Jul 02, 2026 Council Meetings - Regular

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IT IS NOW 1800 HOURS. IT IS NOW 1800 HOURS. I'M GOING TO CALL THIS REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING 2026-17

[CALL TO ORDER:]

SO, PASTOR, STEP FORWARD. AND PLEASE RISE.

LET US PRAY. THANK YOU FATHER. GRACIOUS HEAVENLY FATHER, FIRST AND FOREMOST, GOD, WE COME AND WE SAY, THANK YOU, LORD. WE THANK YOU FOR A BRAND NEW DAY FOR CLEARLY THIS IS THE DAY THAT YOU HAVE MADE, AND WE CHOOSE TO REJOICE AND BE GLAD IN IT. FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THE USE AND ACTIVITY OF OUR LIMBS.

WE THANK YOU FOR THE SOUND MIND THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US.

WE THANK YOU, GOD, THAT YOU ARE SOVEREIGN, THAT YOU CAUSE ALL THINGS TO WORK TOGETHER FOR THE GOOD OF THOSE WHO LOVE YOU.

TO THOSE THAT ARE CALLED ACCORDING TO YOUR PURPOSE, WE THANK YOU THAT YOU ARE GRACIOUS AND MERCIFUL GOD, THAT YOU HAVE SEPARATED US FROM OUR SIN AS FAR AS THE EAST IS FROM THE WEST.

THAT YOU HAVE SAID THAT WE CAN COME BEFORE YOUR THRONE WITH BOLDNESS, THAT WE MIGHT FIND GRACE TO HELP AND MERCY IN TIME OF NEED.

FATHER, WE THANK YOU THAT YOUR EAR IS INCLINED UNTO THE CRY OF YOUR PEOPLE.

WE THANK YOU FOR EVERY MORSEL OF MEAT, EVERY GRAIN OF BREAD, EVERY THREAD OF CLOTHING YOUR HANDS HAVE PROVIDED.

WE THANK YOU, LORD, FOR EVERY BLESSING THAT HAS OVERTAKEN US IN THE WAY.

AND WE THANK YOU, LORD, THAT YOUR PROMISES ARE STILL YES AND AMEN.

THAT YOU STILL HAVE GREAT THINGS IN STORE FOR US.

YOU SAID THAT THE LATTER WOULD BE GREATER THAN THE FORMER LORD GOD, THAT YOUR PLANS TOWARD US WITH THAT OF GOOD AND NOT OF EVIL, TO BRING UNTO US AN EXPECTED END. PLANS TO PROSPER US AND GIVE US HOPE AND GIVE US A FUTURE.

SO, FATHER, WE THANK YOU. FATHER, I LIFT UP THESE YOUR SERVANTS.

LORD GOD, YOU SAID THAT WE WERE TO PRAY FOR THOSE WHO WERE IN POSITIONS OF AUTHORITY FOR RULERS.

LORD GOD FOR GOVERNORS AND FATHER, WE JUST PRAY THAT YOU WOULD CONTINUE TO ORDER THEIR STEPS.

YOUR WORD DECLARES THAT WE DEVISE OUR PLANS IN OUR HEART.

BUT YOU'RE THE ONE WHO ORDERS OUR STEPS. SO, FATHER, WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD GIVE THEM WISDOM.

LORD, I'M REMINDED OF SOLOMON'S PRAYER THAT YOU WOULD GIVE THEM AN UNDERSTANDING HEART, THAT THEY WOULD DISCERN GOOD FROM BAD, GOOD FROM EVIL, BETTER FROM BEST, LORD GOD, AND THAT ULTIMATELY YOUR NAME WOULD RECEIVE ALL THE GLORY, ALL THE HONOR, ALL THE MAJESTY, AND ALL THE PRAISE.

I LIFT UP THIS BODY OF PEOPLE, LORD GOD, COMING TO HAVE THEIR MATTERS HEARD, COMING TO HAVE THEIR VOICES HEARD.

I PRAY GOD THAT YOU WOULD MAINTAIN EACH OF THEIR CALLS, THAT YOU WOULD BLESS THEM, THAT YOU WOULD ORDER THEIR STEPS, THAT YOU WOULD ENCOURAGE THEIR HEARTS, THAT YOU WOULD USE THEM, LORD GOD, TO MAKE YOUR NAME GREAT IN THE EARTH.

FATHER GOD TO STAND UPON THE ROOFTOPS, TO SHOUT OF YOUR GOODNESS AND SING OF YOUR PRAISES.

LORD GOD, I PRAY FOR ORDER. I PRAY FOR DECENCY.

I PRAY, FATHER GOD, IN THE NAME OF JESUS THAT YOU WOULD BIND THE HANDS OF SATAN, GOD, THAT HE WOULD HAVE NO QUARTER IN THIS ROOM, NO QUARTER IN THIS CITY, FATHER GOD, AND THAT YOUR NAME WOULD BE PRAISED.

FATHER GOD, I PRAY THAT YOU WOULD GIVE US ALL WISDOM. LORD GOD, GIVE US ALL PATIENCE.

GIVE US ALL A HUMBLE SPIRIT, FATHER GOD, THAT WE WOULD WALK PLEASING AND IN A WAY THAT PLEASES YOU.

FATHER GOD, WE JUST LAY THIS THIS PROCEEDING BEFORE YOU, GOD, AND WE JUST ASK THAT YOU WOULD HAVE YOUR WAY AS YOU TAUGHT THE DISCIPLES TO PRAY.

WE ASK GOD THAT YOUR KINGDOM WOULD COME, THAT YOUR WILL WOULD BE DONE, THAT EVERY LAW, EVERY DECREE, EVERY DECISION, EVERY APPOINTMENT, EVERY ELECTION, LORD GOD, WOULD BE TO YOUR HONOR AND GLORY AND FOR THE GOOD OF YOUR PEOPLE.

AND FATHER, WE'LL BE CAREFUL TO GIVE YOUR NAME ALL THE PRAISE.

WE JOIN WITH HEAVEN'S HOST IN DECLARING THAT THINE IS THE GREATNESS.

THINE IS THE MAJESTY. THINE IS THE GLORY, OH LORD.

FOR WORTHY IS THE LAMB TO RECEIVE HONOR AND GLORY AND RICHES AND POWER AND MAJESTY, DOMINION AND MIGHT.

FATHER, WE BLESS YOU, AND WE THANK YOU THAT YOU HAVE INCLINED YOUR EAR TO US AND HAVE HEARD OUR PRAYER.

FATHER, WE PRAY THIS PRAYER IN THE NAME THAT IS ABOVE EVERY NAME WE PRAY IN THE NAME THAT AT THE MENTION OF IT EVERY KNEE SHOULD BOW AND TONGUE CONFESS IN THE NAME OF YOUR BELOVED SON AND OUR BELOVED SAVIOR. WE PRAY IN JESUS NAME AND ALL OF GOD'S PEOPLE SAID, AMEN, AMEN AND AMEN.

THANK YOU. KOREA COMMUNITY REVITALIZATION ALLIANCE.

COME LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE.

THANK YOU. WE PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

HURRAH! THANK YOU. THAT WAS SO MOTIVATING TO HAVE EVERYONE SAY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE SIMULTANEOUSLY.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT I GOT MOTIVATED. HURRAH! MADAM JONES, WE'RE ON ROLL CALL. MAYOR MEDINA PRESIDENT.

DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE PRESIDENT COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

PRESIDENT. COUNCILMAN HAMMER. PRESIDENT. COUNCILMAN. LANGEVIN. PRESIDENT. MR. MORTON PRESENT. MISS SMITH. PRESENT.

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[ANNOUNCEMENTS:]

RETIREMENT PENSION BOARD, PENSION PLAN. BOARD OF TRUSTEES.

THIS REPRESENTS BOARD ELECTED POSITIONS. ONE VACANCY ON THE MELBOURNE TILLMAN WATER CONTROL DISTRICT BOARD.

ANYONE WISHING TO SERVE ON THESE BOARDS CAN APPLY ONLINE AT PALM BAY FL.GOV, OR CONTACT THE CLERK'S OFFICE AT 9523414.

OKAY, WE'RE NOW ON AGENDA REVISIONS. FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE KEEPING SCORE, MR.

[AGENDA REVISIONS:]

AND NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER ONE BEFORE PRESENTATIONS.

PUBLIC HEARING. ITEM NUMBER ONE.

AND NEW BUSINESS NUMBER ONE. YES, SIR. YES, SIR.

THAT'S THE MOTION. YES, SIR. OKAY, I NEED A SECOND.

SECOND. I GOT A MOTION AND NEW BUSINESS, NUMBER ONE.

HOLD ON. LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT HERE. OKAY.

BEFORE PRESENTATIONS. YES, SIR. I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN HAMMER.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? SEEING NONE, ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES FIVE ZERO. WE'RE NOW ON PUBLIC HEARING.

[PUBLIC HEARINGS:]

LOT 1547, PORT MALABAR, UNIT 32, ACCORDING TO THE PLAT THEREOF, AS RECORDED IN PLAT BOOK 17, PAGE 36, OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND DEFER TO MR. MORTON. THANK YOU, HONORABLE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, JUST ALSO, BY WAY OF INFORMATION, I KNOW WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO MAKE THIS PROCESS A LITTLE MORE STRAIGHTFORWARD AND STREAMLINED, IF POSSIBLE. WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON THAT. OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE NOT THERE YET. I WOULD ASK STAFF TO COME UP REAL BRIEFLY AND PRESENT THIS ITEM.

THANK YOU, MR. BRINKLEY. GOOD EVENING. KEVIN BRINKLEY, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.

THIS IS A STANDARD VACATE EASEMENT FOR A BUILD.

IT IS ALSO ALONG THE MELBOURNE TILLMAN WATER CONTROL DISTRICT.

THEY WANT TO PUT A POOL BEHIND THEIR HOME. BASICALLY, WE NEED TO VACATE A PORTION OF THE RIGHT OF WAY OR THE EASEMENT FOR A CANAL OF OURS THAT RUNS INTO IT. NO ISSUES WITH UTILITIES, NO ISSUES WITH FPNL, ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

SO THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL. SEEING NONE.

SEEING NONE. CARRY ON. IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? MR. JOSEPH OR TANISHA NORWOOD. YOU'RE THE APPLICANT, MA'AM.

COME ON UP. IT WAS SO MANY NUMBERS, I UNDERSTOOD, MA'AM.

JUST COME ON IN. COME ON IN. WOULD YOU LIKE TO PRESENT YOUR CASE, MA'AM? YES. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I'M TRISHA NORWOOD.

RECENTLY MOVED TO PALM BAY, AND I RETIRED FROM THE MILITARY AFTER SERVING FOR 22 YEARS.

AND I BUILT MY RETIREMENT HOME HERE IN PALM BAY.

AND SO FAR, SO GOOD. HOWEVER, IT'S GETTING A LITTLE HOT, AND I WOULDN'T MIND HAVING A POOL IN THE BACK.

LIKE HE STATED, IT DOESN'T AFFECT THE UTILITIES AND MY NEIGHBORS OR ANYTHING OF THAT MATTER.

SO JUST, YOU KNOW, REQUEST IF WE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

THANK YOU, MA'AM, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. MOREOVER, 22 YEARS.

YES, SIR. UNITED STATES ARMY OR NAVY? UNITED STATES NAVY.

YES. WELL. YOU SEE THE LOVE OF YOUR COMMUNITY RIGHT HERE.

HOW PATRIOTIC WE ARE. ESPECIALLY COMING CLOSE TO THE 4TH OF JULY.

OH, YES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT.

GENTLEMAN. NO, BUT I GOTTA TELL YOU, WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF OF YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE OUR GREAT NATION.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. YOU CAN CARRY ON, MA'AM.

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I'LL REPEAT THAT. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM.

SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION. SO MOVED.

SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN HAMER, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE.

ALL IN FAVOR? SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES FIVE ZERO. CONGRATULATIONS, MA'AM. YOU GOT ONE MORE READING? OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. WE'RE NOW ON NEW BUSINESS NUMBER ONE.

AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR SERVICE, MA'AM. HURRAH! YEAH, THAT'S THE MARINE CORPS. HURRAH! WE'RE NOW ON NEW BUSINESS, ITEM NUMBER ONE.

[NEW BUSINESS:]

THE CITY HAS EVALUATED A POTENTIAL PUBLIC ACQUISITION OF A PORTION OF APPROXIMATELY.

I GUESS IT WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY 135.19, PLUS OR MINUS ACRES OF THE FORMER MAJOR'S GOLF COURSE PROPERTY, ALSO REFERENCED IN THE APPRAISAL ATTACHED AS EDEN AT BAYSIDE LAKES.

I KNOW COUNCIL HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS OR DISCUSSING THIS FOR A WHILE, AND I'D LIKE TO TURN THIS OVER TO DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE.

THANK YOU, MR. MORTON. AND 2024. DURING DURING THE CAMPAIGN SEASON, YOU KNOW, MYSELF, COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN, COUNCILMAN HAMMER, YOU KNOW, WE MET WITH THE BAYSIDE COMMUNITY, AND WE HEARD THE CONCERNS ABOUT YOU KNOW, PROTECTING THE SANCTITY OF WHAT BAYSIDE LOOKS IS SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE. AND IT'S AN UNFORTUNATE THING ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TO THE GOLF COURSE.

AND YOU KNOW, THAT THAT HAPPENED BEFORE BEFORE A LOT OF US WERE EVEN STARTED ON COUNCIL OR EVEN ALL OF US SERVED ON COUNCIL.

THE POTENTIAL TO, TO BUY THE GOLF COURSE BACK IN LIKE 2018 FOR A MUCH SMALLER SUM WHILE THE GOLF COURSE IS STILL OPERATIONAL.

AND, YOU KNOW, MAYOR MEDINA AND COUNCILMAN JOHNSON OVER THE YEARS, HAVE, YOU KNOW, PERSONALLY DENIED PROJECTS THAT CAME FORTH FOR ANY, YOU KNOW, REZONING AND TO PROTECT THE SANCTITY OF THAT, YOU KNOW, ALL OF US IN OUR INDIVIDUAL CAPACITIES HAVE BEEN WORKING IN SOME WAY WITH WITH THE SELLER OR THE SELLER'S REPRESENTATIVE TO, TO FIND A SOLUTION TO, TO DEFINE A PATH FORWARD.

AND, YOU KNOW, THE PROPOSAL, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THE STRUCTURE OF THE DEAL IS STARTING TO STARTING TO TAKE SHAPE.

AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S TIMES IN THE LAST FEW YEARS WHERE, YOU KNOW, SHE'S SHE'S HAD OFFERS UPWARDS OVER $30 MILLION TO, TO BUY THAT GOLF COURSE FOR 700, 700 HOMES. AND SO, YOU KNOW, THE CITY IS PROPOSING TO PURCHASE APPROXIMATELY 135 ACRES OF THE 189 ACRES THAT THAT MAKES UP THE THE FORMER MAJOR MAJOR'S GOLF COURSE AND STRICTLY FOR PRESERVATION, CONSERVATION AND EXPAND THE THE INITIATIVE OF THE PALM BAY LAND TRUST THAT THIS COUNCIL APPROVED SEVERAL MONTHS AGO.

YOU KNOW, IDEALLY, YOU KNOW, PURCHASING THE ENTIRE PROPERTY, THE 189 ACRES WOULD BE THE BEST THING, BUT IT'S SIMPLY NOT A FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE AVENUE THAT THE CITY CAN TAKE FORWARD.

SO THE REMAINING ACREAGE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING WOULD STAY WITH THE CURRENT OWNER AND ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT THAT THEY SO DESIRE WOULD STILL HAVE TO COME BEFORE THIS PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD AND THE CITY COUNCIL FOR, FOR A SET APPROVALS.

BUT BASED ON THE LEGISLATIVE MEMORANDUM AND THE CURRENT VISION, I BELIEVE, OF THIS COUNCIL, THAT DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE PRIMARILY COMMERCIAL, WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF A SMALL UNIT PLAN DEVELOPMENT OF JUST TOWNHOMES, BUT STRICTLY NO APARTMENTS WHATSOEVER. BUT AGAIN, THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF SPECULATIVE BECAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S NO DEVELOPMENT PLANS IN PLACE. THERE'S NO, THAT LAND IS NOT UNDER CONTRACT.

THERE'S, THERE'S NOTHING THAT'S TAKEN FORTH WITH THAT REMAINING 50 ACRES.

SO MR. MORTON AND STAFF OBTAINED AN INDEPENDENT APPRAISAL, AND WE JUST RECEIVED THAT IN MAY OF THIS YEAR TO SUPPORT THE PURCHASE AND TO ENSURE THE CITY'S OFFERING FAIR MARKET VALUE AND AN OFFER THAT THE SELLER COULD BE WILLING TO ACCEPT.

YOU KNOW, AGAIN, LIKE WE'RE, WE HAVE TO SPEAK PUBLICLY ABOUT WHAT THE TERMS LOOK LIKE, WHAT THE MAXIMUM PURCHASE PRICE THAT WE FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH.

SO WE'RE AT A DISADVANTAGE, RIGHT? THE SUNSHINE LAW IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.

BUT IN SITUATIONS LIKE THIS, IT KIND OF HINDERS HOW THE, HOW YOUR REAL ESTATE TRANSACTIONS CAN BE, CAN BE NEGOTIATED. AND THE CITY WOULD ALSO USE A BROKER, THE BROKER OF RECORD TO, TO HANDLE COUNCIL'S DIRECTIVE AND HANDLE THE NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE SELLER IF THEY'RE IF THEY'RE OPEN TO DISCUSSIONS AND SOME HIGH LEVEL CONVERSATIONS HAVE ALREADY TAKEN PLACE.

OTHERWISE, THIS WOULDN'T HAVE EVEN MADE IT TO THE AGENDA TONIGHT FOR DISCUSSION.

SO SCOTT LOVERIDGE IS HERE TONIGHT WITH RELENTLESS REAL ESTATE.

AND HE'LL HE'LL COME UP SHORTLY FOR, FOR, FOR A SHORT PRESENTATION.

AND BUT THIS ACCUSATION, IF ACCEPTED BY THE SELLER, SERVES SEVERAL CRITICAL PUBLIC PURPOSES.

FIRST, IT PROVIDES THE LAND NEEDED FOR FUTURE DEEP WELL INJECTION FACILITIES TO MANAGE EXCESS RECLAIMED WATER.

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AND SO REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THE CITY IS SUCCESSFUL IN PURCHASING THE GOLF COURSE OR NOT, THE CITY IS STILL GOING TO HAVE TO BUY LAND SOMEWHERE NEARBY TO TO DEEP WELL, INJECT THE RECLAIMED WATER. SO TODAY WE PRODUCE MORE RECLAIMED WATER THAN WE CAN BENEFICIALLY USE.

AND WE NEED A SAFE AND ENVIRONMENTALLY RESPONSIBLE AND COST EFFECTIVE LONG TERM SOLUTION. THIS PROPERTY ALSO CREATES THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A REGIONAL STORMWATER PARK, WHICH WE KNOW THE MAJOR. ONE OF THE MAJOR FUNCTIONS OF THE GOLF COURSE WAS FOR STORMWATER RETENTION AND CLEANSING OF WATER BEFORE IT WENT OFF EITHER TO THE SAINT JOHN'S OR THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON. SO THIS HELPS ADDRESS LONG TERM DRAINAGE AND WATER MANAGEMENT NEEDS.

IT ALSO WILL ACT AS A FUTURE REGIONAL PARK. WHICH HIGH LEVEL VISIONS ARE MADE FOR THAT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY INPUT RECREATIONAL ADVISORY BOARD WOULD BE INVOLVED AND WHAT THE STAFF PLANNING AND STUDIES WOULD, WOULD KIND OF FIND A PATH FORWARD. SO THERE'S NOT IMMEDIATE PLANS TO, IF THE THE SALE CLOSES, GOES THROUGH AND CLOSES TO IMMEDIATELY TURN IT INTO A REGIONAL PARK.

THE IMMEDIATE PURPOSE IS TO STOP IT FROM EVER GOING INTO THE HANDS OF A LARGE SCALE DEVELOPER.

SO I UNDERSTAND NOT EVERYONE WILL AGREE WITH THIS DECISION, BUT I VIEW IT AS A PRACTICAL COMPROMISE THAT DELIVERS SIGNIFICANT LONG TERM BENEFITS.

IT PREVENTS THE POTENTIAL CONSTRUCTION OF OVER 600 HOMES AND AVOIDS AN ESTIMATED 1500 ADDITIONAL VEHICLE TRIPS ON OUR ROADWAYS.

PRESERVES OPEN SPACE AND ADDRESSES MULTIPLE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE A REGIONAL PARK FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT THAT THE CITY ACT, WHILE WE STILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO SHAPE OUR COMMUNITY.

OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, THE STATE HAS STEADILY REDUCED LOCAL CONTROL THROUGH LEGISLATION SUCH AS THE LIVE LOCAL ACT SENATE BILL 102.

ALSO, SENATE BILL 784 THAT SHIFTED THE FINAL PLAT APPROVALS FROM ELECTED COUNCIL BODIES TO A ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS.

AND MOST RECENTLY IN MIAMI-DADE, BROWARD AND PALM BEACH COUNTY SENATE BILL 1434 PASSED THE INFILL REDEVELOPMENT ACT.

THAT LEGISLATION CREATES PATHWAYS TO ACCELERATE DEVELOPMENT ON ENVIRONMENTALLY IMPACTED OR INACTIVE RECREATIONAL PROPERTIES.

SPECIFICALLY TARGETING GOLF COURSES THAT ARE NO LONGER OPEN.

THE REALITY IS THAT THESE STATE MANDATED LAWS REDUCE THE AUTHORITY OF BOARDS LIKE OURS, LOCAL ELECTED OFFICIALS, TO MAKE LAND USE DECISIONS THAT DIRECTLY AFFECT OUR RESIDENTS. IT'S ONLY A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE THAT STATE INFILL DEVELOPMENT ACT AFFECTS OUR COMMUNITY.

I MENTIONED BEFORE THAT THE CITY OFFICIALS BACK IN 2018 MISSED AN OPPORTUNITY.

WELL. THIS COUNCIL AND THIS ADMINISTRATION HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A ONCE IN A GENERATION INVESTMENT THAT PRESERVES LAND, PROTECTS OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND BENEFITS PALM BAY FOR DECADES TO COME. THE STRUCTURE OF THE DEAL FINANCING WOULD NOT.

WE WOULD NOT USE GENERAL FUND TAXES. THE LARGEST PORTION OF THE FUNDING WOULD CONSIST OF IMPACT FEE FUNDING PAID FOR BY DEVELOPERS.

IMPACT FEE BALANCES HAVE TO BE SPENT IN CERTAIN TIME PERIODS AND WITHIN CERTAIN ZIP CODES, OR THE CITY COULD LOSE THE MONEY PORTION OF THE PARK.

IMPACT FEES ARE APPROACHING EXPIRATION DUE TO POOR PLANNING BY PREVIOUS CITY MANAGEMENT, WHICH MEANS WE USE IT OR LOSE IT.

IF WE DO NOT INVEST THESE DOLLARS IN AN ELIGIBLE PARK AND RECREATION PROJECT IN THIS ZIP CODE, THOSE FUNDS MAY ULTIMATELY HAVE TO BE RETURNED INSTEAD OF BEING USED TO IMPROVE OUR COMMUNITY. THE REMAINING DEAL STRUCTURE WOULD BE FUNDED THROUGH UTILITY, ENTERPRISE FUNDS AND STORMWATER FEES.

THERE'S A POPULAR COUNTRY SONG BY DIRT BY JORDAN DAVIS FEATURING LUKE BRYAN.

IT HIGHLIGHTS SIMPLE WISDOM. YOU CAN'T BUY HAPPINESS, BUT YOU CAN BUY DIRT. I'M ASKING TONIGHT OF THE RESIDENTS AND COUNCIL CAN SEE A VISION AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE MOTION OF A DEAL TO STRUCTURE, TO ALLOW THE CITY REAL ESTATE BROKER TO NEGOTIATE A PATH FORWARD FOR THE PURCHASE OF THE 135 ACRES OF THE MAJOR'S GOLF COURSE. AND I'LL PASS TO MR. MORTON FOR ANYTHING I MAY HAVE MISSED, OR ANYTHING HE MAY HAVE WANTED TO ADD.

THANK YOU, MR. MORTON. THANK YOU. WE DO HAVE THE BROKER HERE, AND I'LL BE ON STANDBY FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

COUNCIL YOU HAVE OR ANY QUESTIONS I NEED TO ANSWER FROM THE TECHNICAL STANDPOINT OR OR POTENTIAL STEPS TO MOVE FORWARD.

ARE YOU CALLING THE BROKER UP, SIR? IF THAT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.

YES, IF WE'RE READY FOR THAT. PLEASE STEP FORWARD.

HOW ARE YOU DOING TONIGHT? GOOD. SO WORKING WITH MATT, WE'VE LOOKED AROUND AT SURROUNDING AREAS THAT HAVE SOLD.

CAN YOU GET CLOSER TO THE MIC? SO WORKING WITH YOUR NAME SCOTT LOVERIDGE, BROKER OF RELENTLESS REAL ESTATE.

THANK YOU. YES, SIR. SO WORKING WITH MATT WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AROUND AT RECENT GOLF COURSES THAT HAVE BEEN CLOSED THAT HAVE SOLD THE CLOSEST ONE BEING TURTLE CREEK GOLF COURSE, WHICH IS RIGHT IN ROCKLEDGE.

AND THE PRICES THAT WE'RE COMING UP WITH, WITH OFF OF THOSE BASED OR THOSE THAT HAVE SOLD ARE BASED ON OUR PRICES AT A PRETTY GOOD, AT A PRETTY HIGH LEVEL. SO THE, THE COUNCIL HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THE SELLER ALREADY ON DIFFERENT PRICING.

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SO WE WERE JUST TRYING TO COME UP WITH A HAPPY MEDIUM IN THE MIDDLE THAT CAN BE AGREEABLE BY ALL PARTIES.

ANY QUESTIONS COUNCIL. I WILL SAY THIS THAT IS CURRENTLY ZONED 5 TO 1 ACRE LOTS.

SO THAT PRICING SHOULD BE DEEMED ACCORDINGLY THAT, THAT, THAT APPRAISAL.

I WILL SAY THAT SO HOLD ON, I'VE GOT SOMEONE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK AND OH, IS THAT THE CITY MANAGER? SORRY, SORRY. JUST JUST TO CORRECT, JUST TO CORRECT FOR THE RECORD, BECAUSE IT SHOULD BE VERY CLEAR. AND I KNOW, I KNOW YOU DON'T KNOW ALL THE NUANCE THERE. SO NO OFFENSE.

COUNCIL HAS NOT BEEN WORKING WITH THE SELLER AS AS MR. STATED, STAFF HAS BEEN TALKING WITH THE SELLER TO GET AN OFFER PRODUCED.

I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR FOR THE RECORD, SO NO ONE ASKS, WELL, WHAT DOES COUNCILMAN DO? AND YOU HAVEN'T BEEN DOING ANYTHING ON THAT PIECE OF IT.

OKAY. FOR CLARITY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN? NONE. THANK YOU. ACTUALLY, MR. LOVERIDGE, DID YOU DID YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE A PRESENTATION OR A SLIDE SHOW OR ANYTHING THAT I DO, AND I CAN SEND IT TO EVERYBODY. I DON'T HAVE IT HERE TO COME UP, BUT I DO HAVE ALL THE RECENT SALES OF THE GOLF COURSES.

WHAT THE MEDIAN HOUSE PRICING IS AROUND THE GOLF COURSE.

WHAT THOSE HAVE RAISED UP TO AFTER THE SALES OF THE GOLF COURSES, AND FOR WHAT YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT DOING, IS GOING TO DO NOTHING BUT RAISE THE PRICING OF THOSE HOUSES THAT ARE SURROUNDING. SO, SO BASED ON YOUR ON YOUR DUE DILIGENCE AND YOUR YOUR PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE, AS IS THE WAY THE GOLF COURSE IS CURRENTLY ZONED AND BASED ON THE CITY'S INTENTIONAL USES OF CREATING A REGIONAL PARK, PRESERVING LAND AND YOU KNOW, DEEP WELL INJECTION FOR RECLAIMED WATER AND STORMWATER FACILITY, LIKE WHAT DO YOU, WHAT DO YOU WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE VALUATION RANGE IS? SO I THINK THAT BETWEEN WHERE THE APPRAISAL CAME IN AND WHAT THE ASKING PRICE IS ON THE PROPERTY.

I'D SAY WE'RE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT LOWER THAN RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE IS AN AVERAGE OF WHAT IT SHOULD GO FOR.

OKAY. AND DO YOU SEE IT COMMON IN REAL ESTATE TRANSACTIONS? BUYERS PAYING MORE FOR PROPERTY IF IT SERVES A HIGHER PURPOSE AND THERE'S MORE OF A WANT THAN A NEED.

THERE'S TWO WAYS TO LOOK AT IT, RIGHT? IS YOU GOT TO PAY MORE BECAUSE OF THE PREMIUM THAT YOU GUYS WANT FOR THE PROPERTY.

YOU KNOW WHAT IT CAN DO FOR THE COMMUNITY AND THEN VICE VERSA.

ON THE SELLER SIDE IS THE CITY IS ONE OF THE MAIN BUYERS, POTENTIAL BUYERS FOR IT.

SO THE SELLER HAS TO LOOK AT THAT AS BEING A POTENTIAL BARGAINING TOOL FOR YOUR SIDE, AS WELL AS THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE COMMUNITY AS A BARGAINING TOOL FOR HER SIDE. SO THAT'S WHY I THINK YOU SHOULD PROBABLY.

AND IN 2018, I BELIEVE THE CITY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY FOR $2 MILLION.

SO NOW WE'RE IN 2026. IF WE IF WE FAIL TO ACT AND WE IN THE NEW COUNCIL COMES IN IN 4 OR 5 YEARS FROM NOW, LIKE, I MEAN, THE PRICE TYPICALLY WILL JUST GO UP.

YEAH. I MEAN, THE, THE AVERAGE OF WHAT THESE GOLF COURSES AROUND HERE HAVE SOLD FOR ARE 79000 AN ACRE.

YEAH. AND WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT HIGH 40S, LOW 50S, THOUSAND AN ACRE.

YES. OKAY. THAT CONCLUDES MY QUESTIONS, MAYOR.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, I HAD SOMETHING.

OH. AS YOU WERE. COUNCILMAN HAMMEL. SO WITH THESE OTHER THESE OTHER GOLF COURSES THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE SPEAKING OF, ARE THESE GOLF COURSES THAT WERE BUILT BEFORE THE COMMUNITY OR GOLF COURSES THAT WERE BUILT AFTER THE COMMUNITY WAS IN.

BECAUSE I THINK ONE OF THE STRATEGIC THINGS THAT WE HAVE HERE IS THIS SERVES AS THE WATERSHED FOR THAT COMMUNITY.

SO THIS THIS IS A HUGE, HUGE DEAL TO WHERE SOMETHING HAPPENING IN THERE CAN AFFECT 4700 RESIDENTS.

AS YOU COULD SEE, PEOPLE CARE ABOUT IT, NOT EVEN DISCUSSING THE TRAFFIC WITH OTHER GOLF COURSES.

I'VE NEVER SEEN SOMETHING AS STRATEGIC AS OUR MELBOURNE TILLMAN RUNNING THROUGH IT.

YOU KNOW, EVEN WITH EVEN WITH WHAT WE JUST HAD IN TITUSVILLE, THEY DO NOT HAVE STRATEGIC FLOODPLAINS OR WATERSHEDS WITHIN THEM.

CORRECT. AND EVEN, I MEAN, I'M AN AVID GOLFER, EVEN WHEN I HIT MY GOLF BALL IN, IN THE IN THE CONSERVATION AREA, WE CAN'T EVEN GO IN AND GET IT. SO WE HAVE TO THINK THERE'S AREAS IN HERE THAT EVEN IF WE WANTED TO DO SOMETHING, THERE'S NOTHING THAT CAN BE DONE. THAT'S THAT'S HOW I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE EVEN HERE.

YEAH, I THINK IT'S I THINK THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS BARGAINING TOOLS FOR BOTH WAYS, RIGHT.

LIKE THE SELLER COULD SIT THERE AND SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED THIS CONSERVATION AREA.

SO IT MAKES IT MORE VALUABLE TO YOU GUYS BECAUSE YOU REALLY WANT THIS, YOU KNOW, WATER AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF.

AND THEN ON THE FLIP SIDE IS YOU CAN GO TO THE SELLER AND SAY, WELL, WITH ALL THIS CONVERSATION CONVERSATION AREA THAT'S THERE, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO DO.

PLUS, THE FACT THAT WE'RE GOING TO, IT'S GOING TO CREATE ROAD BLOCKAGE. IT'S GOING TO CREATE ALL THE, ALL THE ISSUES THAT COME WITH ALL THE NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT EVERYBODY'S NOT

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RIGHT. SO I THINK THERE'S IT'S PROS AND CONS ON BOTH SIDES, BUT ARE THESE OTHER GOLF COURSES WATERSHEDS FOR NO.

5000 RESIDENTS? NO. SO THAT'S, THAT'S THAT'S WHERE I THINK WE'RE A LITTLE BIT.

SO AGAIN, DIFFERENT HERE. AGAIN IT'S ZONED PROPERLY.

THEY WANT TO BUILD ON IT. IT'S ONE ACRE FIVE ACRE LOTS RIGHT.

BUT THAT'S FIVE ACRE LOTS. THAT'S ESTATE HOMES, WHICH IS I'M SURE THE, THE, THE PROPERTY OWNERS SURROUNDING IT WOULDN'T MIND ESTATE HOMES AROUND IT. RIGHT. BUT CARRY ON. THANK YOU. THAT CONCLUDES MY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

SO DO WE HAVE SPEAKER CARDS, DEPUTY MAYOR? YES, MAYOR.

OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS LYDIA BARBER. DON'T GO ANYWHERE, SIR.

SIT DOWN. SCOTT. YOU CAN HAVE A SEAT. YEAH.

HELLO, I'M LYDIA BARBER. I LIVE AT 1638 FOCH TERRACE, SOUTHEAST.

I LIVE LESS THAN TWO MILES FROM THE GOLF COURSE, WHAT USED TO BE THE GOLF COURSE.

AND I HAVE PLAYED THERE. BUT MY CONCERN AND FIRST I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU BECAUSE THERE ARE THINGS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE THAT HAVE REALLY BEEN HELPFUL IN EVALUATING THIS WHOLE SITUATION, INCLUDING HAVING A WEBSITE PRESENCE FOR EDEN SO THAT WE CAN LOOK AT IT AND SEE WHAT THE PLANS ARE AND HOW THEY'RE BEING DEALT WITH. AND ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT I HAVE IS IF THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN, THE TRAFFIC EVALUATION HAS TWO PROBLEMS WITH IT THAT I SEE.

ONE IS THAT IT DOESN'T CONSIDER THE GROWTH THAT IS HAPPENING WITHOUT A MAJOR ADDITION OF COMMUNITY.

SINCE I'VE LIVED HERE SINCE 2019, I LIVE OFF OF ELDERON ONE BLOCK.

I HAVE SEEN IN SEVEN YEARS OVER 100 HOMES BUILT ON PROPERTY THAT IS NOT PART OF A MAJOR COMMUNITY.

IT'S PART OF THE COMMUNITY THAT I MOVED INTO, AND THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE BEING CONSIDERED AS PART OF THE EVALUATION FOR TRAFFIC.

SECOND THING IS THAT IN THE CURRENT TRAFFIC EVALUATION THAT'S ON ON THE WEBSITE.

IT LOOKS AT THE ENTRANCE AND EXIT TO EDEN GOING THIS WAY.

WELL, ACROSS THE STREET IS STARBUCKS, RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.

TO GET TO STARBUCKS, YOU TURN LEFT. IF YOU'RE COMING FROM ELDRIN, YOU TURN LEFT THROUGH THE TIRE BUSINESS, GO ACROSS THEIR PARKING LOT, AROUND AND BEHIND.

SO IN THE MORNING, IF THERE ARE SOME 700 HOMES BUILT AND THERE'S NO LIGHT THERE, AND THESE PEOPLE ARE COMING OUT AND SOME OF THEM ARE GOING TO WANT TO GO ACROSS TO, THERE ARE PROBLEMS LIKE THAT THAT ARE NOT ADDRESSED AT ALL IN THE TRAFFIC PLAN.

THE ACROSS THE STREET IS A COMPLETE BLANK. SO I'M HOPING THAT THIS GOES FORWARD AS YOU HOPE AS WELL.

AND IF IT DOESN'T, I'M HOPING THAT THERE ARE MORE THINGS DONE WITH THE TRAFFIC.

THANK YOU MA'AM. THANK YOU. DOUG. HOOK.

DOUG HOOK, 1091. MARIPOSA. I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR BRINGING THIS TO THE CONSIDERATION FOR THE CITY COUNCIL.

THIS IS A PHENOMENAL PLAN FROM A SUSTAINABILITY ASPECT.

AS MANY KNOW, I DO SERVE ON THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

BUT ULTIMATELY WHAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT IS THE IMPACT THAT IT'S GOING TO HAVE ON THE LOCAL COMMUNITY.

I HAVE LIVED IN THE PORT MALABAR COUNTRY CLUB AREA FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS.

I HAVE SEEN WHAT REDEVELOPING A GOLF COURSE LOOKS LIKE AND IMPACTS THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE CHARACTER AND COMMUNITY AROUND IT.

AND I DO NOT THINK THAT ANYBODY IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY WANTS TO SEE THAT HAPPEN A SECOND TIME WITH THE MAJORS.

THERE WAS A LACK OF PLANNING. THERE WAS A LACK OF CONSIDERATION FOR ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS.

THERE WAS A LACK OF CONCERN FOR WATER MANAGEMENT WHEN IT CAME TO REDEVELOPING PORT MALABAR COUNTRY CLUB AND SEEING US TAKE A PROACTIVE STANCE AS A CITY TO POTENTIALLY ACQUIRE THAT LAND FOR THE PURPOSE OF SUSTAINABILITY, FOR THE PURPOSE OF CONSERVATION, AND TO PROTECT THE CHARACTER AND OF THE COMMUNITY SURROUNDING IT.

I THINK THAT IS A PHENOMENAL STANCE FOR YOU GUYS TO TAKE.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE THAT WE DO NOT WANT TO REVISIT A MISTAKE THAT HAS PREVIOUSLY BEEN MET WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY A SECOND

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GOOD EVENING. ROBERT. 1796, ONE BROOK DRIVE, SOUTHEAST.

THANK YOU, RED SHIRTS FOR SHOWING UP. THIS IS NOT GOING AWAY, GENTLEMEN.

BASICALLY, I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS. OKAY. MY ONLY CONCERN IS.

AND I'M GOING TO GO BACK AND FORTH A LITTLE BIT. THE EDEN AT BAYSIDE IS NOT GOING TO PASS MUSTER.

IT'S NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH ZONING. IT'S NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH HERE.

IF AND BY THE WAY, EVERYTHING I SAY, IT'S IN MY OPINION, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO PUT ONE HOUSE FOR EVERY FIVE ACRES, YOU PUT 40 HOUSES, $40 MILLION HOUSES ON THERE.

I HAVE NO PROBLEM. THE PROBLEM IS MOST OF THIS AFFECTS ALL OF OUR QUALITY OF LIFE.

IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO GET TO THE DENTIST ON TIME EVEN IF YOUR CROWN FALLS OUT OF YOUR MOUTH.

I CAN BEAR WITNESS TO THAT. OKAY. IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO GET A DOCTOR APPOINTMENT.

THE HIGH SCHOOL IS PACKED. NOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 107 TOWNHOMES COMING IN TIMES 2.7, 2.8 PEOPLE.

WE'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE.

SO MY QUESTION AGAIN IS 107 HOMES. I AM ALMOST PETRIFIED IN THE FACT THAT ONCE YOU GUYS MIGRATE OUT, OKAY, IF WE DON'T HAVE A CONTRACT THAT BLOCKS APARTMENTS OR STORAGE UNITS OR CAR WASHES IN THERE, YOU KNOW, ONCE THAT'S GONE, WE'RE IN TROUBLE AND WE'RE AT THE SAME WE'RE HERE AGAIN RALLYING.

I WANT TO DO THAT. SO I UNDERSTAND YOU MAKE GREAT POINT.

I'M LOOKING AT YOU GETTING THIS DONE NOW RATHER THAN DOWN THE ROAD.

SO I'M HOPING AND MAYBE YOU CAN HELP IN THIS CONVERSATION.

YOU CAN HELP ME UNDERSTAND IF WE HAVE $9.5 MILLION IN IMPACT FEES, WHY CAN'T WE TAKE IT OUT OF 3290 932908 32907? IF YOU'RE PUTTING SOMETHING IN THERE THAT ALL OF THOSE FOLKS WHO LIVE THERE HAVE THE ABILITY TO UTILIZE THAT I HAVEN'T HEARD, I HAVEN'T UNDERSTOOD JUST HOW IMPACT FEES AND WHY CAN'T WE GET THE LION'S SHARE OF IMPACT FEES TO MITIGATE THE COST OF THIS? SO, YOU KNOW, I HATE TO SAY THAT IF NOTHING HAPPENS, I MEAN, I'M HOPING TO CELA DOESN'T WANT TO WAIT ANOTHER YEAR BEFORE SHE COMES TO THE TABLE AGAIN AND STARTS ALL OF THIS ONCE AGAIN.

THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR BOTH OF US. MY UNDERSTANDING SHOULD PAY 2.1.

NOW WE'RE PAYING NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT MAYBE 10 MILLION.

HOW MUCH MONEY DO YOU HAVE TO HAVE? CURIOUS. I'M READING THE WORD.

EVERY ONE OF YOU, INCLUDING THE CITY MANAGER, ARE CHRISTIANS, ALL PEOPLE OF FAITH.

THE CELL IS A PERSON OF FAITH. WHEN I FIRST MET HER, WHEN I WAS LEAVING, WE SAT AND PRAYED, WHAT WOULD GOD DO? THE PRICE SHOULD BE FAIR, RIGHT? BUT LET'S. HOPING THAT. I'M HOPING THAT GOD'S HAND IS INVOLVED, THIS, INVOLVED IN THIS, AND THAT WE CAN COME TO AN AMICABLE AGREEMENT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT SPEAKER. LAURA HARRIS.

LAURA HARRIS 2027 MUIRFIELD WAY, PALM BAY, FLORIDA.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL. I'M REALLY I DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING REALLY PLANNED TO SAY EXCEPT FOR.

I'M REALLY GRATEFUL THAT YOU'RE ALL CONSIDERING THIS HIGHLY.

CONSIDERING THIS, THE GOLF COURSE IS LIKE LITERALLY RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET AND BUFFERS OUR WHOLE COMMUNITY.

THERE'S A NUMBER OF I WORK IN CONSERVATION AND OUTDOOR EDUCATION AND GREEN SPACES ARE INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT.

AND I'VE HEARD YOU ALL SAY THAT AND I KNOW YOU KNOW THAT.

BUT I AGREE WITH THE WATER CATCHMENT, THE I WONDER WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF IT WAS DEVELOPED AND WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO ALL THAT WATER.

WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THE ANIMALS THAT ARE LIVING THERE. I'M JUST AND WE JUST DEFINITELY NEED MORE RECREATIONAL AREAS FOR PEOPLE TO BE IN FOR MORE COMMUNITY TO HAPPEN.

SO I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO SEE THIS HAPPEN. AND I ADD MY VOICE TO EVERYONE ELSE WHO HAS SPOKEN.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER BILL BATTEN.

BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

I HAVE FIVE ITEMS TO ADDRESS. ITEM NUMBER ONE BAYSIDE LAKES, AS I KEEP BEING REMINDED, IS AN ELITE COMMUNITY TO THE POINT. THE YELLOW PAGES LISTS IT AS A SEPARATE IDENTITY FROM THE CITY OF PALM BAY,

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SO THERE. THAT ELITE. SO MAYBE THEY SHOULD COME TOGETHER AND PURCHASE THE MAJORS, NOT THE NONRESIDENTS OF BAYSIDE LAKES. ITEM NUMBER TWO, 2019. THE. THE FUNCTIONING GOLF COURSE WAS BOUGHT FOR $2.1 MILLION WITH A LAND ZONING OF GENERAL USE.

NOW, IN 2026, THE NONFUNCTIONING GOLF COURSE WITH THE SAME GENERAL USE ZONING IS.

SHE ESTIMATES THAT 10 MILLION. ITEM NUMBER 303.

THE LAND CAN STILL BE BUILT WITH THE GENERAL USE CAN BE BUILT ON.

WITH THE GENERAL USE ZONING DENSITY. ONE HOUSE PER FIVE ACRES AND A MINIMUM LOT SIZE OF FIVE ACRES MAKES BEAUTIFUL SITES. THE COST PER ACRE AVERAGING OUT $100,000 AN ACRE.

RIGHT. THAT WOULD MAKE EACH LOT A HALF $1 MILLION TAXABLE PROFIT WITHOUT EVEN A HOUSE ON IT.

RIGHT? AND YES, THERE IS A DEMAND FOR ESTATE HOMES.

YES, THERE IS IN FACT, A WELL-KNOWN RESIDENT OF PALM BAY COUNCILMAN, I MEAN.

OH. PASTOR OH, WHAT'S HIS NAME? OH, WELL, KEN DELGADO, I KNOW HIM AS KEN DELGADO, NOT HIS PASTOR, PASTOR KEN DELGADO. HE'S GOING TO LEAVE THE CITY AND BUY IN DEER RUN BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY RURAL RESIDENTIAL HOUSING IN PALM BAY. GREAT LOSS FOR HIM, ONLY BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SEE THE FUTURE THAT WE NEED.

ESTATE, HOMES. ITEM NUMBER FOUR. THIS TOPIC. ON THIS TOPIC, I CAN FIND MY.

I FIND MY CITY COUNCIL SOMEWHAT SOMEWHAT HYPOCRITICAL.

THAT'S OF MY COUNCIL. YOU SELL THE CITY LAND THAT COULD BE COULD BE USED FOR THE SAME FUNCTION AS THE GOLF COURSE LAND.

YOU SOLD THE VACANT LOTS AND THEN NOW YOU'RE GOING TO BUY LAND.

THE LAND SALE IS TO HELP FUND ROAD MAINTENANCE.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S WHY YOU WERE SELLING IT.

THEN YOU TURN AROUND AND WANT TO SPEND 7 TO $10 MILLION ON SOMEONE ELSE'S LAND.

I FIND THAT VERY HYPOCRITICAL. YOU SELL MY PARKS, MY RECREATION AREAS FROM THE CITY, AND THEN YOU GO BUY MORE FROM SOMEBODY ELSE.

RIGHT. FINAL STATEMENT. MY RECOMMENDATION IS JUST KEEP THE ZONING GENERAL USE AND NOT SPEND OUR MONEY TO BAIL OUT A FAILED BUSINESS. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. ALAN DAVIS.

SO THESE ARE IMPACT FEES, CORRECT THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING, MR. MORTON, MISS DAVIS COMES UP. WE'VE GOT A COMBINATION OF IMPACT FEES AND ENTERPRISE FUNDS THAT WOULD HAVE OTHERWISE HAD TO PURCHASE ADDITIONAL PROPERTIES FOR SOME OF THE SAME. THAT'S THE POTENTIAL. OKAY. THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.

CARRY ON. HI, MY NAME IS ANN DAVIS. I LIVE AT 123 RIDGEMONT CIRCLE AND BAYSIDE LAKES, THE SEPARATE AREA.

ANYWAYS, I'VE BEEN A CITIZEN OF PALM BAY FOR 40 YEARS, AND I'VE BEEN A CITIZEN IN THE BAYSIDE AREA FOR 20.

I'M GOING TO CHANGE SOME OF WHAT I WROTE BECAUSE I THINK MIKE JAFFE DID A REALLY GOOD JOB OF KIND OF EXPLAINING THINGS ON WHERE THE FUNDING WOULD COME THROUGH.

AND I SAW A LOT OF COLLABORATION IN HIS DISCUSSION.

SO I DO BELIEVE THAT EVERYONE WANTS THE SAME GOAL TO TURN THE ABANDONED GOLF COURSE FROM ITS MESS INTO SOMETHING THAT IMPROVES OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, MAINTAINS THE PROPERTY VALUES, AND DOESN'T INCLUDE HIGH DENSITY HOUSING.

I AGREE WITH YOUR APPROACH. I THINK THE CITIZENS ARE JUST CONCERNED ABOUT HOW IT WOULD LOOK.

AND I LIKE THE IDEA THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE COMMITTEES WHERE WE'RE INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD LIKE IT TO BE MORE LIKE A NATURAL PRESERVE LOOK AND NOT HAVE, YOU KNOW, GRAVEL ROADS AND INDUSTRY LOOKING BUILDINGS IN THERE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S, YOU KNOW, FULFILLING A NEED, YOU WOULD WANT IT TO STILL LOOK VERY NATURAL.

SO I GUESS I'M REQUESTING THAT THE CITY COMMITS TO LIKE DESIGN STANDARDS AND LONG TERM MAINTENANCE.

BECAUSE I WOULD HATE TO HAVE THIS DONE. PEOPLE LEAVE AND THEN IT'S NOT MAINTAINED, YOU KNOW? SO FIVE YEARS AFTER THE FACT, THEN YOU'VE GOT PROBLEMS. SO I'M JUST STATING THAT. SO I WOULD SAY WITH THOUGHTFUL DESIGN AND PROPER MAINTENANCE, I THINK THIS REALLY CAN BE A WIN WIN APPROACH.

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I THINK THE AMOUNT OF MONEY TO MAKE IT A GOLF COURSE IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

I THINK THE OWNER WILL CONTINUE TO PUSH THE ENVELOPE TO GET AS MANY HOUSES ON THERE AS POSSIBLE.

I DO BELIEVE THAT THE STATE IS DOING A TERRIBLE JOB BY TYING THE HANDS OF COMMUNITIES AND THEIR ABILITY TO MAKE DECISIONS ON BEHALF OF THEIR CONSTITUENTS. I THINK THAT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO GET WORSE.

AND SO I JUST THINK THAT THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT AND I'M FOR IT.

AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE ALL HAVE TO REALIZE WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET EVERYTHING WE WANT, BUT I THINK THIS IS A COMPROMISE THAT WILL HELP THE COMMUNITY.

AND IT ALSO DOES GIVE BACK TO PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIVE IN BAYSIDE BECAUSE WATER MAINTENANCE, RUNOFF, HEALTHY DRINKING WATER, FLOOD PLAINS AND ALL OF THOSE ARE IMPORTANT TO THE WHOLE COMMUNITY, NOT JUST THE BAYSIDE COMMUNITY. SO I WOULD LIKE TO CLOSE BY SAYING WHILE THE PARK MIGHT NOT BE THE NUMBER ONE, FIRST THING THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, I'D LOVE TO SEE THE CONTRACT OR WHAT, WHAT THE COMMUNITY STATE THAT THE TO ENSURE THAT THE PARK IS A KEY COMPONENT OF THE DESIGN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, RICHARD GRAVES.

RICHARD. GRAVES. RICHARD. RICHARD. SIR.

STEP RIGHT UP TO THE LECTERN, SIR. RICHARD GRAVES, 511 GARDENDALE CIRCLE, PALM BAY, FLORIDA.

OKAY. THREE YEARS AGO, I SENT A REPORT INTO THE ATTORNEY FOR PALM BAY A POTENTIAL FRAUD, NOT ONLY WITH THE GOLF COURSE, BUT WITH ANOTHER AREA. NEVER HEARD A WORD.

I SPOKE TO THE ASSISTANT MAYOR AT THE TIME. WE WERE SUPPOSED TO.

HE WAS SUPPOSED TO CALL ME TO FOLLOW UP ON IT.

NEVER DID I HAVE A COPY OF IT HERE. I'LL SUBMIT IT TO THE COUNCIL.

GIVES THE PHONE NUMBERS THAT PEOPLE HAVE GOTTEN UNDER THE COVID REGULATIONS.

IF YOU GOT ONE GRANT FOR COVID, THAT'S ALL YOU WERE ENTITLED TO.

THIS PERSON GOT TWO LOANS BECAUSE THEY PUT ONE DOWN FOR THE GOLF COURSES.

IS THIS ARE YOU SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE MAJOR'S GOLF COURSE? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. YEAH. GOLF COURSE.

ALL RIGHT. CARRY ON. OKAY. THEY GOT TWO LOANS.

YOU'RE ONLY ENTITLED TO ONE WHO GOT TWO LOANS.

THE PERSON THAT OWNS THE GOLF COURSE. OH, HE'S SPEAKING ON THE THE P P P THE FUNDING, WHICH IS PROSECUTED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.

WHAT THEY DID TO GET THE LOAN FOR THE GOLF COURSE, THE COVID LOAN, WHICH IS A GRANT.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY IT BACK. SHE GOT 400,000 AND IT WAS PUT DOWN AS MALE OWNED.

WELL, I THINK WE ALL KNOW IT'S NOT MALE OWNED. IT'S FEMALE OWNED.

SO THAT'S HOW THEY GOT AROUND GETTING THE SECOND LOAN VERSUS THE FIRST ONE.

THEY GOT A YEAR OR SO BEFORE THAT. SO I HAVE THAT HERE AND YOU CAN LOOK AT IT, BUT I GAVE IT TO YOUR ATTORNEY.

WELL WAIT TILL YOU WAIT TILL YOU GET BACK ON IT.

I'LL TAKE IT, SIR. BUT WAIT TILL YOU. IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE MORE COMMENTS, GO AHEAD AND FINISH AND DO IT ON THE MIC.

WELL THAT'S IT ON THIS. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THE TOWNHOUSES THAT WERE PROPOSED.

OKAY. OKAY. THE FIRST PROPOSAL THAT WAS BROUGHT FORTH HAD A DOG A DOG PARK ATTACHED TO THE DOWN OF THE TOWNHOUSE.

IT WAS RIGHT THERE ON THE CORNER. OKAY. THAT'S ILLEGAL.

SO I DON'T KNOW HOW YOUR PLANNING COMMITTEE IS SETTING THINGS, APPROVING THINGS.

IF THEY'RE UNDER, THEY'RE NOT COVERED BY FEDERAL LAW.

THAT'S A FEDERAL STANDARD. OKAY. I HAVE BUILT MAJOR PROJECTS AROUND THE WORLD.

I HAVE WORKED ON THE IBM HEADQUARTERS. PEPSI'S HEADQUARTERS.

I'VE DONE REFINERIES OVERSEAS AND POWER PLANTS.

OKAY. PEOPLE HAVE TO FOLLOW THE RULES. THEY DON'T FOLLOW THE RULES.

THERE'S GOING TO BE PROBLEMS. AND THAT'S WHAT I FOUND THERE.

NOW, THE LAST THING I WANTED TO DISCUSS IS WITH BOTH THE GOLF COURSE AND WITH THE TOWNHOUSES WERE GOING, I THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO KEEP THOSE AREAS CLEAR FROM OVERGROWTH.

I HAVEN'T SEEN IT. AND THE OTHER NIGHT, WELL, I GUESS AROUND TWO WEEKS AGO IN GOING DOWN BY THE WHERE THE TOWNHOUSES ARE, I SAW A VERMIN RUNNING ACROSS THE ROAD. IT'S THE FIRST ONE I'VE SEEN DOWN HERE, AND I COME FROM NEW YORK.

I USED TO SEE THEM IN THE SUBWAYS ALL THE TIME.

BUT DOWN HERE IT WAS THE FIRST ONE I SAW. SO I WANT TO KNOW, ARE THEY GOING TO CUT EVERYTHING DOWN AND BUILD THE THE,

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BECAUSE IF THE FRAUD IS TRUE AND YOU CAN CHECK IT OUT AND I GIVE IT TO YOUR ATTORNEY, HER NAME IS RIGHT HERE.

THANK YOU. THREE YEARS AGO. THANK YOU. LET ME ASK YOU SOMETHING BEFORE BECAUSE YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED.

BUT HAVE YOU REPORTED THIS FRAUD TO THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE REGARDING THE PGP? ONE OF THE PEOPLE ON THE LIST WAS THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.

I'VE DONE CONSULTING FOR THE FBI. MY QUESTION IS, DID YOU REPORT THE FRAUD? OKAY. NO, I DID NOT. I GAVE IT TO YOUR ATTORNEY TO DO THE FOLLOW UP.

THANK YOU. AND NOTHING WAS DONE. OKAY. THANK YOU, SIR.

OKAY. DID YOU WANT TO PASS THAT ON? DID YOU WANT TO PASS THAT? ALONG. NUMBERS AND EVERYTHING ARE RIGHT ON. OKAY.

I'M NOT. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM ATTORNEY.

DID YOU RECEIVE THIS DOCUMENT? AND IS THIS DID YOU FORWARD THIS TO THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE? JUST A QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW IF I RECEIVED THAT DOCUMENT.

I DO REMEMBER DURING THE TIME SOMEONE ELSE, I THINK IT WAS A FEW PEOPLE MAKING THE CLAIM AS FAR AS WHETHER SHE HAD MADE UP DEFRAUDED THE PROGRAM. THE CITY IS NOT OVER THE PROGRAM.

IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS WITHIN MY JURISDICTION.

BUT, YOU KNOW, IF THE COMMENTS WERE MADE, AND I BELIEVE ACTUALLY HER ATTORNEY WAS TAKING ACTION AGAINST CERTAIN PEOPLE MAKING THE COMMENTS, BUT IT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT THE CITY WAS INVOLVED IN. NO, THANK YOU, MA'AM.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. DOES THAT CONCLUDE ALL THE SPEAKER CARDS? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. SO COUNCIL, THIS IS WHERE WE GIVE DISCUSSION AND WE PROVIDE DIRECTION TO OUR CITY MANAGEMENT.

I'M GOING TO START WITH COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN AT THE FAR END.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MAYOR. YEAH. SO AS THE DEPUTY MAYOR SAID, YOU KNOW, WE AT LEAST THE THREE OF US, WE WENT AND TALKED TO THE BAYSIDE LAKES COMMUNITY WHEN WE CAMPAIGNED.

AND FOR THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF, I THINK WE HAVE DONE AS AN ENTIRE COUNCIL, AN AMAZING JOB OF PRETTY MUCH EVERY CAMPAIGN ITEM THAT WE HAD ALL SPOKEN ON.

WE'VE EITHER ACCOMPLISHED OR ARE IN THE PROCESS OF ACCOMPLISHING.

AND THIS IS PROBABLY THE LAST MAJOR ONE. SO I'M REALLY GLAD THAT IT GOT BROUGHT UP TODAY AND THAT WE'RE, WE'RE MOVING ON THIS YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOOK AT SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN BAYSIDE, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE ON HERE, WE REALLY RESPECT PROPERTY RIGHTS AND WE TRY TO RESPECT EVERYBODY'S PROPERTY RIGHTS. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IN MY OPINION, THE WAY THAT THIS WAS DONE AND THE WAY THAT OTHER GOLF COURSES HAVE BEEN DONE ACROSS THE STATE OF FLORIDA IS JUST YOU KNOW, REALLY NOT IN NECESSARILY THE BEST INTEREST OF THE RESIDENTS OR NECESSARILY EVEN, I WOULD SAY EITHER ETHICAL OR MORAL.

SO I'M LEANING MORE TOWARDS THE PROPERTY RIGHTS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE INSTEAD OF ONE PERSON, BUT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO WORK WITH EVERYBODY AND MAYBE HAVE A COMPROMISE, WHICH IS A GOOD THING.

SO I'M GOING TO BE IN FAVOR OF IT TONIGHT. BUT I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, IF WE DON'T GET A A GOOD PRICE ON THIS, AND I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE TO EVER BUILD ANYTHING ON ANY PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT USED TO BE GOLF COURSE.

PERSONALLY, I MAY BE OUTVOTED ON IT IF IT COMES UP, SO I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND SELL IT.

BUT IF WE CAN'T GET A DEAL AND WE CAN'T MANEUVER ON THIS, THEN I WOULD BE WILLING TO ENTERTAIN THE EMINENT DOMAIN WORD.

AS YOU WERE. COUNCILMAN HAMMEL. I'M GOING TO GO INTO SOMETHING FOR A SECOND.

NOW, THAT EMINENT DOMAIN WAS, WAS BROUGHT UP AS AS A, AS A FARMER, I WATCHED COWPENS THAT HAD BEEN IN MY FAMILY FOR OVER A HUNDRED YEARS, GETTING MOWED DOWN FOR A PARKWAY FOR EMINENT DOMAIN AND COWPENS. YEAH. COWPENS WHERE YOU PINNED CATTLE.

SO FOR US CITY FOLK AND. THE NEED FOR THAT ROAD WASN'T EVEN CLOSE TO THE NEED THAT THIS HAS ON OUR CITY, THE LIABILITY THAT THIS HAS ON OUR CITY.

SHOULD SOMETHING HAPPEN TO WHERE BAYSIDE CANNOT FLOW WATER INTO THAT GOLF COURSE.

WHEN I BROUGHT UP THE FACT THAT DO OTHER GOLF COURSES HAVE THIS SAME ISSUE? I THINK IT'S THE EXACT OPPOSITE THAT PEOPLE ARE THINKING WHEN YOU HAVE A GOLF COURSE THAT DOESN'T HAVE CONSERVATION, WHEN YOU HAVE A GOLF COURSE THAT DOESN'T HAVE SAINT JOHN'S MANAGEMENT RUNNING THROUGH IT, IT GIVES YOU 100 MORE HURDLES TO JUMP THROUGH THAN A GOLF COURSE THAT HAS NO FACTORS.

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I DON'T THINK IT'S LOGICAL. WE HAVE CONSERVATION AREAS.

WE HAVE MELBOURNE TILLMAN THAT CANNOT BE TOUCHED NO MATTER WHAT THEY WANT TO DO, THIS IS THIS IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT STRATEGY THAN ANY OTHER GOLF COURSE THAT I'VE SEEN.

AND WHEN I ASKED IF, YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT ANOTHER GOLF COURSE HAS SEEN OUR BROKER SAID THAT I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD TAKE VERY, VERY, VERY SERIOUSLY.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAN DEVASTATE 4700 PEOPLE MORE THAN IT ALREADY HAS.

SO I DON'T THINK WE'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION ON SHOULD, SHOULD WE DO THIS AND HOW MUCH IT CAN AFFECT PEOPLE? WE'RE SAYING WE'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY AFFECTING PEOPLE.

IT'S ALREADY AFFECTING THESE PEOPLE THAT BOUGHT THEIR HOME ON A GOLF COURSE AND NOW THERE'S NOTHING THERE.

YOU KNOW, ME, MYSELF, I THINK OF A GOLF COURSE IS BROUGHT INTO A COMMUNITY AND PEOPLE ARE BUYING IT AND PAYING TAXES ON SOMETHING FOR A GOLF COURSE.

IT SHOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO BE CHANGED EVER. AND WITH MYSELF, IF WE DO GO SUCCESSFUL FOR THIS, I DON'T EVER WANT TO SEE THIS GO PRIVATE AGAIN.

THIS NEEDS TO BE IN INSTILLED WITH. IF YOU CANNOT RUN IT, IT GOES TO A CONSERVATION.

THIS IS. I THINK WE SHOULD DO WHAT WHAT IS NECESSARY TO GET THIS PROPERTY, ESPECIALLY IF WE HAVE IMPACT FEES SITTING ON THE BOARD FOR OUR TPO.

THEY HAVE A PEDESTRIAN OUTLOOK FOR ALL OF BREVARD COUNTY.

THE WALKWAYS THROUGHOUT THAT GOLF COURSE ARE LISTED ON THAT PEDESTRIAN SPACE.

AND EVEN THOUGH THIS IS PRIVATE, THE ACTUAL PATHS FOR THE CART ARE LISTED AS WALKWAYS FOR THE TPO.

SO I WOULD, I WOULD BE INTERESTED IF WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH THEM AND SEE IF THEY WANT TO GET INVOLVED IN THIS AS WELL, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW PEDESTRIAN WALKWAYS AND WALKABLE AREAS ARE BIG WITH OUR TPO, AND THERE'S FUNDING FOR IT AS WELL.

SO ME, MYSELF, I AM I AM BEHIND OUR CITY MANAGER.

I THINK WHEN HE SAT AT THAT PODIUM, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US SAID THE MAJOR'S GOLF COURSE IS SOMETHING THAT IS A BIG DEAL FOR HIM.

AND I MEAN, HERE WE ARE WITH A RESULT. HE'S DOING EXACTLY WHAT WE ASKED HIM TO DO.

HE DID WHAT WE ASKED HIM TO DO HERE. ME GETTING ELECTED, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT KEPT ME UP AT NIGHT.

HAVING HAVING THE ABILITY TO TO CHANGE THE LIVES OF SO MANY PEOPLE.

AND I THINK IT'S, IT'S A LIABILITY, BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD TAKE MORE SERIOUSLY.

I MEAN, I THINK WE SHOULD. I'M AT A LOSS FOR WORDS, BUT I'M BEHIND OUR CITY MANAGER MOVING FORWARD.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN. COUNCILMAN.

THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. YES, MAYOR. I DO WANT TO SAY POINT OF ORDER.

I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO MAKE A MOTION BEFORE WE HAVE DISCUSSION.

WELL, WE'RE ALREADY HALFWAY IN. COULD YOU JUST MAKE SOME COMMENTS THERE? WELL, WELL, WELL, WHAT I'LL SAY IS WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE PROVIDING PARAMETERS IN REGARDS TO WHAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.

SO WHAT I'LL GO AHEAD AND GO WITH IT. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER.

CITY ATTORNEY AND THE CITY'S SELECTED REAL ESTATE AGENT BEING RELENTLESS TO NEGOTIATE A VACANT LAND CONTRACT OR A NON-BINDING LETTER OF INTENT FOR THE POTENTIAL ACQUISITION OF APPROXIMATELY ONE THREE, 5.19, PLUS OR MINUS ACRES OF THE FORMER MAJOR'S GOLF COURSE, EDEN AT BAYSIDE LAKES PROPERTY WITHIN COUNCIL ESTABLISHED PARAMETERS AT A PURCHASE PRICE NOT TO EXCEED $10 MILLION, SUBJECT TO ALL APPROPRIATE CONTINGENCIES, INCLUDING COMPLETION OF A TITLE, REPORT, SURVEY, ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW, EASEMENT REVIEW, GEOTECHNICAL DUE DILIGENCE AND ANY OTHER INVESTIGATIONS DEEMED NECESSARY.

I'LL SECOND IT, BUT LET ME JUST SAY SOMETHING.

CARRY ON WITH YOUR STATEMENT NOW. OKAY. SO NOW WE GOT A MOTION.

YES, SIR. YES, SIR. SORRY. I JUST WANT TO GO.

I WOULD HAVE WANTED DEPUTY MAYOR TO MAKE THAT MOTION, BUT.

CARRY ON. OKAY. IT'S ALREADY DONE. YES, SIR. I WAS JUST PROTOCOL TRYING TO FOLLOW IT THE CORRECT WAY.

WE WERE DISCUSSING. YES, SIR. BUT ANYWAYS COUNCIL SAID IT BEST AND NOTHING ELSE, BUT LET'S JUST GET THE BALL ROLLING.

WE'VE HEARD THE RESIDENTS OVER THE PAST EIGHT YEARS, WE'VE TRIED TO NEGOTIATE THIS A FEW TIMES IN REGARDS TO KEEPING THE GOLF COURSE AND TRYING

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I'VE, I'VE SAT WITH A LOT OF YOU AS WELL. BUT HERE WE ARE.

IF IT DOESN'T WORK OUT THIS WAY, THEN WE'LL TAKE OTHER PARAMETERS.

BUT LET'S MAKE SURE WE'RE VERY MINDFUL AS A COUNCIL ON WHAT WE DISCUSS HERE.

SO WE'RE NOT LOSING ANY NEGOTIATION. YEAH. WE'RE NOT LOSING ANY LEVERAGE.

SO THAT'S WHERE I'M AT. SO THAT'S WHY I JUST WANT TO KIND OF KEEP THE BALL ROLLING.

MR. MORTON'S BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB WITH THIS.

LET'S KEEP JUST EMPOWERING HIM AND LET'S GET IT DONE.

YEAH. SO I'M GLAD FOR THE COMMENTS BY COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN.

NO WAIVER OF SOVEREIGN IMMUNITY IS THE RECOMMENDED STRUCTURE THAT THAT'S BEFORE US AS WELL.

SO I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT AS WELL. I WILL SAY THIS IN 2018, AS YOU ELOQUENTLY MENTIONED, DEPUTY MAYOR, I SAT IN THE AUDIENCE LONG BEFORE THERE WERE ANY RED SHIRTS.

AND THIS CAME BEFORE COUNCIL AND BY A 3 TO 2 VOTE, I THOUGHT RED POPPY DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB OF TRYING TO BRING THIS FORWARD.

COME ON, I'M TAKING IT BACK. YES, SIR. HE DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB.

THIS GOLF COURSE COULD HAVE BEEN MAINTAINED. HE.

HE REALIZED THAT THIS COULD HAVE BEEN A PROFIT MAKER A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP WHERE THEY COULD HAVE HAD SOMEONE COME IN AND DO AN OUTSTANDING JOB AS WELL AND HANDLE A LOT OF THE, THE RECLAMATION WATER ISSUES.

SO HE DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB AND YET THE COUNCIL DIDN'T ACT ON IT.

IT WENT DOWN 3 TO 2. YOU SAID ON THAT COUNCIL.

NO, IT WAS RIGHT BEFORE YOU. IT WAS IT WAS RIGHT BEFORE YOU.

SO I YEAH, YEAH, I WASN'T, I WASN'T THERE, BUT YOU WERE IN 2018, YOU CAME IN NOVEMBER.

YOU CAME IN RIGHT BEFORE IT ACTUALLY OR RIGHT AFTER.

YEAH. SO IN THAT TIME I, I SAT RIGHT OVER THERE.

ACTUALLY, I WAS SITTING ON THAT SIDE. I DIDN'T REMEMBER IF YOU WERE ON THERE, SIR, BUT I DO REMEMBER THAT IT WAS A VERY CLOSE VOTE, AND I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO GO THROUGH AND IT FAILED AT THE LAST MINUTE FROM THAT POINT FORWARD.

WE'VE ONLY EXHIBITED A HORRIBLE THING BECAUSE THE, THE GOLF COURSE.

THE MAJOR'S GOLF COURSE WAS ACTUALLY THE TREASURE OR THE GEM IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

IT WAS RAISED AS A GOLF COMMUNITY. EVERYONE THAT PURCHASED THERE CAME BECAUSE OF THE GOLF COURSE.

AND TO SAY, TO SAY THAT THEY PURCHASED IT BECAUSE IT WAS A GOLF COURSE IS BECAUSE IT WAS AN ARNOLD PALMER DESIGNED GOLF COURSE.

YOU'LL NEVER SEE THAT AGAIN. ARNOLD PALMER IS NO LONGER WITH US.

SO THAT WAS A HUGE GEM FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

AND AND WE LOST IT. SO I SECONDED THE MOTION BECAUSE I AM IN FULL AGREEMENT THAT SOMETHING SHOULD BE DONE.

BUT I WANT TO CAUTION. BECAUSE THERE STILL IS AN OPPORTUNITY THAT THE, THE, THE PRICE IS GOING TO BE OVERWHELMING AND I WILL NOT ACCEPT THAT. AND THAT'S WHY I SAY THAT NO WAIVER OF SOVEREIGN IMMUNITY, BECAUSE THIS IS A GEM STILL IN OUR CITY AND IT'S A NECESSITY.

WITH THAT, I'M CALLING THE VOTE. IS THAT CLEAR DIRECTION FOR YOU, MR. MORTON? YES, SIR. CARRY ON. I HAVE A CONCUSSION, MAYOR.

WELL, LET ME JUST. MR. MORTON, WOULD THAT BE CLEAR WITH THE MOTION, OR DID YOU NEED ADDITIONAL ADDITIONS BEFORE COUNCILMAN OR MAYOR? YEAH, I HAVE THAT IN MY COMMENTS. OKAY. OKAY.

SO BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER, LIKE NEGOTIATIONS, LIKE WHOEVER'S FIRST TO ACT ALWAYS LOSES, RIGHT? AND I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY ON THE RECORD WHAT THE CITY ATTORNEY LIKE, ARE WE ABLE TO SET THE PARAMETERS OF THIS DEAL IN AN EXECUTIVE SESSION, OR DOES THAT HAVE TO BE DONE NOW? YOU DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE YOU CAN LEAVE IT AT WHAT YOU HAVE SAID.

NOW. YOU CAN'T DO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION BECAUSE WE DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE A LAWSUIT, BUT YOU DO NOT HAVE TO CONTINUE DISCUSSING MORE, I THINK, AND I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR MR. MORTON, BUT I THINK HE GETS THE IDEA OF WHAT YOU WANT.

BUT IF YOU SET SAY, HEY, MR. MORTON, YOU HAVE X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS AND YOU GET TOO FAR DETAILS, YOU CAN BE GUARANTEED THAT YOU WILL AT LEAST GET HER SAYING SHE WANTS THAT AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WELL.

HE'S ABLE TO GO BEFORE LESS, BUT I THINK IF YOU GIVE HIM BROAD PARAMETERS AND THIS IS THE MAX, TELL HIM YOU WANT TO NEGOTIATE. YOU'VE GIVEN THEM SOME FACTORS.

YOU HAVE SOME TRUST IN HIM. YOU'RE WILLING TO SPEAK SEPARATELY.

I THINK THAT MAY BE YOUR BEST BET STRATEGICALLY, BUT KNOW YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A CLOSED DOOR SESSION ON THIS.

OKAY. WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO ABOUT THE COST AND THE TIME ABOVE THE EMINENT DOMAIN IDEA THAT A RESIDENT HAD AND THE, THE AND HOW THE COURTS MAY OR MAY NOT DECIDE HOW HOW GUARANTEED WILL THAT THAT PROCESS IS.

THE EMINENT I DON'T KNOW. THERE IS NOT UNCERTAINTY IN THE EMINENT DOMAIN.

IF YOU'RE ASKED, AS FAR AS USING IT FOR A PARK AND USING IT FOR STORMWATER.

AS FAR AS HOW QUICKLY IT DEPENDS UPON. IF YOU WANTED TO DO A QUICK TAKE OR A SLOW TAKE.

TYPICALLY, WHEN YOU AREN'T CERTAIN WHAT THE VALUE IS AND THE VALUE, WHAT THE PRICE IS HAS A BIG FACTOR IN WHETHER YOU'RE GOING TO ACQUIRE IT.

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IF IT'S TOO MUCH, YOU SAY, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU STEP BACK.

ARE THERE GOING TO BE LITIGATION COSTS? OF COURSE YOU'D HAVE APPRAISAL COST. YOU HAVE YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR HER ATTORNEY ATTORNEY'S FEES AS WELL. YOU'LL HAVE, WE ALL HAVE OUR OWN ATTORNEY'S FEES.

YOU'LL HAVE SURVEYOR CALLS, YOU MAY HAVE DISCOVERY COSTS.

SO THERE ARE LITIGATION. BUT FOR THIS PURPOSE IT EMINENT DOMAIN IS A FEASIBLE STRATEGY.

BUT IT IS LIKELY THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND FAR MORE IN THE EMINENT DOMAIN PROCESS THAN YOU WOULD IF YOU'RE ABLE TO ACTUALLY NEGOTIATE.

A PRICE. THE OWNER IS AMENDABLE. NOBODY'S COME DOWN WITH CERTAIN TERMS. I'VE ACTUALLY TALKED TO HER ATTORNEY. SO THERE ARE OPEN TO MAKING A DEAL NOW WHERE THERE REALLY HASN'T BEEN AN OPENING BEFORE.

SO THIS MAY BE THE BEST TIME. BUT IF WE CAN CREATE AN AN AGREEMENT OURSELVES, IT'S GOING TO WE'LL HAVE MORE CONTROL OVER IT AND IT WILL BE LESS EXPENSIVE.

THANK YOU, MADAM ATTORNEY. AND CURRENTLY I BELIEVE THE PARCEL IS ACTUALLY MARKETED ON THE ON THE INTERNET NOW FOR ABOUT $1,414 MILLION.

SO, YOU KNOW, MY, MY IDEA FOR AN OFFER WAS, WAS NOT AS QUIET AS QUITE AS HIGH AS TEN I'VE YOU KNOW, THE BROKER HAD PREPARED SOME RANGES WHERE HE THOUGHT THE, THE TRUE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY EXISTED.

AND SO I'M CLOSER TO, TO $8.5 MILLION AND SOME OTHER THINGS I THINK WE GOT TO LIKE JUST NARROW DOWN IN THE, IN THE AGREEMENTS THAT. COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON. YOU MENTIONED VACANT LAND CONTRACT OR A NON-BINDING LETTER OF INTENT.

I THINK WE JUST MOVED FORWARD DIRECTLY WITH THE VACANT LAND CONTRACT BYPASSING THE THE NON-BINDING LETTER OF INTENT.

AND IT SHOWS A LITTLE BIT MORE SERIOUSNESS AND I THINK A FAIR ESCROW DEPOSIT MD AMOUNT WOULD BE $100,000.

IT WOULD BE A CASH PURCHASE, A DUE DILIGENCE PERIOD OF 120 DAYS CLOSING DAYS, 45 DAYS AFTER THE END OF DUE DILIGENCE.

WE HAVE TO DISCUSS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO PAY OUR BROKER TO REPRESENT US AND REMIND YOU HE'S GOING TO DO A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK, AND HE'LL ONLY GET PAID IF THE PROPERTY ACTUALLY CLOSES.

SO THE TIME HE'S GOT INVESTED INTO THIS NOW AND IN THE NEXT COMING COMING WEEKS OR POTENTIAL MONTHS HE'S DOING AT RISK.

SO WE NEED TO COME UP WITH A, WHAT A COMMISSION STRUCTURE WOULD LOOK LIKE.

AND THEN AS FAR AS THE TITLE COMPANY GOES, THAT'S TYPICALLY SELECTED BY THE SELLER.

I SAY, YOU KNOW, PICKED BY THE SELLER, BUT AGREED TO BY, BY THE CITY ATTORNEY WOULD BE WOULD BE A FAIR THING TO SAY.

MR. MARTIN, IS THERE ANYTHING MISSING? ELSE DO YOU THINK THAT WE NEED IN THE LANGUAGE FOR THE FOR THE CONTRACT? NO, I THINK WE'VE I THINK WE'VE COVERED ENOUGH TO.

MADAM. ATTORNEYS POINT TO WORK. THE OTHER SMALL DELIVERABLES INTO THE EXISTING TERMS. SO I WOULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT THE. I THINK THE CITY ATTORNEY WANTS TO WEIGH IN.

I HAVE A. BECAUSE I KNOW YOU'RE GETTING INTO.

SOME OF THE TERMS. TYPICALLY, WHEN WE DO THESE TYPE OF TRANSACTIONS, WE NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT AND WE.

HAVE WHATEVER THE TERMS ARE CONTINGENT UPON COUNCIL APPROVAL, IT IS YOUR INTENT TO CREATE PARAMETER WHERE.

THIS WOULD NOT COME BACK TO COUNCIL OTHER THAN THE PURCHASE PRICE.

SO IT WOULD BE CONTINGENT UPON COUNCIL APPROVAL.

YEAH. SO I THINK IF WE'RE HAVING A CONTRACT THAT'S GOING TO BE CONTINGENT UPON COUNCIL APPROVAL.

SOME OF THESE THINGS DON'T REALLY NEED TO BE COMPLETELY DISCUSSED NOW BECAUSE CERTAINLY ME AND THE CITY MANAGER, WE WILL WORK WITH THE TEAM AND NEGOTIATE THE BEST DEAL.

WE'LL LISTEN TO EVERYTHING YOU'RE SAYING, BUT IT'S NOT THAT COUNCIL HAS NO SAY.

COUNCIL WOULD THEN HAVE A SAY AT THE POINT WHERE IT COMES BACK, AND IT WON'T TIE HIS HAND AS MUCH IN THE NEGOTIATION AS IF YOU'RE.

BECAUSE IF YOU'RE SPELLING OUT ALL THE TERMS, IT WORKS.

IF YOU DON'T PLAN ON HAVING IT COME BACK. BUT IT TYPICALLY WORKS BETTER TO GIVE US SOME LATITUDE, KNOWING THAT WHATEVER IS AGREED TO IS NOT BINDING UNTIL IT COMES BACK BEFORE YOU UNDERSTAND.

AND THAT WAS DISCUSSED TOO. I, YOU KNOW, WHEN I SAID THE NO WAIVER FOR EMINENT DOMAIN, RIGHT.

THAT'S PART OF. YEAH. THERE'S SEVERAL OR SOVEREIGN IMMUNITY THAT THERE'S, THERE'S SEVERAL ITEMS ON THAT LIST.

AND I'M SURE THOSE ARE GOOD PARAMETERS FOR THE CITY MANAGER.

SO THAT'S WHERE YOU WOULD GO. YEAH. SO ONE LAST RECOMMENDATION I WOULD MAKE IS, IS TO REVISE THE.

THE MOTION TO INCLUDE A RANGE OF 8.5 MILLION TO 10 MILLION.

AND JUST RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT COUNCILMAN HAMMER AND COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN DO NOT PUBLICLY TAKE A STANCE ON WHAT THEY'RE WILLING TO PAY FOR THE PROPERTY.

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GIVE GIVE THE CITY MANAGER A RANGE. LET OUR LET OUR BROKER DO HIS JOB AND, AND BRING BACK AN OFFER THAT WE CAN ALL AGREE TO WITHIN THE RANGE OF EIGHT AND A HALF TO 10 MILLION WITHIN EIGHT AND A HALF. AND YOU DON'T WANT ANYONE TO MENTION I GOT YOU.

SO YOU WANT TO AMEND THAT? WELL, YOU GENTLEMEN BOTH MENTIONED THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO JUMP IN, SO I'M WILLING TO AMEND MY MOTION. MAYOR. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY.

SO 8.5 BEING THE LOWEST AND 10 MILLION BEING THE HIGHEST DEPUTY MAYOR.

THAT'S WHAT HE SAID. YEAH. AND THEN, I MEAN, I WOULD ALSO NOT TO RESTRICT THE THE VOICE OF THE VACANT LAND OF OUR COLLEAGUES, BUT IF IF THEY WANT TO OFFER LESS, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY SPEAK THAT UP NOW.

BUT IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITHIN THE RANGE. I JUST ASK THAT YOU RESERVE.

I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, BUT I'D ASK ALL FIVE AND NOT JUST US TWO.

WELL, THE OTHER TWO ALREADY MADE A MOTION TO 10 MILLION, SO I SAID EIGHT AND A HALF.

NO, I'M WITH YOU. BUT I DIDN'T SAY ANY NAME OR ANY NUMBER, SO.

SO I'M. I'M IN SUPPORT OF YOU, BUT I WANT ALL FIVE OF US TO BE ON THE SAME.

AND NOT JUST ME AND CHANDLER. ALL RIGHT. SO, MAYOR, WOULD YOU PULL YOUR SECOND.

SO I'M GOING TO PULL MY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO I'M I AM IN MY MOTION TO BE FOR THE PURCHASING TO BE IN THE RANGE OF 8.5 MILLION TO 10 MILLION AND TO EX OUT THE NONBINDING LETTER OF INTENT TO JUST MOVE FORWARD WITH THE VACANT LAND CONTRACT.

SECOND. DID YOU WANT A SECOND? NO. I'M OKAY. NO.

YEAH. THANK YOU. GENTLEMEN. YEAH. ALL RIGHT, ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. PASSES FIVE ZERO. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES FIVE ZERO.

OKAY. WE ARE NOW. OH. I'LL GIVE. I'LL GIVE. I'LL TAKE A TEN MINUTE RECESS TO, TO ALLOW FOLKS TO GO AHEAD AND EXIT.

THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO CALL OUR REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING BACK TO ORDER.

OKAY. TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF. NICE TO MEET YOU.

SO WE LEFT OFF. WE ARE NOW ON PRESENTATIONS NUMBER ONE.

[PRESENTATIONS:]

MR. GABRIEL BOWDEN HERE TO GIVE US AN UPDATE.

JUST WANT TO IN ADVANCE THANK HIM AND HIS TEAM FOR AN INCREDIBLE HERCULEAN LIFT OF BRINGING THE SR ONLINE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL, MR. MORTON.

I JUST WANT TO SAY A MAJOR MILESTONE HAS BEEN ACHIEVED.

WE ARE OFFICIALLY RECEIVING WASTEWATER FLOW NOW.

IT'S BEEN VERY EXCITING, VERY CHALLENGING. OVER THE NEXT FEW WEEKS AND MONTHS, WE'LL CONTINUE TO OPTIMIZE THE PLANT, MAKE SOME SYSTEM CHANGES, AND KIND OF SEE HOW WE'RE AT AND MAKING SURE THAT THE PLANT IS FULLY OPTIMIZED.

I WANT TO START THIS PRESENTATION THE SAME WAY THAT I'M GOING TO END IT, AND THAT IS WITH GRATITUDE TO THIS COUNCIL.

I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT, FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP, AND FOR COMING ALONG WITH THE UTILITIES TEAM TO GIVE US THIS OPPORTUNITY TO DELIVER THIS SIGNIFICANT PROJECT. I ALSO WANT TO THANK MR. MORTON, WHO HAS ON THE REGULAR, BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE AND ENCOURAGING ON YOUR BEHALF TO ME AND MY TEAM.

IT'S IT'S BEEN A JOY TO MAKE THIS, THIS HAPPEN WITH A GREAT PARTNERS THAT WE'VE HAD.

AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THEM A LITTLE BIT LATER. I JUST WANT TO GO OVER SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE GONE OVER BEFORE.

I WON'T SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON THESE SLIDES. YOU'VE SEEN THEM BEFORE.

A LITTLE BIT OF UPDATES. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE AS WE GO THROUGH IT.

BUT THE CONTRACT STATUS. LAST WE HEARD, WE HAD A MEETING WITH THE SURETY WHERE WE CAME IN PRINCIPLE ON AGREEMENT THAT HAS NOW BEEN FULLY EXECUTED AS OF JUNE 16TH. DEFICIENCIES IN REWORK. WE SHARED A LOT OF THOSE DETAILS IN JUST ABOUT EVERY DIFFERENT AREA OF THE PLANT.

AS WE'VE GONE THROUGH WET CHECKS AND SEATING.

WE DISCOVERED EVEN MORE. AND IT WAS QUITE CHALLENGING.

THIS IS THE PICTURE. THE THE DAY AFTER WE KICKED RJ SULLIVAN OFF OF THE SITE.

THIS IS AN OVERVIEW OF THE SITE ON WEDNESDAY.

QUITE A BIT OF WORK HAS BEEN DONE WELL, SO JUST KIND OF WANT TO SHARE SOME SOME KEY DATES ALONG THIS PROCESS.

APRIL 20TH, CATHCART WAS ON SITE WITH A SMALL ARMY TO BEGIN GETTING THE SITE READY TO GO.

JUNE 15TH WE STARTED I O CHECKS AND WET CHECKS.

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WE DID IT OVER A DAY AND A HALF. WITH THE HELP OF MEEK'S PLUMBING AND THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, THEY WERE QUITE GRACIOUS TO GIVE US 120,000 GALLONS OF SEED MATERIAL.

SO WE STARTED SEEDING ON THURSDAY THE 25TH. OVER THE WEEKEND WE ALLOWED THAT TO MATURE AND GET READY FOR RECEIVING FLOWS.

ON JUNE 29TH, WE BEGAN RECEIVING FLOWS FOR A VERY SHORT TIME, RAN ACROSS SOME ADDITIONAL ISSUES WE HAD TO ADDRESS, PULLED THE PLANT OFFLINE. THE GUYS WORKED LATE INTO THE EVENING AND ON JUNE 30TH WE BEGAN RECEIVING FLOWS AGAIN, 156,000 GALLONS. ON JUNE 30TH. AND YESTERDAY WE STARTED THE PLANT BACK UP AFTER SOME ISSUES WITH SOME LEVEL SENSORS. AND ON JULY 1ST WE RECEIVED 428,000 GALLONS.

WOW. YES. IT'S MOVING QUITE WELL. WE STILL HAVE SOME WORK TO DO AND SOME KEY AREAS. OUR SECOND BASIN IS NOT ONLINE.

WE'VE GOT SOME WORK TO DO ON THAT. AND THEN WE'LL BE SEEDING IT AND GETTING IT READY TO GO IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS SO THAT WE CAN RAMP UP TO THE ONE MGD THAT WE EXPECT THE PLANT TO BE ABLE TO DO. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE FINANCES, AND I'LL TELL YOU, WHEN WE GOT TO THE END OF MAY AND I GOT THE INVOICE FOR 1.9 MILLION, IT WAS LIKE, OH MY, THAT'S A LITTLE MORE THAN I WAS EXPECTING.

AND THAT FIRST WEEK OF JUNE WAS PRETTY QUIET AS WE WERE GETTING READY FOR STARTUP.

AND I'LL TELL YOU I THOUGHT MAYBE, MAYBE WE'RE GOING TO HIT THAT 2.5 THAT I KIND OF GUESSED AT BEST GUESS GIVEN WHAT WE KNEW, BUT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF WORK THAT WE'VE HAD TO DO. AND I, I DON'T HAVE JUNE'S INVOICE YET, BUT I'LL TELL YOU, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE CLOSE TO THE MAY INVOICE.

AND JUST, YOU KNOW, THE CONTRACT REMAINING THAT WE HAD WAS 832.

THE RETAINAGE WAS 828 1.6 MILLION TO GO TOWARDS THAT.

A LOT OF THESE NUMBERS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, THE DEFICIENCIES WILL BE GOING TO THE SURETY TO RECOVER THOSE JUNE.

WE'LL SEE WHAT'S REMAINING THERE. AND WE'LL ALSO NEED TO KIND OF LOOK THROUGH ALL OF THE INVOICES AND SAY, OKAY, DID WE APPROPRIATELY ATTRIBUTE THIS TO REMAINING WORKERS? SHOULD THIS BE DEFICIENCIES AND THE LIKE? AND IN AUGUST, WHEN WE COME BACK TO YOU WITH THE LEGISLATIVE MEMO, WE'LL HAVE MORE DETAILS ON ALL THE FINANCES AND ALL OF ALL OF THAT TYPE OF INFORMATION.

I ALSO WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS WE'VE HEARD FROM COUNCIL WE'VE HAD EXPERIENCES IN TRYING TO DELIVER PROJECTS AND WE'VE REALLY BEEN TRYING TO BUILD A STRONGER CAPITAL DELIVERY PROGRAM OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS.

WE'VE DONE A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS. AND THREE KEY THINGS I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT WE'VE DONE TO DELIVER THESE MAJOR CAPITAL PROJECTS MORE EFFICIENTLY AND BETTER FIRST IS EXPANDING OUR ENGINEERING PARTNERSHIPS. IT TOOK A LONG TIME.

IT WAS VERY HARD FOUGHT, BUT WE, WE'VE ADDED FREESE AND NICHOLS, A NATIONAL FIRM THAT I'VE DONE WORK WITH IN THE PAST, AND THEY DO A FANTASTIC JOB. CDM SMITH, ANOTHER LARGE FIRM THAT DOES GREAT WORK, AND KIMLEY-HORN ANOTHER GREAT FIRM, AND TETRA TECH, WHO'S DONE WORK FOR US BEFORE.

IN PRIOR SOLICITATIONS, WE HAD VERY FEW INTERESTED PARTIES, AND BEING OUR ENGINEERING FIRM, WE HAD A REPUTATION OF NOT BEING EASY TO WORK WITH.

AND SO WE'VE WORKED HARD TO CHANGE THAT. WE DID A LOT OF SOUNDING, A LOT OF REACHING OUT TO CONTACTS TO GET PEOPLE INTERESTED IN APPLYING.

AND I'M VERY HAPPY THAT WE HAVE THESE FOUR ENGINEERING PARTNERS TO GO ALONG WITH THE OTHER TWO THAT WE HAVE, WHICH WAS WADE TRIM AND ES, NOW HDR GREEN. IN ADDITION, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON SELECTING THE RIGHT DELIVERY METHOD FOR THE MOST RECENT PROJECT THAT WILL BE COMING TO YOU GUYS IN A FEW WEEKS IS THE NORTH ROW PRODUCTION WELLS.

RATHER THAN DOING A LOW BID, WE DID AN RFQ LOOKING FOR THE MOST QUALIFIED AND A GOOD PRICE, AND THAT WILL BE COMING TO YOU FOR AWARD IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS.

AND WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE CONTRACTOR THAT WE HAVE FOR THAT.

WE HAD THREE VERY GOOD CONTRACTORS BIDDING ON THAT.

AGAIN, THERE WAS A LOT OF EFFORT IN TRYING TO GET THEM.

THE PRIOR WELL THAT WE HAD DONE THAT WAS LOW BID.

WE DID NOT HAVE A LOT OF CONTRACTORS THAT WE WERE COMFORTABLE WITH.

THE CURRENT CONTRACTOR IS DOING A FINE JOB. BUT WE WEREN'T AS COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.

THE NORTH ROW TREATMENT PLANT, WE'RE USING THE CMAA PROJECT PROCESS, AND MORTON SMITH IS UNDER CONTRACT TO DO THAT FOR US,

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WRAF WILL ALSO BE MORTON SMITH. BEYOND ADDING TO OUR ENGINEERING FIRMS AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT PROCESS FOR DELIVERY.

WE'VE INCREASED OUR COLLABORATION BETWEEN UTILITIES, PROCUREMENT AND ENGINEERING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT CONTRACTS.

A LOT OF THE THINGS WE'VE LOOKED THROUGH IS LIKE THAT.

WE DIDN'T WRITE THAT CONTRACT CORRECTLY. SO HOW CAN WE MAKE THAT STRONGER? WE'RE INCORPORATING OUR OPERATIONS TEAM EARLIER IN THE PROCESS SO THAT THEY CAN GIVE THEIR FEEDBACK AND INSIGHT.

THEY'RE THE ONES THAT UNDERSTAND WHAT IS NEEDED AND WE'RE INCORPORATING THEIR FEEDBACK MUCH EARLIER.

FROM DESIGN TO COMMISSIONING. AND FINALLY WE'RE APPLYING LESSONS LEARNED.

WE'RE HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MONDAY MORNING AFTER THE SUPER BOWL.

WHAT COULD WE DO BETTER MOVING FORWARD? BOTTOM LINE IS WE'RE MOVING FROM LOW BID MINDSET TOWARDS SELECTING THE BEST QUALIFIED PARTNER AND DELIVERY METHOD FOR EACH PROJECT.

A LOT OF THIS IS OUT OF YOUR GUYS'S DIRECTION, AND WE APPRECIATE YOU WANTING US TO DO THE VERY BEST THAT WE CAN IN DELIVERING.

THESE ARE SOME STRONG AREAS THAT WE'RE IMPROVING ON.

SO I WANT TO END AGAIN WITH GRATITUDE AND SAY A SPECIAL THANK YOU TO OUR CATHCART CONSTRUCTION TEAM.

I BELIEVE JUSTIN IS HERE AND I BELIEVE SHELDON IS HERE.

SHELTON IS HERE. SHELTON SHELTON'S NOT HERE. JUSTIN'S IN THE BACK.

IF YOU PLEASE STAND. JUSTIN. COME ON. JUSTIN.

HIS TEAM'S BEEN AMAZING. AND I'LL TELL YOU WHEN YOU GUYS APPROVED US TO DO THIS SEVERAL, SEVERAL WEEKS AGO, I. WAS QUITE SCARED. IT'S A VERY THIS IS NOT NORMAL FOR A UTILITY TO TAKE OVER A PROJECT LIKE WE'VE DONE.

AND JUSTIN SAID IN THAT COUNCIL MEETING TO ME AND MATT DON'T WORRY, WE'LL DO YOU PROUD.

AND THEY HAVE DONE JUST THAT. SO I WANT TO THANK THE CATHCART TEAM FOR THAT.

WHATEVER RESOURCES WE'VE NEEDED, THEY'VE THEY'VE THROWN THEM AT IT.

THEY'VE REPRIORITIZED OTHER JOBS. THEY'VE WORKED WITH THEIR CONTRACTORS WHO HAVE REPRIORITIZED US.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY SOME OF THE PRICES ARE UP. WE'RE ASKING THEM TO PLACE US URGENTLY ABOVE OTHER PEOPLE, AND THAT COMES AT A PRICE. ONE THAT I THINK IS, IS WORTH THE SPEND.

I WANT TO ALSO THANK MORTON SMITH. THEY'RE NOT ON THE CONTRACT YET, BUT THEY HAVE HAD AN ASSET AT EVERY CRITICAL DECISION POINT THAT WE'VE HAD TO GIVE US GUIDANCE TO, TO PROVIDE INSIGHT AND EVEN COMING ON SITE DURING ALL OF OUR WET CHECKS AND START UP ACTIVITIES, HOWARD IS ONE OF THEIR LEADING PROJECT MANAGERS.

AND HE WAS HERE AND JUST PROVIDED GREAT INSIGHT.

I'M VERY GRATEFUL. HE MADE HE CALMED THE WATERS ON MANY OCCASIONS.

I WANT TO THANK THE PALM BAY STAFF. THEY, LIKE ME, HAVE BEEN AT THE POINT OF BREAKING OVER THE LAST 90 DAYS.

IT'S BEEN A VERY DIFFICULT TIME, BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT AT EVERY TIME THAT WE ASK THEM TO HELP US IN AN AREA, POSITIVE ATTITUDES, WILLING TO HELP, WHAT CAN WE DO? I WANT TO THANK DEREK ACKER. HIS GROUP JUST PITCHED IN LIKE YOU WOULD NOT BELIEVE AT ANY TIME.

DEREK, IF YOU'D STAND, YOU ARE STANDING. I DON'T KNOW IF JACOB IS HERE, BUT JACOB AND HIS GROUP.

THANK YOU. JACOB, WOULD YOU STAND UP, PLEASE? THESE GUYS AND THEIR TEAM ALWAYS VERY POSITIVE.

WHAT CAN WE DO NO MATTER WHAT? IT WAS VERY, VERY THANKFUL FOR THEM.

I ALSO WANT TO THANK TIM ROBERTS, OUR PROJECT MANAGER, ACTUALLY OUR ENGINEERING MANAGER, NOT PROJECT MANAGER, ENGINEERING MANAGER, TIM, IF YOU'D STAND. TIM HAS BEEN LIVING WITH THIS FOR SIX YEARS IN DIFFERENT CAPACITIES WITH DIFFERENT FRUSTRATIONS, AND HE'S ALWAYS REMAINED POSITIVE, ENCOURAGING AND ENGAGED WHERE OTHERS MIGHT GIVE UP AND SAY, IT'S JUST SO HARD.

TIM HAS NEVER DONE THAT. HE HAS DONE US VERY PROUD.

I ALSO WANT TO THANK OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTORS, TOMMY AND BOB, WHO ARE HERE, IF YOU GUYS WOULD STAND.

DURING THIS PROCESS, I HAVE MOVED MORE INTO A PROJECT MANAGER THAN I HAVE A DIRECTOR, AND THEY HAVE HELPED PICK UP IN OTHER AREAS AND I'M GRATEFUL FOR THAT.

SO THEY HAVE REALLY HELPED OUT QUITE A BIT AS WELL AS SYDNEY SUAREZ.

I'M NOT SURE IF SHE'S HERE. SHE'S GOING TO BE THE NEW PLANT MANAGER THERE. SHE'S NOT HERE.

A WONDERFUL PLANT MANAGER. GREAT ATTITUDE, VERY POSITIVE.

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SHE WAS OUR ELECTRICAL MAINTENANCE SUPERVISOR FOR A WHILE.

SINCE HER PLANT WASN'T READY. SHE RAN THE NORTH WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, ALWAYS WITH A PLEASANT AND POSITIVE ATTITUDE.

SO I WANT TO THANK THE STAFF THAT HAVE BEEN VERY HELPFUL IN THIS AREA.

AND AGAIN, FINALLY, I WANT TO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR GIVING US THE TRUST AND THE LATITUDE TO BE ABLE TO GET THIS PROJECT DONE.

IT'S WITH A GRATEFUL HEART THAT I STAND BEFORE YOU TODAY.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. WE'LL NOW GO TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.

[PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES:]

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. WOODY WOODRUM, 1394 AVENUE.

PROBABLY GOING TO STEP ON SOME TOES, BUT THAT'S WHAT I DO THIS WEEK.

I SEE HUGE SIGNS ALL OVER TOWN PROMOTING MR. HARVEY IN THE UPCOMING ELECTION.

NOW, I KNOW THIS IS A NONPARTISAN RACE, WHICH MEANS THAT THESE SIGNS WERE NOT PAID FOR BY ANY POLITICAL PARTY OR PAC GROUP STARTED RESOURCING AND FOUND OUT THAT MR. JAFFE SO FAR HAS AROUND $50,000 IN THE COFFERS FOR THIS ELECTION.

THESE MONIES ARE FROM HIS IN 10,000 WAS, I BELIEVE, DONATED FROM YOUR PERSONAL ACCOUNT.

HE'S FOLLOWED CLOSELY BY OUR SITTING MAYOR WHO'S SITTING ON $40,000 IN HIS COFFERS FOR THIS ELECTION.

MY CONCERN IS WHY WOULD ANYONE SPEND THAT KIND OF MONEY FOR A JOB THAT PAYS $12,000 A YEAR.

I THEN SOURCED A LEGITIMATE, DETAILED REPORT OF ALL CONTRIBUTIONS.

WHO DONATED AND HOW MUCH? I CONCLUDE THAT MR. JOPPY AND THE MAYOR RECEIVED THE MAJORITY OF THESE FUNDS FROM PEOPLE AND OR COMPANIES TIED TO DEVELOPERS OF REAL ESTATE IN SOME FORM.

THE OTHER CANDIDATES THAT ARE ON THIS BOARD YOU COULD COUNT THEIR CAMPAIGN FUNDS IN THE HUNDREDS.

NOW, THE QUESTION PAYS $12,000. IT HAS TO BE SAID MR. HOPPY WORKS FOR CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HOMES, A BUILDER.

BOTH THESE CANDIDATES ARE PRETTY MUCH MIRED DEEPLY IN CONFLICT OF INTEREST AND SHOULD ABSTAIN FROM ANY VOTES CONCERNING LAND USE IN PALM BAY FOR ZONING I'VE HELD NONPARTISAN ELECTION.

I'VE BEEN ELECTED TWICE. NONPARTISAN ELECTIONS IN SMALL MUNICIPALITIES AND RECEIVED ZERO COMPENSATIONS.

I SERVED THREE YEARS HERE ON THE CITIZENS PLANNING AND ZONING REVIEW BOARD FOR NO COMPENSATION.

MY. MY MOTIVATION WAS ALWAYS TO GIVE BACK TO MY MY TIME FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COMMUNITY AND NOT FOR MY PERSONAL GAIN.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. NEXT SPEAKER, I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY FOR THE RECORD, THAT WAS MY PREVIOUS CAMPAIGNS CONTRIBUTION, AND I DIDN'T REALIZE YOU WERE RUNNING FOR ELECTION RIGHT NOW, SIR, EITHER. SO GLAD YOU SHARED YOUR YOUR CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS FROM TWO YEARS AGO.

SO MOVING ON TO NEXT SPEAKER IS ROBERT STICE.

ROBERT STILES, 1796 LYNBROOK DRIVE, SOUTHEAST.

JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY ON THERE FOR YOUR HARD WORK AND WHAT YOU DO.

I KNOW IT'S NOT AN EASY DECISION. SO THANK YOU AGAIN.

AND THE INSURANCE. THANK YOU AS WELL. ON A SIDE NOTE MAYBE SOUND A LITTLE SILLY, BUT ABOUT TEN DAYS AGO, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT LONGER. I HAD A NON RESIDENT THAT WAS IN THE POND ABOUT 40 YARDS FROM BEHIND MY HOUSE.

I SENT THE VIDEO TO A COUPLE OF YOU KID WAS FISHING AND TOOK HIS BIKE THERE, LAID DOWN HIS BIKE WHEN HE TURNED AROUND TO GET SOMETHING OUT OF HIS TACKLE BOX AN ALLIGATOR WAS WAS BITING ON HIS BICYCLE SEAT.

SO I MADE A CALL TO THE DIVISION OF WILDLIFE AND A TRAPPER.

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THE GATOR COMES OUT OF THE POND. IT'S HISSING.

I DON'T KNOW, GATORS AND DINOSAURS TO ME, SOME SOME OF YOU FOLKS FROM FLORIDA, THEY'RE FRIENDS.

BUT THE THE TRAP GATORS STARTED GOING WILD WHEN HE WHEN HE PUT A NOOSE AROUND ITS NECK, HE HAD TO HIT IT WITH A BANG STICK 44 ON THERE AND HAD TO HARVEST THE EGGS, NOT HARVEST, BUT TAKE CARE OF THEM PROPERLY BECAUSE THEY HAD TO GO BACK TO THE DIVISION OF WILDLIFE.

MY QUESTION IS, IS THAT HOW COME THE PERSON WHO OWNS THE GOLF COURSE DOESN'T HAVE ANY? BEWARE OF ALLIGATOR SIGNS WHEN ALLIGATORS MORE AND MORE AND THIS IS MATING SEASON AND ARE ATTACKING PEOPLE.

WE'RE WE'RE GETTING PRETTY CLOSE TO THAT. THERE WAS SO IF YOU KNOW WHERE MY HOUSE IS IN BAYSIDE LAKES BASICALLY WHEN YOU COME OUT OF THAT GATE, IT'S ABOUT THE FOURTH HOUSE DOWN AND THE GENTLEMAN THERE HAD HIS GRANDKIDS PLAYING.

SO I HAD NO IDEA WHAT A, WHAT A GATOR NEST LOOKS LIKE NOW.

I DO, BUT EVEN IF IT'S UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY. AND I WENT AND TALKED TO DENNIS BLUNT ON THIS.

SHOULDN'T THERE BE A FENCE AROUND THE AREA AT LEAST SOME SIGNS WITH THE GATORS? JUST JUST A FEW YARDS FROM PEOPLE'S PROPERTY.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT FROM A SAFETY PERSPECTIVE? ALSO, AGAIN I KNOW WE KIND OF SQUASHED WITH REGARD TO THE E-BIKES AND WHAT HAVE YOU.

SO HOPEFULLY YOU KEEP YOUR EYE ON THAT. AND LIKE I SAID, EVERYBODY'S GOT THEM.

WE HAVE A RIGHT TO PRIVATE PROPERTY AS WELL. AND WHEN YOU SEE THEM RIDING NOT ONLY THROUGH THE FORM OF MAJORS, BUT WHEN THEY'RE RIDING ON PEOPLE'S PROPERTY AND ARE TRYING TO REDO THAT PROPERTY FROM ALL THE, THE DAMAGE WE HAD FROM THE FREEZE WE GOT TO PUT THAT ON THE FRONT BURNER OR AT LEAST TOWARDS THE FRONT BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET HURT.

SO THINKING ABOUT THAT. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER.

JUAN DELGADO. JUAN DELGADO.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND ALL THE MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY.

MY NAME IS CHRISTINE STEVENS AND THIS IS MY HUSBAND, JUAN DELGADO.

WE RESIDE AT 1561 WILLARD ROAD IN NORTHWEST PALM BAY.

I'M A MARINE VETERAN AND TOGETHER WE ARE LONGTIME RESIDENTS OF THE CITY.

OVER THE YEARS, WE HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF SERVING OUR COMMUNITY THROUGH VOLUNTEER WORK IN OUR LOCAL SCHOOLS, YOUTH SPORTS, AND OTHER COMMUNITY ACTIVITIES.

WE CARE DEEPLY ABOUT THIS CITY AND THE PEOPLE WHO CALL IT HOME.

TONIGHT, WE'D LIKE TO FORMALLY PLACE ON THE PUBLIC RECORD OUR INTENT TO BEGIN EXPLORING AND PURSUING THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF OUR 26 ACRE PARCEL, LOCATED AT 1250 GRANER ROAD DRIVE, SORRY, IN SOUTHWEST PALM BAY.

AS FORTIFIED SERENITY, A PROPOSED 55 AND UP DISABLED VETERAN HOUSING COMMUNITY.

THIS PROJECT IS BEING ENVISIONED AS MORE THAN JUST HOUSING.

OUR GOAL IS TO CREATE A SAFE, DIGNIFIED AND SUPPORTIVE COMMUNITY WHERE DISABLED VETERANS CAN LIVE INDEPENDENTLY WHILE BENEFITING FROM A SENSE OF BELONGING, SECURITY AND ACCESS TO RESOURCES THAT IMPROVE THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE.

AS WE BEGIN THIS JOURNEY, WE'RE COMMITTED TO WORKING COLLABORATIVELY WITH COLLABORATIVELY WITH THE CITY STAFF, ELECTED OFFICIALS, COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS AND RESIDENTS TO ENSURE THAT ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT ALIGNS WITH THE CITY'S VISIONS, REGULATIONS, AND LONG TERM PLANNING OBJECTIVES.

WE RECOGNIZE THAT THOUGHTFUL GROWTH DOES REQUIRE TRANSPARENCY, COMMUNICATION AND PARTNERSHIP, AND WE INTEND TO BE ACTIVE PARTICIPANTS THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.

AND TONIGHT, WE'RE NOT SEEKING ANY APPROVALS OR ACTIONS.

RATHER, WE SIMPLY WANT TO PUBLICLY EXPRESS OUR COMMITMENT TO MOVING FORWARD WITH THE PLANNING AND EVALUATION PROCESS, AND TO INVITE THE COMMUNITY TO FOLLOW OUR PROGRESS AND BECOME INVOLVED.

WE APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT AND ENCOURAGEMENT, ALL THE PRAYERS OF OUR COMMUNITY AS WE UNDERTAKE WHAT WE KNOW WILL BE A LONG BUT WORTHWHILE JOURNEY. FOR THOSE INTERESTED IN LEARNING MORE, WE'VE ESTABLISHED A WEBSITE WHERE CITIZENS CAN SIGN UP TO RECEIVE PROJECT UPDATES, FOLLOW IMPORTANT MILESTONES, LEARN ABOUT VOLUNTEER AND JOB OPPORTUNITIES, FUNDRAISING EFFORTS, DONATION NEEDS, CORPORATE SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES, FUTURE WORK BID OPPORTUNITIES AS THEY ARISE, AND OF COURSE, RESIDENT AND INTEREST AFTER PROJECT COMPLETION.

WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO INVITE THE COMMUNITY TO VISIT THE FORTIFIED SERENITY BOOTH AT THE CITY'S INDEPENDENCE DAY CELEBRATION ON SATURDAY, JULY 4TH. WE WILL HAVE INFORMATION AVAILABLE ABOUT MISSION AND OUR VISION, QR CODES LINKING DIRECTLY TO OUR WEBSITE, AND OPPORTUNITY FOR RESIDENTS TO SIGN UP AND STAY INFORMED.

WE WILL ALSO HAVE A LIMITED NUMBER OF FORTIFIED SERENITY SUPPORTER T-SHIRTS AVAILABLE FOR PURCHASE, WITH PROCEEDS HELPING SUPPORT OUR ONGOING EFFORTS.

OUR VETERANS HAVE SACRIFICED GREATLY IN SERVICE TO OUR COUNTRY, AND WE BELIEVE THAT COMMUNITIES SUCH AS OURS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HONOR THAT SERVICE BY

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WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THE GREATER CITY OF. WITH THE GREATEST CITY OF THE PLANET AND ENGAGING WITH THE PUBLIC AS OUR PLANS EVOLVE.

THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO PLACE OUR INTENTIONS TO OUR PUBLIC RECORD, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT OF THOSE WHO HAVE SERVED OUR NATION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HAVE YOU DISCUSSED THIS WITH STAFF ALREADY AT ANY POINT? NOT YET. WE JUST WANTED TO JUST LET THE COMMUNITY KNOW OUR INTENTIONS.

OKAY. WELL, THERE'S A THERE'S A YOUNG LADY THAT I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO.

SHE JUST RAISED HER HAND. I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO.

POINT OF CONTACT. SO JUST SO THAT I'M TRACKING, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A 55 YEAR, 55 AND OVER VETERAN DISABLED VETERAN COMMUNITY, MEANING THE SERVICE CONNECTED, DISABLED SERVICE CONNECTED AND CERTIFIED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF VETERAN AFFAIRS.

CORRECT. OKAY. THAT'S INTERESTING. SO WE'RE TALKING 26 ACRES, YOU SAID.

RIGHT. DID I TRACK THAT CORRECTLY? AND ALSO HOW MANY UNITS FOR THOSE VETERANS THAT WE HAVE YET TO COPY THAT.

ALL RIGHT, I THINK I COUNCIL. THANK YOU MA'AM.

I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS IN CONSIDERING THE VETERAN COMMUNITY.

I KNOW YOU ARE A MARINE CORPS VETERAN AS WELL.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON HAD WANTED TO. YES. IT'S GREAT TO SEE YOU ALL.

SO JUAN AND HIS WIFE HAVE BEEN GOOD FRIENDS OF MY WIFE AND I FOR SOME TIME NOW, SO I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE ALL OF COUNCIL.

IF THEY CALL YOU OR REACH OUT TO YOU, DEFINITELY LIKE TAKE TIME TO SIT DOWN WITH THEM.

ANYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY SIT DOWN WITH THIS COUPLE. THEY HAVE A HEART TO SERVE AND THEY'VE HAD A HEART TO SERVE, AND THEY'VE HAD THIS PROPERTY FOR QUITE SOME TIME AND HAVE BEEN SEARCHING, ESTABLISHED A NONPROFIT AND EVERYTHING TO SEARCH THE WAYS OF HOW THEY CAN BETTER THEIR COMMUNITY AND SERVE THE COMMUNITY. SO WHILE WE'RE NOT VOTING ON IT RIGHT NOW, I AM VERY OPTIMISTIC OF WHAT YOU'RE BRINGING BECAUSE I KNOW YOUR HEART.

AND MISS JEFFERSON, MR. MORTON, AND OUR STAFF WILL TAKE CARE OF YOU.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT.

WE APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

JUAN. OLIVIA. HARRIS. HARRISON. OLIVIA. HARRISON.

YES. YES. THAT'S FINE. HI. MY NAME IS OLIVIA HARRISON. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OLIVIA. GET THE MIC CLOSER TO YOU, SIS.

YEAH. GOOD JOB. THANK YOU. HI, MY NAME IS OLIVIA HARRISON.

I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF KOREA DEVELOPING LEADERS PROGRAM TO THANK COUNCILMAN, KENNY JOHNSON AND MIKE HAMMER FOR COMING TO OUR CLASS AND TEACHING US ABOUT GOVERNMENT.

WE ARE HERE TO PRESENT YOU BOTH WITH CERTIFICATES OF APPRECIATION.

THANK YOU. OH MY GOD. CERTIFICATE OF APPRECIATION PRESENTED TO COUNCILMAN KENNY JOHNSON IN GRATEFUL APPRECIATION FOR YOUR DEDICATION TO CIVIC EDUCATION AND PUBLIC SERVICE.

THANK YOU FOR VISITING KOREA'S DEVELOPING LEADERS PROGRAM AND SHOWING YOUR KNOWLEDGE OF HOW LOCAL GOVERNMENT WORKS, THE ROLES OF THE ROLES OF A CITIZEN, CITY COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER AND CITY STAFF.

YOUR WILLINGNESS TO INSPIRE AND EDUCATE THE YOUTH IS SINCERELY APPRECIATE IT.

PRESENTED JULY 2ND, 2026. THANK YOU ALL. CERTIFICATE OF APPRECIATION PRESENTED TO COUNCILMAN MIKE HAMMER IN GRATEFUL APPRECIATION FOR YOUR DEDICATION TO CIVIC EDUCATION AND PUBLIC SERVICE.

THANK YOU FOR VISITING KOREA'S DEVELOPING LEADERS PROGRAM AND SHARING YOUR KNOWLEDGE OF HOW LOCAL GOVERNMENT WORKS IN THE ROLES OF A CITIZEN, CITY COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER AND CITY CITY STAFF.

YOUR WILLINGNESS TO INSPIRE AND EDUCATE THE YOUTH AND SINCERELY APPRECIATE.

APPRECIATED. PRESENTED JULY 2ND, 2026. AWESOME.

YOU GOT A MINUTE? AND 46. OH, GO AHEAD, GO AHEAD.

WE JUST WANT TO TAKE A PICTURE WITH THE CERTIFICATES.

CERTIFICATE. THE CERTIFICATE. AND THEN WE'LL TAKE A PICTURE.

SO YOU WANT TO BE STAND BY. COUNCIL MEMBER HAMMEL.

ARE WE GOING? YES.

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IT'S A CHRISTMAS TREE.

ALL RIGHT. ONE. TWO. THREE. I THINK.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO. WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO CALL YOU? BILL BATTEN. REAL QUICK, MAYOR. WELL, MR. BATTEN'S, COMING UP.

I WANT TO GIVE A QUICK PLUG TO KOREA. SO A FEW MONTHS AGO THE CITY EVERYBODY KNOWS THE CITY USED TO OWN THE EVANS CENTER.

WE SUBCONTRACTED IT OUT TO A NONPROFIT BEING KOREA.

AND WITH THEM, THEY HAVE A PROGRAM WHERE THEY'RE TEACHING THESE YOUNG LADIES ENTREPRENEURSHIP AND THEY'RE HOSTING A, THEY'RE HOSTING A FASHION SHOW JULY 11TH, 2026 FROM 3 TO 6 P.M.

AT THE EVANS CENTER. SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING TO INVEST IN THE YOUTH, THIS IS A PERFECT OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.

SO GO TO THE EVANS CENTER RIGHT OFF OF FLORIDA AVENUE.

3 TO 6 P.M. JULY 11TH. SO THANK YOU, LADIES, FOR COMING.

YES, MA'AM. I'M SORRY THAT THEY PRODUCE TEEN DESIGNERS.

AND THESE ARE THE GARMENTS THAT THEY. OKAY. AND THEY'LL BE AUCTIONING THEM.

THANK YOU MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. SO, YOU KNOW, SO THEY MAKE IT FROM SCRATCH.

SO YOU'RE NOT BUYING SOMETHING FROM GOODWILL OR FROM FROM THE THRIFT STORE.

THIS IS MADE FROM SCRATCH FROM THESE YOUNG LADIES WHO ARE PRODUCTS OF OUR COMMUNITY.

SORRY. I'M DONE. MAYOR. THANK YOU, MR. BETT. SO GOOD LUCK TODAY.

SORRY. BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF ITEMS TO ADDRESS. THE FIRST ONE IS THIS SATURDAY IS THE 4TH OF JULY, 250 YEARS.

I'M PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN, AND I'M NOT GOING TO DISPUTE THAT OR COMPLAIN ABOUT IT OR ANYTHING ELSE.

OR. AND IF IT PISSES SOMEBODY ELSE OFF, I'M EVEN HAPPIER.

GO AHEAD AND SING IT. SAY AGAIN, PLEASE GO AHEAD AND SING IT, MASTER SERGEANT.

YOU'RE PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN. MY NAME IS NOT DONALD TRUMP.

I CAN'T DO THAT. OKAY, ITEM NUMBER TWO. BEAUTIFUL NEW PODIUM.

I DON'T KNOW WHO MADE IT. IT'S GORGEOUS. IT'S OAK.

OAK CARVING SOLID STRAIGHT UP. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PODIUM.

I CAN'T READ IT WITHOUT MY GLASSES. WHO MADE IT? BUT EITHER WAY, IT'S GREAT. AND THE BUTTONS DO WORK.

I SAW IT LAST NIGHT AND I PLAYED WITH THEM. IT DOES GO UP AND DOWN.

IT'S SLOW TO RESPOND, BUT IT'S BEAUTIFUL. GREAT UPGRADE.

YOU DID A REAL GOOD JOB ON THAT ONE. AND THE LAST ITEM WAS I APOLOGIZE FOR RUNNING OVER ON TIME ON NEW BUSINESS.

NUMBER ONE, I TRY TO MAKE MY PRESENTATIONS CLOSER AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

I DID TRY TO GET A FIVE MINUTE PRESENTATION ON THAT ITEM, BUT THEN I WAS LATE GETTING TO CITY, GETTING IT TO THE CITY CLERK BECAUSE IT HAD TO BE BY 2:00 ON TUESDAY.

SO I WAS LATE, SO I HAD TO RUSH IT IN ON TO TRY AND GET ALL I WANTED TO IN 3 MINUTES.

SO I APOLOGIZE FOR RUNNING OVER ON NEW BUSINESS NUMBER ONE.

AND I DON'T FEEL BAD ABOUT WHAT I SAID TO YOU EITHER.

THANK YOU. YOU DID GREAT, SIR. JOHN MCGEE.

JOHN MCGEE. I LIVE AT 1991 THORNWOOD DRIVE, BAYSIDE LAKES.

WE HAVE AN ELECTION COMING UP IN AUGUST, A PRIMARY ELECTION.

AND THERE ARE TWO CITY COUNCIL SEATS ON THE BALLOT.

WE HAVE PUT TOGETHER A TEAM OF PEOPLE FOR THE SECOND TIME.

NOW, WE WILL BE HOLDING A PUBLIC CANDIDATE FORUM ON JULY THE 27TH, MONDAY EVENING AT 6:30 P.M.

AT THE GRACE BIBLE CHURCH IN BAYSIDE LAKES. ALL SIX CANDIDATES WHO HAVE FILED TO RUN FOR OFFICE HAVE AGREED TO PARTICIPATE, AND I APPRECIATE THEM COMING AND SHARING. IT IS A CHANCE FOR YOU, AS THE CITIZENS AND THE VOTERS, TO SEE THE CANDIDATES FACE TO FACE, TO LISTEN TO WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY AND ASK THEM QUESTIONS IN PERSON.

I BELIEVE IN INTELLIGENT, FORMED VOTERS, NOT PEOPLE WHO VOTE BASED ON WHAT THEY SEE ON FACEBOOK OR WHAT THEY SEE ON

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WE DID THIS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND IT WAS FANTASTIC.

WE HAD OVER 100 PEOPLE SHOW UP. I'M HOPING WE CAN PACK OUT THE CHURCH THIS TIME, BECAUSE THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO BECOME AN INFORMED VOTER.

ONE OF THE GREATEST, MAYBE THE GREATEST RIGHT THAT WE HAVE IN OUR CONSTITUTION IS THE RIGHT TO VOTE.

AND IF WE GIVE UP THAT RIGHT TO VOTE, THEN WE GET WHAT WE GET.

SO I HOPE THAT YOU WILL COME. I HOPE YOU WILL PARTICIPATE.

I HAVE PUT IT OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA SITES ANNOUNCING IT, AND I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THE CANDIDATES IN PERSON, AND I HOPE THAT THEY WILL APPRECIATE THE PEOPLE WHO ASK THEM QUESTIONS.

THE SECOND THING THAT WE'RE WORKING ON IS A COMMUNITY FORUM.

IN LATE SEPTEMBER WITH OUR STATE REPRESENTATIVE MONIQUE MILLER, TO PRESENT WHAT IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE ON THE BALLOT FOR THE REFERENDUM ON PROPERTY TAXES IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

I THINK I SENT AN EMAIL TO ALL OF YOU TODAY. YOU SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN IT INVITING A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE CITY TO ALSO PARTICIPATE IN THAT SO WE CAN GET THE CITY'S VIEW ON WHAT IMPACT IT MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE ON THE CITY ITSELF.

SO WE'LL GIVE YOU MORE INFORMATION ON THAT. IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE THE LAST MONDAY, THE 28TH OF SEPTEMBER, AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR A LOCATION TO HOLD IT.

SO IF WE COULD HOLD IT HERE IT'D BE GREAT. BUT WE'RE DOING THIS AS A COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE BELIEVE THAT IF YOU'RE AN INFORMED VOTER, YOU CAN MAKE INTELLIGENT DECISIONS AND PUT THE PEOPLE IN PLACE THAT BEST REPRESENT YOUR POSITIONS AND YOUR BELIEFS.

SO I HOPE TO SEE YOU. AND YOU'RE WELCOME TO BAYSIDE AND THANKS FOR YOUR HELP.

THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. THOMAS GUMM. THANK YOU, THOMAS, AND HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY. AND IN THE NAME OF INDEPENDENCE, FREEDOM, LIBERTY.

EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY, I WITHDRAW ANY IMPLIED CONSENT FOR THE COLLECTION, STORAGE, OR QUERYING OF THE LOCATION DATA OF MY PERSONAL PROPERTY OR MYSELF. I DEMAND THAT THE CITY OF PALM BAY CEASE TRACKING MY MOVEMENTS THROUGH THE FLOCK SAFETY NETWORK.

I MAKE THIS STATEMENT BECAUSE ON MONDAY, THE LEGAL LANDSCAPE IN THIS COUNTRY CHANGED.

THE US SUPREME COURT RULED 6 TO 3 IN CHOUDHRY VERSUS UNITED STATES THAT THE GOVERNMENT COLLECTION OF DIGITAL LOCATION DATA IS A FOURTH AMENDMENT SEARCH.

IN HIS. JUSTICE, KEEGAN, WRITING FOR THE MAJORITY, REJECTED THE THIRD PARTY DOCTRINE, RULING THAT CITIZENS DO NOT CONSENT TO LOCATION TRACKING SIMPLY BY OPERATING ON PUBLIC ROADS OR USING DIGITAL NETWORKS.

I WOULD ADD TO THAT, OR VISITING CITY PARKS. IN HIS CONCURRING OPINION, JUSTICE GORSUCH WENT FURTHER, DEFINING DIGITAL LOCATION HISTORY RECORDS AS PERSONAL PROPERTY, PROTECTED AS AN IN EFFECT UNDER THE ORIGINAL TEXT OF THE FOURTH AMENDMENT.

WHAT THAT MEANS IS ALL THE LOCATION DATA YOU'VE COLLECTED ON ME OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS WITH FLOCK CAMERAS BELONGS TO ME.

NOT THE CITY. NOT FLOCK. I WANT IT BACK. I DON'T WANT YOU TO HAVE IT.

UNDER THE COLLECTION OF DATA ITSELF IS THE SEARCH.

THE WARRANTLESS COMPILATION OF INNOCENT CITIZENS MOVEMENTS OVER 30 DAYS IS A CONSTITUTIONAL VIOLATION.

FROM THE MOMENT THE FIRST IMAGE IS TAKEN. YOU CANNOT CONCUR.

YOU CANNOT CURE AN UNCONSTITUTIONAL MASS DRAGNET BY REQUIRING A WARRANT TO SEARCH IT AFTER THE FACT.

THE 30 DAYS OF HISTORICAL LOCATION DATA YOU CURRENTLY HOLD WAS GATHERED WITHOUT WARRANTS.

UNDER THAT DATABASE IS IS A COMPILED RECORD OF UNCONSTITUTIONAL SEARCHES, HOLDING IT, HOLDING IT IS A CONTENTIOUS DAILY VIOLATION OF OUR FOURTH AMENDMENT RIGHTS.

IF THIS ADMINISTRATION IS UNABLE OR UNWILLING TO COMPLY WITH MY PERSONAL CONSTITUTIONAL DEMAND TO CEASE WARRANTLESS TRACKING MYSELF OR MY PROPERTY. AND ANY RETENTION OF ANY IDENTIFYING DATA POINTS, YOU MUST SUSPEND OPERATIONS OF THE FLOCK NETWORK IF YOU CANNOT COMPLY WITH MY REQUEST.

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I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE HEARING THIS, BUT TO GIVE THEM SOME BACKGROUND ON WHAT THE CASE WAS ABOUT AS FAR AS THE US SUPREME COURT CASE AND WHAT THEY ACTUALLY HELD AND WHAT THE THE BACKGROUND WAS ESSENTIALLY INVOLVED. THERE WAS A BANK ROBBERY.

SO THE PERSON ROBBED THE BANK, GOT AWAY. THEY HAD POLICE HAD NO SUSPECTS.

SO WHAT THEY DID WAS THEY DID THIS. IT WAS A THREE PART PROCESS IN WHICH THEY CONTACTED GOOGLE.

THEY DEFINED OUT GEOFENCE. AND SO THEY CREATED AN AREA OUTSIDE OF THE BANK FOR A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME AND TOLD GOOGLE THEY DID GET A WARRANT, PROVIDE US ALL THE NUMBERS WITHIN THAT AREA.

THEN THEY TOOK THAT FROM THAT LEVEL. THEY GOT IT DOWN TO ANOTHER TIME FRAME, ANOTHER SEARCH AND ANOTHER.

AND AFTER THEY DID IT THREE TIMES BECAUSE THEY WERE JUST GETTING NUMBERS, THEN THEY WERE ABLE TO GET DOWN TO THREE PERSONS, ONE OF WHICH WAS MR. CHATRI. THEY WERE ABLE TO THEN ARREST HIM.

HEY, YOU'RE THE SUSPECT. AND HE FILED A MOTION TO SUPPRESS.

SO WHAT THE COURT WAS DEALING WITH WAS WHETHER WHEN THE OFFICERS OBTAINED THE INFORMATION FROM GOOGLE, WAS THAT A SEARCH? AND IT WAS THIS INFORMATION IS BASED UPON HIS PHONE.

SO WHAT THE COURT DID, THEY LOOKED AT A CASE THAT THEY HAD ALREADY RULED ON AND THEY EXTENDED IT.

THE CASE WAS CARPENTER VERSUS UNITED STATES. AND IN THAT CASE, THE SUPREME COURT HELD THAT IF POLICE WERE TO GET INFORMATION ABOUT ESSENTIALLY THE CELL PHONE TOWERS FROM A THIRD PARTY, THAT THEY NEEDED A WARRANT, AND THEY SAID, GET ME THIS HISTORICAL INFORMATION AND THIS LOCATION ARE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME.

SO THEY EXTENDED CARPENTER. AND IT'S IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO REALIZE THE EXTENDED CARPENTER, BECAUSE AFTER CARPENTER, THERE WERE LOTS OF PEOPLE THAT CHALLENGE THE LICENSE PLATE READER.

WELL, IF THEY SIT UNDER CARPENTER, YOU CAN'T GET THE INFORMATION ABOUT HISTORICAL INFORMATION FROM CELL PHONES.

YOU CAN'T DO LICENSE PLATES AND ALL THE CASES THAT TRY TO USE CARPENTER TO INVALIDATE THE LICENSE PLATE READERS.

THEY WERE NOT SUCCESSFUL. THIS CASE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LICENSE PLATE READERS.

WHAT IT HAS TO DO IS GEOFENCING, AND IT TALKS ABOUT ESSENTIALLY WHAT IS MOVING FURTHER.

IT'S EVERYBODY HAS CELL PHONES. SO IF YOU'RE GETTING INFORMATION ABOUT SOMEBODY'S CELL PHONE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET A WARRANT. THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT IT IS.

FURTHER EXTENDING THAT THE CELL PHONES ARE EVERYWHERE.

EVERYBODY HAS THEM. THERE ARE MANY COMPUTERS. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET INFORMATION ABOUT THAT. PEOPLE HAVE ABOUT CELL PHONES WITHOUT A WARRANT. THAT'S WHAT THE CASE IS ABOUT.

THANK YOU MA'AM, I APPRECIATE THE BRIEF AND HIGHLIGHTING THAT.

NEXT SPEAKER, MICHAEL BRIODY.

MICHAEL MORIARTY. 742 CORNELIA AVENUE. AND I WON'T APOLOGIZE FOR WEARING THIS SHIRT.

IT'S ONLY FITTING. AFTER A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST.

I HAVE TWO AREAS OF CONCERN RELATING TO TWO SCOPES OF WORK FROM TAG THE EUCLID GROUP.

YOU'VE HIRED A FORMER CITY MANAGER TO TRAIN AN ADVISORY BOARD.

CITY STAFF SHOULD HAVE THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS THAT SHOULD BE ABLE TO TRAIN AN ADVISORY BOARD.

TALK ABOUT A CREATING A MORALE ISSUES WITHIN OUR CITY.

JUST PUSHING ASIDE OUR STAFF FOR OTHERS JUST SEEMS TO BE A REOCCURRING THING.

THE CITY MANAGER SHOULD ALSO BE ABLE TO TRAIN STAFF OR AN ADVISORY BOARD ON THE BUDGET AND THE BUDGET PROCESS.

THE CONTRACT FOR TRAINING. THIS ADVISORY BOARD CALLS FOR THE EUCLID GROUP LEE FELDMAN TO RECEIVE $4,800 PER MONTH FOR FOUR MONTHS, WITH AN OPTION FOR UP TO SIX ADDITIONAL MONTHS.

MY SECOND CONCERN. I'M NOT SURE IF ALL THE CITY COUNCIL IS AWARE OF THE REDEVELOPMENT ACTION PLAN.

POWERPOINT FOR THE COMPOUND, WHICH WAS COMPLETED BY US EPA OFFICE OF BROWNFIELD IN MARCH 2025.

AN EXTREMELY DETAILED 21 PAGE REPORT WITH AN EXECUTIVE SUMMARY, OVERVIEW AND SPECIFIC STEPS MOVING FORWARD WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE COMPOUND.

COINCIDENTALLY, WOULD HAVE CREATED 2500 2500 JOBS AND IN AN UNSPECIFIED FIELD AND PROVIDED FOR

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HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING. SO IF ANY COMMENTS CAN BE MADE ON THIS LATER ON.

MY CONCERN HERE IS THAT THE EUCLID GROUP, LEE FELDMAN, HAS ALSO SUBMITTED A DRAFT SCOPE OF WORK TO TO COMPLETE THE SAME WORK THAT WAS ALREADY DONE IN 2025, POWERPOINT. AND HERE'S THE KICKER.

IN A DRAFT PROPOSAL, MR. FELDMAN HAS SET OUT TO CHARGE THE CITY $65,000, IN ADDITION TO THE POINTLESS 4800 A MONTH ADVISORY. WHEN WE HAVE QUALIFIED PEOPLE, GOOD PEOPLE IN OUR CITY THAT CAN DO THIS.

I MEAN, IS IS EVERYONE BLIND? HISTORY JUST SEEMS TO BE REPEATING HERE WITH MR. MORTON HERE. AND IT JUST RUNS BACK TO ICMA. IT ALL POINTS RIGHT BACK TO ICMA.

THANK YOU. YOU GUYS HAVE A GREAT WEEK. OKAY. NEXT SPEAKER.

MAYOR. CAN WE JUST TALK ABOUT THE BROWNFIELD REPORT? SURE.

I MEAN, WE WE HAD AN ENTIRE COUNCIL MEETING ON IT AS A WORKSHOP, I BELIEVE.

YOU KNOW, A STUDY IS A STUDY. IT DOESN'T COME WITH FINANCING.

IT DOESN'T COME WITH A LOT OF THINGS THAT JUST IT KIND OF LAYS OUT THE GROUNDWORK.

AND WHAT THIS COUNCIL BODY DID AFTER THAT IS WE WE WENT FOR A WORKFORCE JOB GRANT THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE THROUGH THROUGH SEVERAL TRIPS TO TALLAHASSEE, WORKING WITH OUR LEGISLATIVE LOBBYING GROUP. AND THAT GRANT IS CURRENTLY SITTING ON THE GOVERNOR'S DESK AWAITING SIGNATURE.

IT'S A, IT'S THE FIRST PART OF THE ACTION TO, TO MAKE THAT STUDY A REALITY.

AND SO YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST, WE'RE JUST HOPEFUL, HOPEFUL THAT THE GOVERNOR WILL SIGN THAT, THAT WORKFORCE GRANT WHICH WILL IN TURN CREATE, CREATE JOBS, ALLOW US TO RUN INFRASTRUCTURE TO THE NORTHEAST END OF THE COMPOUND AND START ACTING ON THE STUDY. SO IF I MISSED ANYTHING, MR. MORTON, PLEASE ADD ME IN TERMS OF THE SCOPE OF WORK PROVIDED BY THE EUCLID GROUP THAT WAS REJECTED.

THAT WAS ESSENTIALLY AN UNSOLICITED PROPOSAL.

I ADDRESSED WHY WE BROUGHT LEE FELDMAN IN TO HELP RUN WITH THE CATF, AND I'LL JUST GIVE A QUICK EXAMPLE.

AGAIN, MY TIME AND ENERGY IN THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS HAS BEEN DIRECTED TO BE CLOSER TO A LOT OF THE FREE TIME I HAVE IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS HAS BEEN DIRECTED TO MAKING SURE THE SEWER PLANT COMES ONLINE AND OTHER COUNCIL PRIORITIES. AND I'LL REMIND YOU, EVERYTHING'S A FINANCIAL DECISION. WHEN I FIRED WADE TRIM AND REFUSED TO ACCEPT ANY ADDITIONAL BILLS, I THINK THAT SAVINGS. GABRIEL, PLEASE STEP UP IF I'M WRONG. WE'VE SAVED ALREADY OVER A MILLION, $1.1 MILLION FROM THAT CONTRACTOR THAT I REJECTED.

ANY FUTURE BILLS I'VE BEEN WORKING FOR FREE FROM THE NEGOTIATION I DID. SO, YES, I SPENT $40,000 TO HAVE SOMEONE COME MANAGE A PROCESS SO I COULD SAVE THE CITY $1 MILLION OR MORE. SO I EXPLAINED THAT TO THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING.

WE'LL CONTINUE TO HIRE CONSULTANTS AND STAFF WHEN IT'S APPROPRIATE AND WHEN IT FURTHERS THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES OF THE CITY. AND WHEN I FIND IT'S IN THE INTEREST OF OUR RESOURCES AND ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY, WE ALWAYS BRING THOSE TO COUNCIL. SO. SO THAT'S THE ONLY ANSWER I HAVE TO THAT.

THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER IS CONNIE MCCLEARY. HI.

GOOD EVENING. MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I'M HERE TO. I FORGOT MY GLASSES. FOR THE RECORD, WE STOPPED THE CLOCK. MISS CONNIE. THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE THAT.

GOD BLESS YOU. I'M I'M. I'M HERE TO ADDRESS TWO THINGS.

THE FIRE THAT HAPPENED ON MAY THE 23RD. I SENT ALL OF Y'ALL PICTURES.

AND ALSO THE CHIEF WITH THE FIRE STARTED IN THE HOMELESS COUNT IN OUR COMMUNITY BEHIND OUR HOUSE.

YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE ADDRESSING THAT. SO IT'S SOMETHING SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE ABOUT THAT BECAUSE IT'S A LOT OF HOMELESS PEOPLE BACK THERE. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY STILL BACK THERE OR NOT, BUT I KNOW IT WAS A LOT OF HOMELESS PEOPLE BACK THERE.

AND I KNOW THAT THE CITY OF MELBOURNE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE PALM BAY POLICE DEPARTMENT HAVE BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY EVER SINCE THAT HAPPENED.

AND I WANT TO THANK MR. MORTON BECAUSE HIM AND MISS LAMB JENNY LAMB, THE CITY MANAGER OF PALM BAY.

WE I INVITED THEM TO THE COMMUNITY ON THE 10TH OF JUNE, AND THEY BOTH CAME.

AND WE HAD A GREAT DIALOG AND DISCUSSION ABOUT STUFF THAT HAPPENED IN OUR COMMUNITY.

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SO I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR ANSWERING YOU KNOW, TO THE EMAIL THAT I SENT.

NOW, I ALSO WANT TO DISCUSS FOR CHEMICAL, IT WAS AN INCIDENT LAST WEEK AT FAR CHEMICAL.

I GET A TEXT SHELTER IN PLACE FROM THE PALM BAY POLICE DEPARTMENT.

OKAY. SHELTER IN PLACE. WHAT'S GOING ON? SO I CALLED THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO SEE IF I CAN GET, YOU KNOW, SOME INFORMATION CALLED PEOPLE CALLING ME.

AND I'M LIKE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. SO I CALLED.

AT FIRST, THE DISPATCHER KIND OF LITTLE RUDE.

SO I WAS LIKE, OKAY, WELL, THANK YOU. I SAID, WHAT DO I DO? I'LL CALL CHIEF SPEARS AND I COME TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND SPEAK WITH THEM.

THE MAYOR. DEPUTY MAYOR. I MEAN MAYOR MEDINA AND I START NAMING THE COUNCIL MEMBER.

SHE KIND OF GOT A LITTLE CALM DOWN. SO. AND I ASKED FOR HER HER NAME.

SHE GAVE ME HER BADGE NUMBER AND STUFF. BUT ANYWAY, SO, BUT SHE SAID, WELL, I'LL CALL YOU BACK.

NO, SHE SAID, I HAVE SOMEONE TO CALL YOU BACK AND EXPLAIN TO YOU WHAT'S GOING ON.

SO I DID GET A CALL BACK IN ABOUT 20 MINUTES LATER AND WAS SAYING IT WAS AN INCIDENT THAT HAPPENED AT FAR CHEMICAL AND, YOU KNOW, AND EVERYTHING. AND THEY WERE ASKING PEOPLE TO STAY TO SHELTER IN PLACE AND STUFF.

SO MY WHAT I, I WANT TO ASK IS THIS INCIDENT THAT HAPPENED? IS IT BEING INVESTIGATED? IF SO, BY WHO HAVE OSHA BEEN BROUGHT IN WITH THIS? BECAUSE THINGS HAVE HAPPENED AT FAR CHEMICAL BEFORE.

WE HAVEN'T GOT NO ANSWER FROM OTHER STUFF THAT HAPPENED.

SO I JUST WANT TO, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU. IT'S FOR OUR SAFETY.

YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. MR. MORTON. THANK YOU.

YES, WE DID HAVE AN INCIDENT IN FAR CHEMICAL, AND THE EVACUATION WAS PRECAUTIONARY AND PROBABLY VERY WISE.

BREVARD COUNTY HAZMAT. AND OUR POLICE AND FIRE RESPONDED.

AND IN FACT, I WAS THANKING THEM FOR THAT, BECAUSE WHEN MOST OF US WANT TO GO THE OTHER DIRECTION, THEY WENT RIGHT TO THE SITE. THE NEXT STEP, AND I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH CHIEF STOVER ON THAT AS WE'VE BEEN DOING SOME FACT FINDING. AND THE NEXT STEP HONESTLY IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE COORDINATING, IN MY OPINION, CHIEF STOVER, IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THIS, BUT WE NEED TO BE COORDINATING WITH THE EPA AT THIS POINT.

AS A NEXT STEP TO ENSURE THAT THEY'VE RECEIVED THE REPORTING THAT IS GOING TO COME UP AND SPEAK TO THAT. THE US COAST GUARD WAS THE ONLY FEDERAL AGENCY THAT WAS ABLE TO RESPOND THE DAY OF THE INCIDENT. YOU CAN COME ON UP, CHIEF, AND FILL IN ANY GAPS OR ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE. AND IN OUR DISCUSSION, THE CHIEF HAS CONCERNS. HE'S GOT SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT ONGOING OPERATIONS, COMPLIANCE, SAFETY.

AND WE ARE WORKING FOR A PLAN TO OBTAIN THE FINAL REPORT FROM HAZMAT AND ALSO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE CONNECTING WITH NOT ONLY THE EPA, BUT OTHER AGENCIES TO ENSURE THAT THIS IS BEING ADDRESSED PROPERLY.

IT IS SOMEWHAT BEYOND SOME OF OUR SCOPE. CHIEF, I'LL LET YOU FILL THAT IN OUR CAPABILITY, I SHOULD SAY. YES. THE WE GOT THERE. THE COAST GUARD WAS ONE OF THE FIRST ORGANIZATIONS THAT GOT AHOLD OF US TO SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON THERE.

THEY ARE DOING AN INVESTIGATION. I'M NOT SURE WHERE THAT FALLS AT THE MOMENT WHERE IT'S AT USCG, THE UNITED STATES COAST GUARD IS DOING THE INVESTIGATION.

YES, SIR. OKAY. WELL, THEY MAY NOT BE DOING THE WHOLE INVESTIGATION, BUT THEY WERE A PART OF IT. THEY WERE THE FIRST ORGANIZATION TO CALL US THAT NIGHT. OKAY.

COUNTY HAZMAT HAS ARRIVED BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO ALL THE ENTRIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF WE DON'T HAVE THAT KIND.

WE HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE THE SUITS. I SHOULD PROBABLY SAY IT EASIER THAT WAY.

WE DON'T HAVE THE SUITS TO GET IN. THEY DID. THEY DID THE GUIDANCE.

I DID THE INVESTIGATION, LOOKED AT IT. IT WAS RESOLVED RATHER EASILY.

BUT THERE ARE SOME OTHER CONCERNS THAT ARE TAKING PLACE.

I WAS HAVING A CONVERSATION. I BELIEVE IT WAS DAY BEFORE YESTERDAY.

THERE ARE. THEY ARE WORKING ON SOME MAJOR IMPROVEMENTS.

THE COMPANY FAR HAS BEEN TAKEN OVER BY ANOTHER COMPANY.

THE THE WE'RE GOING TO GET TO A POINT HOPEFULLY HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS WHERE WE'LL HAVE SOME INPUT FROM THE COUNTY AND FROM THE ORGAN.

WE PLAN TO GO OUT TOO FAR AND WORK WITH THEM TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON AND GET SOME MORE INFORMATION THERE.

THE PLANT SAFETY MANAGER CALLED ME UP. I BELIEVE IT WAS THE DAY AFTER.

HE EXPLAINED THAT IT ENDED UP BEING A VERY RELATIVELY MINOR INCIDENT.

THEY GOT INSIDE OF THERE AND EVERYTHING WAS PRETTY MUCH TAKEN CARE OF.

IT WAS SOME RESINS THAT WAS GOING OUT THERE, NOTHING HAZARDOUS THAT WAS OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY.

THE THING WAS, IS THE REVERSE 911 WAS INITIATED OUT OF AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION.

SO THAT'S ALL THAT WAS, WAS REALLY TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT NOBODY GOT OUT AND ABOUT TO WHERE IF IT HAD BEEN SOMETHING SERIOUS.

YES, WE HAVE SOME CONCERNS. NOW IT'S THIS IS THE SECOND TIME SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE THAT THERE'S BEEN AN INCIDENT THERE.

THERE HAVE BEEN INCIDENTS IN THE PAST GREATER, LARGER INCIDENTS IN THE PAST.

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SO RIGHT NOW, WE'RE NOT AT A POINT WHERE WE CAN TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT THE END RESULT IS GOING TO BE, BUT WE DO KNOW THAT THEY ARE WORKING IN THE BACKGROUND, AND WE WILL BE WORKING NOT ONLY WITH THEM, BUT HOPEFULLY WE'LL COME BACK WITH SOME KIND OF RESOLVE.

BUT I DO WANT TO CAUTION AND SAY THAT WE HAVE NO ABILITY TO SHUT THEM DOWN.

WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THEY HAVE.

WE HAVE SAFETY CONCERNS, AND WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT AT SOME POINT, BASED ON THE CONVERSATION I HAD THE OTHER DAY, WE'LL PROBABLY BE GETTING IN THERE AND DOING SOME MORE WORK WITH THEM, BECOMING MORE FAMILIAR WITH THE FACILITY, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING SINCE THEY'VE BEEN TAKEN OVER, AND HOPEFULLY THAT'LL GET US TO A POINT TO WHERE THAT NOT ONLY WILL WE HAVE A BETTER RESPONSE PLAN, THEY WILL HOPEFULLY BE IN A SAFER POSITION. AND THE FEDERAL AGENCIES, ALL THE ALL THE A, B, C AGENCIES WILL BE OUT THERE THAT ARE INVESTED IN THIS.

AND I CANNOT TELL YOU WHO THOSE ARE RIGHT NOW, JUST BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHO THEY ARE RIGHT NOW.

AND AT THAT POINT THERE, HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE SOMETHING FURTHER. BUT HE DID CALL WHEN HE ASSURED.

HE CALLED ME AND ASSURED ME THAT IT WAS TAKEN CARE OF AND THAT THEY WERE WILLING TO WORK WITH US WHENEVER WE WERE READY TO.

HEY. SO, CHIEF, A FEW YEARS AGO YOU CAME BEFORE US OR, YOU KNOW, FIRE FAR CAME BEFORE US AND THERE WAS SOME SAFETY MEASURES THAT WERE IN PLACE AND, AND WE WERE SOLD ON THAT BECAUSE I, I WASN'T A FAN OF FAR.

AND, AND WHEN YOU THE TEAM CAME BEFORE US AND SAID, HEY, THIS IS A GOOD THING.

WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, ENHANCE THE SAFETY PROVISIONS TO THIS.

SO WHAT I'M HEARING TODAY IS IT WASN'T ENOUGH.

WELL, THEY ARE THE PROCESS OF DOING A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WERE IN THAT AGREEMENT.

THE FIRESIDE HAS NOT ALLOWED THEM TO FINISH. AND IF I'M INCORRECT BACK THERE, LET ME KNOW.

BUT THEY, THEIR PROBLEM WAS WITH THE GATE. THEY WERE JUST WORKING ON THE GATE.

THE GATE WILL BE UP THERE. IT'S NOT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A BRICK WALL.

I GUESS THERE WAS AN INTERPRETATION OF BELIEF OR A MISUNDERSTANDING THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE A BRICK WALL.

IT'S A CHAIN LINK FENCE AROUND THE FACILITY. AND I'M GLAD YOU BRING THAT UP, BECAUSE I KNOW I WAS PRETTY ADAMANT.

I THINK COUNCILMAN JOHNSON AND MYSELF WERE THE ONLY ONES ON THE BOARD AT THAT TIME.

AND THIS WAS ALSO BASED ON THEIR LAWSUIT. BUT I, I WASN'T A FAN BECAUSE OF THE RISK.

THERE WAS AN EXPLOSION YEARS AGO BEFORE I GOT ON THE DAIS.

SO THAT BEING SAID WHAT SAFETY PROVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED SINCE I THINK, WHAT WAS IT 2 OR 3 YEARS AGO THAT THIS CAME BEFORE? CAN YOU ANSWER THAT? I CAN ONLY TELL YOU FROM THE TIME IT WAS ABOUT A YEAR AGO ACTUALLY, WHERE THEY HAD THE ORANGE.

I FORGET THE CHEMICAL. IT WAS THERE. IT WAS A RUPTURED VALVE.

IT BLEW OFF REAL QUICK AND ALL WAS WELL. IT DISSIPATED INTO THE AIR.

THAT PART WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN WITH. LIKE I SAID, THE MANAGER CALLED ME LAST WEEK AND WE DO PLAN ON GETTING BACK TOGETHER AS FAR AS WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHERE WE'RE GOING TO TAKE IT FROM THERE. I'M NOT READY TO I CAN'T TELL YOU YET JUST BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TOGETHER YET.

SO THE SAFETY PROVISIONS THAT OUR FIRE TEAM CAME BEFORE US AND WAS SOLD ON, NONE OF THOSE PROVISIONS HAVE BEEN MET LIKE THE WALL. AND ALL OF THAT HAS YET TO BE MET.

AND THAT WAS TWO, THREE YEARS AGO. THE WALL IS ACTUALLY A FENCE.

AM I NOT CORRECT ON THAT? YES. YEAH. IT'S A FENCE.

A CHAIN LINK FENCE. YEAH. THAT WAS A SECURITY MEASURE.

THAT WAS NOT MY INTENT. BUT, I'VE GOT THE CITY ATTORNEY WEIGHING IN AND I GOT THE.

DEPUTY MAYOR TRYING TO WEIGH IN. CARRY ON, MADAM ATTORNEY.

MAYOR, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY BECAUSE WE'RE MIXING UP A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT HAPPENED.

THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT THAT WE'RE INVOLVING THE WALL FAR DID SUE FAR SUED BECAUSE COUNCIL HAD APPROVED SOME DEVELOPMENT ORDERS FOR MLEF SO IT WAS MLE F'S PROPERTY THAT WAS THE SUBJECT OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

SO THE WALL WASN'T ABOUT FAR BECAUSE FAR WASN'T SEEKING ANYTHING AT THE TIME.

THE WALL WAS BETWEEN FAR AND EMILY F AND IT WAS CONTINGENT UPON BEFORE MLEF COULD OBTAIN A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.

MLF HASN'T DONE ANYTHING WITH THE SITE, SO THAT WALL IS NOT A FACTOR IN THE IN ANY OF THIS, BECAUSE THE WALL REQUIREMENTS ON EMILY F AFTER THE EXPLOSION FAR DID COME IN FOR A CONDITIONAL USE ON THEIR PROPERTY SO THAT THEY COULD, YOU KNOW, BUILD SOME TYPE OF BUILDING THAT WAS BETTER ABLE TO HOUSE THE CHEMICALS.

AND THEN THEY DID A VACATION AND THAT'S WHERE THE FENCING WAS.

BUT THE WALL ISN'T A PART OF WHAT THEY DID RELATIVE TO THEIR SAFETY MEASURES.

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WELL, THAT FENCE, WHEN THEY CAME BACK, I'M THINKING IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A WALL.

THAT'S THAT'S ALL. YEAH. FOR MLF, ONCE THEY DEVELOP THE RESIDENTIAL.

BUT THE. THIS FENCE HAS TO DO WITH. WHEN THEY WERE LOOKING, THEY ASKED FOR THEIR VACATION AND THEY ALSO DID THE CONDITIONAL USE.

SO IT'S COMPLETELY SEPARATE. TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU MA'AM. DEPUTY MAYOR, THANK YOU MAYOR.

CHIEF, IS IT A REQUIREMENT FOR ANY BUSINESS OR OR FOR CHEMICAL TO PROVIDE THE CITY, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, A COPY OF OTHER MSDS MATERIAL SAFETY DATA SHEETS.

YES IT IS. SO YOU AND AND THE COUNTY HAZMAT TEAM ALSO HAS ALL THOSE WITH THEM ALSO.

OKAY. I'VE HAD I'VE HAD CONCERNS WITH FIRE CHEMICALS FOR A LONG TIME.

AND I WAS ABOUT A MILE SOUTH OF. I WAS ON RJ COLIN WHEN THE TEXT WENT OUT AND PRIOR TO THAT MY EYES WERE BURNING AND, AND I WAS LIKE, WHY I'M HAVING THESE REALLY WEIRD SYMPTOMS. AND, YOU KNOW, AND IT WAS, IT WAS THE SITUATION THAT WAS GOING ON AT FAR CHEMICAL.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IT WASN'T A POTENT OR DANGEROUS SUBSTANCE.

BUT THE REALITY OF THE MATTER IS THEY CREATE AND MANUFACTURE SOME REALLY SERIOUS CHEMICALS, AND THEY'RE VERY CLOSE TO THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON AND BACKS UP TO, TO A COMMUNITY THAT BORDERS MELBOURNE AND PALM BAY.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF, YOU KNOW, IN THE SPIRIT OF FREE ENTERPRISE AND BUSINESS, BUT ALSO PUBLIC SAFETY, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY IS THERE IS SOME ORDINANCES THAT CAN BE DRAFTED IN PLACE THAT THAT REQUIRES YOU KNOW, SEMI OR QUARTERLY INSPECTIONS FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ALSO REQUIRING THAT TO ISSUE OR REISSUE A BUSINESS TAX RECEIPT THAT THEY HAVE TO SHOW FULL COMPLIANCE WITH ALL THE REGULATORY GOVERNMENT AGENCIES LIKE THE FDP, FDP OR THE EPA.

I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THOSE ARE THINGS THAT ARE THAT ARE POSSIBLE. ARE WE ASKING THE CITY ATTORNEY OR ARE WE ASKING THE CHIEF IN GENERAL TO CITY ATTORNEY HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO THAT? NO, THE THAT LICENSING AND THAT REGULATION IS ALL DONE BY THE STATE.

NOW, WHAT I, WHAT I CAN OFFER IS WHEN WE SPEAK BACK, WHEN WE SPEAK AGAIN WITH THE SAFETY MANAGER FROM FA, WE'LL SIT DOWN AND WE'LL WORK WITH THEM TO COME UP WITH SOME KIND OF PLAN AND WE'LL SHARE IT WITH.

YEAH. AND I THINK FURTHERMORE, IT'D BE IMPORTANT TO TO ALLOW TRAINING FOR BOTH AGENCIES.

PALM BAY AND, AND BREVARD COUNTY HAZMAT TRAINING FOR SITUATIONAL TRAINING FOR, FOR THE REAL SERIOUS STUFF THAT THAT IS BEING PRODUCED THERE.

I CAN ONLY TELL YOU THE INTERACTIONS I'VE HAD WITH THEM HAVE BEEN GOOD.

IN THE PAST, I UNDERSTAND THERE WAS SOME CONFLICT.

I WASN'T HERE FOR THAT. BUT I CAN TELL YOU ONCE WE SAT DOWN AND TALKED TO HIM BASED ON BASED ON THE PLANT OR THE PLANT SAFETY MANAGER'S ATTITUDE, WHEN HE CALLED ME, HE CALLED ME. I DIDN'T CALL, I WASN'T TRACKING HIM DOWN.

I DON'T REALLY FORESEE WE'LL HAVE A PROBLEM INTERACTING AND DOING SOMETHING POSITIVE.

I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT TO WHAT EXTENT THAT WILL GO INTO WHAT THE END RESULT OF THAT WILL BE, BUT WE'LL BE ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER AND FIGURE SOMETHING OUT.

THANK YOU. STAN, I'VE GOT I'VE GOT COUNCILMAN.

JOHNSON. GO AHEAD. JUST A QUICK QUESTION. BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S TAKEN A MINUTE IN REGARDS TO THE EPA.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL BE ANY VALUE FOR THIS COUNCIL TO WRITE A LETTER OR OR.

YOU'RE RIGHT THERE TO MISS MORTON. IS THAT A CONSENSUS THEN? YEAH, THAT'S A CONSENSUS. ALRIGHT. THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING. GREAT MIND. ALL RIGHT. I WAS WRITING A LETTER, AND IF YOU PREFER, I'LL BRING IT TO COUNCIL. LET'S GET IT SENT OUT. SO IS THAT THAT YOURS TOO? ALL RIGHT. DONE DEAL. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU.

CARRY ON. THANK YOU. OH, AS YOU WERE, COUNCILMAN HAMMER.

OH, SORRY ABOUT THAT. YEAH, I HEARD SOMETHING I REALLY WASN'T COMFORTABLE WITH. DID I HEAR THERE'S A FACILITY WITHIN OUR CITY THAT YOU DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE THE SUITS TO GO AND SAVE SOMEBODY.

SHOULD THEY BE IN THERE? I BELIEVE THAT ANSWER IS GOING TO BE A YES.

BECAUSE OF THE WORK THEY DO AND WITH THE DEFENSE DEPARTMENT THAT'S PROBABLY ABOUT AS FAR AS I CAN GO ON THAT RIGHT NOW.

BUT YES, I'M GOING TO SAY SAFELY THAT THAT PROBABLY IS A ACCURATE.

OKAY. WHY WAS THE COAST GUARD CALLED BEFORE YOU WERE.

WELL, NO, THEY WEREN'T CALLED BEFORE. WE WERE. THEY JUST CALLED WHEN WE GOT THERE. THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THERE, THE WATERWAYS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. THAT'S THEIR PRIORITY.

THEY WERE CLOSE TO THE RIVER. I'M SURE THAT'S WHY THEY'RE INVOLVED. SO YOU WERE THERE BEFORE THEM, BUT THEY CALLED YOU. THEY NEVER SHOWED UP. BUT THEY DID CALL.

CORRECT. OKAY. AND MY LAST QUESTION, DID YOU GET THERE BEFORE BREVARD COUNTY? WHEN I WHAT THE ME OR THE DEPARTMENT? OUR DEPARTMENT DID PALM BAY GET THERE BEFORE BREVARD COUNTY WAS FIRST ON SCENE? YES. I AND WHEN I ARRIVED, THE HAZMAT TEAM WAS STAGING, GETTING READY TO GO INSIDE, GO INTO THE WARM AREA TO START DOING THEIR WORK.

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THEY WERE VERY COOPERATIVE. THEY, THEY WERE OUTSTANDING.

I HAVE SOME CONCERNS. I'LL SPEAK TO THE CITY MANAGER ABOUT AT A LATER DATE, BUT THAT'S ALL I NEED.

SO RIGHT ALONG THAT SAME VEIN, CHIEF, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE SUITS TO SEND GUYS IN.

IS THAT WHAT WE ARE? NOT A HAZMAT TEAM. THAT TAKES.

DOES THE COUNTY HAVE A HAZMAT TEAM? YES, SIR.

THEY DO THAT. THAT'S OUR WHEN WHEN THERE'S A HAZMAT IN THE ANYWHERE IN THE CITY.

AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IN THE COUNTY, THEY ARE THE PRIMARY AND THE ONLY HAZMAT TEAM IN THE COUNTY RIGHT NOW.

NOW WE HAVE THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTY TO BRING OTHER AGENCIES IN.

AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT CAPABILITY OR WE DO NOT.

THAT IS A VERY EXPENSIVE VENTURE, A EXTENSIVE AMOUNT OF TRAINING.

AND WE WERE FOCUSED RIGHT NOW ON PRIMARY OPERATIONS.

ALL RIGHT, SIR. THANK YOU. THAT'S GOOD. THANK YOU SIR.

THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. GARY.

GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL AND STAFF.

ALL FOR, GA 1680 MAIN STREET. I HEARD SO MUCH CONVERSATION THIS EVENING THAT REALLY BROUGHT MY ATTENTION TO SO MANY PLAYS STRETCHES ALL OVER.

FIRST I MUST SAY ONE OF OUR CITIZENS HAD MENTIONED ABOUT ELECTION AND I'M ONE OF THE CANDIDATES FOR SEAT FOUR. I'VE BEEN A LONG TIME RESIDENT HERE IN PALM BAY.

I SEE A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT. WHEN I CAME IN 85, A FLASHING LIGHT WAS RIGHT HERE BY MALABAR ROAD AND MINTON ROAD.

THERE WAS A FLASHING LIGHT AND DIRT. SO A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT GOES ON SINCE THEN, BUT THERE IS SO MUCH MORE NEED TO BE DONE FOR OUR CITY, ESPECIALLY WITH THIS YOU KNOW, FAST POPULATION GROWTH IN OUR CITY.

BUT I'VE BEEN CAMPAIGNING MYSELF AND A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP ABOUT A TRAFFIC LIGHT BY EMERSON.

I KNOW WE, YOU KNOW, I OVERHEARD A FEW CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS TRAFFIC LIGHT ON EMERSON AND THE PARKWAY.

I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. AND A LOT OF CITIZENS OUT THERE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS INTERSECTION BECAUSE THESE TWO GAS STATIONS GOING UP RIGHT NOW, AND I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE OF US AS COUNCIL MEMBER WOULD GO BY THERE.

AND IN THE MORNING, ABOUT SEVEN, 8:00 TO SEE THE CONGESTION THERE, ESPECIALLY MAKING A LEFT TURN FROM THE PARKWAY BACK TO EMERSON.

AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A SERIOUS INCIDENT HERE PRETTY SOON.

DEPUTY MAYOR HAD MENTIONED ABOUT THE IMPACT FEE.

SOME OF THESE AREAS THAT THE FEE WAS COLLECTED ON.

I KNOW, I KNOW, IT'S HARD TO MOVE IMPACT FEE FROM ONE YOU KNOW, ERA TO THE OTHER, BUT ON 907 ON THE PARKWAY WHERE ALL THESE IMPACT FEES COLLECTED.

WHY CAN'T WE DO SOME IMPROVEMENT IN THAT AREA WHERE THE IMPACT FEE WAS COLLECTED? AND THIS REALLY CONCERNED ME TO A LOT OF CITIZENS COMPLAIN ABOUT IT.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REASON WHY WE CAN'T SPEND THAT MONEY IN THAT AREA WHERE IT WAS COLLECTED FOR, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE WORD IMPACT FEE TELL YOU EXACTLY THE USE OF THE FUNDS.

I KNOW WE MAY BE USING SOME OF THESE IMPACT FEE TO PURCHASE THIS PROPERTY IN OUR IN BAYSIDE LAKE, RIGHT? THAT'S MAYBE SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO DO ALSO, BUT WE NEED TO DEVELOP SOME OF THESE AREAS IN A WAY THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE CAN GET TO WORK, GET HOME SAFE, AND ALL THIS KIND OF THING.

I'VE BEEN WORKING FOR A TRAFFIC LIGHT COMPANY.

I'M DOWN IN VIERA ALL WEEK AND THEY'VE BEEN PUTTING TRAFFIC LIGHT INTERSECTION AT INTERSECTION THAT HOUSES DOESN'T START YET.

YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S KIND OF STRANGE. THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU. MR. MORTON TRAFFIC LIGHT, SAINT JOHN'S, AND EMERSON.

SO TONIGHT, ON YOUR CONSENT AGENDA IS AN ITEM TO PUT THE TEMPORARY TRAFFIC SIGNAL WITH PEDESTRIAN SAFETY FEATURES AT SAINT JOHN'S AND EMERSON.

THAT IS IN LIEU FOR THE MASTER MANUFACTURING FOR THE PERMANENT TRAFFIC LIGHT DESIGN IS DONE, BUT THE FABRICATION IS PROBABLY ABOUT A YEAR OUT FOR FABRICATION AND INSTALLATION.

BUT THAT IS IN PROCESS AS WELL. SO THERE'S A TEMPORARY SOLUTION TO GET US TO THE FINAL INSTALLATION WITHIN PROBABLY WITHIN 12 MONTHS.

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YEAH. I MEAN, ALSO, I MEAN, MR. MORTON, I THINK ON CONSENT TOO, IF YOU CAN JUST SPEAK ON THE ROUNDABOUT AND THEN THE OVERALL VISION AND TIMING OF SAINT JOHN'S MALABAR TO THE TO THE COUNTY LINE? CERTAINLY.

YES, YES. SO ALSO ON TONIGHT'S CONSENT IS THE DESIGN, AS YOU KNOW, ASKED BY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER ROUNDABOUTS.

SO THE ROUNDABOUT FOR MALABAR ROAD AND SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY, THAT WAS THE PREFERRED DESIGN THROUGH THE P, D AND E THROUGH FDOT. SO WE ARE MOVING FORWARD.

THANK YOU, CHRISTINE, FOR THE NOD. SO WE ARE MOVING WITH THAT ROUNDABOUT DESIGN OR ASKED TO BEGIN THAT DESIGN CONSTRUCTION.

THAT IS ALSO A PRIORITY, LONGER TERM TRANSPORTATION SOLUTION, AT LEAST WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY WITH SAINT JOHN'S, AS YOU'LL HEAR SOME MORE ABOUT THE FOUR LANING TONIGHT. BUT WE HAVE THE PRELIMINARY CONSIDERATION FROM CSX, WHICH IS THE CENTRAL FLORIDA TOLLWAY, AS YOU KNOW, FOR THEM TO CONDUCT A STUDY AT THEIR SOLE EXPENSE OF OVER $1 MILLION THAT WAS ASKED AND AGREED TO BY THEM. AND WE HAD DIRECTION SUPPORT FROM COUNCIL.

WE HAVE THAT LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM COUNCIL FOR THAT ANALYSIS.

WE HAVE A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM OUR REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATION, THE SPACE COAST TPO.

WE HAVE A LETTER, IT LOOKS LIKE FORTHCOMING FROM FD M FDEM.

FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, AT LEAST THAT'S UNDER CONSIDERATION AT THE MOMENT FROM THEM. AND THEN AFTER YOU YOUR LEADERSHIP THROUGH TPO IN THE STATE, MOVE THAT CONVERSATION FORWARD. WE'VE ALSO BEEN CONTACTED BY THE COUNTY TO TALK ABOUT THEIR PARTICIPATION IN TAKING IT FROM THE COUNTY LINE NORTH TO THE HIGHWAY.

SO I THINK THAT WHOLE PROJECT HAS GOT CONSIDERABLE TRACTION BY COUNCIL'S DIRECTION AND LEADERSHIP ON TRANSPORTATION ISSUES.

PAT DOBRA.

PAT DALPRA 410 GEORGE'S AVENUE. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL AND STAFF.

I JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY TO HAVE A WONDERFUL 4TH OF JULY WEEKEND.

AND WE HAVE A SUPERB CELEBRATION SATURDAY FROM 5 TO 9.

RIGHT? HURRAH! PRAY THAT IT DOESN'T RAIN. WITH ALL THE DECISIONS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE AND CONCERNING MONIES THAT WERE CANCELED FROM THE STATE AND MAYBE PROPERTY TAX.

AND YOUR DECISION TO WORK WITH BAYSIDE TO OBTAIN RIGHTS TO THAT LAND AND MANY OTHER THINGS. I JUST WANT TO BRING US BACK TO GEORGE WASHINGTON.

BACK IN THE BEGINNING, WHEN HE HAD THE APPEAL TO HEAVEN FLAG MADE, AND HE ACTUALLY CARRIED THAT WITH HIM MANY TIMES.

AND HE APPEALED TO HEAVEN FOR GOD'S PROVISION, PROTECTION, SUCCESS, VICTORY IN HIS BATTLES.

AND IF IT WAS NOT FOR THE SOVEREIGN GOD, WE PROBABLY WOULD NOT BE HERE TODAY.

I ALSO LIKE TO SAY THAT DURING THE RATIFICATION OF THE CONSTITUTION THERE WAS A LOT OF FIGHTING, BICKERING, AND REALLY WEREN'T COMING TO CONCLUSIONS.

SO BENJAMIN FRANKLIN SAID DON'T WE THINK WE NEED TO GO BACK TO ASKING GOD TO HELP US THROUGH? SO I AM APPEALING TO HEAVEN, AND I THINK WE ALL NEED TO COME TOGETHER AND APPEAL TO HEAVEN FOR HIS HELP IN ALL THE DECISIONS THAT YOU HAVE TO MAKE.

AND JUST FOR THE THE GROWTH OF THIS CITY, MANY PEOPLE ARE, ARE UPSET AND FRUSTRATED AND WE NEED GOD'S HELP. WE NEED FINANCES. WE NEED THE INFRASTRUCTURE FIXED AND SO MANY OTHER THINGS.

SO WE DO HAVE SOMEONE THAT PRAYS AT EVERY MEETING, BUT DO WE ALL PRAY FOR OUR CITY ON AN EVERYDAY BASIS? I HAD SOME OTHER THINGS, BUT THAT'S GOING TO TAKE TOO MUCH TIME.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, ANN DAVIS.

ANN DAVIS, 123 RIDGEMONT CIRCLE. THIS HAS PROBABLY BEEN TALKED ABOUT IN OTHER MEETINGS, BUT I JUST THOUGHT I'D BRING IT UP BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF BEEN GETTING WORSE, ESPECIALLY IN THE BAYSIDE AREA. AND THAT'S ALL I CAN TALK TO IS, SINCE SCHOOL WAS OUT, I'VE BEEN SEEING PACKS OF KIDS ON BIKES, EBIKES, MOPEDS, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL THEM, IN GROUPS OF 8 TO 12, ZIPPING AROUND UP AND DOWN THE SIDEWALKS AND THEN INTO THE STREET AND THEN OVER THE BERMS. AND, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY FROM THE 7-ELEVEN DOWN TO BRAMBLEWOOD CIRCLE, THERE'S THAT EMPTY LOT AREA NEAR THE CLUBHOUSE THAT WAS GOING TO BE TOWNHOMES AT ONE POINT,

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AND SO I KNOW THAT AS A CITY, WE'RE KIND OF STUCK IN THE MIDDLE BECAUSE THE, THE STATE'S VIEW ON BICYCLES WAS KIND OF SOFT.

SO WE'RE KIND OF IN THIS POSITION WHERE WE'VE CREATED A THIRD CATEGORY OF TRAFFIC THAT DOESN'T REALLY FIT ANYWHERE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT TO HAVE BICYCLES AT 20 TO 30 MILES AN HOUR ON SIDEWALKS, BUT THEN YOU CAN'T REALLY HAVE UNLICENSED MINERS WRITING THOSE VEHICLES IN THE STREET. SO I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS, BUT I FEEL LIKE SOMETIMES COMMUNITIES WAIT UNTIL SOMETHING BAD HAPPENS AND THEN THEY SAY, OH, LESSON LEARNED, LET'S GO DO SOMETHING.

AND I WOULD LIKE FOR ALL OF US TO BE PROACTIVE AND NOT WAIT FOR SOMETHING BAD TO HAPPEN BEFORE WE TAKE ACTION.

NOW, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS CAN CREATE REGULATIONS OR GUIDELINES REGARDING SAFETY AT THE COUNTY LEVEL OR THE PALM BAY LEVEL AS AN EXTRA LAYER OF PROTECTION FOR THE KIDS.

I'M NOT EVEN PICKING ON THEM. I'M JUST WORRIED THAT EITHER THEY'RE GOING TO HURT SOMEONE OR THEMSELVES.

THERE'S GOING TO BE AN ACCIDENT, SOMEONE'S GOING TO HURT A PEDESTRIAN.

AND I JUST FEEL LIKE THIS ISSUE IS BECOMING MORE SYSTEMIC.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY SOLUTIONS THAT YOU GUYS CAN KIND OF BRAINSTORM TO SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO AT A COMMUNITY LEVEL TO PROTECT EVERYBODY IN THE SITUATION. SO THANK YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU. LEGISLATION DID PASS, HOWEVER, THE GOVERNOR VETOED THE E-BIKE.

BILL. COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON. YES. MAYOR. AND THANK YOU, MR. DAVIS, FOR YOUR COMMENTS. I AGREE WITH YOU. WHILE I'M I'M GLAD THAT MORE KIDS ARE OUT BECAUSE I DO SEE A LOT MORE KIDS OUT AND ABOUT, BUT I'VE ALSO SEEN SEVERAL CLOSE ACCIDENTS, SPECIFICALLY IN THE BAY AREA.

I SAW A KID ALMOST GET TAKEN OUT TWICE. HE. HE HEALED.

HE DIDN'T HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY EITHER. HE DIDN'T HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY. SO I'M WITH YOU.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO. MR. MORTON OR CHIEF? I'M NOT SURE IF THERE IS ANYTHING, BUT WE'LL RATHER BE PROACTIVE THAN REACTIVE IF WE CAN.

ESPECIALLY WITH WHAT THE MAYOR MENTIONED IN REGARDS TO THE VETO FROM THE GOVERNOR.

SO WE'RE NOT TRYING TO HINDER THE CHILDREN, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE SAFE AND THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE.

AND MOST OF THE TIMES I RODE MY BIKE, BUT SOMETIMES KIDS ARE BEING KIDS.

WE DON'T ALWAYS LOOK WE'RE NOT WE I'M NOT A KID ANYMORE.

BUT WHEN WE'RE AT THAT AGE, WE DON'T ALWAYS LOOK BOTH WAYS LIKE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO. SO WE WANT TO TRY TO BE AS PROACTIVE WITHOUT BEING OVERBEARING ON THEM.

SO. YEAH, BUT YOU'RE NOT. MA'AM. MA'AM. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN HAMER.

YEAH. I'D LIKE TO REMIND EVERYBODY I DISCUSSED LOW SPEED VEHICLES AND SOME REGULATIONS THAT WE COULD PUT FORTH THROUGHOUT OUR CITY.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE A MANUFACTURER OF LOW SPEED VEHICLES RIGHT HERE IN PALM BAY THAT I WAS INTERESTED IN.

POSSIBLY COMING UP WITH SOMETHING. AGE LIMITS FOR, FOR LOW SPEED VEHICLES WHERE WE DON'T HAVE E-BIKES, WE DON'T HAVE THIS. THEY'RE CALLED LOW SPEED VEHICLES. WHEN THEY REACH 25 MILES AN HOUR OR 20 MILES AN HOUR PLUS.

I WOULD, I WOULD LOVE TO BRING THAT BACK IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IT.

I, I DID SOME PRETTY IN-DEPTH RESEARCH. I'VE HAD A COUPLE CLOSE PERSONAL FRIENDS KIDS HAVE INCIDENTS ON E-BIKES AND I'M EXTREMELY PASSIONATE ABOUT IT. IF YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD, I CAN BRING SOMETHING, BUT THE OPTION IS THERE SHOULD YOU GUYS WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT AT ANOTHER POINT.

OKAY, LET'S BRING THAT UP ON THE REPORTS. OKAY.

NEXT SPEAKER, SOPHIA VAZQUEZ.

HELLO COUNCILMAN. MY NAME IS SOPHIA VASQUEZ, I LIVE ON 1344 SCOTTISH STREET.

I HAVE BEEN LIVING IN PALM BAY SINCE I WAS A LITTLE GIRL.

AND THIS HOME, THIS PLACE IS VERY, VERY DEAR TO ME.

AND PART OF WHAT MAKES THIS PLACE SO SPECIAL TO ME IS THE WILDLIFE WE HAVE AROUND HERE NOW.

I RECENTLY POSTED A VIDEO ON MY SOCIAL MEDIA THAT GOT AROUND UP VERY, VERY CLOSE, JUST UNDER 6000 VIEWS, THOUSANDS OF LIKES AND HUNDREDS OF COMMENTS AGREEING WITH MY NOTION THAT A LOT OF THE CONSTRUCTION THAT I'M OBSERVING, AS WELL AS MANY OTHER ADOLESCENTS LIKE MYSELF, ARE NOT BENEFICIAL TO THE PEOPLE HERE.

WE FEEL AS THOUGH THAT EVERY TIME WE DO SEE SOMETHING BEING BUILT, IT'S APARTMENTS, COOKIE CUTTER APARTMENTS AND HIGH DENSITY NEIGHBORHOODS.

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I DON'T THINK THAT THEY HAVE THE CAPACITY TO HOLD SO MANY PEOPLE.

I DON'T THINK THAT LIKE OUR WATER IRRIGATION SYSTEM BY PALM BAY HIGH CONSTANTLY BEING FLOODED.

I LOOK AROUND AND I SEE DEAD ANIMALS ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD MORE OFTEN THAN I DID WHEN I WAS YOUNG, BECAUSE WE'RE TEARING DOWN SO MANY LANDS FOR THESE NEW APARTMENTS AND FOR THESE NEW HOUSES.

I COME HERE TO SAY THAT I THINK THAT THE CITY WOULD REALLY BENEFIT IF WE PUT A LITTLE BIT MORE EFFORT.

I DON'T WANT TO SAY EFFORT. I THINK THE CITY WOULD REALLY BENEFIT IF WE TRIED TO PUT IN MORE INITIATIVES FOR RECREATIONAL PLACES, RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES, LIKE RECENTLY MENTIONED WITH THESE KIDS RIDING AROUND ALL THE TIME, I THINK IT'S BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A PLACE TO GO.

THEY DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE ELSE TO GO. SO WHAT DO THEY DO? THEY'RE OUT IN THE STREETS AND THEY'RE OUT DOING WHATEVER. AND THAT'S HOW I FELT WHEN I WAS YOUNGER. THAT'S HOW I FELT AS A TEENAGER, AND THAT'S HOW I FEEL NOW AS A YOUNG ADULT, THAT WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF SPACES HERE FOR US.

SO I'D JUST LIKE TO COME UP HERE AND SAY THAT THANK YOU.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MAYOR. THAT CONCLUDES THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.

ALL RIGHT. THAT MEANS WE'RE RIGHT ON SCHEDULE FOR UNDER CONSENT.

[APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA:]

BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

I'D LIKE TO SEE IF POSSIBLE UNDER CONSENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT AND CONSENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TEN ON NUMBER EIGHT.

IT WAS A UNILATERAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN INDIAN RIVER AND THE CITY OF PALM BAY FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES.

BECAUSE THEY SAID INDIAN RIVER CAN GET TO CITY OF PALM BAY RESIDENTS QUICKER THAN THE PALM BAY THAN THE CITY OF PALM BAY CAN GET TO THE RESIDENTS OF PALM BAY.

WELL, BILL BATTEN BEING THE IDIOT HE IS, HE SAYS, WELL, WHY DID WE EXPAND THE CITY INTO AREAS THAT WE KNEW WE COULD NOT PROVIDE SERVICES FOR? THAT'S WHAT THE QUESTION IS. AND SO THAT'S SAYING IF WE'RE HAVING TO ASK OTHER PEOPLE TO TAKE CARE OF OUR NEEDS, THEN EVIDENTLY WE EXPANDED MORE THAN WE HAD THE ABILITY TO MAINTAIN ON.

AND IT'S HAPPENED WITH BOTH POLICE, FIRE AND INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND THEN THE OTHER ONE WAS ITEM NUMBER TEN, WHICH WAS A FUNDING SOURCE FOR THE PLANNING OF THE SIDEWALKS ALONG DEGROOT ROAD. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO.

I UNDERSTAND IT'S A GRANT, BUT STILL, EVEN WITH THAT GRANT, YOU ASKED FOR $50,000 FOR THE PLANNING OF IT.

SO THERE'S STILL A COST, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S GRANTS.

I'M NOT TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM THAT. BUT AS I LOOK AT IT, THAT WAS MORE THAN TWO MILES OF RUN A RUN DISTANCE.

AND I THOUGHT THE SCHOOL BUSSES WERE GOING TO BE TAKING SOME OF THAT UP BECAUSE IT WAS PART OF THAT DISTANCE.

THE OTHER THING I SEE WITH THE SIDEWALK COMING IN ALONG DEGROOT ROAD IS THE FACT THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THE E-BIKES AND THE GO AND THE GOLF CARTS ALL JUST USING THE SIDEWALKS LIKE A TRAFFIC LANE.

AND THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW. THEY'RE JUST GOING FASTER AND FASTER.

IT GIVES THEM GIVE THEM A STRAIGHT SHOT FROM JUPITER BOULEVARD ALL THE WAY PAST THE SCHOOL STRAIGHT LINE.

THERE'S NO OTHER TRAFFIC STOPS OR ANYTHING ELSE.

THEY'LL BE ABLE TO GET ON THAT SIDEWALK AND JUST CRANK IT UP.

SO I'M JUST TRYING TO SAY IF THERE'S SOMETHING YOU COULD DO ABOUT THAT ONE. RIGHT? THE OTHER SIDE WITH THAT WAS SINCE THE GOVERNOR VETOED THE ELECTRIC BIKE ORDINANCE.

POSSIBLY. I DON'T WANT TO SEE MORE GOVERNMENT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE.

WELL, POSSIBLY WE COULD HAVE REGISTRATION OF E-BIKES.

WE COULD HAVE REGISTRATION OF BIKES. WE COULD HAVE REGISTRATION OF GOLF CARTS.

ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT ARE JUMPING ON THE SIDEWALK AND USING IT INSTEAD OF WALKS, THEY'RE USING IT FOR SEPARATE, SEPARATE LANE. AND WHEN IT COMES UP TO WHEN YOU'RE WALKING DOWN THE SIDEWALK AND YOU SEE THESE THINGS COMING AT YOU AT 40 AND 50 MILES AN HOUR AS YOU'RE WALKING, WHAT DO YOU DO? YOU GET OUT OF THEIR WAY. HOLD IT.

YOU'RE MISSING THE POINT OF SIDEWALKS. SO POTENTIALLY ADD A LITTLE BIT OF REVENUE COMING IN.

I KNOW IT'D BE MORE WORK THAN IT'S PROBABLY WORTH FOR THE STAFF AND THE CITY, BUT IT IS A POSSIBILITY BECAUSE PEOPLE SAY I REGISTER.

I MIGHT NOT DO IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MR. MORTON.

SO, JUST TO THE MUTUAL AID, MUTUAL AID. I DON'T WANT TO DISMISS MR. BEN'S COMMENTS. AND HE'S RIGHT. GROWTH IS HARD. GROWTH IS COMES AT US QUICK SOMETIMES. AND THE CITY HISTORICALLY NOT SINCE YOU GUYS HAVE PROVIDED LEADERSHIP AND DIRECTION HAS NOT

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THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. LET'S THINK ABOUT MUTUAL AID LIKE AN INSURANCE AGREEMENT. AND THIS AGREEMENT EXPRESSLY DOES NOT.

IN FACT, IT QUALIFIES AT NO PARTY EITHER US OR INDIAN RIVER COUNTY ARE RELIEVED FROM THE NECESSITY AND THE OBLIGATION TO PROVIDE TIMELY AND ADEQUATE EMERGENCY MEDICAL RESPONSE, FIRE RESPONSE, STRUCTURAL FIRE SUPPRESSION. SO WHAT THIS INSURANCE AGREEMENT REALLY DOES IS IT'S A WAY FOR TWO ENTITIES WHO SHARE A COMMON BORDER THAT NEITHER ONE HAVE THE FINANCIAL CAPACITY, RESOURCES, OR MAYBE ARE IN THE PLANNING STAGE TO GO AHEAD AND CONSTRUCT A BUNCH OF RESOURCES WHILE WE WATCH THAT AREA GROW. THIS IS THE HARDEST PART ABOUT WHAT WE CALL LEVEL OF SERVICE.

EVERYTHING IS GOOD UNTIL YOU HIT THAT CAP. BUT THE MINUTE I NEED ONE ADDITIONAL POLICE CAR, BUT THERE'S ONLY ONE PERSON TO PAY FOR IT, RIGHT? SO IT'S KIND OF THAT SAME THEORY.

WE NEED ADDITIONAL FIRE RESOURCES. WE DON'T HAVE THE TAX BASE YET NECESSARILY THE GROWTH PATTERN TO SUPPORT IT.

SO WHAT WE'VE DETERMINED IS IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES, A HOUSE IS ON FIRE.

THERE'S A FOR INSTANCE, THERE'S A CAR ACCIDENT WITH AN INJURY.

WE'RE SAYING WE DON'T CARE ABOUT, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHOSE IMMEDIATE RESPONSIBILITY THAT COULD BE JURISDICTIONALLY THE CARE IS GET THE RIGHT AND THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF RESOURCES DISPATCHED AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE TO SAVE LIVES AND PROPERTY.

THERE ARE SOME WHAT THEY CALL MUTUAL AID THAT'S ARE MORE DISCRETIONARY.

THEY SAY, WELL, IN THESE CIRCUMSTANCES, WHEN RESOURCES ARE AVAILABLE, WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CALL DISPATCH.

AND THAT FREES US UP TO WHERE IF WE HAD A SITUATION LIKE IN THE COMPOUND, WHERE WE HAD A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF RESOURCES DEPLOYED TO FIGHT A FIRE THAT WAS INTENTIONALLY SET SEVERAL TIMES OVER THE COURSE OF SIX WEEKS, THAT WE HAVE RESOURCES ON STANDBY IN BACKUP THAT ARE IDLING WITH THE HELP OF ANOTHER JURISDICTION TO PROVIDE THAT, THAT RESPONSE. AND SO I LIKE MUTUAL AID AGREEMENTS.

WE HAVE THEM WITH, I BELIEVE, THE BREVARD COUNTY SHERIFF. WE HAVE THEM WITH, AS YOU HEARD, THROUGH OUR BOMB SQUAD, THROUGH OUR HAZMAT RESPONSE. SO MR. BATON RAISES GREAT POINTS, BUT I DO LIKE THE MUTUAL AID AGREEMENT IN TERMS REAL QUICK OF THE SIDEWALK.

YOU KNOW, WE GET A LOT OF THAT GENERATION OF THOSE REQUESTS FOR THE SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOLS THAT ARE ORIGINATING THROUGH OUR TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATION, THE TPO. AND WE FOLLOW THAT ALONG WITH THE GUIDANCE OF BACKLOG, WE CONSIDER BACKLOG OF PEDESTRIAN, MAINLY SCHOOL AGED CHILDREN SAFETY THINGS, REGARDLESS OF THE SCHOOL BUS.

A LOT OF KIDS CHOOSE NOT TO RIDE THE SCHOOL BUS. THEY WALK, THEY RIDE THEIR BIKES OR THEY RIDE THEIR BIKES OR PARENT. RIGHT. SO PROVIDING THOSE RESOURCES I THINK IS, IS PRUDENT. AND AGAIN, THROUGH THE SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL AND OTHER GRANTING PROGRAMS, I THINK WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF OVERALL PEDESTRIAN BENEFIT.

THESE ARE GREAT PROJECTS WITH A LOT OF SAFETY DESIGN AND ITERATION CONNECTING CRITICAL KEY WALKING ROUTES THERE.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF THE STANDPOINT OF WHY YOU SEE THAT GRANT APPLICATION BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.

THANK YOU, SIR. I APPRECIATE THE BRIEF. COUNCIL MEMBERS ANY ITEMS. I NEED A MOTION. MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT. I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY SECOND, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

ALL IN FAVOR? SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. MADAM SMITH. ORDINANCE 2026-15.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2026 BUDGET BY APPROPRIATING.

ALLOCATING FUNDS AS IDENTIFIED IN EXHIBIT A, CONSISTING OF FOUR PAGES AND INCORPORATED IN ITS ENTIRETY HEREIN.

RECOGNIZING THAT SUCH APPROPRIATIONS MUST BE MADE PURSUANT TO THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

CHAPTER 35 FINANCE. ADOPTING, RATIFYING, CONFIRMING AND VALIDATING THE ALLOCATIONS PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU MA'AM. RIGHT NOW WE'RE ON PUBLIC HEARING ITEM NUMBER TWO, MADAM.

OR I'M JUST GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND DEFER TO MR. MORTON. THANK YOU, HONORABLE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL. I'M GOING TO ASK STAFF TO COME PRESENT THIS QUASI JUDICIAL PROCEEDING TO YOU TONIGHT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING. ALTHEA JEFFERSON, GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR.

FOR THE RECORD, TONIGHT, STAFF IS PRESENTING CASE V 2600002.

MADAM. MADAM. MADAM ATTORNEY, IF I MAY JUST ONE MOMENT.

I TYPICALLY WOULD, BEFORE OUR QUASI JUDICIAL HEARINGS, READ THE.

YES, MA'AM, IF I MAY. THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ARE QUASI JUDICIAL IN NATURE.

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MUST SIGN A SPEAKER CARD WHICH CONTAINS A SWORN OATH TO TELL THE TRUTH.

ANY INDIVIDUAL ADDRESSING THE COUNCIL MUST STATE HIS OR HER NAME AND CONFIRM THAT A SPEAKER CARD HAS BEEN SIGNED.

ATTORNEYS WHO ARE APPEARING ON BEHALF OF A PARTY AND NOT PROVIDING TESTIMONIAL EVIDENCE ARE NOT CONSIDERED WITNESSES AND NEED NOT BE SWORN.

COUNSEL SHOULD DISCLOSE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION BY DISCLOSING THE SUBJECT MATTER OF THE COMMUNICATION AND THE IDENTITY OF THE PERSON, GROUP OR ENTITY WITH WHOM THE COMMUNICATION TOOK PLACE.

THE ORDER OF THIS PROCEEDING WILL BE AS FOLLOWS.

FIRST, STAFF WILL MAKE HIS PRESENTATION, FOLLOWED BY THE APPLICANT THAN ANY OTHER INTERESTED PARTY.

ANY SPEAKER MAY BE SUBJECT TO CROSS-EXAMINATION BY THE COUNCIL OR ANY OTHER INTERESTED PARTY.

ANY OTHER PERSON MAY SPEAK FOR A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES.

THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE ALLOWED. CONCLUDING REMARKS.

THE QUASI JUDICIAL BODY MAY MODIFY THE TIME LIMITS ON ITS OWN MOTION OR UPON REQUEST OF A PARTY, TO THE PROCEEDING. THE HEARING WILL THEN BE CLOSED AND NO ADDITIONAL TESTIMONY OR ARGUMENT WILL BE ALLOWED.

THE COUNCIL WILL THEN DELIBERATE IN PUBLIC AT THE END OF DELIBERATION.

A COUNCIL MEMBER WILL MAKE A MOTION ON THE APPLICATION TO BRING THE MATTER TO A VOTE.

EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER IS THEN FREE TO VOTE IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM. WE'RE AGAIN ITEM NUMBER TWO.

CARRY ON. THANK YOU MAYOR. SO TONIGHT STAFF IS PRESENTING THIS VARIANCE REQUEST PRESENTED FOR THE HERITAGE SQUARE DENTAL PROPERTY LOCATED AT 120. SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY, NORTHWEST.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO ALLOW AN ADDITIONAL WALL SIGN ON THE EAST ELEVATION OF THEIR EXISTING BUILDING.

CURRENTLY ON THE 0.83 ACRE SITE, WHICH IS ZONED PARKWAY MIXED USE.

THERE IS A WALL SIGN FACING MALABAR ROAD. SEE IF I CAN.

IF I KNOW HOW TO OPERATE THIS, WHICH IS HERE AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING AN ADDITIONAL SIGN WHICH IS ACTUALLY ON THEIR EAST ELEVATION OF THE BUILDING, BUT IT IS ADJACENT TO A DRIVEWAY, NOT FRONTAGE ON A ROAD OR STREET, WHICH IS WHAT THE CODE REQUIRES FOR WALL SIGNAGE.

CURRENTLY THERE IS, IN ADDITION TO THE WALL SIGN, THERE IS A MONUMENT SIGN ON THE PROPERTY AS WELL.

LET'S SEE, I HAVE. I THOUGHT I HAD A A PICTURE OF THAT, BUT THERE IS A MONUMENT SIGN CLOSER TO THE ROAD.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE BEEN OUT AT THIS LOCATION RECENTLY, BUT THERE IS A MCDONALD'S NEXT TO THE SITE.

THIS IS THE NEW PUBLIX, THE NEW NORTHWEST. YES.

SO THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED IN THEIR RESPONSE TO THE VARIANCE CRITERIA THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING THE ADDITIONAL SIGN TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL VISIBILITY TO POTENTIAL CUSTOMERS FROM THE VANTAGE POINT OF THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY, NOT THE FRONTAGE OF THE STREET.

THIS CASE WAS ACTUALLY HEARD BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD, AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD VOTED TO SUPPORT THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST, ALTHOUGH STAFF HAD RECOMMENDED DENIAL JUST BASED ON THE FACT THAT THIS IS A VARIANCE TO THE CODE, WHICH IS ESTABLISHED TO PROVIDE A STANDARD FOR SIGNAGE THROUGHOUT THE CITY, NOT JUST THIS ONE SITE, WHEREBY THE FRONTAGE IS THE IDEAL PLACE LOCATION PLACEMENT FOR WALL SIGNS ON THE BUILDING.

SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS VARIANCE REQUEST, WE TAKE INTO THE UNIQUE AND UNDUE UNNECESSARY HARDSHIP BASED ON THE PROPERTY QUESTION. STAFF DETERMINED THAT THE APPLICANT DID NOT SHOW WHERE THERE WAS AN UNDUE HARDSHIP UNIQUE TO THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, AND THEIR REQUEST BEING JUST TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL VISIBILITY TO THE BUILDING FOR THEIR SPECIFIC PROPERTY WHERE SIGNAGE IS NOT ALLOWED ON THE WALL.

WITH THAT, I'LL LEAVE IT TO THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT WHAT THEY HAVE.

THE PRIMARY THING THAT WE HAVE TO STAY FOCUSED ON IS THAT WAS THERE AN UNDUE HARDSHIP FOR THIS PARTICULAR REQUEST OR REGULATION IN THE CODE STAFF'S FINDINGS WITH THAT WAS THAT THERE IS NOT.

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SO THERE'S QUITE SOME DISTANCE BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS.

AND I BELIEVE THERE IS A PLAN FOR ADDITIONAL STRUCTURES TO BE BUILT BETWEEN THE TWO.

SO EVEN IF YOU CAN'T VISUALIZE THE BUILDING OR SEE THE BUILDING FROM THE VANTAGE POINT OF THE MAIN INTERSECTION.

THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL BUILDINGS THERE AS WELL.

SO THE MCDONALD'S IS IN A UNIQUE SITUATION WHERE IT'S RIGHT AT THE INTERSECTION.

SO IT IS ABLE TO HAVE SIGNS ON BOTH WALLS. THE ONE FACING MALABAR, THE ONE FACING THE PARKWAY IN THE INSTANCE OF ANY ADDITIONAL BUILDINGS BUILT PERPENDICULAR TO THE MALABAR FRONTAGE, THEY WILL BE ALLOWED TO HAVE THE ONE WALL SIGN FACING THE FRONTAGE THAT IS. SO THE SIGN THEY'RE REQUESTING IS AT THE WALL OF THE BUILDING OR CLOSER TO THE.

SO THE SIGN IS ON THE WALL. THEY'RE PERMITTED ONE WALL SIGN PER FRONTAGE ON A STREET.

THEY ONLY HAVE ONE STREET FRONTAGE, SO THEY'RE PERMITTED ONE WALL SIGN.

THEY DO HAVE ANOTHER SIDE TO THEIR BUILDING. I DON'T KNOW HOW IT DESCRIBED THE EAST VANTAGE POINT.

IF YOU WERE LEAVING THE PUBLIX, WALKING OUT OF THE PUBLIX FRONT DOOR AND GO TO YOUR RIGHT.

SO THIS IS WHERE THAT OTHER WALL IS LOCATED. I SEE THERE, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR. THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE LOOKING TO PUT AN ADDITIONAL SIGN.

OKAY. WHICH IS THIS ELEVATION HERE. OKAY. IF THE REST OF THE PROPERTY WERE BEING SHOWN, THE PUBLIX WOULD BE TO THE RIGHT, NOT IMMEDIATELY TO THE RIGHT, BUT TO THE RIGHT.

SO SO WOULD THAT BE INDIVIDUAL BUSINESSES THAT WOULD PUT UP SIGNS OR IS IT THE ONES THIS IS THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL BUSINESSES NEXT TO THIS DENTAL CARE THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THE PUBLIC.

SO THAT'S WHERE THE SIGNS WOULD GO. THIS IS THE APPROVED SIGN FACING MALABAR.

THIS IS THE SIGN THEY'D LIKE TO HAVE APPROVED.

BUT THIS IS JUST IN THE PARKING LOT. IT'S JUST FACING THE DRIVEWAY OF THE PARKING LOT.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT THAT IS. IT'S NOT STREET FRONTAGE.

IT'S JUST SOMEWHERE IN THE PARKING LOT. IT'S FROM THE PARKING LOT.

OKAY. FOR THEM TO SEE FROM THE PARKING LOT. RIGHT.

UNDERSTOOD. OKAY. THANKS. THANK YOU. DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR PRESENTATION, MA'AM? YES. I'M TRYING TO KEEP IT BRIEF, BUT IF YOU WANT MORE INFORMATION.

NO, I DON'T THINK ANYONE ELSE HAS QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.

MA'AM. ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? COUNCIL, WE HAVE THE APPLICANT.

I HAVE A SPEAKER CARD. OKAY. CALL HIM UP, SIR.

DO WE WANT TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT FIRST? APPLICANT? YEAH, IF HE'S HERE, IS THE APPLICANT HERE? OKAY. YOU DON'T SEE ANY APPLICANT REPRESENTATION TO SPEAKER CARD.

OKAY, LET'S HEAR IT FROM THE SPEAKER THEN. BILL BATTEN.

BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

THIS IS ONE OF THOSE CASES WHERE IT MAKES SENSE FOR THE BUSINESS TO ADVERTISE, BUT IT ALSO MAKES SENSE FOR THE CITY TO HAVE GOVERNING GOVERNING POLICIES.

THAT'S WHY THE ORDINANCE SAYS YOU HAVE ONE ON THE FRONT FOR YOUR PRIMARY ENTRANCE.

UNFORTUNATELY, IT MAKES IT CONVENIENT FOR THE BUSINESS BECAUSE PEOPLE CAN SEE IT COMING UP TO WHERE THE WHERE THE DRIVEWAY IS. AND ONCE YOU'RE IN THE PARKING LOT, IT ALSO GIVES YOU THE ABILITY TO SEE WHERE THE BUSINESS IS.

ON THE NEGATIVE SIDE OF THAT, THOUGH, IS I CAN SEE, WELL, THIS BUSINESS IS ALLOWED TO DO IT ON, ON THE SIDE OF THEIR BUILDING. WELL, I HAVE ANOTHER BUSINESS OVER HERE.

I WANT TO PUT MINE ON THE SIDE OF THE BUSINESS ALSO.

SO THERE WAS A REASON WHY IT STARTED BEING REGULATED INTO JUST THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.

RIGHT. BUT COMMON SENSE FOR ADVERTISEMENT FOR THE BUSINESS.

IT JUST MAKES SENSE FOR THE PEOPLE TO SEE IT.

SO MAYBE IT NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING IN THE ORDINANCE THAT NEEDS TO GOVERN THIS FOR A COMMON SENSE APPROACH.

INSTEAD OF JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN ONLY ADVERTISE ON THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING, BUT YOU CAN'T SEE IT UNTIL YOU'VE GONE PAST THEIR DRIVEWAY.

YOU KNOW, JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. IS THAT IT FOR SPEAKER CARDS? YES, MA'AM.

OKAY. I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. NEED A MOTION? MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE VARIANCE. I'LL SECOND IT.

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DEPUTY MAYOR. THANK YOU. MAYOR. YOU KNOW, WE, AS A COUNCIL BODY, WE WE ASKED FOR A MORE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

AND THEN WE PUT A LOT OF RESTRICTIONS IN PLACE THAT MAKE IT COSTLY AND TIMELY FOR THEM TO OPEN UP A SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS.

YOU KNOW, THIS THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL IS AT THE FURTHEST WESTERN PORTION OF MALABAR ROAD, AND SO THEIR FRONTAGE IS MALABAR ROAD BEYOND SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY. THIS EASTERN ELEVATION WILL GIVE THEM EXPOSURE TO ANYBODY MAKING A RIGHT HAND TURN ONTO SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY.

SO I THINK THE CODE IS RESTRICTIVE. I THINK IT SHOULD BE MODIFIED.

I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE ADDED TO THE LIST WHEN WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. BUT I FULLY SUPPORT THIS VARIANCE.

I THINK IT DOES PUT AN UNDUE HARDSHIP ONTO THE CLIENT.

I THINK THE RESTRICTIONS PUT A HARDSHIP BECAUSE IT CAN HURT THE POTENTIAL OF THEIR ADVERTISING.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, THE, THE TRAFFIC COUNT FROM MINTON OR FROM MALABAR TO SAINT JOHN'S GOING WESTWARD IS ONE SUBDIVISION THAT'S NOT EVEN MAYBE IT'S GOT 15 HOUSES IN IT. AND SO THE, THE EXPOSURE AND THE HEAVY TRAFFIC COUNT IS ON THE ON THE EASTERN SIDE.

SO I BELIEVE THAT THE CODE DOES PUT AN UNDUE HARDSHIP, AND I.

AND I FEEL LIKE STAFF SHOULD HAVE RECOGNIZED THAT THAT HARDSHIP AND SHOULD HAVE JUST BEEN ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL IF THAT WAS ABLE TO TO HAPPEN.

SO WITH THAT, I APPROVE IT. OKAY. COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN, ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD? YEAH. I MEAN, HE HIT IT ON THE HEAD, BUT EVEN IF THE THE CODE WASN'T, YOU KNOW, A HARDSHIP ON COMMERCIAL IN GENERAL, WE STILL THERE'S NEVER A ONE SIZE FITS ALL POLICY, ESPECIALLY FOR A CITY THE SIZE OF PALM BAY.

SO AGAIN, I, AS I ALWAYS SAY, I APPRECIATE THE STAFF FOR DOING THEIR JOB AND, AND LOOKING AT THE CODE AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING THE CODE. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, SOMETIMES YOU JUST GOT TO USE A LITTLE COMMON SENSE. AND THEN THAT'S WHY IT COMES TO US. SO COMMON SENSE.

YES, SIR. THAT SOUNDS FAMILIAR. LIKE COOLERS ON THE 4TH OF JULY, SIR.

I GOT A I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN.

ALL IN FAVOR? SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER THREE, ORDINANCE 2026 DASH TEN AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE 2045 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST INTERSECTION OF SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY, NORTHWEST AND MELBOURNE TILLMAN WATER CONTROL DISTRICT, CANAL NUMBER ONE AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN FROM LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, LDR, HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL HDR, COMMERCIAL COMM AND RECREATIONAL AND OPEN SPACE ROS TO NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER, NC.

PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU. MA'AM, I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND, MR. MORTON, THANK YOU AGAIN, HONORABLE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, THIS IS A FINAL READING.

WE DO HAVE STAFF HERE TO PRESENT IF YOU'D LIKE A REFRESHER.

AND I ALSO BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS HERE AS WELL.

OKAY. MAYOR AND CITY ATTORNEY, I'D JUST LIKE TO MAKE AN ADDITIONAL COMMENT ABOUT THE QUASI JUDICIAL PORTION OF THE.

I DID ANNOUNCE AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING THAT THERE WAS SOME, SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH THE DEVELOPER'S REPRESENTATIVE AND JUST A MINOR CONVERSATION THIS LAST WEEK PRIOR TO, TO TODAY ABOUT THEIR PARTICIPATION IN THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT SERVICES OF THE WIDENING OF SAINT JOHN HERITAGE PARKWAY. AND THAT WAS THE EXTENT OF THE CONVERSATION.

THANK YOU. ALSO AFTER THE MEETING, BEFORE IT WAS PLACED ON THE AGENDA, I HAD A PHONE CALL WITH GREG FROM LENNAR WHERE HE, YOU KNOW, HE REACHED OUT ABOUT MY FEELINGS ABOUT THE ROAD NEEDING WIDENED.

AND I JUST REITERATED MY STANCE WITH HOW I FEEL ABOUT THE ROAD NEEDING TO BE WIDENED.

AND IT WAS A NICE CONVERSATION. THANK YOU. REGARDING ITEM NUMBER FOUR, SPECIFICALLY, I SPOKE TO MR. GREG PETTIBONE. OKAY. WELL, I DON'T THINK IT QUALIFIES, BUT I DO KNOW THAT THE ATTORNEY CALLED DIRECTLY TO MAKE SURE I WAS GOING TO BE AT THIS MEETING.

SO I'LL I'LL DISCLOSE THAT AS WELL. BUT THAT WAS THE EXTENT OF MY CONVERSATION.

I DID CONFIRM I WOULD BE AT THIS MEETING AS I AM AT EVERY MEETING.

MAYOR I, I WAS ON VACATION, I DIDN'T TALK TO ANYBODY.

I WAS ON VACATION TOO, BROTHER. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN.

SO, MR. MORTON. YES. YOU PRESENT THIS CASE, SIR.

STAFF WILL PRESENT IT. OKAY. WOULD YOU LIKE TO GIVE US A REFRESHER AND REPORT ON THE STATE'S COMMENTS,

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THIS IS THE SECOND READING. AFTER YOU HEARD IT, AT FIRST READING, UPON APPROVAL, WE TRANSMITTED IT TO FLORIDA COMMERCE.

THE STATE DID THEIR AGENCY REVIEWS, AND WE RECEIVED THEIR FEEDBACK ON JUNE 10TH, STATING THAT THERE ARE NO ADVERSE IMPACTS TO STATE RESOURCES. GIVEN THAT, I WILL TURN THIS OVER TO THE APPLICANT TO GIVE THEIR DETAILED PRESENTATION TONIGHT.

OKAY. COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF AT THIS TIME? NO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. APPLICANT, PLEASE STEP FORWARD.

MR. PETTIBONE, YOU COULD BRING THAT LECTERN UP, SIR, SO YOU DON'T HAVE BACK SPASMS, SIR.

YEAH. THERE YOU GO. YOU JUST. YEAH. THERE YOU GO.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YES, MA'AM. IS THAT BETTER, SIR? YES, SIR. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU ALL. I GREATLY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK IN FRONT OF YOU.

I GREATLY APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATIONS, BUT AGAIN, JUST IF I MAY BACK UP GREG PETTIBONE WITH OUR HOMES.

I GREATLY APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK, BOTH AT OUR FIRST HEARING AND THEN FOLLOW UP WE'VE HAD ON SUBSEQUENT HEARINGS FROM THE FIRST HEARING COMMENTS THAT WERE SUGGESTED YOU KNOW, WE WENT BACK, WE TRIED TO DO OUR HOMEWORK, WE REACHED BACK OUT.

WE LOOKED FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO CONTINUE TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY.

I GREATLY APPRECIATE TIME FROM A NUMBER OF YOU, MR. JAFFE WITH SPEAKING ABOUT OPPORTUNITIES TO PARTNER WITH STAFF AND CONTINUE TO WORK WITH YOUR STAFF AND THE CITY STAFF THERE WITH OPPORTUNITIES TO CRAFT AN AGREEMENT TO SEE THE PARKWAY.

I ALSO APPRECIATE FEEDBACK I'VE GOTTEN FROM OTHER MEMBERS YOU KNOW, EVEN THINGS THAT WERE SUGGESTED IN PRIOR DISCUSSIONS TRANSIT SITUATIONS YOU KNOW, BUILDING OPPORTUNITY IN THE FUTURE, SHOULD A LARGER MASS TRANSIT SITUATION COME ONTO PLAY OPPORTUNITIES FOR BUS SHELTERS FOR CHILDREN. JUST AN EXPANDED PACKAGE WITH THAT THAT WE WE REMAIN COMMITTED TO INCORPORATING INTO THE PROJECT.

WE STAND BEHIND OUR, OUR PRIOR TERM SHEETS AND AGAIN, WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO EVEN EXPAND THAT INTO A DIFFERENT ROLE THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WITH, WITH STAFF. AND AGAIN, WE REMAIN READY TO BE PARTNERS WITH THE CITY AND ARE HERE TO HAPPILY REPRESENT ANYTHING OF SUBSTANCE OR ANY QUESTIONS THAT ANYBODY MAY HAVE.

AGAIN JUST THANKFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY AND APPRECIATIVE TO YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO, TO OPERATE WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I'LL BRING THIS DOWN.

GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. MAYOR MEDINA.

GREAT TO SEE YOU ALL AGAIN. MY NAME IS LEAH HEINZELMANN WITH KOTLER AND HEARING HERE ON BEHALF OF LENNAR FOR EVELYN'S WEST.

WE'RE HAPPY TO BE HERE TONIGHT FOR THE SECOND READING, AND I WILL NOT GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE PRESENTATION AGAIN.

WE MIGHT SKIP THROUGH A COUPLE SLIDES. I KNOW YOU ALL WANT TO SEE IT AGAIN, BUT I DID WANT TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW OF THE KEY FACTORS AND THINGS THAT WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO BRING FORWARD WITH EVELYN'S. SO AGAIN, OUR GREAT TEAM, EVERYONE IS HERE TONIGHT.

ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. AND AGAIN, JUST A QUICK RECAP.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF PACE DRIVE AND SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY, PLACING IT ALONG A KEY NORTH SOUTH CORRIDOR WITHIN THE CITY.

SO BOTH THE EXISTING AND PROPOSED FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS ALLOW FOR SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER RESIDENTIAL DENSITIES THAN WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED WITH THIS COMMUNITY.

BUT EVEN WITH THE FLEXIBILITY, THIS PROJECT IS BEING DESIGNED AT JUST A LOW OVERALL DENSITY OF 1.96 DWELLING UNITS AN ACRE.

IN ADDITION, THE PLAN PRESERVES OVER 310 ACRES OF WETLANDS AND CONSERVATION AREAS, HELPING MAINTAIN THAT NATURAL CHARACTER OF THE SITE AND THE WESTERN EDGE OF PALM BAY.

AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE ALL OF THE WORK THAT STAFF'S BEEN GOING OVER WITH US.

AND THEN AGAIN, JUST WANTED TO REMIND THE BOARD THAT THE OVERALL PALM VISTA EVERGLADES COMMUNITY WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED FOR UP TO 4000 RESIDENTIAL UNITS, AND THIS REQUEST IS NOT SEEKING TO INCREASE THAT APPROVED DENSITY.

THE PROPOSED FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENT AND REZONING MAINTAIN THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT ALLOWANCE FOR EVELYN'S WEST.

THE PRIMARY PURPOSE OF THESE REQUESTS IS TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL FLEXIBILITY IN THE DESIGN AND LAYOUT OF THE COMMUNITY, ALLOWING THE TEAM TO BETTER CLUSTER THE HOME SITES, ENHANCE AMENITIES AND OPEN SPACE, AND PRESERVE THE SITE'S EXISTING WETLANDS AND NATURAL FEATURES, HELPING TO REALLY MAKE A WONDERFUL SITE FOR FUTURE AND EXISTING RESIDENTS.

SO CURRENTLY, THIS SITE INCLUDES A MIX OF LAND USE DESIGNATIONS.

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AND THEN THE EXISTING ZONING IS BREVARD COUNTY AGRICULTURAL RESIDENTIAL, AND WE ARE PROPOSING A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT WITH THE PROPOSED PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN. AGAIN, THE PUD ALLOWS US TO DESIGN THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE, INTEGRATING RESIDENTIAL OPEN SPACE AMENITIES AND NONRESIDENTIAL UNITS.

SO AGAIN, WE ARE MAXED AT 2360 RESIDENTIAL HOMES, 1.96 DWELLING UNITS AN ACRE, WELL BELOW WHAT COULD BE ALLOWED WITH THE LAND USE.

I'M JUST GOING TO GO THROUGH A COUPLE OF THESE HISTORY SLIDES.

SO TO DATE, LENNAR HAS MADE SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENTS IN INFRASTRUCTURE THAT BENEFIT BOTH THE PROJECT AND THE SURROUNDING AREA.

AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN, HERE ARE THE SPECIFIC BENEFITS TO DATE.

60 ACRES OF RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION AND IMPLEMENTATION.

THREE AND A HALF MILES OF WATER LINE. THREE AND A HALF MILES OF FORCE MAIN.

A COMBINED TOTAL OF OVER $7 MILLION OF INFRASTRUCTURE.

FIRE PROTECTION FOR EXISTING CITY RESIDENTS AND IMPROVED WATER QUALITY.

FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT EXTENSION FOR THE FUTURE.

EMERSON. SIGNAL. AND FINALLY, THE ADDED IMPACT FEES OF BERLIN'S EAST, BRINGING IN ABOUT $24 MILLION.

AND AGAIN, WE WENT OVER THIS LAST TIME. SO I'LL QUICKLY GO THROUGH A COUPLE OF THESE SLIDES.

BUT HERE YOU CAN SEE MORE THAN 40% OF THE SITE IS FOCUSED AROUND THE EXISTING WETLANDS AND PRESERVE AREAS, CREATING AND MAINTAINING IMPORTANT HABITATS WHILE DESIGNING A COMMUNITY THAT'S FOCUSED AROUND THE NATURE OF THE CITY.

AT THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT STAGE, THE ROADWAY NETWORK AND LOT AREAS HAVE BEEN DESIGNED, BUT AGAIN, WE'LL BE BACK FOR THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT, WITH THE FORMAL LOT LAYOUTS AND INTEGRATION OF ALL THE AMENITY AREAS.

SO AGAIN, HERE'S JUST AN IDEA OF WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

VERY ORIENTED AROUND FAMILY AND COMMUNITY LIFESTYLE, PROVIDING DIFFERENT AMENITY AREAS AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR ACTIVE AND PASSIVE USES.

HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF ALL OF THE DIFFERENT TRAIL NETWORKS AND CONNECTIONS.

HERE ARE SOME PROPOSED SITE FEATURES. AGAIN, SIX AND A HALF MILES OF WALKING TRAILS AND OTHER ACTIVE ADULT ITEMS. SOME EXAMPLES OF MARKERS AND EDUCATIONAL MATERIALS THAT COULD BE ON THE SITE.

EXAMPLES OF SOME OF THE LOT LAYOUTS. HERE WE CAN SEE THE BEAUTIFUL HOMES AND EXAMPLES.

AND THEN AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED, THERE'S GOING TO BE 140 ZERO ZERO ZERO SQUARE FEET OF NON RESIDENTIAL USES.

SO AGAIN THESE ARE INTENDED TO SERVE THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY MAY INCLUDE RETAIL OFFICE INSTITUTIONAL AND CIVIC USES.

A SLIDE HERE, BUT AS FAR AS SOME OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY GOES FOR THE POLICE, WE DO HAVE CONTRIBUTING IMPACT FEES FOR CONTINUED INVESTMENT. AND THEN AS YOU CAN SEE ON SCREEN, FIRE PROTECTION IS PROVIDED BY MULTIPLE NEARBY STATIONS.

AGAIN, THERE'S ALSO FUTURE STATION BEING PLANNED CLOSER TO THE SITE WHICH WILL FURTHER ENHANCE THE COVERAGE.

AND THEN AGAIN, I'M NOT GOING TO READ ALL OF THIS, BUT WE ARE MEETING ALL THE UTILITY CAPACITIES.

WE ARE ALSO MEETING THE CAPACITIES FOR THE DIFFERENT SCHOOLS.

A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS HAS BEEN PROVIDED ALONG WITH SIGNAL WARRANT STUDIES AT KEY INTERSECTIONS, SHOWING ITS COMPLIANCE PROJECT REPRESENTS A STRONG FINANCIAL BENEFIT TO THE CITY, AS SHOWN ON THE SCREEN.

LEONARD'S EXISTING PROJECTS WITHIN PALM BAY HAVE ALREADY CONTRIBUTED OVER $23.8 MILLION.

AND THEN, AS SHOWN EARLIER, LEONARD HAS HELPED FUND THE IMPROVEMENTS AND INSTALLATION OF SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY, EMERSON DRIVE AND PACE DRIVE CONNECTIONS, ALONG WITH OVER SEVEN MILES OF UTILITY MAINS AND EXTENSIONS FOR THE FPL TO EMERSON DRIVE FOR FUTURE SIGNALS.

AND THEN AGAIN, THIS PROJECT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT, AND REPRESENTS THE FINAL STAGE OF A LONG STANDING COMMUNITY VISION.

IT PROVIDES MEANINGFUL PUBLIC BENEFITS INCLUDING INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS, ENVIRONMENTAL PRESERVATION, AND ECONOMIC CONTRIBUTION TO THE CITY. SO AFTER AGAIN CONTINUED COORDINATION AND CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF IN THE VARIOUS CITY DEPARTMENTS, LEONARD HAS AGREED TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL PUBLIC BENEFITS ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROJECT.

SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THE POLICE SERVICES. LEONARD HAS AGREED TO PROVIDE A FULL UPFRONT, PROPORTIONATE SHARE PAYMENT FOR THE OVERALL PROJECT.

FOLLOWING APPROVAL OF THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR PHASE ONE TOTALING APPROXIMATELY $56,000.

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AGAIN, AT THIS TIME, PHASE ONE IS ANTICIPATED TO MOVE FORWARD IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF 2027, PHASE TWO IN THE SPRING OF 2027. SIMILARLY, AFTER FURTHER COORDINATION WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND CITY STAFF, LENNAR HAS ALSO AGREED TO ADDITIONAL CONTRIBUTIONS TOWARD FIRE PROTECTION SERVICES FOR THE PROJECT AND SURROUNDING AREAS, INCLUDING A 1.7 MILE, 1.75 MILLION TOWARD A NEW QUINT TRUCK ANTICIPATED HOPEFULLY IN END OF 2026 EARLY 2027.

AGAIN, THESE WILL BE AT THE TIME OF THE PHASE ONE FTT APPROVAL.

SO FIRST QUARTER OF 2027, SECOND PHASE SPRING 2027.

AND THEN REGARDING TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS, TRAFFIC IMPACT FEES PAYMENTS REQUIRED FOR THE PROJECTS.

PROPORTIONATE FAIR SHARE MITIGATION WILL ALSO BE PAID IN FULL FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL PHASE UPON APPROVAL OF THE CORRESPONDING FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

I KNOW AGAIN, WE WENT OVER THIS LAST TIME, BUT THERE'S BEEN GREAT DISCUSSION WITH THE CITY REGARDING OPPORTUNITIES FOR ADDITIONAL PUBLIC ART CONTRIBUTIONS AND COMMUNITY ENHANCEMENTS AS SHOWN ON THE SCREEN. THE DISCUSSION AROUND THE POTENTIAL GEORGE WASHINGTON MONUMENT.

LEONARD IS EXCITED TO SUPPORT AND CONTRIBUTE TOWARD THIS. AND THEN FINALLY, THE ANOTHER ADDITIONAL PUBLIC BENEFIT LEONARD IS PROPOSING TO BRING TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY IS THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROPOSED PICKLEBALL COURT COMPLEX AT FRED POPE REGIONAL PARK.

THE IMPROVEMENT IS ANTICIPATED TO TIE IN TO IMPACT FEE CREDITS ASSOCIATED WITH PHASE ONE OF THE FDP.

SO WE APPRECIATE THE CONTINUED COORDINATION AND GUIDANCE FROM STAFF THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING THAT COLLABORATION.

AND WE ARE AT THAT JULY 2ND READING, AS YOU CAN SEE, AND THE TEAM ANTICIPATES BRINGING FORWARD THE FINAL PHASE ONE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD IN NOVEMBER, FOLLOWED BY TWO CITY COUNCIL READINGS CURRENTLY ANTICIPATED IN DECEMBER AND JANUARY OF 2027. SO AGAIN, AS SECOND READING, WE THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, AND WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU. I DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL HAS.

THEY WOULD BE BUZZING IN ON ME. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, MA'AM.

WHO'S NEXT? ANYONE ELSE ON YOUR TEAM? NEXT? MR. PETTIBONE. AGAIN, WE WE STAND READY FOR FOR ANY ANY FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS? ANY ANYTHING AGAIN. SO, YOU KNOW, SO I'LL TURN IT OFF TO THE AUDIENCE THEN.

AND THEN. THANK YOU. WE'LL GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO.

WELL, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON MAY HAVE A QUESTION.

WELL, YEAH, THIS THIS QUESTION MAY BE FOR MR. PETTIBONE OR DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE. I MEAN, I HEARD DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE MENTIONED THE CONVERSATIONS THEY WERE HAVING REGARDING THE WIDENING OF SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY.

IF YOU OR THE APPLICANT CAN SPEAK ON THAT OF WHAT NEGOTIATIONS OR WHAT YOU WERE LOOKING AT OR.

YEAH. SO, YOU KNOW, I, I PROPOSED THAT IDEA AT THE, AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING BEFORE WE WENT ON RECESS.

AND I WASN'T A PART OF, I JUST GAVE THE HIGH LEVEL 10,000 PICTURE VIEW, I BELIEVE MR. MORTON, OR MAYBE MR. DILORENZO CAN SPEAK FURTHER OF WHAT THE WHAT THOSE DEEPER CONVERSATIONS HAVE LOOKED LIKE.

OKAY. SO IF THEY COULD YOUR QUESTION TO MR. MORTON OR MR..

MR. MORTON OR MR. DILORENZO. MR. DE LORENZO THANK YOU SIR.

MAYOR, I WAS GOING TO LET THE APPLICANT DO IT, MA'AM.

IF THE WIDENING, WHICH I DO NOT BELIEVE IS CERTAINLY IS PART OF THE LAND USE, WHICH IT TYPICALLY ISN'T.

IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO FURTHER DISCUSS THIS. THIS MAY BE A CONDITION THAT'S ON MAYBE THE ZONING, BUT I JUST DON'T WANT TO MUDDY MY RECORD. IF THIS ISN'T PART OF WHY WE'RE GOING TO WHAT WE'RE CONSIDERING FOR THEIR LAND USE.

I WAS JUST HAVING A CONVERSATION. I KNOW, BUT I'VE GOT MY RECORD HERE AND I REALLY WANTED IT TO BE RIGHT.

YES, MA'AM. UNDERSTOOD. UNDERSTOOD. SO SAVE THAT.

YEAH, I'LL SAVE FOR IT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

SO I GUESS MY QUESTION FOR MR. I'LL SPEAK BECAUSE WE SPOKE ON THE PHONE THE OTHER DAY AND ONE THING WE SAW EARLIER, THE, THE YOUNG LADIES FROM THE EVANS CENTER COME AND SPEAK.

AND THE CITY PROVIDED A, A FACILITY FOR A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION TO UTILIZE.

AND WHAT WE HAD SPOKEN ABOUT, SIR, WHICH I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO HEAR YOUR, YOUR TAKE IN REGARDS TO UTILIZING AN AREA IN THAT, IN YOUR PROJECT FOR AN ORGANIZATION OR FOR. WE DON'T HAVE PAL ANYMORE, AND PEOPLE KEEP COMING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT THE YOUTH NOT HAVING ANYTHING TO DO OR PEOPLE HAVING NOWHERE TO CONGREGATE.

WE'VE HEARD FROM YOUNG PEOPLE SPEAK IN PUBLIC COMMENTS AS WELL.

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ABSOLUTELY. AND FOLLOWING OUR DISCUSSION, SIR.

I WAS ABLE TO SECURE APPROVAL FROM MY, MY MANAGEMENT LEADERSHIP TEAM TO OFFER, I BELIEVE IT'S JUST A LITTLE UNDER TWO ACRES.

IT'S A PROPERTY AT THE IT'S APPROXIMATE. IT'S THE CLOSEST PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WE HAVE TO THE SOUTH WEST CORNER OF EMERSON AND THE PARKWAY.

IT WOULD BE ACCESSIBLE FROM FROM EMERSON. IT'S BEING BUILT NOW BY THE DEVELOPER THAT'S BUILDING THAT.

AND WE WOULD CONTINUE THAT TO THE WEST, BUT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT A CIVIC DONATION TO THE CITY FOR USE.

HOWEVER, HOWEVER, CITY LEADERSHIP FEELS THAT THEY NEED THAT.

SO WE'D BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE THAT. AND I DID GET APPROVAL TO COMMIT TO THAT.

THANK YOU. OKAY. AND THANK YOU FOR THAT SUGGESTION, SIR.

THANK YOU. SO RIGHT NOW, I WANT TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC, UNLESS THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL ANY ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? YES, SIR. PLEASE STEP FORWARD. GOOD EVENING.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS MARK GOODMAN. 2672 PERALTA DRIVE, SOUTHEAST PALM BAY.

I WANTED TO COME HERE TONIGHT AS A RESIDENT OF PALM BAY IN SUPPORT OF THE PROPOSED LAND USE CHANGE TO HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

APPROVAL OF THIS ORDINANCE WILL DOVETAIL TO THE APPROVAL OF THE SUBSEQUENT ORDINANCE IN THIS EVENING'S AGENDA APPROVING THE EXPANSION OF THE PALM VISTA TIMBER'S RIVERWOOD DEVELOPMENT ON SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY.

AS A LONG TIME MEMBER OF THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, STRATEGIC GROWTH HELPS SUSTAIN OUR INDUSTRY AND THE ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND IMPACT FEES WILL ONLY CONTRIBUTE AND ACCELERATE THE PLANNED EXPANSION OF THE BALANCE OF SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY, HELPING TO ALLEVIATE TRAFFIC CONGESTION AND WILL FURTHER HELP THE LOCAL COMMUNITY WITH EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES AND FUTURE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT INTERESTS, FURTHER INCREASING THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL OF THE LOCAL RESIDENTS.

I ASK THAT YOU VOTE FOR APPROVAL TO ALLOW FOR THIS PROJECT TO MOVE FORWARD.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? YES, MA'AM. PLEASE STEP FORWARD. AND ANYONE ELSE, PLEASE.

BY SHOW OF HANDS THAT WISHES TO SPEAK. ALRIGHT.

YOU'RE NEXT. THANK YOU. ONE AND TWO. ONE. 2123.

HI, I'M KELLY. I'M AT FIVE FOUR, THREE ESCAROLE STREET.

MA'AM, CAN YOU DRAW THE MIC A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO YOU? THANK YOU. I DIDN'T REALIZE HOW SHORT I WAS. I'M KELLY.

I LIVE AT FIVE, FOUR, THREE ESCAROLE STREET. I REALLY LIKE THE DESIGNS OF THIS PROJECT.

THE FACT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PRESERVE SO MANY WETLANDS AND THAT IT'S ALL ONE WETLAND, I THINK IS REALLY AMAZING.

I SEE A LOT OF COMMUNITIES WHERE YOU JUST HAVE LIKE, LITTLE POCKET WETLANDS, AND I FEEL LIKE THIS IS GOING TO GIVE SO MUCH MORE SPACE FOR NATIVE SPECIES TO THRIVE. I ALSO WAS REALLY EXCITED TO HEAR ABOUT ALL OF THE OFF SITE STUFF THAT THEY WANT TO DO FOR OUR COMMUNITIES, LIKE EXPANDING THE PARKWAY, BUT ALSO THE PICKLEBALL COURT.

I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE GREAT AT POPPY AND THE FACT THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO DONATE SOME OF THEIR LAND TO GIVE US SOME EXTRA SPACE TO DO STUFF.

I LOVE IT SO. I WANT YOU GUYS TO VOTE FOR IT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER.

YOU GUYS CAN COME UP. SIT UP CLOSER IF YOU LIKE.

I LIVE IN 1446 CIRCLE. I MOVED FROM SOUTH FLORIDA TO PALM BAY FOR OPPORTUNITY.

I LIKE WHAT THIS COMMUNITY IS GROWING AND IT'S GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY.

FOR MY FAMILY, I MOVED, I MOVED HERE FOR GROWING.

I LIKE HOW THIS WORK, THIS COMMUNITY GOING THERE.

SO THAT'S GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERYBODY TO MAKE IT MORE WORK TO US, EVERYBODY.

OUR LANDSCAPING BUSINESS. SO THAT'S HOW I SEE A LOT OF THINGS GROWING.

THAT'S WHY I'M MOVING HERE. MY FAMILY. GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO MY FAMILY AND BETTER SCHOOL HERE.

I COME IN COME FROM WEST PALM BEACH, FLORIDA.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT, SPEAKER, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

YEAH, I'M I'M MIGUEL MORALES AND I LIVE IN 1465 DIABLO CIRCLE.

AND I THINK THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO BRING A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY.

ALSO THE TAX REVENUE THING IS GOING TO HELP EVERYONE TO, YOU KNOW, DEVELOP THE CITY.

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YOU KNOW, MOSTLY YOU GUYS KNOW WHERE THE CITY NEEDS MORE ATTENTION.

SO I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE A BIG OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERYONE, FOR THE CITY, FOR US.

AND I JUST, I JUST SUPPORT THE PROJECT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. WELL, YOU COULD BRING THAT ONE UP, BUDDY.

WOULD YOU HELP HIM, MISS? OH, THERE YOU GO. OUTSTANDING.

IT'S OKAY. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCILORS. MY NAME IS FRANKLIN CHAVEZ.

I LIVE IN 1446 DIABLO CIRCLE, SOUTHWEST. SO JUST ADDING A LITTLE BIT MORE.

I HAVE COME HERE FOR THREE YEARS AGO. I HAVE LIVED HERE IN THIS IN THIS CITY.

SO I THINK THAT GROWTH BRINGS A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY FOR YOUNG PEOPLE, THAT WE ARE ENTREPRENEURS.

WE ARE BUILDING OUR OWN COMPANIES. I HAVE A COMPANY THAT IS CONSULTING.

SO WE OFFER A LOT OF BOOKKEEPING, ACCOUNTING AND PAYROLL.

SO THAT BRINGS A LOT OF COMPANY HERE THAT IS GOING TO NEED THOSE SERVICES.

SO FOR ME, IT'S A BIG OPPORTUNITY AND I'M GOING TO TAKE IT.

AND ALSO I'M A POOR MAN. SO FOR ME IT'S ALSO ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE EVERYTHING CLOSED.

SOMETIMES I HAVE TO, TO DRIVE LIKE 30 MINUTES TO GO TO VIERA AND PLAY SOME BASEBALL OR HAVE TO GO TO THE UNIVERSITY.

ADJUSTED AND DAVIS TO PLAY VOLLEYBALL. SO SOMETIMES TAKE A LOT OF TIME FOR ME, BUT IT'S GOOD TO HAVE EVERYTHING CLOSER.

SO WHEN THE CITY IS GROWING, EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE CLOSER TO ME AND ALL THE FAMILIES.

AND I THINK FOR YOU TOO. SO THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? MR. PETTIBONE, WOULD YOU WANT TO ADDRESS US AGAIN OR.

ONLY IF NEED NEED BE. AGAIN. WE DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

AND THANK YOU ALL. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK? DID YOU RAISE YOUR HAND? OH, NO. OKAY. CARRY ON.

SIR. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, SO NO ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS.

I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION.

I NEED A MOTION. MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 2026 DASH TEN.

GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE. SECONDED BY.

I'LL SECOND IT BY COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? NO. MAYOR SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR. SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL OPPOSED SIGNIFY BY SAYING NAY. NAY. I LIKE A ROLL CALL.

DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE. AYE. COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON.

AYE. COUNCILMAN. HAMMER. NAY. COUNCILMAN. LANGEVIN.

AYE. MAYOR. MEDINA. AYE. PASSES 4 TO 1. WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR, MADAM SMITH.

ORDINANCE 2026-11. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, APPROVING A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO BE KNOWN AS PALM VISTA EVELYN'S WEST AND PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT.

PUD ZONING. WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST INTERSECTION OF SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY, NORTHWEST AND MELBOURNE TILLMAN WATER CONTROL DISTRICT, CANAL NUMBER ONE AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR A COMMENCEMENT PERIOD, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND, MR. MORTON, DID YOU WANT TO COME BACK? YES.

PLEASE GIVE ME AN UPDATE IF THERE'S ANY. AND OBVIOUSLY THE APPLICANT IS HERE ALSO.

YES. GOOD EVENING. ONCE AGAIN. SO THIS IS THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

BASICALLY THE SECOND STEPS TO THIS WILL BE THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN WHICH THE APPLICANT SHOWED YOU THEIR PROPOSED SCHEDULE TO COME BACK AND PRESENT THAT TO YOU.

I BELIEVE IT WAS IN NOVEMBER WITH THE FINAL READING IN JANUARY OF 2027.

AGAIN, THIS IS THE SECOND READING AND I HAVE NOTHING FURTHER.

THANK YOU. DOES THE APPLICANT WISH TO SAY ANYTHING OR.

I LOOKED OVER THERE LOOKING FOR MISS ROSEANNE, AND SHE PLAYS MUSICAL CHAIRS WITH ME.

GOOD EVENING MAYOR, MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS KIM REZANKA WITH LACEY REZANKA IN MELBOURNE, FLORIDA. WE'RE HERE TO ASK FOR APPROVAL OF THE PDP.

WITH ALL THE CONDITIONS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED, WITH ALL OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN OFFERED, AND WE WOULD INCORPORATE OUR PRIOR PRESENTATION INTO THIS PRESENTATION. SO WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT AGAIN, IF YOU'D LIKE US TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THE IMPROVEMENTS WE'VE OFFERED.

WE CAN PUT THAT SLIDE BACK UP. I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BEEN, I THINK IT'S ON A TERM SHEET IN YOUR.

YES. SO YOU CAN INCORPORATE THOSE INTO ANY MOTIONS IF YOU SHOULD CHOOSE TO APPROVE THIS AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

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OKAY. YES. AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH INCORPORATING. I JUST DON'T LIKE THE MERGER. OKAY. SO SHE'S FINE. CARRY ON.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE, BECAUSE INCORPORATING OUR PRESENTATION, WE'D LIKE TO INCORPORATE ALSO THE PUBLIC COMMENTS, ALTHOUGH THEY WEREN'T FOR THIS PARTICULAR HEARING. AND WE DO HAVE THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER. WE DO HAVE THE TRAFFIC WARRANT STUDIES. IF YOU HAVE ANY PARTICULAR QUESTIONS RELATED TO THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WE CAN ANSWER THOSE. SO WE DO.

IT APPEARS WE DO HAVE A QUESTION. COUNCILMAN.

JOHNSON. IT'S FOR MR. DE LORENZO DE LORENZO. GOOD EVENING MAYOR.

CITY COUNCIL. SO FOLLOWING UP ON THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING WHERE DEPUTY MAYOR SUGGESTED THAT MAYBE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO TO DO A CONTRACT CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT TO BUILD THE WIDENING OF THE PARKWAY.

MR. PETTIBONE AND I HAD A CONVERSATION TO INDICATE THAT STAFF WAS IN FAVOR OF THAT IF THAT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY.

AND I THINK MR. PETTIBONE CAN GIVE YOU THE PARTICULARS OF OUR CONVERSATION SINCE IT'S HIS OFFER.

BUT I WILL TELL YOU FROM WHERE WE ARE ON IN THE DESIGN FOR THE PROJECT, WE ARE OVER 60% DESIGN FROM THE ROUNDABOUT ALL THE WAY TO THE COUNTY LINE. WE ANTICIPATE WE'RE DOING SOME CHANGE ORDERS NOW THAT THIS LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD QUICKER THAN THAN ORIGINALLY SUGGESTED. WE HAVE A COUPLE CHANGE ORDERS IN WITH OUR DESIGN CONSULTANT TO TURN THESE INTO CONSTRUCTION PLANS.

AND WE HAVE A DEADLINE WITH THEM OF JULY OF 2027 TO HAVE 100% PLANS.

WE ALSO ANTICIPATE WE'LL HAVE ALL OF THE IMPACT FEE FUNDING WE'LL NEED FOR THE PROJECT TO, FOR WITH THE PREPAYMENTS THAT THEY'RE SUGGESTING IN PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO.

AND THEN THE IMPACT FEES THAT WE'VE ALREADY COLLECTED AND ANTICIPATE COLLECTING OVER THE NEXT YEAR, WE'LL HAVE THE FUNDING TO TO CLOSE THAT GAP AND CONSTRUCT THE WIDENING OF THE PARKWAY.

OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. DILORENZO. TWO FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS.

ONE WITH THIS WITH WITH THE WIDENING, BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE WIDENING OF THE FULL SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY AT THIS TIME.

ARE THERE ANY CONCERNS OF BOTTLENECK ISSUES? WE YEAH.

THE, YOUR ADMINISTRATIVE ADMINISTRATION TEAM MEETS WITH THE COUNTY QUARTERLY AND WE HAVE HAD THIS CONVERSATION WITH THEM THAT WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS AND TO PUT THEM ON NOTICE THAT AT LEAST THEY SHOULD KNOW THAT WE ARE MOVING FORWARD.

YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE TO WORK THROUGH THAT, THROUGH THAT YOU KNOW, THROUGH THEIR PROCESS.

WELL, AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALSO ENGAGED CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CENTRAL FLORIDA EXPRESSWAY AUTHORITY ON THE OPPORTUNITY THAT THAT COULD LEAD TO.

AND THE CITY MANAGER TOUCHED ON HOW THE COUNTY HAS REACTED THAT TO THAT POSITIVELY AND THAT WE CONTINUE TO MOVE THAT FORWARD, WHICH COULD BE THE SOLUTION FOR THAT NORTHERN PIECE FROM THE COUNTY LINE GOING NORTH.

OKAY. AND THEN JUST FINDING THAT CONGRUENCE, FINDING THAT CONGRUENCE TO SEE IF WE CAN GET BOTH TO ALIGN AT THE SAME TIME AND YES, MAKE IT SO. OKAY, SO WE'RE JUST KEEPING OUR FINGER ON THE PULSE WITH THAT WITH THE COUNTY. YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. OKAY.

FOLLOW UP. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. YOU'RE WELCOME. FOLLOW UP QUESTION FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY.

OH, SORRY FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY. DOES THERE NEED TO BE A SPECIFIC PROCESS REGARDING THIS BEING THAT TYPICALLY THIS WILL BE LIKE A PROCUREMENT MATTER? I JUST WANT TO I LOVE THE FACT THAT THIS COULD BE DONE BY A PRIVATE DEVELOPER FOR MUCH CHEAPER AND POSSIBLY. WELL, MOST CERTAINLY QUICKER AS WELL.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE FROM THE LEGAL STANDPOINT, ARE THERE ANY CONCERNS ON THERE? THIS OF COURSE IS VERY PRELIMINARY DISCUSSIONS AND IT'S JUST BEEN WITH MANAGEMENT AND THE APPLICANT, NOT, OF COURSE RELATED DIRECTLY TO THE APPROVALS THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING TONIGHT.

I AM CERTAIN THAT MANAGEMENT WILL LOOP IN MY OFFICE, AS WELL AS THE INTERIM PROCUREMENT OFFICER AT THIS POINT, BECAUSE DISCUSSIONS HAVE BEEN SUCH PRELIMINARY.

WE ARE NOT INVOLVED, AND I CAN'T REALLY COMMENT BECAUSE I KNOW VERY LITTLE OTHER THAN WHAT HAS BEEN SAID TODAY.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I'M GOOD. MAYOR THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR. THANK YOU. OH THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. YEAH. YOU KNOW, I HONESTLY THOUGHT THAT THE DRAWINGS WERE FURTHER ALONG IN HEARING THAT THEY'RE 60% AND WILL TRIGGER A RELEASE FOR CHANGE ORDERS TO CONSTRUCTION PHASE. LIKE, I'D HATE TO EXPAND THE ASK, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO EVERYBODY IS, IS, IS TO ALLOW LENNAR TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PRE-CONSTRUCTION DISCUSSIONS AS WELL, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T OVER DESIGN A ROAD AND HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE PROFESSIONALS, CONTRACTORS INPUT ON SOME POTENTIAL LIKE V E CONVERSATIONS.

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I THINK IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL. WE'D BE HAPPY TO PARTICIPATE IN THOSE DISCUSSIONS, MEETINGS AND ANY ANY RESOURCES WE COULD BRING IN TERMS OF VALUE ENGINEERING, COSTING, HELPING TO WORK WITH STAFF ON, ON ANY A PART OF THAT.

OUTSTANDING SPEAKER CARDS. KELLY IS. KELLY. I BELIEVE SHE LEFT.

OH. DID THEY SPEAK? SO THEY THEY SUBMIT A SPEAKER CARDS FOR THREE AND FOUR.

WE CALLED THEM UP FOR THREE. BUT THEY THEY STILL WROTE CARDS FOR FOUR SO I THINK. OKAY. SO CALL THEM ANYWAY JUST IN CASE KELLY HAS ONE.

YEAH. FRANKLIN CHAVEZ, JAVIER. URBINA, MIGUEL.

MORALES, MARK. GOODMAN, MARK. GOODMAN. HE LEFT.

ALL RIGHT. OKAY. DO YOU WISH TO SAY ANYTHING? CONCLUDING REMARKS, SIR, BEFORE I CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING OTHER THAN JUST THE.

THANKS FOR EVERYBODY ON THE BOARD FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TO OUR PROJECT.

FOR THE DIALOG, WE. WE SHARE SO MANY OF THE. THE SAME CONCERNS THAT YOU HAVE AND THAT THE RESIDENTS HAVE AS WELL.

WHETHER IT'S TRAFFIC THE YOUNG LADY SPEAKING ABOUT WILDLIFE AND THOSE ELEMENTS.

I MEAN, WE'VE, WE'VE REALLY TRIED VERY HARD, PARTICULARLY WITH THIS PHASE OF THE COMMUNITY TO JUST CREATE SOMETHING QUITE SPECIAL, WHETHER IT'S JUST SIGNIFICANT PRESERVATION OF WETLANDS, WHETHER IT'S PARTNERING WITH YOU GUYS FOR THE CIVIC PARCEL FOR ROADWAY CONSTRUCTION JUST DIFFERENT PARTS AND PIECES THAT WE THINK ARE MAJOR ADDITIONS TO THE CITY.

SO WE'RE HERE FOR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, BUT WE THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.

BYE. WELL, I THINK COUNCILMAN JOHNSON'S GOT A QUESTION.

NOT. NOT NECESSARILY FOR MR. GRIGGS. FIRST OF ALL, SIR, I APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION.

LIKE I SAID, WE HAD. AND TO YOUR POINT, MAYOR I DON'T THINK WE'VE SEEN AN APPLICANT LIKE DOT THE I'S AND CROSS THE T'S LIKE THIS SINCE.

EVER. YEAH, YEAH, I, SO I ATTEST TO THAT. BACK TO MADAM SMITH.

SO YEAH, OKAY, I'VE GOT ANOTHER, YOU HAVE ANOTHER CARD.

ALL RIGHT. THEY CAN GO FIRST. GO FIRST, GATHER YOUR THOUGHTS.

WE HAD A WE HAD A LATE SUBMISSION. MR. STICE, WOULD YOU.

MR. STICE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO. YOU'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY, MR. PETTIBONE, TO COME BACK UP. ROBERT STEIN, 1796 DRIVE.

THANKS FOR LETTING ME GET THIS IN. I'M JUST CURIOUS ON THE 760 MULTIFAMILY UNITS, ARE THEY APARTMENTS? AND IF THEY'RE APARTMENTS, HOW MANY APARTMENTS ARE GOING IN THERE? JUST CURIOUS. THANK YOU. DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR COMMENT, SIR? OKAY. MR. PETTIBONE. SO THE ANSWER TO THAT IS WE, WE DON'T WE'RE NOT AN APARTMENT BUILDER.

I THINK YOU KNOW, IT'S A LARGE PIECE OF PROPERTY.

IT'LL BE BUILT OVER PROBABLY A DECADE OR MORE.

I DON'T SEE US DOING THAT. BUT AGAIN, WE, THERE IS A MULTIFAMILY PROPERTY THAT WAS UNDEVELOPED ON THE EAST SIDE.

WE'VE NOT DONE ANYTHING WITH IT FOR EIGHT YEARS.

I BELIEVE ALSO, AND I'D HAVE TO TALK TO MY, MY TEAM.

I THINK THAT THE MULTIFAMILY DESIGNATION INCLUDES TOWNHOMES, UNLESS I'M MISTAKEN.

SO THERE WOULD BE SOME TOWNHOMES. I'M NOT CERTAIN IF IT INCLUDES LIKE A TRIPLEX.

I BELIEVE IT DOES AS WELL. BUT WE DO HAVE A DIVERSITY OF PRODUCT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT I THINK THE MULTIFAMILY DESIGNATION IS PRIMARILY DERIVED FROM A STANDARD TOWNHOME VERSUS A, A PLAN. WE DID AT ONE POINT CONTEMPLATE SOMETHING THAT WAS SOME HEIGHT PERHAPS TO, YOU KNOW, TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SOME OF THE VISTAS, BUT WE JUST WE'RE NOT SURE THAT THAT'S THE MARKET AT PRESENT.

I APPRECIATE IT, SIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I'M NEEDING A MOTION.

I'LL GO AHEAD AND SECOND IT. I NEED A MOTION.

MOTION TO APPROVE 2026-11. SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE, SECONDED BY MAYOR MEDINA.

ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? NO, MAYOR. WELL, I, I WANT TO SAY A FEW WORDS.

AND I, YOU KNOW, ALLUDING TO WHAT YOU PREVIOUSLY SAID STAFF WORKED REALLY HARD WITH THE DEVELOPER REGARDING THIS.

AND THIS IS THE VERY FIRST TIME THAT THIS CITY HAS BEEN BLESSED TO GET IMPACT FEES PRIOR TO THE ACTUAL PHASE. SO THEY'RE GOING TO PREPAY FOR THE PHASE.

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DESIGN, THEY HAVE MORE EXPERIENCE. SO THIS IS, THIS IS PROBABLY THE FIRST TIME IN THE HISTORY OF THIS CITY, BUT I, I WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO COMMEND MR. MORTON AND MR. DILORENZO FOR WORKING DILIGENTLY WITH WITH THE DEVELOPER.

DOT YOUR I'S CROSSING YOUR T'S. THIS IS A WORTHWHILE PROJECT.

WE TALKED ABOUT CONSERVATION EASEMENT, YOU KNOW, WALKING TRAILS THROUGH WETLANDS.

WHAT A BEAUTIFUL PROJECT. I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE IT COME TO FRUITION.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. WITH THAT, I'M CALLING THE QUESTION, ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? SIGNIFY BY SAYING NAY. NAY.

ALL RIGHT. ROLL CALL. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON I COUNCILMAN HAMER.

COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN I. MAYOR. MEDINA I. DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE I.

ALL RIGHT. PASSES FOUR ONE. WE ARE NOW ON ITEM FIVE.

MADAM SMITH. ORDINANCE 2026-12. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE COASTAL MANAGEMENT ELEMENT AND INTERGOVERNMENTAL COORDINATION ELEMENT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO ADOPT THE BREVARD COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PLAN, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU MA'AM. I'M OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING ASKING MR. MORTON. THANK YOU AGAIN, HONORABLE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, IF YOU RECALL, BEFORE THE RECESS, WE DID THE FIRST READ OF THIS ORDINANCE. AND THIS IS ESSENTIALLY JUST A CONSISTENCY UPDATE TO ENSURE THAT OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PROTOCOLS ARE IN COORDINATION, OUR COASTAL MANAGEMENT ELEMENT, OUR CME, AND OUR INTERGOVERNMENTAL COORDINATION ELEMENT, THE ICER, INCONSISTENT WITH THE BREVARD COUNTY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PLAN.

AND IF YOU RECALL, MOST OF THAT LANGUAGE CENTERED AROUND IN CONJUNCTION WITH IN COORDINATION WITH AND COOPERATION WITH BREVARD COUNTY.

REALLY, IT'S ESSENTIAL THAT OUR NIMS AND OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT IS IN ALIGNMENT IF WE CONTINUE TO WANT TO RECEIVE FEMA FUNDING IN, IN REIMBURSEMENT IN THE EVENT OF A DISASTER. SO WE CAN HAVE STAFF COME BACK UP IF YOU'D LIKE, BUT WE HAVE CHANGED NOTHING SINCE THE INITIAL READING. THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? GENTLEMAN SEEING NONE.

ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING ASKING FOR A MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 2026-12.

GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEY. SECOND, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? GENTLEMAN. NO. ALRIGHT.

ALL IN FAVOR? SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? SIGNIFY BY SAYING NAY. ALRIGHT, WE'RE ON PASSES FIVE ZERO.

WE'RE GOING ON TO NUMBER SIX. PUBLIC HEARING NUMBER SIX.

I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK MR. MORTON TO PRESENT THE CASE. ASK MISS CARTER. SHE IS AT THE DAIS.

NOTHING HAS CHANGED SINCE THE INITIAL HEARING. UNLESS IT WAS DIRECTED BY COUNSEL. BUT I'LL LET MISS CARTER DISCUSS. THIS IS A REQUEST FOR CITY COUNCIL'S APPROVAL OF HOUSING ACTIVITIES TO BE FUNDED WITH HOME INVESTMENT PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM FUNDS DURING FEDERAL PROGRAM YEAR 2026.

BREVARD COUNTY HAS ADVISED THE CITY THAT BREVARD COUNTY HOME CONSORTIUM WILL RECEIVE $1,071,743.52 IN FEDERAL PROGRAM YEAR 2026 FUNDS PALM BAY SHARE IS 225,000 494,000 494,000. NOW 225,490 484. SORRY ABOUT THAT.

AS HE SAID, NOTHING HAS CHANGED. THIS WERE THE SAME PROJECTS THAT WERE PRESENTED TO YOU ON MAY 21ST.

THE CITIZENS ADVISORY BOARD CONSIDERED THIS ON THE 20TH AND THEN YOU ALL APPROVED THE PROJECTS ON MAY 21ST.

THE CITY IS REQUIRED TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING.

SO THE PROPOSED USE OF HOME FUNDS WAS ADVERTISED ON JUNE 2ND, 2026 FOR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR A PERIOD OF 30 DAYS.

NO COMMENTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED TO DATE. THIS WILL BE THE FINAL PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH IS ALSO THE EXPIRATION DATE FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED PROJECTS AND ACTIVITIES FOR PROGRAM YEAR 2026 HOME FUNDS AND AUTHORIZATION

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SO MOVED. SECOND. I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN HAMMER, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

ALL IN FAVOR? SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES FIVE ZERO. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.

I'M OPENING UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND DEFERRING TO MR. MORTON. THANK YOU AGAIN. THIS IS CONSIDERATION OF THE FISCAL YEAR 2026 2027 ANNUAL ACTION PLAN AND RECOMMENDATIONS OF PROGRAMS AND ACTIVITIES TO BE FUNDED BY THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT.

THIS AGAIN IS ALSO A FINAL HEARING. IF YOU RECALL, WE CONDUCTED THE PRELIMINARY HEARING AND ESSENTIALLY THE REQUEST IS FOR THE APPROVAL OF PROJECTS AND ACTIVITIES PROPOSED FOR THE PROGRAM YEAR 26 THROUGH CDBG FUNDING.

AND MISS CARTER, YOU'RE ALSO HERE TO SPEAK ON THAT ONE TONIGHT. YES, I THINK YOU PRETTY MUCH SUMMARIZED IT.

THE ONLY OTHER ADDITIONAL INFORMATION I WILL SAY IS THE ACTION PLAN.

EXPLAINS THE PROJECTS AND ACTIVITIES THE CITY WILL UNDERTAKE DURING PROGRAM YEAR 2026 AND DESCRIBES THE NEEDS, RESOURCES PRIORITIES, HOMELESS, SPECIAL NEEDS ACTIVITIES AND OTHER ACTIONS THE CITY WILL TAKE TO COMPLY WITH COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT REQUIREMENTS. THE ACTION PLAN ALSO SERVES AS OUR GRANT APPLICATION TO HUD, ODD TO THE US DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT.

A LIST OF THE PROJECTS AND ACTIVITIES WERE PROVIDED TO YOU IN THE LEGISLATIVE MEMORANDUM.

STAFF MET WITH THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD ON MAY 20TH AND THEN YOU.

ALL. THE CITY COUNCIL PRELIMINARY APPROVED THE PROJECTS AND ACTIVITIES ON MAY 21ST.

THE PROPOSED USE OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS WAS THEN ADVERTISED ON JUNE 2ND FOR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR A PERIOD OF 30 DAYS.

NO COMMENTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED TO DATE. THIS IS THE FINAL PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH IS ALSO THE EXPIRATION DATE FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PROJECTS AND ACTIVITIES FOR PROGRAM YEAR 2026 COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDING AND THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT ACTION PLAN AND AUTHORIZATION FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO SUBMIT THE PLAN FOR INCLUSION IN THE BREVARD COUNTY HOME CONSORTIUM'S CONSOLIDATED ACTION PLAN FOR 2026 AND AUTHORIZATION FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO TO EXECUTE ALL THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS FOR THE GRANT APPLICATION.

ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL. THANK YOU MA'AM. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? I KNOW WE HAVE SOME SOME LOCAL FOLKS. ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST? ALL RIGHT. I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

ALL IN FAVOR? SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? SIGNIFY BY SAYING NAY. PASSES FIVE ZERO. WE ARE NOW ON UNFINISHED OLD BUSINESS.

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WE THE RANKING IS DONE BY THE COUNCIL BODY, AND WE CURRENTLY HAVE A TIE DUE TO ONE MEMBER NOT PARTICIPATING IN THE VOTE, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S DUE TO A NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER THREE.

SO I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE WE TABLE THIS RANKING.

OKAY. UNTIL A FUTURE DATE WHEN NEW BUSINESS ITEM ITEM NUMBER THREE WILL BE DISCUSSED AND VOTED ON TONIGHT.

OR CAN WE BRING IT BACK RIGHT DURING THE SAME ITEM? WELL, I SAY BRING BACK JULY. WELL, I KNOW THERE'S, THERE ARE TWO FOLKS HERE THAT HAVE BEEN HERE ALL NIGHT.

YEAH. BUT THERE THERE'S ANOTHER MEMBERS THAT AREN'T PRESENT THAT ARE, THAT ARE ON THE LIST HERE.

I GOT YOU. WE CAN ACTUALLY, I MEAN, IF COUNCIL IS OPEN FOR IT.

TWO ARE HERE ON COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD UNDER THIS.

YEAH. THIS ONE, BUT NOT NOT THAT ONE. I DON'T BELIEVE SO.

WELL, IF WE SAY WE BOTH, WE BOTH. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE WE'RE MOVING THIS TILL NEXT.

NEXT MEETING. YOU'RE TABLING IT TILL NEXT MEETING.

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OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE WHAT THE CONVERSATION IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE, HOW THE INTERVIEW PROCESS IS GOING TO TAKE PLACE.

SO I WOULD JUST RECOMMEND THAT STAFF JUST SCHEDULE THEM BACK AT THE MOST APPROPRIATE COUNCIL MEETING FOR AN INTERVIEW.

OKAY. COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON. YOU WANTED TO WEIGH IN? YEAH. MY ONLY THING IS THAT FOR THE PEOPLE WHO'VE WAITED SINCE 6 P.M.

FOR FOR THESE BOARDS AND THEY'RE HERE TO SPEAK, THEY CAN SPEAK ON THEIR BEHALF.

WE CAN ENCOURAGE THEM. WE DON'T HAVE TO FORCE THEM, BUT WE CAN ENCOURAGE THEM TO GRAB A PUBLIC COMMENT CARD AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

BUT TO JUST KIND OF PUSH THEM OFF INTO THE NEXT MEETING, I'M NOT REALLY IN FAVOR OF IF WE TABLE THE ONE, LIKE IF WE TABLE THE ONE BOARD. I UNDERSTAND BECAUSE I THINK SINCE THEY'RE HERE, WE CAN MAKE A DECISION WITH THOSE.

WELL, THIS COULD BE SOLVED BY WHAT'S GOING ON.

WHY ARE WE A TIE? OH. COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN, WOULD YOU VOTE ON ONE OF THESE, AT LEAST? WELL, MY MY POINT IS, I DON'T KNOW ANY OF THEM.

I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY ON THE LIST, SO I'M NOT GOING TO PUT MY MY NAME TOWARDS THEM. BUT THAT'S WHY WE BROUGHT UP THE ITEM THAT'S GOING TO COME UP IN JUST A MINUTE. SO I DON'T KNOW IF MAYBE WE CAN JUST BRING UP THE NEW BUSINESS ITEM, GET IT OVER WITH, AND THEN, AND THEN DO THEM IF THEY'RE HERE OR IF IT'S BETTER TO TABLE THEM. BUT I'M NOT GOING TO PUT MY NAME ON ANYBODY THAT I DON'T KNOW.

SO SO MOST OF THE STUFF THAT YOU WANT TO DO IS TO INTERVIEW THEM ESSENTIALLY.

YES. I MEAN, I THINK THE, THE WAY THAT IT'S OUR PROCESS IS WRITTEN AND THE NEW BUSINESS ITEM IS LITERALLY THAT THEY WOULD JUST HAVE THREE MINUTES TO INTRODUCE HIMSELF.

WE COULD ASK THEM ANY QUESTIONS, AND THEN AT THAT POINT, WE AT LEAST HAVE SOMETHING TO GO OFF OF TO MAKE A DECISION, AS OPPOSED TO JUST A NAME ON A PAPER. I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE. I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THEY WERE HERE. YEAH. SO, SO HERE'S, HERE'S, HERE'S MY QUESTION THOUGH. AND SINCE WE'RE ON THIS TOPIC, RIGHT WE GET THESE APPLICATIONS, RIGHT. WE COULD CHOOSE TO INTERVIEW THEM OR WE COULD CHOOSE TO CALL THEM.

WELL, IT'S NOT QUITE FRANKLY, IT'S NOT MY RESPONSIBILITY TO REACH TO REACH OUT.

AND THERE SHOULD BE A FORMAL PROCESS ANYWAY. I MEAN, ANYTIME YOU DO ANYTHING, WE DIDN'T JUST, YOU KNOW, OH, WELL, IF YOU WANT TO BE THE CITY MANAGER, CALL US LIKE, NO, IF IT'S SERIOUS AND IT'S A FOR ME AND THE DEPUTY, I WAS GOING TO BRING THIS UP AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME. BUT YOU KNOW, ME AND THE DEPUTY MAYOR, WE TRIED TO TRIM SOME OF THE FAT OF SOME OF THESE BOARDS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T EVEN THINK THAT SOME OF THEM WERE NECESSARY, BUT WE WERE ALL VETOED.

YOU WERE VETOED AND SAID THEY'RE IMPORTANT. SO IF THEY'RE IMPORTANT, THEN WE SHOULD HAVE AN IMPORTANT PROCESS, I THINK. AND IT'S ALSO KIND OF RESPECTFUL TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE APPLYING BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THEY KIND OF DON'T UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS. LIKE I JUST, I JUST PUT MY NAME IN THE HAT AND HOPEFULLY THEY PICK ME.

IT'S LIKE, NO, THIS IS A FORMAL PROCESS. WE'VE DECIDED IT'S IMPORTANT.

LET'S GIVE THEM THE RESPECT OF GIVING THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES TO US. OKAY. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.

SO SO YOU'RE NOT READY TO VOTE ON ANY OF THESE? NO. NOT HAPPENING. SO THUS WE HAVE A TIE, GENTLEMEN.

SO LET'S JUST TABLE IT. IF ANYONE WISHES TO SPEAK.

I'M GOING TO ALLOW AN OPPORTUNITY TO FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD.

I GUESS YOU CAN COME ON IN AND START START SPEAKING.

SO WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS BOARD AT THIS TIME? WELL, COME ON IN AND WE'LL COME ON IN AND STATE YOUR NAME AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL TAKE CARE OF THE, THE OTHER PROCESS. WELL GOOD EVENING. SO MY NAME IS AARON RHODES.

1026 PINEAPPLE AVENUE, NORTHEAST PALM BAY. I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE THE SECOND GRADE.

SO LIFELONG RESIDENT FOR THE MOST PART, A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF BREVARD WAS BORN IN TITUSVILLE, MOVED DOWN HERE, LIKE I SAID IN SECOND GRADE.

I HAD THE HONOR AND PRIVILEGE OF WORKING HERE FOR ABOUT TEN YEARS AS A FIREFIGHTER BEFORE I MOVED OVER TO CENTRAL FLORIDA.

AS A FIREFIGHTER OVER THERE, BUT I NEVER LEFT THE CITY OF PALM BAY. MY KIDS WERE RAISED HERE.

I'M ACTIVE AND PASSIONATE IN FIRE AND EMERGENCY SERVICES PART OF A MULTIPLE BOARDS.

IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, I'VE BEEN HEAVILY ENGAGED IN GOVERNMENT RELATIONS FOR THE ONE OF THE CHIEFS ASSOCIATIONS.

AND THAT'S OPENED MY EYES TO, OBVIOUSLY, A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON ACROSS THE STATE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME STARTED TO FEEL A LITTLE BIT LIKE A HYPOCRITE BECAUSE AS I WAS WATCHING ALL THESE THINGS HAPPEN ACROSS THE STATE, I REALIZED I WASN'T INVOLVED IN MY OWN HOMETOWN. SO THROUGH THAT AND THROUGH PAYING ATTENTION OVER THE LAST, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, A COUPLE OF YEARS AND THINGS WERE GOING ON, I HAPPEN TO COME ACROSS THE FACT THAT THERE WERE SOME VACANCIES HERE. TO, TO YOUR POINT, I THINK IT'S GREAT.

I THINK, I THINK THEY, I THINK THEY SHOULD BE VETTED. I THINK IT SHOULD BE ONE OF THE PARTICIPANTS THAT GOT UP EARLIER, YOU KNOW, SPOKE THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOME EDUCATIONAL PROCESSES. AND I THINK THAT THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIT ON AN ADVISORY BOARD IS THE EDUCATIONAL PROCESS, AND THERE SHOULD BE SOME INPUT THERE. THAT'S GUIDED BY SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS THAT ARE PART OF THE STAFF.

SO I LOOK FORWARD TO THE OPPORTUNITY. AND I WOULD BE, I WOULD BE EXCITED TO SEE SOME FORMALITY BROUGHT TO THE ADVISORY BOARDS AS WELL.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? COME ON UP, SIR.

OH, MR. PRICE.

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I AM A LICENSED CONTRACTOR IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

GENERAL CONTRACTOR. I'M ALSO THE CO-FOUNDER AND CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER OF PRICE FAMILY HOMES.

WE'RE A CUSTOM BUILD ON YOUR LOT BUILDER HERE IN PALM BAY.

THIS CITY HAS GIVEN A LOT TO ME. IT'S GIVEN A LOT TO MY FAMILY AND IT'S ABOUT SERVICE, AN OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE BACK TO THIS GREAT CITY THAT'S GIVEN US SO MUCH. I'M VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT HOUSING AS A BUILDER.

AND I FEEL THAT MY EXPERTISE MY EXPERIENCE, MY KNOWLEDGE WILL BRING A GREAT DEAL TO THE COMMUNITY ADVISORY BOARD. I DO THINK THAT THE THE BOARD SERVES A GREAT PURPOSE IN ALLOCATING STATE AND FEDERAL FUNDING TO DISADVANTAGED AND LOW INCOME PEOPLE IN, IN THE CITY. I THINK THAT MY EXPERIENCE WITH FINANCIAL STEWARDSHIP OF MY OWN COMPANY WOULD HELP PROVIDE A GREAT OVERVIEW AND STEWARDSHIP OF THE FUNDS THAT WE'RE TRUSTED WITH AT THE ADVISORY BOARD.

AND I ALSO BELIEVE THAT IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO, TO PROVIDE SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY.

I DON'T CLAIM TO BE AN EXPERT IN COMMUNITY BLOCK GRANT FUNDING OR THE HOMES OR SHIP FUNDS.

BUT I AM LOOKING FORWARD THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN AND TO BRING MY, MY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND CONSTRUCTION KNOWLEDGE TO THE TEAM.

THANK YOU. AND I'VE PUBLICLY SAID THAT YOU, YOU KNOW, I'VE VISITED YOUR HOMES.

YOU, YOU BUILT QUALITY HOMES. AND I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'VE DONE FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR KIND WORDS. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, GENTLEMEN. ONE MORE MAYOR. COME ON UP.

OH, AND ACTUALLY, ALEXIS ALEXIS IS HERE AS WELL.

SO ALEXIS IS HERE. OH, PERFECT. LET'S LET'S EVERYONE WILL SPEAK.

THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TODAY. FIRST AND FOREMOST, WANT TO INTRODUCE MYSELF? MY NAME IS SHAWN BROOKS. I OWN AND OPERATE A BUSINESS LOCALLY HERE IN PALM BAY, FLORIDA.

I AM ALSO A LONG TIME RESIDENT OVER 25 YEARS IN THIS IN THIS COUNTY.

I'VE ALSO SERVED ON ANOTHER BOARD WHICH IS PARKS AND RECS A FEW YEARS AGO FOR A COUPLE YEARS.

AND I WAS LOOKING AT SOME VACANCIES. I WANTED TO BE IMPACTFUL IN MY COMMUNITY.

AND THROUGH THAT LOOKING AT COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS, I ALSO DO, I ALSO HAVE YOUTH PROGRAMS AND THAT I RUN CONCURRENTLY THROUGH MY, MY BUSINESS. I HAVE WIDE IMPACT THROUGH OUR COUNTY.

I'M ROOTED IN OUR COMMUNITY. I HELP FUND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THROUGH MY, MY BUSINESS ITSELF, THROUGH DONATIONS TO SCHOOLS, THROUGH ORGANIZATIONS.

I'VE RAISED A LOT OF MONEY THROUGH JUST THROUGH MY SMALL BUSINESS THAT I HAVE.

WITH THAT BEING SAID YOU KNOW, JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE DOESN'T KNOW EXACTLY EVERYTHING FROM THE BEGINNING DOESN'T MAKE THEM A, NOT A GREAT CANDIDATE. YOU KNOW, A LOT OF HEART GOES INTO THINGS AND YOU KNOW, I AM A PASSIONATE PERSON WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT, WHEN, WHEN IT GOES TO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND HOW IT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

I AM VERY, VERY WISE IN THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX, COMING UP WITH SOLUTIONS THAT ARE THAT JUST DON'T TRADITIONALLY FIT, BUT THEY MAKE SENSE. SO I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING MY TIME.

THIS WAS A LONG, LONG AWAITED THING, BUT I, I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE AND SPEAK TO YOU GUYS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN I'LL, I'LL TURN TO YOU AFTER WE HEAR FROM OUR FINAL APPLICANT.

AND THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE AND MOREOVER, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE.

OKAY. HELLO. I'M ALEXIS. I ACTUALLY GO BY MY MIDDLE NAME, ROBIN.

SO THAT'S WHY I PUT MY FIRST AND MIDDLE NAME ON THE APPLICATION.

I'M A TEACHER. I'VE BEEN A TEACHER FOR THE PAST GOING ON TEN YEARS.

I WORKED AT VIERA CHARTER SCHOOL. I, FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS HAVE WORKED IN THE VIRTUAL EDUCATION BECAUSE I'M A MOM OF TWO LITTLE KIDS.

AND SO I'VE BEEN HOME AND WORKING AND MULTITASKING AND GETTING IT DONE.

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AND I'M VERY MUCH A NORMAL PERSON. I DO NORMAL PEOPLE THINGS.

AND I THINK I REPRESENT A LOT OF PEOPLE IN PALM BAY A LOT OF FAMILIES.

I CARE VERY DEEPLY ABOUT MAKING LIFE BETTER FOR KIDS, FOR FAMILIES.

AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE MOVED TO PALM BAY.

BECAUSE IT WAS AFFORDABLE. IT WAS SAFE FOR OUR KIDS.

WE WANTED TO BUILD OUR FAMILY HERE, PUT OUR ROOTS HERE.

AND YEAH, I, I'M, LIKE I SAID, A NORMAL PERSON AND I JUST WANT TO SERVE MY COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE THIS LONG.

AGAIN. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY.

REALLY APPRECIATE THAT, COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN. YEAH.

SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS AWESOME. FIRST OFF, THANK YOU GUYS ALL FOR, FOR COMING UP AND SPEAKING.

AND IT WAS AWESOME TO, TO GET TO KNOW ALL OF YOU.

SO I JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS A REALLY COOL PROCESS. AND THAT'S BASICALLY A RUNDOWN OF HOW THAT NEW BUSINESS ITEM IS SUPPOSED TO WORK.

THAT'S COMING UP IN A MINUTE. SO NOW WE'VE ALL SEEN IT.

SO BUT WITH THAT YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES THE COUNCIL FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD, YOU KNOW, DELAY AT ONE MEETING BECAUSE ONE PERSON WASN'T HERE? OR DO WE FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD JUST GO AHEAD AND FINALIZE THE VOTE TONIGHT? I WOULD PREFER WE FINALIZE THE VOTE TONIGHT, SIR.

YES, SIR. ALL YOU WOULD HAVE TO DO IS RANK IT.

YEAH. AND I THINK YOU'RE THE. THAT'S FINE. YOU'RE THE SPLIT.

THAT'S FINE. I MEAN, IN FAIRNESS, I WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE ONE OF MY RANKINGS BASED ON A.

SO THEN CHANGE THE NAME. GO AHEAD, CHANGE IT.

Y'ALL CAN CHANGE IT. I AIN'T CHANGING MINE. I ALREADY KNOW I RANKED IT RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT. DID YOU CHANGE THIS ONE. I DON'T WANT TO CHANGE.

OH. ANYBODY ELSE WISH TO CHANGE THEIR. NO, I'M GOING TO.

I DON'T THINK YOU CAN DO IT. BUT COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN COULD VOTE.

IS IT STILL TIED? COUNCILMAN YOU CAN VOTE. YOU GO AHEAD AND VOTE, SIR.

I LIKE THE CLERK TO ADD IT UP. OKAY. YEAH, WELL, HE HE CAN VOTE.

NO, I'M SAYING YOU CAN'T HAND THAT ONE TO EACH ONE OF US BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE EVERYBODY'S VOTE.

IT DOESN'T MATTER. IT DOESN'T MATTER. I VOTED ALREADY.

YOU'RE NOT CHANGING MY VOTE. IT'S A PUBLIC RECORD. DID YOU WANT TO VOTE? I DON'T THINK I'M GETTING WHAT I'M SAYING. THAT'S THE ATTORNEY.

SHE QUIET RIGHT NOW. ARE WE IN TROUBLE? OH, WE GOOD.

ALL RIGHT. OKAY. SHE SAID. IN TALLAHASSEE.

THAT. YOU'RE COUNTING VOTES TO THE CLERK.

MAYOR. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ON THROUGH THE REST OF THE AGENDA.

OKAY. THANK YOU MA'AM, I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU.

I, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT WE'RE NOW ON NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER TWO, MADAM JONES.

AND, AND YES, I AM GOING TO THE LEAGUE OF CITIES IN HOLLYWOOD IN AUGUST.

SAME ME AS WELL. WHO ELSE I WOULD LIKE TO GO AS WELL.

COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN, HAMMER JOHNSON MYSELF. AND THAT'S THE WEEK THAT'S THE WEEK OF EARLY VOTING.

SO I'LL BE STAYING IN PALM BAY. COPY THAT SIR.

WELL, CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

SO YOU'VE GOT FOUR FOUR MEMBERS ATTENDING. YES, SIR.

THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE TO VOTE ON A DELEGATE NOW? YES, PLEASE. SO WE NEED TO VOTE ON THE DELEGATE GUYS.

I WOULD NOMINATE OUR MAYOR FOR IT IF YOU'RE GOING SECOND.

OKAY. SO IS THAT CONSENSUS? WE'RE GOOD. SO WE'VE GOT.

ALL RIGHT. I'LL BE THE DELEGATE, MA'AM. YES, SIR.

SO IS THAT ALL YOU NEED? YES, SIR. OUTSTANDING.

DO YOU NEED A MOTION FOR THIS? YES, SIR. I NEED A MOTION.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE MAYOR ROB MEDINA AS OUR DELEGATE FOR THE AUGUST 13TH TO 15TH FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES CONFERENCE.

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ALL IN FAVOR? SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. I ANY OPPOSED PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER THREE. COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN.

YEAH, JUST JUST BRIEFLY. WE'VE COVERED MOST OF IT.

I THINK IT WAS. I DO REALLY THINK IT WAS A AWESOME OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR FROM ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS.

I THINK WE HAVE SOME AWESOME RESIDENTS. AND I WOULDN'T HAVE KNOWN ANY OF THAT IF WE HADN'T HAVE DONE THAT.

AND THEN ANOTHER ITEM THAT I DIDN'T BRING UP EARLIER THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT IS THERE IS A LITTLE BIT MORE TRANSPARENCY TO THE PUBLIC, RIGHT? INSTEAD OF JUST LIKE YOU KNOW, OH, THEY JUST PICKED THEIR FRIEND OR SOMETHING.

IT'S LIKE, NO, WE HAVE A FORMAL PROCESS. YOU CAN SEE IT IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE, AT THE VIDEOS, I THINK IT'S A GOOD PROCESS. JUST TO, IT'S BASICALLY WHAT WE JUST DID, YOU KNOW, THEY GET THREE MINUTES TO COME UP.

WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS IF WE LIKE, YOU KNOW, THEN THEN WE VOTE.

SO IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN OR DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE AND THEN COUNCILMAN HAMMER.

YEAH. AND IF WE NEED A MOTION TO FOR DISCUSSION ON THIS, LET'S LET ME KNOW AND I'LL CIRCLE BACK ON IT.

BUT I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD ONE OTHER ITEM TO THE, TO THE LANGUAGE SOMEWHERE THAT IF THROUGH THREE CONSECUTIVE COUNCIL MEETINGS, IF A COUNCIL MEMBER HAS NOT APPOINTED THEIR RESPONSIBLE PERSON TO A BOARD, THEN IT IMMEDIATELY FALLS TO AN AT LARGE POSITION FOR THE COUNCIL TO APPOINT.

OKAY. SO THAT. OKAY. THAT'S GOOD. SO DID YOU WANT TO HANDLE THAT THERE NOW? WE CAN INCORPORATE IT INTO A MOTION. I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT UP.

OKAY. ARE THERE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? YEAH. DOUG HOOK AND I THINK COUNCILMAN HAMMER PINGED ON TO COUNCILMAN HAMMER.

YES. YEAH. I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE HOW AMAZING THIS IDEA IS.

I LEARNED A LOT ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT I DIDN'T KNOW.

AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN, I THINK WE'VE DONE 4 OR 5 DIFFERENT VOTES SO FAR FOR PEOPLE.

AND I ONLY KNEW 1 OR 2 OF THEM. AND AS MUCH AS I CAN LOOK PEOPLE UP OR WHATNOT, IT WAS PRETTY COOL TO FIND OUT THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, I HAD LOOKED UP AND SEEN COME TO PUT A FACE TO A NAME AND WHATNOT.

IT WAS, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA AND I'M FOR IT 100%.

YOU NEVER CONSIDERED JUST LOOKING OVER THE APPLICATIONS AND PICKING UP THE PHONE.

I'M JUST ASKING, DID YOU EVER CONSIDER THAT? I'M JUST ASKING.

I FEEL WEIRD ABOUT PICKING UP THE PHONE AND REACHING OUT, BUT.

OKAY. COPY THAT. ESPECIALLY WHEN. WHEN IT'S NOT UNDERSTOOD.

I JUST WANTED TO GIVE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S HOW MY MIND WORKS.

I FEEL LIKE IF THEY'RE EXCITED ABOUT IT, THEY WOULD REACH OUT TO ME.

SO. AND I HAVE HAD THAT TOO. SO. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A SPEAKER NOW. SO CAN YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO FINISH ONE ITEM.

WE'RE GONNA FINISH, DOUG. NO, WE'RE ALREADY ON THIS.

OH, YEAH. WE'RE GONNA FINISH. DOUG. YEAH, YEAH. GO AHEAD. DOUG.

THANK YOU. BRING IT UP. YEAH, I TRIED TO. IT'S SLOW.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL. DOUG. DOUG. 1091 MARIPOSA.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S CONSIDERATION.

AND WHAT HOPEFULLY LOOKS FORWARD TO OUR. IT LOOKS LIKE MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT.

IT DOES GIVE THE, THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY THAT ARE INTERESTED IN PARTAKING IN THESE VOLUNTEER CITIZEN BOARDS, THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES, GET INVOLVED IN CIVICS. I THINK THIS IS A GREAT CIVICS LESSON OVERALL.

THE ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO DO TONIGHT THAT I HAVE DONE PREVIOUSLY IN THE PAST WHEN WE'VE HAD SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD AT LARGE POSITIONS, I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE THE CITIZENS THAT ARE APPLYING FOR THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE OR THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE TO CONTINUE TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS CIVICS PROCESS.

ALTHOUGH THERE ARE ONLY TWO AT LARGE POSITIONS ARE BEING CHOSEN TONIGHT.

THEIR INVOLVEMENT AS A CITIZEN COMING TO THE BOARD MEETINGS, BEING INVOLVED, SPEAKING UP PARTAKING IN THAT IS JUST AS VALUABLE AS BEING UP ON THAT DAIS AND BEING ON THE BOARD. SO ANYBODY WHO DOES COME THROUGH THIS PROCESS IN THE FUTURE HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES TO THE CITY, SPEAK THEIR MIND, GET TO KNOW PEOPLE. EVEN IF YOU ARE NOT CHOSEN, I HIGHLY, HIGHLY RECOMMEND AND ENCOURAGE THEM TO CONTINUE TO STILL BE INVOLVED WITH THE BOARD THAT THEY WANT TO BE PART OF. LEARN HOW EVERYTHING WORKS, LEARN HOW THE GOVERNMENT WORKS.

AND HOPEFULLY WHEN THERE'S FUTURE POSITIONS, YOU'LL BE SET UP FOR SUCCESS FOR SOMETHING SIMILAR IN THE FUTURE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, DEPUTY MAYOR NOW, NOW COMES THE, THE PART THAT LET'S HAVE A MOTION HERE.

COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN. MAYOR. I'M SORRY. YEAH. MR. RICKY MYERS APPEARED IN FRONT OF THE DAIS AND THE GENTLEMAN SITTING RIGHT THERE.

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OKAY. OFFER HIM THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. WELL, LOOK, WHEN WE'RE RIGHT NOW, WE'RE DISCUSSING ITEM THREE.

OH. I'M SORRY. YEAH. MY BAD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

WE'LL CALL ON YOU NEXT, SIR. ALRIGHT. RIGHT NOW.

SO I'LL NEED A MOTION. COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN. OKAY.

I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE OUR NEW PROCESS.

AND I GUESS I'LL ADD THE CAVEAT FOR THE DEPUTY MAYOR IN THAT MOTION TO IF WE DON'T APPOINT SOMEBODY WITHIN THREE MEETINGS, THEN THAT POSITION BECOMES AN AT LARGE POSITION.

NOW, PART OF YOUR MOTION IS THE POLICY WOULD BE THAT THEY COME BEFORE COUNCIL AND PRESENT, OR YOU WANT SEPARATE INTERVIEW PROCESS WITH THEM.

SO THE WAY THAT I THINK THE IT'S WRITTEN IN OUR STAFF NOTES IS THAT THEY WOULD COME BEFORE THERE'S A SPECIAL, THERE'S A SPECIFIC TIME ON THE AGENDA. AND THEN AT THAT TIME THEY HAVE THREE MINUTES TO MAKE THEIR ARGUMENT.

YEAH. SO HOW IT'S WRITTEN IN THE, IN THE STAFF NOTES.

I JUST WANTED TO SECOND. OKAY. YEAH. ALL RIGHT.

GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND BUT I WAS, WE WERE WAITING FOR HIM TO GET THE, THE CAVEAT, THE OTHER CAVEAT I JUST ONE OTHER ONE OTHER LIKE JUST HOUSEKEEPING ITEM. AND, AND IT KIND OF SHOWED ITSELF TONIGHT, BUT MAYBE THERE'S TWO PLACES IN THE AGENDA WHERE THEY COME UP WITH THE INTERVIEW AND THEN WE'RE ABLE TO RANK AND THE CLERK CAN COUNT TO KEEP THE MEETING GOING, AND THEN WE CAN MAKE THE VOTE AT A LATER TIME.

SO I DON'T KNOW, LIKE WHERE IN THE MEETING PROCESS, LIKE THE APPLICANT, YOU KNOW, THE INTERVIEW PROCESS WOULD ACTUALLY TAKE PLACE.

MAYBE, MAYBE RIGHT AFTER PUBLIC COMMENTS, MAYBE RIGHT, RIGHT AFTER, RIGHT BEFORE PUBLIC COMMENTS.

MAYBE WE SHOULD HANDLE THAT BUSINESS RIGHT AFTER OR RIGHT BEFORE? YEAH. OR DURING ANNOUNCEMENT I WAS THINKING ABOUT.

I WAS THINKING ANNOUNCEMENTS WHEN WE ANNOUNCED THE POSITIONS.

YEAH. WELL, LIKE, SO WE LIKE WE ANNOUNCED TONIGHT, BUT WE'RE NOT VOTING ON THOSE TONIGHT.

RIGHT. WE ANNOUNCED ON THE FIRE PENSION BOARD AND ANOTHER ONE.

BUT THOSE ARE FOR FUTURE. CORRECT. SO HE'S SAYING WE'RE NOW GOING TO INTERVIEW FOR THE FOLLOWING THE ANNOUNCEMENT FOLLOWING THOSE.

THAT MAKES SENSE. YEAH. OKAY. DID YOU GET THAT MADAM TERESE? A LITTLE CONFUSED EXACTLY WHERE TO. SO THE INTERVIEW PROCESS OR HAVING THOSE THOSE CANDIDATES COME IN AND SHARE THEIR THOUGHTS? YES. WOULD BE AFTER THE DEPUTY MAYOR DOES ANNOUNCEMENTS OF FUTURE BOARDS.

PERFECT. RIGHT. AND THEN FROM THAT POINT ON, WE'LL RANK THEM SOMETIME DURING THE THE MEETING.

AND THEN YOU'LL BRING IT BACK FOR THE APPOINTMENT UNDER NEW BUSINESS.

UNDER NEW BUSINESS OR OLD BUSINESS. OKAY. ARE WE CLEAR ON THAT? WE ARE CLEAR. OKAY. ARE WE GOOD? I HAD SOMETHING FOR THAT.

GO AHEAD. SO UNDER THE CAVEAT WHERE WHERE WE'RE DISCUSSING, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WITHIN THAT WITHIN THAT STRUCTURE WHERE IT GOES TO AT LARGE, IT GOES AT LARGE JUST UNTIL THE NEXT APPOINTMENT.

IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT PERSON, FOR AS LONG AS THE SEAT IS ALIVE, IS AUTOMATICALLY AT LARGE NOW.

SO, AND HE SAID LIKE 90 DAYS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU SAID.

RIGHT. WHAT WAS IT? WELL, USUALLY RUNS TILL LIKE CONCURRENT WITH OUR TERMS. WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. THE NEXT TIME THAT SOMEONE'S TO APPOINT IT GOES BACK TO THAT SEAT.

CORRECT. WHERE, WHERE TECHNICALLY, IF WE JUST SAID THAT, IT WOULD MEAN THAT PERSON LOSES A SEAT FOREVER.

SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S IN THERE. YEAH. IT'S ONLY FOR THAT APPOINTMENT AND NOT FOREVER.

CORRECT. THANK YOU. THAT. ALL RIGHT. SO I'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.

COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN'S MAKE A MOTION. COUNCILMAN.

JOHNSON. SECONDED. ALL IN FAVOR? SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

NEW BUSINESS NUMBER FOUR. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. I'LL BE BRIEF ON THIS. I'VE SPOKEN ABOUT IT AT A FEW MEETINGS, AND IT'S IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US AS CIVIC LEADERS, AS COUNCIL MEMBERS TO ALSO REFLECT ON THE THINGS WE DID GREAT AND THE THINGS WE DID NOT SO GREAT IN ONE AREA THAT I COULD HAVE DONE BETTER JOB AS A COUNCIL MEMBER WAS WITH BEING CONSISTENT WITH CHARTER EVALUATIONS. WE FIND OURSELVES WITH TURNOVER, WITH CITY MANAGER'S TURNOVER, WITH STAFF HERE AND THERE. BUT I FEEL WHEN WE HAVE THESE CHARTER EVALUATIONS, INSTEAD OF TRYING TO HAVE IT AS A WAY TO HAVE A GOTCHA MOMENT, IT CAN BE A WAY FOR, HEY, HOW CAN WE REFLECT TO IMPROVE SO WE DON'T GO TO AN AWKWARD COUNCIL MEETING AFTER AN ELECTION OR SOMETHING OF THAT SORT.

SO I HAVE DONE CHARTER EVALUATIONS FOR ALL OF OUR CHARTER OFFICERS.

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SO IT'S NOT JUST POINTING THE FINGER, BUT HEY, THIS IS WHAT I RECOGNIZE AND WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

AMAZING JOB. BUT HEY, HERE'S SOME AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENT. JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, COACH TALKING TO HIS ATHLETES.

SO THAT'S ALL MAYOR. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.

EVERYBODY'S SUBMITTING THEIR CHARTER EVALUATIONS.

THIS IS THE ONLY TIME WE CAN HAVE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT IT BECAUSE THE SUNSHINE LAW.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO PUT IT OUT THERE AND MAKE SURE EVERYBODY GETS IT IN ACCORDINGLY.

SINCE A YEAR HAS ALREADY HAPPENED FOR MR. MORTON AND FOR OUR CITY.

CITY ATTORNEY AND CITY CLERK. IT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN IN APRIL, SO THAT'S ALL.

MAYOR. THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, I'VE. I'VE DONE THEM.

I JUST I PREFER THAT IF I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THEM AND I'M BEHIND CLOSED DOORS.

I SHARE MY THOUGHTS. AND THAT'S HOW I GROW THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

RIGHT. BUT I HAVE DONE THEM. I THINK MOST OF THEM WOULD, WOULD DON'T MIND ME, MY APPROACH BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. THIS IS LISTEN, IF I NEED SOMETHING, I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY.

SHE'S NOT GOING TO BE UNDEFEATED. RIGHT. WE ALL KNOW THIS.

EVERYTHING IS LEGAL UNTIL IT'S NOT RIGHT WHEN IT COMES TO THAT.

SO I'M, I'M FROM A DIFFERENT CLOTH. I LIKE CLOSED DOOR CONVERSATIONS.

I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS THOSE ITEMS. HOW PLEASED I AM IF IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS WORK.

BUT RIGHT NOW, I'M SATISFIED WITH WITH THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING.

AND I DEAL WITH BOTH TERESE AND THE CITY ATTORNEY AND OUR, OUR CITY MANAGER BEHIND CLOSED DOORS.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S HOW I, I LIKE DOING THAT. BUT I HAVE COMPLETED EVALUATIONS ON ALL THREE THIS YEAR.

BUT I PREFERRED MOVING FORWARD FOR MYSELF TO KEEP THAT DIALOG BETWEEN US.

AND IF THERE'S SOME DISAGREEMENT, I'LL COME ON THE DAIS AND I'LL SAY IT IF THERE'S A DISAGREEMENT.

AND THAT'S JUST MY LEADERSHIP STYLE, SIR. THAT'S JUST ME, BUT I, I'M, I'M OPEN TO HEAR WHAT OTHER COUNCIL FOLKS HAVE TO SAY.

DEPUTY MAYOR, YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN? YEAH. I MEAN, I CONDUCTED A FORMAL INTERVIEW PROCESS OR A REVIEW PROCESS WITH THE CITY MANAGER, MORTEN, AND SUBMITTED IT FOR FOR PUBLIC RECORD.

AND I'VE JUST HAD VERBAL CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY AND NONE WITH THE CITY CLERK.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, I COULD DO BETTER THERE, BUT I'M TO THE POINT WHERE I'M LIKE YOU.

IT'S LIKE IF I SEE A SHORTCOMING OR SOMETHING THAT NEEDS IMPROVEMENT SIT DOWN AND SIT DOWN AND HAVE A CONVERSATION.

I'M OKAY SUBMITTING SOME DOCUMENTS TO AS WELL THAT FOLLOW SIMILAR TO WHAT I DID WITH MR. MORTON. ALL RIGHT. ANYONE. I'LL JUMP IN BECAUSE I WILL SAY I HAD THE CITY, CITY CLERK SENT IT TO ME AND IT SAYS CITY AND CITY MANAGER RECOGNIZED THAT PERFORMANCE REVIEWS ARE CONDUCTED IN AN OPEN AND PUBLIC SESSIONS OF THE GOVERNING BODY, AND THAT THE WRITTEN PERFORMANCE REVIEWS ARE PUBLIC RECORDS.

SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS, I'M NOT SAYING FOR US TO COME UP HERE AND, YOU KNOW, HEY, I LIKE THIS ABOUT HIM, OR I LIKE THAT ABOUT HIM. BUT EITHER WAY, EVERYTHING'S GOING TO BE PUBLIC RECORD SO I CAN SEE, OKAY, DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE HAD ON ME AND HIM HAVE AN AGREEMENT ON HE DID GREAT ON THIS OR WE HAD A DISAGREEMENT ON THE CITY ATTORNEY WITH THAT.

SO THAT WAY WE'RE NOT JUST UP HERE JUST PUTTING THEM OUT FOR A SHOW, BUT SO SO I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM, MAYOR, BUT I WAS JUST SAYING, WE'RE PUTTING IN OUR FEEDBACK.

EVERYBODY'S PUTTING IN THEIR FEEDBACK AND WE CAN GROW FROM THERE.

OKAY. SO COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN. YEAH, I WAS JUST JUST GOING TO WEIGH IN JUST BRIEFLY.

YOU KNOW, I, I ALSO KIND OF MY PERSONALITY AND LEADERSHIP STYLE IS MORE LIKE YOURS, MAYOR.

SO I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM ON THAT REGARD.

AND I ACTUALLY HAVE NOT FILLED MINE OUT YET, BUT I INTEND TO.

BUT, AND THE REASON THAT I'M GOING TO GO, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT IT AND GO AND DO IT IS COUNCILMAN.

JOHNSON BEING THE LONGEST SERVING ONE ON HERE, I THINK HAS GONE THROUGH IS IT THREE FIRINGS OF CITY MANAGERS? AND SO I UNDERSTAND WHERE WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM AND WHY YOU WANT THAT DOCUMENTATION.

BECAUSE IT JUST MAKES IT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN A REALLY GOOD PLACE RIGHT NOW, AND I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

BUT, YOU KNOW, BEING THROUGH THE EXPERIENCES YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH, I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.

SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND PARTICIPATE. EVEN THOUGH I DO HAVE MORE OF A STYLE LIKE THE MAYOR'S TALKING ABOUT.

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I KEEP ON HITTING THE WRONG BUTTON. I, I UNDERSTAND WHAT COUNCILMAN JOHNSON IS SAYING AND I HAVE HAD MY, MY VERBAL CONVERSATIONS. I THINK WE HAD A, I THINK THIS WAS BROUGHT UP BEFORE WHERE WE, WHERE WE ALL DISCUSSED HAVING, HAVING OUR HAVING OURS BEHIND CLOSED DOORS AND HAVING, HAVING OUR HAVING OUR PERSONAL FEELINGS ABOUT OUR OFFICERS WITH THEM PERSONALLY, WITH MYSELF. I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T LIKE THE FACT THAT YOU CAN FIND OUT HOW I'M FEELING ABOUT THE CITY MANAGER WITHOUT HAVING A DISCUSSION WITH ME.

I, I REALLY DON'T LIKE THAT. THAT'S WHY I FEEL LIKE THAT BECAUSE WHERE WE DO HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE SUNSHINE YOU'RE READING, HOW I FEEL ABOUT THE CITY MANAGER WITHOUT BEING OUT HERE IN THE OUTSIDE.

YOU'RE FINDING OUT HOW I FEEL. SO SAY SAY SOMETHING COMES UP TO WHERE TO WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CITY MANAGER AND YOU HAVE INFORMATION ON HOW I FEEL WITHOUT IT BEING BROADCASTED OPENLY. WHERE, WHERE, YOU KNOW, I JUST I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE FEELING.

AND IF WE GO THAT WAY I GET IT. I HAVE NO PROBLEM PUTTING MY, PUTTING MY FEELINGS INTO THE WORDS ON THE EVALUATIONS.

BUT YOU KNOW, I, I HAVE MY FEELINGS TO WHERE I CAN WRITE SOMETHING, BUT HOW I FEEL IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THING.

I'VE HAD SO MANY MANAGERS LIKE I COULD BE THE BEST PLAYER ON THE TEAM, AND THEY'RE JUST LIKE, I DON'T GIVE ALL FIVES. AND I JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T ALWAYS GIVE ALL FIVES.

THERE HAS TO BE THERE HAS TO BE WORDS AND FEELINGS THAT YOU, THAT YOU INTRODUCED TO, TO THAT PERSON THAT IS BETWEEN YOU AND THAT PERSON WHERE, I MEAN, EVERYTHING'S PUBLIC RECORD.

IF YOU SAY, I DON'T LIKE THE WAY THAT HIS SHOES LOOK THAT DAY, YOU HAVE NO CLUE WHAT THAT CAN BE TURNED INTO.

AND IT CAN LIKE, THEY'RE GOING TO LIVE WITH THAT THING FOREVER TO WHERE IT'S JUST A PERSONAL FEELING YOU'RE HAVING.

I JUST, I'M DOWN TO WRITE IT ALL DOWN, BUT I DO PREFER THE BEHIND CLOSED DOORS AND HAVE HAVE MY PERSONAL FEELINGS AND THOUGHTS WITH THAT PERSON. THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO JUMP.

SO, SO I'M NOT ADVOCATING FOR US TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

I'M JUST SAYING I'M I'M TAKING OWNERSHIP ON NOT BEING CONSISTENT ON THIS IN THE PAST.

SO I'M SAYING LET'S JUST BE CONSISTENT ON WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.

THAT'S ALL. AND IN REGARDS TO THE PERFORMANCE ON ALL MY PERFORMANCES, I'M VERY HIGH LEVEL AND IN PERSON I GET MORE IN DETAIL ON WHAT IT IS.

SO SO THAT'S WHAT I MEAN BY THAT. SO THERE'S, THERE'S NOT FEELINGS OR EMOTION ON IT.

IT'S HEY, THIS IS THIS IS THE CASE. AND OH, IN REFERENCE TO THIS PARAGRAPH RIGHT HERE, THIS IS WHAT I'M REFERRING TO.

SO THAT'S IT. WE HAD A DISCUSSION. I'M GOOD MAYOR WE CAN MOVE ON.

SO THANK YOU SIR. APPRECIATE IT. SO, MR. MEYERS, I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME COME UP AND AND SPEAK NOW BEFORE WE WE DO ANYTHING ELSE GOOD EVENING TO THE CITY COUNCIL, TO THE MAYOR, AND TO EVERYONE IN THEIR RESPECTIVE PLACES.

JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE TIME ON THERE.

I WAS IN THE BACK. EARLIER ON THERE AND OUTSIDE WHEN WE HAD THE OVERFLOW ON THERE.

I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU THE UPDATE. I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE SCHOOLS, THE SOCIAL SERVICES.

I'VE WORKED WITH THE HOUSING FOR HOMELESS. SO I KNOW A LOT ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, NOT ONLY HERE IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.

SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU THAT UPDATE ON THERE AND TO THE OTHER CANDIDATES AS WELL, WITH THE SAME EXPERIENCE.

I WANT TO THANK THEM FOR THEIR TIME. SEVERAL OF US HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE, OF COURSE, SINCE SEVEN.

SOME HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE A LITTLE BEFORE 6 P.M..

BUT I DO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, AND I THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR EFFORTS.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE. THANK YOU, MISS MYERS.

THANK YOU. SO BEFORE WE GO TO REPORTS, DO WE CAN WE GO BACK AND DO WE HAVE RANKINGS FOR THEM? YES, MA'AM. WE HAVE RANKINGS. AND BASED, SO BASED ON THE RANKINGS, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE WILLIAM RHODES TO THE ESSENTIAL SERVICES PERSONNEL.

DO THESE REQUIRE TWO SEPARATE MOTIONS, MISS CLARK? SECOND, I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON FOR WILLIAM RHODES.

ALL IN FAVOR? SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

CARRY ON. NEXT, BASED ON THE RANK, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE WILLIAM PRICE FOR THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD. I'LL SECOND THAT.

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ALL IN FAVOR? SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

CONGRATULATIONS TO MR. RHODES AND MR. PRICE AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE TO THE OTHER INDIVIDUALS.

WE LOOK FORWARD FOR YOUR FUTURE APPLICATION AND YOUR CONTINUED PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR CITY.

IT WAS A TOUGH RANKING. BUT NOW WE HAVE A NEW PROCESS.

PLEASE CONTINUE TO WANT TO SERVE OUR CITY. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE HEART AND QUITE FRANKLY, WE CANNOT DO THIS BY OURSELVES. WE NEED YOUR ENGAGEMENT AND YOUR INPUT.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR APPLYING AND GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS.

THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME, WE'VE GOT COUNCIL REPORTS, COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN.

[COUNCIL REPORTS:]

AND. AND TO BE FAIR, I, I ACTUALLY AM NOT 100% SURE OF ANY CONSENSUS OR IF WE NEED TO BRING IT BACK FOR A MORE FORMAL ITEM.

BUT I, I TALKED TO CITY MANAGER ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT. HE ASKED ME TO BRING IT UP WITH YOU GUYS TO ME.

YOU KNOW, FIRST OFF, I'VE BEEN ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE BEEN VERY HAPPY WITH THE COUNCIL AT LARGE IN OUR CITY AND OUR LEADERSHIP IS OUR FAITH AND HOW WE PROFESS THAT AND HOW WE PRAY AND, AND I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT. A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A SIDE ISSUE.

I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU PROFESS A WORD, THE WORD OF CHRIST, THAT HE BLESSES THAT AND REWARDS IT.

AND SO JUST A VERY SMALL THING TO ME THAT I BROUGHT UP WITH THE CITY MANAGER THAT'S KIND OF A CULTURAL THING AND I THINK WOULD BE GOOD IS ON OUR EMERGENCY VEHICLES. I THINK ON THE POLICE VEHICLE RIGHT NOW, I THINK IT SAYS SOMETHING LIKE CONNECT, IMPACT, SERVE OR SOMETHING. IT'S GOOD WORDS. THEY MEAN SOMETHING, BUT WITHOUT A REAL MORAL FRAME.

YOU KNOW, THOSE TYPES OF WORDS DON'T MEAN AS MUCH.

AND SO I WANT TO MOVE MORE TOWARDS LIKE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE DOES AND SOME OTHER DEPARTMENTS DO WHERE WE PUT IN GOD WE TRUST ON OUR EMERGENCY VEHICLES.

WHICH ALSO SO THAT FOR THE, FOR THE LEGALISTS IN HERE THAT SAY WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE SECULAR.

IT'S ALSO THE OFFICIAL MOTTO OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, VOTED BY CONGRESS AND APPROVED BY PRESIDENT EISENHOWER IN THE 50S.

SO WHICH IS WHY IT'S ON SO MANY VEHICLES. IT'S ON THE BREVARD COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICERS VEHICLES.

SO I JUST WANT TO BRING THAT UP WITH YOU GUYS.

AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. IT MAY SEEM SMALL, BUT THAT'S ALL.

SO ARE YOU LOOKING FOR CONSENSUS TO. WELL, I GUESS WE NEED TO MAYBE ASK, YOU KNOW, OUR STAFF IF IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN JUST DO VIA CONSENSUS OR IF HE NEEDS TO BRING IT BACK FOR A MORE FORMALIZED PROCESS. MR. MANAGER? MR. MORTON. YES. WE CAN PUT THE NATIONAL. IT'S THE NATIONAL MOTTO.

IT'S ALSO THE FLORIDA STATE MOTTO. IT'S ON OUR LICENSE LOT OF LICENSE PLATES.

WE CAN. I THINK PROBABLY THE BEST WAY TO GO ABOUT THAT IS JUST INTEGRATE THAT ONTO EVERY NEW VEHICLE THAT WE BRING ONTO THE FLEET IS PROBABLY A WAY TO START.

IF THAT'S COUNCIL'S DESIRE, RATHER THAN TRYING TO RETROFIT A COUPLE HUNDRED VEHICLES.

BUT JUST A SUGGESTION. OKAY. DEPUTY MAYOR. YEAH, MY, MY, MY QUESTION WOULD JUST BE THE FISCAL IMPACT IN THE BUDGET THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE USED FROM. SO TO CITY MANAGER'S PERSPECTIVE, IT'S SEEMS TO BE THESE VEHICLES SEEMS TO BE A GOOD IDEA.

OKAY. YEAH. I THINK IF WE TARGET THOSE EMERGENCY SURGICAL FIELDS FIRST AS NEW ONES COME IN, AND THEN WE CAN, YOU KNOW, ESTABLISH WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, WORK ON THAT DESIGN. WE HAVE A PHENOMENAL, PHENOMENAL SIGN SHOP AND WE MAKE OUR OWN DECALS AND STICKERS. AND SO LET US TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND BRING SOME IDEAS BACK TO COUNCIL JUST SO YOU SEE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO AND WE'LL ROLL FORWARD.

YOU GO WITH THAT. COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN. ALL RIGHT.

SOUNDS LIKE A PLAN. WE GOT CONSENSUS, GENTLEMEN.

OUTSTANDING. ANYTHING ELSE THAT CONCLUDES? THANK YOU.

MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMAN HAMMER. I HAVE A FEW THINGS, BUT I'M GOING TO KEEP IT SHORT.

FIRST, I WANTED TO THANK THE THE THE COUNCIL FOR GIVING ME THE, THE ABILITY TO BE PART OF THE NEMO GARDENS COMMUNITY GARDEN THAT WE HAVE THERE.

WE HAVE BEEN WORKING EXTREMELY DILIGENT. OUR SUSTAINABILITY COUNCIL HAS BEEN OUT THERE WORKING WITH US.

WE'VE GOT THE WHOLE PLACE CLEARED. WE'VE GOT IT CLEANED.

WE'VE GOT SOME PICNIC TABLES OUT THERE. THE RESIDENTS ARE ENJOYING IT.

ON JULY 11TH, WE'RE GOING TO BE RENTING A, A A SHREDDER, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE SHREDDING UP BRANCHES AND STUFF LIKE THAT IF ANYBODY WANTS TO COME HELP. BUT WE ARE GOING WE'VE GOT SOME MULCH SATURDAY.

DID YOU SAY JULY 11TH? OH, JULY THE 11TH, CORRECT.

YEAH. JULY 11TH. WE'VE GOT SOME MULCH DONATED.

WE'VE GOT A FEW THINGS DONATED AND THE COMMUNITY'S REALLY COMING TOGETHER.

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AND I MEAN, I MEAN, IT WAS, IT WAS HOT, BUT I MEAN, WE WE GOT EVERYTHING CLEARED.

AND I WANT TO THANK MR. HOOK WE'RE ACTUALLY COORDINATED WITH MRC TO COME OUT THERE, CUT AND PAINT ALL THE PEPPER TREES SO WE CAN ERADICATE THE WHOLE PLACE WITH FROM ALL THE PEPPER TREES.

SO I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR GIVING ME THE, THE ABILITY TO DO THAT AND THE, AND THE BLESSING TO MOVE FORWARD ON THAT.

AND IT'S REALLY COMING TOGETHER. SECONDLY I GOT TO GO ON VACATION, MY FIRST FAMILY VACATION EVER.

AND I GOT TO GO TO GEORGIA. AND ONE THING THAT I NOTICED WHEN I WENT TO ALL THESE DIFFERENT PLACES IS THEIR CHARACTER.

THERE WAS SOMETHING ABOUT EVERY SINGLE PLACE THAT, THAT WHEN I SAW IT MADE ME REMINDED.

AND THE MORE THAT I THINK ABOUT IT, THE MORE I THINK ABOUT HOW PALM BAY DOESN'T HAVE THAT.

THERE'S NOTHING IN PALM BAY THAT LIKE THAT BREEDS PALM BAY.

THERE'S NOTHING THAT LIKE WE DON'T HAVE A SIGN.

WE DON'T HAVE A OR NOT A SIGN. WE DON'T HAVE SOMETHING THAT.

OKAY. THAT'S PALM BAY. THE COMPOUND. YOU KNOW I REALLY WANT TO MOVE FORWARD ONTO TO TO DEVELOPING CHARACTER.

WE DON'T HAVE A DOWNTOWN, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.

AND THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS THAT I'M WORKING WITH THE CITY MANAGER ON, ON, ON, ON CREATING SOME, SOME CHARACTER FOR OUR CITY. BUT I MEAN, EVEN O'GALLEY HAS AN ART DISTRICT, LIKE EVERYWHERE HAS SOMETHING THAT THAT MAKES THEM AND WE DON'T SPRAWLING DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE.

AND, AND I MEAN, EVEN IF YOU GO ON GOOGLE AND YOU LOOK IT UP, YOU KNOW, THE THINGS TO DO IN PALM BAY ARE, ARE GO TO CHICK FIL A AND MEET THIS GUY. THAT'S REALLY NICE.

SO, I MEAN, I, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT I LEARNED ON MY VACATION THAT, THAT, THAT I TOOK TO HEART AND, AND I, I REALLY, I REALLY WANT PALM BAY TO HAVE A MEANING OTHER THAN, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE MOVING HERE.

SO YEAH, THAT'S IT. BUT OKAY, I'M GOING TO TAKE YOU BACK.

WE WERE DISCUSSING E-BIKES AND THEN YOU, YOU INTERCHANGED THIS THOUGHT PROCESS OF WHAT? SO THAT'S WHERE I THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING. OKAY. SO SO YEAH, I'LL GO BACK TO THAT.

SO, SO PRIOR I DISCUSSED COMING UP WITH SOME IDEAS FOR E-BIKES AND LOW SPEED VEHICLES AND WHATNOT.

LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE THE, WE HAVE THE, THE ACTUAL COMPANY WITHIN OUR CITY THAT BUILDS THESE LOW SPEED VEHICLES THAT THEY CAN'T EVEN PULL OUT OF THEIR DRIVEWAY WITH THEM.

SO I WAS INTERESTED IN SEEING IF THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO APPROACH LATER.

I CAN WORK ON SOMETHING AND BRING IT FORWARD SOME IDEAS.

BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, LOW SPEED VEHICLES ARE A HUGE PART OF FLORIDA, ESPECIALLY MOVING FORWARD.

NOW WE HAVE THE E-BIKE ISSUES WHERE, WHERE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE LOW SPEED ORDINANCES, THESE ACTUALLY DESIGNATE VEHICLES, NOT JUST CARS, TRUCK, ANYTHING THAT'S THAT'S UP TO 20 MILES AN HOUR.

SO IT ACTUALLY HAS REGULATIONS IN THESE DIFFERENT MUNICIPALITIES THAT, THAT HAVE REGISTRATION, THAT HAVE, THAT HAVE AGE LIMITS, THAT HAVE JUST SO THAT I'M CLEAR.

COUNCILMAN HAMER. BREAKING IT DOWN FOR ME. THOSE LOW SPEED VEHICLES, THERE'S CURRENT ORDINANCES. AND YOU WANT TO EMULATE THOSE ORDINANCES WITH THE E-BIKE TO CREATE AN E-BIKE ORDINANCE.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? WELL, NOT JUST THE E-BIKE ORDINANCE.

WE WILL MIX THEM IN BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL LOW SPEED VEHICLES.

ONE'S JUST A CAR. ONE'S JUST A BIKE. SO THEY DON'T HAVE AN ORDINANCE.

OTHER OTHER LOCATIONS HAVE ORDNANCE. WELL, EVEN THE LOW SPEED CARS THAT ARE BEING MANUFACTURED HERE HAVE AN ORDINANCE.

BUT LIKE FOR INSTANCE, THEY CAN'T TRAVEL ON ROADS THAT ARE, THAT ARE, THAT ARE OVER, THAT ARE OVER 25 OR 30 MILES AN HOUR.

SO THEY'RE ON. JOHN CONLON SO THEY CAN'T EVEN PULL OUT ON A.

JOHN CONLON SO. AND THEN THEY'RE ON THE CORNER OF JOHN CONLON AND PALM BAY ROAD.

THEY CAN'T PULL OUT ON A PALM BAY ROAD. WHERE DO THEY WRITE ON? THEY DON'T. THEY SELL THEM TO OTHER CITIES THAT THAT ACTUALLY ALLOW THEM.

SO OKAY. SO ALL RIGHT, SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT WORKING, ASKING FOR CONSENSUS TO WORK ON THAT, ASKING FOR CONSENSUS TO WORK ON THAT, GIVE IT TO THE CITY MANAGER AND BRING IT BACK FOR DISCUSSION.

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I THINK IT'S GONNA BE TOO CHALLENGING FOR, FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT TO ENFORCE.

I UNDERSTAND THE SAFETY BEHIND IT, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I THINK PARENTS NEED TO BE PARENTS AND KIDS ARE GOING TO BE KIDS.

AND IT'S VERY, I, I FOLLOW SIMILAR REASONS WHY GOVERNOR DESANTIS VETOED IT AT THE STATE LEVEL, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S TOO DIFFICULT TO ENFORCE AND IT'S GOING TO INCREASE SURVEILLANCE OF CITIZENS.

SO WITH THAT, I DON'T HAVE AN APPETITE FOR IT.

IT'S LIKE TIGHTNESS. I DON'T I DON'T HAVE AN APPETITE LIKE HE SAYS FOR IT BECAUSE IT'S CREATING SOMETHING.

BUT ALL THAT TO SAY, THERE'S STILL AN E-BIKE ISSUE AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE TACKLED.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON IS ARE YOU FOR CHANDLER OR NAH, I MEAN, COUNCILMAN, SORRY, I, I ALWAYS IN FAVOR OF, OF ALLOWING A COUNCILMAN TO MOVE FORWARD, CREATE A PRODUCT AND THEN BRING IT BACK FOR A FORMAL DISCUSSION AND NOT TO, TO JUST TOTALLY KILL SOMETHING AT 11:00 AT NIGHT WHEN WE'RE TIRED.

BUT I WILL SAY THAT I'VE PUT SOME THOUGHT INTO IT.

AND IN GENERAL, RIGHT NOW MY LEANING IS WITH THE DEPUTY MAYOR AND THE GOVERNOR FOR SIMILAR REASONS.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU THE THUMBS UP TO WORK ON IT, BECAUSE OF HOW I FEEL ABOUT THIS KIND OF PROCESS OF OUR MEETING.

BUT THAT IS KIND OF WHERE I'M AT. SO IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE IT'S GOING TO GO VERY WELL UNLESS YOU CONVINCE US OTHERWISE.

YEAH. AND TO THAT VERY POINT, I'M FOR IT AS WELL.

I DO HAVE CONCERNS ON US NOT OVER ON MAKING SURE WE'RE NOT OVER POLICING, BUT AT THE SAME POINT WHEN I DON'T WANT TO SAY WHEN, IF A CATASTROPHE WERE TO HAPPEN, THIS PLACE WILL BE PACKED AND PEOPLE WILL BE LIKE, WHAT DID YOU DO? OR WHAT COULD YOU HAVE DONE? AND I WOULDN'T WANT US TO BE THERE.

AND IT'S A LOT MORE LIKELY WITH THESE E-BIKES FOR ACCIDENTS TO HAPPEN WHEN WE'VE HAD DEATHS WITH KIDS WALKING AND JUST ON REGULAR BICYCLES.

SO IT INCREASES THE CHANCE FOR SOMETHING TO HAPPEN.

SO I'M, I'M FOR YOU, COUNCILMAN HAMMER. I DON'T WANT TO, I DON'T WANT TO WASTE YOUR TIME.

LIKE WORKING ON SOMETHING. BUT AT LEAST WE CAN PUT A VALIANT EFFORT.

AND HEY, WHO KNOWS? THERE'S BEEN TIMES WHEN THINGS HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP LIKE CHICKENS, WHERE WE WEREN'T SURE IF IT WAS GOING TO PASS OR NOT. AND SURE ENOUGH, IT PASSED. SO I SAY GO FOR IT IF YOU FEEL THAT CONVICTION. WELL, WE'RE OVER VOTED SO.

YEAH, HE SAID NO. SO I SAID NO. I SAID, YOU PROBABLY WON'T HAVE MY VOTE ON THE DAY THAT YOU BRING IT.

SO IF YOU WANT TO WASTE YOUR TIME ON IT, YOU CAN.

BUT I'M NOT GOING TO SHOOT YOU DOWN FOR THE SAME REASON THAT.

COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH. AND JUST AND JUST FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR CLARITY, A LOT OF THE REASON WHY THAT POLICY WAS PASSED WAS ALSO TO RESPECT STAFF'S TIME.

SO STAFF'S TIME IS LIMITED. WE'VE BEEN IN AN ATTRITION EFFORT WITH THE CITY.

YOU KNOW, MATT'S BROUGHT IN CONSULTANTS TO MANAGE OTHER THINGS, YOU KNOW, MONEY IN OTHER AREAS.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE STAFF. IT'S GOING TO BE ME. SO. WELL THEN I DON'T THINK YOU NEED A CONSENSUS TO TO DO ANYTHING ON YOUR OWN.

OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. COPY THAT. COUNCILMAN.

JOHNSON. DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR REPORT? YES.

COUNCILMAN. HAMMEL. COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON. I'M BE.

I'M ABOUT TO LOOK FOR A LOT OF CONSENSUS, BECAUSE I HAVEN'T SEEN Y'ALL IN A MONTH, AND I MISSED Y'ALL, AND WE ABOUT TO GET TO WORK. SO THE FIRST THING FIRST OFF, I WANT TO THANK MR. MORTON FOR OUR CHIEF SPEARS FOR SHOOTING ME OVER THE THE POLICY FOR THE FLOCK CAMERAS.

I WOULD LIKE TO, I, I REVIEWED IT SLIGHTLY, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO GO INTO DETAIL A LITTLE MORE TO SEE IF WE COULD STRENGTHEN IT OR SEE WHAT COULD BE DONE.

AND IF SOMETHING COULD BE DONE THEN I WOULD LIKE TO BRING IT TO COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S IN THE LOOP.

SO THAT'S THE FIRST ONE. SECOND THING DISCUSSION OF THE PROPERTY TAX REFERENDUM.

IT COULD PASS, IT COULD NOT PASS. BUT I THINK WE AS A CITY SHOULD BE PROACTIVE AND NOT REACTIVE.

AND WHETHER THAT'S US HAVING A CONVERSATION. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S MR. MORTON'S APPETITE TO SPEAK ON IT AT THE UPCOMING BUDGET WORKSHOP.

AND RUN HYPOTHETICALS OF, HEY, IF IT HAPPENS, THEN THIS IS HOW MUCH WE'RE GOING TO BE LOSING AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE ON WHAT SERVICES WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CUT OFF. BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE AS A CITY NOT BEING BIASED, BUT JUST BEING EDUCATIONAL ON THE ASPECT CAN BE, HEY, IF THIS PASSES, THIS IS WHAT WILL BE GONE.

OR IF THIS, YOU KNOW, IF THIS HAPPENS, THIS IS WHAT WILL BE AFFECTED.

SO JUST WANTED TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE COUNCIL.

THIS IS THE ONLY TIME WE CAN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.

IT HAPPENED WHILE WE WERE ON BREAK FROM THE MONTH OF JUNE.

SO WHAT IS YOUR FEEDBACK AND SEE WHAT, WHAT YOUR APPETITE WAS WITH, WITH THAT TOPIC MAYOR, I'LL BE HAPPY TO GO FIRST. SO I DID, I DID REVIEW THE, THE FLOCK POLICY.

THERE'S SOME OF IT THAT CONCERNS ME. SO I'D BE WILLING TO AND MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE WE EACH, YOU KNOW, MAKE COMMENTS. REDLINE IT. BRING IT BACK TO THE JULY 16TH OR AUGUST MEETING.

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AND THEN TO YOUR SECOND POINT ABOUT THE PROPERTY TAXES, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S VERY CLEAR.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, LIKE WE DON'T TAKE A POSITION ON FOR OR AGAINST THE PROPERTY TAX MEASURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT ULTIMATE DECISION WILL BE BE LEFT UP TO THE VOTERS. BUT I LIKE YOUR IDEA ABOUT THE EDUCATION AND SCENARIOS.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE'D LIKE TO HEAR MR. MORTON'S POSITION.

AND IF THAT SOMETHING LIKE THAT COULD BE PREPARED FOR THE NEXT BUDGET MEETING OR WHEN IT'S APPROPRIATE TIME THAT STAFF CAN PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER.

MR. MORTON? YES. I WAS ACTUALLY PLANNING ON TOUCHING ON IT AT OUR BUDGET WORKSHOP NEXT WEEK.

AND THEN MORE DEEPLY IN AUGUST. AND THE POINT IS WELL TAKEN.

OUR CONVERSATIONS ON THE STAFF LEVEL HAVE REVOLVED AROUND PURELY INFORMATIONAL AND REALLY FINE TUNING THE PRESENTATION.

I DON'T WANT IT COMING OFF OR US BEING ACCUSED OF ANY DISCUSSION STRATEGIES.

YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE IN CITY MANAGER SCHOOL, SO TO SPEAK.

AND ONE OF THE FOUNDATIONAL THINGS YOU LEARN IS DECADES AGO, THEY INVENTED A STRATEGY CALLED THE MONUMENT STRATEGY, RIGHT? AND SO WHAT DID WE SAW THIS PLAY OUT A FEW YEARS AGO DURING ONE OF THE OMNIBUS BILLS.

AND WHAT DO THEY DO? THEY PUT GATES UP AROUND THE WASHINGTON MONUMENT. THEY PUT GATES UP AND THEY SCARE EVERYBODY. OH, WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THIS DOWN. SO I JUST WANT TO PRESENT CLEAR, RATIONAL OUTCOMES THAT ARE LIKELY PRETENSIONS IN THE DECISION MAKING MATRIX IN RELATIONSHIP TO OUR MILLAGE RATE AND FUTURE POTENTIAL MILLAGE RATE. AND WHAT THAT HONESTLY LOOKS LIKE IN TERMS OF, OF REVENUE AND OR OPERATIONS LOSS.

AND I THINK IT IS GOOD FOR YOU AND THE COMMUNITY TO START TO UNDERSTAND THE COMPLETE NEXUS OF DIFFICULT DECISIONS THAT WILL WOULD BE MADE IN A BUDGET LOSS SCENARIO. AND TO JUST DRIVE THE POINT HOME THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR EVERY BUDGET LINE ITEM, THERE IS A CONSTITUENCY FOR EVERY BUDGET LINE ITEM, SOMEONE WRITE IT, WANTS IT AND WANTS TO DEFEND IT.

SO IT WILL BE DIFFICULT. SO WE'RE GOING TO TOUCH ON IT AND JUST TRY TO PRESENT CLEAN FACTUAL INFORMATION, SOME EARLY TAKEAWAYS. AND THEN ULTIMATELY, IT'LL BE A VERY LONG CONVERSATION AS A COUNCIL WITH YOUR COMMUNITY ON WHAT THOSE ULTIMATE CHANGES AND SERVICE OR, OR NOT IF IT PASSES. OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. A FEW MORE ITEMS. I'M GOING TO SEE YOU BACK OVER TO YOU. MR.. WELL, I'M NOT GOING TO SEE YOU BACK OVER TO YOU, MR. MORTON, BUT I WILL SAY ME AND MR. MORTON, MR. MORTON, HAVE BEEN IN DISCUSSION IN REGARDS TO OUR PROCUREMENT PROCESS OVER THE PAST EIGHT YEARS.

I'LL GET EMAILS FROM BUSINESSES ON HOW THEY CAN DO BUSINESS WITH THE CITY.

I'LL FORWARD THEM TO THE PROCUREMENT DEPARTMENT OR FORWARD THEM TO THE MANAGEMENT OR FORWARD THEM TO WHOEVER TO KIND OF GET THEM EDUCATED.

ONE THING THAT WAS BROUGHT TO A COUNCIL A FEW YEARS AGO AND AT THAT TIME I HAD VOTED AGAINST IT.

WAS LOCAL PREFERENCE BY FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER PETER FILIBERTO.

WE HAVE MR. DAVID GROGAN AND WE HAVE MR. MORTON.

THEY HAVE EXPERIENCE IN THIS. I WOULD LIKE FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER, EVEN IF IT'S NOT LIKE HOW IT WAS BEFORE, BUT SOME WAY WE CAN MAKE PALM BAY MORE BUSINESS FRIENDLY IN REGARDS TO DOING BUSINESS WITH THE SMALL BUSINESSES HERE.

SO WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, I'M NOT SURE. I'M LEANING ON THE EXPERTS WHO'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR SOME ODD YEARS.

SO, BUT I JUST WOULD LIKE CONSENSUS FOR US TO MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION.

DEPUTY MAYOR, YOU WERE WEIGHING IN ALREADY. SO SERVICE LEVEL, IT FEELS GOOD.

IT LOOKS GOOD. IT SOUNDS GOOD. BUT THE BIGGER ISSUE IS IN PALM BAY IS WE HAVE A LACK OF RESPONSE OF BIDDERS ACROSS THE BOARD AND ALL SCOPES, LOCAL OR NON-LOCAL. AND I THINK I THINK IF WE ADD THIS RESTRICTION AND PLACE IT IT WILL FURTHER HEMORRHAGE THE STAFF'S ABILITY TO, TO GET QUOTES. I MEAN, WE SAW IT ON THE KEN GREEN PARK JUST TO GET THREE QUOTES, ONE ONE BETTER, RIGHT? AND SO I THINK THAT SOUNDS GOOD. YOU KNOW, I'VE, I'VE DONE WORK FOR MUNICIPALITIES WHERE THEY EVEN HAD LIKE REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU HAD X NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES IN ADDITION TO YOU BEING A LOCAL BUSINESS, X NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES HAD TO LIVE IN ONE MILE RADIUS, TWO MILE RADIUS, THREE MILE RADIUS TO EVEN BE CONSIDERED FOR THE BID.

AND THEN A LOT OF TIMES THAT, THAT LANGUAGE GIVES THE LOCAL PREFERENCE OF 5% ADDED PROFIT ADVANTAGE TO THE PROCESS BECAUSE THEY ARE LOCAL. SO THE ADVANTAGE THEY GET IS THEY GET A WORD OF THE BID AT A, AT A SLIGHTLY HIGHER PRICE THAN THE LOWEST RESPONSIBLE BIDDER.

SO I'M NOT A FAN OF THE LOCAL PREFERENCE. THAT'S JUST MY POSITION.

AND AGAIN I, I HEAR YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE, BUT AGAIN, I'M JUST LOOKING FOR TO GIVE STAFF DIRECTION, SPECIFICALLY. MR.. I DON'T WANT TO PUT HIM ON THE SPOT RIGHT NOW UNLESS HE HAS SOMETHING, BUT I FEEL CONFIDENT THAT THEY CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL CAN AGREE UPON THAT WILL BE BENEFICIAL BECAUSE THE LOCAL BUSINESSES ARE THE ONES THAT ARE SPENDING LOCAL,

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SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT. COUNCILMAN HAMMOND.

I THINK THE ONLY ONE THAT'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER THIS IS TERESE MAYBE.

BUT I WANT TO SAY IN 2007, 2008, MAYBE THERE WAS A LOCAL PREFERENCE, BUT IT WAS ADMINISTRATIVE.

IT WASN'T ANYTHING THAT CAME FROM HERE. IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY AND I KNOW IT WAS I WANT TO SAY IT WAS GOD, WHO WAS IT? MAYBE IT WAS THE MAYOR THAT DID A PROCLAMATION THAT WE THAT WE DO BUSINESS WITH PALM BAY BUSINESSES. IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A PROCLAMATION, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY.

OF COURSE I KEEP EXCELLENT RECORDS. SO I FOUND THAT IN 2008 THERE WAS A RESOLUTION ADOPTED BY COUNCIL FOR A LOCAL PURCHASING PREFERENCE POLICY. SO. SO WHERE DOES THAT PUT US? IS THAT YOU SAYING YOU'RE A YES TO THIS COUNCILMAN HAMMER? I'M DEFINITELY A YES. BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S STILL IT STILL FALLS WITHIN THE GUIDELINES OF WHAT THIS COUNCIL BELIEVES IN, BECAUSE I DO ALSO BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD HEAR WHAT EVERYBODY HAS TO OFFER ON BIDS.

WE ARE TRYING TO GET BUSINESS HERE IN PALM BAY.

AND, AND I DON'T WANT TO LIMIT OTHER BUSINESSES FROM COMING HERE.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE LIKE, LIKE I REMEMBER IT, BUT I DON'T REMEMBER THE GUIDELINES.

SO I WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE TO HAVE HAVE THAT BROUGHT BACK UP FOR DISCUSSION.

I'M COOL WITH THAT, BUT I DO REMEMBER IT HAPPENING AND WOULD LIKE TO APPROACH IT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE DO NEED TO, TO FOSTER OUR BUSINESS HERE IN PALM BAY AND, AND LIKE TO KEEP OUR MONEY THAT WE SPEND HERE IN PALM BAY.

BUT ON THE BACKSIDE, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT WE NEED TO BRING BUSINESS HERE TO PALM BAY AND GET THE BEST SERVICE THAT WE CAN.

I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, I MEAN, I THINK ONE OF OUR BEST VENDORS WE'VE EVER HAD IS, I DON'T KNOW WHERE CATHCART'S FROM, BUT IF SOMEBODY CAME IN AND THEY HAD A HAND UP ON CATHCART LIKE, LIKE, YEAH, THERE'S TWO WAYS OF LOOKING AT IT.

WHERE, WHERE, WHERE, WHERE I LIKE THE VENDOR PERFORMANCE REVIEWS AND HAVE THOSE ON FILE.

WHERE? YEAH. OKAY. I'M GOING TO INTERJECT AT THIS TIME.

I GOT 20 MINUTES TO CONDUCT THIS MEETING AND I'M NAVIGATING FOUR DIFFERENT PERSONALITIES HERE.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'M GOING TO INTERJECT AND I'M GOING TO SAY THAT RIGHT NOW PROCUREMENT HAS THEIR HANDS FULL AND THEY'VE GOT A TASK, A TASK ALREADY THAT'S BEEN GIVEN BY OUR CITY MANAGER.

SO I'M NOT COMFORTABLE BRINGING THIS LOCAL ISSUE GOING WHEN IT'S BEEN CHALLENGING TO, TO GET BIDS ON, ON ISSUES THAT, THAT WE NEED. WE HAVE TO BE AWARE OF STAFF TIME, GENTLEMEN, AND IN, IN CREATING ANOTHER POLICY, CREATING OTHER DISTRACTIONS. WE, WE'RE TAKING THEM AWAY FROM OTHER EFFORTS THAT THEY SHOULD BE HITTING, YOU KNOW, KNOCKING IT OUT OF THE PARK. THAT'S WHERE I'M AT RIGHT NOW.

WE COULD SIT UP HERE AND SAY, LET'S DO THIS, LET'S DO THAT.

BUT LET'S BE CONSIDERATE OF WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH RIGHT NOW.

AND LIKE YOU SAID, WE'VE GOT OTHER ISSUES GOING ON.

THERE'S GOING TO BE WE'VE GOT BUDGET COMING ON.

SO I JUST WANT TO HONE THIS ALL IN AND FOCUS ON THE TASK AT HAND.

DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR REPORT? NO SIR. IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE I SAID.

YES, SIR. I'LL MOVE. I'LL MOVE QUICK. ALL RIGHT. SO I BELIEVE I SPEAK FOR ALL THE COUNCIL THAT OVERTIME HAS BEEN A CONCERN FOR EVERYBODY.

I'VE SPOKEN ALREADY TO THE CHIEF AND I WOULD LIKE FOR US, AND I'VE ALSO LOOKED AT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND HOW THEY'VE CONDUCTED THE SECURITY OF THEIR CITY HALLS. AND I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO LOOK AT.

AND I GOT A THUMBS UP FROM THE CHIEF WHEN WE SPOKE, BUT I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO LOOK AT AN RFP PROCESS FOR A PRIVATE SECURITY FIRM IN REGARDS TO THE CITY HALL. I WOULD JUST BE OPEN TO REMOVING THE OFFICER FROM CITY HALL AND JUST PUT THEM OUT ON PATROL. I MEAN, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S RIGHT NEXT DOOR, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID WITH THE SROS AND BREVARD COUNTY SCHOOLS.

COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN? YEAH. I'M IN THE SAME BOAT AS THE DEPUTY MAYOR.

LIKE. AND AND OBVIOUSLY, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON IS TRYING TO HAVE A GOOD COMPROMISE, AND HE'S TRYING TO THINK OF THE SECURITY OF THE CITY HALL.

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AND THERE'S PEOPLE IN THAT BUILDING THAT ARE WORKING 9 TO 5.

AND THEN WE HAVE SECURITY MEASURES ON THE DOORS OF PEOPLE'S OFFICES.

BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE HAVE A GREAT POLICY THAT LETS OUR CIVILIAN STAFF MEMBERS CARRY TO WORK.

SO, I MEAN, TO AN EXTENT, IT'S LIKE, I THINK THAT WE ARE YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ONE OF THE LOWEST PER CAPITA POLICE PER RESIDENT RIGHT NOW. WE'RE TRYING TO GROW A NEW SQUAD.

TO ME, IT MAKES MORE SENSE TO JUST PUT THE OFFICER OUT ON THE STREET, IF THAT'S THE CONVERSATION.

BUT I'VE ALWAYS TOLD CHIEF, I SAID, THAT'S AT THE END OF THE DAY.

I, I'M LEAVING THAT UP TO CHIEF, BUT IF WE'RE BRINGING IT UP TO THE COUNCIL, THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION THAT WE DON'T NEED TO REALLY PAY A PRIVATE SECURITY OFFICER. WE JUST NEED TO PUT THAT GUY BACK OUT ON THE ROAD AND HAVE SOME SORT OF SYSTEM, MAYBE WHERE THERE'S A RADIO TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OR JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, IF SOMETHING REALLY HAPPENS, CALL 911, BUT YOU'RE ALLOWED TO CARRY AT WORK.

SO THAT WOULD BE MY OPINION THEN. I'M FINE WITH THAT.

LAST, LAST ONE AND I'M DONE MAYOR. IN REGARDS TO HOW OUR MEETING FLOWS AND EVERYTHING, I WOULD LIKE TO GO BACK WITH BRINGING BACK THE SECOND PUBLIC PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THE END OF THE MEETINGS.

BUT I WOULD ALSO, WHICH MAY NOT BE AS FAVORABLE, BUT I FEEL THIS WOULD INCREASE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

I WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE PROCLAMATIONS FROM THE CITY MEETINGS.

I FIND MYSELF A LOT OF THE TIMES WHEN I'M DELIVERING PROCLAMATIONS.

YES, I'VE DONE THEM HERE, BUT SO MORE OFTEN I'M GOING INTO THE COMMUNITY.

I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO OTHER AREAS TO DELIVER THE PROCLAMATION AT THEIR PLACE OF BUSINESS OR AT THEIR WHEREVER IT IS THAT THEY CONGREGATE.

I STILL WANT US TO KEEP RECOGNITIONS. I STILL WANT TO KEEP THE MAYOR'S BUSINESS SPOTLIGHT BECAUSE THAT'S BIG.

I JUST RAN INTO ZEUS EARLIER JESUS, EARLIER TODAY, AND HE'S GOTTEN BUSINESS FROM IT.

SO I THINK THAT'S A BIG VALUE. BUT IN REGARDS TO PROCLAMATIONS, I THINK US TAKING IT OFF OF THE AGENDA THAT HELPS US IN REGARDS TO GETTING TO THE CITY BUSINESS FASTER, BUT IT ALSO ENCOURAGES US TO BE BIGGER PARTICIPANTS IN COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT FOR THE ORGANIZATIONS AND WHERE THEY CONGREGATE. SO I WANT CONSENSUS FROM COUNCIL ON THAT.

I'M GONNA NO ON THE PROCLAMATIONS. I'M A YES ON THE PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THE END OF THE MEETING.

I ECHO THAT. SO, YOU KNOW, WE, WE STREAMLINED THE PROCLAMATIONS AND, YOU KNOW, SOMETIME LAST YEAR, YOU KNOW, EARLY IN MY CAREER AS SERVING ON COUNCIL, I HAD A SIMILAR SENTIMENT OF AS COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

AND NOW THAT I'M SEASONED SOMEWHAT, I, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A CIVIC DUTY I BELIEVE, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, PALM BAY PROUD AND, AND YOU KNOW, I THINK THE THREE THAT WE ALLOW PER, PER MEETINGS, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT ASK FOR US FOR, FOR THEM TO BE RECOGNIZED.

I'M, I'M AS LIKE YOU. COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON. I HAVE TAKEN PROCLAMATIONS OFF SITE AND READ THEM AND, YOU KNOW, THEY HAD A GREAT EFFECT THERE, BUT I THINK IT'S REALLY SOMETHING IMPORTANT THAT WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO DO.

AND THEN I'M OPEN AS WELL TO ADDING SECOND COMMENTS BACK AT THE END OF THE MEETING AND EXPANDING IT TO SECOND READING, ONLY SECOND COMMENTS ONLY TO TO NONRESIDENTS.

NOT NOT DURING FIRST PUBLIC COMMENTS ONLY. YOU KNOW WE HANDLE THE BUSINESS OF THE CITY.

OPEN UP THE MEETING AT THE END TO THE SECOND COMMENT SECTION, AND THEN ALLOW NONRESIDENTS TO SPEAK AT THAT TIME, AT THAT TIME, AT THAT TIME. BUT OTHER OTHER RESIDENTS COULD SPEAK AS WELL.

CORRECT. OH, I GOT YOU. YEAH. OKAY. I'M. I'M WILLING.

I LOVE THE IDEA OF BRINGING THEM BACK. I DIDN'T WANT TO SEE HIM GO.

SO YOU GOT CONSENSUS ON BRINGING THEM BACK? ANYONE ELSE? YOU DON'T WANT MY OPINION? GO AHEAD, GO AHEAD.

NO, I'M JOKING A LITTLE BIT. I'M. I VOTED TO GET RID OF HIM AT THE END.

I. I STAND WITH MY VOTE, I DON'T CARE. IT'S THE END OF THE NIGHT.

WE NEED TO FINISH BUSINESS AND GO HOME. YOU CAN CALL ME IF YOU NEED TO CALL ME. CAN'T DO THAT.

MR.. I'M ALL FOR IT, I DON'T CARE. ALL RIGHT.

COOL. SO, DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE, YOU'RE NEXT. SIR.

I YIELD MY TIME, MAYOR. COPY THAT. AND THE COUNTDOWN BEGINS BECAUSE I GOT TEN ITEMS. I'M JUST JOKING. I'M JUST JOKING. HEY, LISTEN.

SATURDAYS WE'RE CELEBRATING 250 YEARS. 250 YEARS OF OF PROSPERITY.

THIS NATION. YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT THOSE INDIVIDUALS WENT THROUGH.

AND THIS IS THE BENEFIT THAT WE ALL SHARE TODAY.

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I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. I HOPE IT DOESN'T RAIN ON OUR PARADE, BUT ZAMBELLI IS GOING TO PROVIDE OUTSTANDING FIREWORKS.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'M GOING TO SPEAK ON MR. COUNCILMAN HAMMERS ISSUE. REGARDING WE HAVE NO DOWNTOWN AND AND SUCH LIKE THAT.

HE HE WENT ON THIS. LISTEN, I, I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT WE'VE GOT THE BEST FISHING BASS FISHING, YOU KNOW, OUT WITHIN OUR NATION AND WE SHOULD CAPITALIZE ON THAT MR. MORE. NOT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. I KNOW I SHARED MY THOUGHTS WITH THE TDC AND THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO ADVERTISE THAT MORE, BUT WE HAVE HUGE TOURNAMENTS THAT COME TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

WE SHOULD BE CAPITALIZING THAT ON THAT ECONOMICALLY AND LET PALM BAY BE KNOWN AS A PLACE TO COME AND DO BASS FISHING.

THAT BEING SAID I'M GOING TO CONCLUDE BY SAYING, LISTEN, LET'S GO CELEBRATE 250 YEARS.

250 YEARS OF GOOD LOVING. IT'S UNBELIEVABLE. AND I YIELD MY TIME, MR. MORTON. YEAH. YES, SIR. YES, SIR. MR. MORTON.

[ADMINISTRATIVE AND LEGAL REPORTS:]

GOOD NIGHT. OUTSTANDING. THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.