May 27, 2026 Sustainability Board

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I DO NOT KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE A ISSUE WITH ON OUR END OR OUR BROADCASTERS IN.

[*A portion of this meeting is without audio*]

[PUBLIC COMMENTS]

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EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. SORRY, I DIDN'T WANT TO INTERRUPT. MISS BARBARA, YOU CAN CONTINUE.

OKAY. AT THE LAST MEETING, THERE WAS A LIST OF PROJECTS THAT WAS DISCUSSED, AND A NUMBER OF PEOPLE SIGNED UP FOR THOSE PROJECTS, I THINK. BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING PUBLISHED ABOUT WHO'S GOT RESPONSIBILITY FOR EACH OF THOSE THINGS.

DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT? I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYTHING PUBLISHABLE.

WE DON'T HAVE A MEANS TO PUBLISH THINGS. SO IT'S KIND OF A PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY THING.

OKAY. IT IS A GOOD IDEA, THOUGH. I THINK WE SHOULD PROBABLY TRY TO COMPILE A LIST TONIGHT.

BY THE END OF THE MEETING, MAYBE DURING THE BOARD REPORTS. SO WE KNOW WHO HAS OWNERSHIP OF WHAT.

YEAH. THAT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE IN THE MINUTES BECAUSE THAT WAY I WOULD KNOW WHO TO CALL BECAUSE I KNOW SOME PEOPLE VOLUNTEERED TO DO SOME THINGS ON SOME STUFF.

YES. AND I DON'T KNOW WHO TO CALL OR HOW TO GET IN TOUCH WITH THEM.

OKAY. AND THEN THE LAST THING IS GLASS RECYCLING, SHOULD I? SHOULD WE JUST WAIT AND TALK ABOUT THAT WHEN IT'S YOUR TIME? YOU CAN BRING IT UP NOW. I CAN COMMENT ON IT ONCE YOU HAVE YOUR COMMENTS.

OKAY. THE STATUS WAS THAT WE WERE WAITING FOR TO GET IN TOUCH WITH REPUBLIC TO SEE IF THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO WORK WITH US TO PERHAPS DO A DAY AT A PARK OR SOME EVENT WHERE WE COULD BRING IN GLASS TO BE RECYCLED AND THEN GET IT TAKEN TO WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE HANDLED.

AND DOUG WAS ACTUALLY ABLE TO MAKE CONTACT WITH THAT PERSON WHO SAID YES, SHE WOULD BE HAPPY TO TALK TO US.

SO NEXT WEEK WE'LL DO MORE. YES. THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY UPDATE ON THE GLASS RECYCLING.

I KIND OF BUGGED ENOUGH PEOPLE TO FINALLY GET THE CONTACT FOR REPUBLIC.

REACHED OUT TO THEM. THEY ARE NOW BASED DOWN IN INDIAN RIVER COUNTY.

SO I THINK WE ARE GOING TO HAVE BE ABLE TO HAVE A MEETING WITH ME AND MISS BARBER AND DISCUSS WHATEVER OPPORTUNITIES ARE THERE, AND HOW REPUBLIC WILL ALLOW US TO WORK WITHIN THEIR FRAMEWORK TO DEVELOP A GLASS RECYCLING PROGRAM.

YES, I THINK THAT'S IT FOR ME. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. AND WE DO HAVE A SECOND PUBLIC COMMENT CARD, MISS JUDY TRUNDLE.

GOOD EVENING, JUDY TRUNDLE, NORTHEAST PALM BAY 32905.

SO LET ME START BY SAYING I APPRECIATE ALL OF THE THINGS YOU DISCUSS HERE IN THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS.

I DO WATCH THEM ON VIDEO, BUT TONIGHT I WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO SEE YOUR ROLE AS A MUCH BIGGER THAN HORTICULTURE AND BUTTERFLIES. TRUE SUSTAINABILITY SHOULD TOUCH EVERY PART OF HOW OUR CITY GROWS AND OPERATES.

YOUR. YOUR ROLE SHOULD HELP GUIDE SMART, RESPONSIBLE GROWTH THAT PROTECTS PALM BAY'S FUTURE 20, 30, 40 YEARS FROM NOW. THE VERY ESSENCE OF THE WORD SUSTAINABILITY.

SO HERE'S A FEW KEY OPPORTUNITIES. WORK WITH GROWTH MANAGEMENT ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE UPDATES.

COLLABORATE WITH PUBLIC WORKS ON CITY PROJECTS SUCH AS ENERGY EFFICIENCY, DRAINAGE, PUBLIC LANDSCAPING, STORM WATER FILTRATION. GET INVOLVED EARLY IN NEW DEVELOPMENT REVIEWS.

BE THE VOICE THAT SAYS SUSTAINABILITY IS NOT AN AFTERTHOUGHT.

IT SHOULD BE BUILT IN FROM THE START. SO OTHER PRACTICAL THINGS YOU CAN DO IS RECOMMEND STRONGER TREE AND GREEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS IN NEW NEIGHBORHOODS. LEARN AND GET FAMILIAR WITH NEW WATER SAVING DESIGNS AND BETTER STORMWATER

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A GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHAT SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED WOULD BE THE RIVIERA DOG PARK.

WONDERFUL IDEA, BUT NO ONE THOUGHT ABOUT WHAT DOGS LOVE TREES FOR, SHADE BUSHES TO INVESTIGATE, INTERACTING WITH THE SOUNDS OF BIRDS CHIRPING AND SQUIRRELS SCURRYING ABOUT IN THE TREES.

PLACES TO INVESTIGATE. SUPPORT. ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND SOLAR OPPORTUNITIES WERE PRACTICAL, ESPECIALLY WHERE IT'S PRACTICAL, ESPECIALLY IN CITY OWNED BUILDINGS.

SO MY CLOSING MESSAGE IS YOU ARE THE BRIDGE BETWEEN GOOD ENVIRONMENTAL IDEAS AND REAL CITY DECISIONS.

SCHEDULE REGULAR MEETINGS WITH GROWTH MANAGEMENT AND PUBLIC WORKS.

REVIEW KEY PROJECTS AND OFFER CLEAR PRACTICAL RECOMMENDATIONS.

BE BOLD AND PROACTIVE. YOUR WORK CAN SHAPE A MORE RESILIENT AND LIVABLE PALM BAY FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS AND BEYOND.

AND I FEEL THAT'S YOUR ROLE. LET THE GARDEN CLUBS TAKE CARE OF THE GARDENS.

BUT YOUR ROLE IS TO WORK WITHIN THE CITY FOR SUSTAINABILITY AND PROJECTS.

AND I WANT TO PASS. I DON'T HAVE A COPY FOR EVERYONE, BUT I DO WANT YOU TO LOOK AT THIS.

THIS IS WHAT THE NEW TECHNOLOGY IS. SO I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO GIVE ONE OVER HERE FOR YOU GUYS AND MAYBE YOU CAN KIND OF PASS IT ALONG.

BUT THIS IS NEW TECHNOLOGY. THIS IS WHAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT.

SO ANYWAY THAT'S WHAT I SEE YOUR ROLE TO BE. AND WHEN I WATCH ON VIDEO, I GET SO BORED.

SO PLEASE STEP UP, BE BIGGER, BE MORE IMPORTANT TO THE CITY.

YOU HAVE THE ABILITY. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

I JUST WANTED TO REFLECT ON THOSE COMMENTS A BIT.

I DO KNOW THAT THE PRIOR MAKEUPS OF THE BOARD WERE VERY FOCUSED ON NATIVE PLANT SOCIETY.

WE HAD A LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE ON THE BOARD WHO WERE PART OF THE CONRADINA CHAPTER OF THE FLORIDA NATIVE PLANT SOCIETY. WHAT I AM ENCOURAGED BY AND KIND OF TALKS TO WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, MR. RANDALL IS WE ARE STARTING TO HAVE A MORE DIVERSE MAKEUP OF THE BOARD.

THE BOARD HAS MORE INTEREST IN IT THAN IT HAS PREVIOUSLY IN THE PAST.

WE HAVE MR. ANTHONY ABBOTT, WHO IS BIG ON THE ENERGY IMPROVEMENTS AND WHATNOT.

HE'S, THAT'S HIS MAIN FOCUS ON THERE. SO WE ARE STARTING TO KIND OF BRANCH OUT TO WHAT WE ARE MORE COMFORTABLE WITH.

AND I DO AGREE WITH YOU WHOLEHEARTEDLY. I DO WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE BOARD TACKLE MORE PROJECTS AS WELL AND BE MORE INVOLVED.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE ROLE OF THE BOARD DO IS START PARTICIPATING IN PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MEETINGS.

THAT WAY WE CAN KIND OF INTERCEPT THE DEVELOPERS AT PLANNING AND ZONING AND SAY, HEY, YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO SHOW HOW YOU ARE BRINGING SUSTAINABILITY TO YOUR PROJECTS.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, AGAIN, I VERY MUCH WANT TO SEE.

I PERSONALLY JUST DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO TAKE ON ANOTHER PERSONAL ANOTHER PUBLIC MEETING TO WHERE I CAN BE AT EVERY PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING, AS WELL AS EVERY SUSTAINABILITY BOARD MEETING AND CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND PLANNING MATTERS MEETINGS.

AND MY LIST GOES ON AND ON, AND I WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE TO DO THAT.

THAT HAS BEEN IN MY HEAD. IF I CAN OPEN UP THAT TIME, I WILL BE AT P AND Z.

AND I DO THINK THAT IS A GREAT IDEA, IS THAT WE CAN GET IN EARLY WORK WITH DEVELOPERS, BUILD THOSE RELATIONSHIPS WITH DEVELOPERS, AND BRING THAT SUSTAINABILITY ASPECT TO THEIR DEVELOPMENTS WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

I DO VERY MUCH APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT UP, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE BOARD EXPAND TO THOSE ROLES LIKE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT.

DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER RESPONSES ON PUBLIC COMMENT? I HAD A RIDE ALONG WITH THEM AND SAW SOME OF THE STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE.

IT REALLY IS VERY SOPHISTICATED AND MOSTLY HIDDEN.

AND I THINK THE HIDDEN PART IS A GOOD IDEA BECAUSE THEN IF THEY IF IT WASN'T, PEOPLE WOULD BE FISHING IN IT.

IT'S THE WATER'S THAT CLEAN AFTER GOING THROUGH SOME OF THE SYSTEMS. AND AS FOR THE. WELL, SOME OF US WERE IN PLANNING MATTERS MEETINGS, AND THAT IS TEACHING US ABOUT THE CITY'S LIMITATIONS IN MANAGING GROWTH.

THEY'RE BEHIND AN EIGHT BALL IN A LOT OF WAYS, AND ONE OF THE SUGGESTIONS IS WHEN A DEVELOPER PETITIONS TO BE ADMITTED INTO THE CITY, IF THEY'RE ON ONE OF THE BORDERS OF THE CITY, THAT THE CITY JUST SAY NO.

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THEY'RE ADJACENT TO. ON THE OTHER SIDE IS MAYBE TWO HOUSES PER ACRE.

SO THEY CAN RAKE IN A LOT OF MONEY. AND PALM BAY CITIZENS ARE STUCK WITH A BILL FOR A LOT OF STUFF THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY FOR.

SO WE ARE ADDRESSING THESE THINGS IN A FORUM AND THERE ARE ONGOING CONVERSATIONS.

IT'S JUST THESE PLANNING MATTER MEETINGS. IT'S A LOT OF EDUCATION FOR A LOT OF US TO LEARN THAT THE CITY HAS TO ACT WITHIN LEGAL BOUNDARIES, AND OTHERWISE THE DEVELOPERS WILL JUST CALL THEIR LAWYERS.

THAT'S ALL THEY HAVE TO DO. SO WE'VE SEEN THAT IN SOME CASES RECENTLY WHERE THE COUNCIL IS VOTING, NOT WHAT THEIR CONSCIENCE OR THEIR HEART WOULD LIKE THEM TO DO, BUT KNOWING THAT THEY'LL BE FACING A LAWSUIT IF THEY VOTE THE OTHER WAY.

SO IT'S, IT'S A CHALLENGE WITH, YOU KNOW, AND A LOT OF FRONTS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONCERNS.

AND WE DO KEEP WE WILL BE KEEPING IT IN MIND.

AND AGAIN, I THINK THAT KIND OF TIES BACK INTO WHAT I WAS SAYING ABOUT TRYING TO GET IN WITH P AND Z AND INTERCEPT THOSE DEVELOPERS, BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO BE WHERE A LOT OF THIS COMES INTO PLAY. IF WE CAN CONVINCE THEM THAT THE SUSTAINABILITY EFFORTS ARE A VITAL ASPECT TO SELLING THEIR DEVELOPMENT STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, HAVING THOSE. I WANT TO SAY THEY'RE NEW, BUT THEY'RE NOT NEW.

THERE'S WAYS OF MANAGING STORMWATER PONDS IN A MEANINGFUL, LOW IMPACT WAY.

THEY'RE WELL KNOWN WITHIN DEVELOPERS, BUT THEY DO COST A BIT MORE MONEY.

SO IF WE'RE ABLE TO CONVINCE THOSE DEVELOPERS, HEY, YOU SHOULD BE DOING THIS.

IT'S GOING TO SELL YOUR, YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SELL YOUR HOUSES FOR MORE BY INCLUDING ALL THESE SUSTAINABLE EFFORTS AND WHATNOT.

I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE'LL HAVE THE REAL IMPACT AND BE ABLE TO REALLY TURN THE TIDE IF WE CAN GET TO THOSE PNC MEETINGS, MR. CHAIRMAN. YES, SIR. SO IN RESPONSE TO YOUR STATEMENT, FIRST OF ALL, AGAIN, I WANT TO ECHO MY MEMBER STATEMENT THAT WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS AND THAT WE VOLUNTEER. I THINK EVERYONE WILL AGREE WITH THE STATEMENT THAT WE VOLUNTEERED, THAT WE WANT TO SERVE THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BUT DO GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF TIME, A LITTLE BIT OF GRACE AS WE ARE UNDERSTANDING WE.

FOR ME PERSONALLY, UNDERSTANDING THE LIMITATIONS THAT WE HAVE AND THEN MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE DO SUBMIT A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL, THAT IT IS ROBUST AND BOLSTERED WITH SUFFICIENT EVIDENCE AND AN ANALYSIS OF COSTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

SO IT ISN'T IMMEDIATELY SHUT DOWN. OKAY. AND THEN WHAT'S MORE, WE WELCOME YOUR COMMENTS.

SO THESE THESE SECONDARY RESOURCES YOU PROVIDED TO US.

THAT'S THAT'S GREAT. YOU HAVE THE STAFF HERE.

YOU CAN PROVIDE INFORMATION TO OR CONTACT AND THEY CAN REACH OUT TO US AND THEY HAVE OUR CONTACT INFORMATION IF THERE IS A NEED TO CONTACT US.

BUT AGAIN, THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE TOO MUCH TO ADD.

AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENTS. I AGREE WE SHOULD BE DOING MORE THAN JUST GARDENING. I LOVE THE GARDENS, BUT SUSTAINABILITY IS A BIGGER, BIGGER TOPIC.

MY QUESTION IS IF WE ARE GOING TO THESE MEETINGS, DO WE HAVE SOME SORT OF OFFICIAL CAPACITY THAT THAT WOULD BE IN, OR ARE WE JUST GOING AS MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC RINGING, RINGING, BRINGING SUSTAINABILITY CONCERNS? HOW WOULD THAT WORK? SO ESSENTIALLY THAT LADDER IS WHAT YOU SAID IS WE SINCE WE DON'T HOLD A CITY ROLE OFFICIALLY, WE'RE JUST CITIZEN VOLUNTEERS SERVING ON THE BOARD.

WE WOULD BE A PRESENCE IN THE ROOM. WE COULD TALK ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY EFFORTS. WHEN THOSE DEVELOPERS COME UP AND PRESENT THEIR STUFF, WE CAN USE OUR THREE MINUTES OF PUBLIC COMMENTS AND SAY, HEY, MAYBE DO THIS.

MAKE SUGGESTIONS TO THEM THAT WAY. AND THE MAIN THING IS TRYING TO BUILD THOSE RELATIONSHIPS.

SO AS YOU CAN TELL WITH OUR ROOM, WE DON'T HAVE VERY MANY DEVELOPERS COMING INTO THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD ON A REGULAR BASIS.

SO WE DON'T REALLY HAVE THAT FORUM TO GET IN THEIR FACE AND TALK TO THEM.

THEY ARE AT THE P AND Z MEETING. SO THAT WOULD BE KIND OF OUR WAY TO GETTING INTO IT.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WITH NO FURTHER COMMENT, I BELIEVE THAT WILL END OUR PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION.

THAT MOVES US ON TO NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER ONE, WHICH IS SUNSHINE LAWS.

[NEW BUSINESS]

AND I'M HERE TONIGHT TO GIVE A PRESENTATION ABOUT SUNSHINE LAW AND THE PUBLIC RECORD.

OH, I GOT IT RIGHT ON CUE THIS TIME. PERFECT.

THANK YOU. HAD TO ASK FOR IT LAST TIME. SO WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT FLORIDA SUNSHINE LAW AND THE PUBLIC RECORDS ACT, WHICH ARE TWO DIFFERENT BUT VERY BUT KIND OF SIMILAR AND IMPORTANT THINGS FOR OUR BOARD MEMBERS TO UNDERSTAND AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE

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AND DO NOT DISCUSS CITY BUSINESS WITH OTHER MEMBERS OF THIS BOARD.

IF YOU ARE NOT IN A BOARD MEETING. ARE PRETTY MUCH THE TWO MOST IMPORTANT THINGS THAT I'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE TAKES AWAY FROM THESE PRESENTATIONS.

SO LET'S GET STARTED WITH FLORIDA'S SUNSHINE LAW.

SO FLORIDA'S SUNSHINE LAW IS THE RIGHT OF PUBLIC ACCESS TO GOVERNMENT.

IT'S APPLICABLE TO ANY GATHERING THAT'S TWO OR MORE MEMBERS OF THE SAME BOARD TO DISCUSS A MATTER ON WHICH FORESEEABLE ACTION MAY BE TAKEN. SO THAT'S WHY I EMPHASIZE THAT YOU CAN'T BE TALKING ABOUT CITY BUSINESS WITH EACH OTHER OUTSIDE OF HERE, BECAUSE ALL CITY BUSINESS HAS TO BE CONDUCTED IN THE SUNSHINE, AS WE CALL IT.

SO BASIC REQUIREMENTS MEETINGS MUST BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

REASONABLE NOTICE HAS TO BE GIVEN. MINUTES MUST BE RECORDED AND IT MUST ALSO BE IN AN ACCESSIBLE LOCATION.

PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO TO REACH. US. IT'S OPEN TO EVERYONE WHO CHOOSE TO ATTEND.

BOARD MAY NOT REQUEST THAT CERTAIN MEMBERS VOLUNTARILY LEAVE PORTIONS OF A PUBLIC MEETING.

IT'S OPEN. SO YOU MAY NOT HOLD A PUBLIC MEETING OUTSIDE OF THE BOUNDARIES OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

AT A LOCATION THAT DISCRIMINATES ON THE BASIS OF GENDER, AGE, RACE, CREED, COLOR, NATIONAL ORIGIN, ECONOMIC STATUS, OR UNREASONABLY RESTRICTS PUBLIC ACCESS OR IN A PRIVATE HOME.

MINUTES MUST BE TAKEN. A RECORDING IS NOT REQUIRED, BUT I DO KNOW THAT WE RECORD THEM THROUGH OUR CAMERA SYSTEM HERE.

AND THE MINUTES BECOME THE OFFICIAL RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS AND NEED TO BE CAREFULLY REVIEWED FOR ACCURACY.

ALL RIGHT, SO BIG AND BOLD IN HERE IS THAT YOU CAN HAVE ONE WAY COMMUNICATIONS.

SO YOU CAN SEND OUT AN EMAIL. BUT YOU CANNOT NO ONE ELSE CAN RESPOND TO THAT EMAIL.

IT'S JUST A ONE WAY THING. HOWEVER, I LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS NOT ENCOURAGED AND DO NOT RESPOND TO IT.

WE MAY ALSO NOT USE ELECTRONIC OR SOCIAL MEDIA COMMUNICATIONS TO CONDUCT PRIVATE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT BOARD BUSINESS.

POSITION PAPERS ARE PERMISSIBLE, LIKE I SAID, SO LONG AS THERE'S NO RESPONSE FROM OTHER MEMBERS.

NOTICE SO THIS IS PUBLIC NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC.

NO REQUIREMENT TO PROVIDE NOTICE OF EACH ITEM OF WHAT'S GOING TO BE DISCUSSED VIA A PUBLISHED AGENDA.

HOWEVER THE ATTORNEY GENERAL HAS ADVISED THAT IT IS GOOD TO POSTPONE ACTION ON ANY CONTROVERSIAL MATTERS COMING BEFORE A BOARD IF THE PUBLIC HAS NOT BEEN GIVEN NOTICE.

PENALTIES. ANY ACTION TAKEN IN VIOLATION OF THE SUNSHINE LAW IS VOID.

NOW, IT IS POSSIBLE THAT IF YOU TAKE INDEPENDENT FINAL ACTION IN THE SUNSHINE IT MAY STAND NO GUARANTEE ON THAT, BUT IT IS POSSIBLE. ANOTHER PENALTY IS THAT THIS VIOLATING SUNSHINE LAW IS A NON-CRIMINAL INFRACTION WITH A FINE OF $500 AND COULD ALSO FACE CRIMINAL CHARGES, POTENTIALLY SECOND DEGREE MISDEMEANOR.

AND THAT IS THE OVERVIEW OF FLORIDA'S SUNSHINE LAW.

BEFORE I MOVE INTO THE PUBLIC RECORDS ACT, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE SUNSHINE LAW PORTION? I DO, YES, MA'AM. THERE IS A SECTION IN THE SUNSHINE LAW THAT REFERS TO COMMITTEES THAT ARE FORMED FOR A SPECIFIC PURPOSE.

THERE'S AN EXEMPTION ON TALKING TO EACH OTHER IN THAT YOU JUST CAN'T COME TO A DECISION AND, YOU KNOW, AGREE ON EVERYTHING, BUT YOU CAN DISCUSS WITHOUT THE PUBLIC THERE, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHEN WE HAD WE HAD A COMMITTEE TO GO TO LOOK

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AND THEN WE WOULD PRESENT THEM AT THE BOARD. BUT IN THE SUNSHINE, IT DOES EXEMPT COMMITTEES THAT ARE FORMED AS A SUBSET OF THE BOARD AND ITS UNDER COMMITTEES AND EXEMPTIONS. OKAY. WELL, I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT.

BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS OF COURSE A BROAD SPECTRUM OVERVIEW FOR ALL THE DIFFERENT BOARDS.

IF THERE'S A SUBCOMMITTEE EXEMPTION I'D HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT BECAUSE I'M NOT OFFHANDEDLY FAMILIAR WITH IT.

YEAH, IT IS IN THERE. I THINK IT'S NEAR THE END, BUT IT'S, IT DISCUSSES COMMITTEES AND THEN IT SAYS THEY'RE EXEMPT FROM SUNSHINE, BUT AS LONG AS NO DECISIONS ARE BEING MADE. AND THEN THAT COMMITTEE REPORTS TO THE NEXT SESSION OF THE BOARD. OKAY. WELL, I WOULD DO THAT WITH HESITANCY, BUT I'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT AS A, AS AN ISSUE WITHIN THE SUNSHINE LAW. IT'S HARD TO HAVE A PANEL TO WORK ON SOMETHING IF NOBODY TALKS TO EACH OTHER.

SO KIND OF LIKE WORKSHOPS, THE WAY THEY WORK.

WELL, WORKSHOP IS STILL OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. YEAH.

IT IS. YEAH. COMMITTEES ARE NOT. BUT USUALLY IT'S BASED ON PEOPLE HAVING CERTAIN EXPERTISE AND WANTING FEEDBACK INTO IT.

BUT IT IS IN THERE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WELL THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? CHAIR? YES. SORRY. I HAD A QUESTION ON HER TOPIC THAT SHE BROUGHT UP WORKSHOPS.

WE HAD SUGGESTED A COUPLE MONTHS BACK DOING A WORKSHOP IN THE PUBLIC TO WHERE WE COULD TRY TO FIGURE OUT THE RULES THAT WE WANTED TO DO FOR AN AWARD THAT THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD WANTED TO BRING FORTH. WE SEEM TO BE KIND OF UNCLEAR ON THE GUIDANCE ON THAT.

COULD YOU PROVIDE SOME BACKGROUND AS TO HOW WE COULD POTENTIALLY DO WORKSHOPS IN THE FUTURE TO, TO JUST CREATE A, A TOTAL WORKSHOP ITSELF. YES.

I CAN LOOK INTO IT. IT'S NOT MY MY AREA OF EXPERTISE.

I MEAN, THAT'S. YOU MEAN SEPARATE OF SUNSHINE LAW OR ANYTHING? YOU'RE JUST WANTING TO SET ONE UP. WE WERE GOING TO HAVE ONE OUT IN THE OPEN.

SO IT WOULD BE OPEN FOR THE PUBLIC WITH SUNSHINE, BUT IT WOULD ALLOW THE BOARD SOME EXTRA TIME TO DISCUSS THINGS BECAUSE WE HAVE OUR TWO HOURS A MONTH HERE IN THIS ROOM. AND FOR DEVELOPING A PROGRAM LIKE THAT, IT WOULD HAVE TAKEN SOME EXTRA EFFORT.

SO WE WANTED TO HOLD A PUBLIC WORKSHOP THAT ANYBODY WAS ABLE TO PARTAKE IN IN THE COMMUNITY ROOM HERE AT PALM BAY, BUT WE WERE UNCERTAIN AS TO HOW THE SUNSHINE RULES WORKED FOR THAT.

AND IF THE BOARD COULD HAVE THAT KIND OF A SITUATION.

WELL, YOU KNOW, FOR AS LONG AS IT'S A PUBLIC MEETING I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO RUN A THAT'S BEEN ADVERTISED AND FOLLOWS ALL THE RULES THAT WE WENT OVER.

I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO RUN AFOUL OF IT.

BUT I'D HAVE TO LOOK INTO SETTING UP A, A WORKSHOP SPECIFICALLY.

OKAY. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT FOLLOWING ALL THE RULES WE'VE GONE OVER THAT THERE WOULD BE ANY PROBLEMS WITH IT.

EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. JUST TO FOLLOW ON THAT, I THINK.

WOULD IT NOT RUN AFOUL IF WE'RE NOT MAKING A DECISION AT THE WORKSHOP? RATHER, WE'RE SIMPLY POSITING OR MUSING ABOUT A DECISION THAT WILL BE MADE IN THE FUTURE.

SO I THAT'S WHAT I'M KIND OF CURIOUS AS WELL.

THE SECOND I WANTED TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE DEFINITION OF POSITION PAPERS.

HOW IS THAT DEFINED AND HOW CAN YOU HOW DOES THAT HOW DOES THAT OCCUR UNDER THE SUNSHINE LAWS? AND THEN I WANTED TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE PENALTY BECAUSE IT SEEMED THAT PENALTY YOU LISTED ON THE SLIDE PRIOR TO THIS, I THINK SAID 500. BUT THE DOCUMENTS I HAVE IN MY POSSESSION SAYS 5000.

SO I JUST WANT TO JUST CURIOUS IS THAT IF THIS IS THE.

MAYBE THIS IS WHAT I HAVE IS OLD. SO SHOULD I THROW THIS AWAY AND JUST FOLLOW YOUR SLIDES? WELL, IN TERMS OF WHAT WAS THE SECOND ONE. OH POSITION PAPERS.

YES. SO MEANING POSITION PAPER I BELIEVE WOULD BE ANY ISSUE THAT YOU KNOW, YOU FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT AND YOU WANT TO WRITE SOMETHING ABOUT TO INFORM THE OTHER GROUP TO INFORM THE REST OF THE GROUP. YOU KNOW, AND YOU WANT TO SEND IT OUT TO THEM, BUT LIKE I SAID, THAT'S SOMETHING WHERE NO ONE ELSE WOULD BE ALLOWED TO RESPOND TO IT.

LIKE JUST RECEIVE IT AND YOU COULD DISCUSS IT AT THE NEXT MEETING.

AND AS WE'LL GET INTO SOON, YOU WILL ALSO HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KEEP THAT DOCUMENT AS WELL.

OKAY. AND I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THE THIRD QUESTION? THE PENALTY AMOUNT? YOU SAID 500, I THINK ON THE SLIDE PRIOR TO THIS.

BUT THE SUNSHINE DOCUMENTS THAT I HAVE IS FIVE, 5000.

SO I WANT TO KNOW IF THIS IS OLD AND I SHOULD JUST FOLLOW YOURS.

OKAY. WELL I'LL LOOK AND SEE IF THERE'S BEEN A CHANGE TO THE AMOUNT.

THAT'S QUITE A JUMP. BUT WHEN I WROTE THIS AT LEAST IT WAS 500.

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ULTIMATELY YOU DON'T WANT TO BE PAYING 500 OR 5000.

SO, BUT I'LL MAKE SURE THAT IT'S UP TO DATE ON THAT ONE.

THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE? ALL RIGHT. I THINK WE'RE GOOD.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO FLORIDA'S PUBLIC RECORDS ACT.

EVERY PERSON WHO HAS CUSTODY OF A PUBLIC RECORD SHALL PERMIT THE RECORD TO BE INSPECTED AND COPIED BY ANY PERSON DESIRING TO DO SO.

AT ANY REASONABLE TIME, UNDER REASONABLE CIRCUMSTANCES AND UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE CUSTODIAN OF PUBLIC RECORDS OR THE CUSTODIANS DESIGNEE THAT IS FROM FLORIDA STATUTES.

FLORIDA'S PUBLIC RECORDS ACT IS EXTREMELY BROAD.

THERE IS VERY LITTLE THAT IS EXEMPT FROM IT. IT'S EXEMPT FROM IT IS USUALLY THINGS LIKE SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS AND VICTIM CRIME VICTIM INFORMATION TO A CERTAIN EXTENT.

AND YOU KNOW, THE ADDRESSES OF JUDGES AND POLICE OFFICERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

ALMOST EVERY OTHER PUBLIC RECORD OR ALMOST EVERY OTHER DOCUMENT IS A PUBLIC RECORD.

SO PUBLIC RECORDS INCLUDE, BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO, RECORDS, DOCUMENTS AND NOTES OBTAINED OR TAKEN BY MEMBERS OF APPOINTED BOARDS, CORRESPONDENCE PREPARED OR RECEIVED BY MEMBERS OF BOARDS, TEXT MESSAGES, EMAILS, FACEBOOK, INSTAGRAM, REDDIT, YOUTUBE. ANY OTHER SOCIAL MEDIA THAT I HAVE NO IDEA EXISTS AND ANYTHING THAT ARE RELATED TO OFFICIAL CITY BUSINESS. PUBLIC RECORDS INCLUDE ALL DOCUMENTS, REGARDLESS OF PHYSICAL FORM, CHARACTERISTICS OR MEANS OF TRANSMISSION MADE OR RECEIVED PURSUANT TO LAW IN CONNECTION WITH THE BOARD'S OFFICIAL BUSINESS THAT IS USED TO PERPETUATE, COMMUNICATE OR FORMALIZE KNOWLEDGE, IT'S PKF.

WE HAVE A RECORDS MANAGEMENT POLICY AND PROCEDURE THAT IMPLEMENTS THE ESTABLISHED RETENTION SCHEDULES FOR DOCUMENTS.

THE GOAL OF THAT THOSE PROCEDURES IS TO BALANCE THE NEED TO MANAGE THE PUBLIC RECORDS AND ACCESS THEM ALONG WITH THE PUBLIC'S RIGHT TO REVIEW RECORDS ON A TIME ON TIMELY ISSUES. THE CITY'S CLERK'S OFFICE MAINTAINS AN UP TO DATE SCHEDULE FOR RETENTION.

AND THEY SHOULD BE CONSULTED ON ANY RETENTION MATTERS.

ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATIONS. THESE ARE EMAILS AND TEXT MESSAGES MADE OR RECEIVED BY ANY PUBLIC OFFICERS OR EMPLOYEES IN CONNECTION WITH OFFICIAL BUSINESS.

AND PUBLIC RECORDS AND PUBLIC RECORDS AND SUBJECT TO DISCLOSURE IN THE ABSENCE OF ANY STATUTORY EXEMPTION.

IT'S THERE'S IT'S NOT PUBLIC RECORDS. OH. PERSONAL NOTES.

SO PERSONAL NOTES ARE NOT PUBLIC RECORDS. THE NOTES HAVE NOT BEEN TRANSCRIBED OR SHOWN TO OTHERS AND WERE NOT USED TO PCEF KNOWLEDGE.

THERE IS NO UNFINISHED BUSINESS EXEMPTION. AND IF A DOCUMENT IS PREPARED IN CONNECTION WITH OFFICIAL BUSINESS AND ITS PURPOSE IS TO PCEF KNOWLEDGE, THEN THE DOCUMENT IS A PUBLIC RECORD.

AND I'D JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT, YOU KNOW, HOW BROAD THIS IS.

THIS IS GOING TO INCLUDE ANYTHING, INCLUDING FROM YOUR CELL PHONE, YOUR PERSONAL CELL PHONE.

IF YOU TALK ABOUT CITY BUSINESS ON YOUR PERSONAL CELL PHONE, PERSONAL DEVICES, THAT'S GOING TO BE INCLUDED AS A PUBLIC RECORDS AS WELL.

IN A PREVIOUS JOB I HAD WITH THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

I HAD THE MISFORTUNE TO HAVE TO COMMUNICATE WITH A CLIENT IN AN EMERGENCY FROM MY PERSONAL CELL PHONE, AND THAT CLIENT CONTINUED TO TEXT ME THROUGHOUT THE PENDENCY OF THEIR CASE.

AND WHEN I LEFT THAT JOB, I HAD TO SCREENSHOT ALL THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND TURN THEM OVER TO MY SUPERVISOR FOR RETENTION.

SO JUST BECAUSE IT HAPPENS ON YOUR PERSONAL CELL PHONE DOESN'T REMOVE IT FROM PUBLIC RECORDS EXEMPTIONS.

RESPONDING TO A REQUEST YOU NEED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE RECEIPT OF THE REQUEST WITHIN 24 HOURS IN WRITING AND ALERT THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.

THE PERSON REQUESTING IS NOT REQUIRED TO DISCLOSE THEIR NAME, THEIR PURPOSE, OR EVEN TO MAKE THE REQUEST IN WRITING.

YOU MUST DILIGENTLY DETERMINE WHO POSSESSES THE REQUESTED DOCUMENTS.

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TO FIND DOCUMENTS THAT ARE RESPONSIVE. AND THE CITY IS ALSO ALLOWED TO CHARGE A REASONABLE PRICE FOR COPYING AND LABOR COSTS RELATED TO A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST. EXEMPTIONS. AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE MOST COMMON EXEMPTIONS ARE SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS, PERSONAL INFORMATION OF POLICE OFFICERS, JUDGES, ETC., AND THEIR FAMILIES AND CERTAIN VICTIMS OF CRIMES EXEMPT RECORDS. IF A CUSTODIAN BELIEVES THAT A RECORD OR PART OF A RECORD IS EXEMPT YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING YOU PROBABLY WANT TO TAKE UP WITH US WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO FIND THE BASIS FOR THAT EXEMPTION.

AND WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO STATE IN WRITING THE PARTICULARITY FOR THE THE REASONS WHY SOMETHING MIGHT BE EXEMPT FROM INSPECTION.

AND LIKE I'VE MENTIONED, I'D LIKE TO EMPHASIZE THERE ARE VERY FEW ITEMS THAT ARE EXEMPT.

A PRIVATE PARTY CANNOT RENDER PUBLIC RECORDS EXEMPT BY LABELING THEM CONFIDENTIAL.

AND A PUBLIC RECORD CANNOT BE TRANSFORMED INTO A PRIVATE RECORD, BECAUSE A GOVERNMENT ENTITY HAS PROMISED THAT IT WILL BE KEPT PRIVATE.

ONE OF THE THINGS I LOOK FOR WHEN I REVIEW CONTRACTS THAT THE CITY IS ENTERING INTO IS IF THERE'S SOME KIND OF CLAUSE THAT SAYS THE CITY WILL KEEP THIS INFORMATION CONFIDENTIAL. AND I USUALLY HAVE TO WRITE THAT CONTRACT THE OTHER PARTY BACK AND SAY, IF YOU WANT SOMETHING KEPT CONFIDENTIAL, DON'T SEND IT TO US. BECAUSE ONCE WE RECEIVE IT, IT'S GOING TO BE PUBLIC RECORD.

FEDERAL LAW SUPERSEDES FLORIDA LAW. IF A FEDERAL STATUTE REQUIRES CONFIDENTIALITY, THEN THOSE RECORDS REMAIN CONFIDENTIAL AND MUST NOT BE PRODUCED.

THAT HAS COME UP ABOUT ZERO TIMES SINCE I'VE WORKED HERE.

SO IT IS OUT THERE, BUT IT DOES NOT HAPPEN MUCH.

CONSEQUENCES OF NONCOMPLIANCE WITH THIS. WITH THE.

THE PUBLIC RECORDS INCLUDES CRIMINAL PENALTIES, NON-CRIMINAL INFRACTIONS, POTENTIAL REMOVAL FROM OFFICE ATTORNEY'S FEES, CIVIL ACTIONS, INJUNCTIVE RELIEF, CORRECTIVE ACTION, AND DAMAGES.

THERE'S A LOT POTENTIALLY FOR THIS DEPENDING ON WHAT HAPPENS AND WHAT THE SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES ARE.

CIVIL PENALTIES. HOW THIS USUALLY I CALL THIS CIVIL PENALTIES, BUT THIS IS USUALLY JUST HOW WE GO THROUGH.

IF THERE'S AN ISSUE PRODUCING PUBLIC RECORDS THE PERSON IS ENTITLED TO AN IMMEDIATE HEARING WRIT TO COMPEL PERFORMANCE AN INJUNCTION PREVENTING NONPERFORMANCE AND THE SUBSEQUENT PRODUCTION OF DOCUMENTS.

COURT WILL ORDER A 48 HOUR COMPLIANCE. SO IT'S A PRETTY QUICK TURNAROUND IF THAT HAPPENS AND THE PERSON IS ENTITLED TO FEES AND COSTS.

AND CRIMINAL PENALTIES. AGAIN FOR YOU TO RUN AFOUL OF THIS, IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE SOMETHING I WOULD IMAGINE PRETTY SEVERE.

BUT A PUBLIC OFFICER WHO KNOWINGLY VIOLATES THESE PROVISIONS IS SUBJECT TO SUSPENSION REMOVAL OR IMPEACHMENT, AND COULD BE FOUND GUILTY OF A MISDEMEANOR OF THE FIRST DEGREE, WHICH IS PUNISHED BY UP TO A YEAR IN JAIL OR A $1,000 FINE, OR BOTH. SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT YOU KNOW, EITHER PUBLIC RECORDS OR SUNSHINE LAW IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE MEETING, YOU NEED TO ASK YOURSELF, WAS THIS MEETING SET UP ACCORDING TO ALL OF THE PUBLIC MEETING REQUIREMENTS? IF YOU'RE ENGAGING IN COMMUNICATIONS, YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT DOES IT LOOK LIKE YOU'RE ENGAGED IN IMPROPER COMMUNICATION? YOU NEED TO ASK YOURSELF IF YOU'VE PROVIDED ALL OF THE INTERESTED PARTIES OF THE PUBLIC AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD.

AND ALSO EXPLAIN IF YOU'VE EXPLAINED YOURSELF SUFFICIENTLY SO THAT PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND THE DECISION THAT YOU'RE REACHING IN THE SUNSHINE.

AND THAT CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE PUBLIC RECORDS ACT OR ON THE OR ANYTHING ELSE WE'VE GONE OVER? MR. CHAIRMAN? YES, SIR.

PERHAPS THIS MIGHT BE COVERED UNDER THESE TWO ACTS. IF IT'S NOT, THEN PLEASE DISREGARD MY INQUIRY AS REGARDS TO APPROACHING THE THIRD PARTY IN ORDER TO HAVE THEM PROVIDE US WITH INFORMATION.

US MEANING THE BOARD INFORMATION THAT WE NEED TO FULFILL OUR DUTIES.

WELL, WHAT WILL MORE LIKELY HAPPEN IN YOUR CASE IS THAT SOMEBODY WILL EITHER SEND YOU PERHAPS A REQUEST FOR PUBLIC RECORDS.

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OR IN THE ALTERNATIVE, THE THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE MAY YOU KNOW, OR CITY CLERK'S OFFICE, THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE WILL REACH OUT TO YOU AND ASK YOU FOR THOSE DOCUMENTS SPECIFICALLY.

I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT WHAT I'M ASKING IS THE OTHER WAY AROUND.

SO IF I, AS A MEMBER OF THE BOARD, IS TRYING TO DO OUTREACH.

I KNOW THAT WE HAVE SOME LIMITATIONS AND WE DON'T WANT TO REPRESENT THE CITY OF PALM BAY OR CITY COUNCIL.

SO I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S THE PROPER WAY TO DO THAT.

AND I WANTED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF YOUR PRESENCE HERE WITH US TODAY. YOU MEAN YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST? NO. I WOULD LIKE A REQUEST. I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST A THIRD PARTY TO COME TO THE BOARD TO DISCUSS A MATTER THAT PERTAINS TO A FUTURE MEETING.

SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF I WANTED A THIRD PARTY TO DISCUSS NATIVE PLANTS PER SE, AND WE WERE GOING TO TALK ABOUT NATIVE PLANTS IN THE AUGUST MEETING, AND THIS PERSON IS AN EXPERT ON NATIVE PLANTS, ETC..

IS THERE BESIDES ME JUST GOING TO THEM? IS AM I PRECLUDED FROM DOING SO? AND IF I DO HAVE TO APPROACH THEM, IS THERE A PROPER WAY TO DO SO? AND IF SO, HOW? OKAY. NO, YOU COULD INVITE THEM.

YOU COULD REACH OUT TO THAT PERSON SPECIFICALLY AND INVITE THEM TO COME TALK AT THE AT THE MEETING.

NOW, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING NOW. YEAH.

IF YOU WANT AN EXPERT TO COME IN IF THERE'S SOMEONE YOU MEET AND YOU'RE INTERESTED IN HAVING THEM, YOU KNOW, COME TO TALK TO THE CITY BOARD TO YOUR BOARD HERE YEAH, YOU CAN JUST PERSONALLY INVITE THEM.

AND WOULD SOMETHING LIKE THAT FALL UNDER A POTENTIAL PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST IN THE FUTURE? NOT THAT I'M SUPER CONCERNED ABOUT THAT, BUT IF WE WERE TO REACH OUT TO A THIRD PARTY AND SAY, HEY, WOULD YOU COME TO THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD? COULD THAT BE A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST? THAT CONVERSATION BETWEEN US AND THAT INDIVIDUAL, IF YOU EMAIL THEM OR WRITE THEM A LETTER OR WHAT HAVE YOU? I WAS WONDERING IF WE'D HAVE TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA TO HAVE THE SPEAKER IF WE HAVE TO HAVE IT PROPOSED AT ONE MEETING AND THEN GET IT TO GET IT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT MEETING UNDER ROBERT'S RULES, OR UNLESS THEY'RE JUST A PUBLIC SPEAKER FOR THE THREE MINUTE LIMIT AS A.

YEAH, I BELIEVE IN THAT SITUATION FOR THE PRESENTATION. IF WE DID WANT TO HAVE THEM COME UP AND DO A FULL PRESENTATION, WE WOULD HAVE TO ADD THEM TO THE AGENDA THROUGH A MOTION ON THE BOARD, RIGHT, SO THAT THE PUBLIC COULD UNDERSTAND AND BE THERE AHEAD OF TIME.

THEY'D HAVE TO BE IN THE POSTED AGENDA. YEP. ALL RIGHT.

WELL, THANK YOU ALL. FOR LISTENING. AND I HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.

I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND PROVIDING YOUR GUIDANCE FOR US.

THANK YOU. WITH NO FURTHER COMMENT, WE WILL MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS THE RAIN BARREL PROGRAM.

I BELIEVE THIS WAS ADDED TO THE AGENDA LAST MONTH.

ALL RIGHT. I WASN'T SURE IF I WAS SUPPOSED TO PREPARE TALKING POINTS OR IF WHAT WAS GOING ON.

BUT I DO HAVE TALKING POINTS, SO I, I WENT AND LOOKED TO SEE IF WE HAD ANY RAIN BARREL PROGRAMS IN THE PAST, AND I DID SEE THAT WE HAD THE ANNUAL SUSTAINABILITY FAIR THAT WE HAD FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS WHERE WE WERE PROVIDING A CLASS FOR THE RAIN BARREL PROGRAM. MY UNDERSTANDING IS BUDGET CUTS TOOK THAT AWAY FROM US AND WE HAVEN'T DONE THE FAIR IN A COUPLE YEARS.

I WAS WONDERING IF THAT WAS A SUCCESSFUL EVENT.

I'M NOT I KNOW THAT'S NOT EXACTLY PERTAINING SPECIFICALLY TO THE RAIN BARRELS, BUT SINCE IT WAS THERE, I WAS WONDERING IF WE HAVE ANY DATA ON HOW MANY RAIN BARRELS WERE GIVEN OUT, IF IT WAS SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY DID INDEED WANT.

AND THEN BEYOND THAT, I WAS LOOKING TO SEE HOW OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE RUNNING RAIN BARREL PROGRAMS. AND I WAS ABLE TO FIND A FEW POTENTIAL PARTNERS THAT WE COULD REACH OUT TO, AS WELL AS MAYBE SOME POTENTIAL HOSTS TO HOST AN EVENT FOR RAIN BARREL CLASS.

IT LOOKS LIKE THE OTHER CITIES ARE MOSTLY PROVIDING REBATES.

SO IT WOULD BE THE PUBLIC WOULD PURCHASE THEIR OWN RAIN BARREL AND THEN THROUGH MAIL IN REBATES, THOSE CITIES SUCH AS MELBOURNE, INDIAN HARBOR BEACH, INDIALANTIC, CAPE CANAVERAL, THEY HAVE SOME REBATES.

I THINK CAPE CANAVERAL SPECIFICALLY WAS DOING AN ADOPT A RAIN BARREL PROGRAM. I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S ANOTHER ROUTE WE WANT TO LOOK INTO WHERE WE MAYBE HAVE LIKE SO MANY RAIN BARRELS ON HAND AND WE HAVE THEM ADOPTED OUT AND SEE HOW LIKE AS A VENTURE PROGRAM TO SEE LIKE, DOES A RAINBOW WORK ON YOUR PROPERTY.

AND THEN MAYBE IF THEY LIKE IT, THEN THEY PURCHASE THE RAIN BARREL. SO IT'S NOT LIKE A UPFRONT COST TO FAMILIES WHO MAY BE JUST ON THE FENCE ABOUT IT.

AND THEN LET'S SEE, THERE'S MALABAR OFFERED A FREE CLASS AND THE BARREL.

SO I'M JUST NOT SURE. I THINK THE FUNDING FOR THAT CAME THROUGH THE US EPA.

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BUT WE ALSO HAVE THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL. OH, I ALREADY SAID THAT THE EPA UF IFAS EXTENSION.

THEY'RE ALSO INVOLVED IN SOME OF THE OTHER COMMUNITIES PROGRAMING THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT ACADEMY.

I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO LOOK INTO THAT, BUT I DID SEE THAT ON SOME OF THE MARKETING FOR I THINK IT WAS MELBOURNE OR BREVARD COUNTY, SORRY. AND THEN THE GREEN SPACE WATER ALLIANCE IS VERY MUCH INVOLVED IN THIS.

SO THAT WOULD BE OUR OTHER TOP, TOP RESOURCE FOR GETTING SOME FUNDING FOR IT.

THEN AS FAR AS HOSTING PLACES GO, I WAS THINKING MAYBE THE MARINE RESOURCE COUNCIL, THAT LAGOON HOUSE WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD SPOT.

TO, TO DO THAT. I KNOW THAT THEY'VE HOSTED RAIN BARREL WORKSHOPS IN THE PAST THERE OR POTENTIALLY TURKEY CREEK WITH THE PORT MALABAR LIBRARY OR THE PALM BAY LIBRARY RIGHT THERE. COULD BE A GOOD PLACE AS WELL. YEAH. A COUPLE, 2 OR 3 YEARS AGO, I THINK THEY WERE GIVING THEM AWAY FOR FREE AND THERE WERE MORE THAN 20 AND THEY ALL WENT.

OKAY. THEN I THINK IT WAS LAST YEAR THEY DECIDED TO CHARGE PEOPLE FOR THEM.

I, I DON'T KNOW, LIKE IF THERE WAS A RULE CHANGE.

I REMEMBER BACK IN HIGH SCHOOL, I WAS LOOKING INTO THIS AND I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT IT WAS ILLEGAL TO HAVE RAIN BARRELS TO COLLECT RAINWATER. SOMEONE HAD TOLD ME THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS TRUE OR NOT. SO THEN WHEN I SAW THIS, I WAS VERY, VERY EXCITED TO SEE THAT THE CITY OF PALM BAY WAS DOING IT.

I'M KIND OF DISCOURAGED NOW THAT IT'S NOT OUT THERE, BUT HOPEFULLY WE CAN BRING THIS BACK, ESPECIALLY IF YOU SAID 2021 OUT THE DOOR. I'M SURE THERE IS CONTINUING INTEREST IN THE PROGRAM THEN, MR. CHAIRPERSON, IF I MAY OFFER A REBUTTAL. YES. MISS LINDZEN'S POINT ON RAIN BARRELS.

PALM BAY CURRENTLY DOESN'T HAVE A RAIN BARREL PROGRAM. IT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN LOOKED INTO IN THE PAST. IT'S JUST NOT MOVED FORWARD, PRIMARILY BECAUSE BREVARD COUNTY HAS AN EXTENSIVE RAIN BARREL PROGRAM. THE NPDES COORDINATOR UP THERE, CARLOS CUEVAS, ACTUALLY GOES TO MELBOURNE, PALM BAY TURKEY CREEK SANCTUARY. HE HOSTS RAIN BARREL WORKSHOPS.

MRC ALSO DOES THE RAIN BARREL WORKSHOPS. AS YOU'VE MENTIONED BEFORE, THEY USED TO SELL RAIN BARRELS THEMSELVES.

THEY CURRENTLY DON'T AT THE MOMENT, BUT THEY DO HAVE AN EXTENSIVE GUIDE AS TO HOW TO SET UP YOUR OWN RAIN BARREL, WHAT THE CORRECT PARAMETERS ARE, AND MEASUREMENTS FOR DRILLING, FOR KEEPING THE MOSQUITOES, THE BUGS OUT FROM, FROM GETTING INTO THE WATER.

THEY DO ADVISE GOING TO THE HARDWARE STORE AND JUST GRABBING ALL YOUR, ALL YOUR SUPPLIES IN ORDER TO MAKE THAT YOURSELF.

AND I BELIEVE IT'S, IT'S EITHER BREVARD COUNTY OR MRC OR EVEN BOTH, BUT THEY PARTNER WITH SAVE OUR LAGOON IN ORDER TO ENRICH THE COMMUNITY ABOUT RAIN, THE RAIN BARREL PROGRAM TO TRY TO GET MORE PEOPLE TO CONSERVE THAT WATER AND USE IT FOR IRRIGATION OR WHAT HAVE YOU.

ALSO SPEAKING ON THE SUCCESS OF THE SUSTAINABILITY FAIR IN THE PAST, I DON'T HAVE EXACT NUMBERS AS FAR AS TURNOUTS, BUT FROM PICTURES I'VE SEEN IT WAS PRETTY PACKED.

I DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE NUMBERS AS HOW MANY PEOPLE ATTENDED THE RAIN BARREL WORKSHOPS IN THE PAST.

BUT AGAIN, BASED ON THOSE PICTURES, IT WAS A PRETTY PACKED HOUSE. I THINK THEY DID PRETTY GOOD. AND USUALLY IT WAS BUDGET, YOU KNOW, BUDGET WAS ALWAYS THE BIGGEST ISSUE.

AND THEN WITH US, WE, WE TRIED WITH THE LATEST, WITH THE LAST ITERATION OF THE BOARD TO GET THAT RUNNING AGAIN.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, WE JUST COULD NOT GET THE FUNDING TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

WE THE BOARD ACTUALLY DILIGENTLY TRIED THEIR OWN SPONSORSHIPS.

THEY TRIED TO GET SPONSORSHIPS AND WORK THINGS OUT AND IT JUST KIND OF FELL THROUGH.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT CURRENTLY WITH BOTH THE RAIN BARRELS AND THE SUSTAINABILITY FAIR.

EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. I HAD A QUICK QUESTION ON THAT ACTUALLY, BECAUSE AS YOU MENTIONED, THE BREVARD COUNTY HAS DONE RAINBOW WORKSHOPS BEFORE AND I ACTUALLY GOT MY RAIN BARREL THROUGH THEM AS WELL. YEAH. MY CONCERN WAS I HAVE LOOKED FOR THOSE RAIN BARREL WORKSHOPS IN 2026 AND HAVE NOT SEEN ANY PUBLICLY POSTED ANYWHERE.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THE COUNTY IS STILL OFFERING THAT OR NOT.

YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S FUNNY YOU MENTIONED THAT CARLOS USED TO EMAIL ME OR CALL ME AND LET ME KNOW WHEN HE WOULD BE IN TOWN TO GIVE THOSE, THOSE WORKSHOPS. I ACTUALLY HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING EITHER.

LAST I TALKED TO HIM, I, I, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS A CHANGE IN STAFFING, I THINK ROLES MIGHT HAVE BEEN CHANGED.

SO I'LL HAVE TO FOLLOW UP WITH HIM AND SEE WHAT HIS SCHEDULE LOOKS LIKE FOR THIS YEAR. AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO BE IN THE NEAR FUTURE THAT MAYBE YOURSELVES OR, OR WE CAN ATTEND. SO I CAN FOLLOW UP AND GET THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU.

YES. IF YOU COULD, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. DEFINITELY. THAT KIND OF GETS ON TO THE POINT THAT I WAS GOING TO TOUCH ON.

FOR THE RAIN BARREL PROGRAM WAS LIKE I SAID, BREVARD COUNTY USED TO HAVE A PROGRAM LIKE THIS.

I LOOKED FOR DATES. THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR THROUGH ON MY PHONE BEFORE THE MEETING STARTED IS TO FIND OUT WHAT IT WAS.

I THINK IT WAS THE BREVARD COUNTY RESOURCE MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT WAS DOING IT.

IF WE CAN, A LOT OF THESE PLACES DO HAVE SPONSORSHIPS WITH LOCAL BUSINESSES WHO HELP OUT WITH THAT.

I KNOW DEREK SAID THAT THE PRIOR BOARD, PRIOR MAKEUP OF THE BOARD WAS TRYING TO FIND THOSE SPONSORSHIPS ON THEIR OWN.

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I THINK THAT WOULD BE A WORTHWHILE ENDEAVOR. I THINK SOME BUSINESSES LIKE ACE HARDWARE, POTENTIALLY DOWN ON BABCOCK STREET WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY WOULD BE INTERESTED.

WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE MULTIPLE HARDWARE STORES LIKE LOWE'S AND HOME DEPOT WHO MAY POTENTIALLY BE ABLE TO ASSIST WITH THAT.

IF WE CAN FIND THOSE SPONSORSHIPS, I DO THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT PATH TO TAKE.

IT IS ONE THING TO CREATE YOUR OWN RAIN BARREL.

BUT THOSE 50 GALLON BUCKETS CAN BE KIND OF EXPENSIVE.

SO UNLESS THOSE ARE BEING DONATED IN THEN IT'S KIND OF LESS FEASIBLE FOR INDIVIDUALS TO BE ABLE TO.

IT'S ONE THING TO BUY SOME MOSQUITO NETTING AND A SPIGOT AND DO SOME DRILLING.

IT'S ANOTHER THING TO FIND YOUR OWN BLUE 50 GALLON BARREL ON YOUR OWN, RIGHT? AND THAT'S SOMETHING I WAS LOOKING INTO. I KNOW WE I KNOW COCA-COLA ISN'T LOCATED IN PALM BAY, BUT I'VE SEEN SOME. I THINK IT WAS ORLANDO HAD PARTNERED WITH COCA-COLA AND THROUGH THEIR SIRUP CONTAINERS, THEY WERE DONATING THOSE. SO I'M NOT SURE IF WE COULD MAYBE REACH OUT TO THEM.

I'M NOT SURE IF THEY HAVE TO BE FOOD GRADE FOR. I WOULD ASSUME THEY WOULD. I KNOW STANLEY STEEMER HAS BARRELS, BUT THOSE HAVE CHEMICALS IN THEM, SO THAT MIGHT BE OFF THE TABLE. BUT WE HAVE BAKERIES IN THE AREA THAT MAY BE ABLE TO, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S SOME SORT OF CALL WE COULD PUT OUT, LIKE FOR GALLON DRUMS DONATE TO THIS GROUP AND THEN WE CAN GET THEM OUT TO THE COMMUNITY.

BUT THAT WAS JUST SOMETHING I WAS KIND OF LOOKING FOR. IS, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE AS A BOARD HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO REACH OUT AND BE LIKE, HEY, WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING THIS PROGRAM LIKE, LIKE YOU SAID, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AS FAR AS SPONSORSHIP TO BE LIKE REACHING OUT TO THOSE BUSINESSES AND BE LIKE, HEY, I'M A MEMBER OF SUSTAINABILITY BOARD. WE'RE TRYING TO DO RAIN BARREL PROGRAM. DO YOU HAVE ANY ON HAND THAT YOU'D BE ABLE TO DONATE TYPE OF THING? I THINK FOR US TO OFFICIALLY TAKE THAT STEP TO WHERE WE DO START REACHING OUT WE WOULD NEED TO HAVE A MOTION AND PASS A MOTION THAT WE WANT TO START DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

BUT ONCE THAT MOTION HITS AND WE DO APPROVE IT AS A BOARD, I DO THINK THAT WE WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO REACH OUT AND, AND DISCUSS THOSE PARTNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES WITH LOCAL BUSINESSES.

MR. CHAIRMAN YES. JUST TAKE A STEP BACK A MOMENT.

SO IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, SO RAIN BARRELS ARE HELPFUL BECAUSE YOU CAN COLLECT WATER FROM THESE RAIN BARRELS.

YOU CAN ALSO UTILIZE THAT TO THEN WATER THE PLANTS ON YOUR PROPERTY.

BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO BE REACHING OUT, YOU WANT TO, I THINK WE NEED TO CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, HOW ONE, HOW IS IT GOING TO HELP OUR CITIZENS? YES, THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASPECT IS GREAT, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING.

HOW'S IT GOING TO HELP OUR IMPACT OUR CITIZENS? HOW MUCH IS IT GOING TO COST? YOU ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE BARREL BEING COSTLY. SO IF WE CAN GET SPONSORSHIP, THAT'S GREAT. THEN WE HAVE THE BREVARD COUNTY NATURAL RESOURCE DEPARTMENT.

AND WHAT WAS MENTIONED JUST A MOMENT AGO BY THE CITY STAFF.

SO I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING HOW THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY ARE GOING TO WANT TO PAY $50 FOR RAIN RAIN BARREL RIGHT NOW.

SO I UNDERSTAND THAT WE COULD REACH OUT AND GET SPONSORS.

YES. BUT WE'VE THEY JUST MENTIONED A MOMENT AGO THAT SPONSORS IT FELL THROUGH.

SO THE FIRST THING I'M THINKING IS WHY DID IT FALL THROUGH.

SO I CAN AVOID THAT THAT PITFALL AGAIN. THANK YOU.

THAT'S A GOOD CONSIDERATION. I WISH I COULD PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL INSIGHT ON THAT.

BUT UNFORTUNATELY I WAS NOT AROUND DURING THAT PROGRAM.

WHEN IT WAS LAST COMING AROUND. SO I'M NOT UNSURE AS TO WHAT THEIR ISSUES WERE.

MISS ZIEGLER IS OUR LONGEST REIGNING BOARD MEMBER, SO SHE MIGHT HAVE HAD SOME EXPERIENCE WITH THAT ASPECT.

I DON'T RECALL ALL THE DETAILS. I KNOW THE MELBOURNE BOTANICAL FEST THIS SPRING DID HAVE RAIN BARREL WORKSHOP.

YOU DO HAVE TO SIGN UP FOR THEM IN ADVANCE. AND ONE OF THE ISSUES WE FOUND AT THE LAST TIME AT OUR EVENT WAS THAT PEOPLE WHO HAD SIGNED UP DID NOT ALWAYS SHOW UP FOR THEIR BARREL.

AND THEN WE ENDED UP HAVING TO GIVE SOME AWAY.

SO I, I THINK IT'S MORE IMPORTANT THE, THE BARRELS THEMSELVES AREN'T USEFUL UNLESS YOU'RE USING THEM PROPERLY.

SO WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT GIVING AWAY RAIN BARRELS, I'VE SEEN PLENTY OF THEM OUT THERE CLOGGED WITH WEEDS OVERFLOWING THE TOP.

THEY'RE NOT REALLY USEFUL IN THAT SENSE. SO UNLESS THEY'RE PAIRED WITH IF WE DECIDE TO MOVE ON THIS, I WOULD SUGGEST WE DO SOME RESEARCH FIRST AND PAIR IT WITH A RAIN GARDEN DESIGN THAT PEOPLE CAN PUT IN OR SOMETHING THAT IS MORE THAN JUST A TEMPORARY STORAGE, AN OVERFLOW FOR THEIR ROOF.

THAT IS THEN NOT IT'S GOT TO BE. AND, AND THEY DO NEED A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MAINTENANCE.

THE FOOD GRADE THING I DON'T I DON'T KNOW, THE LAST TIME WE DID RESEARCH ON THIS, THERE IS NOBODY WHO'S WILLING TO SAY, YOU CAN USE RAIN WATER FROM A RAIN BARREL IN YOUR FOOD GARDEN, NO MATTER WHAT KIND OF BARREL IT IS.

AND PART OF THAT IS THE SHINGLE ROOFS THAT IT'S COMING OFF OF THOSE.

THERE'S POLLUTANTS COMING OFF OF THAT ASPHALT ROOF, EVEN A METAL ROOF.

YOU DON'T KNOW BIRDS. YOU KNOW, ANYTHING CAN BE IN THAT WATER FROM THE ROOF.

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BUT WE JUST A RAIN BARREL ITSELF GIVING THEM TO PEOPLE WITHOUT THE, WITHOUT A PLAN.

I DON'T SEE IT AS BEING HELPFUL. YEAH. I WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE TO AS PART OF THIS PROGRAM.

IF WE DO DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT, TIE AN EDUCATIONAL ASPECT TO IT.

BECAUSE THAT WHEN I DID MY RAIN BARREL CLASS WITH BREVARD COUNTY, I LEARNED QUITE A BIT ABOUT HOW TO MANAGE IT, HOW TO USE IT, WHAT IT'S USED FOR, WHY WE HAVE THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE.

SO HAVING THAT KIND OF EDUCATIONAL ASPECT TO IT, AS OPPOSED TO JUST, HERE'S A RAIN BARREL, HAVE FUN.

WOULD DEFINITELY BE SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO GO FOR. OKAY.

I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE STARTED WITH THIS. SORRY. IT WAS MY FIRST TIME BRINGING AN ITEM, SO I WASN'T THE GOAL WOULD BE TO CONSERVE THE WATER USAGE FOR PEOPLE SO IT WOULD CUT BACK ON THEIR WATER BILL. HOPEFULLY THAT WOULD BE AN INCENTIVE. AND THEN IT WOULD DEFINITELY BE INCORPORATED WITHIN AN EDUCATIONAL COMPONENT. HOPEFULLY THAT WOULD BE HOW WE WOULD OFFER THE REBATE. IF THERE'S ANY WAY TO OFFER REBATE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME TO THAT CLASS. AND THEN THAT'S KIND OF AN INCENTIVE. AND THEN THAT REBATE I'VE SEEN ALSO DONE THROUGH LIKE A CREDIT TO THEIR WATER BILL RATHER THAN LIKE A CASH REBATE.

SO THOSE WOULD BE WAYS TO GET THE PUBLIC INVOLVED AND BE LIKE, OH, THAT'S WHY THE BENEFIT TO ME, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS THINKING. AND THEN BEYOND JUST PROVIDING WATER FOR YOUR GARDENS, IT ALSO HELPS TO, YOU KNOW, CUT BACK SOME OF THE STORMWATER THAT'S GOING INTO THE SYSTEM, THOSE POLLUTANTS THAT ARE ENTERING THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON, KEEPING THEM FROM GOING INTO THE INTO THE DRAINS.

EXCELLENT. SO I GUESS TO END THAT, I WILL DO MORE RESEARCH BEFORE I COME BACK WITH A MOTION.

I JUST I'M GLAD WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION. SO THANK YOU. AND WE DO HAVE ONE PUBLIC COMMENT THAT I'D LIKE TO BRING UP.

LYDIA BARBER 1638 FORK TERRACE, SOUTHEAST. WHEN WE PLANNED THE ORIGINAL GARDEN FOR THE NATIVE PLANTS, IT WAS AN EDUCATIONAL GARDEN AND IT'S TURNED INTO A REMEMBRANCE GARDEN.

BUT THAT ISN'T THE CASE, THAT IT COULD STILL NOT INCLUDE EDUCATIONAL THINGS, SUCH AS HAVING SET UP A RAIN BARREL AND HAVING A SIGN THAT EXPLAINS ITS PURPOSE, HOW YOU DO IT, HOW YOU SET IT UP AND THAT KIND OF THING.

THAT TO ME, COULD EASILY BE ADDED TO THAT GARDEN PLAN EASILY.

AND IT WOULD SOLVE IT WOULD SOLVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS, I THINK.

OR HELP ANYWAY. THANK YOU. YES. SO PART OF THAT PLAN FOR THE GARDEN HAS ALWAYS CONTINUED TO INCLUDE AN EDUCATIONAL ASPECT TO IT.

AGAIN PRICING IS OUR LIMITATION ON THERE. SO HOW MUCH CAN WE DO WITHIN X AMOUNT OF MONEY.

BUT WE ALWAYS DO WANT TO, EVEN AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT AS A REMEMBRANCE GARDEN, WE HAVE KIND OF ALWAYS CONSIDERED A REMEMBRANCE AND EDUCATION GARDEN AS WELL.

I WOULD FRANKLY LIKE TO SEE THIS INCORPORATE RAIN BARRELS INCORPORATED TO LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT FEATURES IN OUR PLANNING.

YOU KNOW, AND, AND HOW LOTS ARE PUT TOGETHER.

THE SOME OF THE BEST RAIN BARREL USAGE I'VE SEEN HAVE BEEN FOR ELEVATED TERRACED GARDENS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE. SO THE WATER FLOWS INTO ONE AND THEN FLOWS TO A LOWER LEVEL AND A LOWER LEVEL.

AND THE THAT DOES AMELIORATE SOME OF THE ISSUES WHERE THE OVERFLOW IS JUST GOING INTO THE DITCH.

AND THE SAME WAY RAINWATER WOULD WHEN IT'S NOT USED PROPERLY, BUT IT'S IT'S A LEARNING CURVE FOR ALL OF US BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE COME HERE EVERY YEAR AND NO IDEA WHAT A RAIN BARREL IS OR HOW TO USE IT.

NEW HOMEOWNERS AND PEOPLE NEW TO THE AREA. SO YEAH.

I DO THINK YOU TOUCHED ON SOMETHING ACTUALLY VERY INTERESTING. WHICH IS IF WE COULD INCORPORATE THAT AS PART OF LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT AND POTENTIALLY TALK TO GROWTH MANAGEMENT AND SEE WHETHER OR NOT THEY CAN INCLUDE THAT AS LIKE AN OFFSET TO WHERE DEVELOPERS DO INCLUDE A RAIN BARREL WITH THE HOME FOR THE HOMEOWNERS, THEY DO GET AN OFFSET ON THEIR IMPACT FEES OR SOMETHING ALONG THAT LINE.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE A VERY INTERESTING ROUTE TO EXPLORE.

MR. CHAIRMAN, YES, I THINK THOSE ARE REALLY GOOD MOTIONS.

I THINK THAT WE SHOULD KIND OF BAKE IN WHAT WE'VE DISCUSSED THUS FAR INTO ONCE ONE SOLUTION, BUT THEN ALSO INCORPORATING SOME OF THE ADVICE THAT WE WERE GETTING FROM CITY STAFF.

SO UNLESS WE HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER TO SAY, AND THEN I GUESS, I GUESS I'LL WAIT FOR YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, TO SEE WHAT OUR NEXT STEP WILL BE. THANK YOU.

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MR. CHAIRMAN, YES, I MOVE THAT THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD DISCUSS RECOMMENDING THE CITY OF PALM BAY ESTABLISH A STRUCTURED RAIN BARREL PROGRAM, INCLUDING PUBLIC WORKSHOPS AND EDUCATIONAL MATERIALS WORKSHOPS FOR RESIDENTS WITH AN EXISTING PROGRAMS AND LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT AREAS MODELED AFTER OR PARTNERING WITH SUCCESSFUL PROGRAMS IN CITIES SUCH AS CAPE CORAL AND OTHER SUCCESSFUL CITIES.

AND THAT CITY STAFF FROM THE UTILITIES AND PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT BE DIRECTED TO REPORT BACK TO THE BOARD WITHIN 60 DAYS WITH A PROPOSED IMPLEMENTATION PLAN.

EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. I HAVE A MOTION. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, SAY AYE.

AYE AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES 5 TO 0. WE WILL MOVE ON AT THIS TIME TO NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER THREE WHICH IS LOCAL CLIMATE RISKS. DID WE HAVE SOMEBODY WHO WANTED TO START OFF ON THIS ONE.

MR. CHAIRMAN THAT THAT WILL BE ME. YES, SIR. SO GOING BACK TO OUR PREVIOUS DISCUSSION, IN ACCORDANCE WITH ARTICLE ONE, SECTION ONE OF THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD, IT STATES, AND I QUOTE, THE PURPOSE AND INTENT OF THE.

SHALL BE TO ADVISE AND ASSIST THE CITY COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER AND CITY STAFF IN MATTERS RELATING TO POLLUTION REDUCTION, WATER QUALITY INITIATIVES, COMMUNITY EDUCATION AND INVOLVEMENT, AND ASSESSING LOCAL CLIMATE RISK.

SO THAT MAKES US INTO THREE THREE SEPARATE CATEGORIES.

YOU HAVE THE POLLUTION REDUCTION, WATER QUALITY INITIATIVE, COMMUNITY EDUCATION AND INVOLVEMENT, WHICH WE ARE PRETTY ADEPT AT AND GETTING BETTER AT AND ASSESSING LOCAL CLIMATE RISK.

I DON'T WANT TO BE DISMISSIVE OF THAT SECOND POINT, BUT IT BASED ON WHAT I'VE SEEN THUS FAR FROM WHAT YOU'VE DONE, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND THE DISCUSSION WE HAD THIS RECENTLY, THE PUBLIC WORKS, I THINK YOU HAD A TABLE OUT THERE TALKING TO TO CONSTITUENTS.

I WILL THEN LEAVE THAT ASIDE AND FOCUS PRIMARILY ON POINT THREE AND POINT ONE.

SO THE FIRST THING I WAS KIND OF DELVING INTO IS WHAT IS A CLIMATE RISK? AND THAT SHIFTED INTO AN ANALYSIS ABOUT TRANSITION TRANSITION RISK AND PHYSICAL RISK.

AND THEN I THOUGHT, WHAT ARE OUR PHYSICAL RISKS RELATED TO US HERE IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND SET ASIDE TRANSITION RISK FOR THE TIME BEING? SO WHAT ARE THE PHYSICAL RISKS IN PALM BAY? SO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS ABLE TO UNCOVER WAS, OF COURSE, THE PFAS FOREVER CHEMICALS IN THE DRINKING WATER, THE TAP WATER. WE HAVE THE RAW SEWAGE SPILLS.

WE HAVE THE, THE AND THE WILDFIRES. AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS ABLE TO UNCOVER THUS FAR.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO DELVE IN A BIT MORE, BUT I WANTED TO OPEN THE FLOOR TO SEE IF OTHER MEMBERS HAD ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD.

I DO KNOW THAT AREAS OF PALM BAY ARE IN A PRETTY HIGH FLOOD RISK AREA.

SO STORMWATER MANAGEMENT DOES INCLUDE IN THAT RISK AS WELL.

I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD WANT TO EXPLORE AS PART OF THESE RISKS FOR THE LOCAL AREA AS WELL.

I THINK THE LOCAL CLIMATE RISK AND ARE WE TALKING ABOUT STRICTLY PALM BAY OR GEOGRAPHICALLY? I MEAN, I THINK THAT CLIMATE RISK ITSELF IS CAN LEAD TO FOOD INSECURITY, WHERE WE SEE CROP LOSSES BECAUSE OF WEATHER SHIFTS AND FIRE.

AND WE'VE HAD THIS EXTRAORDINARILY COLD FEW WEEKS THAT CAUSED A LOT OF CROP LOSS.

SO IT IS SOMETHING BIGGER, I THINK. I MEAN, SCIENTISTS HAVE BEEN STUDYING GLOBAL CLIMATE CHANGE FOR A HUNDRED YEARS AND I.

THEY. MOST OF THEIR PREDICTIONS HAVE BEEN COME TRUE AHEAD OF SCHEDULE.

THEY ANTICIPATED EFFICIENCIES AND. BUT. AND THERE HAVE BEEN EFFICIENCIES, BUT THERE'S ALSO BEEN MASSIVE CONSUMPTION OF GROWTH AND CONSUMPTION PER CAPITA OF ENERGY. SO I SEE OUR BIGGEST RISK AS REALLY LOSING OUR LOCAL AGRICULTURE. AND THAT'S PARTLY DEVELOPMENT, BUT IT'S ALSO FARMERS ARE LOSING MONEY BECAUSE OF CLIMATE CHANGE. SO YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE A, A YEAR WHERE YOU SPEND ALL THE MONEY AND AT THE LAST MINUTE ALL YOUR

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YOU JUST CAN'T GET THAT MONEY BACK. SO FOR ME, FOOD, FOOD SECURITY, AND HAVING BEING ABLE TO NOT IMPORT FOOD, HAVING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE LOCAL PRODUCE IS IMPORTANT.

SO THAT I KNOW THE OTHER CONSIDERATIONS OF AIR POLLUTION, WE HAVE EVERY, THERE ARE PRETERM BIRTHS ASSOCIATED WITH HEAT WITH BEING EXPOSED TO EXCESSIVE HEAT TEMPERATURES.

SO PREGNANT WOMEN WHO DON'T HAVE AIR CONDITIONING HAVE LOW BIRTH WEIGHT BABIES AND PREMATURE BIRTHS.

THERE'S ALL KINDS OF HIDDEN RISKS THAT WE'RE JUST DISCOVERING AS MORE RESEARCH IS DONE.

IT'S A REALLY, I FIND IT VERY DISHEARTENING THAT ON A NATIONAL LEVEL, THE THINGS THAT ARE RELATIVELY EASY TO DO AREN'T BEING DONE. SOLAR IS SO OBVIOUS IN FLORIDA. AND YET I DON'T KNOW OF ANYBODY WHO'S MANDATING NEW DEVELOPMENTS HAVE SOLAR.

WE HAVE THAT BABCOCK RANCH THAT DID WONDERFULLY WELL IN THE HURRICANE BECAUSE THEY HAD THEIR OWN ENERGY GENERATION THROUGH SOLAR.

SO WHEN THE HURRICANE CAME THROUGH, THEY HAD THEIR GENERATORS, THEY HAD THEIR SOLAR POWER.

IT WASN'T AFFECTED. THEY HAD THEIR BATTERY STORAGE.

THEY DID NOT LOSE POWER. SO YEAH, I, I LIKE DISCUSSING THE TOPIC.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT WE CAN DO ABOUT IT. MR. CHAIRMAN.

YES, SIR. VICE CHAIRMAN, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD? EXCUSE ME. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD, MA'AM? I'M SORRY.

DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO ADD TO THE LIST? NOT AT THE MOMENT.

OKAY. OH, I JUST WANTED TO FOCUS IN ON THE FIRST.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THOSE COMMENTS. I'VE GOT CROP LOSS DUE TO CLIMATE CHANGE AND THE LOSS OF LOCAL AGRICULTURE DUE TO CLIMATE CHANGE, AIR POLLUTION AND THE PRETERM BIRTHS. I DID NOT NOT NOTICE THAT I HAVE THAT.

BUT I ALSO NOTICED WHAT YOU TOLD ME LAST LAST MEETING WITH REGARDS TO THERE WAS THE REACTION OF CITY COUNCIL AND AND TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE PRACTICAL. AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S IMPACTING ME RIGHT HERE IN FLORIDA.

SO UNLESS UNLESS THE BEACHES ARE MESSED UP, THEN THEY'RE NOT CONCERNED ABOUT WATER LOSS.

OKAY, SO I THOUGHT ABOUT THE IMMEDIATE CONCERN, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, THE TAP WATER THAT'S AFFECTING INDIVIDUALS.

SO WE'VE GOT THE DECEMBER 2024 PFOA TEST AT 8.5 PARTS PER TRILLION.

AND AT THAT, A ESSER. WELL, AND THAT'S DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF EPA.

BUT I DON'T HAVE AN UPDATED NUMBERS FOR THAT.

SO THAT'S THE DIRECT EXPOSURE THAT WE HAVE WHEN WE OPEN UP THE TAP AT OUR HOMES HERE IN PALM BAY.

I KNOW THAT BASED ON SOME SOME RESEARCH THAT OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE, YOU KNOW, QUALITY MONITORING OF THEIR WATER AND THEY HAVE PUBLIC DATA DASHBOARDS WHICH ARE FREE TO RUN. SO THAT'S SOMETHING I WANT US TO POSSIBLY TO DISCUSS, POSSIBLY IF PERMISSIBLE.

AND THEN SECONDLY, YOU KNOW, THE RAW SEWAGE SPILLS IN 2004 AND JUNE 2025.

BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE, THE RESULT WAS AND WHAT WAS THE FIX, THE LONG TERM FIX FOR THAT.

SO THOSE ARE THINGS RIGHT HERE AT HOME THAT I THOUGHT WE COULD, WE COULD POSSIBLY TACKLE THAT.

WE HAVE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS WE CAN PROVIDE TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY ABOUT.

THANK YOU. I BELIEVE THE ERIC MIGHT BE ABLE TO SHINE SOME LIGHT ON OUR RECENT SPILLS BECAUSE I KNOW PUBLIC WORKS HAS BEEN WORKING ON THOSE.

AND THE RESOLUTIONS THAT WERE ON THAT NOT TO PUT YOU GUYS ON THE SPOT, BUT I BELIEVE YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME INSIGHT ON THOSE.

WHAT EXACTLY WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW? CAN YOU GIVE US THE MOST RECENT PFAS TEST RESULTS FOR OLIVER WELLS, INCLUDING THE AIR SAW WELL FROM 2005 AND 2026.

THAT I CAN'T BECAUSE WE DON'T DEAL WITH THE WELL SYSTEMS THAT WOULD BE BREVARD COUNTY.

IN ON PFAS TESTING. THIS IS ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT JUST.

SORRY TO INTERRUPT, ERIC. NO, NO. IT WAS A BIG POINT OF CONTENTION AT ONE OF THE COUNTY COMMISSION MEETINGS THAT I WAS WATCHING ONE TIME.

AND SO I ACTUALLY REACHED OUT TO OUR HEAD OF UTILITIES HERE AT CITY OF PALM BAY.

AND HE, HE GAVE ME A LIST TO A WEBSITE WHERE THE EPA ACTUALLY TRACKS ALL THIS DATA.

I CAN PASS THAT ALONG TO CITY STAFF. THAT WAY THEY CAN PASS IT ALONG TO THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD AS WELL.

THAT WAY YOU HAVE THAT ACCESS TO THAT WEBSITE THAT HAS ALL THOSE UPDATED INFORMATIONS THAT THEY HAVE TO REPORT.

THE CITY OF PALM BAY REPORTS TO THE EPA. WELL, I'VE GOT YOUR ATTENTION.

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THE ASR WELL OR ANY OTHER OF THE OTHER WELLS.

NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE. OKAY. WHAT'S THE CITY'S CURRENT PLAN AND TIMELINE FOR MEETING THE EPA'S FOUR FOUR PARTS PER TRILLION THAT WAS DESCRIBED EARLIER, BEFORE THE 2029 DEADLINE? SO THE UNFORTUNATE THING IS WE'RE PUBLIC WORKS AND UTILITIES IS THE ONE THAT THAT DEALS WITH THE PFAS, THE THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT AND THAT ORDINANCE SPECIFICALLY.

SO IF POSSIBLE, WE COULD FOR THE NEXT MEETING, ARE WE GOING TO MEET IN JUNE? WE COULD TRY TO SCHEDULE SOMETHING WITH, WITH UTILITIES TO COME OUT AND ADDRESS ANY CONCERNS YOU MIGHT HAVE REGARDING PFAS.

AT THE NEXT MEETING. I KNOW THAT CITY COUNCIL IS ON RECESS FOR THE MONTH OF JUNE.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD HAS MADE A MOTION TO GO ON RECESS FOR THE MONTH OF JUNE. SO I DO BELIEVE AT THIS TIME WE'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE A JUNE MEETING. OKAY, PERFECT. SO WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL REACH OUT TO UTILITIES DEPARTMENT, SEE IF, IF TIM ROBERTS OR THE DIRECTOR OR ANYBODY THAT'S THAT'S AVAILABLE CAN COME OUT AND SPEAK ON THOSE TOPICS. IT GIVES YOU TIME TO, TO FIGURE OUT MORE QUESTIONS.

YEAH. YEAH. THAT'LL WORK. WOULD WE EVEN NEED A MOTION TO ADD THAT TO THE AGENDA? YES, PLEASE. OKAY. YEP. DO I HAVE A MOTION? MR. CHAIRMAN, I THINK A MEMBER HAS A YES. WELL, THIS IS THIS IS SOMETHING FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, FROM A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, IS THAT ONE OF THE WATER TREATMENT CENTERS IN PALM BAY INCLUDED A REVERSE OSMOSIS SYSTEM.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO VERIFY THAT IF WE CAN, FOR WHEN WE HAVE A GUEST SPEAKER, IN CASE I FORGET.

YES, THAT THAT IS WHAT I'D HEARD. WE WENT TO SEE ABOUT WATER TREATMENT WHEN WE BOUGHT OUR PLACE IN 2018, AND THEY SAID, WELL, YOU HAVE CITY, PALM BAY CITY WATER, SO YOUR WATER IS GOOD.

BUT EVERYBODY ELSE WE TALKED TO SAID, YOU NEED IT.

YOU NEED A SYSTEM. SO YEAH, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THAT.

BUT YES, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA.

OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADD A DISCUSSION WITH UTILITIES PALM BAY UTILITIES TO THE JUNE AGENDA.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. I'LL SECOND THAT.

OKAY. WE HAVE A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR OF ADDING IT TO THE AGENDA? SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO, MR. CHAIRMAN. YES, SIR. I MOVE FOR THE ADOPTION OF THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION THAT THE CITY OF PALM BAY DIRECTS SELECT STAFF MEMBERS, ERGO UTILITIES, LEGISLATIVE DEPARTMENT, GROWTH MANAGEMENT, COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, PLANNING AND ZONING, OR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO ATTEND SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS AS THEY SEE FIT AND BASED ON THE RESPONSIBILITIES AND DUTIES ASSIGNED BASED ON ARTICLE ONE. SECTION ONE OF THE BYLAWS. EXCELLENT.

THANK YOU. DO I HAVE A SECOND? MR. CHAIRPERSON, IF I MAY, REAL QUICK WITH THE CURRENT MOTION AT HAND.

AND THEN THE PREVIOUS MOTION DURING THE RAIN BARRELS THAT THAT WAS PASSED AS WELL.

I'D JUST LIKE TO GET SOME CLARIFICATION. THE MOTIONS THAT ARE BEING MADE, ARE THEY DICTATIONS THAT CITY STAFF LOOK INTO A RAIN BARREL PROGRAM AND THEN PROVIDE YOU WITH THE INFORMATION. AND THEN ARE WE ALSO ASKING OR DICTATING THAT CITY STAFF BE MADE TO COME TO THESE MEETINGS? WHAT ARE WE ASKING EXACTLY? THAT IS ACTUALLY WHAT I WAS GOING TO BRING FORTH IN THE DISCUSSION AFTER A SECOND, IF WE HAD ONE, BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE WELL, I GUESS WE CAN HAVE THIS DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW.

I DO BELIEVE THAT THE PRESENCE OF CITY STAFF AT THESE BOARD MEMBERS IS VOLUNTARY.

AND WE CANNOT NECESSARILY DICTATE THAT THEY ARRIVE.

WE CAN REQUEST THAT THEY ARRIVE. YEAH. BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE CAN FORCE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM CITY DEPARTMENTS TO BE PART OF OUR MEETINGS.

I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH BASE AND MAKE CLEAR THAT IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO TAKE ACTION ON, IT WOULD NEED TO GO TO COUNCIL. SO IT'S NOT THAT THIS CAN'T BE DONE, BUT IF SOMETHING IS GOING TO CHANGE AS FAR AS MANDATORY ATTENDANCE FOR A MEETING OR EVEN IN THE LAST MOTION THAT WAS MADE, THE RAIN BARRELS, AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY.

SO LIKE IN THE MOTION THAT WAS MADE ABOUT THE RAIN BARRELS, THE CITY CANNOT PRODUCE A PLAN.

THE CITY CANNOT DO THE WORK OF A SUSTAINABLE INITIATIVE.

IF THAT'S THE CASE, THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD WOULD NEED TO GO TO COUNCIL AND SAY, WE'D LIKE TO WORK ON A, ON A SUSTAINABLE INITIATIVE FOR RAIN BARREL PROGRAM.

AND THEN YOU YOURSELVES AS A SUSTAINABILITY BOARD WOULD NEED TO COME TOGETHER, DO THAT RESEARCH, PROVIDE A PLAN TO COUNCIL, AND THEN COUNCIL WOULD APPROVE IT, AND THEN CITY WOULD ADOPT IT.

NOW, YOU CAN ALSO DO THE SAME THING WITH ATTENDANCE FOR FOR THE BOARD. YOU COULD SAY, HEY, LISTEN, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE MORE ATTENDANCE FROM THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS.

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I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT WOULD WORK OUT. BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE IT CLEAR THE CITY CANNOT TAKE ACTION ON SUSTAINABLE INITIATIVES.

YES, WE CAN DO AS MUCH WORK AS WE CAN TO HELP WITH GETTING PRESENTERS HERE OR PROVIDING INFORMATION FROM THE CITY SIDE OF THINGS, BUT WE CAN'T TAKE PART IN THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD.

SO YES. THAT'S ACTUALLY, I THINK FOR CLARIFICATION, THAT'S WHAT MR. TEDDER WAS GOING FOR WITH THE LAST MOTION WAS WHAT ASSISTANCE YOU CAN PROVIDE FOR THE RAIN BARREL PROGRAM, SUCH AS REACHING OUT TO THE CONTACT THAT YOU HAD TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THAT CONTACT IS STILL EXISTS.

THAT WAS WORKING WITH BREVARD COUNTY. THAT KIND OF INFORMATION, IF YOU WERE ABLE TO PRESENT THAT AND BRING IT FORWARD TO US AT THE NEXT MEETING.

OKAY. PERFECT. THANK YOU. MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE CAN ADVOCATE FOR SUSTAINABILITY ISSUES AT OTHER MEETINGS IN THE PUBLICS, IN THE SUNSHINE. WE CANNOT DICTATE THAT OTHER BOARD MEMBERS OR THE CITY COUNCIL ATTEND OUR MEETINGS ANY MORE THAN THEY DICTATE THAT WE ATTEND THEIRS.

THEY CAN ASK MR. CHAIRMAN. YES, SIR. SO I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND.

BUT TO TO PIGGYBACK ON WHAT YOU SAID. CORRECT.

THAT'S I'M ASKING THE CITY COUNCIL AND TO BE VERY SPECIFIC IN REGARDS TO UTILIZING EXISTING WORKSHOPS OUR MEMBER STATED THAT THERE'S AN EXISTING WORKSHOP THAT'S IN PLACE RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE EDUCATION MATERIALS. WE HAVE THIS GARDEN SO THAT WE'RE NOT TRYING TO STAND UP A NEW PROGRAM WHEN THERE'S ALREADY OTHER PROGRAMS IN PLACE.

AND THAT SINCE THE PUBLIC WORKS HAS ALREADY IS HERE, THEY COULD ADVISE ONCE THE CITY COUNCIL, CITY OF PALM BAY COUNCIL AUTHORIZED. OF COURSE, BECAUSE WE HAVE NO POWER.

OUR POWER COMES TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY COUNCIL ON A PROPOSED IMPLEMENTATION PLAN.

OR THEY COULD LET US KNOW THAT IT'S NOT POSSIBLE.

SO THE MOTION SAYS, I MOVE THAT SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD DISCUSS RECOMMENDED TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY COUNCIL.

THAT'S WHAT I SORT OF SAID. SO I MOVED TO AMEND THAT TO SAY CITY OF PALM BAY COUNCIL.

AND THAT'S JUST SIMPLY CITY OF PALM BAY. THANK YOU.

SO YOU AMEND THE MOTION TO WHERE WE AS A BOARD WILL DISCUSS OUR PRESENTING IT TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

CORRECT. EXCELLENT. ALSO, MR. CHAIRMAN. YES, SIR.

I MOVE TO AMEND THE PREVIOUS MOTION. I MOVE FOR THE ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY COUNCIL DIRECT SELECT STAFF MEMBERS.

AND FOR THAT MOTION AS WELL. OKAY. THANK YOU.

DO I HAVE A SECOND ON THE AMENDMENTS? SECOND.

WE HAVE A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDMENT SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO.

MR. CHAIRMAN? YES, SIR. JUST A SLIGHT COMMENT, BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND ABOUT COMMUNICATION.

IN MY MY JOB I ALWAYS HAVE TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE CLIENT.

SO WHAT I'M I'M UNDERSTANDING THAT THE THEY'RE VOLUNTEERING.

BUT FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAD A QUESTION FOR CITY STAFF AND THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO ANSWER UTILITIES COULD HELP US WITH THAT.

OR IF WE HAD ANOTHER QUESTION ABOUT WILDFIRE, THEN MAYBE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS TO THAT.

SO MAYBE THAT'S WHY I SAID THAT THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD DIRECT THE MEMBERS WHO WOULD BE MOST APPROPRIATE TO COME TO OUR MEETING, BECAUSE WE DEFINITELY DON'T NEED ALL OF THEM HERE. WE DON'T WASTE THEIR TIME AND TAKE THEM AWAY FROM THEIR FAMILIES OR THEIR OTHER OBLIGATIONS. SO THAT'S WHY THAT'S WHY IT'S IT'S MADE IN THAT THAT MANNER GIVING DISCRETION TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU. WOULD YOU FOR US TO MOVE THAT KIND OF A PROJECT FORWARD? WE WOULD NEED TO MAKE A PRESENTATION TO CITY COUNCIL. WOULD YOU BE COMFORTABLE MAKING THAT PRESENTATION ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD IF THE BOARD AGREES? YES, MR. CHAIRMAN. WELL, I HAVE A QUESTION THAT AS INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS ON OUR OWN TIME, IF WE CAN JUST APPROACH PUBLIC UTILITIES ON OUR OWN PUBLIC WORKS ON OUR OWN, AND WE CAN IDENTIFY OURSELVES AS BEING A MEMBER OF THE BOARD AS OUTSIDE PROJECTS. AND THEN WE BRING THE INFORMATION WE RECEIVE BACK TO THE MEETINGS.

AND WE DON'T HAVE TO INVOLVE OUTSIDE PARTIES, AS LONG AS WE DON'T TALK ABOUT IT AMONGST OURSELVES.

AS AN INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBER, YOU CAN GO TO THEM AND THEN BRING THE INFORMATION BACK.

IS THAT CORRECT? BASED ON MR. MESSENGER'S PRESENTATION ON SUNSHINE LAW, I DO BELIEVE THAT COUNTS AS A ONE WAY COMMUNICATION.

I THINK IN THAT CONTEXT, HE WAS TALKING ABOUT ONE WAY COMMUNICATIONS BETWEEN THE BOARD MEMBERS SPECIFICALLY, BUT I STILL THINK YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO GO TO AS LONG AS IT'S JUST

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IT WAS. YEAH. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO TO ANY CITY STAFF ON YOUR OWN TIME AND JUST IN A ONE ON ONE COMMUNICATION, ASK QUESTIONS, GAIN INFORMATION, THAT'S THAT'S ABSOLUTELY DOABLE.

YEAH. I WILL SAY JUST FROM OUR REQUESTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE TO ME PERSONALLY FROM CITY STAFF THEY WOULD LIKE A SINGULAR POINT OF CONTACT BEING THE INDIVIDUAL THAT IS DOING THAT IF AT ALL POSSIBLE.

THAT WAY WE DON'T HAVE FIVE INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBERS CONTACTING PEOPLE INDEPENDENTLY THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

BECAUSE THEN WE WOULD BE RUNNING INTO POTENTIAL SUNSHINE ISSUES AS WELL AS DUPLICATING EFFORTS ALL OVER THE PLACE.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT METHODOLOGY WE MAY BE ABLE TO HAVE.

WE JUST MIGHT NEED TO SIGNIFY AND APPOINT AN INDIVIDUAL WHO WOULD BE INTERESTED IN SPEAKING ON THAT OR COLLECTING THAT INFORMATION.

WHENEVER WE DO PASS A MOTION, WE WOULD IDENTIFY WHO IS GOING TO BE THE ACTIVE INDIVIDUAL WORKING ON THAT.

AND THAT WAY WE KNOW THE SINGULAR POINT OF CONTACT THAT IS GOING TO BE REACHING OUT TO THE CITY STAFF IN THOSE CASES.

IF I MAY, CHAIRMAN, JUST TO ADD TO THAT. YES, SIR.

TOTALLY THE RIGHT DIRECTION. I BELIEVE THAT IF YOU HAVE AN INITIATIVE HERE AT THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD THAT YOU'D LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH I THINK IT WOULD BE BEST TO UTILIZE SOME TIME TO SAY, HEY, WHAT DO WE WHO WOULD LIKE TO DO THIS PART OF THE PROJECT? WHO WOULD LIKE TO GO TALK TO THIS PERSON? DOUG IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT ABOUT THE ONE POINT OF CONTACT.

THAT WAY NOT EVERYBODY'S GOING AND GETTING THE SAME ANSWERS TO THE SAME QUESTIONS A DOZEN TIMES, BUT THAT THAT WOULD BE THE, THE BEST USE OF THE, OF THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD MEETINGS TIME WOULD BE TO COME UP WITH THOSE INITIATIVES AND THEN ESTABLISH ROLES AND AUTHORITIES IN THAT MATTER.

ABSOLUTELY. AND THEN AGAIN, ANYTHING THAT YOU NEED AS FAR AS CONTACT INFORMATION, WE CAN ABSOLUTELY PROVIDE YOU.

SO IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO TALK TO UTILITIES OR EVEN IF WE WANTED TO BRING UTILITIES HERE, WE CAN GET IN TOUCH WITH THEM FOR YOU.

AND THEN AGAIN, ONE ON ONE COMMUNICATION, WHETHER IT'S, IT'S MR. HOOK OR JUST SOMEBODY THAT'S BEEN ADVISED TO DO SO BY ALL MEANS.

YEAH. I'M MORE THAN HAPPY BEING THAT SINGULAR POINT OF CONTACT. BUT AGAIN, WE HAVE TO BE AWARE OF SUNSHINE LAWS AND NOT BEING ABLE TO COMMUNICATE OUTSIDE OF THE MEETINGS. SO IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ARE ABLE TO DELEGATE RESPONSIBILITIES FOR, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO DELEGATE RESPONSIBILITIES TO INDIVIDUALS WHO WANT TO CHAMPION PROJECTS. THAT'S PERFECT. I'M GLAD, MR. CHAIRMAN. I, I ALREADY, I THINK CITY STAFF KNOWS TRYING TO GET AHOLD OF ME AND MY SCHEDULES CAN BE QUITE DIFFICULT.

SO I'M GRATEFUL FOR THAT. AND I DID ATTEMPT TO ATTEND THE PLANNING MEETING, BUT I WASN'T ABLE TO.

SO I ENDED UP LOOKING, LISTENING TO THE RECORDING.

QUITE A LIVELY, LIVELY MEETING, TO SAY THE LEAST.

BUT WHAT I DID WANT TO TALK ABOUT, AND IF WE CAN DISCUSS WITH THE UTILITIES TEAM, IS ABOUT THE PFAS FOREVER CHEMICALS I MENTIONED TODAY AND THE RAW SEWAGE SPILLS. AND THE REASON WHY I'M ASKING ABOUT THAT IS I KNOW THAT IN PALM BAY, WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST WHERE THERE WAS A PRINTOUT THAT WAS PUBLISHED AND MAILED OUT TO CONSTITUENTS, BUT THAT'S THAT'S ALTERED. BUT MAKING SURE THAT INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE BECAUSE I THINK TRANSPARENCY BRINGS ACCOUNTABILITY.

AND IF THINGS DON'T GET FORGOTTEN THAT WAY. SO THAT'S WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT.

AND I'M ALSO A PERSON WHO, WHO DRINKS FROM THE TAP.

I TAKE IT FROM MY REFRIGERATOR. AND I'M THINKING, SHOULD I BE DRINKING FROM THAT REFRIGERATOR ANYMORE? I SHOULD GET THE BOTTLED WATER. BUT THEN YOU HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE BOTTLED WATER CONCERNS.

YOU'RE LIKE, WHAT'S THE LESSER EVIL THERE? BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS IS THIS IS OUR LIVES.

THIS IS, THIS IS OUR BODY. SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING WHAT'S RIGHT FOR IT AND KEEPING OURSELVES AS HEALTHY AS POSSIBLE.

SO THAT'S WHAT MY CONCERN IS. THE GUARDS OF THE RAW SEWAGE SPILL BASICALLY FIGURING OUT WHAT THE PLAN IS THERE AND WHAT'S THE SOLUTION THAT'S BEEN PUT IN PLACE.

SO I GUESS BASED ON YOUR, YOUR, YOUR PROMPT, MR. CHAIRMAN, I GUESS WE COULD PUT A MOTION IN NOT ONLY FOR THOSE TWO THINGS, BUT ALSO FOR THE JUNE RECESS IF YOU WANTED.

WE CAN OPEN UP DISCUSSION ON THE JUNE RECESS, PROBABLY DURING THE BOARD REPORTS TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO DO THAT.

BUT FOR NOW, LET'S STICK TO NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER THREE WITH THE LOCAL CLIMATE RISKS.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT? MR. TEODORO, DID YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? NOTHING FURTHER, MR. CHAIRMAN. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT WILL MOVE US ON TO NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER FOUR, WHICH IS OUTREACH PROGRAMS FOR LOCAL UNIVERSITIES AND SCHOOLS.

AND I BELIEVE, MR. TEODORO, YOU WERE PRESENTED THAT ONE AS WELL.

SORRY, MR. CHAIRMAN. IF WE CAN GO BACK AND I PROBABLY NEED TO DO A MOTION ON THOSE TWO THINGS RIGHT THEN AND THERE.

I MOVE TO DISCUSS THE PFAS FOREVER. CHEMICALS AND DRINK AND THE DRINK WATER ON THE NEXT.

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OKAY. YES. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AT THIS TIME TO DISCUSS PFAS AND INVITE UTILITIES TO THE NEXT SCHEDULED SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD MEETING.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT. OKAY. WE HAVE A SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO. I MOVE TO DISCUSS THE RAW SEWAGE SPILLS AT THE NEXT SCHEDULED MEETING.

OKAY. WE HAVE A SECOND MOTION TO DISCUSS THE RAW SEWAGE SPILLS AT THE NEXT SCHEDULED MEETING.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT AS WELL.

THANK YOU. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO. I BELIEVE THAT WILL MOVE US ON TO A NEW BUSINESS.

ITEM NUMBER FOUR. I KNOW IT SEEMS LIKE I'M BEING A BIT LOQUACIOUS, BUT I'M NOT DOING IT ON PURPOSE.

I DID ATTEMPT TO AND THIS ALSO PERTAINS TO THE PREVIOUS COMMENT.

AND I KNOW I AM A MAN OF MY WORD. I, BUT I DIDN'T REALIZE OUR LIMITS.

SO WHAT I'M REFERRING TO IS HOW WE CAN GO ABOUT AND PUBLISHING THESE THINGS.

SO THE FIRST THING IS WE HAVE THESE, THIS LIST FROM MISS MISS BARBER WITH REGARDS TO NATIVE PLANTS.

AND WE WANTED TO PUBLISH THOSE OUT TO THE LOCAL STORES, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE COMING FROM THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD.

I WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS AS ON BOARD.

AND I NEED TO WORK WITH THE BOARD TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO THAT AND OR THE CITY STAFF TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO THAT CORRECTLY.

I ATTEMPTED TO CONNECT WITH THE EASTERN FLORIDA STATE COLLEGE, THEIR STAFF THERE, BUT THEY'RE PRECLUDED FROM TALKING TO ME BECAUSE OF THEIR RULES.

SO THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO ASSIST ME. AND I FOUND IT QUITE FUNNY BECAUSE I USED TO GO TO BCC.

SO I SAID, OKAY, I'LL COME BACK TO THE BOARD AND MAYBE THE VICE CHAIRMAN, MR. CHAIRMAN, CAN HELP ME OUT THERE. SO WHAT'S THE STATUS? SO BASICALLY THE NATIVE PLANT PROJECT AND PUBLISHING THAT OUT WITH A PITHY MEMO TO THE LOCAL STORES IS ON HOLD PENDING SOME GUIDANCE ON HOW WE CAN IMPLEMENT THAT. AND THEN TWO, I'VE GOT WE'VE GOT SOME KNOWLEDGE NOW ABOUT HOW TO DO THE OUTREACH PROGRAM, BUT TRYING TO FIND PEOPLE THAT ARE ACTUALLY INTERESTED IN COMING TO THIS BOARD BUT ARE NOT PRECLUDED FROM COMING TO THIS BOARD BECAUSE THEY ARE A MEMBER OF A INSTITUTION LIKE EASTERN FLORIDA STATE COLLEGE, WHICH DOESN'T ALLOW THEM TO SPEAK IN THIS IN THIS INSTANCE.

YES. SO THAT'S ACTUALLY BEEN ONE OF MY MAIN FOCUSES SINCE JOINING THE BOARD IS HOW DO WE INCREASE PUBLIC OUTREACH? HOW DO WE INCREASE AWARENESS FOR THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD? HOW DO WE GET MORE INDIVIDUALS IN THE SEATS? BECAUSE I BELIEVE HAVING CITIZENS ENGAGEMENT BRINGS MORE POWER TO THE BOARD. IF WE ARE TALKING TO A ROOM OF EMPTY CHAIRS AND TRY TO PRESENT SOMETHING TO THE CITY COUNCIL, THAT IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT STANDPOINT THAN IF WE WERE TALKING TO A ROOM OF FULL CHAIRS AND PRESENT SOMETHING TO THE CITY COUNCIL. WE HAVE EXPLORED THE POSSIBILITY OF DOING FACEBOOK GROUPS TRYING TO GET ON SOCIAL MEDIA THROUGH AS A BOARD.

WE EXPLORED THAT WITH THE INFORMATION OFFICER FOR THE CITY.

UNFORTUNATELY, WE ARE NOT ABLE TO LEVERAGE CITY RESOURCES FOR THOSE ASPECTS.

THE ONLY WAY THAT WE ARE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES IS BY DOING IT AS INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

SO I HAVE CREATED MY OWN SOCIAL MEDIA PAGE AND I TRY TO PROMOTE AS MUCH AS I CAN THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA, THROUGH THAT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THOUGHT WAS RATHER CLEVER I MET SOME INDIVIDUALS AT A LOCAL EVENT THAT I WAS VOLUNTEERING AT, AND THEY SAID, WELL, WHY CAN'T WE MAKE A.

FRIENDS OF THE PALM BAY SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD FACEBOOK PAGE? AND I WAS LIKE, YOU ABSOLUTELY CAN.

I LOVE THAT IDEA. SO IF THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SUPPORTERS OF THE PALM BAY SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD TO CREATE A PAGE LIKE THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY LEVERAGE SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN RELATIONSHIPS ON THAT STANDPOINT.

I KNOW FOR USING THE CITY LOGO AND CITY NAME AND EVERYTHING.

I, I HATE AI, BUT I, AI GENERATED SOME LOGOS FOR THE PALM BAY SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD FOR MY TABLE BECAUSE I'M NOT ALLOWED TO USE CITY LOGOS.

SO I KIND OF HAVE TRIED TO FIND WAYS TO KIND OF CREATE A BRAND FOR THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD AND WHAT WAYS WE ARE ABLE TO BUT WE HAVE EXPLORED THAT HEAVILY WITH THAT PUBLIC OUTREACH. AND UNFORTUNATELY, LIKE MANY THINGS, OUR HANDS ARE TIED.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE STAND IS UNTIL WE ARE ABLE TO.

I MADE A PRESENTATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL A COUPLE OF MEETINGS BACK OF EVEN REBRANDING US TO THE SUSTAINABILITY ACTION BOARD AND KIND OF LETTING US UNLEASH OURSELVES AND BE ABLE TO DO MORE, AS OPPOSED TO JUST HAVING THE TITLE OF ADVISORY, WHICH SEEMS PASSIVE.

AND AGAIN, IT'S STUFF THAT WE CAN MAKE PROGRESS ON.

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IN THE FUTURE, WE JUST HAVE TO IDENTIFY WAYS TO DO THAT IN A MEANINGFUL AND LOW COST MANNER FOR THE CITY.

AND THEN PRESENT THEM TO CITY COUNCIL. AND I THINK THAT IF WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT, I DO THINK THAT WE WOULD HAVE A PATH FORWARD FOR KIND OF APPROACHING THOSE TYPE OF OPTIONS. BUT AS OF NOW, WHERE WE STAND, WE ARE LIMITED IN WHAT WE CAN DO.

DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS ON HOW WE CAN INCREASE OUTREACH FOR THE BOARD.

IN MY EXPERIENCE WHEN TRYING TO GET SUPPORT FROM SCHOOLS, THE UNIVERSITIES, THEY ARE NOT COOPERATIVE, BUT THE HIGH SCHOOLS MAYBE AND LIBRARIES WE CAN, IF WE CAN ARRANGE PRESENTATIONS IN A LIBRARY, YOU KNOW, AND IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO SPEAK ON SOMETHING, OR IF WE FIND SOMEONE KNOWLEDGEABLE, WHO WOULD, I THINK THOSE ARE THE BEST PLACES TO GO AND YOU'LL GET LESS PUSHBACK.

AND I INDEPENDENTLY HAVE DEVELOPED A COUPLE OF RELATIONSHIPS THROUGH VOLUNTEERING WITH DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS, WITH SOME INDIVIDUALS AT SOME PROFESSORS AT FIT.

I COULD TRY TO LEVERAGE THOSE RELATIONSHIPS TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S ANY PLAY AND ABILITY FOR FIT PROFESSORS TO COME PARTICIPATE IN THE BOARD OR DO PRESENTATIONS FOR US.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. AND I ALSO KNOW OUR FREQUENT VISITOR HERE.

HE'S NOT HERE TONIGHT. I'M SURPRISED. HE ALSO USED TO WORK AT FIT.

I HAVEN'T YET GONE TO THEIR ENVIRONMENTAL SECTION, BUT THAT'D BE GREAT. IF WE COULD, WE COULD UTILIZE THE FIT CONTACT.

HIGH SCHOOL CONTACT. VICE CHAIRMAN, THAT'S A GREAT.

I ACTUALLY SPOKE WITH THE BREVARD PUBLIC SCHOOLS CONTACT, AND I WILL I WILL LEVERAGE THAT IN THE FUTURE.

SO WITH YOUR PROMPTING MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL PUT A MOTION.

YES, SIR. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? MOTION TO TABLE THE DISCUSSION.

WITH REGARDS TO OUTREACH PROGRAMS AT LOCAL UNIVERSITIES AND SCHOOLS UNTIL SUCH TIME AS WE ARE ABLE TO FIND A POC THAT CAN COME COME OUT TO OUR, OUR, OUR BOARD MEETINGS. EXCELLENT. I HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE THE OUTREACH PROGRAMS FOR LOCAL SCHOOLS AND UNIVERSITIES.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. I HAVE A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO. WITH THAT WE WILL MOVE ON TO OTHER BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER ONE WHICH IS

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AND ALSO LOOKING AT THE FROST THAT WE EXPERIENCED AND HOW SUSTAINABLE PUTTING PLANTS IN THOSE BOXES WOULD BE.

SO I SUGGEST IT'S SOME SORT OF SCULPTURE WITH REFLECTORS.

BUT ASIDE FROM THAT, SINCE THEN, I'VE FOUND THERE'S A NEW HYBRID PETUNIA THAT IS BIOLUMINESCENT.

AND I THOUGHT IF WE SURROUNDED JUST IN FRONT OF IT IN THE CORNER IT'S ACTUALLY THE HYBRID IS IT COMES FROM BIOLUMINESCENT MUSHROOMS. AND PETUNIAS PRETTY MUCH LAST FOREVER.

IN THIS CLIMATE THEY WOULD I BELIEVE THE ONES THAT ARE WHITE, THEY'RE WHITE AND THEY'RE CALLED FIREFLY PETUNIAS. SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER BECAUSE WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET SUFFICIENT LIGHT.

WHEN PEOPLE MAKE THAT TURN, THEY'RE NOT RUNNING INTO THE MONOLITH.

YOU KNOW, IT WAS JUST A SUGGESTION. BUT AS FAR AS BEING A SUSTAINABLE SUGGESTION, I THINK IT WOULD LAST LONGER.

AND I ALSO FOUND THERE'S A SUSTAINABLE GRASS THAT ONLY GROWS ONE INCH THE EFFECT ON OUR WATER SUPPLY. WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO CUT GRASS, YOU DON'T GET THE CLIPPINGS IN THE WATER.

YOU DON'T GET THE CHEMICALS. AND IT IT MITIGATES.

CUTTING GRASS. IT DOESN'T GET INTO THE STORM WATER.

SO I THINK IN THE LONG RUN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD SERIOUSLY LOOK AT.

IT'S A ZOYSIA GRASS. IT'S THICK, IT HAS DEEP ROOTS, BUT THE MAXIMUM GROWTH IS ONE INCH.

AND IT, IT APPARENTLY IS VERY LUSH. SO I THINK IN THE LONG RUN PROBABLY WOULD TAKE SOME FINANCING OR WE,

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BUT I THINK IT'S A REALLY INTERESTING THING. AND IF NEW DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE COMPELLED TO USE THAT WITH A LAYER OF BIOCHAR INSTEAD OF OTHER FERTILIZER, THIS GRASS GROWS TO THE FULL ONE INCH REASONABLY FAST.

AND WE WOULD JUST SAVE SO MUCH TIME AND MONEY IF WE DID THAT.

AND OUR WATER WOULD NOT HAVE THE ISSUES. OUR CANALS WOULD NOT GET JAMMED UP, THE CULVERTS WOULDN'T GET STUFFED WITH YOU KNOW, GRASS CUTTINGS, WHICH IS PROBABLY MOST OF WHAT WINDS UP IN THOSE STORM DRAINS.

SO I THOUGHT THOSE THINGS WERE INTERESTING. BUT THE OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE FOR THE JUNE AGENDA, ASSUMING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING ONE, IS I WOULD LIKE TO DO A PRESENTATION ON CLEAN WATER AND AQUIFER REPLENISHMENT.

I HAVE A FEW DESIGNS THAT I THINK MIGHT HELP AND MITIGATE THE SERIOUS ISSUE OF OUR WATER SUPPLY.

AND I HOPE THAT THAT WILL BE OKAY FOR ME TO PRESENT THAT.

NOW I KNOW WE CAN DO PICTURES. IT'S GREAT. I THINK IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT YOU CAN PUT FORTH A MOTION.

AND WE CAN HAVE A VOTE ON IT. OKAY. I MOVE THAT I BE ALLOWED TO ADD TO THE AGENDA AN ITEM ON CLEAN WATER AND AQUIFER REPLENISHMENT SOLUTIONS. EXCELLENT. WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADD TO THE NEXT MEETING'S AGENDA.

A PRESENTATION ON CLEAN WATER AND AQUIFER REPLENISHMENT.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. I HAVE A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO.

DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR BOARD REPORT? YES. EXCELLENT.

THANK YOU. FOR ONCE. I DON'T TALK A LOT. DO I HAVE A SECOND BOARD REPORT PREPARED.

I'LL JUST KEEP GOING ON HERE. OFF TO MY RIGHT. SINCE I'M ALREADY LOOKING THAT WAY. AWESOME. I'LL GO NEXT. FIRST UP, I JUST HAD A QUESTION. DO WE STILL HAVE THE TREATS, BEATS, AND EATS GOING ON? I DIDN'T SEE ANY UPDATED UPDATED DATES ON THE CALENDAR, SO I WAS JUST WONDERING WHEN THE NEXT ONES WOULD BE.

YES, WE STILL HAVE FUTURE EVENTS TO LOOK FORWARD TO.

THE NEXT ONE IN JUNE, I BELIEVE IS THE, I WANT TO SAY THE 22ND.

THERE IS NO MEETING FOR JULY. I'LL GO AHEAD AND SEND THAT INFORMATION OUT AGAIN.

TO KEEP YOU GUYS UP TO DATE AGAIN, WE'LL HAVE A TABLE FOR YOU. IF ANYBODY WANTS TO COME.

JUST, JUST LET US KNOW. I CAN EVEN FOLLOW UP A COUPLE DAYS IN ADVANCE JUST TO REMIND EVERYBODY.

I BELIEVE I WAS GOING TO WAIT UNTIL OTHER BUSINESS FOR THE OTHER MEETINGS, BUT THE, THIS EVENT FOR JUNE, GIVEN THE, THE, THE CLIMATE, IT'S GOING TO BE CHANGED TO SACRIFICE PARK.

SO IT WON'T BE OUTSIDE OF CITY HALL AS IT'S BEEN PRIOR.

SO IT MAY BE A SMALLER SPACE, BUT PUBLIC WORKS WILL STILL BE THERE.

SO OKAY. AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE THE JULY OR AUGUST DATES YET.

ARE WE JUST KIND OF MOVING ON A MONTHLY BASIS WITH THAT? YEAH, IT'S USUALLY THE THIRD OR FOURTH FRIDAY OF EVERY MONTH.

AGAIN, THERE'S THERE'S NOT ONE IN JULY. I'M NOT SURE THE REASONING BEHIND THAT, BUT THEY, THEY HAVE WE HAVE ONE MORE. AND THEN THEY WILL CONTINUE IN AUGUST.

OKAY. THANK YOU. I WAS JUST TRYING TO I KNOW YOU SAID WE SHOULD HAVE SOME TOPICS FOR THOSE.

SO I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF THERE'S ANY DATES AROUND THAT. NOT A PROBLEM. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

MY OTHER QUESTION WAS GOING TO BE RELATING TO NEMO GARDENS.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF DATES I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE FOR LIKE A CLEANUP DAY.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT WE NEED, WHAT THE PROCESS IS TO SET UP A CLEANUP DAY.

I KNOW YOU SAID WE HAVE TO HAVE A WAIVER FOR VOLUNTEERS.

WITH THERE NOT BEING ANY PARKING IN THAT AREA. I'M JUST NOT SURE IF WE'RE ALLOWED TO INVITE THE PUBLIC OUT TO COME MEET US THERE TO PULL WEEDS AND SOME INVASIVE SPECIES, JUST TO KIND OF START BUILDING A COMMUNITY OF VOLUNTEERS.

I KNOW WE NEED HELP WITH THE SOLARIZATION PROJECT, TRYING TO GET THAT DONE WITHOUT BUSTING INTO A BUDGET.

SO JUST TRYING TO START GETTING PEOPLE RALLIED TOGETHER.

HOW DO WE GO ABOUT PROPOSING A DATE FOR THAT? I ACTUALLY WAS GOING TO BRING THIS UP IN MY BOARD REPORT.

COUNCILMAN HAMMER ACTUALLY HAD A MEETING AT NEAR AND NIMMO GARDENS THIS PAST WEEK.

THEY ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE DOING A NIMMO GARDENS CLEANUP THIS SATURDAY AT 7 A.M..

SO THAT IS A GOOD STARTING POINT FOR US. I HAVE VOLUNTEERED MY TIME.

I WILL BE OUT THERE ON THE MORNING OF SATURDAY AS WELL. IN A MASTER NATURALIST ROLE IDENTIFYING WHAT IS NATIVE AND WHAT IS INVASIVE AND WHAT WE SHOULD PULL AND WHAT WE SHOULDN'T PULL. AND PROBABLY DOING LOTS OF PULLING MYSELF.

BUT THAT WOULD BE A GOOD STARTING POINT. WORKING WITH COUNCILMAN HAMMER AND THE GROUP THAT HE'S ALREADY ENGAGED WITH AND WORKING WITH, FINDING DATES FOR THE FUTURE BEYOND THIS SATURDAY.

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LET'S SEE. SORRY. AND THEN MY OTHER QUESTION WOULD BE, I GUESS WITH THE SOLARIZATION PROJECT, IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE CAN JUST SORT OF BE LIKE, HEY, THIS DAY WE'RE GOING TO GET TOGETHER AND TRY TO PUT THAT SOLARIZATION BACK DOWN. I KNOW YOU SAID WE MIGHT NEED SOME PROFESSIONALS TO TO HELP WITH GUIDANCE WITH.

I KNOW WE'VE EXPERIENCE WE HAVE EXPERIENCE IN THE PUBLIC AUDIENCE WHO IS ABLE TO HELP.

HOW DO WE GET THAT PROJECT ROLLING? I WOULD HAPPY VOLUNTEER MY TIME AND SHOW UP ON A SATURDAY AND GET THOSE THINGS PUT DOWN IF YOU CAN.

THAT IS ANOTHER ONE THAT WAS ON MY BOARD REPORT. SO WE ARE IN LOCKSTEP ON THAT.

JUST BRIEFLY, SINCE YOU BROUGHT IT UP, I WILL TOUCH ON WHAT I WAS GOING TO TOUCH ON FOR THE MEMORIAL GARDEN.

I'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH MISS JANE HIGGINS, WHO USED TO BE A MEMBER OF THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD.

EVEN THOUGH SHE IS UP IN JACKSONVILLE, SHE IS STILL ASSISTING WITH THAT PROJECT.

SHE HAS BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH THE FLORIDA WILDFLOWER FOUNDATION.

IT DOES NOT APPEAR LIKELY THAT WE ARE GOING TO RECEIVE FUNDS IN A RELATIVELY QUICK MANNER FOR THAT.

ONE OF THE UPDATES THAT I WANTED TO PROVIDE THOUGH, WAS ACTUALLY FROM GOING TO THE LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

CONGRESSMAN BILL POSEY PASSED AWAY. AND THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ON HOW THE CITY COULD INTERACT WITH THAT AND PROVIDE REMEMBRANCE AND A PLACE TO HONOR COUNCILMAN POSEY. CONGRESSMAN POSEY WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH MISS HIGGINS AND OUR OTHER PARTNERS, OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS ON THE REMEMBRANCE GARDENS. WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT POTENTIALLY GOING INTO A PHASED OPTION WITH THAT TO WHERE WE HAVE A COMMUNITY PARTNER WHO IS GOING TO DONATE 7500 DOLLARS WORTH OF MATERIALS AND LABOR TO PUT IN A REFLECTION POND EFFECTIVELY A SUSTAINABLE REFLECTION POND WITH THAT.

THEY WOULD LIKE TO VERY MUCH GO ON THAT. AND WE THINK THAT IF WE PHASE THIS DOWN INTO A SMALLER PROJECT, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY ACCESS THOSE FLORIDA WILDFLOWER FOUNDATION FUNDS.

SO THAT WAS SOMETHING I WAS GOING TO BRING UP IS THAT WE NEED TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION IN THE JUNE MEETING.

WE WILL NEED COUNCIL APPROVAL BEFORE WE START BEING ABLE TO PUT DOWN ANY OF THE SOLARIZATION AND DOING ACTING ON IT.

AND SINCE THEY ARE ON RECESS THROUGH THE MONTH OF JUNE, WE CAN'T NECESSARILY MAKE THAT PRESENTATION JUST YET.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO BRING THAT TO. I KNOW THAT WE HARP ON ABOUT THE REMEMBRANCE GARDENS ON A REGULAR BASIS, BUT I DO THINK WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOMETHING ACTIONABLE THAT WE CAN DO AND BREAK THAT PROJECT DOWN INTO SEPARATE PHASES AND BRING THAT FIRST PHASE UP TO CITY COUNCIL.

AND I DO THINK WE HAVE THE FUNDING AVAILABLE. WE HAVE THE WILLINGNESS AVAILABLE TO DO A FIRST PHASE WITH THAT, AND WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO START GETTING THAT ROLLING AND GET APPROVAL ON THAT, HOPEFULLY IN THE 1ST JULY MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

OKAY. SO JUST TO CLARIFY, WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO PUSH FORWARD WITH REFLECTION POND FIRST.

KIND OF TAKE UP SOME OF THE SPACE AND THEN PUT DOWN THE SOLARIZATION.

SO WE WE WOULD WANT TO DO THE SOLARIZATION FIRST.

OKAY. SO THE WAY I ENVISION IT IS GET APPROVAL IN JULY TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PHASED VERSION OF THE GARDEN.

ONCE WE HAVE THAT APPROVAL, THEN WE CAN COME IN IN JULY AND PUT THE SOLARIZATION DOWN.

THEN WE WOULD BE ABLE TO INSTALL THE, THE REMEMBRANCE GARDEN ASPECT OF IT WITH SOME OF THE NATIVE PLANTS AND SOME OF THE PARTS THAT MOVE THE BENCH.

THAT'S PART OF THE PROJECT AS WELL OF IT. AND DO THAT DEDICATION IN NOVEMBER WITH THAT TIME FRAME THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT AND POTENTIALLY TRYING TO MEET MISS CONNOLLY'S PASSING. I THINK IF WE ARE ABLE TO APPROACH IT THAT WAY AND AGAIN, WE NEED TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION, ANOTHER BOARD MEMBER MEETING SO WE CAN GET MORE IN DEPTH TO IT.

I THINK THAT WE DO HAVE A PATH FORWARD TO WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY START HAVING SOME ACTION ON THAT. OKAY. SO WE'RE GOING TO USE ANOTHER MEETING TO COME UP WITH A PLAN TO PRESENT.

OKAY. CORRECT THE NEXT MEETING. YES. DO WE NEED A MOTION FOR THAT? WE DO NEED WE DO NEED A MOTION ON THAT.

OKAY. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADD A DISCUSSION FOR THE REMEMBRANCE GARDEN PHASED PLANNING TO THE JUNE MEETING.

THANK YOU. I HAVE A MOTION TO ADD TO THE JUNE MEETING.

A DISCUSSION ON THE PHASE PLAN FOR THE REMEMBRANCE GARDEN.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER ON YOUR BOARD REPORT? NOPE. THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. MISS ZIEGLER, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FOR YOUR BOARD REPORT TONIGHT? NO. THANK YOU. MR.. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FOR YOUR BOARD REPORT TONIGHT? JUST, MR. CHAIR, REAL QUICK, I JUST WANT TO CAPTURE THE DIFFERENT PROJECTS WE'RE LOOKING AT, LOOKING AT THE REMEMBRANCE GARDEN.

WHAT'S THE OTHER PROJECT YOU TALKED ABOUT WORKING ON SATURDAY? SOMETHING ABOUT A NEW GARDEN. NEMO GARDENS. NEMO. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL.

THANK YOU. NO. SO YOU HAVE NO FURTHER REPORT TONIGHT? NOTHING AT THIS TIME. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO I WILL MOVE ON TO MY REPORT, AND I'VE GOT ABOUT 17 MINUTES, BUT I WILL BLOW THROUGH IT AS QUICK AS I CAN. FIRST OFF, I WANTED TO THANK PUBLIC WORKS FOR HAVING A GREAT OPEN HOUSE.

THIS PAST WHATEVER IT WAS I'VE COMPLETE TIME AS A FOREIGN CONCEPT.

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I GREATLY APPRECIATED THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A TABLE THERE.

I HAD A LOT OF ENGAGEMENT WITH THE PUBLIC TALKING ABOUT MOSQUITO BUCKETS.

KIND OF TO MISS XENA'S POINT AS TO WHAT MY TOPIC COULD BE.

I KIND OF HAVE DECIDED THAT I THINK THAT MIGHT BE MY DEFAULT TOPIC WHEN I GO TO TREAT TREATS AND EATS IS I CAN CARRY A MOSQUITO BUCKET AROUND AND TALK TO THE PUBLIC ABOUT HOW MOSQUITO BUCKETS WORK. IT WORKED REALLY WELL AT THE THE PUBLIC WORKS.

SO THAT WAS A GREAT DEMONSTRATION FOR THE DEMONSTRATION.

SO I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD TOPIC GOING FORWARD.

IF WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING WE CAN COME UP WITH AS A BOARD AS TO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SPECIFICALLY FOCUS ON FOR TREATS, BEATS AND EATS. HAVING THAT MOSQUITO BUCKET AVAILABLE AND WE MAY BE ABLE TO GRACIOUSLY PASS A MOSQUITO BUCKET OFF TO DEREK.

THAT WAY THE MOSQUITO BUCKET TRAVELS WITH PUBLIC WORKS.

THAT WAY IF THEY, WHOEVER MIGHT SHOW UP WOULD HAVE A MOSQUITO BUCKET AVAILABLE AND DOESN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT PASSING IT OFF ACROSS THE BOARD THEMSELVES.

SECOND ITEM IS AT THE MRC I WAS WORKING ON AN INVASIVE SPECIES CLEANUP.

THAT WAS FANTASTIC. I'M PROBABLY ONE OF THE FEW HUMAN BEINGS ON THE PLANET WHO LIKE GETTING COVERED IN BRAZILIAN PEPPER CUTTINGS AND BY AIR POTATOES AND GETTING DIRTY AND HOT FOR 3.5 HOURS. BUT I HAD A BLAST WITH IT. ONE OF THE THINGS I'D LIKE TO SEE US DO AS A BOARD IN THE FUTURE, IF ANYBODY IS INTERESTED IS MORE VOLUNTEER OPPORTUNITIES WITH MRC.

THEY'RE CONSTANTLY DOING EVENTS. THEY ARE LOCATED IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

THEY'RE A GREAT PARTNER. THE LAGOON HOUSE IS A FANTASTIC PLACE TO BE DOING THINGS.

I THINK THERE ARE PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD TO BRING ATTENTION TO WHAT MRC IS DOING AND IN TURN, BUILD THAT RELATIONSHIP WITH MRC TO WHERE THEY CAN COME BACK TO THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD AND ASSIST US WITH THINGS THAT THEY ARE SPECIALIZED ON.

SO I THINK DEVELOPING THAT TWO WAY STREET WOULD GO A LONG WAY, AND A LOT OF THAT IS GOING TO BE US GOING OUT AND VOLUNTEERING FOR THEIR EVENTS.

I HAVE A NEW WHATEVER SOMETHING THIS SATURDAY.

I HAVE A NEW VOLUNTEER EVENT THAT I'M DOING WITH MRC AS WELL, SO I CAN LEARN HOW TO TABLE WITH THEM.

THAT WAY I CAN KIND OF DUAL PURPOSE THAT OCCASIONALLY WORK WITH HELP ASSIST THEM.

MEETING EVENT RESPONSIBILITIES AND ALSO BE ABLE TO REPRESENT THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD DURING THEIR EVENTS AS WELL.

ANOTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO BRING UP IS ACTUALLY KIND OF TIED TO THE MRC. I'VE BEEN FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO BE REACHED OUT TO BY MULTIPLE CITIZENS ON A HANDFUL OF OCCASIONS.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE A NEW AUDIENCE MEMBER WHO WAS ONE OF THE ONES WHO REACHED OUT TO ME RECENTLY.

AND I APPRECIATE THAT REACH OUT. WE ARE GROWING AS MORE ATTENTION TO THE BOARD.

AND THAT IS A GREAT THING. COUNCILMAN HAMMER ACTUALLY SAID AT THE HIS MEETING THAT HE HAD WITH NEMO GARDENS, HE BROUGHT UP MY NAME AND THERE WERE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY HAD RECOGNITION OF WHO I WAS. WHICH IS WEIRD TO ME.

BUT IT DOES MEAN THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD IS STARTING TO REACH THE PUBLIC IN LARGE.

SO I THINK OUR ENGAGEMENT EFFORTS ARE WORKING AND I WANTED TO GIVE SOME ENCOURAGEMENT TO YOU GUYS THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD THE BIGGER WE GET, THE MORE MOMENTUM WE GET WHERE WE MAY BE A SMALL LITTLE SNOWBALL ROLLING DOWN THE HILL RIGHT NOW.

BUT IF WE KEEP THIS UP, I DO THINK THAT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO REALLY GOOD THINGS IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BECAUSE WE ARE STARTING TO GET THAT TRACK OR THAT GAIN, THAT TRACTION AND THAT AWARENESS FROM OUR CITIZENS.

NEXT UP ON MY THING DURING THE BUDGET WORKSHOP ON MAY 13TH I ACTUALLY WAS ONE OF, WELL, ONE OF, I WAS THE ONLY PUBLIC COMMENTER AT THE BUDGET WORKSHOP FOR THE CITY HALL.

DURING THAT TIME FRAME, I DID PRESENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL THAT THEY WERE DISCUSSING A BUNCH OF OFFICIAL DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY THAT HAVE BUDGETS AND HOW THEY WANTED TO DO THE NUMBERS AND WHATNOT. I THREW MY HAT INTO THE RING WITH THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD AND DID ASK FOR LIKE A $500 A MONTH MODEST BUDGET.

THAT WAY THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD WOULD BE ABLE TO BUDGET OUR WAY INTO DOING LARGER SCALE PROJECTS.

AS I PRESENTED IT TO THEM PLANTS COST MONEY. MULCH COSTS MONEY, VOLUNTEER LABOR.

WE CAN PROBABLY ORGANIZE, BUT THE MONEY IS THE HARD ASPECT OF IT.

IT DIDN'T SEEM LIKE THAT WAS A WHOLEHEARTEDLY REJECTED IDEA.

SO I THINK THAT THERE IS SOME OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITHIN THE CITY BUDGET AS THEY CONTINUE FORWARD FOR FISCAL YEAR 27 TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S OPTIONAL.

ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WAS SUGGESTED IN A COUPLE OF CITY MEETINGS THAT I PRESENTED AT THE TIME WAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE AN ACCOUNT THROUGH THE CITY ITSELF.

THAT WAY WE COULD SOLICIT DONATIONS FROM INDIVIDUALS AND BUSINESSES WITHIN THE PALM BAY AREA.

THAT WAY WE, WE HAVE GRACIOUS PARTNERS THAT ARE 501 C THREE THAT ARE ABLE TO HANDLE THESE DONATIONS.

BUT I DO THINK THAT BEING ABLE TO DO IT AS A BOARD AND BRING ON THOSE INVESTMENTS INTO THE COMMUNITY AND SUSTAINABILITY WITHIN PALM BAY WOULD BE A GREAT OPTION.

THAT WAS AGAIN, SOMETHING THAT KIND OF DIDN'T SEEM TO FALL FLAT WHEN I PRESENTED IT.

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NEXT UP WAS THE NEMO GARDENS. I'M NOT GOING TO RELITIGATE THAT.

LIKE I SAID, COUNCILMAN HAMER HAD A MEETING. WE ARE GOING TO BE ACTING ON THAT BEGINNING THIS SATURDAY.

SO IF ANYBODY IS INTERESTED IN JOINING US SATURDAY AT 7 A.M., NEMO GARDENS WE WILL BE OUT THERE PULLING PLANTS, SLINGING DIRT AND SEEING WHAT ALL WE CAN DO. WE DID HAVE A COUNCILMAN HAMER DID SAY THAT A LOCAL BUSINESS IS GOING TO PROVIDE SOME ARBORIST CHIPS FOR MULCH AND DONATE SOME MULCH FOR US, SO THAT'S GOING TO BE A GOOD IDEA.

HE HAD SOME RENDERINGS THAT HE SHARED WITH ME.

IT LOOKS FANTASTIC. I WAS HOPING HE MIGHT BE ABLE TO HOP IN TONIGHT AND PRESENT THOSE.

BUT UNFORTUNATELY, HE WAS NOT ABLE TO THE MEMORIAL GARDEN AGAIN.

WE ALREADY HAVE THAT ONTO THE AGENDA. SO I WON'T BRING THAT BACK UP AGAIN.

BUT AGAIN, THAT PHASING, I DO THINK WE DO HAVE A PATH FORWARD ON THAT FINALLY, AS OPPOSED TO KIND OF SITTING BACK AND BEING IN WAIT AND SEE MODE.

I THINK WE ARE ABLE TO ACTUALLY START TAKING ACTION ON THAT.

I MENTIONED THE OTHER THING, WHICH WAS THE FRIENDS OF FACEBOOK PAGE TO BRING AWARENESS.

THAT WAS A GREAT FAN OR GREAT SUGGESTION THAT WAS BROUGHT UP TO ME BY A CITIZEN.

I AM NOT GOING TO SUGGEST I'M JUST GOING TO THROW IT OUT INTO THE VOID IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT, THAT IS NOT ON THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD AND CREATE A FRIENDS OF THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD.

WE WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO COORDINATE THAT.

THEY CAN REACH OUT TO ME. AND WE CAN SEE WHAT KIND OF OPPORTUNITIES WE MIGHT HAVE GOING ON WITH DOING SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.

AND LASTLY, THE THING THAT I HAVE BEEN KIND OF BABYING IS THE PALM BAY SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD CALENDAR, WHICH AGAIN IS URL.COM/PB A B CALENDAR. I HAVE RUN OUT OF EVENTS ON THERE.

I KIND OF FILLED IT THROUGH MAY. AND SO I WAS GOING TO SIT DOWN THIS SUNDAY AND FORD FILL IT THROUGH PROBABLY JUNE AND JULY.

SO IF THERE WAS ANY EVENTS OR AWARENESS, ENVIRONMENTAL AWARENESS DAYS THAT ANYBODY ON THE CITY COUNCIL IS THAT CITY COUNCIL, NATIONAL GARDEN WEEK, JUNE 7TH TO 13TH. OKAY.

THAT WAS JUNE 7TH TO 15TH, 13TH, 13TH. YEAH. SO I WILL PUT THAT ON THE CALENDAR.

IF THERE IS ANY OTHER ONES THAT ANYBODY KNOWS ABOUT I BELIEVE YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO REACH OUT TO CITY STAFF AND THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO PASS THAT ALONG.

MR. CHAIRPERSON, JUST TO TAKE THIS TIME TO RECTIFY A MISTAKE FROM EARLIER.

YES. TREATS, BEATS AND EATS FOR JUNE WILL BE JUNE, JUNE 12TH, NOT THE 22ND WILL BE JUNE 12TH.

AND BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY TWO MORE EVENTS AFTER THAT, THEY HAVEN'T FILLED OUT THE REST OF THE YEAR.

I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WILL. IT GOES TILL SEPTEMBER.

I'LL GIVE YOU THOSE DATES. NOW, YOU CAN PUT THOSE IN THE CALENDAR AS WELL. OKAY. AND I'LL STILL FOLLOW UP WITH THAT EMAIL. THAT WAY YOU HAVE IT IN WRITING AS WELL. SO IT'S JUNE 12TH FROM 530 TO 8, AND THEN AUGUST 21ST AND SEPTEMBER 18TH.

AND IT'S ALL THE SAME TIME. EXCELLENT. I WILL MAKE SURE THAT THOSE GET ONTO THE CALENDAR.

I DID HAVE JUNE 12TH ON MY CALENDAR, SO I WAS A LITTLE WORRIED I HAD PUT THAT WRONG DATE ALREADY AHEAD OF THE GAME.

YEAH, I GUESS I WAS AHEAD OF THE GAME ON THAT ONE.

THANK YOU. SO IF ANYBODY HAS ANY SUGGESTIONS AGAIN REACH OUT TO CITY STAFF.

THEY WILL TRY TO PASS IT ALONG TO ME AND I WILL TRY TO GET IT ONTO THE CALENDAR. IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE ACCESS TO THE CALENDAR I BELIEVE I CAN SHARE THAT AND ALLOW INDIVIDUALS TO ADD ON TO THAT. I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE IN VIOLATION OF SUNSHINE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT DISCUSSING ANYTHING OR DOING ANYTHING ACTIONABLE.

WE'RE JUST ADDING STUFF TO A CALENDAR. SO I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO SHARE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF FILLING THAT CALENDAR OUT WITH ANYBODY IF THEY'RE INTERESTED.

OKAY. I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS THE TIME, BUT SINCE AUGUST 21ST IS NATIONAL HONEY BEE DAY, MAYBE THAT COULD BE OUR TOPIC OF DISCUSSION FOR THAT DAY.

TALKING ABOUT POLLINATORS AND THE IMPORTANCE OF HONEY BEES, I KNOW SOME PEOPLE ARE STILL AFRAID OF THEM, BUT THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY LIKE REALLY CUTE AND WE NEED THEM. SO MAYBE WE COULD FOCUS THAT FOR THAT DAY.

AND THEN SINCE WE'RE NOT HAVING A MEETING OR A TREE SPECIES IN JULY, I'M SORRY, I SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT THIS UP EARLIER, BUT I WAS WONDERING IF THERE'S ANY POTENTIAL TO DO LIKE A CLEAN BEACH, A BEACH CLEANUP OVER ON ALONG THE LAGOON, NOT THE ACTUAL BEACH BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE PROPERTY ON THE BEACH, BUT ALONG THE LAGOON BEACHES BECAUSE THERE IS CLEAN BEACH WEEK.

JULY 1ST. SO I WANTED TO BRING IT UP NOW BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO REALLY HAVE A LOT OF TIME AFTER OUR NEXT MEETING TO DISCUSS THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE WANT TO DISCUSS AT THE NEXT MEETING TO PLAN, OR IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN PLAN FOR NOW. BUT I WOULD LOVE TO MAYBE US GET TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, GET THE COMMUNITY INVOLVED AND JUST KIND OF, AGAIN, WITH THOSE VOLUNTEER GROUPS KIND OF. TRYING TO BUILD, BUILD THAT REPORT. THAT IS A

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SO IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING THE FIRST WEEK OF JULY.

AND THEN THE HONEYBEE WAS AUGUST 21ST. YES, SIR.

OKAY. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US DO A CLEAN BEACH IF WE ARE ABLE TO ORGANIZE THAT.

I THINK WE WOULD HAVE TO WORK WITH PROBABLY FACILITIES TO FIND OUT WHAT AREAS WE ACTUALLY WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO.

I KNOW LIKE CASTAWAY SHORE, WE ARE CASTAWAY COVE, WE WOULD PROBABLY BE ABLE TO GET INTO BUT I THINK SOME OF THE OTHER SHORELINES WHICH ARE LESS DEVELOPED, WE MIGHT HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THE LOGISTICS ON THAT.

SO I THINK WE MIGHT WANT TO BRING THAT BACK TO THE JUNE MEETING.

AND JUST IN THE MEANTIME, WE CAN TRY TO WORK ON IT AS INDIVIDUALS AND CONTACT.

I HAVE SOME CONTACTS WITH PARKS TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO LET US HOST AN EVENT LIKE THAT.

OKAY, SO HOW DOES THAT WORK IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE REACHING OUT, I DON'T WANT TO DOUBLE REACH OUT. SO I'M JUST GONNA LET THAT BE YOU AND YOU'RE GOING TO OR DO YOU WANT ME TO KIND OF REACH OUT AND I'LL REPORT BACK TO YOU? HOW DOES LIKE THIS WHOLE SUNSHINE THING? IT MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT TO CONDUCT BUSINESS. I WILL DEFER TO YOU IF YOU WANT TO REACH OUT TO PARKS AND REC REGARDING THIS THAT WAY WE CAN KIND OF SPLIT OUR EFFORTS. BECAUSE I, I JUGGLE A LOT OF BALLS RIGHT NOW AND I DON'T WANT ONE TO FALL BY THE WAYSIDE.

SO IF YOU'RE ABLE TO CHAMPION THAT I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY FOR YOU TO LET YOU REACH OUT TO THAT.

AND THEN WE CAN BRING IT BACK UP IN THE BOARD REPORTS FOR THE JUNE MEETING AND WE CAN MAKE A MOTION AT THAT TIME.

OKAY. SO PARKS AND FACILITIES IS THE REACH OUT. WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A MOTION IN JUNE TO POTENTIALLY HOPEFULLY STILL PLAN IT FOR THAT FIRST WEEK IN JULY. SO KIND OF JUST OKAY, PERFECT. THANK YOU. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TIME FOR MORE PUBLIC COMMENTS, I KNOW.

I APOLOGIZE. LAST BOARD REPORT MEETING, I ACTUALLY THAT CONCLUDES MY BOARD REPORT.

WE HAVE FOUR MINUTES REMAINING. FOR OTHER BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS UPCOMING MEETINGS.

AND IN OUR EVENTS OF INTEREST DO WE HAVE ANY BOARD MEMBERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT ANY UPCOMING EVENTS OR MEETINGS OF INTEREST? I THINK THAT WAS COVERED IN OUR CALENDAR DISCUSSION.

YES, IT WAS A BIT COVERED IN THE CALENDAR DISCUSSION.

IDEALLY I WILL KEEP THAT CALENDAR AS UPDATED AS I CAN.

SO IF WE DO HAVE UPCOMING MEETINGS AND INTEREST OF EVENTS WE CAN ADD IT TO THE CALENDAR.

AND THEN WE ALWAYS HAVE A RUNNING LIST OF WHAT THOSE EVENTS ARE GOING TO BE FOR THE, THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY.

ALL RIGHT. I BELIEVE THAT CONCLUDES OUR DISCUSSION FOR TONIGHT.

WE WILL ADJOURN THIS MEETING AT 756.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.