. YOU KNOW COUNCILMAN JOHNSON MY COMMENT BEFORE YOU WANTED TO ASK, I WAS GOING TO SAY I'M JUST CHECKING THIS GENTLEMAN'S RESUME AND IT IS IMPECCABLE. BUT CARRY ON. WHAT WAS THE PROCESS? IT WAS A VERY SIMPLE PROCESS. KENLEY, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON OF WORKING WITH SDR TO LOOK AT AVAILABLE CANDIDATES. JUST BECAUSE I KNOW THEY ARE A REPUTABLE PROVIDER OF INTERIM APPOINTMENTS. WE HAD SOME RESUMES TO REVIEW STAFF AND I, DOCTOR ROBIN, BRIAN ROBINSON, JASON AND MYSELF REVIEWED THEM. THIS RESUME, OF COURSE, MAYOR TO YOUR POINT, JUMPED OUT AS A EMINENTLY QUALIFIED INDIVIDUAL THAT I THINK WE'RE FORTUNATE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH IF THIS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE. AND SO WE LANDED ON THAT AND BROUGHT THAT FORWARD AS A DISCUSSION ITEM TO COUNCIL. DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU, MR. MORTON. JUST WANTED TO ALSO HIGHLIGHT TO MY COLLEAGUES, THESE THIS GENTLEMAN RETIRED FROM THE UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS AS A MAJOR AS WELL. COUNCILMAN HAMMER. I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND EVERYBODY WE ARE DOING A DOGE, AND I THINK HAVING THIS INFLUENCE HERE IS GOING TO BE GREAT, BECAUSE DOGE ISN'T JUST FOR MONEY, IT'S FOR OPERATIONS. AND THIS GUY HAS THE EXPERIENCE TO COME IN AND SAY, YOU KNOW, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING THAT ARE ADDING TO 4 OR 7 STEPS. EVEN HAVING A SEPARATE FINANCE AND PROCUREMENT DEPARTMENT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT HE WOULD THINK IS A LITTLE MUCH. I, I LIKE HAVING SOMEBODY THAT HAS THE EXPERIENCE HE DOES. HIS RESUME IS IMPECCABLE. I. BEING INVOLVED IN PROCUREMENT FOR THE CITY, I KNOW HOW HOW EXTREME IT IS. I KNOW HOW DIFFICULT IT CAN BE. I KNOW AT ONE POINT WE HADN'T TOUCHED OUR PROCUREMENT SINCE 1995. WE WERE STILL GETTING GETTING APPROVALS FOR SOMETHING AT FIVE, 500, $2,000. YOU HAD TO GET APPROVAL FOR SOMEBODY TO SPEND 2500 BUCKS. SO I KNOW HOW MUCH OUR PROCESS HAS GROWN IN THE LAST PROBABLY DECADE, BUT I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE SOMEBODY WITH THE KNOWLEDGE HE DOES SIT DOWN AT A DESK HERE. THANK YOU. AND I HAVE TO ECHO, I HAVE TO COMMEND YOUR COMMENTS STATE [00:55:03] PROCUREMENT DIRECTOR FOR THE STATE OF INDIANA, CPO FOR THE STATE OF TEXAS, AND SO ON. I THINK OUR COMMUNITY IS BLESSED TO HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY WITH SOMEONE THAT COULD LOOK IN AND OPERATIONALLY SEE THE BENEFIT OF HOW WE COULD MOVE FORWARD AND AND CONDENSE THINGS AROUND. SO I'M, I'M REALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS AS WELL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN? I NEED ANY SPEAKER CARDS? NO. MAYOR. OKAY. I NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED. SECOND. I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN HAMMER, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JAFFEE OR DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE. AS YOU WERE DEPUTY MAYOR. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. AYE. PASSES FIVE ZERO. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER TWO. NEW BUSINESS. EXCUSE ME, GENTLEMEN, BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS, I. IF I CAN, SIR, SIR, YOU'RE OUT OF ORDER. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER TWO, MR. MORTON. THANK YOU. MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL. WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO CONSIDER THE BRIDGE DESIGN AT THE C7 CANAL CROSSING FROM SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARK TO OR SAINT JOHN'S PARKWAY. EXCUSE ME, TO FRED POPPY PARK. AND I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND ASK OUR TEAM THAT'S PRESENTING THIS ITEM TONIGHT TO COME ON UP. WE'RE ASKING OR LOOKING FOR COUNCIL DIRECTION ON WHETHER TO PROCEED. PROCEED WITH THE CURRENTLY DESIGNED FOUR LANE CONCRETE STEEL BRIDGE OR LOOK AT CONTINUE TO LOOK AT ALTERNATIVE METHODS. AND SO ASKING STAFF KEVIN AND MISS SULLIVAN, THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU, MR. MORTON. KEVIN BRINKLEY, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR I'M PRESENTING THIS ITEM TO YOU TONIGHT BECAUSE AS THE CITY MANAGER MENTIONED, WE ARE SEEKING DIRECTION ON HOW TO PROCEED. A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND FOR ANYONE WHO HAS ATTENDED ONE OF THE FANTASTIC EVENTS THAT THE RECREATION DEPARTMENT DOES AT FRED PARK YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THE ONLY WAY IN OR OUT IS CHAMPIONSHIP CIRCLE COMING OFF OF MALABAR. SO IN 2022, WE ASKED KIMLEY-HORN, ONE OF OUR THIRD PARTY VENDORS, TO RECOMMEND A ROAD AND BRIDGE THAT WOULD CONNECT SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY TO CHAMPIONSHIP CIRCLE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PARK. SO WE'D HAVE TWO ACCESS POINTS IN 2024. WE GAVE THEM THE NOTICE TO PROCEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DESIGN OF THE APPROVED SCOPE, WHICH INCLUDED APPROXIMATELY 1300 LINEAR FEET OF ROADWAY, LIGHTING AND STORMWATER POND MODIFICATIONS, SIDEWALK AND MULTI-USE PATH CONSTRUCTION, INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS AT SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY, AND THE DESIGN OF A FOUR LANE BRIDGE STRUCTURE ACROSS THE C7 CANAL, WHICH IS A MELBOURNE TILLMAN CANAL. THROUGH 2025, THEY WERE WORKING ON THE DESIGN OF THAT BRIDGE. AND THE. IN 2025, THE PROJECT WAS PAUSED TO CONSIDER AN ALTERNATIVE BRIDGE MATERIAL. SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE TODAY. THE STAFF, THE PACKET THAT YOU HAVE INCLUDES STAFF RESEARCH AND ANALYSIS OF THE ALTERNATIVE BRIDGE MATERIAL. AND WE'RE AT THE POINT WHERE WE'RE SEEKING COUNCIL DIRECTION ON WHETHER TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A THE ALTERNATIVE MATERIAL OR TO CONTINUE WITH THE CURRENT DESIGN OF THE BRIDGE AS IT IS. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY SPEAKER CARDS, DEPUTY MAYOR BILL BATTEN AND COUNCIL. I'M SURE YOU'LL HAVE QUESTIONS. I HAVE A QUESTION AFTER MAYOR. OKAY, WELL, I'VE GOT SOME OR. MR. CHIEF BATTEN, I ALMOST SAID INDUCTED HIM INTO THE ARMY, CALLING HIM SERGEANT MAJOR. MASTER CHIEF? BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST. I HAVE SEVEN ITEMS TO ADDRESS ON THIS ITEM. NUMBER ONE, THE BRIDGE TO FRED POPPY PARK. IT'S BEEN A LONG AND WINDING ROAD TO GET NOWHERE SO FAR. ITEM NUMBER TWO. THIS STARTED OUT AS A $1 MILLION GRANT THAT WE APPLIED FOR FOR CAMPGROUND, WHICH WE HAD TO GIVE BACK BECAUSE WE FAILED TO MEET OUR COMMITMENTS, WHICH MADE THE CITY OF PALM BAY LOOK BAD. ITEM NUMBER THREE. THE BRIDGE PROPOSAL STARTED OUT AT $2.5 MILLION. IT THEN JUMPED TO $4 MILLION. AND THE LAST REPORT I JUST LOOKED ON, THIS ONE IS NOW AT $6 MILLION. $6 MILLION JUST TO DROP TO STOP TRAFFIC JAMS COMING OUT OF THE PARK. THAT'S MORE THAN WE SPEND FOR REPAIRING OUR ROADS FOR DAILY TRAFFIC MOVEMENT. ITEM NUMBER FOUR. HOW MUCH HAS THIS PROJECT COST TO THIS POINT? WITH NOTHING TO SHOW FOR IT EXCEPT PAPER? ITEM NUMBER FIVE TAKING MONEY FROM NEXUS THREE TWO 908. WHEN THE PARK IS LOCATED IN THREE TWO 907, ONE OF THE FASTEST GROWING AREAS IN PALM BAY. [01:00:06] THAT'S LIKE SAYING WHEN I TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, THEY SAY, YEAH, WELL, THE BORDER BETWEEN 329 AND THREE TWO, 907 ARE THE SAME. WELL, THAT'S LIKE SAYING THE BORDER BETWEEN RUSSIA AND UKRAINE MAKE IT THE SAME COUNTRY. ITEM NUMBER SIX. THE MONEY FROM THREE, TWO 908 COULD GO TOWARDS A PROFESSIONAL BMX TRACK IN THE COMPOUND, WHICH WOULD HELP PROMOTE THE AREA. BUT INSTEAD, WE WILL DO NOTHING IN THE AREA AND THE AND KEEP THE COMPOUND AS A TRASH AND BODY DUMP AREA FOR THE CITY. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. THAT CONCLUDES MAYOR. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, YOU HAD A QUESTION. YES, MA'AM. I'M ACTUALLY WITH MISTER BATON ON THIS ONE. MY MY FIRST QUESTION IS, HOW MUCH HAVE WE SPENT UP TO THIS POINT? AND THE REASON BEING I'M ASKING THIS. MY SECOND QUESTION IS, OUTSIDE OF SPECIAL EVENTS LIKE THE FAMILY CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA, HOW MUCH TRAFFIC FLOW ARE WE EXPERIENCING IN FRED POPPY PARK TO JUSTIFY MOVING FORWARD. INITIALLY I WAS ALL FOR IT, BUT WITH THE PRICE TAG WHERE IT'S AT I'M MORE ON THE LINES OF TAKING A PAUSE. SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE NUMBERS OF HOW MUCH TRAFFIC FLOW IS GOING IN AND OUT OF RED POPPY PARK ON AVERAGE, WHETHER IT'S A MONTHLY BASIS OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, TO JUSTIFY SPENDING THIS AMOUNT. BECAUSE AT THIS POINT I, I HAVE A HARD TIME SUPPORTING ALLOCATING 6 MILLION FOR THE BRIDGE OR A WOODEN BRIDGE THAT COULD BE A CATASTROPHE WITHIN WHO KNOWS HOW LONG. I SEE ALL THE CONCERNS STAFF HAS PUT IN REGARDS TO WOODEN BRIDGES WITH THE MAINTENANCE AND THEM BEING FIRE HAZARDS OF THAT NATURE AND THE HEAVY TRAFFIC FLOW. THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE NOT BUILT FOR THAT. SO IF WE WERE TO MOVE FORWARD, IT WILL HAVE TO BE THE ORIGINAL BRIDGE. BUT I'M NOT FOR MOVING FORWARD AT THIS TIME. UNLESS THE DATA CAN SHOW AND SUPPORT THE NEED FOR IT WITH THE TRAFFIC FLOW IN AND OUT OF THE PARK. OKAY. WHOO! MR. MORTON, WE'LL HAVE STAFF COME UP AND ADDRESS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS. YOU KNOW, I WANT TO BE CLEAR. I'M NOT KICKING THE CAN OR THE BUCK. THIS IS A LEGACY PROJECT TO YOUR GUYS'S POINT. IT STARTED LONG BEFORE I THINK ANY OF THE STAFF. MAYBE. EXCEPT FOR CHRISTINE HERE TONIGHT ADDRESSING IT HAD ANYTHING TO DO. SO IT'S REALLY WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT. TO LOOK FOR DIRECTION AND DISCUSS THOSE OPTIONS. I KNOW KEVIN DOES DOES HAVE SOME DATA HERE FOR US TO ANSWER SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS. I THANK YOU, MISTER MORTON. I'VE TRIED TO MAKE AS MANY NOTES AS POSSIBLE. IF I DON'T ADDRESS ALL THE QUESTIONS, PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT I FOLLOW UP ON ANY OF THEM THAT I'VE MISSED. AS FAR AS THE EXPENSE FOR THE BRIDGE TO MR. BARTON'S POINT, IT IS TRUE THAT THE ORIGINAL ESTIMATED COST OF 2.5 MILLION HAS INCREASED. A LOT OF IT IS DUE TO THE ADDITION. WE DID ADD A 48 INCH PIPE FOR STORMWATER SIDEWALK THICKNESS INCREASING FROM 4IN TO 6IN. AND THE, THE, THE, FOR INSTANCE, THE COST OF UNIT COSTS, LIKE THE PPI ON, ON CONCRETE HAS INCREASED BY I THINK 30% IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS JUST ON, ON THE COST OF CONCRETE. SO A LOT OF THE COST OF THE ACTUAL BRIDGE ITSELF HAS DESIGNED HAS NOT INCREASED BY THAT MUCH. BUT THE OVERALL PROJECT INCLUDES A QUARTER OF A MILE OF ROADWAY NUMEROUS SIDEWALKS YOU KNOW, INTO THE PARK AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THOSE COSTS HAVE ACTUALLY SWELLED PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY OVER THAT TIME. MR. BATTEN ASKED ABOUT THE AMOUNT SPENT TO DATE. I HAVE $435,000. IS THE NUMBER SOMEBODY WILL THROW SOMETHING IF I'M OKAY. SO 435, ROUGHLY $435,000 SPENT TO DATE FOR THE DESIGN SERVICES OF THE BRIDGE. AND AS FAR AS THE TIF ASSIGNMENTS, THAT'S SOMETHING I WOULD THINK I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. FOR THAT QUESTION, WHEN HE WAS ASKING ABOUT THE TIF, I THINK ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WERE MEANING THE TRAFFIC COMING OUT OF THE PARK FOR SPECIAL EVENTS. I'M NOT SURE YOU'RE QUALIFIED TO RESPOND TO THAT OR PD. I'M NOT SURE IF YOU DID A STUDY ON THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE. I DON'T HAVE TRAFFIC DATA WITH ME. KIMLEY-HORN IS ACTUALLY HERE, SO THEY MAY BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT. SO THANK YOU. WELL, I'M JUST TRYING TO FOCUS ON WHAT COUNCILMAN JOHNSON ASKED. CARRY ON SIR. GOOD EVENING. MATTHEW GILLESPIE KIMLEY-HORN TWO ON SOUTH ORANGE AVENUE, SUITE 600, ORLANDO, FLORIDA. I DID NOT BRING THE TRAFFIC STUDY WITH ME FOR THIS, BUT I WILL SAY THAT IN THE DESIGN OF THE BRIDGE AND THE OTHER ACCESS POINT, ONE OF THE THE NUMBER ONE PURPOSES WAS TO ALLEVIATE THE BACKUP OF TRAFFIC DOWN CHAMPION CIRCLE AND MALABAR ROAD. [01:05:05] WHEN EVENTS DO OCCUR THE ADDING THE THE MAIN ROADWAY, WHICH IS PLANNED TO BE A FOUR LANE ROAD, IS PLANNED TO BE THE NEW DEDICATED LIKE MAIN ENTRANCE TO THE PARK. RIGHT NOW THAT ROADWAY EVEN CHAMPIONS CIRCLE IT GOES OUT TO MALABAR IS NOT EVEN OWNED BY THE CITY. IT IS ACTUALLY A EASEMENT THAT IS GRANTED FOR ACCESS. SO THIS WOULD BE PROVIDING A PERMANENT FULL RIGHT OF WAY TO A MAJOR FOUR LANE ROAD THAT'S PLANNED FOR IMPROVEMENTS. THE TRAFFIC MOVEMENT IS DRASTICALLY IMPROVED WITH HAVING THE TWO POINTS OF ACCESS FOR SAFETY AND LIFE, SAFETY AND EMERGENCY SERVICES, SO THE MALABAR ROAD ENTRANCE WOULD BE THE BACKUP, WITH THE SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE BEING THE PRIMARY ACCESS AFTER THE ROADWAY IS BUILT. AND WE'RE BUILDING IT FOR FOUR LANES FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT AND IMPROVEMENTS, ADDING MORE EVENTS, MORE FEATURES. MY FIRM ALSO, WE DID THE MASTER PLANNING FOR FRED POPPY AS WELL FOR PLANNING OTHER FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS WITHOUT THAT ROADWAY CONNECTING TO SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE, THE ANY ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT THE PARK IS REALLY GOING TO BE HINDERED. SO COPY THAT. YEAH. I'VE GOT I'VE GOT OTHER QUESTIONS, SO I'M NOT SURE IF THEY'LL PERTAIN TO YOU, BUT COUNCILMAN HAMMER WAS FIRST O AS YOU WERE. COUNCILMAN HAMMER. COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON. DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR QUESTION, SIR? YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. OKAY. COUNCILMAN HAMMER? YEAH? WHILE WE'RE IN HERE, I JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY ORIGINALLY WHAT THE INTENTION OF PALM BAY EVEN GETTING FRED POPPY PARK WAS WHEN WE GOT FRED POPPY PARK FROM THE COUNTY, IT WAS FRED POPPY PARK, THE POOL AND THE SENIOR CENTER THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO ALL BE COVERED BY THE ROI THAT WE GOT IN FROM THE RV PARK. SO WHEN THAT RV PARK WENT AWAY, WE LOST THE POTENTIAL FOR ALL THE ROI FROM THE RV PARK. SO NOW WE HAVE MOVED NOT ONLY FRED POPPY, BUT THE SENIOR CENTER AND THE POOL INTO SOMETHING THAT THE CITY'S PAYING FOR WITHOUT THE ROI OF THE RV PARK THAT WE PLANNED ON. SO ME, MYSELF, I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO LOOK BACK INTO BRINGING THAT RV PARK BACK, BECAUSE THAT WAS THE ROI THAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE TO PAY FOR THESE THINGS THAT WE NO LONGER HAVE. SO I WOULD I LIKE THIS IDEA, BUT THIS WAS ALL SUPPOSED TO COME FROM THE MONEY FROM THE RV PARK, AND HERE WE ARE TRYING TO BUILD IT WITH. I MEAN, YEAH, WE HAVE WE HAVE IMPACT FEES, BUT WE HAD PROFIT COMING IN TO PALM BAY TO PAY FOR ALL THIS THING, ALL THESE THINGS, AND WE NO LONGER DO. SO I'M, I'M TRYING TO SEE WHERE WE CAN GO FROM HERE BECAUSE WE HAD A TAKEAWAY AND WE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO PUT IT BACK. OKAY, SO I'M HEARING YOU, BUT LET ME JUST WEIGH IN ON SOMETHING THAT COUNCILMAN JOHNSON SAID. ASIDE FROM ONE EVENT. BUT IF YOU'RE AT THE PARK AND I CAN'T TELL YOU ABOUT TRAFFIC STUDIES, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT WHEN IT'S SOCCER SEASON, WHEN WHEN THEY'RE TOURNAMENTS OUT THERE FOR SOFTBALL AND BASEBALL, THAT CREATES THOSE TRAFFIC JAMS AND THE OPPORTUNITY FOR GROWTH. THIS IS WHY WE WERE GOING DOWN THIS RANGE. IT'S JUST NOT THOSE SPECIAL EVENTS. IT'S THE EVERYDAY USE OR WEEKEND USE, EVEN FOOTBALL. SO THOSE THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO ALWAYS CONSIDER. HOW ARE WE GOING TO INCREASE THAT USAGE? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE KIDS ON WAITING LISTS TO TRY AND PLAY SPORTS WITHIN OUR WITHIN OUR CITIES BECAUSE OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IN AND OF ITSELF. SO IF WE COULD TURN AROUND THESE TOURNAMENTS. THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS, GENTLEMEN, BUT I WANT US TO GET BACK ON THE REASON WHY WE WENT DOWN THIS PATH. YOU GUYS WANT TO SWITCH THEN? I AGREE, WHEN DEPUTY MAYOR SAID, HEY, WAIT A MINUTE, WHY DON'T WE LOOK AT AT THE COST OF A WOODEN BRIDGE? A WOODEN BRIDGE MAY LOOK GREAT. YOU KNOW, WE DID. WE DID THE EXERCISE. DEPUTY MAYOR AND I. I'M GRATEFUL FOR YOU TO BRING IT UP, BECAUSE IT WAS A GOOD EXERCISE. IT REALLY WAS IN IN THAT IN THAT WHOLENESS OF OF TRYING TO SEE WHERE WE COULD ACTUALLY MAKE THIS WORK. THE REASON I DON'T THINK IT WORKS AT THIS TIME, EVEN THOUGH THE EXERCISE WAS TIME CONSUMING, IS BECAUSE A WOODEN BRIDGE MAY NOT BE THE SOLUTION. WHEN WE'RE CONTINUING TO GROW AS A CITY, WE HAVE JUVENILES OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER. [01:10:04] WHEREAS A WOODEN BRIDGE WOULDN'T FIT. EVEN THOUGH IT MAY BE A LOT MORE COSTLY TO KIND OF KEEP UP THE MAINTENANCE ON THOSE. SO THOSE WERE MY CONCERNS. BUT I LOVE THE EXERCISE THAT WE DID AS A BODY. MY MY WHOLE THING, GENTLEMEN, IS GROWING. HOW ARE WE GOING TO GROW THAT PART RIGHT ALONG? WHAT YOU'RE SAYING INCREASING OR BRINGING BACK OR TRYING TO BRING BACK CAMPGROUNDS. KEEP IN MIND THERE'S A CAMPGROUNDS THAT'S GOING ACROSS THE STREET, SUPPOSEDLY. RIGHT. AND AND IT'S IT'S SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN. SO I'M NOT SURE THAT WOULD BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY. AND RIGHT NOW I DON'T THINK THE FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE FOR THE TDC THAT WE GAVE BACK. SO THOSE ARE THOUGHTS THAT WE ALWAYS NEED TO CONSIDER IS HOW DO WE CREATE THAT ROADWAY AND MAKE IT SAFE AS THE PARK CONTINUES TO GROW. GENTLEMEN, IT'S NOT THE PARK OF TEN YEARS AGO. NOW I SEE. AND I DON'T LIVE SO FAR FROM THERE. BUT I SEE SEVERAL ACTIVITIES, NOT JUST SPECIAL EVENTS. SO I'M GOING TO GO NOW TO COUNCILMAN OR DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE. AND THEN AFTER THAT, COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN. THANK YOU. MAYOR. YOU KNOW, I KNOW IT SOUNDS WEIRD TALKING ABOUT A WOOD BRIDGE. AND THE REASON WHY I BROUGHT THE IDEA OF A WOODEN BRIDGE UP IS BECAUSE I'VE BUILT TIMBER BRIDGES. I'VE BUILT TIMBER BENCHES ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, AND THEY'RE NOT AS COMMON IN FLORIDA AS THEY ARE IN OTHER STATES. BUT THIS IS A VEHICULAR DESIGN BRIDGE WITH A CAPACITY THAT CAN HOLD 80,000 POUNDS. I BUILT THE BRIDGE AT UNIVERSAL STUDIOS THAT HAD 20 CEMENT TRUCKS PARKED ON IT AND 81,000 POUND EXCAVATOR ON BOTH ENDS. AND THE BRIDGES ARE WELL DESIGNED, WELL ENGINEERED AND ABOUT A THIRD OF THE PRICE OF A STRUCTURAL CONCRETE OR PRECAST BRIDGE, WHICH GOING BACK TO THE TASK ORDER SAYING THAT THE STAFF AT THE TIME WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CONCRETE STEEL BRIDGE. WHEN I LOOKED AT THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS AND IT'S A PRECAST CAST IN PLACE STRUCTURE, SO I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE FROM KIMLEY-HORN WHETHER THAT MYTHOLOGY WAS WAS USED AND IF COUNCIL AS A HARD NO ON ON A TIMBER BRIDGE. IS THERE A WAY TO MODIFY THE DESIGN OF THE BRIDGE NOW TO A TWO LANE STRUCTURE WITH THE ABILITY TO EXPAND IT TO A FOUR LANE IN THE FUTURE? I'VE BUILT BRIDGES IN NORTH PORT IN PORT CHARLOTTE IN THIS FASHION, WHERE YOU GO AHEAD AND AND PUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE PILINGS AND THE PRECAST PILOT CAPS IN WITH THE ABILITY TO FLY BOX BEAMS IN LATER TO EXPAND THE WIDTH OF THE BRIDGE. BUT, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE DESIGN OF THE BRIDGE NOW, IT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU'D SEE ON I-95. THIS THING IS STOUT. IT IS STOUT, AND I PERSONALLY DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE $2.4 MILLION ENGINEERS ESTIMATE IS ACCURATE. I BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO BE WELL OVER 5 OR $6 MILLION WHEN WE'RE ALL SAID AND DONE. SO I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM KIMLEY-HORN ON ON WHY A CONCRETE STEEL BRIDGE WASN'T DESIGNED AND HOW COMFORTABLE THEY FEEL WITH THEIR ENGINEERS. ESTIMATE. OKAY. OKAY. SO THE DESIGN, ORIGINALLY, WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROJECT STAFF HAD CHANGED FROM WHEN WE FIRST STARTED TO WHERE WE ARE NOW. FRANK USED TO BE THE CITY ENGINEER AT THE TIME WE PRESENTED THE SPAN THAT WE HAD TO SPAN THE CANAL. AND DURING THOSE TIME PERIODS, WE HAD DISCUSSED KIND OF DIFFERENT BRIDGES, WHETHER WE WERE DOING A SLAB OR I-BEAM SLAB FLOOR SLAB, LIKE DIFFERENT GEOMETRIES FOR THEM. WE PRESENT A FEW DIFFERENT COSTS. LIKE ON A COST PER SQUARE FOOT BASIS. THE A WOOD BRIDGE WAS NOT CONSIDERED AT THAT TIME. WE HAD NOT DONE ANY WOOD BRIDGES. THERE DOESN'T EXIST ANY WOOD BRIDGES OVER ANY OF THE CANALS THAT ARE OUT HERE FOR VEHICULAR CROSSINGS AND BEING THIS CLOSE. WELL, THE CANADIAN ENVIRONMENTAL, THE STAFF HAD NEVER ASKED US TO LIKE NO ONE CONSIDERED A WOODEN BRIDGE POINT BLANKLY. EVERYBODY SAID WE WANT A DOT STANDARD BRIDGE. WE WANT A DESIGN DOT STANDARDS. SO THAT WAS THE DIRECTION WE WENT WITH AS GUIDANCE FROM STAFF. AND WE DID, YOU KNOW, THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS OF DOT BRIDGES, WHICH THE WOOD ONE WAS NOT ONE. SO WE PRESENTED THE DIFFERENT ONES. THE COST PER SQUARE FOOT, THE CHEAPEST CAME TO THE DESIGN THAT WE HAVE IN THE PLANS ALSO COORDINATION WITH MELBOURNE TILLMAN WATER CONTROL DISTRICT. THE DESIGN WAS REQUESTED TO MINIMIZE COLUMNS AND SUPPORTS IN CANAL C7, [01:15:02] SO A CONSIDERATION OF A SMALLER BRIDGE OR WOOD BRIDGE WITH NO MORE PILINGS IN THE CANAL WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT WAS ON THE TABLE. WE PRESENTED THE CONCRETE BRIDGE TO MELBOURNE TILLMAN, ORIGINALLY WITH MORE COLUMNS IN THE CANAL THAT WOULD REDUCE THE BEAM HEIGHTS FOR THE SPANS. MELBOURNE. TILLMAN REQUESTED ONLY COLUMNS AT THE TOE OF THE SLOPES, SO ONLY TWO THAT WE COULD PUT IN. SO THEN THE BRIDGE COSTS INCREASED, THE BEAMS INCREASE IN DEPTH BECAUSE IT SPANS GOT LONGER. SO WE WENT THROUGH ALL THIS PROCESS OVER A SIX MONTH PERIOD OF TIME ROUGHLY, AND WE ARRIVED AT THE DESIGN THAT WE HAVE NOW. THE COST NUMBERS IS BASED ON FDOT HISTORIC AVERAGES. PRICE OF CONCRETE STEEL QUANTITIES. WE DID PUT TOGETHER A DETAILED ESTIMATE USING FDOT LAST SIX MONTH AVERAGES FOR COSTS. SO DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? NO. IS THAT THAT PRICING BASED ON LIKE A POSTAGE STAMP SITE LIKE THIS WITH THE ONE OFF BRIDGE, OR IS THAT PRICING BASED OFF OF A LARGE EXPANSION OF HIGHWAY THAT HAS A LOT OF BRIDGE WORK, WHERE EQUIPMENT'S ALREADY MOBILIZED? BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO REQUIRE A VERY LARGE CRANE WITH A DIESEL DIESEL HAMMER ON IT, WHICH I THINK ABOUT A YEAR TO TO BUILD THIS PARTICULAR BRIDGE. I'M JUST REALLY HAVING A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING THE MATH. AT $2.5 MILLION, TIMBER BRIDGE COULD BE BUILT IN ABOUT EIGHT WEEKS. AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S LIKE THAT'S THE SOLUTION HERE. I JUST AND JUST JUST SOMETHING I BROUGHT UP IN A IN A TIMBER BRIDGE CAN FREE SPAN 100FT, YOU KNOW. AND SO THE CURRENT DESIGN OF THIS BRIDGE IS 100FT. SO YOU WOULD HAVE A VERY SIMILAR PILING SETUP AS THE, THE PRECAST STRUCTURE. AND ALTHOUGH FLORIDA DOES NOT RECOGNIZE TIMBER BRIDGES AS A DOT, IT IS DESIGNED TO A DOT SPEC WITH GUARDRAILS, HANDRAILS, VEHICULAR CAPACITY, WEIGHT, AND IT'S ALL HEAVILY TREATED. TREATED TIMBER FOR FOR ROT, DECAY, MOISTURE. I'VE DONE WOODBRIDGE AS WELL. SO I'M. I AM NOT THE STRUCTURAL ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT. TO BE CLEAR, I AM THE CIVIL ENGINEER, SO I'M SPEAKING FOR THEM. I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, RALPH. THE TOP OF MY HEAD ABOUT WHAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE COST, OTHER THAN THAT WAS THE THE BASIS FOR THE COST NUMBERS. I HAVE TO GET BACK WITH THEM TO SEE IF ANYTHING OF ANY ADDITIONAL COST CONSIDERATIONS FOR THOSE ITEMS WERE DONE. REGARDING YOUR QUESTION ABOUT IF THE BRIDGE COULD BE BUILT AS A TWO LANE NOW, YES, IT COULD BE, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE DIRECTED. THE REQUEST FROM PREVIOUS STAFF WAS LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO A FOUR LANE BRIDGE BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT TO COME BACK LATER AND SPEND ANY MORE MONEY LATER. SO WE WOULD PUT THE BRIDGE IN NOW FOR THE FOUR LANE, AND WE WOULD STRIP IT DOWN FOR LESS LANES, SO WE WOULD NOT HAVE TO SPEND MORE MONEY COMING IN AT A LATER TIME TO MOBILIZE MORE CREWS, MORE EQUIPMENT TO DO IT. SO THAT WAS THE REQUEST AT THE TIME THAT WE DELIVERED WHAT STAFF'S REQUEST WAS. SO YOU'RE STATING THAT THE BRIDGE WILL ACTUALLY BE DESIGNED AS A FOUR LANE, BUT ITS INITIAL USE WILL BE AS A TWO LANE? YES. THE STRIPING, IT IS STRIPED WITH LESSER LANES BECAUSE UNTIL SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY WIDENING PROJECT IS COMPLETED, WE DON'T HAVE THE INCOMING OUTBOUND LANES THAT ARE NEEDED. THE GEOMETRY, THE ROADWAY CAN'T ACCOMMODATE IT. SO UNTIL THAT PROJECT IS DONE, THEN IT WOULD BE RESTRIPED TO A FULL FOUR LANE ACCESS. THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN THE PLAN. WHEN IS THAT ROAD GOING TO BE DONE? SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD WHEN IT WAS SEVERAL YEARS. IT WAS IT WAS IN DESIGN RECENTLY AND I DON'T I DON'T EVEN THINK IT'S FUNDED. RIGHT. THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE IS NOT CURRENTLY FUNDED. GET ON. GET ON THE MIC. I'M SORRY. KEVIN. DESIGN IS AT 60%. CONSTRUCTION PHASE IS NOT FULLY FUNDED. OKAY. DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR QUESTION? THANKS, MAYOR. COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN. ALL RIGHT. SO MY QUESTION IS, SO I THINK COUNCILMAN JOHNSON BROUGHT UP SOME GOOD POINTS. WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I THINK EVERYBODY BROUGHT UP REALLY GOOD POINTS. AND SO BUT COUNCILMAN JOHNSON BROUGHT UP SOME GOOD POINTS. SO, SO MY QUESTION IS EITHER TO THE CITY MANAGER OR TO KEVIN. YOU KNOW, WHOEVER WANTS TO ANSWER BEST IS WITH US GOING INTO A DODGE. AND NOW YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A LITTLE BIT AND UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING GOING ON IN THE CITY. LIKE, IS THIS THE PROJECT THAT YOU GUYS ARE COMFORTABLE WITH AND YOU WANT TO SPEND THE MONEY ON FIRST AND FOREMOST? TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, I ACTUALLY THESE FUNDS ARE PARKS FUNDS SO I DON'T I WOULD NOT FEEL. I WOULD NOT FEEL THERE ARE PARKS IN PARKS, FEES, FUNDS. SO I WOULD NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE ANSWERING FOR PARKS. I CAN WEIGH IN, I MEAN, AND THAT'S THE POINT. WE'RE HERE TONIGHT. THAT'S THE WHOLE REASON WE'RE HERE. WE'RE 95% COMPLETE IN DESIGN. AND I THINK THE REASONS YOU HEARD, THAT'S WHERE WE WANTED COUNCIL TO WEIGH IN. I MEAN, IT'S GOING TO LIMIT PARK EXPANSION NOW AND INTO THE FUTURE. IT'S GOING TO LIMIT THE PARK [01:20:01] EXPANSION PLAN. IT DOES CREATE BOTTLENECKS. AND, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT'S THIS HAS BEEN ONGOING FOR A LONG TIME. AND WE'RE HERE TO WEIGH AND SEE WHAT COUNCIL WANTS TO DO. CONCRETE BRIDGE WOULD BRIDGE NO BRIDGE. AND I THINK I THINK YOU GUYS ARE HITTING THE RIGHT DISCUSSION. WE CAN BRING IT BACK. IF YOU GUYS NEED MORE TIME TO THINK OR NEED MORE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, TO THE NEXT MEETING. BUT WE DON'T KNOW. YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO DODGE EFFORT. THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. WE ALSO HAVE IMPACT FEES TO SPEND AND AND PROJECTS TO COMPLETE TO, TO GROW A CITY. SO WE'RE REALLY HERE FOR COUNCIL DIRECTION. YOU KNOW, MR. HAMMER BROUGHT UP THE RV RESORT OR PARK. AND SO THERE'S BEEN ALL THESE ITERATIONS AND IDEAS OVER THE YEARS, AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO REFRESH WHERE WE'RE AT AND WHERE COUNCIL WANTS TO GO, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK STAFF HAS A YOU KNOW, ISN'T LIKE A A, YOU KNOW, MALABAR MINTON PROJECT OR WE'D BE. LET'S GO GO GO GO GO. THIS THIS IS A VISION PROJECT. AND AND IT BRINGS A LOT OF DIFFERENT ELEMENTS TO THE TABLE THAT I THINK IT IS APPROPRIATE THAT COUNCIL GIVE US DIRECTION ON. SO WE'RE 95%. THERE IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IN DESIGN CORRECT. SO $400,000 HAS BEEN EXPENDED. WE'RE IN DESIGN. AND THE WHOLE IDEA WAS, HEY, WE'VE DONE A BUNCH OF HOMEWORK AT LEAST WHERE THE HOMEWORK WE HAVE WANTED TO PRESENT THAT AND ASK COUNCIL, SAY, WHERE ARE WE REALLY AT? WHAT'S THE DIRECTION, WHERE ARE WE HEADED? AND DO WE WANT TO FINISH AND WHAT WAY DO WE WANT TO FINISH. AND IS THAT VALUE PROPOSITION, YOU KNOW, STILL THERE. AND THAT'S THAT'S THE REAL HONEST QUESTION A NEW STAFF IS ASKING OF A OF A COUNCIL. YEAH. AND I YOU KNOW THAT FOUR LANE BRIDGES GOT ME RIGHT. WOULDN'T IT BE GREAT THAT THE SAINT JOHNS BRIDGE GOING TO THE COUNTY SIDE. THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN FOUR LANES, RIGHT? I'M JUST SAYING THAT DESIGN SO THAT I THINK THE FOUR LANE BRIDGE, IF WE'RE GOING TO IF WE'RE GOING TO GO DOWN THIS RING, DOWN THIS ROAD, I THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT WAY TO GO. IS THAT FOUR LANE, BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH WE'RE NOT FUNDED THERE BUT WE'RE WE'RE BUILDING FOR THE FUTURE. THIS IS THIS IS NOT FOR US TO ENJOY. THIS IS FOR THE FUTURE, FOR OUR GRANDCHILDREN, FOR ME, MY GRANDCHILDREN, ANYWAY. TO ENJOY. YEAH. SO COUNCILMAN. WELL, I WAS STILL GOING, BUT SO, SO ON THAT, YOU KNOW. SO I RESPECT YOUR ANSWER, GENTLEMEN. AND IF THIS I UNDERSTAND IT'S IMPACT FEES AND SO THAT LIMITS WHAT WE CAN SPEND IT ON IN CERTAIN THINGS. SO ON THAT NOTE I'M JUST GOING TO PUT IT OUT THERE IN MY OPINION. YOU KNOW, I VOTED FOR THE DEPUTY MAYOR BECAUSE HE, HE BRINGS A CERTAIN EXPERTISE TO THE COUNCIL THAT THAT I THOUGHT WE NEEDED. AND HE'S SHOWN THAT EXPERTISE TONIGHT. SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND TRUST HIM AND BE IN FAVOR OF THE WOODEN BRIDGE. COUNCILMAN HAMMER, FIRST THING, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS THIS ISN'T MONEY THAT WE CAN SPEND ON ROADS AND EVERYTHING. THIS IS IMPACT FEES FOR THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. THIS ISN'T ROAD THAT CAN BE SPENT ON EXPANDING BABCOCK OR MALABAR OR ANYTHING. THIS IS SPECIFICALLY IMPACT FEES FROM THE PARKS. PARKS IMPACT FEES. MY SECOND THING IS I WOULD BE 100% IN SUPPORT OF THIS IF THE BRIDGE WOULD BE DOT CERTIFIED. I, I WOULD LOVE THE IDEA OF A WOODEN BRIDGE AND BUT I ALSO KNOW THERE ARE BRIDGES. I WANT TO SAY IT'S THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE THAT'S OVER THERE. I WANT TO SAY THEY GO OUT THERE AND THEY STEAL THE RAILS OFF OF IT, DON'T THEY? SO, I MEAN, IT'S NOT UNHEARD OF FOR THESE BRIDGES TO BE MESSED WITH BY BY PEOPLE OUT THERE. AND I DO THINK WE SHOULD HAVE THE STRONGEST AND A DOT CERTIFIED BRIDGE IS IMPORTANT FOR ME. SO IF THAT WAS, I WOULD BE 100% BEHIND THIS IF IT WAS DOT CERTIFIED. BUT WE HAVE PEOPLE. I HATE TO SAY IT, WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT GO OUT THERE AND MESS WITH OUR BRIDGES AND I JUST I LIKE THAT CERTIFICATION. OKAY. DEPUTY MAYOR HAD A QUESTION FOR PURCHASING. IS THERE A PROCUREMENT PROCESS AT THIS STAGE OF THE GAME WHERE THE CITY CAN ACTUALLY GO OUT AND GET A BID ON THE CURRENT DESIGN TO VERIFY THE ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE OF 2.5 MILLION, 2.4 MILLION AT THIS STAGE OF THE GAME. I THERE IS NOT WITH THE DESIGN BEING 95% COMPLETE, WE CAN REACH OUT TO KIMLEY-HORN WHO CAN DO SOME INVESTIGATIONS WITH FEASIBILITY STUDIES WITHIN THEIR POINTS OF CONTACT. BUT AS FAR AS BIDDING IT OUT WOULD VIOLATE THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS. ONCE WE GOT THE DESIGN DONE AND OUT TO BID, I THINK IT'S A GOOD POINT TO DISCUSS IN THE FUTURE OF THE CITY WHERE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT LIKE THIS IN THE FUTURE. WHY DESIGN BUILD IS SO IMPORTANT? BECAUSE THE CONTRACTOR OWNS THE BID. THEY OWN THE DESIGN, AND THEY OWN THE PRICE THE ENTIRE WAY THROUGH. RIGHT NOW, WE'RE RELYING ON A THIRD PARTY WHO DOESN'T BUILD THESE FOR A LIVING, DESIGNS THEM, BUT DOESN'T BUILD THEM, AND THEN RELYING ON HISTORICAL DATA THAT MAY OR MAY NOT ALIGN WITH THE ACTUAL JOBSITE CONDITIONS THAT WE HAVE IN [01:25:10] OUR PROJECT. AND JUST LIKE A VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION, THERE IS HORIZONTAL WORK JUST LIKE THIS THAT COULD BE DESIGN, BUILD OR EVEN FURTHERMORE SPECIFIC ENGINEERED SCOPES OF WORK LIKE BRIDGES COULD BE REMOVED FROM THE PRIMARY ENGINEER SCOPE OF WORK AND BID AND DESIGN SEPARATELY BY BY A SPECIALTY CONTRACTOR. SO GO AHEAD. SO PART OF THAT IS FOR STAFF TO DULY NOTE THOSE COMMENTS MOVING FORWARD. YEAH, MY MY BIGGEST THING IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S 95% COMPLETE TASK ORDER FROM 2022 COUNCIL AND 23 VOTED ON THIS. YOU KNOW, IF THERE IS A BUY IN ON, ON THE ON THE WOOD DESIGN, WHICH I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND IS, IS STAFF IS COUNCIL OPEN A DISCUSSION TO A TWO LANE STRUCTURE WITH THE ABILITY TO EXPAND IF KIMLEY-HORN ESTIMATE ISN'T CORRECT. YOU KNOW, IF THEY COME BACK AND THE CONTRACTOR BIDS FOR 5 MILLION, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? YOU KNOW, SO IF WE HAVE A V AD ALTERNATE DESIGN TO DO A TWO LANE BRIDGE WITH THE ABILITY TO EXPAND IT, IF THE BIDS COME IN ALIGNED WITH THE WITH THE TASK ORDER. MR. MORTON. SO IF I'M HEARING YOU CORRECTLY, DEPUTY MAYOR MOVING THIS FORWARD. BUT IF THE PRICE TAG GOES HIGHER, HAVE THEM REDESIGN IT FOR TWO LANE. IS THAT IS THAT AM I TRACKING YOU CORRECTLY? CORRECT. WOULD THERE BE A COST TO TO REDESIGN THAT? YES. AND WOULD THAT NOT BE PART OF THE COST ANALYSIS? IS THAT PART OF YOUR DISCUSSION TOO OR. YEAH, I JUST I JUST I'M JUST NOT ON THE I'M NOT IN BUYING IN THAT THIS BRIDGE CONCRETE THE WAY IT'S DESIGNED. IT'S GOING TO BE TWO FOR $2.4 MILLION. I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE NORTH OF FIVE. OKAY. OKAY. SO YES, IF I COULD MENTION WE COULD PUT THE BID OUT NOW AT 95%. DESIGN COUNCIL ALWAYS HAS THE RIGHT TO REJECT AWARDS. I JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE. SAY AGAIN, MR. MARTIN. NO, I'M SORRY. IT'S CLARIFYING. SOME DEPUTY MAYOR SAID HE ASKED THAT QUESTION. I SAID YES, HE DID, BUT I THINK IT WAS UNDERSTOOD AT THE TIME. CAN WE GO OUT AND SHOP PRICES? WE CAN'T SHOP PRICES, BUT WE COULD PUT IT OUT TO BID IN AN OFFICIAL PROCESS. AND THEN COUNCIL CAN ACCEPT OR REJECT THAT. IT WOULD GIVE YOU THAT DATA. THAT DEPUTY MAYOR IS CORRECT. I THINK YOU'RE LOOKING FOR. SO IS THAT SOMETHING YOU LIKE TO DO? BUT THAT STILL ON A FOUR LANE, 95, 95, 95% CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS PUT IT OUT FOR LET'S SEE WHAT WHAT WHAT THE DEAL IS CHECK THE TEMPERATURE OKAY OKAY. DO. SO I NEED A I NEED A MOTION. MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ALLOW STAFF TO GO AHEAD AND PUT THIS OUT FORMALLY TO BID AT A 95% CONSTRUCTION PLANS. SECOND. SECOND. GO AHEAD. I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE, SECONDED BY MAYOR MEDINA. YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN SOME MORE WHEN YOU'RE DONE, SIR? I'M SORRY. NO, MA'AM. CARRY ON. SIR, I DON'T WANT TO INTERRUPT THE VOTE, I APOLOGIZE, I WAS TRYING TO WEIGH IN AFTER. I JUST WANTED TO THANK. WE HAVE AN INTERIM ACTING PROCUREMENT OFFICIAL. NICK STEPPED UP. HE HAS BEEN DOING A PHENOMENAL JOB IN FINDING SOLUTIONS. I JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I WAS GOING TO WAIT UNTIL AFTER THE VOTE, I APOLOGIZE. COPY THAT. I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE, SECONDED BY MAYOR MEDINA. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AND I. I IS COUNCILMAN JOHNSON STILL ON? I THANK YOU, SIR. PASSES FIVE ZERO. WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER THREE. MR. MORTON. THANK YOU AGAIN, HONORABLE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO DISCUSS CONSIDERATION OF AMENDING THE MATERIAL MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT WITH REPUBLIC SERVICES TO IMPLEMENT MONTHLY BILLING FOR ALL RESIDENTIAL SOLID WASTE CUSTOMERS. I DO HAVE STAFF HERE TONIGHT TO PRESENT, ESSENTIALLY MOVING OFF OF THE QUARTERLY OR OTHER BILLING METHODS AND MOVING TO A MONTHLY UNIFORM COLLECTION. MR. BRINKLEY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. KEVIN BRINKLEY, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR. MR. MORTON SAID IT PERFECTLY. AT PRESENT, IF YOU'RE A RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMER WITHIN THE CITY AND YOU RECEIVE THE CITY'S UTILITY SERVICES, YOU ALSO GET YOUR SOLID WASTE BILL MONTHLY. BUT IF YOU ARE NOT ON THE CITY'S UTILITY SERVICES, YOU RECEIVE YOUR BILL QUARTERLY. SO THAT DUAL BILLING STRUCTURE CREATES SOME INEFFICIENCIES, SOME ADMINISTRATIVE HEADACHES COMPLICATES OUR RECONCILIATION PROCESS. WE'RE HOPING TO STREAMLINE IT AND ALSO MAKE IT MORE EFFICIENT FOR THE CITIZEN THAT THEY WOULD BE GETTING A MONTHLY BILL. A LOT OF TIMES, OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE FIELDS, FIELDS CALLS ASKING WHY MY BILL FOR SOLID WASTE IS $90 WHEN MY NEIGHBORS IS ONLY 29. THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT THAT'S REALLY JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE GETTING A QUARTERLY BILL AS OPPOSED TO A MONTHLY BILL. SO THIS WOULD BE LED OFF WITH A LETTER CAMPAIGN TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S AWARE. [01:30:06] OVER THE NEXT 60 DAYS, WE WOULD BE DOING MAILING LETTERS TO EVERYONE THAT WOULD BE IMPACTED. AND ALSO AN INSERT. THANK YOU TO THE BILL THAT THE UTILITY CUSTOMERS WILL BE GETTING IN APRIL AS WELL. YEAH. COULDN'T THINK OF THE WORD INSERT THERE. BUT JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS, HEY, THIS IS CHANGING. THIS IS WHAT YOU'LL BE SEEING IN THE FUTURE. AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YEAH, JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS. NUMBER. LIKE, WHAT'S THE COST OF THE MAILING CAMPAIGN? AND TWO, IF IT'S COSTLY, CAN WE JUST PUT A NOTICE ON THE NEXT BILL SAYING, HEY, ON SUCH AND SUCH DATE, THIS IS GOING TO BE THE NEW INFORMATION THAT WE'RE KILLING TWO BIRDS WITH ONE STONE, ESSENTIALLY. YEP. SO IF I CAN COUNCIL MAYOR DENNIS BOND, WHAT WE WOULD ACTUALLY DO IS THE QUARTERLY BILL GOES OUT IN APRIL. SO IT'S GOOD TIMING. WE WOULD PUT AN INSERT IN THAT QUARTERLY BILL. WE WOULD ALSO WORK WITH THE PIO AND WE WOULD POST SOCIAL MEDIA CITY WEBSITE. AND THEN WE CURRENTLY SEND OUT LETTERS. NOW FOR OTHER REASONS WE WOULD ALSO ADD INTO THOSE MAILINGS. SO THAT WOULD ALL BE ENCOMPASSED IN WHAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING. SO IT WOULDN'T BE AN EXTRA COST. WE MAY HAVE TO GO OUT DEPENDING ON WHAT OUR FEEDBACK IS, AND THEN SEND SOME INDIVIDUAL LETTERS TO THE CUSTOMERS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY KNOW. SO IT WOULD PROBABLY BE A 60 DAY PROCESS BEFORE WE SWITCHED OVER TO THE MONTHLY BILLING, GIVING PEOPLE TIME TO ADJUST. THEN ANOTHER QUESTION IS SOME OF THE GARBAGE IS ACTUALLY TIED TO THE WATER BILL, SOME MONTHLY WATER BILL. AND THEN THE, THE QUARTERLY. THAT'S THE FOLKS THAT ARE ON WELL AND SEPTIC OR THAT'S BILLED SEPARATELY IS IS IT GOING TO BE ON STAY ON THE WATER BILL OR WILL THE TRASH BILL BE SEPARATE ALTOGETHER FOR EVERYBODY? IT ALL STAY TOGETHER. THE PEOPLE WITH CITY WATER WOULD NOT CHANGE. THE PEOPLE WITH QUARTERLY WOULDN'T REALLY CHANGE, EXCEPT THEY'RE GETTING THEIR BILL ON ON MONTHLY. OKAY. AND JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, WHAT STARTED THIS IS IN 2024 WE RECEIVED A HUGE INFLUX OF CALLS WITH PEOPLE ASKING ABOUT THEIR BILL, WHY THEIR BILL WENT UP. AND OBVIOUSLY WHEN THE ANNUAL PERCENTAGE GOES UP, A MONTHLY BILL SHOWS UP A LOT LESS THAN A QUARTERLY BILL. THAT GOT US LOOKING INTO IT. AND THEN WE ALSO DISCOVERED THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF ACTIVE SERVICES THAT REALLY WERE NOT ACTIVE. THE LISTS WERE NOT MANAGEABLE. WE HAVE A LARGE RENTAL COMMUNITY. A LOT OF THAT IS ON WELL WATER. PEOPLE LEAVE A MONTH, MONTH AND A HALF INTO A QUARTERLY BILL. THEY LEAVE, THEY GET SENT THE QUARTERLY BILL BECAUSE THE HOUSE IS VACANT AND WE'RE NOT COLLECTING THE MONEY BACK. AND WE DON'T KNOW UNTIL SOMEBODY ELSE GOES TO REGISTER THEIR WATER ACCOUNT. SO WE DISCOVERED WITH REPUBLIC THAT THE LIST THAT THEY HAD FOR ACTIVE SERVICE WAS NOT EXACTLY THE LIST THAT UTILITIES HAD FOR ACTIVE SERVICE. THIS AFFECTED BILLING COLLECTION. AND THIS IS WHERE WE STARTED. HOW CAN WE CORRECT THIS? AND JUST TO MANAGE LIKE IF YOU WERE MANAGING YOUR CHECKBOOK, YOU WOULD WANT EVERYTHING IN A NICE NEAT ORDER. SO MONTHLY BECOMES A VERY SIMPLE WAY TO MANAGE. PLUS INSTEAD OF PAYING THIS LARGER AMOUNT QUARTERLY, YOU ARE NOW BUDGETING THE SMALLER AMOUNT MONTHLY LIKE THE REST OF THE CITY THAT HAS WATER. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT GOT US STARTED. AND WE'RE STILL WORKING TO STRAIGHTEN OUT THE COLLECTIONS. WE HAVE A LOT OF ACCOUNTS THAT JUST FELL BY THE WAYSIDE, AND REPUBLIC IS PICKING THEM UP, THINKING THAT IT'S STILL AN ACTIVE ACCOUNT. BUT LIKE I SAID, WITH THE RENTAL COMMUNITY AND IT'S GROWING, IT KIND OF GOT OUT OF HAND. SO THIS IS A WAY TO CLEAN UP AND DO SOME HOUSEKEEPING AND JUST HAVE A BETTER SYSTEM ALTOGETHER. COOL. MR. I THINK YOU DO A GREAT JOB, AND I THINK YOU DID A GREAT JOB ANSWERING ALL THE QUESTIONS SO FAR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY SPEAKER CARDS? BILL BENTON. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST. I KNOW IT'S NOT A LOT OF MONEY, BUT I'M ONE OF THE QUARTERLY PEOPLE, AND I TRY TO PAY MY BILLS WHEN THEY COME IN. AND I WRITE A CHECK TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO PAY. PAY MY BILL. BUT THEN I HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT POSTAGE. POSTAGE FOR ME IS ENTIRELY DIFFERENT THAN IT IS FOR GOVERNMENT IDENTITIES. I WILL BE PAYING $9.60 TO PAY MY PICKUP. THAT'S NOT A LOT. BUT THEN IF I'M THINKING, WELL, IF THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO PAY MORE, THEN YOU ADD THAT TO EVERYBODY ELSE THAT'S CURRENTLY ON THE QUARTERLY FUNDING SOURCE, AND YOU ADD THAT UP OVER EVERYBODY, WHICH IS WHAT AREN'T WE AROUND 40% OF THE RESIDENTS IN PALM BAY DON'T HAVE CITY WATER AND SEWER, SO THEY'RE QUARTERLY. NOW, THAT MEANS THAT MANY RESIDENTS WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY ARE NOW PAYING $9.60 WHEN THEY WERE PAYING $3.60 A YEAR. THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF CASH. [01:35:05] YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A LOT OF MONEY, BUT IT'S WHEN YOU SPREAD IT OUT OVER THAT MANY PEOPLE, IT'S NOTICEABLE. AND WE'RE THE PEOPLE THAT DON'T GET THE CITY AND WATER AND WE DON'T GET THE SEWER. SO IT WAS A NICE LITTLE BENEFIT THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE TO PAY EVERY MONTH. AN ADDITIONAL COST TO MAIL IN THE CHECK TO YOU, RIGHT? SO I'VE GOT A SOLUTION THAT MAKES ME HAPPY AND MAKES EVERYBODY ELSE'S ON QUARTERLY HAPPY. AND IT MIGHT EVEN MAKE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON CITY WATER AND SEWER THAT GET THEIR MONTHLY BILL HAPPY INSTEAD OF SENDING IT OUT MONTHLY. YOU SEND EVERYBODY QUARTERLY INSTEAD. AND THAT WAY YOU SAVE ALL THE MONTHLY MAILING THAT THE CITY HAS TO PAY FOR, AND YOU ONLY SEND IT OUT QUARTERLY. SO YOU CUT THAT ENTIRE MAILING BILL DOWN BY ONE THIRD. I MEAN DOWN TO ONE THIRD OF WHAT THE TOTAL COST WOULD BE. YOU MET EVERYBODY'S OBJECTIVES. WE JUST BOUGHT US, SPENT THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS FOR A MANAGEMENT SYSTEM SOFTWARE PACKAGE FOR THE CITY, AND THAT WILL HELP SOLVE PART OF THAT PROBLEM. IT'S JUST A MECHANISM TO MAKE IT WORK OUT, TO SOLVE THEIR PROBLEMS, BECAUSE WE HAD CONFUSIONS BETWEEN QUARTERLY VERSUS MONTHLY. JUST GO THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION AND GO QUARTERLY INSTEAD OF MONTHLY. I SAVED YOU MONEY, SAVED ME MONEY, AND SAVED ALL THE OTHER 40% OF THE RESIDENTS THAT DON'T HAVE IT SAVED THEM MONEY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. KEEP. KEEP THOSE. BUTCHER AND. BUTCHER. EXCUSE ME. BUTCHER RAN 219 TRENTON AVENUE. I PAY MY BILL A YEAR IN ADVANCE. AND I DO THAT BECAUSE I TRAVEL DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS, DURING THE WINTER MONTHS. AND I DON'T WANT TO BE HIT WITH A SHORTAGE ON THAT. SO I'VE ALREADY PAID FOR THE YEAR. IF THIS GOES INTO EFFECT, HOW WILL I GET A REFUND? WILL I GET IT FROM THE CITY? WILL I GET IT FROM THE GARBAGE COMPANY? WHERE AT? OR WILL IT JUST. WILL I GET A BILL? AND THEN I HAVE TO COME BACK OVER AND GET THE MONEY FROM THE CITY AGAIN. SO, AM I MAKING SENSE TO YOU? YES. NO. WHETHER IT'S WHETHER IT'S A YEAR OR EVERY MONTH. WOULDN'T IT BE THE SAME AMOUNT THAT. I DON'T KNOW? BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW. YOU'RE NOT TELLING US WHAT THE MONTHLY FEE IS. IT'S NOT BROKE DOWN ON THE BILL THAT I GET. I DON'T GET IT. WE'LL GET, WE'LL GET, WE'LL GET. IF THAT'S YOUR QUESTION, WE'LL GET AN ANSWER FOR YOU. OKAY. BUT IF IT GOES INTO EFFECT TILL MONTHLY, THEY WOULD HAVE TO GIVE ME A REFUND BECAUSE. THE, THE, THE GARBAGE COMPANY WOULD WANT THEIR PAYMENT. CORRECT. IT'S NOT GOING TO COME FROM THE CITY ANYMORE. IT'S GOING TO COME FROM ME. OKAY. WELL WE'LL GET WE'LL GET A RESPONSE FOR YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL. NEXT SPEAKER, ROBERT STICE. ROBERT STEIN, 1796 HORNBROOK DRIVE. GIVE YOU A LITTLE PERSPECTIVE ON THAT. I HAVE 172 HOUSES IN MY HOA WHEN WE HAVE TO ADD ANOTHER SHEET, BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME SPECIFICS GOING ON. OUR POSTAGE IS $416 FOR 172 HOUSES. SO I'M NOT GOING TO DO THE MATH BY THAT, BUT KEEP IT IN PERSPECTIVE. THAT'S QUITE A CHUNK OF CHANGE. ALSO, 40% OF THE CITY IS A 40% NOT PAYING FOR WATER AND SEWER BECAUSE THEY'RE ON SEPTIC. HOW DOES THAT EQUATE? SO I THINK I THINK YOU'RE REALLY MISSING THE POINT WITH WHAT THE POSTAGE IS INITIALLY GOING TO CAUSE COST. I WOULD HAVE SOMEBODY DO THE MATH ON THAT. AND THEN YOU KNOW, ALSO, HOW IS THIS GOING TO BE RECEIVED BY OUR CUSTOMERS? BUT LIKE I SAID, THE POSTAGE POSTAGE AIN'T CHEAP. SO THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER CONCLUDES MAYOR. WOULD YOU PLEASE ADDRESS THE CONCERNS? SO LET ME START WITH MR. OREN. PEOPLE WHO WANT TO PAY ANNUALLY, AND WE DO HAVE A FEW CUSTOMERS THAT DO. THAT DOESN'T CHANGE. YOU WOULD STILL PAY YOUR BILL ANNUALLY. THE AMOUNT DOESN'T CHANGE JUST BECAUSE YOU WENT TO MONTHLY. THE AMOUNT FOR A YEAR OF OF SERVICE IS WHAT IT IS. SO WE DO HAVE A FEW CUSTOMERS THAT PAY ANNUALLY. THAT WOULD ALWAYS STILL BE AN OPTION. IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO PAY THEIR BILL FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR, THEY COULD DO SO. AND THEY WOULD NOT RECEIVE A MONTHLY BILL BECAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY PAID IT A YEAR IN ADVANCE. SO THAT PART DOESN'T CHANGE. AS FAR AS AS A QUARTERLY, WE COULD LOOK INTO SOMETHING WHERE IF THEY ARE AN ACTUAL HOMEOWNER OR HOMESTEADED AND THEY'VE OWNED THEIR PROPERTY AND THEY WANT TO REMAIN QUARTERLY, BUT THE ISSUE STILL BECOMES AND I UNDERSTAND THE POSTAGE ISSUE, [01:40:03] AND WE LOOKED INTO THAT. THERE IS A LOT OF MONEY LEFT OUT THERE WITH THE TRANSITION OF PEOPLE MOVING AND THE CITY DOESN'T COLLECT AND THERE'S THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY HANGING OUT THERE. SO MANAGEMENT WISE AND COLLECTION WISE, IT'S JUST A BETTER WAY TO GO. IF EVERYBODY DID QUARTERLY NOW BEFORE YOU REALIZE DELINQUENCIES, YOU'RE 90 DAYS IN. AND THAT'S NOT FOR THE GOOD CITIZENS THAT ARE PAYING THEIR BILLS ON TIME AND DOING THAT. THAT'S FOR THE RENTAL HOUSES AND THE LANDLORDS AND ITEMS LIKE THAT. SO THE COLLECTION PROCESS, INSTEAD OF BEING A 3060 DAY PROCESS, BECOMES A 90, 120 DAY PROCESS. AND THAT'S WHAT HANGS EVERYTHING UP. AND SO THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THE CITY DOESN'T NECESSARILY COLLECT OR LOSE IS, IS A LOT MORE THAN WHAT POSTAGE IS FOR THE MONTH. SO WE DO WEIGH THAT OUT. AND WE HAVE LISTENED TO THE CITIZENS. AND THESE ARE SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT ORIGINALLY CAME IN. ONCE WE STARTED LOOKING AT THE CITIZENS CONCERNS, WE REALIZED WE HAD A HUGE BOOKKEEPING ISSUE IN THE FACT THAT REPUBLIC IS NOT ON THE SAME PAR AS WHAT THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT IS, AND THINGS ARE BEING COLLECTED AND NOT COLLECTED. AND WE'VE WORKED REALLY HARD OVER THE LAST YEAR TO GET THE LIST DOWN, GET THE HOMES DOWN, CHECK VACANT HOUSES. BUT THAT'S WHAT QUARTERLY BRINGS TO YOU, IS A LOT OF TIMES YOU DON'T KNOW UNTIL YOU'RE 90 DAYS IN. AND THEN THAT CREATES A COLLECTION ISSUE. AND WE DO HAVE A HUGE AMOUNT OF RENTALS. THE GOAL IS NOT TO HIT THE HOMEOWNERS, PEOPLE WITH HOMESTEADED PROPERTIES AND HOAS, US WITH EXTRA POSTAGE, BUT THE AMOUNT THAT'S LEFT ON THE TABLE BECAUSE OF THIS IS HUGE TO THE CITY. THANK YOU. MR. MORTON, I WAS JUST GOING TO CLARIFY. AND, DENNIS, MAYBE YOU DON'T WANT TO SIT DOWN JUST YET, IF YOU DON'T MIND. BUT, YOU KNOW, PART OF WHAT WE DID EARLIER THIS YEAR IS WE DID THE ACCOUNT RECONCILIATION. AND THE IDEA WAS WE HAD PEOPLE LOTS OF ACCOUNTS ACTUALLY, IN THE CITY THAT WERE PAYING FOR ONE CART, BUT THEY HAD TWO, THREE, FOUR. WE HAD SOME WITH TEN. AND SO YOUR NEIGHBORS ARE PAYING FOR YOUR GARBAGE DISPOSAL. YOU'RE NOT PAYING FOR IT, RIGHT? AND SO WE HAVE THE SAME SITUATION. THE QUARTERLY ACCOUNTS I KNOW YOU HAVE THE NUMBER IN YOUR HEAD, DENNIS, ARE DISPROPORTIONATELY IN ARREARS. AND WHEN ARREARS ARE UNCOLLECTED, IT'S NOT THE MAGIC CITY THAT PAYS FOR IT. YOU'RE PAYING FOR IT. YOUR NEIGHBORS ARE PAYING FOR IT. YOU GUYS ARE PAYING FOR THAT. THAT MONEY THAT'S HANGING OUT THERE. YOU'RE PAYING THAT INTEREST COST. YOU'RE PAYING THAT CASH CARRY. YOU'RE PAYING FOR THE NON COLLECTIONS IN THE COST OF YOUR SERVICE. IT COSTS THE COST OF YOUR SERVICE TO INCREASE. AND SO WAS IT 25% UPWARDS. IT'S A DISPROPORTIONATE NUMBER OF THE QUARTERLY ACCOUNTS ARE IN ARREARS VERSUS THE STANDARD MONTHLY OR THE NUMBER WAS IN THE SINGLE DIGITS, IF I RECALL YOUR YOUR DATA CORRECTLY. SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT THAT WAS ONE OF THE IMPETUSES HERE. IT'S THIS OVERALL. AND AGAIN I'M NOT TRYING TO CONVINCE YOU. I'M JUST SAYING THE DATA BEHIND THIS, OUR METHODOLOGY SO EVERYONE CAN UNDERSTAND WAS IT'S THE RECONCILIATION OF CHEWING UP THE COST, GETTING PEOPLE TO PAY FOR THE SERVICE THEY'RE USING, AND MAKE SURE THAT NO ONE ELSE IS FINANCING THE GARBAGE EXCEPT THE USERS IN THE ACCOUNT. THIS HOPEFULLY HELPS US RECONCILE THAT TRUE COST OF GARBAGE TIPPING TONNAGE WHEN, AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN RECONCILIATION AND AS WE MOVE FORWARD TO THE NEXT GARBAGE CONTRACT NEGOTIATION CYCLE, WE CAN VERY MORE EASILY ACCOUNT FOR HOW MUCH MONEY IT'S COSTING. YOU KNOW, WHEN I FIRST CAME, I REMEMBER I SAW A CHANGE ORDER FOR A BUDGET TRANSFER AND IT WAS OVER $1 MILLION. YES. BECAUSE OF THIS VERY ISSUE. AND SO WE'RE HAVING TO FIND $1 MILLION TO PUT IT BACK IN THE GARBAGE ACCOUNT TO WAIT FOR THE REVENUE TO COME IN. AND SO IT'S JUST REALLY TRYING TO TO MAKE THIS MORE FAIR ALL THE WAY AROUND. AND AGAIN, THE TRACKING AND THE, THE CASH MANAGEMENT FLOW. SO IT'S JUST JUST TO GIVE THE BACK STORY A LITTLE BIT MORE ON, ON, ON THE RATIONALE BEHIND IT. AND THAT IS CORRECT. AND I WILL SAY TOO, PART OF THE CART ISSUE ALSO STEMMED FROM THE QUARTERLY BECAUSE PEOPLE WOULD LEAVE, TAKE THEIR CARTS WITH THEM, MOVE TO ANOTHER HOUSE. NOW THEY HAVE FOUR CARTS INSTEAD OF TWO CARTS. BUT AGAIN, YOU'RE NOT CATCHING THAT FOR 90 DAYS OR 120 DAYS AND OVER FIVE YEARS THAT LED TO A HUGE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE NOT HAVING CARS. IT ALSO HAD TO DO WITH THE WASTE MANAGEMENT SWITCHOVER, BUT THAT PLAYED INTO IT AS WELL. SO IT'S REALLY THE EXTENSION OF TIME AND HOW YOU CAN MANAGE YOUR MONEY COMING IN AND GET PEOPLE. PLUS I WILL SAY JUST THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT COMPLAIN ON A REGULAR BASIS ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF A QUARTERLY BILL BECAUSE IT'S NOT. IT'S $90 FOR TRASH, BUT THEN IT'S ALSO STORMWATER MIXED IN WHEN THAT COMES IN, IN A MONTHLY BILL. IT'S A MORE CONSOLIDATED, SMALLER AMOUNT, AND IT'S SOMETIMES EASIER TO BUDGET FOR SOME PEOPLE. SO THANK YOU. OKAY. COUNCIL I NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED. GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE, SECOND, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. THANKS FOR STAYING WITH US THERE, COUNCILMAN. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE AYE. ANY OPPOSED? [01:45:03] PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR. MR. MORTON. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU AGAIN, HONORABLE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL. THIS IS THE LEGISLATIVE PRIOR FEDERAL LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES WE DISCUSSED. THESE ARE DUE BY THE END OF DAY ON MONDAY. AND SO WHAT STAFF HAS DONE. AND WE'LL GO DOWN ANY RANGE THAT COUNCIL WANTS. THESE ARE JUST SOME RECOMMENDATIONS. OF COURSE, AS YOU'RE WELL AWARE IDENTIFIED SIX POTENTIAL PROJECTS FOR SUBMISSION. WE FOCUSED OUR EFFORTS AFTER THE FIRST INITIAL IDENTIFICATION AND DRAFT. WE HONE THAT DOWN TO FOCUS ON SIX SPECIFIC TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS. I'LL READ THEM REALLY QUICKLY. THEY ARE SUMMARIZED IN A MATRIX. AND THEN THERE'S INDIVIDUAL LEGISLATIVE SHEETS FOR SUBMITTAL. ONE WAS AN IT'S TRAFFIC ENHANCEMENT PROJECT AT EMERSON DRIVE AND BABCOCK STREET, AS WELL AS JUPITER BOULEVARD AND SAN FILIPPO DRIVE. THE REQUEST FOR THE FEDERAL REQUEST WOULD BE $1 MILLION, WITH A CITY MATCH OF $226,415 AND TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEES. ITEM TWO IN YOUR PACKET IS INTERSECTION SAFETY IMPROVEMENT FROM SANFILIPPO DRIVE SOUTHEAST AND WYOMING DRIVE SOUTHEAST. THE LEGISLATIVE REQUEST IS $2.4 MILLION, WITH A CITY MATCH OF $600,000 FROM TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEES. ITEM THREE WAS INTERSECTION SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS FROM SANFILIPPO DRIVE SOUTHEAST AND JUPITER BOULEVARD SOUTHEAST, WITH A REQUEST TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OF 2.4 MILLION IN A CITY MATCH OF 600,000. ITEM NUMBER FOUR WAS INTERSECTION SAFETY IMPROVEMENT AT SANFILIPPO DRIVE AND COGAN DRIVE, A REQUEST OF 2.4 MILLION, AGAIN WITH THE CITY MATCH OF 600,000. ITEM FIVE FIVE IS INTERSECTION SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS AT JUPITER BOULEVARD SOUTHWEST AND GARVEY ROAD. FEDERAL REQUEST OF 2.4 MILLION IN A CITY MATCH OF $600,000. AND LASTLY, MALABAR ROAD NORTHWEST AND SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT TO REPLACE EXISTING TEMPORARY TRAFFIC SIGNALIZATION AND A PERMANENT MULTI-LANE ROUNDABOUT. REQUEST FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OF $3 MILLION CITY MATCH OF 1.5. THE REASON THESE NUMBERS ARE PRESENTED THE WAY THEY ARE WAS WE WERE INFORMED BY OUR FEDERAL LOBBYIST AND IT WAS CONFIRMED $3 MILLION IS THE ABSOLUTE UPPER END, REALLY OF OF A OF A A CHARITABLE REQUEST TO MOVE TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. AND OF COURSE, THE MORE MATCH WE CAN GET, THE BETTER OFF WE ARE. WE DID TRY TO POSITION THAT MATCH TO, TO BE IN THE PERCENTAGE RANGE OF SUCCESSFUL LEGISLATIVE REQUESTS FROM CONGRESSMAN HARIDOPOLOS, WHO HIT WHO HIT SEVERAL HOME RUNS FOR US LAST YEAR. WELL THANK YOU. SO ARE THERE ANY SPEAKER CARDS, DEPUTY MAYOR? NO, MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. SO LET'S GET LET'S GET TO IT. LET LET'S LET'S GO BY THESE THE EASY HANGING FRUIT, SO TO SPEAK. RIGHT. BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO SELECT THE TOP. WHAT I'M THINKING 3 OR 4 SAYS FOUR, BUT THE TOP THREE HOW ARE WE WITH MALABAR ROAD AND SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY? THE INTERSECTION. THAT'S ITEM NUMBER SIX, GUYS. CITY MATCHES IS 1.5. IS THAT ROUNDABOUT THAT OUR CITY MANAGERS CITY MANAGER JUST DESCRIBED? ARE WE ALL GOOD WITH THAT ONE, OR IS THERE ANYONE THAT SAYS OTHERWISE? I SEE THAT AS BEING ONE OF OUR TOP. OKAY, SO LET'S SAY NUMBER SIX IS IS THE IMPORTANT ONE, RIGHT? OKAY. ARE WE ALL IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT? COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON. COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON. MAYOR. YES. SO I ALREADY HAVE MY MY LIST OF MY TOP FOUR. FOR ME, IT'S ITEMS ONE, THREE, FIVE AND SIX. SO. OKAY, SO WE GOT SIX. ALRIGHT, WE GOT SIX. WELL I WAS GOING ITEM NUMBER ONE IS THE, IT'S YOU KNOW I'M I'M GOOD WITH THAT. SO WE GOT ITEM ONE. IS EVERYONE GOOD WITH THAT. THAT'S PERFECT. SO ITEM SIX AND ITEM NUMBER ONE, AND THEN ITEM NUMBER THREE, IT WAS MENTIONED BY YOU. WHICH IS SAN FILIPPO AND JUPITER. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. EVERYONE COULD SAN FILIPPO COULD USE COULD USE THAT. SO I'M. I'M GOOD WITH SAN FILIPPO AND JUPITER AS WELL. GENTLEMEN. THUMBS UP. COUNCILMAN HAMMER, DEPUTY MAYOR. SO. YEAH. SO WE GOT THOSE TOP THREE, ONE, THREE AND SIX. MR. MORTON DID YOU WANT US TO GO TO A NUMBER FOUR? IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND IF THAT'S OKAY? BECAUSE WHEN WE SUBMIT THAT, I'M SURE THERE'LL BE ANOTHER ROUND OF CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR ORDER. WE'LL REFRESH THAT ONE MORE TIME WITH THE CONGRESSMAN'S OFFICE. IF THEY DO COME BACK AND SUGGEST A CHANGE OR PIVOT, OR IF THE CONGRESSMAN KNOWS SOMETHING WE DON'T WITH A COMPANION PROJECT OR SOMETHING IN ALIGNMENT WITH FDOT. WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A NUMBER ORDER SO WE CAN MAKE THOSE MOVES ON COUNCIL'S WISHES WITHOUT HAVING TO COME BACK, SO HE CAN GIVE US A THIS PRIORITY ORDER. THAT WOULD JUST BE SUPER HELPFUL. SO GENTLEMEN, I'LL TELL YOU WHERE I'M AT. I THINK SAN FILIPPO AS A WHOLE IS IT NEEDS IMPROVEMENTS. [01:50:04] THAT'S ON THIS LIST. SO I WOULD, I WOULD GO WITH NUMBER TWO WYOMING. I'M, I'M, I'M GOOD WITH EITHER NUMBER TWO OR EVEN ITEM NUMBER FOUR. BUT IN IN ORDER OF PRECEDENCE, I'D RATHER GO WITH TWO FIRST. I THINK TWO WITH THE FIRE STATION. YES, SIR I AGREE. OKAY. SO MINE IS, IS FIVE JUST BECAUSE WHERE THE FIRE STATION IS, WE DO HAVE A LIGHT THERE. AND IF YOU KNOW WHERE JUPITER MEETS GARVEY, THERE HAS BEEN A NUMBER OF ACCIDENTS THERE. AND IT'S A FOUR WAY STOP. SO THERE IS LIGHTS AT THE OTHER ONES. THERE IS NO LIGHT AT JUPITER AND GARVEY. THAT'S GOOD. ONLY IT'S IT'S $600,000 MORE. SO I'M. I'M NOT GOING TO WHATEVER THE COUNCIL WANTS, EITHER 2 OR 5. I'M GOOD. I'M OKAY WITH THE MAJORITY, BUT I JUST WANTED TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT'S. THAT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT DOESN'T HAVE A LIGHT. AND IT IS A FOUR WAY STOP. AND THERE IS THERE IS A SCHOOL THAT'S RIGHT THERE, JUPITER ELEMENTARY, BUT THERE'S A SCHOOL WITH ODYSSEY. AND IF YOU EVER COME OUT OF ODYSSEY AT SCHOOL TIME, IT'S BACKED UP. SO I AM I AM BEHIND EITHER THE WYOMING IN SAN FILIPPO OR THE ONE FOR JUPITER AND GARVEY. SEE NUMBER FIVE, JUPITER AND GARVEY. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A FOUR WAY STOP SIGN. YEAH, BUT THEN ITEM NUMBER TWO IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. YEAH. IS THAT FIRE STATION? I'M BEHIND. EITHER OR. OKAY. ALRIGHT, SO THE MAJORITY GOES FOR I AM I WE. WE WERE ALL ON NUMBER TWO. IS THERE ANY CHANGES TO THAT? ALL RIGHT, SO WE'RE ALL. SO WE GOT IT. 1136 AND 2 OR 1, TWO, THREE AND SIX. ALL RIGHT. IS THAT GOOD? I NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED. SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCIL OR DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN HAMMER. ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'RE NOW ON REPORTS, COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN. YES, MAYOR. [COUNCIL REPORTS:] FIRST, BEFORE I GIVE MY REPORT, WHAT ARE WE CALLING THE. IS IT THE CITIZENS OVERSIGHT ACCOUNTABILITY TASK FORCE? ACCOUNTABILITY TASK FORCE? CITIZENS ACCOUNTABILITY TASK FORCE. OKAY, I'VE GOT MY APPOINTMENT FOR THE CITIZENS ACCOUNTABILITY TASK FORCE. BEFORE BEFORE I SAY IT. SO I'M GOING TO APPOINT DOCTOR RICK DANTE. AND JUST TO GIVE HIM A LITTLE SHOUT OUT BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT BOARD. AND WE WE KIND OF MADE A PLEDGE UP HERE TO TRY TO PUT SOME VERY HIGH, YOU KNOW, AFFLUENT PEOPLE ON THE BOARD. SO YOU KNOW, DOCTOR RICK DANTE, WHO'S AN HE WAS A FINALIST IN THE ASTRONAUT PROGRAM. HE ENDED UP DOING GROUND MISSIONS FOR NASA, WROTE SOME PHENOMENAL PAPERS. HE'S A HE'S A DOCTOR IN SPACE PSYCHOLOGY, BASICALLY WORKED AT FIT, AND HE RECENTLY GOT AN AWARD AT MAR A LAGO. SO I THINK WE GOT A GOOD A GOOD CITIZEN ADVISORY TASK FORCE THERE. THANK YOU, SIR. THAT. THAT'S EXCITING. OH, AND THEN BEFORE I END, IT WAS AN EXCITING NIGHT TONIGHT. SO, MAYOR, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR CHAMPIONING THE THE THE PURPLE HEART. THE THE FIRST CITY IN BREVARD COUNTY TO BE THE OFFICIAL PURPLE HEART CITY. AND FOR THE MILITARY ORDER OF THE PURPLE HEART TO COME HERE TONIGHT. THAT WAS AWESOME. COUNCILMAN HAMMER, I ALSO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. THAT WAS. THAT WAS TRULY AMAZING. YOU KNOW, COMING. YOU KNOW, MY GRANDFATHER WAS IN THE NAVY. BEING A NAVY HOME, I IT'S IT'S AMAZING TO SEE PEOPLE THAT FOUGHT FOR WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT HERE COMING TOGETHER IN OUR CITY, BACKING THAT UP. IT'S PRETTY AWESOME. ANOTHER THING I WANT TO SAY IT IS IT IS STARTING TO GET A LITTLE WARMER OUTSIDE, AND WE ARE STARTING TO HAVE PEOPLE WITH BOATS THAT ARE GOING TO START GOING OUT. I WAS GOING TO SEE IF THE CITY OR EVEN NOW THAT PD HAS A BOAT, ARE WE DOING ANY KIND OF BOATER SAFETY COURSES? BECAUSE LAST BOATING SEASON I DID LOSE A FRIEND DUE TO NOT HAVING ON A LIFE JACKET. SO I WOULD LOVE TO SEE EVEN IF WE'RE NOT, IF WE CAN SOMEHOW PUSH OUT SOMEBODY WHO IS DOING IT. I DON'T KNOW IF THE COAST GUARD DOES IT THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. I, I WOULD LOVE TO ENDORSE A PROGRAM THAT IS DOING IT JUST TO GET OUT, GET PEOPLE KNOWING BOATER SAFETY WHEN YOU'RE OFFSHORE. PLEASE HAVE SOMETHING. HAVE HAVE HAVE YOUR GPS, YOU CAN GET A FLASHER. THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS YOU CAN HAVE WHEN YOU'RE GOING OUT THAT CAN PREVENT PEOPLE FROM LOSING LOVED ONES. MY NEXT THING IS WE HAVE A LARGE APPETITE FOR NOT JUST PICKLEBALL, BUT FOR SOCCER. I HEAR PALM BAY YOUTH SOCCER IS COMING BACK. WE ACTUALLY HAVE WICKS THAT'S DOING SOCCER TOO, [01:55:04] BUT WE HAVEN'T GOT A LOT OF AREA FOR THEM TO PLAY SOCCER. I WAS DOING SOME RESEARCH, AND I SAW THE RIVIERA DOG PARK THAT OR THE RIVIERA PARK THAT HAS THE DOG PARK IN IT. THAT'S A 36 ACRE PARK, AND WE ONLY HAVE FIVE ACRES BEING UTILIZED. I WAS GOING TO SEE IF WE CAN SOMEHOW INCORPORATE MAYBE SOME TRAILS, A SOCCER FIELD, PICKLEBALL, SOMETHING IN THAT AREA. THAT'S A CENTRALIZED AREA. SO I DO KNOW THAT THERE IS A SOCCER ORGANIZATION THAT'S UTILIZING FRED POPPY. THIS WOULD BE A SECOND PLACE FOR NOT JUST PALM BAY YOUTH, BUT FOR WICKS AND A FEW OTHER PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THEIR SOCCER PROGRAMS HERE IN PALM BAY, WHERE WHERE YOU CAN HAVE IT CENTRALIZED TO WHERE EVERYBODY CAN USE IT WITH FRED POPPY. YES, I GO OUT THERE DURING THE SOCCER SEASONS AND IT'S IT'S A MESS. EVEN EVEN ELECTION DAYS. ELECTION DAYS IS A MESS. GETTING IN AND OUT OF THERE. SO I THINK THAT THAT PARK ON RIVIERA HAS A LOT OF POTENTIAL. IT'S A CENTRALIZED AREA. IT'S RIGHT ALONG I-95 THERE. SO YOU IT WOULD BE A NICE OPEN AREA IF WE COULD WORK SOMETHING OUT. MAYBE SOCCER FIELDS GET GET A PRIVATE PUBLIC PARTNERSHIP UP THERE. AND I WANTED TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT. THEY WENT AND DID SOME WORK IN PALM BAY ESTATES, AND WE GOT AN EMAIL FROM A RESIDENT SAYING HOW PROFESSIONAL THEY WERE, HOW AMAZING THEY WERE. THEY CAME OUT, THEY TALKED WITH ALL THE RESIDENTS, EXPLAINED WHAT THEY WERE DOING AND THEY JUST SAID IT WAS AN AMAZING THING TO HAVE THE CITY IN THERE AND NOT NOT HAVING THEM BE IGNORED. THEY CAME OUT, THEY WERE AMAZING, SHE SAID. AND THIS ISN'T THIS IS SOMEBODY THAT WE USUALLY GET COMPLAINTS FROM. SO IT WAS AWESOME TO SEE HER. HER THANKFUL ABOUT IT. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. SO VERY FIRST THING. YOU KNOW, FOR BOATING, WE DO HAVE THE AUXILIARY COAST GUARD THAT COMES HERE EVERY YEAR. AND I THINK THAT'S THE YOU'RE RIGHT ON POINT. THEY WANT TO EDUCATE AND THEY WANT TO PREVENT, YOU KNOW, BOATING AND DRINKING AND THOSE KIND OF ISSUES. BUT YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. I REMEMBER AND I KNOW YOUR PASSION. SO THAT BEING SAID, ON THE ON THE PARK, I THINK THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOME FORM OF PLAN BEFORE IF WE HAVE THAT MANY ACRES. HEY WE GOT FOOTBALL, KIDS. THAT ARE ON WAITING LISTS AND THEY ARE BEING TURNED AWAY. AND WE'VE GOT PICKLEBALL AS WELL. SO YES. I GUESS THAT'S SOMETHING FOR STAFF TO, TO LOOK INTO HOW YOU COULD BEST MAXIMIZE THAT ACREAGE. BUT IT IS A CENTRALIZED LOCATION AND I'M TALKING GREEN SPACE. THAT'S EXACTLY THE NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND AND BY THE WAY, THIS SATURDAY, THERE'LL BE THROWING OUT THE FIRST PITCH AT OUR LITTLE PALM BAY LITTLE LEAGUE EAST. SO THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE PRETTY COOL. I LOVE THE BASEBALL SEASON. SO BUT THAT THAT'S GOT TO BE STUDY. AND I THINK STAFF SHOULD CONSIDER THAT. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. YOU'RE NEXT ON REPORTS. I'VE GOT NOTHING THERE. THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR. THANK YOU MAYOR. I'D LIKE TO APPOINT CHAD STOREY TO THE CITIZEN ACCOUNTABILITY TASK FORCE. A COUPLE OTHER THINGS. GOOD STORY. CHAT STORY. SIR, WE JUST HONORED HIM LAST WEEK. OKAY. HE'S ON THE BOARD. HIS BACKGROUND. HE WAS A COUNTY COMMISSIONER IN TENNESSEE. YES, SIR. AND SERVED ON SOME OTHER MUNICIPAL BOARDS AND BUSINESS IN THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. SO I FELT LIKE HE'D BE A STRONG CANDIDATE. AND HE'S SOMEONE, ACTUALLY THAT'S BEEN SOMEWHAT VOCAL OVER THE LAST YEAR. HE'S TWO YEARS, TWO YEARS DUE TO PALM BAY AND RECEIVED EMAILS FROM HIM OFTEN YOU KNOW, ASKING CHALLENGING QUESTIONS. SO I THINK I THINK HE'D BE A GREAT CANDIDATE FOR, FOR THAT TASK FORCE. AND THAT'S WHY I'M MAKING THE APPOINTMENT. I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM STAFF, MR. MORTON, ON THE RECENT LETTER OR EMAILS REGARDING THE EVENT CENTER AND WHAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE. SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT ME, DO YOU WANT TO COME UP? I'LL JUST DEFER TO DEPUTY CHIEF REAL QUICK. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL. SO THIS HAS BEEN AN ONGOING ISSUE THAT WE'VE HAD AT THE LOCATION JUPITER AND ELDERON PLAZA. BOTH FRIDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHTS. LATE NIGHT EVENTS. IN THE WEE HOURS OF THE MORNING. WE'RE TALKING TWO, THREE, 4:00 IN THE MORNING. THAT'S DRAWING UP A LOT OF OUR RESOURCES. DUE TO THIS LOCATION BEING ALLOWED TO HOLD SPECIAL EVENTS, AND I APOLOGIZE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD A SPECIFIC QUESTION. YEAH. SO I GUESS WHAT IS THE SOLUTION? WHAT WHAT CAN WE DO AS A CITY TO. SO IS THIS THE LOCATION ON ELDERON AND JUPITER AT TURNER SQUARE? [02:00:05] YES, SIR. SO, IRONICALLY, WE HAVE A MEETING SCHEDULED FOR NEXT FRIDAY. IN THE MORNING. FRIDAY MORNING? IT'S INVOLVING A LOT OF CITY DEPARTMENT HEADS TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION FOR THAT. I KNOW THAT COUNCIL A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO MADE A MOTION AND VOTED ON TO CHANGE THAT AREA TO A SPECIAL EVENT ZONE. WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THAT LANGUAGE THAT ALLOWED THIS EVENT TO TAKE PLACE THERE AND WITH TALKING WITH SOME CITY LEADERS AND THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS, I THINK WOULD BE OUR RECOMMENDATION THAT WE ALMOST REVERSE WHAT WAS DONE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, BECAUSE THAT DECISION IS WHAT IS ALLOWING THIS TO TAKE PLACE TODAY, OR CAN WE DEFINE WHAT SPECIAL EVENTS ARE AND EXCLUDE WHAT? AND I BELIEVE IT WAS WITH THAT SPECIAL EVENT. AND MISS JEFFERSON MAY KNOW MORE TO THAT, BUT I BELIEVE THAT ORDINANCE OR THAT AMENDMENT RECLASSIFIED THAT AREA TO JUST ALLOW THAT SPECIFIC ZONE IN THAT AREA TO ALLOW THAT TO OPERATE THAT WAY. AND THAT'S IN THAT STRIP MALL. AND IF I IF I COULD WEIGH IN. DEPUTY MAYOR, THANK THANKS FOR BRINGING THAT UP. I, I FORESEE THIS ISSUE HAPPENING AND COUNCILMAN JOHNSON WILL REMEMBER THAT I SAID THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT PLACE FOR THIS. WE'VE GOT NEIGHBORS BEHIND THERE THAT ARE REALLY GOING TO BE UPSET OVER EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON. AND NOW THE CURRENT CRIMINAL ACTIVITY THAT'S BEEN GOING ON. SO I WOULD BE AND I'LL PUBLICLY SAY THIS, I WOULD BE ONE OF THOSE THAT WOULD REVERSE THAT. THAT VOTE THAT HAPPENED A FEW YEARS AGO. WILL REVERSAL END IT NOW OR WILL THEY BE GRANDFATHERED IN? AND IF SO, ARE WE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT A CURFEW FOR THAT AREA, WHICH. SO I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK JUST YET UNTIL THAT MEETING IS TAKING PLACE. BECAUSE I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, I DON'T KNOW ALL THE PARTICULARS WITH WHAT THAT CHANGE DID. I JUST KNOW THAT IT WAS THAT MOMENT THAT ALLOWED THE EVENT TO TAKE PLACE THERE. AND WE'VE HAD ISSUES SINCE THEN. SO AND I BELIEVE THE MAYOR HAS THE ABILITY TO ACT A SPECIAL EMERGENCY AND PLACE A CURFEW AND, AND PARTICULAR AREAS OF THE CITY. SO BE SOMETHING THAT'D BE WORTH LOOKING INTO, IF DEFINITELY OPEN TO THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED TO LET MISS ALTHEA SPEAK, BUT ONCE MISS ALTHEA GOT UP, I. WE WANT TO HEAR FROM HER. OKAY. GOOD EVENING. SO, TWO THINGS. THE VOTE YOU TOOK A FEW YEARS BACK TO ALLOW THE SPECIAL EVENT SPACE AS A CONDITIONAL USE. THE DEPUTY MAYOR. VICE MAYOR IS CORRECT. IT WOULD THEN JUST BE A NON-CONFORMING USE AT THAT POINT BECAUSE IT ALREADY EXISTS. YOU ALSO SPOKE TO SPECIAL EVENTS, AND RIGHT NOW, APPARENTLY THE GENTLEMAN WAS IN MY OFFICE TODAY, ACTUALLY. AND APPARENTLY HE'S COMPLAINING ABOUT THE RESTAURANT THAT'S ON THE SAME PROPERTY WHO IS HAVING TWERKING CONTESTS AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT AT THE LOCATION. WHAT CONTEST? DANCING CONTEST. YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE ME SAY THAT WORD AGAIN? TWERKING. I DIDN'T GET IT. I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T MEAN TO. SORRY. AND SO, IN MY ESTIMATION AT THIS MEETING, AND I WAS GOING TO BRING UP THE FACT THAT THE RESTAURANT IS PROBABLY EXCEEDING ITS OCCUPANCY LOAD, WHICH COULD ALSO BE AN ISSUE. BUT WHEN THEY ARE HOLDING SPECIAL EVENT CONTESTS LIKE THIS, THEY REALLY ARE OPERATING OUTSIDE OF THEIR APPROVED USE. SO THAT'S AN ISSUE AS WELL. SO IT WOULDN'T JUST BE CORSICA THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. WE'D BE LOOKING AT THE RESTAURANT WITHIN THAT PLAZA AS WELL. THAT'S APPARENTLY CAUSING SOME ISSUES. OKAY. I'VE GOT COUNCILMAN HAMMER WANTING TO WEIGH IN. AREN'T THERE ORDINANCES THAT WITHOUT EVEN TOUCHING THAT AREN'T THERE ORDINANCES THAT CAN BE PUT IN THAT LIMIT? NOT JUST THE PARKING THERE, BUT THE PARKING ALONG THE ROAD, THE THE TIME THAT THAT PEOPLE ARE OUT THERE WITHOUT AFFECTING THIS, YOU CAN DO A SEPARATE ORDINANCE JUST FOR SPECIAL EVENTS THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO GET A PERMIT TO, TO EVEN DO THIS. ISN'T THERE SOMETHING THAT EXISTS FOR THAT? BECAUSE I KNOW YOU CAN GET SPECIAL EVENTS PERMITS. CAN'T YOU REQUIRE SOMETHING LIKE THIS THAT THAT MAKES IT TO WHERE YOU CAN'T PARK ON THE ROAD FOR THIS, FOR THINGS LIKE THAT, BECAUSE IT IS A HINDRANCE WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING AROUND THE CORNER, THERE'S CARS PARKED ON THE RIGHT OF WAY. AND THAT'S BASICALLY THE USE OF A SPECIAL EVENTS PERMIT IS TO GIVE YOU ACCESS TO THIS BUILDING. AND WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE THE WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE THE OCCUPANCY FOR THE PARKING LOT, NOT JUST THE BUILDING, BECAUSE I THINK THE BUILDING THEY'RE OKAY WITH, IT'S THE OCCUPANCY FOR THE PARKING LOT. [02:05:06] NOW, ISN'T THERE AN ORDINANCE YOU CAN PASS THAT THAT MAKES IT TO WHERE THESE HAVE TO BE PERMITTED? WE DO HAVE AN ORDINANCE. WE HAVE PARKING REQUIREMENTS. SO THE MAYOR IS RIGHT. HE HAD THE FORESIGHT THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE AN ISSUE WHEN WE ALLOWED THIS USE AS A CONDITIONAL USE AT THIS LOCATION. IT'S NOT A TYPICAL LOCATION FOR A USE LIKE THAT FOR A SPECIAL EVENT CENTER, BECAUSE THE PARKING IS INADEQUATE. WE'D HAVE TO BASICALLY THERE THEY CAN HAVE THE PARKING THAT THEY HAVE THAT'S THERE IN PLACE. AS FAR AS PARKING ON THE STREET, YOU CAN TICKET THEM. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT, WHICH IS OVERSEEN BY RECREATION DEPARTMENT, I THINK, AND A TEMPORARY USE. AND WE CAN TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE FOR TEMPORARY USES. AND MAYBE THAT'S ANOTHER WAY TO GO. AT THIS, YOU CAN ESTABLISH THAT TEMPORARY USES CAN ONLY BE HELD AS A SPECIAL EVENT SO MANY TIMES A YEAR AT A GIVEN LOCATION AND THAT IF THERE ARE ANY ISSUES WITH THE POLICE DRUGS, ANY SORT OF ILLEGAL ACTIVITY THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO DENY THAT TEMPORARY USE PERMIT. SO THERE ARE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT WAYS I THINK WE CAN TACKLE IT. AND AND MAYBE OUR CITY ATTORNEY, WE CAN GET TOGETHER AND TALK THROUGH SOME OF THIS BECAUSE I KNOW THERE ARE A NUMBER OF EVENTS THAT EVEN THEY TRY TO HOLD IT PARKS. AND WHEN THE CITY DEEMS THEM AS SOMETHING THAT THAT WOULD BE TOO MUCH OF A BURDEN OR IF THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE GOING ON IN THE AREA, FOR EXAMPLE SAY THEY WANT TO HAVE A BIG CONCERT AT FRED POPPY PARK, BUT THEIR SOCCER, YOU CAN SAY YOU CAN'T BE DOING THIS BECAUSE THEY'RE SOCCER THAT DAY. AND AS A CITY, WE DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO KEEP TRACK OF THAT. FOR ONE THING, YOU CAN SAY, OKAY, WELL, WE CAN'T APPROVE THIS BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THE PARKING. SO, I MEAN, I KNOW IT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE WITHOUT COUNCIL BECAUSE SEVERAL TIMES PEOPLE HAVE CAME. I MEAN, I'VE GOTTEN PHONE CALLS ABOUT NOT BEING ABLE TO DO EVENTS IN THE CITY BECAUSE THEY'RE SOCCER. SO, I MEAN, I KNOW WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO IT. I JUST KNOW THERE'S A METHOD AND I DON'T KNOW IT. I THINK IT'S ENCOURAGING. STAFF'S GOT A MEETING ON IT NEXT FRIDAY, SO LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING BACK FROM YOU GUYS ON ON A SOLUTION. YES, SIR. I THINK YOUR TIMING WAS GREAT BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN AN ISSUE THAT WE'VE REALLY STARTED TO IDENTIFY LAST COUPLE WEEKS. WE'RE GOING TO MEET ON IT. THIS INVOLVES A LOT OF CITY DEPARTMENTS. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE GOOD KNOWLEDGE OF IT, INCLUDE THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, AND BE ABLE TO COME BACK TO YOU WITH A SOLID PLAN. COUNCILMAN WINJE. YEAH. NO, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS UP, DEPUTY MAYOR. AND I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY I YEAH, WE DROVE BY THIS ON WHEN I DID MY RIDE ALONG WITH PD, AND I REMEMBER LOOKING AT IT AT THE TIME AND I WAS, THIS IS A WILD PLACE TO, TO HAVE. THIS IS LIKE IN THE MIDDLE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD. SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY I SUPPORT YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT A MEETING, WE'LL BRING IT BACK AND GET ALL THE DETAILS. BUT I'M SUPPORTIVE OF WHATEVER WE DECIDE TO GO ON TO. AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE A POINT WITH COUNCILMAN HAMMERS POINT THAT WE DO HAVE APPLICATIONS FOR WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT GO THROUGH RECREATION. THIS PARTICULAR AREA IS EXEMPT FROM THAT. AND THAT'S THE ISSUE THAT WE HAVE THAT WE'RE RUNNING INTO EMERGENCY ORDER. YEAH. SO RIGHT NOW JUST SO THAT, YOU KNOW DEPUTY CHIEF THERE'S CONSENSUS ON THIS DAIS FOR AN EMERGENCY ORDER, IF THAT'S THE AVENUE, WE. YEAH. WELL, WELL, WELL, EITHER WAY, WE NEED TO FIX THIS, RIGHT? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT EMERGENCY ORDER FOR THIS WEEKEND, LIKE NOW? NO NO NO NO NO NO NO, SIR NO, SIR. I APPRECIATE THAT, BY THE WAY. I KNEW IT WOULDN'T. IT SHOULDN'T HAVE NEVER TAKEN PLACE. OKAY, BUT CARRY ON. YOU'VE GOT OTHER ITEMS. ANOTHER QUESTION FOR STAFF, NOT THE DEPUTY CHIEF, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY'S DRIVEN DOWN PALM BAY ROAD LATELY AND LOOKED AT THE CRYSTAL PALACE PROJECT WHERE THEY STARTED THE DEMOLITION. IT SEEMS LIKE A FEW MONTHS AGO. AND THEN IT'S THROUGH EVERYTHING OUTSIDE THE BUILDING. I'D LIKE TO JUST HEAR WHERE. WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THAT? THANK YOU. WHAT IS THE SOLUTION? THANK YOU. YES, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT. JASON, DO YOU WANT TO GIVE AN UPDATE OR IS IT SCOTT? YEAH, YEAH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS AS WELL AND NOTICED THAT ABOUT A WEEK IN THAT IT LOOKED LIKE THINGS WERE JUST THROWN OUT THE WINDOW AND LAYING ON THE GROUND. SO I HEARD ABOUT THIS FROM MY STAFF A FEW DAYS AGO. SO WE ACTUALLY WENT OUT THERE AND POSTED STOP WORK ORDERS, A NOTICE OF VIOLATIONS TO START REMOVING THE DEBRIS AND GETTING GETTING IT PICKED UP. BUT I HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING FROM THEM WHATSOEVER. WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO THEM TO NO AVAIL. SO WHAT IS THE MECHANISM THE CITY HAS IN PLACE IF, SAY, THEY DON'T REPLY? WELL, WE DO HAVE CODE PROCESS. [02:10:05] WE ALSO HAVE THE, YOU KNOW, WITH JOHN OUT. BUT I'D WANT TO CHECK ON THE BUDGET. BUT YOU DID PUT THE PRACTICE IN PLACE WHERE WE CAN GO REMOVE CONSTRUCTION DEBRIS. I THINK THIS WOULD QUALIFY UNDER THOSE TERMS. IT'S OBVIOUSLY A HIGH VISIBILITY, HIGH RISK. AND SO I KNOW THERE WAS STILL MONEY IN THAT BUDGET TO TO PURSUE A CLEANUP. IF WE CAN'T GET THE ENFORCEMENT, I'M SURE IT'S A LITTLE LONGER OF A PROCESS. BUT MY CONVERSATIONS LAST WEEK BEFORE MR. PEARSON HAD TO LEAVE HE'S DEFINITELY GOT HIS HEAD AROUND THIS. HE'S WORKING WITH WITH OUR STAFF TO TRACK THEM DOWN AND THEN APPROPRIATELY BEGIN THE DIFFERENT PROCESSES THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW TO EITHER GET THEM TO CLEAN OR TO GO CLEAN UP OURSELVES AND SEND THEM A BILL. SO IN A NUTSHELL, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE WHERE WE'RE AT. WE'VE STILL GOT SOME RUNWAY, THOUGH. TO GET THROUGH THE PROCESS. WE HAVE TO WORK THROUGH. CAN WE LOOK AT IF IF WE GO THAT ROUTE, CITY GOES OUT, PAYS USING THAT FUNDS TO CLEAN UP AND REMOVE THE DEBRIS. I ASSUME THAT WE APPLY A LEAN TO THE PROPERTY. CORRECT. CAN WE CREATE AN ORDINANCE THAT STATES IF A CITY HAS A LIEN ON AN EXISTING PROJECT, IT TERMINATES YOUR BUILDING PERMIT AND YOUR USABLE RIGHTS TO THE BUILDING ELIMINATES THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER? THAT I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S A CITY. LET ME LOOK INTO THAT. I WOULD BE UNCOMFORTABLE ANSWERING THAT JUST OFF THE SPOT. THANK YOU. WELL, THAT. DOES THAT CONCLUDE? YEAH. JUST ONE LAST COMMENT. IT WAS IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION. AND I'M NOT I'M NOT MAKING ACCUSATIONS, JUST SHARING THE INFORMATION ALONG. BUT IT'S BEEN BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT THERE'S BEEN AN APPEARANCE OF MEMBERS OF THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION ON A GROUP CHAT TEXT MESSAGE DURING THE MEETING. SO DURING THEIR DURING THEIR CHARTER REVIEW MEETING, MORE THAN THREE MEMBERS, 2 OR 3 MEMBERS ON THAT TEXT THREAD. NOT SAYING THAT THEY'RE VIOLATING THE SUNSHINE, BUT THE OPTICS AREN'T GREAT. AND SO I JUST WANT TO SHARE THAT PUBLICLY AND JUST ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY TO TO LOOK INTO THAT AND MAYBE HANDLE THAT AT THE NEXT CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION MEETING. THANK YOU. THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT. WELL THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR, YOU'RE SPOT ON. AND AND THAT BRINGS ME TO THE THE ISSUE THAT'S DOWN. PINE TREE BEHIND 711 OFF OF PALM BAY ROAD, RIGHT. IS THAT WHAT IS IT CALLED? PINE TREE? THAT THAT STREET, THAT THAT FACILITY THAT IS ABANDONED HAS BEEN ABANDONED FOR QUITE SOME TIME. PINEWOOD. AS YOU WERE. PINEWOOD. A TREE HAS WOOD. SO PINEWOOD. HAVE WE LOOKED INTO THAT? BECAUSE IT'S STILL THE SAME WHICH PROMPTED ME THIS PAST WEEKEND TO GO BY THERE AT ONCE. I SAW THAT WITH CRYSTAL PALACE. SO IT SEEMS THAT NO ONE'S DOING ANYTHING OUT THERE. ARE WE GOING TO FLATTEN THAT OUT OR. WHAT'S THE STORY THERE? IF YOU ALLOW US TO BRING A REPORT BACK, I JUST WANT TO DOUBLE CHECK WITH MR. PEARSON WHERE WE WERE AT AND WHERE WE ARE AT IN THE PROCESS. AND I KNOW THAT WAS DEFINITELY ON OUR LIST. AND I KNOW HE GAVE A REPORT THAT HE HAD EXPENDED A PREDOMINANT PORTION OF THE FUNDS AND WAS TAKING A SLIGHT PAUSE TO JUST SEE HOW IT WAS WORKING OUT. SO WE'LL BRING A REPORT BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING. ALL RIGHT. I'VE GOT COUNCILMAN HAMMER THAT WANTS TO WEIGH IN, I GUESS. FOR DID YOU. IF YOU GIVE ME ONE SECOND. I JUST SPOKE WITH HIM A WEEK AGO, GETTING AN UPDATE. HIS UPDATE WAS WE HAD A MEETING WITH THE CONTRACTOR LAST WEEK. WE HAVE SET UP A RECURRING MONTHLY MEETING WITH THEM TO TRACK PROGRESS. OUR NEXT MEETING IS SCHEDULED FOR MARCH 12TH. WE HAVE REVIEWED THE PERMIT APPLICATIONS THAT WERE SUBMITTED AND WE ARE AWAITING CORRECTIONS FROM THEIR DESIGN PROFESSIONAL, WHO WAS ALSO IN ATTENDANCE AT THE MEETING. WE RECEIVED ASSURANCE FROM THEM THAT THEIR INTENTION IS TO HAVE THE PERMITS AND START CONSTRUCTION AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, AND THAT WAS ON FEBRUARY 18TH. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO I'M ON MY REPORTS. AND GENTLEMEN, I JUST I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE THE FIRST PURPLE HEART CITY IN, IN OUR, IN OUR COUNTY. AND I REALLY AM GRATEFUL FOR EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU. YOUR RESOUNDING THUMBS UP. SO THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT, MR. MORTON. YES, SIR. ONE ITEM OF BUSINESS AND FOUR ITEMS OF GRATEFULNESS. [ADMINISTRATIVE AND LEGAL REPORTS:] SO I'LL START WITH THE BUSINESS ITEM TONIGHT. IT IS NOT A REQUIREMENT. HOWEVER, COUNCIL HAD EXPRESSED A DESIRE TO HAVE A COUNCIL MEMBER SIT ON THE STATE LOBBYIST REVIEW COMMITTEE. WE'VE HAD SOME CHALLENGES THERE, AND I CAN LET MAYOR MEDINA ADDRESS, BUT HE'S NOT ABLE TO TO CONTINUE ON. IT'S A VERY SHORT TURNAROUND. NOW, AT THIS POINT, WE WOULD NEED SOMEBODY, IF THEY'RE WILLING AND AVAILABLE, TO RESPOND AND COME IN TO CITY HALL NEXT WEEK FOR A TRAINING AND, AND SIT AND DO THE EVALUATIONS. WE'RE REALLY RUNNING OUT OF TIME. SO WE'RE JUST LOOKING TO MAKE SURE THAT COUNCIL HAS THAT OPPORTUNITY. IF THEY SO DESIRE TO PUT SOMEONE. OTHERWISE, WE WILL APPOINT ANOTHER MEMBER OF STAFF ONTO THAT COMMITTEE AND CHARGE AHEAD AND BRING BACK A REPORT. AND SO, GENTLEMEN, JUST SO THAT, YOU KNOW, AS, AS YOU KNOW, DURING MY MAYOR'S BALLS PEOPLE CONTRIBUTE. [02:15:03] SO JUST THE APPEARANCE OF SOMEONE THAT'S ON THAT LIST. I DISCOVERED WHO WAS ON THAT LIST OF CANDIDATES. AND I SAID, WELL, THEY CONTRIBUTED TO THE MAYOR'S BALL. I, I'M DEFINITELY NOT GOING TO JEOPARDIZE THAT. COULD THAT COULD BE CONSTRUED AS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST, EVEN THOUGH I DIDN'T GAIN PERSONALLY FROM IT. BUT IT WAS SOMETHING THAT I WAS FUNDRAISING FOR. AND SO I, I OPTED TO STAND UP FROM THAT DESK AND SAY, I'M NOT MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS. WELL, I'LL PUT IT BACK TO COUNCIL AND AND SEE. SO GENTLEMEN, WHOEVER FEELS COMFORTABLE I, I RECOMMEND THAT YOU TAKE THAT RESPONSIBILITY, AND I'M AGAIN. I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T KNOW THE FINALIST OF THAT. YOU KNOW, THAT CONTRACT, I DIDN'T I DIDN'T FORESEE I DIDN'T GET THE LIST UNTIL THE DAY I WENT IN FOR TRAINING. SO, MAYOR, COUNCIL DOESN'T TYPICALLY SIT ON ANY OTHER SELECTION PROCESSES, I WOULD BE MORE THAN OKAY WITH CITY MANAGER DIRECTING ANOTHER STAFF MEMBER TO TO FILL THAT ROLE, BECAUSE WE'RE ALL GOING TO VOTE ON IT ANYWAYS. I'M GOOD. I'M GOOD WITH THAT AS WELL. YEAH I AGREE. ALL RIGHT. COOL. THERE YOU GO, SIR. AWESOME. THANK YOU. WE GOT A WE GOT A GENTLEMAN ON THE COUNCIL THAT THAT IS VERY TALL, BUT HE WALKS EVEN TALLER. AND SOMETIMES I DON'T THINK, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE REALIZES THEIR IMPACT. AND OVER THE LAST YEAR, AS I'VE SORT OF COACHED MY DAUGHTER ALONG, I WAS ABLE TO SHARE A LOT OF STORIES THAT COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN HAS SHARED WITH ME ABOUT HIS TIME AS A CORPSMAN AND ALL THE OPPORTUNITIES HE HAD TO SERVE AND WHAT IT'S DONE FOR HIM. AND I HAD SHARED THOSE STORIES WITH MY DAUGHTER AND UNBEKNOWNST TO ME, THAT INSPIRED HER. AND SHE CALLED ME THIS MORNING AND LET ME KNOW SHE'S IN THE PROCESS OF ENLISTING IN THE UNITED STATES ARMY TO BE A MEDIC. SO I JUST WANT TO THANK COUNCIL FOR O. COUNCILMAN COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN. YOU DIDN'T DO A GREAT JOB. I'M SORRY, MR. MORTON. I KNEW THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, JUST THE THE INFLUENCE WE DON'T EVEN REALIZE WE HAVE. SO I APPRECIATE HIS CANDOR AND THE GREAT CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD AND HOW THAT INSPIRED MY DAUGHTER. IT'S JUST AWESOME. I'M EXCITED AND PROUD, AS YOU GUYS CAN IMAGINE. MARINE CORPS. I DON'T KNOW WHY SHE CHOSE THE ARMY. I'M NOT GOING TO ASK. I'M SURE YOU GUYS WILL KICK THAT AROUND. SECOND GRATEFUL SHOUT OUT AND THANK YOU TO DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE. YOU KNOW, THE MAN WORKS. HE'S GOT A FAMILY. HE COACHES LITTLE LEAGUE, ON AND ON AND ON AND ON. BUT HE FINDS A LOT OF TIME HE'S GIVEN US. TO YOUR POINT, COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN. SECOND, TONIGHT, A TON OF EXPERTISE AND KNOWLEDGE ON PROCESS AND DEVELOPMENT AND BIDDING AND ALL THESE THINGS THAT JUST HELP FILL GAPS, THAT WE DON'T HAVE A STAFF AND HAVE REALLY HELPED US SHARPEN OUR PENCIL AND DO AND CONTINUE TO DO A BETTER JOB. SO I KNOW WE'RE ALL GRATEFUL WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE MEETING, HOW GRATEFUL WE'VE BEEN FOR YOUR TIME THAT YOU SO GRACIOUSLY ALSO GIVE BEHIND THE SCENES TO HELP US DO A BETTER JOB FOR THE COMMUNITY. SO REALLY, REALLY THANKFUL FOR THAT. I'M RUNNING OUT OF TIME TO SAY IT. I'M A LITTLE IRRITATED. I'M A LITTLE UPSET. I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A LONG TIME NOW. I WAS LOOKING BACK ON 27 YEARS IN GOVERNMENT AND IT'S JUST A FACT OF THE FINEST, THE FINEST POLICEMEN I'VE EVER WORKED WITH, CHIEF MARIO ANGELO. HE'S JUST GOT A CHARACTER AND A UNIQUENESS ABOUT HIM WE WERE ALL TALKING ABOUT TODAY AND STUFF. I'M BUMMED THAT I ONLY HAD A YEAR TO WORK WITH YOU, SIR. IT'S REALLY MAKING ME SAD. SO I'M SAYING IT TONIGHT SO I CAN SAY IT MORE CLEAR AT THE CHANGING OF THE GUARD CEREMONY HERE. COMING UP. JUST A UNIQUE MAN, UNIQUE CHARACTER LEADER. HAS INSPIRED SO MANY, HAS INSPIRED ME IN MY YEAR WORKING WITH HIM. REALLY, REALLY GOING TO MISS HIM. ALSO EXCITED FOR DC OF COURSE, AND WE'RE DEVELOPING A GREAT RELATIONSHIP. BUT I'M GOING TO BE VERY CLEAR BECAUSE SOMEONE ASKED ME WHY AND CALLED ME OUT. YES, I'VE INVITED THE PD, I'VE INVITED FIRE, I'VE INVITED OUR STAFF AS THE COMMUNITY IS INVITED TO COME. IT'S A MOMENTOUS DAY TO CELEBRATE A LEGACY OF LEADERSHIP FROM CHIEF ANGELO AND TO WELCOME A NEW LEGACY LEADERSHIP WITH CHIEF SPEARS. SO I HAVE INVITED STAFF TO COME TO THAT EVENT, AND I PROUDLY HAVE DONE THAT. LASTLY IT IS EMPLOYEE APPRECIATION DAY, AND THANKS TO LYNN AND MY OFFICE FOR PUTTING TOGETHER SOME NOTES AND SOME CARDS, I HAVE SOMETHING I'M SUPPOSED TO READ, APPARENTLY. OKAY, THERE'S ONE THING. I GUESS IT'S ANOTHER REQUEST, SO WE'LL GET TO THAT IN A SECOND. SO I JUST WANT TO REALLY BE GRATEFUL AND THANK YOU FOR STAFF FOR ALL THAT YOU DO. I KNOW WE ONLY HAVE SOME OF YOU IN THE ROOM, BUT WE'VE BEEN DOING OUR TOUR AND EXPLAINING DOGE TO OUR, OUR STAFF AND THE THREE BINS OF DOGE, AS COUNCILMAN HAMMER ALLUDED TO. IT'S FISCAL. IT'S ALSO TRANSPARENCY. AND IT'S ALSO HOW ARE WE DOING A BETTER JOB FOCUSED, CUSTOMER SERVICE FOCUSED FACED. AND SO HAD A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE OUR END GOAL WITH STAFF AND GET THEM MOTIVATED, GET THEM ON THE BUS AND JUST REALLY APPRECIATIVE FOR OUR TEAM. LASTLY, APPARENTLY I'VE BEEN ASKED TO HAVE CHIEF STOVER COME UP TO SHARE AN AUDIO FILE THAT WAS INTENDED TO BE PLAYED AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING. AND APPARENTLY WE DID NOT HEAR IT HERE, BUT PEOPLE AT HOME HEARD NINE VERSIONS AT ONCE AND COULD NOT MAKE IT OUT. SO WE'RE GOING TO TRY AGAIN TO PLAY SOME BRIEF AUDIO CLIPS. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR DOING THAT, CHIEF. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR INDULGENCE. COUNCIL. OKAY. I NEED MULTIPLE UNITS ON DAY THREE. WE HAVE MULTIPLE HOUSES IN DANGER AT THIS TIME OF DAY. [02:20:01] 1973. DAY. FIRE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD. OKAY. WHAT THAT WAS. THERE WAS ONE OF OUR MOST SEASONED LIEUTENANTS ON ONE OF THE FIRST ARRIVING UNITS, GIVING A SIZE UP ON WHAT HE SAW THERE AND WHAT HE WAS SAYING HE WAS GOING TO NEED FOR ADDITIONAL RESOURCES TO GET OUT THERE TO, TO BE ABLE TO PREVENT THE PROPERTY LOSS AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY WAS SAFE OUT THERE. THAT WAS THE FIRST CLIP. GOOD FOR PALM BAY PD, 1961 DAY THERE'S A JUVENILE IN THE YARD. THEY'RE UNABLE TO MAKE ACCESS DUE TO THE FLAMES. NOW, WHEN THEY'RE SAYING THAT THERE'S A CHILD THAT WAS TRAPPED. DID YOU COPY THAT? CAN YOU GET EYES? I DID COPY. I'VE ASKED THEM TO LEAVE SEVERAL TIMES. I'LL BE RUNNING BACK THAT WAY. THEY WERE ABLE TO SAFELY GET THE CHILD OUT OF THE AREA WHERE HE WAS TRAPPED WITHIN THE FIRE AREA, AND GET HIM OUT OF THERE BEFORE ANY HARM WAS DONE TO THE CHILD. THAT'S ALL YOU DO. IT'S ALREADY JUMPED THE CANAL. IT'S COMING YOUR WAY. NOT RIGHT THERE. I'M ALREADY HAVING THESE HOMES EVACUATE. THAT'S WHERE WE STARTED TO GIVE THE EVACUATION NOTICE FOR THE HOUSES THERE. AND AS WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME, THERE'S A CITIZEN INSIDE OF THEIR HOUSE WATCHING THAT COME TOWARDS THEM. AND WE HAD WE HAD MADE THE DECISION THAT SOME OF THESE HOUSES WERE GOING TO BE LOST, BUT THE CREWS DID NOT WANT TO HAVE ANY PART OF THAT. SO THEY WERE ABLE TO GET IN THERE AND MAKE SURE NONE OF THE HOUSES WERE, IN FACT, LOST. THAT'S WHAT THOSE THREE CLIPS WERE. WE APOLOGIZE FOR THE AUDIO PROBLEMS THAT HAPPENED, BUT SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, COMPUTERS JUST DON'T COOPERATE WITH HUMANS. SO THAT'S EVERYTHING. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. COUNCIL. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. MADAM ATTORNEY. YES, MAYOR. I HAVE TWO ITEMS. FIRST ITEM IS THE CITY COUNCIL HAD PREVIOUSLY CONSIDERED CENTER POINT HAD AN APPLICATION FOR REZONING THAT WAS DENIED THREE TWO. THEY THEN CHALLENGED THE DENIAL USING THE LAND USE AND ENVIRONMENTAL DISPUTE RESOLUTION PROCESS PREVIOUSLY CAME FORTH. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON WAS THE CITY'S REP. WE RECENTLY HAD A MEDIATION. JUST WANTED TO ANNOUNCE. SO EVERYONE IS AWARE THAT THE RESULTS FROM THAT MEDIATION WILL BE COMING BACK AT THE NEXT REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. SO THAT WILL BE ON THE AGENDA. THE RESULTS FROM THAT MEDIATION AND THE NEXT REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING, WHICH IS THE 19TH. THE SECOND ITEM IS THAT I DO NEED TO HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTION 286 .011, SUBSECTION EIGHT, FLORIDA STATUTES. AND THAT'S ON THE AQUA VERSUS BCRA AND CITY OF PALM BAY CASE NUMBER FIVE 2025 DASH 3749. THIS IS A CASE THAT IS ON APPEAL. WE ACTUALLY JUST COMPLETED AN APPELLATE MEDIATION. I'M ASKING IF WE CAN, ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A COUNCIL DAY, I CAN'T GET OUR APPELLATE COUNSEL THERE. IF I CAN GET A MAJORITY OF YOU FOR THE 26TH, WHICH WOULD BE THE THURSDAY AFTER THE 19TH, TO SEE IF I HAVE WHO WHO'S AVAILABLE FOR THE 26TH. I'M OKAY FOR THAT. I GOT I THINK I HAVE CIVIL THAT NIGHT. SO CAN YOU. LAST TIME WE SPOKE THE 19TH IS NOT GOOD. THE 19TH IS NOT GOOD FOR APPELLATE COUNSEL. I MEAN, I COULD BE THERE. I DO THINK THIS IS A CASE THAT AND I CAN TELL YOU WHAT APPELLATE COUNSEL HAS SAID, BUT I THINK IT MAY BE WORTH IT TO BE ABLE TO HEAR FROM APPELLATE COUNSEL PERSONALLY. BUT IF YOU ALL WOULD RATHER DO IT THE 19TH. I WILL CERTAINLY CONVEY TO YOU WHAT I HAVE RECEIVED FROM APPELLATE COUNSEL, BUT APPELLATE COUNSEL WILL NOT BE ABLE TO BE PRESENT FOR THE 19TH. SO THE 26 IS THE ONLY TIME YOU HAVE HAVE THE ALSO HAD TO DEAL WITH COUNCIL CHAMBERS BEING AVAILABLE THE NINTH, 10TH, 11TH AND THE 26TH. THE 10TH, NINTH IS THIS COMING MONDAY THAT SPACE LEAGUE OF CITIES. THEN THE 10TH IS THE CITIZENS ADVISORY OR THE CITIZENS ACADEMY. AT WHAT TIME? ON THE 10TH. HOW LONG DO YOU THINK IT WILL LAST? PROBABLY 30 MINUTES. 30 TO 40 MINUTES. O NEGATIVE, MA'AM. [02:25:04] I CAN'T DO THAT. AND THE 11TH IS A NO. IS THAT CORRECT? NO. THE 11TH IS AVAILABLE. OKAY. SO CAN WE DO THE 11TH? DO I HAVE TWO OTHER PEOPLE THAT CAN DO THE 11TH? YEAH. NIGHT TIME. YEAH. EVENING. FIVE 3535 JOHNSON ARE YOU STILL ON BOARD? GOT MAYOR LANGEVIN. WAS THERE A THIRD PERSON FOR THE THAT'S WEDNESDAY, THAT'S NEXT WEDNESDAY. GENTLEMAN. IS IS JOHNSON NOT ON BOARD? HOW MANY ARE YOU? NOT AVAILABLE. AND SO THE 12TH IS NOT AVAILABLE EITHER? NO. THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS, I THINK, IS TAKEN ON. MA'AM, WE'RE. IS THIS A SPECIAL EXECUTIVE MEETING? IT'S AN EXECUTIVE SESSION. EXECUTIVE. DON'T WE MEET IN THIS CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE ANYWAY? WE MEET HERE, THEN WE GO TO THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. WE COULD JUST SAY, OKAY, WE'RE STARTING THE MEETING AND JUST GO UPSTAIRS. I THINK THERE'S ALREADY SOMETHING IN HERE AT THAT TIME. THERE ISN'T SIX. YOU COULD POSSIBLY DO IT IF YOU DID IT. 530. ON WHAT DAY? THAT WOULD BE THURSDAY, MARCH 12TH. ON THE 12TH. IS IT AT 530? YES. IF YOU DID IT AT 530. THE ONLY THING THAT WE'RE GOING TO RUN INTO IS WE HAVE OUR TPO MEETING ON THURSDAY THE 12TH. SO IS IT 330? IF WE LEAVE AT 330 THEN IT WOULD WORK. ARE WE GOOD? THURSDAY THE 12TH, 530. I'M 5050 RIGHT NOW. OKAY, BUT YOU HAVE THREE. DO I HAVE THREE? SO MAYOR AND COUNCILMAN. EMRE. HE SAYS HE THINKS HE'S GOOD. SO LET'S SHOOT FOR THE 12TH. AT 530. OKAY. THE PERSON WHO WILL BE ATTENDING ARE THE MAYOR, MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER, MORTON, CITY ATTORNEY SMITH, ATTORNEY SARAH PALLENBERG, AND A CERTIFIED COURT REPORTER. AND THAT IS WHAT DID WE SAY FOR THE 12TH 12TH MARCH 12TH MARCH 12TH AT 530. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, THAT'S IT. THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.