[00:00:02] THE TIME IS NOW 6:00. WE WILL CALL THIS MEETING FOR THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD OF PALM BAY TO ORDER. [CALL TO ORDER] WE WILL START WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. PLEASE RISE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. CAN WE HAVE ROLL CALL, PLEASE? DOUG. HOOK. PRESENT. ANTHONY. ABBOTT. PRESENT. JANE. HIGGINS. PRESENT. EILEEN. SEP HERE. WE HAVE QUORUM. THANK YOU. IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA, BUT OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS. [Additional Item] CONSIDERING WE HAVE TWO MEMBERS WHOSE TERMS EXPIRED ONE OF THEM WAS OUR VICE CHAIR OF THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD. SO WE DO NEED TO NOMINATE A NEW VICE CHAIR FOR THE TIME BEING. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A NOMINATION THAT MISS EILEEN SEP BECOME THE VICE CHAIR. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT. SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE, AYE. ANY OPPOSED? WELL, WE HAVE ONE OPPOSITION, BUT THE VOTE PASSES 3 TO 1. THE REASON WHY I WANTED TO MAKE THAT SUGGESTION IS BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY, WE WILL BE LOSING MISS JANE HIGGINS NEXT MONTH. MR. ANTHONY ABATE WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE NEXT MONTH. SO WITH THE NEW MEMBERS COMING ON BOARD POTENTIALLY FOR THE APRIL MEETING. YOU ARE LUCKY ME. YOU ARE OUR VICE CHAIR. YES. WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION OF THE AGENDA. I DO NOT HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ANY OPEN MATTERS? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, WE WILL MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER ONE, WHICH IS GLASS RECYCLING. [NEW BUSINESS] I DO SEE THAT MISS LYDIA BARBOUR IS IN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT, AND SHE IS. WHO SUGGESTED THIS BE ADDED TO OUR AGENDA. SO I WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME HER UP TO THE PODIUM. THANK YOU. LYDIA BARBOUR, 1638 FORK TERRACE, SOUTHEAST. I STARTED RECYCLING IN THE 80S. MY JURISDICTION WHERE I LIVED HAD A PARK THAT WAS SET UP FOR RECYCLING PURPOSES, AMONG OTHER THINGS. AND WE ALL COLLECTED ALL OF OUR MATERIALS AND KEPT THEM SORTED AT HOME. AND ONCE A WEEK I WOULD DRIVE TO THE PARK AND I WOULD DEPOSIT THE CORRECT THINGS IN THE CORRECT BINS. AND FROM THERE I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT HAPPENED TO IT. HOWEVER IT EVOLVED. IT EVOLVED TO THE POINT THAT WE USE, WE NOW HAVE A MATERIAL RESOURCE, WHATEVER THEY'RE CALLED MRFS, BUT THE PROCESS DOESN'T SEEM TO BE WORKING AS WELL AS IT SHOULD. FOR ONE THING, GLASS IS NOT BEING RECYCLED IN PALM BAY, ESPECIALLY, AND GLASS IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS TO BE RECYCLED AND KEPT OUT OF THE LANDFILLS. BECAUSE GLASS DOES NOT DETERIORATE, IT WILL LAST FOR A MILLION YEARS. IT CAN BE RECYCLED AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN WITHOUT USING RAW MATERIALS. IT IS IF YOU USE RAW MATERIALS, YOU ARE MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY IMPACTFUL BECAUSE YOU'RE TAKING THE MATERIALS OUT OF THE ENVIRONMENT AND THEN YOUR, YOUR, YOUR, YOU'RE WORKING WITH THEM AND PUTTING THINGS INTO THE AIR THAT DON'T BELONG THERE. BUT THE GLASS, ONCE IT IS CREATED, IT CAN BE BROKEN DOWN AND REMELTED AND REMADE INTO OTHER GLASS IMPLEMENTS, BOTTLES ESPECIALLY. SO WHY WHY THIS IS NOT HAPPENING, I DON'T UNDERSTAND. BUT IT ISN'T. AND PART OF IT IS BECAUSE PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT GLASS MAKES OTHER MATERIALS DIRTY, BUT THE FACT IS THAT THOSE OTHER MATERIALS MAKE GLASS DIRTY. SO IT'S A PROCESS THAT BECAUSE IT'S COMBINED, IS CAUSING THINGS TO NOT WORK AS WELL. THERE WAS A TIME WHEN THINGS WERE SEPARATE, AND I THINK THEY NEED TO BE SEPARATE AGAIN. I THINK GLASS NEEDS TO BE SEPARATE AGAIN. AND SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE PALM BAY DO IS HAVE A WAY OF COLLECTING GLASS AND DETERMINING HOW IT WILL BE RECYCLED, WHERE IT WILL BE RECYCLED, WHO CAN USE IT FOR WHAT PURPOSE? [00:05:06] I MEAN, THERE ARE 2R2 BOTTLING COMPANIES IN FLORIDA. AT LEAST THERE WERE ANCHOR HOCKING AND OWINGS, I THINK. AND I BELIEVE THAT THEY USE GLASS TO RECREATE GLASS BOTTLES. THERE IS ALSO A COMPANY IN FLORIDA OVER IN SARASOTA, SIBELCO THAT TAKES GLASS AND IT TURNS IT INTO THE MATERIAL THAT'S NEEDED BY OTHERS TO CREATE NEW GLASS THINGS. THEY HAVE THEY WILL PROVIDE US WITH A BIN IF WE WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT. IT'S NOT CHEAP. I THINK IT WAS LIKE ALMOST $700 TO PROVIDE THE BIN. WE WOULD COLLECT THE GLASS. THEY WOULD COME COLLECT IT, AND THEY WOULD THEN PROCESS IT FOR US. SO IT'S IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S CHEAP. HOWEVER, WE AS HUMAN BEINGS HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO TAKE CARE OF OUR TRASH. AND SO TO ME, I AM PERFECTLY WILLING TO PAY FOR THE GLASS THAT'S RECYCLED FROM MY HOUSE. MY HUSBAND AND I COLLECTED THE GLASS FOR ONE MONTH WHEN GLASS FIRST WAS ELIMINATED FROM PALM BAY'S RECYCLING, AND THERE WAS 40 POUNDS OF IT. WE DRINK WINE. WE DO. BUT 40 POUNDS OF GLASS THEN WOULD GO FROM MY HOUSEHOLD INTO THE LANDFILL EVERY MONTH. AND I'M NOT ALONE IN THAT. AND WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE LANDFILL IS THE VOLUME OF GLASS CAUSES IT TO FILL UP. WELL, IT COSTS MONEY TO CREATE A NEW LANDFILL. NOT ONLY DOES IT COST MONEY, BUT IT'S ENVIRONMENTALLY NOT GOOD, BECAUSE ONE OF THE WORST SOURCES OF METHANE IS FROM LANDFILLS. NOW, SOME PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO CAPTURE THE METHANE AND RESELL IT, AND THAT'S GREAT. BUT I DON'T THINK MOST PEOPLE ARE DOING THAT. SO THE METHANE JUST GETS PRODUCED FROM THE LANDFILL. SO CREATE A NEW LANDFILL. YOU'VE GOT A NEW SOURCE OF METHANE AND YOU'VE GOT MORE OF THE EARTH THAT'S BEING USED JUST TO CAPTURE OUR TRASH. SO WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. AND A WHILE BACK, MR. MORTON PROPOSED THAT THE PENALTIES THAT WOULD BE COLLECTED FROM REPUBLIC FOR THEIR CONTRACT VIOLATIONS COULD BE USED BY THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD. I'M HOPING THAT THAT'S STILL THE CASE AND THAT THERE'S STILL A SOURCE OF FUNDING FOR WHATEVER WE DECIDE TO DO. HOWEVER, WE HOWEVER WE DECIDE TO DO IT. THERE ARE LOTS OF PLACES IN PALM BAY THAT COULD BE USED FOR CITIZENS TO DELIVER THEIR GLASS. THERE ARE EIGHT OR MAYBE NINE FIRE STATIONS THAT COULD BE USED. THERE ARE 36 PARKS SPREAD OUT ALL OVER THE CITY. BETWEEN THOSE TWO, SURELY WE COULD FIND A FEW THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR FOR CITIZENS TO DELIVER THEIR GLASS AND APPROPRIATE FOR SOMEONE TO COME PICK IT UP AND TAKE IT TO BE USED FOR CREATING NEW GLASS. THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. IT WOULD INVOLVE THE CITY HELPING FIGURE OUT WHERE WOULD BE THE BEST PLACES FOR THIS TO BE DONE. IT WOULD ALSO REQUIRE, IN MY MIND, SOMEBODY LIKE THE THE AUTHOR OF THE PALM BAYER, TO PUBLISH WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO AND GET THE CITIZENRY INVOLVED IN IT AND EXCITED ABOUT IT AND DOING IT. SO THERE'S LOTS OF THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE. THERE ARE LOTS OF THINGS THAT NEED TO BE FIGURED OUT, BUT I'M HOPING THAT THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD IS STILL IN A POSITION TO SUPPORT FIGURING OUT HOW TO RECYCLE GLASS ONCE AGAIN. THERE ARE OPTIONS AVAILABLE TODAY THAT I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT WHEN I FIRST STARTED LOOKING AT THIS IN FLORIDA. I UNDERSTAND THAT REPUBLIC IS ACTUALLY DELIVERING GLASS TO AN MRF IN INDIAN RIVER COUNTY, AND THAT THAT'S WHERE THEIR MRF IS, AND THAT WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH THE GLASS IS GRINDING IT UP AND PUTTING IT IN THE LANDFILL, WHICH IS REALLY SAD, REALLY SAD. BUT I'M HOPEFUL THAT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'LL END UP DOING. [00:10:10] SO MY PROPOSAL IS, SHALL I CONTINUE INVESTIGATING THIS AND COMING UP WITH RECOMMENDATIONS? AND WHAT QUESTIONS DO YOU HAVE? THANK YOU. I WILL OPEN UP FOR DISCUSSION FOR THE BOARD. DO YOU HAVE. I ALWAYS HAVE QUESTIONS. OKAY. I LOVE THE IDEA OF RECYCLING GLASS. I THINK IT'S TERRIBLE WHEN WE STOPPED COLLECTING IT IN THOSE BINS. THERE ARE OTHER THINGS I ACTUALLY SAW RECENTLY. A GUY BUILT A HOUSE OUT OF GLASS BOTTLES AND IT HELD UP FOR QUITE SOME TIME. THE OTHER THING IS AQUEDUCTS THAT HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR, FOR OVER 4000 YEARS, I THINK. IN THE FLOOR OF THE AQUEDUCTS IS CERAMIC, WHICH IS GLASS. THERE ARE MACHINES THAT USED TO BE AT SUPERMARKETS WHERE YOU COULD PUT THE BOTTLES IN AND THAT BROKE IT DOWN. THAT MIGHT EVEN BE A BETTER WAY OF DOING IT THAN YOU DON'T HAVE THE TRANSPORTATION ISSUES, YOU JUST PULL IT OUT IN BAGS THAT CAN BE USED TO MAYBE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE OUR CANALS. AND I KNOW I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE, SEE OUR CANALS BE TURNED INTO AQUEDUCTS. AND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. THE CANALS WERE MEANT TO JUST COLLECT WATER SO THAT WE WEREN'T, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT RAINED OR POURED, WE WEREN'T DROWNING. BUT SINCE THEY'RE ALREADY THERE, WELL, MAYBE HALF THE WORK IS DONE. BUT WE COULD PUT FILTRATION SYSTEMS AT THE BASE OF THEM WITH BIOCHAR AND GLASS AND THEN RUN MAYBE A GRID OVER IT SO WE CAN WALK OVER IT, BUT IT WOULD BE ENCLOSED. AND IT COULD ALSO COLLECT WATER THAT WE CAN FUNNEL INTO THE AQUIFER. HOPEFULLY JUST GET IT BACK INTO THE GROUNDWATER BECAUSE WE'RE FACING SOME SERIOUS ISSUES. AND I KNOW I'M GETTING A LITTLE BIT OFF TOPIC WITH WHAT YOU WANT, BUT I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF DOING SOMETHING. AND I THINK IF WE CAN ELIMINATE HAVING TO TRANSPORT IT AND HAVE PEOPLE BRING IT TO MACHINES THAT WILL BREAK IT UP. AND THEN WE CAN MAKE IT MORE USEFUL. WE CAN SHARE IT WITH ARTIST GROUPS THAT MAY WANT TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT. I'VE SEEN SCULPTURES AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT. YOU KNOW, OR SCHOOLS FOR THE SAME PURPOSES. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS YOU CAN DO WITH THE ELEMENTS THAT WE HAVE ON THIS EARTH. AND THAT'S ONE THAT IT'S REALLY A SHAME THAT IT'S JUST BEING MIXED IN WITH GARBAGE AND YES, BEING MIXED IN WITH THE GARBAGE. YEAH. THERE'S GOING TO BE LOTS OF METHANE COMING OUT OF THERE. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US TAKE TAKE A MORE PROACTIVE ROLE WITH, WITH THE THINGS THAT WE DISCUSS AND MAYBE HAVE A MOTION WHEN WE COME TO SOME CONCLUSIONS. AND THOSE ARE THE THINGS I'D LIKE TO SEE SHARED WITH WHATEVER BOARDS AND THE CITY COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT JUST SCHEDULES OR TALKING ABOUT THE SAME THINGS. EVERY ELEMENT ON THIS EARTH HAS A VALUE AND A PURPOSE. IT CAN CLEAN OUR AIR, IT CAN EAT BUGS. IT CAN. I KNOW YOU LIKE BUGS. I'M SORRY. WE NEED BUGS. I DON'T, BUT YOU KNOW, JUST THINGS THAT WE'RE PUTTING CHEMICALS IN WHEN THE CHEMISTRY IS THERE. OKAY, SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE. AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING HERE AND BRINGING THIS INFORMATION TO US. AND ANY MORE THAT YOU CAN FIND OUT, I CERTAINLY WOULD APPRECIATE IT. AND I'M PRETTY SURE THE REST OF THE BOARD WOULD. BUT WE NEED TO TRY TO COME TO SOME SOLUTIONS WITH IT, NOT JUST COLLECTING AND TRANSPORTING. WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET IT DONE HERE AND MAKE IT USEFUL, COME UP WITH POTENTIAL USES FOR DEGRADED GLASS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WOULD CALL IT. WHY DON'T YOU CHOP IT UP? BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF USES FOR IT. AND YOU'RE RIGHT, IT'S VERY DURABLE. IT LASTS FOREVER. IT'S CALLED CULLET. WELL, IT'S CALLED CULLET. THAT'S WHAT THE GROUND GLASS IS CALLED. THAT'S WHAT'S USED THEN TO CREATE SOMETHING NEW. IS THAT IT? YEAH. AND WE SHOULD DO THAT. AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS WE CAN, WE COULD APPEAL TO THE SCHOOLS AND SEE IF THEY HAVE PROJECTS THEY'D LIKE TO USE IT FOR. [00:15:03] I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF THE COLLEGES HAVE ART PROGRAMS. THEY MAY BE ABLE TO USE IT. I KNOW WHEN I WAS IN COLLEGE, WE DID THINGS WITH CRAZY STUFF, BUT YEAH, I THANK YOU. YOU'VE BROUGHT THIS UP A FEW TIMES AND I'M GRATEFUL FOR YOUR TENACITY BECAUSE I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU, BUT WE NEED TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING ACTIONABLE. AND WE NEED TO START HAVING MOTIONS ON WITH THE INFORMATION WE COLLECT, BECAUSE SO FAR WE'VE BEEN DOING REPORTS AND WE'RE COLLECTING IT AND THEN NOTHING'S HAPPENING. AND THAT'S A LITTLE FRUSTRATING. SO WE HAVE AN ENGINEER HERE. WE HAVE THE HORTICULTURAL PEOPLE AND ME, I'M MORE INTO BIOCHEMISTRY, BUT YOU KNOW, LET'S MAKE THIS BOARD USEFUL AND HOPEFULLY GET MORE PEOPLE TO SHOW UP. IF WE SHOW THAT THERE'S A CONCLUSION OR A SOLUTION TO IT, MAYBE PEOPLE WILL COME AND SAY, YEAH, THIS IS WHAT I WANT TO GET DONE AND I WILL BE HERE. OKAY. THANK YOU. LYDIA DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? YES, LYDIA. I KNOW AT THE LAST MEETING, HEATHER TOLD US ABOUT INDIAN RIVER COUNTY. WHAT DID SHE SAY THAT NORTH OF PALM BAY IS DOING WITH THEIR GLASS RECYCLING, WHICH WOULD BE NOT REPUBLIC, BUT WASTE MANAGEMENT. MANAGEMENT. WASTE MANAGEMENT IS PUTTING IT INTO THE LANDFILL. THEY ARE OKAY. DARREN. UNFORTUNATELY. HOPING FOR SOMETHING THERE. YEP. FLAGLER BEACH HAS A MACHINE THEY CALL BIG BLUE THAT AT THE TIME I LOOKED AT IT A FEW YEARS AGO, IT COST $200,000, BUT IT WAS A MACHINE THAT THE RESIDENTS COULD BRING THEIR GLASS TO AND PUT IT IN, AND IT WOULD BE GROUND RIGHT THEN. NOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW SUCCESSFUL THAT WAS. I KNOW THAT MR. MORTON WAS INVOLVED IN PUTTING THAT IN PLACE, SO HE MIGHT KNOW MORE ABOUT THAT THAN I DO, BUT I KNOW THAT THAT'S ANOTHER OPTION. BUT SO THERE IS A MACHINE THAT WILL ALLOW YOU TO WALK UP AND PUT YOUR GLASS IN IT AND TURN IT INTO CULLET. SO THAT EXISTS. THERE'S ALSO CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS LIKE TERRAZZO. IT'S PART GLASS. SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS WE CAN USE IT FOR, AND WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PRODUCE IT AND MAYBE EVEN MAKE SOME MONEY BACK FOR THE CITY ON IT. WHO KNOWS? I CAN DREAM. YEAH. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE. I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO BE SIMPLE ABOUT THIS AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO RECYCLE GLASS SO THAT IT CAN BE USED FOR ANY VARIETY OF THINGS, BUT WE NEED FOR THE CITIZENS TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS. AND THAT'S THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS BECAUSE I DON'T SEE WELL, PERHAPS IT WOULD WORK IF WE SAID TO REPUBLIC, WE WANT YOU TO DO A SINGLE STREAM, A SECOND STREAM FOR COLLECTING GLASS. I MEAN, THAT'S A POSSIBILITY. I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S GOING TO WORK IF THEY'VE ALREADY SAID THEY WON'T RECYCLE GLASS. SO I THINK WE MAY BE ON OUR OWN TO FIGURE OUT WILL THE CITIZENS PARTICIPATE IN RECYCLING GLASS SO THAT WE CAN THEN FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET IT OUT OF THE LANDFILLS AND INTO SOME OTHER USE? THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US ELIMINATE PLASTIC AND GO BACK TO GLASS. UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T SEE THAT HAPPENING. BUT PLASTIC IS GOING TO BE THE DEATH OF US, I'M AFRAID. SO DO YOU THINK THAT WE STILL HAVE FUNDING AVAILABLE? I'M UNSURE OF THAT. I CAN REACH OUT TO THE CITY MANAGER, HIS OFFICE TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THAT IS A FEASIBILITY FOR IT. I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS, LOOKING AT A COUPLE OF NUMBERS, THAT WAS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU. BUT I WILL ACTUALLY DEFER MR. ABOUT DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HER? NOT NOT QUESTIONS, BUT JUST MAYBE COMMENTS. I THINK THIS IS A GREAT TOPIC. IN MY COMPANY, WE HAVE SOME GLASS CONTENT IN OUR PRODUCT, WHICH WE DO RECYCLE, WE SEND TO RECYCLING CENTER AND WE GET AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT. AND IT'S PRETTY EYE OPENING WHEN YOU SEE EXACTLY WHAT THE IMPACT OF DOING THAT WILL YIELD. BUT YOU KNOW, I THINK IF WE CAN DEVELOP A PROCEDURE. SO IN OTHER WORDS, HERE'S HOW YOU DO IT. AND THEN WE HAVE TO COMMUNICATE THAT TO RAISE THE AWARENESS. AND WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO GET THREE KINDS OF GROUPS OF PEOPLE. SOME PEOPLE ARE GOING TO LOVE IT AND THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT AND THEY PROBABLY ALREADY ARE, BUT WE'LL GET MORE OF THOSE PEOPLE. SOME PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND. SO WHEN YOU MAKE THEM UNDERSTAND, THEY'LL SAY, OH, OKAY, THIS REALLY DOES MATTER. AND SO WE'LL GET THAT GROUP. [00:20:02] IT'S GOING TO BE A GROUP THAT WILL BE RESISTANT TO ANYTHING. AND UNLESS YOU ABSOLUTELY FORCE THEM TO DO IT, THEY WON'T DO IT. I MEAN, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES I DRIVE DOWN A BLOCK AND I SEE THE RECYCLING BINS THAT ARE PUT OUT AND I SEE TRASH IN THERE AND VICE VERSA. YEAH. I SHOULDN'T BE LOOKING AT PEOPLE'S TRASH, BUT THAT'S ANOTHER STORY. BUT BUT ANYWAY BUT I THINK IF WE CAN AS A GROUP, YOU KNOW, IF WE COULD DEVELOP THIS WOULD BE A PROCEDURE THAT WOULD BE PRETTY EASY TO FOLLOW. AND THEN BUILD THE AWARENESS CAMPAIGN AND THEN PARTNER WITH SOMEONE THAT CAN BRING OUT THE AWARENESS. MAYBE IT'S A MEDIA OUTLET, MAYBE SOMEBODY ELSE. THAT'S HOW WE CAN KIND OF TURN THIS IDEA INTO SOMETHING THAT HITS THE GROUND AND ACTUALLY BECOMES A, YOU KNOW, A MOVEMENT. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'D ALL LIKE TO ACCOMPLISH. I LOVE SEEING THE PALM BAY ARE PUBLISHED IN NEXT DOOR. BECAUSE I THINK IT'S REACHING A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WAY. AND SO I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT TO BE OUR VEHICLE OF COMMUNICATION, TO GET THE WORD OUT. ONCE WE DETERMINE WHAT IT IS, WE'RE GOING TO DO WHAT WE'D LIKE THE CITIZENRY TO DO. I DO HAVE A SUGGESTION THOUGH, WITH THE RECYCLING MACHINES FOR GLASS. THE REWARD WAS YOU GOT A NICKEL FOR EVERY BOTTLE. SO I WOULD COLLECT THEM AND GIVE THEM TO MY NEPHEW. SO HE WAS HAPPY. YOU KNOW PEOPLE LIKE REWARDS FOR THE THINGS THEY DO BECAUSE OTHERWISE IT'S THE PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE. IF WE AREN'T GOING TO PUT BINS IN ON THEIR PROPERTY FOR IT TO BE LEFT OUT AND PICKED UP, THEN THE NEXT BEST THING TO INCENTIVIZE THEM IS HAVE SOME SORT OF REWARD. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WOULD BE, BUT WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE THE VALUE PER POUND, I GUESS, OF, OF THE GLASS WOULD BE AND COME UP WITH SOME KIND OF FORMULA FOR MAKING IT AN EVENT. PEOPLE HAVE TO BE MOTIVATED TO DO THESE THINGS. EVEN THOUGH YOU AND I PERSONALLY, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU. I SAVE EVERYTHING AND REUSE IT. BUT YOU KNOW, THERE HAS TO BE SOME SORT OF PLAN. ONE SUGGESTION MIGHT BE TO CHECK WITH THE EPA OR THE FLORIDA DEP AND SEE IF THEY HAVE ANY KIND OF GLASS INCENTIVE RECYCLING PROGRAMS. BUT AGAIN, THANK YOU, LYDIA. ALL RIGHT. I WILL TAKE MY OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF THROW OUT MY THOUGHTS. I LOVE THE IDEA. I KNOW JUST IN THE FULL TRANSPARENCY MISS BARBOUR HAS BEEN COMMUNICATING WITH ME DIRECTLY ON SOME OF THIS BEFORE. SO SHE'S KIND OF GIVING ME SOME THOUGHTS AND I'VE KIND OF BOUNCED SOME THINGS BACK WITH HER ON THERE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HAVE TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT AND WE AS A BOARD HAVE TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT AND KIND OF TO PUT EVERYTHING IN CONTEXT, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT TURNING IDEAS INTO ACTION. THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HAVE BROUGHT UP NUMEROUS TIMES TO LEADERSHIP WHENEVER I'VE GOTTEN OPPORTUNITIES TO TALK WITH THEM. BUT THE BIG PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE IN PALM BAY IS THAT THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD HAS NO FUNDING. SO WHEN WE COME UP WITH THESE IDEAS AND THESE PROPOSALS, WE ALSO, IN THE SAME TURN, HAVE TO FIND WAYS TO FUND THEM. SO MISS BARBOUR HAS SUGGESTED THAT POTENTIALLY MR. MORTON HAS FLOATED THE IDEA OF USING THE IMPACT FEES FROM REPUBLIC PARTNERS. THAT'S GREAT. BUT FOR US TO DEVELOP A PROJECT, WE FIRST NEED TO KNOW WHAT THAT LEVEL OF BUY IN IS GOING TO BE. SOME OF THE NUMBERS THAT YOU THREW OUT WE HAVEN'T TALKED NUMBERS PREVIOUSLY BEFORE, BUT ONE OF THE NUMBERS YOU THREW OUT WAS $700 FOR A COLLECTION BIN. DO YOU KNOW IF THAT COLLECTION, THAT $700 WOULD INCLUDE PICKUP PRICING, OR WOULD THAT INVOLVE A FUTURE FEE ON THE BACK END FOR THE THAT OTHER COMPANY TO COME PICK IT UP AS WELL? I THINK. I THINK LET'S SEE. A SEPARATE FACILITY ROLL OFF AND HAULING TO SARASOTA WAS 3.5 HOURS. SHE WOULD NEED TO SEE WHAT THE FREIGHT WOULD COST. IT WOULD BE ABOUT 20 YARDS. AND SHE, SHE GAVE ME A QUOTE AT THAT TIME OF ABOUT $700, AND I THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS DELIVERY. AND THEN PICKUP. THERE'S ONE EXTRA THERE'S ONE EXTRA ONE FOR GETTING THE INITIAL BIN OR TAKING THE, THE FINAL ONE AWAY. BUT I BELIEVE THAT IT DID INCLUDE THE TRANSPORTATION AND THE DELIVERY AND THEN THE TRANSPORT BACK, BUT THAT WOULD MEAN THAT WE WOULD BE USING THEM TO SELL THE CULLET TO, OR THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD BE TURNING THE GLASS INTO CULLET. [00:25:03] OKAY. AND SO THAT WOULD BE A SITUATION. FORGIVE ME FOR NOT KNOWING THE SPECIFICS OF IT, THAT WOULD BE A SITUATION WHERE CITIZENS WOULD JUST BE ABLE TO TOSS THEIR GLASS IN THAT BIN AND NOT HAVE TO. THERE WOULD BE NO PRE-PROCESSING. IT WOULD JUST BE CITIZENS PUT IT IN BIN. BIN GETS HAULED AWAY, AND THEN EVERYTHING'S HANDLED BY THE COMPANY. EXCELLENT. SO I THINK JUST KIND OF LISTENING INTO EVERYBODY'S SUGGESTIONS AND EVERYTHING AND TRYING TO PUT IT ALL TOGETHER IN MY HEAD. I LOVE THE IDEA OF BIG BLUE. AND ESPECIALLY LIKE YOU SAID MR. MORTON SEEMED TO HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THAT PREVIOUSLY. I DO THINK THAT $200,000 PRICE POINT IS GOING TO BE NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE TO REACH ANYTIME IN THE NEAR FUTURE ESPECIALLY AS A PROOF OF CONCEPT WHEN WE DON'T HAVE A GLASS RECYCLING PROGRAM AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CITIZEN BUY IN IS GOING TO BE. SO WHAT I WAS KIND OF THINKING IS PUTTING TOGETHER A MULTI-PHASE PROJECT, IF WE'RE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS THIRD PARTY COMPANY, THE $700 OR WHATEVER, A LOWER ENTRY PRICE POINT IF WE'RE ABLE TO ESTABLISH ONE OF THOSE BINS AND KIND OF A PROOF OF CONCEPT, FIGURE OUT ROUGHLY HOW QUICKLY WE'RE FILLING THAT BIN UP, HOW MANY CITIZENS WE'RE GETTING INVOLVED WITH IT. I THINK THAT WOULD BE KIND OF THE ENTRY LEVEL POINT FOR US. I LOVE THE IDEAS OF GOING BIG. BUT WE CAN'T GO BIG RIGHT OUTSIDE THE GATES. BECAUSE ESPECIALLY HAVING A QUESTIONABLE AMOUNT OF FUNDING. A WHILE BACK, WE HAD TALKED WITH THEM ABOUT DELIVERING A ROLLBACK TO CITY HALL AS BEING A PLACE WHERE WE WOULD, WE COULD START. SO IF WE'RE LOOKING TO START SMALL, WE COULD START THERE. AND I LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING IT AT CITY HALL, JUST BECAUSE I THINK PEOPLE WOULD BE A LITTLE MORE RELUCTANT TO THROW TRASH IN THERE. THIS BIN THAT THEY WOULD BE PROVIDING WOULD NOT HAVE A COVER. SO IF SOMEBODY REALLY WANTED TO, THEY COULD THROW A MATTRESS IN THERE. SO HAVING IT IN A PLACE THAT THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE OR LAW ENFORCEMENT OR FIREMEN, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT OF A DETERRENT FOR OR A WAY OF ENSURING THAT THE GLASS WAS AS CLEAN AS IT COULD POSSIBLY BE. EXCELLENT. YES. I DO LIKE THAT IDEA BECAUSE THAT'S KIND OF ONE OF THE THINGS, IF WE WERE ONLY HAVING ONE AS AN ADDITIONAL ROLL OFF POINT AS WE'RE BUILDING THIS PROGRAM OUT, WHAT'S A GOOD CENTRALIZED LOCATION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY? AND CITY HALL SEEMS TO BE A GOOD CHOICE ON THERE. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH ACTION WE CAN REQUEST OF OUR STAFF LIAISONS. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE COULD ASK PUBLIC WORKS TO LOOK INTO AS TO HOW MUCH FUNDING MIGHT BE AVAILABLE FROM THE PUBLIC CONTRACT AND WHAT LOCATION, WHETHER OR NOT WE COULD GET ONE OF THOSE ROLL OFF BINS HERE AT CITY HALL. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY HARM IN ASKING. THE THE COUPLE THINGS I DO WANT TO JUST KIND OF MAKE APPARENT THAT I'VE COME TO LEARN SINCE RESEARCHING THE TOPIC LAST, LAST MEETING. WHEN IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE TALKED ABOUT THEN IS THE CITY ITSELF CANNOT GET INVOLVED WITH ANOTHER WASTE HAULER. THIS DOES INCLUDE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS THAT WOULD COME IN AND DO RECYCLING. SO IT WOULD HAVE TO BE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY ITSELF. SO IF YOU AS A SUSTAINABILITY BOARD OR AS INDIVIDUALS IN A SUSTAINABILITY BOARD, WANTED TO PUT FORTH A RECYCLING EFFORT FOR GLASS, THAT WOULD BE ONE THING. WE COULDN'T, THE CITY ITSELF COULDN'T BRING IN ANOTHER NONPROFIT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT BECAUSE THEN IT WOULD BE ANOTHER WASTE HAULER. AND THAT'S A VIOLATION OF THE CONTRACT WITH REPUBLIC. WE CAN I KNOW, I KNOW REPUBLIC DOES HAVE THE MEANS TO TRANSPORT IN CERTAIN AREAS AND WHATNOT. I KNOW THAT TALKING TO THEM ABOUT THIS CONTRACT SPECIFICALLY. THEY DO NOT. SO I CAN ASK WHATEVER QUESTIONS YOU WOULD LIKE. I DON'T FORESEE A LOT COMING FROM IT, BUT IT DOES NOT HURT TO ASK. OKAY. IF YOU WANT TO GET WITH ME AND JUST GIVE ME THOSE QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO LOOK INTO IT. YEAH. I THINK UNFORTUNATELY THAT MIGHT LIMIT OUR CAPABILITIES. IF WE HAVE A NON-COMPETE CLAUSE WITH I WILL SAY THE COLLEGE WAS A GOOD IDEA. I REALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF THE COLLEGE WORKING WITH A NONPROFIT OR SOMETHING WHERE THEY COLLECT THE GLASS, TAKE IT AND USE IT FOR ART PURPOSES OR OTHER THINGS. THAT'S NOT A BAD IDEA AT ALL. OKAY. SO WE DO HAVE A CAMPUS FOR EASTERN FLORIDA WITHIN CITY LIMITS. CORRECT? YEAH. BECAUSE I WAS THINKING WHAT, WHAT OPPORTUNITIES WOULD WE HAVE? FLORIDA TECH IS OUTSIDE OF PALM BAY CITY LIMITS. SO THAT'S GOING TO BE HARD FOR THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD TO KIND OF PULL DRAW ON. BUT EASTERN FLORIDA MIGHT BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY. AND AGAIN, SPEAKING OF LOCATION, THAT'S A CENTRALIZED LOCATION RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CITY. [00:30:04] DO YOU KNOW IF WE HAVE ANY CONTACTS WITH EASTERN FLORIDA THAT THE CITY MIGHT HAVE THAT WE COULD REACH OUT TO? I'M SURE THE CITY DOES. I UNFORTUNATELY DO NOT HAVE THOSE AT THIS MOMENT, BUT I CAN LOOK INTO IT AND TRY TO GET THOSE FOR YOU. OKAY. YEAH. EXCELLENT. THE ONLY PROBLEM I HAVE WITH THE LARGE COLLECTION BINS IS NOT EVERYBODY CLEANS THE GLASS AND THE LONGER LIKE SUGARS AND WHATEVER, STAY ON IT. IT ATTRACTS ALL KINDS OF VARMINTS, WHATEVER. I, AND I DON'T SEE ANYBODY THAT WOULD WANT ONE OF THOSE. SORRY. IT WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A LID. THAT'S WHY I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE CRUSHING MACHINES. YOU JUST PUT ONE BOTTLE IN AT A TIME. YOU DON'T SEE IT COMES OUT IN A PLASTIC BAG AND YOU SELL IT OR DO WHATEVER YOU'RE GOING TO DO WITH IT. PLUS IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE. YOU KNOW, THAT'S MY ONLY COMMENT THERE. I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO FLY WITH ANYBODY, BUT THAT'S MY OPINION. SO EVEN THOUGH THE CITY CANNOT ENGAGE, ANOTHER VENDOR CAN. WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR SOME GROUP TO PUT THE BIN ON CITY PROPERTY OR IS THAT PROHIBITED AS WELL? THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE A CONVERSATION HAD BY THE CITY AND THE THE ORGANIZATION, THE GROUP. THE WAY THAT I WAS THINKING ABOUT IT WAS, LET'S SAY YOU ORGANIZED A VOLUNTEER EVENT WHERE PEOPLE BROUGHT THE RECYCLING, PEOPLE SPENT THE DAY SORTING IT OUT. LET'S SAY YOU DID THAT AT FRED POPPY PARK. YOU COULD VERY WELL DO A SPECIAL EVENTS APPLICATION PERMIT TO TO DO SUCH AN EVENT. AND IT WOULD BE ON CITY PROPERTY, BUT IT'S NOT THE CITY HOSTING THE EVENT. IT'S NOT A CITY EFFORT. SO I DON'T SEE WHY A NONPROFIT OR AN ORGANIZATION COULD COME TO THE CITY AND SAY, HEY, WE'D LIKE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT HOSTING AN EVENT ON CITY PROPERTY OR OR EVEN PUTTING DOWN A COLLECTION BIN? I WOULD JUST HAVE TO WORK OUT THE PARTICULARS OR FIGURE OUT IF THERE'S ANY ANYTHING THAT WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF, BUT AS LONG AS IT'S COMING FROM THE OUTSIDE IN, I THINK IT'S, IT'S, THAT'S THAT'S SAFE. KBB MIGHT BE A GROUP TO HELP WITH THAT, YOU KNOW? THAT'S THE ONLY ONE I CAN THINK OF RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. I KNOW THAT THE CITY OF PALM BAY HAS A PARTNERSHIP WITH KEEP BREVARD BEAUTIFUL. IS KEEP BREVARD BEAUTIFUL FULLY INDEPENDENT, OR IS IT A QUASI JURISDICTIONAL WITHIN CITY OR THE COUNTY OF BREVARD? OH, BECAUSE I BELIEVE BREVARD COUNTY RUNS ARE BEAUTIFUL AND I DON'T THINK THEY'RE THEIR OWN SEPARATE NONPROFIT. I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT I THOUGHT THEY WERE THEIR OWN NONPROFIT. I DON'T BELIEVE THEY ARE. THEY'RE INDEPENDENT. I KNOW THEY HAVE THE MONTHLY MEETINGS WHERE EVERYBODY ALL THE HEADS GET TOGETHER. AND YEAH, I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I'LL HAVE TO FIGURE THAT OUT. YEAH. MISS BARBOUR, DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW OF ANY NON-PROFITS THAT MIGHT BE INVOLVED IN THIS SPACE WITHIN THE COUNTY? NO, BUT I CAN REACH OUT TO SOME PEOPLE. I CAN REACH OUT THROUGH IFAS AND FIND OUT BECAUSE THEY PULLED TOGETHER THE LANDSCAPING SEMINAR THIS PAST WEEKEND AND THERE WERE A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT GROUPS THERE. AND KEEP BREVARD BEAUTIFUL WAS ONE, ONE OF THE GROUPS THAT WAS THERE. AS WAS SORREL, THERE WERE A NUMBER OF THEM. THERE WERE A NUMBER OF THEM. SO IF ANY OF THEM ARE SO, SO THE POINT IS THEY HAVE TO BE INDEPENDENT OF A GOVERNMENT OF A COUNTY OR CITY GOVERNMENT IN ORDER TO BE, I BELIEVE, FROM WHAT DEREK IS EXPLAINING IS THAT THERE ARE CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS THAT SPECIFICALLY MUNICIPALITIES WOULD HAVE. SO PALM BAY HAS ONE WITH REPUBLIC. THE CITY OR THE COUNTY PROBABLY HAS ONE WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT. AND THAT MAY LIMIT WHAT THE ACTUAL ORGANIZATIONAL OUR GOVERNMENT ORGANIZATIONS WOULD BE ABLE TO DO. AND GOOGLE IS SAYING KB IS AN INDEPENDENT NONPROFIT. OKAY. I MEAN, THAT'S A-I WOULD PROBABLY BE WORTH DOUBLE CHECKING. I ALWAYS THOUGHT THEY WERE INDEPENDENT, BUT THEY MAY BE ONE OF THE SITUATIONS WHERE THE COUNTY SET THEM UP AND THEN FUNDS THEM, BUT THEY ARE INDEPENDENT. YEAH. I KNOW THAT WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THE CITY OF PALM BAY WHERE WE PAY KEEP OUR BEAUTIFUL FOR SOME OF THEIR SERVICES AS WELL. SO. OKAY. I BELIEVE THAT THE OBSTACLE WITH REPUBLIC IS FOR RECYCLING ONLY, BUT NOT BRINGING IT TO A PURPOSEFUL USE. SO IF WE HAD A WAY OF CRUSHING IT OURSELVES, WE COULD USE IT OR SHARE IT WITH RESIDENTS OR [00:35:02] CONSTRUCTION PEOPLE IF THEY WANT TO PUT A CONCRETE PATH AND THROW GLASS IN IT. SO IT'S A LITTLE MORE DURABLE. YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS YOU CAN DO. THE ONLY THING REPUBLIC WOULD HAVE US STAND ON, I, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, WOULD BE DOING THEIR JOB. SO WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO DO THEIR JOB BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT IT. WHAT DEPARTMENT HANDLES THE REPUBLIC? IS THAT FACILITIES OR IS IT THAT PUBLIC WORKS. IT'S CUSTOMER SERVICE AND PUBLIC WORKS. THEY HANDLE THE PUBLIC CONTRACT. OKAY. YEAH. SO THE PEOPLE MOST FAMILIAR WITH THE CONTRACT WOULD BE PUBLIC WORKS, MOST LIKELY. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION ON THIS, THAT WE EACH DO WHATEVER WE CAN TO COME UP WITH SOME KIND OF A SOLUTION THAT MAKES SENSE AND ISN'T GOING TO COST US ANYTHING. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR THE BOARD TO TAKE ACTION ON COMING UP WITH IDEAS FOR GLASS RECYCLING. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. OKAY, WE HAVE A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES FOUR ZERO. DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS TOPIC? I THINK WE'VE PLAYED OUT A LOT OF OUR OPTIONS. WE HAVE SOME IDEAS FOR THE BOARD. I THINK WE SHOULD BE GOOD FROM HERE. YEAH. YEP. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU, MISS BARBOUR. WE WILL MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS VOLUNTEER FOR INVASIVE SPECIES AWARENESS WEEK AT TURKEY CREEK. I BELIEVE THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT OF A TYPO. I'M SEEING AS THOUGH INVASIVE SPECIES AWARENESS WEEK HAS GONE OUR WAY, ARE GONE PAST US. BUT I THINK THE DISCUSSION WAS GOING TO BE CLARIFICATION ABOUT IDEAS ON WAY TO DRAW VOLUNTEERS FOR TURKEY CREEK EVENTS IN GENERAL. WAS INITIALLY I THINK WHAT WE WERE GOING TO TALK ABOUT ON THERE. SO SPEAKING OF THAT I HAVE NOTICED THAT THE TURKEY CREEK HAS BEEN IF YOU'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THE CITY OF PALM BAY'S CALENDAR TURKEY CREEK IS PUMPING OUT EVENTS RIGHT NOW. THEY ARE DOING A NUMBER OF THINGS ALMOST EVERY OTHER WEEKEND. I THINK IT WAS TWO WEEKENDS AGO. THEY DID A KIDS GARDENING OR A KID'S POLLINATOR CLASS. THIS UPCOMING WEEKEND, THEY'RE DOING A POLLINATOR CLASS FOR ADULTS. THERE'S A, THERE'S AN ALLIGATOR DAY COMING UP. THERE'S A SNAKE DAY COMING UP. THERE'S A SEED SWAP COMING UP ALL AT TURKEY CREEK. SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AS WE ARE AS THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD IF WE'RE ABLE TO, AGAIN, IDEAS TO ACTION COME UP WITH WAYS TO DRAW VOLUNTEERS TO THESE EVENTS AND DRAW MORE VISITORS TO THESE EVENTS. I THINK THAT WOULD BE A BENEFIT FOR NOT ONLY TURKEY CREEK IN THE CITY, BUT ALSO FOR THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD TO PARTNER WITH THAT. ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US DO AS A BOARD IS BE INVOLVED IN THESE EVENTS. REACH OUT TO TURKEY CREEK AND HAVE A BOARD MEMBER THERE FOR SOME OF THESE EVENTS, MAYBE NOT NECESSARILY ALLIGATOR DAY BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T REALLY FALL WITHIN OUR JURISDICTION. YES, BUT LIKE ANY GARDENING CLASSES THE SEED SWAP CLASS, IF THE CITY OF PALM BAY IS ABLE TO BE THERE AND THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD IS ABLE TO BE THERE AND PARTNER WITH TURKEY CREEK, THAT INCREASES OUR AWARENESS AND INCREASES THEIR AWARENESS WE'RE ABLE TO KIND OF MESH THESE THINGS TOGETHER. THE ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I KNOW WAS ASKED HAS BEEN ASKED PREVIOUSLY AND IT WAS EVEN ASKED IN THE REMEMBRANCE GARDEN THING THE PROCESS FOR THE CITY DRAWING VOLUNTEERS TO EVENTS HAS CHANGED. IT IS JUST A SIMPLE LIABILITY WAIVER NOW THAT THERE'S NO LONGER A BACKGROUND CHECK AND X, Y, AND Z THAT GOES ON. IS THAT CORRECT? IF I'M RECALLING CORRECTLY I DON'T KNOW ABOUT OTHER EVENTS THAT WAS JUST FOR THE RIDE ALONG. OKAY, SO I KNOW AN EMAIL WAS SENT TO RISK MANAGEMENT ASKING THEM WHAT THE PROCEDURE WOULD BE. SO WE'LL FOLLOW UP WITH YOU ON THAT WHEN WE GET AN ANSWER. OKAY, EXCELLENT. ONE OF THE THINGS KIND OF TANGENTIALLY TO THIS SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT VOLUNTEERS AND PARTICIPATING WITH TURKEY CREEK AND I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THIS IN MY BOARD REPORT. I CREATED AN EVENT CALENDAR THAT IS PUBLICLY AVAILABLE FOR OUR SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD. IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I KIND OF WANTED TO SEE US DO. EVEN IF WE CANNOT GET IT ONTO THE CITY'S WEBSITE IF WE ARE ABLE TO ADVERTISE THIS CALENDAR AND GET PARTNERSHIPS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY TO ADD TO IT, SUCH AS THE INDIVIDUALS AT TURKEY CREEK. I THINK IT'S A GOOD WAY TO INCREASE VISIBILITY AND BRING MORE AVAILABILITY AND AWARENESS TO EVENTS THAT ARE GOING ON IN THE AREA. BECAUSE I KNOW MRC HAS THEIR OWN CALENDAR AND TURKEY CREEK HAS THEIR OWN CALENDAR AND THE CITY HAS THEIR OWN CALENDAR AND LITTLE GROWERS HAS THEIR OWN CALENDAR. THERE'S NO CENTRALIZED POINT THAT ALLOWS ALL THESE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS. [00:40:03] I'M SURE CONRADINA HAS THEIR OWN CALENDAR. THERE'S NO CENTRALIZED LOCATION TO BRING THEM ALL TOGETHER TO WHERE THE PUBLIC CAN GO. I LOOK AT ONE THING AND FIND EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY. SO I KIND OF TOOK IT UPON MYSELF TO JUST DO THAT BECAUSE I WAS A LITTLE BIT BORED AND HAD SOME TIME ON MY HANDS. SO WITH THAT IF WE'RE ABLE TO DRAW THAT ATTENTION TO TURKEY CREEK EVENTS AND GET MORE VOLUNTEERS FOR THERE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN. DO WE HAVE ANY ACTIONABLE DISCUSSION THAT, ANY IDEAS THAT WE COULD COME UP WITH AS A BOARD? WELL, I'VE MENTIONED BEFORE, SCHOOLS IS YOUR BEST BET AND WORKING WITH SCIENCE TEACHERS. AND THE SPRINGTIME IS ACTUALLY WHEN A LOT OF THINGS START TO SLOW DOWN. CLASSROOM WISE AND THEY, YOU KNOW, GO OUT ON OUTINGS, WHATEVER, BUT DEVELOPING SOME SORT OF AN EMAILING LIST, LIKE MRC SENDS OUT EMAILS CONSTANTLY. THEY HAVE EVENTS, ANY ORGANIZATION, IF YOU WANT TO RUN THINGS, YOU HAVE TO GET DIRECT TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SOMEWHAT INCLINED TO WANT TO PARTICIPATE. IF WE HAVE EVENTS HERE, LIKE THE, WE HAVE AN, AN EARTH DAY THIS YEAR THAT'S ACTUALLY ONE OF OUR NEW BUSINESS ITEMS ARE ON THIS. THAT WOULD BE A GOOD PLACE TO SIGN PEOPLE UP. YOU KNOW, BUT KIDS ARE THE MOTIVATION FOR MOST PEOPLE IN THIS TOWN, WHETHER IT'S THEIR GRANDCHILDREN OR OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW? IN THE AGE OF COMPUTERS, CREATIVITY IS LIMITED TO AI NOW. AND YOU GOT TO GET PEOPLE DOING THINGS WITH THEIR HANDS AND USING THEIR IMAGINATION. SO I REALLY THINK THE BEST WINDOW TO GETTING ANY OF THIS DONE IS STARTING WITH THE SCHOOLS. I DON'T KNOW, WHAT DO YOU THINK, FRANK? WELL, I THINK THE SCHOOLS ARE A GREAT PLACE. YEAH. AND FOR LOTS OF THINGS, I MEAN KIDS CAN BE VERY ENTHUSIASTIC. JUST BE A MATTER OF OUTREACH, JUST GETTING TO THEM, MAYBE COMING UP WITH AN IDEA THAT THEY COULD YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY COULD DO IS LIKE A FIELD TRIP OR AN OUTING OR SOMETHING. LIKE WHAT I'VE SEEN SCHOOLS DO VERY WELL ARE WHEN THEY HAVE SOME KIND OF CONTEST. SO ALL THE KIDS IN DIFFERENT CLASSES, THEY HAVE A CONTEST AND THE WINNER GETS SOMETHING. AGAIN, NOT TO BE THE NEGATIVE NANCY IN THE ROOM, BUT JUST TRYING TO THINK OF THINGS FROM A REALISTIC LOGISTICAL STANDPOINT. MAYBE STAFF CAN ASSIST WITH THIS. IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE AS A BOARD WOULD BE ABLE TO CREATE A DATABASE OF VOLUNTEERS AND COLLECT THAT INFORMATION? I KNOW THAT'S SENSITIVE INFORMATION THAT THE CITY PROBABLY HAS RULES ON DOING. IS THERE A DEPARTMENT THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO PARTNER WITH WITHIN THE CITY THAT WOULD HANDLE CREATING A VOLUNTEER DATABASE? AND A SUSTAINABILITY EMAIL LIST? THAT WE COULD. I KNOW WE'VE ASKED AD NAUSEUM FOR PUBLIC INFORMATION FOR VARIOUS THINGS, BUT A LOT OF THE IDEAS WE TALK ABOUT ARE THERE'S ALWAYS FACEBOOK. THERE IS, AND I'VE CREATED MY FACEBOOK PAGE, UNFORTUNATELY. YEAH, THERE'S ALWAYS FACEBOOK. THERE'S ALWAYS THE YOU CAN ALWAYS KEEP AN EXCEL FILE THAT'S GOT PEOPLE THAT YOU MEET. SO LIKE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE CITY IS DOING RIGHT NOW IS THE STREET BEATS NEEDS COMMUNITY DAY. WE'VE SENT OUT THE DATES FOR EVERYBODY TO HAVE SUSTAINABILITY BOARDS MORE THAN WELCOME TO COME OUT, SET UP A TABLE WITH PUBLIC WORKS. THAT WOULD BE A REALLY COOL TIME TO TALK TO CITIZENS AND MEET PEOPLE THAT ARE LIKE MINDED INDIVIDUALS THAT WOULD WANT TO VOLUNTEER AND DO THINGS. AND YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, TAKE DOWN THEIR INFORMATION MAILING LISTS KIND OF THING, KEEP AN EXCEL SHEET AND THEN BUILD YOUR DATABASE ON PAPER. I'M BASED ON PAST EXPERIENCE. I'M GOING TO GO OUT ON A LIMB AND SAY THAT THE CITY CAN'T ASSIST IN THAT CAPACITY. AGAIN, IT'S SOMETHING I CAN TALK TO. THERE'S NO HARM IN ASKING EVER. BUT PAST EXPERIENCE HAS PROVEN THAT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S IN THE WHEELHOUSE AT THE MOMENT. BUT I AGAIN, USE OTHER RESOURCES LIKE THE COMMUNITY DAYS OR ANY KIND OF EVENTS THAT THE TURKEY CREEK. TALK TO PEOPLE, GET MAILING LISTS, PHONE NUMBERS, NAMES AND MAKE YOUR OWN DATABASE. SO THE JUST TO VENT A LITTLE. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH Y'ALL. Y'ALL HAVE BEEN FANTASTIC. THE GROWING THEME THAT I SEEM TO BE PICKING UP FROM THE CONVERSATIONS IS THAT THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD HAS TO BE TOTALLY SEPARATE FROM THE CITY. AND I KIND OF DON'T FUNDAMENTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT PREMISE. BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING TO DO THINGS ON THE CITY'S BEHALF, BUT THE CITY CANNOT SUPPORT US IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM, IT SEEMS. DO YOU KNOW IF THERE IS A WAY THAT WE CAN. [00:45:03] IT MAY BE A CONVERSATION THAT I MAY NEED TO HAVE WITH SOMEBODY HIGHER UP THE CHAIN ABOUT IT. IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE CAN STRENGTHEN THIS RELATIONSHIP? BECAUSE IT SEEMS THE BOARD IS HAMSTRUNG BY OUR LIMITATIONS AS WE TALK ABOUT. AS MISS STEP HAS SAID, WE WANT TO TURN IDEAS INTO ACTION AND THEN WE COME UP WITH THESE IDEAS AND SUDDENLY WE CAN'T. IT'S BASICALLY ALL ON US TO DO IT ALL BY OURSELVES ENTIRELY. SO I THINK WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO IS THE FACT THAT WE'RE KIND OF STEPPING OUTSIDE THE BOUNDS OF THE RELATIONSHIP AS IT'S SET. SO MOST ADVISORY BOARDS, CITIZEN ADVISORY BOARDS ARE USUALLY JUST THAT. THEY'RE USUALLY ADVISORY BOARDS THAT DO THE RESEARCH. THEY MEET WITH PEOPLE, TALK ABOUT NEW IDEAS THAT COULD BENEFIT THE CITY, AND THEN THEY GO TO COUNCIL AND TRY TO PUSH TO HAVE COUNCIL IN THE CITY. START UP THOSE INITIATIVES. AND IT'S, IT'S NOT WITHOUT RESPECT THAT YOU GUYS ARE MORE ACTION ORIENTED, WHICH IS GREAT. BUT YOU ARE GETTING PROBABLY EXPERIENCING THAT PUSHBACK BECAUSE OF HOW OUTGOING AND ACTION ORIENTED YOU ARE. WHEREAS THE TYPICAL TRADITIONAL CITIZEN ADVISORY BOARD IS JUST MEANT TO TAKE IN THE INFORMATION, GO TO COUNCIL. JUST LIKE WITH THE REMEMBRANCE CARD. I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY THE MOST SUCCESSFUL THING RIGHT NOW THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY DONE STEP BY STEP AS, AS TRADITIONALLY SPEAKING AS POSSIBLE. SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE IT IS. AND AGAIN, IT'S NOT THERE'S NOTHING THAT WE CAN'T SIT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT WITH PEOPLE. BUT I THINK THAT'S WHERE THAT LINE IS. I THINK THERE'S A TRADITIONAL UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT AN ADVISORY BOARD IS, AND THERE'S MORE THAT'S TRYING TO COME OUT OF IT, WHICH IS GREAT. IT'S JUST I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT IS LEGALLY THAT YOU KNOW, WHERE THAT LINE ENDS LEGALLY. AND DEREK, IF THE INFORMATION THAT WE COLLECT FROM CITIZENS OR BRING TO THE TABLE HERE IS NOT SHARED OUTSIDE THIS ROOM, IT'S TOTAL WASTE. YEAH. IT'S EXTREMELY HARD WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT FROM A PROGRESS STANDPOINT, IT IS HARD THAT THE ONLY TIME THAT YOU HAVE TO CONDUCT THIS, THIS, THIS MEETING IS NOW. AND THERE'S THE SUNSHINE LAW, WHICH PROHIBITS YOU FROM SPEAKING ABOUT BUSINESS OUTSIDE OF THE MEETINGS. IT'S VERY HARD. WHICH IS WHY THE MEETINGS SHOULD BE ALL THE TIME IN THE MEETING SHOULD BE UTILIZED TO ITS FULL EXTENT TO GET ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING DONE. COUNCIL MEETINGS SHOULD BE ATTENDED IF YOU CAN GET ON THE DOCKET, IF YOU HAVE EVERYTHING READY TO GO, GET ON THE DOCKET AND THEN TALK TO THEM ABOUT IT. GREAT. IT'S YEAH. IT'S HARD. I'M NOT GOING TO LIE TO YOU AND TELL YOU THAT SITTING ON A SUSTAINABILITY BOARD IS JUST AN EASY PEASY, YOU KNOW? LOOKS GOOD ON THE COLLEGE RESUME, BUT IT'S HARD WORK THAT COULD PAY OFF. IT'S JUST YOU GOT TO GET THERE. SUSTAINABILITY HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH EVERYTHING THAT WE DO IN THIS CITY. IT'S ABOUT AFFORDABILITY AS MUCH AS IT IS ABOUT APPRECIATING THE ENVIRONMENT WE HAVE AND MAINTAINING IT AND MAINTAINING LIFE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE. AND FOR WILDLIFE AND EVERYTHING ELSE. AND KIND OF ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO GET TOGETHER AND, AND WORK ON IT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T COMPLAIN ABOUT HIGH TAXES IF WE EXPECT THE CITY TO BE OUR DADDY AND TAKE CARE OF EVERYTHING. RIGHT? RIGHT. AND JUST KEEP IN MIND TOO, BECAUSE THE ONE THING ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY THAT I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE FORGET IS WE HAVE A LOT OF GOOD WE HAVE NEW DEVELOPMENTS IN SUSTAINABILITY, LIKE THE LED CONFERENCE. MRC HOST HAS A LOT OF REALLY COOL THINGS THAT ARE COMING UP IN SUSTAINABILITY MOVEMENTS. THE PROBLEM WITH LOCAL GOVERNMENT, YOU KNOW, MUNICIPALITIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT IS EVERYBODY'S PLAYING THE SHORT GAME. LOOK AT COUNCIL. COUNCIL ONLY HAS A SHORT TIME TO DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO WHILE THEY'RE SITTING ON THE DAIS BEFORE ANOTHER GROUP OF PEOPLE WITH THEIR IDEAS COME IN AND PARTICULARLY CHANGE EVERYTHING. THE ONLY DOWNSIDE TO SUSTAINABILITY IS THAT IT BENEFITS IN THE LONG RUN. SO THAT GOES PAST A LOT OF THE CITY'S TIME THAT IT HAS TO DO THINGS WITH THE COUNCILS THAT IT HAS. SO THAT'S WHY SUSTAINABILITY IS EXTREMELY HARD BECAUSE NOBODY IS LOOKING IN AT THE, YOU KNOW, AT THE LONG RUN, THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE NOW. YEAH, EXACTLY. SO IT'S ALL A TIME GAME. BUT LIKE I SAID, EXCUSE ME, LIKE I SAID, ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT TO KNOW ABOUT OR ANY KIND OF DISCUSSION YOU WANT TO HAVE, JUST LET ME KNOW. I'LL, I'LL TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHO COULD BEST ANSWER THAT FOR YOU. AND WE'LL. I HAVE ONE QUESTION ON, ON. SORRY. LYDIA. ROGUE VALLEY IS GOING TO BE OPENING. IT'S A CHIP MANUFACTURING PLANT. THE AVERAGE CHIP MANUFACTURING PLANT USES BETWEEN 100 MILLION GALLONS TO 250 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY. WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO GET IT FROM? AND IF THEY'RE NOT MANDATED TO REUSE WHATEVER WATER SUPPLY THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, DO THEIR OWN CLEANING BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THEY CLEAN IT TO GET THE LOOSE METALS OFF. THEY HAVE TO HAVE SOME SORT OF A MECHANISM TO DO THAT. SO SHOULDN'T THAT BE ADDRESSED WITH ONE OF THE OTHER BOARDS THAT ARE CODE ENFORCEMENT OR INFRASTRUCTURE OR WHATEVER. [00:50:09] SO P AND Z, I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW WHO TO GO TO, BUT THAT HAS TO BE ADDRESSED BECAUSE FROM I WASN'T ABLE TO GET TO, YOU KNOW, THE NEW WELL MEETING BECAUSE I WAS I'M ON THE CHARTER REVIEW BOARD AND IT WAS AT THE SAME TIME, I WOULD HAVE LIKED TO SEE IT TO UNDERSTAND, BUT FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD, IT'S NOT GOING TO PRODUCE ENOUGH WATER FOR THAT ONE FACILITY. WHAT'S IT GOING TO DO FOR 150,000 PEOPLE IF I MAY STEP IN? THIS IS A GREAT DISCUSSION, BUT I THINK WE'RE KIND OF DRIFTING FAR AWAY FROM WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW WE MAKE IT USEFUL. BUT IF WE COULD BRING THAT BACK UP IN THE BOARD REPORT SECTION A LITTLE BIT LATER, I THINK. ALL RIGHT. I THINK WE CAN REVISIT THAT AT THIS TIME. JUST A SECOND. WE'LL. MISS HIGGINS, DID YOU HAVE SOME THOUGHTS ON THE THE TRYING TO GET BACK ON TOP FOR THE VOLUNTEERS FOR INVASIVE. I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST THAT I KNOW YOU'RE FRIENDS WITH BILL DELUCIA AND HE'S ON THE ATLANTIC ADVISORY SUSTAINABILITY BOARD. MAYBE IF WE, IF YOU WERE TO COMPARE STRUCTURE AND PROCESSES. YEAH. AND PROCESSES AND KIND OF HOW THEY WORK. I KNOW THEY ACTUALLY GET A BUDGET. FOR PLANTINGS AND WHATNOT. SO YOU KNOW, JUST BE INTERESTING TO KIND OF COMPARE NOTES THERE. YEAH. THAT WAS KIND OF, KIND OF TIES BACK TO WHAT MR. MORTON HAD TALKED ABOUT EARLY ON WHEN I FIRST JOINED THE SUSTAINABILITY IS TRYING TO FIND PROJECTS. AND ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE IDENTIFIED POTENTIALLY WAS GOING TO FIT AND HAVING THEM OR SOMEBODY AND HAVING THEM DO A COMPARISON STUDY THAT KIND OF SEEMS TO HAVE FALLEN BY THE WAYSIDE, RIGHT? BUT IF WE CAN, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO TRY TO TRY TO REENGAGE WITH THAT IDEA. AND JUST TALK ABOUT, YEAH, I CAN TALK TO BILL. I CAN ALWAYS TALK TO BILL. I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THIS TIME, MISS BARBOUR. LYDIA BARBOUR 1638 FALK TERRACE, SOUTHEAST, TALKING ABOUT PROJECTS. WHEN I FIRST MET ABOUT GLASS RECYCLING WITH MR. MORTON, HE SAID TO ME, LET'S DO IT THROUGH THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD. THIS IS A PROJECT THAT HE SPECIFICALLY DIRECTED ME TO COME TO THIS BOARD TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. SO I THINK YOU'VE GOT SOME SUPPORT, BUT THERE ARE HURDLES APPARENTLY WITHIN THE GOVERNMENT ITSELF THAT HAVE TO BE DEALT WITH. SO WHATEVER YOU CAN DO TO HELP US FIGURE OUT. ALL RIGHT. HE SAID WE SHOULD DO THIS AND WE'RE TRYING TO DO IT. HOW CAN WE DO IT IF IF WE HAVE ALL THESE HURDLES? SO HOW DO WE GET PAST THEM? THANK YOU. I THINK WHAT I WAS PICKING UP EARLIER FROM WHAT WAS SAID, IS THAT WE AS A BOARD NEED TO REDIRECT OUR FOCUS ONCE WE COME UP WITH AN IDEA. KIND OF LIKE MISS ZEPP WAS SAYING, TAKE AN ACTIONABLE ITEM, PASS A MOTION, AND PRESENT THESE ITEMS TO COUNCIL. I DIDN'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS GETTING THE REMEMBRANCE GARDEN ON THE DOCKET. SO I IMAGINE IF WE ARE ABLE TO BRING THESE THINGS FORWARD THROUGH THAT CHANNEL TO THE LEGISLATIVE WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO WORK WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, ESPECIALLY IF THEY ARE ON BOARD WITH THE IDEA TO GET IT ON THE DOCKET AND PRESENT IT TO COUNCIL AND GO THAT ROUTE. I THINK THAT SEEMS TO BE WHERE OUR DISCONNECT MIGHT BE RIGHT NOW IS WE WANT TO TAKE ACTION. WE NEED TO GO FUNNEL THAT ACTION. WE, WE TAKE ACTION, BUT FUNNEL THAT ACTION AT THE LEGISLATOR AND TRY TO GET THEM TO SAY, YES, CITY STAFF SHOULD WORK ON X, Y, AND Z WITH US. I THINK THAT SEEMS TO BE THE PATH THAT I'M PICKING UP ON THERE. SO WITH THAT IN MIND I WILL PASS THE GAVEL OFF TO THE STANDING VICE CHAIR. THAT WAY I CAN MAKE A MOTION. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE UP A DISCUSSION TO CITY COUNCIL ABOUT SUPPORTING THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD WITH PUBLIC INFORMATION ON BEING ABLE TO ACCESS THE WEBSITE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. IF WE NEED TO MAKE A PRESENTATION. SO AGAIN, TO KIND OF SUMMARIZE THE MOTION I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CREATE A PRESENTATION TO PRESENT TO CITY COUNCIL REGARDING THE CITY'S COMMITMENT AND AVAILABILITY TO ASSIST THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD WITH ITS EDUCATION EFFORTS. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. OKAY. DO WE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. MOTION PASSES FOUR ZERO. THANK YOU. SO WE HAVE THAT ON THE SCHEDULE NOW. [00:55:04] SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER THREE WHICH IS REMEMBRANCE GARDEN UPDATES. MISS HIGGINS, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO. SO WE GOT THE GRANT SUBMITTED TO THE FLORIDA WILDFLOWER FOUNDATION ON THEIR DEADLINE, AND I WANTED TO SAY SUPER THANKS TO TANYA HOLDER HOLDER WITH THE CITY BECAUSE SHE REALLY HELPED OUT ON THAT A LOT, PROVIDED A LOT OF GOOD INPUT, GOT ALL THE DATA THAT WE NEEDED FROM THE CITY. AND SHE HAS A 100% COPY OF WHAT WAS SUBMITTED. SO SHE'S GOT IT. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS SHE HAS HAS THE DOCUMENT. SO AND THEN I DID PUT MY NAME ON THERE AS THE CONTACT AND IF WE GET IT, I WILL SWITCH THAT TO DOUG AS THE CONTACT. SO WE HEAR ABOUT THAT. I THINK IT WAS ME 1ST OR MAY 15TH. SOMETIME IN MAY IS WHEN WE HEAR ABOUT IT. SO THAT WAS UP TO $3,000. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS TO BRING UP ON THE UPDATES WOULD BE THAT I WAS ABLE TO, I THINK I TALKED ABOUT IT THE LAST BOARD MEETING THE DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE PRESENTED SOME INFORMATION ABOUT LOWE'S BEING ABLE TO POTENTIALLY HELP FUND THE GARDEN. SO I WAS ABLE TO PUT IN A SUBMISSION FOR THAT. THAT PROCESS IS GOING TO BE PLAYING OUT. I'M UNSURE OF THE TIMEFRAME ON THAT. THAT WOULD BE GOING THROUGH A COMMUNITY PARTNER. WE DID TALK WITH CONRADINA CHAPTER OF THE NATIVE PLANT SOCIETY. THEY WERE GOING TO STEP IN AS OUR 501 C3 COMMUNITY PARTNER. BECAUSE THAT LOWE'S GRANT DOES GO THROUGH THAT 501 C3 FIRST. SO I THINK CONRADINA HAS GRACEFULLY DECIDED TO ASSIST US AGAIN FURTHER WITH THIS PROJECT. SO HOPEFULLY WE GET THAT FUNDING ON THERE. BEYOND THAT I DON'T WANT TO BEAT A DEAD HORSE. WE ARE KIND OF ON A WAIT AND SEE PATTERN. FOR THE REMEMBRANCE GARDEN. UNTIL WE HAVE THE FUNDING, WE DON'T WANT TO PRESENT IT AGAIN TO COUNCIL. SO I THINK AT THIS POINT, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY ACTIONABLE ITEMS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE REMEMBRANCE GARDENS AT THIS TIME? I HAVE A QUESTION. SO WHEN YOU WHEN YOU DID YOUR EXCELLENT PRESENTATION TO CITY COUNCIL THEY SAID THAT WE'RE ONE OF THE COUNCILMAN SAID IT'S GREAT TIMING BECAUSE WE'RE AT THE BEGINNING OF A BUDGET CYCLE. IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD SUBMIT JUST AS A BACKUP TO GET INTO THE BUDGET CYCLE? POTENTIALLY. I DO KNOW THAT YOU ARE CORRECT. THAT WAS DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE THAT MADE THAT PRESENTATION. HE BASICALLY SAID, WE'RE ON THE 6 OR 7 YARD LINE JUST WAITING TO PUNCH IT IN. JUST IN CASE ALL THE GRANTS FALL THROUGH, YOU KNOW, THAT WE COULD NOT HAVE TO START COMPLETELY OVER AGAIN. ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT I NOTICED, AND IT WAS A GREAT THING THAT THE CITY DECIDED THEY WERE GOING TO DO, IS THEY WERE THEY HAVE A TREE FUND WHERE THEY WERE GOING TO PLANT SOME TREES AND WITH THE INTO THE DOG PARK AT OUR MEMORIAL PARK. IF WE COULD POTENTIALLY ACCESS THAT TREE FUND AND USE A SMALL PORTION OF THAT TREE FUND TO GET SOME OF THE LARGER TREES THAT ARE, WOULD FIT THAT DESCRIPTION ON THERE. THAT MAY BE SOMETHING TO LOOK INTO. AS FOR THE BUDGET ITEM, DEREK, DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW A PROCESS ABOUT THAT? I DON'T BECAUSE I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT BUDGET IT WOULD COME FROM. YEAH, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OUTSIDE OF MY PURVIEW. YEAH, I DON'T KNOW. IS THERE ANY DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW OF ANY COMMUNITY INSIGHTS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR OR FY 27 CYCLE? I KNOW THAT OCCASIONALLY THERE ARE WORKSHOPS, BUT I DON'T KNOW OF ANY OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD THAT ARE COMING INTO PLAY. I DON'T EITHER, UNFORTUNATELY. OKAY. NO. CAN WE TRY SUBMITTING IT THROUGH PUBLIC WORKS? BECAUSE THEY DO PLANTINGS AND WHATNOT. I MEAN, I'M JUST TAKING A STAB IN THE DARK HERE. YEAH, IT'S AS GOOD. AS GOOD AS ANY. YEAH, I SUPPOSE. YEAH. YEAH. LET ME LET ME WRITE THAT DOWN AND ASK SOME QUESTIONS AND GET IT BACK TO YOU. YEAH. I MEAN, I THINK, I THINK ALL THE INFORMATION IS THERE AND THE PRESENTATION THAT WILL BE NEEDED. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. IF WE GET I MEAN, THAT KIND OF JUST IN GENERAL WOULD PROBABLY ASSIST THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD LONG TERM KNOWING HOW TO WORK BUDGET ITEMS OR REQUEST BUDGET ITEMS BECAUSE I MEAN, I KNOW WE CAN KEEP GOING UP TO CITY COUNCIL, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO ASK CITY COUNCIL QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT KIND OF A MANNER. SO I DON'T KNOW WHO OR HOW WE WOULD WORK AROUND THAT. LIKE IF I JUST WALK UP TO CITY COUNCIL AND DO A PRESENTATION AND ASK THEM, HOW DO I GET ON THE BUDGET? THAT DOESN'T SEEM WELL, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WOULD. [01:00:07] I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU CAN'T. OKAY. I SUPPOSE THEY DON'T HAVE BUDGET, DO THEY? CITY COUNCIL PER SE. THEY JUST ARE GOING TO SAY GO FIGURE IT OUT WITH WHATEVER DEPARTMENT. I THOUGHT CITY COUNCIL HAD TO APPROVE BUDGETS. THEY DO, BUT DOESN'T. ISN'T THERE A BID PROCESS AND EVERYTHING THAT GOES THROUGH LIKE ALL THAT? SOME. I GUESS THE QUESTION IS WHO DEVELOPS THE BUDGET FOR THEM TO. THAT IS PRESENTED TO THEM IS THAT EACH INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENT. I THOUGHT IT WAS EACH INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENT COLLECTING OR, YOU KNOW, COLLECTING THE INFORMATION FOR THEIR BUDGET AND THEN SUBMITTING IT TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL. OKAY. YEAH. SO IF SOMEONE GOES TO CITY COUNCIL AND SAYS, WE'D LOVE TO GET SOME MONEY AND CITY COUNCIL SAYS YES, THEN THEY HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE APPROPRIATE DEPARTMENT TO SEE IF THERE IS THAT MONEY, RIGHT. SO YEAH, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE. YES, YES. I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME. I HAVE THE SAME QUESTION ABOUT REPUBLIC CONTRACT VIOLATIONS. IF THAT MONEY IS SUPPOSED TO BE USED FOR THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD TO FUND THINGS, THEN WHAT? WHAT MONEY WAS COLLECTED THIS PAST FISCAL YEAR? AND IS THAT MONEY THEN GOING TO BE GIVEN TO THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD TO USE? AND HOW DO YOU FIND THAT OUT? THANK YOU. WELL, AND REALLY QUICK. AND AGAIN, I WASN'T THERE FOR THE CONVERSATION. BUT I BELIEVE IN YOUR INITIAL STATEMENT YOU HAD SAID THAT MR. MORTON SAID THAT THOSE FUNDS COULD BE USED. I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY THEY ARE. SPECIFICALLY BEING USED AS OF RIGHT NOW FOR SUSTAINABILITY. AGAIN, I THINK WE JUST START ASKING QUESTIONS, FIND PEOPLE THAT CAN HELP US OUT AND SEE WHAT ANSWERS WE CAN GET. OKAY. BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO, THAT WAS GOING TO BE KIND OF MY FOLLOW UP TO HER QUESTION IS WE AS THE BOARD DON'T KNOW WHO TO TALK TO FOR THAT MONEY. AND YEAH, IT SOUNDS LIKE SENDING AN EMAIL BLAST TO THE ENTIRE CITY, ASKING THEM WHERE THE FUNDS ARE FOR REPUBLIC SERVICES MIGHT NOT BE THE BEST COURSE OF ACTION. A LITTLE ABRASIVE, BUT LIKE, I LIKE THE LIKE THE ENERGY. YEAH. LET ME LET ME LOOK INTO IT AND GET A LITTLE BIT MORE FAMILIAR WITH THE FINANCIAL PROCESS ON THE BACK END. SEE WHO TO TALK TO AND SEE WHO CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION FOR US. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. OKAY. I HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT THE DOG PARK BUDGET FOR FOR TREES FOR SIX INCH TREES IS $22,000. FOR OAKS, I. I KNOW THAT THERE ARE FAST GROWING TREES THAT WILL PROVIDE THE SAME CANOPIES. THAT MIGHT HELP THERE AND WOULD SAVE A LOT OF MONEY. YOU DON'T NEED A VERY BIG PLAN, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE HANDLED BY REGULAR GARDENERS. WHEREAS THESE OAK TREES. THE. IT REQUIRES AT LEAST FOUR FEET IN DEPTH FOR THE. BECAUSE OAK TREES HAVE TWO TYPES OF ROOT SYSTEMS, THEY HAVE A TAPROOT AND THEN THEY HAVE A BRANCHING ROOT THAT IS TYPICALLY THE WIDTH OF WHATEVER THE, THE BRANCHES ABOVE GROUND ARE. SO IT'S TYPICALLY PLANTED IN FOUR FEET DEEP, 54IN WIDE. AND UNTIL IT SETTLES, IT CAN STILL FALL OVER. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE GETTING GUARANTEES ON THESE, BUT THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS. AND TO ME THEY COULD SAVE A LOT OF MONEY BY TRYING SOMETHING ELSE THAT CAN GROW SIX FEET A YEAR. SO BY THE SECOND YEAR THEY'RE READY TO PUT THEM IN BECAUSE BY THE TIME THEY THEY DO THIS, IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE ANOTHER YEAR OR TWO ANYWAY. I DON'T KNOW, I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE BECAUSE IF YOU'VE EVER, I CUT DOWN ONE OF MY OAK TREES AND THIS MUCH OF IT WAS REALLY HEAVY TRYING TO HAVE YOU NEED A MAJOR EQUIPMENT TO PUT THESE THINGS IN THE GROUND. WHILE OAK TREES ARE RELIABLE, WE HAVE THEM ALL OVER THE PLACE. IF WE COULD JUST PICK ONE UP AND TRANSPLANT IT, THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE CHEAPER. BUT IT'S THE AMOUNT OF EQUIPMENT AND MANPOWER TO GET THAT DONE WOULD BE FORMIDABLE. SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A SUGGESTION THAT MAYBE THEY LOOK INTO SOME FAST GROWING TREES. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THEM THAT CAN PROVIDE THE KIND OF CANOPY THAT THAT WOULD GIVE THE SHADE THE PEOPLE WHO WERE WALKING THE DOGS IN THE DOG PARK ARE HOPING FOR. THANK YOU. I WILL SAY THAT THAT ITEM WAS DISCUSSED. IT WAS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, AND IT WAS ACTUALLY PULLED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND DISCUSSED AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING. SO A LOT OF YOUR SUGGESTIONS THAT YOU JUST MADE HAD [01:05:04] ACTUALLY BEEN TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION BEFORE THE VOTE AT THE LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING. YEAH, I'LL NEVER VOTE AGAINST AN OAK TREE, THOUGH. SO, OKAY, SINCE I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE A MOTION FOR AN ACTIONABLE ITEM ON NUMBER TOPIC NUMBER THREE, NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER THREE. WE WILL MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER FOUR WITH THIS EARTH MONTH PLANS AND UPDATES. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS OR IDEAS ON WHAT THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD COULD TRY TO DO? FOR EARTH DAY. OR EARTH MONTH. COLLECT NAMES OF WHO'S INTERESTED IN IT. PUT TOGETHER A BROCHURE OR A FLIER OR SOMETHING AND START TALKING ABOUT HOW IT CAN BE IMPLEMENTED IN SCHOOLS. YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE WHO SHOW UP THERE, ASK THEM IF, IF THEY THINK THEIR SCHOOL WOULD BE INTERESTED IN, IN HAVING SOME PROJECTS WITH US. I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S YOUR BEST START. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, TALKING TO DIFFERENT GROUPS LIKE MRC AND WHOEVER AND ASKING THEM TO HELP US WITH MAILING LISTS SO WE CAN GET THE WORD OUT. IS THE CITY GOING TO THE EARTH DAY EVENT AT L3? HARRIS. I KNOW CONRADINA IS I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING FROM P, I O OR, OR UPPER MANAGEMENT ABOUT IT, BUT IT'S, IT'S NOT A BAD IDEA. I DIDN'T KNOW THEY WERE HOSTING ONE MYSELF. I DIDN'T CONNECT THAT, BUT YEAH, CONNOR WAS GOING TO IT. YEAH. TYPICALLY L3 HARRIS WOULD PUT IN A REQUEST FOR A COUNCIL MEMBER THE THE MAYOR TO BE THERE AND STUFF LIKE THAT. I KNOW THEY, THEY, THAT'S HOW THEY MAKE APPEARANCES AT THOSE EVENTS. SO IT MAY BE, BUT WE WOULDN'T KNOW ABOUT THAT. WOULD IT BE PUBLIC WORKS THAT WOULD GO, IT WOULD MOST LIKELY BE THE MAYOR OR COUNCIL. OH, THAT THEY WOULD REQUEST. IS THAT SOMETHING THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE MIGHT KNOW? IF THERE HAS BEEN A REQUEST FOR ONE OF THOSE, AND WHETHER OR NOT WE COULD REACH OUT TO WHOEVER THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE CITY IS AND SEE IF THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD COULD GET A TAGALONG INVITE WITH WHOEVER THAT REPRESENTATIVE IS. YEAH, THEY THEY MAY KNOW. YEAH. OKAY. I CAN TELL YOU THE DAY OF IT HERE. YES, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. I THINK IT'S OH, I THINK THEY'RE ACTUALLY DOING IT LITERALLY ON EARTH DAY, WHICH ALSO HAPPENS TO BE OUR NEXT SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD MEETING. OH. OH YEAH, IT'S ON THE 22ND, RIGHT? THAT EXACT SAME DAY. DO YOU WANT ME TO SEND SOMEBODY THE CONTACT FROM THERE THAT CONTACTED CONRADINA? I THINK WHAT I'LL TRY TO DO JUST BECAUSE WE AREN'T SURE WHETHER OR NOT THE CITY HAS BEEN CONTACTED BEFORE AND WE, AS A SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD PROBABLY CAN'T INVOLVE OURSELVES. I'LL TRY TO REACH OUT TO THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AND SEE WHETHER OR NOT L3 HARRIS HAS ASKED FOR CITY REPRESENTATION AND WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN GET A TAG ALONG ON THAT. YEAH. BECAUSE THEY HAVE THEIR I'M SORRY, THEY'RE CONFIRMING THEIR LIST FOR THE SECURITY CHECK. SO THAT'S WHERE THEY ARE? YEAH. JANE, I'M SORRY. I MIGHT HAVE MISSED THAT. WAS THAT THE WAS THAT A CONTACT FOR L3 HARRIS FOR THE EVENT OR WAS THAT FROM DINA? WELL, THEY CONTACTED. THEY CONTACTED CONRADINA. SO I CAN GIVE YOU THAT INFORMATION IF YOU WANT IT. YEAH, YEAH. AND THEN ON THE BACK END, I'LL DOUBLE CHECK AND SEE IF THE CITY'S GOT ANY KIND OF INVITE. AND IF NOT, I'LL TALK TO THE. YEAH. CONTACT. YEAH. OKAY. THAT'D BE GREAT. THANKS. EXCELLENT. SO WE CAN PASS THAT ALONG TO DEREK FOR THAT INFORMATION. KIND OF TO GET BACK TO MISS SAP'S POINT ON THERE THE, LIKE WE SAID, THE EARTH DAY IS ON. 422 I WOULD LIKE TO REACH OUT AND SEE IF I CAN'T FIND SOMEBODY TO DO A PRESENTATION FOR EARTH DAY AT OUR SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD MEETING ON. 422. THE HESITATION THAT I HAVE AT THIS TIME IS THAT WE ARE UNSURE WHAT THE MAKEUP OF THE BOARD IS GOING TO BE AND WHETHER OR NOT WE WILL HAVE QUORUM. SO AS MUCH AS I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE HUGE PLANS OR EVEN SMALL PLANS FOR EARTH DAY ON 422 WITH OUR SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD MEETING, I THINK IT MIGHT BEHOOVE US TO TAKE A CAUTIONARY APPROACH. SEEING AS THOUGH WE DON'T KNOW IF THERE WILL BE NEW APPOINTEES WHETHER OR NOT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO MAKE THE MEETING, WHETHER OR NOT WE WILL HAVE QUORUM. THERE'S A LOT UP IN THE AIR FOR THE, THE CURRENT APRIL 22ND MEETING. THERE IS ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST THOUGH, IS IF WE COULD GET A PRESENTER AT FOR OUR, [01:10:03] FOR EARTH DAY FOR THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD I WOULD BE ABLE TO ATTEND WITH PUBLIC WORKS, THE TREATS, BEATS AND EATS. AND THEN WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET A CONTACT LIST GOING. AND I MAY EVEN TRY TO DO IT AT TREATS, BEATS AND EATS ANYWAYS TO GET A CONTACT LIST FOR VOLUNTEERS FOR THEY A SUSTAINABILITY BOARD MAILING LIST. THAT WAY WE CAN TRY TO GET SOME KIND OF OUTREACH GOING WITH THAT. I KNOW I HAVE EXPERIENCE WORKING WITH MAILCHIMP IN A PRIOR JOB. SO BEING ABLE TO KIND OF UTILIZE THAT PLATFORM MIGHT BE ABLE TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN WORK ON. UNFORTUNATELY, WITH THE BOARD BEING UP IN THE AIR FOR APRIL WITH THE CHANGEOVER AND BOARD MEMBERS WE'RE GOING TO BE DOWN TWO OF OUR CURRENT MEMBERS HERE TODAY. WE HAVE TWO AT LARGE POSITIONS THAT ARE GOING TO BE COMING INTO PLAY TODAY. TWO THAT ARE HERE TODAY WON'T BE HERE AT THE 422 MEETING NEXT MONTH. YES. MISS JANE, SHE'S STEPPING DOWN. GOING TO BE THIS IS OUR LAST BOARD MEETING WITH US, AND THEN MR. ABBOTT IS NOT GOING TO BE AVAILABLE FOR NEXT MONTH. OH, THAT'S RIGHT, THAT'S RIGHT. SO THEN WE HAVE TWO NEW AT LARGE POSITIONS. POTENTIALLY WE MAY HAVE MISS HIGGINS'S SEAT REFILLED BY THAT TIME. WE JUST DON'T KNOW. AND IF WE, WE CAN'T GET FOUR BOARD MEMBERS FOR QUORUM IT, I DON'T WANT TO BE CREATING A MASSIVE MEETING THAT WE JUST DON'T HAVE. YEAH. THESE BOARDS, THEY HAVE TO HAVE PEOPLE THAT SHOW UP. IT JUST DRIVES ME CRAZY. YEAH. SO AT THIS TIME, I THINK WE WILL MOVE ON FROM NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER FOUR. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY ACTIONABLE TO TAKE ON THERE. LIKE I SAID, AT THIS POINT I'M JUST GOING TO GO TO TREAT SPEEDS AND EATS. ON APRIL 10TH WITH PUBLIC WORKS, IF THEY WILL HAVE ME AND WE WILL GATHER WHAT INFORMATION WE CAN. AND HOPEFULLY YOU'LL BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THAT IN THE FUTURE. ALL RIGHT, SO THAT MOVES US ON TO OTHER BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER ONE BOARD REPORTS. [OTHER BUSINESS] MR. ABBOTT, DO YOU HAVE A BOARD REPORT FOR THIS MONTH? YES, I'M JUST CONTINUING TO WORK ON AN IDEA I BROUGHT UP LAST MONTH ABOUT LIKE THE MOST SUSTAINABLE BUILDING IN PALM BAY. SO RIGHT NOW, I'M JUST GATHERING UP ALL THE BUILDINGS THAT HAVE ACHIEVED SOME SORT OF A GREEN CERTIFICATION IN PALM BAY, AND THEN JUST WANT TO FORM A CONTEXT OF AN IDEA ON HOW WE MAY BE ABLE TO ADVISE THE CITY ON SOME SORT OF A CONTEST OR SOMETHING THAT THEY COULD PROMOTE. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. MISS HIGGINS, I WILL. I, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. I JUST WANTED TO SAY IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE SERVING ON THE BOARD AND WORKING WITH THE CITY AND GETTING TO KNOW THE CITY FOLKS. I SAID GOODBYE TO JESS ALREADY, BUT THANK YOU GUYS FOR ALL YOU DO. YEP. WELCOME. IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE SERVING YOU, JANE, AND BEING YOUR LAST MEETING. I WOULD LIKE TO PERSONALLY THANK YOU FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE WITH EVERYTHING WE'VE DONE ALONG THE WAY. I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN ON THIS BOARD FOR QUITE SOME TIME, AND YOU HAVE BEEN AN ACTIVE KIND OF LYNCHPIN MEMBER OF IT, ALONG WITH MISS CONNELLY AND MISS ZEIGLER, WHO IS NO LONGER ON THE BOARD WITH US. SO I JUST WANTED TO SEND THAT OUT THERE THAT I APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK Y'ALL TOOK IN BUILDING THE BOARD AND GIVING ME A SOLID FOUNDATION TO KIND OF STEP IN AND HOPEFULLY TRY TO TRY TO RUN FORWARD WITH IT AND KEEP THIS THING GOING WITH A LOT OF MOMENTUM FOR IT IN THE FUTURE. ALL RIGHT. DO YOU HAVE A REPORT? YES. BY THE WAY, JANE, WE'RE GOING TO MISS YOU. I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT PFAS EXTRACTION. I FOUND THAT, AND I'VE BEEN DOING MY OWN EXPERIMENTS WITH THIS PFAS. IF YOU BUY GALLONS OF WATER IN THOSE GRAYISH COLOR PLASTICS, ANY PLASTIC THAT BENDS. IT EMITS THESE REALLY MICROSCOPIC PLASTICS. OKAY. THAT'S, THAT'S THE PFAS THING. CHIA SEEDS. I'VE BEEN EXPERIMENTING WITH THROWING, SAY, A TEASPOON IN A GALLON AND WATCHING BECAUSE CHIA SEEDS, THEY WERE KIND OF LIKE STICKY SAND. THEY EXPAND AND FOR SOME REASON THE PLASTIC IS ATTRACTED TO IT. SO I FOUND I HAD TO DO AT LEAST TWO FILTERS. THE FIRST ONE WORKED PRETTY WELL AND I LEFT IT THERE FOR ABOUT EIGHT HOURS. I TRIED IN ROOM TEMPERATURE AND I TRIED IT IN REFRIGERATION AND IT DIDN'T SEEM TO MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE THERE. SO I THINK AT ROOM TEMPERATURE IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO. AND IF WE FIGURE OUT A WAY TO DO THAT IN OUR FILTRATION SYSTEM, IT'LL IT'LL HELP A LOT BECAUSE THE DANGERS OF PFAS IS THEY [01:15:03] PENETRATE THE BLOOD BRAIN BARRIER, THEY WILL COAT YOUR NEURONS AND AND EVEN THE NERVES IN YOUR EYES, WHICH IT CONTRIBUTES TO ALZHEIMER'S BLINDNESS AND, YOU KNOW, JUST PEOPLE'S ABILITY TO FUNCTION, BUT IT IS THAT SMALL. YOU CAN'T STRAIN IT OUT. SO THE ONLY THING YOU CAN DO IS FIND SOMETHING THAT IT WILL STICK TO. SO I'M HOPING I'M STILL DOING MY EXPERIMENTS, BUT I'M HOPING WE CAN COME UP WITH A PRACTICAL WAY BECAUSE CHIA SEEDS ARE VERY INEXPENSIVE. IT DOESN'T TAKE A LOT OF THEM. THEY EXPAND, I WOULD SAY PROBABLY ALMOST TEN TIMES THEIR SIZE. WHEN THEY, THEY OPEN UP AND START ATTACHING TO THESE THINGS. SO I'M HOPING THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT IN THE FUTURE. AND IT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO THE THE WATER PERSON HERE AND SEE IF WE CAN. WHEN I TALKED TO THIS SOIL SPECIALIST JIM ARCHULETA FROM, I THINK WASHINGTON STATE, HE DOES FEDERAL CONTRACTS ON ON SOIL. HE RECOMMENDS HAVING LIKE A THREE PONDING SYSTEM WHERE YOU FILTER FOR ONE THING, LIKE IT MIGHT BE BIOCHAR IN ONE. AND THEN FOR THE PLASTICS WOULD BE THE LAST ONE BECAUSE YOU WANT TO GET ALL THAT STUFF OUT FIRST. YOU DON'T WANT OTHER GARBAGE ATTACHING TO THE CHIA SEEDS. YOU WANT TO GET AS MUCH PLASTIC OUT OF IT AS POSSIBLE. WE'RE IN A REALLY BAD STATE AS FAR AS PLASTICS BECAUSE WE HAVE IT IN ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING. AND IF YOU WANT TO BUY BOTTLED WATER MADE WITH GLASS, IT'S LIKE TEN BUCKS FOR A LEADER, YOU KNOW? I GREW UP AND EVERYTHING WAS IN GLASS. THAT'S HOW OLD I AM. IT'S JUST BEEN AROUND A REALLY LONG TIME. IT'S DISAPPOINTING, BUT YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO GET. WELL. I SHOULDN'T SAY NEVER, BUT GETTING, COMPANIES TO GO BACK TO GLASS. YOU KNOW, THE PRODUCTION IS EXPENSIVE AND IT'S TIME CONSUMING. PLASTIC IS OUT THERE MUCH FASTER. I'M TRYING TO CHECK DIFFERENT TYPES OF PLASTIC AND SEE WHICH ONE BLEEDS THE FAS THE MOST. AT THIS POINT, I'M SEEING THAT IT'S MORE IF IT'S EASY TO CRUSH, THOSE ARE THE MOST DANGEROUS, AND IT'S PRETTY MUCH IN EVERY ONE OF THESE LITTLE BOTTLES, ONE OF WHICH I'M CARRYING HERE. YOU SQUEEZE IT AND IT SQUIRTS ALL OVER THE PLACE. SO I WOULD LIKE US TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST TRYING TO REMEDIATE THE PFAS IN OUR WATER SUPPLY. AND LAST MONTH, I ALSO, I TALKED ABOUT THE NILE MONITOR LIZARD AND I THINK I ASKED IF WE COULD GET SOME KIND OF A NOTIFICATION OUT ON THAT WITH A PICTURE. I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE THEY PROPAGATE QUICKLY AND THEY'RE EXTREMELY DANGEROUS. PEOPLE NEED TO AT LEAST KNOW WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE. AND THEY HAVE BEEN FOUND IN BREVARD. SO IF WE CAN GET SOME RESOLUTION ON THAT PUT IT ON A WEBSITE OR WHEREVER, BUT OR PUT FLIERS OUT. BUT AGAIN, THAT'S ANOTHER THING. IT'S AN INVASIVE SPECIES. I WILL LIKE TO COMMENT ON THAT. ACTUALLY, MY, WHEN I CREATED AFTER WE SPOKE ABOUT NATIONAL INVASIVE SPECIES AWARENESS WEEK AND TALKED ABOUT OUR, THE LIMITATIONS OF THE BOARD AND BEING ABLE TO PLATFORM OURSELVES THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA. I DID GO THROUGH AND MAKE MY OWN FACEBOOK AND INSTAGRAM ACCOUNT. AND THE VERY FIRST THING THAT I POSTED ON IT WAS ABOUT THE NILE MONITOR, INVASIVE SPECIES ON THERE. SO WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT ON THE BOARD. I WAS ABLE TO GET THAT OUT THERE. I HAVE VERY LITTLE TO NO FOLLOWERS BECAUSE IT IS BRAND NEW, BUT I AM. YOU SHOULD SHARE THE THE SITE NAME SO WE CAN GO AND ROLL. YEP. IF YOU LOOK FOR ME ON FACEBOOK, I DON'T HAVE A CUSTOM URL ON FACEBOOK, BUT IF YOU LOOK FOR. DO A SEARCH FOR DOUG BOMBAY. I'VE HAD ONE INDIVIDUAL FIND ME ON FACEBOOK THAT WAY. AND FOLLOWED MY PROFILE THERE. ON INSTAGRAM IT IS INSTAGRAM AT BAY. DOUG. I THINK IS THE HANDLE THAT I GOT. AGAIN, I'M TRYING TO SPREAD THE AWARENESS AND CREATE THE KIND OF A SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORM FOR THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD ON A PERSONAL LEVEL. AND I, EVEN THOUGH I'M CLICKING INTO THE VOID CURRENTLY, I AM ACTIVE ON THERE. I'M TRYING TO SHARE EVENTS AND SHARE THE CITY'S AWARENESS AND WHATNOT. [01:20:04] SO IT'S A VERY ACTIVE FACEBOOK PAGE FOR TWO FOLLOWERS. BUT HOPEFULLY AS TIME GOES BY, YOU CAN'T BUILD AN AUDIENCE WITHOUT CREATING ENGAGEMENT AND DOING THESE THINGS. SO I'M DOING WHAT I CAN TO TRY TO GET US UP THERE. I HAVE ONE OTHER THING, THOUGH. FRANK'S SUGGESTION ON ON ENERGY EFFICIENT, RIGHT? AM I CALLING? TONY. WHAT? TONY. I'M SORRY. OH, GEEZ. I'M SENILE. I'M 74 YEARS OLD. MY BRAIN IS FAST. YEAH. WHAT YOU WERE SUGGESTING, WOULD IT MAKE SENSE FOR HIM TO ADDRESS THAT OR SOMEBODY TO ADDRESS IT WITH INFRASTRUCTURE OR P AND Z? THAT WAS ABOUT MECHANICAL CODES AND THE FACT THAT EVERY MECHANICAL CODE HAS CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS FOR OUTSIDE AIR AND MIXED INTO THE RECIRCULATED AIR OUTSIDE, I USES A LOT OF ENERGY. THAT ENERGY IS USUALLY NOT RENEWABLE. AND SO IT KIND OF FLIES AGAINST SUSTAINABILITY. THERE ARE WAYS WITHIN STANDARDS THAT YOU CAN REDUCE THAT AND STILL COMPLY WITH CODES. AND SO JUST WONDERING IF THAT WAS LIKE SOMETHING TO EXPLORE WITH WHOM. WE CAN GET YOU THE CONTACT FOR FACILITIES AND TALK IT OVER WITH THEM. THEY'D PROBABLY BE THE BEST, BEST PEOPLE TO TALK TO FOR SURE. YEAH. EXCELLENT. DID YOU WANT TO REVISIT THE ITEM WE WERE SPEAKING ABOUT EARLIER? THAT. OH ROGUE VALLEY? YEAH, I MENTIONED THIS WHEN THEY FIRST APPROVED THIS BECAUSE THE COUNTY SAID NO, THANK YOU BECAUSE THEY KNEW HOW MUCH WATER IT TAKES. AND I WON'T REALLY KNOW ENOUGH TO ADDRESS IT INTELLIGENTLY UNTIL I KNOW WHAT THE CAPACITY IS WITH OUR NEW WELL AND HOW LONG IT'S GOING TO TAKE. BUT 100 MILLION GALLONS TO 250 MILLION GALLONS SCARES ME BECAUSE OUR AQUIFER IS VERY CLOSE TO DRY, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HAVEN'T HAD A LOT OF RAIN. YOU KNOW, SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY NEED TO BE AWARE OF. AND I THINK HAVING SOME SORT OF OVERSIGHT OR REQUIREMENT WOULD BE HELPFUL BECAUSE THEY CAN'T TAKE ALL THE WATER FROM US AND WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO BE DRINKING THE METALS THAT WILL BE EXUDED FROM IT. OKAY. DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR REPORT FOR TONIGHT? EXCELLENT. SO MY TURN AS USUAL. I HAVE A LOT I COULD TALK ABOUT AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS BROUGHT UP EARLIER IS SOMETHING THAT WAS DISCUSSED AT THE LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING. THE OAK TREES AT KING GREEN PARK. FOR SHADE. I DID SPEAK UP DURING MY PUBLIC COMMENT SECTIONS BEFORE THE CONSENT AGENDA. ABOUT THE EXPENSE FOR TREE BECAUSE IT WAS SOMEWHERE IN THE BALLPARK OF, I THINK THE QUOTE WAS 5500 DOLLARS. I MADE SUGGESTIONS AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THE CITY COULD ACQUIRE THE TREES AND WE WOULD BE ABLE TO THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD DRIVE SOME ENGAGEMENT AND DOING VOLUNTEERISM WITH THAT. DISCUSSION WAS HAD ABOUT THAT. AND THE CITY COUNCIL ULTIMATELY WENT A DIFFERENT ROUTE WHICH IS THEIR PREROGATIVE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT DID GET BROUGHT UP FOLLOWING THAT DISCUSSION WAS ONE OF THE CITIZENS WHO WAS INVOLVED WITH THE CITY ON A REGULAR BASIS ON AN ADVOCACY ROLE ACTUALLY WENT UP DURING HER PUBLIC COMMENTS AND SUGGESTED THAT THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD POTENTIALLY BECOME INCLUDED IN VOLUNTEER LANDSCAPE AT THAT SAME PARK. SO THE CITY IS PUTTING IN THESE BIG FOUR SHADE TREES, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THERE'S NOT REALLY A WHOLE LOT GOING ON AT THAT DOG PARK. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE MAY WANT TO CONSIDER IN THE FUTURE. IF WE CAN WORK WITH OUR PARTNERS AT THE CHAPTER GET SOME NATIVE SHRUBS AND WHATNOT, GET PERMISSION TO DO SOME EXTRA LANDSCAPING AROUND KING GREEN MEMORIAL PARK, GIVE THE DOGS A BIT MORE FOCAL POINTS. THE TREES ARE GREAT. THEY'RE GOING TO PROVIDE SOME SHADE. BUT AS AS THE CITIZEN SAID, TREES LIKE OUR DOGS LIKE TO SNIFF BUSHES AND ALL SORTS OF OTHER THINGS. SO MAYBE WE COULD POTENTIALLY GET INVOLVED WITH THAT. THAT'S SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO SEE THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD FOCUS ON. YOU KNOW, RICHARD, AS THE POINT OF CONTACT FOR OUR PLANTS, RIGHT? YES, YES. SO I WAS GOING TO CONTACT MR. BLACKFORD AND SEE WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S ANY INTEREST ON CONRADINA TO POTENTIALLY DONATE SOME TO BUY SOME PLANTS ON THERE. AND THEN HOPEFULLY THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD WILL BE ABLE TO ORGANIZE A VOLUNTEER PLANTING DAY AND GET SOME EXTRA LANDSCAPING ON THERE IF WE'RE ABLE TO. [01:25:03] DOES THAT SOUND LIKE SOMETHING THAT WOULD NEED TO BE. I'M SURE IT WOULD PRESENT IT TO COUNCIL AND POTENTIALLY THROUGH PARKS AND REC SINCE IT'S GOING TO BE THEIR PROPERTY. BECAUSE I KNOW MAINTENANCE IS GOING TO BE AN ON GOING CONCERN, BUT FOR SHRUBS, IT'S IF IT'S AN EFFORT OF THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD THEN YES. OKAY. YEAH. EXCELLENT. SO I GUESS I WILL TAKE MY TIME MY THREE MINUTES OF PUBLIC COMMENT AND TRY TO BRING THAT UP TO CITY COUNCIL AT THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND SEE WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S ANY INTEREST IN SUPPORTING THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD FOR SOME EXTRA LANDSCAPING ON THERE. THE ONE THING THAT I DO THINK THAT WE CAN DO. SPEAKING OF TURNING IDEAS INTO ACTION SUPER LOW HANGING FRUIT BECAUSE IT'S FREE. BUT I WANTED TO GET CONSENT FROM THE BOARD BEFORE I TOOK ACTION ON IT TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT IT'S SOMETHING THE BOARD SUPPORTS. APRIL 10TH IS GOPHER TORTOISE DAY, SIMILAR TO THE PROCLAMATION THAT WE MADE FOR NATIONAL INVASIVE SPECIES AWARENESS WEEK, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF THERE IS CONSENT FROM THE BOARD TO CREATE A PROCLAMATION FOR GOPHER TORTOISE DAY. AND HAVE THAT PRESENTED TO CITY STAFF AND SEE WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN GET A PROCLAMATION READ BY THE CITY FOR GOPHER TORTOISE DAY. WHY NOT? SO IS THERE ANY ANYONE OPPOSED TO ME GOING OUT OF MY WAY TO TRY TO GET THAT DONE? NOPE. GO FOR IT. EXCELLENT. DOES THAT NEED A MOTION OR IS THAT CONSENT WOULD BE OKAY FOR THE BOARD? OKAY. EXCELLENT. THAT WILL BE IT FOR MY BOARD REPORT FOR NOW. I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE WANT. I WANT TO LEAVE IT FOR NOW. SO THAT WILL MOVE US ON TO OTHER BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS UPCOMING MEETINGS AND EVENTS OF INTEREST. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY UPCOMING EVENTS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO PROMOTE THAT ARE SUSTAINABILITY RELATED. I'M STILL TRYING TO SELL A HOUSE THAT'S VERY SUSTAINABLE. OKAY. SO IN THE SAME VEIN AS WHAT I TALKED ABOUT EARLIER I HAVE CREATED A PUBLIC CALENDAR FOR THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD. I'M TRYING TO FIND ITEMS TO FILL IT WITH. FRANKLY, I GOT A WHOLE BUNCH OF THEM FOR APRIL. I'M SURPRISED THAT I WAS ABLE TO FIND THAT MANY. BUT LIKE I SAID TURKEY CREEK IS PUMPING OUT EVENTS. IF ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE OR ANYONE ON THE BOARD IS INTERESTED, THE URL FOR THAT IS GOING TO BE WWW.URL.COM/B S A B PALM BAY SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD. SO P B S A B CALENDAR. THAT SHOULD TAKE YOU DIRECTLY TO THE PUBLIC LISTING FOR THE GOOGLE CALENDAR. IF THERE ARE ANY SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE ADDED TO THAT CALENDAR OR IF CITY STAFF WOULD LIKE. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT Y'ALL COULD DO. GET INVITED TO THAT CALENDAR AND Y'ALL WOULD BE ABLE TO ADD EVENTS ON YOUR OWN BECAUSE AGAIN, IT IS A PUBLIC CALENDAR THAT ANYBODY WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO. BUT I'M TRYING TO COMPILE THAT AND I'M PLANNING ON WORKING WITH SOME OF OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS THAT DO LARGE EVENTS TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THEY MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN GETTING AN INVITE AND JUST THROWING UP THINGS ON THE CALENDAR. THAT WAY I DON'T HAVE TO MANUALLY HUNT DOWN ALL THEIR EVENTS AND ADD THEM TO THEIR BUT FROM THE CALENDAR SINCE WE ARE ON THAT SECTION OF THE MEETING JUST GOING TO RUN DOWN SOME OF THE EVENTS THAT ARE GOING ON HERE IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY RELATIVELY SOON OR THE SURROUNDING AREA ON MARCH 28TH AT TURKEY CREEK, THERE IS GOING TO BE A POLLINATOR GARDEN CLASS. I BELIEVE REGISTRATION IS $5. YOU DO HAVE TO REGISTER IN ADVANCE. YOU CAN CONTACT THE TURKEY CREEK SANCTUARY AND GET PUT ON THE LIST ON THERE. I WILL BE THERE. AS A, AS A NOT A PARTICIPANT BECAUSE I'M NOT GOING TO BE INVOLVED IN RUNNING THE CLASS, BUT I WILL BE THERE LEARNING AT TURKEY CREEK FOR THAT ONE. THE NEXT EVENT THAT I WANTED TO BRING UP IS ACTUALLY APRIL 4TH. LITTLE GROWERS INCORPORATED WHO HAS COME AND PRESENTED THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD AND THE CITY COUNCIL BEFORE, IN THE PAST. THEY'RE TECHNICALLY HEADQUARTERED IN MELBOURNE. BUT WE LIKE TO WORK WITH OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS AS BEST WE CAN. THEY HAVE A FOOD FOREST PLANTING THAT IS GOING TO BE HAPPENING ON APRIL 4TH. I'VE ALSO VOLUNTEERED FOR THAT ONE MYSELF. I'M GOING TO BE BRINGING SOME STUFF AND PUTTING IN SOME PLANTS THAT ARE WORKING ON DOING A SUSTAINABLE FOOD GARDEN. AND ALSO A PLANT GARDEN. I'VE REACHED OUT TO CONRADINA CHAPTER TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE INTERESTED IN SPONSORING SOME THINGS, BUT I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING BACK. JUST TRYING TO AGAIN, ENGAGE WITH OUR COMMUNITY AND DO THINGS ON THAT WAY. APRIL 10TH IS TREE BEATS AND EATS HERE AT CITY HALL. AS I PREVIOUSLY SAID, HOPEFULLY I GOT A THUMBS UP ON IT. SO I WILL BE JOINING PUBLIC WORKS THERE. ON APRIL 10TH AND TALKING WITH THE COMMUNITY ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY IF ANYBODY'S INTERESTED. WE HAVE APRIL 11TH. THE FOLLOWING DAY, DOWNTOWN MELBOURNE BOTANICAL FESTIVAL IS GOING TO BE GOING ON. [01:30:05] I'M GOING TO BE THERE IN A ROLE WITH CONRADINA CHAPTER. NOT NECESSARILY SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD SINCE IT'S OUTSIDE OF PALM BAY. BUT IF ANYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY IS INTERESTED IN PARTAKING IN THAT, THAT WILL BE IN DOWNTOWN MELBOURNE. AND IT'S GOING TO BE A PLANT FESTIVAL. THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF NATIVE PLANT VENDORS GOING ON. THERE'S GOING TO BE PEOPLE DOING ALL SORTS OF FUN STUFF. AN EVENT I WOULD LIKE TO EVENTUALLY SEE HAPPEN IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY AS OPPOSED TO MELBOURNE, BUT WE'LL TAKE OUR BYTES AS WE COME ACROSS THEM. THE NEXT ONE IS GOING TO BE THE FLORIDA INVASIVE SPECIES COUNCIL. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY IS NOT NECESSARILY INVOLVED IN. BUT THE FLORIDA INVASIVE SPECIES COUNCIL IS A STATEWIDE ORGANIZATION THAT DOES CONTROL AND MANAGE THE LIST FOR INVASIVE SPECIES IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. THEY'RE HAVING THEIR ANNUAL SYMPOSIUM ON APRIL 6TH THROUGH THE 10TH IN MELBOURNE BEACH. IF ANYBODY IS INTERESTED IN PARTAKING IN THAT, YOU CAN GO ON TO THEIR WEBSITE AND GET TICKETS FOR THAT. I WISH I COULD GO, BUT A WEEK FULL OF WORK IS UNFORTUNATELY WELL OUTSIDE WHAT I CAN FLOAT FOR MYSELF. AND THEN THE LAST ONE THAT I WANTED TO BRING UP, I KIND OF HAVE TO TAKE OVER FROM THIS SINCE WE'RE LOSING MISS JANE. I WILL KEEP BEATING THIS DRUM. THE CONRADINA CHAPTER IS HAVING THEIR MONTHLY MEETING ON APRIL 13TH. AT THE FIRST CHURCH OF THE NAZARENE. IF ANYBODY IS INTERESTED IN THAT, IT IS FREE. YOU'RE WELCOME TO JOIN. THERE IS A SOCIAL HOUR THAT STARTS OUR SOCIAL HALF HOUR THAT STARTS AT 530. THE MEETING ITSELF IS 6 TO 8. AND IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN LEARNING ABOUT NATIVE PLANTS, THAT IS THE PLACE TO DO IT. AND IF THERE IS NO FURTHER ITEMS ON THE AGENDA ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION FOR THE BOARD AT THIS TIME? ALL RIGHT. THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT 7:32 P.M.. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.