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          IT IS NOW 1800 HOURS. I'M GOING TO CALL THIS REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING 2026 DASH TEN TO
ORDER. 
          [CALL TO ORDER:]
THE INVOCATION WILL BE PROVIDED BY PASTOR KEN DELGADO OF THE HOUSE CHURCH IN PALM BAY,
AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WILL BE LED BY COUNCILMAN MIKE HAMMER. CAN WE ALL RISE, PLEASE? AS WE JOIN HEARTS,
FATHER, WE RECOGNIZE THE REALITY THAT THERE ARE SOLDIERS,
MILITARY PEOPLE THAT ARE IN HARM'S WAY THROUGHOUT THE GLOBE AND THE CONFLICT WITH IRAN. WE'RE ASKING, FATHER,
THAT YOUR GRACE WOULD BE UPON ALL OUR SOLDIERS, ALL OUR MILITARY PEOPLE, AND ALL OF THE BRANCHES THAT YOUR ANGELS WOULD ENCAMP ROUND ABOUT
THEM. 
          THAT THOSE WHO ARE INNOCENT. IN IRAN WOULD BE PROTECTED SUPERNATURALLY,
THAT THERE WOULD BE PEACE IN THAT AREA. AS WE ASK FOR PEACE IN UKRAINE, AS WE ASK FOR PEACE IN THE WALLS OF JERUSALEM. 
          THANK YOU FATHER. WE ASK FOR THE WISDOM THAT OUR PRESIDENT NEEDS,
THAT HE WOULD HEAR WISE COUNSEL, AND THAT THE COUNSEL THAT HE RECEIVES IS FROM WISE PEOPLE WHO FEAR GOD AND ESCHEW EVIL. 
          WE ASK THAT YOU GIVE WISDOM TO ALL THOSE REPRESENTATIVES IN CONGRESS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO
OUR CITY, OUR MAYOR, OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS, OUR CITY MANAGER,
THOSE WHO WORK HERE. 
          YOUR WISDOM WOULD REST ON THEM, THAT YOUR GRACE WOULD COME ON THESE UNITED STATES AND ON
THIS CITY, THE CITY OF PALM BAY, AS IT HAS BEEN PROCLAIMED THAT THIS WOULD BE THE GREATEST CITY ON
THE FACE OF THE EARTH. 
          LET IT BE SO, FATHER. BECAUSE YOUR GRACE, YOUR MERCY,
YOUR HAND OF BLESSING IS ON THIS PLACE AND ON ITS PEOPLE. 
          WE PRAY FOR THE SOULS OF PEOPLE THAT THEY WOULD FIND PEACE,
EVEN AS WE BIND EVERY WORK OF THE ENEMY. 
          WE'RE ASKING FOR YOUR POWER TO BE DEMONSTRATED THAT YOUR NAME WOULD BE PROCLAIMED,
AND THAT THERE WOULD BE, EVEN AS THE ANGEL SAID, PEACE ON EARTH AND GOODWILL TO ALL MEN. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT WISDOM THAT YOU'RE DEPOSITING HERE RIGHT NOW IN OUR COUNCIL
MEMBERS. 
          THANK YOU. WISE DECISIONS ARE BEING MADE THAT YOUR HOLY SPIRIT'S IN CONTROL. 
          AS WE ACKNOWLEDGE YOU IN ALL OF OUR WAYS, WE'RE JUST ASKING. 
          DIRECT OUR PATHS, OUR FOOTSTEPS. CAUSE YOUR BLESSING TO BE MANIFESTED IN THE POWER OF
JESUS NAME. 
          AMEN. AMEN, AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD,
INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. 
          HURRAH! THANK YOU FOR THE INVOCATION. AND THANK YOU FOR THE PLEDGE. 
          MADAM, MADAM JONES, MAYOR MEDINA PRESENT. DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE,
PRESENT. 
          COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. PRESENT. COUNCILMAN HAMMER,
PRESENT. 
          COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN, PRESENT, MR.. MORTON. MR. MORTON, PRESENT AND MISS SMITH, PRESENT. PRESENT. 
          OKAY, WE'RE NOW ON AGENDA REVISIONS, MR. MORTON. 
          [AGENDA REVISIONS:]
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CITY COUNCIL TWO THE RESOLUTION AND ORDINANCE FOR THE LOTUS
PRELIMINARY AND FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLANS HAVE BEEN REVISED AND INCLUDED IN THE AGENDA PACKET UNDER NUMBER ONE ITEM PROCUREMENTS FOR THE NORTH REGIONAL WASTEWATER TREATMENT
PLANT LAUNDER COVERS IS BEING WITHDRAWN. 
          THAT'S ALL I HAVE. ITEM ONE. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU, MADAM SMITH. ANY REVISIONS? NO,
SIR. 
          COUNCIL MEMBERS, ANY REVISIONS? MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE. 
          UNFINISHED AND OLD BUSINESS BEFORE PUBLIC HEARINGS. AND ALSO MOVE NEW BUSINESS. 
          NUMBER FIVE. FOLLOWED BEHIND THAT BEFORE PUBLIC HEARINGS. 
          SO NEW BUSINESS NUMBER FIVE. AND WHAT ELSE? BOTH BOTH ITEMS UNDER UNFINISHED BUSINESS. 
          THERE'S APPLICANTS HERE IN CASE COUNCIL HAS QUESTIONS. 
          ITEMS ONE AND TWO AND UNFINISHED IN OLD BUSINESS. 
          AND YOU WANT THEM WHERE? BEFORE PUBLIC HEARINGS. 
          OKAY, COPY. I'LL SECOND. I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE,
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. 
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ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. 
          AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'RE NOW ON COUNCILMAN JOHNSON PROCLAMATIONS. 
          [PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS:]
I DON'T SEE MR. HUBBARD, BUT IS THERE ANOTHER REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE TUSKEGEE AIRMEN HERE? WE CAN DEFINITELY HAVE A VETERAN RECEIVE THAT. 
          YEAH. PERHAPS YOU KNOW WHAT I CAN CALL. WE CAN CALL UP ALL THE VETERANS. 
          YOU CAN. DEFINITELY. YOU GOT. I KNOW YOU HAVE TWO TWO SAILORS THERE. 
          NO, YOU DON'T WANT TO. DO WE HAVE ANY AIR FORCE VETERANS IN THE ANY? AIR FORCE VETERANS HERE? ALL RIGHT. WELL, YEAH. 
          LARRY IS A AIR FORCE VETERAN. COME ON UP, LARRY. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. WELL, YOU CAN IF YOU WANT. AND THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS. 
          COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON. THIS IS HUGE. ALL RIGHT. 
          NOTICE AND PROCLAMATION OF TUSKEGEE AIRMEN COMMEMORATION DAY,
MARCH 28TH, 2026. 
          IT IS HEREBY PROCLAIMED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY,
BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, THAT WHEREAS IN 1942, THE TUSKEGEE AIRMEN WERE THE FIRST GRADUATING CLASS OF THE AFRICAN AMERICAN AVIATORS IN
THE UNITED STATES MILITARY TO ENTER INTO WORLD WAR TWO COMBAT. 
          THE GROUP INCLUDED NAVIGATORS, BOMBARDIER'S INSTRUCTORS AND MAINTENANCE AND SUPPORT STAFF. 
          AND WHEREAS THE TUSKEGEE AIRMEN OVERCAME SEGREGATION AND PREJUDICE TO BECOME ONE OF THE
MOST HIGHLY RESPECTED FIGHTER GROUPS OF WORLD WAR TWO. 
          THEY PROVED CONCLUSIVELY THAT AFRICAN AMERICANS COULD FLY AND MAINTAIN SOPHISTICATED
COMBAT AIRCRAFT. 
          THE TUSKEGEE AIRMEN ACHIEVEMENT, TOGETHER WITH THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO SUPPORTED THEM,
PAVED THE WAY FOR THE FULL INTEGRATION OF THE UNITED STATES MILITARY. 
          AND WHEREAS THE FOLLOWING TUSKEGEE AIRMEN HAVE DIRECT CONNECTIONS TO THE STATE OF FLORIDA, GENERAL DANIEL CHAPPIE JAMES JR, BORN IN PENSACOLA,
FLORIDA, BECAME THE FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN TO ACHIEVE THE RANK OF FOUR STAR GENERAL IN THE ARMED FORCES. LIEUTENANT COLONEL HIRAM MANN,
WHO RESIDED IN BREVARD COUNTY, WAS A FAMED RED TAIL P-51 PILOT OF THE THREE 32ND FIGHTER GROUP. LIEUTENANT COLONEL ROBERT C HUGHES, WHO RESIDED IN BREVARD COUNTY,
WAS ONE OF THE FLIGHT INSTRUCTOR PILOTS, AND SECOND LIEUTENANT JOSEPH B BENNETT, WHO RESIDED IN BREVARD COUNTY,
WAS A FAMED RED TAIL P-51 PILOT OF THE 332ND FIGHTER GROUP. 
          AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF PALM BAY IS PROUD TO EXPRESS ITS APPRECIATION TO THE TUSKEGEE
AIRMEN, WHOSE SERVICE AND SACRIFICE HELPED TO PRESERVE THE FREEDOM WE ENJOY TODAY,
AS WELL AS MEMBERS OF THE GENERAL DANIEL CHAPPIE, JAMES JUNIOR CHAPTER OF THE TUSKEGEE AIRMEN,
WHO CONTINUED TO SERVE AS ROLE MODELS IN THE COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT AND THE INSPIRATION OF YOUTH. NOW, THEREFORE, I, KENNY JOHNSON, ON BEHALF OF MAYOR ROB MEDINA OF THE CITY OF PALM
BAY BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY OF SAID OFFICE, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM MARCH 28TH, 2026 AS TUSKEGEE AIRMEN COMMEMORATION DAY IN THE CITY OF
PALM BAY, FLORIDA AND ENCOURAGE ALL RESIDENTS TO THANK THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENTED TUSKEGEE AIRMEN FOR
THEIR SACRIFICES AND COURAGE BY ALLOWING US THE FREEDOM WE ENJOY TODAY AND THE MEMBERS OF THE GENERAL DANIEL CHAPPIE, JAMES JUNIOR CHAPTER FOR KEEPING THE LEGACY ALIVE AND IN
WITNESS WHEREOF I HAVE HEREUNTO SET MY HAND AND CAUSED THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO BE AFFIXED THIS 19TH DAY OF MARCH,
2026. 
          AS I WALK AWAY, I. CAN'T SEE HIM. DON'T MOVE. 
          ARE YOU READY? ONE. TWO. THREE. OKAY. THANK YOU. 
          AND BY THE WAY, GO AHEAD. NO, I WAS JUST GOING TO FLY HIGH. 
          GO! AIR FORCE. 
          OKAY, DEPUTY MAYOR, WE'RE NOW ON PUBLIC COMMENTS. 
          THANK YOU. BILL BENTON. MAYOR REAL QUICK. WE DIDN'T DO ANNOUNCEMENTS. 
          [ANNOUNCEMENTS:]
AS YOU WERE. WE HAVE TWO TERMS EXPIRING ON THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD. 
          THESE REPRESENT AT LARGE POSITIONS. ANYONE WISHING TO SERVE ON THESE BOARDS CAN APPLY
ONLINE AT PALM BAY FLORIDA.GOV, OR CONTACT THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AT 9523414. 
          THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR BILL SHATNER'S FIRST SPEAKER. 
          [PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES:]
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BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST. 
          I'VE GOT TWO ITEMS TO ADDRESS. THE FIRST ONE IS PRIDE IN MY. 
          IN THE MIDDLE, I'M GOING TO SAY MY MILITARY IN THE MILITARY,
WHAT THEY'RE ACCOMPLISHING RIGHT NOW, NOT JUST IN THE ARENA WITH WHICH THEY'RE WORKING,
THAT YOU'RE HEARING ABOUT IN THE NEWS, BUT ALL OVER THE ENTIRE WORLD RIGHT NOW, THE MILITARY IS PULLING THEIR WEIGHT DAY IN,
DAY OUT, EVERY BRANCH OF THE SERVICE. 
          I JUST A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY. IN THE 80S, I WAS OPERATING IN A TIN CAN IN THE PERSIAN
GULF ESCORTING OIL TANKERS, SO I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE DOING. ITEM NUMBER TWO. 
          THE CITY OF PALM BAY WANTS TO START COLLECTING DUES FOR YOUR GARBAGE PICKUP,
AND THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT ON A MONTHLY BASIS. 
          AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, I ASKED IF THEY HAPPEN TO KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE NOT ON
THE MONTHLY BILLING CIRCUIT. 
          I GOT SOME MORE INFORMATION TODAY, BUT ME BEING THE TYPE OF PERSON THAT I AM ABOUT THE
BUDGETS, I THOUGHT I'D BRING OUT SOME OF THE NUMBERS THAT THIS THAT THIS SMALL MAKE IT EASIER ON
BOOKKEEPING. 
          WHAT IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO COST THE CITY. THERE'S 40,000 RESIDENTS. 
          I MEAN, HOUSEHOLDS THAT HAVE MONTHLY BILLING,
THERE'S 12,000 RESIDENTS ON A QUARTERLY BASIS. 
          JUST FOR CURIOSITY, THAT'S A $9,000 EVERY QUARTER THAT COMES INTO THIS. 
          FOR MAILING TO THOSE ADDRESSES. BY DOING THAT MONTHLY,
YOU'RE GOING TO INCREASE IT DRASTICALLY TO THE TOTAL OF OVER A COURSE OF ONE YEAR BETWEEN THE MONTHLIES AND QUARTERLIES CONVERTING TO MONTHLY. 
          YOU'RE GOING TO BE SPENDING $560,000 A YEAR IN POSTAGE FROM THE CITY. 
          NOW GO ON THE OTHER SIDE OF IT. THAT'S WHAT THE RESIDENTS HAVE TO PAY IN MAILING THEIR
BILLS BACK TO THE CITY. 
          JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. I'LL JUST SPEAK FROM BILL BARTON'S SIDE POINT. 
          JUST FROM ME. MY MAIL WENT UP FROM $2.40 A YEAR TO $9.60 A YEAR. 
          DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A BIG DIFFERENCE, BUT WHEN YOU START THINKING ABOUT IT,
THAT'S TWO GALLONS OF GAS 60 MILES THAT A PERSON COULD HAVE DRIVEN TO AND FROM WORK. BUT INSTEAD, YOU'RE GOING TO ASK THE RESIDENTS OF PALM BAY TO PAY THAT SO THAT THE
BOOKKEEPING WILL BE EASIER. 
          THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, EFREM MOLINA. EFREN. 
          MY APOLOGIES. MY FIRST TIME. WELL, TAKE YOUR TIME,
SIR. 
          HOW WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO START? I SEEM COUNCIL MEMBERS OF PALM BAY CITIZENS OF PALM BAY. 
          MY NAME IS CLOSER TO THE MIC. RADIO CHECK. 
          ESTEEMED COUNCIL MEMBERS OF PALM BAY. CITIZENS OF PALM BAY. 
          MY NAME IS EFREN MOLINA. I LIVE AT 8 TO 8 FOLD AVENUE RIGHT HERE IN PALM BAY. 
          I AM A CITIZEN AND VETERAN OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
AND I'M HERE WITH A GRIEVANCE COMPLAINT AGAINST THE CITY AND THE PALM BAY POLICE DEPARTMENT ON AUGUST 5TH, 2025. MY MOTHER AND I WERE WRONGFULLY ARRESTED BY THE POLICE
HERE IN PALM BAY. 
          WE HAD CALLED FOR ASSISTANCE AND FOR HELP. WE HAD A PROBLEMATIC PROBLEM WITH SOLICITORS
VIOLATING AND TRESPASSING OUR PROPERTIES. 
          IT CAN BE FOUND IN BOTH THE POLICE FILES THAT WE HAVE MANY COMPLAINTS ABOUT THIS ISSUE. 
          SADLY, ON THAT DAY WHEN WE CALLED FOR ASSISTANCE,
LAW ENFORCEMENT INSTEAD BY THE NAME OF MONICA SHOOK DECIDED TO ARREST MYSELF AND MY MOTHER. WE WERE FALSELY PERSECUTED FOR HAVING STOLEN $5,000 WORTH OF PROPERTY OF AN INDIVIDUAL WHO HAD TRESPASSED AND VIOLATED OUR PREMISE. 
          AS I STOOD 36 HOURS IN JAIL, NEVER HAVE I BEEN MISTREATED,
NOT EVEN BY MY ALLIES OR MY ENEMIES ACROSS SEAS IN THE PERSIAN GULF. 
          I ALWAYS STOOD FOR COMMITMENT TO EXCELLENCE IN THE FAIR TREATMENT OF ALL. 
          MY MOTHER AND I WERE NOT FAIRLY TREATED. IT HAS CAUSED US EMOTIONAL,
FINANCIAL AND MENTAL ISSUES BECAUSE OF THIS INCIDENT AND THIS 
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OFFICER'S DECISION OF FALSE PROBABLE CAUSE TO ARREST US. 
          IT TEARS ME APART BECAUSE I HAVE ATTEMPTED TO DO THIS PEACEFULLY. 
          I FILED COMPLAINTS WITH MR. MOORE AND CHIEF ARGUELLO. 
          I. TRIED MY HARDEST TO FORGET ABOUT IT, BUT IT'S SOMETHING. 
          I WAKE UP EVERY DAY ASKING MYSELF, WHAT COULD I HAVE DONE DIFFERENT. 
          WHAT DID I DO WRONG TO DESERVE SUCH A TREATMENT? AFTER MY SEVEN YEARS OF SERVICE TO MY COUNTRY. 
          SO I STAND HERE AND I WANT TO ASK FIVE QUESTIONS TO THE COUNCIL AND MAKE FIVE STATEMENTS. 
          ONE. IN WHOSE INTEREST DO YOU EXERCISE YOUR POWER AND AUTHORITY? TWO TO WHOM ARE YOU AND YOUR OFFICERS ACCOUNTABLE TO? THREE IF AN OFFICER COMMITS AN ACT THAT IS FALSE AND CORRUPTS THE MORAL AND OUTRAGEOUS,
THE PUBLIC AND A CITIZEN, WHAT CAN WE DO ABOUT IT? FOUR IF AN OFFICER COMMITS UNLAWFUL DETENTION,
DOES THEIR IMMUNITY PROTECT THEM FROM BEING CORRECTED? FIVE HOW CAN WE GET RID OF THOSE OFFICERS IN MY STATEMENTS? I DEMAND THE IMMEDIATE ARREST AND SUSPENSION OF OFFICER OF THE PALM BAY POLICE DEPARTMENT
GIVEN THE DAMAGES. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MORTON. IT APPEARS THAT YOU'VE BEEN IN DISCUSSIONS WITH MR. MOLINA. WE HAVE, MR. MOLINA. THANK YOU. 
          YOU MAY BE SEATED. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. MR. MOLINA FILED,
AND THERE WAS AN INCIDENT AT HIS HOME. 
          WE DID SEND AN OFFICER OUT THERE. HIM AND HIS MOTHER WERE ARRESTED. 
          THERE WAS PROBABLE CAUSE FOR THAT ARREST. MR. MOLINA FILED AN IA COMPLAINT WHICH WAS INVESTIGATED BY SHAUN AND FOUND NO VIOLATIONS OF
POLICY. 
          WHEN I FIRST STARTED, MR. MOLINA CONTACTED ME. WE HAD PHONE CALL. 
          WE'VE HAD, I BELIEVE, TWO IN-PERSON MEETINGS. HAVE YOU BEEN TO THE OFFICE TWICE? I'VE
LISTENED. I'VE WATCHED EVERY BIT OF VIDEO HE BOTH PROVIDED, AND THE BODY CAM FOOTAGE VIDEO THAT WE HAVE AT THE END OF THE AT THE END OF IT,
I DO BELIEVE THIS DOOR TO DOOR SOLICITOR ABSOLUTELY PUSHED THIS MAN'S BUTTONS AND PROBABLY HARASSED HIM. THERE WAS NO CAUSE AT THAT TIME HE HAD NEVER BEEN FORMALLY
TRESPASSED FROM THE PROPERTY. I WANT TO CLARIFY THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY, A DECISION WAS MADE, I THINK, BY MR. MOLINA,
AND I SAID THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHEN I OFFERED YOU A PERSONAL APOLOGY FOR THE WAY YOU'RE FEELING, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THE WAY YOUR MOTHER IS FEELING. 
          AND I KNOW I MADE THOSE APOLOGIES TO YOU AND SAID IT JUST IT IS NOT A GREAT SITUATION. 
          THE OUTCOME OF OF THE PAIN AND ANXIETY YOU FEEL FROM THIS. 
          AND YOU EXPRESSED YOUR YOUR CONCERNS OVER THAT AND THE OUTCOME OF WHAT HAPPENED TO YOUR
MOTHER IN TERMS OF HER EMPLOYMENT BECAUSE OF AN ARREST. 
          SO I SAID, FOR THAT SITUATION, I APOLOGIZE. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY,
A BAD DECISION WAS MADE. 
          AND THERE IS A THERE IS A CONSEQUENCE OF THAT DECISION. NOW,
THERE IS A SEPARATE ISSUE AT PLAY WITH WHAT HAPPENED AT THE BREVARD COUNTY JAIL, INCLUDING ORIGINALLY BOOKING HIM UNDER THE INCORRECT NAME AND SOME OTHER THINGS THAT HE'S
VERY FAMILIAR WITH. 
          AND WE SPOKE AT LENGTH ABOUT THOSE. I THINK OUR MEETING WAS WAS WELL OVER AN HOUR. IN THE
FIRST MEETING. I BROUGHT EVERYBODY IN SO WE COULD HAVE AN HONEST, FAIR CONVERSATION AND LISTEN AND RESPOND TO EVERYTHING THAT WAS THAT WAS RECONCILED. 
          AND IN MY LAST CONVERSATION TO MR. MOLINA, WHEN I OFFERED MY JUST GENERAL APOLOGY FOR,
FOR OBVIOUSLY. 
          AND THANKED HIM FOR FOR WHAT HE HAS DONE FOR SERVICE. 
          I SAID, I'M NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO DELIVER. I THINK THE ANSWER THAT YOU ARE AFTER OR THE
OUTCOME THAT YOU ARE AFTER, AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, IN MY OPINION, A BAD DECISION WAS MADE BY BY THEM THAT LED TO
THIS ULTIMATELY, WHICH I THINK CHIEF SPEAR, DEPUTY CHIEF SPEARS CAN,
CAN, CAN SPEAK MORE TO IF WE WANT TO. 
          THE WHILE THERE WAS PROBABLE CAUSE, THE ATTORNEY STATE'S ATTORNEY DECIDED NOT TO FOLLOW
THROUGH IN THE CASE, WHICH WAS PROBABLY GREAT. AND HERE WE ARE TODAY. 
          I CAN'T DELIVER THE ANSWER. WE'VE LOOKED AT OUR POLICY AGAIN. 
          I'VE LOOKED AT THE INCIDENT. AND I CAN'T AT THIS POINT AGREE WITH SOME OF THE THINGS SAID
TONIGHT AND HAVE HAD MANY MEETINGS, MANY PHONE CALLS AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE ELSE TO GO WITH THIS AT THIS POINT. 
          WELL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR DILIGENCE IN THIS MATTER. 
          THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, DOUG HOOK. 
          GOOD EVENING, DOUG HUG, 1091 MARIPOSA. I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE SOME CONTEXT TO THE
DISCUSSION THAT'S GOING TO BE HAD TONIGHT REGARDING LOTUS. 
          TO THE WEST IS MIKKO SCRUB SANCTUARY AND EEL SANCTUARY,
ESTABLISHED IN 1993 WITH 1322 ACRES TO OUR. 
          TO THE EAST IS GRANT FLATWOOD SANCTUARY AND ILL. 
          ESTABLISHED IN 2001 WITH 2269 COMBINED ACRES. 
          IN THE MIDDLE ARE THREE COMBINED PROPERTIES PRIVATELY OWNED,
A COMPARATIVELY MEASLY 375 ACRES THAT THREATENED TO DEGRADE BUT COULD ALSO BUT COULD 
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INSTEAD HELP THESE SPACES THRIVE. I WAS GOING TO LIKEN THIS TO CUTTING THE HEAD OFF A
CRITICAL WILDLIFE CORRIDOR, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY MORE ACCURATE TO LIKEN IT TO CUTTING,
REMOVING THE NECK AND EXPECTING THE HEAD AND THE BODY TO SURVIVE ON THEIR OWN. 
          DEVELOPING THESE 353 ACRES WOULD BE DEVASTATING. 
          AND FOR WHAT EXACTLY? THERE'S NOT EVEN A ROAD TO DO IT RIGHT NOW. 
          AND BUILDING A FOUR LANE ROAD THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF IT WOULD MAKE THE PROSPECTS EVEN WORSE
FOR WILDLIFE AND HAVE THE CITY LOSE OUT FINANCIALLY LONG TERM. 
          I UNDERSTAND THE ALLURE OF A DOWNTOWN PALM BAY,
SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP BEFORE, BUT IT SIMPLY WILL NOT HAPPEN IN THE VERY SOUTHERN TIP OF THE CITY LIMITS, FORCED BETWEEN TWO PROPERTIES THAT HAVE BEEN OWNED BY
DECADES BY BREVARD COUNTY RESIDENTS FOR CONSERVATION SPACES. 
          THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION IS OWNED BY PEET HOLDINGS LLC,
WHICH APPEARS TO BE TIED TO ATLAS PEAT AND SOIL AND HAS NOT CHANGED OWNERSHIP SINCE 2013, AS THAT BUSINESS'S NAME SHOULD IMPLY, THEY LIKELY KNOW THE DEVASTATING IMPACTS THAT THIS
WOULD HAVE ON THE ENVIRONMENT. 
          THE SADDEST PART IS THAT THIS IS A KNOWN COMMON PLAY IN REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT,
CREATED NEARBY DEVELOPMENT THAT INEVITABLY DEGRADES ADJACENT CONSERVATION SPACES. 
          THEN, A DECADE OR SO DOWN THE ROAD ARGUED THAT THE CONSERVATION SPACE IS NO LONGER SERVING
ITS PURPOSE AND SHOULD BE SOLD FOR MORE DEVELOPMENT. 
          I RECALL A SIMILAR HEATED DISCUSSION INVOLVING ANOTHER EAL PROPERTY,
MALABAR SCRUB SANCTUARY, WHERE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENTS HAS IMPEDED PROPER MANAGEMENT OF THE SCRUB ENVIRONMENT. WE
ARE AT A CRITICAL JUNCTION TONIGHT, RIGHT THIS VERY MOMENT, AND I URGE THE COUNCIL TO UNDERSTAND THAT NOT ONLY IS THIS SPACE
ESSENTIAL TO THE SURVIVAL OF THE WILDLIFE CORRIDOR THAT HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR DECADES, THE CITY AND COUNTY ALSO CANNOT AFFORD TO SERVICE IT VIA THE NECESSARY ROAD MAINTENANCE. 
          SCHOOLS FOR CHILDREN WHO MOVE IN FIRE AND POLICE AND BLUNTLY,
IT DOES NOT ACCOMPLISH THE SINGULAR GOAL. 
          IT PROMISES ESTABLISHING A POSITIVE IDENTITY FOR PALM BAY. 
          AS SHOWN TONIGHT, THERE WILL BE MANY. MANY WILL VIEW THIS DEVELOPMENT ARE. 
          VERY. FEW WILL VIEW THIS DEVELOPMENT AS A POSITIVE FOR THE CITY. 
          THERE IS NOT A SINGLE WIN TO BE FOUND. MAYOR DEPUTY MAYOR COUNCILMAN. 
          I PERSONALLY URGE YOU TO NOT BE DRAWN IN BY THE SIREN SONG OF POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT
PROMISES TO COME. 
          DO NOT SEVER THIS LIFELINE BETWEEN TWO BELOVED NATURAL SPACES,
IF NOT FOR THE NATURE THAT WE ALL LOVE. 
          THE BIRD WATCHING THE AMAZING TORTOISES, THE NATIVE PLANTS AND FOR RUCKSACK DOWN CONNECTED
TRAILS, THEN DO IT FOR THE CITY. TO SAVE THE CITY. COUNTLESS HEADACHES. 
          THIS IS NOT A FULLY FORMED PLAN. LET'S BUY OURSELVES SOME TIME TO FIND A BETTER PATH
FORWARD. 
          AND FOR THE PROPERTY OWNERS, I PERSONALLY URGE YOU TO CONSIDER A DIFFERENT PATH. 
          ENGAGE WITH THE CITIZENS TO TO LET THEM A PATH TO ACQUIRE THIS LAND. 
          THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER PAUL MATULIS. PAUL. 
          GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. TODAY IS THE FIRST TIME THAT I'M HERE AND A LONG TIME I WOULD LIKE
TO COMMENT. 
          I ALWAYS TRY TO BE LAZY, BUT TODAY AND I SAID,
NO, I HAVE TO COME IN AND LET'S SAY HI TO MY MY BEST FRIEND MAYOR MEDINA. I DON'T HAVE NO COMPLAINT FOR YOU, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL OF YOU
GUYS FOR THE GREAT THINGS. GOOD JOB. AS YOU GUYS ARE DOING FOR THAT CITY. 
          I'VE BEEN HERE OVER THE 18 YEARS, BUT ONLY ONE THING THAT I HAVE, AND I'M GOING TO PUT LITTLE COMPLAINT ABOUT IT AND ASK YOU,
WHAT CAN YOU DO? AS YOU KNOW, FOR THE FEW MONTHS PAST, WE HAVE SOME MOTHER NATURE HAPPEN TO OUR CITY AND
DESTROY OUR GREENLAND. MYSELF, I'M LIVING ON 1268 AVENUE SOUTHEAST PALM BAY. 
          I HAVE 18 BEAUTIFUL PLANT TREES, FRUIT TREES,
MANGO, PAPAYA, AVOCADO, BANANA, EVERYTHING, YOU NAME IT. BEAUTIFUL. 
          IF I HAVE TO SELL MY HOUSE, I THINK YOU WOULD WORTH MONEY. 
          RIGHT NOW IT LOOK LIKE A DESERT, A DESERT UGLY. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. 
          EVERYBODY PASS. AND I FEEL LIKE IF I WAS ON MY BACKYARD AND I SEE SOMEBODY PASS NOW. 
          I PUT MY HEAD DOWN. IT'S A SHAME. NOW, GUYS,
I KNOW YOU. 
          YOU'VE BEEN WORKING SO HARD AND I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK HARD. 
          I HAVE A QUESTION FOR ALL OF YOU. WHAT DO YOU THINK ON YOUR AGENDA? DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ON YOUR AGENDA TO GET OUR CITY BACK AGAIN,
ESPECIALLY ALL TO HELP OTHER 
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FELLOW CITIZENS BECAUSE I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE. 
          MAYBE ALL EVERYBODY ON THE SAME SAME TREE. WE'RE ON THE SAME BOAT. 
          SO DO WE HAVE ANYTHING ON MIND OR ON YOUR BUDGET PLAN? HOW CAN YOU HELP US? I'M NOT COMING HERE TO ASK FOR MONEY. 
          BUT I NEED TODAY. I NEED SOME HELP. NO MATTER HOW YOU CAME TO HELP ME. 
          BECAUSE. ESPECIALLY TO CUT THE TREES, I CAN'T. 
          I'M A CITY WORKER. I'M WORKING FOR CITY OF COCOA,
BUT I CAN'T CLAIM ANY TREES. 
          AND CUT. THERE'S SO MANY. I DON'T PUT NO PRESSURE TO YOU,
I DON'T. 
          I'M NOT SAYING YOU GUYS WAS DONE IT, BUT THEY'VE BEEN DONE UP THERE. 
          BUT I NEED YOUR HELP AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE GET BACK TO THAT TO HELP ALL OUR FELLOW
CITIZENS, TO MAKE SURE WE LOOK GREEN AGAIN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH,
GUYS. 
          THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, JOANNA LEVESQUE. 
          HELLO. MY NAME IS JEAN LEVESQUE. I LIVE IN 912 EAST OAK COURT. 
          WE'RE HAVING A PROBLEM WITH THE EVITE AND THE. 
          OVER PAST FEW DAYS, WE HAD TEENAGERS AND E-BIKE RIDING IN PRIVATE PROPERTY IN THE BACKYARD
AND FRONT YARD, RUINING THE LANDSCAPING. THEY HAVE AN ATTITUDE AND THEY TEND TO FLIP YOU THE FINGER IF YOU
TELL THEM. 
          IS THIS PRIVATE PROPERTY? WE HAVE BOTH TODDLER AND RETIREE IN THE SUMMERFIELD. 
          THE TEEN POSED A DANGER WITH THEIR RECKLESS DRIVING AND DISREGARD. 
          AT LEAST TWO RESIDENTS CALL THE POLICE AND I WAS ONE OF THEM. 
          THE POLICE DID MAKE A PRESENT. HOWEVER, THEY CANNOT BE EVERYWHERE. 
          I KNOW THE FIRST TIME I CAUGHT HIM, HE WAS VERY POLITE AND SORRY,
SIR. 
          WE WON'T COME BACK. BUT HE WENT RIGHT BACK AND ASKED FOR A KID. 
          ON THE FOLLOWING DAY. AND HE ALMOST RAN OVER ME TWICE. 
          SO IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF. 
          AND UNFORTUNATELY WE HAD SOME COW GATE INSTALLED THAT HELPED A LOT,
BUT THEY FOUND A WAY TO COME IN. 
          THANK YOU, JUDY CRANDALL. 
          GOOD EVENING, JUDY CRANDALL. 751 PEBBLE BEACH AVENUE,
NORTHEAST. 
          I'M HERE TONIGHT TO THANK TWO PEOPLE. ONE IS MR. GABRIEL BEAUDOIN FROM THE UTILITIES. THE OPEN HOUSE WAS PHENOMENAL. 
          IT GAVE THE RESIDENTS AN IDEA OF JUST WHAT HAPPENS IN THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT,
AND I HAD A CONCERN AND SPOKE WITH HIM ABOUT IT. HE WAS VERY PROMPT AND ANSWERING MY QUESTIONS AND SO KUDOS. 
          HE DID AN EXCELLENT JOB AND HIS STAFF ARE TOP NOTCH. 
          THE SECOND PERSON I WANT TO THANK, WHICH I'M NOT SURE WHO IT WAS,
BUT I BELIEVE IT WAS FACILITIES WHICH I READ IN THE PALM BAY THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE OAK TREES IN THE DOG PARK PUT IN. 
          IF THAT IS THE CASE, I THANK YOU. THERE'S NO TREES IN THE DOG PARK ON RIVIERA,
AND I KNOW I'VE MENTIONED THIS BEFORE. I'D LIKE TO HAVE A MEMBERSHIP TO THAT DOG PARK OR SOME
TYPE OF SCHEDULING SO I COULD BRING THE DOGS THERE. BUT THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE IF,
IF THOSE OAK TREES GO IN, LIKE I READ, THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE TO HAVE THE SUSTAINABILITY DEPARTMENT GET SOME DOG
FRIENDLY SHRUBS BECAUSE DOGS LIKE TO INVESTIGATE AND SHRUBS ARE GOING TO BE ALL OVER THE PLACE,
AND THEY LIKE TO GO SEE WHAT THEY CAN FIND IN THE SHRUBS. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE THE NEXT STEP. BUT I WANT TO THANK THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT FOR AN
OUTSTANDING JOB AND WHOEVER IT WAS THAT SAID OKAY, TO THE DOG PARK TREES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 
          NEXT SPEAKER ROBERT STICE. 
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GOOD EVENING. ROBERT STICE, 1796 LYNBROOK DRIVE,
SOUTHEAST. 
          I WANT TO TALK TO YOU TODAY ABOUT EDEN AT BAYSIDE. 
          WE HAVE ANOTHER APPLICATION THERE. THE PREVIOUS ONE WE WON UNANIMOUSLY WAS REJECTED BY
ZONING IN BOTH CITY COUNCIL. 
          IN MY OPINION, THIS IS NOT A GOLF ISSUE, BUT A QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE FOR ME. 
          WE HAVE 12 H H O S IN THE AREA. WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY 2500 PEOPLE. 
          AND IF YOU ADD 480 HOMES TIMES 2.8 PEOPLE, I THINK IT'S ANOTHER 1344. 
          NOW THEY'RE GOING TO COME UP TO YOU AND TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC. 
          LET ME TALK ABOUT THAT REAL QUICK. THIS WAS DONE FOUR YEARS AGO BY THE FORMER CITY
MANAGER. 
          THE L SHAPED CURVE THAT WE HAVE RIGHT OUTSIDE SUMMERFIELD GOING NORTH. 
          IT'S ONE OF THE MOST DANGEROUS IN THE CITY ITSELF. 
          AND ANOTHER 1300 FOUR, 80 TIMES TWO CARS TIMES 2.8 PEOPLE. 
          MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY THEY BEING THE DEVELOPERS,
ALSO HAVE TO PUT IN TWO ROADS FOR ABOUT 1000FT². 
          I BEG YOUR PARDON? ABOUT 1000FT IN LENGTH, NOT 1000FT². 
          TAKING TOO MANY NOTES HERE. WHAT HAPPENS IN THE MORNING? YOU SEE PEOPLE FROM ABOUT 6 TO 7, 730, PROBABLY GOING 50 MILES AN HOUR OR FASTER AS THEY
SPEED TO GET TO I 95 JUST AS FAST AS THEY CAN TO AVOID BOTTLENECKS ALL THE WAY THROUGH THAT AREA,
WHETHER IT'S JUPITER OR GOING DOWN TO BABCOCK OR WHATEVER TO GET ON THERE. 
          YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THIS IS NOT THIS IS NOT PORT MALABAR. 
          WE'RE ORGANIZED, WE'RE TOGETHER. WE'RE NOT GOING AWAY. 
          AND AS MANY TIMES AS YOU BRING THIS UP, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE RED SHIRTS IN HERE BASICALLY
FIGHTING. 
          THIS IS A QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE. IT'S NOT A GOLF COURSE ISSUE. 
          PUBLIX IS PACKED ALL THE TIME. LIKE I SAID, A FELLOW RESIDENT SAID IT'S LIKE THANKSGIVING. 
          BAYSIDE IS IS EXPANDING BECAUSE THEY CAN'T PUT ALL THE ALL THE STUDENTS IN THERE. 
          SO WHAT YOU HAVE IS YOU ALREADY HAVE PEOPLE ON TOP OF ONE ANOTHER. 
          THE LAST DEVELOPMENT WAS STONEBRIAR 333 HOMES WERE AT THE BREAKING POINT NOW. 
          SO IF YOU ALLOW THESE HOMES THAT, IN MY UNDERSTANDING,
ARE GOING TO GO ON QUARTER ACRE LOTS AND WHAT HAVE YOU IN THERE, YOU ESSENTIALLY HAVE DESTROYED BAYSIDE. NOW,
BAYSIDE HAS ALWAYS BEEN THAT I'VE HEARD UP HERE, THE CROWN JEWEL. OKAY, IT'S NOT NECESSARY. IT'S ABOUT A QUALITY OF LIFE. 
          AND I'M ASKING YOU TO LOOK AT STAFF TO LOOK AT. 
          I BEG YOUR PARDON? CITY STAFF TO LOOK AT MAKING US HAVE A BETTER LIFE BECAUSE THE
INFRASTRUCTURE IS NOT GOING TO GET BIGGER. 
          I DON'T THINK IN OUR LIFETIMES YOU HAVE TOO MUCH ON YOUR PLATE. 
          SO PLEASE CONSIDER THE DAMAGE THAT THIS WILL DO,
THAT THIS WILL DO. 
          AND KEEP THAT IN MIND. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU. KEN. KEN DELGADO. KEN DELGADO, 154 ANGELO ROAD IN THE FAMOUS CITY OF PALM BAY. 
          ALSO A PURPLE HEART CITY. TWO THINGS. NUMBER ONE THANK GOD FOR BILL BATTEN. 
          WHAT AN AMAZING MAN. HE HE. YES, GOD BLESS HIM. 
          HE JUST NOTED HOW WE COULD SAVE HALF $1 MILLION BY KEEPING IT ON A QUARTERLY BASIS. 
          NOT TO MENTION THAT'S JUST ON POSTAGE, NOT TO MENTION THE PAPER AND THE ENVELOPE THAT ALSO
HAS TO INCLUDE. 
          AND IN A TIME WHEN WE'RE LOOKING FOR SO MUCH MONEY. 
          BOY, HALF $1 MILLION. LISTEN, IF YOU DON'T NEED IT,
PLEASE WRITE THE CHECK TO ME. 
          I CAN USE IT. OKAY. OTHERWISE, I WOULD TAKE THOSE $500,000 AND APPLY IT TO SOMETHING,
MAYBE A FIRE TRUCK OR SOME OTHER GREAT THING THAT THAT THE CITY NOW NEEDS. I WOULD HOPEFULLY YOU WOULD REALLY CONSIDER WHAT
HE SAID ABOUT THAT. 
          A NUMBER TWO IS HAPPENS TO BE A VERSE IN THE BIBLE. 
          GO FIGURE THAT I WOULD BRING THAT UP. BUT JESUS SAID THIS,
HE SAID, MY PEACE I LEAVE WITH YOU. 
          MY PEACE I GIVE TO YOU. NOT AS THE WORLD GIVES DO I GIVE TO YOU. 
          LET YOUR HEART NOT BE TROUBLED, NEITHER LET IT BE AFRAID. 
          FEAR IS VERY CONTROLLING. FEAR MANIPULATES. FEAR FREEZES MINDS. 
          FEAR FORCES YOU TO GO IN DIRECTIONS THAT YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO GO. 
          BUT JESUS SAID, I HAVE A PEACE THAT PASSES ALL UNDERSTANDING,
AND IT HAS TO DO WITH THE HEART OF PEOPLE. 
          WHEN PEOPLE ARE AFRAID, IT'S A HEART ISSUE. SO JESUS SAYS,
I HAVE A PEACE THAT NO MAN CAN REALLY UNDERSTAND UNLESS YOU TAKE IT, UNLESS YOU EXPERIENCE IT. AND SO I JUST ENCOURAGE YOU ALL AS,
AS WELL AS THE PEOPLE OF PALM BAY THAT THEY WOULD CONSIDER THE ONE 
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WHO CAN GIVE THEM PEACE THAT PUTS THEIR HEART AT REST. 
          I LOVE THE STORY ABOUT JESUS IN THE MIDST OF A STORM. 
          THE BOAT'S SINKING. AND WHAT IS JESUS DOING? HE IS SLEEPING AT THE BOW. 
          EVERYBODY ELSE IS RUNNING AND SCURRYING. FEAR HAS TAKEN HOLD OF THEM,
AND THEY WAKE HIM UP AND SAYS, DON'T YOU CARE THAT WE'RE GOING TO PERISH? OF COURSE HE CARES,
BUT HE'S AT PERFECT PEACE. 
          AND THERE'S A SAYING THAT A PASTOR SAID, IF YOU CAN SLEEP IN A STORM,
YOU HAVE POWER OVER THE STORM. 
          AND HE ROSE UP AND HE ADDRESSED THE STORM, AND HE BROUGHT PEACE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE
STORM. 
          SO I ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY, SEEK PEACE. PEACE TO ALL MEN,
GOODWILL TO ALL MEN. 
          AND THANK YOU FOR THIS MOMENT. NEXT SPEAKER SUSAN RAMIREZ. 
          SUSAN RAMIREZ, 3259 EASTMAN AVENUE, NORTHEAST PALM BAY. 
          A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, I WAS HERE IN THIS EXACT SPOT,
BEGGING FOR HELP FROM MY BROTHER. 
          BUT BECAUSE HE HAD THAT SCARLET LETTER, I HAD TO GO THROUGH MANY CHANNELS. 
          I WAS ASKED TO MEET WITH DEPUTY CHIEF SPEARS. 
          I GAVE HIM ALL THE DOCUMENTATION. GOT A RESPONSE BACK. 
          WELL, YOUR BROTHER CAN DRESS WITH MINIMAL ASSISTANCE. 
          AND THOSE OTHER THREE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE LOCKED UP IN A HOSPICE HOUSE DIRECTLY ACROSS
THE STREET FROM A PARK, THEY'RE CONFINED. I SAID, MY BROTHER CAN'T COOK. 
          MY BROTHER CAN'T TAKE CARE OF HIMSELF, MY BROTHER CAN'T BATHE HIMSELF. 
          THAT DIDN'T MATTER. THOSE OTHER THREE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE CONFINED. 
          I THOUGHT ABOUT IT AFTERWARDS. THEY'RE NOT CONFINED. 
          THEY CAN WALK OUT THE DOOR AT ANY GIVEN TIME. 
          BUT I WAS NOT ALLOWED THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE MY BROTHER MOVE INTO MY HOUSE THE DAY THAT I
SAW YOU AT THE SEAFOOD FESTIVAL. 
          YOU DON'T KNOW THIS, BUT WITHIN A HALF AN HOUR OF ME BEING THERE,
I HAD TO RUSH OUT OF THERE BECAUSE MY BROTHER WAS COUGHING UP BLOOD. 
          I WAS ABLE TO GET HOSPICE OVER THERE. WE GOT IT UNDER CONTROL. 
          WE THOUGHT EVERYTHING WAS GOOD. SATURDAY CAME. 
          THIS PAST SATURDAY CAME. I GOT ANOTHER FRANTIC PHONE CALL. 
          MY BROTHER FELL INTO RESPIRATORY DISTRESS. EMS ARRIVED. 
          HE WAS BARELY BREATHING. HE WAS NOT CONSCIOUS. 
          SO THEN AGAIN, I HAD TO RUSH OVER THERE, AS I SAID,
AND I HAD TO MAKE THE PHONE. THE CALL TO GET HIM TO THE HOSPITAL HAD THIS COUNCIL HELPED ME. HAD THIS CITY HELPED ME, HE WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN PUT IN THAT SITUATION. 
          HE WOULDN'T HAVE FALLEN INTO RESPIRATORY DISTRESS. 
          THE CITY OF PALM BAY HAD THE SOLE DISCRETION TO MAKE THE DECISION. 
          EVERYBODY WANTED TO POINT FINGERS BECAUSE, AS I'M SURE YOU ALL KNOW,
I FILED A LAWSUIT UNDER MY BROTHER'S NAME. 
          FDLE WANTED TO SAY IT WAS PALM BAY. BREVARD COUNTY SAID IT WAS PALM BAY. 
          PALM BAY WAS SAID, OH, IT'S FDLE. EVERYBODY WANTED TO POINT FINGERS,
BUT NOBODY WANTED TO STEP UP WHEN THE BOTTOM LINE WAS, IS THAT PALM BAY HAD THE SOLE DISCRETION TO MAKE THE CALL. 
          I JUST COME HERE TODAY TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW THAT MY BROTHER PASSED ON MONDAY. 
          PEOPLE DRAGGED THEIR FEET, AND HAD I BEEN THERE,
HAD HE BEEN AT MY HOUSE, THIS NEVER WOULD HAVE HAPPENED. 
          THERE'S NO WINNER IN THIS SITUATION. I WALK AWAY BECAUSE THE CITY THAT I ASKED FOR TO
HELP, I ASKED NOTHING FROM NOBODY. THE ONE TIME I ASKED FOR HELP. 
          I CAN'T GET IT. EVERYBODY WANTS TO TURN A BLIND EYE. 
          SO I WALK AWAY WITH A BROKEN HEART AND DISCOURAGEMENT FROM THE CITY THAT I LOVE. 
          AND THEN YOU GUYS ALL GET TO WALK AWAY KNOWING THAT YOU ALL UPSET ANOTHER CITIZEN WHEN YOU
COULD HAVE HELPED. 
          THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW. WELL,
FIRST OF ALL, MA'AM, I'M SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS. 
          JUST AS A BRIEF MADAM ATTORNEY, SHE MENTIONED THAT THERE WAS PENDING LITIGATION. 
          ARE YOU ABLE TO GIVE US INFORMATION REGARDING THAT? TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, THE LITIGATION THAT WAS FILED WAS TO CHALLENGE THE STATE LAW
THAT HAS STANDARDS AS FAR AS WHERE SEXUAL OFFENDERS CAN LIVE. THE. AND THAT WAS WHAT THE LAWSUIT WAS ABOUT. 
          ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER,
GARY MILLER. 
          GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. GENTLEMEN. I MOVED TO PALM BAY ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO. 
          AND I REMEMBER THE ROADWAY NEAR MY HOUSE. IT'S A DANGEROUS ROAD IN ONE PLACE. I CONTACTED SOMEBODY AT THE CITY AND TOLD THEM OF THE DANGER THERE. 
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AND THAT IT NEEDED SOME SIGNING OR SOME BETTER MEANS OF CREATING A SAFE ENVIRONMENT FOR
THE DRIVERS. 
          NOTHING WAS DONE. AND ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO, I WAS DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD. 
          KOGAN IS WHERE I'M SPEAKING OF. THERE'S THE COUNTY ASSESSOR'S OFFICES RIGHT THERE. 
          IF YOU MAKE A RIGHT HAND TURN, YOU'LL BE AT THE COUNTY ASSESSOR'S OFFICE. 
          BUT THE LAND JUTS OUT AT A 90 DEGREE ANGLE FROM THE STRAIGHT LINE OF THE ROAD,
AND THERE IS NO INDICATION OF THAT HAPPENING OTHER THAN EYESIGHT, I GUESS. 
          THOSE OF US THAT DRIVE THERE OFTEN, BUT NOT EVERYBODY DRIVES THERE OFTEN. 
          SOME PEOPLE ARE VISITORS OR WHATNOT, AND THEY'RE JUST NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE SITUATION. 
          THE ROADWAY NARROWS FROM TWO LANES INTO ONE,
AND IT'S PRETTY ABRUPT. 
          AS I WAS COMING TOWARDS TO THE NORTH, TWO CARS FROM THE SOUTH WERE APPROACHING THAT
ABUTMENT WHERE THE ROAD CHANGES AT A 90 DEGREE ANGLE FROM 2 TO 1 LANE. 
          AND APPARENTLY THE CAR NUMBER ONE, I'LL CALL IT DIDN'T NOTICE IT UNTIL HE WAS RIGHT ON TOP
OF IT. 
          AND RIGHT AWAY HE MADE A TURN TO THE LEFT INTO A CAR THAT WAS SLIGHTLY AHEAD OF HIM IN THE
LEFT HAND LANE. 
          THAT CAUSED AN ACCIDENT. IT CAUSED THAT LEFT HAND LANE CAR TO TURN SUDDENLY AND GO UP ONTO
THE GRASS AT THAT COUNTY ASSESSOR'S AREA. IF THAT CAR, THE CAR THAT CREATED THAT CRASH HAD BEEN AHEAD OF THE CAR BY THAT SAME DEGREE BECAUSE HE HAD HIT THE CAR FROM THE SIDE AND THE
BACK, MAKING THAT SECOND CAR GO TO THE RIGHT. IF, IF THAT CAR,
THAT FIRST CAR HAD BEEN A LITTLE BIT AHEAD THEN AND HE MADE THAT SAME ADJUSTMENT, THE CAR, THE SECOND CAR WOULD HAVE CAUSED THE OFFENDING
CAR TO GO TOWARDS THE LEFT INTO THE ONCOMING LANE, WHICH IS WHERE I WAS ABOUT A HALF A SECOND PRIOR TO THAT. 
          AND THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN A THREE CAR ACCIDENT OR MAYBE EVEN A PILE UP BEHIND ME. 
          SO I'M HERE TO STRENUOUSLY ASK THAT. CARRY ON. 
          FINISH YOUR SENTENCE, SIR. THAT SOMETHING BE DONE,
AND I CAN, I CAN YOU NEVER MENTIONED THE STREET NAME, BUT WHAT I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO DO AT THIS POINT. 
          YOU SEE THAT YOUNG MAN OVER THERE WITH GLASSES? HE'S GOT HIS HIS HAND UP. OKAY, I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO GO SHARE THE THE LOCATION AND SEE WHAT
WE CAN DO. 
          ALL RIGHT. SIR. THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN, AND THANKS FOR COMING AND LETTING US KNOW. 
          NEXT SPEAKER, KRISTEN LANSANAH. 
          GOOD EVENING. KRISTEN LANSANAH NORTHWEST PALM BAY. I'LL HAVE MORE TO SAY LATER,
BUT AS I WAS GETTING READY TO COME AND SPEAK ABOUT THE LOTUS, I HAD A COUPLE NOTES I WAS GOING THROUGH AND SEEING WHAT CHANGES HAD BEEN MADE. 
          AND I NOTICED THAT THERE WERE 31 PAGES FROM OUR RESIDENTS REGARDING THIS DEVELOPMENT. 
          AND ALL 17 OF THOSE EMAILS ARE REQUESTING THAT YOU VOTE NO ON THIS CHANGE. 
          THE SCHOOL CAPACITY IS STILL LACKING ACCORDING TO THE SCHOOL FACILITY PLANNING AND
CONCURRENCY APPLICATION, SUNRISE ELEMENTARY AND SOUTHWEST MIDDLE ARE STILL NOT EXPECTED TO HAVE CAPACITY FOR THE
STUDENTS THAT THIS WILL BRING TO OUR SCHOOLS. 
          OUR PUBLIC SAFETY RESPONSE TIMES ARE STILL TOO LONG. 
          THE TOWN CENTER PHASE THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT STRAINS THE SYSTEM AND LEAVES CITIZENS AT
RISK FOR YEARS. 
          AND THE MOST COMPELLING POINT COMES FROM THE CITY'S OWN SETTLEMENT DOCUMENTS IN REGARDS TO
ANOTHER PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, WHERE IT SAYS THAT THE CITY OF PALM BAY'S POPULATION PROJECTION SHOWS THAT THE CITY IS ALMOST AT THE 2030 POPULATION PROJECTION OF 1000 SORRY, 154,289. IT'S ONLY 2026, AND AS OF LAST AUGUST AUGUST 2025,
WE ALREADY WERE ONLY 100 PEOPLE SHORT OF THAT, SO I'M SURE WE'VE SURPASSED THAT BY NOW. AND WE ARE TEN YEARS EARLY, SO JUST KIND OF WONDERING WHAT THIS LARGER DEVELOPMENT WILL BRING TO OUR AREA IN THAT
REGARDS AS WELL. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT. SPEAKER PHILIP LIDDELL. 
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GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS PHILIP LIDDELL. I GREW UP HERE MY WHOLE LIFE. 
          RIGHT NEXT TO MY HOUSE, THERE WAS A PATCH OF WOODS THAT I USED TO SPEND A LOT OF MY TIME
IN GROWING UP, RUNNING AROUND SMALL. BUT I MIGHT AS WELL HAVE BEEN DANIEL BOONE RUNNING THROUGH THE
CUMBERLAND GAP. 
          I JOINED THE MILITARY AT 17, I LEFT, I CAME BACK TO A CITY THAT I NO LONGER RECOGNIZE. 
          THE DEVELOPMENT THROUGH HERE HAS GOTTEN INSANE. 
          WE NEED MORE GREEN SPACES. WE ARE QUICKLY RUNNING OUT OF THEM,
AND WE DO NOT NEED ANY MORE STERILE SUBDIVISIONS. 
          WE WILL NEVER RUN OUT OF THESE ROADS. WE ARE QUICKLY RUNNING OUT OF ALL OF OUR WOODED
AREAS FOR US TO HAVE THESE MEMORIES IN. 
          I HAVE THREE CHILDREN, AND IT PAINS ME TO SEE THAT THEY WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO HAVE THOSE
MEMORIES. 
          I'M EXTENDING TO YOU GUYS AN HONEST, SINCERE INVITE. 
          PLEASE LET ME TAKE YOU OUT FISHING IN THE SEBASTIAN PRESERVE,
AN AREA THAT WILL BE DIRECTLY AFFECTED FROM THE RUNOFF OF THIS SUBDIVISION. 
          LET ME TAKE YOU OUT ON A HIKE SO WE CAN SEE ALL OF THE WONDERFUL WILDLIFE THAT WE ARE
GOING TO BE MISSING OUT ON RIGHT NOW. 
          IT'S ABOUT TO BE TURKEY SEASON. I'M GOING OUT TURKEY HUNTING THIS WEEKEND. 
          AND THEY'RE OUT GOBBLING. AND IT IS A BEAUTIFUL SOUND TO HEAR. 
          THIS WILDLIFE IS QUICKLY BEING STRIPPED AWAY FROM US,
AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY MORE OF IT WITH THESE TERRIBLE SUBDIVISIONS. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. OFF TOPIC. ANY RELATIONS TO CID? YES, SIR. HE'S MY GRANDFATHER. I'M HONORED TO MEET YOU,
SIR. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. YOUR DAD? YES, SIR. YOUR GRANDFATHER. 
          GRANDFATHER. OUTSTANDING. OUTSTANDING CONTRIBUTOR TO OUR COMMUNITY. 
          THANK YOU. RUTH CRAWFORD. 
          SURE. COME ON DOWN. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL AND STAFF. 
          I RECENTLY RECEIVED A FLIER BLACKFIN PARTNERS THEY ARE GOING TO BE COMPLETING OR WANT TO
COMPLETE OVER. 4672 HOMES BETWEEN MALABAR AND 192 ALONG THE HERITAGE PARKWAY. SO I DON'T SEE HOW THAT'S POSSIBLE WITH OUR CURRENT
INFRASTRUCTURE RIGHT NOW. SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY RIGHT NOW IS TWO LANES ALONG THAT CORRIDOR. 
          MALABAR IS STILL TWO LANES. I CAN BARELY GET IN AND OUT OF THE PARK WHEN I COME BACK FROM
PLAYING PICKLEBALL. 
          THERE IS SO MUCH TRAFFIC. THERE'S SO MUCH CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC ON THE PARKWAY. 
          SO NOW I'M SEEING THIS WHOLE BIG FLIER OF PROPOSED FUTURE PHASES. MANY MORE SUBDIVISIONS THAT WE DON'T HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR. 
          SO WHY IS THIS EVEN AVAILABLE? WHY IS THIS EVEN BEING CONSIDERED? WE DON'T HAVE. THIS IS SIMILAR TO DOWN AT 190 AT 95 AND BABCOCK,
WHERE WE STILL DON'T HAVE AN EXPANSION OF BABCOCK EITHER. I KNOW COUNCILMAN ARE WORKING ON THAT VERY DILIGENTLY TO GET THE. 
          BABCOCK WIDENED. YET HERE WE SEE YET ANOTHER DUPLICATION OF THAT EFFORT DOWN THERE AND
NOTHING IS STOPPING IT. SO WHY ARE THEY EVER. IF IT HASN'T BEEN APPROVED YET,
WHY IS THEIR ADVERTISING SO. 
          I HAVE NO. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME SEEING IT. BLACKFIN PARTNERS. 
          NOT SURE I AGREE WITH THAT. WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING. 
          THAT'S NOT GOING TO BENEFIT OUR CITY. THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, CHARLES ALLEN. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, CITY COUNCIL. CHARLES ALLEN,
1568 GLENDALE AVENUE, NORTHWEST PALM BAY, FLORIDA. 
          I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT, I GUESS JUST ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT I BROUGHT UP A COUPLE OF
MONTHS AGO ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE GANG STALKING AND THE TARGETING THAT ME AND MY FAMILY HAVE ENDURED. BUT MY
MAIN FOCUS TONIGHT IS TO TALK ABOUT PALM BAY HOSPITAL. 
          ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS, THEY HAVE MISDIAGNOSED,
THEY HAVE HURT. 
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THEY HAVE JUST BEEN LACK OF INPUT. THEY HAVE BEEN LACK OF EMPATHETIC TOWARDS THE MOTHER OF
MY CHILDREN, TO THE POINT WHERE SHE IS HORRIFIED TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL EVEN IF SHE DOES GET HURT. 
          WE'VE TRIED TO ADDRESS IT WITH ALL THE ADMINISTRATION AT THAT HOSPITAL AND THEY JUST
BRUSHED IT OFF. 
          WE HAD ONE MEETING AND ONE MEETING ONLY WITH,
I GUESS, THE HEAD OF THE HOSPITAL. 
          AND THAT MEETING WAS JUST AN UNNERVING, I GUESS HE,
FOR THE LACK OF A BETTER WORD, DID IT BECAUSE IT WAS JUST SOMETHING TO SAVE FACE. 
          HE DIDN'T DO IT BECAUSE HE FELT LIKE SOMETHING NEEDED TO CHANGE WITH HIS HOSPITAL,
HIS STAFF, OR THE WAY THEY THE WAY THEY'RE WORKING. SHE HAS A FRACTURED ANKLE. 
          SHE'S BEEN WALKING ON THIS FRACTURED ANKLE FOR AT LEAST TWO YEARS NOW. 
          THEY DID IMAGING. THEY PUT ON HER MEDICAL RECORD. 
          HEY, YOU HAVE A FRACTURED ANKLE BUT DID NOT DISCLOSE THIS INFORMATION TO HER. 
          SO FROM MAY 31ST, 2024 TO AUGUST, SHE WAS WALKING ON A FRACTURED ANKLE. 
          WE BROUGHT WE BROUGHT THESE ISSUES AND MANY MORE ISSUES TO THE ADMINISTRATION. 
          AND STILL THEY DID NOT CARE. SO I'M ASKING YOU GUYS TO. 
          WHAT CAN I DO TO HAVE SOME SORT OF CHANGE IN THAT HOSPITAL,
HAVE SOME SORT OF ACCOUNTABILITY? BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THAT'S YOUR HOSPITAL. YOU YOU WORK TO SERVE THE PEOPLE. 
          IF YOU DON'T LIKE PEOPLE, DON'T GET A TYPE OF JOB THAT YOU HAVE TO WORK WITH PEOPLE. 
          IF I DON'T LIKE KIDS, I WOULDN'T BE WORKING AT JPS. 
          YOU UNDERSTAND ME? SO I FEEL LIKE I FEEL LIKE THAT'S JUST LIKE A SLAP IN THE FACE BECAUSE
THEY TREAT DOGS AND ANIMALS WAY BETTER THAN THEY WOULD TREAT A HUMAN BEING, LET ALONE A MOTHER OF THREE. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? THAT'S AND THAT'S JUST THAT JUST GRINDS MY GEARS,
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? AND THAT'S I DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR. I DON'T THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE. 
          AND IF MAYOR MEDINA YOU CALL THIS THE GREATEST,
THE GREATEST CITY EVER? THAT'S NOT GREATNESS. YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S JUST TERRIBLE HOW A HOSPITAL WOULD JUST
IGNORE SOMEBODY'S PAIN. 
          TRY TO INFLICT PAIN. YOU KNOW, JUST A WHOLE BUNCH OF MESS THAT GOES ON REALLY IN THIS
CITY. 
          AND IT'S BEING ON THE HUSH. SO I'M, I'M AT A,
I'M AT A POINT WHERE I'M STILL TRYING TO GET THAT SITUATED. 
          STILL TRYING TO GET THAT FIXED, STILL TRYING TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THAT'S NOT
RIGHT. 
          AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. MAYOR THAT CONCLUDES THE SPEAKERS. 
          I JUST I GUESS IF MR. MORTON WOULD HAVE A COMMENT ON THIS. 
          I KNOW THE CITY HELPED FACILITATE A MEETING. OBVIOUSLY,
WE'RE THE LEGISLATIVE BODY FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY. WE DON'T HAVE ANY AUTHORITY OVER A PRIVATE ENTERPRISE LIKE PALM BAY HOSPITAL. MAYBE MR. MORTON HAD ADDITIONAL COMMENTS. NOT ON THIS ONE. 
          OKAY, WELL, PERHAPS THERE ARE STATE AGENCIES THAT REGULATE MEDICAL FACILITIES,
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, WE WE CAN'T RESPOND TO THAT. SO THERE AREN'T ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS. 
          ALL RIGHT. ANY COMMENTS IN REGARDS TO MR. BATTEN'S MENTIONED IN REGARDS TO POSTAGE? MR. MORTON COUNCILMAN JOHNSON HAS A QUESTION. 
          SURE. I WAS ASKING, WAS ANY COMMENT OR RESPONSE IN REGARDS TO MR. BATTEN'S COMMENT ABOUT THE POSTAGE FOR REPUBLIC? NO, I DON'T I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENT ON THAT TONIGHT. 
          I MEAN, WE CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE, YOU KNOW,
PART OF THE REASON WE MADE THIS MOVE WAS THE INTEREST CARRY. 
          WHEN WE WAIT FOR QUARTERS, WE'RE CARRYING A LOT OF INTEREST MONEY. I MEAN,
WE TALKED ABOUT THAT 1.1 MILLION LAST YEAR THAT WAS NOT, YOU KNOW, UNCOLLECTED OR NOT COLLECTED PROPERLY. I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND AND,
YOU KNOW, RUN THE NUMBERS. 
          I DIDN'T BRING THAT FILE WITH ME TONIGHT TO GIVE YOU SPECIFICS OR ACTUALLY SPEAK
ACCURATELY ON IT. YES, SIR. IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD JUST BE PROVIDED TO COUNCIL AND TO MR. BATTEN, SINCE HE MADE THE REQUEST. THANK YOU,
SIR. 
          TO BE CLEAR, I THINK WE'VE FULFILLED THE PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST OR THE INFORMATION REQUEST
THAT MR. BATTEN HAD. I THINK HE SAID HE GOT IT AND READ IT. 
          I THINK WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW IS YOU'RE ASKING ME TO BRING BACK ADDITIONAL NUMBERS BASED
OFF OF ESTIMATED POSTAGE AND INTEREST, CARRY OF MONEY WE'RE FINANCING. I'LL PUT TOGETHER WHATEVER WE CAN. 
          ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. WE NOW ON THE CONSENT. 
          OH, AS YOU WERE, JUST JUST FOR TRANSPARENCY AND INFORMATION,
WE FOUND OUT THAT ABOUT 20 MINUTES OF OUR MEETING DID NOT LIVE STREAM ON YOUTUBE OR FACEBOOK. THE CITY WEBSITE WAS FLAWLESS, DID NOT DROP THE MESSAGE AT ALL. 
          AND FOR THE PUBLIC WHO EITHER MISSED IT, IT'S AVAILABLE ON THE CITY WEBSITE AND IT WILL BE
AVAILABLE POST. IT'LL ALL BE FULLY UPLOADED. BUT JUST, WE JUST CAUGHT THAT AS A TECH GLITCH TONIGHT. 
          AND SO WE DON'T WANT ANYONE THINKING THAT THAT WAS ANY,
ANY INTENTIONAL. WE'VE HAD THIS ISSUE IN THE PAST. AGAIN, WE MENTIONED THAT ONCE WE SEND 
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THAT CODE OUT TO FACEBOOK AND YOUTUBE, IT CAN BE FICKLE. 
          ONCE AGAIN, OUR WEBSITE DID NOT DROP ANY OF THE FEED. 
          FACEBOOK AND YOUTUBE WERE MISSING APPROXIMATELY 20 MINUTES,
IT LOOKS LIKE, BUT WE'LL HAVE IT ARCHIVED. IT'S ON OUR WEBSITE AND THE TRANSCRIPT, ALL THE RECORDING, ALL THOSE THINGS WILL BE PRESERVED. SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT
WE JUST CAUGHT THAT AND LET EVERYBODY KNOW. WELL, THANK YOU SIR. WE'RE NOW ON THE CONSENT 
          [APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA:]
AGENDA. DEPUTY MAYOR BILL BATTEN. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST. I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF ITEMS TO ADDRESS UNDER CONSENT,
BUT BEFORE I DO, THE FIRST THING I'D LIKE TO DO IS SAY THANK YOU FOR THE CHAIRS. 
          I HOPE THEY'RE MORE COMFORTABLE. I JUST DON'T APPRECIATE THE $50,000 FOR 150 CHAIRS. 
          FIRST ITEM NUMBER FOUR. AWARD OF BID FOR A BUILDING INSPECTOR. 
          I UNDERSTAND HOW STAFF CAN GET OVERPOWERED, AND LOTS OF PLANS HAVE TO GO THROUGH. 
          AND YOU'RE DOING PAGE BY PAGE BY PAGE. I UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS. 
          WHAT MY FEAR IS, AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS PREVIOUSLY THAT HOPEFULLY THIS COMPANY THAT
YOU'RE CONSIDERING HIRE DOES NOT HAVE ANY BUSINESS WITH THE DEVELOPERS OR THE ARCHITECTS THAT ARE TRYING TO
PRESENT THEM. 
          BECAUSE IF THAT'S WHAT THE CASE IS, YOU KNOW,
WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, YEAH, I HELPED YOU DESIGN IT. 
          I HELPED YOU BUILD IT. RIGHT. BUT THE CITY OF PALM BAY IS NOW GOING TO GIVE ME MONEY TO
APPROVE IT FOR YOU. 
          I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO CONFLICT OF INTEREST BETWEEN THE COMPANY AND THE
DEVELOPERS. 
          ITEM NUMBER 11. CONSIDERATION OF ALLOCATING 200. 
          I MEAN, $22,000 FOR FOUR TREES IN THE DOG PARK. 
          I UNDERSTAND IT'S A GREAT CONCEPT. I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS KIND OF EXPENSIVE FOR TREES AT
THAT COST. 
          BUT THE OTHER THING THAT I HAVE THAT BRINGS UP WITH THIS ONE IS A DEVELOPMENTS ARE COMING
IN. 
          THEY'RE DESTROYING MORE TREES THAN THAT. AND I'LL TALK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT RICHMOND COVE,
AND I BROUGHT IT TO THIS COUNCIL'S ATTENTION BEFORE IN RICHMOND COVE. 
          IT'S A DEVELOPMENT THAT HAD AN OAK TREE SO BIG CITY STAFF AND MYSELF,
THREE OF US, COULD NOT PUT OUR ARMS AROUND THIS OAK TREE, AND THEY DESTROYED IT BY DRIVING THEIR VEHICLES AROUND IT. 
          AND THE TREE IS NOW DEAD. YOU CANNOT REPLACE THAT OAK TREE,
BUT YOU'RE GOING TO PLANT FOUR OAK TREES IN A DOG PARK FOR $22,000. 
          I'D MUCH RATHER SEE YOU TRY TO SAVE SOME OF THE MATURE,
MAJESTIC TREES THAT WE ALREADY HAVE HERE, BECAUSE WE'RE ALL GOING TO BE DEAD BY THE TIME THESE OAK TREES REACH WHAT THIS ONE WAS
THAT THEY JUST KILLED. 
          SO YOU COULD BRING IN A PUD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. MR. MORTON, ITEM NUMBER FOUR. QUESTION REGARDING CONFLICT OF INTEREST. I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE A CONFLICT. 
          THERE'S FIVE FIRMS, ACTUALLY, THAT WERE ARE INVITED TO BID. 
          IT'S AN ATTEMPT TO SORT OF SMOOTH OUT STAFFING AND NOT STAFF TO PEAKS AND CURVES. 
          ASSISTANT DIRECTORS HERE. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY,
WE SUPERVISE AND REVIEW THE WORK FOR THE PLAN REVIEWS THAT THEY DO. 
          RIGHT. THIS IS THE THIRD PARTY, SO IT'S ASSISTANCE TO COME IN AND HELP WITH PLAN REVIEWS,
BUT WE RETAIN CONTROL AT THE END OF THE DAY IN TERMS OF IT'S A GREAT QUESTION IN TERMS OF ALL THE THIRD PARTY CONFLICTS BEYOND THE WORK THAT'S DONE IN PROCUREMENT THROUGH THE
VETTING, BIDDING AND DISCLOSURE PROCESS. I WOULD PROBABLY SAY TO YOUR POINT,
IT LIKELY IS IMPOSSIBLE TO KNOW EVERY BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP. 
          THAT'S A FAIR QUESTION. I'M GIVING YOU A FAIR ANSWER,
MR. BATTEN, THAT THEY'RE INVOLVED IN. BUT AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO SUPERVISE THAT WORK. IT IS TO THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE. SO IT'S DOESN'T LEAVE A LOT OF DISCRETION AT THE END OF THE
DAY. 
          BUT YES, THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR. 
          NEXT SPEAKER, DOUG HOOK. 
          GOOD EVENING, DOUG HOOK, 1091 MARIPOSA. I'M GOING TO CHANNEL MY INNER BILL BATTEN HERE FOR
A MOMENT. 
          I AM GOING TO TALK ON CONSENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 11. 
          WHICH IS THE TREES GOING IN AT KING GREEN MEMORIAL PARK. 
          THAT HAPPENS TO BE MY HOME PARK. IT IS WITHIN FIVE MINUTE WALKING DISTANCE OF MY HOUSE. I
GO THERE QUITE REGULARLY. 
          I VERY APPRECIATE HAVING THE DOG PARK THERE AND I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO HAVE
SHADE TREES WITH IT. 
          MY QUESTION IS, WHAT WAS THE PROCESS THAT WENT INTO ACQUIRING THAT BID AND THE PRICING FOR
THOSE TREES? I UNDERSTAND THAT WE WANT SIX INCH CALIBER TREES. 
          THAT WAY WE HAVE SOME HEIGHT AND ALREADY BUILT IN SHADE WITH IT SO THEY CAN HAVE A HEAD
START ON GROWING. 
          BUT QUOTING OUT SIX INCH CALIPER OAK TREES COMES OUT TO ABOUT $2,000 A PIECE. 
          AND THE QUOTE, WE'RE LOOKING AT $5,375 A PIECE OR AROUND THERE. 
          SO I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THAT EXTRA $3,375 IS COMING INTO PLAY WITH THAT. 
          AND WHETHER OR NOT THE CITY HAS LOOKED INTO UTILIZING VOLUNTEER LABOR THROUGH THE
SUSTAINABILITY BOARD OR CONRADINA CHAPTER OF THE NATIVE PLANT SOCIETY OR ANY OF THE LOCAL 
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GARDEN CLUBS TO REDUCE THAT LABOR COST, IF THAT IS WHAT THAT $3,375 IS COMING INTO PLAY IS
INSTALLING THE TREES. 
          WE COULD SAVE POTENTIALLY THE CITY $13,500 ON THIS PROJECT ALONE. 
          IF WE ARE ABLE TO DRAW VOLUNTEERS AND HAVE A SENSE OF OWNERSHIP AND PRIDE IN THAT PARK
WITH PLANTING THOSE TREES. 
          AND THAT $13,000 CAN BE TURNED AROUND TO PUT MORE TREES OUT THROUGHOUT THE CITY. 
          SO WE'RE ABLE TO USE THAT MONEY TO GET A GREATER IMPACT. 
          IF WE KIND OF REEVALUATE HOW WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS PROJECT. 
          JUST A CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MORTON. REGARDING THE PROCESS AND, AND THE VOLUNTEERISM. 
          YEAH. I WOULD ASK MR. MEYER, WOULD YOU COME UP AND SPEAK TO TO HOW WE ARRIVED AT THIS
POINT, PLEASE, SIR? THANK YOU. YEAH. I WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO PULL THIS ITEM JUST FOR THE SIMPLE
FACT THAT THERE WAS ONLY ONE BID AND THE BID IN THE PACKAGE. SO CURIOUS TO HEAR IF THERE WAS ACTUALLY A OTHER BIDS AND
WE'RE JUST NOT GETTING A CHANCE TO SEE THEM. 
          THANK YOU. COUNCIL. MAYOR. WE RECEIVED WE PUT OUT FOR BID AND WE RECEIVED ONLY ONE BID. 
          ONE WAS NO QUOTE. THIS WAS THE ONLY COMPANY THAT THAT BID ON IT DUE TO THE SIZE OF THE
TREES. 
          OKAY. AND QUESTION ABOUT VOLUNTEERISM LABOR. I DON'T KNOW IF THE CITY'S GOT A REALLY ROBUST THIS MIGHT BE A QUESTION FOR OUR CITY ATTORNEY,
BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE A REALLY ROBUST VOLUNTEER POLICY OR PROGRAM THAT THAT IS INHERENT WITH RISKS. I KNOW A LOT OF COMMUNITIES LEAD VOLUNTEER EFFORTS AND SAM FEST. 
          THANK YOU. CARRY ON. SIR. I'M SORRY. SO I'M NOT SURE WE'RE IN A POSITION AT THIS POINT TO
DO. 
          AND PATRICIA MAY BE ABLE TO CORRECT ME. MADAM SMITH. I'M SORRY. I'M ABLE TO CORRECT ME,
BUT JUST IN GENERAL, WHEN WE'RE DOING THIS KIND OF WORK AND INVOLVING EQUIPMENT,
I GUESS. 
          IT'S A GREAT QUESTION. WE'RE JUST WE HAVE NOT BEEN GEARED UP TO DATE TO DO THIS,
AND WE'VE RUN INTO SOME ISSUES WITH SOME OTHER VOLUNTEER EFFORTS WE'VE TRIED, WHETHER IT'S INSTALLING FENCES OR DIFFERENT THINGS, AND WE'VE HAD SOME DIFFICULTY,
I THINK GETTING OFF THE STARTING BLOCKS. 
          UNDERSTOOD. WE HAVE A SUSTAINABILITY BOARD THAT APPEARS TO BE READY TO,
TO ASSIST WITH THAT. 
          CARRY ON. MISS COUNCILMAN HAMMER, ARE WE GOING TO PULL THIS OR JUST DISCUSS IT? WELL, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE ACTUALLY GETTING THAT INFORMATION. 
          I WAS GOING TO MY NEXT COMMENT WAS TO DEPUTY MAYOR SINCE HE IT APPEARS HE WAS PULLING IT
ANYWAY. 
          OKAY. I'LL WAIT TILL WE PULL IT. DEPUTY MAYOR. 
          YEAH. IF YOU'RE ASKING IF WE'RE GOING TO REMOVE ITEMS FROM CONSENT. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A
MOTION THAT WE REMOVE ITEMS FIVE AND 11 FOR DISCUSSION LATER. 
          SECOND. OKAY, I GOT A MOTION. SO YOU AND I CONTINUE FURTHER THE MOTION THAT I APPROVE THE
REST OF THE CONSENT AGENDA AS AS IS, AS IS WITHOUT FIVE AND 11. CORRECT. OKAY. 
          I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. 
          ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. 
          WE'RE NOW ON NEW ON UNFINISHED BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER ONE. 
          [UNFINISHED AND OLD BUSINESS:]
ARE ARE THE APPLICANTS IN THE AUDIENCE? MR. THOMAS,
IS MR. FELIX HERE? OKAY. WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS. 
          DO YOU HAVE A SPEAKER CARD? NO, I DON'T HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS. 
          I THINK STAFF JUST RECOMMENDED THAT THEY COME. IF COUNCIL HAD ANY QUESTIONS FOR FOR THE
APPLICANTS. OKAY. SO DO YOU HAVE COUNCIL? ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. SO WHO'S THE APPOINTEE? BASED ON THE TABULATION FROM THE CITY
COUNCIL. 
          I MAKE A MOTION THAT MATT THOMAS GET APPOINTED TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY
BOARD. 
          SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE,
SECONDED BY MAYOR MEDINA. 
          ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? SIGNIFY BY SAYING NAY. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE NOW ON UNFINISHED AN OLD BUSINESS. 
          ITEM NUMBER TWO. 
          DEPUTY MAYOR. APPOINTMENT OF TWO AT LARGE MEMBERS TO THE CITIZENS ACCOUNTABILITY TASK
FORCE. 
          WE HAVE JUST TWO APPLICANTS, JAY PATEL AND MR. RANDALL. OKAY. OUTSTANDING. SO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE EACH MOTION INDIVIDUALLY. 
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SO YOU JUST MOTIONED FOR JOSE BECERRA. SO MOVED I OKAY,
I GOT A MOTION. 
          I NEED A SECOND. OR WAS THAT YOUR MOTION? AND A SECOND? YEAH. OKAY. SO I GOT A MOTION BY COUNTY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON,
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE. 
          ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES? FIVE ZERO. NEXT MOTION IS TO MOTION APPROVED. 
          JUDY. SECOND. I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON,
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN HAMMER. 
          ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. PASSES FIVE ZERO. 
          HEY, GUYS. JUST SO THAT YOU KNOW THIS CITIZEN ACCOUNTABILITY TASK FORCE MONTHS AGO,
I HAD INITIALLY SAID, HEY, I ALREADY HAD MY SELECTION. IF YOU REMEMBER OUR CONVERSATION,
I SAID, ERIC STEIN, BUT, BUT APPARENTLY I JUMPED THE GUN BEFORE. SO IN MY MIND,
I HAD ALREADY APPOINTED HIM. 
          BUT I'M, I'M, YOU KNOW, I'LL BRING IT UP ON THE REPORTS AGAIN,
BUT HE'S MY APPOINTMENT, GENTLEMEN. 
          OKAY. ERIC STEIN. ALL RIGHT. WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE. 
          [NEW BUSINESS:]
NEW BUSINESS, MADAM SMITH. YES, MAYOR. THIS IS THE CONSIDERATION OF A SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT
AND RELEASE WITH CENTER POINT CHURCH. AS YOU MAY RECALL, CENTER POINT HAD APPLIED TO HAVE TEN ACRES OF PROPERTY REZONED
FROM RURAL RESIDENTIAL TO RS2. 
          THAT REZONING WAS DENIED. TO KIND OF GET SOME IDEA FOR THOSE LISTENING,
THE TEN ACRE PARK PROPERTY IS ABUTTED BY OUR M20 MULTIFAMILY TO THE NORTH. 
          THERE'S RS. ONE SINGLE FAMILY TO THE EAST AND SOUTH,
AND THEN THERE'S THE RS2 AND CENTER POINT TO THE CHURCH, AS WELL AS SOME VACANT LAND TO THE WEST. THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD HAD VOTED TO DENY. 
          COUNCIL VOTED TO DENY, AND THE APPLICANT DECIDED TO USE A PROCESS UNDER THE STATE STATUTE, THE LAND USE AND ENVIRONMENTAL DISPUTE RESOLUTION PROCESS. 
          DURING THAT PROCESS, THE PARTIES AGREED TO A MEDIATION IN WHICH WE DID HAVE A MEDIATION
AND PART OF THAT MEDIATION WE CAME FORTH WITH THIS SETTLEMENT. AND WHAT IT DOES IS THAT CENTER POINT WOULD AGREE THAT THEY WOULD NOT MOVE
FORWARD WITH CHALLENGING THE DENIAL. AS FAR AS ANY COURT HEARINGS. 
          BUT WHAT WE WOULD DO IS ALLOW THEM TO AMEND THEIR APPLICATION AND THEIR APPLICATION WOULD
BE MENDED INSTEAD OF THE RS TWO THAT THEY HAD REQUESTED. 
          IT WOULD BE RS ONE, WHICH IS MORE COMPATIBLE WITH THE AREA AROUND IT. 
          AND TO GET SOME INSIGHT IN THE DIFFERENCE, RS1 HAS A MINIMUM LOT AREA OF 8000FT²,
WHEREAS RS TWO HAS 7500FT² AND THE. LOT WIDTH IS 80FT FOR RS ONE,
WHEREAS 75 FOR RS TWO. SO IT WOULD RESULT IN SOMEWHAT LARGER LOTS AND IT'S MORE COMPATIBLE WITH THE LOTS
AROUND IT. 
          ANOTHER ISSUE THAT CAME UP DURING THE HEARINGS WAS WHETHER THERE WAS GOING TO BE ANY
ADDITIONAL ACCESS, AND AS PART OF THE AGREEMENT, THE CHURCH AGREED THAT THEY WOULD PROVIDE EMERGENCY ACCESS
THROUGH THE PROPERTY THAT WOULD BE DECIDED AT SITE PLAN. 
          AS FAR AS WHAT WOULD BE BEST UPON BASED UPON THE CONFIGURATION OF THE SITE. 
          THIS SETTLEMENT DOESN'T APPROVE THERE. GIVE THEM ANY ENTITLEMENTS OR ANY ZONING RIGHTS. 
          BUT WHAT IT WOULD DO WOULD BE TO ALLOW COUNCIL TO CONSIDER THIS AMENDED APPLICATION,
WHICH WOULD BE BROUGHT FORTH TO YOU DURING A PUBLIC HEARING, USING A REGULAR QUASI JUDICIAL HEARING PROCESS. 
          IT WOULD BE ADVERTISED. IT WOULD JUST BE INSTEAD OF GOING FORTH WITH A LITIGATION,
IT'D BE A CHANCE TO RECONSIDER THIS BASED UPON A ZONING THAT WOULD BE MORE CONSISTENT WITH THE. 
          PROPERTIES THAT ARE SURROUNDING IT. MA'AM, IN THAT DISCUSSION,
AND I THINK YOU SAID ON THAT, DID YOU NOT COUNCILMAN JOHNSON IN THAT DISCUSSION? WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU, SIR, FOR TAKING THAT ON IN THAT DISCUSSION. 
          THE THE EMERGENCY ACCESS. IS IT JUST EMERGENCY ACCESS OR COULD THAT POSSIBLY BE ACTUAL ACCESS? THE ADDITIONAL ACCESS. IT'S JUST EMERGENCY ACCESS. 
          IT IS ONLY TEN ACRES. SO THERE FOR REGULAR ACCESS THERE IS ACCESS. 
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THAT WOULD TAKE IT. NOT SEEING IT QUITE HERE. 
          WHAT'S THE ROAD EMERALD. SO THERE IS ACCESS. BUT IF THERE WAS SOMETHING EXTRAORDINARY
THERE WOULD BE A WAY IN WHICH YOU KNOW. 
          SO WHICH IS WHAT WE HAVE PROVIDED IN SOME ACTUALLY LARGER SUBDIVISIONS WHERE THERE IS
PRIMARILY ONE ACCESS ROUTE. 
          BUT IF THERE IS AN EMERGENCY, THERE IS ANOTHER ACCESS THROUGH A NEIGHBORING SUBDIVISION. 
          AND THIS WOULD BE A RELATIVELY SMALL, BUT IT WOULD BE JUST EMERGENCY ACCESS. 
          SO I'M HEARING AND I'LL ASK YOU COUNCILMAN JOHNSON I'M HEARING EMERGENCY ACCESS AND THEN
LESS HOMES IN ON THAT TEN ACRE LOT. YES. MAYOR. THAT'S CORRECT. 
          AND I APPRECIATE Y'ALL ALLOWING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE IN THE MEDIATION. 
          IT LASTED APPROXIMATELY FOUR HOURS. AND WITH THAT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE
THAT OPEN DISCUSSION. 
          IF THERE'S ANYTHING LIKE YOUR POINT IN REGARDS TO IS IT AN EMERGENCY OR IS IT FOR THE
PUBLIC OF HOW WE CAN MAKE SURE EVERYBODY IS COMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD OR NOT MOVING FORWARD? I WAS THE DECIDING VOTE IN THE DENIAL,
BUT THIS WAS SOMETHING I FELT MORE COMFORTABLE WITH. 
          BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE WORK AS A, AS ONE BODY. 
          SO DEFINITELY WANT THE FEEDBACK FROM THE REST OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND LET'S HAVE A
DISCUSSION. 
          OKAY, SO I THINK YOU'VE DONE A GOOD JOB REDUCING THE NUMBER OF HOUSES,
RIGHT? YOU KNOW HOW I AM WITH ONE ACRE LOTS YOU KNOW,
AND, AND WE'VE HAD SINCE THIS DISCUSSION, JUST FOR THE RECORD, WE'VE HAD PEOPLE COME IN AND COMBINE LOTS TO TO HAVE THAT ONE ACRE LOT. 
          SO JUST WANT TO FOR THE RECORD, THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT DO PURCHASE ONE ACRE LOTS IN THEIR
HOMES IN, IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY. BUT THAT BEING SAID,
THE EMERGENCY ACCESS CAN THAT BE A PERMANENT OR IS IT JUST GOING TO BE A GENTLEMAN? POINT OF ORDER REAL QUICK. YOU KNOW,
RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST, WE'RE LOOKING FOR. I KNOW THIS IS GOING TO BE A QUASI JUDICIAL HEARING, SO WE'RE HAVING A LOT OF DISCUSSION. I BELIEVE THAT SHOULD BE RESERVED FOR THE
QUASI JUDICIAL HEARING. 
          I GOT THAT. BUT WHAT I'M TRYING TO GLEAN FROM IS THE DISCUSSION THAT OUR COUNCIL MEMBER
HAD. 
          SO IN PUBLIC. SO, SO WITH WITH THAT DISCUSSION IN,
IN MEDIATION, WE ACTUALLY HAD TO BRING IN FROM GROWTH MANAGEMENT, MISS DEBBIE, WHO'S IN THE AUDIENCE WHO, IF MR. MORTON DOESN'T MIND, SHE CAN SPEAK TO THAT. THE EXIT THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING OF BECAUSE SHE
CAME INTO THE MEDIATION TO PROVIDE SOME FEEDBACK ON THAT EXIT AS WELL. 
          SO. OKAY, I'LL LISTEN IF IF MR. SMITH, DO YOU THINK THAT'S MADAM ATTORNEY? IS THAT. THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH, YEAH. GOTTA BE CAREFUL. 
          WELL, I DON'T THINK IT'S NOT SO MUCH WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN MEDIATION,
BUT SHE CAN PROBABLY GIVE YOU SOME INSIGHT AS FAR AS WHAT WOULD BE STANDARD OR WHAT WE TYPICALLY WOULD EXPECT FOR A SUBDIVISION OF THIS SIZE AS FAR
AS ACCESS POINTS AND ANY TRAFFIC STUDIES THAT WE MAY HAVE ALREADY HAD, AS FAR AS WHETHER THIS ACCESS POINT WOULD HAVE BEEN ALONE SUFFICIENT DURING NORMAL TIMES. 
          I THINK SHE CAN SPEAK TO THAT. OKAY. HI. 
          DEBBIE FLYNN, ASSISTANT GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR. 
          THIS WAS I WAS THE ASSIGNED PLANNER FOR THIS PROJECT AND FOR SUBDIVISION CONSTRUCTION
PLANS. 
          THE NEXT STEP AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING ITEM. WE WOULD HAVE TO THE APPLICANT WOULD HAVE TO
SUBMIT A PLAN. 
          AND UNDER SUBDIVISION CONSTRUCTION PLANS, THERE'S REQUIRED TWO ACCESS POINTS,
BUT ONE OF THEM COULD BE AN EMERGENCY ACCESS DUE TO THE SIZE OF THIS PROJECT IS NOT A LARGE SCALE PROJECT. IT'S ONLY TEN TO 10 TO 20 HOMES THAT THIS WOULD BE. 
          SO TO REQUIRE HAVE THEM BE REQUIRED TO HAVE TWO ACCESS WOULD BE NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THE
SIZE OF THIS SUBDIVISION IF IT WAS A LARGER ONE, OF COURSE,
BUT THE SECOND ACCESS WOULD BE A GREAT WAY TO USE AS AN EMERGENCY ACCESS INSTEAD OF A PRIMARY ACCESS POINT. AND THE TRAFFIC STUDY WOULD,
THIS WOULD BE SUFFICIENT TO HAVE ONE ACCESS POINT. 
          COPY THAT. THANK YOU MA'AM. YEP. OKAY. COUNCIL SPEAKER CARDS. 
          RUTH CAULFIELD, FOLLOWED BY BILL BENTON. THANKS AGAIN. 
          RUTH CALDWELL, 935 DOUGLAS STREET. WHERE EXACTLY WAS THE PUBLIC DURING THIS MEDIATION? SO I NEVER GOT A NOTICE. JUST SAYING BECAUSE I WAS BEEN PART OF THIS SITUATION FOR AT
LEAST FOUR YEARS NOW, 
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BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN A REPEAT PERFORMANCE BY THIS CHURCH EMERGENCY ACCESS ROAD. 
          UNLESS THE CITY IS GOING TO POLICE THAT ANY ROAD THAT'S THERE IS GOING TO BE USED,
I WILL GUARANTEE IT BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A LOT OF ROAD ACCESS ANYWHERE IN OUR TWO BLOCK RADIUS NEXT TO THIS CHURCH. 
          SO WHATEVER ROAD IS THERE, EVERYONE'S GOING TO USE IT. 
          SO UNLESS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A POLICE OFFICER SITTING THERE EVERY SINGLE DAY FOR 24 OVER
SEVEN TO GIVE TICKETS OUT TO PEOPLE THAT USE EMERGENCY ACCESS, THAT DOESN'T MEAN A THING. SO I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THIS MEANS. 
          SO DO AND THE OTHER QUESTION IS, IS THIS HOW MANY ITERATIONS OF THIS ARE WE GOING TO GO
THROUGH? THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. BILL BATTEN. BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST. I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF ITEMS ON THIS ONE. 
          THE FIRST ONE IS WHAT IS THE CURRENT ZONING OR RANK FOR THIS LAND RIGHT NOW? WAS IT ALREADY RS TWO OR WAS IT MODIFICATION IN THE WORKS. 
          CHANGING IT FROM RURAL RESIDENTIAL. RIGHT. THE SECOND ITEM WITH THIS ONE IS WILL THIS
ENTIRE PACKET HAVE TO BE RESUBMITTED BECAUSE WE'RE MAKING THIS MAKING THIS CHANGE. SO IT WOULD HAVE TO BE PRESENTED TO THE PUBLIC AGAIN. 
          OR WAS YOUR BEHIND THE DOORS OF YOUR LEGAL ACCESS. 
          DID THAT MEET THE CRITERIA TO ALLOW IT TO PROCEED FORWARD. 
          RIGHT. AND THAT BRINGS UP THE WAS THIS GOING TO BE CONSIDERED A SMALL SCALE CHANGE IF IT
IS MOVING FORWARD, OR IS IT GOING TO BE A MAJOR REWRITE? AND THE LAST ITEM WAS SINCE IT WAS DISAPPROVED ONCE, WHAT WHAT AREA IN OUR CODE OF ORDINANCE DO WE REQUIRE THAT IF IT'S SHOT DOWN,
IF A PROJECT IS SHOT DOWN, THAT IT REQUIRED A ONE YEAR BEFORE IT COULD COME BACK TO CITY COUNCIL? I DON'T REMEMBER WHICH PACKET THAT'S IN. I JUST REMEMBER THAT SOMEPLACE IN OUR PACKET,
WHEN SOMETHING WAS SHOT DOWN, YOU HAD TO WAIT A YEAR. DON'T REMEMBER WHERE IT'S AT,
BUT THAT'S THE FAULTING MIND. 
          THANK YOU. OKAY. IT'S MULTIPLE AND I BELIEVE SOME OF IT WAS ALREADY ANSWERED BY OUR CITY
ATTORNEY, MADAM ATTORNEY. YES. THE PROPERTY NOW IS CURRENTLY RURAL RESIDENTIAL. 
          THE MEDIATION THROUGH THE PROCESS WAS PRIVATE. 
          IF THE CASE WERE NOT TO HAVE SETTLED DURING MEDIATION,
IT WOULD HAVE GONE THROUGH A PUBLIC HEARING WITH A MAGISTRATE, AND ALL THE AFFECTED PROPERTY OWNERS, PURSUANT TO THE STATUTE WERE NOTIFIED OF THAT
PROCESS. 
          IF THIS SETTLEMENT IS APPROVED, THEY WOULD BE NOTIFIED THAT THIS THAT THE SETTLEMENT WAS
APPROVED AND THERE WOULD BE NO FOLLOW UP HEARING ON THAT. AS FAR AS IT MOVING FORWARD, IF COUNCIL,
IF ANYTHING COMES FROM PLANNING AND ZONING, IT COMES TO COUNCIL. THE FIRST READING COUNCIL CAN MAKE CHANGES. 
          WELL, COUNCIL MAKES CHANGES IF THEN GOES TO A SECOND READING. 
          SO LONG AS THE TWO ARE SIMILAR, THIS IS NO DIFFERENT. 
          THIS IS US AGREEING THAT THEY WILL HAVE A FIRST READING WHICH WILL BE WITH THE RS ONE. 
          COUNCIL WILL CONSIDER IT AS A NORMAL QUASI JUDICIAL MATTER. 
          IF IT IS APPROVED, IT WILL GO TO THE SECOND HEARING. 
          BUT IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN ANY OTHER MATTER IN WHICH COUNCIL CAN MAKE CHANGES AT THE FIRST
READING. 
          THANK YOU, MA'AM. THAT CONCLUDES OUR SPEAKER CARDS. 
          YEP. OKAY. SO, COUNCIL, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE, I. YES, SIR. CARRY ON. THIS IS FOR COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. 
          WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE ON THE SCHOOL SITUATION? HOW? THERE'S NO SCHOOL OF AVAILABILITY FOR IT RIGHT NOW. 
          NO, NO. COUNCILMAN HAMMER THERE WAS NO DISCUSSION ON THE SCHOOLS. 
          THANK YOU. HOWEVER, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS IS GOING TO COME BACK IN A DIFFERENT
IN A DIFFERENT LIGHT. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? THIS IS JUST AN AGREEMENT TO TO AVERT LITIGATION. 
          IS THAT MY UNDERSTANDING? YEAH, THAT WAS THE QUESTION. 
          ACTUALLY, I JUST CHIMED IN FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY. IF COUNCIL DENIES THIS TONIGHT,
WHAT WHAT COULD BE THE POTENTIAL NEXT STEPS? FROM THE APPLICANT. WELL, THE NEXT STEP. PURSUANT TO THIS PROCESS WOULD BE A HEARING
BEFORE A MAGISTRATE AND WE WOULD HAVE THE. PETITIONER WHO IS SAYING THAT OUR DENIAL OF THEIR APPLICATION IS ARBITRARY AND
CAPRICIOUS AND. WE WOULD HAVE TO SHOW THAT HAVING RURAL RESIDENTIAL IN THAT AREA IS ACTUALLY VIABLE,
AND IT SERVES SOME PUBLIC INTEREST AND SOME PUBLIC CAPACITY BASED UPON OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND OUR LAND
DEVELOPMENT CODE. 
          CERTAINLY, IF WE WERE IF WE WERE NOT ABLE TO CONVINCE A SPECIAL MAGISTRATE OF THAT,
THEN THAT THAT FINDING COULD BE 
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OVERTURNED OR THE APPLICANT COULD DECIDE. AND THIS CAME UP AT THE LAST HEARING. 
          THE APPLICANT CENTER POINT IS A CHURCH. IF THEY DECIDED JUST TO OWN THE PROPERTY AND TO
CONTRACT WITH A DEVELOPER, THEY COULD CREATE A APARTMENT COMPLEX UNDER LIVE LOCAL. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL REMEMBER MAYBE A YEAR OR TWO AGO,
THEY INITIALLY CAME IN WITH AN APPLICATION THAT WAS FOR MULTIFAMILY COUNCIL DENIED IT. 
          THEY WAITED AND CAME BACK WITH THE RESIDENTIAL. 
          BUT IF THEY WERE TO MAINTAIN OWNERSHIP OF THE PROPERTY,
THEY COULD DO A LIVE LOCAL. 
          AND YOU COULD INSTEAD OF HAVING THE RS1, WHICH IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE OTHER HOUSES,
END UP WITH MULTIFAMILY, WHICH IS WHAT YOU ALL DENIED A COUPLE YEARS AGO. 
          A COUNCIL DENIED. I KNOW SOME OF YOU ALL ARE NEWER. 
          OKAY. DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR QUESTIONS OR. I NEED A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT. I'LL MAKE A SECOND FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF
THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT. 
          CONSIDERATION? OKAY. I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON,
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE. 
          ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? NO. MAYOR. 
          OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? SIGNIFY BY SAYING NAY. NAY. PASSES 4 TO 1. 
          WE ARE NOW ON PUBLIC HEARING. ITEM NUMBER ONE,
MADAM SMITH, ORDINANCE 
          [PUBLIC HEARINGS:]
2020 5-05, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY,
BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA. 
          VACATING. ABANDONING A PORTION OF THE SOUTH SIDE 20 FOOT PUBLIC UTILITY AND DRAINAGE
EASEMENT LOCATED WITHIN LOT 26, BLOCK 1410 PORT MALABAR UNIT 30. ACCORDING TO THE REPORT,
ACCORDING TO THE PLAT THEREOF AS RECORDED IN PLAT BOOK 17, PAGE 14 OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY,
FLORIDA AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. 
          THANK YOU MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND DEFER TO MR. MORTON. THANK YOU, HONORABLE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL,
THERE'S NOTHING NEW TO ADD FROM THE FIRST READING. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS? THE APPLICANT PRESENT. COME ON UP, SIR. PRESENT YOUR CASE. 
          YEAH. GOOD EVENING. I'M JOHN BRUNER WITH BRUNER. 
          HAGEN WAS HERE LAST TWO WEEKS AGO. AND BASICALLY WELL,
THE. 
          WELL, STILL AN EASEMENT. SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT. 
          COPY THAT. WELL, THANK YOU, SIR. THANKS FOR COMING. THANK YOU. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH
TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING ASKING FOR A MOTION. 
          SO MOVED. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN HAMMOND,
SECONDED BY MAYOR MEDINA. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? SIGNIFY BY SAYING NAY. PASSES FIVE ZERO. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER TWO. 
          MADAM SMITH. THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ARE QUASI JUDICIAL IN NATURE. 
          PUBLIC HEARINGS, AGENDA ITEMS. NUMBERS TWO AND THREE. 
          ANY PERSON WHO WISHES TO TESTIFY ON SUCH A MATTER MUST SIGN A SPEAKER CARD WHICH CONTAINS
A SWORN OATH TO TELL THE TRUTH. 
          ANY SPEAKER MAY BE SUBJECT TO CROSS EXAMINATION BY THE COUNCIL OR ANY OTHER INTERESTED
PARTY. 
          ATTORNEYS WHO ARE APPEARING ON BEHALF OF THE PARTY AND NOT PROVIDING TESTIMONIAL EVIDENCE
ARE NOT CONSIDERED WITNESSES AND NEED NOT BE SWORN. 
          ANY INDIVIDUAL ADDRESSING THE COUNCIL MUST STATE HIS OR HER NAME AND CONFIRM THAT A
SPEAKER CARD HAS BEEN SIGNED. 
          EACH COUNCIL MEMBER MUST DISCLOSE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION BY DISCLOSING THE SUBJECT
MATTER OF THE COMMUNICATION AND THE IDENTITY OF THE PERSON, GROUP OR ENTITY WITH WHOM THE COMMUNICATION TOOK PLACE. 
          THE ORDER OF THIS PROCEEDING WILL BE AS FOLLOWS. 
          FIRST, STAFF WILL MAKE HIS PRESENTATION, FOLLOWED BY THE APPLICANT THAN ANY OTHER
INTERESTED PARTY. 
          THE APPLICANT WILL BE ALLOWED CONCLUDING REMARKS. 
          THE HEARING WILL THEN BE CLOSED AND NO ADDITIONAL TESTIMONY OR ARGUMENT WILL BE ALLOWED. 
          THE COUNCIL WILL THEN DELIBERATE IN PUBLIC AT THE END OF DELIBERATION. 
          A COUNCIL MEMBER WILL MAKE A MOTION ON THE APPLICATION TO BRING THE MATTER TO A VOTE. 
          EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER IS THEN FREE TO VOTE IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION. 
          RESOLUTION 2025 DASH 27. A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY,
BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA. 
          GRANT AN APPROVAL OF A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR A PROPOSED MIXED RESIDENTIAL
DEVELOPMENT TO BE KNOWN AS LOTUS PALM BAY PDP IN 
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RR RURAL RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT ZONING WITH A TENTATIVE ZONING OF PMU PARKWAY. 
          MIXED USE, WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED NORTH OF AND ADJACENT TO MICCO ROAD IN THE VICINITY
EAST OF INTERSTATE 95 HIGHWAY AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR FILING OF THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATION PROVIDING FOR AN
EFFECTIVE DATE. 
          THANK YOU MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MR. MORTON, THANK YOU, HONORABLE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL. I'M GOING TO ASK FOR OUR GROWTH
DIRECTOR, ALTHEA JEFFERSON, TO COME UP, AND I BELIEVE SHE HAS A SHORT PRESENTATION FOR YOU. GOOD
EVENING. 
          THANK YOU. THE APPLICANT. PROPOSES LOTUS PALM BAY,
WHICH IS A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT UNDER THE PMU ZONING, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE 1350 RESIDENTIAL UNITS
SPLIT BETWEEN DETACHED, SINGLE FAMILY, DETACHED, SINGLE FAMILY AND MULTIFAMILY UNITS,
ALONG WITH 600FT² OF COMMERCIAL AND A 20,000 SQUARE FOOT DAYCARE FACILITY. 
          ESSENTIALLY, THIS WOULD BE A REZONING OF THE PROPERTY TO THE PMU DISTRICT. 
          THE ZONING DISTRICT, PMU IS INTENDED FOR FLEXIBLE,
WALKABLE SITE DESIGN THAT INTEGRATES RESIDENTIAL AND NONRESIDENTIAL USES. 
          REDUCES COMMUTING DISTANCES AND SUPPORTS ENERGY CONSERVATION. 
          LET'S SEE. SUBMITTED BEFORE SEPTEMBER 2024 WHEN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WAS UPDATED. 
          THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION AND SUBSEQUENT ONES ON YOUR PUBLIC HEARING AGENDA TONIGHT ARE
ALL BEING REVIEWED UNDER THE OLD LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED THEIR APPLICATION WHICH INCLUDED A PROJECT
NARRATIVE A PHASING DEVELOPMENT PLAN, A BOUNDARY SURVEY,
PATTERN BOOK AND ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT ALL REQUIRED AT PDP. 
          IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL TAKE THEM. SO YOU MENTIONED 1350 WAS THE NUMBER THAT. 
          BUT THE ADIT IS THE MULTI-FAMILY. SO THE HOW THE MULTI-FAMILY IS HOW MANY. SO LET ME BREAK IT DOWN FOR YOU. 
          YOU PREVIOUSLY, WHEN YOU CONTINUED THE ITEM BACK IN NOVEMBER,
THE APPLICATION PROPOSED 687 SINGLE FAMILY UNITS, 529 MULTI-FAMILY UNITS. AND 156 TOWNHOMES. 
          REVISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE. STILL PROPOSING 156 TOWNHOME UNITS. 
          A REDUCED NUMBER OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES TO 567 UNITS. 
          AND AN INCREASED NUMBER OF MULTIFAMILY UNITS AT 627 TOTAL. 
          THANK YOU MA'AM. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. YEAH. COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON. WAIT, WAIT. I WANT TO BE OFFICIAL. 
          THERE YOU GO. HERE, LET ME PUT IT CLOSER TO YOU. 
          THANK YOU. SIR. CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE. CLEARLY,
WE CAN ALL SEE IT, BUT CAN YOU SPEAK TO. 
          BECAUSE THIS IS ONE OF MY BIGGEST CONCERNS. IN REGARDS TO THE SCHOOL,
THE NEARBY SCHOOLS ARE SUNRISE ELEMENTARY AND LET ME JUST SAY SOUTHWEST MIDDLE SCHOOL NOT HAVING SUFFICIENT CAPACITY FOR THE INCREASE IN
POPULATION. 
          AND THEY. IT SOUNDS LIKE THE SCHOOL BOARD. I DON'T WANT TO. 
          I LIKE THE SCHOOL BOARD, BUT THEY'RE TRYING TO KIND OF JUST PASS THEM OFF TO PORT MALABAR
AND STONE MAGNET MIDDLE SCHOOL, WHICH IS THAT'S A WAYS AWAY, ESPECIALLY STONE MIDDLE SCHOOL. THAT'S ALL THE WAY DOWN BABCOCK DOWN UNIVERSITY. 
          SO TO EXPECT CHILDREN TO GO FROM SOUTH, SOUTH,
SOUTH PALM BAY TO STONE MIDDLE SCHOOL, I JUST, I, I DON'T SEE WHERE THAT'S EVEN SHOULD BE A VIABLE CONSIDERATION. 
          SO COULD YOU SPEAK A LITTLE MORE TO THAT AREA? CERTAINLY. SO THE SCHOOL BOARD DID REVIEW THE ADJUSTMENTS THAT WERE MADE TO THE
RESIDENTIAL MIX AND DETERMINED THAT THERE WAS NO CONCURRENCY MITIGATION. THE WAY THAT CONCURRENCY WORKS FOR SCHOOLS IS SUCH
THAT IF YOU ARE OVER 
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CAPACITY AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD SCHOOL, THEN THEY MAY USE AN ADJOINING DISTRICT SCHOOL, NOT NOT OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTY, BUT WITHIN THEIR OWN DISTRICT TO MEET THE CAPACITY. 
          IF THE OTHER SCHOOL DOES NOT HAVE IF THEY'RE UNDER CAPACITY AT THE SECOND CHOICE SCHOOL, THEY CAN USE THAT CAPACITY. IF THEY'RE OVER CAPACITY AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD SCHOOL. 
          SO WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS. WHAT THE, WHAT THE STATE LAW ALLOWS AND WHAT'S ALSO IN OUR
INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S IT. 
          COUNCILMAN. HAMMEL. MY NEXT QUESTION IS FOR FIRE. 
          SO IF IF IT'S A QUESTION FOR HER, I CAN WAIT. 
          YEAH. COUNCILMAN. HAMMEL. WHAT IS THE LEVEL OF SERVICE? I MEAN, I DO SEE WE'RE PROVIDING MORE, MORE MULTI-FAMILY AND MULTI-LEVEL. 
          WHAT IS OUR LEVEL OF SERVICE FOR FIRE AND POLICE SHOULD THIS MOVE FORWARD? CURRENT. CURRENTLY, OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES NOT HAVE A PUBLIC SAFETY LEVEL OF SERVICE. 
          THERE IS A CAPITAL PLAN FOR THOSE IMPROVEMENTS AND YOU WILL BE SEEING AN AMENDMENT TO OUR
COMP PLAN REGARDING THIS OVER THE NEXT TWO MONTHS. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON. WELL,
I WOULD LIKE IF FIRE COULD COME UP AND SPEAK. 
          IF THEY HAVE ANY CONCERNS WITH A PROJECT OF THIS MAGNITUDE WITH THEIR,
THEIR SERVICES. 
          I THINK WE'RE GETTING AHEAD OF OURSELVES HERE,
BUT COME ON UP, SIR. 
          OH. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU, DEPUTY CHIEF. YES, SIR. BECAUSE AS WE'RE AWARE, YOU KNOW,
WE BROUGHT IN THE TEMPORARY FIRE STATION ONE SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT AREA BECAUSE OF THE CONCERNS IN THAT AREA. SO WITH A PROJECT OF THIS MAGNITUDE,
I WANTED YOU TO SPEAK, BEING A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT IN YOUR AREA. 
          CURRENTLY STATION NINE NEXT TO SUNRISE ELEMENTARY IS THE RESPONSE TIME TO THAT LOCATION
STILL GOING TO BE ABOUT 12 MINUTES. 
          WE DO HAVE A AUTO AID AGREEMENT WITH BREVARD COUNTY. 
          THE RESPONSE TO THAT LOCATION IS ABOUT TEN MINUTES,
AND THEN WE CAN GO DOWN SOUTH WITH INDIAN RIVER COUNTY, AND THAT RESPONSE WOULD BE ABOUT 15 MINUTES. SO A HUGE CONCERN ABOUT A NINE,
TEN, 11 MINUTE RESPONSE TO LOCATION, ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE A DAYCARE CENTER IN THAT LOCATION. OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? COUNCIL, BEFORE I MOVE TO SPEAK? I LIKE COMMENT CARDS,
I DO. 
          OKAY. CARRY ON, MISS ALTHIA. 
          YEAH. YOU SAID THAT IT'S OKAY FOR CONCURRENCY IF IT'S WITHIN THE DISTRICT SCHOOL
CONCURRENCY, THAT'S HOW THEY'RE ABLE TO THEY'RE ABLE TO, IF THE PROJECT PROPOSED WILL CAUSE THE
ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE OR ASSIGNED HIGH SCHOOLS FOR THE AREA TO GO BEYOND CAPACITY,
THAT CAPACITY CAN BE ACCOMMODATED AT A NEIGHBORING SCHOOL. SO THOSE CHILDREN THAT ARE THERE,
THAT NEIGHBORING SCHOOL IS IN A DIFFERENT DISTRICT. 
          SO FUNDING FOR THAT SCHOOL WOULD COME FROM THAT DISTRICT TO PAY FOR KIDS IN OUR DISTRICT. 
          SO I DON'T THINK THAT'S CORRECT BECAUSE FROM WHAT I'M READING EVERYTHING THAT'S NORTH OF
PORT MALABAR, IT LOOKS LIKE PORT MALABAR IS A DIFFERENT DISTRICT. 
          SO WE'RE A DIFFERENT DISTRICT DOWN HERE OTHER THAN STONE. 
          SO KIDS FROM OUR DISTRICT WOULD BE ATTENDING ANOTHER DISTRICT,
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S ACCURATE. 
          WELL, THEY WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE OUTSIDE OF. 
          THERE ARE OTHER ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, MIDDLE SCHOOLS AND A HIGH SCHOOL. 
          SOUTH OF PORT MALABAR. YOU'RE RIGHT. WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE DISTRICT MAP,
IT'S PROBABLY THE IMPACT FEE MAP THAT THEY USE FOR THE FACILITIES PLANNING AND COLLECTION OF THOSE FEES. YES. THEY'RE LIMITED TO SPENDING THE MONIES WITHIN THOSE
BOUNDARIES THAT WE'VE AGREED UPON IN THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT. 
          THANK YOU. SO IF IT'S. YEAH, COLLECTED DOWN HERE,
THEN IT'S SPENT IN THAT SAME AREA. 
          THANK YOU MA'AM. DEPUTY MAYOR. THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU COUNCIL, FOR THE QUESTIONS. I KNOW WE'RE IN THE QUASI JUDICIAL HEARING AND THE
APPLICANT WILL BE COMING UP. 
          BUT JUST FOR HYPOTHETICAL SAKES, IF COUNCIL IS LOOKING FOR AN ARGUMENT TO DENY THE PROJECT
OVER SCHOOL BOARD CONCURRENCY. 
          MADAM ATTORNEY, DO WE HAVE THAT ABILITY? OR. IT SOUNDS LIKE STATE LAW AND LOCAL LOCAL
AGREEMENTS MITIGATES THIS DISCUSSION. 
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THE SCHOOL CONCURRENCY. I KNOW THAT THERE WAS SOME ISSUES AND I BELIEVE THE MISS JEFFERSON
IS SPEAKING ON IT. 
          THE APPLICANT WILL ALSO, I'M SURE, SPEAK ON HOW THEY HAVE ACTUALLY ADDRESSED THE
CONCURRENCY ISSUES. 
          I KNOW WE'VE CHANGED IT UP A LITTLE BIT. WE USED TO ACTUALLY START WITH THE APPLICANT AND
THEN HAVE THE CITY. 
          SO NOW WE'RE STARTING WITH THIS CITY. I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER TO ADDRESS MORE THE LEGAL
QUESTION. 
          ONCE THE APPLICANT WHO DOES HAVE THE BURDEN OF PROOF,
GIVE THEM THE ACTUAL CHANCE TO MAKE THEIR PRESENTATION, BECAUSE I DO ANTICIPATE THEY WILL BECAUSE CONCURRENCY WAS AN ISSUE. IT WAS A BIG ISSUE FOR A WHILE,
AND THEY HAVE OVERCOME THAT. AND I EXPECT THAT THEY WILL DETAIL HOW THEY'VE OVERCOME THAT AND HOW THEY'VE SATISFIED WHAT THE SCHOOL WAS REQUIRING. 
          BUT I DON'T WANT TO MAKE THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION FOR THEM. 
          I THINK THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THEIR OWN RECORD. 
          THANK YOU. AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD HAS A LOWER STUDENT GENERATION
RATE FOR MULTIFAMILY UNITS THAN THEY DO FOR SINGLE FAMILY. 
          THANK YOU MA'AM. SO YES, SIR, THAT WHEN I SAID WE MAY BE GETTING AHEAD OF OURSELVES. 
          WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THE APPLICANT. SO AT THIS TIME THE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT WILL
BE IN SOON, BUT THE APPLICANT WILL COME FORWARD AND PRESENT THEIR CASE. 
          WE HAVE TWO SLIDES. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU. JAKE WISE, CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT. 
          WHAT I BROUGHT WITH ME TODAY IS THE TWO EXACT SAME SLIDES THAT WE BROUGHT BEFORE YOU WHEN
WE DISCUSSED THE FUTURE LAND USE. 
          AND AS YOU MAY RECALL WE WERE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO RECEIVE AT THAT TIME THIS COUNCIL'S
THANK YOU, UNANIMOUS APPROVAL FOR THAT. SO JUST TO BRING EVERYBODY BACK,
WE HAVE. 
          WHICH ONE IS IT? THERE WE GO. IT'S NOT THAT'S NOT WORKING ON THE SCREEN. 
          OKAY. NO PROBLEM. SO WHAT YOU SEE IS UP IN THE TOP LEFT HAND CORNER. 
          THE EXISTING I-95 INTERCHANGE WEST GOES TO BABCOCK STREET. 
          ON ALL FOUR QUADRANTS IS EMERALD LAKES. EASTERN EMERALD LAKES IS NORTH OF THE PROJECT
LOTUS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT. 
          AND TO THE SOUTH OF THAT IS MICCO ROAD. AND THEN A PROJECT THAT YOU'VE SEEN BEFORE CALLED
ASHTON PARK. 
          SO THIS WHOLE SOUTHEAST REGION WE'VE BEEN MASTER PLANNING AND WORKING TOGETHER,
INCLUDING STATE FUNDING FOR THE I-95 INTERCHANGE, WHICH WAS ALWAYS INTENDED FOR THESE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS. 
          THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF ACRES OF RESERVATION LANDS IN THIS WHOLE AREA. 
          AND THESE ARE THE PROPERTIES, FOR EXAMPLE, LOTUS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY USED TO BE
TWO BORROW PITS. 
          THE SITE'S BEEN CLEARED AND IT'S BEEN DISCUSSED FOR DECADES AS FAR AS I KNOW,
FOR DEVELOPMENT. 
          SO THE ULTIMATE MASTER PLAN WAS TO EXTEND THE PARKWAY THROUGH EAST EMERALD LAKES. 
          IS IT WORKING NOW? YEAH, THAT'S THE ONE. YEAH. 
          THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SORRY. THERE WE GO. 
          SO THERE'S THE I-95 INTERCHANGE, EAST EMERALD LAKES. 
          THIS IS THE EXTENSION OF THE PARKWAY. THAT WOULD BE PART OF THIS PROJECT THAT WOULD GO TO
MICCO ROAD. 
          THIS IS LOTUS, WHICH IS ABOUT 350 ACRES. IT'S GOT THOSE LARGE LAKES THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY
BORROW PITS IN THE MIDDLE OF THEM. 
          AND THEN ASHTON PARK TO THE SOUTH HERE YIELDS PRESERVATION LANDS ARE ON BOTH SIDES OF I-95
AND ALSO TO THE EAST OF US. 
          SEBASTIAN STATE PRESERVE IS TO THE SOUTH OF ASHTON PARK. 
          SO THERE ARE A LOT OF PRESERVATION LANDS. WE HAVE WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE WATER MANAGEMENT
DISTRICT TO CREATE A WILDLIFE CORRIDOR ALONG THE SATELLITE CANAL, EVEN GOING SO FAR AS TO HOW TO DESIGN THE SATELLITE CANAL CROSSING SO THAT WILDLIFE COULD
OR COULD REMAIN WILDLIFE CORRIDOR COULD REMAIN OPEN. 
          SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS WHOLE THING FOR THIS WHOLE AREA FOR A LONG TIME. 
          THE NEXT SLIDE, WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT ONE. THERE WE GO. SO THAT'S THE MASTER PLAN THAT WE BROUGHT TO YOU BEFORE WE DID THE FUTURE LAND USE
AMENDMENT I HAVE WITH ME HERE. 
          I WAS JUST GOING TO USE AS A HANDOUT THE NEWLY PROPOSED ONE THAT'S IN. 
          FOR APPLICATION TODAY. THAT'S RIGHT. 
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THAT'S RIGHT. THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE ONE I JUST HANDED YOU,
WHICH IS OUR CURRENT APPLICATION. 
          AND LOOKING AT THIS ONE, EVEN WITH ALL THE PROJECTS THAT WE DO,
IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO SEE A DIFFERENCE. 
          THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE AT ALL IN THE PROPOSED COMMERCIAL. THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE IN THE OPEN
SPACE AND PRESERVATION LANDS. 
          THERE'S A FEW MORE POCKET PARKS. THE OVERALL DENSITY IS STILL AT 3.8 UNITS AN ACRE. 
          SO BASICALLY WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT TODAY IS THE SAME WITH A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT QUANTITY
ON THE MULTIFAMILY VERSUS THE SINGLE FAMILY TOTAL UNITS. 
          WE DO HAVE A GREAT MIXTURE OF RESIDENTIAL TYPES PROPOSED EVERYTHING FROM TOWNHOMES TO THE
MULTIFAMILY TO THE RESIDENTIAL. 
          EXCUSE ME. SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. THE TWO PONDS THAT I MENTIONED ARE ABSOLUTELY
BEAUTIFUL LAKES. 
          OUR PLAN IS TO COMPLETELY RESHAPE THEM. DESIGN AROUND THEM. 
          MAKE THEM THE ONE OF THE BIGGEST AMENITIES OF THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT. 
          HAVE HAS A LOT OF PUBLIC ACCESS IN AND AROUND THEM,
INCLUDING A LARGE COMMERCIAL AREA THAT'S GOT 80,000FT² OF COMMERCIAL AND A DAYCARE. WE RELOCATED THE DAYCARE FROM ITS ORIGINAL LOCATION,
PER COMMENTS THAT WE HAD WITH STAFF AND ALSO WITH OUR COORDINATION WITH THE EELS PRESERVATION LANDS. INSTEAD OF THE DAYCARE LOCATION,
WE PROVIDED A ACCESS TO THE EELS PUBLIC PARK PARKING. 
          SO THAT IT'LL BE EVEN MORE ACCESSIBLE THAN IT IS CURRENTLY. 
          FOR THOSE PRESERVATION LANDS WE RECEIVED AS THIS COUNCIL MEMBERS,
I'M SURE 120 DAY EXTENSION. 
          AND BASICALLY WE'RE GIVEN A FEW TASKS BY COUNCIL DURING THAT TIME. 
          ONE WAS TO RESOLVE SCHOOL CONCURRENCY, ONE WAS TO COMPLETE THE DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT. 
          ANOTHER WAS TO WORK WITH THE CITY MORE ON A REGIONAL APPROACH FOR FIRE FOR POLICE AND
PUBLIC WORKS. 
          NEED SOME KIND OF FACILITY DOWN HERE SO THEY'RE NOT DRIVING ALL THE WAY BACK TO MALABAR
ROAD EVERY TIME TO GAS UP VEHICLES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO WE DID EXACTLY THAT. CAN WE GO BACK TO THE ONE SLIDE,
PLEASE, AGAIN? SO WE TOOK A REGIONAL APPROACH WITH THAT. AND WE WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH THE CITY
MANAGER'S OFFICE, WITH THE CITY STAFF AND ALL OF THE DEVELOPERS OF THIS AREA. 
          SO WE CAME UP WITH IS FIRST ON SCHOOL CONCURRENCY. 
          THIS PROJECT ITSELF, AS YOU MIGHT HAVE NOTICED IN THE DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT,
DOES HAVE FULL SCHOOL CONCURRENCY FOR THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT. 
          PREVIOUSLY, WHEN WE WERE GIVEN THE 120 DAY EXTENSION,
WE DID NOT. 
          A FEW FACTORS WENT INTO THAT. THE PUBLIC SCHOOL ENROLLMENT HAS DROPPED PRETTY
SIGNIFICANTLY, BUT WE'RE ALSO WORKING CLOSELY WITH PALM BAY POINT EAST AND WEST. 
          THEY HAVE A PROPOSED CHARTER SCHOOL COMING. I CAN'T ANNOUNCE WHICH ONE YET,
BUT IT'S A LOCAL ONE THAT YOU GUYS KNOW WELL. 
          PALM BAY OR EXCUSE ME, EMERALD LAKES HAS A SCHOOL SITE. 
          ASHTON PARK HAS A 30 ACRE SCHOOL SITE AND SUNTERRA,
WHICH IS NOT IN THE CITY LIMITS BUT IS ON SOUTH BABCOCK STREET, ALSO HAS A SCHOOL SITE AND WE HAVE ANOTHER PROJECT COMING FORWARD,
CALUMET FARMS, THAT IS PROPOSING ANOTHER SCHOOL SITE. 
          SO WE'RE SOLVING THAT PROBLEM REGIONALLY WITH A MIX OF CHARTER SCHOOLS,
WHICH ARE CONSIDERED BY STATE LAW, PUBLIC SCHOOLS, AND THEN ALSO WITH THE BREVARD COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD TO DO THEIR OWN K TO
EIGHT SCHOOL IN THIS AREA. 
          SO WE DO HAVE SOLUTIONS FOR THAT CONCERN WITH RESPECT TO FIRE POLICE AND PUBLIC WORKS,
WE TOOK A MORE REGIONAL APPROACH. RATHER THAN HAVE ONE DEVELOPMENT, ONE DEVELOPER HAVE TO TAKE ON ALL OF THAT. 
          WE KIND OF SPREAD THEM OUT A LITTLE BIT. FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY,
THE IDEA IS TO PUT THAT ON PALM BAY POINT EAST, WHERE THEY HAVE A SITE PICKED OUT FOR THE FIRE STATION ON EMERALD LAKES WEST. 
          FOR THE POLICE STATION ON ASHTON PARK. LOTUS AGAIN,
IS RIGHT KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT. 
          AND FOR THE DIFFERENT SITES, THOSE THREE SEEM TO MAKE THE MOST SENSE. 
          WE ALSO HAVE A PENDING APPLICATION THROUGH THE CITY TO DO A AND I FORGET WHAT THE TERM WAS. THANK YOU. A SPECIAL ASSESSMENT FOR THIS WHOLE AREA. 
          I WAS TRYING TO FIND MY NOTES. THE SPECIAL ASSESSMENT IS NOT MY EXPERTISE. 
          I'M A CIVIL ENGINEER, BUT FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND,
MEETING WITH THE DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS, LANDOWNERS AND WITH THE CITY. 
          IT IS A SPECIAL ASSESSMENT THAT HAS NOT BEEN APPROVED BUT IS IN THE PROCESS OF BEING
APPROVED. 
          THAT WOULD PROVIDE THAT ASSESSMENT TO LANDOWNERS WITHIN THIS WHOLE REGION,
AND THAT WOULD ULTIMATELY PROVIDE THE FUNDING FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS, THE FIRE AND THE POLICE. SO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON ALL OF THAT PRIOR TO THE 120 DAYS
EXTENSION AND THROUGH THE 120 DAY EXTENSION 
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TO COME HERE BEFORE YOU TODAY. WITH THAT BEING SAID I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO TALK MORE
ABOUT THE CHARTER OR THE, THE SCHOOL CONCURRENCY. KIM HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THEM CLOSELY WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD
CLOSELY ON THAT. 
          WE ALSO APPRECIATE A CHANCE TO RESPOND TO ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS TONIGHT. 
          YOU'RE VOTING ON BOTH THE PDP PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. 
          SO I PROMISE I WON'T GO THROUGH THIS TWICE, BUT HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS COUNCIL MAY
HAVE. SO, JAKE, WHY THE INCREASE IN MULTIFAMILY. THAT WAS WHILE WE WERE WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL
BOARD TO. 
          BECAUSE THERE IS LESS OF A DEMAND FOR SCHOOLS. 
          WITH THE, WITH THE MULTIFAMILY VERSUS THE SINGLE FAMILY. 
          AND IT'S ALSO ALWAYS BEEN KIND OF IN OUR BACK POCKET. 
          I'M SORRY. YOU MIGHT GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE ONE MORE TIME. THAT IF THERE'S MORE DEMAND FOR
COMMERCIAL AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT EMERALD LAKES IN THE NORTH OF US AND ASHTON PARK TO THE SOUTH OF US
THAT HAVE A LOT THIS SITE RIGHT HERE NEXT TO THE LARGE COMMERCIAL AREA, WHICH ALSO HAS THE DAYCARE IN IT, WOULD LOVE FOR THAT TO BECOME A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT
TOO. 
          WE JUST DON'T KNOW IF IT'S SUPPORTABLE WITH ALL OF THE OTHER COMMERCIAL IN THE AREA. 
          SO WE'VE ALWAYS PROPOSED IT FOR MULTIFAMILY,
BUT THAT'S THE LAST PHASE OF OUR PROJECT AND WE'D LOVE TO SEE IT BECOME COMMERCIAL. 
          SO IF I'M TRACKING YOU CORRECTLY, I'M TRYING TO COMPREHEND THIS NOTION. 
          SO APARTMENT COMPLEXES HAVE LESS CHILDREN THAN SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. 
          IS THAT WHAT THE WAY THE BREVARD COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD ANALYZES IT? SINGLE FAMILY VERSUS MULTIFAMILY REQUIRES MORE SCHOOL CAPACITY PER RESIDENTIAL UNIT. 
          YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR. MR. WISE. 
          YES. IS IT IN THE DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT ABOUT THE LAND FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS,
POLICE AND FIRE STATION? I DIDN'T READ IT IN THE IN THE DA. IT'S NOT PART OF THE LOTUS DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT. 
          IT'S PART OF THE AGREEMENT. WE'RE WORKING WITH THE REGIONAL DEVELOPERS. 
          SO THE ASHTON PARK SITE PLAN HAS A DESIGNATED POLICE STATION SHOWN. 
          PALM BAY POINT EAST HAS A SPECIFIC PROPERTY CHOSEN,
BUT THAT HAS ALREADY HAS FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPROVAL. 
          SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CITY STAFF FOR THAT SITE. 
          AND THEN SAME WITH EMERALD LAKES. IT ALREADY HAS THEIR DA,
THEIR FINAL DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL. 
          WE'RE COMING BACK TO AMEND IT, WHICH YOU MAY OR MAY NOT BE AWARE YET. 
          SO AT THAT TIME, WE CAN DESIGNATE THE FIRE STATION SITE ON EMERALD LAKES AND IN THEORY SAY
ASHRAM. 
          LOTUS PARK GETS APPROVED, IT GETS BUILT. AND THOSE OTHER PROJECTS DON'T. 
          WHAT WHAT IS THE SOLUTION FOR FIRE STATION, POLICE STATION AND PUBLIC WORKS ABILITY DOWN
THERE. 
          SO EMERALD LAKES IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION. EMERALD LAKES HAS GOT A $15 MILLION INVESTMENT TO
EXTEND UTILITIES THAT IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW AS WELL. 
          THEY HAVE A COUPLE OF BIG ANNOUNCEMENTS COMING UP WITH SOME LARGE COMMERCIAL END USERS.
THEY HAVE THE FIRST PHASE OF LENNAR SINGLE FAMILY GOING VERTICAL. 
          EXCUSE ME, HORIZONTAL RIGHT NOW WITH THE HOMES JUST ABOUT TO FOLLOW. 
          SO THAT PROJECT IS MOVING FORWARD. PALM BAY POINT,
WE'RE IN FOR PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVAL AND ALSO FINAL ENGINEERING INFRASTRUCTURE APPROVAL AT THIS TIME. WE HAVE, I THINK, HAD 6 OR 7 PRE-APPLICATION MEETINGS WITH DIFFERENT
COMMERCIAL END USERS, AND THEY HAVE 11 OR 12 LETTERS OF INTENT FOR OTHER COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES. 
          PUBLIX HAS ALREADY BUILT, AS YOU KNOW, ALONG WITH SOME OF THEIR OUTPARCELS AND ALL CYPRESS
BAY PRESERVE. 
          CYPRESS BAY WEST HAS HOMES BEING BUILT FASTER THAN I CAN COUNT. 
          SO WE ARE SEEING THAT WHOLE AREA COMING FORWARD AND WE DON'T SEE ANY REASON WE WOULDN'T BE
ABLE TO PROVIDE THOSE TO. 
          ASHTON PARK IS NOT APPROVED YET, SO THAT WOULD BE PART OF ITS DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT. 
          THE. SINCE YOU'RE INVOLVED IN MULTIPLE PROJECTS IN THIS PART OF PALM BAY,
AND YOU'RE AWARE OF THE LETTERS OF INTENT FROM THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, IS IT BASED ON THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPER'S VISION OF ALL THE ROOFTOPS THAT ARE
COMING TO SOUTHEAST? SO IF LOTUS PARK GOT DENIED, DO YOU THINK IT WOULD JEOPARDIZE ANY OF THAT POTENTIAL
COMMERCIAL THAT LLOYD'S THAT ARE ARE IN PLACE FOR EMERALD LAKES. 
          YEAH. WE SEE LOTUS PARK BECAUSE OF THE INTENSITY OF THE COMMERCIAL NORTH AND SOUTH OF IT,
TO BE THAT GAP TO PROVIDE THAT RESIDENTIAL SUPPORT FOR THE COMMERCIAL. 
          IF WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT, I'M SO SORRY, SIR. I'M GOING TO ASK YOU ONE MORE TIME TO GO BACK
TO THE AERIAL. WHEN COMMERCIAL END USERS LOOK AT AN AREA, ESPECIALLY THE NATIONALS, THEY LOOK AT THE DENSITY OF THE WHOLE AREA. 
          ONE OF THE BIGGEST HURDLES WE'VE BEEN HAVING SINCE DAY ONE OF TRYING TO WORK IN THIS AREA. 
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WHILE IT'S AN AMAZING BENEFIT TO THE RESIDENTS,
TO THE WILDLIFE, TO THE GREEN SPACE, ALL OF THIS, ALL OF THIS, ALL OF THIS IS GREEN. AND IT IS SO DIFFICULT TO CONVINCE A NATIONAL OR
ANOTHER TYPE OF END USER TO SEE THAT. AND THEY CAN LOOK AT ORLANDO OR TAMPA OR JACKSONVILLE OR VEGAS OR
WHEREVER ELSE THEY'RE LOOKING TO COME HERE. 
          THAT'S BEEN OUR SINGLE BIGGEST CHALLENGE. AND SO IF WE CAN'T SHOW THE DENSITY OF THE
RESIDENTIAL NEARBY WITH THE CONVENIENT CORRIDORS TO GET TO IT, WE'RE SCARED OF THE COMMERCIAL FAILING. 
          AND OF COURSE, THAT'S NOT WHAT ANYBODY WANTS. 
          SO IT IS A COMBINATION OF TRYING TO HAVE ALL OF THEM BE ABLE TO SUPPORT EACH OTHER. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE SEEN SOME OF THE MORE RECENT APARTMENT PROJECTS. 
          THEY'RE BIG. THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL. THE AMENITIES ARE AMAZING. 
          TONS OF GREEN SPACE. THE RENTS ARE UNBELIEVABLY HIGH. 
          SO THEY ARE TYPICALLY AFFLUENT PEOPLE THAT WILL SPEND AT THE COMMERCIAL END USES. 
          OKAY. I HAD QUESTIONS PERTAINING TO THE TO THE DA. 
          I KNOW THAT'S A SEPARATE PRESENTATION, BUT I SOUND LIKE I MEAN,
THEY'RE ALL THEY'RE ALL THREE KIND OF MARRIED TOGETHER. 
          BUT YOU KNOW, THE, THE ASSESSMENT THAT THAT WE'RE PURSUING DOWN IN THIS PART OF THE,
THE CITY, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S NOT FINALIZED YET. HOW MANY VOTES DOES DOES THIS PARCEL PARTICIPATE
IN THAT? IF THAT, IF THAT ASSESSMENT MEANT MR. MORTON IS. 
          AND IF SO, CAN WE JUST ADD LANGUAGE IN THE D. 
          A THAT LOTUS PARK WOULD SUPPORT THE FIRE ASSESSMENT AND CONTRIBUTE ALL THEIR VOTES TO
SUPPORTING THAT ASSESSMENT? I DO HAVE A SPREADSHEET ON THAT. I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER. I THINK IT'S NINE OR
SOMETHING LIKE THAT. COULD BE A LITTLE HIGHER, BUT I CAN CHECK THAT AND GET BACK TO YOU TONIGHT STILL. AND THEN JUST UNDERSTANDING THE DATES IN THE,
IN THE DAY, LIKE NOTHING'S TIED TO ANY SORT OF PERFORMANCE AND PAYMENT BONDS. 
          LIKE HOW DO, HOW DO WE TRULY HOLD A DEVELOPER ACCOUNTABLE TO ACTUALLY COMPLETING THESE
LARGE OFF SITE MILESTONES THAT, THAT COME TO THAT COME AS PART OF THIS PROJECT? AND IF ASHTON PARK, FOR EXAMPLE, ALSO DOESN'T GET BUILT HOW DOES LOTUS PARK HAVE ANY SKIN
IN THE GAME TO PARTICIPATE AND FUND OR BUILD THOSE, THOSE ANCILLARY STRUCTURES THAT THIS PART OF THE CITY NEEDS,
THAT THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE PROVIDED AT THOSE DEVELOPMENTS DON'T COME TO FRUITION. 
          THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION. VERY FAIR QUESTION. 
          SO RIGHT NOW THROUGH EMERALD LAKES, THAT PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY IS ALREADY OWNED BY THE CITY. 
          THE CITY ALSO OWNS LAND FOR STORMWATER TREATMENT PONDS OUTSIDE OF THE RIGHT OF WAY. 
          SO THAT PART OF IT'S BEEN TAKEN CARE OF AS FAR AS BEING ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE
EXTENSION OF THE PARKWAY. 
          LOTUS ITSELF CAN'T BE SUCCESSFUL, CAN'T GET ANYTHING MOVING FORWARD AT ALL WITHOUT THE
EXTENSION OF THE PARKWAY. 
          THEY CAN'T FLUSH THE TOILET WITHOUT THE EXTENSION OF THE UTILITIES. 
          EMERALD LAKES RIGHT NOW IS EXTENDING THE UTILITIES RIGHT TO THE WESTERN EDGE OF THIS I-95
INTERCHANGE. 
          THE LOTUS PROJECT HAS COMMISSIONED US, AND WE'VE ALREADY DESIGNED AND BEEN THROUGH ONE
ROUND OF PERMIT REVIEWS TO EXTEND THE UTILITIES ACROSS I-95 AND TO EXTEND BOTH THE PARKWAY AND THE UTILITIES ALL THE WAY DOWN TO MICCO ROAD. 
          SO LORIS IS ALREADY TAKING THAT ON. AS PART OF THIS PROJECT. 
          SO THEY CAN'T MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT THAT INFRASTRUCTURE BEING PUT IN. 
          AND I'LL LET MR. ZANCA TALK ABOUT THE SPECIFICS OF THE DAY. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU. THANKS. CARRY ON, MR. ROSENKER. 
          THANK YOU MA'AM. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR. MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL. 
          MY NAME IS KIM ROSENKER WITH LACEY ROSENKER. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF PEET HOLDING,
LLC AND LOTUS DEVELOPMENT. 
          I'M STARTING WITH SCHOOL SCANDAL LETTER SCANDAL THAT WAS ISSUED ON FEBRUARY 13TH OF 2026. 
          IT'S JUST EASIER IF YOU HAVE IT IN FRONT OF YOU. I KNOW IT'S IN YOUR PACKET. WHEN THIS
PROJECT STARTED FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT BACK IN 2022, THE SCHOOL ISSUED A SCHOOL CONCURRENCY AT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ISSUED A SCHOOL CONCURRENCY
LETTER DATED FEBRUARY 22ND, 2023, THAT SAID WE WERE NOT HAVING SUFFICIENT CAPACITY IN THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL OF 239. 
          THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF MY INVOLVEMENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. LACK OF
CONCURRENCY. 
          WE'VE GONE THROUGH SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD. 
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IT'S CHANGED EVERY TIME WE GO WITH THE DEFICIENCY IS I'VE HAD SO MANY MEETINGS WITH THE
SCHOOL BOARD, I CAN'T EVEN COUNT BECAUSE I TOO AM WORKING WITH JAKE ON SEVERAL OF THESE PROJECTS. 
          AND FOR A WHILE THERE WAS NO SCHOOL CAPACITY AND THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT THAT THIS CITY,
SCHOOL DISTRICT AND EVERY JURISDICTION IN BREVARD COUNTY ASSIGNED SAYS THAT IF THERE IS NO CAPACITY IN THAT SCHOOL CONCURRENCY AREA,
YOU MUST LOOK AT ADJACENT SCHOOL CONCURRENCY AREA. 
          IT'S ALSO IN STATE LAW. SO THAT IS HOW CONCURRENCY IS DONE FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. 
          WHAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW IN THIS SCHOOL DISTRICT IS THEY'VE LOST SO MANY STUDENTS. 
          WE WENT FROM NEEDING, I THINK IT WAS 189 ELEMENTARY SCHOOL STUDENTS TO HAVING CAPACITY IN
18 MONTHS. 
          ALSO TOO, WITH CHARTER SCHOOLS, THE NEW LAW THAT CAME INTO BEING. 
          THEY NOW COUNT CHARTER SCHOOLS AS PUBLIC SCHOOLS. 
          THEY HAVE 22% OF STUDENTS IN THIS AREA GOING TO CHARTER SCHOOLS. 
          SO THAT'S REDUCED THE THE NEED FOR TRADITIONAL SCHOOLS. 
          AND THERE ARE MANY CHARTER SCHOOLS THAT ARE COMING IN. THE ASHTON PARK SITE IS,
I BELIEVE, A PUBLIC SCHOOL FOR K THROUGH EIGHT. SO THERE ARE SCHOOL ISSUES THAT ARE COMING ALONG. 
          BUT THE POINT I TELL YOU IS THIS IS THESE ARE ALL PROJECTIONS. 
          AND THIS LAST GO ROUND IN OCTOBER, THEY ARE PROJECTING EVEN FURTHER DECREASES IN THE
PUBLIC SCHOOLS IN ALL OF BREVARD COUNTY. 
          SO IT'S IT'S LIKE THEY'RE LOOKING AT A CRYSTAL BALL. 
          AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE TRYING TO DO THE BEST THEY CAN. 
          AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT DOES A GREAT JOB. THEY'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR YEARS. SO CURRENTLY,
AS IT SITS, THERE ARE AVAILABLE SEATS IN THE SCHOOL CONCURRENCY AREA AND THE ADJACENT SCHOOL
CONCURRENCY CONCURRENCY AREA, WHICH IS YOUR INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT FROM 2014. 
          THAT WAS DONE BASED UPON STATE LAW. SO WE HAVE SCHOOL CONCURRENCY. 
          IT MAY BE AT A SCHOOL A LITTLE FURTHER AWAY THAN IT SHOULD BE. 
          AND NOW THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS ACTUALLY ASKING US TO HELP PAY TRANSPORTATION FEES. 
          WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT FAR YET, BUT SO I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT SINCE WE
FOUND OUT WE DIDN'T HAVE CAPACITY. 
          AND I JUST WANTED TO EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT ALSO TOO,
IF YOU LOOK AT THAT FIRST PAGE MAYOR, IT SHOWS THE STUDENT GENERATION RATES AND THAT SHOWS THAT SINGLE FAMILY GENERATES 0.24
STUDENTS PER HOUSE, BUT ONLY GENERATES 0.11 STUDENT PER MULTIFAMILY AND THE. 
          THE COUNTY CALLS TOWNHOMES MULTIFAMILY. THE SCHOOL DISTRICT DOESN'T AGREE WITH THAT,
BUT THAT'S ANOTHER DISCUSSION. 
          SO I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT BECAUSE WE WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF A
MITIGATION AGREEMENT, NEGOTIATION. AND THEN WE DETERMINED WE HAD SCHOOL CONCURRENCY. 
          REGARDING THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. I THINK IT IS APPROPRIATE TO DISCUSS IT AT THIS
POINT, BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT HELD US UP LAST TIME. AND PART OF IT WAS THE SCHOOL MITIGATION WAS,
AS YOU'VE KNOWN, AND I THINK JAKE DISCUSSED THE PHASING AND HOW THE SAINT JOHNS HARRIS PARKWAY HAS TO BE
BUILT FOR PHASING. 
          NO ROAD IMPACT FEE CREDITS WILL BE GIVEN FOR THIS DEVELOPER UNTIL THE TWO LANES ALL THE
WAY FROM SAINT JOHN PARKWAY. 
          WHAT ENDS NOW TO MICCO ARE BUILT SO THEY GET NO TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEES AND THEY WILL. 
          AS IT GOES ALONG, THEY WILL BUILD MORE AND MORE OF THE SAINT JOHN PARKWAY. 
          THEY'RE ALSO IN DISCUSSIONS WITH ASHTON PARK. 
          TO WORK TOGETHER TO BUILD THAT PARKWAY EVEN FASTER BECAUSE ASHTON PARK'S GOING TO NEED IT
AS WELL. 
          THERE'S NO MONETARY REIMBURSEMENT FOR THE 24 ACRES THAT LOTUS IS DONATING FOR THE PARKWAY. 
          THEY DON'T NEED. THEY TECHNICALLY ONLY NEED A TWO LANE DRIVEWAY COMING TO THEIR FIRST
COUPLE PHASES, BUT THEY'RE BUILDING IT OUT FOR THE FOUR LANE DESIGNING AND BUILDING AS THEY GO ALONG AS
THEY NEED IT, BUT THEY DON'T GET ANY. THEY'RE DONATING 24 ACRES OF LAND FOR THE PARKWAY THAT THEY DON'T
NEED PART OF IT. 
          THEY DON'T NEED ALL RETENTION FOR THE PARKWAY IS GOING TO BE IN THIS PROJECT. 
          SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE GOING IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF PALM BAY TO DEAL
WITH THE RETENTION FOR THE PARKWAY. 
          ALSO WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THROUGH THE TRANSPORTATION FACILITIES IMPACT FEE
CREDIT AGREEMENT, WHICH IS ALSO IN YOUR PACKET. AND THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT THAT IS THESE PARKWAY
INFRASTRUCTURES IS $22 MILLION, AND THEIR IMPACT FEE REQUIREMENT IS ONLY ABOUT 7,600,000. 
          SO THEY ARE BUILDING AND THEY WILL GET SOME IMPACT FEE CREDITS AND YOU KNOW HOW THAT PLAYS
OUT. 
          BUT THEY ARE BUILDING A PARKWAY THAT IS DESPERATELY NEEDED IN THIS AREA. 
          AND THAT'S PROVIDED FOR IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. AS TO YOUR POINT,
MR. JAFFE. I'VE ASKED JASON DILORENZO FOR ALL THAT INFORMATION ABOUT THE SPECIAL ASSESSMENT. 
          I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. I HAVEN'T SEEN THE COST ESTIMATE AND WHAT THAT IS
PER LOT UNIT. 
          I'M NOT SAYING IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AGREED TO,
BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION AT THIS POINT. BUT CERTAINLY BY THE TIME WE COME BACK TO SECOND READING, IF THIS PASSES FIRST READING,
WE WILL HAVE THAT ANSWER FOR YOU AS TO WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN PUT THAT INTO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT THEY WILL AGREE. I DON'T THINK IT'S A PROBLEM. 
          WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS. FOR, YOU KNOW,
WE'VE GOT SOME OF THE INFORMATION, BUT NOT ALL OF IT. 
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IF YOU HAVE MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT OR THE TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEE,
WE ALSO HAVE THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER HERE WHO CERTAINLY CAN TALK ABOUT HOW WE GOT TO THIS PHASING OF THE PARKWAY AND ALSO THE TRAFFIC WARRANT STUDY THAT'S DUE TO BE AT SOME POINT
AS TO WHERE THERE'LL BE TRAFFIC LIGHT NEEDED. 
          SO I DON'T I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW,
BUT WE DO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS. 
          SO I LIKE TO LET THE AUDIENCE SPEAK. AND THEN YOU GUYS CAN COME BACK AND AND REBUT. 
          ALRIGHT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER DOUG HOOK. 
          DOUG 1091. MARIPOSA. AS A QUASI JUDICIAL PROCEEDING,
COUNSEL MAY ONLY BASE THEIR DECISIONS, THEIR JUDGMENT ON FACTS THAT ARE PRESENTED TO THEM FOR CONSIDERATION,
THAT ARE COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL. ONE OF THE FOUNDATIONS FOR THE DECISION TONIGHT WILL BE THE STAFF REPORT, REVISED THREE 1926, PREPARED AND PRESENTED TO COUNCIL STAFF
RECOMMENDATION. 
          IT IS CONNECTED TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT REPORT PROVIDED BY ECOTONE SERVICES LAST
UPDATED NOVEMBER 20TH, 2024. WHILE I HOLD NO FORMAL DEGREE ON THE FOLLOWING MATTERS,
AS A MEMBER OF THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD FOR THE CITY AND HAVING RECENTLY COMPLETED THE UPLANDS, OUR UPLAND SYSTEM MASTER NATURALIST CLASS AND THE EHR CLEARLY
DEFINES THE PROPERTY AS AN UPLAND SYSTEM. 
          I FEEL I'M ABLE TO DEFINITIVELY SPEAK ON THE SUBJECT. 
          THE STAFF REPORT STATES THAT THE DEVELOPMENT WILL INCLUDE A COMPREHENSIVE LANDSCAPING PLAN
THAT INCORPORATES NATIVE VEGETATION AND TREE PLANTINGS, ENHANCING BOTH ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY AND VISUAL APPEAL. 
          IT IS SIMPLY NOT POSSIBLE FOR THE INCORPORATION OF NATIVE VEGETATION AND TREE PLANTINGS IN
A SUBURBAN LANDSCAPE TO OFFSET THE OVERALL IMPACT OF FRACTURING A WILDLIFE CORRIDOR. 
          TRANSIENT WILDLIFE THAT ARE THAT TRAVEL BETWEEN THE TWO ADJACENT CONSERVATION SPACES WILL
BE HALTED BY ALMOST COMPLETELY BY MULTI-LANE ROADS WITH HEAVY TRAFFIC HOUSES, FENCES, PARKING LOTS AND NO AMOUNT OF BEST INTENTIONED LANDSCAPING CAN RESOLVE THAT. 
          STAFF REPORT STATES THAT THE SITE COULD PROVIDE A POTENTIAL HABITAT FOR WOOD,
STORKS AND SNAIL KITES. 
          HOWEVER, THE CONSTRUCTION OF STORMWATER PONDS AND MODIFICATIONS TO THE LAKES WILL RESULT
IN NO NET IMPACT TO THESE SPECIES. 
          AGAIN, THIS IS SIMPLY NOT POSSIBLE. EVERGLADES SNAIL KITES,
A FEDERALLY AND STATE ENDANGERED SPECIES, AS ONE CAN GUESS FROM THE NAME, FEEDS ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY ON APPLE SNAILS. 
          APPLICATION OF PESTICIDES AND HERBICIDES. USAGE IN AND AROUND THE WATERWAYS WILL
COMPLETELY DISTURB THE FOOD SOURCE AND NESTING HABITATS NEEDED FOR THESE KITES. THE EXISTING WAX MYRTLES ON PROPERTY THAT ALMOST WILL ALMOST CERTAINLY BE REMOVED TO MODIFY
THE EXISTING LAKES AND BUILD HOUSING, WILL ALSO DESTROY CURRENT NESTING SITES THAT MAY EXIST. 
          NOT THAT ANY SPECIES STUDY IS CURRENTLY AVAILABLE TO MAKE A DECISION WITH THE STAFF REPORT
CLEARLY STATES THERE ARE NO KNOWN TRUSTED CARRIERS ON SITE. 
          THE AR CLEARLY INDICATES THAT NO SPECIES SPECIFIC STUDIES WERE PERFORMED AS PART OF THIS
REPORT, AND THAT A SURVEY SHOULD BE CONDUCTED DURING THE MONTHS OF JANUARY THROUGH APRIL IN ORDER
TO DETERMINE THE NESTING EXISTENCE OF CHARACTERS IN THIS PEAK OF THE NESTING SEASON. 
          THIS IS ANOTHER FEDERALLY ENDANGERED, AND OUR FEDERAL AND STATE PROTECTED SPECIES STAFF
NOR THE APPLICANT ARE ABLE TO DEFINITIVELY RECOMMEND THAT THERE ARE NO CHRISTIAN CHARACTERS ON SITE. CONSIDERING A SPECIES SURVEY THROUGH THE RECOMMENDATION RECOMMENDED
PERIOD HAS NOT BEEN PROVIDED, DESPITE NOW TWO OPPORTUNITIES TO DO SUCH A SURVEY SINCE THE AR WAS COMPLETED. 
          IN CONCLUSION, I RESPECTFULLY NEED TO STATE THAT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION BASED ON THE IR
IS INHERENTLY FLAWED. 
          WITH REGARD TO ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT OF THE LOTUS PROJECT. 
          I UNDERSTAND THE HARD WORK STAFF PUT INTO THE REPORT,
BUT THE IMPACTS PRESENTED FOR THE PROJECT ARE DO NOT ACCURATELY REPRESENT IT. 
          I SUBMIT TO COUNCIL THAT BEFORE ANY DECISION IS MADE IN THE QUASI JUDICIAL PROCEEDING TO
REZONE UPDATED ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STUDIES AND PROPER SPECIES SURVEYS ARE RECOMMENDED, AS RECOMMENDED IN THE EHR SHOULD BE COMPLETED TO ENSURE THE MYRIAD OF BOTH STATE AND
FEDERALLY PROTECTED SPECIES THAT ARE LIKELY TO UTILIZE THE PROJECT SITE ARE TAKEN INTO PROPER CONSIDERATION. A COMPLETE, COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL PORTRAYAL CANNOT BE MADE. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER LYDIA BARBOUR. 
          HI, I'M LYDIA BARBOUR. I LIVE AT 1638 FORK TERRACE,
SOUTHEAST. 
          I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE OVERALL IMPACT OF WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THIS ENVIRONMENT. 
          I HAVE LIVED HERE SINCE 2019, AND I'VE BEEN HORRIFIED TO SEE HOW MUCH TRAFFIC HAS
INCREASED DURING THAT TIME, BECAUSE THERE ARE MAJOR PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING ON,
SUCH AS LOTUS. 
          THEY'RE IMPACTING THE ENVIRONMENT. I HAVE NOTHING TO ADD TO WHAT DOUG HAS ALREADY SAID
ABOUT ABOUT THAT. 
          EXCEPT THAT THIS THERE ARE HIDDEN CONSTRUCTIONS THAT ARE GOING ON AS WELL WITHIN EVERY
COMMUNITY THAT ALREADY EXISTS WITHIN PALM BAY. 
          I LIVE OFF OF ALDRIN AND IN THE TIME THAT WE HAVE LIVED THERE,
WE HAVE SEEN LOTS THAT WERE FULL OF NATIVE LAND, FULL, FULL OF NATIVE PLANTS AND NATIVE WILDLIFE BE STRIPPED COMPLETELY. 
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EVERYTHING. NATIVE, EVICTED. AND THEN WHAT HAPPENS IS THE LAND IS ELEVATED AND MOSTLY NON-NATIVE THINGS ARE PUT BACK THERE. SO HERE'S THE NATIVE WILDLIFE TRYING TO COME
BACK. 
          IT HAS NOTHING TO SUPPORT ITSELF. SO THE IMPACT ON THE ENVIRONMENT IS NOT JUST AS DOUG
DESCRIBED IT. 
          IT'S AN ONGOING PROCESS. FLORIDA IS NOT GOING TO BE FLORIDA IF WE CONTINUE TO ALLOW THIS
TO HAPPEN. 
          SO THAT'S ONE CONCERN. MY OTHER CONCERN IS THE TRAFFIC ITSELF,
BECAUSE I HAVE SEEN IT INCREASE TO THE POINT THAT ON ELDRIN, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE ARE SCHOOLS NEAR BAYSIDE LAKE,
AND WHEN SCHOOLS ARE BEING OPENED AND CLOSED EVERY DAY, THOSE THAT ELDRIN BECOMES IMPASSABLE. 
          IT HAPPENS ON WACO. IT HAPPENS WHEREVER THERE ARE SCHOOLS,
BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE DRIVING RATHER THAN TAKING. 
          THEY'RE LETTING THEIR KIDS RIDE BUSSES. THEY'RE DRIVING TO PICK THEM UP. 
          THEY'RE DRIVING TO LET THEM OFF. SO NOW YOU'RE GOING TO BRING IN SCHOOL CHILDREN FROM
SOUTH WAY SOUTHEAST PALM BAY UP TO THE AREA WHERE IT'S ALREADY BEING CROWDED,
AND IT'S GOING TO IMPACT TRAFFIC. 
          I DON'T SEE BABCOCK. I DON'T SEE US ONE. I DON'T SEE 95. 
          I DON'T SEE HERITAGE PARKWAY SUPPORTING THAT KIND OF ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC. 
          I HEARD THAT THIS THIS COMMUNITY IS GOING TO REDUCE TRAFFIC,
BUT WHAT I'M HEARING NOW IS THAT IT'S NOT, IT'S GOING TO INCREASE IT THROUGHOUT OUR AREA,
WHICH IS ALREADY BEING OVER UTILIZED. 
          SO THOSE ARE MY TWO CONCERNS. THANK YOU MA'AM. 
          NEXT SPEAKER. KRISTEN LANSANAH. 
          KRISTEN LANSANAH NORTHWEST PALM BAY AGAIN, I'M HERE TO ASK THAT YOU VOTE TO DENY THE PDP
AND MAINTAIN OUR RURAL RESIDENTIAL ZONING FOR THE LOTUS PROPERTY. 
          THIS IS NOT ABOUT STOPPING GROWTH. IT'S ABOUT ENSURING THAT GROWTH DOES NOT EXCEED OUR
PUBLIC SERVICE CAPACITY, WHICH IS THE CORE REQUIREMENT FOR OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          THE PLAN REQUIRES THAT LAND USE CHANGES. CONSIDER THE LEVEL OF SERVICE FOR SCHOOLS,
ROADS AND EMERGENCY RESPONSE. 
          AT THIS TIME, THOSE SERVICES LEVELS ARE NOT FULLY ASSURED. 
          I UNDERSTAND THERE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE SCHOOL CAPACITY SOLUTIONS. THE 12
CLASSROOMS AT WESTSIDE, THE EXPANSION AT BAYSIDE, GO EXPLORERS AND BEARS. I'M AN ALUMNI OF BOTH OF THOSE AND WE CAN APPRECIATE THESE
SOLUTIONS THAT ARE UNDERWAY. 
          BUT EVEN WITH THAT, WE'RE STILL MOVING TOWARDS AN ADDITIONAL PORTABLES AT WEST SIDE. 
          THE BAYSIDE EXPANSION JUST GOT STARTED, SO WE CAN'T REALLY EVALUATE WHAT THAT'S GOING TO
DO LONG TERM. 
          THE STATE CONCURRENCY LAW REQUIRES THAT CAPACITY BE DEMONSTRATED AND FUNDED IN ALIGNMENT
WITH THE DEVELOPMENT TIMELINE, NOT PROMISED LATER. 
          SO APPROVING THESE DENSITIES FIRST AND THEN ADDRESSING THE SCHOOL ISSUES LATER ESSENTIALLY
CREATES THE LAG AND OVERCROWDING THAT WE SEE NOW. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT THE LAW WAS INTENDED TO PREVENT. 
          ULTIMATELY, WE CAN KEEP FIDDLING WITH THE NUMBERS,
WHETHER IT'S A MULTI FAMILY HOME OR A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, BUT WE ALL KNOW WHAT THE IMPACTS ARE GOING TO BE IN REALITY. WE DRIVE AROUND AND WE LIVE
IN THIS EVERY DAY. 
          FINALLY, REGARDING THE PUBLIC SAFETY, THE NATIONAL FIRE PROTECTION ASSOCIATION STANDARDS
RECOMMEND A FOUR MINUTE TRAVEL TIME FOR FIRST RESPONDERS. 
          THE CITY HAS ACKNOWLEDGED IN PREVIOUS PLANNINGS,
AS WELL AS TONIGHT, THAT THAT CAN BE STRETCHED BETWEEN 10 TO 20 MINUTES. SO THOSE ARE ALSO STILL DOUBLE THE RECOMMENDED TIMES. INCREASING THE RESIDENTIAL DENSITY BEFORE OUR
INFRASTRUCTURE HAS EXPANDED IS NOT JUST STRETCHING THE SYSTEMS, IT'S INCREASING OUR RISK. THE APPLICANT HAS STATED THAT THESE IMPACTS CAN BE RESOLVED
LATER DURING THE AGREEMENT AGREEMENTS, BUT WE ALREADY SAW HOW PROMISES HAVE LATER PLAY OUT. THE BABCOCK CORRIDOR IS STILL WAITING
ON THE WIDENING OUR HERITAGE PARKWAY, WHICH WE'VE ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSING. IT'S A TRAFFIC NIGHTMARE. ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE A SURPLUS OF HOUSING AVAILABLE IN THE MARKET HERE IN PALM
BAY, SO WE DON'T REALLY NEED TO ADD THOUSANDS OF NEW HOMES RIGHT NOW. 
          WITH THE WAY EVERYTHING IS GOING, THERE'S NO NEED TO ACCELERATE DEVELOPMENT IN THE LAND
THAT IS CURRENTLY ZONED RURAL RESIDENTIAL, PARTICULARLY LAND THAT SERVES AS A BUFFER BETWEEN THE TWO ENVIRONMENTALLY ENDANGERED LANDS,
AS WE'VE ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSING TONIGHT AS WELL, THIS CONNECTED LAND WILL HAVE DESTROYING THIS CONNECTION OF LAND WILL HAVE IRREVERSIBLE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS ON THE WILDLIFE. 
          AND I'M NOT ASKING US TO STOP ALL GROWTH. I'M JUST ASKING THAT THE GROWTH REMAINS PACED,
PLANNED AND SUSTAINABLE BECAUSE AT THIS TIME, OUR SCHOOL CAPACITY IS NOT FULLY ESTABLISHED. 
          THE ROAD'S CAPACITY IS NOT FUNDED, OUR EMERGENCY SERVICE CAPACITY IS INADEQUATE. 
          AND FOR THESE REASONS, I'M ASKING YOU TO PLEASE DENY THE PDP UNTIL OUR INFRASTRUCTURE
CAPACITY AND CONCURRENCY ISSUES HAVE BEEN RESOLVED. 
          PLEASE PROTECT OUR RURAL LANDS AND LET'S BUILD A VISION OF PALM BAY THAT SERVES THE PEOPLE
WHO LIVE HERE NOW, 
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AND NOT DEVELOPERS LOOKING FOR A QUICK PROFIT,
OR PEOPLE LOOKING TO COME HERE AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF OUR WILDLIFE. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM. NEXT, SPEAKER RUTH COVERED. 
          ALL THESE TALL PEOPLE. I DON'T KNOW, RUTH. 935 DOUGLAS STREET,
SOUTHEAST. 
          I'M HAVING TROUBLE UNDERSTANDING HOW ALL THIS IS GOING TO GET DONE. 
          I KNOW THAT DEPUTY MAYOR AND COUNCILMAN HAMMEL ARE DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB TRYING TO WORK
ON BABCOCK AND MALABAR. 
          SO HAVE WE LOOKED AT THE BIG PICTURE? OKAY. FROM 192 SOUTH,
WHAT PROJECTS ARE HAPPENING? WHAT'S THE DEVELOPMENT TIME FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO BE COMPLETED FIRST? WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? BECAUSE MY INFORMATION THAT I'VE RECEIVED AND YOU GUYS CAN TELL
ME WHAT THE THE ACTUAL THING IS. BUT BABCOCK RIGHT NOW, THE LAST TIME I HEARD WAS A FIVE YEAR COMPLETION DATE. 
          WE CAN'T HANDLE ANYTHING ELSE ON BABCOCK. WE CAN'T HANDLE ANYTHING ELSE ON MALABAR. 
          SAINT JOHN'S PARKWAY IS ALREADY GETTING SO BAD WITH ALL THE CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES GOING
FROM ALL THE OTHER CONSTRUCTION SITES RIGHT NOW. 
          SO THE BIG PICTURE IS NOT EVEN BEING CONSIDERED. 
          SO WHAT'S THIS COMPLETION DATE? WHAT'S THAT COMPLETION DATE? WHERE ARE THESE THINGS HAPPENING BEFORE WE EVEN THINK ABOUT A LOTUS OR ANYTHING ELSE,
ANY MORE LARGE TYPE SUBDIVISIONS. 
          AND I THOUGHT THE MAIN PRIORITY HERE AFTER INFRASTRUCTURE WAS TRYING TO GET INDUSTRIAL
COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES, NO MORE PEOPLE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE CAN'T HANDLE IT. 
          WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY. WE DON'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          WE DON'T HAVE THE LAND. SO WHEN IS THE LOGIC GOING TO GET HERE? AND PEOPLE START GETTING IT INSTEAD OF DEVELOPING GREED,
BASICALLY, PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT PALM BAY AND THEY'RE GOING, OH, THERE'S A TON OF STUFF TO DO OUT THERE. WELL,
WHAT ABOUT THE CITIZENS THAT ALREADY LIVE HERE? WE HAVE TO ENDURE ALL THIS TRAFFIC. WE HAVE TO ENDURE THE FACT THAT I DON'T COME OUT OF MY
HOUSE UNTIL 9 A.M. 
          I DON'T. IT TOOK ME 15 MINUTES TO GET FROM CUMBERLAND TO THIS BUILDING TODAY. 
          IT'S RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET. SO I DON'T SEE THE BIG PICTURE BEING PRESENTED AT ALL WITH
COMPLETION DATES. 
          WHAT IS THE TIMELINE? THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. 
          I GOT A CARD COMING. JUDY CRANDALL. IS THAT THE LAST SPEAKER? THE RESTAURANT. JUDY 751 PEBBLE BEACH AVENUE,
NORTHEAST. 
          VERY QUICKLY. LESS THAN A YEAR AGO, I DID A RESEARCH WITH THE BREVARD PROPERTY APPRAISER. PALM BAY HAS OVER 23,000 ALREADY PLATTED LOTS, VACANT LOTS AVAILABLE. WE ALSO HAVE, I THINK IT WAS 450 SOME MULTIFAMILY ALREADY PLATTED ALREADY IN THE LAND USE WITH NO PROBLEMS. WE ALSO HAVE SEVERAL REALLY GOOD LOCAL BUILDERS THAT CAN BUILD IN PALM BAY. WE DON'T HAVE TO PUT A MORATORIUM ON BUILDING. 
          SO I SAY, LET'S SUPPORT OUR LOCAL BUILDER BUILDING AND OUR BUILDERS ARE OUR
SUBCONTRACTORS. 
          AND LET'S FILL IN WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY BEFORE WE START GOING WAY OUT IN THE BOONIES. 
          THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU. I THINK YOU'VE GOT ANOTHER CARD COMING. 
          DEPUTY MAYOR. ROBERT STAYS. GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL. 
          WHAT IS YOUR LONG TERM VISION? WHEN IS ENOUGH? ENOUGH? WHEN YOU THREE GOT ELECTED, YOU TALKED ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE AS THE NUMBER ONE
PRIORITY. 
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DID YOU NOT? WELL, RIGHT NOW WE'RE GAGGING ON THE EXISTING ROADS BAYSIDE,
MALABAR ROAD, BABCOCK, ALL OF THIS MAIN INFRASTRUCTURE RIGHT NOW. AND I COINED THE TERM YEARS AGO. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S SUBURBAN GRIDLOCK. WHAT I MEAN,
YOU KNOW, THE THE DEVELOPERS MAKE THIS GRAND PRESENTATION OF WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE. 
          WHAT KIND OF BURDEN, WHAT KIND OF NEGATIVE IMPACT IS THAT GOING TO BE ON YOUR FELLOW
CITIZENS? WHAT IS YOUR MISSION AS FAR AS MAKING YOUR FELLOW CITIZENS,
YOUR CONSTITUENTS, TO HAVE A BETTER QUALITY OF LIFE? I'M REALLY NOT GETTING THIS. I'M NOT AGAINST DEVELOPMENT,
BUT THIS IS A GINORMOUS GODZILLA TYPE PROJECT, YOU KNOW? AND WHAT IS IT GOING TO DO? YOU HAVE. 
          YOU'RE GOING TO ENACT THIS WITHOUT INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS. 
          I'D LIKE TO HEAR. HELLO. I'D LIKE TO HEAR WHERE YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE IS. 
          WHAT ARE YOUR PLANS ON THIS? CAN SOMEBODY TELL ME WHAT THE POPULATION IS RIGHT NOW? BECAUSE WHEN I GOT HERE IN 2017, IT WAS 119,000. 
          THEN IT WENT TO 156. I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM PERHAPS CITY MANAGER WHERE WE'RE AT NOW. 
          WHEN IS ENOUGH? ENOUGH? AS A FELLOW CITIZEN,
A LOT OF US ARE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME THING. 
          WHAT'S YOUR ENVISION IF YOU IMPROVE THIS? WHAT'S AFTER THIS? HOW ARE YOU GOING TO SUPPORT IT WITH FIRE? IF PART OF THIS. 
          IT WAS A GREAT QUESTION IS, WHATEVER THAT PARCEL WAS IS NOT MANAGED AND THE WHOLE THING
FALLS APART, WHAT DO YOU DO? HOW MANY INSTANCES HAVE WE HAD WHERE PEOPLE ARE BUILDING HOUSES? YOU KNOW, WHEN I DO MEALS ON WHEELS IN THE AREA AND THEN THE DEVELOPER GOES AWAY. 
          WHAT IS OUR ACCEPTABLE RISK? WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH MY QUALITY OF LIFE AND EVERYBODY
ELSE'S QUALITY OF LIFE? WHAT DO YOU WANT TO BE KNOWN FOR? WHERE IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE YOU TALKED ABOUT? WHERE IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE YOU TALKED ABOUT? I'D LIKE TO KNOW. IT'S A FAIR QUESTION. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO MAINTAIN THIS? OKAY. AND WITH REGARD TO THE HIGH SCHOOLS, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HIGH SCHOOLS THERE. 
          YOU'RE GOING TO GET TEACHERS WANT TO GO THERE. 
          BUT PLEASE, I'D LIKE TO HEAR WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT THIS? AND IN THE FUTURE, WHAT CAN WE EXPECT IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS? BECAUSE THIS IS REALLY GETTING OUT OF CONTROL. 
          THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR. THAT CONCLUDES THE CARDS. 
          MAYOR. BUT JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, I DO HAVE APPLICANT CARDS FOR AGENDA WALL JAKE WISE. 
          MR. GALLARDO AND KIM. I DIDN'T KNOW IF MR. GALLARDO OR GINGER WOLD WANTED TO SPEAK SINCE I
HAD CARDS. 
          SO I'LL CALL THEM UP ONE AT A TIME. MISS. MISS GALLINA. 
          GOOD EVENING. GINGER. I'M ACTUALLY NOT HERE ON THIS SPECIFIC ITEM THAT WAS CALLED. 
          I'M HERE ON THE CDC FOR THE PETITIONER. THAT'S OKAY. 
          OKAY. COME ON. ANYONE ELSE? DEPUTY MAYOR? NO. 
          MAYOR. OKAY. UNLESS. MR. GALLO, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK,
SIR? YES. THANK YOU. THANKS. THANK YOU. MAYOR. THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSION MEMBERS, I AM JIM GILDE WITH LOTUS GROUP. 
          I AM THE DEVELOPER WORKING ON THIS PROJECT. I'VE HEARD A LOT OF QUESTIONS TODAY. 
          OBVIOUSLY THESE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR MANY YEARS. 
          PROBABLY SINCE THERE WAS MASTER PLANNING IN THIS AREA OVER 20 YEARS AGO WITH A LOOK OF,
YOU KNOW, HOW THIS AREA WOULD DEVELOP OUT WITH EMERALD LAKES AND THIS PARCEL AND THE ASHLAND PARK
PROPERTY. 
          SO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS AREA ISN'T A NEW THING. 
          IT'S BEEN IN THE PLANNING PROCESS FOR MANY YEARS,
AS IS SHOWN IN, YOU KNOW, YOUR PREVIOUS COMP PLANS AND SUBSEQUENT UPDATES. 
          IN TERMS OF SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE QUESTIONS NUMBER ONE IS THE PRIMARY INFRASTRUCTURE
REQUIRED OBVIOUSLY IS, YOU KNOW, ROAD CAPACITY, WATER AND SEWER. THE WAY THAT THIS PROJECT IS PHASED IS THERE'S
ONLY A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF THE PROJECT THAT CAN BE BUILT UNTIL THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE AND IT'S PHASED SO THAT THE
BUILDOUT OF THE PROJECT PHASES WITH THE BUILDOUT OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          AND IT HAS TO OCCUR THAT WAY BECAUSE AS WE ALL KNOW,
INFRASTRUCTURE IS EXPENSIVE AND THERE HAS TO BE A MEANS TO PAY FOR THAT INFRASTRUCTURE WITH, YOU KNOW, THE DEVELOPMENT OR THE BUILD OUT OF THE PARCEL. 
          SO IT'S A IT'S A HAND IN HAND THING. IT'S A,
IT KIND OF GOES, YOU KNOW, IN TANDEM. 
          YOU'RE GOING TO BE BUILDING OUT SOME OF THE SINGLE FAMILY WHILE YOU'RE BRINGING SAINT
JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY DOWN AND BRINGING WATER AND SEWER LINES DOWN. AND THE WATER AND SEWER LINES AREN'T JUST TO SERVE THIS DEVELOPMENT. 
          THEY ARE ACTUALLY UPSIZED AS PART OF YOUR WATER AND SEWER TREATMENT PLANTS MASTER PLAN AND
EXPANSION PROCESS TO PROVIDE SERVICES FOR THIS 
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ENTIRE AREA. SO THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF WORK THAT'S GONE BACK AND FORTH,
BACK AND FORTH OVER THE YEARS, AND ESPECIALLY EVEN PREDATED ME FROM FOUR YEARS AGO ABOUT HOW THIS AREA WILL BE BUILT OUT. 
          THERE'S ALSO, YOU KNOW, SOME, YOU KNOW, PREVIOUS,
YOU KNOW, DOCUMENTATION CONCERNING HOW THAT SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY WOULD BE BUILT OUT AS IT RELATES TO THAT INTERCHANGE. AND OBVIOUSLY,
I KNOW THERE'S A VERY LONG, UNPLEASANT HISTORY CITYWIDE WITH HOW THAT STARTED ON THE FIRST END. BUT PART OF THAT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND FDOT DID INVOLVE OR BASICALLY PROVIDE
A COMMITMENT THAT SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE WOULD BE BUILT OUT ALL THE WAY FROM THAT NEW INTERSECTION DOWN TO MICCO ROAD. AND WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT,
YOU KNOW, PHASING THAT INFRASTRUCTURE WITH THE BUILDOUT OF THE RESIDENTIAL THAT IS HELPING SATISFY THAT AGREEMENT AND THAT ISSUE THAT'S BEEN FLOATING OUT THERE FOR YEARS WITH,
YOU KNOW, HOW THAT MIGHT GET DONE IN THE FUTURE AND ADDRESSED WITH FDOT. IN TERMS OF THE OVERALL
SITE ITSELF, IT IS A FORMER BORROW PIT WHICH MEANS IT WAS MINED FOR SANDS. 
          IT WAS MINED FOR LIMESTONE. IT WAS PARTIALLY A CITRUS GROVE. 
          IT WAS PARTIALLY A PASTURE. IT DOES NOT HAVE ANYTHING,
YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, MAJOR UPLAND OR WETLAND AREAS ON THE PROPERTY. 
          THERE HAVE BEEN ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYZES FOR THAT WE ARE GOING THROUGH THE PERMITTING
PROCESSES WITH THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS AND THE SAINT JOHNS RIVER WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT, WHICH ALL, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, THEY BOTH LOOK AT THOSE ASPECTS OF THE SITE AS
WELL. 
          AND THOSE APPROVALS ARE REQUIRED BEFORE YOU CAN EVEN GET ANYTHING TO CLEAR THE PROPERTY OR
DO ANY CONSTRUCTION ON THE PROPERTY. 
          WE'RE ALSO COORDINATING WITH FPL IN TERMS OF,
YOU KNOW, HOW THEIR, THEIR GRID NEEDS TO EXPAND BECAUSE THERE IS SOME POWER THAT NEEDS TO, TO COME INTO THIS AREA. AND ONE OF THEIR MAIN WAYS IS DOWN TO SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY
TO COMPLETE PART OF THEIR GRID. 
          AND THEN THEY'RE ALSO LOOKING AT BRINGING STUFF FROM THE WESTERN PORTION OF THE CITY DOWN
MITCHELL ROAD AS WELL. 
          AND OTHER THAN THOSE FEW OBSERVATIONS, I'M OPEN TO ANY MORE QUESTIONS THAT ANYONE MIGHT
HAVE. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SEEING HOW YOU'RE THE DEVELOPER. 
          I JUST HAD A QUESTION AND COUNCILMAN JAFFE ASKED IT EARLIER. 
          THERE IS NO GUARANTEE THAT IF EVERYTHING GOES DOWN,
THAT INFRASTRUCTURE WILL BE COVERED BY YOU. 
          CORRECT? THE INFRASTRUCTURE WILL BE THERE. THERE'S A COUPLE ANSWERS TO THAT QUESTION. 
          IN TERMS OF THE BUILDOUT OF THE PROJECT, CERTAIN PIECES OF INFRASTRUCTURE HAVE TO BE BUILT
WITH CERTAIN PORTIONS OF THE PROJECT. 
          THE WAY I'M LOOKING AT FINANCING THAT IS THROUGH AN UPCOMING AGENDA ITEM,
WHICH IS THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT APPLICATION. 
          THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, AS YOU KNOW,
IS A LOCAL FORM OF SPECIAL GOVERNMENT GOES OVER COMMUNITY. 
          YOU CAN DO A BOND ISSUANCE AND USE THOSE FUNDS TO SUPPORT YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE BUILD OUT,
WHICH IN THIS CASE WOULD INCLUDE WATER, SEWER, ROADS, OFF SITE AND ON SITE. IN TERMS OF WHEN YOU GET PERMITTING DONE THROUGH THE
CITY THE CITY WILL REQUIRE US TO BOND ALL THOSE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE CONSTRUCTED BY US OFF SITE AND ON
SITE. 
          SO THERE'S ALWAYS A BACKSTOP OF SOME SORT OF SURETY THAT THE MUNICIPALITY REQUIRES. 
          WHEN YOU'RE BASICALLY PULLING A PERMIT AND COMMENCING CONSTRUCTION FOR AN INFRASTRUCTURE
IMPROVEMENT. 
          THAT'S THE INSURANCE POLICY. BUT IT'S NOT THERE YET. 
          IT'S NOT THERE YET. I CANNOT GET TO THAT PHASE UNTIL I GET THROUGH THE LAND USE PHASE. 
          SO I GOT TO REMIND YOU, WE HAVE SOMETHING OUT THERE CALLED THE COMPOUND THAT THIS EXACT
SAME THING WE WERE WE WERE HOPING AND PRAYING BASED ON SOMETHING ELSE HAPPENED. 
          AND UNFORTUNATELY THINGS HAPPENED. BUT YEAH,
I'M SO THERE'S NO GUARANTEE WHATSOEVER AT THE MOMENT. 
          NOT UNTIL WE GO THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS WITH THE CIVIL ENGINEER DRAWINGS. 
          THE MUNICIPALITY APPROVES THE PERMITS, THE CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS. 
          THEY WILL REQUIRE US TO PULL A SURETY BOND, TYPICALLY FOR 110 OR 120% OF THE ENGINEER'S
ESTIMATED COST FOR COMPLETION TO HAVE THEM IN HAND THAT THE CITY HOLDS AS THE HOLDER OF THE BOND AS WE HAVE THE PERMIT. 
          AND THEY BASICALLY HAVE THAT AS THE BACKSTOP. 
          IF FOR SOME REASON CONSTRUCTION STOPS OR DOESN'T GET FINISHED OR THERE'S SOME MAJOR ISSUE. 
          THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR. YEAH. AND JUST FOR CLARITY,
FOR COUNCIL AND FOR THE STAFF AND, AND MY APOLOGIES FOR KIND OF MUDDYING IT UP A LITTLE BIT, BUT THOSE QUESTIONS REALLY SPECIFIC TOWARDS THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT I WAS
ASKING JUST FOR, FOR MORE TEETH IN THE DA, NOT SO MUCH FOR THE PDP OR THE FTP. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING CLARITY TO THAT. UNDERSTOOD. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. MA'AM, MR. ZENKO OR JAKE, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO REBUT THE PUBLIC COMMENTS OR ANSWER
THEIR QUESTIONS. 
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TAKING NOTES PREVIOUSLY. SO I THINK I CAN HIT ALL THE MARKS THAT I HEARD. 
          A LOT OF WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR ARE TIMING QUESTIONS. 
          AND THERE'S MORE AGENDA ITEMS TONIGHT, AS MR. JAFFE, MR. HAMMER HAD ASKED ABOUT. WE HAVE DONE THE ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES. 
          WE'VE DONE THEM REGIONALLY. WE'VE DONE THEM FOR THIS SPECIFIC SITE. THERE'S VERY FEW
WETLANDS ON IT. 
          WE ACTUALLY ARE CREATING WOOD STORK AND WADING BIRD HABITAT. 
          WE GET CREDIT FOR RESHAPING THE PONDS AND MAKING IT BETTER FOR THEM. 
          I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE'VE ALREADY BEEN WORKING WITH THE SAINT JOHNS RIVER WATER
MANAGEMENT DISTRICT, HAVE AGREED UPON WILDLIFE CORRIDOR AND EVEN HAVE COME UP WITH A DESIGN TO HELP KEEP THAT MORE OPEN FOR THEM. WE'VE LOOKED AT CARACARAS,
WE'VE LOOKED AT SCRUB JAYS, WE'VE LOOKED AT ALL THE PROTECTED SPECIES. WE CAN'T BREAK GROUND UNTIL WE HAVE OUR CITY,
STATE AND FEDERAL PERMITS ISSUED. 
          SO IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN,
WE DON'T BELIEVE THERE IS. 
          WE DO THIS A LOT. WE WON'T BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING UNTIL WE HAVE RESOLVED THAT. 
          I HEARD ABOUT THE TRAFFIC. WE ARE BUILDING OUR OWN INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          WE ARE EXTENDING THE PARKWAY AS PART OF OUR PROJECT. 
          WE HAVE A REGIONAL TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO. 
          WE DO PROPORTIONATE FAIR SHARE STUDY THAT IDENTIFIES WHAT THIS DEVELOPMENT SPECIFICALLY IS
RESPONSIBLE FOR, AND THAT WILL COME UP MORE IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. DA DISCUSSION AS WELL. 
          TONIGHT, THE FIRST TWO AGENDA ITEMS YOU'RE VOTING ON AS A PDP PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT
PLAN, FDP FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, ALL THAT DOES, AND I'M MAKING IT SOUND LIKE IT'S NOT A LOT,
BUT IT IS A BIG DEAL, OF COURSE, IS BRING US WITH OUR ZONING AND MASTER PLAN IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE ALREADY
APPROVED FUTURE LAND USE. 
          THE FUTURE LAND USE ESTABLISHES LEVELS OF SERVICE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO ALL WE'RE ASKING FOR IN THESE FIRST TWO AGENDA ITEMS IS FOR OUR ZONING TO MATCH THE
CITY'S COMP PLAN, WHICH RIGHT NOW IT DOESN'T IT DOESN'T MATCH UP RIGHT NOW. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT THOSE FIRST TWO APPLICATIONS ARE FOR US. 
          LET'S SEE. SO I HEARD TALK ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL AS WELL. 
          THE SINGLE BIGGEST CONCERN WE HEAR FROM THE RESIDENTS. 
          WE DO A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS. WE COME TO A LOT OF COUNCIL MEETINGS AND PNC
MEETINGS. 
          IS THAT THEY'D LIKE MORE NEIGHBORHOOD SHOPPING,
RESTAURANTS AND NEARBY MEDICAL. 
          I'VE BEEN COMING BEFORE YOU FOR ALMOST TWO DECADES ABOUT THIS AREA. 
          YOU REMEMBER ME TALKING ABOUT PUBLIX COMING? YOU REMEMBER US TALKING ABOUT THE PARKWAY
GETTING DONE. REMEMBER US TALKING ABOUT ALL THAT COMMERCIAL COMING NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL. THE RESIDENTS HAVE ASKED FOR. THAT'S ALL HAPPENING. 
          I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS DRIVING UP I-95 AND I SAW THESE BIG BUILDINGS GOING UP THE MIDDLE
COW FIELDS, WHICH IS NOW VIERA. THAT'S HOW IT STARTED, WAS WITH GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS GOING UP. 
          IT'S BEEN DECADES TO GET THERE. SO I HEAR ALL THE TIME QUESTIONS LIKE,
WHAT'S THE TIMELINE? IT TAKES TIME BECAUSE OF MARKET CONDITIONS AND LOTS OF OTHER FACTORS. 
          THE JOB GROWTH IN THIS AREA IS TREMENDOUS. THE DEMAND FOR HOMES IS TREMENDOUS. 
          WE ARE VERY CLOSE TO THE I-95 INTERCHANGE. SO NOT ONLY WOULD THIS LOTUS PROJECT BRIDGE
BETWEEN EMERALD AND ASHTON AND SUPPORT THEM WITH RESIDENTIAL. 
          FOR THE MORE REGIONAL COMMERCIAL. IT ALSO HELPS SUPPORT ALL THOSE JOBS. 
          THERE'S A COUPLE OF HUGE PROJECTS COMING AT THE MELBOURNE AIRPORT,
WHICH IS JUST UP THE ROAD, AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE MORE AND MORE DEMAND FOR ALL THESE DIFFERENT VARIOUS TYPES
OF HOUSING. 
          SO I'M CHECKING MY NOTES REAL QUICK. THE TIMELINE IS ALSO PART OF THE DEVELOPER'S
AGREEMENT, THE INFRASTRUCTURE. SO ALSO LATER IN THIS AGENDA IS THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. 
          THE CDC EMERALD LAKES IS CDC, ASHTON PARK IS A CDC. 
          CHAPARRAL IS A CDC. LOTUS IS APPLYING TO BECOME A CDC. 
          THAT IS HOW WE GET THE FUNDING TO BE ABLE TO PUT IN THAT INFRASTRUCTURE UPFRONT. 
          I MENTIONED EARLIER, EMERALD LAKES RIGHT NOW IS PUTTING IN A $15 MILLION UTILITY EXTENSION
ALONE JUST TO BE ABLE TO FLUSH THE FIRST TOILET ON THAT PROPERTY. THEY'RE BRINGING IN 15 OR 16 AND 20 INCH MAINS IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO FLUSH THAT
FIRST TOILET. 
          IT'S ALSO HELPING TO SUPPORT PALM BAY POINT EAST AND WEST. 
          PUBLIX PUT IN A 16 INCH WATER MAIN WAY OVERSIZE FOR WHAT THEY NEEDED,
BUT THEY WERE DOING THEIR PART TO HELP ALSO WITH ALL THAT INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          SO ALL THESE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT ARE COMING,
AND THEN WE'RE JUST STARTING TO EXTEND IT FURTHER EAST AS WELL WITH THIS PROJECT. 
          THE PROCESS OF A CDC FUNDING THOSE TYPES OF INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS IS IT HAS TO BE FULLY
DESIGNED. 
          YOU HAVE TO HAVE ENGINEERING ESTIMATES AND IT HAS TO GO THROUGH A VERY FORMAL PROCESS. 
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WE'RE NOT THERE YET BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE ZONING AND WE DON'T HAVE THE FDP APPROVAL. 
          ONCE THAT HAPPENS, WE HAVE CONSTRUCTION PLANS. 
          WE CAN FORMULATE THE ENGINEERING ESTIMATES SO THAT THE CDC CAN GO AHEAD AND FUND THEM. 
          THAT'S WHAT EMERALD LAKES JUST DID, AND IT'S STILL IN THE PROCESS OF CONTINUING TO DO. 
          SO YOU'RE STARTING TO SEE THAT HAPPEN, BUT WE CAN'T DO THAT YET BECAUSE OF THE PROCESS. 
          THE BONDS THAT WE'LL HAVE FOR THE CITY SO THAT THE CITY HAS THE SURETY THAT THEY WILL
BUILD WHAT'S APPROVED. 
          THAT'S PART OF THE SITE PLAN APPROVAL PROCESS. 
          THE VERY LAST STEP IS THAT YOUR ENGINEERS AND CONSULTANTS APPROVE OUR ENGINEERING COST
ESTIMATE BASED ON OUR APPROVED DESIGN, AND THEN WE DETERMINE THE BOND. THE BOND IS TYPICALLY 125% OF THE ENGINEER'S COST
ESTIMATE. 
          SO THAT WAY YOU HAVE EXTRA FUNDS AS WELL TO BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THAT. 
          THE SCHOOL CAPACITY IS ALREADY RESOLVED HERE. 
          AND THEN I MENTIONED TO YOU THREE MORE CHARTER SCHOOL PROJECTS COMING. 
          THOSE WEREN'T EVEN PART OF THE CONSIDERATION FOR THE SCHOOL BOARD CONCURRENCY BEING
APPROVED AND THEIR FOLLOWING. 
          OF COURSE, WHAT THEIR PROCESSES ARE. THIS THIS DESIGN MEETS ALL YOUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE
REQUIREMENTS. 
          IT'S IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE ALREADY APPROVED FUTURE LAND USE. 
          WE HAVE THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF STAFF APPROVAL AND PLANNING AND ZONING RECOMMENDED
APPROVAL. 
          SO WITH THAT, I THINK I ANSWERED ALL THE QUESTIONS I HEARD. 
          BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY MORE QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. I DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS
TIME. 
          THANK YOU. COUNCIL NO QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. SO THAT CONCLUDES OUR LAST SPEAKER. 
          IS MISS ROSENKER COMING TO SPEAK? NO, MA'AM. NO. 
          YOU'RE GOING TO YIELD YOUR THREE MINUTES AND 25 SECONDS. 
          THANK YOU MA'AM. OKAY, WAIT, I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          OKAY. MR. MORTON IF I'M READY TO CALL HIM CHIEF ALREADY. 
          DEPUTY CHIEF SPEARS, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. 
          I HAD ASKED FIRE. I WANTED TO ASK THE SAME QUESTION. 
          COPY. YES, SIR. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR. COUNCIL. 
          HE DIDN'T. I DIDN'T PRESS THE BUTTON. I DIDN'T PRESS THE BUTTON. 
          MY APOLOGIES. SO I HAVE TO GUESS WHO. SO, MY MY QUESTION. 
          DEPUTY CHIEF SPEARS, HOW WOULD THE SAME QUESTION I ASKED FOR OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT? HOW WOULD THE INCREASE IN MULTIFAMILY AFFECT POLICE'S CAPACITY IN THAT AREA? SO FIRE IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN WE ARE JUST IN TERMS OF WHEN IT COMES TO POLICE
SUBSTATIONS VERSUS FIRE STATIONS, OBVIOUSLY, YOUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, THOSE RESOURCES ARE DEPLOYED FROM THE FIRE STATIONS,
RIGHT? WE EXPECT OUR OFFICERS TO BE OUT MORE PROACTIVE IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS,
IN OUR STREETS. 
          BUT WHAT WE HAVE FOUND IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA AS YOU ALL PROBABLY KNOW,
ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, WE SPLIT THIS SOUTH INTO THE CITY INTO TWO DIFFERENT DISTRICTS. 
          SO THIS AREA HERE IS WITHIN OUR DISTRICT FOUR AREA OF RESPONSIBILITY. 
          AND THAT'S ESSENTIALLY EVERYTHING SOUTH FROM WYOMING INTO THE BAYSIDE AREA AND THEN SOUTH, RIGHT. WE'VE SEEN SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN OUR RESPONSE TIMES FROM THIS AREA. 
          RIGHT NOW WE'RE HOVERING AROUND THE EIGHT MINUTE AND 30 MARK FOR PRIORITY TWO CALLS JUST
IN THIS AREA. 
          LAST YEAR, WE SAW ABOUT 17,000 CALLS FOR SERVICE WITH THE CURRENT POPULATION THAT WE HAD
THEN. 
          SO I BELIEVE THAT OBVIOUSLY MORE ROOFTOPS, MORE PEOPLE IN THAT AREA WILL SIGNIFICANTLY
IMPACT OUR LEVEL OF SERVICE. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS WHILE THE CHIEF IS. 
          COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN NO, NO, JUST JUST FOR CLARITY. 
          FOR CLARITY, MAYOR GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR MENTIONED EARLIER THAT OUR COMPREHENSIVE
PLAN DOESN'T ACTUALLY ALLOW US TO DENY PROJECT OVER LEVEL LEVEL OF SERVICE AT THIS TIME. COPY THAT. THANK YOU. OKAY. COUNCIL. YEAH. 
          MADAM. MADAM SMITH. YEAH. MADAM SMITH IS GOING TO. 
          I DO WANT TO MAKE A CLARIFICATION. NO, WE DO NOT HAVE LEVEL OF SERVICE IN OUR COMP PLAN
CURRENTLY. 
          THE ADEQUACY AND AVAILABILITY OF EXISTING POLICE AND FIRE SERVICES TO SUPPORT THE PROPOSED
PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT IS A CRITERIA THAT YOU CAN CONSIDER FOR WHEN LOOKING TO APPROVE A PLAN PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN,
AND THAT'S IN OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CURRENTLY. 
          SO NO, WE DON'T HAVE IT IN THE COMP PLAN, BUT WE DO HAVE IT AS A STANDARD FOR REVIEW FOR
THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN. 
          COPY THAT. WELL THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF OUR CITY ATTORNEY? ALRIGHT. SEEING NONE I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND GENTLEMEN,
WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE? 
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AND MAYOR. I APPRECIATE THE CITY ATTORNEY FOR SAYING THAT. 
          BUT MOVING FORWARD, I MAKE A MOTION TO DENY THE RESOLUTION 2026 DASH 27 BASED ON THE
COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE FROM OUR PUBLIC SERVICE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS. 
          AND I WILL HOPE FOR A SECOND. I SECOND MAYOR. 
          OKAY. I'VE GOT A MOTION TO DENY. EXCUSE ME. GENTLEMEN. 
          MOTION TO DENY. BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN. 
          IT APPEARS I'M LOSING MY VOICE AT THIS POINT. 
          OH, YES. OKAY. COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON. YOU MADE THE MOTION TO DENY. 
          YEAH, THERE'S THERE'S NOTHING ELSE TO REALLY ADD. I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS FROM THE
PUBLIC AND EVERYTHING, BUT TO DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE'S POINT. 
          WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE IT'S IT'S TO THE LETTER OF THE LAW AND BASED OFF WHAT THE CITY
ATTORNEY WAS JUST SPEAKING ON WAS EXACTLY WHERE I WAS COMING FROM, WHICH IS WHY I WAS ALSO ASKING THE QUESTIONS I ASKED IN REGARDS TO HEARING FROM OUR
SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS IN OUR AUDIENCE. 
          BUT NOTHING ELSE THAT NEEDS TO BE SAID, SIR. WELL,
COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN, YOU SECONDED THE MOTION. YEAH, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING COUNCILMAN JOHNSON JUST SAID,
SO I'M GOING TO LEAVE IT AT THAT. COPY THAT. SO ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO WEIGH IN? COUNCILMAN. HAMMER. I'M IN AGREEANCE WITH. OKAY. 
          COUNCILMAN. DEPUTY MAYOR. NO COMMENT. SO I'LL JUST SAY I WAS STUCK ON THAT THE MULTIFAMILY
ISSUE, RIGHT? AS YOU PROBABLY ARE AWARE. SO RIGHT NOW I GOT A MOTION TO DENY BY COUNCILMAN
JOHNSON AGAIN AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN. 
          ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED SIGNIFY BY SAYING NAY. 
          MOTION TO DENY PASSES FIVE ZERO. WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK. 
          THANK YOU. I'M CALLING THIS MEETING BACK TO ORDER. 
          I'M CALLING THIS MEETING BACK TO ORDER. MADAM SMITH. 
          YES, SIR. IS THERE A NEED FOR US TO GO INTO MY ITEM THREE? NO, SIR. ITEM THREE, WHICH IS THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN,
IS MOOT BECAUSE YOU DID NOT. 
          THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THANK YOU MA'AM. 
          SO WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR, MADAM SMITH. 
          YES. AND THE APPLICANT'S ATTORNEY IS COMING. AND I THINK SHE HAS A REQUEST REGARDING THIS. 
          THAT IS. THAT IS CORRECT. GINGER, AGAIN, FOR THE PETITIONER ON THE PETITION FOR THE CD,
BASED UPON THE DECISION THAT WAS MADE ALREADY BY THIS COUNCIL, WE WILL WE WILL REMOVE THIS ITEM FOR TONIGHT. 
          WE WOULD MAKE THAT REQUEST. THANK YOU MA'AM. THANK YOU,
THANK YOU. 
          SO WE ARE NOW ON SO ITEM FOUR IS ALSO REMOVED. 
          WE'RE NOW ON ITEM. ARE WE GOING TO ITEM FIVE. 
          NO BECAUSE WE FIVE THEY'RE ALL OKAY. SO WE'RE GOING TO CONSENT AGENDA. 
          ITEM NUMBER FIVE I BELIEVE. YES. DEPUTY MAYOR. 
          YEAH. MAYOR WARD OF THE PROPOSAL FOR THE REAL ESTATE BROKERAGE SERVICES. JUST LIKE TO HEAR
FROM THE CITY MANAGER. 
          I GUESS I GUESS I WAS, I WAS WANTING TO HEAR FROM THE CITY MANAGER ON,
ON, YOU KNOW WHO THIS COMPANY IS. 
          I KNOW PROCUREMENT, PROCUREMENT FOUND THEM THROUGH THE PROCESS,
BUT I WAS, I WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO ASK IF IT WAS EVEN FEASIBLE OR POSSIBLE TO AWARD THIS TO TWO LOCAL. WE HAVE A LOT OF LAND THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING ON THE MARKET. 
          AND YOU KNOW, IF WE HAD TWO, TWO GROUPS SIGNED UP,
IF ONE WASN'T PERFORMING, WE'D ALREADY HAVE THE SECOND ONE TEED UP READY TO GO. 
          THAT COULD COME IN AND ABSORB THE OTHER LISTINGS. 
          AND THEN SECONDLY, I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHAT, WHAT IS THE END RESULT THAT WE PLAN ON DOING
WITH THE THE INCOME FROM THE SALE OF THE PROPERTY? DO WE HAVE A PLAN FOR IT? OKAY. MR. MORTON. I CAN'T ANSWER THE SPLIT AWARD. I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A PROCUREMENT ENTITY. ATTORNEY QUESTION IN TERMS OF WHO
THE RESPONSIVE REAL ESTATE GROUP SELECTED BY PROCUREMENT AND THE REVIEW TEAM, THEY'RE KNOWN AS THE URBAN GROUP. 
          THEY BRING OVER 41 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE TO THIS ARENA. 
          THEY HAVE A LOCAL PARTNER JUST CALLED JUNE LLC. 
          SO THEY'RE ESTABLISHING, I GUESS, PARTNERING WITH THE BREVARD COUNTY IN TERMS OF THEIR
EXPERIENCE. 
          THEY SUBMITTED A 40 SOME ODD PAGE, YOU KNOW,
REPLY. 
          THEY BRING A GREAT DEPTH AND MUNICIPAL REAL ESTATE SERVICES,
WHICH I GUESS IS, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE TREND OF WHAT WE WERE ASKING INCLUDED WITH MANATEE 
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COUNTY. THE CITY OF BRADENTON, CITRUS COUNTY AND THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. 
          I THINK THEIR RESPONSE IS INCREDIBLY RESPONSIVE AND PROVIDES GREAT DEPTH AND DETAIL. 
          I THINK THAT THEIR COMMISSION STRUCTURE WAS ALSO HIGHLY COMPETITIVE GIVEN THE CONTEXT OF
THE SUBMITTALS. 
          SO, SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, FROM A HIGH LEVEL THAT THAT IS THAT IN TERMS OF WHAT IS
HAPPENING WITH REAL ESTATE REVENUE. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S A LONG PROCESS NOW THAT WE,
ONCE WE SELECT THE CITY'S REAL ESTATE AGENT FOR BOTH PROCUREMENT AND DISPOSITION. 
          I THINK THE CITY'S HAD SOME COLLOQUIAL, MAYBE IT'S EVEN AN ESTABLISHED POLICY THAT REAL
ESTATE PROCEEDS ARE GOING TOWARDS ROAD FUNDING. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO BRING THAT DISCUSSION FORWARD WITH TWO COUNCIL AND AT SOME POINT,
AND SEE IF THAT IS STILL THE DESIRED OUTCOME. 
          IT WOULD BE MY DESIRE TO BRING FORTH A THE CONVERSATION RESPECTS TO POTENTIALLY SPLITTING
THAT BETWEEN REAL ESTATE AND PUBLIC SAFETY CAPITAL FACILITIES. 
          SAVINGS. WE NEED MONEY FOR FIRE STATIONS AND A POLICE STATION. 
          LOVE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION EVENTUALLY. THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT. AND
AGAIN, I'LL HAVE TO DEFER THE MULTIPLE AWARD QUESTION TO PROCUREMENT AND OR LEGAL. 
          THANK YOU, MR. KHANJAR. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. 
          NICK CARTER ACTING CHIEF PROCUREMENT OFFICER RIGHT IN THE SCOPE OF SERVICES,
IT DOES SAY THE CITY HAS THE RIGHT TO AWARD TO MULTIPLE BROKERS. 
          IF MULTIPLE BROKERS ARE AWARDED, PROPERTIES WILL BE DISTRIBUTED BY CITY STAFF BASED ON THE
BROKER QUALIFICATIONS. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? I HAVE TO TELL YOU, THE URBAN GROUP, IF YOU LOOK AT THEIR QUALIFICATIONS,
I THINK THEY WERE THE MOST THOROUGH OF THEM ALL. 
          AND, AND I WAS QUITE FRANKLY, I WAS IMPRESSED WITH THAT DETAIL OF INFORMATION. 
          I DON'T THINK WE'VE EVER HAD A CANDIDATE SUBMIT SOMETHING LIKE THAT AS,
AS WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH TRYING TO SELL SOME PROPERTIES BEFORE. 
          RIGHT. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON AND I, I LOOK AT YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE THE SENIOR MOST COUNCIL
MEMBER. 
          AND MY, SINCE I'VE BEEN ON HERE, I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYONE SO THOROUGH. 
          YES, SIR. WITH THEIR BID, BUT ANYWAY I'VE GOT COUNCILMAN HAMMEL THAT WANTS TO WEIGH IN AT
THIS TIME. 
          MY QUESTION WAS WHO IS OUR CURRENT PROVIDER? I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ONE CURRENTLY. THE LAST ONE WAS MEL THOMAS, CORRECT? YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO IF YOU WERE TO ADD SOMEONE ELSE TO IT DEPUTY MAYOR, WHO WHO ARE YOU LOOKING AT? YEAH, I MEAN, IT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION TO,
YOU KNOW, ALLOW THE URBAN GROUP TO, TO LIST 80% OR 90% OF THE PROPERTIES AND THEN ALLOW THE RELENTLESS REAL ESTATE GROUP TO LIST 10 OR 20%. 
          AND WHAT THAT ALLOWS IS JUST MORE EXPOSURE TO THE CITY. 
          RELENTLESS IS A TRUE LOCAL GROUP WITH A LOT OF BOOTS ON THE GROUND,
LOCAL REALTORS. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, IF THEY WERE WORKING WITH THE POTENTIAL BUYER,
YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY HAVE THEIR LISTING POOL THAT THEY CAN SHOW FROM. BUT IF, IF THOSE PROPERTIES AREN'T IDEAL, THEN THEY CAN ACTUALLY SHOW THE URBAN GROUP'S PROPERTIES
AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. 
          SO IT'S JUST CASTING A WIDER NET OF BASICALLY FREE MARKETING. 
          AND I COULD DEFINITELY SUPPORT THAT. YOU KNOW,
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 90% YOU KNOW, YEAH, I, I COULD SUPPORT THAT BECAUSE IT IS CASTING A WIDER NET. 
          SO YEAH. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY DO? MR. MORTON? YEAH. SO I WILL SAY, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE REASONS I WAS NOT ON THE REVIEW
COMMITTEE WAS I, YOU KNOW, CALLED AND SPOKE AND CAJOLED EVERY REALTOR GROUP AND OFFICE AND AGENCY IN THE
COUNTY TO GET PEOPLE TO RESPOND TO THE SUBMITTAL. 
          AND SO I DID NOT PARTICIPATE IN THE REVIEW COMMITTEE WHATSOEVER BECAUSE OF JUST ASKING
PEOPLE, ENCOURAGING PEOPLE. I DID HAVE LENGTHY CONVERSATIONS WITH RELENTLESS. AND SO MAYBE INSTEAD OF ASSIGNING A HARD AND FAST NUMBER,
IF THAT'S POSSIBLE, I THINK DEPUTY MAYOR'S FIRST POINT WAS, YOU KNOW ONE OF THE REASONS YOU DID HIRE ME IS I DID BRING SOME REAL ESTATE EXPERIENCE AND
LAND ASSEMBLAGE AND DISPOSITION IN TERMS OF DEVELOPMENT. 
          WE'VE SEEN THAT TIME AGAIN WHEN WE'RE INTERACTING WITH DEVELOPMENT PARTIES GROUPS. I THINK
WE JUST HEARD ANOTHER EXAMPLE THIS WEEK WHERE WE BROUGHT SOME STRONG KNOWLEDGE BASE TO THE TABLE. MY POINT IS IF WE CAN, YOU KNOW, SORT OF ASSIGN,
USE THEM AS THE PRIMARY, BUT ALSO ASSIGN IF WE SEE A SPECIAL PROJECT THAT WE, I DO BELIEVE, WE BELIEVE RELENTLESS. AND THEY DO HAVE SOME VERY UNIQUE SKILL SETS
APPROPRIATE TO THE COUNTY AND LOCAL, DEEP, LOCAL, LOCAL KNOWLEDGE THAT WE HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY TO GO AHEAD AND ASSIGN THOSE
ROLES BASED OFF SOME OF THOSE YOU KNOW, SPECIFIC CHARACTERISTICS, I WOULD SAY, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH COUNCIL. 
          SO JUST SO THAT I'M UNCLEAR. PRIMARY THE URBAN GROUP AND THEN RELENTLESS AS A,
AS A SPECIAL NICHE, SO TO SPEAK, THAT YOU FEEL WOULD CORRECT. AND I CAN GIVE AN EXAMPLE. 
          SO BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE A REAL ESTATE AGENT,
I WAS AUTHORIZED TO GO OUT AND WORK WITH REAL ESTATE AGENTS. IF THE TOTAL AWARD WAS LESS 
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THAN 10,000 IN TERMS OF CITY COMPENSATION. AND WE DEVELOPED TWO VERY CREATIVE STRATEGIES. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, NEITHER ONE WAS SUCCESSFUL AT THE MOMENT,
BUT IT WAS GREAT HAVING SOMEONE WHO UNDERSTOOD EVERY SINGLE LOCAL, BIG LOCAL PLAYER, UNDERSTOOD THE RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN LOCAL PLAYERS AND REALLY PUT US IN A,
IN A FANTASTIC POSITION. SO I JUST, AGAIN, I THINK THEY BRING SOME EXPERTISE THAT'S VERY UNIQUE. ONE, ONE OF THE BENEFITS IS IF EVEN IF THE CITY IS LOOKING TO PROCURE PROPERTY YOU
CAN USE A STRAW BUYER WHERE THE OFFER IS MADE UNDER ANOTHER ENTITY'S NAME WITH THE ABILITY TO ASSIGN THE CONTRACT TO THE CITY
ONCE THE CONTRACT IS WORTH MADE. 
          IF YOU WRITE A CONTRACT FROM THE CITY OF PALM BAY OR MAKE AN OFFER TO A. 
          TO LAND UNDER THE CITY OF PALM BAY. THE LAND SELLER IS ALREADY GOING TO INFLATE THE PRICE
COPY. 
          SO HAVING SOME FLEXIBILITY WITH SOME LOCAL KNOWLEDGE AND THE ABILITY TO MAKE OFFERS ON
LAND AS NEEDED FOR THE CITY UNDER THE USE OF A STRAW BUYER WITH THE ABILITY TO ASSIGN THE CONTRACT HELPS THE CITY BUY LAND AT A COMPETITIVE RATE. 
          WELL, I'M GOOD WITH THAT, SIR. I'M GOOD. COUNCILMAN HAMMER WANTS TO WEIGH IN. 
          MINE MIGHT BE MORE FOR PROCUREMENT. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT IS STOPPING SOMEBODY FROM BEING
EMPLOYED WITH BOTH URBAN AND RELENTLESS? YES. YES. BECAUSE YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SAYING IT WOULD HAPPEN,
BUT I'M SAYING IS THERE ANYTHING THAT'S SAYING, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE BASED OUT OF FORT LAUDERDALE. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT'S SAYING THAT THEY
CAN'T SUBCONTRACT ANOTHER GROUP OUT TO DO IT? I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT FOR YOU, SIR. MY INITIAL ANSWER IS THAT THAT WOULD NOT BE
ALLOWABLE, BUT I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK INTO IT TO GIVE YOU A DEFINITE ANSWER. I'VE GOT THE CITY MANAGER
WANTING TO WEIGH IN. 
          MAYBE DEPUTY MAYOR CAN ANSWER AS WELL. BUT IF I UNDERSTOOD YOUR QUESTION. COUNCILMAN
HAMMEL. 
          NO STATE LAW ACTUALLY PRECLUDES A REALTOR CAN ONLY HANG THEIR LICENSE WITH ONE BROKER,
AND A BROKER DOESN'T GO BROKE UNLESS THEY DISCLOSE THE NATURE OF A BROKER RELATIONSHIP, WHICH GENERALLY IS JUST A COMPENSATORY, NOT A PHYSICAL PROCESS. 
          SO I DON'T THINK WE'D HAVE THAT. IF I'M UNDERSTANDING YOUR QUESTION,
WE WOULDN'T HAVE THAT BEHIND THE SCENES WORK. 
          AND IT'S FOR PROTECTING BUYERS AND SELLERS AS THE REASON DBR HAS THE REAL ESTATE HAS THAT
LAW. 
          ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON. YES. MAYOR. I'M JUST A LITTLE CONFUSED LOOKING AT THE ACT
OF SUBMISSION. 
          SO WE'RE LOOKING TO GIVE THE MAJOR PORTION TO THE THE APPLICANT WHO WON THE BID AT 79.33
AND THEN ANOTHER PORTION TOWARDS THE LAST PLACE WITH 45 POINTS. WHY SKIPPING CUSHMAN AND WAKEFIELD BEING REALITY. 
          REALITY. ONE GROUP ELEVATE. LIKE I DON'T UNDERSTAND. 
          I DON'T SEE THE JUSTIFICATION BEHIND IT. DEPUTY MAYOR OR SO I'M A LICENSED REALTOR. 
          I'VE BEEN A REALTOR SINCE I WAS IN MY 20S. I KNOW ALL THESE ORGANIZATIONS. 
          AND SOME OF THEM ARE JUST WHAT WE CALL LISTING MACHINES WHERE THEY JUST WANT LISTINGS AND
THEY DON'T ACTUALLY GO OUT AND STRATEGICALLY MARKET OR DO ANYTHING FOR, FOR THE CLIENT. I'VE NEVER HEARD A BANG REALTY OR REALTY ONE AND,
AND ALSO THE, YOU KNOW, IN ALL FAIRNESS TO ALL THE GROUPS THAT SUPPLIED THIS,
THIS LIST IS COMPLETELY SUBJECTIVE BY PEOPLE WHO AREN'T IN THE INDUSTRY GRADING THESE GROUPS. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS ANYBODY ON THE,
ON THE GRADING COMMITTEE THAT WAS ACTUALLY IN REAL ESTATE OR DEVELOPMENT. 
          I THINK A LOT OF IT WAS JUST BASED ON HOW WELL THEY PUT TOGETHER THEIR SUBMITTAL. 
          YOU KNOW, IF COUNCIL'S PLEASURE ISN'T TO SPLIT THE WORK. 
          I WOULD JUST SAY STICK WITH URBAN GROUP THEN. 
          YOU KNOW, I, I SUPPORT YOUR TRAIN OF THOUGHT. 
          TO GIVE THE CITY MANAGER THAT FLEXIBILITY NEEDED ON A DIME. 
          RIGHT? AS YOU MENTIONED, YOU, YOU'VE BEEN A REALTOR,
YOU KNOW, THE INS AND OUTS. 
          YOU ALSO KNOW A LOT ABOUT THE BUILDING INDUSTRY. 
          SO WE'RE WELL ROUNDED ON THIS DAIS AND SOME OF US RELY ON,
ON DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS EXPERTISE, RIGHT? SO I'M GOING TO YIELD TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE IN THIS. 
          AND SO I'M GOOD WITH YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE URBAN GROUP AND RELENTLESS WITH THE
MAJORITY GOING TO THE URBAN GROUP. 
          ANYONE ELSE WANT TO WEIGH IN. OKAY, SO I'LL NEED A MOTION. 
          DEPUTY MAYOR. YEAH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO AWARD THE REAL ESTATE BROKERAGE SERVICES TO THE
URBAN GROUP. 
          AND AS A PRIMARY LISTING AGENT AND AT THE CITY MANAGER'S DISCRETION TO USE THE RELENTLESS
REALTY GROUP FOR SPECIALTY NICHE PROJECTS. 
          AND I'LL SECOND THAT. SO I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE,
SECONDED BY MAYOR MEDINA. 
          ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? ALL IN FAVOR,
SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. 
          AYE. ANY OPPOSED? SIGNIFY BY SAYING NAY. NAY. 
          PASSES 4 TO 1. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER 11 UNDER CONSENT. 
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MR. MAYOR. I ASKED TO PULL A CONSIDERATION OF ALLOCATING MUNICIPAL FUNDS FOR THE PURCHASE
OF THE FOUR LARGE TREES AT KEN GREEN MEMORIAL PARK. 
          NOT THAT I DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD PROJECT. I'M JUST HIGHLY DISAPPOINTED THAT A CITY THE
SIZE OF PALM BAY CAN ONLY GET ONE BID FOR A PROJECT OF THIS SCOPE. 
          I FEEL LIKE THIS NEEDS TO GO BACK OUT FOR BID OR SOME OTHER CREATIVE SOLUTIONS EVEN
FURTHER. 
          EVEN ASKING WJ CONSTRUCTION TO WRITE A QUOTE,
EVEN IF THEY'RE GOING TO SUBCONTRACT IT OUT. 
          WE HAVE A TON OF VENDORS IN THE CITY, AND I FEEL LIKE WE'RE SELLING OUR CITIZENS SHORT BY
ONLY GETTING ONE BID. 
          OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF ON THE BID PROCESS? I MEAN, I HEARD I HEARD HIS BID PROCESS EARLIER. 
          IT'S MY, IN MY OPINION THAT IT IT NEEDS TO GO BACK OUT. 
          OKAY. WHAT WAS IT? DO YOU KNOW THE DEFICIENCIES OF WHY WE ONLY RECEIVED ONE BID OR THE
CHALLENGES? I THINK IT'S DUE TO THE SIZE, YOU KNOW, THE ADVANTAGE OF PUTTING IN A LARGER TREE,
WHICH WE CAN PUT A SMALLER ENTRY AT A LOWER PRICE, BUT IT WOULD TAKE, YOU KNOW, YEARS FOR THE GROWTH. 
          THE ADVANTAGE OF PUTTING IN A LARGER TREE. THESE TREES WE HAVE HERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 16
TO 20 FOOT TALL, TEN FOOT CANOPY. THEY'RE ALREADY, YOU KNOW, FULLY,
FULLY MATURE. 
          THE AVERAGE OAK TREE GROWS 1 TO 2FT PER YEAR. 
          SO IF YOU START OFF WITH A SMALLER TREE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LONGER PROCESS TO,
TO GET THE SHADE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR. 
          AND ULTIMATELY, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IS TO SAY THE DARK PART AND PROVIDE THAT
TYPE OF SERVICE. 
          RIGHT NOW, THERE'S NOT. AND I MEAN, IT'S A GREAT DOG PARK,
HIGHLY USED, BUT RIGHT NOW THERE'S NOT NOT MUCH SHADE OUT THERE, IS THERE? IS THERE THE ABILITY FOR, FOR THE CITY JUST TO PROCURE THE,
THE TREES DIRECT FROM A NURSERY AND PUBLIC WORKS INSTALLED. 
          THAT THAT COULD BE POSSIBLE ALONG WITH HELP FROM,
FROM THE PARK'S SIDE TOO. 
          IN OTHER WORDS, AN ALTERNATIVE. IN OTHER WORDS,
THAT SAME SIZE TREE. 
          RIGHT? AND THEN WE HANDLE IT, RIGHT. YOU'RE GOING TO NEED VOLUNTEER EQUIPMENT. 
          THESE EACH OF THESE TREES WEIGH APPROXIMATELY 2,000 POUNDS. 
          SO IT'S NOT LIKE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING. YOU'RE GOING TO,
YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO, TO PLANT BY HAND. 
          YOU'RE GOING TO NEED HEAVY. YEAH. A TRACK WITH SOME STRAPS WOULD. 
          RIGHT? YEAH. CORRECT. OKAY. SO DID YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN? I, I SAW YOU GOT CLOSER AND AND YOU HANDLED THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS. 
          SO IS THERE SOME CONCERNS THAT YOU WANT US TO BE AWARE OF? KEVIN WANTS TO WIN. SAY AGAIN, KEVIN MIGHT WANT TO WIN. 
          THE ONLY THING I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST IS DUE TO THE AMOUNT IS WE COULD OFFICIALLY PUT IT
OUT AS A SOLICITATION IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE WANT TO TAKE AT 22,000. 
          IT IS UNDER THE THRESHOLD, BUT IT IS CREEPING UP TO THAT $25,000 THRESHOLD,
WHICH WOULD FORMALLY GO OUT AS A PROCESS TO OUR OFFICE. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE. CAN YOU CLARIFY THAT? DID YOU MEAN IT DID NOT GO
OUT FOR A SOLICITATION BID JUST BECAUSE OF THE PROCESS? SO BETWEEN 10 AND 25,000, THE DEPARTMENTS CAN GO OUT AND GET QUOTES,
EMAIL, OR WE ENCOURAGE THEM TO USE OUR BONFIRE PLATFORM. 
          BUT AT 25,000, IT COMES THROUGH OUR OFFICE AND WE PUT IT OUT AS OFFICIAL SOLICITATION. 
          I FEEL LIKE THAT'S THE METHOD WE SHOULD GO WITH. 
          YEAH, I'M NOT SURE, BUT I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR SINCE WE'RE
PUTTING HIS HIS DIRECTORSHIP HERE PUTTING HIM ON THE SPOT. CAN YOU DO THE NEXT SLIDE? BECAUSE IT GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF THE LOCATION AND THEN THE NEXT SLIDE,
THE SIZE, SIZE OF THE TERESE, PLEASE. OKAY, SO THEY'RE THE SIZE OF THE TREES. 
          YES, SIR. THANK YOU SIR. I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE COMPLETE AGREEMENT HERE. 
          ONE THING I DO RUN INTO WHEN WE'RE DEALING WITH TREES IS THERE'S USUALLY SOME KIND OF A
GUARANTEE OR A BOND ON THE LIVELIHOOD OF THE TREE AND THE LIKE THE FIRST YEAR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT WITH PUBLIC WORKS DOING THE INSTALLATION ON IT. I DON'T BELIEVE WE
WOULD GIVE THE SAME BOND. 
          CHRISTINE SHAKING HER HEAD. NO. SO, SO IN OTHER WORDS,
WE'RE, WE'RE WE'RE AT OUR OWN RISK IF WE ALLOW YOU TO TO PLANT IT AND IT DIES WITHIN THE YEAR. OKAY. COPY THAT. COPY THAT. COPY THAT. I MEAN,
OBVIOUSLY, IF WE WORKED WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND THEY PLANT TREES, WE'D BE RESPONSIBLE ON THE PARK SIDE,
YOU KNOW, FOR WATERING DAILY. 
          THERE'S A ROUTINE THAT YOU GO THROUGH, BUT BUT KEVIN,
YOU KNOW, ONE ADVANTAGE OF HAVING THEM INSTALLED IS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S LIKE A YEAR GUARANTEE THAT THEY'LL LIVE. 
          SO WHERE WE'RE AT OUR OWN RISK, IF WE, IF WE PLANT IT AND WE LOSE THE TREE,
THEN WE'RE OUT WHATEVER MONEY 
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WE ALREADY INVESTED. ALRIGHT. PLEASE STAND FAST BECAUSE I COUNCILMAN HAMMOND WANTS TO
WEIGH IN. 
          I THINK THERE'S ONLY ONE PERSON HERE THAT CAN BACK ME UP ON THIS. 
          IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, WE GOT AWARDED A WHOLE BUNCH OF WASHINGTONIAN PALM TREES,
AND WE THOUGHT OUR PUBLIC WORKS COULD PUT THEM ALL IN AND MAINTAIN THEM AND EVERYTHING. AND THEY LOOKED GREAT FOR THE FIRST COUPLE WEEKS. 
          I MEAN, I WOULD SAY THEY LOOKED AMAZING AND I WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT WAS RESPONSIBLE
FOR GOING OUT AND WATERING THEM. 
          SO YOU CAN BLAME ME A LITTLE BIT, BUT THERE'S NO GUARANTEE ON THOSE TREES. 
          AND WITH US COMING THROUGH A COMPANY, I CAN UNDERSTAND HAVING THOSE TREES GUARANTEED,
ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE PAYING SO MUCH FOR THEM. 
          I'M NOT SAYING OUR PUBLIC WORKS DOESN'T DO AN AMAZING JOB. 
          I THOUGHT IT WAS PRETTY GOOD AT WHAT I DO. I CAN HOLD A WATER HOSE,
BUT WE PROPPED THEM UP. 
          WE DID EVERYTHING AS WE SHOULD, AND WE HAVE NO CLUE WHERE THE TREES WERE COMING FROM AND
HOW THEY WERE MOVED AND EVERYTHING ELSE WHERE A LOT OF WHY WE'RE PAYING, HOW MUCH WE ARE FOR THESE TREES IS WE'RE PAYING FOR THAT
GUARANTEE THAT THOSE TREES ARE GOING TO LAST. 
          SECONDLY, MY QUESTION WAS, DO THEY HAVE TO TAKE DOWN THE FENCE AND EVERYTHING ELSE TO GET
INTO THESE. 
          ACCESS TO THESE AREAS AND DO WE TAKE THE FENCE DOWN AND. 
          OR DO THEY AND DO THEY PUT IT BACK UP? YES. THEY HAVE BETTER EQUIPMENT TO USE AND MY STAFF
WOULD TAKE THE FENCE DOWN. 
          OKAY. SO OTHER THAN OUR 22,000, WE HAVE MAN HOURS IN ASSISTING THEM WITH THIS AS WELL,
CORRECT? YES. IS THAT PART OF THE 22,000 OR NO. NO, SIR. 
          OKAY. OTHER THAN THAT, I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, I,
I'M, I'M I'M JUST TRYING TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT WE HAVE TRIED IT AND SOME OF THEM LIVED. 
          I MEAN, THERE'S ABOUT 3 OR 4 THAT ARE STILL KICKING,
BUT I WANT TO SAY WE DID 118. 
          SO. AND OUR MEDIANS LOOKED GREAT FOR A WHILE THOUGH I WILL SAY THAT. 
          NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR MEMORY LANE COUNCILMAN HAMMER. 
          APPRECIATE IT. ALRIGHT, WELL, DEPUTY MAYOR. YEAH. 
          I MEAN, JUST FOR, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, JUST FOR,
YOU KNOW, FOR $3,000 AWAY FROM OR $2,000 AWAY FROM TRIGGERING A NORMAL SOLICITATION PROCESS. I FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD JUST HAVE A PROCEDURE IN PLACE. 
          IF ANY DEPARTMENT COMES BACK WITH US WITH ONLY ONE PROPOSAL,
IT SHOULD AUTOMATICALLY JUST TRIGGER A BID SOLICITATION PROCESS. 
          OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO WE COULD DO THAT IN THE FUTURE. 
          AND IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, YEAH, I MAKE A MOTION THAT THIS GOES OUT FOR THE
SOLICITATION PROCESS SECOND OF 25,000 OR TO HIT THAT THRESHOLD. WELL, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO HIT THAT THRESHOLD IN THIS INSTANCE. 
          I'M JUST MAKING THAT MOTION. OKAY. AND I HEARD A SECOND. 
          WHO WAS IT? YOU COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. OKAY, SO I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE,
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. 
          ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSE,
SIGNIFY BY SAYING NAY. 
          PASSES FIVE ZERO. WE ARE NOW ON. NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER ONE. 
          MADAM SMITH. 
          NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER ONE. ARE WE. IS THERE A SECOND PROCUREMENT NUMBER TWO. 
          AS YOU WERE. WE'RE ON I I'M I'M JUMPING. WE'RE ON PROCUREMENT NUMBER TWO. 
          O COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN. OH, THAT WAS FOR THE LAST ITEM. 
          WELL, THEY JUST ALL CAME IN. OH, IT JUST CAME IN. 
          I WAS WONDERING, BUT BUT ACTUALLY WHAT I WAS ABOUT TO SAY. 
          THEN YOU WENT TO THE DEPUTY MAYOR AND HE SAID. EXACTLY. 
          PRETTY MUCH WHAT I WAS ABOUT TO SAY, SO I JUST IGNORED IT. 
          COPY THAT SIR. SORRY ABOUT THAT. NOW THEY'RE COMING IN. 
          ALRIGHT, SO WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER TWO. MR. 
          [PROCUREMENTS:]
MORTON PROCUREMENT. THANK YOU. MAYOR CITY COUNCIL,
THIS IS A MISCELLANEOUS COOPERATIVE PURCHASE FOR A JOHN DEERE SIX M TRACTOR. 
          PUBLIC WORKS WAS APPROVED IN THE FISCAL YEAR 2026 BUDGET FOR $292,777,
TO REPLACE ASSET NUMBER 6842 WITH A LIKE TRACTOR. BECAUSE THE TOTAL IS OVER $100,000,
IT HAS TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL. 
          IT DID COME IN $26,000.49 UNDER THE ORIGINAL ESTIMATE. 
          SO THE ONLY REASON AGAIN, WE'RE BACK FOR AN APPROVED ITEM IS BECAUSE IT EXCEEDS THAT
$100,000 THRESHOLD. 
          WE'RE ASKING FOR PERMISSION TO GO AHEAD AND REPLACE THIS ASSET. 
          THANK YOU SIR. DEPUTY MAYOR. SPEAKER CARDS. NO. 
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MAYOR. I NEED A MOTION. MOTION TO APPROVE THE JOHN DEERE SIX M TRACTOR PURCHASE. 
          SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE,
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. 
          ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. 
          WE'RE NOW WE'RE NOW ON NEW BUSINESS. ITEM NUMBER ONE. 
          MAY I HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING THESE NEXT THREE FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY? CAN THESE BE DONE THROUGH A RESOLUTION? MADAM ATTORNEY,
NOT AT THIS TIME, BECAUSE YOU HAVE IT BY ORDINANCE. 
          YOU CAN'T REPEAL AN ORDINANCE BY RESOLUTION. YOU COULD JUST REPEAL ALL OF THESE PROVISIONS
FROM THE CODE OF ORDINANCES AND INSTEAD HAVE THAT THESE POSITIONS,
THE DEPARTMENTS WOULD BE PASSED BY RESOLUTION. 
          BUT YOU WOULD YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN ORDINANCE TO REPEAL THE ORDINANCE. 
          THANK YOU. OKAY. SO WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER ONE. 
          NEW BUSINESS, MADAM SMITH MAYOR ORDINANCE 2020 5-06,
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES. 
          TITLE THREE ADMINISTRATION. CHAPTER 31 CITY DEPARTMENTS. 
          SUBCHAPTER ADMINISTRATIVE DEPARTMENTS BY MODIFYING DEPARTMENTS WHICH REPORT TO THE CITY
MANAGER. 
          PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT. 
          HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY. 
          CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. 
          THANK YOU MA'AM. MR. MORTON, THANK YOU, HONORABLE MAYOR,
CITY COUNCIL. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE POINT DEPUTY MAYOR WAS MAKING,
BUT I WILL SAY THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IN MY ALMOST 28 YEARS NOW THAT I'VE NOT BEEN FREE TO ORGANIZE OR REORGANIZE THE DEPARTMENTS OF A CITY FOR THE BEST INTEREST OF WHAT I SEE AS A
CITY MANAGER. 
          SO PALM BAY DOES HAVE SOME UNIQUE ENTAILMENTS. 
          SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT. I HAVE TO GET PERMISSION TO REORGANIZE DEPARTMENTS AND
REORGANIZE EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY. 
          SO THE FIRST ONE IS THIS READING AND IT'S GOING TO COME IN THREE SORT OF DIFFERENT PARTS. 
          AS WAS NOTED, THIS FIRST STEP IS THE I'M JUST GOING TO KIND OF TALK PHILOSOPHICALLY HERE
INSTEAD OF READING THIS WORD FOR WORD, WE'RE TRYING TO SEPARATE THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT OUT FROM GROWTH AND MAKE ITS
FUNCTIONS SPECIFIC TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WITHOUT HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT SHIP AND HOUSING AND CDBG AND ALL THESE OTHER THINGS THAT I THINK DISTRACT FROM WHAT WE ARE ASKING
AND WANTING IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROFESSIONAL TO PERFORM. 
          AND IN FACT, WE DID GET SOME PUSHBACK FROM SOME HIGHLY QUALIFIED CANDIDATES. 
          I SAID, WELL, I HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO MANAGE CDBG PROGRAMS AND SHIP. 
          AND WE SEE THE HARD WORK THAT MISS DENISE CARTER DOES. 
          IT IS A SPECIALTY ITEM. AND SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT MERGER,
YOU KNOW, ORIGINALLY CAME FORWARD. 
          SO THIS FIRST ORDINANCE 2020 606, WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE LOOKING TO AMEND TITLE THREE
ADMINISTRATION CHAPTER 31 SPECIFICALLY TO CREATE UNDER ITEM H THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. 
          SO IN ESSENCE, WE'RE GOING TO CREATE A STANDALONE DEPARTMENT NOW IN THE CODE OF
ORDINANCES, WHICH WE'RE GOING TO DO AGAIN IN ANOTHER CHAPTER AT THE END. SO THAT IS THE ACTUAL REQUEST
HERE TONIGHT. 
          THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR OR ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL. 
          DEPUTY MAYOR. NO CARDS. MAYOR. OKAY, SO I NEED A MOTION,
GENTLEMEN. 
          MOTIONS APPROVED 2020 606. SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR OR DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE. 
          SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. ALL IN FAVOR,
SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. 
          AYE. PASSES FIVE ZERO. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER TWO,
MADAM SMITH. 
          ORDINANCE 2020 6-07, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY,
BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA. 
          AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES. TITLE THREE,
ADMINISTRATION. 
          CHAPTER 37 GROWTH MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT BY MODIFYING THE DEPARTMENT'S COMPOSITION AND
DIVISIONS, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT. HEREWITH
PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY. 
          CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. 
          THANK YOU MA'AM. THANK YOU AGAIN, HONORABLE MAYOR,
CITY COUNCIL, THIS IS THE SECOND STEP IN. 
          BY ORDINANCE. WE HAVE TO NOW REMOVE THE FUNCTIONS THAT TRADITIONALLY ARE VESTED UNDER
TITLE THREE ADMINISTRATION. 
          CHAPTER 39 FROM GROWTH, EXCUSE ME, FROM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND REPLACE THOSE BACK IN
GROWTH. 
          SO WE CLARIFIED THE LANGUAGE IN 3703 A1B1. AND NOW ADDING C ONE WHICH IS PUTTING HOUSING
AND COMMUNITY IMPROVEMENT DIVISION AGAIN WHICH IS THOSE SERVICES. WE TALKED ABOUT HOUSING GRANT PROGRAMS AND SUPPORT
SERVICES, LOW TO MODERATE INCOME, RESIDENT AFFORDABLE HOUSING SOLUTIONS,
OUR FAIR HOUSING PROGRAM, PUBLIC SERVICES AGAIN, ALL THAT SHIP SAIL CDBG AND SIMILAR. AND THAT WILL NOW BE PLACED IN WITH THE GROWTH
DEPARTMENT MANAGED UNDER CURRENTLY UNDER ALTHEA JEFFERSON AND IN PARTNERSHIP WITH DENISE CARTER AND HER TEAM AND SHIP BEING S H I P PAPA. 
          YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT CAME OUT DIFFERENT. 
          IT'S SHIP. YEAH. WELL AND JUST WANTED TO CLEAR JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT SIR. 
          [03:05:07]
DEPUTY MAYOR. SPEAKER CARDS. NO SPEAKER CARDS. 
          JUST. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY AND MAYBE THE CITY MANAGER. 
          IF BY AMENDING THIS ORDINANCE TONIGHT, COULD WE FURTHER AMEND IT BY ELIMINATING THE SHIP
AND SAIL PROGRAM? OR CAN WE HAVE THAT AT A FUTURE COUNCIL DISCUSSION? THIS ORDINANCE. THIS IS JUST DEPARTMENT'S COMPOSITION. 
          OKAY. SO BUT WE CAN DISCUSS LATER AT A FUTURE MEETING. 
          ELIMINATING THE SHIP AND SAIL. OKAY. I NEED A MOTION. 
          MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND 2607. GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE,
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. 
          ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. PASSES FIVE ZERO. 
          WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER THREE, MISS SMITH, ORDINANCE 2020 6-08,
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA. AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES. 
          TITLE THREE ADMINISTRATION. CHAPTER 39 COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BY RENAMING THE
DEPARTMENT TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND MODIFYING PROVISIONS CONTAINED THEREIN, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT
HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY. 
          CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. 
          MR. MORTON, THANK YOU AGAIN ALL MAYOR CITY COUNCIL. 
          AS NOTED, AMENDING TITLE THREE ADMINISTRATION CHAPTER 39 IN THE TITLE. 
          IT WILL REMOVE COMMUNITY AND FROM THE WORDS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THEN IN THE
RESPONSIBILITIES ON THE SECOND PAGE UNDER SECTION WHAT USED TO BE B ONE WE'RE WE'RE USING WE'RE REMOVING HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FROM THE ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM FUNCTION. 
          AND AS YOU MAY ALREADY KNOW, WE HAD CEASED ISSUING PASSPORTS. 
          SO THAT IS STRICKEN FROM SECTION B, AND THAT WILL COMPLETE THESE THREE MOVES TO SEPARATE
THE HOUSING CDBG SHIP AND SAIL PROGRAMS AND FOCUS MAINLY ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND BTR AS A STANDALONE NEW FUNCTION. 
          THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL. OKAY. ANY SPEAKER CARDS? MAYOR, I NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN. 
          SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON. ALL IN FAVOR,
SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. 
          AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES FIVE ZERO. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR,
MR. MORTON. THANK YOU, HONORABLE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL. 
          WHAT WE'RE ASKING TONIGHT IS CONSIDERATION OF ENTERING INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE FLORIDA
SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT CENTER, ALSO KNOWN AS SBDC, THROUGH THE UNIVERSITY OF CENTRAL FLORIDA. 
          UCF FOR ON SITE SMALL BUSINESS SUPPORT, SERVICE MANAGEMENT AND TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE
SERVICES. 
          THE IDEA IS WE DON'T HAVE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR YET,
BUT THAT, AS YOU KNOW, HAS NOT STOPPED STAFF FROM CONTINUING TO TRY TO FILL THAT ROLE AND MOVE THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CLIMATE FORWARD,
AS I BELIEVE IT WAS ONE OF THE TASKS GIVEN TO ME WHEN I STARTED HERE ALMOST A YEAR AGO. 
          AND IN THAT LIGHT, WHAT WE REALLY HAVE NOTICED WE'RE MISSING IS A SMALL BUSINESS
DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE CENTER, A TRUE NEXUS, AN ECOSYSTEM FOR BUSINESSES TO HAVE A RESOURCE HERE. 
          SBDC IS REALLY GREAT AT PROVIDING PROFESSIONAL,
HIGH QUALITY INDIVIDUAL BUSINESS SERVICES THAT ADVISE GIVE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE TO EXISTING AND PRE VENTURE ENTERPRISES. THEY OFFER A SUITE OF SERVICES AIMED AT NURTURING
SMALL BUSINESSES TO HELP THEM THRIVE, INCLUDING BUSINESS CONSULTING, BUSINESS TRAINING,
ACCESS TO CAPITAL MARKET RESEARCH ANALYSIS, EXPORT ASSISTANCE, TECHNOLOGY COMMERCIALIZATION,
STRATEGIC PLANNING, DISASTER RECOVERY ASSISTANCE, AND, OF COURSE, THAT NETWORKING AND PARTNERSHIPS,
WHAT WE CALL BUILDING THAT ENTREPRENEURIAL ECOSYSTEM IN PALM BAY AND OTHER SPECIALIZED SERVICES. IRONICALLY ENOUGH, EVEN THOUGH PALM BAY IS THE POPULATION,
I THINK ONE OF THE BUSINESS CENTERS OF BREVARD COUNTY, THE CLOSEST ASSISTANCE CENTER, IS MORE THAN 30 MILES AWAY UP IN COCOA. 
          AND SO WE BELIEVE THIS IS AN INVESTMENT IN OUR INFRASTRUCTURE FOR ECONOMIC STABILITY AND
GROWING THAT EXUBERANT TAX BASE BY EMBEDDING PROFESSIONAL CONSULTING SERVICES AT CITY HALL. IT'S REALLY A STEP ONE, RIGHT? THIS IS THE VISION THAT THAT WE'RE HAVING HERE,
AND I THINK I'VE SHARED IT WITH COUNCIL IS GET THE SBDC, BRING IN SCORE, WHICH IS THAT RETIRED ASSOCIATION OF BUSINESS EXECUTIVES TO DO COUNSELING
AND MENTORING TO BRING IN CHAMBERS INTO THIS AUSPICES AS WELL, AND CREATE SORT OF WHAT KISSIMMEE HAS IS THAT INNOVATION AND BUSINESS EXCELLENCE CENTER TO
WHERE WE ARE THE ONLY PLACE ANYONE WOULD WANT TO COME TO GET BUSINESS ASSISTANCE, DEVICE ASSISTANCE DEVELOPMENT. NOW, THAT BEING SAID,
WE'RE GOING THROUGH A HUGE EFFORT. 
          SO YEAH, I'M CONSIDERING OR ASKING TO BE CONSIDERED AS AN INVESTMENT BECAUSE IT IS AN
ECONOMIC SPEND. 
          BUT WHAT WE ARE DOING IS REMOVING GEOGRAPHIC BARRIERS FOR OUR BUSINESS OWNERS WHO
HONESTLY, WE SEE THAT NOW IN OUR PROCUREMENT. THEY LACK THE TIME. SOMETIMES THEY GO SPEND HALF A DAY
DRIVING SOMEWHERE AND THEY DON'T HAVE A NEXUS ONE STOP SHOP FOR ALL THOSE BUSINESS 
          [03:10:07]
DEVELOPMENT RESOURCES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO CULTIVATE HERE. AND IT GIVES US AN IMMEDIATE,
I THINK, CREDIBILITY AND RESPONSE CAPACITY. SO IN TERMS OF THE DOLLARS WE'RE LOOKING AT USING
EXISTING FUNDING ALLOCATION THAT EXISTS IN THIS YEAR'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BUDGET TO THE TUNE OF $37,500. THAT GETS US THROUGH THE FIRST SIX MONTHS. 
          FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, YOU WOULD SEE A REQUEST COME BACK FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2027
BUDGET WOULD FUND THE AGREEMENT FOR A FURTHER 12 MONTHS AT A FIXED COST OF $75,000. 
          WE DID HAVE MISS EUNICE CHOI HERE, WHO HAS BEEN A REPRESENTATIVE OF THIS PROGRAM FOR A
VERY LONG TIME. 
          I'VE WORKED WITH HER IN THE PAST. SHE DID HAVE TO GO TO ANOTHER COMMITMENT AS AS THE HOURS
WORN ON. 
          BUT I WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS TONIGHT TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY. 
          OKAY. COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS? MAYOR. YES. MAYOR. 
          MATT. IF AT A FUTURE COUNCIL MEETING, IF WE DECIDE TO ELIMINATE THE SHIP AND SAIL PROGRAM, WOULD THOSE FUNDS BE AVAILABLE TO FUND THIS PROGRAM? SO GRANT AND PROGRAM FUNDS? MAYBE. I'M NOT SURE. 
          YOU KNOW, CDBG CONTINUES TO EVOLVE, IF THAT'S THE QUESTION YOU'RE ASKING IN TERMS OF
RESOURCES FROM STAFF COSTS, FROM GENERAL FUND ALLOCATIONS. TO PUT BACK INTO THIS,
THE ANSWER IS YES. 
          OKAY. AND THEN IS THERE A WAY TO EXPAND ON THIS ON A MORE GLOBAL SCALE,
LIKE PARTNERING WITH L3, HARRIS OR SOME OF THESE LARGER CORPORATIONS TO TO ACTUALLY HAVE THEM CONTRIBUTE TO OUR,
TO THIS INCUBATOR OR TO THIS SE SBDC. YEAH, THAT IS THE HOPE. SO YEARS AGO, I ATTENDED THE MARION EWING KAUFFMAN
FOUNDATION IN KANSAS CITY. 
          AND THE REAL FOCUS IS WHAT WE CALL ENTREPRENEURIAL ECOSYSTEMS. AND WHILE THE CITY DOESN'T ENGAGE IN BUSINESS IN THAT SENSE,
WE DO CONTROL THE REGULATORY ENVIRONMENT AND CAN HAVE A HANDLE, IN MY OPINION, IN CREATING THOSE RELATIONSHIPS,
WHAT WE CALL ON RAMPS AND OFF RAMPS TO INTRODUCE BUSINESSES TO AND VENTURE CAPITALISTS, NEW STARTUP BUSINESSES TO EXISTING BUSINESSES IN THE COMMUNITY,
WHETHER THEY BE SMALL OR LARGE. 
          AND THAT IS ONE OF THOSE VISIONS THAT WE DO HAVE IN THIS IN THIS IS,
IS BRINGING IN SOMEONE. 
          AND IN THAT INITIAL ADVERTISEMENT FOR AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR,
WE ASKED SOMEONE WE SOUGHT SOMEONE WHO HAS THAT DEVELOPMENT OF WHAT WE CALL THE ENTREPRENEURIAL ECOSYSTEMS TO REALLY BRING TO YOUR POINT THAT WE'RE HAVING BUSINESS
SPONSORSHIP, MENTORSHIP, PARTICIPATION. AND I DO BELIEVE THIS IS THAT FIRST BABY STEP THAT WE'RE TRYING
TO PUT TOGETHER IN THE NEXT YEAR FOR THAT. 
          AND WHERE WOULD THE OFFICE BE HOUSED? SO CURRENTLY,
WE ARE GOING TO REUSE THE UTILITY'S CUSTOMER SERVICE OFFICE ON THE FIRST FLOOR OF CITY HALL. THERE ARE LONGER ONGOING CONVERSATIONS OF OTHER EXISTING CITY FACILITIES,
BUT I THINK FOR THE FIRST 12 MONTHS, THAT IS LOCATION THAT IS THE MOST MINIMAL COST TO REHAB AND,
AND SET HAS CONFERENCE ROOMS, HAS EXISTING HARDWIRED INFRASTRUCTURE WHILE WE ASSEMBLE ALL OF THE DIFFERENT GROUPS WE'RE
HOPING TO ATTRACT AND WILL ATTRACT, AND THEN FIGURE OUT WHAT ALL THE SPACE ALLOCATION,
TECHNOLOGY AND RESOURCE NEEDS WILL BE TO MAKE THIS FUNCTIONAL. 
          THANK YOU. OKAY, GUYS. NO SPEAKER CARDS, NO MAYOR. 
          I NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON,
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN HAMMER. 
          ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? JUST. THANK YOU. 
          ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. PASSES FIVE ZERO. 
          [COMMITTEE AND COUNCIL REPORTS:]
WE'RE NOW ON REPORTS. COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN. NOPE. 
          HAVE A GREAT NIGHT, COUNCILMAN HAMMER. YES. DO WE NEED TO GIVE. 
          DOES COUNCIL NEED TO GIVE A THUMBS UP FOR STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD ON? IF THERE'S ONLY ONE BID, WE SEND IT BACK OUT. 
          I DIDN'T I KNOW WE DISCUSSED IT. IS THAT SOMETHING WE NEED TO GIVE A CONSENSUS TO STAFF
FOR, OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE JUST GOING TO DO? I FEEL WE GOT THE APPROPRIATE COURSE OF ACTION TO GO AHEAD AND DO A SOLICITATION THROUGH
PROCUREMENT AND ATTRACT ADDITIONAL VENDORS. 
          YES, SIR. I THINK COUNCILMAN HAMMEL JUST MEANS OUR GENERAL POLICIES AND PROCEDURES MOVING
FORWARD. I THINK WE WILL BRING A WRITTEN POLICY BACK SO THERE IS NO CONFUSION. 
          I'M SORRY, I MISUNDERSTOOD. YES, I THINK THAT WAS WELL TAKEN AND WE WILL MAKE SURE WE
REVISE AS APPROPRIATE THAT THAT WILL BE THE NEW STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE MOVING FORWARD. SOUNDS GREAT. THANK YOU. MY SECOND THING IS THIS IS OUR VERY LAST COUNCIL MEETING
WITHOUT MARIO AS OUR CHIEF. 
          AND I KNOW HE'S NOT HERE, BUT I HOPE HE'S WATCHING. 
          HE'S AN AMAZING MAN AND I'M DEFINITELY GOING TO MISS HIM. 
          I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT, WHAT SOON TO BE CHIEF SPEARS CAN DO. 
          BUT I DO WANT TO GIVE MY RESPECT TO MARIO. HE IS A GREAT MAN. 
          I'VE KNOWN HIM PROBABLY 20 YEARS. I'VE BEEN ABLE TO WORK NEXT TO HIM AT FLEET. 
          AND I MEAN, THE MAN THAT WE'RE LOSING IS, IS,
IS A BIG LOSS FOR PALM BAY, EVEN THOUGH HE'S GOING TO RETIRE. 
          [03:15:02]
I KNOW IT'S TIME FOR THAT, BUT I JUST WANT TO GIVE MY RESPECT TO HIM AND HE IS HE IS GOING
TO BE MISSED BY ME. 
          MY LAST THING IS I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC IS KEEPING THEIR EYES OUT FOR KIDS. 
          I KNOW THE E-BIKES ARE COMING OUT AND I KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME LEGISLATION COMING
FORWARD, BUT JUST IN THE MORNINGS, IN THE AFTERNOONS,
HECK ALL DAY. 
          KEEP YOUR EYES OUT FOR KIDS. THEY'RE OUT THERE. 
          THEY'RE TINY. THEY MIGHT NOT UNDERSTAND THE ROADS THE WAY THAT WE DO. 
          AND THEY MIGHT BUST OUT IN TRAFFIC WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING. 
          LOOK BOTH WAYS. AND THEY MIGHT EVEN JUST BE FOLLOWING THE,
YOU KNOW, THE RULES OF THE ROAD AND, YOU KNOW, I KNOW ACCIDENTS HAPPEN, BUT IF WE CAN PREVENT THEM,
THAT WOULD BE AMAZING. 
          AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN. I APPRECIATE YOU SAYING THAT. I GREW UP
PROBABLY LIKE YOURSELF RIDING, RIDING MY BIKE ALL THROUGHOUT THE STREETS OF PALM BAY. 
          AND IT'S DEFINITELY MUCH MORE DIFFERENT. ONE THING WE PROBABLY SHOULD LOOK AT IS OUR
ORDINANCES, BECAUSE I BELIEVE SOME OF THEM ARE OUTDATED,
WHERE TECHNICALLY YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE A BICYCLE ON THE SIDEWALK. 
          I BELIEVE IF I'M. YEAH, I SAW SOMEBODY LOOK UP AT ME. 
          IF I WAS PRETTY SURE THAT WAS THE CASE. BUT ONE THING I THINK WE CAN LOOK AT. 
          I'M NOT LOOKING FOR CONSENSUS, BUT I WOULD LIKE FOR STAFF TO LOOK AT CITIES LIKE WEST
MELBOURNE, WHAT THEY DID ON 192 WITH THAT FULL ON BIKE LANE FROM GETTING OFF 95 ALL THE WAY TO
DOWNTOWN. 
          IT WAS AFTER THAT WAS F DOT F DOT. YEAH. SEE,
THEY CALLED A TRAFFIC CALMING DEVICE. 
          YEAH. WELL, WE, WE DEFINITELY NEED TO CALM THINGS DOWN TOO. 
          SO, BUT BUT ASIDE FROM THAT, I TALKED TO A RESIDENT BEFORE WALKING IN HERE AND I'VE TALKED
TO A FEW OTHER RESIDENTS, BUT WE ALSO, I WOULD LIKE FOR US, ESPECIALLY THE TPO TO BE OPEN MINDED IN REGARDS TO
PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION AND SEEING HOW WE CAN IMPROVE AND WHAT WE CAN DO WORKING WITH SCAT OR WHOEVER ELSE TO MAKE THINGS MOVE EASIER AND MORE EFFICIENT BECAUSE THAT
FREES, THAT FREES UP A LOT OF CARS TO THE POINT OF WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT PUBLIC SCHOOLS VERSUS
CHARTER SCHOOLS, CHARTER SCHOOLS, THE PARENTS ARE BUSTING THEIR NOT BUSTING,
THEY'RE DRIVING THEIR KIDS. 
          SO THAT'S A LOT MORE CARS. PUBLIC SCHOOLS IS A BUS WITH 20 KIDS. 
          SO IT'S A LOT LESS VEHICLES. SO IF YOU CAN TRANSPORT MORE PEOPLE AND LESS VEHICLES,
THAT FREES UP THE ROADWAYS SIGNIFICANTLY AS WELL. 
          SO JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT MOVING FORWARD. 
          BUT THAT'S ALL I GOT. MAYOR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU,
DEPUTY MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR. JUST TO GET CONSENSUS, I MENTIONED IT TWICE EARLIER. 
          BUT WOULD COUNCIL BE AMENABLE TO HAVING A DISCUSSION? REGARDING THE SHIP AND SAIL PROGRAM, IT'S IT'S ACTUALLY A NET LOSS FOR THE CITY AND A HUGE
STAFF BURDEN TO PROCESS, ESPECIALLY DENIALS. WE'VE HAD PEOPLE THREATEN TO SUE OVER DENIAL BECAUSE THEIR APPLICATION
WASN'T COMPLETE AND SPENT HOURS AND HOURS TRYING TO WALK THEM THROUGH AN APPLICATION, AND THEY STILL WON'T FILL IT OUT AND ARE THREATENING A LAWSUIT. 
          SO I JUST I DON'T SEE THE BENEFIT IN PROVIDING THE PROGRAM AND LIKE COUNCIL CONSENSUS TO
BRING IT BACK FOR, FOR A VOTE. YEAH, I THINK YOU KNOW WHERE I'M AT. 
          SO WE GOT THREE MAYOR. YEAH, I THINK WE HAVE THREE. 
          YEAH, YEAH. THREE. YEAH. THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT. 
          OKAY, SO AGAIN GUYS. ERIC STEIN, CITIZENS ACCOUNTABILITY TASK FORCE. 
          I KNOW THAT I MENTIONED IT A WHILE AGO, BUT SOMEHOW I MENTIONED IT PREMATURELY,
I GUESS. 
          SO THEN MOST OF YOU KNOW A GENTLEMAN BY THE NAME OF DANA VALENTINO,
RIGHT? AND SO DANA OVERSEES THE KID FIRST. 501C3 NONPROFIT THAT ASSISTS KIDS IN, IN OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES AND SUCH. SO HE'S ASKED FOR A LETTER OF SUPPORT. 
          AND I JUST WANT TO SEE GET CONSENSUS FROM EVERYONE ON THE DAIS BEFORE I SEND THE LETTER
OUT. 
          SO I'M, I'M ASKING FOR CONSENSUS ON, ON THAT LETTER. 
          IF, IF YOU GUYS WOULDN'T MIND ME SUPPORTING HIS 5O1C3. 
          HE DOES A LOT FOR OUR COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY WITH THE 5O1C3. 
          AND IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY HE ACTUALLY HAS A PROGRAM WHERE HE TEACHES KIDS HOW TO WORK ON
HUMVEES. 
          HE TEACHES. HE TEACHES A LOT. A LOT OF THINGS FOR THE CITY. 
          WHENEVER WE HAVE EVENTS. DANA'S THERE. I'M GOING TO BE IN FULL SUPPORT OF OF ANYTHING OR
NOT ANYTHING IN SUPPORT OF WHAT DANA'S ASKING FOR BECAUSE HE,
HE DOES A SERVICE AND I'VE SEEN IT FIRSTHAND. 
          [03:20:02]
THE GUY SPENDS SO MUCH OF HIS PERSONAL TIME ON AND MONEY JUST HELPING AND AND I AM ALL FOR
THAT. 
          OKAY, SO I'VE GOT ONE. COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON. OKAY,
GOOD. 
          MAYOR. ALL RIGHT, SO WE'RE GOOD. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORTS. 
          MR. MORTON, I HAVE FOUR ITEMS TONIGHT. ONE IS FUEL. 
          [ADMINISTRATIVE AND LEGAL REPORTS:]
YOU GUYS GOTTA BE SEEING IT IN YOUR PERSONAL WALLETS. IMAGINE COMPOUND ON THAT BY
THOUSANDS OF GALLONS A MONTH. 
          SO WE DID ISSUE A DIRECTIVE TODAY TO. UNLESS IT'S AN URGENT NEED TO HAVE STAFF FUEL AT THE
FLEET DIVISION. 
          SAVES US SOMETIMES $0.70 OR MORE A GALLON ON DIESEL. 
          IT'S ACTUALLY CLOSER TO $1.69 A GALLON CHEAPER. 
          SO JUST THAT WE'RE CONSTANTLY MONITORING COSTS AND CONDITIONS OUT IN THE WORLD AND TRYING
TO MAKE SURE WE'RE STAYING ON TOP OF THINGS. 
          SO THAT'S GREAT. THIS IS A TWOFER ITEM. I WILL BE IN WASHINGTON,
DC TUESDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, GOING WITH BREVARD COUNTY WITH A GROUP OF BUSINESS LEADERS,
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT LEADERS, POLITICAL LEADERS, MILITARY, AEROSPACE EDUCATION PARTNERS TO ADVOCATE FOR PALM BAY IN BREVARD COUNTY FOR CONTINUED
INVESTMENT IN AEROSPACE, AEROSPACE MANUFACTURING, AND THOSE KEY JOBS,
THOSE JOB CENTERS AND THAT EMPLOYMENT RETRAINING WE'RE LOOKING FOR. 
          IT'S PHENOMENAL AGENDA, PHENOMENAL GROUP OF PEOPLE REALLY GRATEFUL TO BE GOING. 
          AND BECAUSE OF THAT WHILE I AM GONE, I THINK IT'S JUST A THE RESPONSIBLE THING TO DO. 
          I'M APPOINTING BY LETTER EFFECTIVE. WELL, IT'LL BE EFFECTIVE THE LETTER TOMORROW,
BUT IT WON'T BE EFFECTIVE TILL I LEAVE. 
          DOCTOR BRIAN ROBINSON IS AUTHORIZED TO SERVE AS ACTING CITY MANAGER WHILE I'M AWAY
REPRESENTING THE CITY IN WASHINGTON, D.C., TUESDAY, MARCH 31ST THROUGH FRIDAY, APRIL 3RD. 
          SERVING AS ACTING CITY MANAGER. DOCTOR ROBINSON WILL HOLD ALL SIGNATURE AUTHORITY
ASSOCIATED WITH THE ROLE OF CITY MANAGER DURING THIS TIME IN CAPACITY TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS THAT ARE REQUIRED TO BE MADE. SO THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN,
DOCTOR ROBIN, FOR STEPPING UP TO THE PLATE. 
          AND THIS MAY SEEM LIKE A RESPONSE TO MR. BATON. 
          IT IS NOT, BUT I HAD IT ON MY LIST FROM THE LAST MEETING AS PART OF THE POSTAL DISCUSSION, BUT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BROADEN IT NOW, BUT ANYONE,
I BELIEVE IS ELIGIBLE TO SIGN UP FOR EMAIL AND NOT HAVE TO PAY POSTAGE COMING OR GOING. 
          SO YOU COULD ELIMINATE THAT $9.40 BY SIGNING. 
          YOU CAN'T SIGN UP FOR AN EMAIL BILL. YOU DON'T HAVE EMAIL. WELL,
YOU'RE ONE OF THE FEW MAYBE. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THAT COST OF FIVE OF 500,000, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IN CONTEXT, IT'S NOT REALLY $500,000,
RIGHT? MOST PEOPLE HAVE EMAIL. SO WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO BRING BACK THAT FULL THING. 
          AND IT WAS I WAS GOING TO BRING THAT UP TONIGHT AND WASN'T A POKE AT YOU,
SIR. 
          I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS. YEAH, YEAH. GET AN EMAIL ACCOUNT. 
          THEY'RE FREE AND RIGHT ON YOUR PHONE. YOU'LL BE SET,
SIR. 
          OKAY. OKAY. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT WAS ALL I HAD TONIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. COUNCIL. THANK YOU, MADAM SMITH. ANYTHING TO REPORT? JUST ONE ITEM BRIEFLY. I KNOW I'VE TOLD MOST OF YOU. 
          I WAS ACTUALLY INSPIRED TO BE AN ATTORNEY BECAUSE SOMEONE CAME TO MY CAREER DAY WHEN I WAS
IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. 
          SO I DO WANT TO THANK MISS HAYNES AND THE STAFF AT LAKSHMIR ELEMENTARY FOR HAVING ME TODAY
AT CAREER DAY. 
          HAD A LOT OF GREAT KIDS THAT I MADE. ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY'S HR DON'T LISTEN,
BUT WE HAD A GREAT TIME AND I DO APPRECIATE THEM REACHING OUT. THAT'S ALL. MAYOR THANK YOU,
MA'AM. 
          THANK YOU. THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.