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MAY I HAVE ROLL CALL, PLEASE? OH, SORRY. YES.
WE WILL START WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
ALL RIGHT. MAY I HAVE ROLL CALL, PLEASE? MARVIN TEDDER.
REBECCA ZIEGLER. PRESENT. EILEEN. SEP. HERE. ANTHONY ABBOTT HERE.
DOUGLAS HOOK PRESIDENT. CHRISTINE JOHNSON. WE HAVE QUORUM.
THANK YOU. WE WILL START OFF THE MEETING TONIGHT WITH PUBLIC COMMENTS.
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WE DO HAVE ONE PUBLIC COMMENT CARD, MISS LYDIA BARBER.I'M TALKING ABOUT RECYCLING GLASS IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS.
A LOT A LOT HAS HAPPENED. AND IT STARTED WITH A MEETING THAT DOUG AND I HAD WITH JOANNE STANLEY, WHO IS THE MANAGER FOR MUNICIPAL SALES FOR REPUBLIC SERVICES, AND SHE TOLD US SOME REALLY IMPORTANT THINGS.
THERE IS NO CONCERN ABOUT US HAVING TO NOT HAVE A NON-COMPETE SITUATION.
WE ARE FREE TO DO WHATEVER WE WANT TO DO WITH RECYCLING GLASS.
THE SECOND THING THAT SHE TOLD US THAT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT IS THAT OF ALL THE OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO US, THE ONE THAT WILL GET US THE BEST RESPONSE FROM OUR CITIZENS IS TO HAVE A REGULARLY PLANNED PLACE TO RECYCLE GLASS ON A REGULAR SCHEDULE, SO THAT THEY CAN COUNT ON DOING THAT.
SHE ALSO POINTED US TO COCONUT CREEK, WHICH IS A PLACE IN BROWARD COUNTY THAT HAS BEEN RECYCLING GLASS AND HAVING CITIZENS BRING ALL OF THEIR RECYCLING TO THEM FOR SOME TIME.
THEY'RE GOING BACK TO JUST HAVING CITIZENS BRING THE GLASS TO THEM.
THEY'RE GOING BACK TO CURBSIDE FOR THE REST OF IT.
THE OTHER THING THAT SHE, SHE GOT US IN TOUCH WITH SOMEBODY WHO DOES THE ROLE ROLLBACKS.
AND SO WE GOT A PRICE ON THAT. AND SHE ALSO TOLD US THAT REPUBLIC OFFERS GRANTS.
THEY OFFER TWO DIFFERENT KINDS OF GRANTS, WHICH MAY BE USEFUL TO US NOT ONLY FOR ESTABLISHING A CENTER LIKE THIS, BUT FOR OTHER THINGS THAT WE HAVE GOING ON. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? I SKIPPED OVER SOME STUFF SHE TOLD US, BUT THAT WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT STUFF.
OKAY, THEN I HAD A CALL WITH SIBELCO. SIBELCO IS THE COMPANY THAT COLLECTS THE GLASS FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE WHO ARE FROM MUNICIPALITIES, AND THEN THEY TURN IT INTO CULLET AND THEY SELL IT TO THE PEOPLE WHO NEED IT.
SO I TALKED WITH BOTH OF THEM A LONG TIME AND GOT SO MUCH INFORMATION THAT IT WAS AMAZING.
BUT IT'S CLEAR THEY WANT OUR GLASS BECAUSE THERE'S A SHORTAGE OF GLASS TO BE RECYCLED.
THEY NEED IT. THEY WANT IT. THERE ARE NO LONGER BOTTLING PLACES IN FLORIDA, BUT THERE ARE IN GEORGIA, JUST NORTH OF US. SO THEY HAVE NO ISSUE WITH WITH BEING ABLE TO HANDLE THE GLASS AT ALL THE HE DID SOME QUICK NUMBERS BASED ON OUR POPULATION, WHICH IS APPROACHING ABOUT 150,000 COMPARED TO COCONUT CREEK, WHICH HAS A SIMILAR KIND OF POPULATION AND IS ABOUT A THIRD OUR SIZE.
WHERE COCONUT CREEK WAS ABLE TO DELIVER 25 TONS OF GLASS TO THEM LAST YEAR.
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IF WE CAN DELIVER A COMPARABLE AMOUNT FOR OUR POPULATION, THEY BELIEVE THAT WE WILL REDUCE WHAT GOES INTO THE LANDFILL BY 20 TO 30%. AND THAT'S IMPORTANT. IT'S IMPORTANT NOT ONLY FOR US, BUT FOR THE COUNTY AND FOR THE STATE, BECAUSE IF WE CAN REDUCE THAT, THAT WILL HELP PAY FOR SOME OF THE COST OF THIS.THE ROLL OFFS THAT ARE AVAILABLE DO HAVE LIDS.
WHAT IT THE, THE ONE VENDOR THAT I TALKED WITH HAS A 20 YARD ROLL OFF AND IT HAS AN, A FRAME LID AND ON EACH SIDE OF THE LID ARE THREE DOORS. SOMEONE HAD MENTIONED SEPARATING THE GLASS BY COLOR, SIBELCO SAYS.
WE DON'T NEED TO DO THAT BECAUSE THEY HAVE AN OPTICAL THING THAT WHEN THEY BRING THE GLASS IN, IT AUTOMATICALLY DOES THAT. SO WE DON'T NEED TO DIVIDE THE ROLL OFFS INTO THREE PARTS.
JUST PUT ALL THE GLASS IN THERE TOGETHER. THE ROLL OFFS ARE NOT CHEAP. HOWEVER, I LEARNED THAT THE ROLL OFF THAT COCONUT CREEK IS USING, THEY DON'T OWN SIBELCO OWNS IT. SO I THINK THERE'S SOME ROOM THERE FOR SOME NEGOTIATION.
AND THE ROLL OFFS ARE RELATIVELY EASY TO MOVE.
SO IF WE PUT IT IN A PLACE AND IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T GET THE KIND OF ATTENTION FROM CITIZENS, WE CAN MOVE IT TO ANOTHER LOCATION. THEY HAVE LOTS OF IDEAS ABOUT HOW TO COVER THE COSTS.
HOW TO REDUCE THE COSTS. AND PART OF IT HAS TO DO WITH WHERE YOU PUT THINGS, BECAUSE THEY WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU PUT THEM IN A SHOPPING CENTER. THEY MENTIONED ACE HARDWARE.
THEY WERE LOOKING AT OUR MAP OF WHO'S WHERE. AND AND ONCE YOU MAKE THAT DETERMINATION, SOMETIMES THOSE BUSINESSES WILL ACTUALLY SPONSOR THE ROLL OFF THAT'S THERE AND THAT CAN HELP REDUCE THE COSTS SIGNIFICANTLY.
YEAH, THE ALL RIGHT. I MENTIONED THAT ALREADY.
AND I MENTIONED THAT THE OTHER THING YOU CAN DO TO REDUCE THE COST IS TO CRUSH THE GLASS, NOT CRUSH IT SO THAT IT'S FINE, BUT JUST THREE TO 3 TO 8 PIECES PER BOTTLE BECAUSE THE BOTTLES TAKE UP A LOT OF AIR SPACE.
SO IF YOU CAN REDUCE THAT AIRSPACE, YOU END UP WITH MORE WEIGHT IN THE ROLL OFF, WHICH MEANS YOU HAVE FEWER TRIPS THAT YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR GOING TO SIBELCO. AND THOSE TRIPS ARE ABOUT $800 EACH FOR DELIVERING A LOAD OF GLASS.
SO YOU WANT TO GET AS MUCH WEIGHT INTO THE GLASS AS YOU CAN.
SOME PLACES ARE USING BUNKERS. THEY BUILD BUNKERS WITH CONCRETE BLOCKS THAT ARE HUGE.
THEY'RE THREE FEET BY TWO FEET, THREE FEET, SEVEN FEET BY TWO FEET.
AND SO YOU BUILD THIS BUNKER WITH THREE SIDES AND YOU PUSH THE GLASS INTO IT USING A TRACTOR OR, OR SOME OTHER VEHICLE. AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY CRUSH IT AT THE SAME TIME.
AND THEN THERE WOULD BE SOMEBODY ELSE, YOU WOULD GET TO COME OR SIBELCO WOULD GET TO COME AND SCOOP IT ALL OUT, PUT IT IN ONE OF THOSE DUMP TRUCKS THAT HAS AN ATTACHMENT TO IT.
AND THAT WOULD BE AN EVEN HEAVIER LOAD. SO REDUCING THE NUMBER OF LOADS THAT YOU HAVE TO PAY TO GET THERE IS, IS IMPORTANT. COCONUT CREEK IS PROJECT MANAGER IS A MEMBER OF THE SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT, PUBLIC WORKS.
SO HE IS EMPLOYED BY COCONUT CREEK. AND THIS IS, THIS IS PART OF WHAT HE DOES.
THE THERE'S RECYCLING CENTER IS OPEN FRIDAY THROUGH SUNDAY EACH WEEK.
AND THEY HAVE ONE THAT THEY USE. I THINK THAT THEY ARE A MUCH SMALLER GEOGRAPHIC AREA, BUT THEY'RE VERY SIMILAR IN THAT IT APPEARS THAT THEY ARE MORE RESIDENTIAL THAN ANYTHING ELSE. THE THEY HAVE PEOPLE COME TO A, THEY DON'T DEPOSIT IT STRAIGHT INTO THE ROLLAWAY. THEY DEPOSIT IT INTO A 95 GALLON BIN THAT HAS A HOLE IN THE TOP OF IT.
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AND THEN THOSE BINS ARE EMPTIED INTO THE ROLE ROLLBACK.AND THEY, THEY TAKE CARE OF DOING THAT. BUT HAVING THEIR CITIZENS PUT BOTTLES INTO A CONTAINER, ONE AT A TIME, THEY GATHERED 25 TONS OF GLASS LAST YEAR.
SO IT DOES WORK. IT'S AMAZING PEOPLE ARE WANTING TO DO THIS.
LET'S SEE, WE TALKED ABOUT CRUSHING. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT.
THE ONE, THE ONE ROLLBACK THAT I GOT A QUOTE ON WAS $10,650.
I KNOW THAT I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO TAKE A WHOLE LOT OF TIME.
SO DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I DO. OKAY. FIRST OF ALL, I LOVE ALL THE WORK YOU DID, AND I THINK IT'S GREAT. ONLY UP TO BREAKING IT DOWN TO EIGHT PIECES.
YEAH. THEY DON'T WANT BECAUSE THEIR MACHINES HAVE TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE IT ONCE IT GETS TO THEM.
SO YOU DON'T WANT IT. FINE. YOU JUST WANT IT BROKEN TO, TO, TO REDUCE THE AIR, THE POCKETS OF AIR IN THE, IN THE BIN ITSELF SO THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO HAVE MORE WEIGHT DELIVERED.
IF THERE'S, IF THERE'S PAPER LABELS, DO THEY WANT THOSE REMOVED? NO, NO, THEY DO NOT. AND THEY DON'T WANT THE GLASS SEPARATED.
THEY DON'T WANT IT WASHED. NOTHING I REMEMBER THE GOOD OLD DAYS WHEN MILK DELIVERY CAME IN GLASS BOTTLES AND THE MILKMAN CAME AND PICKED IT UP. I LIVED ON A FIFTH FLOOR WALK UP.
I FELT BAD FOR THE GUY, BUT. IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO ME.
ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK WE COULD POSSIBLY DO IS IF WE CAN GET THE COUNTY TO DO A SURCHARGE, MAYBE $0.02 OR SOMETHING PER BOTTLE, I THINK THAT MIGHT HELP OFFSET.
AND IT'S NOT A HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY. I PERSONALLY AM USING GLASS INSTEAD OF PLASTIC ON, ON ALL OF MY BEVERAGES RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I GOT THIS THING ABOUT PLASTIC. IT'S KILLING ME.
THIS IS A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION, LYDIA. THANK YOU.
AND THAT REMINDS ME THAT SIBELCO IS SO INTERESTED IN HAVING US DELIVER OUR GLASS TO THEM, THAT THEY ARE COMING UP WITH A LIST OF OPTIONS FOR US TO CONSIDER ABOUT HOW TO REDUCE THE COST, HOW TO PAY FOR THIS.
SO YOU KNOW, HOW TO GET SPONSORS AND THAT KIND OF THING.
I HAVE ONE QUESTION ON THAT. IF THEY WANT IT SO BAD, WHY DON'T THEY COME AND GET IT.
WELL, IT COST THEM TOO. SO I GUESS I UNDERSTAND PART OF THAT.
YEAH. GIVE AND TAKE. YEAH. AND IT IS NOT CHEAP TO DELIVER A LOAD.
IT'S $800 FROM HERE TO SARASOTA. YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I JUST WANTED TO SECOND HER COMMENT COMMENDING YOUR EFFORTS.
I WAS ONLY PARTICIPATING IN ONE OF THE MEETINGS THAT YOU WERE IN OVER THE LAST TWO WEEKS.
SO I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK AND YOUR EFFORT AND DEDICATION TO THIS.
ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO PUT ON RECORD THAT ACTUALLY I HEARD DURING OUR MEETING WITH THE REPUBLICAN REPRESENTATIVE WAS THAT A LOT OF WHAT WE PAY FOR AS A CITY IS TONNAGE THAT WE TAKE DOWN TO THE DUMP THAT WE USE.
SO WHEN WE ARE REMOVING THIS TONNAGE AND SENDING IT OFF TO SABLE CO AND EVERYTHING, WE'RE ACTUALLY ALSO REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT IT COSTS THE CITY TO HAUL OUR REGULAR TRASH. SO NOT ONLY ARE WE FINDING THE BENEFIT ON THE SIDE WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO REDUCE THE COST TO THE CITY OVERALL.
WE MAY ACTUALLY END UP CREATING A SITUATION IF WE'RE ABLE TO GET CLEVER WITH THAT TO WHERE WE'RE SAVING THE CITY MONEY BY ALSO CUTTING OUT THE TONNAGE THAT IS BEING TAKEN TO THE LANDFILL. SO THAT IS A GREAT THING THAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WAS ON THE RECORD AS WE CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS THAT IT'S NOT JUST GLASS RECYCLING, IT'S ALSO A BENEFIT TO THE OVERALL CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE WITH REPUBLIC.
WHAT'S THE NEAREST PLACE WE CAN DROP IT OFF TO? BECAUSE I'VE BEEN SAVING IT IN CRATES. THAT'S UP TO US TO FIGURE OUT.
THERE ARE LOTS AND LOTS OF SHOPPING CENTERS ALL OVER.
HAMMOCK LANDING, ACE HARDWARE, BAYSIDE LAKES.
THE ONE RIGHT HERE, I FORGET WHAT IT'S CALLED.
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SO THERE ARE SHOPPING CENTERS AND WHAT THEY RECOMMENDED IS THAT YOU PUT THESE THINGS WHERE PEOPLE NORMALLY GO.BUT I THINK THEY HAVE A CITY CENTER, WHICH IS NOT WHAT WE REALLY HAVE.
SO I THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO IDENTIFY SHOPPING CENTERS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO PUT THIS KIND OF THING AND WHERE THEY HAVE DONE THINGS, THEY PUT CAMERAS SO THAT IF PEOPLE ARE ABUSING AND PUTTING THINGS THAT DON'T BELONG IN THE GLASS RECYCLING BIN WILL BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY WHO THEY ARE. AND WE MAY OR MAY NOT WANT TO CONSIDER DOING THAT, BUT WHEN YOU HAVE A BIN THAT HAS SLIDING DOORS THAT YOU HAVE TO REACH TO PUT STUFF INTO, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A TV, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A MATTRESS, YOU'RE JUST NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT KIND OF STUFF.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SIBELCO TOLD TOLD ME, IS THAT THEY'RE JUST NOT SEEING THAT KIND OF CONTAMINATION, WHICH IS REALLY GOOD. ANYTHING ELSE? JUST JUST THE WHAT'S THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR? ECHO THE THOUGHTS HERE.
THE THE BOARD MEMBERS. YOU DID A TREMENDOUS JOB.
I HEARD BUSINESS PLANS THAT WEREN'T AS DETAILED.
SO THANK YOU. AND THEN JUST AS A SUSTAINABILITY BOARD WOULD IT BE OUR.
PLACE TO LIKE FORM A RECOMMENDATION THAT THIS SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED FURTHER AND MAYBE PRESENT THIS RESEARCH? WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT? YEAH. I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE SHOULD RECOMMEND THAT GLASS RECYCLING BE LOOKED INTO AND PRESENT ALL OF SOME OF THE GREAT RESEARCH THAT WE HAVE HERE TO TO THE COUNCIL. I HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE TO RECOMMEND THE GLASS RECYCLING PROGRAM AND THE INFORMATION PRESENTED TO THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY COUNCIL. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. OKAY. I HAVE A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES FOUR ZERO.
THANK YOU. CAN WE CALL IT THE LYDIA PROJECT? MR. CHAIRPERSON? YES, SIR. WITH MARVIN CURRENTLY ON HIS WAY, BUT NOT CURRENTLY HERE.
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I WOULD POSSIBLY SUGGEST MOVING ITEM TO ITEM NUMBER TWO, STARTING WITH ITEM NUMBER TWO AND MOVING THE FIRST ITEM TO BE THE SECOND ITEM.OKAY. THANK YOU. I DID NOT KNOW WHO HAD SUGGESTED THAT AGENDA ITEM ORIGINALLY.
YEAH. MOST OF THESE ARE MARVIN SUGGESTIONS. OKAY.
EXCELLENT. I WOULD NEED A MOTION TO DO THAT THOUGH.
YES YES YES, I SO MOVE. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER ONE.
FURTHER DOWN THE AGENDA. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.
I HAVE A SECOND. ANY OR ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE AYE AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES FOUR ZERO. SO WE WILL MOVE NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER ONE TO THE END OF NEW BUSINESS AND MAKE IT NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER FIVE. WITH THAT WE WILL MOVE REMEMBRANCE GARDEN UP TO NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER ONE.
IT WAS NEXT ON THE AGENDA. SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I CAN SPEAK ON.
AND AS I PROVIDED AN UPDATE LAST MONTH WE HAD A SITUATION WHERE THE FLORIDA WILDFLOWER FOUNDATION DECIDED THEY WANTED TO PASS ALONG SOME INFORMATION. THEY SAID THAT THE GARDEN WAS A LITTLE BIT TOO BIG FOR WHAT THEY HAD ENVISIONED THE GRANT TO BE USED FOR.
AS SUCH, WE KIND OF SPOKE IT OUT. AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
I BELIEVE SHE IS WATCHING TONIGHT TO OUR FORMER BOARD MEMBER, JANE HIGGINS.
BECAUSE I JUST DON'T HAVE THE BANDWIDTH TO, TO DO ALL THOSE THINGS.
SO THANK YOU, JANE, FOR ALL YOUR ASSISTANCE. BUT SHE, THEY HAD SUGGESTED AND I TALKED BACK AND FORTH WITH HER ABOUT POTENTIALLY PRESENTING A PHASED DEVELOPMENT OF THE NATIVE PLANT GARDEN TO WHERE WE HAD THIS REALLY LONG, REALLY BIG PROJECT.
AND TO, IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT AND BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH, MAYBE BREAKING IT DOWN INTO PIECES, SMALLER BITE SIZED PIECES WOULD ALLOW US TO DO THAT.
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SO AS SUCH, I HAVE PRESENTED ACTUALLY, DEREK, IF YOU COULD PULL IT UP.YEAH. WE HAVE A LITTLE FLY OUT OF WHAT THE NATIVE PLANT GARDEN LOOKS LIKE.
SO THE PROJECT AS A WHOLE IS THE ENTIRE SPACE OVER THERE FROM ONE SIDE TO THE OTHER.
AND THAT'S WHERE WE WERE LOOKING AT BEING APPROXIMATELY 4500 DOLLARS SHORT OF BEING ABLE TO DO THIS.
SO WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE PHASED VERSION OF IT.
WE KIND OF BROKE OUT THE SMALLER AREA BECAUSE THE FLOOR WILDFLOWER FOUNDATION TYPICALLY WORKS IN 100 SQUARE FOOT GARDENS, AND OUR PROJECT IS SIGNIFICANTLY LARGER THAN 100FT².
SO WE WERE TRYING TO LOOK FOR SOMETHING THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BRING THAT DOWN ON SIZE.
AND THIS WOULD INCLUDE THE WATER FEATURE THAT WAS GOING TO BE DONATED FROM FLORIDA CUSTOM AQUATICS.
SPEAKING WITH FLORIDA CUSTOM AQUATICS, THEY SAID THAT THE VALUE OF THE LABOR AND MATERIAL AND INSTALL WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY $7,500 THAT THEY WOULD BE DONATING IN FULL TO THE PROJECT. THEY WOULD ALSO BE BRINGING IN SOME OF THE AQUATIC PLANTS THAT WOULD GO AROUND THAT.
AND THAT IS WHAT I HAVE A COPY OF THE QUOTE FROM NATIVE BUTTERFLY FLOWERS THAT I'VE PRESENTED TO THE THE BOARD AND YOU CAN SEE THE PLANT LIST ON THERE. WE'RE LOOKING AT 12 DIFFERENT SPECIES, 65 DIFFERENT PLANTS.
THE TOTAL TO THAT COMES OUT TO $997.50. AND THAT IS ACTUALLY WHAT THE FLORIDA WILDFLOWER FOUNDATION SAID THAT THEY WOULD PROVIDE TO US IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT. SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THEIR GRANT THEY SAID $998.
THAT'S TO PURCHASE THE PLANTS THEMSELVES. IF YOU LOOK ON THE BACK SIDE OF THE QUOTE, YOU'LL SEE THE OUTSTANDING RESULTS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT FROM NATIVE BUTTERFLY FLOWERS. THAT INCLUDES DELIVERY, THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF MULCH THAT ARE GOING TO BE USED FOR THE BEDS AND WITHIN THE THE WALKING PATH ON THERE.
SO THAT BUDGET PUTS US AT AROUND $750 AROUND THERE.
AND WE DO HAVE THAT CURRENTLY AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW.
SO ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS WHEN I PRESENTED TO CITY COUNCIL WAS COME BACK TO US.
WHEN YOU HAVE THE MONEY, WE HAVE THE MONEY. IF WE LOOK AT THIS INTO A PHASED PLAN AND START OFF WITH WHAT THIS IS, WE COULD THEORETICALLY, IF WE APPROVE BRINGING IT TOWARDS THE CITY COUNCIL TONIGHT AND GOING WITH THIS PHASE PLAN, WE COULD PRESENT THAT TO CITY COUNCIL, NOT AT THE MEETING NEXT WEEK, BUT THE SECOND MEETING IN JULY.
I BELIEVE I WOULD BE ABLE TO GET ON THE AGENDA FOR THAT PRESENTED TO CITY COUNCIL.
AND IF THEY APPROVE IT, WE COULD EVEN START THE SOLARIZATION PROCESS IN LATE JULY, EARLY AUGUST, IF AT ALL POSSIBLE. YES. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT FOR THE, THE PHASE PLAN. AGAIN, THIS IS DIFFERENT FROM WHAT OUR OVERALL SCOPE WAS.
THAT COULD BE FROM PHASE ONE TO PHASE TWO COULD BEGIN WHERE THAT RED CURVE IS.
AS A PHASE THREE OR EVEN PHASE FOUR, WE CAN BREAK IT OUT INTO DIFFERENT SIZES.
SO AS THE FUNDING GOES FUNDING IS OUR BIGGEST HURDLE.
I BELIEVE THAT IF WE LOOK AT THIS AS A PHASED GARDEN AS OPPOSED TO JUST A ONE TIME BIG PROJECT, I THINK WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO BITE THIS OFF IN SMALLER LITTLE CHUNKS AND GET GOING ON THE HITTING THE GROUND.
THE ONE THING AND THE REASON WHY I'M SO ADAMANT ON TRYING TO PRESENT THIS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE TO COUNCIL AND GETTING SOLARIZATION DOWN IS IF WE CAN GET THAT WATER FEATURE INSTALLED, IF WE CAN GET THIS GARDEN GOING WE COULD DO A DEDICATION DURING NOVEMBER TO MARK THE ONE YEAR PASSING OF SUSAN CONNOLLY WHO WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN THIS.
SO WE DO NEED TO TRY TO MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT.
THAT WAY WE CAN PRESENT IT TO COUNCIL AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
AND THEN ONCE WE DO THAT, THEN WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO START RUNNING ON THAT.
SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE TONIGHT FROM THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD, IF WE ARE POSSIBLE OF DOING SO, IS TO WORK TOGETHER TO FIND A DATE THAT I CAN PRESENT TO COUNCIL AND SAY, THIS IS THE DAY WHERE WE WILL LAY DOWN SOLARIZATION AND GATHER THE VOLUNTEERS TO DO ALL THAT. AND THAT WAY I CAN COME TO THEM WITH A DATE, WITH THE MONEY AND A PLAN, AND HOPEFULLY GET APPROVAL AND START WORKING RIGHT OFF THE BAT, BECAUSE WE DO NEED ABOUT THREE MONTHS TO HIT THE SOLARIZATION.
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THANK YOU, CHAIRPERSON BOARD CHRISTINE SULLIVAN, ASSISTANT PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.I JUST WANT TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT THIS PROJECT, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, HASN'T BEEN APPROVED BY OUR FACILITIES DEPARTMENT, AND THAT IS A CRUCIAL STEP IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD.
IN ADDITION TO OTHER ITEMS, WHICH I THINK YOU'RE AWARE OF, SUCH AS A MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT.
SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE BEFORE YOU GO TO COUNCIL THAT YOU HAVE THE APPROVAL OF OUR FACILITIES DEPARTMENT, BECAUSE BECAUSE WITHOUT THAT, YOU REALLY CAN'T START THE GARDEN.
AND ALSO A MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT TO ENSURE THAT THE CITY IS AWARE AND COUNCIL IS AWARE OF HOW THIS GARDEN IS GOING TO BE MAINTAINED IN THE FUTURE. AND WHAT HAPPENS IF FOR SOME REASON THE THE VOLUNTEERS ARE UNAVAILABLE OR, OR STOP MAINTAINING THE GARDEN.
SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR SO THAT WE DON'T GET AHEAD OF OURSELVES.
IF YOU NEED ME TO ASK THEM TO SEE A PRESENTATION FROM YOU HERE AT THE NEXT MEETING, I CAN MAKE THAT REQUEST AND ASK THEM TO BE HERE TO LISTEN TO YOUR PRESENTATION ON THE GARDEN.
SO WHAT I HAD ENVISIONED AS THE PATH GOING FORWARD IS SINCE WE HAD ORIGINALLY AS A BOARD PRESENTED THIS AS THE FULL FULL GARDEN IF WE AS THE BOARD DECIDE TO GO WITH A PHASED PLAN, THAT'S WHEN I WAS GOING TO MOVE FORWARD AND START WORKING WITH FACILITIES.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT FOR THE TIMELINE.
I FEAR THAT IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH COUNCIL APPROVAL BEFORE WE HAVE ANY INPUT FROM OUR FACILITIES DEPARTMENT, THE COUNCIL IS NOT GOING TO GET THE FULL PICTURE IF OUR FACILITIES DEPARTMENT HAS ANY CONCERNS OR ISSUES WITH PLACING THE GARDEN AT THAT LOCATION ON THIS PROPERTY. YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GIVE THAT INFORMATION TO COUNCIL BECAUSE YOU WON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION WITHOUT GOING TO OUR FACILITIES DEPARTMENT FIRST, WHICH IS WHY I'M RECOMMENDING THAT YOU REACH OUT TO OUR FACILITIES DEPARTMENT AND GET THEIR APPROVAL BEFORE MOVING FORWARD WITH COUNCIL APPROVAL. OKAY. WE CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT. IN YOUR EXPERIENCE AND YOUR OPINION, WOULD IT BE OKAY FOR THE BOARD TO VOTE ON THE FACE PLAN TODAY BEFORE WE PRESENT IT TO COUNCIL AND THEN WORK WITH FACILITIES AT THAT POINT? BECAUSE I THE CONCERN I HAVE IS IF WE DELAY THIS ANOTHER MONTH TO GET FACILITIES TO COME DO A PRESENTATION.
WOULD I BE, I GUESS WHAT I'M ASKING IS OVER THE NEXT, THE COURSE OF THE NEXT THREE WEEKS, WOULD I BE ABLE TO HAVE A SIT DOWN CONVERSATION WITH FACILITIES IN PERSON AND NOT HAVE TO DO IT ON THE BOARD LEVEL? SO IF THE BOARD SAYS SAY SAYS THEY WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH PHASE ONE, I CAN THEN GO MEET WITH FACILITIES, SHOW THEM THE GARDEN, GET THEIR APPROVAL IS AND BE ABLE TO BRING ALL THAT INFORMATION TO COUNCIL AT A LATER MEETING.
MY ONLY CONCERN AS FAR AS WHETHER OR NOT YOU CAN MEET WITH FACILITIES ON SITE, ANY OF YOUR MEETINGS NEED TO BE RECORDED FOR SUNSHINE. SO HAVING FACILITIES HERE TO LISTEN TO THE BOARD AS A WHOLE WOULD BE MORE ADVANTAGEOUS FOR THAT PURPOSE SO THAT EVERYTHING IS OUT IN THE OPEN. AS FAR AS GOING TO COUNCIL BEFORE YOU KNOW, YOU CAN PLACE A GARDEN ON THE FACILITY.
I FEAR THAT COUNCIL IS NOT GOING TO HAVE ALL OF THE INFORMATION.
I SUPPOSE IT WOULD DEPEND ON HOW YOU COUCHED IT OR HOW YOU PITCHED IT, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, TO COUNCIL. IF YOU WERE TO TELL COUNCIL THAT THERE ARE STILL MULTIPLE STEPS THAT WE NEED TO GO THROUGH BEFORE WE CAN BEGIN THE PROCESS. HOWEVER, WE WANTED TO GET YOUR APPROVAL OR YOUR AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THIS IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING IF YOU'RE TAKING, IF YOU'RE PUTTING IT ON THE AGENDA SO THAT THEY VOTE ON IT, OR IF YOU'RE JUST DOING IT AS, AS AN UPDATE IN A PUBLIC COMMENT. SO MY SUGGESTION IS THAT IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET THE APPROVAL FROM FACILITIES BEFORE YOU GO TO COUNCIL, THAT YOU MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE VERY TRANSPARENT TO COUNCIL, THAT YOU STILL DO NOT HAVE APPROVAL FROM FACILITIES AND THAT YOU DO NOT HAVE A MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT TO ENSURE THE CONTINUED MAINTENANCE OF THE GARDEN.
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I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I GUESS I'M HAVING A HARD TIME EXPRESSING IT.BEFORE I DO ANYTHING ELSE, BECAUSE IF THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD SAYS NO WHOLE GARDEN, THEN OBVIOUSLY THERE'S NO POINT GOING TO FACILITIES AT THIS POINT.
WHAT I HAVE BEEN DOING LARGELY HAS BEEN APPROACHING THESE MEETINGS INDIVIDUALLY.
SO THAT'S WHY SUNSHINE DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE INTO IT TO WHERE IF I WAS TO GO TO FACILITIES AND HAVE A ONE ON ONE MEETING WITH THE HEAD OF FACILITIES AND PRESENT THE PLAN MYSELF AND NOT NECESSARILY HAVE IT AS THE BOARD, BASICALLY THE BOARD BE THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE BOARD AND HAVE THAT MEETING.
WOULD THAT BE POSSIBLE? SO ARE YOU SUGGESTING AND AND NOT BEING A SUNSHINE EXPERT OR AN ATTORNEY, ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT THE BOARD VOTES TO ASK YOU TO BE THEIR REPRESENTATIVE TO FACILITIES TO PRESENT THIS SUGGESTION? I WOULD I WOULD HAVE TO CONFIRM IT WITH OUR ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, BUT I DON'T PERSONALLY I THINK THAT WOULD WORK. BUT AGAIN, I'M NOT I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY.
AND I'VE HAD MEETINGS PREVIOUSLY WITH CITY EMPLOYEES REGARDING THINGS LIKE THIS.
SO I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THAT I COULD CONTINUE ON THAT PATH OR IF IT WAS A SITUATION WHERE WE NEEDED TO HAVE FACILITIES COME IN FRONT OF THE CAN ADDRESS THAT QUESTION AND GET A RESPONSE TO YOU HOPEFULLY LATER THIS WEEK TO ALL OF YOU IN AN EMAIL SO THAT YOU KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS.
I'LL JUST VERIFY IT FOR YOU. OKAY, EXCELLENT.
AND YOU CAN CERTAINLY VOTE ON THE PHASING OF THE PROJECT AS A BOARD.
I JUST DON'T RECOMMEND YOU TAKE IT TO COUNCIL UNTIL YOU KNOW THAT YOU CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT, AND YOU WON'T KNOW THAT UNTIL YOU SPEAK TO FACILITIES.
AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS INTENDING TO DO BETWEEN TONIGHT AND THE SECOND REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING, IS TRY TO GET THOSE MEETINGS IN PLACE AND GET THOSE APPROVALS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, I HAVE QUESTIONS.
YES, SIR. GO AHEAD, MR. VICE CHAIRMAN. WITH THE WATER FEATURE, WHERE'S THE WATER COMING FROM? ARE WE GOING TO USE RECYCLED WATER, RAINWATER.
DO WE HAVE VOLUNTEERS THAT WILL MAINTAIN IT. I THINK THOSE, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN SHOW THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE INTERESTED IN, IN DOING THIS AND IT NOT BE A COST TO THE CITY, I THINK THAT'S YOUR BEST ROAD TO SUCCESS.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME SORT OF A RAINWATER COLLECTION TO MAINTAIN IT.
THERE'S I SAW A COLLAPSIBLE RAINWATER COLLECTION THING THAT HOLDS LIKE 100 GALLONS THAT CAN BE COLLAPSED BACK AND STORED AND PUT OUT WHEN IT'S GOING TO RAIN AND YOU'RE GOING TO WATER IT.
BUT I THINK IT HOPEFULLY IT'LL PROBABLY RAIN ENOUGH.
YOU WON'T NEED TO DO THAT USUALLY INITIALLY WITH ANY PLANTING THE FIRST FEW WEEKS, A FEW DAYS TO A COUPLE OF WEEKS, YOU DO HAVE TO TEND TO IT. KIND OF LIKE A BABY.
YES. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT WE'RE USING RECYCLED WATER AND NOT PULLING IT FROM THE CITY RESERVES. YES, THAT IS THE INTENTION FOR THE STORMWATER OR FOR NOT THE STORMWATER.
SO IT'S GOING TO HAVE A PUMP WITH ELECTRICITY.
YES. OKAY. WHO'S PAYING FOR THAT? I HAVE HAD PRELIMINARY MEETINGS WITH FACILITIES, AND I THINK I THINK IT WAS BUILDING THAT I HAD THE PRELIMINARY MEETINGS WITH. AND THEY SAID THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO OBVIOUSLY LOCATE A SOURCE FOR IT AND AGAIN GET APPROVAL.
BUT THEY SAID THAT THE ONGOING COST OF THE OCCASIONALLY THE POND WILL NEED TO BE REFILLED.
JUST SOMETIMES IT DOESN'T RAIN. SO, BUT THE ONGOING COST OF THE ELECTRICITY AND THE POTENTIAL WATER TO REFILL WHATEVER THE STORM WATER DOES NOT CATCH WAS NOT GOING TO BE, THEY DID NOT EXPECT THAT TO BE A COST THAT AN ONGOING COST THAT THE WOULD BE PROHIBITIVE FOR US.
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AGAIN, PRELIMINARY MEETINGS, BUT THAT WAS PART OF THE DESIGN AND SOMETHING I HAVE DISCUSSED.IS THAT BASICALLY GOING TO BE LINED OR IS IT GOING TO BE PUT IN DIRT? IT'S GOING TO BE LINED. OKAY. YEAH. THESE ARE PROFESSIONALS THAT ARE DOING IT.
THIS IS. YEAH. I'M NOT QUESTIONING. I KNOW YOU KNOW, BUT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT THEY DO AND THIS IS WHY THEY WANTED TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROJECT IS BECAUSE THEY KNEW SUSAN CONNOLLY AND HOW IMPORTANT SHE WAS TO THE COMMUNITY AND WHATNOT.
THESE GUYS ARE PROFESSIONALS. THEY HAVE EXAMPLES THAT ARE THROUGHOUT PALM BAY AND BREVARD COUNTY.
THEY'RE PHENOMENAL. AND I'VE WORKED WITH THEM OR NOT WORKED WITH THEM, BUT I'VE SPOKEN TO THEM NUMEROUS TIMES ON THERE AND THEY ACTUALLY SHOWED ME AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THAT POND IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE. SO I DO THINK THAT IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY WELL DONE.
PORN LINED OR PORN LINED. SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE BATTLING.
I KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THAT IS OUR SAND DOES NOT HOLD WATER VERY WELL.
SO THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE THE BIGGEST CONCERN ON THERE.
IT'S MOSTLY EVAPORATION. ALSO THE WATER, IS IT GOING TO CIRCULATE SOMEHOW? YES. THAT'S WHAT THE PUMP. SO THE RESERVOIRS CATCH THE RAINWATER CONSTANTLY OR.
YES. OKAY. SO THE RESERVOIRS CATCH THE RAINWATER.
IT'S CALLED A WATERLESS POND OR A POND WITH A WATERFALL.
SO THE RESERVOIRS HOLD THE WATER UNDERGROUND.
EXACTLY. I LOVE WATERFALL, YES. OKAY. AND AS FOR THE THE MAINTENANCE ASPECT OF IT, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED NUMEROUS TIMES. AGAIN, I DIDN'T WANT TO PUT THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE, BEFORE THE CART, BEFORE THE HORSE.
UNTIL THE BOARD HAD A OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE PHASED GARDEN PLAN AND MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.
BUT WE HAVE CONTACTS WITH CONRADINA CHAPTER OF THE FLORIDA NATIVE PLANT SOCIETY.
WE HAVE OUR CONTACTS WITH LOCAL GARDEN CLUBS.
AND THEY HAVE GOTTEN APPROVAL FOR THIS TO BE A MASTER GARDENERS PROJECT AS WELL.
MASTER GARDENERS FOR MAINTENANCE OPPORTUNITIES WITH THEM.
THAT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR VOLUNTEERS.
CAN WE NAIL DOWN A SCHEDULE AND GET PEOPLE TO SIGN UP OR FIND OUT IF THERE ARE ANY YOUNG PEOPLE'S CAMPS WHERE THEY'RE TRYING TO TEACH THEM ABOUT PLANTS. AND SO FOR US TO DO THAT, WE WOULD NEED TO IDENTIFY DATES.
WE CAN'T NEBULOUSLY ASK PEOPLE TO SIGN UP FOR STUFF.
WELL, THEY CAN SAY THEY'LL DO IT AND TELL US WHEN THEY'RE AVAILABLE.
YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN SAY ONCE, ONCE WE'RE SET, YOU KNOW SAY IF IT'S A MONTH, TWO MONTHS OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, WILL YOU BE AVAILABLE AND AT LEAST HAVE A BACKUP? YOU NEED AT LEAST 2 OR 3 PEOPLE I WOULD THINK.
YEAH. AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS HOPING TO ACCOMPLISH TONIGHT IS HAVE.
BECAUSE FIRST STEP, ONCE WE GET ALL THE APPROVALS AND PRINTS INTO THE COUNCIL AND EVERYTHING, THE FIRST PHYSICAL STEP FOR US TO ACCOMPLISH IS GOING TO BE THE SOLARIZE.
SO WITHOUT A DATE SET IN STONE OR A TENTATIVE DATE, PENDING APPROVALS AND EVERYTHING, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A TARGET TO WHERE I CAN SAY, GO TO THE MASTER GARDENERS AND SAY, HEY, AUGUST, WHATEVER FIRST IS GOING TO BE THE DATE WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE.
TO ME, THE FIRST STEP WOULD BE FIND OUT WHO'S INTERESTED IN DOING IT.
WELL, WE HAVE THAT AND GET THEM TO MAKE THAT COMMITMENT AND SAY, WHEN WE'RE READY, WILL YOU BE READY? YOU KNOW, AND IF YOU HAVE 2 OR 3, AND HOPEFULLY AT LEAST ONE OF THEM WILL SHOW UP AND YOU GET IT DONE.
BUT I THINK IT'LL BE AN EASIER SELL TO THE COUNCIL IF.
IF THE BURDEN ISN'T PUT ON THE CITY. YES, I DON'T.
AT NO POINT DO I EXPECT THE BURDEN TO BE PUT ON THE CITY.
YEAH, BUT STUFF HAPPENS. YES. AND JUST HAVING THAT AS PART OF THE PLAN AND SHOWING THAT WE HAVE THE FORESIGHT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE COVERING THOSE BASES. YES. I LISTENING TO YOUR CONVERSATION, I JUST WANT TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF A COUPLE OF THINGS.
TYPICALLY WHEN A PLAN IS PRESENTED TO FACILITIES, IT WILL HAVE MEASUREMENTS ON IT OR SPECS OF LIKE YOU'RE DISCUSSING AN UNDERGROUND CHAMBER AND THE WATERFALL THINGS LIKE THAT. AND ELECTRICITY LIKE BECAUSE IT REQUIRES ELECTRICITY, YOU MAY NEED SOME TYPE OF PERMIT ALSO TO RUN ELECTRICITY FROM THE BUILDING TO THE POND. SO WHEN MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE WHEN YOU, YOU MAY HAVE TO UPDATE THIS PLAN A LITTLE BIT WITH MEASUREMENTS OF HOW WIDE THE PATHS ARE TO MEET ADA REQUIREMENTS.
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YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME UP WITH SOME QUESTIONS, LIKE IF PERMITS ARE REQUIRED FOR ANY OF THIS STUFF.IT OBVIOUSLY, IF YOU HAVE TO RE FILL IT, IT DOES A WATER SPIGOT NEED TO BE INSTALLED AND IS THERE A PERMIT FOR PLUMBING? LIKE I, I DON'T WORK FOR BUILDING. I DON'T REALLY KNOW THOSE THINGS, BUT THESE ARE THINGS THAT THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO ASK YOU.
I KNOW CITY STAFF IS REGULARLY LOOKING AT SPEC PLANS THAT ARE VERY DETAILED, LIKE HOW MANY PLANTS OF WHAT TYPE, YOU KNOW, HOW MEASUREMENTS OF ALL YOUR PATHS, WHAT TYPE OF MATERIALS GOING ON THERE, ALL THE SPECS FOR YOUR, YOUR POND, ETC., BECAUSE THESE ARE THINGS THAT THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO ASK YOU.
MY HOPE IS THAT WE'LL FIND A NATURAL WAY OF PRODUCING THE ENERGY.
THERE ARE SOME SOLAR UNITS THAT CAN GO IN WATER THAT WILL CIRCULATE IT OR DO WHATEVER.
I HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH SOLAR PUMPS. AND THE PROBLEM IS AERATION.
WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE AERATION, THE BENEFICIAL BACTERIA THAT REDUCES THE ALGAE BUILDUP DIE.
SO IF YOU DON'T HAVE A 24 HOUR PUMP, THEN YOU ARE PRETTY MUCH OUT OF LUCK.
WELL, AGAIN, THERE ARE. I'VE BEEN RESEARCHING A LOT ON WHAT IF THERE'S NO ELECTRICITY FROM FPL? HOW DO YOU SURVIVE? YOU KNOW, THERE ARE WAYS TO DO IT.
WE MIGHT EVEN BE ABLE TO DO IT WITH BATTERIES.
AND I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE TONY CAN HELP ME LOOK INTO THAT.
YEAH. BUT I'VE BEEN READING. THERE ARE A LOT OF OPTIONS IN PRODUCING ELECTRICITY FOR WHATEVER.
AND THEY'RE NOT HUGE. THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO, PEOPLE FOUND WAYS TO MAKE THINGS MOVE, YOU KNOW? OKAY, DOUG? YES. IN REGARDS TO THE APPROVAL FROM FACILITIES AND SPEAKING TO FACILITIES WITHOUT HAVING TO WAIT ALL THAT TIME TO BRING THEM HERE FOR THAT APPROVAL. I'VE JUST BEEN MADE AWARE THAT THE BOARD, JUST LIKE HOW YOU DIVVIED UP THE ASSIGNMENTS FOR THE, THE GARDEN AND WHATNOT, THE BOARD CAN CHOOSE SOMEBODY TO BASICALLY ASSIGN THEM THAT TASK OF GOING AND SPEAKING WITH FACILITIES TO GET THAT APPROVAL.
AND THEN YOU CAN NOTIFY US OF THE RESPONSE JUST LIKE YOU DO NOW.
AND THEN WE CAN FORWARD THAT INFORMATION TO THE REST OF THE BOARD AS, AS WE DO.
SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO DO THAT, YOU CAN MAKE THE MOTION TO WHETHER YOU YOURSELF OR, YOU KNOW, SHOULD WE, THE BOARD ELECT SOMEBODY TO PURSUE THIS HOWEVER YOU WANT TO DO IT, JUST MAKE A MOTION.
AND THEN WHOEVER THE BOARD DECIDES TO DO THAT, THEY CAN GO TALK TO FACILITIES AND JUST SEND US THE INFORMATION THAT YOU FIND OUT AND WOULD LIKE US TO RELAY BACK TO THE BOARD. EXCELLENT.
THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE OUR CHAIR, DOUG, REPRESENT THE SABLAN AT FACILITIES FOR THE PURPOSE OF DISCUSSING THE GARDEN, THE NATIVE PLANT GARDEN, THE REMEMBRANCE GARDEN.
OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE TO APPOINT AN INDIVIDUAL TO WORK WITH FACILITIES.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO. I BELIEVE AT THIS POINT WE WILL I GUESS, TABLE THE REST OF THE DISCUSSION. UNTIL WE ARE ABLE TO GET MORE DETAILED PLANS AND PRESENT THEM TO FACILITIES.
SO I DON'T THINK WE, WELL WE WOULDN'T NEED NECESSARILY IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO BRING THIS BACK UP AT A FUTURE MEETING IMMEDIATELY, WOULDN'T NECESSARILY NEED A MOTION AT THIS POINT, DO WE? MR. CHAIR, IF WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS AT A LATER MEETING, WE'LL PROBABLY NEED TO DO A MOTION TO TABLE IT, AND THEN WE'D HAVE TO THEN DO ANOTHER MOTION TO PUT IT BACK ON THE AGENDA OR SUBMIT IT TO CITY STAFF, I BELIEVE.
YES. OKAY. SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION AT THIS TIME, MR. CHAIR? FIRST, I WANT TO SAY TO THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD, I WANT TO APOLOGIZE FOR MY TARDINESS.
I MOVED TO TABLE THE DISCUSSION OF THE GARBAGE, THE MEMBERS GARDEN AT THIS TIME, AND TO PERMIT THE PERSON APPOINTED TO DISCUSS, TO PERMIT THE PERSON APPOINTED TO DISCUSS WITH THE REQUISITE FACILITIES DEPARTMENT ABOUT THE REMEMBRANCE GARDEN AND AT THAT TIME WILL DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT WE WILL REOPEN THE DISCUSSION WITH REGARDS TO THE MEMBERS GARDEN. OKAY.
THANK YOU. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO, MR. CHAIR. YES, SIR. I MOVE TO REOPEN THE DISCUSSION WITH REGARDS TO THE GLASS RECYCLING FOR JUST ONE MOMENT.
OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION TO REOPEN THE GLASS RECYCLING DISCUSSION.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. ALL THOSE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
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AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO. SO WE WILL REOPEN THE GLASS.DISCUSSION. AT THIS TIME, SINCE MR. TUDOR WAS ABLE TO OR UNABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN IT EARLIER.
SO GOING BACK TO THE THREAD WE DISCUSSED EARLIER ABOUT REMEMBRANCE GARDEN, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE'RE APPROACHING CITY COUNCIL, THAT WE HAVE ALL OF OUR DUCKS IN A ROW AND WE'VE DONE OUR DUE DILIGENCE, AS IS DESCRIBED UNDER THE SECTION OF THE BYLAWS THAT WE'RE GOING TO ADVISE AND ASSIST THE CITY COUNCIL. WE DON'T WANT TO GIVE THEM MORE WORK. WE WANT TO COME WITH A COMPLETE PLAN OF THE ACCURATE DATA THAT WE'VE VETTED AND UTILIZING BOTH HISTORIC DATA THAT WE'VE OBTAINED FROM PERHAPS CITY STAFF OR HISTORICAL DATA WE'VE GATHERED FROM OTHER THIRD PARTIES WHO ARE VERIFIED AND CAN PROVIDE US WITH OBJECTIVE INFORMATION SO THAT WE CAN THEN PROVIDE SAGE RECOMMENDATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL.
I'M NOT CERTAIN IF WE HAVE, FROM WHAT I OBSERVED IN AROUND HERE, AGAIN, FROM WORK, IF WE HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO PRESENT THAT IN A QUARTERLY PRESENTATION TO CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ABOUT THE GLASS RECYCLING, IF OF COURSE I'M INCORRECT, I YIELD TO THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
MR. CHAIRMAN AND MISS VICE CHAIRMAN. YES, I BELIEVE THAT RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE THAT WE WERE PLANNING ON PRESENTING TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THE GLASS RECYCLING. PRIMARILY, WE WERE PRESENTING A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE LOOK FURTHER INTO THE GLASS RECYCLING PROGRAM AS OPPOSED TO AN ACTUAL GLASS RECYCLING PROGRAM. JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL IS INTERESTING, ARE INTERESTED TO THEM.
AND WE CAN FURTHER DEVELOP THAT PLAN, WHICH IS WHAT I WANTED TO DIVE INTO BECAUSE I, IF I RECALL, I THINK CITY STAFF HAS HAD EXPERIENCE WITH GLASS RECYCLING OR HAS CONTACTS TO OTHER CITIES WHO'VE DONE GLASS RECYCLING.
COULD WE GET MATERIALS RELATED TO THAT SO THAT WE AS THE BOARD CAN, YOU KNOW, LOOK OVER THOSE MATERIALS AND THEN PRESENT RECOMMENDATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL IF THAT IS NECESSARY? WE CAN LOOK INTO OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THAT HAVE GLASS RECYCLING IN THEIR IN THEIR IN THEIR TRASH PROGRAMS AND SEE WHAT WHAT KIND OF PROGRAMS THEY OFFER FOR RECYCLING AND HOW IT'S MANAGED, AND THEN PASS THAT INFORMATION ALONG FOR YOU.
AND HAVE WE HAD GLASS RECYCLING BEFORE IN PALM BAY? AND IF SO, WHY DID WE STOP IT? WHAT ARE THE POSITIVE AND NEGATIVES? THE COST. BECAUSE THE CITY'S GOING TO ASK ABOUT THE COST AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
THE THE ONLY THING I CAN SAY IS I'VE, I'VE HEARD FROM CITIZENS WHO HAVE BEEN HERE A LOT LONGER THAN I HAVE THAT AT ONE POINT IN TIME OR ANOTHER, OR MAYBE EVEN ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS, THERE WAS GLASS RECYCLING AT ONE POINT.
I CANNOT ATTEST AS TO WHETHER WASTE MANAGEMENT, WHO WAS THE PROVIDER PRIOR TO REPUBLIC, OFFERED IT.
I DON'T BELIEVE THEY DID, BUT I COULD BE WRONG.
I COULD FIND OUT FROM SORRY FOR THE INTERRUPTION, BUT WASTE MANAGEMENT DID ACCEPT GLASS IN RECYCLING. I'VE RECEIVED CONFLICTING INFORMATION.
THEY WERE JUST PUTTING IT IN A LANDFILL ANYWAY.
AND THE REASON WE DIDN'T GO WITH REPUBLIC AGAIN, WHEN IT CAME UP FOR RENEWAL OF THEIR CONTRACT, AS THEY SENT A LETTER SAYING THEY WOULD NOT RENEW THEIR CONTRACT, THEY WERE NOT INTERESTED IN BIDDING IN PALM BAY BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE ARE SOME OF THE COST TO THEM, WHERE WE ALLOWED UNLIMITED BULK ITEMS AT THE CURB FOR THEM TO PICK UP AT NO FEE.
SO THEY WE WERE PRETTY MUCH THE ONLY BIDDER WAS OUR CURRENT REPUBLIC SERVICES.
GOTCHA. THANK YOU REBECCA. SO WITH THAT INFORMATION, THE ONLY OTHER THING I CAN DO, LIKE I SAID, IS TALK TO OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, FIND ONES WITH RECYCLING PROGRAMS THAT ACTUALLY HAVE THE SINGLE STREAM RECYCLING THINGS THAT DON'T JUST GO STRAIGHT TO THE LANDFILL.
SEE HOW THEY DO THAT AND THEN GET THAT BACK TO YOU.
GREAT. THAT'D BE GREAT TO HAVE THAT. IN ADDITION, WE HAVE THE INFORMATION, I BELIEVE, FROM NOT ONLY THIS MEETING, BUT THE PAST MEETINGS FROM MISS MISS BARBER, IF I SAID THAT CORRECTLY.
SO IF WE IF WE CAN UTILIZE BOTH OF THOSE TOGETHER, THAT WOULD HELP US TO THEN COME TOGETHER TO CREATE A RECOMMENDATION AND COMBINE OUR TALENTS ON HOW WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, FOR ALLOWING ME THE TIME TO TO ADDRESS THAT, BECAUSE WE HAVE THE CITY STAFF HERE IN FRONT OF US.
THANK YOU. AND I BELIEVE WE DID HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON SINCE WE REOPENED THE GLASS DISCUSSION AND SOME CONTEXT BEHIND WHAT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND WHAT PALM BAY MAY HAVE PREVIOUSLY DONE. THE ONLY THING THAT I WANTED TO ADD IS THAT REPUBLIC WAS VERY CLEAR IN OUR MEETING THAT THEY ARE NOT INTERESTED IN RECYCLING GLASS.
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THEY ARE MOVING TOWARD DOING THINGS WITH PLASTIC.BUT THEY ARE NOT INTERESTED IN GLASS, PERIOD, ANYWHERE.
THEY MADE THAT VERY CLEAR TO US. THANK YOU. CITY STAFF, CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT STATEMENT BY MISS BARBER, WHETHER OR NOT REPUBLIC IS NOT INTERESTED IN GLASS AT A LATER TIME? NOT TO BE. NOW, IF YOU DON'T KNOW. I ACTUALLY DO KNOW.
SPEAKING WITH JOANNE STANLEY FROM REPUBLIC DAY.
SHE HAS SAID EXACTLY AS LYDIA BARBOUR STATED, THEY HAVE NO INTEREST IN RECYCLING GLASS.
IT'S NOT COST EFFECTIVE. IT'S TOO EASY TO CONTAMINATE THE LOAD, WHICH THEN ENDS UP IN THE LANDFILL, WHICH IS COUNTERPRODUCTIVE TO THE INITIATIVE ANYWAY. SO AT LEAST FOR SOME TIME THEY HAVEN'T BEEN INTERESTED, NOR ARE THEY LOOKING TO REOPEN THAT AS A PURSUIT.
OKAY. YEAH. FORGIVE ME, MR. CHAIRMAN, BUT IF I JUST WANT TO JUST PERCOLATE THIS IN MY MIND.
BUT IF WE HAVE A WASTE PROVIDER THAT IN THE CITY THAT'S NOT INTERESTED IN RECYCLING GLASS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO EITHER FIND AN ALTERNATIVE TO THAT.
AND I'M JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND IF THAT'S, IF I'M UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY WHAT THE BOARD IS TRYING TO DERIVE HERE AS A, AS A POSSIBLE SOLUTION SO THAT WE CAN ADDRESS THE CONCERNS RAISED BY MISS BARBOUR.
I BELIEVE IS WHAT THEIR NAME IS. SO SHE HAS UNFORTUNATELY MISSED HER COMMENTS EARLIER TODAY DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION, BUT SHE PRESENTED A LOT OF THAT INFORMATION. SHE'S BEEN DOING A LOT OF MEETINGS ONE ON ONE WITH REPRESENTATIVES TO DO A LOT OF THE LEGWORK AND HAS IDENTIFIED NOT ONLY A SOURCE FOR THE CONTAINERS, BUT ALSO A THIRD PARTY WHO IS INTERESTED IN TAKING THE GLASS FROM US.
OKAY. ONE LAST QUESTION. OF COURSE, WE'LL MOVE TO CLOSE THIS TOPIC IN LIGHT OF A LOT OF THOSE COMMENTS JUST WANTED TO SEE IF, IF WE HAD AN INITIAL SNIFF TEST ASSESSMENT FROM CITY STAFF TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS EVEN FEASIBLE.
WE DON'T WANT TO, TO WASTE OUR RESOURCES. YES.
MISS BARBOUR CAN ANSWER THAT. WHEN MR. MORTON CAME ON TO THE JOB, SUSAN CONNOLLY AND I HAD A MEETING WITH HIM ABOUT RECYCLING GLASS AND GETTING IT RESTARTED IN PALM BAY, AND HE DIRECTED US TO WORK THROUGH THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD TO GET IT DONE.
SO YES, WE HAVE THE SUPPORT. THANK YOU. JUST A COMMENT FOR ME SINCE I'M HERE FOR 35 YEARS WHEN OUR RECYCLING PROGRAM WAS THREE PLASTIC BINS.
NO, NO COVER ONE WAS GLASS, ONE WAS PLASTIC AND ONE WAS PAPER.
AND THAT WENT OUT ONCE A WEEK. EXCELLENT. OKAY, JUST ONE FOLLOW UP COMMENT.
THAT MEANS MEMBERS OF THIS BOARD ARE BORDER HAVE TO WORK ON THIS PLAN TO PUT IT ALL TOGETHER.
IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME EFFORT, SOME TIME PROBABLY GOING TO NEED TO SPLIT UP INTO SOME SORT OF A WORKING GROUP TO KIND OF COME TOGETHER AND PUT THIS ON PAPER, SO TO SPEAK. SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO CONSIDER.
HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE TURN ALL THESE IDEAS INTO ACTION? AND THAT'S BEEN THE BIGGEST STRUGGLE SO FAR. WITH THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD IS PRESENTING THE IDEAS WITH LIMITED RESOURCES AND LIMITED ABILITY TO ACT ON IT OTHER THAN CAPACITY AS INDIVIDUALS. I, IF, IF WE HAD THE ANSWER TO THAT, THEN WE WOULD BE ABLE TO GET A LOT MORE DONE.
MR. CHAIR, I THINK THE ANSWER IS THAT WHAT WE CAN UTILIZE, THE POWERS THAT WE HAVE IS, AS VICE CHAIRMAN TALKED ABOUT THIS, THE THE FACT FIGHTING. SO PERHAPS WE CAN APPOINT SOME INDIVIDUALS.
I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO VOLUNTEER. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THAT PRELIMINARY ASSESSMENT FROM CITY STAFF THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO WASTE OUR RESOURCES GOING DOWN THAT ROUTE. IF THEY THINK CITY COUNCIL, I WANT TO AVOID THOSE RED FLAGS.
IF THE BOARD IS WILLING TO DO THAT, IF SOMEONE ELSE IS WILLING TO, TO, TO WORK WITH ME ON THAT, THAT'D BE GREAT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME UP IN OUR SUNSHINE LAW THING LAST TIME, AND I HAD A QUESTION I
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ASKED, WELL, I TOLD THE ATTORNEY THAT COMMITTEES ARE ALLOWED TO COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER.WE CAN HAVE A COMMITTEE TO DO THIS. THE ONLY THING THE COMMITTEE CANNOT DO IS, IS DRAW CONCLUSIONS.
THE CONCLUSIONS WILL HAPPEN AT THIS MEETING. SO ANY OF US WHO WANT TO WORK ON THIS PROJECT CAN AND WE CAN PICK WHATEVER PHASE OF IT WE'D LIKE TO. BUT I THINK IT'S MORE PRODUCTIVE WHEN WE FUNCTION IN COMMITTEES BECAUSE WE'RE MORE LIKELY TO COME UP WITH A, YOU KNOW, A FULL PRESENTATION. AND I THINK THINGS WILL BE EXPEDITED THAT WAY.
SO ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO BE ON THE COMMITTEE, I KNOW LYDIA DOES.
DO WE HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE? THIS IS A QUESTION FOR CITY STAFF TO CREATE THOSE COMMITTEES.
DO WE KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS IS? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE JUST VOTE ON? YOU CAN CREATE IT. THERE'S NO RULES. PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE.
ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO FEELS THEY CAN CONTRIBUTE.
BUT NOTHING IS CONCLUDED UNTIL WE COME HERE AND DISCUSS IT.
OKAY. AND UNDER SUNSHINE, THAT'S ALLOWED. IT'S A LITTLE ROUGH BECAUSE I STILL GO.
I JUST, FOR MY OWN SAKE WOULD DOUBLE WOULD LIKE TO DOUBLE CHECK WITH WILL.
DID HE ALSO INCLUDE AS TO ANY STIPULATIONS THAT WOULD NEED TO BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT WHEN WHEN DOING THE COMMITTEE OR IS IT JUST FREE REIN? LET'S START A COMMITTEE. THE ONLY RESTRICTION ON A COMMITTEE IS YOU DON'T MAKE A DECISION FOR THE BOARD.
AND TOGETHER WE CAN ASK WHOEVER THAT PERSON ON THAT COMMITTEE IS.
IT WOULD ALLOW US TO DO THAT SIMPLE EXCHANGE OF INFORMATION AND EVERYTHING THAT WE DISCUSS.
WE KEEP OUR OWN RECORD AND WE PRESENT IT TO THE BOARD, AND THAT'S HOW IT WORKS.
AND IT DOESN'T VIOLATE SUNSHINE. CAN WE SIMPLY JUST NOMINATE THE INDIVIDUALS NOW AND THEN? THE CITY STAFF CAN IRON OUT THE DETAILS, AND THEN WE CAN FORM THE COMMITTEE AND FIGURE OUT WHAT WE WANT TO FOCUS ON.
YOU KNOW BECAUSE I THINK IT MIGHT TAKE A LITTLE CONTEMPLATION OR FIGURE OUT WHERE YOU, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU COULD BE MOST EFFECTIVE. I THINK YOU HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU'RE FOCUSING ON AND THEN FORM THE COMMITTEE LEGALLY.
I THINK IN THE LETTER IT SAID YOU HAVE TO IT HAS TO BE FOR A SPECIFIC PURPOSE.
YEAH. THE PURPOSE IS TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE THIS WORK.
I THINK YOU SAID IT IS VERY NARROW CIRCUMSTANCES.
IF WE NEED MORE SPECIFICITY, THAT'S A VALID A GOOD POINT.
SO OF COURSE SPECIFICITY SHOULD SURROUND THE GLASS RECYCLING GLASS RECYCLING COMMITTEE TO IDENTIFY SPECIFIC PATHWAYS OR AVENUES THAT COULD BE UTILIZED TO IMPLEMENT A A THIRD PARTY GLASS RECYCLING SOLUTION IN PALM BAY.
SO THIS IS BEING RECORDED. SO THEN WE HAVE THAT IN THE MINUTES.
SO NOW, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF YOU ALLOW ME, I MOVE TO SELECT TWO INDIVIDUALS OR SELECT INDIVIDUALS FROM THE SAB TO BE APPOINTED TO THIS FACT FINDING COMMITTEE AND I VOLUNTEER TO BE A PART, IF YOU WILL PERMIT ME TO DO SO.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'M GOING TO CHANGE MY NAME TO SECOND.
WE HAVE A SECOND. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO. AT THIS POINT WE WOULD I THINK MR. TEDDER WAS INTERESTED IN PARTICIPATING AS ONE OF THOSE COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
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DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WAS INTERESTED IN PARTICIPATING IN THE GLASS RECYCLING COMMITTEE? I WILL DO IT. AND I'D LIKE LYDIA TO PARTICIPATE IN IT.AND TONY WOULD LIKE TO. YEAH, I'D BE GLAD TO HELP.
OKAY, EXCELLENT. WE HAVE A THIRD. EXCELLENT. ALL RIGHT.
I BELIEVE THAT CONCLUDES OUR DISCUSSION ON THE THE GLASS RECYCLING.
WE WILL MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER THREE, WHICH IS MONTHLY MEETING THEMES.
MR. CHAIR, HAVE WE DONE BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER ONE ALREADY? WE MOVED THAT WE HAD A MOTION EARLIER TODAY TO MOVE THAT TO THE END OF NEW BUSINESS.
OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. SO BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER THREE.
I'VE TAKEN THE, THE TIME THAT I HAD IN BETWEEN THE LAST MEETING TO KIND OF CREATE DIFFERENT THEMES.
AND THIS IS GOING TO BE TIED INTO BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER FOUR HERE SHORTLY.
SO JUST KIND OF LOOKING AT WHAT WE DISCUSSED IN THE PREVIOUS MEETING ABOUT LOCAL CLIMATE RISK.
AND I TALKED ABOUT TRANSITION RISK SUCH AS POLICY, LEGAL AND CLIMATE RISK AND LOCAL RISK.
AND WE DISCUSSED ABOUT THE ABOUT DIFFERENT THINGS HERE FLOODING, SEA LEVEL RISE, WILDFIRES, RAW SEWAGE SPILLS, AND OF COURSE, DRINKING WATER AS BEING SOME OF THE CONCERNS.
SO THEN HAVING A THEME FOR EVERY SINGLE MEETING THAT WE HAVE.
SO WE'RE DISCUSSING AND MONITORING THESE REGULARLY.
AND YOU CAN SEE WHETHER X IS PROPOSED. AND I'M PROPOSING THIS.
SO FOR EXAMPLE NOW FOR THE MONTH OF JUNE WE'RE IN OR HEADING INTO THE HURRICANE SEASON.
OF COURSE FLOOD RISK. WE ALREADY SAW SOME COLLECTION OF WATER.
I WAS TALKING TO A CITIZEN RECENTLY, AND THEY DISCUSSED ABOUT HOW THEY'RE ALWAYS HAVING A LOT OF WATER THAT COLLECTS IN FRONT OF THEIR BUSINESS HERE IN PALM BAY, OFF OF MALABAR AND BABCOCK ROAD. SO THEN THAT'S THAT FIRST MONTH OF JUNE, AND THEN THE 2ND JULY.
WE HAVE HEAT IMPACTS. WE HAD SOME PRETTY HIGH HEAT.
SO LOOKING AT THAT AND LOOKING WITH REGARDS TO THAT.
SO I WANTED TO, JUST TO SET THE FRAMEWORK. SO WE HAVE THIS IDEA, THIS, WHICH GOES BACK TO THE MOTION WE DISCUSSED US PREVIOUSLY ABOUT HAVING SELECT COMMITTEE MEMBERS HERE SO THAT IF WE'RE DISCUSSING, SAY, YOU KNOW, HURRICANE RISK, WE HAVE THE STORM WATER, WE HAVE PUBLIC WORKS HERE. BUT IF WE'RE DISCUSSING SOMETHING ELSE THAT THAT PERSON OR PERSONS COULD BE AVAILABLE TO US OR BE GIVEN A CONTACT LIAISON, SO THEY'RE NOT EVERYONE WOULD HAVE TO SHOW UP.
THAT'S WHY I WAS TALKING ABOUT IN THAT MOTION THAT THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD GIVE, GIVE, BE GIVEN DISCRETION, THAT THESE INDIVIDUAL WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE THE ENTIRE CADRE AT THE SAME TIME THAT WE HAVE A BATTLE RHYTHM OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
SO GOING THROUGH THIS ONE BY ONE, SO JULY, SOLAR ENERGY AND WILDFIRE PREPAREDNESS, LOOKING AT THAT SO WE CAN PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS TO TO THE CITY COUNCIL. SO SAY FOR SOLAR ENERGY, IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN IMPACT THERE WITH, YOU KNOW, PRACTICALLY SAY FOR EXAMPLE, IT'S SOLAR ENERGY ON, ON CITY FACILITIES THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE ADDED OR PERHAPS I'M JUST RUMINATING HERE WE'RE SPITBALLING BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, MAYBE ADDING SOME OF THE FLEET COULD BE CONVERTED TO THINGS OF THAT NATURE. AUGUST. WE HAVE WATER CONSERVATION, WATER QUALITY, AND WASTEWATER INFRASTRUCTURE.
TO BE LOOKING AT THAT, LOOKING AT THE ORDINANCES AGAIN, JUST DOING OUR JOB AS IT STATES.
AND IN SEPTEMBER, NATIVE PLANTS AND WILDLIFE PRESERVATION, LOOKING AT WILDLIFE.
I KNOW EVEN ON PALM BAY AND DAIRY ROAD THERE, IF YOU GO LATE HOURS, YOU'LL SOMETIMES SEE WILDLIFE CROSSING THE ROAD THAT YOU WILL NEVER SEE DURING THE DAY. AND YOU'RE LIKE, OH MY GOSH, WHAT IS THAT DOING HERE? I THINK I MIGHT HAVE SEEN A A WOLF OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT.
IT WAS QUITE, QUITE COOL. TO USE A VERNACULAR WORD.
THEN THESE ARE THE DIFFERENT TYPES I THOUGHT ABOUT.
LET'S JUST JUMP DOWN TO NOVEMBER. CITY EQUIPMENT SUSTAINABILITY REVIEW IS LOOKING AT CITY EQUIPMENT AND SEEING HOW WE CAN MAKE IT MORE SUSTAINABLE PER SE WITHIN WITHIN REASON. FOR EXAMPLE, SAY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE UTILIZING GAS ON, ON THE LAWN MOWERS.
MAYBE SOME OF THEM COULD BE ELECTRIC. POSSIBLY YOU DON'T WANT TO DO ALL THEM ELECTRIC.
YOU WANT TO HAVE THIS DIVERSITY BECAUSE THEN THAT MIGHT RESULT IN, YOU KNOW, LESS COSTS, WHICH REDUCE COSTS, WHICH THEN WOULD SAVE MONEY FOR THE CITY AND THEREFORE BE THAT MONEY COULD BE DIVERTED ELSEWHERE.
SO REALLY LIKE ANALYZING THESE THINGS AND THEN SHIFTING THAT TO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE POLICE FLEET OR FIREFIGHTER, MAYBE THE CITY BUILDINGS. THAT'S IN DECEMBER, THE INCLUDING LED RETROFIT.
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SO THEN IF WE COULD TALK TO THAT CITY STAFF MEMBER DURING THAT TIME WHO WOULD BE HERE, WE COULD DISCUSS THAT AND SEE IF THAT COULD BE IMPLEMENTED.I KNOW THAT THAT HAS BEEN ONE WAY THAT CITIES HAVE REDUCED COST.
SO HOPEFULLY YOU CAN SEE THE THEME THERE OF WHAT I'M TRYING TO TO PROPOSE AND I LEFT MAY OPEN.
SO TO GIVE US SOME, SOME BREATHING ROOM IF WE NEED TO ADD SOME SOMETHING ELSE OR SIMPLY JUST TO BREATHE, BECAUSE SOMETIMES THE BREATHING SPACE ALLOWS CREATIVITY TO OCCUR.
THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT THAT? MR. TUDOR'S PLAN AT THIS TIME. I'M JUST ONE GENERAL COMMENT.
AGAIN, THIS IS MY BIGGEST AREA OF INTEREST DECEMBER.
ONE THING I THIS IS KIND OF WHERE I LIVE IS VENTILATION EFFICIENCY IN BUILDINGS IS OFTEN OVERLOOKED AND CAN BE A HUGE, SIGNIFICANT SAVER OF ENERGY AND AT THE SAME TIME COULD ALSO IMPROVE INDOOR AIR QUALITY.
THIS KIND OF GOES BACK TO WHAT I HAD SUGGESTED EARLY IN MY TENURE HERE, IS THAT EACH OF US FIND A TOPIC OF OUR PASSION AND, AND TRY TO FOCUS ON THAT IN OUR REPORTS.
YOU KNOW, THE DEPTH OF TODAY'S MEETING, I HAD ASKED THAT I WAS GOING TO DEAL WITH THE WATER CONSERVATION STUFF, BUT BECAUSE OF ILLNESS, I ASKED TO POSTPONE IT TO NEXT MONTH, BUT NOW IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S IN AUGUST.
WELL, I THINK THIS IS JUST A PROPOSED THEME LIST.
THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY SOMETHING THAT WE ARE GOING TO HARD, FAST GO TO.
BUT WE CAN DISCUSS IT AS A BOARD AND DECIDE WHAT MONTHS WE WANT TO DO, WHAT THINGS.
THE ONE THING THAT I CAUTION IS I LOVE THIS IDEA.
AS HAS BEEN SHOWN THROUGH THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARDS.
SO I DO LIKE HAVING THE ABILITY TO PRESCHEDULE TOPICS AND POTENTIALLY GET STAFF MEMBERS INVOLVED WITH IT, KNOWING THAT WE HAVE CERTAIN THINGS ON THE SCHEDULE.
BUT WE'RE GOING TO END UP HAVING, ESPECIALLY IF WE FIND LARGE INFORMATION, WE'RE GOING TO START BUILDING UP A LARGE BACKLOG OF INFORMATION THAT WE ARE WORKING ON AND TOUCHING ON THESE THINGS MULTIPLE MONTHS IN A ROW.
I IDEALLY WOULD LOVE TO SEE THINGS HAPPEN IN A TWO HOUR MEETING.
AND THEN WE HAVE SOMETHING WE CAN PRESENT TO COUNCIL. BUT HISTORY HAS SHOWN THAT THAT IS NOT ENOUGH TIME TO PLAN AND ORGANIZE AND AS KIND OF HAS BEEN THE CASE WITH THE NATIVE PLANT GARDEN THAT WE SAW TONIGHT. THERE ARE LOTS OF HIDDEN STEPS THAT WE ARE GOING TO FALL INTO.
SO IF WE'RE TALKING, I VERY MUCH LOVE THE IDEA OF GOING TO SUSTAINABILITY, EQUIP OUR VEHICLE, OUR CITY EQUIPMENT, SUSTAINABILITY REVIEWS. BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO LOOK INTO THAT, THEN WE'RE TALKING.
AND IT'S JUST, I FEEL GIVEN THE RESOURCES THAT WE AS A BOARD HAVE WE KIND OF HAVE TO TAKE A MORE LIMITED SCOPE AS TO HOW WE APPROACH THINGS. I SEE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THE COST OF THESE THINGS.
IF WE CAN DETERMINE THAT WHAT THE COST IS OF.
RESPONDING TO EMERGENCIES AND TRAGEDIES RATHER THAN FIXING THEM AFTERWARD.
RETROFITTING. I KNOW THAT UNDER THE FORMER CITY MANAGER, SHE SPOKE TO US ABOUT THE NEW BUILDING AND THIS BUILDING, AND AT THE TIME THIS BUILDING WAS CONSTRUCTED, IT WAS BUILT TO THE HIGHEST ENERGY STAR STANDARDS THEY HAD BACK THEN, AND THEY HAVE DONE SOME RETROFITTING WHERE THEY WERE ABLE TO.
SO, FOR INSTANCE, THE THEY WENT TO A, A WATER BOTTLE REFILLING STATION INSTEAD OF.
RAIN STORM WATER CAPTURE SYSTEM. IT'S SOLAR CAPABLE ON THE ROOF.
THEIR WINDOWS ARE RECESSED. WE HAD THE ARCHITECT COME AND SPEAK TO US DURING THE BUILDING PROCESS.
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AND WE WANTED TO GET IN THERE FOR THE TOUR OF THE OPEN HOUSE.BUT THEY DID HAVE THEY DO ARE BUILT A VERY EFFICIENT STANDARDS SUSTAINABLE SUSTAINABILITY AND, AND CONSIDERING THE DIFFERENCE IN THE AGES AND THE STYLES, THEY WERE MANAGED TO MATCH THE STYLES OF BUILDING PRETTY WELL, YOU KNOW, AS A SECONDARY THING IN TERMS OF THE CITY EQUIPMENT, THE CITY REVIEWS WHAT IT NEEDS AND WHAT IT CAN GET IN CONTRACT AND PRICING PAYS PLAYS A BIG PART OF THAT. SOME OF THE THINGS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT FOR ELECTRIC MOWERS OR ELECTRIC VEHICLES, THE PRICING WE KNOW YOU SAVE ON MAINTENANCE, BUT THE COST UP FRONT IS SO EXPENSIVE. AND WHEN THEY PRICE THESE THINGS FOR, THEY SOURCE OUT A LOT OF THE PUBLIC, A LOT OF THE MOWING, FOR INSTANCE. BUT FOR WHAT THEIR FLEET NEEDS WAS THEY TAKE OLDER VEHICLES OFF THE STREET AND REPLACE THEM.
THEY'RE LOOKING AT A CONTRACT THAT'S USUALLY MULTI-YEAR, MULTIYEAR CONTRACT TO GET A GOOD DEAL, AND THERE'S RESTRICTIONS ON WHO THEY CAN. THEY HAVE TO HAVE SOMEONE WHO CAN DELIVER CONSISTENTLY WHEN THEY NEED IT.
SO THERE'S SOME THINGS ON HERE THAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT.
NONETHELESS, I THINK IT'S WORTH CONSIDERING LIKE WETLAND PRESERVATION, LOOKING AT THAT AND SAYING, HEY, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE ALLOW DEVELOPMENT ON WETLAND, IT PUSHES THE WATER ELSEWHERE.
THIS CAUSES FLOODING, THIS CAUSES DAMAGE TO STREETS THAT THEN THEY HAVE TO REBUILD THE STREET, YOU KNOW, IN THE SIDEWALK. AND WE'VE SEEN THAT OVER AND OVER AGAIN IN THE CITY ALREADY.
SO I THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS LIST, AND I THINK IT'S WORTH HAVING AND CONSIDERING AS WE GO FORWARD.
THANKS FOR BRINGING THAT TO MY ATTENTION. SO I JUST WANT TO KIND OF.
SUMMARIZE WHAT THE THE WHY THE PROPOSAL WAS SUBMITTED.
SO I WANTED TO DO THREE THINGS. SO WE HAVE THE MONTHLY THEMES AND WE HAVE THE STAFF AND THE REPORTS FROM THE STAFF THAT WE CAN GET BECAUSE WE CAN'T GET THE INFORMATION OURSELVES. WE HAVE TO WORK WITH THE CITY STAFF.
OF COURSE, WE CAN PULL FROM ONLINE SEARCHES AND WHATNOT, BUT THAT INFORMATION MAY NOT BE AS ACCURATE AS HISTORICAL DATA THE STAFF HAS, AND THEY'VE BEEN HERE FOR QUITE SOME TIME. LIKE VICE CHAIRMAN SAID, SHE'S BEEN HERE FOR 35 YEARS AND KNEW ABOUT THIS. DIFFERENT PLASTIC BINS FOR PAPER, PLASTIC AND GLASS. SO HAVING THAT CONDUIT. AND THEN THIRDLY, HAVING THIS KIND OF THEME, THIS ALLOWS US TO THEN SCHEDULE WHEN WE'RE GOING TO DO QUARTERLY PRESENTATIONS, THAT WHEN WE GO TO CITY COUNCIL, WE'RE NOT GOING AD HOC, BUT RATHER WE'RE GOING WITH A COMPLETED PLAN WITH, YOU KNOW, BUTTRESSED WITH A WITH SUFFICIENT DATA.
AND THEN I WANT TO ADD THAT I THINK THAT ALTHOUGH MY EFFORTS AT EASTERN FLORIDA STATE COLLEGE ALTHOUGH I ATTEMPTED TWICE TO GET SOMEONE THERE TO ASSIST US, THE, THEY DON'T HAVE ANY PERSON WHO'S INTERESTED.
SAB SO AND THEY SUPPOSEDLY GOT AN ACADEMIC CREDIT FOR THAT.
PERHAPS CITY STAFF CAN TALK ABOUT IT. AND CAN CITY STAFF TALK ABOUT THAT NOW? PLEASE? CLARIFY FOR ME WHAT THE IS THERE A PROGRAM WITH A PROFESSOR THAT THE THE CITY STAFF HAS CONTACTS WITH THAT COULD HELP SAB WITH REGARDS TO GENERATE REPORTS, MAYBE ABOUT ONE OF THESE TOPICS, FOR EXAMPLE. AND THEN THESE. THESE STUDENTS WOULD OF COURSE, GET CREDIT FOR IT.
AND WE CAN CONTINUE TO HAVE THIS PARTNERSHIP. AND THEY COULD AID US AS AS MEMBERS OF THE SAB.
SO WE'RE PROVIDING ADVICE TO CITY COUNCIL. I KNOW WHEN THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD FIRST CAME ABOUT, I T THERE WAS A PROFESSOR THERE. I BELIEVE HE STILL WORKS AT FIT THAT DID LOAN THE STUDENTS AS INTERNS TO WORK FOR THE BOARD. SHE, THE INTERN IS ACTUALLY THE ONE THAT WROTE THE SUSTAINABILITY ACTION PLAN THE FIRST TIME.
IT CAN'T BE JUST SHE SHOWS UP HERE AND YOU ASSIGN HER A BUNCH OF STUFF.
SO LIKE IF THIS PERSON WOULD HAVE COME ON AT THE BEGINNING OF THE, THE MEMORIAL GARDEN, THIS PERSON WOULD HAVE DONE ALL THAT RESEARCH FOR YOU AND PUT A PRESENTATION TOGETHER AND BUILT ALL THAT STUFF TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, I DO NOT KNOW THE NAME OF THE PROFESSOR.
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I KNOW I'VE SEEN HIM AT THE COUNCIL MEETINGS A COUPLE TIMES, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE WE CAN FIND OUT WHAT HIS NAME IS AND POSSIBLY FINALLY GET A CONTACT.OKAY, SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, SO WE HAVE IF WE HAVE A THEME THAT IS ADJUSTABLE, THIS IS NOT SET IN STONE, JUST PROPOSED OF WHAT WE COULD FOCUS ON. WE ALREADY HAVE OTHER TOPICS THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING DURING THE MEETING LIKE WE ARE TODAY, AND THAT WE'RE JUST KIND OF GOING THROUGH THAT BATTLE RHYTHM, CONTINUING TO MONITOR HOW WE CAN MAKE OUR CITY BETTER.
AND WE KNOW HOW WE CAN UTILIZE THESE TOOLS TO OUR BENEFIT.
SO TO ALL OF THAT IN THE AGGREGATE WILL, WILL ALLOW US TO FUNCTION BETTER SO THAT WHEN WE GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL, ALL OF OUR STUFF IS SQUARED AWAY AND THAT WE'VE GOT ALL OUR I'S DOTTED AND T'S CROSSED OUR PLANS, THE COST AND EVERYTHING, AND WE ARE WITHIN THE AUSPICES OF OUR RESPONSIBILITIES, WHICH THEN MIGHT LEAD TO THEM PROVIDING US WITH ADDITIONAL BUDGET FOR US TO INCREASE OUR WORK AND DO AN EVEN BETTER, BETTER JOB, PROVIDED THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW, WE'RE DOING IT WELL. SO I THINK THAT THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER THAT, AND I'LL LEAVE IT TO THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD TO LET ME KNOW WHAT THEY THINK.
I'M LOOKING AT THIS ONE ITEM WITH CITY EQUIPMENT AND SUSTAINABILITY REVIEW.
ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT WE HAVE TO APPROVE THEM BEFORE THEY BUY ANYTHING? ABSOLUTELY NOT. I WAS SUGGESTING BECAUSE THE IT STATES HERE IN OUR SECTION, THE PURPOSE AND INTENT OF THE SHALL BE TWO, WHICH NEEDS TO BE AMENDED, AND WE'LL DISCUSS LATER ON TO ADVISE AND ASSIST THE CITY OF COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER, CITY STAFF IN MATTERS RELATING TO POLLUTION REDUCTION, WATER QUALITY. ADDITIONAL INITIATIVES, SKIP OVER COMMUNITY EDUCATION AND INVOLVEMENT. WE ALREADY DO THAT VERY WELL AND ASSESSING LOCAL CLIMATE RISK.
SO ONE OF THE LOCAL WHAT ARE THE LOCAL CLIMATE RISKS? WE DISCUSSED THAT BEFORE IN THE LAST MEETING WILDFIRES, FLOODING, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
BUT WE'RE ALSO NAMED SUSTAINABILITY BOARD. SO WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THINGS BETTER. SO LOOKING AT CITY EQUIPMENT, IF WE'RE JUST, AGAIN, THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE.
WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT. BUT I SAID IF WE HAD A LAWN MOWER, WE HAVE, SAY 50 GASOLINE LAWN MOWERS.
AND MAYBE WE WANT WE CAN USE LAWN MOWER THAT'S ELECTRIC POWERED.
THAT COULD BE A WAY TO HELP OUR CITY. POSSIBLY.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT IS. WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AT IT AND LOOK AT THE RISK PER SE, BUT JUST THROWING AN IDEA OUT THERE SO THAT WE CAN THEN ADVISE THE CITY AND LOOK AT SPECIFIC ORDINANCES AND LOOK AT DIFFERENT PLANS, OR LOOKING AT FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT AND TALKING ABOUT HOW THAT WORKS AND RECOMMENDING CHANGES OR AMENDMENTS TO THAT IF NECESSARY. YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE HAVE THE CITY STAFF ALONGSIDE HERE WITH US TO LET US KNOW WHAT INFORMATION WOULD BE HELPFUL TO US. SO JUST KIND OF FOCUS IN ON WHAT OUR RESPONSIBILITIES ARE AND THEN IDENTIFYING TOPICS SO THAT WE'RE NOT LIKE CREATING A SYLLABUS IN THE CLASS.
SO WE'RE NOT KIND OF LIKE JUST GOING AND JUST UNGUIDED EVERY SINGLE MONTH, BUT WE STILL HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY AND THE DISCRETION TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL TOPICS BECAUSE WE'RE THE BOARD, WE CAN PUT A MOTION IN THROUGH PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE.
AGAIN, I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO SOUND NEGATIVE ON THIS BECAUSE I DO VERY MUCH LOVE THE IDEA AND I 100% GET WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH IT. A LOT OF WHAT YOU JUST SAID SOUNDS LIKE WE ARE GOING TO NEED A LOT OF CITY STAFF RESOURCES, AND WE DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO GET THOSE CITY STAFF RESOURCES.
THAT'S, I THINK THAT GOES OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE OF WHAT WE ARE ALLOWED TO ASK THEM TO DO FOR US.
I JUST THINK THAT WE DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY AS A BOARD TO REQUEST WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO REQUEST IN ORDER TO GET THIS INFORMATION AND BE EFFECTIVE WITH THE PLAN AS PRESENTED.
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IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE. IT DOES MAKE SENSE. I JUST HAVE TWO QUESTIONS.CITY STAFF, COULD YOU GIVE US DATA WITH REGARDS TO FACILITIES OR EQUIPMENT WITHIN SAY VIA EMAIL OR DURING A MEETING IF YOU OTHERWISE CANNOT DO THE RESEARCH YOURSELF AND GATHER THE INFORMATION.
YES, WE CAN ASSIST IF IT'S THINGS LIKE HOW MANY ELECTRIC ZERO TURN MOWERS YOU HAVE AT PUBLIC WORKS, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU COULDN'T GOOGLE THAT INFORMATION AND GATHER IT.
TO YOU. OKAY, SO HERE'S ANOTHER REAL LIFE CASE EXAMPLE.
COULD YOU TELL US HOW MANY LIGHTS WE HAVE IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY THAT WE COULD LOOK AT FOR LED RETROFIT TRACKING THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED BY CITY COUNCIL IN THE PAST. YOU MEAN LIKE STREET LIGHTS? YES. YES, SIR.
I CAN GATHER THAT INFORMATION FROM YOU. OKAY.
OKAY. AND THAT'S. IS THAT A IS THAT AN ARDUOUS TASK OR IS THAT THAT THAT SOMEBODY COULD PUT A REQUEST TO AND THEN MAYBE WE COULD GET IT VIA EMAIL AT A LATER DATE BEFORE THE NEXT SCHEDULED MEETING. I ACTUALLY DO NOT BELIEVE THAT IT WOULD BE THAT DIFFICULT TO SPEAK WITH TRAFFIC OPS TO GET THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU.
OKAY. SO LASTLY, I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF LIKE SET THE STAGE THERE TO KIND OF EXAMINE BECAUSE WE, WE ARE LIMITED ON WHAT WE CAN DO. SO I'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND PUT A MOTION AND YOU GUYS CAN APPROVE AND DENY IT SO WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM ON THE LIST.
I HAVE A QUESTION. YES, SIR. THOSE ARE JUST EXAMPLES, CORRECT.
OR ARE YOU ASKING ME TO PROVIDE YOU THAT INFORMATION? THOSE ARE JUST EXAMPLES AT THIS TIME. PERFECT.
THANK YOU. I MOVE TO ADOPT THIS MONTHLY THEME THAT CAN BE CHANGED, SUBJECT TO THE DISCRETION OF THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD.
FOR EXAMPLE, WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVING WATER CONSERVATION TO JULY INSTEAD OF AUGUST SO THAT VICE CHAIRMAN CAN DISCUSS THE TOPIC AND MOVING THE JULY TOPIC HEAT IMPACTS TO AUGUST.
SO THAT WE HAVE A MONTHLY THEME IN PLACE. SO THEN WE COULD THEN UTILIZE THAT AS A RUBRIC, NOT AS A BARRICADE OR A BARRIER, BUT AS A RUBRIC AS WE FULFILL OUR JOB LISTED IN SECTION ONE, ARTICLE ONE OF THE BYLAWS.
OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MONTHLY THEME LIST SUBJECT TO CHANGE.
PER BOARD MOTIONS. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
OKAY, WE HAVE A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO. WE WILL MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
SO WE HAVE QUITE A BIT LEFT ON THE AGENDA. BUT WE DO HAVE AN 8:00 TIME FRAME.
THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO DISCUSS, MR. CHAIRMAN, ON THE QUARTERLY PRESENTATIONS.
I KNOW THAT WE WANT TO DISCUSS THE REMEMBRANCE GARDEN.
AND WE DISCUSSED ABOUT TABLING THAT, BUT I KNOW THAT'S ON THE AGENDA AS A CONCERN.
THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON DOING QUARTERLY PRESENTATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL? PERSONALLY, I THINK WE SHOULD BE DOING PRESENTATIONS WHEN WE HAVE SUFFICIENT DATA AND SOMETHING ACTIONABLE TO BRING TO THEM.
I DON'T KNOW THAT TYING IT INTO QUARTERLY. YEAH, IT'S A NICE GOAL.
BUT TO SAY IT SOUNDS ALMOST LIKE WE'RE LIMITING, LIMITING THINGS TO FOUR TIMES A YEAR.
AND I'M NOT SURE THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. YEAH, I WOULD HAVE TO SAY I'M A BIT OF A SIMILAR MINDSET.
WHENEVER WE HAVE SOMETHING WORTH SPEAKING OF AND PRESENTING TO CITY COUNCIL.
I JUST USE MY THREE MINUTES OF PUBLIC SPEAKING OCCASIONALLY.
I HAVE BEEN MOVED TO BOARD REPORTS AND GET THREE MINUTES AT THE END OF THE MEETING INSTEAD.
I'M NOT SURE THAT WE KIND OF TO MISS THIS POINT.
I'M NOT SURE THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE SOMETHING QUARTERLY TO PRESENT TO THEM.
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I WOULD LIKE THAT TO BE THE CASE. AND I KNOW THAT THAT'S KIND OF WHAT YOU'RE GOING FOR WITH THIS MOTION IS IF WE HAVE THAT GOAL SET, WE WILL HAVE TO OBTAIN IT. AGAIN, I, I, THE BIGGEST CONCERN BEHIND IT IS IT KIND OF MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR US TO OBTAIN THINGS WITHIN A QUARTERLY SYSTEM BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING THREE MONTHS HAVING EVERY, ALL OF OUR DUCKS IN A ROW WITHIN THREE MONTHS, THAT'S SIX HOURS OF SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD MEETINGS.IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO KIND OF GET THAT KIND OF STUFF.
THAT'S MY PRIMARY CONCERN IS. HAVING THE MONTHLY MEETING THEMES, ARE THE QUARTERLY PRESENTATIONS ON.
THERE IS KIND OF A. IT'S A HIGH BAR FOR US TO OBTAIN FOR THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD.
OKAY. MR. CHAIR, WHAT DO THE OTHER BOARDS DO TO OBTAIN GET THEIR AGENDA OR ITEMS ACROSS TO THE CITY COUNCIL? AS FAR AS I'M AWARE, THERE ARE NO BOARDS THAT PRESENT ANYTHING TO CITY COUNCIL.
WE ARE THE ONLY BOARD THAT HAS A REGULAR PRESENCE AT OUR AT REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS.
OKAY. AND HOW MUCH TIME WOULD YOU HAVE CITY STAFF IF WE DID DO QUARTERLY PRESENTATION WITH THE CITY COUNCIL? SO LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, WE THE MISTER CHAIR MENTIONED ONLY HAS THREE MINUTES FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
HOW MUCH TIME WILL WE HAVE IF WE DID QUARTERLY PRESENTATION? I THINK THE PRESENTATIONS, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, IS ABOUT TEN MINUTES.
MR. CHAIR OF THAT. YEP. SORRY TO KIND OF INTERJECT.
IT DEPENDS ON HOW WE APPROACH IT. SO WE HAVE OUR THREE MINUTES OF PUBLIC COMMENT THAT WE CAN USE IN ANY MEETING WHENEVER WE WANT TO. IF WE ACTUALLY BRING IT FORWARD AS A PRESENTATION LIKE I DID WITH THE ORIGINAL NATIVE PLANT GARDEN, IT IS TEN MINUTES AND IT IS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETINGS.
AND IF WE ARE GOING TO BRING SOMETHING UP THAT WE WANT DISCUSSION AND INTERACTION WITH CITY COUNCIL, WE WOULD ACTUALLY NEED TO APPROACH IT AS AN AGENDA ITEM.
AND IN THAT CASE, I BELIEVE IT'S 30 MINUTES THAT WE WOULD HAVE AS THE PRESENTER FOR THE AGENDA ITEM.
AND THEN WE WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT BACK AND FORTH PUBLIC COMMENTS SECTION IN THAT AGENDA ITEM.
SO IT REALLY DEPENDS ON WHAT WE'RE KIND OF BRINGING TO THEM.
AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS GOING TO DO. WITH THE REMEMBRANCE GARDEN THIS TIME AROUND.
LAST TIME AROUND, IT WAS JUST A PRESENTATION.
THAT WAY WE HAVE A MORE FULL, BROAD DISCUSSION WITH THE CITY COUNCIL.
WE DON'T WANT TO BE SIMPLY SHELVED OR TABLED OR CANCELED.
WE THINK THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING IS IMPORTANT. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES NOW.
WE NEED TO HAVE ADDITIONAL TIME TO REALLY DISCUSS OUR PLANS, AND THIS MIGHT BE A WAY TO DO THAT.
BUT WE HAVING THAT, YOU KNOW, KNOWING THAT WE HAVE THAT MECHANISM IN PLACE.
WHAT'S MORE, I THINK IF YOU HAVE THE QUARTERLY PRESENTATION THAT WILL THIS LEND TO LEGITIMACY FOR THE BOARD? BECAUSE IF ALL THE OTHERS AREN'T DOING IT, THEY'RE NOT UTILIZING THAT TIME. AND WE'RE SUPPOSED TO ADVISE CITY COUNCIL.
AND WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS LIKE YOURSELF WHO'S GOING TO CITY COUNCIL ALREADY. THIS WILL REALLY GIVE YOU THE TIME AND THE SPACE TO DISCUSS AND SHOW THE FIVE W'S OF WHAT WE NEED, SUCH AS THE REMEMBRANCE GARDEN. AND SO IT DOESN'T SEEM AS IF WE'RE RUSHING THROUGH IT, TRYING TO INFLUENCE CITY COUNCIL WITHOUT PROVIDING THEM WITH ALL THE FIVE W'S.
SO WE HAVE LIMITED TIME. SO I'LL JUST SIMPLY SAY I MOVE TO ADD A QUARTERLY PRESENTATION FOR THE BOARD THAT IS NOT MANDATED, BUT RATHER AT THE REQUEST OF THE BOARD TO ENSURE THAT WE CAN PRESENT OUR PLANS IN A COGENT, CLEAR MANNER TO CITY COUNCIL. THAT WAY THAT THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR NEEDS ARE AND HOW WE'RE TRYING TO HELP BETTER THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND PROVIDE THEM WITH RECOMMENDATIONS WITH REGARDS TO OUR POSITIONS AS SAB. ALL RIGHT.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? CAN WE HAVE A DISCUSSION ON SOMETHING FIRST? DEREK AND ERIC. WHEN I RODE AROUND WITH YOU, THERE WAS A FORM THAT WE'RE.
THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE OUR PRIMARY FOCUS, I THOUGHT WAS MS FOUR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE SUBMITTED TO THE EPA. CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THAT'S ABOUT? BECAUSE I DON'T THINK CITY STAFF, ME AND ERIC WENT TO THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD PRIOR TO REQUEST THAT THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD MORE FOCUS ON
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THE MS4 PERMIT. YES, YES. WHEN THE BOARD DISCUSSED ABOUT DISCUSSED IT, THEY DECIDED THAT THEY WERE NOT A, THEY WERE NOT GOING TO HEAD IN THAT DIRECTION BASICALLY. SO THEY CONTINUED TO, THEY VOTED TO, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY CONTINUE TO DO WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING NOW.THAT MAKES SENSE. WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US RECONSIDER THAT SINCE WE'RE MOSTLY NEW.
AND SINCE IT IS PRODUCTIVE IN SOMETHING THAT WILL MAYBE HELP THE STAFF PREPARE THAT SUBMISSION.
AND THE HARDEST PART WITH IT TOO, WAS AT THE TIME OF THAT DETERMINATION.
SO A LOT OF WHAT WAS MENTIONED APPEARS IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
THERE WAS A LOT OF STUFF THAT THE CITY WAS ALREADY IMPLEMENTING OR DOING.
SO IT HAS SHIFTED HANDS AND THE FOCUS FOR US, IT WOULD BE EASIER IF THE BOARD DID LOOK AT THAT DIRECTION AS TRYING TO WORK WITH THE CITY ON THE MS4 REQUIREMENTS. BUT LIKE ERIC SAID, IT WAS, THE PREVIOUS DETERMINATION WAS THAT THEY WANTED TO CONTINUE WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE ORIENTED OBJECTIVES. I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT IN IN THE BYLAWS, WHICH I BELIEVE IS WHY IT'S ON HERE. AGAIN, IT DOES STATE THAT THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD WOULD NEED TO HAVE A ACTUAL PRESENTATION FOR COUNCIL ONCE A QUARTER. OKAY. BUT WE DO IT EVERY MONTH.
THANK YOU DOUG. I BELIEVE WHAT THEY'RE WHAT THEY'RE MORE REFERRING TO WAS LIKE AN ACTUAL PRESENTATION ON THE AGENDA, LIKE A POWERPOINT WITH PICTURES AND. OKAY, SO AN UPDATE, WOULD IT BE GEARED TO THE TO THAT FORM? SO WE NEED TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE NEEDS ARE ON THAT FORM.
SO WE CAN DECIDE HOW WE'RE GOING TO FULFILL THAT GAP AND HELP, HELP YOU GUYS.
AND WHEN YOU SAY FORM, YOU REFER TO THE MS4 PERMIT.
YES. OKAY. GOTCHA. CAN WE GET ACCESS TO THAT FORM BEFORE THE NEXT SCHEDULED MEETING? I ACTUALLY THOUGHT I HAD SENT IT OUT TO THE BOARD ALREADY ONCE BEFORE.
IF NOT, I'LL DOUBLE CHECK AND ABSOLUTELY SEND THAT TO YOU.
FOR SURE. I'LL CHECK MY EMAIL JUST IN CASE. OKAY.
AS ERIC HAD MENTIONED, CITY STAFF HAD MENTIONED THAT IS PART OF OUR BYLAWS.
SO THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO CONSIDER.
THERE WAS NOT A SECOND AT THAT TIME. DO I HAVE A SECOND? WELL, IF IT'S IN OUR BYLAWS, WE DON'T REALLY NEED A MOTION.
IT'S THERE. WE HAVE TO DO IT. RIGHT. I THINK THE MOTION IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE INCLUDED IN OUR MEETINGS. THAT WAY WE HAVE A FOCUS AS A BOARD AND TO GET THEM DONE.
THAT'S FINE. YEAH. OKAY. IS THAT A SECOND? THAT'S A SECOND.
OKAY. CALL ME SECOND. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A SECOND ON THE MOTION AT THIS TIME.
DO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE AYE AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO. WE WILL MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER FIVE, WHICH IS HURRICANE, HURRICANE PREPAREDNESS AND FLOOD RISK. I HAVE NOTHING MUCH TO SAY ON THIS TOPIC.
I WAS HOPING TO HEAR MORE FROM YOU ALL AND FROM THE STAFF.
AND AS I SAID BEFORE MY VERY FIRST MEETING, I WANT TO LEARN.
I REALLY LEARNED A LOT FROM VICE CHAIRMAN TODAY ABOUT THE GLASS RECYCLING AND DISCUSSING MS4.
SO I KNOW WE'RE ALL FLORIDIANS HERE, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE KNOW EVERYTHING.
SO I'M HERE TO, TO, TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE CAN DO WITH REGARDS TO THAT TOPIC.
THAT'S IT. I THINK CITY STAFF THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TONIGHT IS PRIMARILY A PUBLIC WORKS.
IF THEY COULD JUST POTENTIALLY GIVE US A BRIEF UPDATE ON FOR FLOOD RISK THAT STORMWATER MANAGEMENT IS THERE A WAY THAT, OR DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING THAT YOU THINK THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD COULD FOCUS ON FROM A STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AND FLOOD RISK PERSPECTIVE.
SO WE DO HAVE A FLOOD PLAIN MANAGER. WE DO HAVE FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT ORDINANCES THAT YOU COULD ASK FOR STAFF TO PROVIDE YOU FOR YOU TO READ AND MAKE SUGGESTIONS AND ON HOW TO UPDATE ON UPDATE THOSE ORDINANCES.
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VOTE ON IT, YOU KNOW, OR THE CHANGES TO THE ORDINANCES, VOTE ON IT AND PRESENT IT TO COUNCIL AND THEN MOVE FORWARD WITH HAVING IT, YOU KNOW, EFFECTIVELY CHANGED. BUT YES, YOU, YOU GUYS CAN DO THAT.MR. CHAIR YES, SIR. THANKS. HOW MANY ORDINANCES ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? AND WHAT ARE THE RISKS RIGHT NOW FOR FLOOD RISK IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
IN THE EVENT OF A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF RAIN OR HURRICANE.
SORRY. HOW MANY ORDINANCES ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? AND THEN THE CURRENT RISK FOR FLOOD RISK RIGHT NOW CITY OF PALM BAY WITH UPCOMING HURRICANE SEASON.
I BELIEVE THE BYLAWS JUST SAY ORDINANCES. I DON'T THINK IT SPECIFICALLY SAYS FLOODPLAIN ORDINANCES.
I ONLY SAID FLOODPLAIN ORDINANCE BECAUSE IT SAYS IT ON HERE.
I BELIEVE THE FLOODPLAIN ORDINANCE IS QUITE LARGE, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, BECAUSE I, I, I BELIEVE WE'VE PROVIDED IT TO THE BOARD BEFORE.
SO IT WOULDN'T BE, YOU KNOW, DIFFICULT TO FIND IT AND PROVIDE IT TO YOU AGAIN, PLEASE, IF I COULD.
AND THERE'S OTHER INFORMATION ON THE CITY WEBSITE.
AND THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY AS A BOARD MEMBER TO GO ON A 3 TO 5 TO EIGHT HOUR TOUR OF OUR FLOOD RESILIENCE HERE WITH THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS. THEY SOME OF THE MEMBERS HAVE DONE THAT GO OUT WITH THE CITY STAFF PERSON AND SOMEONE FROM PUBLIC WORKS AND LOOK AT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, OUR GREEN, GREEN, BLUE, GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE WITH THE WATER MANAGEMENT.
AND SOME OF IT IS WORKING ACROSS NOT JUST CITY FACILITIES, BUT INTO THE SAINT JOHNS RIVER WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT, BUT THE CANAL. THE CANAL. MELBOURNE TILLMAN INFORMATION IS ONLINE ALSO TO LOOK AT THE CANAL MANAGEMENT AND A LOT OF TIMES AHEAD OF. I MEAN, I GO TO TURKEY CREEK WHEN I KNOW THERE'S A STORM COMING, AND I SEE THAT THEY'VE OPENED THE FLOOD SO THAT THEY'RE DRAWING THE WATER DOWN IN THE CANALS. AHEAD OF THE AND I KNOW FROM CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF THAT SAINT JOHNS RIVER WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT DOES THAT ALSO.
OKAY. SO THAT'S ONE MECHANISM. IT'S KIND OF HARD TO QUANTIFY THE LIKE HURRICANE RISKS OR FLOOD RISKS WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW THE VOLUMES OF WATER THAT'S GOING TO COME INTO STORM EVENT AND STUFF LIKE THAT. TYPICALLY THE CITY WILL WE HAVE A PREPAREDNESS PLAN THAT THE WHOLE, ALL THE DEPARTMENTS GO THROUGH TO PREP BEFORE STORM EVENTS COME LIKE THAT.
SO TYPICALLY WE DO FAIR PRETTY WELL IN MOST OF THEM.
BUT YOU KNOW, ACCIDENTS DO HAPPEN. MOST OF THEM ARE, ARE UNEXPECTED ONES.
STORM PIPE WILL FAIL OR SOMETHING WILL FALL. A TREE OR SOMETHING WILL BLOCK A PIPE, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT THAT YOU CAN'T REALLY EXPECT.
OKAY. AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO JUST PIGGYBACK OFF OF WHAT ERIC WAS SAYING.
WE CONSTANTLY PREACH ABOUT HURRICANE PREPAREDNESS, EVEN OUT OF SEASON.
AND I BELIEVE THE CITY ACTUALLY RECEIVES HURRICANE PREPAREDNESS PLANS FROM THE DEVELOPERS IN THE EVENT OF A, OF A STORM EVENT. SO THERE IS, THERE'S CONSTANT TALKS ABOUT IT.
IT'S JUST HARD TO KIND OF IT'S KIND OF HARD TO PREDICT THE FUTURE.
SO I UNDERSTAND NOTHING FURTHER. MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D JUST LIKE TO LET YOU.
I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG YOU'VE LIVED HERE, BUT WHEN I FIRST MOVED HERE, THE CITY USED TO HAVE A TRUCK DRIVE AROUND WITH BAGS OF SAND SO YOU COULD BLOCK THE, YOU KNOW, THE YOUR GARAGE AND YOUR DOOR OR WHATEVER YOU NEEDED TO TO KEEP WATER FROM GETTING INTO YOUR HOME.
AND IF YOU'RE LUCKY ENOUGH TO GET A BAG BEFORE IT'S ALL DONE.
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YOU KNOW, OR AS IT'S COMING, WE'LL LET YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS.OKAY, THANKS FOR SHARING THAT. I'VE SEEN THE SAME AT ANY TIME.
I DIDN'T KNOW THEY CAME FROM THAT. SO THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW.
I GOT THERE TOO LATE THE LAST TIME I HAD TO GO TO HOME DEPOT.
SO YOU PUT THAT REQUEST IN. DO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THAT? CITY STAFF, WITH REGARDS TO GETTING THE INFORMATION ABOUT THE FLOOD, PLAIN MANAGEMENT ORDINANCES AND THE PLANS. ARE WE GOOD TO GO? IS THAT FOR US TO PROVIDE YOU OR.
YES, PLEASE. THEN NO, YOU DON'T NEED A MOTION.
OKAY. EXCELLENT. DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER FIVE? SEEING NONE, WE WILL MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER ONE, WHICH WAS BROUGHT TO THE END OF NEW BUSINESS, WHICH IS THE SAB BYLAWS. AGAIN BE MINDFUL. WE ONLY HAVE 20 MINUTES REMAINING IN THE TONIGHT'S MEETING.
I ONLY NEED THREE. I THINK IF I CAN TALK FAST.
SO I NOTICED AN ERROR IN THE BYLAWS SECTION ONE.
WE DO IT WELL. OKAY. SO PLEASE DON'T BE TOO NITPICKY ON ME.
AND IT MIGHT BE THE LAWYER IN ME, BUT BE BE GRACIOUS WHEN I ASK FOR THIS.
SO I MOVE TO MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND ARTICLE ONE, SECTION ONE, AND FOR CITY STAFF TO GENERATE SAID NEW BYLAW BY ADDING THE WORD SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD, WHICH IS OUR CURRENT TITLE.
UNLESS, OF COURSE, YOU ALL OPPOSE. POINT OF INFORMATION.
SO PEOPLE HAVE TIME TO THINK ABOUT IT AND THEN IT'S VOTED ON.
SO ARE WE FOLLOWING ROBERT'S RULES OR PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURES INFORMAL? IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING OF THIS BOARD DID USE ROBERT'S RULE.
OKAY. SO TEN DAYS. SO WE'LL HAVE TO WAIT TILL NEXT MEETING, MA'AM.
NO. IF THEY DON'T SAY ANYTHING, THEN YOU'RE NOT.
THANK YOU. MISS. MISS BARBER, FOR BRINGING THAT.
THEY DO NOT STATE THAT I LOOKED AT A FEW TIMES, BUT I WILL.
I'VE LOOKED AT A LOT OF DOCUMENTS AT WORK, TOO.
SO I'LL HAVE TO REVIEW THEM AGAIN. SO I WILL TAKE.
TAKE NOTE OF THAT. THERE'S NO HURRY. WELL, I PROPOSE THAT WE DO USE ROBERT'S RULES BECAUSE IT'S THE MOST ORGANIZED METHOD, AND IT MAKES SURE THAT EVERYTHING GETS COVERED ON AN EQUAL BASIS.
BOARDS THAT I'VE BEEN ON WHERE THEY DON'T USE THEM.
IT'S, IT'S KIND OF LIKE PARLIAMENT IN GUYANA WHERE THEY BEAT EACH OTHER OVER THE HEAD WITH RUBBER STICKS WHEN THEY ARGUE. THERE NEEDS TO BE A GOOD FORM TO GETTING THINGS DONE.
AND AS A PARLIAMENTARIAN OF ROBERT'S RULES PARLIAMENTARIAN I, AND WE HAVE BEEN USING THAT PROCESS HERE. I THINK IT IF WE HAVE TO CHANGE THAT, I WAS TOLD THAT IT WAS FOR THIS BOARD, BUT IF IT'S NOT, IT SHOULD BE. I THINK WE ALREADY HAD OUR PUBLIC COMMENT ON IT.
YEAH. I ASK ONE SMALL QUESTION. SUPERSEDE ROBERT'S RULES.
ROBERT'S RULES ONLY COME INTO EFFECT. YES, I UNDERSTAND THAT.
CAN YOU COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE FOR THAT? WE HAVE CITY.
ROBERT'S RULES ARE USED ONLY WHEN THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S NOT COVERED IN YOUR BYLAWS.
YOUR BYLAWS SUPERSEDE ROBERT'S RULES. ROBERT'S RULES CAN SAY ONE THING.
YOUR BYLAWS CAN SAY SOMETHING DIFFERENT, AND YOUR BYLAWS SUPERSEDE WHAT'S IN ROBERT'S RULES.
THAT'S PARTIALLY TRUE. THEY'RE PROCEDURAL THINGS.
IF YOU USE ROBERT'S RULES, AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T OVERRIDE THE THE CITY CHARTERS, THEN WE CAN MAKE THAT CHANGE AND JUST DO IT A WAY THAT MAKES SENSE.
I THINK IN THE OH, YEAH, I SAW THAT
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I WAS LOOKING AT JUST NOW. THANK YOU. CITY STAFF JUST BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION ARTICLE SEVEN.CAN YOU PASS THIS TO THE CHAIR, PLEASE, AND TO VICE CHAIRMAN. SO, MR. CHAIR. ARTICLE SEVEN STATES, SECTION ONE. THESE BYLAWS MAY BE AMENDED, REPEALED OR MADE INOPERATIVE BY A MAJORITY VOTE OF THE BOARD AT AN OFFICIAL MEETING.
WRITTEN NOTICE OF SUCH PROPOSAL SHALL BE GIVEN TO THE BOARD AT LEAST ONE MONTH BEFORE THE MEETING, AT WHICH SUCH MATTER IS TO BE CONSIDERED. SO, IN ESSENCE, IF WE WERE TO APPLY THAT HERE. SO THE RULE IS SET AS SUCH HERE.
THE NOTICE HAVE BEEN MADE BECAUSE I SUBMITTED A REQUEST FOR THIS PRIOR TO THE MEETING.
I'M NOT SURE IF THE REQUEST CAME ONE MONTH PRIOR TO.
BUT IT STATES THEN THAT THESE THAT AMENDMENT COULD BE MADE OPERATED BY A MAJORITY VOTE OF THE BOARD.
SO IF THE WRITTEN NOTICE WAS MADE ONE MONTH PRIOR AND THE MAJORITY OF THE BOARD AGREES THAT WE AMEND THE SECTION ONE, ARTICLE ONE, SECTION ONE, TO ADD IN THE TITLE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD.
CITY STAFF COULD ADD IN THOSE WORDS TO THE FIRST SENTENCE, AND THEN WE'D BE GOOD TO GO.
BASED ON MY UNDERSTANDING OF ARTICLE. ARTICLE SEVEN, ARTICLE SEVEN, SECTION ONE.
YOU DID NOT STATE WHAT CHANGES YOU WANTED TO MAKE WHEN YOU SUBMITTED THE DISCUSSION.
SO WE STILL NEED A MONTH. YES. VICE CHAIRMAN.
I THINK IN THE INTEREST OF TIME SINCE WE ARE COMING UP ON 13 MINUTES LEFT, I THINK IT MAY BE BEST IF THERE MIGHT BE A MOTION TO TABLE AND BRING THIS BACK UP IN THE JULY MEETING AND GIVE US THAT 30 DAY NOTICE, PER THE BYLAWS.
MOTION TO MOVE THIS TOPIC ABOUT SAB BYLAWS TO THE NEXT SCHEDULED MEETING AND TO DISCUSS AT SAID MEETING, THE INSERTION OF THE WORD SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD TO ARTICLE ONE, SECTION ONE AFTER THE ARTICLE, THE THE. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE UNTIL THE OUR NEXT SCHEDULED MEETING.
AND BRING THIS CHANGE THE BYLAW. SECOND. SECOND.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE BYLAWS? SEEING NONE, WE WILL MOVE ON TO OTHER BUSINESS.
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ITEM NUMBER ONE, BOARD REPORTS. DO WE HAVE ANY BOARD MEMBERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A VERY BRIEF REPORT TONIGHT? I CAN MAKE A VERY BRIEF ONE. I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF RIDING AROUND WITH THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT.ACTUALLY BOB KILLEEN AND IT WAS VERY ENLIGHTENING AND ENCOURAGING THAT THE LEVEL OF DETAIL AND, AND CURRENT TRENDS IN CLEANING WATER THAT THEY ARE USING.
I WAS SURPRISED. THE ONLY THING I DIDN'T SEE WAS THAT THEY'RE NOT PREPARING FOR DROUGHT OR WHAT HAPPENS WHEN ROGUE VALLEY COMES IN AND USES UP, YOU KNOW, AN AVERAGE OF 100 MILLION GALLONS OF WATER A DAY SINCE ONE OF THE WELLS HAS A CAPACITY OF ABOUT 50 MILLION A DAY.
THE OTHER ONE HAS MORE, BUT WE ALSO HAVE A LOT MORE PEOPLE.
SO THERE ARE CONSIDERATIONS THERE. BUT THEY WERE THEY SHOWED ME EVERYTHING AND EVERYBODY.
THE PROFESSIONALISM IN THIS CITY TO ME IS IT'S OUTSTANDING.
AND I FOUND THE SAME THING WITH PUBLIC WORKS.
THEIR PASSION FOR THE WORK THAT THEY DO IS ADMIRABLE.
AND YOU KNOW, AS THIS WATER IS MY THING I HAVE BEEN ELECTED TO THE COUNTY. THE BREVARD COUNTY SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT THREE SUPERVISOR.
SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT, WHAT I FOCUS ON, AND I WAS VERY PLEASED TO SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE AT THE TOP OF OUR GAME. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU.
FIRST OFF WAS GOING TO BE NEXT MONTH. THERE IS GOING TO BE CELEBRATING MANGROVE DAY.
THE CITY OF PALM BAY IS GOING TO ACKNOWLEDGE A.
PROCLAMATION THAT IS SPONSORED BY COUNCILMAN KENNY JOHNSON FROM MRC RECOGNIZING MANGROVE DAY.
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AND MRC HAS EXPRESSED A DESIRE TO COME DO A PRESENTATION TO THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD REGARDING THE IMPORTANCE OF MANGROVES AND HOW THEY CAN IMPACT OR IMPACT OUR AREA. I BELIEVE BROOKE HAS BEEN COORDINATING OR POSSIBLY HAS BEEN COORDINATING WITH ERIC.I'M NOT SURE AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON.
BUT HOPEFULLY WE WILL HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM MRC REGARDING MANGROVES AT THE JULY MEETING.
AND THE SECOND THING THAT I WANTED TO BRING UP IN THAT REGARD ACTUALLY, WHAT WAS IT? I JUST LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT. SO WITH THAT SAID, I WILL CONCLUDE MY BOARD REPORT.
DO WE HAVE ANY UPCOMING MEETINGS OR EVENTS OF INTERESTS THAT ANY BOARD MEMBERS WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT? WELL, I HOPE WE'RE ALL GOING TO CELEBRATE JULY 4TH AT THE COLLEGE.
LOOKS LIKE A VERY INTERESTING PROGRAM. I'M BRINGING MY FAMILY WITH ME.
EXCELLENT. YES. THE CITY IS HAVING THEIR CELEBRATION.
I GUESS REAL QUICK. I HAVE TO ASK ERIC, WHEN DEREK THE NEXT BEATS AND EATS WAS THERE ONE IN JULY.
I BELIEVE THERE IS. I'M ACTUALLY TRYING TO FIND THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU. YEAH, I WANTED TO DO.
I DON'T HAVE IT ON MY SCHEDULE, SO I CANNOT STEP IN TO HELP WITH THAT.
I ALSO CREATED A SECOND ONE AND HANDED IT ALONG TO CITY STAFF.
I CAN, IF YOU WANT TO RESEARCH HOW MOSQUITO BUCKETS WORK YOURSELF.
OF COURSE, BY ALL MEANS, YOU'RE WELCOME TO DO SO.
YES, MR. CHAIR. SORRY. TWO QUICK THINGS. ONE, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO PUBLIC WORKS FOR ALLOWING ME TO GO ON THE STORMWATER TOUR WITH THEM. AND TWO, I JUST WANTED TO JUST REMIND CITY STAFF ABOUT OUR REQUEST ABOUT THE INTERN IN LIGHT OF THE APPROVAL FOR THE MONTHLY THEMES.
THAT THAT REQUEST IS MADE HERE UNDER SUNSHINE LAW.
EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. I TRIED TO BUY DEREK AS MUCH TIME AS HE COULD.
I KNOW THAT THERE'S ONE MONTH THAT DOES NOT HAVE A TWEET SPEEDS AND EATS, AND IT'S NOT ON MY CALENDAR FOR JULY, SO THAT MUST BE THE MONTH I WILL FOLLOW UP INDEFINITELY AND SEND THAT INFORMATION TO YOU.
EXCELLENT. JUST TO CONFIRM. THANK YOU. WITH THAT, I BELIEVE WE HAVE NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.
WE WILL ADJOURN THIS MEETING AT 7:53 P.M..
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.