KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. IT IS NOW 1800 HOURS. 
          [CALL TO ORDER:]
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I'M GOING TO CALL REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. 2026-12 TO ORDER. 
          THE INVOCATION WILL BE LED BY PASTOR JERRY KLEMM OF COVENANT CHURCH,
AND OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WILL BE LED BY OUR DEPUTY MAYOR, MIKE JAFFE. PLEASE RISE. AND PRAY WITH ME. GRACIOUS AND ALMIGHTY GOD,
WE GATHER THIS EVENING ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THERE IS NO AUTHORITY EXCEPT THAT WHICH YOU'VE
ESTABLISHED. 
          WE THANK YOU FOR THE GIFT OF CIVIL GOVERNMENT AND FOR THE MEN AND WOMEN IN THIS ROOM WHO
HAVE STEPPED FORWARD TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY. 
          LORD, WE CONFESS OUR NEED FOR YOUR GUIDANCE. WE BELIEVE THAT THE LEADER'S HEART IS A
STREAM OF WATER IN YOUR HAND. 
          OH LORD, YOU TURN IT WHEREVER YOU WILL. WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD TURN THE HEARTS OF THIS
COUNCIL TOWARD WHAT IS JUST, WHAT IS TRUE AND WHAT IS FOR THE COMMON GOOD OF ALL OUR COMMUNITY. 
          WE PRAY SPECIFICALLY THAT YOU WOULD GRANT THESE MEN AND WOMEN DISCERNMENT THAT EXCEEDS
THEIR OWN NATURAL ABILITIES. 
          MAY THEY BE QUICK TO HEAR AND SLOW TO SPEAK,
AND SLOW TO ANGER AS THEY NAVIGATE THE COMPLEXITIES OF OUR CITY'S GROWTH AND THE NEEDS OF OUR CITIZENRY. LORD, WOULD YOU STRENGTHEN THEM TO ACT WITH UPRIGHTNESS,
PUTTING THE INTEREST OF THE VULNERABLE AND THE FLOURISHING OF THE WHOLE CITY ABOVE ANY KIND OF POLITICAL PRESSURE OR AGENDAS? AND FATHER,
REMIND US ALL THAT WE ARE STEWARDS OF YOUR CREATION. 
          WE'RE NOT OWNERS OF THE POSITIONS THAT WE HOLD AND THE LAND THAT WE LIVE ON. 
          HELP US TO SERVE WITH THE SPIRIT OF GRACE AND COOPERATION. 
          LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS CITY, FOR ITS BEAUTY,
ITS CHALLENGES, ITS OPPORTUNITIES, AND MOST OF ALL, ITS PEOPLE. MAY THE DECISIONS MADE IN THESE CHAMBERS TONIGHT REFLECT YOUR CHARACTER OF
JUSTICE AND MERCY. 
          AND MAY THEY LEAD TO A PEACE THAT ALLOWS EVERY PERSON TO LEAD A QUIET AND GODLY LIFE. 
          AND FATHER, AS ALWAYS, WE PRAY FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS. 
          WOULD YOU AT THE END OF EACH SHIFT, LORD, WE WOULD ASK AND PLEAD THAT YOU BRING THEM ALL
SAFELY HOME TO THEIR LOVED ONES. 
          AND WE COMMIT THIS MEETING IN THIS CITY TO YOUR PROVIDENTIAL CARE FOR YOUR HONOR,
FOR YOUR GLORY. 
          YES, WE ASK THESE THINGS, LORD JESUS, IN YOUR NAME. 
          AMEN. AMEN. AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO
THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE,
WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. 
          HURRAH! MRS. MRS. JONES. 
          LOVE THE INTRODUCTION, MAYOR. THANK YOU. MAYOR. 
          MEDINA PRESIDENT. DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE PRESIDENT COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. 
          PRESIDENT. COUNCILMAN HAMMER. PRESIDENT. COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN. PRESIDENT MR. MORTON.
PRESIDENT. MISS SMITH PRESENT. WE'RE NOW ON AGENDA REVISIONS, 
          [AGENDA REVISIONS:]
MR. MORTON. THANK YOU, HONORABLE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL,
THE APPLICANT FOR ITEMS NUMBER FIVE AND SIX UNDER PUBLIC HEARINGS, AS REQUESTED THAT THE CASES RELATING TO PALM VISTA WEST BE CONTINUED TO THE MAY 7TH
REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. 
          I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ASK FOR THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVES HERE TO ASK FOR
THAT CONTINUANCE. 
          OKAY. WOULD SHE STEP FORWARD? AS IF I DIDN'T KNOW WHO THE APPLICANT WAS BEING REPRESENTED
BY. 
          THANK YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU. MAYOR. CITY MANAGER. 
          MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL KIM REZANKA WITH LACI REZANKA HERE ON BEHALF OF MELROSE
PROPERTIES, ALSO KNOWN AS LENNAR. WE HAVE ASKED FOR A CONTINUANCE OF THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT AND THE
PDP PUD ZONING TO ALLOW US TIME TO GET THE TRAFFIC STUDIES, THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL WARRANT STUDIES THAT PLANNING AND ZONING. 
          ASKED ABOUT QUITE A BIT AT THAT MEETING. THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT CAME UP LATE IN THE
PROCESS. 
          THEY'RE DONE. THEY'RE IN PROCESS OF BEING UPLOADED AS WE SPEAK. 
          WE KNOW YOUR OUTSIDE CONSULTANT HAS TO LOOK AT IT,
BUT THERE'S AT LEAST THREE WEEKS. 
          SO THEY WOULD HAVE TIME TO DO THAT. AND AS YOUR STAFF REPORT SAYS,
THE REQUESTED CONDITION WAS THAT WE JUST HAVE IT BEFORE SECOND READING AND CITY COUNCIL, WHICH WOULD BE IN JULY. SO WE'VE GONE THAT EXTRA STEP. 
          WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO WORK WITH THE FIRE AND POLICE DEPARTMENTS TO FIND OUT WHAT WE CAN DO
TO HELP WITH THE THE NEEDS THEY HAVE. 
          SO WE WANTED TO BRING THAT ALL TO YOU AT ONE TIME,
AND WE'VE ASKED FOR MAY 7TH. 
          MAY 21ST DOESN'T WORK BECAUSE ANNA SANDERS, THE ENGINEER OF RECORD,
AND ANOTHER REPRESENTATIVE, JOANNA BROWN OF LENNAR, THEIR CHILDREN ARE GRADUATING HIGH SCHOOL. 
          AND WE DON'T WANT TO WAIT UNTIL JULY. CONGRATULATIONS ON IT. 
          SO WE'D ASK FOR MAY 7TH. WE'D LIKE TO BE LAST ON THE AGENDA. 
          I HAVE A CONFLICT WITH THE COUNTY COMMISSION,
BUT WHATEVER WORKS FOR YOU ALL, WE'LL MAKE IT WORK. 
          BUT MAY 7TH IS REQUESTED, AND IT'S JUST SO WE CAN FULLY GIVE YOU EVERYTHING YOU NEED FOR
THIS LARGE PROJECT. 
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THANK YOU. MA'AM. MR. MORTON? YES. IS THAT ENOUGH GRACE PERIOD? BECAUSE WE'RE WE'RE NOT HERE IN JUNE, SO PERHAPS WHAT WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS REGARDING
STAFF AND WHAT WE HAVE TO DECIPHER? I'LL ACTUALLY LET IF JASON DILORENZO, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND COMMENTING ON THE TIME,
I KNOW WE HAVE SOME 30 DAY REVIEW PERIODS. I KNOW TO YOUR POINT, MAYOR, WE'RE NOT HERE IN JUNE. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THOSE THOSE ALIGNMENT PERIODS AND
TIMING WORK OUT FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          YEAH. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, JASON DILORENZO I WE'VE WE'VE BEEN TOLD WE'RE
GOING TO RECEIVE THE TRAFFIC WARRANT STUDY TODAY. 
          IT IS THE LAST TECHNICAL PIECE THAT WE NEED. BUT AS MR. MENTIONED, IT WAS REQUESTED BY THE SECOND HEARING. 
          THIS IS A LARGE SCALE CHANGE, SO IT HAS TO GO TO THE STATE. 
          SO IT'S A FIRST READING AND THEN SOME, SOME APPROXIMATELY 30 DAYS UNTIL IT WILL GET A
REVIEW BY THE STATE AND THEN A SECOND READING AFTER THAT. WE ARE WORKING ON A SCHEDULED MEETING FOR NEXT WEEK OR THE FOLLOWING TO
COMPLETE OUR DISCUSSIONS ABOUT POLICE AND FIRE CONCURRENCY. DON'T THINK IT'S BEEN SCHEDULED YET,
BUT WE'VE BEEN WORKING HARD ON, ON GETTING A SCHEDULE, GOING TO THE ACTUAL CALENDAR. 
          FOR A MAY 7TH MEETING. OUR AGENDA ITEMS ARE DUE TOMORROW,
TODAY OR TOMORROW. 
          AND WE NEED TIME TO REVIEW THE TRAFFIC STUDY. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S THREE WEEKS. OUR CONSULTANT SAID THEY CAN DO THE REVIEW IN IN 1 TO 2 WEEKS. 
          IT'S TIGHT. IT'S POSSIBLE IF THERE'S NOT A FOLLOW UP REVIEW OF THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL WARRANT. 
          SO IN YOUR MEETINGS WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT ARE NOT SCHEDULED YET. 
          DID I HEAR WE'VE HAD PRELIMINARY DISCUSSIONS AND WE'VE OUTLINED WHAT OUR REQUESTS MIGHT
BE. 
          BUT THEY LATE LAST WEEK, THEY OR MAYBE EARLY THIS WEEK THE CONSULTANT ON THE PROJECT ASKED
FOR A MEETING WITH ADMINISTRATION TO JUST FOLLOW THROUGH AND FINISH UP THAT. AND THEN WE HAVE THE STATE TO GO TO. YEAH. 
          SO THERE'S A FIRST READING, THEN A COMMENT PERIOD FOR THE STATE,
WHICH IS NO LONGER NO MORE THAN 30 DAYS. 
          AND THEN WE'RE OFF IN JUNE. OKAY. AND THEN WE WOULD BE BACK IN JULY. 
          SO WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT JULY? MY THOUGHTS SIR? YES. WELL, THAT WOULD JUST EXTEND THE AMOUNT OF TIME WE HAVE FOR REVIEW AND TO COMPLETE
ANY OTHER ITEMS THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY. 
          IS THAT I GUESS? LET ME LET ME QUALIFY MY QUESTION A LITTLE BETTER. 
          WOULD THAT GRACE PERIOD PROVIDE YOU SUFFICIENT CONFIDENCE THAT IT CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED BY
OUR FIRST MEETING IN JULY? YES, SIR. OKAY. COUNCIL BEING A DATE CERTAIN I WOULD. 
          I WOULD SUGGEST WE GO AT LEAST THE FIRST MEETING IN JULY. 
          THAT'S THAT'S MY TWO. BECAUSE MISS SAUNDERS,
HER HER DAUGHTER'S GRADUATING. 
          HER CHILD IS GRADUATING THE 21ST. SO THAT'S WHERE I WOULD BE. 
          WELL, SIR, THE FIRST READING AGAIN IS JUST READING THE TRANSMITTAL. 
          SO WE WOULD HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION WE WOULD NEED BY SECOND READING IN JULY OR EVEN
AUGUST, DEPENDING ON HOW LONG THE STATE. SO WE REALLY DO NOT WANT TO PUSH THIS,
AS HAS BEEN IN PROCESS FOR A VERY LONG TIME. 
          AS YOU RECALL, WE'D REALLY LIKE THE FIRST READING ON MAY 7TH,
BUT ALL POSSIBLE, AND I THINK ANA WANTS TO ADD. 
          YEAH. I MEAN, IF THERE'S ANY CONSIDERATION FOR THAT,
WE WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IT. 
          WE'VE BEEN IN THIS PROCESS SINCE JULY OF 2025. 
          AT THE PNC MEETING, WE, THERE WAS A LOT OF TALK ABOUT THE,
THE TRAFFIC. 
          WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL WARRANT STUDY. IT WAS ACTUALLY JUST SUBMITTED ABOUT
MAYBE A SHORT 30 MINUTES AGO. 
          I'VE SPOKEN WITH STAFF ABOUT REVIEWING THAT. THERE'S NO ARGUING OVER THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL
WARRANT STUDY. 
          IT'S JUST WHAT'S WARRANTED AND WHEN WOULD IT BE IMPLEMENTED. 
          SO THOSE ARE THE DISCUSSIONS AT THE PNC MEETING. 
          THERE WAS AN ITEM AGENDA THAT WAS TABLED ACTUALLY TO THE NEXT MEETING ABOUT YOUR LEVEL OF
SERVICE AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO KIND OF TACKLE SOME OF THOSE PUBLIC SAFETY ITEMS. WE ARE AWARE OF THAT. WE'VE HAD A MEETING PRELIMINARILY WITH BOTH FIRE AND THE POLICE
CHIEF TO GO THROUGH THOSE ITEMS, AND WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST WE'VE PROVIDED OUR COMMITMENT TO THE TOWN,
TO THE CITY, TO WORK THROUGH THOSE ITEMS. WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IS NOT LOSE ANOTHER 30 DAYS. 
          SO IF WE WOULD BE SO GRACIOUS AS TO ALLOW US TO GO TO THE MAY 7TH MEETING HERE THE PROJECT
OUT KNOW THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH STAFF. 
          THEY CAN CORROBORATE THAT STORY. AND THEN WHILE YOU GUYS ARE ON RECESS,
WE CAN CONTINUE THAT WORK AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ALL OF THOSE PIECES AND PARTS IN PLACE AND BRING YOU BACK A FULL PICTURE AT THAT JULY 2ND OR THE,
I'M GOING TO SAY THE JULY 16TH MEETING, WHICHEVER IT MAY BE, AND BE ABLE TO PRESENT THAT TO YOU. 
          THANK YOU MA'AM. YES, THANK YOU, MR. DILORENZO. 
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MY, MY HEART IS IS I'M I'M A LITTLE PERPLEXED BY THIS,
RIGHT. 
          I DON'T WANT TO PUT STAFF IN A POSITION THAT WE'RE RUSHING SOMETHING ACROSS THE FINISH
LINE WITH WITHOUT THE DETAILS THAT YOU NEED AND MOVING FORWARD. 
          SO WHAT IF WHAT WOULD BE YOUR PREFERENCE? WHAT WOULD BE STAFF'S ULTIMATE PREFERENCE TO,
TO TACKLE THIS? MAYOR. EVERYTHING WE NEED HAS BEEN COMPLETED EXCEPT FOR THOSE THREE ITEMS AS WAS
DESCRIBED. 
          THE SIGNAL WARRANT IS IT'S A COMPARISON TO TO A DOT DOCUMENT. 
          RIGHT. IT JUST GOES THROUGH THE STEPS AND SAYS YES,
THIS TRIPS. 
          NO, THAT DOESN'T TRIP. OBVIOUSLY ULTIMATELY IT'S GOING TO BE THE BOARD'S ULTIMATE POSITION
ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY CONCURRENCY. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO FURTHER THAT ALONG AND BRING A BETTER PACKAGE TO CITY
COUNCIL. 
          COPY. YOU KNOW, BEYOND THAT, SIR, YOU TELL US TO GET THE WORK DONE,
WE'LL GET THE WORK DONE. 
          OKAY. COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. DILORENZO? DIDN'T I HEAR IT WAS THREE WEEKS FOR IT TO COME BACK,
OR IT WAS THREE WEEKS FOR FOR THE DECISION TO COME BACK. 
          NO, SIR, IT'S THREE WEEKS. IT'S THREE WEEKS TILL OUR NEXT MEETING. 
          WE HAVE THREE WEEKS BETWEEN NOW AND THE SEVENTH,
AND BUT WE. 
          OH, I THOUGHT YOU WERE. I THOUGHT YOU SAID YOU WERE SENDING SOMETHING OFF TO THE STATE.
AND IT USUALLY TAKES THREE WEEKS. I'M SORRY. IT'S 30 DAYS. THE STATE HAS 30 DAYS. THEY COULD TAKE LESS. THEY CAN'T TAKE MORE. OKAY,
DEPUTY MAYOR, I WAS JUST. 
          JUST TO CLARIFY, IF IF WE PASS THE FIRST READING,
THEN IT GOES TO THE STATE. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT TAKES 30 DAYS. THAT'S CORRECT. 
          AND IN FACT, THE CITY ACTUALLY, IF YOU GUYS WERE TO ALLOW US TO GO TO THE MAY 7TH MEETING
AND WE WERE SO LUCKY AS TO GET YOUR APPROVAL, CITY STAFF HAS TEN DAYS TO ACTUALLY TRANSMIT THAT TO THE STATE. 
          AND THEN ONCE THEY RECEIVE IT, IT'S 30 DAYS ON TOP OF IT. 
          AND SO THE HOPE IS THAT WE CAN CONTINUE DOING THE WORK DURING YOUR RECESS,
LIKE I SAID AND WORK THROUGH SOME OF THE LEVEL OF SERVICE ITEMS THAT ARE NOT YET TECHNICALLY PART OF THE CODE, BUT WE RECOGNIZE THAT THERE'S A NEED AND WE JUST WANT TO BE
ABLE TO WORK THROUGH THOSE AND BRING THEM BACK TO YOU. COPY. THANK YOU MA'AM. THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL, I'LL ENTERTAIN WHATEVER YOUR MOTION IS. 
          I'VE ALREADY SAID I FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE IN JULY,
BUT WHATEVER THIS COUNCIL CHOOSES, I'M. 
          I'M INCLINED TO JOIN YOU. I NEED A MOTION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO A CERTAIN DATE. 
          MAY 7TH. SECOND. I GOT A MOTION TO MAY 7TH BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE,
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? ARE THERE A LOT OF RESIDENTS OUT HERE FOR THIS
ITEM? THAT'S I HAVEN'T POLLED. YEAH, BUT THAT THAT COULD BE I DON'T KNOW,
THAT'S JUST JUST A THOUGHT, BUT THAT THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE MOTION AT THIS POINT OR AFTER. 
          RIGHT. SO MAY THE MOTION IS MAY 7TH. OF COURSE I,
I, I ALREADY SAID JULY, BUT I'M CALLING THE QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE AYE AYE. ALL OPPOSED SIGNIFY BY SAYING NAY,
NAY NAY. 
          SO PASSES 3 TO 2. IS ANYONE HERE FOR THIS ITEM. 
          THIS MOTION, IT'S ITEMS NUMBER FIVE AND SIX ON THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          ARE YOU ALL HERE FOR THAT ITEM? SO PLEASE KNOW THAT WE'VE MOVED THAT TO MAY 7TH,
SO WE WON'T BE DISCUSSING THAT TODAY OR THIS EVENING. OKAY. NEXT ITEM,
MR. MORTON. WE AMENDED THE AMENDED DRAINAGE AGREEMENT FOR ITEM TWO UNDER NEW BUSINESS HAS BEEN REVISED TO CORRECT A SCRIVENER'S ERROR IN THE
THEREFORE CLAUSE CHANGING THE WORD DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TO WHAT IT SHOULD HAVE READ. 
          DRAINAGE AGREEMENT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. 
          ON ITEM TWO UNDER NEW BUSINESS. MISS SMITH, ANY REVISIONS? NO, SIR. COUNCIL. MEMBERS. ANY REVISIONS? NO,
SIR. 
          OKAY. SEEING NONE, WE'RE NOW ON PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS. 
          [PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS:]
SO IT IS. NATIONAL FOSTER CARE MONTH. IS MARY. 
          GRAY WEST HERE. MARY. MARY. GRACE. MARY. GRACE. 
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COME ON UP WITH YOUR WHOLE TEAM. ARE ALL THESE FOLKS WITH YOUR. OKAY? I FIGURED YOU HAD JOIN ME,
THOUGH. 
          YEAH, I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GREAT AUDIENCE YOU HAD THAT CAME WITH YOU. 
          NICE TO MEET YOU, MA'AM. NICE TO MEET YOU. COME ON UP. 
          IT'S NATIONAL FOSTER CARE MONTH. IT IS HEREBY PROCLAIMED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM
BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA. WHEREAS, MAY IS RECOGNIZED NATIONALLY AS NATIONAL FOSTER CARE
MONTH, A TIME TO RAISE AWARENESS OF THE NEEDS OF CHILDREN IN FOSTER CARE AND TO RECOGNIZE THE
FAMILIES AND COMMUNITY PARTNERS THAT SUPPORT THEM. 
          WHEREAS, NATIONAL FOSTER CARE DAY, OBSERVED ON MAY 5TH,
HIGHLIGHTS THE IMPORTANCE OF ENSURING SAFETY, STABILITY, CONNECTION FOR CHILDREN INVOLVED IN THE FOSTER CARE SYSTEM. 
          WHEREAS, THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 86 LICENSED FOSTER CARE HOMES IN BREVARD COUNTY CURRENTLY
PROVIDING CARE AND STABILITY FOR APPROXIMATELY 600 CHILDREN OUT OF HOME CARE. THESE FAMILIES PLAY A CRITICAL ROLE IN
SUPPORTING THE CHILDREN DURING TIMES OF TRANSITION AND NEED. WHEREAS, RESEARCH AND EXPERIENCE INDICATE THAT APPROXIMATELY
HALF OF FOSTER FAMILIES DISCONTINUE FOSTERING WITHIN THE FIRST YEAR, OFTEN CITING LACK OF ADEQUATE SUPPORT AND CONNECTION,
UNDERSCORING THE IMPORTANCE OF THE STRONG COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT AND RESOURCES FOR FOSTER FAMILIES. 
          AND WHEREAS THE BREVARD COUNTY FOSTER AND ADOPTIVE PARENT ASSOCIATION WAS FORMED WITH THIS
NEED IN MIND, WORKING TO BUILD COMMUNITY SUPPORT AND CONNECTIONS THAT STRENGTHEN FOSTER AND ADOPTIVE
FAMILIES AND PROMOTE PLACEMENT AND STABILITY. 
          WHEREAS BCFAPABC FAPA B C FAPA PROVIDES FOSTER AND ADOPTIVE FAMILIES WITH PRACTICAL AND RELATIONSHIP SUPPORT,
INCLUDING OPPORTUNITIES FOR FAMILIES, CONNECTIONS AND PEER SUPPORT, ACCESS TO COMMUNITY RESOURCES,
FAMILY FOCUSED EVENTS, AND PARTNERSHIPS WITH LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS. 
          ORGANIZATIONS TO STRENGTHEN CAREGIVER RESILIENCE AND FAMILY WELL-BEING. 
          AND WHEREAS, SINCE ITS INCEPTION OF NOVEMBER 2023,
THE BCFAPA HAS SERVED OVER 150 FOSTER AND ADOPTIVE FAMILIES ACROSS BREVARD COUNTY. YEAH. 
          GIVE IT UP. THROUGH COMMUNITY SUPPORT, CONNECTION,
AND ACCESS TO RESOURCES. 
          NOW, THEREFORE, I ROB MEDINA, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BY VIRTUE OF SAID,
AUTHORITY, SAID OR BY SAID AUTHORITY, HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF MAY 2026 AND MAY 5TH,
NATIONAL FOSTER CARE MONTH AND NATIONAL FOSTER CARE DAY IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND ENCOURAGE ALL OUR CITIZENS TO RECOGNIZE AND SUPPORT THE CHILDREN, THE FAMILIES AND PROFESSIONALS INVOLVED IN FOSTER CARE. 
          I SET MY RIGHT HAND AND CAUSED THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO BE AFFIXED THIS 16TH
DAY OF APRIL 2026. 
          MISS. GRACE, COME ON UP. THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO FOR OUR FOSTER CHILDREN. 
          GOD BLESS YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS MARY GRACE WEST. I'M THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS FOR THE BREVARD COUNTY
FOSTER AND ADOPTIVE PARENT ASSOCIATION, BCC FAPA. I SEE A LOT OF FACES I KNOW OUT HERE. 
          GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL. WE GARNER COMMUNITY SUPPORT FOR OUR LOCAL FOSTER AND ADOPTIVE
FAMILIES. 
          WE STRIVE SOLELY TO LIFT THEM UP. AS YOU'VE HEARD,
WE'RE AT ABOUT 86 FOSTER HOMES IN THE COUNTY, AND THAT IS THE LOWEST I HAVE SEEN SINCE I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED AS A FOSTER PARENT MYSELF
AND AN ADOPTIVE PARENT. 
          NOW, IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN FOSTERING OR YOU WANT TO SUPPORT A FAMILY THAT IS FOSTERING, I WOULD LOVE TO SPEAK WITH YOU. YOU CAN CHECK OUT OUR WEBSITE AT BC FAPA.ORG. 
          AND WE APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU DO AS A COMMUNITY TO SUPPORT OUR FAMILIES. 
          THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE IT. 
          GOD BLESS YOU. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A PICTURE. 
          SURE. COME ON. GENTLEMEN. THANK. 
          YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU,
THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
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GOD BLESS YOU, BROTHER. THANK YOU, SIR. 
          OUR NEXT PROCLAMATION. WE'RE WE'RE LITERALLY RECOGNIZING FULL TIME EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE
TAKEN THE TIME AND SACRIFICE OF THEIR FAMILIES AND THEIR WORK EFFORT TO, TO INCREASE THEIR KNOWLEDGE IN PUBLIC
ADMINISTRATION. 
          I'M REALLY PROUD OF THIS TEAM. I'M GOING TO CALL THEM UP BY NAME. 
          YVONNE CLEAVER FROM FINANCE, BRITTANY HECKMAN. 
          COME ON UP. BRITTANY HECKMAN FROM FINANCE. GRACE KELLER. 
          PROCUREMENT. ROBERT MACKENZIE. 
          WELL, I STAND CORRECTED BECAUSE ROBERT WENT OUT TO BIGGER THINGS. 
          HE WAS HE'S A FORMER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT EMPLOYEE. 
          SO MY DAY. NILSEN. NILSEN OF CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. 
          MY FAVORITE MARINE IN FINANCE, SHAUN SPILLERS. 
          ANDREA VARELA FROM HUMAN RESOURCES. COME ON UP. 
          NO, YOU GUYS AREN'T GETTING AWAY. YOU COMING UP ON THE PLATFORM,
GUYS? COME ON UP. YOU KNOW, AS I STARTED TO TO SAY,
THERE'S A DISCIPLINE WHEN YOU GO INTO HIGHER EDUCATION AND NOW THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE GRADUATING WITH A MASTER'S DEGREE IN, IN ADMINISTRATION AND PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION. 
          IT TOOK SOME TIME. IT TOOK A LOT OF EFFORT. BUT WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF,
OF WHAT YOU DO FOR OUR CITY. 
          AND WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF THE DETERMINATION YOU HAVE SHOWN TO BE BETTER EMPLOYEES. 
          EXCEPT YOU, ROBERT. I'M ONLY. IT IS HEREBY RECOGNIZED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY,
WHEREAS THE CITY OF PALM BAY IS COMMITTED TO FOSTERING EXCELLENCE IN PUBLIC SERVICE THROUGH PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT, CONTINUOUS LEARNING AND ORGANIZATIONAL GROWTH,
AND RECOGNIZES THAT A WELL-EDUCATED AND HIGHLY TRAINED WORKFORCE IS ESSENTIAL TO MEETING THE EVOLVING NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY. AND WHEREAS A DEDICATED COHORT OF PAST AND PRESENT
CITY EMPLOYEES DEMONSTRATED EXCEPTIONAL INITIATIVE, PERSEVERANCE, COMMITMENT, AND A PASSION FOR PUBLIC SERVICE BY PURSUING AND
SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETING ADVANCED GRADUATE STUDIES WHILE CONTINUING TO SERVE THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY WITH
PROFESSIONALISM AND INTEGRITY. 
          AND WHEREAS, THE CITY OF PALM BAY RECOGNIZES AND COMMENDS THE FOLLOWING INDIVIDUALS FOR
EARNING THEIR MASTERS OF PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION DEGREES. 
          YVONNE CLEAVER, FINANCE DEPARTMENT. BRITTANY HEIKKINEN. 
          FINANCE. DEPARTMENT. GRACE. KELLER. PROCUREMENT. 
          DEPARTMENT. ROBERT MCKENZIE, FORMER EMPLOYEE OF OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT,
MIGHT. 
          NIELSEN CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. SHAWN SPILLERS,
FINANCE DEPARTMENT AND ANDREA VARELA OF HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT. WHEREAS THESE GRADUATES HAVE ACQUIRED EXPERTISE IN LEADERSHIP,
PUBLIC POLICY, ORGANIZATIONAL MANAGEMENT, ETHICS AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT,
AND CAN APPLY THEIR ACADEMIC EXPERIENCE TO REAL WORLD CHALLENGES, INCLUDING PROGRAM EVALUATIONS AND INITIATIVES DESIGNED TO IMPROVE THE
ORGANIZATIONAL PROCESSES AND CULTURE HERE IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY. WHEREAS THE KNOWLEDGE AND SKILLS GAINED THROUGH THEIR GRADUATE STUDIES
DIRECTLY BENEFITS THE CITY OF PALM BAY BY FOSTERING INNOVATION, ENHANCING SERVICE DELIVERY, AND SUPPORTING SOUND INFORMED DECISION MAKING FOR THE
BETTERMENT OF OUR COMMUNITY. 
          WHEREAS THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF THIS COHORT EXEMPLIFY THE VALUES OF LEADERSHIP,
THE VALUES OF DEDICATION AND LIFELONG LEARNING, WHICH WILL CONTRIBUTE TO THE CONTINUED PROGRESS AND SUCCESS OF OUR GREAT CITY WE CALL PALM
BAY. 
          NOW, THEREFORE, I ROB MEDINA, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY,
DO HEREBY CELEBRATE AND HONOR THE 2026 GRADUATE COHORT MASTERS OF PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION IN THE CITY AND URGE ALL OUR CITIZENS TO JOIN THE CITY COUNCIL TO
CONGRATULATE THE 2026 MASTER OF PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION GRADUATION GRADUATING COHORT FOR THEIR OUTSTANDING ACCOMPLISHMENT AND CONTINUED COMMITMENT
TO EXCELLENCE IN PUBLIC SERVICE AND WITNESS. HERE HAVE I SET MY HAND AND CAUSED THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY THIS 16TH
DAY OF APRIL TO BE AFFIXED. 
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NOW, WHO'S STEPPING UP TO READ AND COME FORWARD? IS IT YOU? I KNEW IT HAD TO BE THE MARINE. DON'T BARK OUT ANY ORDERS,
SIR. 
          CARRY ON. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL,
EVERYONE, FOR BEING HERE. 
          I'VE BEEN VOLUNTEERED AS TRIBUTE TO TALK. SO THAT'S WHAT I'M DOING. 
          FIRST, WE'D LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE FOR BEING HERE. 
          WE KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM OUR DEPARTMENTS HERE TO SUPPORT US. 
          WE ALSO HAVE OUR PROFESSOR HERE WHO HELPED US THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROCESS. 
          WE JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT THIS PROCLAMATION IS A,
A WAY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO BETTER SERVE OUR COMMUNITY AND BE ABLE TO MAKE IMPACTFUL CHANGES. THANK YOU. 
          WELL, THEN I'M GOING TO HAVE THEM COME DOWN BECAUSE THIS IS THE WHOLE TEAM HERE. 
          THANKS, GUYS. WE'RE GOOD, WE'RE GOOD. 
          WE'RE GOOD. OKAY. ARE WE READY? GREAT. THANK YOU. 
          THANKS, GUYS. 
          OKAY, GENTLEMEN, WE ARE NOW ON PUBLIC COMMENTS. 
          [PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES:]
DEPUTY MAYOR. DOUG HOOK. 
          GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. COUNCIL. DOUG HOOK. SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD. 
          TONIGHT'S AN EXCITING NIGHT FOR THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD WITH NEW MEMBERS COMING
ON BOARD. 
          I UNDERSTAND THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD HAS PREVIOUSLY STRUGGLED WITH AN IDENTITY
IN THE PAST, AND HOPEFULLY THE COMMUNITY'S RE-ENGAGEMENT HAS SHOWN. 
          TONIGHT SHOWS THAT WE ARE HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AS A BOARD. 
          WITH THAT IN MIND, I'D LIKE TO ASK THE COUNCIL FOR AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE AN OPEN
DISCUSSION ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD'S OVERALL MISSION DURING AN UPCOMING COUNCIL MEETING. THE BOARD WAS CREATED UNDER A PRIOR COUNCIL MAKEUP AND A PRIOR
CITY MANAGER YEARS AGO, AND ITS MISSION HASN'T BEEN REVIEWED ANY TIME RECENTLY. 
          I UNDERSTAND THE BOARD WAS INITIALLY CREATED AS AN ADVISORY BOARD,
BUT THIS IS ACTUALLY LIMITED OUR EFFECTIVENESS AND OUR CAPACITY TO DO GOOD WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY. SINCE JOINING THE BOARD, ONE OF THE MORE FRUSTRATING ASPECTS IS HAVING IDEAS
CREATED AND STRUGGLING TO BE ABLE TO PURSUE THEM. 
          THERE APPEARS TO BE SOME MISUNDERSTANDING OR SOME LACK OF FRAMEWORK THAT. 
          ON HOW TO TURN IDEAS INTO ACTION GENERATED BY THE BOARD. 
          ONE OF THE COMMON THEMES I'VE HEARD WHILE ENGAGING IN SOCIAL MEDIA IS THE BOARD. 
          EXISTING IS GREAT, BUT CAN YOU ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING? COUNCIL HAS BEEN OPEN TO THE BOARD'S IDEAS IN THE PAST,
AND THAT'S GREATLY APPRECIATED. BUT THE BOARD COULD ACCOMPLISH MEANINGFUL CHANGES IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY. IF WE CREATE A PROCESS THAT ALLOWS IT TO. 
          AND THERE'S LOW HANGING FRUIT, THINGS LIKE HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE SUGGESTIONS
TO THE CITY. 
          SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS TO SHARE SUSTAINABILITY,
SUSTAINABLE IDEAS AND ENVIRONMENTAL EVENTS. 
          HAVING A CALENDAR AVAILABLE ON THE WEBSITE THAT THE COMMUNITY PARTNERS SUCH AS MRC,
LITTLE GROWERS OR CONRADINA CHAPTER AND OTHERS WOULD BE ABLE TO POST VOLUNTEER OPPORTUNITIES FOR CITIZENS TO IMPROVE THE COMMUNITY,
HAVING OPPORTUNITIES TO INCREASE THE AWARENESS OF THE BOARD'S EXISTENCE AND WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. AND THERE'S BOULDER ASKS THAT I'D LIKE TO
PRESENT, SUCH AS DROPPING THE A IN THE BOARD'S NAME AND JUST GOING WITH THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD,
OR EVEN CHANGING IT TO THE SUSTAINABILITY ACTION BOARD. 
          AND AS WE APPROACH THE FISCAL YEAR 2027 OR 2027 BUDGET DISCUSSIONS,
IT WOULD ALSO BE AWESOME IF THE BOARD HAD A MEAGER AND MODEST ANNUAL BUDGET TO PURSUE PROJECTS ON THE CITY'S BEHALF WILDFLOWER GARDENS AND PARKS,
PLANTING NEW TREES AROUND SIDEWALKS, PURSUING ACCOMPLISHMENTS THAT MAKE THE CITY STAND OUT,
SUCH AS TREE CITY, USA. 
          THESE ARE ALL SMALL THINGS THAT COULD FALL WITHIN THE REALM OF THE BOARD IF CLEAR FUNDING
OPPORTUNITIES WERE AVAILABLE FROM THE CITY, AND THESE SUGGESTIONS MIRROR A SIMILAR 
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STRUCTURE TO OUR NEIGHBORS IN MELBOURNE AND INDIALANTIC. 
          THEIR BOARDS HOST PARK CLEANUPS, EDUCATIONAL EVENTS,
PLANTINGS AND ARE A VALUED PART OF THEIR CITY OPERATIONS. 
          SO IF IT PLEASES COUNCIL, I THINK IT WOULD BENEFIT THE CITY TO REEVALUATE HOW THE
SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD COULD ASSIST THE CITY IN THE FUTURE. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, THOMAS WOODRUM. 
          GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THIS IS PART THREE OF MY RANT. 
          HAD TO WAIT ANOTHER MONTH. OUR CURRENT MAYOR AND COUNCIL ARE NOT ADEQUATELY SERVING THE
CITIZENS OF PALM BAY. 
          IT'S MY OPINION. CURRENTLY, OUR MAYOR IS PRIMARILY SERVED AS A MASTER OF CEREMONIES,
GIVING AWARDS CITATIONS FOR NONPROFITS. 
          RIBBON CUTTINGS. GRAND OPENINGS FOR RETAIL STORES. 
          OUR MAYOR NEEDS TO BE FULL TIME. MOVE THE $250,000 THAT THE CURRENT CITY MANAGER MAKES. 
          GIVE THAT TO THE MAYOR. OUR MAYOR SHOULD BE A VERY GOOD MAN WITH A VISIONARY CAPABLE OF
DEALING WITH THE DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS OF THIS CITY AND PLANNING TO AVOID FUTURE FAILURES AND SETBACKS WITH A QUARTER MILLION DOLLAR SALARY. 
          QUALIFIED PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE IN THE CITY MAY RUN FOR MAYOR,
HOPEFULLY WITH A STRONG BACKGROUND IN CIVIL ENGINEERING AND OR SUCCESSFUL HISTORY OF RUNNING A LARGE COMPANY CONTROLLING GROWTH. THAT'S THE SECOND PART. 
          CURRENTLY, THE STATE CONTROLS OUR DEVELOPMENT. 
          THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTAND. WE NEED TO HIRE LOBBYISTS THAT SPECIALIZE IN THIS. 
          SEND THEM UP TO TALLAHASSEE ON OUR BEHALF AND LOBBY FOR MORE CONTROL WITHIN OUR CITY. 
          LAST THING IS MY WISH. IF I COULD MAKE A WISH WOULD BE FOR A FIVE ACRE MORATORIUM ON ALL
RESIDENTIAL GROWTH AND IT WOULD BE SEWER AND WELL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. NEXT SPEAKER. 
          BILL BATTEN. BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST. THIS IS NOT MY NORMAL APPROACH THAT I TAKE UNDER PUBLIC
COMMENTS, BUT I'D LIKE TO WISH MY WIFE A HAPPY BIRTHDAY BECAUSE. 
          ALL RIGHT. I TRY. I TRIED TO CONVINCE HER THAT GOING TO COUNCIL MEETING WAS STILL A NIGHT OUT ON THE TOWN, BUT SHE. SHE FAILED TO SEE IT THAT WAY. 
          SO, HONEY. HAPPY BIRTHDAY. THANK YOU. KRISTEN. 
          LANSANA. OH, I COULDN'T GET AWAY WITH THAT ONE, MASTER CHIEF. 
          GOOD EVENING. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, CITY STAFF. 
          MY NAME IS KRISTEN LANSANA, A RESIDENT OF NORTHWEST PALM BAY. 
          TONIGHT, I'M USING MY PUBLIC COMMENT TIME TO BRING ATTENTION BACK TO THE UPCOMING FLOCK
CAMERA RENEWAL DISCUSSIONS. 
          AS I'VE SHARED BEFORE, WHEN IT COMES TO SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY,
THERE MUST BE TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY. 
          THE SYSTEM WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED THROUGH THE CONSENT AGENDA,
MEANING THERE WAS LIMITED PUBLIC AWARENESS AND NO MEANINGFUL PUBLIC DISCUSSION AT THE TIME. IT WAS ONLY YEARS LATER, AFTER RESIDENTS BEGAN NOTICING THE CAMERAS AND ASKING
QUESTIONS THAT REAL DISCUSSION BEGAN. 
          THE REALITY IS THAT PALM BAY IS SPENDING $2,500 PER CAMERA AND OVER 240,000 AS OF JANUARY
2026. 
          RESIDENTS DESERVE TO KNOW NOT ONLY THE COST,
BUT THAT TAX DOLLARS ARE BUILDING THIS SYSTEM AND WHETHER THE SYSTEM IS TRULY ALIGNED WITH OUR COMMUNITY VALUES AND EXPECTATIONS. THESE CAMERAS WERE PRESENTED AS AUTOMATIC LICENSE
PLATE READERS, BUT RECENT PUBLIC REPORTING AND INDEPENDENT DEMONSTRATIONS HAVE RAISED CONCERNS ABOUT
THESE SYSTEMS AND WHAT THEY MAY CAPTURE, AND THAT THEY MAY EXPOSE FAR MORE THAN LICENSE PLATES ALONE. 
          REPORTS HAVE INCLUDED UNAUTHORIZED FOOTAGE, FOOTAGE,
ACCESS AND PLACES SUCH AS GYMS, RECREATIONAL CENTERS, POOLS AND OTHER PRIVATE AND SEMI-PRIVATE LOCATIONS. 
          THAT SHOULD CONCERN EVERY ONE OF US. LOCALLY,
MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY HAVE ALREADY EXPERIENCED POLICE INTERACTIONS TIED TO MISIDENTIFICATIONS, CLERICAL ERRORS AND PRIOR DATABASE FLAGS. 
          ACROSS THE COUNTRY, THERE HAVE BEEN ADDITIONAL REPORTS OF INNOCENT FAMILIES AND RESIDENTS
BEING STOPPED OR QUESTIONED BECAUSE OF FALSE ALERTS OR FLAWED DATA. 
          WHEN TECHNOLOGY MEANT TO IMPROVE PUBLIC SAFETY BEGINS,
CREATING UNNECESSARY INTERACTIONS, FEAR AND ESCALATION. LEADERSHIP HAS A DUTY TO REASSESS ITS USE. 
          I'M ASKING COUNCIL TO LOOK CLOSELY AT THE REALITIES OF THE SYSTEM,
TO EXAMINE WHETHER PUBLIC TRUST HAS BEEN BROKEN, 
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AND TO SERIOUSLY CONSIDER ENDING PALM BAY USE OF FLOCK CAMERAS. 
          I ALSO ENCOURAGE MY FELLOW RESIDENTS TO ATTEND THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON THURSDAY,
MAY 21ST AT 6 P.M. 
          HERE AT CITY HALL. WHEN THIS ISSUE IS FINALLY SCHEDULED ON THE AGENDA FOR PUBLIC
DISCUSSION AFTER MANY MONTHS OF RESIDENTS ASKING QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER MICHAEL BRIODY. 
          MICHAEL MORIARTY 742 CORNELIA AVENUE. I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT. 
          I WAS GOING TO GIVE IT A CHANCE ON NOT READING THIS BY APPROACHING THE SUBJECT AND TRYING
TO SPEAK TO HIM, AND MAYBE EVEN CLEARING THIS UP IN PRIVATE. BUT I'M GOING TO TELL YOU SOMETHING. 
          WHAT I WHAT I HEARD SPOKE ARROGANCE TO ME. AND THAT DOESN'T FIT VERY WELL WITH ME. I'D LIKE TO REFLECT BACK TO JANUARY 8TH TO A SPEECH MADE BY MATTHEW MORTON FROM THIS DAIS ACCUSING TWO INDIVIDUALS OF ATTEMPTED EXTORTION OF A
PUBLIC OFFICIAL AFTER RECEIVING A COPY OF THE DRAFT THAT MR. MORTON READ FROM AND SORTING OUT THE NARRATIVE YOU TRIED PRESENTING THAT EVENING WITH THE
MANY NOTATIONS ON THAT DRAFT, REFERRING TO GETTING INDIVIDUAL APPROVAL OF COUNCIL MEMBERS AND OTHERS FIRST,
MR. MORTON EITHER BREACHED ATTORNEY CLIENT INFORMATION THROUGH ANOTHER PARTY AND USED IT TO
FIT HIS CAUSE OF SILENCING A CERTAIN INDIVIDUAL. 
          AS THE RUMOR HELD THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE CITY DEPARTMENTS OR. 
          HE SOUGHT APPROVAL FROM COUNCIL TO PULL THIS STUNT AS A SCARE TACTIC TO ATTEMPT TO SILENCE
TWO INDIVIDUALS, OR BOTH. MR. MORTON WENT AS FAR AS LOOKING AT COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL TO SEEK LEGAL ACTION
FOR THIS FALSE ACCUSATION OF EXTORTION. IT WAS EVEN RUMORED THAT THE CONTACTED THAT HE CONTACTED FDLE AND EVEN TRIED TO
COERCE SOMEONE INTO SPEAKING TO FDLE TO CORROBORATE THESE LIES. LET ME JUST SAY THIS. 
          I'VE BEEN WAITING TO RAISE MY RIGHT HAND AND PRESENT ALL THE DOCUMENTATION COLLECTED TO
SHOW WHAT I'M SAYING HERE THIS EVENING IS TRUE AND FACTUAL. 
          IF IN FACT HE WAS REFERRING TO ME, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER SAID HAD YOU JUST TOLD ME
STRAIGHT OUT, MICHAEL, I WAS NOT REFERRING TO YOU, BUT YOU MET ME WITH ARROGANCE UP THERE,
MATT. 
          THAT DOESN'T THAT'S NOT COOL WITH ME. EVERYONE INVOLVED REFERRED TO IN THE NOTATIONS WILL
COME OUT IN. 
          DETERMINATION OF INVOLVEMENT WILL BE MADE. WHAT I DO KNOW AT THIS POINT IS POSSIBLE
VIOLATIONS OF SUNSHINE AND A DEFINITE VIOLATION OF 42 U.S.C., SUBSECTION 1983, 11 H AND 11. I. A MADE UP NARRATIVE WAS USED THAT EVENING OF
JANUARY 8TH AS A THREAT AND COERCIVE TOOL TO SILENCE TWO INDIVIDUALS,
AND WE ALL KNOW WHO THESE TWO INDIVIDUALS ARE, BECAUSE I RECEIVED NUMEROUS CALLS THAT EVENING AT THIS POINT. 
          I ENCOURAGE THIS COUNCIL TO TAKE THE APPROPRIATE MEASURES,
BECAUSE CLARITY IS UNFOLDING AND IT'S UNFOLDING FAST WITH DOCUMENTS COMING BACK. 
          THANK YOU. YOU GUYS HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND. EFREN MOLINA. 
          SORRY, I'M A LITTLE SHORT. LET ME FIRST SAY I APOLOGIZE TO ANYONE IF THEY'RE OFFENDED. MY NAME IS EFREN MOLINA. I LIVE AT EIGHTH AVENUE AND I'M A RESIDENT OF PALM BAY. 
          TO QUOTE A COUNCILMAN. I AM DISGUSTED. WE SHOULD NOT STAND IDLY BY WHILE TERRORIST LAW
ENFORCEMENT UNDERMINE OUR WAY OF LIFE. 
          THE ATTACKS ON CITIZENS AND RETIRED OFFICERS SHOULD NOT GO UNNOTICED OR UNPUNISHED. 
          WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO ME CAN HAPPEN TO OTHER CITIZENS. 
          THOSE IN SERVICE ARE ACCOUNTABLE AND OATH BOUND TO ENSURE THE SECURITY OF THIS NATION'S
CITIZENS UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY. 
          ESTEEMED MEMBERS OF PALM BAY COUNCIL. CITIZENS AND LAW ENFORCEMENT. 
          THIS IS. OFFICER MONICA SHOOK BADGE NUMBER 282. 
          SHE BROKE THE LAW BY COMMITTING FALSIFICATION OF ILLEGAL DOCUMENTATION,
FRAUD, FAILURE OF LAW AND SERVICE, DELIBERATE PERJURY ALONG WITH OTHER OFFICERS FALSE STATEMENTS. 
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CHIEF ARGUELLO WANTED ME TO OVERLOOK HER MISCONDUCT IN MY PROCESS OF UNLAWFUL DETAINMENT. 
          I DIDN'T. FOR THE PAST FEW YEARS, POLICE ABUSED THE CITIZENS SUCH AS TAMARA HATCHER,
THOMAS FARLEY, SCOTT MCINTYRE AND LANCE FISHER HAVE GONE UNNOTICED AND UNAVENGED. 
          YOU SIT IN SESSION, DETACHED FROM THE REALITY OF THESE CIRCUMSTANCES,
DENYING CITIZENS TO CRITICIZE BOTH YOU AND YOUR LAW ENFORCEMENT ON YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTS. SPENDING A GOOD GUY NARRATIVE. I STAND AS EVIDENCE AND PROOF THAT YOU HAVE DONE
NOTHING OF THE SORT TO AID ME LIKE YOU'RE IN SOCIAL MEDIA INSISTED UPON. 
          YOU STATE THAT THIS IS A PURPLE HEART CITY FOR VETERANS. 
          AS A VETERAN, WHERE IS MY ASSISTANCE? YOU SAY WE MUST ROOT OUT EVIL AND MAYOR MEDINA YOU
STAND AS A JUDAS AMONG CHRISTIANS AND YOUR SERVICE MEMBERS IN THE MARINES. AS A VETERAN,
I CAME TO YOU FOR HELP AND I'M STILL HERE. 
          YOU ARE ALL TERRIFIED. IF ONE OF US STANDS UP AGAINST YOU AND THAT ALL YOU'VE DONE WRONG
WILL COME FORWARD. AS A VETERAN, I WAS TRAINED NOT TO FEAR MY ENEMIES. AS A SON,
I WAS TAUGHT NOT TO FEAR BULLIES. 
          THE TRUTH MAY HURT. AND UNTIL JUSTICE IS SERVED,
I WILL PROTEST. 
          I WILL FIGHT AND I'LL WIN. AS MY MILITARY TRAINING HAS TAUGHT ME,
UNTIL MY HONOR AND JUSTICE HAS BEEN RESTORED, I WILL BE AT EVERY COUNCIL MEETING UNTIL OFFICER MONICA SHOOK HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO JUSTICE. 
          FURTHER, I BELIEVE UNDER STATE STATUTE, IF A CITIZEN IS INNOCENT AND NOT GUILTY FOR A
CRIME, THEY ARE ENTITLED TO A MINIMUM OF $200,000 IN COMPENSATION. 
          IF YOU CAN PAY A COUNCILMAN FOR DEFAMATION, YOU CAN EASILY PAY A VETERAN AND HIS MOTHER
COMPENSATION FOR THE DAMAGE IS DONE. 
          YOU HAVE SIX MONTHS TO CONDUCT AN INVESTIGATION ON OFFICER SHOOK. CHIEF OF THE PALM BAY
POLICE DEPARTMENT. IF I AM DENIED. 
          IF THE RESULTS ARE NOT FAIR AND SETTLED, I WILL GIVE YOU THE EQUAL OPPORTUNITY TO CONDUCT
AN INVESTIGATION. 
          I WILL SEEK LAWSUIT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. 
          THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, JOHN MCGEE. I PRESENT YOU WITH THE CLAIM PER STATUTE. 
          PASS IT DOWN TO THE CLERK, PLEASE. EXCUSE ME. 
          JOHN MCGEE, 1991 THORNWOOD DRIVE, BAYSIDE LAKES. 
          NO SCOOTER TONIGHT. IN GENERAL, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT. 
          WHEN I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL, I TOOK A COURSE ON DRIVER EDUCATION AND ONE OF THE ELEMENTS
THAT WAS BROUGHT UP DURING THAT COURSE WAS OVERDRIVING YOUR HEADLIGHTS. 
          NOW, WHERE I LIVED IN WESTERN MARYLAND, THAT COULD BE VERY DANGEROUS AT NIGHT BECAUSE WE
HAD A LOT OF HILLS AND A LOT OF VALLEYS, CURVES. AND THE ESSENCE OF THAT WAS THAT WE'RE GOING TOO FAST TO BE SAFE AND TO BE ABLE TO
DEAL WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING AS FAR AS A DRIVER GOES. WELL, I THINK PALM BAY WERE OVERDRIVING OUR HEADLIGHTS. 
          WE'RE GROWING SO FAST AND SO RAMPANT THAT WE'RE NOT ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH THE ESSENTIAL
ELEMENTS THAT EITHER MAINTAIN OR IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE CHOSEN TO LIVE HERE. 
          WE MOVED HERE IN 2016. THERE WERE COWS ON PALM BAY ROAD THEN. 
          WELL, I THINK THOSE COWS WOULD BE PRETTY DANGER BY NOW. 
          BUT THE ESSENCE OF MY COMMENTS ARE, IS THAT WHILE WE CAN MAKE IMPROVEMENTS IN TECHNOLOGY,
WHILE WE CAN MAKE IMPROVEMENTS IN BUILDING AND PROVIDING SERVICES. WE'RE NOT KEEPING UP WITH THE DEMAND THAT WE ARE CREATING OURSELVES BY
GROWING SO FAST. 
          WHEN IT TAKES 20 MINUTES TO GET AN AMBULANCE,
THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE. 
          WHEN WE HAVE A DEFICIENCY IN THE NUMBER OF POLICE OFFICERS,
THAT'S THAT'S NOT SUFFICIENT. 
          SO I'M ASKING THE COUNCIL TO WHEN YOU LOOK AT APPROVAL OF DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH,
LOOK AT ALL THE ESSENTIAL ELEMENTS. 
          AND I THINK YOU HAVE BEEN DOING THAT RECENTLY,
WHICH I HAVE SEEN A BIG IMPROVEMENT ON. 
          BUT WE HAVE ROADS, WE HAVE WATER, WE HAVE SEWER,
WE HAVE PUBLIC SAFETY, WE HAVE SCHOOLS, WE HAVE OTHER THINGS, PARKS, RECREATION FACILITIES. AND WE'RE GOING SO FAST THAT WE CAN'T KEEP UP,
ESPECIALLY WITH THE PUBLIC SAFETY END OF THINGS. 
          I SPENT 31 YEARS WORKING WITH PUBLIC SAFETY AGENCIES ALL OVER THE WORLD,
MOSTLY ON A TECHNOLOGY SIDE, AND TECHNOLOGY WILL HELP YOU GET THE INFORMATION AND DISPATCH YOUR RESOURCES. 
          BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES OR YOU DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO GET THERE ON TIME. 
          THEN YOU DON'T TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE RESOURCES THAT YOU'VE BEEN PROVIDED. 
          SO I'M ASKING YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT EVERYTHING IN TOTAL. 
          EVERY TIME YOU APPROVE A NEW DEVELOPMENT, LOOK AT WHAT THAT IMPACTS NOT ONLY THE NEW
DEVELOPMENT, BUT THE PEOPLE WHO ALREADY LIVE THERE. THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT MOVED HERE FOR A REASON,
AND NOW THEIR LIVES ARE BEING DRAMATICALLY IMPACTED BY THE LACK OF RESOURCES AND THE LACK OF THE ABILITY TO EVEN DRIVE AROUND THE CITY AND TAKE 20 OR 30 MINUTES TO GET FROM ONE END
TO THE OTHER. 
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SO I'M HOPING THAT WE LOOK AT THINGS IN TOTAL,
NOT JUST BY A DEVELOPER COMING FORWARD BECAUSE HE WANTS TO BUILD 1000 HOMES SOMEPLACE. 
          LOOK AT THE CITY. LOOK AT THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE. 
          LOOK AT THE IMPACT ON THEM. AND WE'RE READY TO WORK WITH THE CITY AS CITIZENS. 
          BUT I HOPE OUR INPUT IS INITIATED UPFRONT WHEN THESE THINGS COME AHEAD,
INSTEAD OF SIX MONTHS DOWN THE ROAD AFTER THE DEVELOPERS HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY. SO I LOVE LIVING HERE AND I AM PROUD TO LIVE HERE. 
          BUT WE GOT TO GET A HANDLE ON THINGS OR WE'RE GOING TO OVERDRIVE OUR HEADLIGHTS. 
          THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. KEN DELGADO. 
          KENDALL. GOT A 154 ANGELO ROAD. ALSO PASTOR OF THE HOUSE AND THOUGHT I'D GIVE AN
ENCOURAGING WORD TO YOU ALL AS OUR LEADERS IN JEREMIAH. THERE'S A VERSE IN VERSE 29 THAT I THINK REALLY APPLIES FOR US,
NOT JUST INDIVIDUALLY, BUT YOU ALL AS YOU LEAD US. IT SAYS, SEEK THE WELFARE OF YOUR CITY WHERE I'VE SENT YOU,
AND PRAY TO THE LORD ON ITS BEHALF, FOR IN ITS WELFARE YOU WILL FIND YOUR WELFARE. 
          AND THE KEY WORD THERE IS PRAY. I ALWAYS SAY,
IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A CHANGE, A MEETING INTO A SUPERNATURAL MEETING IS PRAY FIRST. 
          ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO PRAY FOR OUR CITY OFFICIALS. 
          PRAY FOR YOUR TEAM MEMBERS TO PRAY FOR EACH OTHER. 
          PRAY AND LET GOD BEGIN TO WORK SUPERNATURALLY IN IN THE LIVES HERE IN YOUR LIVES AND IN
THE LIVES OF OUR CITY. PEOPLE IN, IN DEUTERONOMY CHAPTER EIGHT,
THERE'S ANOTHER VERSE THAT I'D LIKE TO TOUCH VERY QUICKLY BECAUSE TIME IS SHORT. IT SAYS TAKE CARE LEST YOU FORGET GOD BY NOT KEEPING HIS COMMANDMENTS,
HIS RULE, HIS STATUTES, WHICH I COMMAND YOU TODAY, LEST WHEN YOU HAVE EATEN AND ARE FULL,
AND HAVE BUILT GOOD HOUSES AND LIVE IN THEM, WHEN YOUR HERDS AND FLOCKS MULTIPLY, YOUR SILVER AND GOLD IS MULTIPLIED,
ALL IS MULTIPLIED THAT YOUR HEART BE LIFTED UP. 
          AND FORGET THE LORD YOUR GOD, WHO BROUGHT YOU OUT OF THE LAND OF EGYPT. 
          IT GOES ON. BUT TO SAY THIS SOMETIMES THIS SCRIPTURE CAN BE SIMPLY UNDERSTOOD AS THIS. 
          WHEN WE GET COMFORTABLE, WE FORGET TO PRAY. WHEN WE GET AT EASE WITH ALL THE GOOD THAT IS
HAPPENING, WHEN WE HAVE OUR STOMACHS FULL, WE TEND TO JUST GO INTO A DAILY ROUTINE OF GO TO WORK,
COME HOME FROM WORK, ENJOY THE EVENING, AND YOU DO THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN. 
          AND REALLY, IN REALITY, WE SPENT THE WHOLE DAY AND WE FOUGHT FORGOT ONE IMPORTANT THING. 
          DID WE REMEMBER GOD IN THE PROCESS? DID WE ACTUALLY PRAY? DID WE ACTUALLY SEEK GOD FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PEOPLE? AND SO, AS WE PRAY FOR YOU AND I DO PRAY, PRAY THAT GOD'S WISDOM BE ON YOUR LIVES AS IT
WAS ON THE INVOCATION THAT YOUR HEARTS WOULD BE LIKE THE RIVER THAT'S TURNED TOWARDS TOWARDS WHAT GOD WANTS. BUT THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN IF WE DON'T STOP AND TAKE TEN MINUTES,
15 MINUTES, PRAY AND THEN LISTEN. BECAUSE IF YOU'RE TALKING TO GOD,
HE'S GOT ANSWERS AND HE'LL HAVE DIRECTIONS AND HE'LL TELL YOU WHAT TO DO. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. MARCELO ROJAS. 
          MARCELLA. 
          MARCELLA ROJAS, PALM BAY RESIDENT. GOOD EVENING,
MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS, CITY MANAGER, AND CITIZENS OF PALM BAY. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT OF ANTI-TRAFFICKING EFFORTS THROUGHOUT THE
PROCLAMATION AND THE RED SAND EVENT THIS PAST JANUARY. 
          THANK YOU AS WELL, MR. MAYOR AND DETECTIVE GRAVES,
FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THE SPACE COAST HUMAN TRAFFICKING TASK FORCE. 
          IT IS AN HONOR TO SERVE ALONGSIDE YOU. NOW, IN APRIL,
WE RECOGNIZE NATIONAL CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION MONTH AS A PALM BAY RESIDENT AND BOARD MEMBER OF A NEW LIFE INTERNATIONAL FOUNDED BY KIM CURRY,
A NONPROFIT SERVING THIS COMMUNITY AND BEYOND. 
          I'M HERE TO ASK THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER A COORDINATED STRATEGY THAT MAKES PALM BAY A MUCH
HARDER PLACE FOR TRAFFICKING TO OPERATE THROUGH PREVENTION, DETECTION, ENFORCEMENT AND SURVIVOR SUPPORT. 
          WORKING TOGETHER FIRST, INVEST IN TARGETED TRAINING,
FRONTLINE WORKERS, LAW ENFORCEMENT, CODE INSPECTORS, 
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HOSPITALITY STAFF AND HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS,
AND SCHOOL PERSONNEL ARE MOST LIKELY TO ENCOUNTER TRAFFICKING. 
          YET MANY, LIKE, LACK THE TOOLS TO RECOGNIZE AND RESPOND. 
          EXPANDING EDUCATION. EDUCATION FOR PARENTS, CAREGIVERS AND YOUTH ALSO REDUCES
VULNERABILITY, ESPECIALLY IN TODAY'S DIGITAL ENVIRONMENT. SECOND,
STRENGTHEN OVERSIGHT IN HIGH RISK INDUSTRIES. 
          HOTELS, SHORT TERM RENTALS, MASSAGE BUSINESSES AND LABOR HEAVY SECTORS CAN BE BETTER
MONITORED THROUGH STRONGER LICENSING, ROUTINE COMPLIANCE CHECKS AND CLEAR REPORTING PROTOCOLS. 
          DISRUPTING TRAFFICKING WITHOUT BURDENING THE LEGITIMATE BUSINESSES. 
          THIRD, IMPROVE COORDINATION AND DATA SHARING CASES OFTEN FALL THROUGH THE CRACKS WHEN
INFORMATION IS SILOED. 
          STRONGER COLLABORATION BETWEEN LAW ENFORCEMENT,
NONPROFITS, HEALTHCARE, SCHOOLS, AND PROSECUTORS IS ESSENTIAL. 
          FOURTH, SUPPORT SURVIVORS MEANINGFULLY. WITHOUT SAFE HOUSING,
LEGAL AID AND JOB PATHWAYS, VICTIMS ARE AT HIGH RISK FOR RETRAFFICKING. PARTNERING WITH VETTED NONPROFITS FOR TRAUMA
INFORMED CARE IS ESSENTIAL TO BREAKING THE CYCLE. 
          FIFTH, REDUCE DEMAND STRONGER, STRONGER PENALTIES FOR BUYERS. 
          I'LL SAY THAT AGAIN. STRONGER PENALTIES FOR THE BUYERS. 
          PUBLIC AWARENESS AND DIVERSION PROGRAMS MATTER. 
          AS THE MAYOR STATED IN JANUARY, IF DEMAND STOPS,
TRAFFICKING STOPS FINAL. 
          FINALLY, LEVERAGE TECHNOLOGY. ANONYMOUS TIP LINES,
DATA TRAFFIC TRAFFICKING AND BACKGROUND SCREENING PROCESSES AND PARTNERSHIPS CAN STRENGTHEN PREVENTION AND DETECTION. TRAFFICKING IS NOT A SINGLE DEPARTMENT ISSUE. 
          IT'S A SYSTEMS ISSUE THAT REQUIRES A COORDINATED,
SUSTAINED RESPONSE AND NEWS. 
          A NEW LIFE INTERNATIONAL ANNUAL GALA IS ON THURSDAY,
APRIL 30TH, AND WE INVITE YOU AND THE COMMUNITY TO ATTEND, LEARN MORE AND JOIN THE EFFORT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR COMMITMENT TO PROTECTING
THE CHILDREN AND RESIDENTS OF PALM BAY. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO. SO. COUNCILMAN. COUNCILMAN. 
          JOHNSON. I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO WEIGH IN ON SOMETHING YOU YOU'VE YOU'VE BUZZED IN,
BUT I JUST WANT TO. 
          FOR THE RECORD, I SAID ON THE SPACE COAST HUMAN TRAFFICKING TASK FORCE IN MY ROLE AS
REPRESENTATIVE FOR CONGRESSMAN BILL POSEY AND I'VE HOSTED SEVERAL ALONG WITH THE CONGRESSMAN,
HOSTED SEVERAL CONFERENCES, ANTI-HUMAN TRAFFICKING SYMPOSIUMS. AND IN THAT, I BECAME VERY AWARE OF EVERYTHING WITHIN HUMAN TRAFFICKING,
HOW SUBTLE IT MAY SEEM, HOW AND IT'S TAKEN, YOU KNOW, YEARS OF TRAINING TO,
TO IDENTIFY MANY OF THE THINGS THAT WAS MENTIONED JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO IS PRETTY MUCH STATE LEGISLATION WISE, RIGHT TO WITH THE STATE LEGISLATURE. 
          HOWEVER IN THAT I DID GRASS AND LEAN TOWARDS SOMETHING THAT I THINK NOT ONLY ARE LAW
ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS AND THEY MENTIONED DETECTIVE JENNIFER GRAVES,
WHO, BY THE WAY, HAS BEEN IMPECCABLE THROUGH YEARS OF SERVICE REPRESENTING THE CITY OF PALM BAY, NOT ONLY ON THAT TASK FORCE, BUT WITHIN HER KNOWLEDGE OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING. 
          BUT SHE MENTIONED CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS THEY MAY BE AWARE OF SEEING SOMETHING. 
          AND I KNOW THAT THEY HAVE THIS TASK FORCE HAS TRAINED HOSPITAL NURSES URGENT CARE
FACILITIES TO BECOME MORE AWARE OF, OF THOSE VICTIMS THAT ARE BEING TRAFFICKED. SO I WOULD,
I WOULD, YOU KNOW, VENTURE TO SAY WITH, WITH COUNCIL'S GUIDANCE, PERHAPS WE COULD DISCUSS THIS ON THE REPORTS,
BUT MAYBE HAVE OUR, OUR TEAMS THAT ARE CONSTANTLY GOING OUT THERE,
OUR UTILITIES DEPARTMENT, IF THEY CAN BE AWARE AND, YOU KNOW, THE EXTRA EYES TO PROTECT THE HUMAN LIFE IN PARTICULAR WHEN THERE ARE SO MANY
CHILDREN THAT ARE VICTIMS OF LATE. 
          MAYBE WE COULD JOIN THAT EFFORT IN IN MOVING AND PROTECTING NOT ONLY FAMILIES,
BUT THOSE VICTIMS OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING. 
          SO THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS, SIR. GO AHEAD. I KNOW YOU WANTED TO WAIT. 
          YES, SIR. SO, MAYOR. I'LL SAY I'M DEFINITELY IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT. THE MORE EYES THAT
ARE EDUCATED, THE BETTER. SO WHAT I WAS GOING TO REFER TO WAS THE CITY ATTORNEY A YEAR OR TWO, I BELIEVE TWO YEARS AGO, WE WORKED WITH TRAVIS WALKER IN REGARDS TO THE AI DETECTION
SYSTEM THAT HE HAD FOR HUMAN TRAFFICKING IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY. 
          AND I REMEMBER I REACHED OUT TO YOU, CITY ATTORNEY,
TO SEE IF YOU WERE ABLE TO GET AHOLD OF HIM, TO SEE WHERE THEY WERE WITH WORKING WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT ON THAT. DO YOU HAVE AN
UPDATE? WE DID MEET CHIEF ARGUELLO AND I HAD PREVIOUSLY MET WITH THE ATTORNEY. 
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WE WERE THE FIRST CITY TO JOIN. I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OTHERS. 
          THE TECHNOLOGY CERTAINLY WAS A DIFFERENT APPROACH. 
          SO HE'S STILL WORKING THROUGH SOME MEASURES THAT WE NEED IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO BRING A
CASE FORWARD. 
          OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WELL, IF WE CAN JUST GET AN UPDATE SOMETIME SOON,
THAT WILL BE APPRECIATED. 
          THANK YOU. SO, GENTLEMEN, PERHAPS WE'LL DISCUSS THIS LATER. 
          DEPUTY MAYOR, THAT CONCLUDES THE CARDS, MAYOR. 
          OKAY. WELL, I MEAN, IF IF YOU GUYS GIVE A THUMBS UP NOW,
I'D BE GOOD. 
          SO MR. MORTON, PLEASE KNOW THAT GETTING OUR EMPLOYEES TRAINED UP SOMEHOW. 
          I BELIEVE THERE ARE CLASSES. MAYBE WE COULD LEAN ON THE. 
          IT'S CALLED THE SPACE COAST HUMAN TRAFFICKING TASK FORCE AND LEAN ON SOME OF THEIR
TRAINING FOR SOME OF OUR EMPLOYEES THAT ARE OUT IN THE FIELD. 
          ALL RIGHT, SO WE'RE NOW ON CONSENT ITEMS. DEPUTY MAYOR. 
          [APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA:]
NO CARDS. MAYOR, I NEED A MOTION OR COUNCIL. ANY. 
          TWO AND THREE. TWO AND THREE. ALSO, MAYOR. OKAY,
SO WE'RE PULLING TWO AND THREE. 
          YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I STILL NEED A MOTION. 
          MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM WITH THE REMOVALS OF ITEMS TWO AND THREE. 
          SECOND. I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON,
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE NOW ON PUBLIC HEARING,
MADAM SMITH. 
          [PUBLIC HEARINGS:]
THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ARE QUASI JUDICIAL IN NATURE PUBLIC HEARING AGENDA ITEMS NUMBERS ONE,
TWO AND FOUR. 
          ANY PERSON WHO WISHES TO TESTIFY IN SUCH A MATTER MUST SIGN A SPEAKER CARD WHICH CONTAINS
A SWORN OATH. 
          TO TELL THE TRUTH, ANY SPEAKER MAY BE SUBJECT TO CROSS-EXAMINATION BY THE COUNCIL OR ANY
OTHER INTERESTED PARTY. 
          ATTORNEYS WHO ARE APPEARING ON BEHALF OF A PARTY AND NOT PROVIDING TESTIMONIAL EVIDENCE,
ARE NOT CONSIDERED WITNESSES AND NEED NOT BE SWORN. 
          ANY INDIVIDUAL ADDRESSING THE COUNCIL MUST STATE HIS OR HER NAME AND CONFIRM THAT A
SPEAKER CARD HAS BEEN SIGNED. 
          THE ORDER OF THE PROCEEDING WILL BE AS FOLLOWS. 
          FIRST, STAFF WILL MAKE ITS PRESENTATION, FOLLOWED BY THE APPLICANT,
FOLLOWED BY ANY OTHER INTERESTED PARTY. 
          THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE ALLOWED CONCLUDING REMARKS TO HEARING WILL BE CLOSED AND NO
ADDITIONAL TESTIMONY OR ARGUMENT WILL BE ALLOWED. THE COUNCIL WILL DELIBERATE IN PUBLIC. 
          AT THE END OF DELIBERATION, THE COUNCIL MEMBER WILL MAKE A MOTION ON THE APPLICATION FOR
THE PURPOSE OF BRINGING THE MATTER TO A VOTE. EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER IS THEN FREE TO VOTE IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION. THANK YOU MA'AM. 
          I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND DEFER TO MR. MORTON. THANK YOU. MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL ASKED STAFF TO COME UP TO PRESENT THIS ITEM
TONIGHT. 
          THANK YOU, MISS JEFFERSON. GOOD EVENING. THE FIRST CASE THAT YOU'RE HEARING TONIGHT IS. 
          A REQUEST FOR A VARIANCE TO ALLOW A PROPOSED SCREEN ROOM TO BE REPLACED. 
          THE APPLICANT IS THE PROPERTY IS IS ON ABOUT A QUARTER ACRE OF A LOT. 
          AND IT'S ZONED RS TWO. IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE SCREEN,
YOU'LL SEE THAT THE LOCATION OF THE POOL, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO. WHICH IS ALONG THE NORTH OF THE YELLOW LINE. 
          THERE WE GO RIGHT HERE. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THE EDGE OF THE POOL. 
          THAT LINE IS ACTUALLY REPRESENTATIVE OF WHERE THE SCREEN ENCLOSURE YOU HAVE TO STAY,
WHERE THE MIC, WHERE THE SCREEN ENCLOSURE SHOULD BE LOCATED ACCORDING TO OUR REGULATIONS. 
          HOWEVER, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE POOL ITSELF WAS CONSTRUCTED JUST OUTSIDE OF THAT. 
          SO IN ORDER TO SCREEN IT THE FORMER OWNERS DID PUT IN A SCREEN WITH FRAMING WITHOUT A
PERMIT. 
          AND THAT IS WHY THE APPLICANT TODAY IS ASKING FOR A 4.5FT RELIEF FOR THE VARIANCE WHICH IS
REQUIRED, WHICH IS OVER EIGHT FEET. STAFF FOUND THAT THE HARDSHIP WAS JUSTIFIED. 
          THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD RECOMMENDED THAT YOU APPROVE THE REQUEST. 
          AND TODAY, STAFF IS ASKING FOR YOU TO APPROVE OR DENY,
AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT. 
          AND I WILL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. I DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL. 
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DOES THE APPLICANT WANT TO PRESENT THIS CASE? THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. COUNCILMAN, WOULD YOU PLEASE GET ON THE MICROPHONE? MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL PERSONS. ATTORNEYS. MY NAME IS VALERIE MCFARLAND,
AND I'M THE PRESIDENT AND OWNER OF THE PROPERTY AT 299 EVERGREEN STREET NORTHEAST IN PALM BAY. I BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY IN 2011,
AND I HAD TITLE INSURANCE, WHICH SHOULD HAVE MADE SURE THAT EVERYTHING WAS IN ORDER. EVERYTHING CAME BACK CLEAR,
AND THIS POOL WAS THERE, AND THE SCREEN AND THE SLAB AND EVERYTHING WAS THERE. IT'S OLD. IT'S TORN MANY TIMES AND I'VE HAD IT REPLACED. 
          POSSUM COMING IN. IN MY POOL AND DEFECATING IN THERE. 
          AND I'VE HAD TO EMPTY IT AND REFILL IT. NOW IT HAS HOLES AND I NEED TO REPLACE IT THERE. 
          THE PREMISES IS NOT FENCED, AND IF IT'S NOT SCREENED,
THERE'S A POSSIBILITY OF A SMALL CHILD COMING WANDERING IN THAT POOL AND DROWNING. 
          AND I WILL BE RESPONSIBLE AND LIABLE. AND AS A RETIRED NURSE,
I COULDN'T LIVE WITH THAT ON MY CONSCIENCE. 
          IN ADDITION TO THAT, I'VE DONE EVERYTHING I CAN TO IMPROVE THAT PROPERTY,
AND I NEED TO BE A JOY TO BE ABLE TO ENJOY IT, AND I CAN'T IF I DON'T HAVE THE SCREEN REPLACED. 
          NOTHING LASTS FOREVER, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT WAS THERE,
BUT IF I WERE THE OWNER INITIALLY, I WOULD HAVE MADE SURE THAT I HAVE THE PROPER PERMITS. 
          I'M THE FIRST OF SIX CHILDREN, AND I FOLLOW ALL THE RULES AND SET AN EXAMPLE FOR MY
SIBLINGS THAT COME AFTER ME. 
          SO IT'S NOT IN MY NATURE THAT I WOULD HAVE HAD A POOL SCREENED WITHOUT THE PROPER PAPERS
AND AUTHORITY TO DO IT. 
          SO NOW I NEED YOUR ASSISTANCE. THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE LAST MAY. 
          LAST YEAR, MAY, AND AT FIRST WHEN IT WAS REJECTED,
I WENT TO CITY HALL OVER BY WINN-DIXIE AND EXPLAINED WHAT WAS GOING ON, AND I TOLD HER I HAD TO APPLY FOR A VARIANCE. 
          I DID ALL THE PAPERWORK. I GOT ALL THE LETTERS FROM TILLMAN CANAL AND UTILITIES,
AT&T AND FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT AND AND SPECTRUM SEND IT IN. CAME TO THE TWO CITY COUNCIL MEETING IN DECEMBER AT AN
APPROVAL LETTER, SENT IT TO THE THE PEOPLE WHO WERE SUPPOSED TO DO THE SCREEN ONLY TO HAVE IT
REJECTED. 
          THEN AGAIN, NOBODY TOLD ME THAT THERE WAS SOMETHING ELSE FOR ME TO DO. 
          I HAD TO PAY EXTRA SURVEY TO HAVE THE DIMENSIONS OF THE SPECIFIC TO THE POOL,
EVEN THOUGH IT HAD A SURVEY DONE THE MONTH BEFORE. SO THAT WAS AN EXTRA $370 TO DO THAT. 
          THEN I HAD TO PAY FOR THE PERMIT APPLICATION,
WHICH IS 180 SOMETHING DOLLARS. 
          AND THEN WHEN IT CAME THROUGH AND I SENT IT TO LAFFERTY IN DECEMBER,
AFTER ATTENDING THE TWO COUNCIL MEETINGS WHICH PASSED UNANIMOUSLY HERE, LAFFERTY TOLD ME SOMETHING WAS WRONG. THEY COULDN'T GO FORWARD. 
          IT WAS REJECTED AGAIN AND I COULDN'T UNDERSTAND WHY. 
          I CALLED THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE SEVERAL TIMES BECAUSE I. 
          I DECIDED I HAD TO SPEAK TO SOMEBODY WHO HAD SOME AUTHORITY TO TELL ME WHAT WAS GOING ON,
AND I WAS TOLD THAT I NEED TO DO ANOTHER PERMIT. OR WHY DIDN'T THEY TELL ME LAST TIME WHEN I DID THE OTHER ONE,
NOBODY TOLD ME ANYTHING. 
          SO I. I DON'T REMEMBER THE YOUNG LADY'S NAME. 
          NOW SHE'S ASSISTANT TO SOME DIRECTOR, INVITED ME INTO HER OFFICE HERE IN PALM BAY
UPSTAIRS, AND I CAME IN AND MET WITH HER, AND SHE SAT DOWN WITH ME AND A COUPLE OF HER STAFF AND
EXPLAINED TO ME THAT THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE PEOPLE THAT DID IT BEFORE DID NOT HAVE THE PERMITS, AND THAT IT'S OVER 3.5FT INTO THE EASEMENT WHERE NOTHING SHOULD BE BUILT. AND I SAID,
WELL, THEY I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENED. 
          THE THE POOL IS AT THE EDGE. IN OTHER WORDS,
THIS IS THE LINE WHERE NOTHING SHOULD BE BUILT FURTHER. 
          THE POOL ITSELF IS AT THAT EDGE. SO THAT MEANS THE THE SLAB TO GO AROUND THE POOL HAVE TO
BE A LITTLE FURTHER BY THREE FEET BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO WALK AROUND THE POOL TO TAKE CARE OF
IT, CLEAN IT AND ALL THAT. AND SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND. 
          SO I HAD TO WRITE A LETTER AND I HAD TO PAY $500 FOR ANOTHER PERMIT. 
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AND HERE I AM. I WENT TO ONE CITY COUNCIL MEETING THE 1ST OF APRIL. 
          THIS IS THE 16TH, THE LAST ONE. I HOPE THIS IS THE LAST OF IT. 
          THANK YOU MA'AM. I BELIEVE THE COUNCIL MEMBER HAS A QUESTION FOR YOU,
MA'AM. 
          THANK YOU FOR SHARING ALL THAT. AND THIS IS SOMETHING WE'RE SEEING MORE AND MORE. MY
QUESTION IS MORE SO FOR STAFF, SPECIFICALLY OUR CITY ATTORNEY. AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS AND WE'VE REMOVED SOME,
WE'VE ATTEMPTED TO REMOVE SOME BARRIERS FOR THE RESIDENTS, BUT WE'RE COMING UP WITH THE UPDATING OF OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. 
          WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO IN REGARDS TO EXPANDING BY RIGHT ALLOWANCES FOR LIKE COMMON
RESIDENTIAL IMPROVEMENTS, FENCES, POOLS OR JUST THE ABILITY TO. MR. MCFARLAND,
I THOUGHT HE HAD A QUESTION FOR YOU. 
          HE HAS A QUESTION FOR STAFF. DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR YOUR COMMENTS? THANK YOU KINDLY, SIR. MA'AM. GO AHEAD AND HAVE A SEAT. 
          STAY. STAY NEARBY. AND IF WE NEED YOU AGAIN,
WE'LL WE'LL ASK YOU TO COME BACK UP. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OR JUST MAKING THESE MAKING THESE ADMINISTRATIVELY. 
          AND THEN WHEN IT COMES TO A RESIDENT WHO DISAGREES WITH ADMINISTRATIVE STANCE ON THE
PROJECT, THEN THEY CAN REQUEST TO BE SEEN BY THE CITY COUNCIL OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE. 
          IF YOU IT'S ONE AFTER ANOTHER AND I KNOW IT'S WHAT EVERYTHING SHE'S EXPLAINING,
WE'VE HEARD IT OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS. 
          I THINK HERS WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT IN AS MUCH AS IT WAS NOT. 
          IT'S NONCONFORMING. THERE. THERE WAS NO PERMIT PULLED. 
          ORIGINALLY, ORIGINALLY BACK IN THE DAY. THE SCREEN. 
          AND HER REPAIRS IN THE PAST DIDN'T REQUIRE A BUILDING PERMIT OF ANY SORT BECAUSE SHE WAS
JUST REPAIRING. 
          IN THIS CASE, SHE'S REFRAMING BECAUSE OF THE AGE OF THE FRAMING FOR THE SCREEN. 
          AND SO HER CONTRACTOR CAME IN TO APPLY FOR THAT PERMIT,
KNOWING THAT IT WAS REQUIRED FOR THE FRAMING TO BE REPLACED. 
          SO THAT IS WHEN WE CHECKED IN THE SYSTEM, THE PREVIOUS OWNER HAD APPLIED FOR A PERMIT. 
          IT WAS IN THE RECORD. AND HE NEVER CAME BACK AFTER HE WAS GIVEN COMMENTS THAT HE WAS IN
THE SETBACK. 
          OKAY. I STILL FEEL THE SAME WAY BECAUSE EACH MEETING WE'RE SEEING 1 OR 2 RESIDENTS,
HUSBAND AND WIFE COMING UP, WAITING FOR 2 OR 3 HOURS ON SOMETHING THAT COULD HAVE BEEN HANDLED,
I FEEL, BY Y'ALL. 
          AND IF THEY. YEAH. AND THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH PLANNING AND ZONING AND THEY HAVE TO GO
THROUGH US AND TWO HEARINGS. 
          SO I'M JUST LOOKING TO TRY TO, YOU KNOW, ALLEVIATE,
ALLEVIATE SOME PRESSURE OFF THE RESIDENTS IN THIS AREA. 
          THAT'S ALL THAT'S NOTED, BROTHER. WE WE HAVE GONE THROUGH THERE,
I THINK, IN THIS ONE. 
          I HAVE A SOLUTION. I THINK IT'S TWO SEPARATE,
TWO SEPARATE THINGS. 
          RIGHT. BUT YOU'RE SPOT ON. IF FOR EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH. 
          COUNCILMAN HAMMEL DID I HEAR HER SAY CORRECTLY THAT SHE WENT THROUGH TWO DIFFERENT
PERMITTING BEFORE WE LET HER KNOW SOMETHING WAS WRONG? YES YES YES YES YES YES YES. SO WITHOUT MAKING THE ANSWER TOO LONG. MRS. MCFARLANE WAS HERE IN THESE CHAMBERS LATE LAST YEAR SOMETIME. 
          YEAH. FOR. MA'AM, DON'T. PLEASE DON'T CALL OUT,
PLEASE, IF YOU WANT TO COME BACK UP, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME. 
          BUT PLEASE DON'T CALL OUT TO HAVE THE EASEMENT VACATED AT THAT TIME. 
          COMMENTS WERE BEING MADE ON THE BUILDING PERMIT PUBLIC WORKS. 
          WHO HANDLES THAT APPLICATION AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT AND DEVELOPMENT? WERE NOT TALKING TO ONE ANOTHER. REALIZING THIS CASE,
WE HAVE CHANGED OUR PROCESS AND MY STAFF. 
          WHEN WE SEE A. A VACATION OF AN EASEMENT A UTILITY EASEMENT. 
          WE'RE CHECKING TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE ANY VARIANCE,
ANY SETBACK ISSUES FOR THAT ITEM. 
          IF THE EASEMENT VACATION BEING REQUESTED IS REGARDING,
YOU KNOW, RESIDENTIAL HOMES. 
          SO WE'RE DOING BETTER WITH THAT. IN ADDITION TO THAT,
I DO HAVE A SUGGESTION TO MAKE THIS PROCESS EASIER IN A CASE WHERE SOMEONE'S HAD THE HOME FOR A DECADE OR SO AND NOT REALIZE THAT ILLEGAL WORK WAS DONE,
AND THAT WOULD BE TO UPDATE THE CODE AND AUTHORIZE YOUR PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD TO HAVE FINAL AUTHORITY ON THOSE
CASES. 
          THAT WAY IT WOULD JUST BE ONE HEARING AND NOT. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S GOING RIGHT ALONG WITH COUNCILMAN JOHNSON'S ASSESSMENT OF THE,
YOU KNOW, 
          [01:10:02]
JUST ITS OVERALL THAT WE, WE'VE EXPERIENCED LATELY. 
          BUT THIS, IT IS UNIQUE IN, IN AS MUCH AS SHE HAS HAD THE HOUSE AND SHE PURCHASED IT AND,
AND AS SHE SAID THE TITLE, THE TITLE COMPANY SHOULD HAVE IDENTIFIED THIS. 
          RIGHT. SO THEN THERE'S THAT. I'M NOT DONE YET. 
          YES, SIR. IS THERE A COST THAT'S GOING TO BE INCURRED OR ANOTHER COST THAT'S GOING TO BE
INCURRED FOR THIS VARIANCE. 
          NO. SHE HAS PAID THE APPLICATION FEE. HER ONLY COST MOVING FORWARD WOULD BE TO PAY HER
CONTRACTOR AND TO GET THE THE PERMIT FROM THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. 
          OKAY. DO I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION CORRECTLY,
THOUGH? HOW MUCH DOES SHE PAY? THE INITIAL COST WAS BACK IN SEPTEMBER OR DECEMBER. 
          YOU SAID, HOW MUCH WAS THAT COST? WHEN SOMEONE APPLIES FOR OH,
THE VACATION OF EASEMENT. 
          I DO NOT KNOW PUBLIC WORKS FEES, BUT THE VARIANCE REQUEST IS $500. 
          I WAS GOING TO ASK STAFF SINCE IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS GOING BETWEEN US AND NOT THE
RESIDENTS FAULT, ANY COSTS FORWARD NEED TO COME FROM WHAT SHE'S PAID ALREADY. 
          YEAH. SO WE'LL GET A DETAIL FOR THAT. BUT WE,
I DON'T KNOW, JUST THAT FAST. 
          I'M GOING TO HAVE MISS MCFARLAND COME BACK UP. 
          OKAY. MISS MCFARLAND, COME, NOW IS YOUR TIME TO TO SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS,
MA'AM, I THINK THE THE QUESTION THE LATEST COST IS THE LATEST QUESTION IS THE COST THAT YOU. AND SPEAK IN THE MIC PLEASE. 
          I PAID WHEN I WENT TO THE ZONING PLACE BY WINN-DIXIE TO ASK WHAT I NEEDED TO DO. 
          I WAS TOLD THE FEE WAS 180 SOMETHING DOLLARS,
WITH A LITTLE BIT UNDER $190 AND NEEDED FOR UTILITY LETTERS, WHICH I TYPED AND SENT OUT AND EXPLAIN WHAT WAS GOING ON. 
          AND THEY REPLIED TO ME AND I BROUGHT THE THINGS IN AND I WENT TO THE LIBRARY. 
          MY COMPUTER WASN'T WORKING. UPLOADED IT AND SENT IT IN TO THE CITY. 
          SO YOU PAID THE $180 THEN? YES. OKAY. FIRST A PERMIT VARIANCE. 
          OKAY. YES. AND THEN WHAT OTHER COSTS DID YOU PAY? PLEASE. WHAT ADDITIONAL COSTS? OH, $500 FOR THE SECOND PERMIT. 
          OKAY. WAS THAT FOR THE SURVEY OR FOR THE PERMIT? YES, 500 FOR THE SURVEY. FOR THE SECOND VARIANCE. 
          OKAY. $500. THE APPLICATION FOR THE VARIANCE. 
          YES. OKAY. THE FIRST ONE WAS 180 SOMETHING AND NOW $500. 
          OKAY. AND I HAD TO PAY THE THE SURVEY PEOPLE,
IN ADDITION TO THE SURVEY THAT THAT WAS JUST DONE THE MONTH BEFORE, I HAD TO PAY 300 AND SOMETHING DOLLARS, 370 SOMETHING DOLLARS,
I THINK FOR SPECIFIC AS, AS THE COUNTY PEOPLE SAID. TO DO WITH THE SIDES THAT WERE FOR THE. 
          YES. THEY DIDN'T WANT THE GENERAL PERMIT. THEY WANT SPECIFIC TO THOSE SIDES. 
          AND THAT WAS THE EXTRA MONEY THAT HAD TO PAY THEM TO DO IT. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU MA'AM. SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION,
SHE PAID $180 INITIALLY, AND THEN AN ADDITIONAL $500 FOR THE VARIANCE APPLICATION, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY. 
          YOU HAD. DEPUTY MAYOR. YEAH. DEPENDING ON HOW THIS MOTION GOES FORWARD,
I'D LIKE TO INCLUDE THAT WE REFUND AT LEAST ONE OF THOSE VARIANCE FEES THAT COUNCILMAN HAMMER BROUGHT
UP. 
          STAFF INDICATED THAT THE PROCESS WAS BROKEN,
AND. 
          AND I THINK IT'S ONLY FAIR FOR HER TO RECAPTURE THAT. 
          AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE FEES, THE $500, $500. 
          OKAY. SO WE'LL JUST MAKE THAT PART OF THE MOTION. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? NO, MA'AM. OKAY. 
          SO. MA'AM, DID YOU WANT TO CONCLUDE WITH ANY COMMENTS? YOU HAVE AN OPTION TO COME BACK UP AND CONCLUDE WITH ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS THAT YOU,
IF YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE RIGHT NOW WE'RE ALREADY LOOKING AT REFUNDING YOU $500. OKAY. THANK YOU. 
          MY CONCERN IS WHEN I WENT TO THAT. THE CITY OVER BY WINN-DIXIE. 
          I EXPECTED THE PEOPLE WHO WERE GIVING, ADVISING ME TO TELL ME ALL THAT WAS NEEDED. 
          I WAS PREPARED TO DO WHATEVER I NEEDED TO DO. 
          THE PROBLEM WAS ALREADY DONE. I NEEDED TO FIX IT. 
          MR. MCFARLAND, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. I WASN'T EXPECTING TO GO THROUGH THAT WHOLE
PERMITTING PROCESS. 
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COME TO THE COUNCIL MEETING, GET A LETTER THAT SAYS EVERYTHING IS FINE,
SENT IT TO THE SCREEN PEOPLE, ONLY TO BE TOLD NO, YOU HAVE TO DO ANOTHER VACATE EASEMENT. 
          SOMEBODY SHOULD HAVE TOLD ME ALL THAT WAS NEEDED THE FIRST TIME. 
          YES, MA'AM. YES, MA'AM. AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THIS YOUNG LADY SAID. 
          IT APPEARS THAT WE HAD A BROKEN SYSTEM, AND UNFORTUNATELY,
IT YOU HAD TO GO THROUGH THAT EXPERIENCE. 
          BUT AS THE REST OF COUNCIL HAS ALREADY SAID,
THAT'S WHY WE'RE LOOKING AT TO INCLUDE IN THE MOTION TO REFUND THE $500 THAT YOU PAID FOR THIS PROCESS. AND THAT MAY NOT BE SUFFICIENT. 
          HOWEVER IT'S SOMEHOW SOME TYPE OF RESTITUTION TO VALUE YOUR TIME AND REALLY SHOW A BROKEN
SYSTEM THAT WE'RE WORKING HARD TO FIX NOW. THANK YOU KINDLY. THANK YOU,
MR. MCFARLAND. THANK YOU. OKAY, GENTLEMEN, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING,
AND I NEED A MOTION. 
          MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE VARIANCE FOR MISS MCFARLAND. 
          WAIVING THE BUILDING PERMIT FEE AND REFUNDING THE SECOND PAYMENT FOR THE VARIANCE OF $500. 
          SECOND. SECOND. OKAY, I GOT I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE,
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN HAMER. 
          I DON'T THINK WE CAN REFUND. THE CITY MANAGER'S WEIGHING IN ON THAT MOTION. 
          STAND FAST. JUST FOR CLARITY, I HEARD IN THE MOTION THE BUILDING PERMIT FROM WHICH HASN'T
BEEN PAID. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING SEPARATE. BUT THE VARIANCE FEE OF $500 IS WHAT I UNDERSTAND. WE'RE
WAIVING. I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR. WE'RE REFUNDING THE 500. MY MOTION WAS TO REFUND THE 500, WAIVE THE PERMIT FEE AND WAIVE THE. SO SHE'LL GET THAT BACK THE PERMIT FEE SHE HASN'T
PAID YET. 
          OH, SHE HAS NOT PAID. OKAY. OKAY. THE MOTION IS WAIVING THE FEE AND REFUNDING THE
VARIANCE. 
          SECOND. WE'RE GOOD. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. 
          AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES FIVE ZERO. AND, MISS MCFARLAND,
CONGRATULATIONS. 
          MY APOLOGIES. COUNCIL'S APOLOGIES. AND THANK YOU FOR HIGHLIGHTING SOMETHING THAT WAS
BROKEN. 
          AND I REALLY APPRECIATE, UNFORTUNATELY, YOU WERE THE ONE BUT YOU FIXED IT FOR SO MANY
OTHERS TODAY. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER TWO. 
          WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER TWO, MADAM SMITH. OH,
I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          MR. MORTON. THANK YOU, HONORABLE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL,
ONCE AGAIN, I'M GOING TO ASK STAFF TO COME UP TO PRESENT THIS SECOND REQUEST FOR A VARIANCE. GOOD EVENING. THE NEXT CASE IS REGARDING A VARIANCE REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY. 
          PROPERTY OWNER AT 1521 TOY STREET. THE OWNER IS ASKING FOR RELIEF TO BUILD. 
          WELL, HE'S ALREADY BUILT THE THE POLE BARN. SO THAT BEING HE WAS FINED BY CODE COMPLIANCE
BUILDING PERMIT CAME IN AND STAFF DISCOVERED THAT THE EXISTING SHED ON THE PROPERTY AND THE POLE
BARN THAT'S ALREADY BEEN CONSTRUCTED ARE LARGER THAN THE EXISTING HOME ON THE LOT,
WHICH ISN'T PERMITTED. 
          IN ADDITION, THE POLE BARN HAS BEEN BUILT AT A HEIGHT TALLER THAN THE PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE. 
          WE HAVE PICTURES ON FILE THAT SHOW THE ACTUAL POLE BARN NEXT TO THE SHED ITSELF. 
          TO GIVE YOU SOME IDEA OF ITS SCALE COMPARED TO THE PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE. 
          OH. WOULD YOU KNOW IF THAT'S ANCHORED IN. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THAT? THAT PICTURE? WHICH ONE IS THAT? SOME. YEAH. IS THAT SOMEHOW ANCHORED? ON THE DECK OR. WELL, IT'S. YEAH, THE APPLICANT'S INFORMATION STATED THAT THEY HAD
FOOTERS, BUT AGAIN, THIS HASN'T BEEN PERMITTED BY THE CITY. 
          SO NO ONE HAS, YOU KNOW, LOOKED AT IT FOR SAFETY PURPOSES TO SEE IF IT'S ADEQUATELY BUILT
UP OR ANYTHING. 
          COPY. DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION, SIR? YEAH. MY ONLY QUESTION NOT NOT ABOUT SPECIFICALLY THE
PROJECT ITSELF, BUT COULD THIS HAVE BEEN IF THE CODE WAS DIFFERENT,
COULD THIS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED ADMINISTRATIVELY? 
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SO WITH THIS ONE, I JUST KNOW. I BELIEVE THE CITY MANAGER'S WEIGHING IN. 
          FOR CLARITY ON THIS ONE. I WOULDN'T BE HERE AT 22ND. 
          JUST FOR CLARITY. WE WOULDN'T BE HERE IF THEY'D APPLIED FOR A BUILDING PERMIT. WE COULD
HAVE MADE IT FIT INTO PROBABLY THE BUILDING CODE CRITERIA. THIS WAS BUILT WITHOUT ANY WITH ANY PERMIT OR WITHOUT ANY INVESTIGATION TAGGED BY CODE. 
          NOW, RATHER THAN DISMANTLE OR TEAR THE STRUCTURE,
THEY'RE ASKING FOR A VARIANCE TO LEAVE IT. GOT IT. 
          OKAY. IN FACT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. CARRY ON MA'AM. 
          OKAY. I BELIEVE BOTH VARIANCES BEING REQUESTED ARE SLIGHTLY ABOVE THE ADMINISTRATIVE
APPROVAL LEVEL. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU. AT 21 POINT SOMETHING PERCENT AND 20 OVER 20%. 
          OKAY. I'M GOOD. KEEP GOING. OKAY, SO WE'LL GET THIS RIGHT SOON ENOUGH. 
          WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THESE PICTURES. I'M SORRY. ONCE AGAIN STAFF FOUND IN THEIR
ASSESSMENT THAT THERE IS NO PRESENCE OF A HARDSHIP. 
          THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD RECOMMENDED THAT THE CITY COUNCIL DENIED THE APPLICANT'S
REQUEST, AND TONIGHT, STAFF IS SEEKING FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE OR DENY THE REQUEST FOR
BOTH, OR EITHER THE. THERE'S TWO VARIANCES, ONE FOR THE SIZE OF THE POLE BARN AND THE OTHER FOR
THE HEIGHT OF THE POLE BARN. ARE THEY. DID ANY NEIGHBORS COMPLAIN ABOUT THIS? STAFF HAS RECEIVED NO LETTERS FROM THOSE THAT WERE NOTIFIED WITHIN THE 500FT. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR. 
          YES, SIR. THANK YOU. OKAY. DEPUTY MAYOR, ANY SPEAKER CARDS? ONE ONE FROM THE APPLICANT AND ANOTHER TO FOLLOW. 
          OKAY, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL THEM. MISS ALLISON WILLIAMS. APPLICANT. 
          HELLO, MY NAME IS ALLISON WILLIAMS. WE'RE ASKING FOR A VARIANCE SO THAT WE CAN GET A
PERMIT. 
          WE'VE ALREADY SUBMITTED EVERYTHING TO GET THE PERMANENT. 
          I MEAN, SORRY, THE PERMIT. WE DO HAVE ENGINEERING PLANS FOR BOTH OF THEM. 
          THEY WERE BOTH PUT UP PROPERLY. I HAVE SHOWED THE CITY THE DOCUMENTS WHERE EVERYTHING WAS
PUT UP PROPERLY. 
          THE POLE BARN IN QUESTION IS OPEN AIR. IT DOESN'T HAVE A CONCRETE FLOOR. 
          THE SAME WITH THE SHED. THE SHED HAS A WOODEN FLOOR. 
          WE THOUGHT IF IT HAD A WOODEN FLOOR. NO CONCRETE THAT YOU DIDN'T NEED A PERMIT. 
          BUT, I MEAN, WE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WILLING TO DO THE PERMIT. 
          WE'VE ALREADY SUBMITTED ALL THE PAPERWORK. IT'S ALL THERE. 
          THE BLUEPRINTS, LIKE I SAID, EVERYTHING IS THERE. 
          SO IT WAS PUT UP PROPERLY. AND WE HAVE DOCUMENTATION TO SHOW THAT. 
          OKAY. DID YOU HAVE A PROFESSIONAL PUT IT UP? YES WE DID. 
          AND HE. HE CHOSE NOT TO GET A PERMIT. YEAH. WE DID. 
          WE DIDN'T KNOW. OKAY. UNDERSTOOD. THAT'S CRAZY AS THAT SOUNDS. 
          THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS, SIR? WELL, THEY COME FROM ALL OVER. 
          COME ON INTO THE MICROPHONE, SIR. THANK YOU. THE INSTALLED PEOPLE,
THEY COME FROM ALL OVER THE STATE. 
          SO YOU DON'T KNOW WHO YOU'RE GETTING, WHERE YOU'RE GETTING. 
          YOU BOUGHT A POLE BARN KIT AND IT COMES WITH THE PLAN WIN LITIGATIONS. 
          I MEAN, JUST AS YOU WOULD BUILD A HOUSE. AND I'M PRETTY. 
          I THINK THAT WITH THE FIRST LETTER THAT WE GOT. 
          STATED THAT WE NEEDED TO GET THE PROBLEM RESOLVED TO GET A PERMIT FOR IT. 
          SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR OVER A YEAR TRYING TO GET ALL THIS INFORMATION. 
          AND WE FINALLY, TWO WEEKS AGO WAS ABLE TO GET IN TO COME. 
          TWO WEEKS AGO TO TRY TO GET A VARIANCE AND TO GET TO GET THE PERMIT. 
          AND WE GOT THE NOD OVER FOR. I THINK IT'S 411 SQUARE FOOT OVER SIZE AND THREE FOOT SOMETHING INCHES HIGHER THAN THE HOUSE OF FEET HIGHER THAN THE HOUSE. 
          AND THAT'S THE ONLY DIFFERENCE, I GUESS, COMPARED,
LIKE I SAID, I DIDN'T KNOW AT FIRST, BUT I WAS INFORMED IF IT AIN'T GOT A CONCRETE FLOOR WALLS ON IT,
IT WAS CONSIDERED OPEN AIR BACK IN THE DAY. 
          OR AT THAT POINT I THOUGHT I STILL THOUGHT IT. 
          THE POLE BARN IS OVER TWO YEARS OLD. IT'S BEEN THERE FOR THAT LONG. 
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THEY BUILT A NEW HOUSE ACROSS THE STREET, AND THAT'S WHEN THEY REALIZED IT WASN'T A PERMIT
FOR IT. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO NOW, IS GET IT TAKEN CARE OF,
GET PERMIT AND ALL THAT STUFF TO MAKE EVERYTHING LEGAL. 
          WHAT WE NEED. SO I THINK THE ISSUE IS THE HEIGHT AS WELL AS THE STRUCTURE AT THIS POINT. AND PLEASE DON'T GO ANYWHERE,
SIR. 
          I'M TRYING TO GET A RESOLVE HERE. JUST THE SIZE ITSELF. 
          SO THE SIZE OUR REGULATIONS STATE THAT THE THE TOTAL CUMULATIVE TOTAL OF THE SQUARE
FOOTAGE OF ACCESSORY USES ON THE SITE CANNOT BE LARGER THAN THE PRINCIPAL USE. 
          SO WE HAVE TO ADD UP THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF ALL ACCESSORY USES. 
          IN THIS CASE, IT WOULD BE THE SHED THAT IS THERE AS WELL AS THE POLE BARN. 
          SO IT'S JUST NOT THE POLE BARN. NOW WE HAVE TO. 
          THE SQUARE FOOTAGE INCLUDES THE SHED AT THIS POINT AS WELL. 
          OKAY. OKAY. I BELIEVE COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN HAS A QUESTION. 
          YES. WHY? IN MOST JURISDICTIONS, ZONING REGULATIONS, PARTICULARLY IN A NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE THIS, YOU DO NOT WANT TO SEE ACCESSORY USES THAT ARE
LARGER THAN THE ACTUAL HOME. BECAUSE THE PURPOSE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS FOR RESIDENTIAL LIVING. 
          RIGHT? SO IT'S JUST A MECHANISM, HONESTLY, TO KEEP THE CITY LOOKING A CERTAIN WAY. 
          OKAY. AND SO, SO THE WAY YOU WERE EXPLAINING IT IS THAT EITHER OF THE,
YOU KNOW, AUXILIARY STRUCTURES BY THEMSELVES ARE NOT MORE THAN THE, THAN THE HOUSE RIGHT NOW. 
          BUT COMBINED THEY ARE. YES. OKAY. YOU KNOW, OKAY,
THAT THAT CONCLUDES MY QUESTIONS. 
          I'M GOING TO JUST LEAVE IT AT QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. COUNCIL DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE,
HOW MANY SQUARE FEET IS THE SHED? SHED IS 14 BY 20 ON THE MICROPHONE, SIR. THANK YOU. 
          I THINK I THINK IT'S 14 BY 24. OKAY. HAVE YOU HAVE YOU CONSIDERED DEMOLISHING THE SHED TO
CAPTURE SOME OF THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE BACK THAT COULD BE UTILIZED TOWARDS WHAT YOU'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE FOR THE POLE BARN? WELL,
THE POLE BARNS OPEN. 
          THE SHED IS FULL OF EQUIPMENT THAT I USED TO WORK WITH. 
          I DO CONSTRUCTION WORK, CONCRETE WORK AND STUFF LIKE THAT. 
          SO I GOT MACHINES IN THERE, TRIAL MACHINES, STUFF THAT NEEDS TO BE KEPT OUT OF THE
WEATHER. 
          OR COULD THE SHED BE RELOCATED TO UNDERNEATH THE POLE BARN? I THINK HE'S GOT HIS DOG AND STUFF. IT'S PRETTY LARGE. 
          IT'S PRETTY. I HAVE. OTHER THINGS. A LOT OF THINGS THAT. 
          I GOT EXPENSIVE THINGS IN THERE UNDER THAT POLE BARN. 
          AIRBOATS. YEAH. SO SIDE BY SIDES JUST JUST GIVING YOU,
I THINK THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU'RE HEARING FROM COUNCIL. 
          THEY'RE TRYING TO GET A RESOLVE WITHOUT WITH. 
          AND SO THAT THAT'S WHY THE QUESTIONS. WELL, TO PUT THE SHED UNDER THE POLE BARN. 
          I MEAN THIS IS A PRETTY BIG VARIANCE YOU'RE ASKING FOR TWO CREATIVE SOLUTIONS IS BRING IN
THREE FEET OF FILL AND GET A DRAINAGE PLAN. 
          IT WOULD CHANGE WHAT YOUR FINISHED FLOOR HEIGHT IS ON YOUR UNDER YOUR POLE BARN,
AND GIVE YOU A NEW HEIGHT FOR YOUR BUILDING, IN MY OPINION. AND THEN RELOCATE THE SHED UNDERNEATH THE POLE BARN THAT I DON'T THINK THAT
MATH WOULD BE CALCULATED INTO THE OVERALL CALCULATION. 
          SO TO BRING DIRT IN AND TO PUT THE SHED UNDER THE POLE BARN,
OR I HAVE TO DO BOTH OF THOSE, OR I'M JUST OR JUST I'M JUST THINKING OUT LOUD HERE. 
          IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A BIG ASK. I KNOW YOU FAILED IN PNC STAFF RECOMMENDED DENIAL. 
          SO JUST LOOKING AT THINGS FROM YOUR POSITION,
IT'S NOT LOOKING GOOD. 
          RIGHT. SO BUT REALLY THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS,
THE STATEMENTS I HAD MAYOR. 
          ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I HAVE I'VE GOT I HAVE MIKE COUNCILMAN HAMMER. 
          OKAY. SO COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON. I'M THANK YOU. I'M ACTUALLY PERFECTLY FINE WITH MOVING
FORWARD. 
          THEY. HOW BIG OF A LOT IS IT? THE LOT IS WHAT IS IT,
80 SOMETHING BY 100? YEAH. IT'S A IT'S A QUARTER OF AN ACRE. IT'S A STANDARD PALM BAY LOT. 
          YEAH. AND NO COMPLAINTS BY RESIDENTS. I JUST I,
I UNDERSTAND YOU GOT REPORTED HERE. 
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YOU ARE TRYING TO GO ABOUT IT THE RIGHT WAY. I,
I REALLY DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE PROPERTY OR WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO. THAT'S JUST MY TAKE. I HEAR DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE TRYING TO FIND A RESOLVE,
BUT IF EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME PAGE OF, HEY, YOU'RE GOOD, YOU'RE NOT HARASSING ANYBODY WITH THIS. 
          NOBODY'S COMPLAINING. THIS ISN'T AN HOA. LET'S MOVE FORWARD. 
          AND, AND SO MY. SO MY CONCERN IS THAT YOU DON'T GET THE VARIANCE. AND THEN WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE YOU? SO LET ME ASK STAFF. ALL RIGHT, SIR, JUST STAND FAST,
MA'AM. 
          YES. IF. IF COUNCIL DENIES THIS, IT'S NOT P AND Z. 
          THIS IS DIFFERENT. IF COUNCIL DENIES THIS. WHAT ALTERNATIVE DOES THIS FAMILY HAVE? I BELIEVE THE BUILDING OFFICIAL WOULD REQUIRE HIM TO TAKE IT DOWN AND SUBMIT SOMETHING FOR
APPROVAL THAT FITS THE. 
          SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO TEAR IT DOWN. THEY MAY HAVE TO TEAR IT DOWN ANYWAY IF IT'S NOT BUILT
RIGHT. 
          IT HASN'T BEEN PERMITTED. AND SO. BUILDING A POLE. 
          WHAT THEY JUST DID. WOULD IT HAVE TO BE LOWER IN HEIGHT AND LESS SQUARE FOOTAGE? IF YOU DIDN'T APPROVE IT OR IF YOU DID, IF WE DIDN'T APPROVE,
IF YOU DID NOT APPROVE IT, YES. 
          HE WOULD HAVE TO BRING IT TO REGULATIONS, AND I APOLOGIZE. 
          I DID ANSWER YOUR QUESTION WRONG. I THOUGHT YOUR QUESTION WAS ABOUT THE SHED. 
          THE POLE BARN ITSELF IS LARGER THAN THE HOME. 
          THE NUMBERS ON THE SCREEN. UNDERSTOOD. OKAY. WELL,
YEAH, MA'AM, YOU COULD. 
          YOU COULD GET ON THE MIC. YOU CAN GET ON THE MIC. 
          I THOUGHT THAT WAS INCORRECT BECAUSE WHEN I TALKED TO SOMEBODY IN LAND AND DEVELOPMENT,
THEY TOLD ME THAT THE SHED PUT US OVER, AND THEN THEY SAID WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO FILE FOR ADMINISTRATIVE VARIANCE,
BUT WE COULDN'T FILE FOR ADMINISTRATIVE VARIANCE BECAUSE WE'RE THREE FEET HIGHER THAN THE HOUSE. SO WHAT THEY WHAT THEY WERE SAYING IS THAT IF YOU MOVE THE SHED UNDER THE POLE BARN
OR YOU GOT RID OF THE SHED, YOU WOULD BE WITHIN AN ADMINISTRATIVE VARIANCE APPROVAL. 
          I SEE. I SEE. YOU STILL WOULD NEED A VARIANCE. 
          SO MOVING THE SHED WOULD WOULD SOLVE THE ISSUE I GUESS. 
          COUNCILMAN COUNCILMAN COUNCILMAN LANAKILA. YEAH. 
          I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. SO. LET'S SAY WE WENT AHEAD AND GRANTED THEM THE VARIANCE
TONIGHT, AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO PULL A PERMIT FROM YOU. 
          RIGHT. OR FROM FROM OUR CITY. RIGHT. SO THEN AT THAT POINT IF THEY DETERMINED THAT IT
WASN'T THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS, THEY DETERMINED IT WASN'T BUILT PROPERLY, THEN IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE TORN DOWN ANYWAYS.
IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE SAYING? AND THEN BUT IF THEY DETERMINE THAT WITH THE VARIANCE IT'S BUILT TO TO A PROPER CODE, THEN THEY ESSENTIALLY CAN KEEP IT AT THAT POINT. 
          BUT NOW THEY'VE GONE THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS AND HAVE THE VARIANCE. THAT'S THAT'S
THE NEXT STEP. 
          SO IF I KNEW THE ANSWER TO HOW SOMETHING IS INSPECTED,
THERE'S DIFFERENT STAGES OF INSPECTION WHEN YOU'RE BUILDING SOMETHING. AND I DO NOT KNOW MR. BUILDING OFFICIAL WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD HAVE TO TEAR
IT DOWN ANYWAY. 
          I JUST DON'T KNOW. SOMETIMES INSPECTIONS ARE DONE AT FOUNDATION LEVEL. 
          THE FOOTERS I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE. 
          SO THEN IF WE IF WE WENT AHEAD AND GRANTED THEM THE VARIANCE AS A COUNCIL TONIGHT AND THE
BUILDING PERMIT DECIDES THAT THEY STILL HAVE TO TEAR IT DOWN BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MEET THE BUILDING CODE. WHAT HAPPENS TO THE VARIANCE IN THE FUTURE? DOES THAT THEN SAY THEY CAN BUILD SOMETHING ELSE TO MEET OUR VARIANCE,
OR DOES OUR VARIANCE BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, GET TAKEN AWAY BECAUSE THEY HAD TO TEAR THAT STRUCTURE DOWN? DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? I THINK I WHAT I'M HEARING IS YOU'RE ASKING IF THEY HAVE TO TEAR IT
DOWN. 
          YOU DENY THEY WOULD NEED TO STILL COME BACK FOR VARIANCE IF THEY INTEND. 
          NO. IF IF WE APPROVE THE VARIANCE TONIGHT. RIGHT. 
          BUT THEN THEY GO GET A PERMIT AND IT'S WE COME TO THE CONCLUSION AS A CITY,
AS A BUILDING DEPARTMENT THAT IT'S STILL NOT BUILT PROPERLY AND THEY NEED TO TEAR IT DOWN. 
          THE VARIANCE THAT WE APPROVED TONIGHT DOES IT THEN BASICALLY GIVE THEM A VARIANCE ON A
FUTURE BUILD, OR DOES THE VARIANCE GET NEGATED BECAUSE THEY HAD TO TEAR THE STRUCTURE DOWN? THAT WOULD BE A LEGAL QUESTION FOR ME BECAUSE IT'S SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS STRUCTURE,
HEIGHT AND 
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SIZE, WHICH WOULD MAKE IT. OUT OF COMPLIANCE. 
          SO I MEAN, WE COULD JUST MAKE THE MOTION OURSELVES AND SAY,
IF WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND GRANT THEM A VARIANCE SUBJECT TO BUILDING, GIVING THEM THE CODE THAT IF IT DOES STILL HAVE TO GET TAKEN DOWN DUE TO THE PERMIT,
THAT THE VARIANCE IS NOW WIPED. 
          AND IF THEY BUILD SOMETHING ELSE AND IT'S OUT OF CODE,
THEY NEED TO ASK FOR ANOTHER VARIANCE. 
          SO LET'S LET'S GET OUR CITY ATTORNEY TO ENGAGE. 
          IF YOU WERE GOING TO TRY TO LIMIT IT, YOU WOULD HAVE TO PUT THAT LANGUAGE IN,
I THINK, BEFORE YOU ALL GO TOO FAR SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO THAT WAY, YOU'RE PROVIDING PUTTING THE APPROPRIATE LIMITATION IN. 
          MAYBE WE SHOULD HEAR FROM THE ACTING BUILDING OFFICIAL SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT IT IS THAT
THEY'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR. 
          WHAT'S GOING TO BE TRIGGERING THIS POTENTIAL ENDING OF THE ACTUAL VARIATION,
WHAT'S GOING TO TERMINATE IT? BECAUSE OTHERWISE, IF WE ARE ALL GUESSING AT IT AND WE'RE PUTTING CONDITIONS IN IT,
THE CONDITIONS MAY NOT ACTUALLY MATCH UP WITH WHAT OCCURS, WHICH WILL ALSO BE PROBLEMATIC. THANK YOU. SO CAN THE BUILDING OFFICIAL PLEASE STEP
FORWARD, MR. MORTON? GOOD EVENING. SO I WAS JUST RECENTLY LOOKING AT THE PERMIT APPLICATION THAT HAS BEEN
SUBMITTED TO US. 
          THESE HAVE NOT ACTUALLY BEEN PAID FOR US TO DO A REVIEW,
BUT IT IS AN ENGINEERED PLAN. 
          SO IF IT WERE TO HAVE ANY ISSUES, SAY WITH LIKE THE WIND SPEEDS. 
          IT COULD PROBABLY HAVE SOME ENGINEERING THAT COULD BEEF IT UP TO ALLOW IT TO MEET CODE. 
          BUT WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY INSPECTIONS, SO WE WOULD PROBABLY DEFER AT THIS POINT TO AN
ENGINEER TO GIVE US THAT. 
          IT IS BUILT TO HIS PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS TO MEET WIND CODE DESIGN. 
          AND HE HAS AN ENGINEER? YES. AN ENGINEER PLAN HAS BEEN SUBMITTED TO US BUT HAS NOT BEEN
REVIEWED AS OF YET. 
          ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION,
COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN? I THINK SO, BUT SO IS THERE IS THERE A SCENARIO WHERE,
YOU KNOW, IT FAILS AND YOU WOULD STILL HAVE TO HAVE HIM TAKE IT DOWN, EVEN IF WE GRANT HIM THE VARIANCE RIGHT NOW,
IT COULD BE ENGINEERED. 
          OKAY. SO WE WE WOULDN'T SAY, HEY, IT DOESN'T MEET YOU KNOW,
UNLESS IT DIDN'T HAVE ANY KIND OF WIND SPEED REQUIREMENTS THAT WERE BEING MET. 
          BUT SINCE IT IS AN ENGINEER THAT HAS PROVIDED THE DESIGN,
HE COULD ALWAYS STRENGTHEN IT UP, SO TO SPEAK, IF NEED TO BE AND PROVIDE A REVISION ON HOW TO DO SO. 
          GOTCHA. AND TO THE APPLICANT THAT'S THAT'S YOU GUYS ARE WORKING WITH THEM AND THAT'S
ACCEPTABLE TO YOU. 
          YES. YEAH YEAH YEAH. ONE AT A TIME PLEASE. WELL IN THE MICROPHONE,
PLEASE. 
          YEAH. THE WHEN WE IT WAS IT'S AN ENGINEERED PLAN. 
          AND ACTUALLY MYSELF, I DIDN'T LIKE THE WAY THE ROOF WAS SCREWED DOWN. 
          SO I ACTUALLY HIRED ANOTHER ROOFER TO COME IN AND ADD MORE SCREWS TO THE ROOF THE WAY I WANTED IT DONE, THE WAY I WOULD WANT IT DONE. 
          SO IT WOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM TO ENGINEER THE STRUCTURE A LITTLE BIT MORE. 
          BUT I DO KNOW OF ANOTHER POLE BARN EXACTLY CAME FROM THE SAME PLACE,
THE SAME PLACE HERE IN PALM BAY THAT JUST GOT APPROVED AND PASSED INSPECTION FROM THE CITY OF PALM BAY. 
          THE EXACT SAME SUPPLIER. EVERYTHING. SO, I MEAN,
I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW ONE COULD GET PASSED AND THEY WENT THROUGH THE SAME THING. I DON'T KNOW EITHER, SIR. I WOULDN'T KNOW EITHER. 
          IT COULD BE A SQUARE FOOTAGE THING, BUT IT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS RESOLVE THIS HERE, RIGHT NOW. EXACTLY. YES. AND SO. SO I YIELD MY QUESTIONS,
MAYOR. 
          I'M GOOD. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR COMMENTS RIGHT NOW? YES. OKAY. ANY SPEAKER CARDS? DEPUTY MAYOR, YOU WERE YOU WERE PHILIP. 
          IS THAT OKAY? YEAH. NO OTHER CARDS, MAYOR. OR IS THIS VOTE OKAY? ALL RIGHT. SO I LIVE RIGHT BEHIND MR. WILLIAMS. SEEN IT FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS. IT'S THERE TO PROTECT THIS STUFF,
YOU KNOW? NO ISSUES. FAMILY, FRIENDS, WORKERS AT MY HOUSE HAVE COME BY. 
          COMMENTED ON IT. YOU KNOW HOW GOOD IT LOOKS. I'LL TRY NOT TO TAKE UP TOO MUCH TIME. 
          EVERYBODY DRIVES AROUND PALM BAY. THERE'S A LOT OF HOUSES BEEN SITTING HALF BUILT,
SO IN MY OPINION, IT SOUNDS LIKE MOST OF THE RULES ARE BASED ON APPEARANCE HEIGHT AS I APOLOGIZE. 
          I DON'T REMEMBER HER NAME SAID AS FAR AS THAT WAS ASKED,
SO I HAVE NO PROBLEM. 
          I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM ANY NEIGHBORS COMPLAIN AND AGAIN,
I'VE ONLY HAD COMPLIMENTS TO PASS ON TO MR. 
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WILLIAMS FROM PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, VISITING MY HOME. 
          SO I HAVE NO ISSUES WITH IT. AND IT SOUNDS LIKE SOME OF THE RULES ARE JUST THERE TO BE
RULES. 
          IF A TWO STOREY HOUSE WAS BUILT RIGHT NEXT TO HIS HOME,
IT'D BE TALLER. 
          SO AS LONG AS IT MEETS SAFETY CODE, IT'S NOT GOING TO BLOW OVER AND HIT MY HOUSE. 
          YOU KNOW, I HAVE NO PROBLEM. THANK YOU. AND THAT'LL BE RESOLVED WITH THE PERMITTING. 
          RIGHT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. THAT WAS THE LAST SPEAKER CARD. OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT, SO I'M A COUNCIL. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? SEEING NONE, I'M. I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE
THE REQUEST BY MR. AND MRS. WILLIAMS SECOND. I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON,
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN. 
          ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? GENTLEMAN? YES, SIR. YEAH. 
          SO ON THE POINT, YOU KNOW, AND THE REASON I ASKED WHY IS BECAUSE AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT
THIS WITH OTHER DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'VE HAD WITH KIND OF WITH BUREAUCRACY AND THINGS LIKE THAT, OUR STAFF'S DOING THEIR JOB AND THAT'S WHAT THEY SHOULD DO. AND THERE'S A REASON
THAT ALL OF OUR CODES ARE WHERE THEY ARE AND WHY WE HAVE PROCESSES, BUT WE'RE ALSO A MASSIVE CITY, AND WE RECOGNIZE THAT THERE'S NOT ALWAYS A ONE SIZE FITS
ALL POLICY. 
          AND THAT'S WHY WE ALSO HAVE THIS VARIANCE PROCESS. 
          SO FROM WHAT I HEARD TONIGHT, AND THEN BASED OFF OF,
YOU KNOW, HAVING THE NEIGHBOR COME IN AND ALSO SAY THEY'RE GOOD WITH IT, I'M GOING TO BE IN FAVOR OF GRANTING THE VARIANCE. 
          COPY THAT. SO I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON,
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN. 
          ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED SIGNIFY BY SAYING NAY. 
          PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER THREE PUBLIC HEARING,
MISS SMITH, ORDINANCE 2026-09, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY,
FLORIDA, AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2026 BUDGET BY APPROPRIATING ALLOCATING FUNDS AS IDENTIFIED IN EXHIBIT A, CONSISTING OF FOUR PAGES AND INCORPORATED IN ITS ENTIRETY HEREIN. 
          RECOGNIZING THAT SUCH APPROPRIATIONS MUST BE MADE PURSUANT TO THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF
THE CITY OF PALM BAY. 
          CHAPTER 35 FINANCE. ADOPTING, RATIFYING, CONFIRMING AND VALIDATING THE ALLOCATIONS
PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. 
          THANK YOU MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND,
MR. MORTON, THANK YOU, HONORABLE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL,
ONCE AGAIN, I'M GOING TO ASK STAFF TO COME UP TO PRESENT THIS REQUEST. 
          GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. COUNCIL. THIS IS THE SECOND READING OF THE SECOND BUDGET AMENDMENT
FOR THE FISCAL YEAR. 
          BRING IT UP. LET'S SEE. SORRY. BETTER. THIS IS THE SECOND READING OF THE SECOND AMENDMENT OF THE FISCAL YEAR 26 BUDGET YEAR. 
          THESE ARE ADJUSTMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN THAT HAVE COME TO COUNCIL BEFORE OR THESE ARE
AMENDMENT CHANGES TO THE BUDGET THAT WE FIND WHERE PROJECTS HAVE CLOSED. 
          AND WE'RE JUST MOVING THE MONEY BACK INTO THE RESERVE,
OR WE'RE TRANSFERRING MONEY TO DIFFERENT PROJECTS WITH APPROVAL BY, OF COURSE, COUNCIL. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS,
I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANYTHING FOR YOU. 
          COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE. STAND FAST. 
          I'M GOING TO OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC. ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? WE'RE ON ITEM THREE. PUBLIC HEARINGS. ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION. 
          SO MOVED. SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON,
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN HAMER. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES FIVE ZERO. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR,
MADAM SMITH, ORDINANCE 2025-44, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BY CHANGING
THE ZONING OF PROPERTY FROM RR RURAL RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO RS. 
          ONE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE VICINITY NORTH OF
EMERALD ROAD, SOUTH OF VALOR DRIVE AND WEST OF CAVEN AVENUE AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN,
PROVIDING FOR A CHANGE OF THE ZONING MAP, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU MA'AM. 
          I'M OPENING UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MR. MORTON. 
          SO THANK YOU, MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL, AGAIN, I NEED YOU TO THANK YOU AND ASK ALTHEA JEFFERSON
TO COME UP AND GIVE A PRESENTATION ON THIS PROPOSAL TONIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. THIS CASE I HAVE I HAVE NO SLIDES. 
          THANK YOU. YOU MIGHT RECALL THIS CASE. THIS IS A CENTER POINT CHURCH,
AND THEY ARE REQUESTING 
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TO CHANGE THEIR ZONING FOR THEIR PROPERTY OF TEN ACRES FROM RURAL RESIDENTIAL TO RS1. 
          YOU MAY KNOW THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED NORTH OF EMERALD ROAD,
SOUTHEAST AND SOUTH OF VALOR DRIVE SOUTHEAST. 
          THE RS ONE ZONING DISTRICT IS DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE LOW DENSITY,
SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT. 
          THIS PARTICULAR REQUEST TO RS1 IS CONSISTENT WITH LOW DENSITY. 
          FUTURE LAND USE, AS IS THEIR CURRENT ZONING. IF THEIR REQUEST IS APPROVED,
THEY WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE ABLE TO BUILD UP TO 54 HOMES. 
          YOU MAY RECALL FROM THEIR PREVIOUS REQUEST THAT THEY WERE LOOKING TO BUILD 41,
SO IT WOULD BE BELOW WHAT THEY WOULD ACTUALLY BE PERMITTED FOR DENSITY. ALSO, I WANT TO NOTE THAT THE RS1 DISTRICT HAS LARGER LOTS THAN
RS. 
          RS TWO, WHICH WAS THEIR LAST REQUEST, MAKING THESE BIGGER SIZED HOME LOTS. 
          YEAH. WHAT .23. .23 THE. THE DENSITY 0.23 LOTS. WHAT. THEY HAVE. THEY HAVE TWO LOTS. YES. 
          ARE YOU ASKING FOR EACH LOT? EACH LOT IS WHAT. 
          EACH LOT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO BE A 1400 SQUARE FEET. 
          NO, THAT CAN'T BE RIGHT. OH. I'M SORRY, I'M SORRY. 
          I'M SO SORRY. IT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO HAVE AN 80 BY 100. 
          SO 8000? WHAT IS THAT? 4.2, 3.2, 4.2. RS2 HAS A 75 FOOT WIDE 75 AND RS ONE IS 80 FOOT WIDE. 85. OKAY, 80. OKAY. CARRY ON. OKAY. 
          REALLY, I DON'T HAVE MUCH MORE. THIS PARTICULAR CASE YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH. 
          I DON'T WANT TO OVERSTATE ANYTHING, BUT THE REVISED REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RURAL
RESIDENTIAL TO RS ONE. BOTH ARE LOW DENSITY ZONING DISTRICTS. OKAY. 
          DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR. YES, SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU. 
          ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? GENTLEMAN. OKAY. OH. COUNCILMAN. 
          HAMMER. YES, MA'AM. I BELIEVE COUNCILMAN HAMMER. 
          I THOUGHT THIS WAS FOR 41 AND NOT 54. WHEN DID IT GO TO 54? IT DID NOT GO TO 54. I WAS SAYING, GIVEN THE DENSITY ALLOWED THAT THAT'S THE THE MAXIMUM
THAT THEY COULD PROBABLY FIT WITH THE 8000. 
          BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING. THEY'RE REQUESTING 41. 
          41 IS WHAT THE PROPOSAL HAD SHOWN. GOOD. YES,
MA'AM. 
          I I'M SORRY, I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. FOR ONE THING,
I, I WAS LOOKING FOR THE EVACUATION ROUTE IMPACTS. I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING IN HERE TO DICTATE THOSE. 
          TO MY RECOLLECTION, THE EVACUATION ZONES ARE CLOSER TO US ONE OUT THAT WAY FOR DESIGNATED AREAS. I DON'T BELIEVE THIS HAS AN IMPACT ON THAT AREA. 
          YEAH, IT SAYS ON POLICY FLU 1.3 F. NEW DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS MUST MITIGATE HURRICANE
SHELTERING AND EVACUATION IMPACTS. 
          AND ACCORDING WITH THE CME AND THE LDC. YES. AND WE HAVE MAPS THAT SHOW THE EVACUATION
ROUTES. 
          AND THIS AREA WOULDN'T BE PART. IT WOULDN'T HAVE ANY IMPACT ON THE AREAS WHERE WE SHOW THE
EVACUATION ROUTES GOING. SO THIS HAS NO IMPACT ON EVACUATING OUR CITY? NO. OKAY. THAT CONCLUDES YOUR QUESTIONS. OKAY. 
          THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR. DO WE HAVE SPEAKER CARDS? WE HAVE THE APPLICANT. OKAY. KIM. ROSENKER. OKAY. 
          GOOD EVENING. MAYOR. MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS KIM ROSENKER WITH LISA ROSENKER
IN MELBOURNE, FLORIDA. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF CENTER CHURCH, INC.. MR. PRICE IS NO LONGER INVOLVED WITH THIS PROJECT AND I HAVE BECOME THE APPLICANT
REPRESENTATIVE. 
          THIS IS A REZONING OF TEN ACRES OF RURAL RESIDENTIAL TO RS1. 
          THIS IS THE SAME PROPERTY THAT CAME BEFORE YOU IN SEPTEMBER 18TH OF 2025. 
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AS YOU KNOW, THE STAFF REPORT IS STILL THE SAME. 
          THERE'S A NEW AGENDA MEMO, BUT OTHER THAN THAT,
EVERYTHING IS THE SAME BEFORE YOU, EXCEPT WE'RE NOW LOOKING AT RS1 INSTEAD OF RS2. 
          WE'RE HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE OF THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT THAT WAS REACHED BASED UPON THE
BERT HARRIS MEDIATION. AND THIS IS A MODIFIED REQUEST BASED ON A CHANGE OF THE SIZE OF THE LOTS AND A CHANGE THAT WE WOULD NOT BE SEEKING A VARIANCE TO THE TWO ACCESS INGRESS EGRESS
POINTS. 
          AS MENTIONED, THE FUTURE LAND USE IS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL,
WHICH IS UP TO FIVE UNITS TO THE ACRE. 
          WITH ME TONIGHT IS TOM WALKER, THE PASTOR OF CENTERPOINT CHURCH,
AND I'D LIKE HIM TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHY THEY WANT TO REZONE THIS AND WHAT THE PURPOSE IS FOR THAT. MR. MAYOR COUNCIL, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR HEARING US. AND MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THIS ROOM WERE THE MAJORITY OF THEM
REPRESENT CENTERPOINT CHURCH. 
          I HAVE A STATEMENT I WOULD LIKE TO READ TO YOU. 
          I ASKED TO BE HERE TONIGHT IN ORDER TO REMIND YOU WHY WE'RE GOING TO SUCH LENGTHS TO
REZONE THIS PROPERTY AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH THE REMAINING ACREAGE. 
          FOR THE PAST 20 YEARS, I HAVE SERVED AS THE PASTOR OF CENTERPOINT CHURCH,
FORMERLY KNOWN AS ZION CHURCH, OR ZION CHRISTIAN CHURCH. WE'VE BEEN VISIBLY ACTIVE WITH WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY FOR YEARS. 
          I'VE STOOD BEFORE THIS COUNCIL OR YOUR PREVIOUS COUNCILS A NUMBER OF TIMES. 
          WE WANT WHAT IS BEST FOR THIS CITY. AND I BELIEVE THAT INCLUDES A STRONG SPIRITUAL
LEADERSHIP. 
          WE HAVE OUTGROWN OUR PRESENT FACILITY. WE WERE OVERLY PACKED FOR FOR SERVICES ON EASTER
AND THIS PAST SUNDAY. 
          SAME THING WITH THREE FOR FOR FOR, FOR ALMOST FIVE YEARS,
WE'VE BEEN PLANNING THIS EXPANSION. 
          AND ALMOST THREE YEARS AGO WE STARTED FUNDRAISING FOR THE GROWTH OF OUR,
OF OUR FACILITIES. 
          OUR GOAL IS TO ERECT A NEW SANCTUARY FOR ADULT WORSHIP AND FOR OTHER SPECIAL EVENTS. 
          THEN WE'LL USE MUCH OF THE PREVIOUS BUILDING WE HAVE REFURBISH IT,
REMODEL IT FOR AN EXPANDED CHILDREN'S MINISTRY THAT WE WILL BE MODERN AND SECURE. OUR PRESENT STRUCTURE WILL ALSO BE DEDICATED. 
          PART OF OUR PRESENT STRUCTURE WILL BE DEDICATED TO THE YOUTH MINISTRY. 
          THIS WILL BE NOT JUST FOR CHURCH KIDS BUT FOR COMMUNITY KIDS CENTER POINTS. 
          NEVER HAD THAT BEFORE, BUT WE'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT WE NEEDED IT. 
          WE THINK THE CITY NEEDS IT. I THINK OUR YOUTH NEEDS A SAFE PLACE TO BE ABLE TO GO
THROUGHOUT THE WEEK. 
          THE SALE OF THE PROPERTY IS NECESSARY FOR US TO HAVE THE FUNDS TO BUILD THE THE THE NEW
BUILDING AND TO REMODEL THE OLD ONE. 
          THE REZONING IS ESSENTIAL IN ORDER TO HAVE A BUYER WHO WILL BUILD HOMES THAT WILL
COMPLIMENT, NOT DISTRACT, BUT COMPLIMENT OUR NEIGHBORS. IT WILL ALSO HELP US DEAL WITH THE HOMELESS
PROBLEM. 
          WE HAVE A LOT OF ACREAGE THAT IS GOT A LOT OF TREES AND UNDERBRUSH ON IT,
AND WE FIND NEEDLES THERE ON A REGULAR BASIS. 
          WE'LL HAVE 200 CHILDREN AND YOUTH MINISTER AND YOUTH ON THAT PROPERTY THROUGHOUT THE WEEK. 
          AND WE DON'T REALLY THINK IT'S THE MOST APPROPRIATE NOR SAFE AREA WITH SOME OF THE THINGS
THAT ARE GOING AROUND JUST AROUND THE AROUND THE CHURCH. 
          MR.. MAYOR. LIKE MOST CHURCHES IN OUR CITY, I BELIEVE THE CHURCH IS A VITAL HAS A VITAL
ROLE TO ROLE TO PLAY IN THIS GROWING CITY. 
          WE NEED MORE PHYSICAL INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT WE ALSO NEED OUR SPIRITUAL INFRASTRUCTURE TO BE
STRONG. 
          WE ARE A SEMI-LARGE CHURCH, ONE OF THE LARGER ONES IN PALM BAY. 
          AND I FEEL WE ARE POSITIONED TO PHYSICALLY AND SPIRITUALLY DO OUR PART TO MAKE THIS A
STRONGER CITY, TO EXTEND GOD'S KINGDOM. IT'LL BE FOR THE BETTERMENT OF ITS CITIZENS AND ULTIMATELY FOR
GOD'S GLORY. 
          I'M ASKING YOU TO PASS THIS ZONING REQUEST. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I'M JUST SAYING IT TO ME. I COULD HAVE JUST PASSED IT OUT. 
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AGAIN. GOOD EVENING. I HAVE PROVIDED A HANDOUT ONLY JUST TO GIVE YOU A BETTER
REPRESENTATION OF THE AREA AND ALSO OF THE ZONING CODE BEFORE THE REQUEST WAS FOR RS TWO. IT NOW IS FOR RS ONE. 
          THE TABLE OF STANDARDS IS THE FIRST PAGE JUST FOR YOUR REFERENCE. 
          PAGE TWO SHOWS THE AERIAL OF WHERE THIS IS. YOU SEE IN RED IS THE CHURCH. 
          THE TWO PARCELS TO THE RIGHT TO THE EAST ARE THE TEN ACRES THAT WERE SEEKING TO BE
REZONED. 
          THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH OF THE RED BLOCK OF THE IS ALSO OWNED BY THE CHURCH. 
          YOU CAN SEE THESE ARE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. THERE'S MULTIFAMILY 20 UNITS TO THE ACRE,
ALMOST 300 UNITS TO THE NORTH. 
          THAT'S THE POINT AT PALM BAY. AND THEN YOU HAVE COMMERCIAL TO THE NORTH AND TO THE EAST.
THIS IS A SINGLE FAMILY AREA FOR THE MOST PART. 
          PAGE THREE THAT I'VE GIVEN YOU IS YOUR ZONING MAP,
AND THE GREEN DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING LISTED ON IT. 
          IS THE PROPERTY AT ISSUE? IT IS SURROUNDED BY RS ONE. 
          THERE'S ALSO RS TWO. CURRENTLY WITH THE CHURCH ZONE,
YOU HAVE RM 20 TO THE NORTH. 
          YOU DO HAVE ONE RR PORTION. I THINK IT'S ABOUT SIX ACRES,
WHICH IS THE AMERICAN LEGION. 
          THIS IS JUST TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF THE AREA. 
          THE STAFF REPORT AGAIN IS FROM SEPTEMBER 3RD OF 2025. 
          AND IN THAT STAFF REPORT, IT SAYS THAT THIS REZONING REQUEST,
WHICH WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE INTENSE BACK IN SEPTEMBER, WAS SUPPORTED BY THREE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICY GOALS. 
          ALSO, THE STAFF REPORT SAYS BASED UPON THE ANALYSIS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT,
THEY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AS THE PLAN IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH REVIEW AND APPROVAL CRITERIA AND THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. SECTION 172.022 E YOUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF RECOMMENDED
APPROVAL EVEN BACK IN SEPTEMBER WITH A MORE DENSE ZONING STAFF REPORT ALSO STATES THE MARKET. 
          THIS MEETS THE MARKET DEMAND FOR LOW DENSITY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT. 
          THE CITY. TRAFFIC ANALYSIS OPINED THAT EMERSON DRIVE WILL MAINTAIN ACCEPTABLE OPERATIONAL
CONDITIONS. 
          THE PROJECT WILL USE CITY WATER AND SEWER AND WILL NOT COMPROMISE PRESSURE,
VOLUME OR RELIABILITY. 
          THE SITE'S INFILL NATURE AND CONNECTIVITY TO EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE ENHANCES ITS
SUITABILITY FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. 
          THAT THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA. 
          THERE WAS ALSO A PRELIMINARY SCHOOL CONCURRENCY DATED JUNE 29TH OF 2025. 
          THAT WAS IN. THE PACKET WAS ALSO IN THE PACKET. THIS FOR THIS EVENING. 
          THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE CHARTER SCHOOLS, WHICH,
AS YOU MAY BE AWARE, HAS ACTUALLY PROVEN TO HAVE MORE CAPACITY IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM THAN BELIEVED WHEN THE NEW LEGISLATION WENT IN LAST YEAR. 
          BUT EVEN WITHOUT THE CHARTER SCHOOLS, THE PRELIMINARY EVALUATION FOUND THERE IS SUFFICIENT
CAPACITY FOR THE TOTAL PROJECTED STUDENT MEMBERSHIP FROM AN ADDITIONAL 41 HOMES, AND THAT INCLUDED THE NEARLY THREE ACRES OF PROPERTY FROM THE CHURCH THAT WERE GOING TO BE
PART OF THAT SUBDIVISION. 
          I KNOW THERE WAS AN ISSUE THAT WAS RAISED SEVERAL TIMES ABOUT SCHOOL CHILDREN BEING BUSSED
TO OTHER SCHOOLS WHEN THEY LIVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THAT'S NOT HOW THE PROCESS WORKS. THEY LOOK AT THE ADJACENT SCHOOL CONCURRENCY BY THE
INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY, THE 16 OTHER CITIES AND THE BREVARD COUNTY AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. 
          AND BASICALLY THEY WILL REDEVELOP THEIR SCHOOL LINES. 
          SO CHILDREN FROM THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WILL STAY IN THE LOCAL SCHOOLS,
AND THOSE FURTHER OUT WILL GO TO THE FURTHER AWAY SCHOOLS. 
          SO THESE CHILDREN WILL NOT BE BUSSED OUT OF THE SCHOOL CONCURRENCY AREA. 
          WHAT'S NOT STATED IN THE STAFF REPORT IS THAT THIS REZONING IS ALSO CONSISTENT WITH THE
CITY'S PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS ELEMENT OF THE CITY'S COMP PLAN. 
          WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU REVIEW THIS REQUEST BASED UPON YOUR STAFF REPORT AND UPON THE CITY
RECORD, AND NOT UPON SPECULATIVE CONCERNS OF LIKES OR DISLIKES OF THE NEIGHBORS. 
          THIS IS A GOOD PLAN TO ALLOW THE CHURCH TO MOVE FORWARD. 
          THIS HAS BEEN VACANT FOR A VERY LONG TIME, HAS BEEN CHURCH PROPERTY FOR A VERY LONG TIME,
AND THEY NEEDED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THEIR EXPANSION PLANS. 
          WITH THAT, WE REQUEST YOU APPROVE THIS REZONING REQUEST WITH THE CONDITION STATED IN THE
STAFF REPORT, THAT THEY WILL HAVE A SECONDARY ACCESS THAT WILL DEVELOP DURING SITE PLAN FOR EMERGENCY
USE. 
          AND I WOULD RESERVE TIME TO RESPOND TO ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. 
          ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU MA'AM. THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL SPEAKER CARDS? DEPUTY MAYOR. YES, SIR. PLEASE. OH, AS YOU WERE. 
          STAND FAST FOR THE QUESTION. MY NAME IS PAUL LEASE. 
          I LIVE AT 1253 ASHBORO CIRCLE, PALM BAY. I'VE BEEN LIVING HERE IN PALM BAY FOR ABOUT 21
YEARS. 
          I'M A MEMBER OF CENTER POINT CHURCH FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS. 
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I HAVE SEEN CENTER POINT GROW OVER THOSE YEARS. 
          AND THE REASON FOR THE GROWTH HAS BEEN BECAUSE OF THE MANY OUTREACH PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE
HAD THAT TOUCHED THE COMMUNITY AND BROUGHT THESE THESE PROGRAMS HAVE BEEN TO TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          AND BECAUSE OF THEM, CENTER POINT HAS OUTGROWN ITS PRESENT FACILITY. 
          AND IT NEEDS TO EXPAND TO EXPAND. IT TAKES MONEY. 
          THE CHURCH BODY HAS PLEDGED TO MEET THAT NEED,
BUT IT ALSO NEEDS TO SELL SOME OF ITS LAND TO COMPLETE THE FUNDING OF THE NEW FACILITY. 
          THAT LAND NEEDS TO BE REZONED. RIGHT NOW, THAT LAND IS EMPTY AND EMPTY. 
          LAND IS NO GOOD TO ANYONE AND CAN LEAD TO PROBLEMS. WE NEED TO LOOK NO FURTHER THAN DOWN AT THE COMPOUND. 
          AND WHAT HAPPENS DOWN THERE ON EMPTY LAND? EMPTY LAND CAN BE A CURSE,
AS IT SAYS IN GENESIS 31718. OR IT CAN BE A BLESSING. A BLESSING WOULD BE NEW HOUSES ON THAT LAND, NEW NEIGHBORS, NEW REVENUE AND TAXES TO THE PALM BAY CITY. 
          CENTER POINT NEEDS TO HAVE THAT MONEY TO EXPAND AND TO CONTINUE FEEDING GOD'S SHEEP. 
          I ASKED THE BOARD MEMBERS TO BE PART OF THAT BLESSING. 
          THE BLESSING TO MAKE CENTER POINT FACILITY GROW AND EXPAND. 
          SO I'M ASKING THE BOARD TO PLEASE CONSIDER REZONING THAT LAND AND TO OUR NEIGHBORS,
OUR CHURCH NEIGHBORS. 
          I PRAY GOD'S BLESSING ON THEM, AND I INVITE THEM TO COME TO THE NEW FACILITY WHEN IT'S
OPEN. 
          AND I THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK. THANK YOU. 
          BILL BENTON. HOLD ON, MASTER CHIEF. STAND FAST. 
          YOU HAD A QUESTION? NO, NOT FOR YOU, SIR, FOR MISS ROSENKER. 
          MR. ZENKO? YES, I SAW ON THE SCHOOL CONCURRENCY. 
          WHAT IS THE SCHOOL CONCURRENCY BASED ON? LIKE WHEN IS THAT? WHAT IS THAT INFORMATION FOR THAT SCHOOL CONCURRENCY FROM. 
          THIS WAS THIS WAS DONE IN JUNE. SO THAT SCHOOL CONCURRENCY WOULD HAVE BEEN SOMETIME IN
2025. 
          THAT'S A PRELIMINARY CONCURRENCY. A NEW CONCURRENCY WOULD NEED TO BE DONE FOR. BUT WHERE
DO THEY GET THOSE NUMBERS FOR FOR THAT CONCURRENCY? WHEN DO THEY DO THAT CONCURRENCY? THEY I, I'M NOT A EXPERT,
BUT I KNOW THEY DO THEM SEVERAL TIMES. 
          I KNOW THIS, THEY JUST REDID THIS SCHOOL YEAR IN OCTOBER AND ALL THE COUNTS WENT WAY DOWN. 
          OKAY. SO DO YOU HAVE AN UPDATED ONE OR IS IT JUST FROM 18 MONTHS AGO? IT'S FROM LAST JUNE. WELL, OR THE NUMBERS TAKEN IN JUNE OR WERE THE NUMBERS TAKEN IN
OCTOBER? AND YOUR LETTER IS IN JUNE. WE GO BY WHATEVER THE SCHOOL DISTRICT GIVES US. 
          THAT'S NOT OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO FIND OUT WHEN THEY COUNT IT. 
          WELL, I MEAN, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT I'M NOT MAKING A DECISION AFTER 18 MONTHS OF
STUDENTS HAVE BEEN COMING TO OUR CITY. 
          YOU WOULD BE USING THE JUNE REPORT, WHICH IS,
IS THAT THE IS IS THAT THE UPDATED REPORT IS WHAT I'M ASKING. 
          IT'S THE REPORT THAT YOUR STAFF HAS RELIED UPON AND THAT WE'VE RELIED UPON. 
          NO, WHAT I'M SAYING IS IT THE UPDATED ONE? IS THAT THE ACTUAL NUMBERS IN THIS SCHOOL THAT
LIKE, IF WE REQUESTED ONE RIGHT NOW, WOULD YOU GET THE SAME REPORT? IT WOULD BE IT WOULD BE LESS IMPACTS. I KNOW THAT BECAUSE OF WHAT I'VE SEEN WITH THE OTHER
REPORTS THAT HAVE COME OUT. 
          THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. MAYOR DEPUTY. YEAH. 
          WOULD WOULD THIS BE THE ONLY TIME IF THIS PASSED TONIGHT? WOULD THE COUNCIL WOULD SEE A SCHOOL CONCURRENCY REPORT AGAIN,
A SITE PLAN APPROVAL. 
          YOU WON'T SEE THE SITE PLAN, I DON'T BELIEVE,
BUT THE STAFF WOULD SEE IT. 
          THERE WOULD BE BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE WAS BUILT,
ANY SUBDIVISION, THERE WOULD BE A FINAL CONCURRENCY REPORT, JUST AS ANY DEVELOPMENT HAS TO DO. THANK YOU. 
          SO, MR. ZENKO, SINCE YOU READ PURPOSE THIS PLAN. 
          RIGHT. AND YOUR REQUEST, HAVE YOU ALSO CONDUCTED ANOTHER CITIZEN PARTICIPATION MEETING. 
          DID YOU UPDATE THAT WITH THE RESIDENTS? NO, SIR. 
          NO. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. BILL BATTEN. I'M SORRY,
MR. CHIEF. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST. 
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REWINDING MY TAPES FOR THOSE PEOPLE WITH TAPES MEANS THAT'S HOW OLD I AM. 
          I USE TAPES INSTEAD OF DVDS. A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO,
THE CITY WAS BRAGGING ON HOW YOU HAD A LONG CONVERSATION WITH CONGRESSMAN MIKE HARIDOPOLOS ON WHETHER YOU'RE TRYING TO DO TO
BRING SOME MORE GROWTH, COMMERCIAL GROWTH INTO THE CITY OF PALM BAY. AND YOU ASKED HIM WHAT WAS ONE OF THE HOLDUPS
THAT WAS HINDERING THE GROWTH FOR COMMERCIAL IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY? AND HE SAID,
WELL, THAT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE NO HOMES THAT MEET THE CRITERIA THAT THE ESTATES THAT THESE HEAVY, THESE HEAVY DEVELOPERS WANT OR COMMERCIALS
WANT. 
          THE HOME SITES THAT THESE PEOPLE WANT ARE MULTIMILLION DOLLAR HOME SITES THAT THEY'RE
TRYING TO MOVE. 
          THAT'S THE POPULATION YOU NEED TO BE BRINGING INTO THE CITY OF PALM BAY. 
          AND THEY SAID, WELL, ALL YOU HAVE IS THE MEDIUM MEDIUM INCOME HOMES IN THE CITY OF PALM
BAY. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE ANY LARGE ESTATE SETUPS FOR THE FOR THE EXECUTIVES,
FOR THESE FOR THIS COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. 
          SO THEY SAID THAT WAS YOUR NUMBER ONE HOLD UP. 
          HAPPENED TO BE THAT THERE WAS NO HOUSING FOR THE EXECUTIVES. 
          AND YOU WERE BRAGGING ABOUT HOW YOU HAD THAT BIG CONVERSATION WITH THE CONGRESSMAN. 
          WELL, I'VE BEEN SAYING FOR MANY, MANY YEARS,
AND SO HAS THE MAYOR. 
          IF WE KEEP MAKING SMALL, MINIMAL LOT DEVELOPMENTS,
YOU'RE GOING TO GET SMALL MINIMUM GROWTH. 
          THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN FOR THE POPULATION THAT MOVES IN. 
          AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET SOME ESTATE HOUSING COMING IN. 
          SO WE HAVE SOME NICER HOMES TO COINCIDE FOR THE CITY. 
          AND THE WAY YOU CAN DO THAT IS THIS RURAL RESIDENTIAL. 
          IT'S ONE HOUSE PER ACRE. RR IS ZONED ONE HOUSE PER ACRE. 
          THAT'S WHAT YOU COULD GET. YOU CAN BUILD A BEAUTIFUL HOME ON ONE ACRE SITES. 
          OR YOU COULD BUILD EVEN A BETTER HOME. ONE MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR HOME ON THE TEN ACRES AND
STILL HAVE THE SAME REVENUE COMING INTO THE CITY WITH A LOWER POPULATION. AND SOME EXECUTIVE MIGHT BE GLAD TO LIVE RIGHT THERE. 
          SO THIS MAKES IT EASY FOR THE COUNCIL. YOU DON'T HAVE TO CHANGE THE ZONING. 
          YOU CAN KEEP THE ZONING AS RURAL RESIDENTIAL. 
          THEY CAN STILL BUILD EXECUTIVE HOMES IN THAT SITE SO THEY CAN STILL BUILD HOMES,
AND YOU WON'T BE VIOLATING ANY LAWS BECAUSE THE ZONING WAS WHAT WAS ALREADY THERE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE UPSET,
AND NOBODY GETS UPSET BECAUSE THE CHURCH KNEW THAT THEY WERE BUILDING AND OWNING ON RURAL RESIDENTIAL LAND. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER STEVE. 
          STEVE PETTY. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCILMAN APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO JUST SPEAK WITH YOU ALL
AGAIN AND, AND SHARE SOME OF THE VISION FOR WHAT CENTERPOINT IS DOING AND WHY WE'RE DOING IT. 
          AS PASTOR TOM WAS SAYING, WE'VE SEEN CENTERPOINT CHURCH MAKE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT IN OUR
COMMUNITY AND CONTINUE TO DRAW PEOPLE IN ON A REGULAR BASIS. 
          HE MENTIONED THE PAST EASTER SUNDAY. IT WAS APPROXIMATELY 1800 PEOPLE THAT WERE THERE FOR
THAT WEEKEND. 
          THERE WERE ALMOST 500 PEOPLE THERE FOR THE GOOD FRIDAY SERVICE ON FRIDAY NIGHT. 
          AND WE CONTINUE TO SEE THAT IN AN OVERFLOWING PARKING LOT AND EVERYTHING THAT IS IMPACTED
WITH THAT. 
          IT'S OUR DESIRE TO BETTER MEET THE NEEDS OF THE PEOPLE THAT COME THERE. 
          BY HAVING THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE TO PROVIDE FOR THE PARKING,
TO PROVIDE FOR THE CHILDREN IN A SAFE ENVIRONMENT, AND TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE PEOPLE THERE. BUT WE'RE TRYING TO DO THAT IN A WAY THAT ALSO
STAYS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY THAT WE ARE A PART OF. 
          I CAN APPRECIATE SOMEONE WHO'S PASSIONATE ABOUT THE RURAL RESIDENTIAL LAND,
BUT I DON'T KNOW ANYONE WHO'S GOING TO WANT TO BUILD $1 MILLION HOME RIGHT BEHIND A THREE STORY APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT'S ADJACENT TO WALMART. 
          THAT'S NOT THE TYPE OF PROPERTY THEY'RE LOOKING FOR TO BUILD MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR HOMES. 
          AND SO WE ARE SIMPLY TRYING TO MEET WHAT IS CURRENTLY OUR NEIGHBOR AND WHAT IS THERE IN
THAT PLACE. 
          WE BELIEVE THAT WE ARE CALLED TO CONTINUE TO MEET OUR GOAL AS A CHURCH,
TO MAKE AN IMPACT FOR CHRIST IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          THIS IS REALLY OUR LAST, BEST EFFORT TO DO THAT IN HARMONY WITH OUR COMMUNITY. 
          IF WE CAN'T GO FORWARD IN THIS PATH, WE DO NOT BELIEVE THAT IS OUR STOPPING POINT BECAUSE
WE BELIEVE THAT WE ARE STILL CONTINUING, CALLED TO BUILD AND TO GROW. MY WIFE AND I HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE INTRODUCED TO A
GENTLEMAN WHO HAS ALREADY HELPED TWO OTHER CHURCHES IN BREVARD COUNTY 
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BUILD UNDER THE YES IN GOD'S BACKYARD PLAN. WE KNOW THAT PLAN PROVIDES HONESTLY A MUCH
LARGER FINANCIAL IMPACT FOR US MOVING FORWARD, BUT THAT'S NOT IN HARMONY WITH OUR COMMUNITY,
AND THAT IS NOT THE PATH THAT WE HAVE DESIRED TO GO. 
          BUT IT WOULD BE THE LAST REMAINING PATH AVAILABLE TO US IF WE ARE NOT ABLE TO,
TO FALL INTO AGREEMENT AT THIS POINT. 
          THAT'S WHY WE WENT THROUGH THE MEDIATION. IT'S WHY WE WENT BACK AND FORTH WITH WHAT WE
BELIEVE WE NEEDED AND WHAT THE COMMUNITY NEEDED TO COME UP WITH A PLAN THAT HOPEFULLY SITS WELL WITH YOU AS COUNCIL MEMBERS AND WITH OUR COMMUNITY AS WELL. 
          SO WE APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO, BUT WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO BEING ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH
THE PLAN TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY BETTER AND TO SERVE OUR CHURCH BETTER. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. BARRY ESCHENBURG. 
          GOOD EVENING COUNCIL, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR GIVING US AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON THIS
SUBJECT HERE. 
          BARRY ESCHENBURG LIVED HERE 943 SALINA STREET AND A RESIDENT FOR OVER 30 YEARS. 
          LIFELONG BORN HERE, RESIDENT OF BREVARD COUNTY. 
          WHEN IT COMES TO THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE HERE YOU KNOW,
WE'VE ALL EXPERIENCED GROWTH AROUND. 
          I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN BEAT UP OVER THE GROWTH,
YOU KNOW, IN PALM BAY FOR QUITE SOME TIME. 
          BUT I WANT TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION AND THE FOLKS THAT LIVE AROUND THE CURRENT CHURCH
AREA, SOMETHING POSITIVE SOMETHING THAT YOU MAY NOT UNDER,
MIGHT NOT BE AWARE OF. 
          I THINK YOU ARE, MR. MAYOR. YOU'VE BEEN AT SOME OF OUR EVENTS,
BUT WE HAVE HUNDREDS OF KIDS WHO ATTEND OUR CHRISTIAN SUMMER CAMP EVERY YEAR. THAT'S OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE'RE SUPPORTING THOUSANDS OF KIDS THAT WE SUPPORT THROUGH
BACKPACKS BACK TO SCHOOL SUPPLIES FREE HAIRCUTS, DENTAL ASSISTANTS RIGHT THERE AT THE CHURCH. 
          SO WE DO OUR HOMELESS FOLKS THAT WE SEE ALL AROUND US,
WE PASS THEM BY, WE KIND OF IGNORE THEM, BUT WE'RE OUT THERE MEETING THEM AT THE CAMPS THAT THEY LIVE IN,
BRINGING THEM FOOD, TAKING CARE OF THEM. 
          SO AS A CHURCH, WE DO A LOT. IT'S ONE OF OUR BIG PRIORITIES IS HELPING REACH OUT TO THE
LOCAL COMMUNITY. 
          SO THE INCONVENIENCE THAT IT MAY BRING TO SOME FOLKS,
AND TRUST ME, I'M ON A STREET THAT GOT BLOWN UP WITH HOUSES, SO I DEAL WITH IT. WE ALL DO. BUT IF WE LOOK AT THINGS IN A HELPING MANNER,
THE SMALL INCONVENIENCE OF HAVING SOME EXTRA HOUSES IN THAT AREA COMPARED TO WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING AS A CHURCH,
I THINK IS, IS PRETTY SMALL. 
          SOMETHING TO GIVE UP. WHEN WE HAVE A THREAT OF HURRICANES,
WE'RE OUT THERE HELPING OUR NEIGHBORS BOARD UP. 
          AND THESE AREN'T ALL MEMBERS OF OUR CHURCH. WE GO OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND HELP OUT OUR
COMMUNITY MEMBERS. 
          SO AGAIN, WE DO A LOT TO HELP THOSE FOLKS AROUND US IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          SO AS THE CURRENT GOVERNING BODY YOU HAVE THE UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF A
REZONING OF SOME PROPERTY THAT WILL ACTUALLY RESULT IN CONTINUED LIFE CHANGING HELP THAT WE CAN PROVIDE TO OUR FRIENDS,
OUR NEIGHBORS, AND AT NO COST TO THE CITY. THAT'S ANOTHER THING. 
          YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE ARE COMING TO YOU GUYS,
GIVE US MONEY, GIVE US MONEY. WE'RE AS A COMMUNITY, OUR CHURCH, GIVING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY IN A WAY THAT DOESN'T AFFECT THE,
YOU KNOW, THE POCKETBOOK OF THE CITY. 
          SO I CHALLENGE YOU GUYS TO GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THIS REZONING AS A RESULT OF IT'LL BE A
VERY POSITIVE COMMUNITY IMPACT ON THAT. SO AS IT STATES IN CLOSING HERE IN MATTHEW 2540,
WHEN YOU HAVE WHAT YOU, WHAT YOU HAVE DONE FOR THE LEAST OF MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS,
YOU HAVE DONE FOR ME. 
          SO BY APPROVING THE REZONING OF THIS PROPERTY,
YOU HELP US TO CONTINUE DOING FOR OUR FRIENDS, OUR NEIGHBORS, AND THE LEAST OF OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU
GUYS DO EACH AND EVERY DAY. 
          THANK YOU. KENDALL. 
          KENDALL GOT ONE FIVE FOR ANGELO ROAD SOUTHEAST. 
          I DO NOT GO TO CENTER POINT. 
          BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, AS SOMEONE WHO DOES NOT GO TO CENTER POINT,
THAT IN REALITY, COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS LOOK FOR WHERE THERE IS GREAT TRAFFIC, 
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WHERE THERE'S GREAT TRAFFIC, THEY DRAW AND THEY INVEST IN BUSINESSES BECAUSE THEY KNOW
THEY'LL BE PEOPLE COMING TO THAT AREA. 
          WHEN THERE IS MORE POPULATION. OUR EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM LOOKS AT THE NEEDS AND OPENS A
SCHOOL TO MEET THE NEEDS OF MORE PEOPLE IN THAT AREA. 
          A CITY'S QUALITY ISN'T ALWAYS ABOUT DOLLARS AND CENTS,
AND ABOUT HOW MANY TAXES A CITY CAN MAKE. 
          THE FACT THAT THERE IS AN INCREASED FOOT TRAFFIC AT CENTER POINT FOR THAT CHURCH,
IT MEANS THAT THERE IS A NEED THAT PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR. BECAUSE THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE ATTENDING SPEAKS,
THERE'S A GROWING NEED FOR A SPIRITUAL EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITY AT THAT LOCATION. THE QUALITY OF THIS CITY CAN ONLY BE ENHANCED BY MEETING THE
SPIRITUAL NEEDS OF THAT COMMUNITY. THE IMPACT THROUGH THEIR OUTREACHES ENHANCES THE CITY,
WHICH WILL THEN DRAW IN THE BUSINESS AND ULTIMATELY HELP THE INCOME OF THE CITY THROUGH TAXES. SO I WOULD SUPPORT AND WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO
GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE CHANGE. LET THE SPIRITUAL NEEDS BE MET. 
          LET THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY BE INCREASED BY THE IMPACT THAT
CENTREPOINT HAS IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          AND EVERYBODY WILL BENEFIT BY THAT DECISION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. THAT CONCLUDES THE CARDS. MAYOR. THERE ARE NO THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL SPEAKER CARDS, DEPUTY MAYOR. NO, SIR. OKAY. MADAM SPEAKER. 
          YES, MA'AM. THERE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE TURNED IN,
BUT COME ON IN. 
          YEAH. YEAH. ANYONE ELSE HAVE A SPEAKER CARD? THEY WISH. 
          WELL, PLEASE STEP FORWARD RIGHT NOW. SORRY. YEAH. 
          SORRY ABOUT THAT. WELL, GIVE IT TO ANYONE ELSE. 
          HAS A SPEAKER CARD THAT WISHES TO SPEAK. THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU. HAVE A SEAT THERE, SIR. THANK YOU. 
          CARRY ON. MA'AM. GOOD EVENING. MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. 
          MY NAME IS SHANI WYNETTE AND I AM A HOMEOWNER ON EMERALD ROAD. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. AND THANK YOU FOR THE DECISION YOU MADE LAST TIME
YOU STOOD UP FOR THIS COMMUNITY. 
          AND IT WAS NOTICED. I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU,
I DIDN'T EXPECT TO BE BACK HERE SO SOON. 
          I'D HOPED THE CHURCH WOULD HEAR YOUR THOUGHTFUL DECISION AND CHOOSE A DIFFERENT PATH FOR
THE GOOD OF ALL INVOLVED. 
          AT OUR LAST MEETING, A CENTERPOINT REP TOLD THIS ROOM THAT IF NEIGHBORS WANTED THIS LAND
TO STAY AS IT IS, THEN WE SHOULD HAVE BOUGHT IT OURSELVES. WE HAD NO GUARANTEES. 
          WE WERE ALSO TOLD THAT THEY'D ALWAYS INTENDED THIS LAND AS A FINANCIAL INVESTMENT. 
          I WANT TO HOLD THAT UP FOR A MOMENT, BECAUSE THIS COUNCIL ALSO HEARD FROM ITS OWN MAYOR A
GENUINE AND REASONABLE SOLUTION. 
          DEVELOP THE LAND UNDER ITS CURRENT ZONING. LARGER LOTS RURAL,
RESIDENTIAL. 
          IT WAS ZONED THAT WAY FOR A REASON. IT'S THE KIND OF HOUSING OUR CITY ACTUALLY HAS A
SHORTAGE OF AND WOULD REALLY BENEFIT FROM. 
          AND THE CHURCH'S RESPONSE? IT WOULDN'T BE PROFITABLE ENOUGH. 
          SO LET'S BE HONEST ABOUT WHAT THIS APPEAL IS REALLY ABOUT. 
          IT'S NOT ABOUT WHAT PALM BAY NEEDS. IT'S ABOUT SQUEEZING THE HIGHEST POSSIBLE RETURN OUT
OF A PIECE OF LAND THEY'D ALWAYS PLANNED TO SELL. 
          THE CHURCH KNEW EXACTLY HOW THIS PROPERTY WAS ZONED WHEN THEY PURCHASED IT. 
          THERE WERE NO GUARANTEES THAT COULD EVER BE CHANGED. 
          THEY TOOK A CALCULATED BET AND NOW EXPECT THIS COUNCIL TO MAKE GOOD ON THAT BET FOR THEM. 
          AND WHEN YOU DIDN'T, CENTERPOINT STOOD IN THIS ROOM AND THREATENED TO USE THEIR CHURCH
STATUS TO OVERRIDE THE WILL OF THIS COUNCIL AND TO CONVERT THE PROPERTY TO UP TO THREE STOREY SECTION EIGHT HOUSING. I'LL SAY WHAT I THINK MOST PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM WERE
THINKING. 
          THIS IS NOT THE STATEMENT OF AN ORGANIZATION ACTING IN GOOD FAITH TOWARD THIS COMMUNITY. 
          THIS IS A PRESSURE TACTIC DESIGNED TO MAKE US FEEL LIKE RESISTANCE IS FUTILE. 
          WE SEE THAT FOR WHAT IT IS, AND I TRUST YOU DO TOO. 
          WE'VE ALSO HEARD THIS REZONING IS NEEDED TO FUND A NEW CHURCH BUILDING,
A YOUTH CENTER FOR A GROWING CONGREGATION. 
          I RESPECT THAT MISSION. SINCERELY. BUT ONE OF YOUR OWN COUNCIL MEMBERS SAID SOMETHING AT
THE LAST HEARING THAT REALLY RESONATED THAT IN MODERN TIMES, YOU DON'T NEED FOUR WALLS TO GROW A FLOCK. THERE ARE MANY WAYS TO BUILD A THRIVING
MINISTRY THAT DON'T REQUIRE PERMANENTLY CHANGING THE CHARACTER OF AN ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD, DISPLACING PROTECTED WILDLIFE AND STRAINING INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WAS NEVER BUILT FOR THE
LOAD. 
          RESPECTFULLY, THE CHURCH'S FINANCIAL GOALS ARE NOT THIS COUNCIL'S RESPONSIBILITY TO
FULFILL. 
          ESPECIALLY AT THE EXPENSE OF THE PEOPLE YOU ARE ELECTED TO SERVE. 
          I WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT WITH YOU ABOUT SOMETHING PERSONAL. 
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MY HUSBAND WAS BORN AND RAISED IN PALM BAY. I'VE BEEN HERE NEARLY 20 YEARS. 
          WE OWN A BUSINESS HERE. WE'RE RAISING A YOUNG CHILD HERE AND HAD HOPED TO GROW OUR FAMILY
HERE, TO INVEST MORE DEEPLY IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR YEARS TO COME. 
          IF THIS REZONING IS APPROVED. WE ARE SERIOUSLY CONSIDERING WHETHER THIS IS STILL THE RIGHT
PLACE FOR US. 
          I DON'T SAY THAT AS A THREAT. I SAY IT BECAUSE I THINK YOU DESERVE TO KNOW THE REAL COST
OF THESE DECISIONS. 
          WHEN FAMILIES LIKE OURS ROOTED HERE, EMPLOYING PEOPLE HERE,
RAISING THE NEXT GENERATION HERE, START ASKING WHETHER IT'S TIME TO LEAVE, THAT IS A MOMENT THE CITY SHOULD PAY ATTENTION. 
          WE WANT TO STAY. WE WANT TO BELIEVE IN PALM BAY. 
          BUT WE NEED TO KNOW THIS COUNCIL WILL PROTECT WHAT MAKES IT WORTH BELIEVING IN. 
          PLEASE DENY THIS REQUEST ONCE AGAIN. YOU MADE THE RIGHT CALL LAST TIME. 
          THANK YOU. MA'AM. WE'RE JUST ASKING YOU TO STAND BEHIND IT. 
          TO STAND UP FOR WHAT IS GOOD, JUST AND TRUE FOR THE PEOPLE OF PALM BAY. 
          THANK YOU. ONE MINUTE. WE HAVE THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU. 
          MA'AM. YEAH. YES, SIR. STAND FAST. MA'AM. OH. 
          I'M SORRY. COME ON BACK. JUST RING BEFORE. 
          SHOULD THIS GET APPROVED, HOW WOULD IT AFFECT YOUR YOUR LIFE HERE IN PALM BAY? YEAH. SO MY DAUGHTER'S IN MY DAUGHTER'S BACK WINDOW,
LOOKS OUT AT THIS LAND ALREADY SINCE THE FIRST PORTION WENT TO THE APARTMENT COMPLEX, THE LIGHT AND SOUND POLLUTION IN THIS IS ALREADY CRAZY. 
          OKAY, SO CONSTANTLY, ANYTIME SIRENS ARE GOING UP AND DOWN MALABAR,
WE HEAR IT. 
          I WANT THIS TO BE KNOWN. THIS IS THE LAST PIECE OF GREEN SPACE THAT SEPARATES COMMERCIAL
MALABAR FROM THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION OF PALM BAY. 
          SO WHEN YOU TAKE THAT AWAY, YOU TAKE AWAY ALL,
ALL BARRIER AND SENSE OF IT BEING A NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          OKAY. ASIDE FROM THAT, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S GOING TO BE YEARS OF,
YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCTION AS THESE THINGS GO ON. 
          I'M REALLY A LITTLE BIT FRUSTRATED THAT THERE WAS NOT A NEW CITY MEETING FOR US TO OR,
I'M SORRY, MEETING WITH THE NEW DEVELOPERS TO DISCUSS A NEW PLAN. 
          WE WERE NOT BROUGHT IN ON ANY OF THIS. THAT'S PROBABLY WHY THERE'S ONLY ME AND MY HUSBAND
HERE, BECAUSE WE'RE THE ONLY ONE WHO SAW THE THING THAT CAME IN THE MAIL LAST TIME. WE HAD A LOT
OF SUPPORT. I DON'T THINK THAT'S AN ACCIDENT. REGARDLESS, IT IT JUST IT GOES FROM BEING A PLACE THAT YOU WANT TO CALL HOME THAT YOU WANT TO BE
VERSUS, YOU KNOW, AND THEY SAY, YOU KNOW, THAT WE THAT IT'D BE BETTER FOR US,
THE NEIGHBORS TO HAVE MORE HOUSING THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE HOUSING LIKE WE HAVE. 
          I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A RURAL RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBOR BEHIND ME. 
          I MEAN, A PERFECT WORLD, IT WOULD BE TREES, BUT REGARDLESS,
THAT WOULD BE THE NEXT BEST OPTION. 
          AND I EVEN US, I MEAN, AS WE POTENTIALLY OUTGROW OUR CURRENT HOME,
THAT'S THE TYPE OF HOUSING WE'D BE LOOKING FOR WOULD BE A BIGGER LOT. 
          AND AT THIS POINT, BECAUSE THERE ISN'T A LOT OF IT,
THAT'S WHY WE'D BE LOOKING TO MOVE ELSEWHERE. 
          SO IT JUST IT JUST I'VE REALLY APPRECIATED, I'VE SEEN THAT THIS ENTIRE COUNCIL HAS MADE A
POINT TO REALLY TALK ABOUT NOT RUBBER STAMPING, YOU KNOW, THESE ZONING APPROVALS AND REALLY BEING THOUGHTFUL ABOUT IT. 
          AND I WAS REALLY, REALLY PROUD WHEN I WALKED OUT OF THIS ROOM LAST TIME. 
          AND YOU GUYS STOOD UP FOR THAT, EVEN THOUGH,
YOU KNOW, I DON'T WE DON'T HAVE A WHOLE CONGREGATION TO CALL ON, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? WE'RE JUST PEOPLE LIVING HERE TRYING TO LIVE A GOOD LIFE FOR OUR
FAMILY. AND I JUST WANT TO KEEP FEELING PROUD OF WHERE I LIVE. 
          SORRY. ANYTHING ELSE? NEXT SPEAKER. BERNADETTE. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS BRIAN WYNETTE. 
          MY WIFE AND I ARE HOMEOWNERS ON EMERALD ROAD. 
          MY WIFE SPOKE TO WHAT THIS MEANS FOR OUR COMMUNITY,
BUT I WANT TO ADD SOME CONTEXT ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THIS LAND. 
          I THINK THE COUNCIL DESERVES TO HAVE IN FRONT OF THEM TONIGHT. THIS IS NOT CENTERPOINT'S
FIRST ATTEMPT TO DEVELOP THIS LAND. 
          A FEW YEARS AGO, THEY PROPOSED A 200 UNIT APARTMENT COMPLEX ON THE SAME PROPERTY. 
          THAT PROPOSAL DIDN'T EVEN SURVIVE THE ZONING BOARD. 
          IT WAS THAT FAR OUTSIDE OF THE BOUNDS OF WHAT MADE SENSE FOR THIS AREA. 
          NOW CENTER POINT IS BACK WITH A DENSE SINGLE FAMILY HOME,
AND THEY'D LIKE CREDIT FOR BEING REASONABLE FOR MATCHING THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT LET'S BE CLEAR ABOUT WHAT THAT ACTUALLY MEANS. 
          THEY DIDN'T ARRIVE AT THIS CURRENT PROPOSAL BECAUSE THEY CARE ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD
CHARACTER. 
          THEY ARRIVED AT IT BECAUSE EVERYTHING MORE PROFITABLE WAS ALREADY DENIED. 
          THIS COUNCIL IS NOT LOOKING AT A GOOD FAITH EFFORT TO FIND THE RIGHT FIT FOR THIS LAND. 
          IT'S LOOKING AT THE LAST ON A LIST OF OPTIONS PRESENTED TO YOU AS THOUGH IT WERE THE
FIRST. 
          THEIR APPEAL RESTS ON THE CLAIM THAT THEY TECHNICALLY MET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY
PLAN AND WERE WRONGFULLY DENIED. 
          BUT IS THIS COUNCIL RIGHTFULLY SAW REQUIREMENTS DO NOT EXIST IN A VACUUM. 
          OUR AREA IS IN THE MIDDLE OF A DEVELOPMENTAL SURGE. 
          WHATEVER PROJECTIONS THEY'VE SUBMITTED WERE CALCULATED WITHOUT HONESTLY ACCOUNTING FOR
EVERYTHING ALREADY PERMITTED AND BEING BUILT AROUND US. 
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EVEN IF THEY COME BEFORE YOU TONIGHT WITH UPDATED PROJECTIONS,
I'D STRONGLY ASK YOU TO CONSIDER WHO PAID FOR THEM AND WHETHER THEY'VE BEEN INDEPENDENTLY VERIFIED. A REPORT COMMISSIONED BY THE APPLICANT IS NOT A NEUTRAL DOCUMENT. 
          THE STANDARD ON APPEAL SHOULD BE HIGHER, NOT LOWER. 
          THIS COUNCIL HAS BEEN PUBLIC ABOUT ITS COMMITMENT TO STOP APPROVING THOUGHTLESS REZONING
REQUESTS TO MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON REAL COMMUNITY IMPACT, NOT MINIMUM TECHNICAL COMPLIANCE. THAT COMMITMENT IS EXACTLY WHAT'S BEING TESTED HERE
TONIGHT. 
          YOU'VE ALREADY CONSIDERED THIS PROPOSAL. THE PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY SPOKEN. 
          HOLD STEADY IN KNOWING THAT YOU MADE THE RIGHT CHOICE THE FIRST TIME. 
          AND THAT THE CONSTITUENTS ARE BEHIND YOU. I WANT TO COME BACK TO SOMETHING THE MAYOR SAID
AT THE LAST HEARING. 
          HE OFFERED THEM A REAL PATH FORWARD, DEVELOPED THIS LAND AS IT'S ALREADY ZONED RURAL,
RESIDENTIAL, ONE ACRE LOTS. HE SAID HE BELIEVED IN THIS CITY THAT IF THEY BUILT IT,
THE PEOPLE WOULD COME. 
          AND CENTERPOINT CHURCH AND DEVELOPERS RESPONDED BY SAYING IT WASN'T PROFITABLE ENOUGH. 
          THAT ANSWER SHOULD TELL THIS COUNCIL EVERYTHING IT NEEDS TO KNOW. THEY AREN'T HERE BECAUSE
THE CITY PLAN WAS MISAPPLIED. 
          THEY'RE HERE BECAUSE THIS COUNCIL DIDN'T DELIVER THE OUTCOME THEY WANTED,
AND THEY'RE HOPING ANOTHER ATTEMPT WILL WEAR US ALL DOWN. 
          WELL, WE'RE STILL HERE. WE'RE STILL FIGHTING. 
          PLEASE DO WHAT YOU DID LAST TIME. LOOK PAST THE TECHNICALITIES. 
          CONSIDER THE FULL PICTURE. LOOK INTO THE FUTURE AND PROTECT THE PEOPLE AND THE PLACE. 
          COUNTING ON YOU. PLEASE DENY THIS REQUEST ONCE AGAIN. 
          THANK YOU. HOLD ON. I BELIEVE COUNCILMAN HAMMOND HAS A QUESTION. 
          SHOULD THIS GET APPROVED, HOW WOULD IT AFFECT YOUR QUALITY OF LIFE IN YOUR OR IN YOUR YOUR
COMMUTE TO WORK? ABSOLUTELY. SO RIGHT NOW, IT IS TRULY RURAL RESIDENTIAL. 
          OKAY. WE HAVE SOME WOODS BEHIND US. THERE ARE,
YOU KNOW, ANIMALS AROUND. 
          IT IS A NICE PLACE TO TAKE A WALK. WHEN WE CUT BACK ALL THESE TREES AND WE PAVE OVER ALL
THESE ROADS AND WE JUST BUILD HOUSES, IT MAKES THE WHOLE AREA HOTTER. OKAY, IT'S ALREADY A VERY HOT PLACE AND IT'S A PROBLEM. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, MY WIFE ALWAYS WENT WITHOUT IT. 
          WE BOUGHT THIS HOUSE THINKING THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE THE HOUSE WHERE WE RAISED OUR
CHILD. 
          WE BOUGHT IT WITH A BACKYARD THAT WAS NEAR WOODS AND ZONED PROPERLY SO THAT IF SOMETHING
WAS DEVELOPED THERE, IT WOULD BE WITHIN THOSE BOUNDS. AND IT. IT WOULD JUST MAKE IT SO MUCH HARDER TO STAY IN
THE NOISE POLLUTION. 
          I CAN'T UNDERSTAND ENOUGH. ON MALABAR ROAD THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT LIGHTS,
GIANT PARKING LOT LIGHTS, AND THEY SHINE THROUGH THE WOODS. IF THEY GO IN,
THEY, YOU KNOW, LET'S BE HONEST, WHEN THEY CLEAR LAND, IT'S NOT LIKE THEY GO, OH, WE'LL KEEP A COUPLE OF THESE TREES. NO,
THEY'RE GOING TO CUT DOWN EVERY TREE IN THAT AREA. 
          WE'RE GOING TO BE STUCK WITH CONSTRUCTION NOISE. 
          WE'RE GOING TO BE STUCK WITH CONSTRUCTION POLLUTION,
AND WE'RE GOING TO BE STUCK WITH, YOU KNOW, HOUSES THAT ARE BEING MADE AS CHEAPLY AS POSSIBLE RIGHT BEHIND US FOR YEARS TO COME. 
          YEAH. I GREW UP RIGHT. BACKED UP TO AN AREA KNOWN AS THE COMPOUND. 
          IT'S AN AREA WHERE THEY BUILT OUT, YOU KNOW,
AND THE ECONOMY FELL THROUGH AND IT WAS JUST LEFT TO WASTE. 
          I HATE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN OF OTHER PLACES. I THINK IF IT IS KEPT WITH THIS ONE ACRE BIG
HOUSES THAT PEOPLE CARE ABOUT, THERE'S NO CHANCE OF THAT HAPPENING. THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS? NO, MA'AM. ANYONE HOLDING ANY SPEAKER CARDS? MISS ROSENKER. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL. 
          LET'S TALK ABOUT IF THIS WAS DEVELOPED AS A RURAL RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION OF ONE ACRE AND. 
          WELL, MA'AM, CAN I ASK A QUESTION THAT I HAD? WELL, FIRST OF ALL I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T MAKE THIS STATEMENT WHEN WE DENIED THIS
BACK LAST YEAR. 
          SUBSEQUENTLY, I WAS INVITED TO MEET WITH PASTOR TOM WALKER,
AND I DID MEET WITH HIM, BUT UNBEKNOWNST TO ME, WE WERE GOING TO SEE THIS AGAIN. SO FOR THE RECORD,
MADAM ATTORNEY, I DIDN'T KNOW WE'D BE FACING THIS AGAIN, OTHERWISE I WOULD HAVE MET WITH YOU. BUT IT WAS JUST AN OBLIGATION THAT I HAVE AS,
AS A MEMBER OF THE CLERGY AS WELL TO MY BROTHER PASTOR TO MEET WITH HIM AT HIS REQUEST. 
          AND THIS DID COME UP. NOT THE RESTRUCTURE OF ANYTHING,
BUT MORE ON HOW I FELT ON MY DECISION, HOW I VOTED, WHICH I MADE PUBLICLY ANYWAY. SO I WANTED TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD. 
          AND THEN A QUESTION I, I HAD AND I WANTED TO REFER BACK TO MR. PETTY. MR. PETTY MADE A COMMENT THAT THERE WAS ANOTHER OPTION,
AND I BELIEVE YOU TOUCHED ON IT THE LAST TIME WE, 
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WE HAD THIS BEFORE US ON THIS DENIAL. HE MENTIONED ANOTHER OPTION THAT THEY REALLY DIDN'T
WANT TO GO THROUGH. 
          AND WHAT IS THAT OPTION, FOR CLARITY'S SAKE? OKAY. 
          THAT OPTION IS THE LIVE LOCAL ACT. OKAY. AND IT IS UNDER 166.0415. 
          ONE OF THE FLORIDA STATUTES RECENTLY AMENDED THIS LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION TO REQUIRE THE
CITIES TO TAKE MULTIFAMILY AND MULTI USE PROJECTS ON RELIGIOUS INSTITUTION LAND LAST IN 20 2520. 
          BEFORE THIS WAS PASSED LAST YEAR, IT WAS A MAY,
IT'S NOW A SHALL IF THEY'VE OWNED IT FOR TEN YEARS. 
          SO THEY COULD COME IN AND DO A MIXED USE PROJECT AT THE HIGHEST DENSITY AND HIGHEST HEIGHT
ALLOWED BY YOUR ZONING CODE WITHIN ONE MILE, AND IT WOULD HAVE TO BE MIXED USE, BUT WOULD BE 10%,
AND THAT COULD BE ALMOST ANYTHING. 
          AND THAT'S EXACTLY PRETTY MUCH WHAT WE ENCOUNTERED AT WHAT BASS PRO,
IF YOU SEE THOSE APARTMENTS THERE, THEY'RE ABOUT TO BE COMPLETED. ALL RIGHT. CARRY ON. 
          MA'AM. I JUST HAD TO KNOW AND I WAS GOING TO GET INTO THAT. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR THAT SEGUE. THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY WANT TO DO. 
          THAT'S THAT'S NOT WHAT THE CITY WANTS. THEY DON'T WANT APARTMENT COMPLEXES THERE THESE
THESE THAT COUPLE CERTAINLY DOESN'T WANT APARTMENT COMPLEXES THERE AT RM2020 UNITS TO THE ACRE, JUST LIKE THERE IS TO THE NORTH OF HERE. 
          BUT I DO WANT TO TALK ABOUT SUBDIVISIONS AND SITE PLANS. 
          THIS IS JUST A ZONING. AND FRANKLY, I THINK IT'S VERY REASONABLE FOR THE CHURCH TO EXPECT
TO HAVE SIMILAR INCOMPATIBLE ZONING NEXT TO THE PROPERTIES THERE NEXT TO THE PROPERTIES AROUND THEM. I MEAN THAT THAT'S YOUR ZONING MAP. 
          IT'S VERY REASONABLE TO EXPECT THAT THEY COULD HAVE SIMILAR ZONING. 
          THE AMERICAN LEGION IS ALSO RR, BUT APPARENTLY THEY DIDN'T DEVELOP WITH SINGLE FAMILY LOTS
EITHER. 
          BUT IF YOU TALK ABOUT A SUBDIVISION, IF YOU TALK ABOUT ONE ACRE LOTS,
YOU TEAR DOWN ALL THE TREES, YOU BUILD IT UP. STILL. YOU PUT IN ROADS AND STORM WATERS. 
          SO THE TREES ARE GONE, THE WILDLIFE'S GONE, THE LIGHTS. 
          WHATEVER HAPPENED WITH THE LIGHTS? THERE'S PERFORMANCE STANDARDS FOR THAT. BUT I WANT TO
LOOK AT THE RR STANDARDS, THE RR STANDARDS. THEY CAN GO TO 35FT OR WITH THIS RS ONE,
IT'S ONLY 25FT WITH THE SETBACKS. 
          THE SETBACKS ARE THE SIDE CORNER LOTS ARE VERY SIMILAR. 
          THE SIDE INTERIORS ARE SIMILAR, THE REARS ARE SIMILAR,
SO THEY COULD STILL HAVE A AND ONLY 1200 SQUARE FEET. 
          SO YOU COULD HAVE A ONE ACRE SUBDIVISION LOT THAT'S COMPLETELY CLEAR CUT AT 35FT AND
400FT², IN THEORY. SO THE IDEA THAT THEIR IMPACTS ARE GOING TO BE GREATER WITH THE ZONING THAT
THEY HAVE IS NOT REALISTIC BECAUSE YOU STILL HAVE TO CREATE A SUBDIVISION. 
          THE REPORTS THAT ARE IN YOUR AGENDA PACKET WERE NOT CREATED BY THE APPLICANT. 
          THOSE WERE CREATED BY THE CITY AND BY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. 
          I DON'T CREATE THOSE. SO I DON'T KNOW WHEN THOSE COUNTS WERE MADE. 
          BUT AGAIN, IT'S VERY REASONABLE TO EXPECT SIMILAR ZONING. 
          AS TO THE CITY'S VISION THAT'S IN YOUR COMP PLAN. 
          THE COMP PLAN IS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. SURE,
RR MAY BE COMPATIBLE, BUT IT'S UP TO FIVE UNITS TO THE ACRE. 
          AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE VISION, YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S AROUND IT AND AROUND IT IS SIMILAR
SIZED LOTS, SIMILAR ZONING. THE STATEMENT THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS NOT BUILT FOR THE ZONING IS FLAT OUT WRONG. 
          YOUR STAFF SAYS THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS SUFFICIENT,
THAT THE ROADS ARE SUFFICIENT, THE WATER IS SUFFICIENT, AND THE SEWER IS SUFFICIENT. SO THERE IS SUFFICIENT INFRASTRUCTURE BY THE CITY STAFF
REPORT. 
          AGAIN, I HAVE TO REPEAT WHAT STEVE SAID. NO EXECUTIVE IS GOING TO WANT TO LIVE NEXT TO A
THREE STORY APARTMENT COMPLEX AND BEHIND A WALMART. 
          IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. THIS IS A LESS INTENSE ZONING REQUEST THAN WAS BEFORE YOU. 
          SO GOING BACK FOR COMMUNITY PARTICIPATION MEETING ONE WASN'T REQUIRED BECAUSE THIS WAS
JUST AMENDED, BUT THE SAME CONCERNS WOULD HAVE BEEN RAISED. 
          BUT THIS IS LESS INTENSE THAN WHAT WAS BROUGHT TO THE PUBLIC BEFORE. 
          AND AGAIN, IF WE DO GO FORWARD WITH ANY ZONING,
ANY SITE PLANNING, EVEN WITH LIVE LOCAL ACT, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME BACK WITH A SCHOOL CONCURRENCY PLAN. 
          SO IT WOULD BE AGAIN, REVIEWED BY YOUR STAFF IF NOTHING ELSE. 
          SO WE'RE HERE BECAUSE WE WENT THROUGH THE BERT HARRIS MEDIATION PROCESS. 
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WE'RE HERE BECAUSE WE FELT LIKE THE FINAL ORDER YOU ADOPTED WAS INCONSISTENT WITH YOUR
COMP PLAN AND WITH YOUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND YOUR STAFF REPORT. 
          THE THINGS THAT WERE RAISED BOTH AT PNC AND CITY COUNCIL WERE SPECULATIVE,
JUST AS THEY WERE HERE TONIGHT. 
          AND WE ASK THAT YOU LOOK AT YOUR STAFF, LOOK AT YOUR STAFF REPORT,
CONSIDER THAT THIS IS A NEW APPLICATION, AN AMENDED APPLICATION FOR A LESS INTENSE ZONING WITH PROPER INGRESS AND EGRESS. 
          AND THAT THE ZONING THAT'S BEEN THERE HASN'T BEEN USED FOR ANYTHING. 
          YOU HAVE THIS BIG GREEN SPOT THAT COULD BE DEVELOPED WITH THREE STORY APARTMENT BUILDINGS, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THE CHURCH WANTS. SO WITH THAT,
WE'D ASK FOR THE REZONING TO BE APPROVED WITH THE CONDITION. THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY. COUNCILOR COUNCIL,
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? MISS ROSENKER, ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? YES, SIR. I DON'T KNOW WHO COULD ANSWER IT, BUT FROM MY RESEARCH,
I'VE SEEN THE. 
          THE COUNTS FOR THE SCHOOL BOARD ARE DONE IN OCTOBER. 
          SO IF WE GOT THIS, THIS THIS LETTER, IT'S DONE FROM THE NUMBERS OF OCTOBER OF 2024. 
          WHAT IS AN AVERAGE OF PEOPLE THAT MOVED TO PALM BAY FROM OCTOBER OF 2024 TO NOW? ARE YOU ASKING OF THE CITY MANAGER OR. I DON'T HAVE THAT EXACT NUMBER. 
          I KNOW FOR A WHILE WE WERE HITTING. I WANT TO SAY IT'S GOING TO BE BALLPARK,
BUT I REMEMBER THE MONTHLY REPORTS, SEVEN 800 PEOPLE A MONTH IN THAT RANGE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'VE BEEN AT FOR THE LAST FEW
MONTHS. AND THOSE ARE OUR PROJECTIONS. 
          SO WELL OVER 7000 PEOPLE. AGAIN, THAT'S A PROJECTION BASED OFF THE ELECTRICAL METER
INSTALL. 
          SO IT'S NOT AN ACTUAL POPULATION PROJECTION. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. 
          OKAY. SO AT THIS TIME I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I NEED A MOTION MAYOR. 
          I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO TO PASS THIS SECOND. I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN,
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. 
          COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN, YOU MADE THE MOTION? YES,
MAYOR. 
          SO YOU KNOW MY REASONING. I WAS IN FAVOR OF IT THE FIRST TIME,
AND YOU KNOW, BUT I. 
          BUT I DO APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT'S GONE INTO IT. 
          SINCE THEN. I THINK THIS HAS BEEN A, YOU KNOW,
A GREAT COMPROMISE. 
          I'M HAPPY TO, TO SUPPORT THE CHURCH. THEY DO GREAT WORK,
BUT I'M ALSO HAPPY TO, TO HAVE THAT COMPROMISE WHERE WE'RE NOT GOING OVERBOARD. 
          AND THEN THERE'S ALSO ALWAYS THAT CONCERN ABOUT THE LIVE LOCAL THAT'S IN THE BACK OF MY
MIND. SO, AND IT MATCHES THE, YOU KNOW, THE NEIGHBORHOOD AROUND IT. SO I THINK THIS IS,
YOU KNOW, IN A COMPROMISE, NOT EVERYONE'S ALWAYS HAPPY, BUT EVERYONE DOES COME OUT WITH A, WITH A WIN. 
          SO I THINK THIS WAS GOOD WORK ALL AROUND. SO I'M GOING TO BE IN FAVOR. COUNCILMAN. 
          JOHNSON. SO I GUESS YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN QUOTED AND TIME AND TIME AGAIN I'LL JUST REPEAT
THAT. 
          I DO BELIEVE IN ONE ACRE LOTS. AND WHAT DEPUTY MAYOR OR NOT DEPUTY WHAT OUR CITY CITY
MANAGER OR I SHOULD SAY MASTER CHIEF ALLUDED TO WHEN HE SPOKE ABOUT OUR CITY MANAGER GOING UP TO DC. 
          WAS THAT THAT IS PART OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS THESE ONE ACRE LOTS. 
          AND I'VE BEEN CONSISTENT WITH THOSE ONE ACRE LOTS. 
          IN THAT MIND FRAME WHEN YOU LOOK AT, AS YOU SO ELOQUENTLY PUT IT THE LIVE LOCAL ACT THAT
IS A HUGE CONCERN. NUMBER ONE, NUMBER TWO THE SERVICE,
THE POTENTIAL SERVICE FOR OUR COMMUNITY. 
          AND I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THIS PROJECT BECAUSE IT WAS A PROJECT THAT HAD,
HAS THE POTENTIAL TO HAVE INCREASED HOUSING WITHIN THAT SAME TRACT OF LAND. AND ALSO I'VE ALSO SEEN WHERE IT WAS A RESPONSIBLE RECONSIDERATION OF THAT PROPERTY. AND I ALSO HAVE NOTICED THAT I'VE TAKEN INTO
CONSIDERATION. 
          THE APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT ARE ARE RESIDENTS DISCUSSED AND IN ITS TOTALITY TO HAVE 41
HOMES AND TO ASK THEM TO TO BUILD ONE ACRE ESTATE LOTS THERE. THAT WOULDN'T BE PRUDENT. 
          I WOULDN'T BE RESPONSIBLE TO HAVE PUT THAT KIND OF DEMAND. 
          EVEN THOUGH I AM A STERN BELIEVER IN ONE ACRE LOTS,
IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, I WILL BE VOTING FOR THIS GENTLEMAN. 
          [02:40:05]
I AM GOING AWAY FROM MY PRINCIPLES OF ONE ACRE LOT IN,
IN AN EFFORT TO, TO ACTUALLY MEET THEM AT THE PLACE WHERE THEY HAVE BROUGHT BACK A,
A PROPOSAL THAT WOULD BE MORE BENEFICIAL TO OUR COMMUNITY. WITH THAT BEING SAID, NO. WITH THAT BEING SAID,
THERE'S OTHER OTHER ISSUES THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT. OF COURSE, THE SCHOOL CONCURRENCY THAT YOU'RE ELOQUENTLY DISCUSSING ON,
ON THIS ISSUE, BUT AT THIS POINT, MY HEART HAS CHANGED AND I WILL BE VOTING IN FAVOR OF THIS COUNCILMAN
HAMMOND. 
          FIRST OFF, I WANT TO THANK THE CHURCH WHEN I ORIGINALLY MADE MY VOTE THE FIRST TIME AND I
VOTED NO, IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE PEOPLE AROUND IT. THERE WAS THERE WAS SO MANY PEOPLE AROUND IT THAT
WERE SO AFFECTED. 
          AND WE STILL HAVE PEOPLE AFFECTED BY IT RIGHT NOW. 
          SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE'S COMMENTS WERE, MAKE IT THE SAME AS OURS,
AND I'M OKAY WITH IT. 
          AND THOSE PEOPLE AREN'T IN THE ROOM TODAY. SO I DO COMMEND YOU FOR UPDATING THAT TO MATCH
THE PEOPLE AROUND IT. 
          BUT WHEN I GOT ELECTED, I MADE A PROMISE. AND THAT PROMISE WAS SMART GROWTH. 
          WHEN I GO AND I LOOK AT A SCHOOL CONCURRENCY FROM 18 MONTHS AGO. 
          I CAN'T MAKE A GOOD DECISION ON THAT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ROOM FOR THOSE KIDS. 
          SO I'M GOING TO BE IN DENIAL BECAUSE I DO NOT HAVE AN UPDATED SCHOOL CONCURRENCY ON THAT. 
          AND I WOULD ASK THIS COUNCIL IF THEY WOULD WAIT TO GET AN UPDATED SCHOOL CONCERT OR
CONCURRENCY BEFORE YOU MAKE A DECISION, BUT THAT'S UP TO YOU. I WILL NOT BE IN SUPPORT TONIGHT BECAUSE OF THAT. 
          THANK YOU. SO RIGHT NOW, DEPUTY MAYOR, CALL THE QUESTION. 
          OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY. WELL, I'VE GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN SECOND BY COUNCILMAN
JOHNSON. 
          ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED SIGNIFY BY SAYING NAY. 
          NAY. AND COULD I REQUEST A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? ROLL CALL, MADAM JONES. DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE. AYE. 
          COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON. AYE. COUNCILMAN. NAY. COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN A MAYOR MEDINA I. 
          WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN PUBLIC HEARINGS. 
          YES. YOU KNOW WHAT? BEFORE WE GO TO ITEM SEVEN,
WE'LL TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS. 
          THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO CALL THIS MEETING BACK TO ORDER. 
          WE ARE SEVEN. SEVEN. SEVEN. GOD BLESS YOU. VERY MUCH, SIR. OH, YEAH. WE'RE NOW. SIR. 
          WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, MADAM SMITH. ORDINANCE 2026-12 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF
PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE COASTAL MANAGEMENT ELEMENT INTERGOVERNMENTAL
COORDINATION ELEMENT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO ADOPT BREVARD COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PLAN PROVIDED FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. 
          THANK YOU, MA'AM. MR. MORTON, THANK YOU, HONORABLE MAYOR,
CITY COUNCIL, WE DO HAVE STAFF HERE, BUT IN SHORT, IF YOU DON'T WANT A PRESENTATION TONIGHT OR AN EXPLANATION WHICH WE CAN DO,
THIS IS REALLY CONSISTENCY MOVE TO PUT OURSELVES IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE REQUIREMENTS. WHEN WE'RE ADOPTING SOME LANGUAGE THAT TALKS ABOUT POST-DISASTER,
POST-DISASTER RECOVERY AND RESPONSE. 
          MORE IMPORTANTLY, YOU'LL SEE SEVERAL TIMES IN THE DOCUMENT AS REQUIRED. IT HAS BEEN ADDED
THAT, QUOTE, IT SHALL BE CONDUCTED IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE BREVARD COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE EMERGENCY
MANAGEMENT PLAN, THE CEMP AND IN COORDINATION WITH BREVARD COUNTY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. 
          YOU'LL SEE THAT LANGUAGE OVER AND OVER AGAIN. 
          THAT IS A REQUIREMENT THAT WE ARE CLEAR THAT ANYTHING WE DO IN THIS CME ELEMENT WILL BE IN
COOPERATION, COORDINATION AND ALIGNMENT WITH BREVARD COUNTY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. AND THAT IS TRULY,
REALLY THE BASIS OF THE CHANGES. THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR. THE CITY MANAGER. IS THIS CURRENTLY AN ORDINANCE? ARE WE CHANGING AN ORDINANCE THAT'S ALREADY IN PLACE? WE ARE MENDING THE CITY'S
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO CHANGE THE CME INTERGOVERNMENTAL. 
          SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS AND STAFF CAN CLARIFY IF I'M WRONG. 
          YOU DID HAVE THESE POLICIES EXISTING AND THEY WERE EITHER ONE SENTENCE OR AND OR DID NOT
INCLUDE THE ADDITIONAL VERBIAGE. 
          SO IT'S FLESHING THOSE OUT AND ADDING THAT VERBIAGE ABOUT COORDINATION WITH THE COUNTYWIDE
FRAMEWORK. COULD THIS BE PASSED WITH THE RESOLUTION, NOT THE COMPANY. 
          [02:45:05]
OKAY. THAT CONCLUDES YOUR QUESTIONS. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF COUNCIL SEEING NONE. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE. I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION. SO MOVED. SECOND. 
          GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. 
          MISS SMITH. RESOLUTION 2026-05. 
          AND RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY. BREVARD COUNTY,
FLORIDA. 
          APPROVING THE LOCAL HOUSING ASSISTANCE PLAN AS REQUIRED BY THE STATE HOUSING INITIATIVE
PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM ACT. 
          SUBSECTIONS 420.907-420.979. FLORIDA STATUTES AND RULE CHAPTER. 
          67-37, THE FLORIDA ADMINISTRATIVE CODE. AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO
EXECUTE ANY NECESSARY DOCUMENTS AND CERTIFICATIONS NEEDED BY THE STATE, AUTHORIZING THE SUBMISSION OF THE LOCAL HOUSING
ASSISTANCE PLAN FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL BY THE FLORIDA HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. 
          THANK YOU, MA'AM. MR. MORTON, THANK YOU, HONORABLE MAYOR,
CITY COUNCIL, I WILL DEFER MISS THE FABULOUS MISS DENISE CARTER HERE TONIGHT WITH A SHORT PRESENTATION TO EXPLAIN THE NATURE OF THE CHANGES. 
          THANK YOU, MADAM CARTER. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. 
          THIS REQUEST IS TO ADOPT THE 2026 TO 2029 LOCAL HOUSING ASSISTANCE PLAN. 
          WE HELD A SERIES OF MEETINGS TO RECEIVE PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THE PLAN. 
          ONE ON MARCH 11TH AND ANOTHER ON MARCH 18TH WITH THE CITY ADVISORY BOARD,
WHICH IS ALSO OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 
          COUNCILMAN JOHNSON SITS ON THE CDB SEED ADVISORY BOARD. 
          AND REPRESENTS CITY COUNCIL ON THAT. WE ALSO POSTED THE LHAT FOR 30 DAYS ON THE WEBSITE. 
          SO THIS IS THE FINAL MEETING THE LOCAL HOUSING ASSISTANCE PLAN AND I'LL GO THROUGH THE
SLIDES IS, IS A STATE MANDATED DOCUMENT FOR USING SHIP FUNDS TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR VERY
LOW, LOW AND LOW TO MODERATE INCOME HOUSEHOLDS. IT'S DESIGNED TO EXPAND AFFORDABLE HOUSING
PRODUCTION, PRESERVE EXISTING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND, AND ALIGN WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE HOUSING
ELEMENT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          SHIP FUNDS ARE GENERATED BY DOC STAMPS ON REAL ESTATE TRANSACTIONS. 
          THE FUNDS ARE DISTRIBUTED DIRECTLY TO COUNTIES AND CITIES USING STATUTORY POPULATION BASED
USING A STATUTORY BASE FORMULA. 
          THE SADOWSKI ACT. WHICH ACT WHICH PASSED IN 1992,
INCREASED THE DOCK STAMP PAID ON ALL REAL ESTATE TRANSACTIONS AND PLACED THESE MONIES IN A DEDICATED STATE HOUSING TRUST FUND. 
          THE MONEY FOR THE SCHIP PROGRAM COMES FROM PRIVATE REAL ESTATE TRANSACTIONS AND BENEFITS
VERY LOW, LOW AND LOW TO MODERATE INCOME RESIDENTS OF PALM BAY. 
          ON SLIDE TWO. SO WE'RE PROPOSING THE PROPOSED PLAN FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS. 
          THIS PLAN WILL BE IN EXISTENCE FOR THREE YEARS. 
          BUILDS ON CURRENT SUCCESSES BY OFFERING EIGHT DISTINCT STRATEGIES RANGING FROM PURCHASE
ASSISTANCE TO DISASTER. 
          AND YOU'LL SEE THAT THE CURRENT ONE IS ON THE LEFT AND THE PROPOSED IS ON THE RIGHT. 
          AND THEN I'LL GO THROUGH THE STRATEGIES. SO THE,
THE SPECIFIC STRATEGIES THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING WILL BE FOR HOME OWNERSHIP PURCHASE ASSISTANCE. QUALIFIED HOME BUYERS CAN RECEIVE UP TO 67,400 AND PURCHASE ASSISTANCE THROUGH
A ZERO INTEREST DEFERRED LOANS WITH FORGIVENESS PERIODS RANGING FROM 10 TO 15 YEARS. 
          OKAY. THE NEXT STRATEGY, SUBSTANTIAL REHABILITATION TO ADDRESS THE CURRENT WAIT LIST WHERE
WE HAVE BETWEEN 100 AND 13, 115, IT'S GONE DOWN A LITTLE BIT. 113 PEOPLE HOUSEHOLDS. 
          THIS STRATEGY PROVIDES UP TO $100,000 FOR MAJOR HOME REPAIRS WITH THE LOAN FORGIVENESS
PERIOD DETERMINED BY THE AWARD 
          [02:50:03]
HOMEOWNER REPAIR. THIS IS A NEW STRATEGY. THE REPAIR PROGRAM OFFERS UP TO 2000 TO ASSIST
EMERGENCY HOME REPAIRS, AND WE'VE HAD PEOPLE COME THROUGH WITH JUST NEEDING A LEAKING ROOF OR A HOT WATER HEATER,
ELECTRICAL HAZARDS THAT POSE IMMEDIATE HEALTH THREATS, AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THEM. 
          WE CAN'T DO IT NOW. DISASTER RELIEF ASSISTANCE. 
          AND IF WE HAD TO MOVE OUR MONIES TO FOLLOWING A DECLARED EMERGENCY,
WE CAN DO IT WITH THE SCHIP PROGRAM. 
          WE CAN'T DO IT WITH A LOT OF OUR OTHER PROGRAMS PROVIDES UP TO 4000 FOR HOMEOWNERS AND
15,000 FOR RENTERS TO COVER REPAIRS, INSURANCE DEDUCTIBLES OR TEMPORARY DISPLACEMENT,
THEN FORECLOSURE PREVENTION. 
          THAT'S ANOTHER NEW ONE. WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT. AND I KNOW COUNCILMAN JOHNSON ASKED LAST
NIGHT AT OUR ADVISORY BOARD HOW MANY THAT WE HAVE THAT WE KNOW OF RIGHT NOW IN, IN PALM BAY. AND WE'VE COUNTED 15 FORECLOSURES. 
          THAT'D BE A ONE TIME ASSISTANCE. UP TO $8,000 IS AVAILABLE TO HELP HOUSEHOLDS KEEP THEIR
HOMES DURING TEMPORARY FINANCIAL HARDSHIPS CAUSED BY EVENTS LIKE MEDICAL ILLNESS OR JOB LOSS. OKAY. DEMOLITION,
RECONSTRUCTION AND, AND THAT'S A HOME THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY THAT WE TORE DOWN IS THE FIRST ONE IN PALM BAY THAT'S
EVER BEEN DONE. 
          AND THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION NOW. AND THAT'S THE NEW HOME IN PROGRESS. 
          IT'S 90% NOW COMPLETE FOR HOMES FOUND TO BE IN SUBSTANTIAL CONDITION REHABILITATION AND
NEED MORE REHABILITATION. THAT STRATEGY IS THERE TO SPEND UP TO 349 000 FOR FULL RECONSTRUCTION WITH
A 20 YEAR LIEN RENTAL DEVELOPMENT, THE CITY PARTNERS, AND WE PARTNER WITH NON-PROFITS AND FOR PROFIT
DEVELOPERS TO PRODUCE AFFORDABLE RENTAL HOUSING, OFFERING UP TO 100 000 PER UNIT. 
          WE FINISHED IN DECEMBER OF DECEMBER 31ST. ON DECEMBER 31ST,
WE FINISHED THE WOMEN'S CENTER AND THAT WE DID THAT UNDER THAT STRATEGY, WHERE WE RENOVATED FOUR UNITS THAT HAD MOLD AND THEY WERE NOT. 
          THEY WERE VACANT FOR OVER A YEAR. AND WE DID THAT STRATEGY UNDER FOR THE WOMEN'S CENTER
UNDER THAT SWEAT EQUITY. 
          THIS IS A NEW ONE. IT'S ANOTHER WAY OF SPENDING,
GIVING LESS MONEY AND REACHING MORE PEOPLE. 
          SO THIS WILL BE PURCHASE ASSISTANCE, SWEAT EQUITY,
WHERE THEY WILL, THE HOMEOWNERS WILL GET TO PUT IN 200 HOURS COMMUNITY SERVICE WILL ALSO PUT DOWN A DOWN PAYMENT AND WILL THEN ALSO RECEIVE SOME MONIES FROM THE CITY THROUGH
A NONPROFIT TO HELP WITH PURCHASING THEIR THEIR HOME. THANK YOU. 
          STAFF THEN RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE 2026 2029 STATE HOUSING
INITIATIVE PARTNERSHIP PLAN AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO SIGN ALL OF THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS. 
          THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. THANK YOU, MISS CARTER,
AND THANK YOU FOR GETTING THAT ANSWER BACK FOR ME FROM LAST NIGHT. 
          MY FIRST QUESTION COULD RESIDENT APPLY FOR THE DOWN PAYMENT PROGRAM AND RECEIVE THE FUNDS
FROM THAT AND THEN FACE FORECLOSURE AND THEN APPLY AND RECEIVE THE FUNDS FOR THE FORECLOSURE AS WELL? WELL, WHAT WE, WE DID IN LOOKING AT THIS TOO,
WE PUT A, WE PUT A LIMIT ON HOW MUCH THEY CAN COME BACK FOR, AND I THINK IT'S $175,000 MAXIMUM. SO YES, THEY CAN. 
          YES THEY CAN. THEY CAN DO IT ONE TIME. THEY CAN COME BACK FOR FORECLOSURE,
BUT ONLY ONE TIME. 
          OKAY. AND WE DID NOT HAVE THAT LIMIT BEFORE. SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE TRY TO LOOK AT
WHEN WE WERE COMING UP WITH THIS STRATEGY. 
          WE STILL HAVE TO DO POLICIES, BUT WE TRY TO THINK ABOUT SOME OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE'RE
ENCOUNTERING. 
          SO AND, AND THAT'S LOOKING AT HOW, HOW MUCH PEOPLE ARE COMING BACK. 
          OKAY. SORRY. I'M THINKING BACK TO LAST NIGHT. 
          SO ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS WE'RE SEEING IS, YOU KNOW,
THE ISSUE WITH LACK OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          SO THE RENTAL DEVELOPMENT IS PROBABLY MY FAVORITE PIECE OF ALL OF THIS. 
          IF COUNCIL WANTED TO, COULD THEY TAKE AWAY JUST A PORTION,
LIKE ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT YOU SUGGESTED AND STILL MOVE THE LAP FORWARD OR. 
          [02:55:07]
WELL, WHAT THE STRATEGY YOU CAN, IF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO TO NOT US FOR US NOT TO DO THE
STRATEGY, THE WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE STRATEGY. IF WE DON'T HAVE THIS STRATEGY IN PLACE,
IF SOMETHING HAPPENS, WE CANNOT ADDRESS IT. SO THAT'S WHY WE WENT IN AND ADDED STRATEGIES LIKE FORECLOSURE. 
          WE HAD A PROPERTY OWNER COME TO US AND WE CALLED AROUND. 
          YOU ALL SEND PEOPLE TO US AND, AND THEY AND WE CALLED AROUND AND,
AND WE FOUND NOWHERE IN THE CITY THAT COULD HELP THEM. 
          SO WE SAID, THIS IS A STRATEGY. IF WE HAD IT IN PLACE,
WE WOULD NEED TO DEVELOP POLICIES FOR IT. 
          BUT WE COULD DO IT THEN. BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE THE STRATEGY IN THE IN THE IN THIS DOCUMENT, WE HAVE NO OPPORTUNITY TO EVEN DO IT UNLESS WE DO A FULL AMENDMENT AND COME BACK AND,
AND, AND ADD THAT STRATEGY. SO OKAY. AND I'LL ELABORATE WHERE MY,
MY MIND IS. 
          SO I, I'D BE MORE IN FAVOR OF LIKE THE RENTAL DEVELOPMENT TYPE PROJECTS WHERE A NONPROFIT
OR FOR PROFIT IS PROVIDING. WHAT I WAS SPEAKING ABOUT YESTERDAY WAS THE,
THE MISSING MIDDLE, YOU KNOW, DUPLEXES. 
          TRIPLEXES. SO THAT WAY YOU'RE, YOU'RE HELPING MORE PEOPLE WITH THE SAME AMOUNT OF LAND PER
SE. 
          SO WHERE THE PEOPLE WHO ALREADY HAVE THEIR HOMES AND THEY'RE ALREADY OWNING THEM NOW,
THAT'S THE OBLIGATION YOU HAVE. 
          SO MY THING IS, IF WE ARE IF THAT WE HAVE THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY,
AND THEN WE COULD HAVE SO MUCH GO TOWARDS RENTAL DEVELOPMENT OR TOWARDS AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT IT'S GETTING PULLED BY DOWN PAYMENTS AND PULLED BY FORECLOSURES
AND PULLED BY DISASTER RELIEF ASSISTANCE. 
          AND THEN IT'S LESS COMPARED TO WHAT WE COULD HAVE GOTTEN FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          THAT'S THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THE QUESTION ON IF WE CAN TAKE A PORTION OUT. 
          I'M NOT SAYING I'M GOING TO RIGHT NOW JUST KIND OF RUNNING THIS BY YOU. 
          MRS CARTER. WELL, I SEE IT TWO DIFFERENT WAYS. 
          I GUESS I SEE IT AS YOU CAN TELL US WHERE YOU WANT US TO CONCENTRATE,
BUT WE STILL NEED THE STRATEGIES BECAUSE WE NEED TO HAVE THE STRATEGIES IN PLACE IN ORDER TO DO SOMETHING. IF WE DON'T HAVE THE DISASTER STRATEGY AND SOMETHING
HAPPENS, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THE VERY LOW AND THE LOW INCOME PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN PALM BAY? IF WE DON'T HAVE THAT STRATEGY IN PLACE. SO THERE'S A DIFFERENCE IN HAVING THE STRATEGY IN
PLACE AND WHERE WE WILL TARGET OUR MONEY. 
          THERE'S A DIFFERENCE. SO YOU TELL US WHERE WE SHOULD TARGET OUR MONEY. 
          WE CAME UP AS WITH SOME OF THESE STRATEGIES,
EVEN FROM YOUR COMMENTS ALREADY. 
          RIGHT. BUT YOU TELL US WHERE YOU WANT US TO TARGET THE MONEY? THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN HAVING THE STRATEGIES IN PLACE. 
          THIS IS JUST TO GET THE STRATEGIES IN PLACE SO THAT SHOULD SOMETHING COME UP IN PALM BAY,
WE WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO MEET THE NEEDS. WELL, YOU KNOW COUNCILMAN JOHNSON,
I'M IN A POSITION WHERE I WOULD PREFER A HOMEOWNERS DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE BECAUSE I BELIEVE HOMEOWNERSHIP IS AN INVESTMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          AND I BELIEVE THAT THAT TYPE OF RESPONSIBILITY CHANGES A CULTURE. 
          NOW, TO YOUR ARGUMENT, THERE ARE SOME SITUATIONS WHERE THROUGH LOSS OF JOB OR WHATEVER,
AND, AND SOMETIMES THAT FORECLOSURE ASSISTANCE IS CRITICAL. 
          AND THEN THE REHAB ISSUE WHEN WE, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL SENIORS THAT HAVE NEEDED THAT TYPE OF
ASSISTANCE IN PARTICULAR, EVEN VETERANS. BUT SO I'M, I'M, I'M ON THE OTHER SPECTRUM OF IF WE'RE GOING TO INVEST IN
THE COMMUNITY, I WOULD WANT TO INVEST IN THOSE THAT ARE WILLING TO TO MAKE THAT DOWN. 
          PAYMENT ASSISTANCE. WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, THOUGH,
I WANT TO VALIDATE AS WELL BECAUSE RENTAL IS, IS A, A HUGE THING THAT HAS INCREASED OVER TIME. 
          RIGHT. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT IT WITH A DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE,
THEY COULD BE PAYING THEIR SALES RENT AND BUILDING EQUITY. 
          AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE I'M AT. SO THERE'S,
THERE'S A DIFFERENCE IN THAT, IN THAT CULTURE, RIGHT? BUT I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT PERSPECTIVE WITH YOU. 
          I HAVE COUNCILMAN HAMMER THAT WANTS TO WEIGH IN. 
          YEAH. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE DISASTER RELIEF ASSISTANCE,
WHICH WHICH IS AMAZING TO KNOW BEING ON THE DISASTER RELIEF COMMITTEE WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE TO KNOW. WE HAD AN IDEA OF A DISASTER RELIEF FOR OUR CITY. 
          MY ONLY QUESTION IS WITH OUR CITY SEEING YOU KNOW,
THE INFRASTRUCTURE WOES THAT WE HAVE WE HAVE EXPERIENCED WATER AND WE'VE EXPERIENCED DAMAGE THAT RON DESANTIS HAS NO CLUE ABOUT. 
          [03:00:05]
SO I WOULD SAY THE, THE MOST WATER OUR CITY HAS SEEN WAS NOT FROM A HURRICANE. 
          IT WAS FROM A STORM CALLED FAY THAT JUST SAT OVER. 
          IT SAT OVER US FOR ALMOST FIVE DAYS. THERE WAS NO FEMA FOR THAT. 
          THERE WAS NO NOTHING FOR THAT. OUR CITY JUST COULDN'T SUSTAIN THAT MUCH WATER. 
          NOW, IF SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPENS, I WAS ON THE SIDE OF MALABAR ROAD IN WATER UP TO
HERE. 
          I WAS DOWN IN IN PARR STREET, PUTTING PUTTING SANDBAGS IN PEOPLE'S HOMES INSIDE OF THEIR
HOMES TO KEEP THE WAVES FROM COMING IN. SO IF WE CAN CHANGE THAT TO WHERE OUR MAYOR DECLARES A STATE OF EMERGENCY
WITHIN OUR CITY, NOT DESANTIS, BECAUSE HE MIGHT NOT KNOW WHAT WE HAVE GOING ON HERE. 
          AND THERE ARE STORMS THAT WE WILL SEE WATER THAT CAN DESTROY HOMES. 
          I HAVE BEEN I HAVE EVEN BEEN OUT AT THE COMPOUND PULLING PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR FRONT YARDS,
EVERYTHING ON, ON, ON JUST A RAINSTORM. SO IS THAT AN OPTION THAT WE CAN DECLARE THE STATE OF EMERGENCY
OURSELVES TO GET THAT FUNDING FOR DISASTER RELIEF? OR DOES IT HAVE TO BE THE GOVERNOR? I BELIEVE IT HAS TO BE THE GOVERNOR,
BUT WE GET THAT DECLARATION ANYWAY. 
          WHEN THAT WHEN WHEN THEY WHEN, WHEN THAT TIME COMES. 
          SO THEY, THEY JUST, THEY DETERMINE THAT. WELL,
I THINK WHAT COUNCILMAN HAMMER IS REFERRING TO IS WE, WE DID HAVE AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF RAIN AND WE HAD NO AUTHORITY TO SAY WERE WE? IT'S A DISASTER. WE HAD PEOPLE. ONLY THE GOVERNOR CAN DO THAT. 
          THAT'S WHERE HE'S GOING. LIKE WE HAD PEOPLE'S POOLS ACTUALLY FLOAT UP AND START FLOATING
BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF WATER WE HAD. 
          NOW, THE OTHER THING THAT I WAS GOING TO SAY I'M EXCUSE EXCUSE ME,
SIR. 
          IS THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY THEN LOCALLY TO MAKE A DECISION ON WHERE OUR MONIES WILL GO. 
          LIKE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT TARGETING THE FUNDS. 
          SO IF THERE IS A NEED DURING THAT DISASTER, THEN WE CAN MAKE THAT DECISION LOCALLY TO MOVE
SOME MONIES TO DISASTER. 
          AND IS THAT IN THERE OR IS THAT SOMETHING WE NEED TO ADD? THAT'S A STRATEGY. OKAY. WE STILL HAVE TO DO THE POLICIES FOR THEM,
BUT IT'S A STRATEGY. 
          SO IN OTHER WORDS, WE HAVEN'T HAD A STRATEGY LIKE THAT BEFORE IS WHAT SHE'S SAYING. 
          I WOULD JUST MAKE SURE THAT STRATEGY IS THERE AND WE APPLY IT WHEN WHEN NO,
HOPEFULLY WE DON'T NEED IT, BUT. DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR QUESTION, SIR? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCIL. OKAY. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? ANYTHING ELSE, SIR? OKAY. WELL, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION. 
          SO MOVED. I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. 
          I'LL SECOND IT. SECONDED BY MAYOR MEDINA. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? SIGNIFY BY SAYING NAY. NAY. SO ROLL CALL PLEASE. 
          COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. AYE. COUNCILMAN HAMER. AYE. 
          COUNCILMAN. NAY. MAYOR. MEDINA. AYE. DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE AYE. 
          OKAY PASSES FOUR ONE. NOW WE'RE ON ITEMS TWO AND AS YOU WERE TWO AND THREE FROM CONSENT. 
          [CONSIDERATION OF ITEMS REMOVED FROM CONSENT AGENDA:]
I BELIEVE YOU PULLED. I WASN'T CLEAR ON WHO PULLED WHICH ONE,
BUT I BELIEVE YOU PULLED TWO. 
          YOU MIGHT HAVE PULLED THREE OR. BUT CARRY ON. 
          WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER TWO. COUNCILMAN. YES. MAYOR. 
          SO BOTH ITEMS. I'LL SPEAK THE SAME ON BOTH ITEMS. OKAY. MYSELF AND DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE, I THINK WERE THE MAIN ONES QUESTIONING AND SPEAKING
TO THEN FORMER CHIEF MARIO ANGELO IN REGARDS TO HOW MUCH THE BREVARD PUBLIC SCHOOLS IS PAYING TOWARDS OUR SROS. 
          AND THEN I REMEMBER THE LAST CONVERSATION WE HAD WHEN HE WAS AT THE PODIUM WAS THAT,
YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF DECIDED AMONGST THE SHERIFF AND ALL THE CHIEFS KIND OF GO WITH WHATEVER
IS RECOMMENDED, IF I'M RECALLING IT CORRECTLY. SO MY, MY MAIN THING IS THAT WE ARE THE ELECTED OFFICIALS. 
          IF ANYTHING, IT SHOULD BE US TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR BREVARD PUBLIC SCHOOL. 
          NOT CANDIDATES. SCHOOL BOARD, SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS. 
          YES, SIR. THANK YOU. BECAUSE IT'S I'VE TO ME,
THEY SHOULD BE PAYING THE FULL THE FULL PRICE FOR EVERY SRO. 
          [03:05:01]
THAT'S THAT'S MY STANCE. THAT'S HOW I FEEL BECAUSE EVERY TAXPAYERS ALREADY PAYING TOWARDS
BREVARD PUBLIC SCHOOLS. 
          SO IF THEY'RE SERVING THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, THEN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT SHOULD BE PAYING THE
FULL PRICE. 
          I DO RECOGNIZE THERE PALM BAY CHILDREN. I RECOGNIZE THAT SIDE,
BUT WHEN THEY'RE ON THAT PROPERTY, IT'S WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IN MIND. SO THAT'S MY STANCE. 
          IT WENT UP A LITTLE BIT IN REGARDS TO WHAT THEY PAID LAST YEAR,
BUT I FEEL LIKE THAT'S KIND OF LIKE A AN INCREMENTAL 3% INCREASE, NOT REALLY OF LIKE ANYTHING OF US NEGOTIATING,
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. 
          DEFINITELY WANTED TO HEAR FROM DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE BECAUSE HE WAS SPEAKING ON IT LAST YEAR
AND JUST THE REST OF THE COUNCIL AS WELL. 
          DEPUTY MAYOR. THANK YOU GENTLEMEN. SO LAST YEAR,
I BELIEVE WE HEARD THIS A LOT CLOSER TO THE BEGINNING OF THE OF THE SCHOOL YEAR, WHICH, YOU KNOW, DIDN'T LEAVE A LOT OF TIME FOR ANYBODY TO HAVE THE CONVERSATIONS WITH
SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS AND THEN OPENING OF THE SCHOOL YEAR WITH POTENTIAL OF NOT HAVING ANY, YOU KNOW, SROS IN PLACE. BUT I MADE IT PRETTY CLEAR IN THAT MEETING THAT WHEN THIS
CAME BACK AROUND AGAIN, I'D BE DENYING IT IF THE MONEY DIDN'T EQUATE TO WHAT IT ACTUALLY COSTS THE CITY TO SUPPLY
A FULL UNIFORM. 
          OFFICER. AND MR. MORTON, WHAT IS WHAT DOES THAT COST? THAT'S A NUANCED QUESTION, BUT THIS IS I'LL JUST SAY THIS FROM THE AVERAGE HOURS
CALCULATED ON ASSIGNMENT, THE PROPOSED REIMBURSEMENT IS PROBABLY ONLY AROUND 40% OF WHAT THE ACTUAL COST WOULD BE
FOR EACH OFFICER. 
          RIGHT. SO I UNDERSTAND YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE SOME RESPONSIBILITY AS A CITY TO PROVIDE
OUTREACH TO, TO THE SCHOOLS WITH AN OFFICER. AND I THINK THAT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. 
          I DON'T THINK THE, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S MORE VALUABLE THAN 40%. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, THE, THE STATE MANDATES THE SCHOOL BOARD SUPPLY AN SRO. 
          THEY SHOULD FIX THEIR BUDGET TO ACCOMMODATE A MUCH HIGHER REIMBURSEMENT BACK TO THE CITIES
AND COUNTIES THAT ARE SUPPLYING THESE SRO OFFICERS. 
          AND UNLESS THAT HAPPENS, I'M GOING TO BE A NO VOTE ON IT TONIGHT. 
          OKAY. YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT YOU GUYS BELIEVE TODAY. 
          I WILL SAY THIS. IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO,
TO PROTECT OUR CHILDREN THAT THAT'S THE FIRST THING. 
          THEN THE SECOND THING IS WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING REIMBURSED IS THE WAY I UNDERSTAND THIS. 
          WE HAVE THE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL, THEY'RE BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS. 
          AND I HAVE SEEN, AND I HAD A CONVERSATION RECENTLY. 
          AND IN THIS CONVERSATION, I REMEMBER THERE WAS AN OFFICER BY THE OFFICER EVANS THAT WAS A
HUGE RESOURCE AT BAYSIDE HIGH SCHOOL, AND THERE WERE A LOT OF INDIVIDUALS THAT KNEW HIM. 
          AND I'M TAKING THIS SOMEWHERE SO THAT EVERYONE CAN SEE THE VALUE OF IT'S NOT ONLY
PROTECTING OUR CHILDREN, IT'S ALSO PROVIDING A SERVICE. AND I OFTEN THINK BACK WHEN I WAS GROWING UP IN THE MIDST
OF, OF NEW YORK CITY IN, IN THE BRONX, AND I COULD RATTLE OFF INDIVIDUALS THAT INFLUENCE MY
LIFE. 
          AND THEY WERE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT. ONE IN PARTICULAR,
DETECTIVE RALPH WALKER HE GUIDED ME TOWARDS THE MARINE CORPS, GUIDED ME TOWARDS BUILDING A RELATIONSHIP WITH CERTAIN KIDS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          AND I BELIEVE BECAUSE OF HIM. ANGEL NIEVES AND,
AND LOUIE LUGO, THESE NAMES OF LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS STICK IN MY MIND, AND I BELIEVE THEY GUIDED ME ALONG WITH MY DAD. 
          BUT WHEN YOU'RE IN THE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHEN YOU'RE IN THE,
YOU KNOW, WHETHER YOU'RE IN SCHOOLS, YOU'RE BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS WITH THESE INDIVIDUALS. 
          AND, AND I BELIEVE THAT BREAKTHROUGH FOR ME WAS HUGE BECAUSE I PUT A,
A HUMAN ELEMENT TO A BADGE WHERE I DON'T THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE THAT LUXURY. 
          RIGHT. SO I THINK THAT CHANGED MY, MY LIFE. I'M,
I'M FOR WE'RE GETTING REIMBURSED, WHETHER IT'S 40, 50%, WE'RE GETTING REIMBURSED, WE'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE THE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS,
WE'RE STILL GOING TO BE ABLE TO BUILD RELATIONSHIPS, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE IN THOSE SCHOOLS. SO I,
I'M, I'M GOOD WITH THE REIMBURSEMENT VALUE TODAY. 
          I DO AGREE, PERHAPS WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS AND BRING THIS
UP. 
          MAYBE WE COULD HAVE A WORKSHOP TO BOTH YOUR ARGUMENTS INCREASING THAT RATE. 
          BUT IT'S STILL A LOT OF RESPONSIBILITY. AND THAT THAT'S HOW I FEEL. 
          I'VE GOT COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN THAT'S WEIGHING IN,
AND I ALSO HAVE COUNCILMAN HAMMER AFTER. 
          SURE. SO SO FIRST OFF, I, I AGREE A LOT WITH WHAT COUNCILMAN JAFFE AND COUNCILMAN. 
          JOHNSON HAD TO SAY. AND TO YOUR POINT ABOUT HAVING A CONVERSATION. 
          MAYOR. THE ONLY WAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION IS IF WE DENY IT TONIGHT
AND FORCE THE CONVERSATION. 
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IF WE KEEP SAYING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A CONVERSATION AND THEN WE BUT THEN WE APPROVE THE
CONTRACT, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR. AND NOW WE'RE BACK HERE TO APPROVE THE CONTRACT
AGAIN. 
          AND I DON'T THINK A CONVERSATION REALLY HAPPENED. 
          SO TO, TO THE POINTS TO ME, IT'S A, IT'S A PERSONNEL ISSUE BECAUSE WHAT WE HAVE IS WE HAVE
A POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT IS TRYING TO PATROL ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE LARGEST AND FASTEST GROWING CITIES IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. 
          THEIR PER CAPITA, ONE OF THE LOWEST STAFFED DEPARTMENTS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. 
          THEY DO A PHENOMENAL JOB FOR THEIR FOR THEIR STAFFING. 
          BUT WE HAVE I THINK IT'S FOR RESOURCE OFFICERS THAT ARE IN COUNTY SCHOOLS THAT COULD BE
OUT ON THE STREETS. 
          AND WE'VE DONE OUR JOB AS A COUNCIL AND SAID,
HEY, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU THE POSITIONS TO FILL. 
          IN FACT, WE'RE THEY WERE ONE OF THE ONLY DEPARTMENTS THAT WERE NOT CUTTING THEIR THEIR
OPEN VACANCIES. 
          BUT BECAUSE OF THE CALIBER OF PERSON THAT YOU NEED AS A POLICE OFFICER AND THE AMOUNT OF
TRAINING THAT GOES INTO BEING A POLICE OFFICER, ETC., THEY'RE STILL JUST NOT ABLE TO FILL ALL THE VACANCIES THAT WE GAVE THEM. 
          SO AT THE MOMENT, AND THEN WHEN I LOOK AT THE,
THE COUNTY AS A WHOLE, WE'RE A MAJOR PART OF THE COUNTY. 
          WE'RE THE LARGEST CITY IN THE COUNTY. WE'RE 150,000 RESIDENTS. 
          YOU KNOW, WE PAY COUNTY TAXES. WE HAVE TWO COUNTY COMMISSIONERS THAT REPRESENT OUR CITY. 
          WE HAVE TWO COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS THAT REPRESENT OUR CITY. YOU KNOW,
THE SHERIFF IS STILL ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE OF OUR CITY, BUT I SEE VERY LITTLE, YOU KNOW, SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES DRIVING AROUND IN THE STREETS OF PALM
BAY. 
          I DON'T SEE A VERY LARGE COUNTY PRESENCE IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY. 
          OUR OFFICERS DO A PRETTY GOOD JOB, AND THAT'S PART OF IT. 
          BUT THIS IS REALLY, IN MY OPINION, A COUNTY ASSET. 
          AND AND I'M ALSO DRAWING ON THIS FROM A FROM A PERSONAL EXPERIENCE BECAUSE MY DAD WAS A
CAREER LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER AND FOR ABOUT FIVE YEARS IN BETWEEN MILITARY LAW ENFORCEMENT AND FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT,
HE WAS A COUNTY DEPUTY FOR OKALOOSA COUNTY. 
          AND HE SPENT 2 TO 3 YEARS OF THAT AS A SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER. 
          AND IT WAS HIM AS THE COUNTY DEPUTY THAT WAS IN THE CITY SCHOOL. 
          AND SO I WENT AND VISITED HIM AND IN HIS SCHOOL,
AND I HAD THAT PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, BUT IT WAS THE COUNTY SCHOOLS. 
          AND SO THE COUNTY PROVIDED A RESOURCE OFFICER,
EVEN THOUGH THE CITY THAT THE SCHOOL WAS IN HAD A CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          SO TO ME, I BELIEVE THAT OUR CITY, WE JUST DON'T HAVE. 
          IT'S A PERSONNEL ISSUE. AND WE NEED EVERY SINGLE OFFICER RIGHT NOW OUT ON THE STREETS. 
          AND THERE'S NOT GOING TO NOT BE A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER AND A GUARDIAN IN THOSE SCHOOLS, BECAUSE THE COUNTY HAS TO PROVIDE THOSE RESOURCES IF WE'RE NOT WILLING TO DO IT OR BY
DENYING IT TONIGHT, AT A MINIMUM, WE CAN FORCE THE CONVERSATION AND GET A BETTER,
YOU KNOW, MAYBE NEGOTIATE A BETTER DEAL. 
          BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET ANY OF THAT IF WE DON'T DENY IT TONIGHT AND FORCE THE
CONVERSATION. 
          OKAY. COUNCILMAN HAMMER, MY FIRST QUESTION IS WHAT HAPPENS IF IT GETS DENIED TONIGHT? MR. MORTON, I THINK AS STATED ULTIMATELY, THE SCHOOL IS REQUIRED TO PROVIDE SECURITY. 
          AND MY UNDERSTANDING FROM CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD AND IS THAT THE BREVARD COUNTY SHERIFF
WILL WILL BE REQUIRED TO FILL THAT ROLE. 
          THERE IS A PROVISION FOR ARMED AND MAYBE OUR DEPUTY CHIEF KNOWS THE DISTINCTION. 
          I DON'T KNOW THAT IT NEEDS TO BE A DEPUTY, BUT I THINK THAT IS THE SCHOOL BOARD'S
PROCLIVITY AND PAST PRACTICES TO BRING EITHER DEPUTY OR UNIFORMED OFFICER. I THINK THEY DO HAVE AN OPTION FOR AN ARMED SECURITY OFFICER,
AND I'M NOT UP TO DATE ON THAT STATUTE, CANDIDLY, OF WHAT THOSE REQUIREMENTS ARE. I DID HAVE A QUESTION FOR DEPUTY CHIEF AS WELL. 
          OKAY. WELL, COME ON UP, DEPUTY CHIEF. GOOD EVENING. 
          DID I SAY DEPUTY CHIEF OR JUST DEPUTY CHIEF? FINE. 
          SO I UNDERSTAND HAVING AN OFFICER INSIDE OF OUR SCHOOL GIVES US AN INSIGHT INTO A
COMMUNITY THAT AS A PATROL OFFICER, YOU CANNOT GET. CORRECT. 
          THAT'S TRUE. WOULD YOU SAY HAVING A POLICE OFFICER INSIDE OF A HIGH SCHOOL,
IT GIVES YOU MORE OF AN INSIGHT TO PATTERNS OF KIDS WHEN THEY'RE COMING, WHEN THEY'RE THERE,
WHEN THEY'RE COMING OUT THEIR FUTURE. 
          WOULD YOU SAY THAT'S A VALUABLE THING TO HAVE HAVING IN THERE,
OTHER THAN HAVING THAT OFFICER PATROLLING THE STREETS. 
          YES, I WOULD, I WOULD SAY THAT IT'S DEFINITELY A IT'S AN IT'S AN ASSET TO HAVE IN OUR
SCHOOL SYSTEM. 
          WOULD YOU SAY HAVING THAT SRO IN THE SCHOOL HAS HELPED IN THE PAST TO IDENTIFY CRIMES OR
THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED OUTSIDE OF SCHOOL, BECAUSE THEY CAN IDENTIFY THE PERSON INVOLVED? YES, THAT'S THAT'S TRUE. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY AS A STUDENT THAT HAD AN SRO IN OUR SCHOOL, 
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THAT SRO ISN'T JUST SOMEBODY THAT'S IN THERE STANDING AROUND PROTECTING PEOPLE. 
          THIS THIS SRO IS SOMEBODY THAT IS THERE FOR KIDS TO GO TO IF SOMETHING'S HAPPENING AT
HOME. 
          THIS IS THIS IS THIS IS THIS IS SOMEONE THEY CAN GO TO. 
          OUTSIDE OF THEIR HOME. WHEN THEY GO TO SCHOOL,
THEY CAN SAY, THIS IS HAPPENING WHERE A LOT OF TIMES I KNOW 3 OR 4 THINGS THAT HAPPENED WITH STUDENTS WHEN I WAS IN SCHOOL, AND WE HAD OFFICER CHERYL,
AND SHE SAT DOWN WITH THESE WITH THESE LADIES AND HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM AND FIX THINGS IN THEIR LIVES. SO I'M GOING TO BE IN SUPPORT OF THIS,
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A LETTER WRITTEN SAYING, SAYING WE ARE THAT I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS OR WE'RE IN SUPPORT OF THIS WITH A DISCUSSION
HAPPENING. 
          AND NEXT YEAR IS NULL AND VOID. WE NEED TO GIVE THEM LET THEM KNOW HOW WE FEEL AND IT'S
NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN. 
          BUT WE NEED TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. I WOULD LIKE TO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THEM
IN THERE, IS WHAT I'M SAYING. AND I THINK THE SCHOOL BOARD,
THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, SHOULD KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH, THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH AND NEXT YEAR IT'S HAPPENING OR WE'RE NOT DOING IT. 
          BUT THAT'S MY IDEA BECAUSE I THINK THEY'RE IMPORTANT TO BE IN THERE. 
          AND I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE THEM IN THERE AND THAT'S IT. 
          WELL, THAT'S AN INTERESTING PERSPECTIVE. I THINK COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN WANTS TO. 
          YEAH. I HAD A QUESTION FOR THE DEPUTY CHIEF. HE'S UP HERE. 
          SO SO THE QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED OF YOU WAS,
DO YOU THINK IT'S YOU KNOW, PROVIDES LIKE AN ASSET FROM LIKE A CULTURAL AND INTELLIGENCE, YOU KNOW, POINT OF VIEW FROM HAVING ONE OF OUR OWN OFFICERS IN THESE SCHOOLS. 
          AND SO KIND OF MY QUESTION FOLLOW UP TO THAT IS WHAT,
WHAT IS THE PROCESS? OKAY, SO WE HAVE ONE RESOURCE OFFICER IN HIGH SCHOOL,
RIGHT? WHAT IS THE PROCESS THAT AS HE GETS TO KNOW THESE STUDENTS AND HE,
YOU KNOW, MIGHT UNDERSTAND, MIGHT THINK THAT LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOME CRIMINAL ASPECTS GOING ON OVER HERE,
OR THERE'S SOME STUFF HAPPENING IN THE SCHOOL THAT CAN BLEED OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY. 
          HOW IS THAT INFORMATION GETTING DELIVERED FROM THAT RESOURCE OFFICER OUT TO THE PATROL
OFFICERS IN THE STREETS. 
          IN OTHER WORDS, HOW DOES IT DIRECTLY HAVE THIS INTELLIGENCE EFFECT FROM THE SCHOOLS TO THE
COMMUNITY AND THE OFFICERS PATROLLING THE COMMUNITY? YEAH, SO GOOD QUESTION. SO WE HAVE, YOU KNOW,
OUR CRIME ANALYSTS AND THEY SPEAK TO A LOT OF OUR JUVENILE OFFICERS TO INCLUDE OUR SROS ON A DAILY BASIS. AND SO WHEN WE DO HAVE CRIMES IN THE CITY THAT DO OCCUR IN A GOOD CHUNK OF
THAT IS JUVENILE BASED. 
          SO WHEN THOSE THINGS DO OCCUR, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OUR SROS THAT IDENTIFY,
HEAR PEOPLE TALKING, WE DO, WE DO HAVE A SOURCE OF INTELLIGENCE, YOU KNOW,
FROM WITHIN THE, THE SCHOOL FROM BASED UPON THE SRO. 
          AND IT DOES TRICKLE ITS WAY TO OUR ANALYSTS AND THEN ULTIMATELY DOWN,
DOWN THE CHAIN TO OUR PATROL OFFICERS. 
          SO IF YOU HAD COUNTY DEPUTIES IN THOSE POSITIONS WOULD YOU STILL FOLLOW THE SAME PROCESS
WITH THE CRIME ANALYSTS? SO I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO, TO,
TO FOLLOW SUIT, RIGHT? WE WANT THE INTELLIGENCE REGARDLESS IF IT'S GOING TO BE,
YOU KNOW, A PALM BAY OFFICER OR. 
          OR A DEPUTY. RIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE. THANK YOU. MAYOR. AND, YOU KNOW,
I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT COUNCILMAN HAMER MENTIONED. 
          I JUST I THINK TIME IS ON OUR SIDE FOR ONCE,
FOR THESE NEGOTIATIONS. 
          LAST YEAR, I BELIEVE WE VOTED ON THIS, LIKE END OF JULY. 
          RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN APRIL. SO I THINK A FIRM DENIAL TONIGHT WOULD ALLOW THESE CONVERSATIONS
TO STILL FIND A RESOLUTION BEFORE THE NEXT SCHOOL YEAR STARTS IN AUGUST. 
          THE SECOND COMMENT. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          SO I GUESS THIS QUESTION MAY BE FOR THE COUNCIL AND FOR MR. MORTON AND MISS SMITH. WOULD WE BE ABLE TO TABLE THIS FOR A LATER DISCUSSION SO THAT WE
CAN SPEAK WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD OR BECAUSE I'M WITH YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE. LIKE THERE'S OUR BREVARD PUBLIC SCHOOLS GETS
PROBABLY THE BIGGEST CHUNK OUT OF PROPERTY TAXES FROM EVERYBODY. 
          SO I'M, WE'RE LIKE, I'M. AND I'M WITH YOU. COUNCILMAN HAMMER LIKE WE'VE SEEN OUR SROS DO
AMAZING THINGS AND BUILD RELATIONSHIPS AND HELP OUT THE LEVANTER BROTHERS WITH EVERYTHING THEY DO. SO I UNDERSTAND THAT SIDE AS WELL. BUT IT'S JUST ABOUT LIKE,
I FEEL LIKE IT'S DOUBLE DIPPING ON THEIR END AND I'LL TELL THEM, I'LL TELL THAT TO WHOEVER, BUT I'M WITH YOU DEFINITELY. 
          MAYOR JAFFE SO THAT'S WHERE MY TAKE IS, IS IT BEST TO JUST TABLE IT SO. 
          COUNCILMAN. LANGEVIN YEAH, SO MY RESPONSE TO COUNCILMAN. 
          JOHNSON ON THE TABLING IS IN MY OPINION, WE SHOULD BE. 
          AND TO DEPUTY MAYOR'S POINT, WE DENY IT TONIGHT. 
          AND THEN THAT FORCES THE CONVERSATION. SO NOW THE COUNTY HAS TO RESPOND TO US. 
          AND THEN WE'RE EARLY ENOUGH IN THE CONVERSATION WHERE IF THEY COME BACK WITH AND WANT TO
HAVE A CONVERSATION AND WE'RE AND WE'RE GOOD WITH THAT CONVERSATION, 
          [03:20:01]
WE CAN BRING THIS BACK UP BEFORE THE SCHOOL YEAR STARTS. 
          MR. MORTON, I'M SORRY. I WAS JUST TRYING TO ANSWER COUNCILMAN JOHNSON'S QUESTION. 
          THE THE TEXT OF THE MOU SAYS IRRESPECTIVE OF WHEN SIGNED,
IT WILL BE MADE EFFECTIVE THE FIRST DAY OF JULY 2026. 
          SO IT APPEARS THAT THAT WOULD BE THE INTENDED TO DEPUTY MAYOR'S POINT START DATE WOULD BE
IN JULY. 
          SO IT LOOKS LIKE THERE IS TIME BETWEEN SIGNATURE AND EFFECTIVE DATE. 
          YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE COULD BE HERE ALL NIGHT. THE VERY FIRST THING YOU PULLED THE ITEM, SIR. YES, SIR. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO DENY? OR DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE? WHAT? YOU YOU HAVE CONTROL AT THIS POINT. GOSH. I'M HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION. 
          HE JUST HE JUST PULLED. C PARDON. I APOLOGIZE,
MAYOR. 
          I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK STRATEGICALLY ON THIS. 
          WELL, YOU PULLED IT AND THEN YOU THREW OUT THE TABLE. 
          YEAH, YEAH, I'M ASKING BECAUSE MY BECAUSE MY CONCERN IS SAY WE DO DENY IT. 
          THEN THEY'RE LIKE, ALL RIGHT. CALL UP IVY AND THEY JUST MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. 
          SO THERE IS NO NEGOTIATION. THAT'S SO THAT'S MY THAT'S MY CONCERN WITH THAT SCENARIO. 
          BUT IF WE TABLE IT, THEN WE CAN AT LEAST SAY,
HEY, THIS IS THE OPTION WE'RE WEIGHING. 
          SO. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. WELL, WE GOTTA GET WE GOTTA GET WITH IT. 
          WE GOTTA WORK QUICK, SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS TO THE SECOND MEETING OF MAY TO
HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COUNTY WITH BREVARD PUBLIC SCHOOLS. ANY SECOND. 
          I'LL SECOND IT. OKAY. SO I'M GOING TO CALL THAT QUESTION. 
          GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON AND THIS IS FOR ITEM TWO. 
          YES, SIR. AND THREE TOGETHER. WE HAVE TO DO SEPARATELY. 
          SEPARATELY. YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. DEPUTY MAYOR, FOR DISCUSSION. 
          WHO'S CALLING THE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS AND DOING ALL THIS LIFTING? YOU ARE. I WOULD I WOULD IMAGINE IT'S THE CITY MANAGER. 
          WELL, YOU GOT TOLD SIR RON AND TOLD I'M GOING TO SAY NO TO THE VOTE. 
          SO THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. SO MR. MORTON,
MY REQUEST WAS ANSWERED. 
          YOU KNOW, STAFF DID ENTER IT VERY LATE. THE DISCUSSIONS AND WE WERE TOLD THERE WAS NO
DISCUSSION. 
          SO WE, I WAS GOING TO ASK FOR A COUNCIL MEMBER TO BE ASSIGNED. I THINK THAT IS WHAT WE
NEED AND MORE APPROPRIATE THAN JUST STAFF. OKAY. SO THANK YOU FOR ASKING. 
          DID YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT QUESTION, SIR? IF NOBODY WANTS IT,
I'LL DO IT. 
          CAN I ASK ONE QUESTION? OKAY. YES. GO AHEAD. COUNCILMAN HAMMER,
JUST ONE SAY THERE IS AN INCIDENT OUT OF SCHOOL. 
          DOES BCSO HANDLE THAT OR DOES PALM BAY PD COME AND HANDLE IT? PALM BAY POLICE DEPARTMENT HANDLES IT PALM BAY ALL DAY. 
          IT'S JUST. I MEAN, IT DEPENDS ON THE SCHOOL. IF OUR SROS ARE STAFFED,
OUR SORROWS. 
          SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME TO IT NO MATTER WHAT. SO I'LL HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK ON THAT
ANSWER BECAUSE IT ELUDES ME RIGHT NOW. 
          BUT THERE IS A FELONY AND MISDEMEANOR INVESTIGATION,
AND I'LL HAVE TO. 
          I CAN GET THAT ANSWER AND GET AND GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT ONE. OKAY. 
          AND THANK YOU. WE WE DO OUR FELONY INVESTIGATIONS. 
          THANK YOU. YES. SO THERE WAS A DEPUTY INVOLVED. 
          OKAY. COME ON. COME ON UP, COMMANDER. SORRY. JUST TO CLARIFY THAT QUESTION,
IF THERE'S A FELONY THAT WAS IN THE SCHOOL, PALM BAY PD WOULD DO IT. IF BREVARD IF IT WAS A MISDEMEANOR,
THEN A DEPUTY WOULD BE ABLE TO HANDLE IT, BUT MOSTLY WOULD BE PALM BAY. THANK YOU MA'AM. 
          OKAY. SO RIGHT NOW WE GOT A MOTION TO TABLE BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON,
SECONDED BY MAYOR MEDINA. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSE SIGNIFY BY SAYING NAY. 
          NAY NAY. OKAY. SOUNDS LIKE IT PASSED 3 TO 2. SO I'M GOING TO ROLL CALL,
PLEASE. 
          YES. ONE SECOND. COUNCILMAN. HAMMER. COUNCILMAN. 
          HAMMER. COUNCILMAN. LANGEVIN. NAY. MAYOR MEDINA. 
          AYE. DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE NAY. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. 
          AYE. SO THAT PASSED THREE TO THE TABLE AND YOU'RE TAKING THE LEAD. 
          I WILL BE CALLING JOHN THOMAS AND KATIE CAMPBELL TOMORROW. 
          OKAY. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO DO THE SAME THING FOR ITEM NUMBER THREE. 
          I MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE TO THE SECOND MEETING. 
          YEAH. I MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE IT TO THE SECOND MEETING OF MAY. OKAY I SECOND IT. 
          MOTION BY COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON SECONDED BY MAYOR. 
          MEDINA. ALL IN FAVOR. SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. 
          ALL OPPOSED. SIGNIFY BY SAYING NAY. NAY. PASSES 3 TO 2. 
          ROLL CALL. JUST IN CASE. MAYOR. MEDINA. AYE. DEPUTY MAYOR. 
          JAFFE NÉ COUNCILMAN JOHNSON A COUNCILMAN HAMMER A COUNCILMAN NÉ. 
          [03:25:07]
OKAY, PASSES 3 TO 2. WE'RE NOW ON UNFINISHED BUSINESS. 
          [UNFINISHED AND OLD BUSINESS:]
DEPUTY MAYOR ARE THERE ANY APPLICANTS IN THE OR AUDIENCE FOR THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY
BOARD? ARE THERE ANY APPLICANTS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISH TO SPEAK? YES. 
          ANY APPLICANTS THAT WISH TO SPEAK? STEP RIGHT UP,
SIR. 
          YOU AS WELL, SIR. DID YOU RAISE YOUR HAND? OKAY. 
          YOU'LL GO RIGHT AFTER HIM? NO, SIR. EXCUSE ME. 
          YOU WERE ALREADY TOLD. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN,
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          AS A RESIDENT OF PALM BAY, AS YOU KNOW, MAYOR MEDINA,
AS WE'VE PREVIOUSLY SPOKEN, WHEN MY WIFE AND I DECIDED TO MOVE OUT OF TALLAHASSEE. 
          WE WANT TO SHARE YOUR NAME. SORRY. LUIS VALDEZ. 
          OKAY. WE COULD HAVE CHOSEN ANYWHERE TO LIVE. WE CHOSE TO LIVE IN PALM BAY. 
          WE VIEW THAT THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS OF GRAVE IMPORTANCE TO THE CITY,
BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ATTRACTED US TO THIS TOWN IS THE GREEN SPACES. IT'S THE OPEN AREAS, IT'S THE PUBLIC PARKS. 
          IT'S THE FACT THAT IT'S BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAD IN SOUTH FLORIDA. 
          IT'S BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAD IN THE PANHANDLE. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT CONTINUES
FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS. 
          THE THE GREATEST THING THAT I COULD DO AS A PARENT IS TO PLANT A SEED,
KNOWING THAT I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SIT UNDER ITS SHADE AND ENJOY ITS FRUIT, BUT THAT FUTURE GENERATIONS WILL. AND THAT MY OWN DAUGHTER WILL. 
          ONE OF THE REASONS THAT I APPLIED FOR THIS POSITION IS VERY SIMPLE. 
          THAT I WANT TO GET INVOLVED IN THIS COMMUNITY. THIS COMMUNITY HAS PROVIDED A LOT TO ME. 
          THIS COMMUNITY HAS PROVIDED A LOT TO MY WIFE,
TO MY, OUR DAUGHTER, AND WE WANT TO GIVE BACK TO IT. 
          WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE ADVICE. WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE GUIDANCE. 
          WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE OUR VOICE AND SPEAK FOR OTHERS IN THIS COMMUNITY,
BUT DO SO IN A RESPECTFUL AND RESPONSIBLE MANNER. 
          MAKE SURE THAT WHEN THINGS ARE PROPOSED, THAT IT'S DONE IN A WAY THAT'S RESPONSIBLE BOTH
TO THE RESIDENTS AND THE TAXPAYERS, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T DO STUPID THINGS LIKE SPEND UNSUSTAINABLE AMOUNTS OF MONEY ON
WIND FARMS OR THINGS OF THAT SORT. 
          YOU KNOW, THAT WE DO IT IN A RESPONSIBLE, RESPECTFUL MANNER. 
          THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I APPLIED. MY WIFE ALSO APPLIED,
BUT I JUST HAD TO TAKE HER BACK HOME. 
          OUR LITTLE ONE IS NOT FEELING WELL AT THE MOMENT. HER NAME IS ELIZABETH VALDEZ. SO TAKING
IT FOR BOTH OF US. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, THIS COMMUNITY MEANS A LOT TO US. 
          WE WE WANT TO CONTRIBUTE. WE WANT TO DO OUR PART. 
          SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. I'LL BE BRIEF. 
          MR. MAYOR, HONORED COUNCIL MEMBERS, MY NAME IS JOHN PINERO. 
          I LIVE IN SOUTHEAST PALM BAY. AS I MENTIONED IN THE APPLICATION,
I'M SEEKING TO SERVE ON THE BOARD BECAUSE OF MY DEEP ROOTED CONNECTION TO FLORIDA. 
          MY PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE AND MY COMMITMENT TO HELPING SHAPE A SUSTAINABLE FUTURE FOR
PALM BAY. 
          AS A NATIVE FLORIDIAN, MY APPRECIATION FOR OUR STATE'S UNIQUE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT IS BOTH
PERSONAL AND ENDURING. 
          I'VE SEEN FIRSTHAND HOW GROWTH, DEVELOPMENT,
AND ENVIRONMENTAL PRESSURES CAN BOTH STRENGTHEN AND CHALLENGE OUR COMMUNITIES. 
          AND I CARE DEEPLY ABOUT GETTING THAT BALANCE RIGHT. 
          AS THE LARGEST CITY IN BREVARD COUNTY, PALM BAY HAS A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY AND A
RESPONSIBILITY TO LEAD. 
          AND I BELIEVE THAT WE ARE IN A POSITION TO SET STANDARDS FOR A THOUGHTFUL GROWTH,
ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP, AND LONG TERM SUSTAINABILITY NOT JUST WITHIN THE COUNTY,
BUT ACROSS THE STATE OF FLORIDA. 
          MY ACADEMIC BACKGROUND IS IN IN HISTORY, AND THAT HAS SHAPED HOW I THINK ABOUT DECISION
MAKING. 
          UNDERSTANDING THE CHOICES THAT WE MAKE TODAY WILL DEFINE THE KIND OF COMMUNITY THAT WE
LEAVE BEHIND. 
          SUSTAINABILITY, TO ME, IS NOT JUST ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT,
IT'S ABOUT LONG TERM RESPONSIBILITY, SMART PLANNING, AND ENSURING RESILIENCE FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS. 
          PROFESSIONALLY, I HAVE OVER 20 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE LEADING FINANCIAL AND CUSTOMER SERVICE
ORGANIZATIONS, AND MY WORK HAS CENTERED AROUND STRATEGIC PLANNING,
OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCY, AND MAKING DATA DRIVEN DECISIONS THAT PRODUCE MEASURABLE RESULTS. 
          I'M COMFORTABLE WORKING THROUGH COMPLEX CHALLENGES,
ALIGNING DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES, AND HELPING TO TURN IDEAS INTO ACTIONABLE, COST EFFECTIVE SOLUTIONS. I'M ESPECIALLY INTERESTED IN CONTRIBUTING TO THE DEVELOPMENT AND
IMPLEMENTATION OF A SUSTAINABILITY PLAN THAT IS BOTH AMBITIOUS AND PRACTICAL, ONE THAT ADVANCES CONSERVATION, RENEWABLE ENERGY,
AND EFFICIENCY WHILE REMAINING MINDFUL OF BUDGET AND COMMUNITY IMPACT. 
          I ALSO VALUE THE BOARD'S ROLE IN REVIEWING POLICIES AND ORDINANCES,
BECAUSE THOUGHTFUL GOVERNANCE IS ESSENTIAL TO ACHIEVING MEANINGFUL, LASTING PROGRESS. ON A PERSONAL LEVEL, I HAVE A YOUNG SON AND THAT FURTHER STRENGTHENS MY
DESIRE TO SERVE. 
          I WANT TO BE PART OF MOLDING PALM BAY, TO CONTINUE MOVING TOWARD BEING A BEACON FOR THE
COUNTY AND THE STATE, A PLACE WHERE RESPONSIBLE GROWTH, ENVIRONMENTAL CARE AND COMMUNITY WELL-BEING ALL COME
TOGETHER. 
          I WANT TO BE A PART OF ADDRESSING MANY OF THE CHALLENGES THAT THE CITY CURRENTLY FACES AND
WILL FACE IN THE FUTURE, FROM ENVIRONMENTAL PRESSURES TO GROWTH AND INFRASTRUCTURE DEMANDS. I BELIEVE I CAN BRING
BALANCED, 
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PRAGMATIC PERSPECTIVE TO THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND ONE THAT SUPPORTS INNOVATION,
ACCOUNTABILITY, AND MEASURABLE OUTCOMES. ULTIMATELY, MY GOAL IS SIMPLE TO CONTRIBUTE IN A MEANINGFUL WAY
AND TO HELP ENSURE THAT PALM BAY CONTINUES TO GROW IN A WAY THAT IS SUSTAINABLE, RESILIENT, AND BENEFICIAL FOR ALL WHO CALL IT HOME. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU. 
          YES, SIR. ONE SPEAKER CARD. DOUG HOOK. HE'S ON THE BOARD. 
          I CAN STILL TALK ABOUT IT, THOUGH, RIGHT? DOUG HOOK,
OUR SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, MY PHONE DIDN'T MAKE IT THROUGH TONIGHT'S MEETING,
SO I JUST KIND OF HAVE TO SPITBALL WHAT I WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT. I WANTED TO THANK ALL THE APPLICANTS. I DID SEE THAT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT. 
          WE HAD TEN APPLICANTS TOWARD THE FOR THE TWO AT LARGE POSITIONS. 
          I THINK THAT'S FANTASTIC. I WANT TO THANK THE COMMUNITY FOR THEIR SUPPORT AND INVOLVEMENT
IN THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD AND WANTING TO BE INVOLVED IN IT. 
          I WANTED TO SAY TO THOSE APPLICANTS AND ANYBODY ELSE THAT IS LISTENING OUT THERE TONIGHT,
ALTHOUGH WE ARE ONLY GOING TO BE APPOINTING TWO AT LARGE POSITIONS TONIGHT AND HOPEFULLY A COUPLE MORE POSITIONS I STILL WANT YOU ALL TO BE INVOLVED IN THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY
BOARD. 
          THERE MAY ONLY BE SEVEN VOICES AT MAX ON THE BOARD,
BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF VOICES IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY THAT WANT TO BE HEARD. 
          AND THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD IS ALWAYS WILLING TO LISTEN TO ANYONE WHO WANTS TO
PARTICIPATE WITH US. 
          OUR NEXT MEETING IS GOING TO BE NEXT WEDNESDAY ON EARTH DAY AT 6 P.M. 
          HERE IN THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS. IF ANYBODY IS INTERESTED IN PARTICIPATING,
THIS IS A GREAT STARTING POINT FOR THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF TURNOVER ON THERE. WE'RE GOING TO BE BRINGING IN SOME NEW MEMBERS. WE'RE
ACTUALLY GOING TO BE USING THIS AS KIND OF A RESET SITUATION WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK OVER WHAT THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD HAS BEEN FOCUSED ON OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS. 
          SO IT IS A GREAT STARTING POINT FOR ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO GET INVOLVED WITH THE BOARD,
EVEN IF IT'S AS A CITIZEN LEVEL AND NOT NECESSARILY A BOARD MEMBER TO GET INVOLVED AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IS THAT OKAY? I NEED A MOTION AND I'LL NEED TWO SEPARATE
MOTIONS. 
          DEPUTY MAYOR. YES. I JUST WANT TO GET SOME CLARITY FOR,
LIKE, MOVING FORWARD. 
          YOU KNOW, WE DO A RANKING SHEET BEFORE THE MEETING STARTS,
AND THEN WE ALLOW THESE FOLKS TO COME AND SPEAK. 
          IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME. RIGHT. SO AND THAT BEING SAID,
HOWEVER, THE VOTE ENDS UP GOING TONIGHT. 
          I BELIEVE 1 OR 2 COUNCIL MEMBERS MAY ACTUALLY HAVE AN AVAILABILITY TO APPOINT THIS
POSITION TONIGHT. 
          SO I JUST, YOU KNOW, ENCOURAGE IF THOSE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE AN OPEN SEAT MAYBE IF THESE
TWO GENTLEMEN AREN'T THE GO AHEAD. 
          MAYOR. COUNCILMAN. YEAH, TO THAT. TO THAT POINT,
CAN WE, IF WE HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS, WHERE WE'RE GOING TO DO A RANK VOTING, COULD WE HAVE A SECTION EARLIER IN THE MEETING WHERE WE HAVE AN INTERVIEW PROCESS? AND THEN WHEN WE GET TO THIS POINT, WE'LL HAVE OUR SHEETS TURNED IN BY THAT POINT. THAT
PROBABLY MAKES THE MOST SENSE, BUT I WAS WONDERING IF WE COULD SQUEEZE THAT IN EARLIER IN THE MEETING. YEAH. MADAM CLERK ABSOLUTELY. WE WOULD JUST HAVE TO MODIFY COUNCIL'S POLICIES
AS FAR AS THE ORDER OF BUSINESS. 
          OKAY. I THINK YOU GOT CONSENSUS ON THAT. DEFINITELY. 
          OKAY. SO, SO CARRY ON. SO MAYOR, BASED ON THE RANKING SHEET PROVIDED BY COUNCIL AS A
WHOLE, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE REPORT APPOINT REBECCA ZEIGLER TO THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY
BOARD. 
          OKAY. I GOT A MOTION. I NEED A SECOND. SECOND. 
          I'LL SECOND IT. I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE,
SECONDED BY MAYOR MEDINA FOR REBECCA ZIEGLER. 
          DID YOU SAY? YES, SIR. ALL IN FAVOR? SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. 
          AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NAY. PASSES. WHAT WAS YOUR VOTE,
SIR? PASSES FOUR ONE. NEXT ONE, SIR. I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPOINT KRISTEN LANSANA TO THE
SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD. I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE. 
          SECOND. SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. ALL IN FAVOR? SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? SAY NAY. 
          PASSES FIVE ZERO. AND WHILE I'M AT IT, I'M GOING TO APPOINT A YOUNG MAN THAT I HAD THE
HONOR AND PLEASURE WORKING WITH AT CONGRESSMAN BILL POSEY'S OFFICE. HE WAS A INTERN FOR US. 
          SO I'M APPOINTING MARVIN TO DOOR TO THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD. 
          CAN I DO THIS NOW INSTEAD OF WAITING TILL REPORTS,
MA'AM? ABSOLUTELY. OKAY, SO HE'S APPOINTED MARVIN TEDDER. 
          THANK YOU FOR FOR WILLING TO TAKE THIS ON, SIR. 
          OKAY, SO WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER. NEW BUSINESS NUMBER ONE,
MR. 
          [NEW BUSINESS:]
MORTON. THANK YOU AGAIN, HONORABLE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL,
I'M GOING TO ASK MISS CARTER TO COME UP AND PRESENT THIS ITEM FOR CONTINGENCY 
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FOR A PROJECT THAT DATES BACK TO 2004 FOR THE SHIP PROGRAM. 
          THIS IS A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF A 6% CONTINGENCY BUDGET FOR THE DEMOLITION AND
RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT. 
          THAT WAS THE HOUSE THAT I SHOWED YOU ALL. IT'S 90% COMPLETE. 
          AND NO MONEY IS EVER SET UP IN THE BUDGET FOR CONTINGENCY. 
          SO WE'RE COMING BACK TO YOU ASKING FOR A MOTION. 
          OKAY TO APPROVE 6% CONTINGENCY, WHICH WOULD BE 18,005,
3934. 
          THAT WILL BE USED TO COVER CHANGE ORDERS ONE AND TWO AND ADDITIONAL AND ANY ADDITIONAL
CHANGE ORDERS THAT ARE UNFORESEEN AND ISSUES RELATED TO THE DEMOLITION RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY SPEAKER CARDS? ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL. NO QUESTIONS. ANY SPEAKER CARDS? DEPUTY MAYOR? NO. MAYOR. OKAY. I NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED. 
          GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON SECOND. I GOT A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN HAMMER. 
          ANY DISCUSSION? GENTLEMEN, DO YOU REALLY SEE? DO YOU REALLY SEE THIS MUCH BEING NEEDED OR IS JUST. 
          WELL, I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO COME BACK AGAIN. UNDERSTOOD. 
          SO. BUT BECAUSE THERE WAS NEVER ANY CONTINGENCY WE HAD TO COME. 
          IT WASN'T A PERFECT PROJECT. AND IT'S AND IT'S FOR STUFF THAT'S REALLY NEEDED. 
          LIKE THAT HOUSE DOESN'T SIT ON THE SAME PART OF THE PROPERTY ANYMORE. 
          SO NOW SOME TREES JUST NEEDS TO BE CUT. NEED TO BE CUT. 
          OKAY. AND THESE ARE FOR GUTTERS AND SHUTTERS GUTTERS AND I THINK IT WAS GUTTERS AND
DOWNSPOUTS. 
          TO, TO HELP WITH THE FOUNDATION, NOT, YOU KNOW,
HAVE THE WATER RUN, RUN AWAY FROM THE HOUSE. 
          SO, DEPUTY MAYOR, THANK YOU. MAYOR. HOW LONG,
HOW LONG HAVE THEY BEEN ASKING FOR A CHANGE? ORDER NUMBER ONE. BECAUSE ASBESTOS ABATEMENT HAPPENS BEFORE YOU EVEN REALLY DEMOLISH THE
HOUSE. 
          OR YOU SAID THE HOME IS 90% COMPLETE. SO YOU'RE RIGHT. 
          AND THIS IS OUR FIRST PROJECT. SO WE DID NOT. 
          WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY. WE DIDN'T HAVE. AND THIS WASN'T THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS SET UP
UNDER SOME PREVIOUS STAFF, THE BUDGET. BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YES,
IT WAS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PROJECT. 
          AND THEN CHANGE ORDER TO GUTTERS SEEMS MORE OF A WANT THAN A NEED. 
          SO I MEAN, I'M NOT, I'M NOT SUPPORTING THIS TONIGHT. I JUST,
YOU KNOW, THE, THE ASBESTOS ABATEMENT TYPICALLY WHEN YOU A HOUSE AT THAT AGE, THE CONTRACTOR SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT ASBESTOS WAS IN THAT HOME AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN
REMOVED BEFORE, YOU KNOW, THEY SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN THEIR BID. SO THE
FACT THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR IT NOW DOESN'T, DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME. I KNOW YOU'RE NOT. 
          THIS WAS PASSED ON TO YOU. SO I'M NOT BLAMING YOU IN ANY WAY. 
          AND THEN AGAIN, THE GUTTERS ARE ARE MORE OF A WANT,
NOT A NEED, UNLESS THERE'S A SEPTIC SYSTEM AND THE GUTTERS HAVE TO GO ALONG. 
          IF THERE'S A SEPTIC SYSTEM ON THAT SIDE OF THE HOUSE. SO,
YOU KNOW, FOR THAT REASON, I'M GOING TO BE DENYING THIS, THIS PROJECT, I'D BE OPEN TO CONSIDERATION TO DOING A PARTIAL APPROVAL,
BUT NOT THE 4000 103,600. 
          OKAY. OKAY. SO I GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR,
SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. 
          AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED SIGNIFY BY SAYING NAY. NAY. 
          SO ROLL CALL. DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE NAY. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON AYE. 
          COUNCILMAN HAMER. NAY. COUNCILMAN. NAY. MAYOR. 
          MEDINA. MAYOR. MEDINA. AYE. SO MOTION FAILS 3 TO 2. 
          OKAY. SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO DENY CHANGE ORDER ONE AND APPROVE CHANGE ORDER TWO ONLY FOR
THE TREE TRIMMING. 
          I'LL SECOND. SO HOW ARE WE GOING TO PAY FOR IT. 
          THE CONTRACTOR DID THE WORK AT RISK. OKAY. SO I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE,
SECONDED BY MAYOR MEDINA. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? SIGNIFY BY SAYING NAY. NAY. ALL RIGHT. ROLL CALL. 
          COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. AYE. COUNCILMAN HAMER. AYE. 
          COUNCILMAN. LANGEVIN. NAY. MAYOR MEDINA. AYE. 
          DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE. AYE. ALL RIGHT. PASSES FOUR ONE. 
          WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER TWO. SO HOW MUCH WAS APPROVED? 
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3600. 3600. OKAY. THANK YOU. NUMBER. ITEM NUMBER TWO,
MR. MORTON. THANK YOU, HONORABLE CITY COUNCIL, FOR THE SAKE OF EXPEDIENCY AND CLARITY,
JASON DILORENZO WILL PRESENT. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL. 
          JASON DILORENZO, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER. THIS ITEM IS RELATED TO FUTURE DRAINAGE OF THE SAINT
JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY. IN THE PROJECT KNOWN AS EMERALD LAKES BACK IN 2016,
THE CITY ENTERED INTO A DRAINAGE EASEMENT AGREEMENT THAT SET ASIDE POND AND EASEMENT LOCATIONS TO ENSURE THAT THE PARKWAY HAD THE
DRAINAGE THAT IT NEEDED. 
          THAT AGREEMENT ALSO CONTEMPLATED THAT IN THE FUTURE,
THOSE PONDS AND EASEMENTS COULD GET MOVED AROUND. 
          AND THIS AMENDMENT DOES THAT. IT TAKES TWO OF THE PONDS AND ELIMINATES THEM ALL TOGETHER. 
          THE THE MASTER STORMWATER PLAN FOR THE PROJECT ITSELF IS GOING TO TAKE ON THE RETENTION
REQUIREMENTS OF THE ROAD, AND THE LAND IS GOING TO BE RETURNED BACK TO THE DEVELOPER. 
          IN EXCHANGE FOR THAT, THEY'RE GOING TO THEIR CREDITS. 
          THEIR TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEE CREDITS ARE GOING TO BE REDUCED BY 64,000 $67,548. 
          SO INITIALLY, THEY RECEIVED TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEE CREDITS FOR THE LAND THEY GAVE UP
FOR THE PONDS. 
          NOW THEY WANT THEY'RE ASKING TO ELIMINATE THE PONDS. 
          THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE ON THAT WATER. SO THEY'RE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR THOSE CREDITS ANYMORE. 
          SO THEIR CREDITS ARE GOING TO BE REDUCED BY 67,000. 
          THEY'RE ALSO GOING TO ORIGINALLY WE HAD TO MAINTAIN THE PONDS. 
          NOW WE WILL NO LONGER HAVE TO BECAUSE THEY'LL BE PART OF THEIR DRAINAGE SYSTEM. 
          AND YOU KNOW, THE PRIMARY EFFECT OF THIS IS THAT THE THERE'S AN INCREASE IN THE BUILDABLE UPLANDS ALONG THE PARKWAY. INSTEAD OF PONDS TAKING UP VALUABLE LAND,
WE'LL NOW HAVE WHATEVER THE PROJECT BRINGS FORWARD FOR THOSE AREAS. THE OWNER'S REPRESENTATIVE HAS WAITED PATIENTLY HERE ALL NIGHT IF YOU HAVE
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. 
          BUT THAT'S THE AMENDMENT TO THE AGREEMENT IN A NUTSHELL. 
          WELL, SINCE HE'S WAITED ALL NIGHT, SHOULDN'T HE COME UP AND SPEAK? SHE. SHE MAY KIM BEFORE HE GOES. BEFORE HE HAD A QUESTION. 
          BEFORE. OH, AS YOU WERE. YES, SIR. SO IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY,
THOSE WERE THOSE WERE MADE AS TEMPORARILY. 
          BUT THEY GO TO COMMERCIAL NOW, CORRECT? I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT,
SIR. 
          MAYBE IF I CAN ANSWER, I DON'T KNOW IF WE. MINE WAS JUST LIKE SPECULATION BACK,
BACK WHEN WE WERE MAKING THEM. 
          IT WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF WE MOVE THEM, IT'S FOR COMMERCIAL. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO FIND OUT ABOUT THAT BECAUSE LIKE I SAID,
IT WAS SPECULATION, BUT THESE ARE DIRECTLY ON THE PARKWAY. 
          YEAH, I KNOW VALUABLE PARCELS. I JUST DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A SITE PLAN THAT SHOWS THAT
OR NOT. 
          YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS WONDERING ABOUT BECAUSE. 
          YEAH. GOOD EVENING KIM. WITH LACEY HERE ON BEHALF OF MELROSE PROPERTIES AND LENNAR THERE'S
AN EAST AND WEST SECTION OF EMERALD LAKES. THIS IS THE WEST SECTION, WHICH IS RESIDENTIAL. 
          THIS WILL BE COMING BACK TO YOU FROM PAUL PELOSI FOR THE EAST SECTION FOR THE COMMERCIAL. 
          SO THIS IS THIS IS PART OF THE FINAL STEP. WE NEED TO GET A FINAL PLAT FOR 244 HOMES TO
START BUILDING ON THE PARKWAY. 
          I HAVE A DIAGRAM IF YOU WANT IT OR IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. 
          BUT THIS WAS CONTEMPLATED BACK IN 2016. THIS WAS AN AMENDMENT TO ACTUALLY THE MASTER
DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FROM 2000 2021. THERE'S MANY, MANY DOCUMENTS. SO THE IDEA IS IT WAS CONTEMPLATED THESE WOULD BE
RELOCATED IN 2016 AND AGAIN IN 2021. THESE ARE FOR HOMES ON THE WEST SIDE. 
          BUT YOU'LL BE SEEING THIS SAME THING COMING UP FOR MR. PELOSI, FOR THE COMMERCIAL ON THE EAST SIDE. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL. DEPUTY MAYOR. NO. JUST ONE CARD FROM MR. BATTEN. 
          BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST. 
          I HAD TWO QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE. THE FIRST ONE SINCE WE SHOT DOWN LOTUS PALM AND THE
CONNECTION OF THE SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY. 
          A LOT OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS WAS IN THERE WAS BASED ON ALL OF THESE SEPARATE
IDENTITIES WORKING TOGETHER. 
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THAT'S WHAT THE CONCEPT WAS OF OF THAT SOUTHWEST SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY. 
          WELL, SINCE SAINT LOTUS, PALM HAS BEEN SHOT DOWN. 
          ARE WE STILL GOING TO SEE THE DEVELOPMENT OF SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY CONNECTING TO
MICCO ROAD NOW, OR ARE WE JUST GOING TO END UP WITH ANOTHER BRANCH COMING OFF OF THE INTERSTATE THAT
CONNECTS TO THESE DEVELOPMENTS? SO THERE'S NO CONNECTION OR NO CROSS CONNECTION. 
          SO HOW IS IT GOING TO IMPACT ON IT? RIGHT. AND THE OTHER THING WAS WHEN I WAS GOING
THROUGH THE PACKET, I DIDN'T SEE ANY PROPOSAL THAT I PROBABLY SHOULDN'T HAVE HAD TO SEE ONE OF WHAT THE
MODIFICATIONS DIFFERENCE WAS GOING TO BE FROM THE ORIGINAL PLAN THAT WAS PROPOSED ON HERE'S THE EMERALD LAKES, HERE'S THIS GOLDEN GOLDEN TICKET THAT WAS PRESENTED
TO US 40 YEARS AGO OR HOWEVER LONG AGO IT WAS. 
          WHAT WAS TOLD, THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE. THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THERE
FOR YOU. 
          IT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT THING. I DIDN'T SEE WHERE THERE'S GOING TO BE ANY CHANGES TO IT,
WHERE NOW THEY'RE GOING TO END UP WITH IS A LITTLE BIT MORE LAND THAT THEY CAN DEVELOP, RIGHT? I'M APPRECIATIVE OF THE FACT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE TAKING OVER THE STORMWATER. 
          THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME. THAT'S YOU KNOW, I THINK THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE GAINING. 
          SO THEY SHOULD BE TAKING OVER THE MAINTENANCE OF THEIR DRAINAGE AND STORMWATER COMING OFF
OF THEIR DEVELOPMENTS. 
          AND FOR THE SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY. BUT THE SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY NEVER
COMES INTO COMPLETION. 
          ALL THEY GOT WAS MORE LAND. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 
          MISTER MORTON. YOU WANT TO DIVE INTO THE MECCA ROAD EXTENSION? DID YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT? SURE. JASON. 
          THAT'S OUR DESIRE. WE HAVE WE'RE WORKING WITH THOSE DEVELOPERS,
AND WE WOULD ANTICIPATE YOU HAVING AN OPTION TO CONSIDER THAT IN THE SOMEWHAT NEAR FUTURE. I DON'T HAVE A TIMELINE ON WHAT THAT MIGHT,
MIGHT LOOK LIKE. 
          THERE'S SOME HURDLES WITH THE DENIAL. LOTUS DENIAL. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, WE CONTINUE TO WORK TOWARDS GETTING THE PARKWAY COMPLETE,
NOT JUST IN THAT AREA, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT STRATEGIES TO COMPLETE THE PARKWAY ALTOGETHER. 
          THANK YOU. AND I CONFIRMED WITH ALTHEA THIS,
THIS PORTION OF THE, THE PORTION THAT INCLUDES THESE PONDS IS SHOULD COME FORWARD SOMETIME LATER THIS YEAR. 
          THANK YOU, MADAM ROSENKER. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD. 
          THIS IS PART OF THE PARKWAY THAT'S ALREADY BEEN BEEN BUILT. 
          THANK YOU MA'AM. OKAY, I NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED. 
          SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE. 
          ANY DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? YEAH. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE JUST APPROVING THE
STORMWATER. 
          THEY'RE TAKING OVER STORMWATER AND FILLING IN THAT POND,
AND IT'S GOING BACK TO BEING THEIR PROPERTY. 
          WE'RE NOT APPROVING ANYTHING ELSE. WE'RE JUST APPROVING STORMWATER. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. IT'S AN AMENDMENT TO THE DRAINAGE AND EASEMENT AGREEMENT. 
          THANK YOU. ALL IN FAVOR? SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. 
          AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES FIVE ZERO. WE'RE NOW ON COUNCIL REPORTS. 
          [COMMITTEE AND COUNCIL REPORTS:]
I'LL START WITH COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN. SURE. SO IN REFERENCE TO. 
          I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF RESPOND TO SOMETHING THAT DOUG MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE
THE MEETING IN REGARDS TO THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD. 
          EVERYBODY KNOWS I'M IN FAVOR OF GETTING RID OF THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD. 
          I MADE THAT PRETTY CLEAR, BUT I LOST AND THAT'S FINE. BUT YOU KNOW,
I DO HAVE TO COMMEND DOUG FOR ALL HIS HARD WORK. 
          I LIKE TO THINK I, I LIT THE FIRE UNDER IT WITH MY,
WITH MY MOTION. 
          I WAS PROBABLY PART OF IT, BUT HE MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING BRINGING
SOMETHING UP IN THE MEETING. 
          AND SO I, I THINK MAYBE THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO HAVE DONE THAT WAS RIGHT NOW DURING YOUR
COMMITTEE REPORT, BUT SINCE. 
          SINCE YOU DIDN'T. I'LL GO AHEAD AND BRING IT UP FOR YOU. ARE WE INTERESTED IN HEARING WHAT
HE MIGHT HAVE TO SAY ABOUT A POSSIBLE, YOU KNOW, MORE ACTION ORIENTED PLAN FOR THESE NEW MEMBERS OF THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY
BOARD IN A FUTURE MEETING? COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON. I'M I'M OPEN TO IT. I'M STILL I'M LOOKING JUST TO GET MOVEMENT WITH
THE TURKEY FEASIBILITY STUDY. 
          I'M STILL ON THAT CREEK, TURKEY CREEK. MY APOLOGIES. 
          TURKEY CREEK FEASIBILITY STUDY. A LOT OF SYLLABLES. 
          YEAH. SO SO THAT'S THAT'S THE START RIGHT THERE. 
          GET SOME MOVEMENT ON THAT BECAUSE EVERY TIME MY WIFE AND I GO THERE AND I LOOK AT THE LIST
OF PEOPLE SIGN IN. 
          YOU'VE SEEN PEOPLE FROM CANADA FROM ALL OVER. 
          LIKE EVERYBODY SEES WHAT WE'RE BLESSED WITH,
BUT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE TAKING CARE OF THAT. 
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SO COUNCILMAN HAMMER, YES, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY,
WHEN I HAD THE, OR WHEN I WAS PART OF THE DISASTER RELIEF COMMITTEE, WE HAD A FUNDRAISING STRATEGY TO WHERE WE COULD RAISE FUNDS FOR THINGS FOR DISASTERS
AROUND NOT JUST OUR CITY, BUT EVERYWHERE, BECAUSE WE I THINK WE DONATED TO EVEN OTHER COUNTRIES THROUGH OUR DISASTER
RECOVERY BOARD. 
          IS THERE A MECHANISM FOR OUR SUSTAINABILITY BOARD TO START FUNDRAISING TO RAISE MONEY FOR
PLANTS, FOR THINGS? SO IF PEOPLE WANT TO DONATE THEIR PLANTS,
IF PEOPLE WANT TO DONATE PAVERS, IF PEOPLE WANT TO DONATE THINGS, DO THEY HAVE A MECHANISM TO WHERE THEY CAN RECEIVE ITEMS AS DONATIONS FOR THE
SUSTAINABILITY BOARD? BECAUSE I KNOW WE GAVE THEM THE ABILITY TO DO THE PLANTS AT THE CORNER OF U.S. 
          ONE AND PORT MALABAR. WE GAVE THEM THE GO AHEAD TO DESIGN THE SUSAN CONNOLLY GARDEN. 
          AND THEY HAVE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE EXCITED TO DONATE THINGS. 
          DO WE HAVE THE MECHANISM MOVING FORWARD TO WHERE THEY CAN RECEIVE THOSE DONATED THINGS? MR. MORTON? THAT IS SOMETHING I HONESTLY HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT. 
          I'M NOT REALLY UP TO SPEED ON THE MUNICIPAL FUND FOUNDATION AND USES AND PURPOSES OF
GRANTS. 
          I KNOW WE HAD A TERTIARY CONVERSATION AROUND THIS DURING THE IDEA OF RAISING FUNDS FOR THE
4TH OF JULY CELEBRATION. 
          SO I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S SOMEONE HERE WITH WAY MORE EXPERTISE THAN ME. I DON'T REALLY
GET ENGAGED THAT OFTEN WITH THE THE FOUNDATION AND ITS USES. 
          SO WITH THE FOUNDATION, I'M NOT SURE, BUT PERHAPS LARRY COULD SHED SOME LIGHT ON THAT
BECAUSE WE USE THE FOUNDATION TO CREATE SACRIFICE PARK AND WE USE THE FOUNDATION IN MY, WHAT I BELIEVE FOR THE MAYOR'S BALL AND THOSE FUNDS
GO TO THOSE SELECTED, WHICH, BY THE WAY, YOU'RE ALL INVITED. 
          WELL, IT'S SATURDAY, AND THE BENEFICIARY WILL BE ESSENTIAL PREGNANCY,
WHICH I WAS GOING TO COVER IN MY REPORTS. 
          BUT, LARRY, I THINK COUNCILMAN HAMMER HAS A QUESTION REGARDING DONATIONS. 
          SO IS THERE A MECHANISM FOR THEM TO RECEIVE DONATIONS AND,
AND OR ITEMS, OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL HAS TO COME UP WITH AS A MECHANISM OR A STRATEGY FOR THEM TO RAISE MONEY FOR NATIVE PLANTS AND THINGS
THAT THEY'RE DOING AROUND OUR CITY? THIS IS NOT TIED TO THE MUNICIPAL FOUNDATION. 
          SO AND YOU ALSO DISBANDED THE I APOLOGIZE. SORRY. 
          YOU DISBANDED THE EMERGENCY RELIEF GROUP THAT YOU HAD. 
          THERE'S STILL FUNDS THAT ARE STILL SITTING THERE. I HONESTLY DO NOT KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY
HEAD HOW MUCH THERE IS, I'M GOING TO SAY ABOUT $4,000. 
          BUT AS FAR AS DONATIONS, I WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO CHECK ON THAT TO TO ASSIST YOU AND GIVE
YOU SOME INFORMATION. 
          NOW WE WE BECAME THE BOARD. WE DISSOLVED THE COMMITTEE,
CORRECT? YES. SO WE ARE ACTUALLY STILL THE BOARD, IF I'M CORRECT,
AM I CORRECT? OKAY. SO YEAH, WE'RE STILL THE BOARD FOR THAT. 
          THERE'S JUST NO COMMITTEE. CORRECT. NOW MY QUESTION IS HOW WE HAD STRATEGIZED FUNDING FOR
THAT COMMITTEE. 
          IS IT AN OPTION TO HAVE A STRATEGIZED FUNDING FOR THIS COMMITTEE SO THEY CAN RAISE MONEY
AND THEY CAN RAISE AWARENESS, AND THEY CAN RECEIVE DONATIONS FROM DIFFERENT PARTNERS AROUND THE CITY TO ACTUALLY GIVE
THEM THAT FUNDING STRATEGY THAT THEY DESPERATELY NEED, BECAUSE IT'S A 501 C THREE. I WOULD REALLY PREFER TO DO SOME RESEARCH ON IT BEFORE I
ANSWER IF THAT'S OKAY. 
          THAT SOUNDS GREAT. THANK YOU. THAT'S FAIR. THANK YOU. 
          LARRY. DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR REPORT, MR. OR COUNCILMAN? YEAH, I JUST WANT TO GIVE THEM A LAYUP FOR ALL THE HARD WORK THEY WERE DOING. OKAY. YEAH,
I KIND OF LIKE THE TURKEY CREEK IDEA, SO THAT THAT'S A GOOD STARTING POINT. COUNCILMAN HAMMER. 
          OKAY. I WANT TO COMMEND OUR COUNCIL FOR AN AWESOME JOB WITH THE SCREEN LADY THAT THAT HIT
ME IN THE HEAD PRETTY HARD. 
          AND I WAS, I WAS, I WAS THANKFUL THAT WE CAME TOGETHER AND DID SOMETHING FOR HER ON THAT. 
          I'M, I'M, I'M BLESSED TO HAVE YOU GUYS NEXT TO ME FOR THAT. 
          MY SECOND HURRAH IS I RECEIVED A COMPLAINT ON WEDNESDAY ABOUT POTHOLES ON EMERSON. 
          NOT 1.5 HOURS LATER, AFTER I CALLED IT IN, I WAS GETTING NOTIFIED THOSE POTHOLES WERE
FILLED. 
          OUR PUBLIC WORKS IS A BUNCH OF ROCK STARS. THANK YOU VERY,
VERY MUCH, BECAUSE THERE WERE STILL PEOPLE TEXTING IN ABOUT 
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COMPLAINTS. AND I WAS SENDING THEM PICTURES OF THE POTHOLES FILLED. 
          SO IT WAS IT WAS SO AWESOME. IT'S SOMETHING I LOVE DOING. 
          MY THIRD THING IS I AM, I AM EXTREMELY PASSIONATE ABOUT WICK'S SOCCER. 
          WICK SOCCER. I WAS, I, I GOT TO GO OUT THERE LAST NIGHT,
ON WEDNESDAY NIGHT AND WATCH AND WATCH WICK SOCCER. 
          THERE IS 12 TEAMS AND THERE IS 15 TO 20 PEOPLE THAT COME OUT FOR EACH TEAM. 
          THERE'S 200 PEOPLE OUT PLAYING SOCCER ON A WEDNESDAY NIGHT. 
          AND THESE AREN'T KIDS. THESE ARE ADULTS. THESE ARE MEN. 
          WE SIT THERE AND SAY, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FOR PEOPLE TO DO IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          WE HAD 200 PEOPLE AT LIBERTY PARK LAST NIGHT,
AND THIS ISN'T THE FIRST YEAR. 
          THIS ISN'T THE SECOND YEAR, THIS ISN'T THE THIRD YEAR. THIS ISN'T EVEN THE FOURTH YEAR.
THIS IS THE FIFTH YEAR OF THEM DOING THIS AND I AM I AM SUPER, SUPER, SUPER EXCITED TO SEE THE GROWTH THAT THEY'RE HAVING. 
          BUT WE ARE LIMITED ON PLACES FOR THEM TO PLAY AND THEY'RE BEING BOUNCED AROUND. 
          PALM BAY. I WOULD LOVE FOR OUR PARKS AND REC,
OUR STAFF TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING SOLID AND CONCRETE FOR THEM BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE, THEY TAKE THEIR WEDNESDAY NIGHTS OFF AND I MEAN,
THEY HAVE A BLAST. 
          I, I SPENT THE WHOLE TIME OUT THERE. I WAS OUT THERE TO SEE ONE TEAM,
BUT I ACTUALLY STAYED AND WATCHED THE REST OF IT. 
          AND I DON'T EVEN LIKE SOCCER. I JUST HAD A BLAST WATCHING PEOPLE PLAY,
PLAY IN PALM BAY AND SMILE AND GROW. 
          AND IT WAS, IT WAS EVERYTHING THAT THAT THAT GETTING ELECTED AND SAYING,
I, I WANT TO BRING MORE FUN TO PALM BAY IT. 
          THAT'S IT. THAT'S THE THING WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR IN PALM BAY AND WE HAVE IT RIGHT NOW. 
          I THINK WE SHOULD EMBRACE IT. AND I THINK WE SHOULD STRATEGIZE MORE ON IT BECAUSE WE DO
HAVE A SOCCER FIELD AND IT IT GETS LOCKED UP BY, BY ANOTHER ORGANIZATION. I WOULD I MEAN, I MEAN,
THEY JUST WANT WEDNESDAY NIGHT AT 730. 
          AND I THINK AS A STAFF AS AS A CITY COUNCIL,
I HOPE YOU GUYS AGREE WITH ME, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOMETHING MOVING FORWARD TO SOLIDIFY THEM IN PLACE. AND I THINK IT'S EVERYTHING THAT,
THAT OUR CITY NEEDS. 
          MY LAST THING IS ILLEGAL DUMPING. I AM SEEING ILLEGAL DUMPING EVERYWHERE AGAIN. 
          DEPUTY CHIEF SPEARS AND ME ACTUALLY SPEARHEADED A COUPLE OF ILLEGAL DUMPS AND ACTUALLY
CAUGHT THE PEOPLE. 
          AND IT WAS AWESOME TO SEE OUR PD IN ACTION. I MEAN,
IT WAS TWO HOURS AFTER I NOTIFIED SPEARS AND HE HAD THEM PULLED OVER AND HE FOUND HIM AND EVERYTHING. NOW THAT ILLEGAL DUMPING IS COMING BACK. 
          AND I HIT A FEW PLACES TODAY AND I ACTUALLY SPOKE WITH SOME PEOPLE AND GOT ONE OF THEM
CLEANED UP. 
          WE ACTUALLY HAD THE PERSON COME OUT AND SAY,
I'LL HAVE IT ALL OUT OF HERE BY SATURDAY. AND EVERYBODY IS TELLING ME BECAUSE THERE WAS A FACEBOOK POST AND EVERYBODY WAS, WAS, WAS, WAS UNHAPPY ABOUT IT. 
          AND I GOTTA SAY, EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT I TALKED TO SAID THAT DENNIS BUNT REACHED OUT TO
THEM ALREADY. 
          OUR PUBLIC WORKS IS WATCHING PEOPLE ON FACEBOOK AND BEING PROACTIVE ABOUT ISSUES THAT
WE'RE HAVING. 
          THIS IS THE PUBLIC WORKS THAT THAT WHEN I GOT ELECTED,
I WANTED TO SEE THIS IS THIS IS THIS IS SOMETHING AMAZING LIKE THAT TRANSPARENCY THAT REACTING TO PEOPLE'S COMPLAINTS, LIKE, LIKE WE'RE IN A STEP IN THE DIRECTION THAT I WANT
TO SEE THE CITY GOING. 
          AND I'M HAPPY TO SAY THAT I'LL SAY IT LOUDER,
I I'M HAPPY. 
          I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY INVOLVED IN IT AND AND I MEAN,
ROCK ON, MAN. 
          I LOVE YOU, COUNCILMAN. SO SO WAIT. GREAT REPORT SIR. 
          YOU BEAT THAT? I WHAT'D YOU SAY? BEAT THAT. OH,
OKAY. 
          I DIDN'T YOU DIDN'T SAY IT LOUD ENOUGH. YOU MEAN TO GO IN HERE? SO COUNCILMAN JUST GETTING TO YOUR POINT. OKAY. 
          BEFORE. YES, SIR. RIGHT. YOU WERE LOOKING FOR CONSENSUS ON THIS SOCCER FIELD,
RIGHT? IS THERE AN ISSUE WITH IT ON WEDNESDAYS, WEDNESDAY EVENINGS FOR THEM TO HAVE THEIR SOCCER? I THINK IT'S AT CERTAIN FIELDS THEY'RE DOING WORK ON THEM,
SO THEY'RE BEING BOUNCED AROUND AND I THINK THEY GOT MOVED TO LIBERTY. 
          WHERE? THERE ON TWO FIELDS. WHERE? WHEN THEY WERE AT FRED POPPY ON A BASEBALL FIELD,
THEY COULD UTILIZE ONE FIELD AND BUT THEY GO OUT THERE, THEY, THEY SPEND THEIR OWN MONEY TO MARK EVERYTHING. 
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THEY USE THEIR OWN LINES, EVERYTHING. I MEAN,
IT WAS SO PUT TOGETHER AND SO ORGANIZED. 
          I MEAN, THERE WAS NO FIGHTING. THERE WAS NO,
EVERYBODY WAS LAUGHING AND HAVING A GOOD TIME. 
          IT WAS, IT WAS OKAY. BUT MY, MY POINT, MY QUESTION IS MORE TOWARDS YOU. 
          I, I WAS JUST NOW INTERPRETING YOUR, YOUR COMMENTS AS TO HAVING AN ISSUE,
GETTING A FIELD, BUT IT'S JUST TEMPORARY BECAUSE THEY'RE FIXING THE FIELD. 
          WELL, THEY DON'T HAVE A SOLIDIFIED PLACE. SO EVEN WHEN THE SOCCER FIELDS ARE,
ARE GOOD, THEY DON'T HAVE THE SOCCER FIELDS BECAUSE IT'S BEING USED BY SOMEONE ELSE AT THAT SAME PARTICULAR TIME. 
          YES, SIR. AND SO YOUR PROPOSAL IS FOR STAFF TO LOOK AT WHAT,
FINDING THEM SOMEWHERE IF IT CAN BE SOMEWHERE. 
          PERMANENT BASEBALL FIELDS. WORKING SOMETHING OUT WITH THE ORGANIZATION ON EVEN EVEN
FABRICATING THEIR OWN FIELD. 
          MAYBE WORKING OUT WITH THE, THE REC PARTNER THAT CURRENTLY HAS THE FIELD ON WEDNESDAY FOR
ANOTHER DAY, PERHAPS THAT THEY COULD USE. WELL, I THINK WEDNESDAY NIGHT'S EVERYBODY'S GOT THAT NIGHT
OFF. 
          I EVEN ASKED HIM IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE ON SATURDAYS DURING THE DAY. 
          SO THEY DON'T NEED LIGHTS. AND IT'S. THAT IS THE NIGHT THAT EVERYBODY HAS OFF. 
          SO IT'S 730 WEDNESDAY NIGHT AND IT'S SOMETHING EVERYBODY LOOKS FORWARD TO. 
          SO THAT'S THE THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT WE'RE. 
          WHERE I WAS GOING IS TO SUPPORT YOUR, YOUR EFFORTS IN HAVING STAFF TRY TO COMMUNICATE WITH
THE REC PARTNERS TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO. BECAUSE I, I DO BELIEVE, AND I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS,
WE NEED MORE BASEBALL FIELDS, WE NEED SOCCER FIELDS, WE NEED FOOTBALL FIELDS. 
          AND SO IN THE MEANTIME MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE WORKED OUT. 
          MR. MORTON. JUST JUST TO HOPEFULLY HELP. HELP HERE. 
          SO WE'VE MET WITH ALL THE USER GROUPS. WE'VE MET WITH THAT SOCCER GROUP. 
          WE HAVE EVERYONE AT LEAST SORT OF TEMPORARILY WORKED OUT BECAUSE WE'RE NEGOTIATING A LOT
OF DIFFERENT USES AND DIFFERENT GROUPS. 
          AND SO ULTIMATELY WHAT HAPPENED IS THERE IS A CAPACITY STUDY. 
          WE NEED ADDITIONAL CAPACITY. WE'VE HEARD, I BELIEVE. 
          AND SO IT'S KIND OF A PREVIEW. WE'VE HEARD COUNCIL IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          AND AS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS THIS YEAR,
WE ARE BRINGING FORWARD INITIATIVES TO INCREASE SOCCER CAPACITY, PICKLEBALL CAPACITY, BASEBALL AND FOOTBALL AS PART OF PARK IMPACT FEE SPENDING TO ADDRESS. 
          I THINK PARKS AND REC HAS DONE A GREAT JOB WITH SCHEDULING THE ASSETS WE HAVE. 
          AND TO YOUR POINT, COUNCILMAN, I THINK WE'RE HEARING THAT IT'S TIME TO USE SOME OF THAT
IMPACT FEE MONEY TO DELIVER SOME MORE OF THOSE ELEMENTS THAT WE KNOW ARE STRUGGLING IN TERMS OF USAGE. AND SO WE WERE WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH PARKS AND FACILITIES AND MR. MINER AND HIS TEAM WITH DANIEL AND THE WRECK TEAM TO IDENTIFY FROM ALL THE STUDIES THAT
HAVE BEEN DONE. 
          SO MANY STUDIES, RIGHT. BUT THE POPPY STUDY,
THE SPACE NEEDS STUDY TO BRING BACK ITEMS FOR THE COUNCIL TO GIVE US FURTHER DIRECTION ON THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS, TO ADD PHYSICAL CAPACITY IN THE CITY,
WHETHER THAT TAKES THE SHAPE OF LIGHTING TO ADD ADDITIONAL HOURS OF PLAY, ADDITIONAL FIELDS, IN THE CASE OF SOCCER, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO WE'RE I THINK WE'VE HEARD COUNCIL AND WE'RE DEFINITELY MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION. 
          THANK YOU SIR. AND THAT'S IT. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON YES. 
          MAYOR. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION,
DENNIS BUNTS WITH CODE. 
          SO YES, YES, THAT WAS THE ONLY THING I WANTED TO JUMP IN. 
          BUT STILL THE SAME PUBLIC WORKS AND CODE HAS BEEN DOING AN AMAZING JOB. 
          SO THREE THINGS TODAY, MAYOR. NOT, NOT TEN THIS TIME. 
          THE FIRST ONE I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST CONSENSUS COUNCIL'S CONSENSUS TO DIRECT STAFF TO
BEGIN A FEASIBILITY AND READINESS PLAN FOR FUTURE SOLID WASTE SERVICE OPTIONS. 2030 WILL BE HERE BEFORE WE KNOW IT. 
          AND I REMEMBER IN 2020 WITH THAT CONTRACT AND EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED IT WAS VERY WONKY. 
          SO I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO EXPLORE ALL OPTIONS. 
          AND I'VE ALREADY SPOKEN TO THE CITY MANAGER,
SO HE'S WELL AWARE. 
          SO I'M LOOKING FOR CONSENSUS ON THAT. WELL, I LIKE TO JUST,
YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S A, THAT WASTEWATER PLANT IN PARTICULAR HAS BEEN A THORN. 
          WE'VE BEEN WAITING AND THE GOALPOST HAS BEEN MOVED TIME AND TIME AGAIN. 
          SO RIGHT ALONG THAT I WAS, I WAS GOING TO BRING SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT. 
          BUT MY ISSUE IS WE'VE BEEN WAITING SO LONG AND NOW WE'RE WAITING FOR THE SURETY BOND. 
          AND THAT'S PUTTING US IN A, IN AN EVEN WORSE POSITION,
RIGHT? BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE WAITING ON BATED BREATH. 
          SO I'M HOPING THAT WE COULD, WE COULD NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT I'M TALKING ABOUT SOLID WASTE. 
          I'M TALKING ABOUT SOLID WASTE. I'M TALKING ABOUT OUR WASTEWATER PLANT. 
          OKAY. SO THAT'S WHERE I'M AT. YOU'RE GOING DOWN? YES, A FEASIBILITY STUDY. I GET THAT IN TEN YEARS IN THAT. 
          RIGHT. OR. BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT OUR IMMEDIATE NEED TODAY. 
          YES, SIR. I GOT YOU RIGHT. WELL, ARE YOU TALKING WASTEWATER? NO. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT GARBAGE. NO, NO, I'M TALKING GARBAGE. YES,
SIR. 
          SORRY. OKAY. I SHOULD HAVE CLARIFIED. BUT YEAH,
I'M TALKING AND I JUST SAW REPUBLIC SERVICES WAS HERE EARLIER, 
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BUT I'M TALKING GARBAGE BECAUSE I REMEMBER WE'RE ON A TEN YEAR CONTRACT. 
          YES. SO WE'LL BE UP IN 2030 AND IT COULD BE ADDITIONAL FOUR YEARS. 
          BUT I WANT US TO EXPLORE ALL OPTIONS IN REGARDS TO MOVING FORWARD AS A CITY. 
          I'M TRYING TO BE VERY MINDFUL OF MY WORDING. OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. I'LL JUST SAY IT. I THINK WE CAN ENTERPRISE IT. 
          I THINK WE CAN DO IT. I BELIEVE WE CAN DO IT AS A CITY. 
          AND I'M LOOKING FOR CONSENSUS FROM COUNCIL TO SEE IF WE CAN EXPLORE THAT OPTION. 
          I MEAN, I'M INTERESTED IN PUTTING A TRANSFER STATION IN THAT'S OWNED AND OWNED BY THE CITY
AND LEASED BY AN OPERATOR LIKE WASTE MANAGEMENT OR REPUBLIC SERVICES. 
          BUT I DON'T THINK WE'RE QUITE READY TO, TO BUY ALL THE TRUCKS AND THE STAFFING AND THE
PENSIONS AND THE RETIREMENT PLANS AND THE, TO TO ENTERPRISE IN-HOUSE GARBAGE SERVICES. OKAY. 
          SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A TRANSFER STATION, BUT WE'RE NOT THERE YET. 
          OKAY. COUNCILMAN. HAMMEL. I LIKE THE IDEA AND I WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE TO EXPLORE IT,
BUT I DO WANT TO BRING INTO EFFECT THE VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY HARD TO FIND HEAVY EQUIPMENT MECHANICS. 
          IT IS EXTREMELY HARD TO FIND A HEAVY EQUIPMENT MECHANIC AND TO HIRE ENOUGH FOR THAT IS
EXTREMELY HARD. 
          AND I THINK WE'RE SEEING THAT NOT JUST AT REPUBLIC,
BUT AT WASTE MANAGEMENT THAT THIS IS A SPECIALIZED A SPECIALIZED TRUCK AS WELL. 
          WHEN YOU'RE GETTING INTO A GARBAGE TRUCK, IT'S NOT JUST AN INTERNATIONAL,
IT'S NOT JUST A MAC. 
          THESE ARE SPECIALIZED TRUCKS THAT A LOT OF TIMES AREN'T EVEN MADE IN FLORIDA. 
          SO WHEN THESE THINGS ARE UNDER WARRANTY, YOU HAVE TO TAKE THEM ALL THE WAY AWAY OR YOU'RE
SPENDING BIG MONEY TO GET THEM THERE. 
          YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IF WE DID THE TRASH OURSELVES,
WE DID THE TRASH OURSELVES. 
          LIKE YOUR FIRST PROBABLY FOUR YEARS, I THINK I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE AN FOUR YEAR
UNLIMITED MILE WARRANTY, WHICH IS, WHICH IS STANDARD THAT, YOU KNOW, BEING FROM AN INTERNATIONAL BACKGROUND,
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE OFFERED FOR MUNICIPALITIES. 
          BUT EVERY SINGLE TIME THAT YOU SEE, LIKE AT WASTE MANAGEMENT AND THAT WAS ONE OF MY
PARTNERS OR ONE OF MY VENDORS THAT I WOULD GO AND SEE ON A REGULAR BASIS. AND ONE OF THEIR BIGGEST THINGS WAS KEEPING THE TRUCKS ON THE ROAD AND
KEEPING PEOPLE TO WORK ON THOSE TRUCKS. 
          THEN EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE MECHANICS HAD TO GO THROUGH A LOT OF SAFETY THINGS. 
          YOU'RE DEALING WITH HEPATITIS SHOTS BECAUSE YOU'RE DEALING WITH,
WITH, WITH WASTE. 
          IT, IT, IT IS AN EXTREMELY, EXTREMELY INTRICATE PROCESS. 
          OKAY. AND I'M, I'M OKAY WITH A FEASIBILITY IF WE CAN LOOK INTO IT,
BUT ALL THESE THINGS NEED TO BE REGISTERED WHEN WE DO THAT. 
          OKAY. COUNCILMAN. YES. MAYOR. SO TO THE POINT. 
          SO FIRST OFF, I WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, I REALLY ACTUALLY APPRECIATE FROM THIS COUNCIL THAT
THERE'S A LOT OF CREATIVE THINKING. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD THING. YOU KNOW,
A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, YOU KNOW, JAFFE MENTIONED DEPUTY MAYOR MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT PRIVATIZING THE DEPARTMENT. YOU'RE BRINGING GREAT,
YOU KNOW, GREAT CREATIVE IDEAS TO TABLE. 
          I WOULD JUST KIND OF REMIND THE COUNCIL RIGHT NOW THAT,
YOU KNOW, WE WENT THROUGH A MAJOR SHIFT WHEN WE FIRED, THE CITY MANAGER BROUGHT ON A NEW ONE. I HE'S JUST GETTING CLOSE TO HIS ONE YEAR MARK. 
          WE'RE GOING THROUGH A MAJOR DOGE INITIATIVE. AND WHILE BEING CREATIVE IS REALLY AWESOME
AND WE SHOULD CONTINUE DOING IT. 
          AND I DON'T WANT TO STUNT THAT AT ALL. WE ALSO HAVE TO REMEMBER WE CAN ONLY SHOW SO MUCH
FOOD INTO SOMEBODY'S MOUTH AT AT ONE TIME. 
          SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BEING COGNIZANT OF THAT AS WE'RE COMING UP WITH
THESE IDEAS. 
          BUT I LOVE THE CREATIVITY AND I CERTAINLY LOVE TO HEAR MORE,
YOU KNOW, HEAR MORE ABOUT IT. 
          BUT AS FAR AS LIKE A FEASIBILITY STUDY ON THAT,
IS IT SOMETHING MAYBE WE COULD BRING UP LIKE ONCE YOU KNOW CITY MANAGER MORTON KIND OF SAYS, HEY, WE, WE, WE FEEL LIKE WE'RE COMFORTABLE AT THE END OF THIS MAJOR DOGE
PROCESS. 
          I'VE GOT THE CITY ORGANIZATION WHERE I REALLY WANT IT AND FEEL LIKE WE'VE INCREASED THE
EFFICIENCY IN SOME OF THESE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, MEAT AND POTATOES DEPARTMENTS. 
          AND THEN MAYBE START COMING UP WITH LIKE, YOU KNOW,
EVEN MORE CREATIVE IDEAS. 
          BUT THAT'S JUST KIND OF SOME $0.02. OKAY. AND TO YEAH. 
          I'M MORE ALONG THE LINES OF WE'RE NOT READY YET. 
          RIGHT? I'M JUST, THAT'S WHERE I'M AT. WE'RE NOT READY. 
          GREAT IDEA. DON'T WANT TO STIFLE THAT CREATIVITY. 
          NOT ONE BIT. BUT I THINK WE'RE WE'RE FAR FROM THAT RIGHT NOW. 
          KIND OF LIKE MR. WOODSON. I BELIEVE WOODY'S HIS NAME WANTS A A POWER. 
          ME, I DON'T THINK THE CITY'S IN THAT POSITION FOR FOR THAT RIGHT NOW,
PERHAPS IN THE FUTURE, 
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BUT I DON'T THINK WE'RE WE'RE READY FOR THAT. 
          YES, SIR. AND TO COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN'S POINT,
ANYTHING I'M BRINGING FOR CONSENSUS. 
          I SPEAK TO THE CITY MANAGER FIRST BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO BLINDSIDE COUNCIL. 
          I DON'T WANT TO BLINDSIDE STAFF. SO SO BUT I DO APPRECIATE YOU CONSIDERING STAFF BECAUSE I
EVEN SPOKE WITH THE DEPUTY CITY MANAGER IN THE MEETING AS WELL, JUST TO SEE WHAT THEIR TAKE WAS,
IF WE COULD DO IT. 
          BUT I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR HIM. BUT HE DID MENTION THAT IF WE WERE GOING TO DO IT,
NOW WOULD BE THE TIME TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND BEGIN THE DISCUSSION. 
          IF MR. MORTON WANTS TO JUMP IN, HE CAN, BUT I DON'T WANT TO PUT HIM ON THE SPOT. 
          BUT THE SECOND THING I WAS LOOKING FOR CONSENSUS ON WAS,
YOU KNOW, EVALUATING AND DIRECTING STAFF TO LOOK INTO LANDFILL IN PALM BAY. IT'S VERY IT'S VERY PROFITABLE. WE HAVE SPECIFIC AREAS IN OUR CITY THAT CAN
MAXIMIZE ON THIS. 
          AND INSTEAD OF HAVING A GIANT MOUND OF TRASH,
WE CAN LOOK AT GREEN ENERGY OR DOING SOMETHING OF THE SORT, BUT IT'S A VERY PROFITABLE BUSINESS. THE REASON WHY I'M LOOKING AT IDEAS LIKE THIS IS
BECAUSE WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT HOW WE'RE SHORT ON THE BUDGET, AND WE'RE SHORT ON PAYING FOR ROADS AND SHORT ON PAYING FOR THIS. 
          SO I'M JUST LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, LIKE ANY BUSINESS OWNER WOULD,
TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO GENERATE INCOME SO WE CAN MEET THE NEEDS OF THE CITY. 
          SO THAT'S ALL IT IS. SO I'M NOT GOING TO DIE ON THE SWORD. 
          IT'S NOT WORTH IT. BUT I WILL SAY, I THINK IT'S WORTH EXPLORING WHEN WE'RE SAYING WE NEED
INCOME AND WE DON'T WANT TO JUST GET THE INCOME FROM SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING. 
          SO THAT'S ALL. WELL, THE THIRD ONE, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY SOMETHING. 
          SO I GUESS I'LL WAIT FOR CONSENSUS ON THE LANDFILL AND THEN I'LL SPEAK ON THE THIRD ONE. 
          OKAY, I'LL START WITH COUNCILMAN. OKAY. WELL YOU KNOW,
I WAS GENUINE WHEN I SAID LIKE, I THOUGHT THEY WERE GREAT CREATIVE IDEAS. 
          SO IF YOU'RE, IF YOU SPOKE WITH STAFF AND WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT,
YOU KNOW, FEASIBILITY AND PLANS AND BEING CREATIVE, THEN YOU'VE GOT MY CONSENSUS. THANK YOU. I KNOW THE COUNTY IS LOOKING FOR A SPOT. 
          OKAY. WHAT DO YOU SAY? I'M I'M A HARD NO ON THE LANDFILL,
BUT STILL A STRONG SUPPORTER OF THE TRANSFER STATION. 
          I THINK THAT IS AN INCOME POTENTIAL. THAT THAT THE CITY CAN LOOK AT. 
          IT WAS ACTUALLY SOMETHING I BROUGHT UP TO MR. MORTON,
ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE FIRST TIMES I MET HIM, AND I KNOW IT'S STILL ON HIS LIST. SO. ALL RIGHT. 
          LAST THING I GUESS I'M LEANING TOWARDS THE. I'M JUST SAYING. 
          YES, SIR. AND AND THAT'S WHY I JUST WANT TO LOOK AT. 
          THERE'S DESIREE RANCH. I KNOW THE COUNTY IS LOOKING FOR SPOTS. 
          SO. OKAY. YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING. 
          OKAY, I HEAR YOU. JUST EXPLORING. JUST EXPLORING OPTIONS. 
          YES, SIR. BUT THE LAST THING, SO I, I SERVED ON THE BOARD FOR THREE,
TWO, ONE EMPOWERMENT IS OPERATED WELL, IT WAS FOUNDED BY COACH RAY HERRING. HE COACHES UP WITH NOTRE DAME. 
          AND TOMORROW THEY'RE HAVING AN EVENT AT EASTERN FLORIDA STATE COLLEGE FOR THE YOUTH 321
EMPOWERMENT IS ABOUT EMPOWERING THE YOUTH, SPECIFICALLY MALES NINTH THROUGH 12TH GRADE AND JUST NOT LETTING THEM THINK SPORTS IS THE
END, BUT YOU CAN BE MORE LIKE. THEY TEACH FINANCIAL LITERACY,
EMOTIONAL INTELLIGENCE, THEY COVER EVERYTHING. 
          AND THEIR GUEST SPEAKER, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE HERE IN BREVARD COUNTY AT EASTERN FLORIDA
STATE COLLEGE IS NONE OTHER THAN URBAN MEYER. 
          HE'LL BE COMING TO SPEAK. SO THAT'LL BE NICE. 
          YOU KNOW, FLORIDA GATORS, OHIO STATE TOMORROW TOMORROW AT NINE. 
          DON'T QUOTE ME. I SHOULD HAVE HAD THIS UP, BUT TOMORROW AT 9:00 AT EASTERN FLORIDA STATE
MELBOURNE CAMPUS. 
          SO YOU CAN TRY TO GET A PHOTO OP REAL QUICK. IF YOU'RE A GATOR FAN OR OHIO STATE FAN OR
JACKSONVILLE, HE WAS THERE SHORTLY. BUT YEAH, SO THAT'S ALL. 
          MAYOR. I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO COACH RAY HARRINGTON 321 EMPOWERMENT. 
          SO THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR NO COMMENTS MAYOR. 
          SO I'LL TAKE THANKS FOR YIELDING YOUR TIME TO ME. 
          THE VERY FIRST THING IS WE WE HAD A GREAT RIBBON CUTTING AT FOR FIRE STATION SEVEN. 
          OUTSTANDING JOB BY THE CHIEF AND HIS TEAM. I ALSO WANTED TO CONGRATULATE,
COMMEND. 
          HEY, LISTEN, IF YOU THINK ABOUT DOING AN ARMED ROBBERY IN PALM BAY,
DON'T DO IT. 
          DON'T DO IT. I'LL TELL YOU THAT. I'LL TELL YOU WHY. 
          OFFICERS HOFFMAN AND OH, NO, IT WAS OFFICER BROWN ON THAT ARMED ROBBERY WITH A FIREARM. 
          HE FOILED THAT ACTUALLY WAS ABLE TO MAKE THE MAKE TWO ARRESTS. 
          AND THEN, MOREOVER, WE HAD OFFICERS POP A SEAL,
BUT I CALL THEM, AND YOU'RE ALLOWED TO CALL THEM POPSICLE AND HOFFMAN, THEY THEY ACTUALLY WERE ABLE TO SAVE A VICTIM THAT WAS STABBED,
WENT INTO A PERSON'S HOME AND SAVED THE VICTIM BY JUST DOING GREAT 
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POLICE WORK AND BEING SO OBSERVANT. SO WANTED TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT FOR THAT. 
          AND THEN THIS SATURDAY, I'M HOPING THAT WE ALL ENJOY OURSELVES AT THE MAYOR'S BALL. 
          THE BENEFICIARY IS ARE FROM BAYSIDE LAKES ESSENTIAL PREGNANCY,
WHICH THEY ACTUALLY TAKE CARE OF FAMILIES AND WOMEN AND THEIR HEALTH. RIGHT. AND THEN I WAS GOING TO TELL YOU,
SIR, AND I, YOU KNOW, WHEN HE SAID SOLID WASTE, I'M THINKING WASTEWATER BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN ON
MY MIND. 
          AND OUR WASTEWATER PLANT AND THE SURETY BOND. 
          AND, AND I'M, I'M JUST LIKE, I WANT THAT THING DONE. 
          FINISHED TOMORROW IF WE CAN YOU COME IN, YOU WANT TO,
YOU'RE GOING TO WANT TO COME. 
          OH, SO YOU'RE GOING TO COME AND GIVE ME UNDER YOUR REPORT,
SIR. 
          OH. THAT'LL WORK. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT CONCLUDES MY MY REPORTS. 
          HEY! ESSENTIAL PREGNANCY. THE MAYOR'S BALL. HURRAH! I'LL. I'LL SEE YOU THERE. AND NOW, MR. MORTON,
WITH YOUR REPORT, SIR. 
          [ADMINISTRATIVE AND LEGAL REPORTS:]
WE GOT A LOT OF REPORTING TONIGHT, AND I'M BEING SERIOUS. 
          I'M NOT BEING BEING FUNNY, BUT I WANT TO HIT ONE FIRST. 
          AND DYNAMITE. DENNIS BUNN HAS BEEN HERE ALL NIGHT TO GIVE YOU THE GARBAGE UPDATE,
WHICH PROBABLY COULD TAKE SOME TIME. WE CAN KICK THAT TO ANOTHER MEETING, I THINK HE SAID WAS OKAY. I KNOW IT'S GETTING LATE, BUT HE'S DONE A TREMENDOUS JOB. 
          TO YOUR COMMENT AND MR. HAMMER, THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING THE GREAT WORK STAFF'S BEEN
DOING. 
          THEY'VE RESPONDED. YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME SCUTTLEBUTT AROUND ABOUT ALL THE CHANGES.
THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CHANGE. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DEMANDS THAT WE'VE PUT ON STAFF AND THEY'VE RESPONDED VERY, VERY BEYOND VERY WELL. 
          AMAZING PEOPLE YOU GUYS HAVE HERE. AND SO IT'S JUST AWESOME TO WATCH PEOPLE RISE TO THE
OCCASION AND, AND GROW AND LEARN AND HAVE THE FREEDOM TO DO THE THINGS THEY NEED TO BE DOING. IN FACT,
IT'S SO FUNNY, YOU MENTIONED DENNIS WALKING OUT TODAY OR GOING OUT TODAY ON THE DUMPING. 
          HE HAD ALREADY SENT AROUND THE CITY A WHOLE PROACTIVE DUMPING RESPONSE PLAN,
COORDINATED WITH THE POLICE, COORDINATED WITH EVERYBODY. THAT'S EXACTLY THE ENERGY WE WANT, THE FREEDOM I WANT PEOPLE TO HAVE TO WORK. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          SO TO THE MAYOR'S POINT TONIGHT. SO WE ARE, WE ARE IN AN INTERESTING SITUATION. 
          AND ANYTIME WE SPEND ANY, A GREAT MAN TOLD ME TODAY HE'S SITTING OVER THERE THAT ANY TIME
WE SPEND PUBLIC MONEY, EVEN A DOLLAR. EVEN A DOLLAR. IT'S A SERIOUS ISSUE. 
          OKAY. AND SO TONIGHT, WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS A LOT OF TRUST. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO DO OR HOW ELSE TO DO IT. SO HERE I AM ASKING FOR IT. AND
IT'S NOT JUST ME. I'M GOING TO ASK GABRIEL BAUDOIN TO COME UP, PROBABLY MR. DAVID GERGEN. 
          PATRICIA CAN WEIGH IN AS APPROPRIATE. WE'VE ALSO GOT A REPRESENTATIVE FROM CATHCART
CONSTRUCTION WHO'S BEEN HERE FOR SEVERAL HOURS TO WEATHERING THE STORM WITH US. SO I'M GOING TO READ AN EMAIL. AS YOU KNOW, WE TERMINATED THE CONTRACTOR,
R.J. 
          SULLIVAN. I WANT TO SAY ABOUT 45 DAYS AGO, SOMEWHERE IN THAT TIME FRAME,
I DON'T HAVE THE CALENDAR IN FRONT OF ME. 
          AND THAT SET IN MOTION A CHAIN OF EVENTS. AND ONE OF THOSE CHAIN OF EVENTS IS GOING TO THE
SURETY WHO GUARANTEES? I'M GOING TO SPEAK VERY, VERY BROADLY. I'M NOT SURE,
ATTORNEY THE COMPLETION OF THAT PROJECT, AND IT'S SUPPOSED TO STEP IN AND HELP. WE'VE HAD SOME INTERESTING TIMES AND WE'RE AT A
POINT WHERE IT LOOKS LIKE THE CITY IS GOING TO BE THE ONES COMPLETING THE REGIONAL WASTEWATER FACILITY. OKAY, NOW,
I'VE SORT OF BIFURCATED OUR MISSION INTO TWO PARTS. 
          IN MY MIND, WE HAVE TO GET FLOWS ACCEPTED. AND I THINK WE HAVE 45 DAYS TO DO IT OR LESS. 
          WE VIOLATED OUR PERMIT LAST YEAR. IT'S NOT A SECRET. 
          WE ARE RISKING VIOLATING OUR PERMIT TODAY JUST BASED ON FLOWS. 
          NOW, PUBLIC WORKS AND UTILITIES HAVE DONE AN AMAZING JOB DOING CIP,
CURE IN PLACE, CURE IN PLACE PIPE. 
          THEY'VE DONE AN AMAZING JOB DOING REHAB, TRYING TO ATTACK OUR INI OUR INFILTRATION AND
INFLOW TO REDUCE ALL THAT WATER THAT ENTERS OUR SEWAGE SYSTEM THAT WE'RE FORCED TO TREAT, THAT DIMINISHES OUR CAPACITY AND COSTS US MONEY. 
          THE RAINY SEASON IS COMING. WE ARE YEARS BEHIND,
AS YOU GUYS KNOW. 
          SO I'M GOING TO READ AN EMAIL THAT MR. BOWDEN. 
          I'M GOING TO SET THE STAGE SENT TO ME. AFTER ABOUT 45 DAYS OF CONVERSATION. 
          WE JUST INTERNALLY, I AUTHORIZED THE EMERGENCY PROCUREMENT PROCESS IN CONSULTATION WITH
THE ENTIRE TEAM. 
          AND SO GABRIEL WROTE TO ME JUST THE OTHER DAY,
JUST TO SORT OF SOLIDIFY THIS INTO THE RECORD AS I'M REQUESTING APPROVAL TO PROCEED WITH AN EMERGENCY PROCUREMENT AUTHORIZATION FOR WORK ASSOCIATED WITH BRINGING THE SOUTH
REGIONAL WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY ONLINE. 
          AS YOU ARE AWARE, OUR CURRENT PERMITTED WASTEWATER TREATMENT CAPACITY IS 5.2 MILLION
GALLONS A DAY. 
          WE'VE EXCEEDED THAT CAPACITY ALREADY, SEVERAL TIMES,
REACHING FLOWS GREATER THAN 5.4 MILLION GALLONS A DAY IN OCTOBER 2025. 
          WITH RAINY SEASON APPROACHING IN JUNE, WE ANTICIPATE ADDITIONAL INCREASES IN FLOW AND
ADDITIONAL SYSTEM PRESSURES. 
          AND IF YOU ALSO RECALL, WE JUST DID THAT SYSTEM PRESSURE RELIEF PROJECT BECAUSE OUR
PRESSURES ARE TOO HIGH. 
          SO WE KNOW WE'VE GOT SOME SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGES. WE DON'T WANT ANOTHER MAIN BREAK
OVERFLOW FAILURE. 
          SO THIS SIGNIFICANTLY ELEVATES OUR RISK OF ENTERING INTO PERMIT VIOLATIONS AND POTENTIAL
SYSTEM WIDE IMPACTS. 
          IF WE PROCEED THROUGH THE STANDARD COMPETITIVE PROCUREMENT PROCESS,
WE ESTIMATE DELAYS TO BE UP TO SIX ADDITIONAL MONTHS. 
          DELAY WOULD EXTEND THE PERIOD IN WHICH WE ARE OPERATING WITHOUT SUFFICIENT TREATMENT
CAPACITY AND INCREASE THE LIKELIHOOD OF REGULATORY, 
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OPERATIONAL AND FINANCIAL IMPACTS, AND MAY ALSO REQUIRE US TO SUSPEND NEW METER ISSUANCE. 
          I THINK I'VE MENTIONED THIS ALL TO YOU BEFORE AFFECTING DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY,
ASSOCIATED REVENUE, COMMUNITY CONFIDENCE, COMMUNITY TRUST. THIS IS THE PLACE THAT WE'RE AT TO MITIGATE THESE RISKS. WE ARE REQUESTING AUTHORIZATION TO PROCEED UNDER EMERGENCY
PROCUREMENT PROVISIONS. 
          THIS WILL ALLOW US TO UTILIZE QUALIFIED CONTRACTORS. 
          CATHCART, I THINK, IS GOING TO BE OUR LEAD. GABRIEL WILL CLARIFY THAT ON TIME AND
MATERIALS BASIS, ON A TIME AND MATERIALS BASIS, TO ADDRESS THE OUTSTANDING ISSUES AND BRING THIS FACILITY
ONLINE AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE. 
          ADDITIONAL SUPPORT FIRMS AND QUALIFIED FIRMS WILL SUPPORT THEIR CATHCART EFFORTS AND OUR
OWN UTILITY DEPARTMENT EFFORTS. 
          AND TO GIVE YOU AN INSIGHT INTO THE CALIBER OF UTILITY DEPARTMENT,
WE HAD AN ISSUE WITH RJ SULLIVAN WHERE THERE WAS LEAKS IN ONE OF THE INITIAL RUNS. 
          THEY SPENT 30 DAYS, COULDN'T FIND IT. OUR TEAM FOUND IT IN 48 HOURS,
GOT THEM TO FIX IT. 
          SO OUR TEAM IS CAPABLE INTERNALLY. I THINK OUR TEAM WITH CATHCART,
I MEAN YOU ALREADY KNOW THEIR CALIBER. IN PARALLEL, WE WILL BE EVALUATING POTENTIAL RECOVERY COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE DEFICIENCIES AND THE
CORRECTIVE WORK ACTIONS THROUGH RJ SULLIVAN AND OF COURSE, OUR PROPERTY CHARITY. THAT WILL BE A LATER ITEM TO ADDRESS. RIGHT NOW,
MY PRIORITY CANDIDLY IS TO SIMPLY ACCEPT FLOWS. 
          WE WILL ALSO BE COMING BACK. THE MISSION IS NOT TO WORRY ABOUT THE PARKING,
THE PAVING, THE LANDSCAPING, THINGS THAT NEED TO GET DONE. BUT OUR MISSION STRICTLY IS GOING TO BE FOCUSED ON WHAT DO
WE NEED TO DO TO ACCEPT FLOWS, TURN THE SWITCH ON AND MAKE THIS PLANT OPERATIONAL? SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH
PROCUREMENT, WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, WITH UTILITIES,
WITH PUBLIC WORKS, WITH THE WHOLE TEAM TO GET THE BEST PATH FORWARD. 
          AND WE'LL ALSO LOOK AT PURSUING RECOVERY WHEN THAT IS WARRANTED. 
          SO WITH YOUR APPROVAL, THIS IS ADDRESSED TO ME. OF COURSE,
WE REQUEST THAT THIS THIS BE FORWARDED TO PROCUREMENT TO FORMALLY DISCUSS AND DECLARE AN EMERGENCY AND AUTHORIZE ANY NECESSARY ACTIONS. 
          SO I SAID, DAVID, YES, I BELIEVE WE HAVE AN EMERGENCY. 
          THERE WAS AGREEMENT. SO TONIGHT I'M HERE TO SORT OF READ THROUGH THIS EMERGENCY SITUATION, GIVE YOU THE LAST LITTLE BIT OF PICTURE, HAVE THIS DISCUSSION. OF COURSE,
WE'RE ASKING YOU TONIGHT FOR TRUST. WE'RE ASKING YOU TO EXPEND THE $900,000 THAT REMAINS ON THE PROJECT, AND POTENTIALLY AN ADDITIONAL 1.5 UP TO $1.5 MILLION TO MAKE SURE WE KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO BE SPENDING THOSE RESOURCES WAIVING PROCUREMENT TO COMPLETE THIS
PROJECT. 
          HOPEFULLY WITHIN 45 DAYS. THAT IS, THAT IS OUR TARGET DEADLINE. 
          ONCE WE HIT THE GO BUTTON, WE HAVE NOT BEEN RELEASED YET TO GO HIT THE GO BUTTON. 
          I, I'M HOPING THAT AUTHORIZATION COMES FROM EVERYONE WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS. 
          TEN DAYS. I'M HOPING. I THINK WE WERE ALL EXPECTING TO HAVE HAD IT BY NOW. 
          SO AGAIN, IT REQUIRES EMERGENCY ACTION TO BRING THIS TREATMENT PLAN ONLINE. 
          WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS TREATMENT PROCESS SYSTEMS,
THE SUPPORTING INFRASTRUCTURE, AND EVENTUALLY THE SUPPORTING SITE INFRASTRUCTURE WORK NECESSARY TO ESTABLISH FULL OPERATIONAL CAPACITY,
ENSURE REGULATORY COMPLIANCE, PROTECT PUBLIC HEALTH AND THE ENVIRONMENT AND OF COURSE, SAFETY. THE CONSEQUENCES, WE BELIEVE, IF IT'S NOT HANDLED AT THIS POINT AS AN EMERGENCY,
WE BELIEVE WE DO HAVE SIGNIFICANT RISK OF OPERATIONAL, REGULATORY AND FINANCIAL IMPACTS AGAIN. WE'VE ALREADY EXCEEDED THOSE FLOWS. 
          WE SEE THAT COMING AGAIN. WE BELIEVE IF WE DON'T HANDLE THIS AS AN EMERGENCY AND GO
THROUGH THE STANDARD PROCUREMENT PROCESS, WE'RE LOOKING AT 6 TO 7 MONTHS OF ADDITIONAL TIME. 
          AND WE DO RISK FAILURES. WE DO RISK PIPE FAILURES,
SEWAGE LEAKS, INCREASED PRESSURE, AND THE RISK OF WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RAINY SEASON IS GOING TO DO. I MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO PRAY IT'S GOING TO BE LIGHT. BUT,
YOU KNOW, IT'S PART OF WHAT MAKES FLORIDA WORK, RIGHT? WE GET THOSE INTENSE RAINY SEASONS. 
          ADDITIONALLY, DELAYS IN ESTABLISHING FULL TREATMENT CAPACITY BY BRINGING THIS ONLINE LATER
AGAIN MAY REQUIRE US TO SUSPEND THE ISSUANCE OF ANY NEW METERS OR DEVELOPMENT APPROVALS DIRECTLY IMPACTING DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY, ECONOMIC ACTIVITY,
CONSUMER CONFIDENCE AND TRUST. 
          THIS IS NOT, I THINK, WHERE ANYONE THOUGHT WE WOULD LAND,
AND WE DEFINITELY DON'T WANT TO VIOLATE ANY ADDITIONAL STAKEHOLDER OR PUBLIC CONFIDENCE OR YOUR CONFIDENCE AS WE TRY TO MOVE THIS FORWARD. 
          SO AGAIN, DUE TO THE NATURE OF THE WORK, WE DON'T ANTICIPATE TO GO OUT FOR FORMAL
COMPETITIVE QUOTES ON EVERYTHING WE'RE GOING TO USE ON ROSTER AND AVAILABLE CONTRACTORS AND CONSULTANTS THAT WE KNOW ARE COMPETENT,
CAPABLE AND COMPETITIVE. 
          AGAIN, CATHCART BEING OUR PRIMARY ADDITIONAL CONTRACTORS THAT WE WILL BE ENGAGED WOULD
INCLUDE MEEKS PLUMBING, WHARTON, SMITH, WHO YOU'VE PROBABLY HEARD THEIR NAME,
RAZORBACK CONSTRUCTION, ALL OF WHOM HAVE EXPERIENCE IN WASTEWATER UTILITY TREATMENT FACILITIES AND CONSTRUCTION, HAVE AGREED TO BE MOBILIZED QUICKLY AND AGREED TO SUPPORT OUR
EMERGENCY OPERATIONS. 
          AGAIN, THERE'S APPROXIMATELY $900,000 REMAINING UNDER THE CONTRACT WITH RJ SULLIVAN CORP,
WHICH WE CAN USE. 
          WE ANTICIPATE UP TO AN ADDITIONAL 1.5 MILLION IN COST TO COMPLETE ALL THIS WORK NECESSARY
TO BRING THE FACILITY ONLINE. 
          WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE OUTWORKING OF THE END RELATIONSHIP WITH THE
CONTRACTOR. 
          I THINK AFTER WE GET OUR PRIMARY MISSION RIGHT NOW IS TO GET THIS FACILITY ONLINE AGAIN,
GIVEN THE URGENCY, I BELIEVE, AND THEN END THE EVOLVING SCOPE OF WORK. 
          A LOT OF THIS PRICING WILL BE BASED ON TIME AND MATERIALS TO ALLOW FLEXIBILITY,
IMMEDIATE RESPONSE, AND MAKING SURE WE CAN ADDRESS THIS WITHOUT ANY ADDITIONAL DELAY. 
          SO WE'RE HERE TONIGHT. I'M HOPING THE TEAM WOULD COME UP. 
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GABRIEL AND DAVID, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. 
          I KNOW WE HAVE CATHCART HERE. WE'RE ASKING FOR A HUGE HAND OF PUBLIC TRUST. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO DO, OR I WOULDN'T BE HERE STANDING ON THIS SIDE OF THE DAIS
TONIGHT TO, TO TRY TO GET THIS TO MOVE FORWARD. SO WE'RE TALKING 2.4 MILLION TO GET THIS TURNKEY WITHIN 45 DAYS. YES, SIR. WE'VE GOT THREE MAJOR ISSUES THAT WE WANT CATHCART
TO HELP US WITH IMMEDIATELY. 
          ONE IS SAFETY RELATED WITH SOME GREAT WORK. ONE IS A LIFT STATION ISSUE THAT WE HAVE. 
          AND THEN THE OTHER IS SITE WORK. THE SITE IS IN TERRIBLE SHAPE. 
          WE REALLY NEED TO GET SOME BASS ROCK DOWN AND SOME GUTTER,
SOME CURBS IN SO THAT THE SITE IS SAFE FOR PEOPLE TO BE ON, ESPECIALLY IF WE START TO GET RAIN. YOU CAN'T MOVE OUT THERE. 
          SO THOSE ARE THREE THINGS WE WANT THEM TO ATTACK IMMEDIATELY. 
          WE ALSO HAVE THINGS THAT WILL COME UP AS WE ARE GOING THROUGH WET CHECKS,
AND WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT IN PLACE, TO HAVE THEM TO COME IN AND IMMEDIATELY ADDRESS THOSE. 
          WHARTON SMITH, WHO HAS PHASE TWO, IS VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE PROJECT. 
          THEY'RE GOING TO BE SENDING A REPRESENTATIVE OUT EACH WEEK. AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH IT,
THEY'LL BE ABLE TO GIVE US GUIDANCE AND DIRECTION AND POTENTIAL EXTRA RESOURCES, BUT IT WILL BE ALL HANDS ON DECK. AND WE'LL BE SETTING ASIDE SOME PRIORITIES IN OTHER
AREAS SO THAT WE CAN HAVE STAFF AVAILABLE TO ATTACK THIS, SO THAT WE CAN DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO MEET TO BEAT THE RAINY SEASON. 
          AND SO YOU'RE STARTING THIS IF, IF YOU'LL START THIS AT ZERO DARK 100 HOURS TOMORROW
MORNING. 
          WE HAVE GUYS SCHEDULED RIGHT NOW TO START CLEANING UP THE SITE,
TO MOVE EQUIPMENT TO GET THINGS OUT OF THE WAY, TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR CATHCART TO COME IN AND START DOING SOME OF THE HEAVY LIFTING OF THE
DIRT AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. 
          WE'VE ALREADY GOT THEM ENGAGED ON FIGURING OUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO FIX THE LIFT STATION AND
SOME OF THE SAFETY ISSUES. 
          SO WE'VE BEEN JUST WAITING TO TURN THEM LOOSE WHEN WE GET THE SURETY,
GIVING US THE GREEN LIGHT AND EVERYBODY SIGNING OFF. 
          YOU TALK ABOUT THE ASSIGNMENTS ALREADY THAT ARE EITHER IN PROCESS OR DONE WITH A SIGNING
LIKE KUBOTA AND THINGS TO THE CITY. THAT'S CORRECT. SO THE SURETY HAS ASSIGNED KUBOTA, WHICH IS THE MEMBRANE SYSTEM. THAT'S THE BULK OF THE PLANT THEY'VE BEEN ASSIGNED TO US. 
          AND THEY'RE ALSO WORKING WITH CHIN SHORE, WHICH IS ANOTHER MAJOR PORTION OF ONE OF THE
SUBCONTRACTORS TO SIGN THEM TO US. 
          AND THEN WORKING WITH ALL THE OTHER SMALLER MINOR CONTRACTORS TO HAVE THEM ASSIGNED TO US
SO THAT WE CAN PAY THEM AND GET EVERYTHING DONE THROUGH THE CONTRACT. CAN THIS BE DONE IN LESS THAN 45 DAYS? NO, THAT WOULD BE THE MAX. I WANTED TO TELL YOU 90 DAYS,
BUT HOPING TO GET IT IN 45. 
          A CONVERSATION WITH JAFFE BEFORE, SO. BUT 45 DAYS IS THE GOAL. 
          45 DAYS TURNKEY. ACCEPT TO ACCEPT. SO WE WE HAVE WE HAVE KNOW IT WOULD NOT BE COMPLETE IN
45 DAYS, BUT ACCEPTING FLOWS IN 45 DAYS, WE HAVE I'VE ALWAYS FELT WE WERE VERY CLOSE. 
          IF, IF RJ SULLIVAN WOULD JUST PUT A LITTLE BIT MORE EFFORT AND THEY NEVER DID. 
          WE HAVE DEVELOPED SUCH A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH CATHCART. 
          THEY'VE PROVEN THEMSELVES TO PUT FORTH THE EFFORT THAT NEEDS TO BE THERE WITH THEM ON THE
TEAM, WITH HAVING WHARTON, SMITH WITH MEEKS PLUMBING AND OTHERS. 
          I HAVE VERY STRONG CONFIDENCE THAT WE CAN GET IT DONE IN 45 DAYS AND WITH A COMPLETION OF
90 DAYS I'M NOT SURE HOW THE BITS AND PIECES WILL TAKE TO TO COMPLETE. 
          I WOULD NOT WANT TO COMMIT TO THAT YET. OKAY,
SO 45 DAYS WILL BE ABLE TO ACCEPT FLOW AND MINIMIZE THE RISK AT THAT POINT. 
          LITERALLY, OUR MAIN OBJECTIVE IS JUST TO ACCEPT FLOWS,
TO MINIMIZE THE RISK TO THE COMMUNITY, TO OUR SYSTEM, TO OUR PIPES, TO, TO THE ENVIRONMENT. THEN WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK. 
          WE MIGHT, WE MIGHT SET ASIDE SOME OF THIS WORK AND NOT DO IT EMERGENCY. 
          IF IT'S NOT CRITICAL, I'M NOT LOOKING TO DO THE WHOLE THING AND JUST WORK IT OUT. BUT
WHATEVER THAT MISSION TAKES TO GET THOSE DONE. 
          I WAS HOPING MR. REAGAN WOULDN'T MIND ADDRESSING,
FROM A PROCUREMENT STANDPOINT, THE CONVERSATIONS AND YOUR CANDID FEELINGS, SIR? YEAH, I'M TOTALLY ON BOARD WITH THIS. WHEN I LEARNED EARLY IN MY PROCUREMENT CAREER
THAT WITHIN OUR REGULATORY ENVIRONMENT, WHENEVER THERE'S A LEGITIMATE NEED, THERE'S A LEGITIMATE WAY TO ADDRESS IT. 
          WE RARELY INVOKE EMERGENCIES, BUT IT'S IN THE REGULATORY ENVIRONMENT BECAUSE ON OCCASION,
WE NEED TO. 
          AND ONCE AN EMERGENCY IS DECLARED, AND IN THIS CASE,
IT'S WELL WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF THE CITY MANAGER TO DO THAT. 
          THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS RESPONDS AND THE THE VENDORS. 
          ONE OF THE LAST THINGS WE DO IS JUST CHECK THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE SUPPLIERS THAT WE'RE
IDENTIFYING AS THE ONES THAT WILL HELP US REMEDIATE THE EMERGENCY. 
          AND WE HAVE DONE THAT, AND I'M COMFORTABLE THAT THIS IS EXACTLY THE RIGHT WAY TO ADDRESS
IT. 
          THANK YOU. SO ACCEPTING THESE THE FLOW IS THE KEY IN 45 DAYS. 
          AND THAT'LL GET US OUT OF. THAT IS OUR KEY. THAT IS OUR TARGET. 
          WE'RE GOING TO DO EVERYTHING HUMANLY POSSIBLE. 
          I'M NOT GOING TO SIT HERE AND SAY IT'S GOING TO BE 45 DAYS,
BUT THAT IS THE INTERNAL GOAL WE HAVE IDENTIFIED BECAUSE WE KNOW THE URGENCY WOULDN'T BE HERE. WE'RE NOT YOU KNOW, I'M TRYING TO STRETCH THAT TIMELINE. 
          GABRIEL'S BEEN WORKING ON THIS. THEY HAVE NOT STOPPED WORKING ON THE PRE-PLANNING,
MOBILIZATION, 
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ALL THE STAFF EFFORTS FOR THE PAST 30 DAYS. WE'VE NOT JUST SAT AROUND. 
          WE'VE WE'VE SORT OF SAW THIS MOMENT COMING AND PREPARED. 
          OF COURSE, WE'VE NOT EVER BUILT OR FINISHED BUILDING A PLANT,
BUT AGAIN, WITH THE CONTRACTORS, THE ASSISTANTS, THE INTERNAL EXPERTISE. I'M VERY CONFIDENT THAT,
THAT WE HAVE A GOOD SHOT, GIVE US 80, 85% CONFIDENCE OF REACHING THAT 45 TO 60 DAY,
LET'S CALL IT, YOU KNOW, IN THAT RANGE GOAL OF, AGAIN, JUST ACCEPTING FLOWS, JUST BEING ABLE TO TURN THAT SWITCH AND DIVERTING FLOWS FROM
THE OVER PRESSURED EXISTING WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. 
          WELL, IT'S AN EMERGENCY. AND, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED,
THERE'S NO OTHER CHOICE. 
          WE GOT TO GET THIS DONE. WE'VE BEEN WAITING ON THIS FOR YEARS. 
          LITERALLY UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAD TO WAIT FOR SOME SURETY BOND. 
          I FELT THAT THIS WAS AN EMERGENCY LONG BEFORE. 
          RIGHT. BUT I'M A I'M A DOUBLE THUMBS UP AND I BELIEVE COUNCILMAN HAMMEL WANTS TO SPEAK
FIRST. 
          I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO CATHCART. EVERY TIME WE PUT OUR HAND OUT,
WE'RE IN NEED. 
          THEY ALWAYS COME RUNNING TO HELP US. MY SECOND THING IS WE'RE DOING THIS EMERGENCY. 
          DID I HEAR YOU SAY WE'RE NOT GOING TO ISSUE ANY MORE METERS UNTIL YOU KNOW THAT THAT IS
THE REAL RISK WE FACE. 
          BECAUSE ONCE THE RAINY SEASON STARTS AGAIN, WE'VE DONE CIP,
WHICH IS THE CURED IN PLACE PIPE. 
          WE'VE DONE OTHER MEASURES TO TRY TO REDUCE WHAT WE CALL INFILTRATION AND INFLOW
ESSENTIALLY RAINS, SEWERS, NEGATIVE PRESSURE. IN MOST INSTANCES,
RAINWATER INTRUDES INTO THE SYSTEM. 
          IT DOESN'T MATTER, IT ADDS. IT DETRACTS FROM OUR HYDRAULIC CAPACITY. 
          IT DETRACTS FROM OUR PERMITTED CAPACITY. MORE IMPORTANTLY,
RAIN FLOWS. 
          GABRIEL WILL TELL YOU THERE'S A TREATMENT STANDARD OF X ABOVE. 
          WHEN THE WATER ENTERS THE SYSTEM, IT'S ACTUALLY CHEAPER TO TREAT DIRTIER WATER. SO THE
CLEANER THE MORE RAINWATER WE GET. IT ACTUALLY IS WAY MORE EXPENSIVE TO TREAT THE DISCHARGE, TO PUT IT BACK OUT INTO THE ENVIRONMENT. 
          SO WE DON'T KNOW YET. WE WON'T KNOW. WE BELIEVE THOSE MEASURES ARE GOING TO HELP REDUCE
SOME OF THE OVERFLOW AND MAYBE KEEP US OUT OF THAT DANGEROUS TERRITORY, BUT I CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT THEY'RE NOT STORM TESTED YET IN TERMS OF WHAT THE
RECOVERY MEASURES WILL ACTUALLY BE. 
          WE'VE ALSO ADDED A LOT OF ADDITIONAL USERS. WE CONTINUE TO ADD UP THE NUMBER 700,
YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES. SO THE DEMANDS ARE HIGH. 
          WE'VE DONE OTHER ALTERNATIVE MEASURES THAT YOU GUYS HAVE APPROVED TO TRY TO REDUCE
PRESSURES AT SYSTEMS AND REPLACE CRITICAL LINKAGES OF PIPE BECAUSE THE SYSTEM IS AT IS AT PEAK STRESS, I WOULD SAY. I THINK THAT'S A FAIR ASSESSMENT. WE'RE AT PEAK STRESS. YES,
SIR. SO HOW HOW IF WE'RE AT PEAK STRESS, DID THE UTILITIES JUST PASS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT. 
          LIKE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT WE JUST APPROVED TONIGHT. 
          HOW DID THE UTILITY GUIDELINES PASS FOR THAT IF WE'RE AT PEAK STRESS. 
          IT'S A GREAT QUESTION. AND A LOT OF THE TIMES WHEN YOU'RE SIGNING THOSE,
YOU'RE YOU'RE ACKNOWLEDGING WHERE YOUR SYSTEM IS CURRENTLY AT AT THE PLANT. 
          UNTIL LAST OCTOBER, WE STILL HAD CAPACITY. OCTOBER,
IF YOU RECALL, WAS A VERY, VERY WET OCTOBER A VERY WETTER THAN WE'VE SEEN BEFORE. AND THAT WAS KIND OF THE CONTRIBUTING FACTOR TO THAT. 
          BUT AS YOU'RE SIGNING THE PERMIT, YOU'RE SAYING BY THE TIME THIS,
THIS DEVELOPMENT COMES ONLINE, WE WILL HAVE THE CAPACITY AND THOSE DEVELOPMENTS ARE COMING ON MUCH MORE DOWN THE ROAD NOT
IMPACTING WHERE WE'RE CURRENTLY AT. 
          SO, OKAY, SO DOES THIS GIVE US IF SOMETHING POPS BACK UP,
ARE WE GOING TO BE NOTIFIED? HEY, WE DON'T HAVE THE WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO,
TO DO THIS BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GET US IN A SITUATION WHERE, WHERE, I MEAN, I, I, BY THE WAY, I'M IN FULL SUPPORT OF EVERYTHING WE'RE GOING TO DO
TONIGHT. 
          BUT MY GROWTH IS BASED ON SMART GROWTH AND AND I DON'T WANT TO HAVE MORE STRESS BE PUT ON
OUR SYSTEM, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE AT CAPACITY RIGHT NOW. THAT'S THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO THINK
OF OUTSIDE OF THIS BECAUSE I AM IN, I KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO COME IN AND THEY'RE GOING TO THEY'RE GOING TO KNOCK IT OUT OF THE
PARK, ESPECIALLY ESPECIALLY WITH GABRIEL AND HIS TEAM. 
          AND SO INFILL DEVELOPMENT, WE HAVE NOT THROTTLED YET. 
          WE HAVE THROTTLED SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE NEW,
THAT ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND SAYING, WE CAN ONLY GIVE YOU SO MANY PERMITS PER MONTH. 
          AND I KNOW THAT'S BEEN A CONSTANT STRUGGLE WE'VE HAD WITH THEM. 
          SO SORRY WE CAN'T GIVE YOU ANY MORE THIS MONTH. WE'VE SORT OF METERED THAT BAD PUN,
BUT WE'VE METERED THAT FLOW OUT TO MAKE SURE THAT, TO GABRIEL'S POINT, WHAT WE BELIEVED WOULD BE THE ONBOARDING WOULD BUY US THAT SUFFICIENT
ROOM. 
          SO YES, WE'LL HAVE PLENTY OF TIME. AND CANDIDLY,
I'VE RESISTED WHAT WOULD IN ESSENCE, BE A DE FACTO MORATORIUM. 
          IT WOULD JUST BE A, YOU KNOW, AROUND THE BUT WHICH IS NOT ANYONE'S INTENTION,
BUT BY ME SAYING. 
          I'M DECLARING AN EMERGENCY AND I'M NOT ISSUING ANY METERS OR WATER METERS. 
          WE'RE SAYING WE'RE NOT ISSUING SEWER CONNECTIONS OR ORDERING WATER CONNECTIONS.
EVERYBODY'S GOT A HOUSE UNDER CONSTRUCTION. EVERY HOMEOWNER, EVERY CONTRACTOR IS A SESSION. JUST GOT A A ADMINISTRATIVE MORATORIUM PLACED ON THEM. 
          I'VE REALLY RESISTED TRYING TO OPEN THAT CAN OF PROBLEMS FOR EVERYBODY. 
          AS GABRIEL HAS THROTTLED THE, THE OUTPUT OF OUR CAPACITY. 
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AND AGAIN, I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE IN THAT WINDOW WHERE WE,
TO YOUR POINT, AS YOU ALREADY UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOOD FOR A SHORT TIME IF WE MEET OUR GOALS AND GET THIS GOING AND WE HAVE
A GOOD START TO THE RAINY SEASON, WE'RE GOING TO BE OKAY. I CAN'T TELL YOU WE WON'T HAVE A FLOW PROBLEM. 
          I CAN'T TELL YOU RIGHT NOW. WE WON'T HAVE A VIOLATION IN TERMS OF HYDRAULIC CAPACITY. 
          I'M HOPING OUR CURED IN PLACE PIPE AND OTHER INI MEASURES HELP US BUFFER THAT. 
          BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, ALL THOSE THINGS ARE,
ARE GOOD STRATEGIES WE SHOULD BE DOING ANYWAY. 
          BUT NONE OF THEM ARE A PANACEA TO FIX THE PROBLEM,
THE REALITY THAT WE NEED THIS PLAN ONLINE. 
          EVERYONE KNOWS. I MEAN, YOU GUYS PUT THIS IN MOTION IN THE PREVIOUS COUNCILS YEARS AGO. IT
NEEDS TO COME ONLINE. OKAY. HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION. AND MY LAST ONE MIGHT BE FOR PROCUREMENT AND MAYBE LEGAL. WHAT'S OUR RECOURSE FOR RJ SULLIVAN. 
          YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT? YES. THAT'S FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY. 
          RIGHT. WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THAT. CERTAINLY THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT OF THE SURETY BOND. 
          WE CAME UP WITH A COUPLE DIFFERENT OPTIONS, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE TAKING THE OF COURSE,
WE'RE IN NEGOTIATIONS AS FAR AS AN AGREEMENT THAT WILL ADDRESS THE ON GOING DEFICIENCIES. WE ALSO HAVE RETAINAGE. 
          BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN NEGOTIATIONS. WE HAVE A DRAFT AGREEMENT. 
          THEY'RE REVIEWING IT, BUT WE ARE ADDRESSING THAT. 
          THANK YOU. THAT'S IT. YEAH. YOU KNOW, COUNCILMAN HAMMOND,
TO YOUR POINT, I'M I'M I'M KIND OF TIRED OF THE THE NEGOTIATIONS AND ALL OF THAT. 
          THIS IS LONG PAST DUE. IT REALLY IS. SO THIS A SURETY. 
          THIS, THIS I THINK WE THEY PLAYED US MAYOR. MAYOR. 
          YEAH. IF IF THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO INVESTIGATE. 
          WE ARE UPSET AND WE ARE TIRED BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON A WHILE,
BUT THEY'VE ONLY HAD ABOUT 30 DAYS TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE'VE DECIDED, YOU KNOW, WITH WE KNOW WITH MERIT THAT WE DON'T WANT RJ SELLING AND WHAT THEY'VE MESSED
UP, BUT WE'VE ALSO HAD TO PROVIDE DOCUMENTS TO THEM THAT THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO REVIEW. 
          IT'S BEEN A LONG PROCESS FOR US, BUT FOR SOMEBODY ELSE THAT IS NOW LOOKING AT IT AND
TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THEIR LIABILITY IS AND HOW THEY PAY FOR IT, IT HASN'T BEEN THAT LONG. IT'S LONG FOR US BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN IN THIS FOR A LOT OF YEARS,
BUT AS FAR AS WHAT THEY LEGALLY CAN DO, IT HAS NOT BEEN THAT LONG. YEAH, WELL, I'M STILL FRUSTRATED AND I THINK WE ACT NOW. 
          RIGHT. AND SO THAT THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE. MADAM ATTORNEY,
YOU FIX WHAT YOU HAVE TO FIX. 
          THIS IS THIS IS THIS IS US. WE REPRESENT THE CITIZENS AND THE CITIZENS OF FRUSTRATED. 
          AND SO I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO VENT SOME OF THAT FRUSTRATION. 
          AND THAT'S WHERE I'M AT. SO I'M, I'M AT LET'S GET THIS DONE. 
          I'VE BEEN, I'VE BEEN TIPTOEING THROUGH THIS FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS,
TIPTOEING THROUGH THIS FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS. 
          SO. WHAT ELSE DO YOU NEED FROM US, SIR? I THINK,
YOU KNOW, I WANTED THE ACKNOWLEDGMENT, POTENTIALLY CONSENSUS. I JUST HAD DECLARED THE EMERGENCY ALREADY TO KEEP THIS MOVING. 
          I DIDN'T WANT TO SPEND THAT KIND OF MONEY. IT'S. 
          IT'S OUTSIDE MY AUTHORITY. RIGHT. WITHOUT COUNCIL ACKNOWLEDGMENT. 
          AND HOPEFULLY CONSENSUS THAT. YEAH, YOU'RE GIVING US A BIG LEASH. WE'LL BE REPORTING
CONSISTENTLY BACK TO YOU. 
          DOCUMENT EVERYTHING. I DON'T HAVE ANOTHER OPTION AT THIS POINT TO ACTUALLY MOVE THIS
FORWARD CREDIBLY. 
          THE ORIGINAL PLAN WAS TO BRING THE ORIGINAL CONTRACTOR BACK. 
          WE SAID NO. AS YOU KNOW, I DENIED THE REQUEST FOR RELEASE OF RETAINAGE OR LIQUIDATED
DAMAGES. 
          WE KEPT THAT MONEY. I SAID, NO, I'M NOT GIVING IT TO YOU. YOU'D HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF IN
FRONT OF COUNSEL, WHICH THEY DECLINED TO DO. SO HERE'S WHERE WE ARE IN THOSE NEGOTIATIONS. 
          I WASN'T WILLING TO NEGOTIATE THOSE THOSE FINANCIAL TERMS WITH THEM. 
          WELL THANK YOU. AND I KNOW COUNCIL'S SHARED ESPECIALLY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON BECAUSE WE'VE
BEEN THREATENED THIS NEEDLE FOR A MINUTE. 
          SO YEAH, I THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS UP. THANK YOU. 
          BECAUSE THIS IS THIS IS HUGE. THE FACT THAT SOMETHING OCCURS,
THAT'S OUR PUBLIC TRUST, GENTLEMEN. 
          THAT'S DEVASTATING. AND LEGALLY, WE'LL HAVE TO FIX THAT. 
          BUT THAT'S WE'RE THE ONES THAT WILL BE AFFECTED BY THIS. 
          AND, AND NOT JUST FOR THE TIME BEING, BUT FOR YEARS TO COME. 
          SO I'M GOOD. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YEAH. THANK YOU. 
          MAYOR. I JUST HAVE TO ASK LIKE, HOW COME THIS WASN'T AN AGENDA ITEM? WHY WAS IT DONE UNDER REPORTS? THE TIMING DID NOT EXPECT US TO BE AT THIS POINT. 
          I FIGURED WE HAD A COUPLE ANOTHER WEEK OR TWO TO GET THE BALL ROLLING. 
          WE HAD ONE MORE MEETING WITH THE INTERNAL TEAM AND THE OUTSIDE COUNSEL SEAN MCLIN WITH
WHITE BIRD. 
          AND THEN THIS DECISION WAS JUST REACHED. THE REQUEST WAS MADE TO ME. I GRANTED THE
EMERGENCY. 
          I DIDN'T WANT TO SIT ON THE FACT THAT I GRANTED THE EMERGENCY FOR ANOTHER TWO WEEKS OR
THREE. 
          I THINK WE'RE THREE WEEKS OUT TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. AND SO IT WAS NOT INTENTIONAL
IN TERMS OF THAT. 
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IT'S JUST THE WAY THE TIMING HAS WORKED OUT. AND I WANTED TO BE RESPONSIVE TO THAT TIMING
INSTEAD OF, AGAIN, I'M HERE TONIGHT, I SAID, ASKING FOR TRUST BECAUSE IT'S MOVING FLUID. 
          AND I DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO, TO WAIT THREE WEEKS TO PREPARE REPORTS AND KEEP THE TEAM IN
LIMBO, AT LEAST KNOWING OUR INTERNAL DIRECTION OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO
START CONTINUING TO MOBILIZE OR ICE EVERYTHING UNTIL ANOTHER MONTH PASSES, BASICALLY. SO THAT'S THE REASON. THANK YOU. AND I JUST,
YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS JUST HIGHLIGHTS THE THE PROCUREMENT PROCESSES OF THE PAST, HOW BROKEN THEY ARE, WHY THE LOWEST BID ISN'T THE BEST BID BECAUSE IT NEVER ENDS UP BEING
THE LOWEST BID. 
          GREAT POINT, YOU KNOW, AND WHEN I I HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS WITH SUZANNE,
YOU KNOW, MR. SHERMAN AND MR. MORGAN AND MR. MORTON AND GABRIEL. 
          I'VE BEEN WANTING TO FIRE RJ SULLIVAN FOR SINCE I GOT ELECTED,
YOU KNOW, AND I THOUGHT THE EMERGENCY WAS THEN AND AND NOW IT REALLY IT REALLY IS. 
          AND I KNOW THOSE DECISIONS ARE TOUGH TO MAKE IN THE MOMENT BECAUSE NOW WE'RE SPENDING TWO
POINT SOMETHING MILLION DOLLARS OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, SO, I MEAN, I CAN RESPECT THE DECISIONS THAT THAT WERE MADE AT THE TIME AND
WHERE WE'RE AT NOW TODAY. 
          BUT YOU KNOW, I'M IN SUPPORT OF IT. WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE. 
          WE NEED, WE NEED TO PROVIDE SERVICES TO THE CITY. 
          AND, AND YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY ALL GOES WELL IN COURT AND LITIGATION WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY. 
          I JUST WANT TO SAY I CONCUR WITH YOU. EVEN LONG BEFORE YOU CAME ON THE DAIS. 
          I WAS SAYING THE SAME THING. COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN. 
          YEAH. MR. MAYOR. SO. SO, MR. MORTON, HE ASKED FOR OUR TRUST. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, IN MY OPINION THE REASON THAT I WANTED TO BRING ON A GUY LIKE MR. MORTON WHEN I GOT ELECTED WAS BECAUSE I FELT LIKE WE HAD A LOT OF ISSUES FROM THE
BEGINNING. 
          AND FOR ALMOST A YEAR NOW SINCE HE'S BEEN HERE,
HE'S, IN MY OPINION, HE'S IDENTIFIED AND FIXED, IDENTIFIED AND FIXED, BROUGHT ON STRONG LEADERS AT THE MIDDLE MANAGEMENT LEVEL AND THEN
IDENTIFIED AND FIXED. AND SO IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, GIVES ME REASON NOT TO TRUST THEM,
I, YOU KNOW, I WON'T. 
          BUT SO FAR, MR. MORTON HAS ONLY GIVEN ME REASON TO TRUST HIM. 
          SO I'M GOING TO LEAN INTO IT ON THIS TIME AND TRUST HIM ONE MORE TIME. 
          LET'S GET IT DONE. THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE,
SIR? ALL RIGHT, SO NOW WE'RE ON LEGAL REPORTS. THANK YOU. 
          GENTLEMEN, NO REPORTS. ALL RIGHT. THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.