OKAY, LET'S CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. OH, IT SAYS 601. [CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:04] THERE WE GO. CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. THIS IS REGULAR MEETING 2026-08 OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD. CARMEN, COULD WE HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? YES, MA'AM. CHAIR PRESENT VICE CHAIR HERE. BOARD MEMBER. FISHER. PRESENT. BOARD MEMBER. JOHNSON. BOARD MEMBER. JOHNSON. OKAY. THANK YOU. BOARD MEMBER. MAUREEN. BOARD MEMBER. MCNEIL. BOARD MEMBER OF BOARD MEMBER. THOMAS. BOARD MEMBER. RHODES. BOARD MEMBER. MR.. PRESENT BOARD MEMBER. PRICE. PRESENT. THANK YOU. AND JUST SO EVERYBODY HEARD, WE HAVE MR. JOHNSON ON THE PHONE. WE DO HAVE TWO NEW BOARD MEMBERS THIS EVENING, MR. RHODES AND MR. PRICE. MR. RHODES, DO YOU WANT TO START WITH YOU? DO YOU WANT TO GIVE US A QUICK INTRO? GOOD EVENING, AARON RHODES. I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY SINCE THE SECOND GRADE. HAD THE HONOR TO WORK HERE AS A FIREFIGHTER FOR ALMOST TEN YEARS. MANY YEARS AGO. SO ALMOST 20 YEARS AGO NOW. WE STILL RESIDE OVER IN TURKEY CREEK, AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO PARTICIPATING WITH THE BOARD. EXCELLENT. WELCOME. AND MR. PRICE. MY NAME IS BILL PRICE. I'M THE OWNER OF PRICE FAMILY HOMES. YOUR FRIENDLY LOCAL NEIGHBORHOOD HOMEBUILDER. WE DEVELOP PROPERTIES AND BUILD ON YOUR LAND OR OURS ALL OVER BREVARD AND INDIAN RIVER COUNTY. BUT THIS IS AN AD FOR ME MY COMPANY ABOUT ME PERSONALLY, I GRADUATED FROM FITI WORKED IN THE DEFENSE INDUSTRIAL BASE AND STRUCK OUT ON MY OWN. MY KIDS GO TO SCHOOL HERE. I'VE LIVED HERE FOR 30 PLUS YEARS. I LOVE THIS TOWN. EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT. WELL, WELCOME TO BOTH OF YOU. WE'RE WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE BOTH OF YOU ON THE BOARD, AND WE. WE LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING YOUR EXPERTISE. SO WE WILL MOVE ON. [ADOPTION OF MINUTES] WE HAVE ADOPTION OF THE MINUTES. WE HAVE TWO SETS OF MINUTES FOR APPROVAL TONIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION ON THOSE OR DO WE WANT TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MOTION TO APPROVE BOTH SETS OF MINUTES. IF WE CAN DO THEM BOTH AT ONE TIME. I'M NOT SURE WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? CAN WE DO CAN WE CAN WE DO THEM SIMULTANEOUSLY OR DO THEY HAVE TO BE SEPARATE? THE ONLY THING I DID NOTICE WAS ON THE AGENDA. I THINK IT SAYS THE 2024, WHICH I DON'T THINK IT PERTAINS TO. IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE CHANGED IN THE ACTUAL MINUTES, BUT SO I. MADAM CHAIR, IF I MAY. YES, MA'AM. I THINK THERE IS A TYPO ON THE AGENDA THAT REFERENCES MEETING. 2020 404. BUT IF THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE REVIEWED THE MINUTES, I THINK IT'S FINE. IF THE MOTION JUST SAYS THAT I'M FINE WITH ONE MOTION TO ADOPT BOTH SETS OF MINUTES FROM THE MEETING DATES OF APRIL 15TH, 2026 AND MAY 20TH OF 2026. THANK YOU. COUNCIL. OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND WITH THAT AMENDMENT OF 2020 604 AS THAT FIRST SET OF MINUTES. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE, AYE AYE. ANY OPPOSED? I'M HEARING NONE. I VOTE AYE. AND THAT MOTION PASSES. SO THEN WE WILL MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENTS ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS ONLY. SEEING NONE. SO THEN WE WILL MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS. [NEW BUSINESS] I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MISS CARTER. OKAY. EACH YEAR, BY SEPTEMBER THE 15TH, THE CITY OF PALM BAY IS REQUIRED TO SUBMIT TO THE FLORIDA HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION OUR ANNUAL REPORT. AND THAT'S WHAT IT'S ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING. THE CITY MUST ANNUALLY REPORT TO ON LOCAL AFFORDABLE HOUSING EXPENDITURES. LEVERAGING BENEFICIARY DEMOGRAPHICS AND, AND OTHER INFORMATION. THE REPORT COVERS FROM THE TIME PERIOD OF JULY 1ST THROUGH JULY 30TH, 2026. AND SO IT'S ON A DIFFERENT FISCAL YEAR THAN THE CITY. SO WE CLOSED OUT JUNE 30TH JUST TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO ACHIEVE LAST YEAR. AND WE DECIDED TO DO THIS REPORT A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY THAN WE NORMALLY DO. WE JUST USUALLY JUST GIVE YOU THAT REPORT THAT'S PRINTED OUT IN YOUR PACKET, BUT WE DECIDED TO GIVE YOU PICTURES ALSO THIS YEAR SO THAT WE COULD SHOW YOU SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE ACCOMPLISHING. WITH THAT WE WERE ABLE TO RENOVATE 13 HOMES. FOR HOUSING REHABILITATION, WE CAN SPEND UP TO $100,000 ON EACH HOME. COUNCIL GAVE US THAT APPROVAL. [00:05:02] AND WITH THAT, IT'S REALLY ABOUT $95,000 THAT WE CAN SPEND. WE HAVE INSPECTION COSTS IN THERE. WE HAVE RECORDING FEES IN THERE. WE HAVE LIEN TITLE SEARCHES. SO ALL OF THOSE SOFT COSTS ARE IN THAT 5000. SO WE SPENT ABOUT 90, UP TO 95,000 ON A SINGLE FAMILY RENOVATION AND THEN RENTAL DEVELOPMENT. WE RENOVATED FOUR APARTMENTS FOR THE SOUTH BREVARD WOMEN'S CENTER THERE. TRANSITIONAL HOUSING FOR IT'S FOR WOMEN THAT HAVE BEEN ABUSED. SO WE RENOVATED FOUR APARTMENTS FOR THEM AND THEN WE HAVE ONE RENTAL UNIT THAT WAS CONSTRUCTED. IT'S 31 UNIT PROJECT. THE TOTAL PROJECT COST WAS OVER $6 MILLION. THE CITY PARTICIPATED BY USING SOME OF THE ARPA MONEY THAT WAS GIVEN DURING COVID AT 975,000 AND THEN 100,000 OF THE SHIP FUNDS WHICH WENT TO A ACCESSIBLE DWELLING UNIT. SO WITH THAT, THAT KIND OF GIVES YOU A SUMMARY OF WHAT YOU WOULD FIND IN THIS REPORT. AND THEN WE BROKE DOWN HOW WE HAVE TO REPORT IT. IT'S, IT'S MAINTAINED ON A SPREADSHEET. AND THE SPREADSHEET KIND OF GATHERS SOME OF THE NUMBERS IN THAT REPORT. ARE THERE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS? AND THEN I CAN GO THROUGH THE PROJECTS. OKAY. LET ME GO AHEAD AND I'LL SHOW YOU SOME OF THE WHAT WE WERE REFERRING TO IN THE POWERPOINT. OKAY. YES. YEAH. DOES THAT WORK? OKAY. OKAY. GO BACK. YEAH. OKAY. THIS HOUSE AND EVERY HOUSE THAT WE DO. I GO OUT AND SEE IT BEFORE I SIGN. I WANT TO SEE THAT THE WORK WAS DONE AND THAT I'M. I'M PUTTING MY NAME TO SOMETHING THAT THE WORK WAS DONE. SO YOU CAN SEE THE BEFORE AND THE AFTER IN THAT PICTURE. THERE WAS A LOT OF DAMAGE IN THE BACK OF THE, THE HOME. WE GET PRIVATE CONTRACTORS, WE WORK WITH OUR PROCUREMENT DEPARTMENT TO PROCURE. CONTRACTORS IN A POOL. AND SO WE HAVE TEN CONTRACTORS THAT QUALIFY. THEY MET THE DEADLINE, SUBMITTED THE INFORMATION, AND THEY GET TO BID EACH TIME THAT WE HAVE A HOUSE GOING OUT. SO WE SEND THEM INFORMATION AND THEN THEY SUBMIT THEIR BIDS. AND THIS WAS THE LOWEST BIDDER ON THIS PROJECT. OTD. TERRY CUNNINGHAM OKAY. ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, I THINK WE, BESIDES DOING THE EXTERIOR, I KNOW WE DID SOME INTERIOR. I THINK IT'S IN HER RESTROOM THAT WE DID THAT WORK. LET ME GET TO MY FILE. YES. WE PUT IN NEW WINDOWS. LIKE I SAID, THEY HAD A LOT OF DAMAGE IN THE BACK OF THE HOUSE AND THAT WAS REPAIRED. AND THEN WE PUT IN AN A C AND WE DID SOME INTERIOR WORK. LIKE I SAID, IN THEIR RESTROOMS. OKAY. AND HERE WE JUST WANTED YOU ALL TO SEE SOME OF THE RESTROOM WORK THAT WE DO. WE WE'RE NOT SPENDING A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE THE HOUSE SAFE AND SANITARY. AND, AND IN THE CASE OF THE FIRST HOUSE, THERE WERE SENIOR CITIZENS. AND IN THE CASE OF THIS HOUSE, THIS COUPLE ARE, THEY'RE SENIOR CITIZENS. AND WE, WE PUT IN A NEW SEPTIC TANK AT THEIR HOME AS WELL. YOU PUT IN THE SEPTIC TANK WITH SHIP FUNDS OR WITH ANOTHER FUNDING SOURCE. WE, WE, WE HAVE TWO PROGRAMS. WE HAVE ONE WHERE WE'LL, WE'LL PUT IN THE SEPTIC TANK WITH SHIP. AND THEN WE HAVE THE ARPA MONEY WHERE WE WERE TRYING TO MOVE PEOPLE OFF OF SEPTIC TANK. OKAY. OH, BUT SHE HAD AN EXHIBIT EXISTING CONNECTION HERE. OH, THERE'S NO WAY TO CONNECT THEN. THAT'S YOU COULD TELL WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THAT. YES. AND THEN HERE WE HAD INSTALLATION OF THE WALK IN SHOWER. THIS GENTLEMAN IS A VETERAN AND SO HE WAS MODERATE INCOME, SO WE DIDN'T SPEND A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY AT HIS HOME. [00:10:01] BUT WHAT WE DID SPEND, HE HAD A LOT OF MOLD. AND SO WE HAD TO DO A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS IN HIS KITCHEN. BUT AFTER THE CONTRACTOR FINISHED, I THOUGHT THE CONTRACTOR DID AN EXCELLENT JOB WITH WE HAD TO REPLACE CABINETS. WE, BECAUSE OF THE MOLD THAT HE HAD. SO HE ENDED UP ACTUALLY PUTTING IN SOME MONEY IN HIS HOME BECAUSE WE WENT OVER THE 41,000 THAT WE COULD SPEND IN HIS HOME. AND HE WAS MODERATE INCOME. SO WE TOLD HIM, IF YOU WANT TO FINISH ALL THAT HE HAS ON THIS LIST, THEN YOU WILL HAVE TO PUT IN THE REST. AND IT WAS LIKE 3 OR $4000. OKAY. HERE THIS LADY, SHE REALLY HAD A LOT OF MOLD DAMAGE IN HER HOUSE. WHAT WAS HAPPENING HERE IS HER HOUSE. HER YARD WAS SLOPED AND IT WAS SLOPED BACK TO THE HOME. SO WATER IN THAT AREA WHERE THE WINDOWS ARE. AND SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE HAD TO DEAL WITH THE OUTSIDE OF HER HOME AS WELL. SO WE HAD TO RE SLOPE IT SO THAT THE WATER WOULD GO AWAY FROM OUR HOUSE INSTEAD OF COMING IN AND SITTING, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE IT WAS. AND SHE HAD VINYL SIDING ON HER HOME. AND SO SHE WAS WONDERING WHY SHE WAS HAVING PROBLEMS WITH THOSE WINDOWS. AND THEN WE REPLACED THEM AND WE PUT IN IMPACT GLASS WINDOWS. BUT WE ALSO TOOK OUT THE TREE THAT WAS NEAR THERE. AND SLOPED TO HER HOME SO THE WATER WOULD GO AWAY FROM HER HOME INSTEAD OF COMING AND SITTING RIGHT NEAR THOSE WINDOWS. SO THAT WAS A BIG THING. BUT THEN WE ALSO GAVE HER A NEW CABINETS, NEW KITCHEN HAD SOME BATHROOM, RESTROOM IMPROVEMENTS, BATHROOM IMPROVEMENTS AT HER HOME. SO I'M GOING OFF MY MEMORY AS I GO OUT TO THESE HOUSES. OKAY. YES. AND WE PUT IN IN PLATE GLASS IN HER, HER HOME. WE REALLY TRY TO PUT IN IMPACT GLASS BECAUSE IMPACT WINDOWS, BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE ARE OLDER AND THEY CAN'T, THEY HAVE TO FIND SOMEBODY TO BOARD UP THEIR HOME, EVEN IF YOU HAVE THE PANELS. SO IT'S, IT'S MUCH MORE PRACTICAL AND ALMOST THE COST OUT OUTWEIGHS, YOU KNOW, THE IMPACT GLASS JUST PUTTING IN IMPACT GLASS INSTEAD OF PUTTING IN PANELS. OKAY. WE DID PUT PANELS ON SOMEONE'S HOME RECENTLY, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE WE HAD TO. LET ME GO ON TO THE NEXT HOUSE AND THEN HERE YOU'LL SEE HERE WHERE WE REPLACE THE ROOF. AND I WILL SHOW YOU HER HOUSE LATER. SHE HAD DAMAGE AND YOU COULD SEE THAT BEFORE AND AFTER. FROM THE SKYLIGHT. SO AFTER GOING IN AND TALKING WITH HER A LITTLE BIT, YOU COULD FIND, WE FOUND OUT THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF THINGS HER HUSBAND HAD PASSED. AND SO SHE WAS LIVING BY HERSELF. THERE WERE THINGS. WELL, NO, I THINK SHE HAS A DAUGHTER BECAUSE WE HAD TO DO A DOOR REPLACEMENT AND ONE OF HER DAUGHTER'S ROOMS. SO SHE. WE I TALKED WITH HER AND WE, WE WERE ABLE TO DO A LOT MORE THINGS FOR HER WITHIN THE 100,000 BUDGET THAT WE HAVE. SO WE WERE ABLE TO PAINT HER PAINT REDUCE SOME DOOR REPLACEMENTS. WE DID IMPACT WINDOWS. WE ALSO HELPED HER WITH HER WALKWAY BECAUSE I ALMOST TRIPPED GOING INTO HER HOUSE AND I SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, THIS SHOULD BE IN, IN THE RIGHT UP ALONG WITH AND YOU'LL SEE I THINK THIS GOT OUT OF ORDER A LITTLE BIT, BUT I'LL SHOW YOU. WE ALSO CUT BACK TREES NOW BECAUSE THEY'RE I JUST, I JUST TOLD THE INSPECTORS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT TO BE SENSIBLE WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR ROOF THAT WE'RE REPLACING AND THEN THE TREES ARE GOING TO BANG THAT HIT THAT ROOF RIGHT DURING A HURRICANE. SO WE'RE CUTTING BACK THE TREES SO THAT THEY WON'T THEY WON'T DAMAGE THE ROOF. SO THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE THINGS. HERE IN THIS HOUSE WE REMOVED SOME WALLS AND WE COMBINED TWO BATHROOMS INTO ONE TO MAKE IT MORE ACCESSIBLE. AND THEY COULD, THEY COULD TURN BETTER. SO IF WE CAN DO SOME REDESIGN AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE [00:15:12] IT'S WITHIN OUR, OUR BUDGET. WE CAN DO THAT. WE DO HAVE ONE INSPECTOR. IT'S ONE OF OUR INSPECTORS DOES PLANS AND CAN DO ALL OF THAT. HERE. WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME AT THIS LADY'S HOUSE. AND WE, WE ENDED UP HAVING, SHE HAD TERMITE DAMAGE. SO THAT WHOLE SIDE OF THE HOUSE CAME OFF AND THEY HAD TO REBUILD IT BACK. AND WITH THAT, WE HAD A CONTRACTOR WHO IS NO LONGER WITH OUR PROGRAM. AND HOPEFULLY WE TRY TO VET OUR CONTRACTORS AND WE TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING THE BEST. WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE CONTRACTOR FROM THE START BECAUSE HE DROVE SO FAR, HE WAS FROM SOUTH FLORIDA. SO IT, IT MADE IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR THE HOMEOWNERS WHEN THEY HAVE TO COME SO FAR. SO HE'S NO LONGER WITH US. WE TERMINATED OUR CONTRACT WITH HIM. AND WE ASKED FOR. COST ESTIMATES FROM TWO OF OUR CONTRACTORS THAT WE KNOW THAT WE KNEW WOULD BE ABLE TO IMPROVE HER HOUSE. SHE HAD VINYL SIDING. WE REPLACED THE VINYL SIDING. BUT WE HAD TO PUT IN IMPACT GLASS WINDOWS AND THE FIRST CONTRACTOR COULD NOT DO IT ADEQUATELY. HE JUST DID NOT MEET THE STANDARDS. SO THIS GENTLEMAN ALSO REALIZED, AND WE TALKED TO HIM, WE SAID, WELL, WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF SUNSHINE ON THE EAST SIDE OF HER HOUSE. THAT'S WHY SHE WAS HESITANT ABOUT US CUTTING BACK HER TREES. SO WE PUT IN TENANT WINDOWS IN THE FRONT. SO THAT TO CUT DOWN SOME OF THE SUNSHINE THAT WAS COMING INTO OUR HOUSE, PLUS HER HOUSE SHOULD SHOULD HER BILLS SHOULD BE LOWER BECAUSE WE NOW HAVE IMPACT GLASS WINDOWS AND THAT SHOULD HELP HER UP. SHE WORKS HARD. THIS LADY IS A HARD WORKING LADY AND AND HER DAUGHTER'S IN COLLEGE. AND THEY WENT THROUGH A LOT WITH THAT ONE CONTRACTOR, BUT WE WORKED WITH OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT. WE GOT EVERYTHING TAKEN CARE OF, AND SHE HAS A NICE HOUSE NOW. SHE'S VERY HAPPY. AND THIS HOUSE, THIS IS THESE GOT OUT OF ORDER. THIS LADY, THIS IS THE SAME HOUSE WHERE WE SAW THE MOLD AND THE WINDOWS REPLACED. APPARENTLY HER, HER CABINETS, ONE OF HER CABINETS JUST FELL OFF THE WALL. AND SO WE REPLACED HER KITCHEN CABINETS AS WELL WHILE WE WERE THERE. WHAT WE DO IS WE HAVE OUR INSPECTORS GO IN. WE WE HAVE INSPECTORS THAT GO IN AND FULLY GO AROUND TO EVERY ROOM IN THE HOUSE AND SEE WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. AND FROM THERE, WE LOOK AT WHAT CAN WE DO WITHIN $100,000 TO THESE HOMES? SOME OF THEM WE DON'T GO TO 100. THEY DON'T NEED IT. WE'RE GIVING PEOPLE WHAT THEY NEED. AND THEN THE ONES THERE ARE SOME WITH JUST THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION AND WHAT WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE? LIKE THIS HOUSE HERE. WE DID PAINT THE OUTSIDE. SHE WANTED A NEW KITCHEN, NEW KITCHEN CABINETS. SHE COULDN'T GET IT BECAUSE HER HOUSE NEEDED FOUNDATIONAL WORK. SHE HAD CRACKS IN IT. AND SO WE DEALT WITH WHAT WAS MOST IMPORTANT FIRST. AND THEN IF WE CAN DO ANY GENERAL PROPERTY IMPROVEMENTS AFTER, WE'LL DO THAT. SO HERE WE DEALT WITH HER FOUNDATION AND TRY AND THEN WENT IN AND TRIED TO COVER THE, THE CRACKS BECAUSE WE NOW, WE'VE NOW DEALT WITH THE FOUNDATION ISSUES THAT SHE HAS. SO, AND I'M PRETTY SURE I THINK WE DID SOME WINDOW REPLACEMENT FOR MY MEMORY ON THAT ONE. OKAY. BUT YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW AND WHAT WE, WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT ABILITY WHEN WE DIDN'T, [00:20:03] WHEN WE ONLY HAD 75,000. IS IT JUST THE, THE SHADOWS OR DID YOU REPLACE THE ROOF TOO? I THINK SHE, YES, YES WE DID. YEAH. OH YEAH. WE SPENT, WE SPENT QUITE A BIT OF MONEY IN HER HOME. THE ISSUES ARE USUALLY WATER RELATED. WAS ANY DRAINAGE ADDRESSED AROUND THE PROPERTY? I DON'T RECALL THAT THERE WAS ANY DRAINAGE ISSUES. IT WAS JUST CRACKS IN THE BACK ON THE SIDE ON BOTH SIDES OF HER HOUSE. AND YOU COULD SEE SOME INTERIOR WHEN I WALKED IN. SHE HAD SOME INTERIOR AS WELL. THIS HOUSE IS THE ONE WHERE WE HAD THE SKYLIGHT. AND YOU COULD SEE THE DIFFERENCE. YOU COULD SEE THE WALKWAY TO WHERE WE REPLACED PART OF HER WALKWAY BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S THE AREA WHERE I ALMOST TRIPPED GOING IN. YOU COULDN'T EVEN SEE HER. HER, HER WALKWAY. IT, IT REALLY NEEDED TO BE CLEANED. RIGHT. SO WE DID THAT ALONG WITH SOME DRIVEWAY, BUT WE DID A LOT OF THINGS IN THIS LADY'S HOUSE. A LOT OF THINGS, INCLUDING THE ROOF. PAINTED FLOORING DOORS. SHE HAD A REPAIR IN HER CABINETS THAT SHE NEEDED. WE DID THAT. SO SHE'S BY HERSELF NOW. HER HOME, HER HUSBAND PASSED SO. WELL, SHE HAS A DAUGHTER THERE, BUT HE'S NO LONGER ABLE TO DO THINGS. AND HERE I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE TREES. AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TREES. WE'RE TOUCHING THE ROOF. AND IF A TREE IS TOUCHING THE ROOF. I ASKED THE INSPECTORS, PLEASE WRITE IT UP. WRITE IT UP TO CUT IT BACK, BECAUSE WE'RE ONLY THEY'RE ONLY GOING TO DAMAGE IT. AND SHE'S ELDERLY. SHE SAID, I CAN'T GET OUT THERE AND, YOU KNOW, CUT THE TREES. MY HUSBAND USED TO DO IT, BUT HE'S NO LONGER WITH ME, SO. THEN HERE'S THE SOUTH BREVARD WOMEN'S CENTER BUILDING. THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SHELTER. IT WAS COMPLETELY GUTTED. INTERIOR. IT WAS COMPLETELY DAMAGED WITH MOLD. THEY HAD JUST A REAL BAD MOLD PROBLEM. AND SO BAD IT WAS VACANT FOR A YEAR. THEY COULD NOT KEEP ANYBODY. AND THEY STILL HAVE FOUR MORE UNITS THAT NEED TO BE RENOVATED. AND SO WE ASKED THEM TO HIRE AN ARCHITECT WHO WILL OVERSEE EVERYTHING THAT THEY, THEY NEEDED TO BE DONE. AND THANK GOODNESS WE WERE ABLE TO GET THAT ARCHITECT. SO HE WAS ABLE TO ADVISE THEM ON SOME THINGS. WE ALSO GOT SOME PRO BONO WORK FROM MH WILLIAMS FROM, FROM MIKE. HE CAME IN AND LOOKED AT IT TO SEE WHAT THEY NEEDED TO DO INSIDE BECAUSE HE FELT THAT WITH THAT MOLD, THERE WAS MORE BEHIND THE DRYWALL. AND SURE ENOUGH, IT WAS IT WAS EVERYWHERE. AND THEY HAD ONE, ONE, ONE UNIT THAT THEY REALLY HAD A LOT OF DAMAGE IN THE ROOF. THE INTERIOR FROM MOLD. SO THEY ENDED UP HAVING TO STUCCO THE OUTSIDE, TAKE OFF ALL OF THE EXTERIOR. BECAUSE THAT WAS A PROBLEM FROM THE CONTRACTORS THAT, THAT PROTECT THAT WHATEVER THEY USED. IT WAS, IT, IT ABSORBED WATER, THAT EXTERIOR. SO THEY TOOK ALL OF THAT OFF. SO IT WAS COMPLETELY COMPLETELY RENOVATED. SO THAT'S THE $309,000 PROJECT THAT YOU ALL SEE. AND THEN HERE'S ANOTHER SINGLE FAMILY HOME. THIS, GENTLEMAN IS DISABLED. AND WE WERE ABLE TO DO A LOT OF THINGS IN THIS HOUSE. HE NEEDED A LOT OF WORK FROM THE STUCCO TO THE NEW GARAGE DOOR, NEW ROOF ADDITIONAL THE DRIVEWAY REPLACEMENT. AND WE DO DRIVEWAYS. WE, WE'RE, WE ALSO KEEP PEOPLE FROM WE'VE HAD CODE ENFORCEMENT TO WRITE PEOPLE UP DRIVEWAYS AND SO WE'RE ABLE TO ADDRESS THE DRIVEWAYS. THIS GOT OUT OF ORDER. THIS IS THE, WHAT THE INTERIOR LOOKS LIKE OF THE SOCCER WOMEN'S CENTER BUILDING. [00:25:05] AND THIS IS THE BUILDING WHERE WE WORK WITH VOLUNTEERS OF AMERICA SPACE COAST COMMONS 31 UNITS. THAT'S THE $6 MILLION PROJECT THAT'S ON THE ON CONVEYOR AT THE END OF THE STREET. AND IT'S AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND THEY JUST CELEBRATED A YEAR OF, OF, OF THAT PROJECT. AND THAT'S. THAT'S GREAT. A SUMMARY OF WHAT'S IN THE REPORT. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS CARTER? MADAM CHAIR? YES, SIR. I DO HAVE A SLEW OF QUESTIONS. OKAY. GO RIGHT AHEAD. MOSTLY JUST TRYING TO EDUCATE MYSELF ON ON ALL THE PROCESSES. SO I DON'T THINK I ONLY SEE ONE THAT MAY ACTUALLY AFFECT THE REPORT. SO A HANDFUL OF QUESTIONS AND THEY'RE ALL OVER THE PLACE. I DIDN'T WANT TO INTERRUPT YOU WHILE YOU WERE GOING THROUGH THE THING. THE BAD CONTRACTOR. SO THE EVALUATIONS THAT I SEE, SO THE REPORT THAT GETS SUBMITTED TO THE STATE IS THE NUMBERED PAGES ALL THE WAY UP UNTIL THE SEAL PAGE. THE EVALUATIONS AND THE PICTURES THAT THAT WAS FOR OUR BENEFIT. YES. AND THE EVALUATIONS, ARE THEY MANDATORY OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THE CITY DOES? WE WE DO IT. THAT WAS IT. YEAH. PURCHASING RECOMMENDS THAT WE EVALUATE OUR OUR CONTRACTORS. RIGHT. AND THEN WE HAVE EVALUATIONS FROM THE HOMEOWNERS. SO WE KNOW HOW THEY'RE DOING. AND SOME OF THEM MOST OF THEM WILL BE HONEST, YOU KNOW AND IF NOT, THEY WILL BE HONEST WITH ME. RIGHT. I'M OUT THERE. HOW DID IT GO? OR THEY'LL TELL US AND THEY, THEY BECOME OUR OTHER INSPECTOR. AND I, I, YOU KNOW, I REALLY ENCOURAGE THEM TO DO THAT. IT'S YOUR HOME. LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENING. TELL US. WE MAY NOT SEE IT. SO PLEASE KEEP A LIST. AND ONE LADY RECENTLY, WHEN I WENT OUT, SHE HAD HER LIST. AND THAT REALLY HELPED US. RIGHT. AND SO SO SOME OF THESE ARE JUST A PROJECT. I'M ASSUMING THE PROJECT MANAGERS ARE NOT NECESSARILY HOMEOWNERS, BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE SOME OF THEM WERE LIKE THE WOMEN'S CENTER, BUT THE OTHER ONES WERE THE HOMEOWNERS THAT FILLED THESE OUT. YES. AND SO THAT IS COMING DIRECTLY FROM THE RENTAL. THE RENTAL WOULD BE THE VOA AND THE SOUTH BREVARD WOMEN'S CENTER. IS THAT ALL OF THEM OR WAS THERE ONE FROM THE ONE THAT HAD THE ROUGH CONTRACTOR? BECAUSE THESE ALL ARE GREAT. THESE ALL HAVE PHENOMENAL COMMENTS THAT I THINK SHOULD BE SHARED. YEAH. WE DIDN'T. WE JUST GAVE YOU A SAMPLE, RIGHT. YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T GIVE YOU ALL 13. 13 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. THE AND THAT'S GOOD. YOU MENTIONED INSPECTORS. ARE THOSE CITY INSPECTORS OR ARE THOSE CONTRACTORS AS WELL? THEY'RE CONTRACTED INSPECTORS. WE WERE WE WENT TO COUNCIL AND ASKED COUNCIL FOR A FULL TIME INSPECTOR AND WE WERE NOT APPROVED. SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS ADJUST AND MOVE FORWARD. AND SO ADJUSTING AND MOVING FORWARD, WE, WE'RE CONTRACTING OUT. AND WHAT'S INTERESTING NOW I GUESS WITH WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED IN THE FUTURE WITH, WITH PROPERTY TAXES. WE'RE GETTING QUESTIONS FROM OTHER CITIES AND AND THE COUNTY. WHEN PEOPLE ARE, ARE LEAVING, THEY'RE NOT REPLACING THEM. SO THEY'RE SAYING, WELL, HEY, YOU GUYS, CAN YOU SEND US WHAT YOU ALL ARE DOING? SO WE WE HAVE A CONTRACTOR POOL, WHICH IS, I WAS GLAD THE, THE THE PROCUREMENT OFFICER WORKED WITH US AND CAME UP WITH AN AGREEMENT SO THAT WE COULD HAVE THE CONTRACTORS SIGN THAT AGREEMENT. SO THERE'S, THEY SIGNED THAT AGREEMENT TO PARTICIPATE. AND THEN THEY ALSO SIGN THE CONSTRUCTION AGREEMENT WITH THE HOMEOWNER. GOTCHA. SO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO MOVE THEM OFF THE PROGRAM EASIER IF THEY'RE NOT RIGHT UP TO PAR. THAT'S GOOD. THE THE MENTION ON CODE VIOLATIONS IS THAT IS, IS PART OF THIS PROGRAM. DOES THE CITY WORK WITH THE CITIZEN WHEN THEY'VE GOT VIOLATIONS, OUTSTANDING VIOLATIONS, OR HOW DOES THAT WORK WHEN THEY COME OUT THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS PROJECT, DO THEY STILL HAVE VIOLATIONS? NO. DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I MEAN? THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE VIOLATIONS BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS THE VIOLATIONS ARE FIRST. THAT'S WHAT THE INSPECTOR NEEDS TO ADDRESS. THEN WE CAN MOVE DOWN TO GENERAL PROPERTY IMPROVEMENTS. YEAH. OKAY. AND THEN ON THE ON THE REPORT ITSELF IS, IS IT THIS LIKE A PDF THAT'S SUBMITTED OR IS THE ACTUAL SPREADSHEET WAS WHAT SUBMITTED TO THE SPREADSHEET. THEY HAVE A, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN. FLORIDA HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION HAS THEIR OWN WAY THAT THEY WANT US TO SUBMIT IT. OKAY. SO WE SUBMIT IT IN, IN THAT SPREADSHEET. I JUST NOTICED AN ERROR SHOWING UP, WHICH I'M SURE WASN'T ON THE ACTUAL SPREADSHEET ON PAGE ONE. AND THEN SO THESE, THE, ALL THESE PROJECTS OCCURRED IN THE 2324 PROJECT YEAR, RIGHT? WHEN WE'RE OPERATING ON THE STATE'S FISCAL YEAR, JULY TO JUNE. [00:30:03] AND THEN SO WERE THESE ALL COMPLETED IN 24. AND THEN WE TOOK 25, 26 TO GET THE PAYMENTS AND ALL THAT STUFF KIND OF CLEARED UP OR WAS OR DID THIS RUN THROUGH? HOW IS IT? IS IT A DEFINITIVE YOU'VE GOT TO GET IT DONE OR CAN YOU FILE FOR EXTENSIONS? AND THEN IT'S GOING TO KIND OF LEAD INTO THE 12000 ROLLOVER. THE WAY IT WORKS, THE STATE REQUIRES YOU TO EXPAND YOUR FUNDS. THEY GIVE YOU A LITTLE OVER. IT'S NOT QUITE THREE YEARS, BUT BY THE TIME IT ROLLS AROUND, IT IS CLOSE TO THREE YEARS. RIGHT? OKAY. SO THEN YOU HAVE TO WE HAVE TO DO TWO THINGS FOR SHIP. AND EVERY EVERY GRANT IS DIFFERENT. AND I'LL SIT DOWN WITH YOU GUYS IN ORIENTATION. YEAH. BUT EVERY GRANT IS DIFFERENT. SO FOR SHIP, WE HAVE TO WE HAVE TO SPEND ONE YEAR AND ENCUMBER A WHOLE YEAR OF MONEY. OKAY. SO WHEN WE ENCUMBER, THAT MEANS THAT WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING WITH, WITH SHIP ONE DOING APPLICATIONS AND GETTING THOSE PROCESSED. AND WE HAVE TO HAVE APPLICATIONS AND THOSE APPLICATIONS APPROVED TO ENCUMBER THAT MONEY. SO ONCE WE GET THOSE APPLICATIONS AND THEY'RE APPROVED, WE HAVE A WHOLE YEAR ENCUMBERED AND THEN A WHOLE YEAR SPENT. WHAT OUR GOAL IS THIS YEAR IS TO TRY TO SPEND TWO YEARS OF MONEY. SO WITH THAT, WE HAVE TO DIVERSIFY. WE'RE GOING TO DIVERSIFY OUR PORTFOLIO. SO WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING AN RFP. WE'LL BE DOING RENTAL, BUT WE'RE GOING TO DO MORE WITH SINGLE FAMILY AS WELL. AND, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO DO DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE UNDER SHIP. SO THAT WAY WITH DIVERSIFYING OUR PORTFOLIO, WE CAN SPEND MORE MONEY. I, WE, OUR STAFF TALKED ABOUT WE WANT TO TREAT THE SHIP PROGRAM LIKE WE WOULD TREAT OUR OWN FINANCES RIGHT. YOU DIVERSIFY. YOU DON'T HAVE IT ALL IN ONE ONE AREA. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. AWESOME. AND I GUESS THAT KIND OF EXPLAINS THE 12,000 LEFTOVER. SO THAT ROLLS OVER. SO THEY ARE OKAY WITH THAT FROM YEAR TO YEAR WITH WHAT YOU HAVE, YOU CAN ROLL OVER. YES, A FEW THOUSAND. BUT FOR THE MOST PART YOU HAVE TO EXPAND AND REACH YOUR EXPENSE. WELL, YOU HAVE TO REACH YOUR EXPENDITURE GOAL. RIGHT. AND LAST QUESTION. AND THEN DID YOU AND I MAY HAVE MISSED IT WHILE I WAS FLIPPING BACK AND FORTH, THOUGH, THAT THERE WAS ONE HOMEOWNER YOU MENTIONED THAT DID PAY EXTRA MONEY OR DID NOT PAY. OH, HE HE HAD TO PAY. HE DID PAY THE EXTRA MONEY, THE EXTRA 3 OR 4000. SO THEN WOULD THAT GO UNDERNEATH ON PAGE TWO, THE OWNER CONTRIBUTION. WHERE IT SAYS LEVERAGING UNDERNEATH THE LEVERAGING. YEAH WE COULD THAT'S A GOOD POINT. WE COULD ADD IN HER CELEBRITY. YES. YES. AWESOME. OKAY. SORRY TO BELABOR THAT. NO GREAT QUESTIONS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO OTHER QUESTIONS. OKAY, SO I BELIEVE WE NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ANNUAL REPORT AND SUBMIT IT TO THE FLORIDA HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION. MOTION TO APPROVE THE ANNUAL REPORT AND SUBMIT IT TO THE FLORIDA HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION. MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? I'M HEARING NONE, I VOTE AYE. YES, MA'AM. BECAUSE HE'S ON THE PHONE. HIS VOTE IS NO. WHAT? WHAT? HE'S ON THE PHONE. OH, HE CAN'T VOTE ON THE PHONE. HE DOESN'T COUNT. HIS VOTE. HIS VOTE DOESN'T COUNT. WAS HE THE SECOND? HE WAS THE SECOND ON THE MOTION. MADAM CHAIR. I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT. BUT BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO THE STATE, IF IF THE BOARD IS NERVOUS, WE CAN CERTAINLY HAVE A REDO AND HAVE THE, THE ORIGINAL MOTION MAKER PRESENT THE MOTION AND HAVE SOMEONE ELSE SECOND IT. OKAY. I THOUGHT, YEAH, I THOUGHT WE JUST HAD TO HAVE A QUORUM IN THE ROOM IN ORDER FOR HIM TO PARTICIPATE. I THOUGHT HE COULD STILL VOTE, BUT THAT'S FINE IF WE WANT TO. I TEND TO AGREE, BUT IN AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION, SINCE THIS IS GOING TO THE STATE, LET'S, LET'S. OKAY, SO WE HAD A MOTION FOR MISS CARR MOTION TO APPROVE THE ANNUAL REPORT AND SUBMIT IT TO THE FLORIDA HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION. OKAY. DID ANYONE ELSE WANT TO MAKE THE SECOND ON THAT? I SECOND THAT, OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. HE SAID I OKAY. ANY OPPOSED? I'M HEARING NONE. I VOTE AYE. AND THAT MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU EVERYONE. AND THANK YOU FOR THAT. EXCELLENT REPORT, MISS CARTER. THAT WAS WONDERFUL. WITH THE PHOTOS. NEXT WE'LL MOVE ON TO OTHER BOARD BUSINESS WHICH IS THE INFORMATIONAL STAFF [OTHER BOARD BUSINESS] REPORT. DO YOU WANT TO GO OVER THAT ONE? YES. [00:35:06] I JUST WANT AND I KNOW YOU ALL RECEIVED A COPY OF THIS REPORT, BUT THERE ARE JUST CERTAIN HIGHLIGHTS I WANTED TO BRING OUT. IN THE INFORMATION REPORT. AGAIN, ALL NEW BOARD MEMBERS, ANYONE THAT WANTS TO MEET WITH ME WE HAVE AN ORIENTATION PACKAGE THAT WE PUT TOGETHER AND I CAN SIT WITH YOU ONE ON ONE AND WE CAN GO THROUGH THAT AND I THINK IT WOULD HELP YOU BECAUSE WE'RE DEALING WITH SO MANY DIFFERENT GRANTS AND SO MANY DIFFERENT RULES. YOU THAT MAY BE HELPFUL TO YOU. AS FAR AS THE CDBG PROGRAM BECAUSE IT TOOK US, WE HAVE WE WERE SUCCESSFUL IN MEETING OUR EXPENDITURE GOAL AND I WANT TO BRING THAT OUT. AS MANY OF YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS. OUR IT'S BEEN TWO YEARS FOR US TO TO MEET OUR GOAL. IT WASN'T OUR STAFF. IT WASN'T WELL, IT WASN'T UNDER MY LEADERSHIP. IT WAS PRIOR TO ME COMING THAT THE CITY, I MEAN, AND MANY OF YOU ALL KNOW YEARS AGO THE CITY GOT VETERANS MONEY. THEY HAD A LOT OF MONIES FROM HOUSES THAT WERE SOLD AND THE MONEY WAS SITTING IN THE CITY'S ACCOUNT AND WE HAD TO SPEND IT. SO WE SPENT TWO YEARS OF MONEY IN ONE YEAR AND WE MET OUR GOAL. ALSO WE SUBMITTED OUR ACTION PLAN, WHICH IS OUR GRANT FOR THIS UPCOMING YEAR IN OCTOBER, STARTING OCTOBER 1ST. HUD HAS 45 DAYS TO REVIEW IT. AND THEN THEY WILL ISSUE A GRANT AGREEMENT. SO WITH THAT, THAT'S THAT TAKES A WHILE. LAST YEAR IT WAS DELAYED BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT SHUT DOWN. AND THEN HUD HAS TO HAD TO GEAR BACK UP AND THEN THOSE GRANT AGREEMENTS GO TO TEXAS. AND SO IT TOOK A WHILE FOR US TO GET THE AGREEMENT, BUT WE ARE NOT ABLE TO START SPENDING OUR MONEY UNTIL WE GET THE AGREEMENT. THEN I WANT TO POINT OUT TO YOU AND I, I GAVE IT TO YOU IN AN ATTACHMENT FROM THE NATIONAL COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATION 21ST CENTURY ROAD TO HOUSING ACT. THAT WILL SHAPE OUR PROGRAM FOR THE FUTURE. WE MAY BE ABLE TO DO A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE, WE WERE, WE WERE DOING LAST YEAR, WHICH WAS A LOT OF PARK IMPROVEMENTS. BUT HUD IS SAYING WITH THE, WITH IT DID, BY THE WAY, IT DID GO INTO LAW ON JULY 11TH. IT WAS, IT WAS IT WAS NOT SIGNED, BUT IT WENT INTO LAW. SO WITH THAT, WE WILL HAVE TO START CHANGING THE WAY THAT WE SPEND OUR MONIES MORE TOWARD HOUSING. AND SO WHEN WE GET THAT DIRECTION FROM HUD, WE WILL SHARE THAT WITH YOU. BUT I WANTED TO START SHARING WITH YOU THAT THERE WILL BE SOME CHANGES WITH THE WAY THAT WE HAVE TO SPEND OUR MONEY BECAUSE OF THE 21ST CENTURY ROAD TO HOUSING ACT. SO THE PARKS PROJECTS WON'T BE ELIGIBLE ANYMORE. YES, THEY STILL WILL BE ELIGIBLE, BUT THEY'RE THEY'RE SAYING YOU'RE WE WANT YOU TO SPEND MONEY ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING. OKAY. JUST WHAT THEY'RE SAYING. OKAY. IF THERE ARE NEEDS IN HOUSING, THEN WE WANT YOU ALL TO PUT SOME MONEY INTO HOUSING. OKAY. AND SO WE, THE WAY THAT MOST PROGRAMS HAVE BEEN OPERATING IS BECAUSE WE HAVE SHIP FUNDS, THEN WE WERE JUST PUTTING MOST OF OUR MONIES UNDER SHIP. NOW WE'RE ACTUALLY MOVING SOME INTO HOME UNDER SINGLE FAMILY AND WE'RE NOW GOING TO HAVE TO EVENTUALLY MOVE SOME TO CDBG. SO WE NEED MORE APPLICATIONS FOR HOUSING TOO THOUGH, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE WHEN WE OPEN UP OUR APPLICATION PROCESS, WE'RE NOT GETTING AS MANY APPLICATIONS FOR THOSE TYPES OF HOUSING PROJECTS UNDER CDBG. RIGHT? WE AND BY THE WAY, WE'RE GOING TO OPEN AGAIN AND WE'RE TELLING PEOPLE WE'RE GOING TO OPEN AGAIN OCTOBER, OCTOBER 1ST, WE'RE GOING TO OPEN OUR WAITING LIST. WE HAVE IT DOWN TO ABOUT 40. AND AND SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THE ONES THAT VAL JUST SENT OUT 20 APPLICATIONS FRIDAY AND WE'RE GOING TO PROCESS THOSE AND THEN OCTOBER 1ST, WE'RE GOING TO OPEN IT UP [00:40:01] AND WE'RE GOING TO CAP IT AT 150. OKAY. SO THAT WE WON'T HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE WAITING SO MANY YEARS TO GET HELP. SO WE'LL SEE HOW THAT GOES. WE MAY GET BETTER RESPONSES BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ON THE LIST FOR THREE YEARS. YEAH. AND YOU CONTACT THEM AND THEY DON'T THEY DON'T RESPOND. AND WE TRY TO SEND IT IN BIGGER ENVELOPES. SO THEY WOULDN'T THINK IT WAS A BILL FROM THE CITY. YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S TRUE. YOU KNOW, AND THEN MAYBE THEY WOULD OPEN IT AND THEY THINK IT'S JUNK MAIL OR SOMETHING. AND WE AND I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, BUT WE DO A LOT TO HELP THEM ON THE DOCUMENTATION SIDE OF THAT PROCESS TOO, THOUGH, DON'T WE? BECAUSE I THINK YOU'VE SAID THAT PEOPLE STRUGGLE WITH THE DOCUMENTATION THAT IS NEEDED, BUT WE HELP THEM. OH, YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. YES. AS IF THEY BRING IN ANYTHING, THEN VAL GOES THROUGH IT AND SAYS, THIS IS WHAT YOU STILL NEED TO BRING IN. OKAY. AND PLEASE SCHEDULE AN APPOINTMENT WITH ME. AND SO YES, WE, WE TRY TO GET THEM TO THAT, BUT SOMETIMES PEOPLE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH EQUITY IN THEIR HOUSE. THEY HAVEN'T HAD IT LONG, YOU KNOW OR IF SOME PEOPLE HAVE LOANS ON THEIR HOUSE AND WE'RE NOT ABLE TO, IF THEY HAVE A SECOND LOAN ON THEIR HOUSE. SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT KEEPS THEM, YOU KNOW, FROM, AND THEN SOME PEOPLE ARE IN FORECLOSURE AND WE ARE NOT ABLE TO HELP THEM EITHER UNLESS THEY'RE ABLE TO PAY UP. SO. DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? I DO. TURN YOUR MIC ON. OH YEAH. I'M SORRY. I DO HAVE A QUESTION. I APOLOGIZE MY READING OF THE LAW WAS THAT THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE MONEY ALLOCATED TOWARDS NEW CONSTRUCTION. IS THAT CORRECT? YES, WE CAN DO THAT NOW. YES. WE WEREN'T ABLE TO DO THAT BEFORE ON THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT AND JUST PROCESS KIND OF QUESTION WHEN, WHEN DOES THAT DECISION ON HOW THE FUNDS ARE ALLOCATED, HOW LIKE FOR LIKE, IF YOU'RE GOING TO SHIFT TO NEW CONSTRUCTION, HOW DOES THAT DECISION, HOW DOES THAT PROCESS WORK? WE'RE GOING TO WAIT TILL WE GET DIRECTION FROM HUD. THEY TOLD US NOT TO DO ANYTHING UNTIL WE GET DIRECTION FROM THEM. SO WE'LL WAIT AND SEE WHAT THEY SAY AND THEN AT WHAT TIMETABLE AND THEN WHEN WE'LL NEED TO, BECAUSE THEN THEY'LL SET GOALS. BUT I THINK WE HAVE ONE YEAR AT LEAST TO GET READY. AND THEN WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO WRITE POLICIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT AS TO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. BUT IF WE, IF WE'RE NOT SPENDING MONEY TOWARD AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THEY WILL. IT TALKS ABOUT THEY WILL EVENTUALLY TAKE YOUR MONEY. YEAH. BUT YOU WOULD HAVE TO AMEND THE ACTION PLAN, RIGHT? FOR IF LIKE, IF WE WANTED TO ALLOW NEW CONSTRUCTION, WE WOULD HAVE TO AMEND THE ACTION PLAN TO HAVE THAT BE AN ELIGIBLE PROJECT TYPE. SO THEN IT WOULD COME BEFORE THE BOARD. YES. WE WOULD LIKE AMENDMENT TO THE ACTION PLAN. WE ARE DOING A NEW CONSOLIDATED PLAN THIS YEAR WITH THE COUNTY. AND THE CITIES THAT WE'RE IN THE HOME CONSORTIUM WITH WITH TITUSVILLE, COCOA, MELBOURNE AND THE COUNTY. SO I'M SURE WE'LL ALL OF THAT WILL BE LOOKED AT. AND THEN WE WILL HAVE TO DO A NEW ACTION PLAN AS WELL. YES. ALL OF THAT WILL BE COMING BEFORE THE, THE, THE ADVISORY BOARD. AS YOU CAN SEE ALSO ON OUR CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS WHICH WITH PARKS AND REC WITH PARKS AND FACILITIES. EXCUSE ME, MOST OF THEM ARE ALMOST COMPLETED. ONE IS AT 90 WITH LIBERTY PARK DUGOUTS LIBERTY PARK PHASE TWO AND PHASE THREE AND FOUR ARE AT 95%. AND THEN THE MULTI-PURPOSE COURT. AND IF YOU ALL HAVE TIME TO GO BY ANY OF THESE PARKS AND SEE THE WORK PLEASE DO. WE WERE ABLE TO PUT, AS I SAID, THE, THE, THE TENNIS COURT AND THE PICKLEBALL COURT AT KEN GREEN. NEXT YEAR THEY'RE ASKING US TO DO MORE WORK AT KEN GREEN AND AT VETERANS. SO BASED ON YOUR COMMENTS AND THERE WAS A COMMENT HERE WHICH WAS YOU'RE SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY AT LIBERTY. WHY, WHY NOT AT SOME OF THE OTHER PARKS? AND SO PARKS LOOKED AT VETERANS, ADDING VETERANS AND THEN GOING BACK TO KEN GREEN. AND ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE'RE GOING BACK TO KEN GREEN IS FOR CENSUS DATA REASONS. I, YOU KNOW, IN LOOKING AT IT, THEY'RE CLOSE TO THE 51%. AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE BEEN TO KEN GREEN, BUT IT USED TO BE VACANT ACROSS THE STREET. NOW THOSE HOMES ARE VERY EXPENSIVE HOMES. YEAH. [00:45:03] AND SO THE DATA IS GOING TO CHANGE. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE LOW TO MODERATE. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. THAT THE DATA IS GOING TO CHANGE. SO TIME IS TICKING ON KEN GREEN. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY, I DO APPRECIATE THE PARKS DEPARTMENT WHEN, WHEN THEY COME IN AND THE BOARD HAS COMMENTS ABOUT PROJECTS, THEY REALLY SEEM TO TAKE THAT INFORMATION TO HEART. AND I'VE NOTICED OVER THE YEARS THAT WHEN WE SAY THINGS, THE NEXT TIME THEY COME BACK, THEY HAVE PAID ATTENTION TO WHAT THEY HAVE SAID. AND THAT'S JUST NICE AS A BOARD MEMBER. I KNOW MANY, MANY YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS UP HERE, THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN WITH SOME OF THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS. SO IT'S NICE THAT WHEN WE SAY, OH, YOU'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK AT LIBERTY PARK, CAN YOU LOOK SOMEWHERE ELSE THAT THEY DO THAT AND THEY FOLLOW THROUGH WITH WITH, WITH WHAT WE'VE SAID. SO I APPRECIATE THAT FROM THEM. OKAY. AND THEN ON THE JUST TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE AND IT PROBABLY GIVES SOME CLARIFICATION ON THE SCHIP PROGRAM, I WANT TO THANK. COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON. I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S STILL ON THE PHONE. BUT OKAY, OKAY. HE WAS THE ONLY PUBLIC OFFICIAL TO ATTEND THE WE'RE REQUIRED TWICE A YEAR TO HAVE OUR PUBLIC OFFICIALS ATTEND A MEETING ON THE SCHIP PROGRAM. AND HE WAS THE ONLY ONE IN BREVARD COUNTY. NONE OF THE OTHER CITIES NOR THE COUNTY HAD HAD ANYONE ON THE TELEPHONE LINE. REALLY? YES. THANK YOU, MR. JOHNSON. SO HE'S KEEPING OUR MONEY COME COMING BECAUSE. AND I'M GRATEFUL FOR EACH OF YOU. SO THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU, MR. CARTER. ALL RIGHT. I WANT TO SAY, WITH THE SHIP ALLOCATIONS, YOU'LL SEE OUR NUMBERS WE WERE ABLE TO GET. AND I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT AMOUNT IT WAS I ADDED TO THE 2425 NUMBER BECAUSE WE WERE ABLE IF, IF THERE'S NO HURRICANES, THE FLORIDA HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION WILL COME BACK AND REALLOCATE FUNDS FROM THAT HURRICANE FUND. AND THEY GAVE THE CITY A LIKE $33,000 MORE. SO WE ADDED THAT AND WE WILL, WE WILL HAVE TO ENCUMBER THAT. AND THEN WE HAVE THOSE OTHER TWO YEARS. WELL, WE DON'T HAVE AND I KNOW KENNY WAS MISS COUNCILMAN JOHNSON WAS ASKING ABOUT WITH THE EL HAP HOW ARE WE GOING TO SPEND OUR MONIES WHEN WE HAVE SO MANY STRATEGIES? WE REALLY DO HAVE TWO POTS OF MONEY THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHERE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO PUT IN THOSE YEARS, WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO JUST DO ALL SINGLE FAMILY OR ARE WE GOING TO DO RENTAL. SO WE DO HAVE SOME ABILITY TO ADD ADD MONEY TO THOSE STRATEGIES THAT WE WE ACTUALLY THAT WAS APPROVED. SO THAT'S THAT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. WE WILL, LIKE I SAID, WE WILL BE DOING AN RFP. WE, WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT MUCH MONEY IN DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE UNDER THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT. SO WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT HELPING PEOPLE GET INTO HOMES AND THEY WILL BE ABLE TO GET DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE IF THEY QUALIFY. SO WE'RE GOING TO DO AN RFP FOR DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE FOR RENTAL AND POSSIBLY FORECLOSURE. WE'RE GOING TO SEE HOW FORECLOSURE WILL WORK. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH CATHOLIC CHARITIES. BECAUSE WE DID, WE TOOK THEM OUT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT. AND IF LOOK AT HOW WE'RE ABLE TO HELP PEOPLE WITH THEIR RENT AND THAT REALLY IS A SERIOUS PROBLEM. I, I'M, WHEN I LOOK AT THE NUMBERS THAT, THAT ARE SUBMITTED TO ME FOR APPROVAL TO REIMBURSE CATHOLIC CHARITIES, PEOPLE ARE PAYING 2000 2400 A MONTH, 2000 A MONTH. I THINK THE LOWEST THAT I SAW WAS 1900. AND THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY OUT OF THEIR INCOME FOR JUST FOR HOUSING. SO IF, IF, IF THEY'RE ABLE TO GET A MORTGAGE AND THE MORTGAGE IS GOING TO BE LOWER WE, WE CERTAINLY WANT TO HELP THEM AND, AND, AND THEN WHAT WE'RE, WHAT, WHAT I'M SEEING IS EVEN WITH THE ANNUAL REPORT WE'RE HAVING TO PUT IN THERE, HOW WE, HOW ARE WE HELPING? HOW'S THE CITY HELPING? [00:50:05] AND, AND SO IT HELPS WHEN WE'RE ABLE TO ACTUALLY WORK ON A STRATEGY, PUT MONEY TOWARD A STRATEGY AND THEN BE ABLE TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND IN THOSE REPORTS AS TO WHAT WE'RE DOING IN THOSE AREAS. I THINK THAT IS ALL I THAT ALL I HAVE, BUT THOSE ARE AREAS THAT I WANTED TO POINT OUT. AND WE DO GIVE YOU ALL A A UPDATE WHEN WE WHEN WE HAVE MEETINGS, SO YOU'LL KNOW WHAT WE'RE ACCOMPLISHING. EXCELLENT. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE REPORT? YEAH. I HAVE A QUESTION. GO AHEAD. THIS IS ABOUT THE FISCAL YEAR 2526 ALLOCATION. IT SAYS THAT 22 APPLICATIONS WERE MAILED WITH TWO APPLICATIONS BEING SUBMITTED TO THE CITY. IS THERE LIKE, I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER. THERE'S A, THERE'S A BIG GAP THERE, A BIG GAP. YEAH. AND, AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO GET BETTER WITH US OPENING UP THE LIST AND THEN NOT BEING ON THERE FOR THREE YEARS. AND SO IT, IT TAKES THAT, THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT TO, TO GET ONE PERSON APPROVED. AND WHEN I HAVE A APPLICATION THAT COMES TO ME AND I, AND WE CAN APPROVE IT, I'M LIKE, YES. BECAUSE IT'S BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS THAT THEY EITHER THEY DON'T WANT TO SHARE THE INFORMATION WITH US, OR WE GO IN AND WE SEE IN ANOTHER AREA, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO GIVE US THEIR BANK ACCOUNTS, RIGHT? AND THEY DON'T NECESSARILY GIVE US ALL THE INFORMATION. RIGHT. BUT IN GOING IN AND RESEARCHING AND SEEING, YOU KNOW, STUFF IN THE FILES, SOMETIMES WE SEE, OKAY, THIS PERSON DID NOT TELL ME ABOUT THIS OTHER ACCOUNT. AND THE ONLY REASON WHY WE WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THAT ACCOUNT IS IF THEY HAVE THE MONEY TO DO IT THEMSELVES, THEN THAT'S WHERE THEY NEED TO DO IT THEMSELVES. BUT IF THEY LEGITIMATELY DO NOT HAVE THE MONEY AND THEY ARE IN NEED, THEN THAT'S WHO WE NEED. WE'RE TRYING TO HELP. RIGHT. AND I THINK, DIDN'T WE HAVE A SITUATION A LITTLE WHILE AGO WHERE THE THE LADY HAD LIKE A BOYFRIEND LIVING WITH HER AND SHE WASN'T TRUTHFUL ABOUT IT. AND WHEN WE STARTED REVIEWING THE APPLICATION THAT WAS UNCOVERED AND IT WAS A WHOLE THING. SO, I MEAN, SOMETIMES THEY WAIT ON THE LIST A LONG TIME, BUT THEN THEY'RE NOT FORTHCOMING WITH WITH ALL THE RIGHT INFORMATION AS WELL. SO VAL DOES AN EXCELLENT JOB OF GOING THROUGH THE APPLICATIONS. AND THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING ABOUT THE DOCUMENTATION, BECAUSE IT IS QUITE A BIT OF DOCUMENTATION THAT THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE AND PROOF OF THE INCOME AND THE BANK STATEMENTS, BUT THEY THEY DO. A STAFF DOES A REALLY GOOD JOB OF HELPING THEM THROUGH THAT PROCESS BECAUSE IT IS TEDIOUS FOR SOME PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE ELDERLY OR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THEIR SITUATION MAY BE, IT, IT COULD BE OVERWHELMING TO TRY TO GET ALL THAT INFORMATION TO US. SO THEY'RE VERY HELPFUL TO TRY TO HELP THEM OUT. AND ALSO THE TITLE SEARCH. YEAH. REVEALS AND WE'RE CHANGING. SO WITH THE NEW OPENING, WE VAL SENT OUT ALL OF THE NEW QUESTIONS THAT WE INITIALLY ASKED PEOPLE BECAUSE WE HAD A GENTLEMAN THAT HAD TAKEN OUT A AYE HILO LOAN ON THIS HOUSE. JUST A FEW MONTHS BEFORE HE APPLIED WITH US. AND IT SHOWED UP ON A TITLE SEARCH. WELL, HE SAID, WELL, YOU DIDN'T ASK THAT QUESTION. ON OUR ON THAT INITIAL SCREENING. AND SO WE ARE NOW CHANGING THAT AND ASKING THAT ON THE INITIAL SCREENING. BUT HE, I'M SORRY, HE HAD THE MONEY FROM THE LOAN. RIGHT. TO FIX UP HIS HOUSE. YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES, SIR. THE AND I THINK MAYBE MORE IN THE APPLICATION. HOW DO WE ADVERTISE FOR THAT. HOW DO WE ADVERTISE. AND WE PUT IT ON OUR WEBSITE. WE ALSO TOLD A LOT OF PEOPLE TO CALL BACK OCTOBER 1ST. AND WE'LL PROBABLY USE OUR PUBLIC RELATIONS PERSON. YEAH. WHO DOES A LOT OF THE SOCIAL MEDIA AND ALL OF THAT. WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL MOST LIKELY USE THEM. AND I THINK YOU ANSWERED THE OTHER QUESTION FOR ME WHEN YOU SAID SCREENING. THERE'S A SCREENING FORM. SO HOPEFULLY WE DO FIGURE OUT QUICKLY IN THAT 300 THAT THEY'RE LEGITIMATE POTENTIAL APPLICANTS, NOT SOMEBODY THAT'S TRYING TO. YES, BUT BUT LIKE MR. PRICE ASKED. HE IS CORRECT. IT'S A LOT OF WORK TO GET TO TO THEM BECAUSE LIKE, YES, WE'RE DOWN. [00:55:01] IT WAS ONLY TWO. YEAH. YEAH. AND IT'S NOT A LOT OF APPLICATIONS. SO SHE JUST SENT OUT 20 MORE. AND WE'LL SEE HOW MANY WE CAN GET FROM THAT. AND LAST QUESTION THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT THAT'S DONE FROM OUR SIDE. YES. WE WE TURN WE GOT THE AGREEMENTS. WE TURNED IT OVER TO UTILITIES. NOW UTILITIES ADMINISTERS THE GRANT. WELL, I WILL TELL YOU THAT TRAIN MECHANICS THAT THEY'RE USING IS BACKED UP. I MEAN, THEY HAVE A LOT, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK IN IN PALM BAY, A LOT OF SEPTIC TANKS TO GET CONVERTED. YEAH. SEWER CONNECTIONS. AND THAT WAS, I GUESS THAT WAS MY QUESTION. IS IT STILL IS IT STILL, IS IT GOING TO RENEW OR IS THERE GOING TO BE ANOTHER FUNDING SOURCE THAT IT IS AN ENDED GRANT? IS THERE ANOTHER FUNDING SOURCE BEING DISCUSSED. YES. UTILITIES HAS SOME OTHER OPTIONS BUT IT WON'T BE COMING FROM US. YEAH. ARPA IS THIS IS IT FOR ARPA. SO. BUT THERE'S SOME OTHER OPTIONS FOR THEM AVAILABLE. AND I'VE TALKED TO THEIR GRANT MANAGER ABOUT SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR THOSE UTILITIES HAS APPLIED FOR GRANTS. YEAH. SO THEY CAN GO WITH THEM. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I JUST WANT TO RECOMMEND FOR OUR NEW BOARD MEMBERS TO TAKE STAFF UP ON THE ORIENTATION, BECAUSE THEY DO A GREAT JOB. THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT COMES WITH THIS BOARD. IT'S LIKE DRINKING OUT OF A FIRE HOSE. SO TAKE TAKE MISS CARTER UP ON THAT. AND ALSO THAT IS THAT, THAT TRAINING THAT I THINK IT'S TECHNICALLY FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS, BUT IS IT FLORIDA HOUSING FINANCE THAT DOES THAT ONLINE? YES. THAT TRAINING IS EXCELLENT AS WELL. I THINK IT'S RECORDED I THINK. RIGHT. IT'S INTENDED FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS, BUT BUT BOARD MEMBERS CAN TAKE IT AS WELL. THAT'S GREAT. IF YOU HAVE THE TIME FOR THAT, YOU CAN DO IT AT YOUR LEISURE. THAT'S VERY INFORMATIVE AND KIND OF GOES OVER ALL THE PROGRAMS. SO THAT'S GOOD IF YOU HAVE TIME FOR THAT TOO. ALL RIGHT. WELL, IF WE HAVE NOTHING ELSE, THEN WE WILL ADJOURN AT 600. AND CONGRATULATIONS TO MR. JOHNSON. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT AS WELL ON HIS VICTORY LAST NIGHT. YES, I APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO ADJOURN AT 6:58 P.M.. THANK YOU EVERYONE. THANK YOU. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.