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THE TIME IS NOW 6:00. I WILL CALL THIS REGULAR MEETING.
2026-07 OF THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD.
TO ORDER. PLEASE RISE FOR THE NATIONAL ANTHEM OR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
THAT ONE ONE OF THE TWO. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
MAY WE HAVE ROLL CALL. ABSOLUTELY, MARVIN. HERE.
REBECCA. ZIEGLER HERE. EILEEN. SEPP HERE. ANTHONY.
ABBOTT HERE. DOUGLAS. HOOK HERE. KRISTIN YONCE HERE.
WE HAVE QUORUM. THANK YOU. WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION OF THE EVENING.
I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY COMMENT CARDS TONIGHT FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
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WHICH IS MR MANGROVE PRESENTATION BY DOCTOR LAURA WILSON.EXCELLENT. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME HERE TODAY, DOUG, ESPECIALLY TO YOU FOR EXTENDING THE INVITATION TO COME SPEAK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT WE ARE VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT AT MARINE RESOURCES COUNCIL.
WE DO A LOT OF STORMWATER EDUCATION AND ADVOCACY.
WE DO WATER QUALITY TESTING AND REPORTING, AND THEN WE ARE MANGROVE PEOPLE.
SO WE OPERATE ONE OF THE LARGEST LICENSED MANGROVE NURSERIES IN THE STATE.
THIS IS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH JULY 26TH IS INTERNATIONAL MANGROVE DAY.
SO WE'RE VERY HAPPY FOR THE SUPPORT THAT PALM BAY SHOWN US.
SO WHEN IT COMES TO MANGROVES ACROSS THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON, WE DO HAVE THREE SPECIES THAT ARE NATIVE HERE, REDS, WHICH ARE THE ONES THAT YOU TYPICALLY SEE IN THE WATER, BLACKS, WHICH ARE KIND OF OUR BABY BEARS JUST RIGHT.
AND THEN WHITE MANGROVES THAT LIKE IT A LITTLE BIT DRIER AND UPLAND.
AND THEY FORM THIS VERY UNIQUE ECOSYSTEM ALONG OUR SHORE WAYS AND IN TROPICAL ECOSYSTEMS. HISTORICALLY, THOUGH, ALONG THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON, WE'VE LOST ABOUT 75 TO 80% OF OUR MANGROVES SINCE THE 1950S.
A LOT OF THIS IS DUE TO DEVELOPMENT AND ALSO TO THE ESTABLISHMENT OF MOSQUITO IMPOUNDMENTS.
SO JUST SOME IMAGES I PULLED FROM LITERATURE SHOWING WHERE THESE TYPES OF DESTRUCTION TAKE PLACE.
WE'RE ALSO SEEING SOME CHANGES DUE TO DISEASE THAT'S BEING INTRODUCED AND MOVING THROUGH FLORIDA MANGROVES, AS WELL AS JUST THE EFFECTS OF THINGS LIKE SEA LEVEL RISE OR STORMS IN TERMS OF ECOSYSTEMS. AND GENERALLY, OFTEN WE TALK ABOUT ECOSYSTEM SERVICES.
AND THIS IS JUST A WAY TO TALK ABOUT HOW THESE DIFFERENT ECOLOGIES AFFECT HUMANS, BOTH DIRECT AND INDIRECT BENEFITS THAT HUMAN POPULATIONS GET FROM THESE DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENTS.
THIS INCLUDES COASTAL PROTECTION. THIS IS OUR FIRST GUARD AGAINST STORMS. THEY HELP STOP STORM SURGE. THEY HELP DISSIPATE WAVE ENERGY, WIND ENERGY, AND STOP SALT SPRAY FROM GETTING ONTO OUR PROPERTIES WATER FILTRATION. SO THEY ARE VERY GOOD AT REMOVING THINGS LIKE NITROGEN AND PHOSPHORUS, THE THINGS THAT WE WORRY ABOUT IN THE LAGOON AND OUR WATERWAYS FOR ALGAE BLOOMS, AS WELL AS TRAPPING EXCESS HEAVY METALS. SO A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WE WORRY ABOUT GOING INTO OUR WATER, OUR MANGROVES ARE THERE TO PROTECT US. CLIMATE REGULATION.
SO MANGROVES WILL ACTUALLY ABSORB 5 TO 7 TIMES MORE CARBON THAN EVEN AN AMAZON RAINFOREST ECOSYSTEM.
SO THEY'RE REALLY GOOD AT TRAPPING CARBON AND REMOVING THAT FROM THE ATMOSPHERE, NOT ONLY PUTTING IT IN THEIR BARK AND THEIR LEAVES, BUT ALSO TRAPPING IT IN THE SOIL AS WELL. OTHER THINGS THAT WE SEE IS BIODIVERSITY.
SO A LARGE NUMBER OF SPECIES UTILIZE MANGROVES AND MANGROVE ECOSYSTEMS. AT SOME POINT DURING THEIR THEIR GROWTH CYCLE.
HERE IN THE LAGOON, WE HAVE ABOUT 44,000 SPECIES OF DIFFERENT PLANTS, ANIMALS AND MICROORGANISMS,
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MANY OF WHICH INCLUDING OUR FISH, OUR BIRDS, INVERTEBRATES, MAMMALS AND REPTILES CALLED MANGROVE ECOSYSTEMS HOME.AND THIS IS BECAUSE THEY PROVIDE A LOT OF PROTECTION FOR ANIMALS.
THESE TANGLE TOGETHER. THEY CAN THEY MAKE THESE VERY PROTECTIVE HABITATS.
AND THESE ARE OUR FISH NURSERIES. AND THEN ECO TOURISM AND RECREATION.
AND SO VERY IMPORTANT TO OUR LOCAL AND REGIONAL FISHERIES, COMMERCIAL FISHING, KAYAKING, ECO TOURISM AND EVEN THINGS LIKE PROPERTY VALUE IS TIED TO THE HEALTH OF THE MANGROVE ECOSYSTEMS. SO I KNOW THIS IS REALLY SMALL AND I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL OF THIS, BUT JUST SOME OF THE FUN FACTS THAT I FOUND OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, LOOKING AT AT ECO OR AT MANGROVE ECOSYSTEMS, THAT WHEN IT COMES TO CENTRAL AND SOUTH FLORIDA, ABOUT 75% OF OUR COMMERCIAL FISH AND 90% OF OUR RECREATIONAL FISH USE MANGROVE ECOSYSTEM SYSTEMS AT SOME POINT AS THEY'RE GROWING UP.
SO INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO OUR FISHERIES. IN TERMS OF SHORELINE RESILIENCE, THEY HAVE ABOUT A $6.8 BILLION ANNUAL ECOSYSTEM SERVICES RELATED TO SHORELINE PROTECTION.
AND IN 2022, FOLLOWING HURRICANE IAN, THAT $4.1 BILLION ALONE IS ATTRIBUTED TO WHAT WAS SAVED THROUGH HAVING MANGROVE ECOSYSTEMS. AND THEY ACTUALLY CUT STORM SURGES BY 30%, AND THEN THEY TRAP THEIR NITROGEN AND PHOSPHORUS.
YOU CAN THINK ABOUT ONE ACRE OF GOLF COURSE. THE NITROGEN THAT RUNS OFF OF THAT DUE TO FERTILIZER TAKES ABOUT ONE ACRE OF MANGROVE FORESTS TO REMOVE FROM OUR ECOSYSTEMS. SO WITHOUT MANGROVES, WE HAVE A LOT OF ISSUES, BUT WE HAVE A TENDENCY TO TALK ABOUT DIFFERENT ECOSYSTEMS ALONG THE LAGOON, IN THE LAGOON AND ALONG THE OCEAN COAST SEPARATELY, WHEN REALLY THEY'RE ALL INTERCONNECTED.
SO WE TALK ABOUT SEAGRASS AND SEAGRASS RESTORATION A LOT.
THAT'S A BIG GOAL FOR THE FOR THE ECOSYSTEM OR FOR THE LAGOON.
OTHERWISE, THE SEAGRASS GETS COVERED BY SEDIMENTS.
CORAL REEFS ARE THE SAME. THE NUTRIENTS AND HEAVY METAL CALLED CALLS.
THE ALGAE BLOOMS, WHICH KILL OFF THE THE THE SEAGRASS.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THEY LEAVE OUR COAST VULNERABLE.
AND SOME OF THIS IS FEAR AND SOME OF THIS IS MISCONCEPTION.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT MANGROVES ARE TO A HEALTHY ECOSYSTEM.
SO IN 1996, FLORIDA MADE IT ILLEGAL TO CUT THEM DOWN, WHICH IS GREAT.
BUT THIS HAS THEN LED TO A LOT OF FEAR OF PEOPLE PUTTING MANGROVES ON THEIR LAND BECAUSE THEY THINK THEY CAN NEVER TOUCH IT AGAIN, AND THEY'RE KIND OF TRAPPED AND, YOU KNOW, AFRAID TO COMMIT BECAUSE IT'S A LIFETIME COMMITMENT.
ANOTHER THING IS WHEN WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT MOVE INTO FLORIDA OR MOVED TO SHORELINES AND COASTLINES THERE, UNAWARE THAT MANGROVES ARE PROTECTED. AND SO WE DO A LOT OF WORK AT MARINE RESOURCES COUNCIL, MITIGATING NEW HOME WITH NEW HOMEOWNERS WHO GET CAUGHT ILLEGALLY REMOVING MANGROVES.
SO TO ADDRESS SOME OF THAT, WE DO A LOT OF EDUCATION AND ADVOCACY WITH.
IT IS ILLEGAL TO REMOVE MANGROVES WITHOUT A PERMIT.
HOWEVER, A PERMIT IS NOT NEEDED TO PLANT THEM, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE ABOVE THE MEAN HIGH WATER LINE.
AND SO THIS IS SOMETHING ELSE. WE SEE PEOPLE THINK THEY NEED A PERMIT TO RESTORE THEIR SHORELINES.
SO THIS IS FROM THE FDEP. SHOWING THE TRIMMING GUIDELINES IS THAT ONCE A MANGROVE REACHES SIX FEET, YOU CAN START TRIMMING IT. ANYTHING BELOW SIX FEET DON'T TOUCH IT.
BUT BETWEEN 6FT AND 10FT YOU CAN TRIM IT YOURSELF.
YOUR NORMAL LAWN CARE, YOUR HUSBAND YOURSELF CAN TRIM IT ALL THAT WELL, NOT ALL THAT THEY WANT, BUT WITHIN A HEALTHY RANGE. AND SO WITH THIS, WE SEE THINGS LIKE HEDGING AS WELL AS WINDOWING THAT CAN OCCUR WITH
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MANGROVES. SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO, A LOT OF THE RESISTANCE IS BLOCKING WATER VIEW.THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S NECESSARILY A RESPONSE OR GONE TO RESPONSE FROM PLANNING MANGROVES IS THAT YOU CAN TRIM THEM EVEN WITHOUT A PERMIT AND WITHOUT A CERTIFIED MANGROVE TRIMMER BETWEEN 6 AND 10FT.
SO, MARCY, I GOT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MANGROVES AT MARCY.
LIKE I MENTIONED, WE ARE ONE OF THE LARGEST LICENSED.
FDACS. AND SO WE HAVE A SMALL NURSERY HERE IN PALM BAY.
SO WE WORK BOTH IN THE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SECTOR.
WE ARE ALSO A RESEARCH NURSERY. SO THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT WE TALK ABOUT A WHOLE LOT.
BUT BECAUSE WE HAVE SUCH A LARGE OPERATION AND WE'RE PRETTY MUCH THE FIRST HIT THAT COMES UP ON GOOGLE FOR MANGROVES, WE GET A LOT OF RESEARCHERS COME VISIT US. SO THESE ARE JUST THREE EXAMPLES FROM LAST MONTH ALONE, WHERE WE HAD STUDENTS FROM FLORIDA INTERNATIONAL UNIVERSITY COME BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING BIOMIMICRY.
THEY'RE LOOKING AT MANGROVE ROOTS AND SEEING HOW THEY CAN CREATE STRUCTURES THAT ACTUALLY HELP STABILIZE OUR SHORELINES BASED ON HOW MANGROVES ENGINEER SHORELINES. WE HAD A A NONPROFIT LEADER AND NASA AMBASSADOR FROM SARASOTA COME OUT LOOKING AT THE WAVE LENGTH EMITTED THE LIGHT WAVELENGTH EMITTED BY THE DIFFERENT SPECIES OF MANGROVES SO THAT WE CAN BETTER LOOK AT RESTORATION AND FOREST COVERAGE USING SATELLITE IMAGERY. AND THEN IN 2024, WE ACTUALLY LOST ABOUT 78% OF OUR JUVENILE MANGROVES ARE ONE YEAR AND TWO YEAR OLD MANGROVES TO A DISEASE THAT CAME THROUGH CALLED MANGROVE.
THE ANALOGY I MAKE IS THAT IT'S LIKE SHINGLES.
AND IT'S REALLY THE SAME THING WITH MANGROVE C AND P, COLD SNAPS, BIG WIND EVENTS, THINGS LIKE THAT, THEY BECOME MORE SUSCEPTIBLE, ESPECIALLY JUST LIKE HUMAN POPULATIONS, IF THEY'RE REALLY YOUNG OR REALLY OLD.
SO WE'RE STARTING TO SEE SOME LOSSES DUE TO THAT.
BUT THAT'S PRETTY MUCH, YOU KNOW WHO WE ARE AND WHAT WE DO.
AND WE LOVE OUR MANGROVES. SO DEFINITELY COME VISIT US IN PALM BAY.
BOARD. IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED DOUG CAN DEFINITELY GET YOUR INFORMATION AS WELL.
SO EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? I DO AS USUAL. WHEN YOU PLANT THE MANGROVES DO THEY 100% OF THE TIME TAKE SO RIGHT NOW OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS, WE'VE HAD A 92% SUCCESS RATE.
FDEP FOR MITIGATION REQUIRES AN 80% SUCCESS RATE.
SO WE'RE HIGHER THAN THE THRESHOLD. A LOT OF THIS IS DUE TO WE NOW PLANT OLDER TREES, SO WE PLANT TREES THAT COME IN THREE GALLON POTS, WHICH MEANS THEY'RE USUALLY A 3 TO 4 YEAR OLD TREE.
SO THEY'RE A LOT MORE ESTABLISHED. WE PRE-TREAT THEM.
SO EVERYTHING WE PUT IN THE GROUND, WE PRE-TREAT FOR THIS PATHOGEN, WHICH MAKES THEM MORE RESISTANT.
AND THEN WE WE DON'T PLANT DURING HURRICANE SEASON.
SO OUR RESTORATION TEAMS DON'T GO OUT PRETTY MUCH BETWEEN JUNE AND END OF OCTOBER.
BECAUSE WHEN HURRICANES COME THROUGH OR EVEN THE KING TIDES IN NOVEMBER, THEY CAN WASH THEM OUT.
SO WITH THOSE THREE FACTORS, WE'VE REALLY SEEN OUR, OUR SURVIVABILITY INCREASE.
AND IF LIGHTNING OR A STORM KNOCKS ONE DOWN, DOES THE HOMEOWNER GET A BIND FOR THAT?
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NO ACTS OF NATURE ARE COVERED UNDER THE MANGROVE TRIMMING ACT.THERE ARE A FEW THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH THE FDEP ON.
UNDER THE MANGROVE TRIMMING ACT, YOU ACTUALLY CAN'T REMOVE LEGALLY DEAD AND DISEASED MANGROVES.
I MEAN, DEAD MANGROVES CAN STILL PERFORM A LOT OF HABITAT OR ECOSYSTEM SERVICES THAT BRS CAN STILL NEST IN THEM, AND THEY WILL ACTUALLY STILL ANCHOR THE SEDIMENT IN PLACE.
BUT WE'VE RUN INTO WHEN WE RUN, WHEN WE FIND BIG DIE OFFS DUE TO THIS PATHOGEN, WE'RE HAVING TROUBLE GETTING PERMITS TO REMOVE THEM TO PLANT HEALTHY TREES. SO THERE ARE THERE ARE A FEW LITTLE HICCUPS ALONG THE WAY.
YEAH, I WOULD THINK LIKE ANY DISEASE, IT'S CONTAGIOUS.
IT IS. SO IT'S AIRBORNE WATER BORNE AND INSECT BORNE.
FUN. YEAH. GOOD TIMES. SO DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBERS WITH QUESTIONS? MR. CHAIR, I DO HAVE A QUESTION WITH REGARDS TO THE MANGROVES.
CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT THE SHORELINE ASPECT OF IT? I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT FROM THAT ASPECT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT IT HAS A A PROTECTIVE ASPECT FOR THE LANDSCAPE.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT MRC HAS DEALT WITH IN THE PAST? YES. SO WE USE THEM TO SO WE USE THEM EITHER A PLANTED SHORELINE BY ITSELF, WHICH THOUGH WILL HELP DISSIPATE THAT STORM ENERGY, RECRUIT SEDIMENT AND KEEP THAT SEDIMENT IN PLACE.
SO YOU'RE ACTUALLY BUILDING MORE SHORELINE BY USING THE PLANTS.
YOU'RE ALSO PROVIDING MORE HABITAT. SO WE HAVE A HABIT.
WE HAVE A TENDENCY TO PUT IN SEAWALLS FOR EXAMPLE, FOR SHORELINE STABILITY THAT'S ACTUALLY ECOLOGICALLY THE MOST DISRUPTIVE THING THAT WE CAN DO BECAUSE IT COMPLETELY SEPARATES LAND FROM WATER.
AND WE HAVE A LOT OF PLANTS AND ANIMALS THAT NEED ACCESS TO BOTH LAND AND WATER.
SOMETIMES WE'LL DO A LOT OF WORK WITH WITH BREAKWATERS AS WELL.
SO AN ENGINEERED SHORELINE STABILITY THAT COMES IN AND YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT LIKE ROCK REVETMENT, IT'S NOT A SEAWALL, BUT YOU PLACE THEM ABOUT TEN FEET INTO THE WATER AND THEN THEY RECRUIT SEDIMENT BEHIND THEM.
SO THEY'RE FOR BUILDING THE BEACH. SO YOU HAVE MORE OF THAT RESISTANCE OR MORE OF THAT SURFACE AREA.
AND THEN WE PLANT TREES BEHIND THEM AND GRASSES BEHIND THEM.
SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT WAYS DEPENDING ON THE ENERGY, DEPENDING ON THE DEPTH OF THE WATER.
AND DEPENDING ON THE NATURE OF THE SHORELINE THAT WE TAKE INTO ACCOUNT WHEN WE COME UP WITH A SOLUTION FOR SHORELINE PROBLEMS. OKAY. AND YOU MENTIONED THREE TYPES, I THINK AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF YOUR PRESENTATION WITH REGARDS TO TYPES OF MANGROVES.
BUT I'M REALLY CURIOUS AS TO THAT ASPECT, LIKE THE STORMWATER, BUT ALSO JUST TO SEE WHAT LOCAL PROBLEMS YOU'VE EXPERIENCED WITH THE MRC THAT WE COULD PROBABLY HAVE IN OUR MINDS AS A SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD.
SO I THINK WHEN OPPORTUNITIES COME FOR SHORELINE STABILIZATION AND FOR LIVING SHORELINES, THAT MANGROVES ARE A PART OF THAT, YOU KNOW, CORDGRASS, SPARTINA, THINGS LIKE THAT.
THEY'RE GREAT. THEY'RE NATIVE, BUT THEY DON'T PRESERVE.
THEY DON'T PERFORM OR DO THE SAME THINGS THAT MANGROVES DO.
AND SO IT'S REALLY MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE KIND OF A FULL PICTURE VERSUS JUST ONE OF THE PICTURE.
JUST PUT, YOU KNOW, 1000 1200FT OF REEF ARCH WAVE BREAKS ALONG THE SOUTH PART OF THE LAGOON HOUSE PROPERTY IN PALM BAY, WHICH IS OUR HEADQUARTERS. AND SO NOW THAT THEY'RE BUILDING BEACH BEHIND THEM, I'M HOPEFULLY BE ABLE TO WORK WITH THE CITY TO PUT IN A GRANT FOR SORREL TO SAVE OUR INDIAN RIVER LAGOON FUNDING TO COME WITH 750FT.
SO ANYWHERE FROM 250 TO TO 500 MANGROVES BEHIND THEM TO HELP FLESH OUT THE, THE ECOSYSTEM, RESTORE THE ECOSYSTEM, AND PROVIDE SOME OF THAT NUTRIENT REDUCTION AND HABITAT SERVICES THAT COME FROM MANGROVES.
NOTHING FURTHER, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
YES, MA'AM. YOU'RE ALLOWED TO ENFORCE VIOLATION OR WHAT DO YOU DO? YOU GIVE FINES TO PEOPLE OR. SO WE DON'T. IT'S ALL DONE THROUGH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION.
SO ANYBODY A LOT OF TIMES IT'S NEIGHBORS TURNING IN NEIGHBORS FOR WHEN WE GET STEPPED IN THAT THEY'LL COME TO THE, THE, THE PERSON, THE FAMILY, THE HOMEOWNER THAT VIOLATES AND CUTS DOWN EITHER ON PURPOSE OR ACCIDENTALLY THE MANGROVES,
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THEY'LL GET PENALIZED. THEY'LL COME TO US ASKING FOR A PLANTING.THEY HAVE TO PAY A FINE AND THEN THEY HAVE TO REPLANT AS WELL.
AND THAT'S DONE AT THE STATE LEVEL. THAT'S DONE AT THE STATE LEVEL.
OKAY. YEAH. SO WE DON'T DO ANY ENFORCEMENT OR RULEMAKING.
WE COME IN AFTER THEIR VIOLATIONS USUALLY. SO WE TRY TO ADVOCATE.
SO THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH WE GET TO SELL TREES, WHICH, YOU KNOW, IS NICE, WE'D RATHER HAVE 30 YEAR OLD TREES DOING THEIR FULL ECOSYSTEM SERVICES THAN HAVE TO GO IN AND START FROM SCRATCH.
I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. YES, MA'AM. THE FIRST ONE IS CAN YOU CLARIFY? YOU SAID THAT YOU HAVE MONTHLY MEETINGS AT THE PALM BAY. AND SEBASTIAN, IS THAT AT THE MARINE RESOURCE COUNCIL? YEAH. SO AT THE LAGOON HOUSE. OKAY. SO THE THIRD FIRST FRIDAY.
NO. THIRD FRIDAY, SECOND FRIDAY, SECOND FRIDAY, SECOND FRIDAY OF THE MONTH.
OKAY, COOL. AND THEN MY ONLY OTHER QUESTION IS NOT RELATED TO MANGROVES.
BUT I HAD A QUESTION. YOU MIGHT HAVE AN ANSWER FOR IT.
IS THERE ANY WORK THAT MARINE RESOURCE COUNCIL IS DOING.
FOR THE INTERNATIONAL COASTAL CLEANUP THIS YEAR.
SO WE HAVEN'T STARTED PLANNING THAT YET. USUALLY WE DO A CLEANUP ALONG THE SHORELINE AND THEN HELP SOME OF THE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS BY GETTING WORD OUT SO THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR VOLUNTEERS KNOW ABOUT THOSE OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL.
OKAY. THANK YOU. EXCELLENT. MR. CHAIR? YES, SIR.
ACTUALLY, I HAD TWO ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, SO I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THE.
RISK WITH REGARDS TO HAVING MANGROVES AND FOR THE ENVIRONMENT AND THE COST.
YOU MENTIONED A SECOND TIME ABOUT SAILING. I FORGOT TO ASK ABOUT THAT. SO WHEN I'M TALKING ABOUT RISK OF UTILIZING MANGROVES IN THE FUTURE IF THERE'S ANY RISK PER SE, AND THEN THE COST OF INSTALLING ONE OF THE MANGROVES, ONE OF THE TWO I THINK WAS THE THE RED MANGROVE AND THE BLACK MANGROVES.
IS THAT CORRECT? SO WE SELL RED BLACKS AND WHITES.
OKAY. AND WE HAVE EVERYTHING FROM LIKE A ONE GALLON SAPLING ESSENTIALLY TO TEN FOOT TALL TREES.
AND THOSE COME IN AT $45. OKAY. AND THEN THERE'S A SECOND PART THAT I FORGOT.
OH, THE, THE RISKS. AS A VERY PRO MANGROVE PERSON, I'D SAY THAT THEY'RE NOT ANY RISKS.
YOU KNOW, OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT I GUESS IF THE MANGROVE DIES, YOU'RE STUCK WITH THE DEAD MANGROVE ON YOUR PROPERTY UNTIL WE CAN WORK WITH THE FDEP BETTER. ABOUT GETTING THAT REPLACED. OTHER THAN THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE POSITIVE THINGS ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE IS THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY SEEING MANGROVE ECOSYSTEMS SPREADING QUITE RAPIDLY THROUGH FLORIDA.
AND NOW WE HAVE THEM UP INTO COASTAL GEORGIA.
SO WE ARE SEEING MORE MANGROVE HABITAT, BUT THAT IS COMING AT THE EXPENSE OF SALT MARSHES.
SO GOODS AND BADS. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I'D LOVE TO. IF YOU HAD ANY REPORTS FROM THE MRC WITH REGARDS TO THE LIKE THE DISTRIBUTION OF MANGROVES ACROSS THE PALM BAY, I'M SURE YOU ALL HAVE SOME SORT OF MAP OF SOME SORT. I'D LOVE TO SEE THAT. OKAY.
IF POSSIBLE. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. I'LL SEND YOU SOME FOLLOW UP.
YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A FEW MYSELF. OKAY. I ALWAYS TRY TO GO LAST, LIKE, COMPREHENSIVE EXAMS ALL OVER AGAIN.
YES. FIRST OFF, I WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT AND DOING THE PRESENTATION FOR US.
I ALSO WANTED TO THANK YOUR TEAM FOR BRINGING FORTH MANGROVE DAY TO THE PALM BAY CITY COUNCIL.
THAT WAY WE COULD RECOGNIZE IT AS A CITY. I BELIEVE THERE WAS, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, ON SOCIAL MEDIA, SEVEN DIFFERENT MUNICIPALITIES. NINE. NINE. YES.
THERE IS A PROJECT THAT THE CITY OF PALM BAY HAS RECENTLY PUT IN PLACE.
I'VE SEEN IT IN PERSON. IT'S DOING FANTASTIC WORK OF SOME SHORELINE MITIGATION.
BUT LIKE DOCTOR LAURA SAID, BACK BEHIND THAT, IT'S RATHER DEGRADED.
AND KIND OF TRASHY FOR A LACK OF A BETTER TERM.
SO IF POSSIBLE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD PARTNER WITH MRC TO TRY TO BRING FORTH A PROJECT TO THE PALM BAY CITY COUNCIL. THAT WAY WE CAN WORK ON GETTING A SHORELINE RESTORATION PROJECT TAKEN BACK FROM THERE.
FROM MY EARLY DISCUSSIONS WITH DOCTOR LAURA, THERE WOULD BE NO COST TO THE CITY INVOLVED IN IT.
IT WOULD PRIMARILY BE A APPROVAL OF BEING ABLE TO DO THE PROJECT ON THEIR LAND.
MRC WOULD TAKE THE LEAD ON ANY GRANT FUNDING TRYING TO IDENTIFY THAT GRANT FUNDING.
THEY'D ALSO TAKE THE LEAD ON PROVIDING VOLUNTEERS.
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SO I THINK IT'S A VERY LOW RISK, HIGH REWARD SITUATION FOR BOTH THE BOARD AND THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO PARTAKE IN SOMETHING LIKE THAT.SO I WOULD LIKE TO KIND OF BRIEFLY HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH THE BOARD, KIND OF GET WHERE THEIR HEADS ARE TO SEE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY BRING FORWARD TO THE CITY COUNCIL AT A SOON MEETING.
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC SHORELINE? YES. SO BACK BEHIND THE LAGOON HOUSE, THERE'S A I S WHAT'S THE TRAIL CALLED? ICE TRAIL OR ICE PARK? ICE PARK. ICE POINT PARK? YEAH, ICE POINT PARK IS BACK BEHIND THE LAGOON HOUSE.
IT IS ON PUBLICLY AVAILABLE FOR PALM BAY OR ANYBODY, REALLY.
BUT IT'S PALM BAY OWNED LAND. THAT MRC JUST HAPPENS TO BE THE STEWARDS OF.
SO IT'S MORE A SITUATION WHERE WE WOULD BRING IT FORTH TO THE CITY, MAKE SURE WE GET APPROVAL ON THERE, AND THEN MRC WOULD BE ABLE TO KIND OF TAKE THE LEAD ON THE WHOLE PROJECT. WE DID A SIMILAR PROJECT IN 2024 ON THE NORTH SHORE LINE.
SO THE PROPERTY'S KIND OF THREE DIFFERENT PARCELS.
NORTH SHORELINE IS CO-OWNED BY THE SAINT JOHNS RIVER WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT AND CITY OF PALM BAY.
WE DID A TWO YEAR LONG RESEARCH WITH BREAKWATERS AND TREES BEHIND IT, AND NOW THAT THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL ABOUT 1200FT OF BREAKWATERS THE SOUTHERN 750FT HAS PRETTY MUCH LOST ALL OF THE TREES BEHIND IT AS THE CLIFF HAS COLLAPSED ALONG US ONE SO WE'D LIKE TO GO IN AND PLANT MANGROVES, SPARTINA GRASSES, AND THEN MAYBE SOME THINGS LIKE MUHLY GRASS, WHICH WILL HELP STABILIZE THE CLIFF BANK BEHIND IT.
AND THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO BE FULLY OPERATED THROUGH THE MARINE COUNCIL RESOURCE.
WE WOULD PUT IN. SO RIGHT NOW WE'D GO FOR THE COUNTY, SAVE OUR INDIAN RIVER LAGOON FUNDING FOR 750FT OF LIVING SHORELINE, WHICH WOULD BE ABOUT $13,000 IN CHANGE BASED ON NITROGEN REMOVALS, AND THAT WOULD MOSTLY COVER PLANTS.
AND THEN WE WOULD MATCH WITH VOLUNTEER AND STAFF TIME FOR THE PLANTING.
WELL, FIRST, I THINK WE NEED TO DO A MOTION RIGHT NOW.
WE'VE GOT DISCUSSING PUBLIC COMMENTS. DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS BEFORE WE DIVE INTO WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH WHATEVER THE MOTION IS GOING TO BE? I THIS TIME I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS. IF WE WOULD LIKE TO BRING FORWARD THE MOTION, WE CAN ENTERTAIN THAT. I MOVE TO DISCUSS THE POSSIBLE PROJECT WITH MRC.
OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION TO DISCUSS THE PROJECT WITH MRC.
IS THAT GOING TO BE DURING TONIGHT'S MEETING? YES, DURING TONIGHT'S MEETING. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO DISCUSS THE MRC PROJECT AT TONIGHT'S MEETING.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. OKAY, WE HAVE A SECOND.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE.
I. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE WILL AT THIS TIME.
WOULD WE LIKE TO BRING THAT FORTH AS THE FOLLOWING NEW BUSINESS ITEM? JUST WHILE WE'RE ON THE DISCUSSION WE HAVE DOCTOR LAURA HERE.
CAN I ASK IF LAURA IS PREPARED TO DO THIS RIGHT NOW? DEPENDS ON THE QUESTIONS. I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT SO.
YES, SIR. SO CITY STAFF, BASED ON THE PROPOSITION THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED BRIEFLY DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENTS OF DOCTOR LAURA WILSON FROM THE MARINE RESOURCE COUNCIL, I CAN INFER THAT OTHER ORGANIZATIONS HAVE DONE THIS BEFORE.
WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS WITH REGARDS TO THIS THIS PROPOSAL.
WHAT ARE THE RISKS THAT WE MIGHT INCUR AND WHAT THINGS CAN WE LEARN FROM THE PAST? I THINK THE BIGGEST THING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO WANT TO KEEP IN MIND IS COUNCIL IS GOING TO ASK YOU ABOUT MAINTENANCE, JUST LIKE WITH REMEMBRANCE GARDEN AND HOW YOU'RE YOU'RE INSTALLING SOMETHING ON CITY PROPERTY THAT MAY AT SOME POINT, IF THE BOARD EVER DISSOLVED OR MOVED IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION, CITY MIGHT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT.
THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO KNOW ABOUT HOW THE LAND IS USED, HOW IT'S GOING TO IMPACT THE LAND, CHANGE IT FOR BETTER OR FOR WORSE. AND THEN IS THERE A MAINTENANCE COST THE CITY IS GOING TO BE STUCK WITH IN THE FUTURE? THAT'S REALLY ABOUT IT. BUT AS FAR AS JUST SIMPLY TAKING TO THE PROJECT TO COUNCIL FOR JUST AS A PROPOSAL FOR SOMETHING THAT TO DO OR TO ALLOW THEM TO USE THE PROPERTY, I DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEM WITH IT.
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BECAUSE THE MANGROVES, AS YOU DISCUSSED BEFORE, MANAGING THE SHORELINE ALSO IMPACTS STORMWATER.DOES ANY. ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS FOR.
IN LIGHT OF OUR PAST DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE MS4 PERMIT, WHERE SOME ADDITIONAL FACTORS COULD BE INTERTWINED? IT YOU TAKE IT OR AND IT'S KIND OF A HARD ONE TO EXPLAIN IN ORDER FOR THE CITY TO GET BENEFIT FROM IT, THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO TAKE MAINTENANCE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE OF THE AREA, AND WE WOULD HAVE TO PURCHASE ALL OF THE MANGROVES AND STUFF AND REPORTED ON, ON OUR B MAP, WHICH IS A BASIN MAP ACTION PLAN.
IT'S THE ONLY WAY THAT THE CITY WOULD GET ANY BENEFIT FROM IT.
AS FAR AS THE T N AND T P REMOVALS CREDITS THAT COME WITH IT.
YEAH, UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S GOT TO BE A MAJOR CITY EFFORT.
I MEAN, THERE WAS THE OYSTER REEFS THAT JUST WENT IN OVER BY CASTAWAY POINT PARK.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, EVEN THOUGH WE ALLOWED THEM TO USE THE LAND, IT'S NOT A CITY INITIATIVE. IT'S NOT A STORMWATER PROJECT THAT THE CITY WAS, WAS, YOU KNOW, DRIVE THE DRIVING FORCE BEHIND.
SO IT'S NOT ANYTHING WE CAN GET CREDIT ON. AND THE SAME WOULD PROBABLY APPLY HERE AS WELL.
OKAY. THANK YOU, MISTER CHAIR, IF I MAY. IF I COULD DIRECT A FEW QUESTIONS TO DOCTOR WILSON.
YES, SIR. DO YOU MIND JUST BACKING UP A LITTLE BIT? I KNOW THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR HAVE A LOT OF KNOWLEDGE, BUT JUST TO GIVE ME A BRIEF UNDERSTANDING OF THE FIVE W'S AS TO REGARDS TO WHAT THIS PROPOSAL IS, WHERE IS THIS GOING TO BE LOCATED? SO I HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT I'M I'M SUPPORTING AND WE UNDERSTAND THE RISK INVOLVED BEFORE WE PUSH A A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL, PLEASE. OKAY, SO THE LAGOON HOUSE PROPERTY, WE'LL JUST CALL IT THAT.
IT'S 11 ACRES OWNED MOSTLY BY THE CITY. THE CENTER PORTION, WHICH THE LAGOON HOUSE IS ON, AND THE SOUTH PORTION ARE COMPLETELY OWNED BY THE CITY.
THE LAGOON HOUSE PORTION HAS BEAUTIFUL MANGROVE FRINGE IN FRONT OF IT.
THOSE WERE RESTORED IN 2024 2025. NO MAINTENANCE IS REQUIRED BECAUSE THE PROPERTY ACTUALLY SITS ON LIKE A 20 FOOT CLIFF THAT IS ACTIVELY ERODING INTO THE LAGOON, WHICH IS WHY WE'VE DONE OR Y'ALL AND US HAVE DONE STABILIZATION ALONG THE SHORELINE TO STOP THAT EROSION.
SO THE CITY OWNS THE LAND, THE SOUTH PARCEL, WHICH IS THE REALLY WHERE THE 750FT IS OWNED BY THE CITY, BUT WAS PURCHASED WITH FLORIDA COMMUNITY TRUST FUNDING.
SO IT'S ALREADY PURCHASED FOR CONSERVATION TO BE HELD IN CONSERVATION.
THE CITY HAS A MINOR KIND OF OUT AND BACK QUARTER MILE, THIRD MILE TRAIL, PART OF WHICH HAS FALLEN INTO THE LAGOON DUE TO THE EROSION. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THE SHORELINE ITSELF IS ACTUALLY ONLY ACCESSIBLE THROUGH A SET OF STAIRS RIGHT OFF THE LAGOON HOUSE.
AND THERE'S NOT A PATH OR ANYTHING DOWN THERE, SO I, THE CITY ALREADY OWNS THE PROPERTY.
THEY'VE ALREADY INVESTED THE SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS INTO THE BREAKWATERS THEMSELVES.
AND THEN I WOULD FORESEE NO MAINTENANCE ON THE TREES BECAUSE IT'S NOT A PARK.
LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO WALK OFF OF THE TRAIL AND GET TO THE WATER.
SO I WOULDN'T SUGGEST ANY SORT OF MAINTENANCE ON THE TREES NEEDED.
YOU'RE JUST GOING TO WANT THEM AND GROW. AND THEY'LL EVENTUALLY GROW UP TO THE TRAIL LEVEL.
SO I REALLY DON'T SEE ANY MAINTENANCE ONCE THEY'RE PUT IN.
THERE'S NO SORT OF DOCK, FISHING DOCK, BOAT LAUNCH OR WATER RECREATION LAUNCH THERE.
I JUST HAVE ONE SMALL QUESTION ON YOUR ON YOUR PRESENTATION.
IT SHOWS THAT THERE ARE 24 FOOT TALL. DO THEY GET ANY TALLER THAN THAT? GENERALLY OR USUALLY NOT. SO 20 TO 25 IS ABOUT MAX.
I ACTUALLY THINK IT WOULD BE AWESOME TO SEE A 24 FOOT MANGROVE.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE AWESOME. SO I MEAN THE THE MATURE ONES, I MEAN, THEY'RE 20 YEARS OLD, SIT IN FRONT OF THE LAGOON HOUSE. AND THEY'RE LOOKING REALLY NICE.
THEY, THERE'S SOME SEA OR SEA GRAPES IN THERE THAT TOOK A HIT DURING THE FROST AND FREEZE, BUT THE REDS LOOK GREAT. YEAH, THE ONLY REASON I WAS ASKING THAT WAS BECAUSE I DO KNOW AT SOME POINT WE TRY NOT TO CAUSE ANY, LIKE, VISUAL HAZARDS AND STUFF FROM THE ROADWAY. SO I WAS TRYING TO MAKE SURE THEY WEREN'T GOING TO GROW TALLER THAN THE EMBANKMENT ON THE SIDE OF THE US ONE.
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SO THAT'S THE ONLY REASON BECAUSE THEY'RE MATURE ONES AND OTHER PORTIONS.AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, I'M, I PROPOSED THIS TO THE CITY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE MANGROVE PEOPLE.
AND IT ACTUALLY GETS SUBMITTED UNDER PALM BAY.
DOCTOR WILSON, MAY I ASK A QUESTION AS WELL? IS THERE ANY POSSIBILITY.
AND I'M JUST THINKING IN TERMS OF I COME FROM A BUILDING BACKGROUND.
SO WHEN THEY BUILD A SUBDIVISION OR AN APARTMENT COMPLEX THERE'S A LOAD CALCULATION FOR WATER THAT GOES THROUGH WHERE THEY HAVE TO FLUSH EVERY SINGLE TOILET AT ONE TIME TO MAKE SURE THE SYSTEM CAN HANDLE IT. SO I'M GOING TO THINK IN THAT MANNER WHEN I ASK YOU THIS QUESTION, EVEN THOUGH IT'S PROBABLY UNLIKELY, IF IS THERE ANY KIND OF POSSIBILITY WHERE MAYBE A HURRICANE CAN DESTROY A MANGROVE, UPROOT THEM OR WHAT HAVE YOU TO WHERE THEY NEED TO BE REPAIRED, BUT THEN THAT REPAIR OR THAT RESPONSIBILITY TO REPAIR WOULD THEN FALL ONTO THE CITY.
GIVEN THE NATURE OF THE SHORELINE. YEAH, I WOULD SAY LEAVE IT.
ANYTHING THAT WOULD NEED REPAIR THAT WOULD TAKE MONEY WOULD ACTUALLY BE THE REEF ARCHES THEMSELVES.
OKAY. AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ACTUALLY A STAND ON THE NORTH SHORE LINE WHICH HAS REEF ARCHES ON IT.
OKAY, SO THANK YOU. THE TREES THEMSELVES JUST LET THEM DO THEIR THING.
SO EVEN IF EVEN IF THEY GET DAMAGED OR DIE, THEY CAN STILL STAY THERE.
THEY STILL SERVE A PURPOSE. YEP. THEY STILL SERVE A PURPOSE. GOTCHA. YEP.
OKAY. BIRDS. BIRDS LOVE TO NEST IN THEM. MR..
WE CAN DO THIS. I THINK THE VOLUNTEER CONSENT FORMS ARE PRETTY SIMPLE.
IS IT POSSIBLE THAT PRIOR TO THE SUBMISSION OF CONDITION ON THE SUBMISSION OF THIS RECOMMENDATION, BECAUSE IT SEEMS EVERYTHING. IF I'M INCORRECT. BOARD, PLEASE TELL ME NOW THAT SEEMS EVERYTHING IS GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, THAT IF WE CAN GET SOME SORT OF DOCUMENT KIND OF MEMORIALIZING THIS IDEA.
CAPTURING THIS. WHAT WAS MENTIONED BEFORE ABOUT MR. BUNT WAS ABOUT THE, THE MAINTENANCE COST SO THAT WE'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER BECAUSE WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T TOUCH THAT. BUT THAT WOULD HELP US IF WE COULD DO THAT.
THAT WHICH I'LL MENTION IN THE MOTION THAT I, IN A MINUTE OR SOMEONE ELSE CAN.
SO IN SHORT, MY QUESTION IS TO YOU TO GET A PRODUCT OF SOME SORT WHICH MEMORIALIZES WHAT WE DISCUSSED THUS FAR, THE FIVE W'S AND AND DESCRIBES HOW THE THINGS THAT YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD BE DOING AND WHICH CLEARLY DEPICT THAT THIS WOULD BE TAKEN ON BY MRC AND WOULD NOT BE A BURDEN UPON THE CITY. IT ALREADY HAS AN OVERBURDEN KIND OF DOCKET OF RESPONSIBILITIES TO TAKE CARE OF.
SO THAT WOULD HELP KIND OF FAST TRACK THIS RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL.
AND AS IT GOES THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER AND THE STAFF TO THEN BE PUSHED IN FRONT OF CITY COUNCIL ALONGSIDE THEIR MEMBERS GARDEN, AND WE HAVE OTHER INITIATIVES. THE VICE CHAIR IS LEADING AS WELL.
SO IS THAT POSSIBLE? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. OKAY, PERFECT.
WELL, I'VE GOT A DRAFT THAT I KIND OF UTILIZE A TECHNOLOGY AND FORGIVE ME IF IT'S IF IT'S ROUGH.
SO I MOVED THAT PALM BAY SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD TO RECOMMEND THAT CITY COUNCIL REQUEST THE CITY MANAGER TO TO EVALUATE THE FEASIBILITY, INITIAL COST, OR AS DESCRIBED BY MR. BUNT AND TO REPORT THE FINDINGS TO CITY COUNCIL ON THE BOARD BEFORE ANY PROJECT IS UNDERTAKEN AND THAT THIS SHOULD OCCUR CONTINGENT UPON RECEIPT FROM DOCTOR LAURA WILSON FROM THE MARINE RESOURCE COUNCIL'S RECEIPT OF THE DOCUMENT MORALIZING THIS PROPOSAL. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? NO, I THINK WE NEED A LITTLE DISCUSSION.
WE NEED A LITTLE DISCUSSION ON THAT. OKAY. I THINK BEFORE YOU'RE PRESENTING THINGS TO THE COUNCIL.
WE NEED TO DISCUSS IT WITH WHOEVER IN PUBLIC WORKS OR, YOU KNOW, ANYONE IN THE CITY, GET INFORMATION FROM THEM BECAUSE THE COUNCIL DOESN'T DO THE RESEARCH. IT'S PRETTY MUCH THE STAFF THAT DOES IT.
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TO THE CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE I'VE SEEN THEM, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF WORK HAS BEEN DONE ON THIS BOARD BEFORE.AND THEN THEY GO IN FRONT AND THEY GO, WE'RE NOT DOING THAT.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE END OF IT. SO IN ORDER TO BE PRODUCTIVE AND USEFUL TO THE CITY, WE HAVE TO DO A LITTLE MORE OF THE WORK. UNDERSTANDABLE.
SO THE MOTION DOESN'T FLY WITH ME. OKAY. OKAY.
DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION FROM OTHER MEMBERS OF THE BOARD? SURE. I'D SUGGEST THAT WE AMEND THE MOTION. SO THE MOTION IS ESSENTIALLY TO.
AS I SAID WITH REGARDS TO PALM BAY CODE SECTION 52, 34 A, WHICH I'VE MENTIONED IN THE PAST.
WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T OURSELVES. WE CAN. SO LET'S JUST GO BACK UP A LITTLE BIT.
WE CAN EITHER WE'VE DISCUSSED ALREADY WITH CITY STAFF ABOUT THE MAINTENANCE COST, AND WE CAN WAIT FOR CITY STAFF TO GET US THE EXACT COSTS BY THE NEXT MEETING, PER SE. OR WE CAN ASK THE CITY MANAGER WHO THE CITY COUNCIL WILL HAVE TO GO TO THE CITY MANAGER TO GET THROUGH THE STAFF TO DETERMINE THE COST.
OR WE CAN DO THAT INFORMALLY. I KNOW HE HAS THESE.
WE CAN MEET WITH HIM OURSELVES, BUT IF WE'RE TRYING, IF WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE MOTION THROUGH THE MEANS OF OUR BOARD HERE, WHAT I WAS TRYING TO REQUEST THROUGH THIS MOTION IS THAT THE CITY MANAGER WOULD IDENTIFY THAT SIMPLE, THAT ONE THING, THAT MAINTENANCE COST, AND THEN DETERMINE IF IT'S FEASIBLE.
AND THAT'S ONLY CONTINGENT UPON THE RECEIPT OF THIS REPORT FROM DOCTOR WILSON.
THEN WE WOULD THEN SUBMIT IT TO THE CITY. BEGUN THAT MOTION, MOVE THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER, THEN GO THROUGH THE CITY COUNCIL. SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS SUGGESTING.
SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE PERHAPS MAYBE AMEND THE MOTION ITSELF RATHER THAN LETTING THIS, THIS ENDEAVOR SIMPLY DIE WHEN WE HAVE A PERSON IN FRONT OF US WHO IS READY TO TAKE ACTION AND WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO SO.
IN A SMALL MANNER, MIGHT I SUGGEST A KIND OF TWEAK TO YOUR AMENDMENT OR TO YOUR MOTION? ABSOLUTELY, MR. CHAIR. I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD IF WE WERE TO, AS A BOARD, APPOINT A REPRESENTATIVE TO PRESENT TO THE CITY MANAGER TO APPROACH HIM FOR A MEETING AND HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.
IF WE AS A BOARD BRING FORTH A NOMINEE AND SOMEBODY WHO CAN PRESENT THAT TO THE CITY MANAGER, I THINK THAT MIGHT EXPEDITE WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH WITH MAKING SURE THAT THE CITY IS COMFORTABLE WITH THIS.
IF I MAY ASK, I THINK VICE CHAIR WOULD BE PERFECT SINCE SHE KNOWS A LOT ABOUT WATER.
BUT THAT'S MY HUMBLE OPINION, OF COURSE. LUCKY ME.
OTHERWISE WE'RE WASTING. WE'RE SPINNING WHEELS.
YEAH. I THINK IF DOCTOR LAURA IS ABLE TO GET THE BOARD SOMETHING ONCE WE HAVE SOMETHING WITH HER, THEN WE CAN HAVE THAT MEETING WITH MR. MORTON, AND WE CAN BRING TO THE TABLE EXACTLY WHAT MRC IS COMMITTING TO AND WHAT THEIR THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT IS. I CAN GET YOU A DRAFT OF THE GRANT, AND IT'LL HAVE MAPS AND EVERYTHING.
EXCELLENT. OKAY, SO WITH THAT IN MIND, SO IS EVERYTHING MOVES BY MOTION.
LET'S DO A REVISED MOTION. I MOVE THAT THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD STUDY THE ROLE OF MANGROVES AND UPON THE RECEIPT OF THE MEMORIALIZED DOCUMENT FROM DOCTOR LAURA WILSON FROM MARINE RESOURCES COUNCIL VIA VICE CHAIR, SEP. OF COURSE, IF SHE CONSENTS TO DEVELOP FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CONSIDERATION TO SUBMIT TO THE CITY MANAGER UPON.
UPON APPROVAL BY THE CITY MANAGER, WE WOULD THEN SUBMIT A FORMAL RECOMMENDATION AS A.
AS REQUIRED PER THE PRESCRIBED PROCESS, TO THEN SUBMIT THE RECOMMENDATION WITHIN THE NEXT 30 TO 60 DAYS IF APPLICABLE, MEANING IF IT CAN BE DONE BY THAT TIME FRAME.
EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A SECOND. BEFORE WE MOVE TO A VOTE, LET'S MAKE SURE THAT MISS SEP IS WILLING TO BE THE NOMINEE.
IT'S FINE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE AND A SECOND.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU.
I BELIEVE THAT WAS BEING BROUGHT FORWARD BY MR. TUDOR.
ALL RIGHT. SO OKAY. MISS JESSE'S NOT HERE, BUT.
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ALL RIGHT. GOING FORTH TO THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD BYLAWS, I NOTED A FEW CHANGES.THE PRINCIPAL THING THAT I NOTE IS THAT ARTICLE ONE, SECTION ONE.
THE FIRST SECTION SAYS THE PURPOSE AND INTENT OF THE, SHALL I SAY, THE PURPOSE OF THE INTENT OF THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD UNTIL SUCH TIME AS IT'S CHANGED. THERE ARE IN SECTION ARTICLE TWO, SECTION TWO.
THERE ARE TWO SECTIONS WHERE THERE ARE EXTRA EXTRA SPACES FOR SOME REASON.
UNDER ARTICLE FOUR, SECTION ONE, IT DOESN'T COME.
SO THERE THERE WE SHOULD CONSIDER IF WE WANT TO TONIGHT CONSIDER CHANGING OR THAT TO, TO, TO BE UNIFORM ACROSS THE BOARD BECAUSE IT THEN SAYS ARTICLE FOUR, SECTION TWO, THE DUTIES OF THE CHAIRPERSON.
BUT SECTION ONE SAYS THE THERE SHALL BE A CHAIR MAN.
AND THAT REPLICATES ITSELF AGAIN IN ARTICLE FOUR, SECTION TWO, SUBSECTION B.
AND THEN IN SECTION SEVEN WE AGAIN HAVE CHAIR MAN NEEDS BE CHAIRPERSON SECTION NINE.
IT SAYS THE SECRETARY SHALL KEEP MINUTES OF ALL MEETINGS.
BUT IT'S BASICALLY SAYS STAFF LIAISON. WE DON'T HAVE A PAID SECRETARY.
BASED ON MY UNDERSTANDING. ARTICLE FIVE, SECTION TWO, SAYS CHAIRMAN AGAIN CHAIRPERSON.
WE HAVE AN ARTICLE SIX, SECTION ONE, ANOTHER SPACE BEFORE RENEWABLE.
THAT'S UNKNOWN. ANOTHER SPACE UNDER SECTION ONE, SUBSECTION C FOR SOME REASON.
SO AT A MINIMUM, IF WE DON'T DO ANY, ANY CHANGE WHATSOEVER EXCEPT ONE, IF WE COULD SIMPLY CONSIDER INPUTTING THE WORD SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD INTO ARTICLE ONE, SECTION ONE, I WOULD BE JUMPING UP AND CLAPPING AND THAT'S IT.
I LEAVE THE REST FOR DISCUSSION BY THE REST OF THE BOARD.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU SIR. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSIONS REGARDING REGARDING MR. TORRES CHANGES? YEAH, I DON'T THINK CHANGING IT TO CHAIR PERSON BYRD IS A BIG DEAL.
IF I'M EVER CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD, I WANT TO BE CALLED CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD.
CHAIRPERSON IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GETTING INTO POLITICAL CORRECTNESS STUFF AND THAT'S, I THINK, A WASTE. I CAN TELL YOU FROM OTHER COMMITTEES THAT I SERVE ON THIS WAS DISCUSSED ACTUALLY, AND THE DECISION WAS TO JUST CALL THE TITLE SIMPLY CHAIR WITH NO TYPE OF GENDER AT ALL.
THAT'S GENERALLY HOW I'VE CONSIDERED THE ROLE IS JUST TO BE CHAIR, NOT CHAIRMAN, CHAIRWOMAN, CHAIRPERSON, JUST CHAIR. SO I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.
I'D LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR LOOKING INTO THAT.
AS SOMEONE WHO'S LIKE DONE THE CONSTITUTIONAL REVISION COMMITTEE IN THE PAST FOR STUDENT GOVERNMENT, I KNOW THAT'S A LOT OF WORK TO GO THROUGH AND READ ALL OF THAT AND FIND ALL THE TINY LITTLE THINGS AS FAR AS THE SPACES GO.
I DON'T, I DON'T MIND EITHER WAY HAVING IT EITHER WAY.
CHAIRMAN, CHAIRPERSON CHAIR. I THINK IT'S JUST IMPORTANT TO BE CONSISTENT.
I AGREE WITH THE LAST COMMENT. I DON'T MIND EITHER WAY. I JUST WANT TO HAVE UNIFORMITY. OKAY.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE FOR THE SAKE OF CONTINUITY, WE WILL CHANGE THE BYLAWS TO HAVE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR RATHER THAN CHAIRMAN OR CHAIRPERSON THROUGHOUT THE DOCUMENT, WHEREVER IT'S LISTED.
THANK YOU. WELL, WE HAVE A MOTION. I DO HAVE A POINT OF CLARITY BEFORE I ASK FOR A SECOND.
WERE WE GOING TO INCLUDE MR. DORA'S REQUEST TO HAVE THE SUSTAINABILITY ADDED IN ON THE FIRST SUBSECTION AS PART OF THAT MOTION? YES. THANK YOU. SO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE TO IMPROVE CONTINUITY IN OUR BYLAWS.
WE ARE GOING TO INCLUDE THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD IN THE FIRST SUBSECTION THAT WAS NOMINATED BY MR. TEDDER. AND THEN THROUGHOUT THE DOCUMENT, CONTINUE FORWARD WITH CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR AS THE CONTINUITY THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE DOCUMENT.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. I'LL SECOND. ALL RIGHT.
HE DOES. OKAY, WE HAVE A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
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AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, MR. CHAIR. YES, SIR. JUST WANT TO CONFIRM. CITY STAFF.WE'VE MADE THIS MOTION TO MAKE THE AMENDMENT TO BYLAWS.
SO WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO UNDER ARTICLE SEVEN, SECTION TWO, GIVEN THAT THE.
GIVEN THAT THE EFFECT OF THE CHANGES NOW GO INTO FULL EFFECT AFTER THE MOTION AND THE APPROVAL.
AND THEN WE CAN SUBMIT THAT TO THE CLERK OF COURTS FOR RECORD TO UPDATE EVERYTHING.
AND THEN WE CAN GO AHEAD AND SEND YOU THE, THE EDITED OR THE EDIBLE PDF DOCUMENT.
EXCELLENT. DO I HAVE CONSENSUS ACROSS THE BOARD THAT MR. TUDOR COULD HANDLE SOMETHING LIKE THAT? YES, I WAS GOING TO NOMINATE HIM.
I BELIEVE WE HAVE CONSENSUS, SIR. IF YOU ARE WILLING TO TAKE THAT ON.
YES, SIR. WITH PLEASURE. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU.
WE WILL MOVE ON AT THIS TIME. OH, SORRY. DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER TWO? OKAY. SEEING NONE, WE WILL MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER THREE, THE REMEMBRANCE GARDEN AND THE FACT FINDING COMMITTEE.
MR. TURNER, DID YOU BRING THIS ONE UP ON THE AGENDA? I DID. I FELT LIKE WE I FELT LIKE I DROPPED THE BALL ON THIS, AND I DIDN'T DIDN'T LOOK INTO THIS.
I KNOW THAT WE'VE BEEN YOU'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR QUITE SOME TIME, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE OR AT LEAST I STEP UP TO ASSIST IF I CAN. SO THE PURPOSE OF ADDING IT ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING IS ONE TO.
I KNOW YOU SAID IT A FEW TIMES, BUT NOW I'M GOING TO ACTUALLY HAVE MY PEN AND PAPER HANDY TO UNDERSTAND THE CURRENT SITUATION FOR THIS PROJECT AND WHAT MY DESIRE IS TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW THIS ALONGSIDE OTHER THINGS WOULD BE ONE OF THE FEW THINGS THAT WE WOULD BE DISCUSSING UNDER THE QUARTERLY PRESENTATION TO GET IT APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL SO THAT EVERYTHING, AS WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, BEING METICULOUSLY PREPARED.
THAT WAY WE GET OUR PROJECTS APPROVED INSTEAD OF DENIED.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, TO GIVE YOU CONTEXT, BASICALLY I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE FIVE W IS.
SAY IT OUT LOUD TO VOLUNTEER TO BE A PART OF THIS FACT FINDING COMMITTEE.
I KNOW I'M ON ANOTHER ONE. AS WELL. BUT I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT.
YOU'VE SAID IT A NUMBER OF TIMES AND WE NEED TO STEP UP TO THE PLATE.
THE PLAN AT THE TIME WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A AREA.
IT WAS AT THE POINT IN TIME A NATIVE PLANT AND EDUCATION GARDEN.
IT WAS PUT ON HOLD. THAT PROJECT ACTUALLY STARTED SOLARIZATION WAS PUT DOWN BACK IN 2023.
THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PROPOSED AREA. AND THEN BUILDING E GOT APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL.
THEY NEEDED TO USE THE SPACE FOR POTENTIALLY HAVING FIBER OPTIC LINES RAN THROUGH THAT CONNECTING UP TO BUILDING E SO THERE WAS SOME INFRASTRUCTURE CONCERNS WITH THAT. SO THE SOLARIZATION WAS REMOVED, THE NATIVE PLANT, OUR DEMONSTRATION AND EDUCATION GARDEN WAS PUT ON HOLD.
UNTIL SUCH A TIME THAT BUILDING E WAS COMPLETED.
ONCE BUILDING E WAS COMPLETED MISS CONNOLLY, MISS SUSAN CONNOLLY HAD INTENDED AND EXPRESSED HER INTENTION TO REVIVE THAT PROGRAM, THAT NATIVE PLANT DEMONSTRATION EDUCATION GARDEN AT THAT TIME.
UNFORTUNATELY, AFTER MISS CONNELLY'S PASSING, THERE WAS A LOT OF GUMPTION TO GET SOMETHING DONE TO HONOR AND REMEMBER HER.
AS SUCH, WE HAD DISCUSSED POTENTIALLY DOING A SMALL GARDEN IN FRONT OF BUILDING E, WHICH SHE AND THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD HAD A LARGE AMOUNT OF INFLUENCE ON MAKING SURE THAT SUSTAINABLE FEATURES WERE THERE.
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THERE'S A LOT OF STORMWATER FEATURES AND UNDERWATER STUFF.OUR UNDERGROUND STUFF. YOU BASICALLY HAVE SIX INCHES, ROUGHLY OF USABLE SOIL BEFORE YOU START GETTING INTO WEED BARRIERS AND GUARDS AND THE ACTUAL INFRASTRUCTURE THERE. SO AT THAT POINT, WE DETERMINED THAT WE WERE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT SPACE THERE.
AND THAT'S WHEN THE IDEA CAME INTO PLAY. HEY, LET'S UTILIZE THE DESIGNS, THE FUNDING, THE PREVIOUS WORK THAT HAD BEEN PUT IN PLACE FOR THE NATIVE PLANT EDUCATION GARDEN AND TRANSFER THAT INTO THE REMEMBRANCE ASPECT OF IT.
YEAH, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND BROUGHT FORTH EVERYTHING TO IT.
THE CITY COUNCIL WAS VERY AMENABLE TO HAVING SUCH A PROJECT.
I DIDN'T PRESENT IT TO THEM IN A TERMS OF, HEY, APPROVE IT.
I PRETTY MUCH DID A TEN MINUTE PRESENTATION, KIND OF LIKE DOCTOR LAURA DID TONIGHT SAYING, THIS IS WHERE WE STAND. THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. THIS IS WHERE WE WHAT KIND OF FUNDING WE HAVE.
AND ESSENTIALLY CITY COUNCIL SAID THAT, OKAY, ONCE YOU HAVE THE REMAINING FUNDING, LET'S GO.
LET'S MOVE WITH IT. SO THAT WAS THE PLAN AT THE TIME.
SO THROUGH DISCUSSION WITH MISS JANE HIGGINS, WHO HAS BEEN WORKING TIRELESSLY IN THE BACKGROUND AND PUTTING UP WITH MY NONSENSE QUITE FREQUENTLY SHE'S BEEN NO LONGER ON THE BOARD.
WE CAN FREELY TALK WITH HER. SHE'S UP IN JACKSONVILLE, LIVING HER BEST LIFE, SPENDING SOME TIME WITH HER GRANDKID AND STILL CONTINUING TO BE A CHAMPION OF THIS PROJECT AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH IT ALL.
WE KIND OF DISCUSSED POTENTIALLY BREAKING IT OUT INTO PHASES SINCE WE DIDN'T HAVE THE FULL FUNDING.
AND WE DIDN'T RECEIVE THE FULL FUNDING THROUGH THE FLORIDA WILDFLOWER FOUNDATION.
HOW COULD WE APPROACH THIS PROJECT TO WHERE WE CAN GET IT GOING, GET IT MOVING AND WHATNOT? THAT'S WHEN I HAD DEVELOPED THE IDEA OF PHASING IT AND BRINGING IN THAT FIRST PHASE THAT I TRIED TO DISCUSS AT LAST MONTH'S MEETING.
WE HAD THE COMMENTS THAT WE NEEDED TO SPEAK WITH FACILITIES.
THAT DISCUSSION WITH FACILITIES IS WHAT HAS LED TO THE PHOTO THAT IS INCLUDED IN OUR PACKAGE.
FACILITIES DID NOT SEEM TO BE AWARE OF THE FULL SCOPE OF THE PROJECT.
THAT AS IT WAS PRESENTED IN 2023 I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE MISCOMMUNICATION CAME INTO PLAY BECAUSE THE SOLARIZATION HAD BEEN PUT DOWN FOR THE ENTIRE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT.
AND IN 2023. SO AT SOME POINT IN TIME SOMEWHERE, SOMEONE DID LOOK AT THE OVERALL SITE PLAN AND WHAT WE WERE INTENDING TO DO WITH THE GARDEN AND APPROVED THAT. AND NOW IT SEEMS THAT THAT TRIBAL KNOWLEDGE MIGHT HAVE BEEN LOST ALONG THE WAY.
THEY, THE PHASE ONE OF THE PROJECT ALSO INCLUDED A WATER FEATURE WHICH WHERE WE WOULD NEED ELECTRICITY AND WATER TO HAVE ONGOING MAINTENANCE FOR IT.
THAT ASPECT WAS DISCUSSED WITH FACILITIES. THERE WAS HESITANCY AS TO WHETHER OR NOT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO FIND WATER AND ELECTRICITY TO BE TAPPED INTO. AT LEAST EASILY. THAT WAS LATER DISCUSSED THAT WE AS A SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD, IF WE WERE TO GO WITH THIS PHASE PLAN AND EVEN CONTINUE ON EXPANDING THE GARDEN THROUGHOUT THE TIME WE MAY BE BETTER SERVED REMOVING THE WATER FEATURE ASPECT OF IT AND FINDING SOME OTHER WAY OF INCLUDING A CENTRALIZED MEMORIAL SPACE.
I'VE ALSO, AFTER THAT MEETING WITH FACILITIES, HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.
THEY ARE OF THE IMPRESSION THAT THE CITY COUNCIL WAS IN FAVOR OF THE LARGER GARDEN OVERALL.
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I THINK THAT THERE IS TRACTION TO BE HAD IN THAT SPACE.TO WHERE IF WE, AS WE CONTINUE TO GAIN FUNDING AND WHATNOT, WE COULD LOOK AT EXPANDING THE GARDEN.
SO A VERY LONG WINDED BREAKDOWN, BUT HOPEFULLY THAT GAVE YOU WHAT YOU WERE LOOKING FOR.
HOW MUCH, MR. CHAIR? HOW MUCH MONEY DO WE NEED THAT'S LEFT? IT DEPENDS. SO OUR BUDGET IS GOING TO CHANGE AS WE BREAK OUT THE PHASED PLAN.
I IMAGINE THAT A LOT OF THE EXPENSES ARE GOING TO INCREASE AS WE LOOK AT A PHASED PLAN.
IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SMALLER GARDEN AS OF TODAY WE HAVE ALL THE FUNDING WE NEED FOR PHASE ONE.
SO WHAT I CONSIDER IS THE VIABLE PATH FORWARD FOR BOTH US AND THE CITY TO TRANSFORM WORDS AND TALK AND ACTION IS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT SMALLER PHASE PLAN.
AND THEN WE CAN TAKE THE BITE SIZE PIECES AS WE FIND FUNDING.
I MAY SAY THAT WE HAVE NOT BEEN DENIED BY LOWE'S ANY FUNDING THROUGH THAT GRANT PROGRAM.
WE ALSO HAVE NOT BEEN APPROVED FOR ANY GRANT FUNDING.
SO FOR ALL WE KNOW, I MAY GET AN EMAIL TOMORROW SAYING, CONGRATULATIONS, YOU'VE GOT $10,000 AND LOWE'S IS GOING TO FUND WHATEVER YOU WANT UNTIL YOUR HEART'S DESIRE. I JUST DON'T WANT TO BANK ON THAT.
WE HAVE $2,500 THROUGH FPL GRANT FUNDING. WE HAVE $2,000 THROUGH THE CONRADINA CHAPTER.
AND I BELIEVE WE'VE ALSO HAD SOME INDIVIDUAL DONATIONS LIKE MR. BATTEN, DONATED SOME MONEY AT A PRIOR BOARD MEETING TO GO TOWARDS THE GARDEN, AND WE HAVE SOME IN-KIND DONATIONS THAT ARE COMING IN.
WE HAVE TWO GARDEN BENCHES THAT HAVE BEEN PROMISED TO THE PROJECT, AS WELL AS SOME OF THE FUNDING THAT WAS GOING TO GO TO THE ROSE GARDEN, WHICH HAS BEEN PROMISED TOWARDS THE PROJECT AS WELL.
AND REMOVING THAT WATER FEATURE OUT OF THERE, I THINK SATISFIES SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WERE IN PLACE FROM HAVING MEETINGS WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS. OKAY. TWO LAST QUESTIONS. ONE, WHAT DO YOU NEED ASSISTANCE WITH AND TO IMPLEMENT THIS? AND TWO, HAS THIS TAKEN IN CONSIDERATION WHETHER YOU TAKE OUT THE WATER FEATURE OR NOT? HAS IT TAKEN CONSIDERATION IN THE COMMENTS MADE BY CITY STAFF ON THE 24TH OF JUNE OR OUR LAST MEETING? THERE ARE SEVERAL COMMENTS APPROVED BY FACILITIES DEPARTMENT MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT, GARDEN AND GARDEN MAINTENANCE PLAN, THINGS LIKE THAT. PERMANENT MAY BE REQUIRED MEASUREMENT TO MEET ADA REQUIREMENTS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THOSE TWO REQUIREMENTS, HAVE WE MET THOSE? HAVE WE EXAMINED THE REQUIREMENT TO CITY STAFF HAD MENTIONED AND I THINK THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR.
AND WHAT DO YOU NEED TO MOVE THIS FORWARD? SO MISS HIGGINS HAS GONE FORTH AND AFTER THE LAST MEETING BECAUSE SHE WAS WATCHING SO SHE HEARD ALL THE COMMENTS AND EVERYTHING, SHE HAS GONE FORWARD AND MADE A DRAFT SAMPLE OF A MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT WITH US FOR THE PROJECT AND FOR THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD TO BRING FORTH TO OUR PARTNERS.
AGAIN, I'VE TRIED TO EXPRESS THIS MULTIPLE TIMES.
I KNOW THE CITY WANTS THOSE COMMITMENTS IN PLACE.
SO I MISS BARBER IS A REPRESENTATIVE OF ONE OF THE THE COMMUNITY PARTNERS.
I HAVE CONTACTS, CONSTANT CONTACTS WITH CONRADINA CHAPTER.
I HAVE CONSTANT CONTACTS WITH THE BREVARD MASTER GARDENERS PROGRAM.
SO I BELIEVE I CAN GET THOSE RELATIVELY QUICKLY.
AS A MATTER OF WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
RIGHT NOW, KIND OF EVERYBODY'S WAITING TO FIND OUT IF THE PROJECT IS STILL ALIVE OR NOT.
TO BEGIN WITH. AND SO ONCE WE FIGURE OUT WHAT THIS NEXT VERSION, THIS NEXT PHASE OF THE PLAN IS GOING TO BE, I THINK THAT'S WHEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. AS FOR THE, THE PERMITS, I THINK THE PERMITS WERE ONLY GOING TO BE NEEDED IF WE WERE GOING TO BE RUNNING WATER AND ELECTRICITY. IF WE REMOVED THAT WATER FEATURE OUT OF THERE, WE'RE NO LONGER CONCERNED ABOUT THE PERMITTING ASPECT ON THERE.
AND THERE WAS ANOTHER PART OF YOUR QUESTION THAT YOU YOU'VE ANSWERED IT.
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SUBMIT IN THE SWIFTEST MANNER POSSIBLE TO THE BOARD THE PROPOSAL SO THAT THAT CAN THEN BE SUBMITTED TO CITY COUNCIL IF THE BOARD SO DESIRES.THANK YOU. I BELIEVE WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE TO FORM A FACT FINDING COMMITTEE FOR THE PLANT GARDEN TO INCLUDE MYSELF AND MR. TUDOR. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? THANK YOU.
WE HAVE A SECOND. DO WE WANT TO OPEN IT UP TO ANY DISCUSSION BEFORE THE VOTE? YES. YES, MA'AM. I MENTIONED THE LAST TIME. YOU DON'T NEED TO HOOK UP TO ELECTRICITY.
THERE'S SUCH THING AS PASSIVE WATER FLOW AND PASSIVE ELECTRICITY.
THERE'S AN EARTH BATTERY THAT IS EXTREMELY INEXPENSIVE AND IT LASTS FOREVER.
IT'S NOT WEATHER DEPENDENT. IT'S NOT SUNSHINE OR WIND DEPENDENT.
I MY PRESENTATION GOT CANCELED, SO I'LL BE DOING THAT NEXT MONTH.
AND I WILL BRING IN SKETCHES OF HOW THAT WORKS.
BUT IT'S UNDER 50 BUCKS I THINK, TO MAKE THE BATTERY.
AND AS FAR AS THE WATER, I MEAN, YOU HAVE A SWALE, YOU MAY BE ABLE TO DRAW FROM AS FAR AS MAINTAINING THE WATER, BUT I STILL DON'T SEE NEEDING PERMITS FOR THOSE THINGS BECAUSE THERE ARE PASSIVE WAYS TO DO IT.
YEAH. I THINK ON THAT FRONT THE CONCERN THAT I HAVE WITH BRINGING IN ALTERNATIVE METHODS IS WE WERE GOING TO, AND IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE WATER FEATURE, STILL GOING TO RELY HEAVILY ON FLORIDA CUSTOM AQUATICS TO DONATE THEIR TIME, LABOR AND ENERGY. IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT IF THE COMMITTEE GETS FORMED, I SUPPOSE WE WOULD WANT TO CONTACT FLORIDA CUSTOM AQUATICS TO SEE IF THEY HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE WITH THAT. BECAUSE IT MAY BE A SITUATION WHERE THEY DO NOT KNOW HOW TO WORK THAT INTO THEIR DESIGN.
NO, WE'D BE PROVIDING THE ELECTRICITY. IT'S ATTACHING IT TO A BATTERY, BASICALLY.
OKAY, EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION ON THE TABLE? SEEING NONE, WE WILL CALL IT TO A VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SIGNIFY SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
AYE AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
WE WILL MOVE ON AT THIS TIME TO NEW BUSINESS.
ITEM NUMBER FOUR. RESOLUTION ATTENDANCE OF SELECT STAFF MEMBERS AT PBSAB MR..
I BELIEVE YOU BROUGHT THAT ONE TO THE TABLE AS WELL. YES, I'LL KEEP IT SHORT.
SO WE AT A PAST MEETING HAD WE DID A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE.
UNFORTUNATELY, THE PROCESS THAT WE SUBMITTED WAS INCORRECT.
AND THEREFORE THAT MOTION THAT WAS APPROVED WAS FOR FOR NOT.
AND THAT WAS REGARDS TO THE POSITION PAPER THAT I ASKED CITY, THE CITY STAFF TO SEND TO YOU ALL, I CAN INFER THAT YOU ALL RECEIVED. I WANTED TO DISCUSS BRIEFLY ABOUT THAT AND ENSURING THAT OUR EFFORTS HERE ARE ARE DONE PROPERLY AND IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE ORDINANCE AND THE ORDINANCE, THE CHARTER AND OTHER RELEVANT STATUTES THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER WE'RE VOTING ON, WE ARE MOVING FORWARD BECAUSE WE IF WE'VE VOTED ON SOMETHING, THERE'S BEEN SOME SORT OF DELIBERATION PROCESS.
AND IT'S NOT IT'S NOT VERY PLEASANT TO TO WORK IN IT, FOR IT TO BE IN VAIN, OF COURSE.
SO. BUT WHAT WE HAVE GAINED FROM THAT IS THAT WE HAVE A LESSON LEARNED, AT LEAST I HAVE.
AND I KNOW HOW TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. IN THE FUTURE.
SO I'LL STOP TALKING NOW. I'M SURE YOU ALL HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW MY POSITION PERHAPS.
AND IF NOT, I CAN BRIEFLY GIVE A 32ND OVERVIEW.
OKAY. I HAVE ONE COMMENT ABOUT IT. WE CAN INVITE PEOPLE, BUT WE ALWAYS HAVE CITY STAFF HERE.
WE HAVE ERIC AND DEREK AND THERE'S USUALLY SOMEONE FROM PUBLIC WORKS HERE.
BUT IF THERE'S A PARTICULAR DEPARTMENT THAT MIGHT BENEFIT FROM IT, WE CAN INVITE THEM.
WE CAN'T MANDATE THAT THE CITY HAVE MORE PEOPLE HERE, BECAUSE THAT'S A PAYROLL ISSUE, I BELIEVE, OR, YOU KNOW, IS IT IS IT OVER TIME, THERE HAS BEEN PAST DISCUSSION BY COUNCIL TO THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD ABOUT THE THE USE OF STAFF TIME. SO YEAH, IT MAY COME UP AS A POSSIBLE ISSUE.
YEAH. BUT INVITING THEM, WHOEVER IS GOING TO DO A PRESENTATION ON THE TOPICS THAT YOU OUTLINED,
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MARVIN. YOU KNOW, IF THEY WOULD KNOW BEST WHO IT MIGHT APPLY TO, AND CERTAINLY SENDING OUT INVITATIONS IS SOMETHING OR TO DRAW TO THEIR ATTENTION THAT THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, WATCH AT A LATER TIME OR DURING IT, WHATEVER. BUT I THINK WE HAVE SUFFICIENT REPRESENTATION AND KNOWLEDGEABLE PEOPLE HERE ALREADY.SO, YOU KNOW, IT DEPENDS ON THE TOPIC. I THINK I'D LIKE TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF SUPPORT FOR YOUR IDEA.
I READING YOUR POSITION PAPER I DO UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT BEHIND IT AND I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE IT.
ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE GOING TO BE MOVING FORWARD WITH MONTHLY THEMES WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO DISCUSS THINGS THAT WE APPROVED LAST TIME HAVING AN EXPERT IN THOSE TOPICS THAT WE COULD CALL UP TO THE PODIUM AND DISCUSS OFF THE TOP OF THEIR HEAD AS OPPOSED TO WAITING UNTIL THE NEXT BOARD MEETING. I 100% AGREE THAT THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR US ACCOMPLISHING OUR GOAL AND BEING MORE EFFICIENT.
THE CONCERN THAT I HAVE IS KIND OF ECHOES AND MISSTEPS, CONCERNS.
WE HAVE BEEN ASKED PREVIOUSLY TO FIND WAYS TO REDUCE STAFF HOURS.
SO I THINK THE BEST APPROACH TO DO IT WOULD BE TO POTENTIALLY HAVE STAFF THAT DOES WORK WITH US.
THAT WAY IT IS MORE ON VOLUNTEER TIME THAN IT IS ON CITY PAYROLL TIME.
BECAUSE I THINK IF WE HAVE A MANDATE ON THERE, IT WOULD COME DOWN TO THE CITY IS NOW PAYING FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS TO BE HERE AS OPPOSED TO IT BEING A VOLUNTEER SESSION. AND I THINK IN THAT SITUATION, WE WOULD HAVE PUSHBACK AGAINST THE RESOURCES USED BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE ANY OTHER BOARD HAS ACCESS TO BEING ABLE TO MANDATE PEOPLE HERE.
I UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE DIFFERENT. AND WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH, AND WE NEED TECHNICAL EXPERTISE THAT WE AS A BOARD JUST PERSONALLY DO NOT HAVE IN SOME CASES. BUT I THINK APPROACHING IT FROM A VOLUNTEER SESSION TO WHERE WE HAVE A CONTACT LIST OF SAY, OKAY, WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING FIRE THIS MONTH.
I THINK IF WE APPROACH IT THAT WAY, IT KIND OF BRINGS A HAPPY MEDIUM BETWEEN EVERYTHING.
I I HAVE A COMMENT THAT'S THAT MY EXPERIENCE WITH THE CITY AS AN INDIVIDUAL IS WHEN I HAVE QUESTIONS, THERE'S USUALLY SOMEONE WILLING TO TALK TO ME.
AND I LIKE THAT APPROACH BETTER AS, AS A BOARD, IF WE DON'T DISCUSS IT, WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO GET TOGETHER AND DISCUSS THINGS OUTSIDE OF THE BECAUSE OF THE SUNSHINE LAWS. BUT AS INDIVIDUALS, EVEN IF IT'S BOARD MATTER OR ISSUE, WE CAN TALK TO CITY STAFF ABOUT IT AND HAVE THEM ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS WE HAVE ON THEIR TIME AND THEIR DURING THEIR REGULAR OFFICE HOURS, AT THEIR CONVENIENCE, EVEN TO EMAIL THEM. I'VE ALWAYS HAD GOOD RESPONSES FROM PEOPLE WHEN I'VE SENT AN EMAIL, THEIR EMAIL ADDRESSES ARE ON THE CITY WEBSITE.
SO I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT ROUTE RATHER THAN TRYING TO.
THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? I WOULD LIKE TO ECHO A SUPPORT THAT IT WOULD BE FANTASTIC TO HAVE THE EXPERTS IN THE ROOM, BUT I DO THINK THAT WE, RATHER THAN MANDATING THEM TO COME TO ALL MEETINGS, THAT WE SHOULD REALLY HONE IN ON WHAT SPECIFIC MEETINGS THOSE THOSE STAFF MEMBERS SHOULD BE AT AS WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK, IS THERE A SPECIFIC DEPARTMENT THAT MR. TEDDER HAD IN MIND THAT WE, HE WOULD WANT TO SEE HERE AT EVERY MEETING.
OR IS THIS JUST SORT OF A BLANKET STATEMENT THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE STAFF EXPERTS IN THE ROOM? SO THE INTENT, AS I DESCRIBED IN THE POSITION PAPER, IS NOT MANDATING.
STAFF ASKS YOU AT ALL TO COME TO ALL OF OUR MEETINGS, RATHER JUST TO HAVE SELECT MEMBERS.
BUT I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT WITH REGARDS TO HAVING A POINT OF CONTACT RIGHT NOW.
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HAVE IN THE MS4 PERMIT, AMONGST OTHER THINGS.BUT ALSO HAVING STAFF LIKE THAT, THEY CAN ALSO CONNECT US WITH OTHER ENTITIES OR DEPARTMENTS, SUCH AS UTILITIES OR WHATNOT, BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE DIRECT CONNECT.
SO. RIGHT. THEY'RE A PART OF THE PALM BAY TEAM.
IT'S NOT INTENDED TO BE BLANKET. NO, NOT AT ALL.
FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAD WE APPROVED FOR THE MONTH OF JULY, I BELIEVE IT WAS HEAT OR WATER CONSERVATION, WATER QUALITY AND WASTEWATER INFRASTRUCTURE IN AUGUST, HEAT IMPACTS SOLAR ENERGY AND WILDFIRE PREPAREDNESS.
YES, WE HAVE THE ORDINANCE ORDINANCES AND WHATNOT, BUT WE WOULD REACH OUT TO THAT PERSON.
UNTIL SUCH TIME, THE BOARD BELIEVES THAT IT SHOULD BE REOPENED AND MODIFIED.
OKAY. OKAY, EXCELLENT. SO WITH THE MOTION WITHDRAWN OR WITH THE DISCUSSION COMPLETED, WE WILL MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER FIVE, THE RAIN BARREL PROGRAM.
THAT'S THE PROBLEM WE HAVE. WE'RE HAVING THESE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS BUT NEVER GETS DISCUSSED. IT GETS, YOU KNOW, LIKE, OH, IT GETS LOST IN THE ETHER. WE NEED TO HAVE A TRACKER OF SOME SORT OF WHAT WE'RE DOING.
I THINK IT'S A GOOD THING THAT WE DID BRING IT BACK ON TO THE THE DISCUSSION.
THAT WAY SHE CAN BRING WHAT SHE HAS WORKED ON POTENTIALLY TO THE DISCUSSION.
THANK YOU. I HAVEN'T MADE TOO MUCH PROGRESS ON THIS AS FAR AS REACHING OUT.
I DID GET THE CONTACT INFORMATION, SO THANK YOU FOR SENDING THAT OVER.
I GUESS MY QUESTION WOULD BE AT THE MAY 27TH MEETING, WE DID HAVE A MOTION WHERE WE, WE SAID WE WERE GOING TO DISCUSS THE STRUCTURED RAIN BARREL PROGRAM WORKSHOPS, EDUCATION MATERIALS AND ADDING IT TO THE LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT POTENTIALLY.
AND WE HAD A 60 DAY PROPOSED IMPLEMENTATION ON THAT.
MY UNDERSTANDING WAS STAFF WAS GOING TO BE LOOKING INTO THAT BASED ON THAT MOTION.
SO I'M JUST TRYING TO GET CLARITY, I GUESS, ON WHERE, WHERE WE WANT TO PUT OUR ENERGY WITH THIS.
ARE WE, ARE WE GOING TO BE HAVING, I GUESS I'LL JUST ASK FOR STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION ON HOW TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. GIVEN AS WE DID HAVE THE DISCUSSION A FEW MONTHS AGO.
BUT BEFORE WE TALK TO STAFF, I THINK YOU SAID IT IN THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE MOTION, WE MOVE TO DISCUSS IT. SO WE'RE STILL DISCUSSING IT. SO THE RAINBOW PROGRAM, YOU HAD DISCUSSED A BIT ABOUT IT, BUT I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT COST.
WE DISCUSSED SOME ORGANIZATION, I DON'T RECALL THE NAME RIGHT NOW THAT COULD ASSIST PARTIALLY WITH THAT, BUT THE COST IT WOULD HAVE ON ON PALM BAY RESIDENTS, AMONGST OTHER THINGS.
HE'S THE OUTREACH. HE'S BASICALLY MY COUNTERPART FROM BREVARD WHO DOES THE WORKSHOPS FOR THAT.
INDIAN ATLANTIC, SAME THING. COCOA HAS $100 REBATE FOR UP TO TWO RAIN BARRELS.
SO IT'S $50 PER EACH BARREL. WITH THAT, IT'S FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE.
IT'S AN ANNUAL PROGRAM. AND THEN YOU HAVE TO BE A YOU HAVE TO BE A CUSTOMER OF COCOA UTILITIES.
AND THAT $100 IS CREDITED TOWARDS THE WATER BILL.
THEN WE KNOW ABOUT BREVARD. MERRITT ISLAND USES BREVARD AS THEIR RAIN BARREL.
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PROGRAM'S NOT REALLY SO MUCH A PROGRAM, JUST SO MUCH AS, HEY, IF YOU WANT TO PUT A A RAIN BARREL IN YOUR PROPERTY OR ON YOUR PROPERTY, HERE'S A LITTLE NICE $50 MAIL IN REBATE INCENTIVE.BREVARD GIVES YOU A FREE T SHIRT, SO THAT'S COOL.
THERE'S NO PLANS FOR ONE, IF IT IS SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE TO PURSUE AT THIS TIME, YOU CAN START DESIGNING A PROGRAM THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO BRING TO THE CITY'S ATTENTION COUNCIL'S ATTENTION AND SEE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE PROPOSED, COULD BE APPROVED AT THIS TIME.
IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT PROJECTS YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AT THIS TIME.
SO WE CAN PROVIDE YOU WITH CERTAIN INFORMATION, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY PAST HISTORY OF HAVING A RAIN BARREL PROGRAM, SO I CAN'T REALLY SAY IT'D BE BEST TO MOVE IN THIS DIRECTION.
WE DO ENCOURAGE IT. HERE'S A LITTLE INCENTIVE, YOU KNOW, HOWEVER SMALL.
AS FAR AS EDUCATION AND WORKSHOPS, WE PARTNER WITH CARLOS.
HE LOVES THAT AND LOVES HAVING OTHER PEOPLE ATTEND OR BE ON BOARD.
HE'LL, HE MIGHT EVEN HELP. SO. YEAH, WE DID HAVE A FREE GIVEAWAY ON EARTH DAY SEVERAL YEARS AGO. MR. THEY PROVIDE THEM, I THINK THEY CHARGE $55 FOR EACH ONE.
AND I KNOW THEY DO THE WORKSHOPS AS WELL. SO SIDE BY SIDE YOU'VE GOT BREVARD COUNTY DOING WORKSHOPS.
MRC DOES WORKSHOPS AT THEIR AT THE, I BELIEVE LAGOON HOUSE.
YEAH, I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE FOR 2026, MRC HAS NOT DONE ANY RAIN BARREL PROGRAMS AT LEAST.
I DON'T THINK I'VE SEEN ANYTHING POP UP ON THEIR WEBSITE.
MY SUGGESTION SINCE WE HAVE THAT CONTACT WITH BREVARD RESOURCE MANAGEMENT THEY, I LOOKED AT THEIR WHATEVER MEETUP PAGE THEY HAVE AN EVENT IN TITUSVILLE, AND THEY HAVE AN EVENT IN MELBOURNE COMING UP LATER THIS YEAR TO WHERE THEY ARE DOING RAIN BARREL GIVEAWAYS.
I THINK IF WE ARE ABLE TO WIN, THE CITY IS HOSTING AN EVENT OR SOMETHING.
SO IF WE CAN KIND OF FIND A, FIND A ROUTE TO GET BREVARD RESOURCE MANAGEMENT TO SNEAK DOWN HERE AND DO A RAIN BARREL PROGRAM WITH THE CITY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WHAT THEIR REQUIREMENTS ARE.
I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD ROUTE TO EXPLORE.
I DO NEED TO POINT SOMETHING OUT. THE THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD USED TO DO THE SUSTAINABILITY FAIR.
THIS IS THE ONLY REASON THAT I HAVE THIS INFORMATION.
MRC ACTUALLY WORKED WITH JOSIE FROM BREVARD COUNTY ON THAT RAIN BARREL PROGRAM.
THERE'S AN EDUCATIONAL COMPONENT TO IT. SO WHEN THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD HAD THE SUSTAINABILITY FAIR, YOU WOULD HAVE TO PRE SIGN UP THROUGH A LINK THAT BREVARD COUNTY HAD.
YOU WOULD SHOW UP AT THE SUSTAINABILITY FAIR.
AND THEY WOULD GIVE 30 RAIN BARRELS AWAY AT THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD EVENT.
SO THAT'S HOW MRC AND BREVARD COUNTY WORK TOGETHER.
SO I BELIEVE HE WOULD DO THE SAME FOR YOU GUYS TOO.
A LOT OF THE RAIN BARRELS THAT THEY ARE THAT THEY GET THAT THEY PURCHASE AND ALL THAT IT'S DONE THROUGH A GRANT, BUT THE GRANT IS ONLY GOOD FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES.
IT'S NOT THE MONEY CAN'T BE USED TO ACTUALLY PURCHASE THE MATERIALS.
SO EXCELLENT AND I LOVE THE IDEA OF A SUSTAINABILITY FAIR.
SO IF WE CAN TIE EVERYTHING TOGETHER AND MAKE A NICE LITTLE BOW OUT OF IT AND DO A RAIN BARREL PROGRAM AT A SUSTAINABILITY FAIR, I AM MORE THAN HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES FOR THE BOARD TO HOST AN EVENT LIKE THAT IN PALM BAY.
I'M NOT SURE WE HAVE THE EXPERTISE AS TO HOW TO GO ABOUT DOING THAT, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE COULD DEFINITELY EXPLORE.
EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER FIVE?
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SEEING NONE, WE WILL MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER SIX, WHICH I BELIEVE MIGHT BE A TYPO AND BE THE THEME FOR JULY, WHICH WAS HEAT IMPACT, SOLAR ENERGY AND WILDFIRE PREPAREDNESS.WE HAVE HURRICANE PREPAREDNESS AND FLOOD RISK, WHICH WAS JUNE'S TOPIC.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MOVE THAT BECAUSE IT WASN'T ON THE AGENDA.
SO I DID NOT BRING THE MATERIALS THAT I HAVE.
I CAN DO IT NEXT TIME. I GUESS THE ONLY THING LEFT TO DISCUSS, PERHAPS, MR. CHAIR, MAYBE STORMWATER ISSUES IN LIGHT OF THE HURRICANE ISSUES THAT MAYBE COULD BE DISCUSSED BY CITY STAFF IF THERE'S ANYTHING TO DISCUSS. I DON'T KNOW, JUST SUGGEST. IF NOT, MOVE ON. YOUR CALL, MR. CHAIR. YES. IF CITY STAFF HAS ANYTHING THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO BRING FORWARD THAT THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD COULD CONSIDER FOR STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AND FLOOD RISK. DURING FOR HURRICANE PREPAREDNESS.
COULD YOU NARROW DOWN THE, THE, THE IDEA BEHIND THAT? WHAT, WHAT EXACTLY WOULD YOU LIKE TO TACKLE? JUST ANY, ANY IDEAS THAT YOU THINK THE BOARD COULD CONSIDER AND DEBATE TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S IDEAS TO IMPROVE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT DURING A HURRICANE SITUATION? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT FOR HOMEOWNERS OR FOR THE CITY IN GENERAL? THIS IS A LITTLE BIT TOWARDS MARVINS. MR. DAWES EARLIER STATEMENT, BUT THE, THE, THE CONFUSION FROM US IS WE DEAL WITH HURRICANE PREPAREDNESS AND THE FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT AND FLOOD RISK IS ANOTHER DEPARTMENT.
SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT THAT ONE, WE WOULD HAVE TO ASK SOMEBODY FROM THAT DEPARTMENT TO COME HERE. YEAH. SO YOU GUYS COULD DISCUSS WHATEVER YOU WOULD LIKE. OKAY, WELL, SINCE WE HAVE YOU GUYS HERE AND YOU DO HURRICANE PREPAREDNESS, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE COULD CONSIDER IN THAT ASPECT? NOT THAT I KNOW OF. I, I WASN'T SURE WHY IT WAS ON THE AGENDA TO EVEN BE ABLE TO PREPARE FOR ANYTHING.
SO I, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING AT THIS MOMENT. OKAY.
MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY. YES, SIR. IS IT POSSIBLE, IN LIGHT OF OUR APPROVED MEETING THEMES, THAT WE CAN GO AHEAD AND JUST DISCUSS WITH CITY STAFF WHAT SPEAKERS YOU NEED FOR THE UPCOMING MEETINGS? SO IT'S ON THE RECORD AND THEY'RE AWARE AND AND ALSO INCLUDING THE UPCOMING PRESENTATION BY MISS CEP, IF POSSIBLE, SINCE WE HAVE AVAILABLE AT THE MOMENT.
YEAH, WE CAN DISCUSS THAT. SO FOR AUGUST'S MEETING, WE WOULD BE TALKING ABOUT WATER CONSERVATION, WATER QUALITY AND WASTEWATER INFRASTRUCTURE, I BELIEVE IS THE, THE TOPIC FOR THE NEXT MEETING.
YES, I THINK THAT'S CORRECT. YES, SIR. OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANYONE? DO WE KNOW WHAT DEPARTMENTS WE MIGHT WANT TO INVITE WITH THAT, AND WHAT CONTEXT WE WOULD WANT TO REACH OUT TO TO INVITE THEM? THE ONLY OTHER THE ONLY OTHER DEPARTMENT I CAN THINK OF MIGHT HAVE A HAND IN IT IS UTILITIES TO, TO A VERY LITTLE EXTENT. WATER QUALITY IS IS MORE OR LESS PUBLIC WORKS.
STORMWATER. YEAH. STORMWATER. STORMWATER. YEAH.
SO LIKE I SAID, UTILITIES AS FAR AS THE PIPES THAT THEY PUT IN THE GROUND FOR, FOR THE WATER THAT GOES THROUGH THE CITY, THEY HAVE A SMALL HAND IN THAT THEY COULD MAYBE ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS. IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT OR HOW IN DEPTH THE TOPIC IS AS FAR AS WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO LEARN.
AND PFAS LEVELS WOULD BE DEFINITELY UTILITY UTILITIES.
YES. SO IF THAT'S ON THE TABLE FOR DISCUSSION, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET UTILITIES ON BOARD.
WE DID THIS LAST MONTH. YES. YES. PRESENTATION ON WATER QUALITY TO THE AUGUST AGENDA.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A SECOND.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE.
AND YOU CAN HAVE ALL YOUR PRESENTATION STUFF READY TO GO.
IT WILL BE THERE. YES. YES, IT WILL HAVE A LOT.
I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ON HURRICANE PREPAREDNESS THOUGH.
A LOT OF IT'S DONE BY THE COUNTY. BUT THE CITIZENS DON'T SEEM TO KNOW WHAT'S WHAT RESOURCES ARE AVAILABLE. I MEAN WE, WE DO DISTRIBUTE SANDBAGS.
THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE BRINGS IT DOWN TO THE COLLEGE USUALLY OR IN THE PAST.
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A TRUCK WENT BY EACH HOUSE AND IF YOU WERE HOME, THEY ASKED HOW MANY BAGS YOU NEEDED OR WHATEVER.AND THEY DID THAT. I DON'T SEE THAT HAPPENING AGAIN, BUT MAYBE IF WE COULD PUT SOME SORT OF AN INFORMATION THING, EITHER ON A WEBSITE OR DISTRIBUTE SOMEHOW TO, TO NEIGHBORHOODS AND LET THEM KNOW WHAT TO DO WHEN THERE IS A HURRICANE OR FLOOD RISK, YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF THINGS THEY NEED TO PREPARE FOR.
WE HAVE A LOT OF NEW PEOPLE IN THE CITY, AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE VALUABLE INFORMATION.
SO MAYBE AS A BOARD, WE CAN PUT TOGETHER SOME SUGGESTIONS WITH THE HELP OF PUBLIC WORKS ONCE WE HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION TOGETHER. BUT JUST LAY IT OUT, YOU KNOW, ON A ONE SHEET, SIMPLE THING.
IF THERE'S AN EMERGENCY, THIS IS WHAT YOU DO.
I KNOW WE HAVE ONE OR WE DID. THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT IS RUN THROUGH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
THROUGH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT? OKAY. THEY JUST HIRED A NEW EMERGENCY MANAGER LAST MONDAY.
WE'VE MET WITH HER A COUPLE OF TIMES THIS WEEK ALREADY, SO.
AND, YOU KNOW, PERSONALLY, I THINK WHEN PEOPLE MOVE HERE AT CLOSING OR, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY RENT SOMEPLACE, THEY SHOULD BE GIVEN THIS INFORMATION BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO SEE PEOPLE SITTING ON THEIR ROOFS, ROOFTOPS IF SOMETHING HAPPENS, ALTHOUGH I DON'T IMAGINE WE'RE WE'RE MORE IN A DROUGHT SITUATION, BUT YOU NEVER KNOW. SO THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD SAY WITH THIS HURRICANE PREPAREDNESS AND FLOOD, FLOOD RISK. OUR RESPONSIBILITY SHOULD MOSTLY BE TRYING TO HELP GET THE WORD OUT WHAT THE RESOURCES ARE.
WE USED TO HAVE TAX FREE HOLIDAYS FOR HURRICANE PREPARATION.
THE STATE LEGISLATURE HAS ACTUALLY GONE FORWARD AND MADE THOSE PERMANENT.
SO THERE ARE CERTAIN ITEMS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA THAT ARE CONSISTENTLY TAX FREE.
THAT WAY YOU CAN DO YOUR HURRICANE PREPARATIONS LONG IN ADVANCE BEFORE HURRICANE SEASON ARRIVES.
THE CITY OF PALM BAY MIMICS THE EXACT SAME PROGRAM THAT BREVARD COUNTY DOES.
THE CITY'S PIO STARTS POSTING INFORMATION ON WHERE THE SANDBAGS ARE BEING HANDED OUT.
THIS YEAR THE CITY HAS IT HAS BOUGHT LAST YEAR THE CITY BOUGHT ITS OWN SANDBAG MACHINE.
SO WE WILL BE SETTING UP OUR OWN SITE THAT MIMICS THE EXACT SAME THING THAT BREVARD COUNTY DOES.
THAT'S THE SAME THING. THAT'S THE SAME TIME THAT OUR SANDBAG PROCESS WILL START.
IT'S THE SAME THING. AND WOULD THEY BE LOCATED AT THE SAME SITE OR TWO SEPARATE SITES? NO SIR. WE WANT TO DO TWO SEPARATE SIDES OF THE CITY THAT WAY.
WE WE WE TRY TO MITIGATE THE TRAFFIC THAT'S IN THE CURRENT SITE THAT BREVARD COUNTY USES.
SO WE'RE WE'RE DOING IT AT A DIFFERENT SITE, WHICH WILL ALSO BE POSTED OUT BEFORE THE HURRICANE AND PUSHED OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND STUFF TOO. EXCELLENT. MR. CHAIR, SINCE WE ARE IN HURRICANE SEASON, WOULD WE LIKE OR WOULD THE BOARD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION ON WHETHER OR NOT TO INVITE THE NEW EMERGENCY OFFICER FROM FIRE, MAYBE FOR THE AUGUST MEETING TO COME IN AND TALK ABOUT HURRICANE PREPAREDNESS? I THINK THAT WOULD BE PRUDENT IF WE COULD GET HIM IN HERE. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? YES. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO INVITE THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.
IS IT A DIRECTOR? IT'S AN EMERGENCY MANAGER. HER NAME IS MORGAN COMBS.
OKAY. INVITE THE EMERGENCY MANAGER TO ADVISE US ON, ON WHAT THE PLANS ARE AND WHAT TO FIND OUT WHAT WE CAN DO TO ASSIST IN DISSEMINATING THAT INFORMATION.
EXCELLENT. I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. BEAUTIFUL.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU. DO WE NEED TO MAKE A SECOND MOTION, MR. CHAIR, TO HAVE INDIVIDUALS COME OUT FOR THE WATER AS WELL?
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I BELIEVE WE PROBABLY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT MOTION.YES. I MOVED TO HAVE A POINT OF CONTACT FROM UTILITIES TO DISCUSS WATER, PFAS TESTING AND WATER ITSELF AND WATER QUALITY IN PALM BAY, FLORIDA, AT THE NEXT MEETING. EXCELLENT.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO INVITE A MEMBER OF UTILITIES TO DISCUSS PFAS AT OUR NEXT BOARD MEETING.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT. EXCELLENT.
WE HAVE A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
BUT IT'S A BIT A BIT OF A TWIST WITH REGARDS TO HURRICANE PREPAREDNESS.
WHAT ARE THE RISKS RIGHT NOW WITH REGARDS TO IF A HURRICANE WERE TO HIT PALM BAY TODAY, FOR EXAMPLE, WE DISCUSS HOW THE AREA HAD FLOODED IN THAT ONE LOCATION IN PALM BAY.
SO IS THERE ANY OTHER AREAS IN PALM BAY THAT REPEATEDLY FLOODS OVER TIME? AND IF SO, THE PAST 2 TO 3 YEARS THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED? AND AS A CITY, MAINTAIN LIKE A MAP OF THESE LOCATIONS.
AND WE DO TRACK THEM AND WE DO MONITOR THEM THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
THE THE PROBLEM WITH GIVING AN ANSWER OF A LOCATION, THE LOCATIONS SEEM TO CHANGE.
WE WILL INVESTIGATE THAT ISSUE, FIND THE CAUSE AND FIX IT.
SO THE ISSUE WILL NO LONGER BE IN THE SAME PLACE FOR THE NEXT HURRICANE.
LAST YEAR WE UTILIZED A LINK THAT WE POSTED OUT AND PUSHED OUT TO THE CITIZENS WHERE DURING THE HURRICANE, THEY COULD GO IN AND FILL OUT A LITTLE FLOODING INFORMATION WHEN THE HURRICANE LEFT.
THAT GAVE US LIKE A, A POINT SOURCE, LIKE A DIRECT POINT TO GO CHECK AND TEST AND, YOU KNOW, RELIEVE THE FLOODING IN THOSE AREAS DIRECTLY AFTER THE HURRICANE, IT GAVE US A MORE FOCUSED AREA TO GIVE ATTENTION TO AFTER THE HURRICANE.
IT ALLOWED US TO PREP AND PLAN AND DO THE RESEARCH AND FIND THOSE AREAS.
SO THAT, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, THAT THE, THE FLOODING ISSUES KIND OF MOVE AROUND AS THE INFRASTRUCTURE WAS INSTALLED THROUGHOUT THE, THE, THE LIFE OF THE CITY AND THE, AND THE PIPES AND STUFF.
SO WE, WE DO HAVE INSPECTORS THAT INSPECT THE INFRASTRUCTURE UNDER THE GROUND AND ROADWAYS.
AND WE DO KNOW WHERE POSSIBLE FAILED PIPES ARE.
AND WE DO PLAN TO REPLACE THEM. AND I MEAN, THERE IS A PLAN TO MONITOR IT.
YES. YOU SAID THERE'S A LINK THAT THEY UTILIZE TO.
HOW DO YOU HAVE A METRIC ON THE PARTICIPATION RATE FOR THAT BASED ON THE THE RESIDENTS IN PALM BAY? I, I, SO THE IDEA HAPPENED LIKE, RIGHT WHEN BEFORE THE HURRICANE MILTON CAME THE LAST TIME.
SO THE LINK WAS PROBABLY TWO WEEKS OLD AND SHE HAD TWO WEEKS TO PUSH IT OUT BEFORE, YOU KNOW, THE ACTUAL HURRICANE SEASON CAME. SO THERE WASN'T A WHOLE LOT OF CITIZENS OR WE DIDN'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO EDUCATE THE CITIZENS THAT IT WAS AVAILABLE.
IT WAS KIND OF LIKE THEY WENT ON THE WEBSITE AND FOUND MOST, MOST OF IT.
BUT THIS YEAR IT WILL BE DIFFERENT. WE WILL HAVE IT POSTED OUT AND, AND PUSHED OUT, YOU KNOW, TO EDUCATE CITIZENS ABOUT IT BEFOREHAND HOW THE PIO DOES THAT LIKE ON SOCIAL MEDIA, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE WHAT, WHERE SHE POSTS IT AT. WHAT PROBLEMS EXIST IN PALM BAY? REGARDS TO INFRASTRUCTURE, REGARDS TO DRAINAGE AND STORMWATER ISSUES THAT YOU ALL HAVE HAD ISSUES WITH.
IS THERE ANY OVERDUE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S BEEN FIXED IN THE PAST TWO YEARS AND JUST BEEN.
THERE'S BEEN A BOTTLENECK OF SOME SORT. AND JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, IT'S KIND OF ODDBALL TYPE THINGS THAT YOU DON'T REALLY THINK ABOUT LIKE A, A BASKETBALL LEFT IN THE YARD DURING A HURRICANE WILL BLOW IN A SWALE AND WASH DOWN THE SWALE WITH THE WATER AND LITERALLY GET WEDGED IN A PIPE.
AND THEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WILL FLOOD BECAUSE OF BASKETBALL IS STUCK IN A PIPE.
SO THAT'S WHY I WAS SAYING IT'S KIND OF LIKE UNEXPECTED THINGS THAT HAPPEN MOSTLY WHERE YOU, YOU KNOW, MONITOR IT AND THE CITIZENS LET YOU KNOW THAT THERE'S AN ISSUE THERE AND THEN YOU KIND OF REACT TO IT.
AND IN SOME AREAS OF PALM BAY, THEY'RE QUITE LOW.
SO IN THESE AREAS, THIS MIGHT BE GOING INTO FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT ISSUES.
AND IF SO, I KNOW WE NEED TO DO A MOTION FOR THAT.
MAYBE. BUT IN THOSE AREAS ARE THERE REOCCURRING AREAS THAT YOU'VE NOTICED.
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AND IF SO, WHAT ARE THEY IF THEY EXIST? CAN I ADDRESS THAT? OKAY. WHERE I LIVE, IT'S PROBABLY THE OLDEST DEVELOPMENT IN PALM BAY IN PORT MALABAR COUNTRY CLUB.THE STREET THAT I'M ON IS THE LOWEST POINT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND FOR SEVEN YEARS I WAS CALLING FOR HELP BECAUSE IF WE HAD A HEAVY RAIN, I HAD A MOAT AROUND MY HOUSE.
AND IT WAS RIDICULOUS. AND PART OF IT WAS BECAUSE THE CULVERT WAS BLOCKED IN THE CANAL JUST OFF BABCOCK. SO THE CITY HAS DONE A MUCH BETTER JOB OF MAINTAINING THE CANALS.
THAT ONE IS PARTICULARLY IT, IT GETS FILLED UP REALLY FAST.
BUT THE OTHER THING IS I WORKED WITH MR. WATANABE, WHO HE WAS DOING THE ROAD.
AND THAT HAS BEEN REMEDIED WITH THE REPAVING.
I HAVEN'T HAD ANY ISSUES. THE CULVERT WAS REPLACED ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO.
HOPEFULLY IT WILL LAST BECAUSE USUALLY IT TAKES 5 TO 10 YEARS AND THEY HAVE TO DO IT OVER AGAIN.
I WISH THERE WAS A MORE PERMANENT SOLUTION, BUT THE CULVERTS ARE AN ISSUE IF THEY GET BLOCKED AND KEEPING THE CANALS CLEAR OF ALL KINDS OF DEBRIS MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE.
AND I DO BELIEVE THAT PUBLIC WORKS HAS DONE A VERY GOOD JOB IN THE LAST TWO YEARS ON THAT.
WE APPRECIATE THAT. AND THE CITY HAS MOVED TOWARDS MORE OF A PROACTIVE APPROACH IN THE IN THE IN THE MANNER OF YOU KNOW, THE PURCHASING OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF EQUIPMENT AND TECHNOLOGY, LIKE INVESTIGATING.
I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, LIKE THE VAC TRUCK THE VAC TRUCK.
WHEN I STARTED HERE, WE DIDN'T HAVE A VAC TRUCK AT PUBLIC WORKS TO CLEAN CATCH BASINS.
AND NOW WE'RE ABLE TO ACTIVELY CLEAN CATCH BASINS ALL YEAR ROUND, WHICH DOES INCLUDE THE CULVERT PIPES THAT ARE UNDER THE GROUND THERE, THERE THAT VAC TRUCK GOES OUT EVERY DAY. AND THERE'S ALSO NOW A CAMERA TRUCK THAT GOES WITH THE VAC TRUCK.
SO ONCE THE PIPE UNDER THE ROAD IS CLEANED OUT, WE'RE ABLE TO CAMERA IT AND HAVE VIDEO EVIDENCE AND RECORD OF THE CONDITION OF THE INSIDE OF THE PIPE, INSTEAD OF STANDING AT THE END OF THE PIPE AND STICKING A BAR DOWN IT AND LOOKING AROUND WITH YOUR PHONE AND VIDEOING IT AND COMING OUT NOW, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A CAMERA THAT WILL. IT'S LIKE A REMOTE CONTROL.
IT LITERALLY DRIVES THROUGH THE THE PIPE AND THEY'RE.
THEY ANALYZE IT AND EVALUATE EACH JOINT AND THEY, THERE'S LASERS ON IT THAT MEASURES THE DISTANCE, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PIPE WAS PUSHED TOGETHER PROPERLY.
SO WE HAVE DONE A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS TO OUR, OUR, OUR STORMWATER PROCESSES ALSO.
THANK YOU. TALKING TO PALM BAY RESIDENTS, I'VE HEARD JUST OFTEN THEY ARE SAYING ABOUT THE WATER ISSUES OR WATER STANDING THERE, BUT I KNOW YOU DISCUSSED ABOUT DOING THE PUBLIC, THE THE TOUR THAT I DID WITH YOU ALL THAT THIS THE STATE OF WATER AFTER STAYS AFTER A NUMBER OF DAYS AND WHATNOT. AND I'D ASKED THEM IF THEY IF IT EXCEEDED THAT NUMBER OF DAYS AND TYPICALLY THEY WOULD SAY NO.
BUT THEY, I CONSTANTLY HEAR THE SAME RESPONSE.
SO I THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR, FOR EXPLAINING THAT I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.
EXCELLENT. JUST A QUICK CHECK IN. BE MINDFUL OF OUR TIME.
WE ONLY HAVE 15 MINUTES LEFT IN TONIGHT'S MEETING.
WITH THAT SAID, IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER SIX? OKAY. SEEING NONE, WE WILL MOVE ON TO OTHER BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER ONE WHICH IS BOARD REPORTS.
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DO WE HAVE ANY VERY QUICK BOARD REPORTS THIS EVENING? NO. ANY. SAVE IT FOR NEXT TIME. OKAY. I HAVE ONE BY THE TIME I'D LIKE TO BRING IT UP NEXT MONTH.EXCELLENT. ANYONE ELSE? I WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING.
YES, MA'AM. IT'S IN REGARD TO THE COMMENT I MADE EARLIER ABOUT THE INTERNATIONAL COASTAL LAGOON.
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WHEN I WAS ASKING IF MAUREEN COUNCIL RESOURCE OR RESOURCE COUNCIL HAD ANYTHING PLANNED.I WAS LOOKING ONLINE AND I WASN'T ABLE TO FIND ANYTHING WITH PALM BAY BEING A PART OF IT.
I KNOW WE HAVE DONE IT IN THE PAST. BACK IN 2022, WE HAD THE MARINE RESOURCE COUNCIL KIND OF WORK WITH PALM BAY, BUT THERE WERE NO PALM BAY LOCATIONS THAT WERE BEING CLEANED UP.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE THAT THE BOARD GIVE ME PERMISSION TO WORK WITH CITY STAFF TO GET IN TOUCH WITH KEEPER OF OUR BEAUTIFUL, THE MARINE RESOURCE COUNCIL AND ALL OF OUR OTHER PARTNERS THAT ARE IN HAVE THE INTEREST OF OUR BEACHES IN MIND TO SORT OF COME UP WITH A, A LOCATION THAT WITHIN PALM BAY THAT WE COULD UTILIZE FOR THIS INTERNATIONAL COASTAL CLEANUP EVENT.
IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE HELD ON SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 19TH.
I'M NOT SURE. SORRY. SAY THAT AGAIN. THAT'S ALL RIGHT.
I WAS WONDERING IF WE NEEDED A MOTION FOR THAT OR IF WE COULD JUST MOVE FORWARD WITH CONSENSUS.
IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE SHE WANTS TO ACTUALLY BE PUT IN THAT ROLE OF RESPONSIBILITY.
OKAY. THEN I WILL PASS THIS ALONG AND I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPOINT THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD, APPOINTS MISS JOHNSON TO BE THE POINT OF CONTACT FOR INTERNATIONAL COASTAL CLEANUP DAY TO DEVELOP A EVENT TO SEA FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. EXCELLENT. ACTUALLY, I THINK SINCE I BROUGHT THE MOTION, YOU HAVE TO DO YOU HAVE TO CALL IT TO ORDER.
RIGHT. I FORGOT. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPOINT KRISTIN YANCE TO. INTERNATIONAL COASTAL CLEANUP TO THE INTERNATIONAL COASTAL CLEANUP PROJECT.
EVENT PROJECT REPRESENTING THE SAB. MR. CHAIR.
VICE CHAIR IS JUST DOING RESEARCH, CORRECT? YES.
IT'S DOING RESEARCH AND BRINGING SOMETHING TO THE NEXT BOARD MEETING.
SO THIS IS NOT A ACTUAL PROJECT YET. IT IN ESSENCE IS BECAUSE SHE WOULD LIKE TO BE ADDED TO THE AGENDA FOR AUGUST SO THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH IT QUICKLY. IF IT HELPS, I WOULD LOOK AT IT MORE AS YOU'RE ASSIGNING A ROLE TO A SPECIFIC MEMBER, AND BECAUSE IT'S AN ACTION ITEM, IT DESERVES THE MOTION, SO ON AND SO FORTH.
YES, I DO WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THE GREEN SPACE WATER ALLIANCE DID A CLEANUP IN PALM BAY THIS PAST SPRING, AS WELL AS AT A NUMBER OF OTHER LOCATIONS. SO THERE WAS A VOLUNTEER EVENT AND, YOU KNOW, I PARTICIPATED.
THERE WERE OTHER PEOPLE INVOLVED TOO, AND A LOT OF OTHER LOCATIONS.
BUT YES I DON'T, I DID NOT, I ALSO LOOKED FOR THE OTHER ONE THAT THE OTHER ONES THAT I, THERE WAS INTERNATIONAL OCEAN CLEANUP DAY OR SOMETHING IN OTHER YEARS AND I HADN'T SEEN THAT. SO I KNOW THAT MY RESEARCH, SO JUST SAME THING, THE ONLY ONE I FOUND WAS GREEN SPACE AND NOT ANY OF THE OTHER EVENTS THAT I USUALLY WENT TO. OKAY. ANY MORE DISCUSSION? NO HEARING. NONE. CAN WE TAKE A VOTE? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
AYE AYE. ALL OPPOSED? SAY NAY. MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO. THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU. AS I CONCLUDE YOUR REPORT.
YES, SIR. EXCELLENT. I HATE DOING THAT. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ON MY LEFT WHO WOULD LIKE A BOARD REPORT REAL QUICKLY? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, I WILL VERY BRIEFLY TOUCH ON A COUPLE OF SUBJECTS.
THE COMMUNITY VERY MUCH DID NOT WANT TO LOOK AT THEM FOR VERY LONG.
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WE DID THAT ON SATURDAY. I WAS BACK OUT THERE ON WEDNESDAY TO DO SOMETHING ELSE IN THAT AREA WITH NEMO GARDENS.AND EVERYTHING WAS GONE BY WEDNESDAY. SO WE'RE TALKING A TWO DAY, THREE DAY TURNAROUND ON THERE, SO WE WANTED TO. I DID IT AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON THURSDAY.
I GAVE PUBLIC WORKS THERE KUDOS. I WANTED TO GIVE THEM THEIR KUDOS HERE AS WELL FOR THEIR EFFORT AND ASSISTANCE WITH CLEANING UP ALL OF THE MESS THAT WE MADE, CUTTING DOWN TONS AND TONS OF BRAZILIAN PEPPERS OUT THERE.
THAT IS GOING TO BE THE ONLY TOPIC I TALK ON TONIGHT ABOUT MY BOARD REPORT.
SO IF THERE ARE NO FURTHER DISCUSSIONS, WE WILL MOVE ON TO OTHER BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER FOUR SOMEHOW.
WHICH I BELIEVE SHOULD BE TO WHICH IS UPCOMING MEETINGS AND EVENTS OF INTEREST.
DO WE HAVE ANY UPCOMING MEETINGS OR EVENTS OF INTEREST ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SHARE? OKAY I WILL, YES SIR. TREAT TREAT BEATS AND EATS IS OFFICIALLY BACK ON ITS AUGUST 21ST FROM 5 TO 8.
EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. AND THAT'S GOING TO BE BACK OUT IN FRONT OF CITY HALL.
OR IS THAT GOING TO BE. THAT REMAINS TO BE SEEN.
SACRIFICE PARK. THAT MIGHT BE THE NEW AREA. I JUST HAVEN'T GOT.
I DON'T HAVE CONFIRMATION ON THAT YET. EXCELLENT. AND ONE THING THAT I WANTED TO BRING UP JUST REAL QUICK OF OUR EVENTS OF INTEREST MYSELF AND MISS LYDIA BARBER JUST SIGNED UP FOR IT TODAY. THE BREVARD COUNTY UF IFAS AND SEA GRANT EXTENSION ARE GOING TO BE HOSTING A ENVIRONMENTAL INTERPRETATION FLORIDA MASTER NATURALIST COURSE. THEY ARE SIGNUPS ARE GOING ON THROUGH SEPTEMBER 21ST.
THE DATES I BELIEVE ARE THE 24TH AND THE 25TH.
AND THEN THE OCTOBER 2ND AND THIRD. SO YOU'VE GOT FOUR DAYS, THE FRIDAY EVENTS ARE 5 TO 9.
AND THEN SATURDAY IS 9 TO 5 FOR BOTH TWO WEEKS IN A ROW.
IF ANYBODY. YES. SEPTEMBER 25TH AND 26TH. SEPTEMBER 25TH AND 26TH, SECOND AND THIRD.
OKAY. SO I HAD MY OCTOBER DATES CORRECT, BUT MY SEPTEMBER DATES WRONG.
SO THE 25TH AND 26TH OF SEPTEMBER. OCTOBER 3RD AND FOURTH.
THE ENVIRONMENTAL INTERPRETATION CLASS IS FOCUSED PRIMARILY ON HOW TO UNDERSTAND AND DISSEMINATE CRITICAL INFORMATION, SCIENTIFIC INFORMATION. THERE'S A LOT OF MUMBO JUMBO THAT GETS OUT THERE AND FLIES OVER EVERYBODY'S HEADS. SO THE ENVIRONMENTAL INTERPRETATION CLASS IS A VERY GOOD WAY TO LEARN HOW TO KIND OF CONNECT WITH THAT, DISSEMINATE IT, INGEST IT, AND BE ABLE TO SHARE IT OUT.
YOU LEARN HOW TO LEARN STUFF AND SHARE THAT INFORMATION.
ALL RIGHT. AND WITH THAT, I BELIEVE WE HAVE NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.
SO WE WILL ADJOURN THIS MEETING AT 7:53 P.M..
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.