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[00:00:02]

OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.

IT IS NOW 6:00 PM. THIS IS THE CITIZENS ACCOUNTABILITY TASK FORCE.

MY NAME IS TERESA JONES. I'M THE CITY CLERK. I WILL BE YOUR GUIDE THIS EVENING.

AND I'M GOING TO START OFF WITH THE ROLL CALL AND JUST RESPOND WITH EITHER HERE OR PRESENT.

MR. STEIN HERE, MR. GOMEZ. ABSENT. DOCTOR ADANTE IS ABSENT.

MR. FELIX HERE. MR.. STORY HERE, MR. RANDALL HERE.

MR. BECERRA HERE. OKAY. OUR FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS.

I'M SORRY. WE ALSO HAVE HERE OUR FORMER CITY MANAGER, LEE FELDMAN.

HE WILL BE THE FACILITATOR OF THE MEETINGS AFTER TONIGHT.

[PRESENTATION(S)]

LET'S SEE, WE START OFF WITH OUR PRESENTATION.

UNFORTUNATELY, WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF OUR CITY ATTORNEY STAFF HERE.

THEY'RE ALL AT A CONFERENCE. SO WE ARE TABLING THAT ITEM UNTIL OUR NEXT MEETING.

BUT, MR. FELDMAN, I DO BELIEVE YOU HAD SOME WORDS TO EXPRESS.

SURE. GOOD. GOOD EVENING. GLAD TO BE BACK HERE IN THIS ROOM.

SPENT MANY A NIGHT HERE. MR. BRATTON WILL TELL YOU I JUST WANT TO.

THE CITY ATTORNEY WILL GO INTO A MUCH MORE IN-DEPTH PRESENTATION.

SOME OF YOU MAY BE AWARE OF THIS, BUT YOU ARE.

YOU ALL ARE GOVERNED BY THE FLORIDA SUNSHINE LAW AND PUBLIC MEETINGS LAW.

BASICALLY THAT MEANS TWO THINGS THAT ARE I'LL JUST LEAVE WITH YOU.

ONE IS YOU CANNOT TALK WITH EACH OTHER OUTSIDE OF A PUBLIC MEETING ABOUT ANY BUSINESS THAT WILL COME BEFORE THIS TASK FORCE.

SO IF YOU RUN INTO EACH OTHER AT PUBLIX AND DON'T TALK TO EACH OTHER ABOUT THIS BUSINESS, YOU CAN SAY HI AND BE CORDIAL.

BUT BUSINESS OF THIS TASK FORCE IS OFF LIMITS OUTSIDE OF THIS MEETING.

SECOND IS ANY RECORD THAT YOU GENERATE. IS GOING TO BE PUBLIC RECORD.

SO YOU CAN'T EMAIL A FELLOW MEMBER OR IF YOU WANT TO EMAIL, LET'S SAY, MR. BRATTON ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE PUBLIC RECORD, IF IT'S RELATED TO THE BUSINESS THAT'S GOING TO BE BEFORE THIS THIS BOARD.

SO IF IF YOU WANT TO EMAIL MR. BRATTON ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S HAPPENING IN TOWN THIS WEEK ON THERE, THAT'S FINE. IF YOU ASK HIM THAT WOULD NOT BE A PUBLIC RECORD, BUT IF YOU EMAILED HIM ABOUT, HEY, YOU SHOULD COME TO THIS MEETING TONIGHT BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS.

THIS WILL BE A PUBLIC RECORD, AND IT'S OPEN FOR INSPECTION.

SAME THING WITH COMMUNICATIONS TO ME OR TO STAFF.

THOSE WOULD BE PUBLIC RECORDS AS WELL. AS FAR AS THE SUNSHINE LAW GOES, YOU CAN TALK TO ME AS MUCH AS YOU WANT IN BETWEEN MEETINGS BECAUSE I WILL NOT BE VOTING ON ANYTHING. I'M JUST HERE TO HELP YOU ALONG.

SO I'LL LEAVE YOU ALL WITH MY PHONE NUMBER AND EMAIL ADDRESS, AND YOU COULD FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT TO ME ANYTIME.

THANK YOU, MR. FELDMAN. WE WILL GO INTO PUBLIC COMMENTS.

MR. BATTEN, MR. MORTON. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO JUMP RIGHT INTO NEW BUSINESS, WHICH IS THE SELECTION OF THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR.

[NEW BUSINESS]

OF COURSE, TONIGHT YOU DO NOT HAVE ALL OF YOUR MEMBERS PRESENT, SO I WILL LEAVE IT UP TO THE BOARD AS TO WHETHER YOU WANT TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO THE NEXT MEETING WHEN YOU HAVE A FULL BOARD PRESENT, OR YOU CAN MAKE YOUR SELECTIONS TONIGHT.

AND IF YOU WANT TO MAKE YOUR SELECTIONS TONIGHT, YOU JUST NEED TO NOMINATE A CHAIR AND A VICE CHAIR THROUGH A MOTION.

DO WE WANT TO DO WE WANT TO TRY IT FOR DENIED OR OR WAIT TILL WE HAVE A FULL BOARD TO.

I MEAN, I. I THINK WE SHOULD NOMINATE THE ONES THAT ARE NOT HERE AND RAILROAD THEM.

THOMAS IS ON IS CHAIRMAN OF MULTIPLE ALREADY IS A DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY INCLINATIONS TO FOR A CHAIRMAN OR VICE CHAIRMAN POSITION. I WAS ABOUT TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT YOU AS THE CHAIR.

WELL, I WILL ACCEPT IT IF ANYBODY IF DO YOU DO YOU NEED A JUST A SECOND BEFORE YOU DO ANY VOTES.

CORRECT. WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. FELIX. WE NEED A SECOND TO THE MOTION.

I'LL SECOND THAT. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY I I I. ANY OPPOSED SIGNIFY BY SAYING NAY.

MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. NOW I NEED A MOTION FOR THE VICE CHAIR.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION. IS YOUR MICROPHONE ON? YEAH.

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I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR DONNIE FELIX TO BE VICE CHAIR.

I'LL SECOND. I'M SORRY. WHO MADE THE SECOND CHAIR? OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE.

ALL OPPOSED? SAY NAY. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

MR. CHAIR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE OVER THE MEETING, OR WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO CONTINUE? LET'S WE'LL LET YOU. OKAY. I'D BE MY PLEASURE.

OKAY. UNDER ITEM NUMBER TWO, WE HAVE THE REVIEW AND ADOPTION OF THE BYLAWS.

I HOPE THAT EVERYBODY HAS READ THEM. THERE ARE THREE AREAS THAT I WANT TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION.

FIRST, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE BYLAWS? I DO HAVE A FEW SUGGESTIONS, BUT GO AHEAD. RECOMMENDATIONS.

OKAY. SO ON PAGE THREE THIS WILL BE NEAR THE BOTTOM.

THERE IS A SECTION FIVE REGARDING CURFEW. I HAVE THAT IN THERE IN CASE YOU WANTED TO IMPLEMENT A CURFEW.

IT'S NOT REQUIRED, BUT IF YOU WANT TO DO SO, IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A TWO HOUR LIMIT, THREE HOUR LIMIT, AN HOUR LIMIT, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO DO IT, OR YOU CAN JUST LEAVE IT OFF. BUT I LEFT THAT UP TO THE COMMITTEE.

IS THAT BASED OFF OF THERE MAY BE A LOT OF BUSINESS THAT WILL TAKE SEVERAL HOURS, AND WE JUST WANT TO PUT A LIMIT ON HOW LONG WE KEEP THE BOARD AND THE. AND EVERYONE. AND THEN YOU WOULD HAVE TO SPLIT THE REMAINING BUSINESS TO THE NEXT MEETING OR.

YES, IF YOU DO IMPLEMENT A CURFEW, THAT DOES MEAN THAT ANY UNFINISHED BUSINESS WOULD AUTOMATICALLY CONTINUE TO THE NEXT MEETING.

OF COURSE, AS WE DO WITH CITY COUNCIL, THEY HAVE A CURFEW AFTER FOUR HOURS AND THEN THEY ARE ABLE TO EXTEND IT WITH 30 MINUTE INCREMENTS FOR AN ADDITIONAL HOUR TOTAL. SO FROM A WELL, THERE'S NO HISTORICAL REFERENCE HERE.

SO. DO WE WANT AND THIS CAN BE AMENDED AT ANY TIME.

CORRECT. AND I WAS ABOUT TO SAY THAT AS WELL.

IF YOU FIND THAT, YOU KNOW YOUR MEETINGS ARE GOING LONG, THEN YOU CAN CERTAINLY IMPLEMENT A CURFEW AT ANY ANY TIME.

YES. I'M, I'M GOOD WITH HOLDING OFF. DEPENDING ON HOW FAR PAST THE STREET LIGHTS WE MAKE THESE THINGS, BUT ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS? MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO THE CURFEW FOR ALL MEETINGS SHALL BE 9:00.

I FIGURED THREE HOURS IS A GOOD WINDOW FOR US TO DISCUSS QUITE A BIT.

IN ADDITION, I WOULD SAY SHOULD THERE'S SOMETHING PRESSING THAT WE MUST DISCUSS THAT SAME DAY.

WITH THE CONSENSUS OF THE BOARD, WE CAN EXTEND, 30 MINUTES.

AN INCREMENT OF 30 MINUTES. I'LL SECOND THAT.

I ASSUME MR. FELIX. YOU WERE MAKING THAT MOTION? YEAH. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO PLACE A CURFEW FOR ALL MEETINGS.

SHALL BE. SHALL BE IN AT 9:00 9 P.M. WITH CONSENSUS OF THE OF MEMBERS TO EXTEND 30 MINUTES INCREMENTS AS NEEDED. SECOND.

OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE AYE AYE.

ALL OPPOSED SAY NAY. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

OKAY. THE OTHER ITEM WAS THE THE SECOND ITEM IS THE QUORUM.

RIGHT NOW THE MINIMUM IS FOUR MEMBERS FOR THIS BOARD.

YOU CAN INCREASE THAT IF YOU LIKE. YOU CANNOT DECREASE IT.

SO IF YOU WANT TO LEAVE IT AT FOUR THAT'S FINE.

IF YOU WANT TO GO HIGHER TO FIVE THAT'S THAT'S UP TO THE COMMITTEE.

THANK YOU. I'VE CONSENSUS. LEVI'S IS. YES. OKAY, THEN.

THE LAST ITEM IS ON PAGE FIVE OF THE BYLAWS, AND IT'S AT THE TOP.

AS LETTER C, IT'S REGARDING ATTENDANCE BY PHONE.

THAT IS UP TO THE BOARD. IF YOU WANT TO ALLOW MEMBERS TO ATTEND BY PHONE, HOWEVER, YOU MUST HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM PRESENT IN ORDER FOR ANYBODY TO BE BY PHONE.

SO IF YOU DO NOT HAVE AT LEAST FOUR MEMBERS HERE PHYSICALLY PRESENT, THEN NOBODY CAN APPEAR BY PHONE.

I HAVE NO ISSUES WITH WITH THAT ACCOMMODATION.

ANYONE ELSE YOU HAVE CONSENSUS WITH IT ALSO, DO YOU HAVE ISSUES? YES. OKAY. OKAY. SO THAT WILL REMAIN AS IS AND I JUST NEED A MOTION TO JUST ADOPT A MOTION.

I MOTION FOR THE ACCEPTANCE OF OF PROVISION C AS IS.

I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY. I MAY HAVE CAUSED A LITTLE CONFUSION.

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THAT WAS CONSENSUS TO REMAIN TO KEEP C IN THERE.

CORRECT. SO WHAT I'M ASKING FOR IS JUST A MOTION TO ADOPT THE ENTIRE BYLAWS.

MOTION TO ADOPT THE BYLAWS. BYLAWS AS IS. MR. CHAIR, BEFORE YOU WE WE GO FORWARD. I HAVE A FEW ITEMS. I'D LIKE TO BRING FOR RECOMMENDATION OF THE BOARD.

SEE IF WE WANT TO WE WOULD WOULD CONSIDER TO TO AMEND AS WE MOVE BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE WITH THE APPROVAL.

OKAY. NUMBER ONE. SECTION SECTION ONE. A.

WHICH ARTICLE ARE WE SPEAKING? SO AS FAR AS THE THE SECTION THAT ADDRESSES THE THE TERM, THE TERM FOR THE DIFFERENT APPOINTEES.

SO THE AT LARGE, THE TWO, THE TWO MEMBERS AT LARGE SHALL BE APPOINTED FOR TWO YEARS, A TWO YEAR TERM.

SO WITH THAT SAID MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THE COUNCIL APPOINTMENTS FOLLOW THE SAME TIME TIME FRAME. SO A COUNCIL CAN A COUNCIL MEMBER CAN REAPPOINT THE INDIVIDUAL.

SO WE HAVE ELECTION. THREE SEATS OR TWO SEATS ARE UP FOR ELECTION THIS TERM.

SO MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT THOSE THREE SEATS, THOSE TWO SEATS MADE THE MIDTERM OF THE SO GOES FOR TWO YEARS. FOR INSTANCE, FOR EXAMPLE, OUR TERM LIKE MY TERM WILL BE OVER NOVEMBER 2006. IT WOULD END WITH MY APPOINTMENT WITH MY APPOINTEE, CORRECT? IT WOULD WELL, WHEREVER IT APPOINT ME. SO I'D SAY THE REST OF COUNCIL, THE THREE SEATS SHOULD FOLLOW THE SAME, THE SAME. SO MID MID TERM OF THE OF THAT COUNCIL MEMBER.

FOR EXAMPLE, THE MAYOR'S APPOINTMENT SHOULD BE SHOULD END ON 2028, NOVEMBER OF 2028.

SO THE MAYOR CAN REAPPOINT THAT INDIVIDUAL. MY RECOMMENDATION, IT SHOULD FOLLOW WHERE WE HAVE SOME SORT OF CONFORMITY OR UNIFORMITY THROUGHOUT THE BOARD, WHERE THE TWO AT LARGE SERVE TWO YEARS, AND SO IS EVERY OTHER APPOINTMENT OR APPOINTEES, IF YOU WILL, FOLLOWING FOLLOWING WHAT I'M SAYING, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE BYLAW SAYS THOSE THE MAYOR'S SEAT TWO AND THREE WILL BE UP FOR FOR APPOINTMENT 2029, WHICH I THOUGHT THAT MAY HAVE BEEN A TYPO AND I THOUGHT SO AS WELL, UNTIL I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT THE ORDINANCE. AND THAT IS WHAT IS IN THE ORDINANCE. SO IF YOU'RE WANTING TO MODIFY ANY PORTION OF THAT, WE HAVE TO MODIFY THE ORDINANCE FOR COUNCIL. SO ARE YOU TRYING.

SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS TO JUST TO CREATE SOME SORT OF CONSISTENCY, RIGHT? SO THE AT LARGE MEMBERS WOULD BE WOULD SERVE TWO YEARS.

RIGHT. SO WOULD IT, SHOULD WE CHANGE THE, THE OR I DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS DUE TO AN ORDINANCE.

BUT WHAT I'M SAYING SHOULD CREATE SOME SORT OF CONSISTENCY WHERE IT WOULD BE THE SAME FOR THE APPOINTEES OF THE MAYOR OR ALL COUNCIL MEMBER.

FOR EXAMPLE THE MAYOR APPOINT APPOINTMENT WOULD BE UP NOVEMBER 2028 SHOULD THEY DECIDE TO CONTINUE WITH THAT SAME INDIVIDUAL REPRESENT YOU KNOW, REPRESENTATIVE HE CAN OR THAT GIVE HIM AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO APPOINT ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL. SO THAT CREATES SOME SORT OF CONSISTENCY, THE TERM THAT DON'T EXCEED TWO YEARS.

EVERY SINGLE MEMBER HAVE A TWO YEARS OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE.

WELL, I CAN'T SAY UNDER SUBSECTION B THERE. IT SAYS THAT ALL SUBSEQUENT TERMS WILL COINCIDE WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBER'S TERM.

CORRECT. WELL, THAT STILL WOULD ALIGN WITH WHAT I'M PROPOSING.

IT WOULD STILL ALIGN WITH, SAY, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THOSE YOU HAVE TWO SEATS THAT ARE UP FOR REELECTION DURING MIDTERM REGULAR MIDTERMS, ELECTION THREE PRESIDENTIAL.

SO IT WOULD EVERYTHING WOULD FLOW FOLLOWING KNOW I UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE 2029.

YES. AND I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT WAS IN THERE. BUT YES, WE WOULD HAVE TO MODIFY THE ORDINANCE ITSELF. SO EVERYBODY FOLLOW WHAT YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE TRYING TO ALIGN THE APPOINTMENTS WITH THOSE WHO APPOINTED THAT INDIVIDUAL.

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SO WHEN IT'S TIME FOR REELECTION, THE NEW BODY WOULD APPOINT NEW MEMBERS TO THE COMMITTEE.

CORRECT? CORRECT. SO I THINK AS IT'S WRITTEN NOW, IT WOULD BE A FOUR YEAR TERM.

SO WHEREVER WE GET APPOINTED BY BY THE NEXT ELECTED FOR, FOR EXAMPLE, NOVEMBER 2026, WHOEVER GETS ELECTED AND SITS FOR AN EXAMPLE WOULD APPOINT SOMEBODY, SOMEBODY THAT PERSON WOULD CARRY THROUGH THE FOUR YEAR TERM OF THE COUNCIL MEMBER.

WHAT I'M SAYING IS I'M MAKING A MIDTERM. SO TWO YEARS TO CREATE SOME SORT OF BALANCE TO MIRROR THE AT LARGE MEMBERS.

SO EVERY ALL THE SEVEN MEMBERS WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE 2 OR 2 YEAR TERM OR COULD BE MORE SHOULD THAT COUNCIL MEMBER WANT TO KEEP THAT INDIVIDUAL THAT THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION.

SO MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE FOR MR. CHAIR, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME TO A SECOND MEETING OF THE MONTH, A SECOND REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING UNDER BOARD AND COMMITTEE REPORTS.

AND IF YOU WANT TO PRESENT THAT TO COUNCIL AND SEE IF THEY'RE OPEN TO MAKING THAT CHANGE TO THE ORDINANCE.

YEAH. SO THE I GUESS THE ORDINANCE, THESE THESE RULES JUST ALIGN WITH THE ORDINANCE, CORRECT? REALLY NEED TO ALIGN THE ORDINANCE SO THE RULES WILL FOLLOW.

SO THIS IS I GUESS THE, THE, THE TERMS OF OFFICE.

THIS WOULD BE US TRYING TO DICTATE THE TERMS OF HOW WE HOW WE OPERATE VERSUS THE BOARDS IS HOW DECIDES HOW THE BOARD SHOULD OPERATE. SO I THINK YEAH, I THINK I AGREE WE MAY NEED TO IF THAT'S THE WAY, IF THAT'S HOW I THINK IT.

YOU'RE SAYING. SO IF WE WANT TO CHANGE SOMETHING REGARDING THE TERM LIMITS, PER YOUR RECOMMENDATION WAS TO BRING IT TO THE BOARD TO CHANGE THE THE ORDINANCE, NOT JUST OUR DOCUMENTATION.

CORRECT. OKAY. SO IS THIS SOMETHING SO LEGALLY, COULD WE CHANGE THIS OR FROM A FROM A PROCEDURAL STANDPOINT, CAN WE CHANGE THIS OR NOT RIGHT NOW? NO, THAT WOULD BE UP TO COUNCIL.

OKAY. SO WE WOULD HAVE TO BRING THIS TO THE COUNCIL FOR THEIR.

I WANTED TO BRING UP THE IDEA OF OF STAGGERED BECAUSE OF CONTINUITY OF OPERATIONS OR CONTINUITY OF THE BOARD. HERE. WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, BRING SOME NEW ON AND TRAIN THEM.

AND AS OPPOSED TO EVERYBODY JUST COMING IN AND THEN GOING AND YOU'RE SITTING AND THEY'RE KIND OF AT SQUARE ZERO WHEN WHEN THEY START.

AND WE DON'T WANT THAT. NOW, THIS WOULD STILL DO THAT BECAUSE BECAUSE THREE, THE THREE AND TWO, THEY WOULD STILL MAINTAINING THAT AND AND WITH THE TWO AT LARGE AS WELL.

SO YOU'LL ALWAYS HAVE SOME, SOME SORT OF SENIORITY OR INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE IF YOU WILL, ON THE BOARD. SO BUT FROM THIS, FOR THIS LINE ITEM HERE, THOUGH, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE SUGGESTION NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT UP TO THE BOARD FOR REVIEW AND, AND CHANGE. NOT NECESSARILY HERE.

CORRECT. SO WHAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DO. MADAM CLERK IS TO TABLE THIS PARTICULAR ITEM BECAUSE WE OBVIOUSLY CANNOT PASS THE BYLAW TONIGHT WITHOUT.

YOU CAN STILL ADOPT THE BYLAWS AGAIN. THEY CAN BE MODIFIED AT ANY TIME.

SO AND ESPECIALLY IF THE ORDINANCE CHANGES, THE BYLAWS WILL AUTOMATICALLY CHANGE.

OKAY. AND THEN DEPENDING ON WHAT OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS YOU HAVE TO CHANGE THIS.

I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S RELATED TO THE ORDINANCE OR SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD CAN DO.

I DO, I DO HAVE A COUPLE MORE. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE GOOD.

OKAY. WE'RE GOING BEFORE COUNCIL. SO THE OTHER ONE IS SECTION FIVE IF YOU WILL.

ACTION 245. ACTUALLY, YEAH. FIVE HAS TO DO WITH MEETINGS.

YEAH. SO MADAM CLERK. SO ONE OF THE QUESTION I WASN'T QUITE CLEAR ON IS SO FIVE SPEAKS ABOUT ABSENCES AND VACANCIES. AND THE ASSUMPTION IS THE WAY B THE PARAGRAPH B THE ASSUMPTION IS WE, WE, WE SUPPOSED TO MEET 12 TIMES.

I'M SORRY. ARE YOU OKAY SECTION. I MEAN PARAGRAPH B, SECTION FIVE, PARAGRAPH B.

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UNDER SECTION TWO. UNDER MEETINGS PAGE PAGE FIVE, PAGE FIVE, OH.

PAGE THREE. CONSECUTIVE REGULAR MEETINGS OR A TOTAL OF FIVE MEETINGS.

SURE. WITHIN A WITHIN A PERIOD OF 12 MONTHS. AND AND ONE.

OH YES. YEAH. SO THE I'M ASSUMING THAT WE'RE MEETING 12 TIMES.

IS THAT, IS THAT CORRECT? IS THAT THE CORRECT.

UNLESS YOU HAVE NO ITEMS OF BUSINESS TO DISCUSS, BECAUSE MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THIS BOARD, THE IDEA FOR US TO EVEN EVEN IN OUR BYLAWS TO ASSUME THAT WE'RE GOING TO MEET 12 TIMES, I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S I THINK WE CAN MODIFY THAT FOR A MINIMUM OF EIGHT MEETINGS A YEAR IN A FISCAL YEAR, BECAUSE THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO.

THIS BOARD IS TASKED TO COUNCIL OR IF YOU WILL, ADVICE COUNCIL CITY COUNCIL.

SO IF WE CAN SAY A MINIMUM OF, OF EIGHT MEETINGS, OBVIOUSLY IT'S JUST A MINIMUM WHERE WE, THIS BOARD DON'T MEET OCTOBER FISCAL YEAR START OCTOBER.

SO THAT MEANS OUR WORK IS DONE. COMPLETELY DONE.

AS FISCAL YEAR STARTS IN OCTOBER, WE TAKE OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, JANUARY OFF, AND WE RESUME MEETINGS STARTING FEBRUARY. AND THAT'S WHEN I BELIEVE STAFF START AS WELL.

AND WHAT THAT DOES IS REALLY GIVE, GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, FOR MEMBERS TO, TO PLAN THEIR, THEIR LIFE AROUND THIS. THAT, THAT'S JUST A THOUGHT.

AND IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, AND MR. MORTON MIGHT BE ABLE TO ADD TO THAT WHEN THE ORDINANCE WAS INITIALLY DRAFTED THE BOARD WAS NOT TO MEET YEAR ROUND. IT WAS ONLY FOR I THINK 7 OR 8 MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR.

SO THIS IS ASSUMING THERE'S A BECAUSE THE A CANCELED OR A CANCELED MEETING DUE TO NO BUSINESS TO NO BUSINESS THAT MONTH WOULD NOT EFFECTIVELY COUNT AGAINST YOUR PRESENCE IF THERE WAS A REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING THAT WAS TO OCCUR, AND THEN YOU WERE ABSENT OF THAT MEETING. THAT IS WHERE YOUR IT'S IT'S REALLY UP TO A 12 MONTH PERIOD.

IF THERE WAS IF WE MET ALL 12 YEARS, 12 MONTHS, THE CONSECUTIVE OR TOTAL MEETING NUMBER WOULD THEN REALLY BE AN IMPACT. BUT IF WE DIDN'T HAVE BUSINESS DURING THOSE PERIODS, THOSE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE COUNTED AGAINST YOU.

AS AN ABSENT. CORRECT. CORRECT. OKAY. SO MY, MY ONLY CHALLENGE WITH THAT MR. STORY IS THAT, YOU KNOW, HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO KNOW THAT THIS IS THE TIME YOU'RE ON RECESS DURING THAT TIME FRAME GIVE YOU, IT'S NOT THE SAME AS HOPING A MEETING IS CANCELED, RIGHT? SO TO ME, JUST HAVING PUT IT IN THE BYLAW, I THINK THERE'S A DIFFERENCE.

AND HOPING THAT THE MEETING MAY OR MAY NOT BE CANCELED.

CONSIDERING THE, YOU KNOW, THE SCHEDULE OF EVENTS, RIGHT.

WHAT, WHAT WE MANDATE. I THINK WE CAN, WE SHOULD BE OKAY WITH, WITH A MINIMUM OF EIGHT STARTING WHERE WE RESUME WORK FEBRUARY AND ON KIND OF MIRROR STAFF, I THINK STAFF GOT THEIR KICKOFF MEETING IN FEBRUARY.

AND THEN WE CAN MIRROR THAT AND WORK ALONG. THAT, BUT, BUT IT IS IN, IN THE, IN THE BYLAW WHERE WE CAN PLAN OR VACATIONS OR WHAT, WHAT HAVE YOU. BUT I WOULD PUT ADD, SHOULD THERE BE AN EMERGENCY OPPORTUNITY WHERE WE SHOULD MEET WHERE THE, THE YOU KNOW, CHAIRMAN CAN, CAN CALL AN EMERGENCY MEETING.

JUST PUT THAT IN THERE. SO I, AND I WANT EVERYONE ELSE TO WEIGH ON THIS AS WELL, BECAUSE I THINK THE VALUE I SEE OF THAT IS IF THERE'S VERY LITTLE DURING CERTAIN PERIODS, I WOULD LIKE TO SAVE THE CITY'S RESOURCES AND, AND AND RESOURCES WHERE WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO CONVENE FOR THESE THINGS.

SO I COULD DEFINITELY SEE VALUE WHEN WE CAN'T, IF WE DON'T HAVE BUSINESS THAT COULDN'T WAIT AND BE CONSOLIDATED FROM 1 OR 2 MONTHS.

THE PROBLEM IS, I DON'T THINK, AGAIN, WE HAVE A HISTORICAL REFERENCE OFF OF THAT.

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AND, AND IF WE IF WE DON'T. AND I GUESS THE OTHER QUESTION IS, AGAIN, CHANGES TO THAT.

IS THAT SOMETHING WE WOULD HAVE TO AGAIN, GET FROM THE BOARD'S APPROVAL? THIS LANGUAGE IS IN THE ORDINANCE. SO YES, THAT WILL HAVE TO BE PRESENTED TO COUNCIL.

SO I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY, I THINK IT'S A GOOD CONVERSATION WE NEED TO HAVE AS A BOARD TO WHERE WE CAN, AS A UNIFIED FRONT, PROVIDE A, AGAIN, OVERSIGHT TO OUR COMMISSION TO SAY THIS IS, YOU KNOW, AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO YOU KNOW, TWEAK THOSE GUIDELINES.

DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE A FEELING ONE WAY OR THE OTHER OF MAYBE CONSOLIDATING 12 MONTHS WORTH OF WORK INTO EIGHT MONTHS PERIOD OR IS MAYBE YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS, LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S ABOUT AN EIGHT MONTH PERIOD.

YEAH. OKAY. SO I GUESS IT'S, I'M, I'M LOOKING AT THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET THE, THE MEETING, LIMITING THE MEETINGS. BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT I'M LOOKING TO SEE HOW WE CAN MIRROR THE STAFF.

COUNCIL. DOING THAT TIME FRAME WOULD CONSOLIDATE THE EFFORTS.

CORRECT. CORRECT. IS IT. SO ANY ANY OTHER I GUESS IN INPUT ON ON THAT ITEM.

WELL I AGREE ON THAT. YEAH. I THINK YOU SAID THE BUSINESS CYCLE WE KIND OF MIRROR THE BUSINESS.

BUSINESS CYCLE. YEAH. I WAS TALKING MIRRORING FELIX THING ON THE THE BUSINESS CYCLE HERE SO THAT WE ARE IN LINE WITH THAT. THAT'S ALL. I THINK HAVING UP TO 12 MONTHS IS FINE IF WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ON THE AGENDA, WE JUST CANCEL THAT MEETING FOR THAT MONTH.

YEAH. AND I THINK TO VICE CHAIRS POINT MAYBE TRYING TO INSTITUTIONALIZE THAT, THAT CALENDAR.

SO TO, JUST TO MAKE IT MORE OFFICIAL VERSUS ONE MONTH FINDING OUT THAT EITHER AN ACTION ITEM COULDN'T BE ADDRESSED. AND WE DON'T KNOW UNTIL THE WEEK PRIOR.

AND SO I CAN DEFINITELY SEE VALUE IN THAT. AND I THINK WE WOULD HAVE TO AGAIN RAISE THAT TO OUR CITY COMMISSION TO TO ALTER THAT PLAN.

BUT I, I, I LOOK AT IT AS MORE OF A, IF THERE'S NOT A CONSISTENT AMOUNT OF BUSINESS MONTH OVER MONTH, I WOULD RATHER NOT WASTE CITY'S RESOURCE TIME FOR A 20 MINUTE MEETING AND CONSOLIDATE IT FOR A MUCH MORE MEANINGFUL MEETING. SO I WOULD SUPPORT THAT. I DO THINK FROM A, FROM A, FROM A UNIFIED VOICE STANDPOINT IS IT SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD NEED TO MAYBE VOTE ON AS A RECOMMENDATION OR AS AN OUTSIDE RECOMMENDATION TO OUR COMMISSION FOR, TO, TO, FOR A CHANGE LIKE THAT CONSENSUS AGAIN, AS LONG AS YOU HAVE CONSENSUS NOW AND THEN ONCE YOU MAKE YOUR PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL TO MAKE THOSE MODIFICATIONS, THEN YOU'LL COME BACK AND YOU'LL RE ADOPT THE BYLAWS.

GOT IT. CAN WE. I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. I JUST THOUGHT THAT MAYBE WE WOULD FOCUS ON GETTING THE JOB DONE.

BECAUSE WE HAVE A JUNE 15TH DEADLINE AND ADJUST TO THAT.

AND MAYBE AFTER WE DO OUR FIRST PRESENTATION, WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND MAKE THE MOTION THEN TO SEE HOW IT WORKS, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T TRIED IT. YEAH. YEAH. WE DON'T KNOW. WE DON'T DEFINITELY DON'T KNOW WHAT'S COMING FROM MONTH TO MONTH.

SO DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TODAY OR DO WE WANT TO, TO, NOW THAT WE KNOW AT LEAST FROM PROCESS.

COME TO THE NEXT MEETING WITH A ROUND OF MOTIONS TO MAKE FOR, FOR CONSENSUS AND, AND RAISING THE BOARD.

SO SHOULD WE ADOPT THIS TONIGHT? WE CAN AFTER WE'RE STILL GOING TO PURSUE THE YOU KNOW, PRESENT IT TO COUNCIL.

AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S FINE. I MEAN WE WE CAN ADOPT TONIGHT AND, AND STILL WITH THE WITH THE HOPE TO TO MAKE THE AMENDMENTS LATER.

THAT'S FINE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER POINTS FOR REVIEW? NO, NO.

I JUST WANTED TO JUST TO SUPPORT YOU KNOW, THIS THIS DISCUSSION IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK A LOT OF BOARDS, ACTUALLY MOST BOARD ACTUALLY MEETS FOUR TIMES QUARTERLY, YOU KNOW, BUT PARTICULARLY WHAT WE TASK FOR OR WHAT WE MANDATE, OUR MANDATE IS TO, IS TO, YOU KNOW, SERVE, PARTICULARLY WHEN IT COMES TO THE BUDGET THAT I THINK.

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EIGHT THAT'S WHY THAT'S WHY I COME UP WITH THAT.

BUT MOST BOARD IN THAT IN THAT SAME MANNER. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, NO MORE THAN FOUR FOUR TIMES A YEAR.

SO GREAT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT? WELL, I WAS JUST TRYING TO PUT WORDS TO THE PAPER AND WHOOPS, HERE WE GO AGAIN.

I WAS JUST TRYING TO PUT WORDS TO THE PAPER ON ON HOW TO WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO WORD THAT AND HERE'S MY ATTEMPT AT IT.

MEETINGS WILL OCCUR MONTHLY AS LONG AS THERE ARE BUSINESS ITEMS TO ADDRESS.

SO IN THE EVENT THERE ARE NO ITEMS TO ADDRESS, THE MEETING FOR THAT MONTH IS CANCELED.

AND JUST THAT SIMPLE. YEAH. AND I, AND I THINK, AND THAT IS THAT WOULD BE TRUE WHETHER WE ADOPT THIS EIGHT MONTH OR 12 MONTH OR NOT. BUT I THINK VICE CHAIRS POINT IS LET'S, LET'S CALENDAR THE EVENTS AND I WILL, AGAIN, I'M ALL FOR IT TO WHERE IF WE CAN CONSOLIDATE BUSINESS AND MAKE THE MOST OF EVERY MEETING.

INSTEAD OF PULLING EVERYBODY IN ON ON A, ON A LIGHT NIGHT.

THE ONLY PROBLEM IS WE JUST DON'T HAVE A LOT OF CONTEXT OF WHAT OUR NORMAL BUSINESS EVENING IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

SO I, THAT'S AGAIN, UNTIL WE KIND OF GET THAT ASPECT.

I LET'S, I, I RECOMMEND WE MOVE FORWARD AND, AND ADOPT, I GUESS THE, THE RULES AS, AS STATED, UNLESS THERE'S ANY OTHER DISCUSSION AS THE AS HAS BEEN STATED, WE CAN MAKE CHANGES OR, OR ADDITIONAL INPUT AT ANY TIME AT ANY MEETING. SO YES, YOU WANT ME, YOU WANT ME TO MAKE A MOTION, MR. CHAIRMAN? WELL I GUESS, OR IS THAT THE MOTION? DO WE NEED TO WHAT IS THE NEXT FRONT IF THERE'S NO MORE DISCUSSION ON THE ON THESE.

DO WE MAKE A MOTION TO. YES. I NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND A MOTION TO TO ACCEPT SECOND.

SECOND. WELL. WELL. I NEED A MOTION. AND THEN A SECOND.

SO YOU. YOU'LL MAKE. YOU'VE MADE THE MOTION TO ACCEPT ANY.

I NEED A MOTION SECOND TO. MADAM CLERK, SHOULD WE MAKE THE MOTION TO INCLUDE THAT? WE WILL. THIS WILL GO BACK BEFORE COUNCIL SHOULD GET THAT.

OKAY. OKAY. SO. OKAY, SO TO MAKE IT, I GUESS LEGAL, CAN YOU RESEND YOUR YOUR MOTION FOR THAT? I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE ARTICLES. WHAT'S IT CALLED? THE BYLAWS. THE BYLAWS AS THEY ARE RIGHT NOW.

AND WITH THE THE RESERVATION TO MAKE CHANGES IN THE FUTURE TO MAKE THE BOARD MORE EFFICIENT.

SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THOSE? HEARING NONE, WE CAN MAKE A VOTE.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY I. I. OPPOSED. NO. ALL EYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.

ALL RIGHT. YOUR LAST ITEM IS YOUR PROPOSED MEETING SCHEDULE.

I HAVE PROVIDED DATES, BASICALLY, AS THE CHAMBERS FILL UP VERY QUICKLY.

SO WHAT I DID WAS TOOK THE DATES THAT WERE USED FOR OUR CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION THAT IS NO LONGER BEING USED RIGHT NOW.

SO THIS IS THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR. IT WILL ALWAYS FALL ON THE SECOND THURSDAY OF THE MONTH.

AND OF COURSE THE BOARD CAN MOTION TO CHANGE ANY OF THESE DATES AT ANY TIME WITH A MAJORITY VOTE, BUT THESE DATES WERE BASED OFF OF YOUR BEST, THE OPENINGS AS WERE SO CORRECT.

SO UNLESS THERE'S ANY, I RECOMMEND, IF THERE'S ANY OBVIOUS DATES THAT STICK OUT IN FRONT OF ANYONE.

THE DATES WERE PICKED BASED OFF OF AVAILABILITY OF SPACE AND WHATNOT.

SO SO I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ANY DISCUSSION ON THESE DATES.

IF NO DISCUSSION ON THESE DATES, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THESE THESE DATES.

AS FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE CALENDAR YEAR. MOTION TO ACCEPT THE DATE AS PRESENTED.

I NEED A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? WE'LL TAKE A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE.

ALL OPPOSED? NO. AYES HAVE IT. ALL RIGHT. AND THAT IS ALL OF YOUR ITEMS OF BUSINESS FOR THIS EVENING, MR. CHAIR, IF I COULD. SO WE CAN GET TO THE BUSINESS FOR THE MAY MEETING AS I HEAR IT.

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AND WE'LL PREPARE AN AGENDA AND WORK WITH YOU ON SETTING THAT.

WE WOULD HAVE TWO ITEMS THAT ARE CARRYOVERS FROM TONIGHT.

ONE IS THE DISCUSSION OF THESE BYLAW ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS, WHICH, BY THE WAY, YOU HAVE TO MAKE IT A REPORT TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON JUNE 15TH OR NO LATER THAN JUNE 15TH. SO YOU CAN INCLUDE THE SUGGESTIONS FOR AMENDMENTS IF THEY'RE APPROVED BY THIS BOARD TO TO THAT REPORT.

SO THERE'S A VEHICLE FOR DOING THAT. SECOND, YOU HAVE THE CITY ATTORNEY'S PRESENTATION ON PUBLIC RECORDS AND THE SUNSHINE LAW.

AND THEN I THOUGHT, AND THIS IS UP TO THE BOARD.

YOU'LL BE DEALING WITH A VERY COMPLEX ISSUE OF FINANCES AND TAXATION.

UNDER THE FLORIDA LAW AND CERTAIN PALM BAY REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE PURSUANT TO THE CHARTER THAT I WOULD TAKE THE TIME AND PREPARE FOR YOU AND GO THROUGH A PRESENTATION ON WHAT THOSE RULES ARE AND WHERE THE MONEY COMES FROM, AND HOW IT CAN BE DISPERSED SO THAT YOU HAVE A BEGINNING OF A FOUNDATION OF UNDERSTANDING HOW THE BUDGET HERE IN PALM BAY WORKS.

I KNOW VICE CHAIR FELIX HAS HEARD PART OF MY PRESENTATION IN THE PAST ON THERE, SO IT WOULD BE VERY SIMILAR TO THAT.

AND IT WOULD PROBABLY TAKE A COUPLE HOURS TO GO THROUGH AND ANSWER ALL YOUR QUESTIONS.

SO I THOUGHT THOSE COULD BE THE THREE ITEMS OF BUSINESS FOR YOUR MAY MEETING.

AND IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SUGGEST, THIS WOULD BE THE TIME TO THINK ABOUT TALKING ABOUT IT.

SO WE KNOW TO ADD IT TO THE AGENDA OR NOT. AND FROM YOUR YOUR POINTS, IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR VICE CHAIR TO EMAIL CLERK AND YOURSELF TO INCLUDE IT IN THE NEXT AS A TOPIC TO DISCUSS IN THE NEXT MEETING.

SO THAT THAT WAY WE CAN PUT THAT AS AN ACTION ITEM.

AND THEN THAT WAY WE CAN HAVE IT UNDERSTOOD AND A CONSENSUS AND THEN WE CAN INCLUDE THAT IN OUR PACKET IN THE FOLLOWING MONTH.

OKAY. AND IF I MAY, JUST TO CLARIFY, COUNCIL HAS NO MEETINGS IN JUNE.

OKAY. SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE YOUR PRESENTATION, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE MAY 21ST OR OTHERWISE IT WOULDN'T BE UNTIL JULY.

THAT'S A SHORT WINDOW. RUNWAY GOT SHORTER, DIDN'T IT? WE WE HAVE TO PREPARE A REPORT. THIS BOARD NEEDS TO ADOPT THE REPORT BY.

AND WE NEED TO SEND IT, THOUGH YOU DON'T HAVE TO MAKE A FORMAL PRESENTATION.

NEED TO SEND IT BY JUNE 15TH. UNDER THAT REPORT WILL BE PRETTY SMALL THIS TIME AROUND, BUT IT'S A VEHICLE AND THEN I WOULD RECOMMEND IF NECESSARY, MAKE YOUR PRESENTATION IN JULY.

OKAY. QUESTION. YES. IS IT OKAY TO GIVE YOU SOME INFO OR NOT INFORMATION, BUT QUESTIONS THAT MAYBE YOU COULD COVER WHEN YOU GIVE YOUR PRESENTATION ON WHAT'S INVOLVED IN THE BUDGET? ABSOLUTELY. YOU CAN JUST EMAIL THOSE TO ME OR CALL ME ON THE PHONE AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT.

ALL RIGHT. OR IF YOU HAVE THEM NOW, I KNOW, I KNOW, THERE'S A COUPLE QUESTIONS I WANT TO ASK YOU.

NUMBER ONE, HOW ZERO BASED BUDGETING CAN AFFECT THE CITY BUDGET.

HAS IT BEEN IMPLEMENTED BEFORE? IN THE PAST HAVE YOU WORKED WITH ZERO BASED BUDGETING BEFORE? THAT WOULD BE ONE. AND THE SECOND ITEM WOULD BE LONG TERM ROAD RESERVES.

FUNDING THAT HOW TO GO ABOUT FUNDING IT. HAVE HAVE YOU BEEN INVOLVED IN ANY LONG TERM ROAD LIFE CYCLE RESERVES. THOSE TWO ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO ME.

UNDERSTOOD. YEAH. REST OF US. ANY OTHER TOPICS OF DISCUSSION REGARDING.

ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. WE WERE SO IF THERE'S ANY OTHER BUSINESS FOR US TO DISCUSS TODAY, PLEASE LET ME KNOW NOW. OTHERWISE, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING.

SO MOVED. SO MOVED. YEAH. MAKE IT LEGAL. I SECOND THAT.

SECOND. WE'LL SECOND AND MOTION AND SECOND. I WILL CALL THIS.

MEETING ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. GOOD JOB.

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