YEAH IT WAS. IT IS NOW 1800 HOURS. I'M GOING TO CALL THIS REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. [CALL TO ORDER:] [00:00:09] 2026-23 TO ORDER. THE INVOCATION WILL BE LED BY DOCTOR BRIAN ROBINSON, AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WILL BE LED BY MIKE COUNCILMAN, MIKE HAMMER. ALL RISE. THANK YOU FATHER. LET'S PRAY. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME BEFORE YOU IN THE NAME OF JESUS. WE THANK YOU, LORD, FOR YOUR PROVISION. WE THANK YOU, GOD FOR YOUR BLESSING UPON ALL OF OUR LIVES. WE THANK YOU, LORD, THAT OUR NAMES, OUR LIVES IS A TALE THAT'S ALREADY TOLD AND IT'S ALL WRITTEN IN YOUR BOOK. WE THANK YOU THAT WE HAVE PURPOSE AND WE HAVE A PROMISE FROM YOU. WE PRAY TONIGHT AS WE DISCUSS CITY MATTERS. WE PRAY THAT YOU'LL GIVE OUR COUNSEL GUIDANCE. PRAY THAT YOU'LL GIVE THEM WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING. THANK YOU, LORD GOD, FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS. WE THANK YOU, GOD FOR STAFF. WE THANK YOU GOD FOR OUR AMAZING RESIDENTS THAT ARE HERE TONIGHT. WE THANK YOU FOR THE WISDOM AND THE COLLABORATIVE SPIRIT THAT WILL BE ABLE. OH GOD, TO FIND A YES, FIND WISDOM, FIND INSIGHT, FIND DIRECTION FROM YOU TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE WELL-BEING OF THIS GREAT CITY. WE THANK YOU. WE PUT ALL THINGS INTO YOUR HANDS. IN JESUS MIGHTY NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HURRAH! MADAM JONES MAYOR MEDINA. PRESENT. DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE. PRESENT. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. PRESENT. COUNCILMAN. HAMMER. PRESENT. COUNCILMAN. LANGEVIN. PRESENT. MR. MORTON, PRESENT. MISS SMITH, PRESENT. BEFORE WE GET STARTED, I WANT TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THE VISION SCREENS AND LOOK AT THOSE THAT DECORUM STATEMENT. AT THIS TIME, WE ARE UNDER AGENDA REVISIONS. [AGENDA REVISIONS:] MR. MORTON. I HAVE TWO AGENDA REVISIONS TONIGHT. THERE'S A PRESENTATION OF A CHECK TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY FROM THE FLORIDA JOB GROWTH GRANT FUND. IT HAS BEEN ADDED AS ITEM NUMBER TWO UNDER PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS. THERE'S A DISCUSSION OF THE FLOCK. AUTOMATED LICENSE PLATE READER CAMERA SYSTEM HAS BEEN ADDED AS ITEM TWO UNDER NEW BUSINESS BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. AND SO RIGHT NOW, MY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, I'M GOING TO ASK TERESE TO GO AHEAD AND READ OUR POLICY. MADAM JONES. YES, MAYOR. AS FAR AS PLACING AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA BY A COUNCIL MEMBER, A COUNCIL MEMBER WHO WISHES TO PLACE AN ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA A MEETING AGENDA MUST FIRST SEEK CONSENSUS OF THE COUNCIL DURING A REGULAR MEETING. IF CONSENSUS IS OBTAINED, THE REQUESTED ITEM SHALL BE PLACED ON THE REQUESTED FUTURE AGENDA, AND THE COUNCIL MEMBERS NAME SHALL BE PLACED AT THE END OF THE ITEM. THANK YOU MA'AM. AND SO, GENTLEMEN, I JUST WANT TO GO AND SAY THAT I REMEMBER YOU BROUGHT IT UP. BUT THIS DISCUSSION WAS I DIDN'T SEE THE CONSENSUS THAT BEING AS IT IS RIGHT NOW, I DO RECALL AND I DID WITNESS WHEN YOU BROUGHT IT UP, COUNCILMAN OR DEPUTY MAYOR. JAFFE SAID, YEAH, I LIKE TO LOOK AT THAT. BUT NO OTHER MEMBER ON THE DAIS SAID ANYTHING ABOUT GIVING A THUMBS UP OR CONSENSUS FOR THAT. SO, GENTLEMEN, I SAY THAT BECAUSE WE RECENTLY CHANGED THE POLICY. NOW, IF YOU IF YOU WANT TO GO DOWN THE PATH OF DOING THIS ALL OVER AGAIN, THAT'S FINE WITH ME. BUT IF YOU WANT TO REVERT BACK TO OUR POLICY, THE OLD POLICY, I'M WELL WITH THAT AS WELL. BUT ALL I'M SAYING IS THIS IS A POINT OF ORDER. AND, AND IF WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO DO THINGS, AGREE TO SOMETHING AND THEN NOT. AND THEN DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. THEN I THINK IT'S WORTH A DISCUSSION FOR THAT. SO I KNOW I'VE GOT. OKAY. COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON. YES. MAYOR. SO IT WAS DISCUSSED. NOBODY OPPOSED THE DISCUSSION. NOBODY OPPOSED BRINGING THE DISCUSSION UP FOR FLOCK CAMERAS. SO MY RECOLLECTION OF EVERYTHING WAS IT WAS TO BE DISCUSSED. I HAD CONSENSUS BECAUSE NOBODY FOUGHT AGAINST IT. SO I'M READY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT AS IT IS TODAY. WE'VE GOTTEN FEEDBACK FROM OUR STATE LEVEL OUR BREVARD COUNTY SHERIFF AND I'M READY TO MOVE ON TODAY. WELL, DISCUSSION AND ACTION ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. SO I GET THAT. BUT I'M JUST SAYING WHEN WE HAVE CONSENSUS, I HAVE CLEARLY STATED, OKAY, YOU HAVE CONSENSUS, MOVE FORWARD THAT THAT WAS NOT EXECUTED HERE. SO I'M GOOD WITH EITHER WAY. DEPUTY MAYOR, YOU WERE WANTING TO WEIGH IN AS WELL. I DO RECALL THE MEETING. I, THOUGHT THERE WAS CONSENSUS TO BRING IT BACK AT A FUTURE MEETING. I'LL JUST SAY, IF WE DECIDE THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO ADD IT AS A NEW BUSINESS ITEM. I HAVE A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE, FOLKS, WANTING TO SPEAK ON THIS NEW BUSINESS ITEM, THAT THEY WOULD NEED TO SUBMIT SPEAKER CARDS TOWARDS PUBLIC COMMENT, [00:05:06] AND I HAVE EVERY INTENTION OF SPEAKING ABOUT THIS AND MAKE AN ACTION ON IT DURING COUNCIL REPORTS. SO JUST KNOWING THAT I'LL YIELD MY COMMENTS. WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT. LET ME GET AND YOU GOT TO UNDERSTAND, YOU BROUGHT IN THIS NEW POLICY AS WELL, RIGHT? AND SO I'M JUST TRYING TO POLICE WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO POLICE. YOU BOUGHT THIS. WE ALL AGREED ON IT. I THINK THE ONLY DISSENTING VOTE ON THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN THAT VOTED NO ON THAT. HE HE FELT THAT BRINGING UP AN AGENDA ITEM. SO I, I PRETTY MUCH WOULD KNOW WHAT WHAT HE STOOD ON. BUT 4 TO 1, WE ALL AGREED ON YOUR YOUR NEW POLICY AND I DON'T THINK IT'S BEING FOLLOWED. WE'VE ALWAYS SAID, OKAY, YOU GOT CONSENSUS. AND THAT'S BEEN A CLEAR COMMITMENT TO THAT. NOW, BE THAT AS IT MAY, IT IS WHAT IT IS, WHERE WE ARE TODAY. BUT MY QUESTION WOULD BE, HOW ARE WE MOVING FORWARD AT THIS POINT? ARE WE GOING TO GO BACK TO THE OLD POLICY, OR ARE WE GOING TO CONTINUE WITH THE NEW POLICY AND DO COME INTO A REVISION OF THAT POLICY SO THAT WE'RE REALLY CLEAR ON THOSE THINGS? AND I'LL I'LL TEE IT OFF TO YOU. COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON. SO, QUICK QUESTION FOR EITHER THE CITY ATTORNEY OR CITY CLERK, IS THERE ANYTHING IN OUR POLICIES ON IF A VOTE IS CALLED AND NOBODY SAYS ANYTHING THAT THAT IS INTERPRETED AS A YAY VOTE NOW. NOW, AS YOU WERE, THERE IS A POLICY. AND I KNOW THAT FIRSTHAND, BUT IT DOESN'T IT DOESN'T INCLUDE. AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. WE REVISE IT. IT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE CONSENSUS VOTE. SO IF WE'RE VOTING ON AN ITEM THAT'S ON THE AGENDA AND A AND A SILENT VOTE IS CONSIDERED A YAY VOTE, THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN TRYING TO GET A CONSENSUS. AGAIN, IF YOU WANT TO MOVE DOWN THAT PATH, I'M SAYING WE SHOULD REVISE IT TO SAY THE SAME THING AS VOTING. BUT CONSENSUS HAS ALWAYS BEEN HANDLED DIFFERENTLY, AND THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. WE COULD AGREE THAT THIS THIS IS A ONE ODD THING, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THIS. THIS IS A CALL TO ORDER. WE IN MY OPINION, WE DIDN'T DO WE DIDN'T FOLLOW ORDER. COUNCILMAN HAMMER. IS THIS EVEN SOMETHING THAT WE VOTE ON, OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT'S A CONSENSUS THAT WE GIVE THE CITY MANAGER TO MOVE FORWARD ON? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. WELL, WE'LL ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY AS FAR AS THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN. YOU MEAN ON THE AGENDA? OKAY. MADAM ATTORNEY, THE AGENDA ONLY SAYS DISCUSSION, SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU'RE SEEKING TO DO. I'M SAYING, DEPENDING UPON WHAT YOU'RE SEEKING TO DO IS WHETHER IT'S SOMETHING. MR. MORTON, YOU CAN JUST GIVE DIRECTION TO MR. MORTON OR WHETHER YOU WOULD HAVE TO TAKE A VOTE. I DON'T BY SAYING DISCUSSION. I'M NOT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING. I THINK PART OF THIS DISCUSSION IS GOING TO BE SEEING WHAT THE CONTRACT ALLOWS. SO I THINK A LOT OF THIS IS, ISN'T EVEN GOING TO BE A VOTE. IT'S GOING TO BE A CONSENSUS THAT WE GIVE THE CITY MANAGER PERMISSION TO DO SOMETHING. SO I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO VOTE ON OR IF IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN GIVE CONSENSUS FOR, IS WHAT I'M ASKING. COPY THAT. AS FAR AS LOOKING AT THE CONTRACT AND MAYBE COMING BACK FORTH WITH RECOMMENDATIONS OR LETTING YOU ALL KNOW WHAT OUR POSSIBLE IMPLICATIONS MAY BE FOR TAKING CERTAIN ACTIONS ON THE CONTRACT, THAT WOULD BE CONSENSUS, BECAUSE THE AGENDA ITEM WOULD BE COMING BACK WITH SOMETHING RELATED TO THE CONTRACT. SO YES. THANK YOU. SO AGAIN, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON HOW CAN I PUT THIS? I'M WILLING TO GO EITHER WAY. RIGHT. I REALLY AM, BUT I'M TASKED TO KEEP ORDER ON THE DAIS AND POLICE EACH OTHER. RIGHT? TO INCLUDE MYSELF, I NEED YOU TO UNDERSTAND WHERE I'M COMING FROM. AND THE INTENT MIGHT HAVE BEEN THERE, BUT IT WASN'T GIVEN. AND THAT THAT'S THAT'S WHERE I'M AT. SO I'LL I'LL PULL COUNCIL. I'M GOOD TO DISCUSS IT EITHER WAY. YEAH. YEAH, I HAD A QUESTION FOR THE CITY CLERK. SO THE CITY CLERK. MADAM CLERK, YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE WELL AWARE OF OUR POLICIES, YOU KNOW, NOT TO PLACE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA UNLESS AND I KNOW YOU FOLKS GO BACK AND REVIEW THE MEETING AND, YOU KNOW, SCRIBE IT AND CHECK FOR YOU TO CREATE THE MEETING MINUTES. WHAT WAS YOU PUT YOU PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA. DID YOU BELIEVE THERE WAS CONSENSUS THERE TO PLACE IT ON THE AGENDA? WHEN I WENT BACK AND REVIEWED THE MEETING THERE, YOU WERE THE ONLY INDIVIDUAL THAT SPOKE BESIDES COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. THERE WAS NO OTHER I MEAN, IT LASTED FOR MAYBE 60S THE CONVERSATION AND THEN YOU MOVED ON TO ANOTHER TOPIC. SO NOBODY ELSE SAID ANYTHING. ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMAN, WHERE DO YOU WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO? I'M. I'M JUST GOING RIGHT OUT. ARE WE GOING TO FOLLOW THE POLICY OR ARE WE GOING TO MAKE AN EXCEPTION THIS TIME AND HONE IN ON THE REVISION? I THINK THAT'S THAT'S OUR OPTION RIGHT HERE. YEAH. NO, I, I THINK IT WAS PUT ON THE AGENDA AND I THINK THERE'S PEOPLE HERE TO SPEAK ON IT TONIGHT. [00:10:03] SO, YOU KNOW, I, I APPRECIATE BOTH SIDES ARGUMENT AND THERE'S A LITTLE GRAY AREA. SO I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING IT UP AS WELL MAYOR. BUT ULTIMATELY, I DO THINK WE NEED TO JUST ADDRESS THE ISSUE SINCE IT WAS PUT ON THE AGENDA. OKAY. COUNCILMAN HAMMOND. I AGREE, WE SHOULD WE SHOULD DISCUSS IT TONIGHT. ALSO, I MEAN, UNRELATED TO THAT, WE PROBABLY NEED TO PUT SOMETHING IN THERE. SHOULD SOMETHING BE THE, THE, THE MAIN DISCUSSION OF PRETTY MUCH THE WHOLE UNITED STATES SHOULD BE SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT IMMEDIATELY INSTEAD OF WAITING THREE WEEKS TO DO IT. SO, OKAY, MY, MY QUESTION STILL STANDS AND I'LL START WITH COUNCILMAN, SHOULD WE GO BACK AND MAKE A REVISION TO HONE IN ON ON THE INTENT? OH FOR THAT. YOU KNOW, I WAS A NO VOTE IN THE BEGINNING. AND MY ARGUMENT WAS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED TONIGHT. NOW, IT JUST SO HAPPENED THAT WE HAD KIND OF DISCUSSED IT A LITTLE BIT BEFORE. BUT IMAGINE, HAD WE NOT DISCUSSED FLOCK CAMERAS AT ALL BEFORE AND SOMETHING LIKE THIS QUICKLY CAME. MY WHOLE ARGUMENT IN THE PAST WAS WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO ADDRESS SOMETHING QUICKLY AND NOT WAIT THREE WEEKS. SO I MEAN, MY REVISION, IF I PUT A RECOMMENDATION IN, WOULD JUST BE LIKE, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO AT LEAST ADD SOMETHING FOR DISCUSSION AS A COUNCILMAN. MOST CITIES DO THAT. I MEAN, WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF ONE OF THE STRICTEST CITIES ABOUT WHAT WE PUT ON THE AGENDA. AND WE CAN JUST KEEP IT THE SAME WAY FOR ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS. OKAY. COUNCILMAN HAMMOND. I'M, I'M, I'M OKAY WITH THAT. OKAY. I'M FOR THAT. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, YOU'RE GOOD MOVING FORWARD, BUT REVISING IT AS WELL. I'M. I'M OPEN TO REVISING IT. OKAY. AND, DEPUTY MAYOR. I'M AN AGREEMENT WITH COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN. OKAY. SO TERESE. IS THAT ENOUGH FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD? YES, SIR. OKAY. ALRIGHT, MADAM SMITH. REVISIONS. NO, SIR. OKAY. ANY REVISIONS? COUNCIL. YES, MAYOR. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE DISCUSSION OF FLOCK RIGHT AFTER PUBLIC COMMENTS. AFTER PUBLIC COMMENTS OR BEFORE. OKAY. OKAY, I NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED. SECOND. SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. SECONDED BY HAMMER. COUNCILMAN HAMMER. ALL IN FAVOR? SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NAY. PASSES 4 TO 1. WE'RE NOW ON PROCLAMATIONS. [PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS:] SO I'M GOING TO HAVE MISS LISA HICKMAN. ARE YOU HERE, MA'AM? OH, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. COME ON UP. WHO ELSE IS GOING TO BE WITH YOU? YOU JUST CAME BY YOURSELF. MY HUSBAND. OH, AND WE HAVE TO. OH. COME ON. TWO. ONE. ONE. SO I'M HERE IN PLACE. DESIREE. HI, DESIREE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. GREAT TO MEET YOU. SO WE'RE CELEBRATING SEPTEMBER 2026 IS ACTUALLY NATIONAL SUICIDE PREVENTION MONTH. IT IS HEREBY PROCLAIMED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY. WHEREAS SEPTEMBER IS DESIGNATED AS A NATIONAL SUICIDE PREVENTION MONTH AS RECOGNIZED BY THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF MENTAL ILLNESS. WHEREAS, MANY LOCAL, STATE AND NATIONAL HEALTH OFFICIALS AND COMMUNITY LEADERS UNDERSTAND THAT MENTAL ILLNESS IS A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE OF CONCERN, PARTICULARLY AMONG OUR YOUTH. WHEREAS WE REALIZE THAT MORE OPEN AND HONEST DISCUSSION ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH IS REQUIRED TO ADDRESS MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES. WHEREAS, ONE MAJOR HURDLE TO REMOVE THE STIGMA ATTACHED TO MENTAL HEALTH TREATMENT AND DISCUSSION. AND WHEREAS INDIVIDUALS, BUSINESSES, ORGANIZATIONS, PUBLIC OFFICIALS AND MANY OTHERS RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF EMOTIONAL HEALTH. NOW, THEREFORE, I ROB MEDINA, MAYOR OF THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH. GO AHEAD. YOU GUYS CAN SMILE. BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY OF SAID OFFICE, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM SEPTEMBER 2026 AS NATIONAL SUICIDE PREVENTION MONTH IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND WILL ENCOURAGE A POSITIVE EFFORT TO INSPIRE THOSE WITH MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES TO SEEK THE HELP OF A FAMILY MEMBER, OF A FRIEND, OF A COLLEAGUE OR A LICENSED MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONAL TO ASSIST THEM IN THE TIMES OF NEED. THE CITY OF PALM BAY SUPPORTS EFFORTS ON THE SPACE COAST TO PROVIDE EDUCATION AND RESOURCES FOR MENTAL HEALTH PROBLEMS. IN WITNESS WHEREOF I SET MY HAND AND CAUSED THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY. THIS THIRD DAY OF SEPTEMBER 2026. CONGRATULATIONS, MA'AM. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO. THANK YOU FOR OUR MENTAL HEALTH. [00:15:07] THANK YOU MAYOR, MEDINA AND COUNCIL. WE APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I'M VERY PROUD. THIS IS MY THIRD YEAR HERE ACCEPTING THIS PROCLAMATION FROM PALM BAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND BREVARD COUNTY IS ONE OF THE ONLY COUNTIES IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA THAT ALL OF THE MUNICIPALITIES AND GOVERNING BOARDS PASS PROCLAMATIONS OR RESOLUTIONS FOR MENTAL HEALTH. SO WE DO APPRECIATE THAT AS WELL. THANK YOU. ONE ON THE SPACE COAST. THE SUICIDE NUMBERS HIT A LITTLE BIT HARDER BECAUSE BREVARD HAS ONE OF THE HIGHER SUICIDE RATES IN FLORIDA. MORE THAN 17 PEOPLE ANNUALLY, EVERY 100,000 PEOPLE COMMIT SUICIDE. SO IN 2024, OUR NUMBER WAS 138 IN BREVARD COUNTY. SO 138 PEOPLE THAT COULD BE OUR BROTHER, SISTER, PARENT. IT'S VERY EYE OPENING. WE DON'T KNOW WHY THE NUMBER IS HIGHER HERE IN BREVARD, BUT IT'S A SITUATION. THE SPACE COAST HEALTH FOUNDATION AND OUR PARTNERS ARE COMMITTED TO REVERSING. SO SOMETIMES WE ASK, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN WE DO AS AN INDIVIDUAL? WELL, IF THERE'S ONE THING WE CAN DO INDIVIDUALLY, MAYBE IT'S JUST BEING THERE FOR SOMEONE WHO VISIBLY IS IN DISTRESS, SUCH AS THE PROCLAMATION HAS READ. I'D ALSO LIKE TO TELL YOU A LITTLE STORY. IN 2000, A YOUNG MAN NAMED KEVIN HINES JUMPED OFF THE GOLDEN STATE, THE GOLDEN GATE BRIDGE IN SAN FRANCISCO. HE SOMEHOW SURVIVED AND IS NOW A LEADING ADVOCATE FOR SUICIDE PREVENTION AND MENTAL HEALTH. PRIOR TO JUMPING, KEVIN SAID HE WAS WALKING ON THE BRIDGE, SOBBING AND CLEARLY IN POOR EMOTIONAL STATE. NO ONE ASKED HIM IF ANYTHING WAS WRONG. KEVIN SAID IF SOMEONE WOULD HAVE STOPPED HIM AND ASKED IF HE WAS OKAY, HE PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE JUMPED. SO LET'S TAKE A LESSON FROM THAT AND ALWAYS BE THE PERSON WHO ASKS, IS EVERYTHING OKAY? IT'S LIKELY TO MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE IN SOMEONE'S LIFE. JUST THOSE FEW LITTLE WORDS. SO AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THE SUPPORT. THANK YOU EVERYONE. AND THAT'S WHY THE CITY OF PALM BAY IS THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH. IT'S IN. MENTAL HEALTH IS TRULY AN ISSUE. MANY OF THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT SERVE US ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS, WHETHER IT BE PUBLIC SAFETY OR EVEN THOSE THAT ARE VETERANS OF OUR UNITED STATES MILITARY MANY OF US SUFFER THROUGH MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS OURSELVES. AND SO I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT WE ARE AND WORKING TOWARDS REMOVING THAT STIGMA BECAUSE IT IS A STIGMA, JUST LIKE YOUR PHYSICAL HEALTH. WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF OUR MENTAL HEALTH. THANK YOU. COUNCIL. READY? ONE. TWO. THREE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. TAKE CARE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. SO AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO TEE IT OFF TO MR. MORTON. STAND BY. HE NEEDS A MINUTE. I LOVE YOU. I KNOW THAT. I KNOW THAT. THAT'S NOT MY FAULT. I KNOW THAT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO THE FLORIDA JOB GROWTH GRANT FUND IS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM DESIGNED TO PROMOTE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE AND WORKFORCE TRAINING ACROSS THE STATE. COUNCIL HAS HAD SEVERAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PRIORITIES. ONE OF THOSE IS FOR THE AREA THE LAST TIME. I WILL CALL IT THE COMPOUND KNOWN AS THE PHOENIX BUSINESS PARK. THAT WAS A PRIORITY FOR EXAMINING REDEVELOPMENT. NOW, PHOENIX IS A PORTMANTEAU OF WORDS THAT WE PUT TOGETHER TO UNDERSTAND THAT PEOPLE WANT TO SEE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, BUT THEY WANT IT. THEY ALSO WANT TO SEE THE PRESERVATION OF NATURE AND NATURAL ASSETS AND RESOURCES, QUALITY OF LIFE IN THE AREA. SO KEEPING ALL THOSE THINGS IN MIND BY COUNCIL'S LEADERSHIP, WE APPLIED FOR THIS JOBS GROWTH GRANT JUST ABOUT ONE YEAR AGO IN THE AMOUNT OF $3.5 [00:20:02] MILLION TO BEGIN THE FIRST TWO INFRASTRUCTURE EXTENSIONS OF BOTH WATER AND SEWER IN PARTNERSHIP AND SUPPORTED BY A MARINE DEFENSE CONTRACTOR WHO WORKS WITH THE MILITARY TO POTENTIALLY HAVE A WORKFORCE MANUFACTURING FACILITY WITH LIVING WAGE JOBS THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, SITE AND BEGIN TO GROW ON THAT VISION FROM THE STUDY THAT WAS PUBLISHED ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO AND SO LATE ON A SATURDAY AS APPARENTLY THESE THINGS HAPPEN FOR THE GOVERNOR'S SECURITY THIS PAST WEEKEND. SATURDAY AFTERNOON WE GOT A CALL AND ASKED TO BE IN JACKSONVILLE AT A LOCAL STATE COLLEGE FOR THE PRESENTATION OF THE CHECK. SO I JUST WANTED TO SORT OF GIVE THE BACKGROUND AND THANK AND CONGRATULATE COUNCIL FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP. AND I KNOW ALL OF YOU WORKED EXTRAORDINARILY HARD ON THIS THROUGH YOUR CHANNELS, TO YOUR REPRESENTATIVES AND PROVIDING DIRECTION AND LEADERSHIP TO STAFF. AND WITH THAT, MAYOR, I THINK YOU HAD SOME WORDS. AND THEN WE WERE GOING TO SHARE. WE WERE AT THE SPACE SYMPOSIUM AND BUSINESS EXPOSITION ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO, AND WE PLAYED THE SHORTENED JOB RECRUITMENT PALM BAY VIDEO. WE WERE GOING TO PLAY THAT TONIGHT SO EVERYONE COULD KIND OF GET A SENSE OF, OF WHAT OUR PALM BAY IS HEADED AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR FOR THE COMPOUND, THE PHOENIX PARK. NOW CARRY ON. MY WORDS ARE VERY SHORT AND SWEET. WE GAVE STAFF DIRECTION WITH THE PLIGHT OF THE COMPOUND THAT HAS PLIGHTED THIS, CITY FOR DECADES. AND AND OUR STAFF. I'M REALLY PROUD OF THEM. YES. WE MAKE CALLS ON ON BEHALF AND WORK ON TRYING TO GET THOSE FUNDS. ABSOLUTELY. BUT STAFF SHOULD BE COMMENDED ON THEIR HARD WORK REGARDING THIS. WE GAVE THEM DIRECTION. WE GOT TO DO SOMETHING WITH THE COMPOUND. AND THIS IS JUST A SMALL LITTLE BITE OF THAT BIG ELEPHANT THAT WE'RE TAKING ON. SO WITH THAT CARRY ON, SIR. SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND SHOW THE VIDEO. AND I ASSUME WE HAVE THE CHECK HERE TO SHARE. YEAH, WE COULD ALL GO DOWNSTAIRS AND AND DID YOU WANT TO PLAY THE VIDEO FIRST OR GO DOWN? OKAY, OKAY. I WANT TO THANK THE GREATER PALM BAY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE FOR HOSTING ANOTHER GREAT SPACE COAST SYMPOSIUM. I'M MAYOR ROB MEDINA, AND I'M PROUD TO SAY PALM BAY IS OPEN FOR BUSINESS HERE IN THE LARGEST CITY IN BREVARD COUNTY. WE JUST DON'T HAVE SPACE. WE HAVE SPACE FOR SPACE, WHETHER YOU'RE LAUNCHING AN AEROSPACE, ADVANCED MANUFACTURING IT OR CLEAN ENERGY, PALM BAY IS WHERE INNOVATION TAKES OFF. WE OFFER TARGETED TAX INCENTIVES, PERMIT FEE REDUCTIONS AND FAST TRACK APPROVALS TO HELP YOU MOVE FROM VISION TO REALITY QUICKLY AND COST EFFECTIVELY. WITH THOUSANDS OF ACRES AVAILABLE FOR COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT, WE'RE READY TO SUPPORT PROJECTS OF ALL SIZES, FROM START UPS TO MAJOR EXPANSIONS. WE'RE BUILDING OPPORTUNITY. WE'RE CREATING JOBS AND WE'RE WELCOMING BOLD IDEAS. JOIN US IN PALM BAY, WHERE PROGRESS TAKES ROOT AND POSSIBILITY TAKES OFF. MAY GOD BLESS YOU. MAY GOD KEEP YOU. AND MAY GOD CONTINUE TO BLESS PALM BAY. HURRAH! I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT I FEEL LIKE GOING TO PT AND RUN A MILE. I JUST GOT ENCOURAGED. SO, GENTLEMEN THREE THREE OF 3/5 OF THIS COUNCIL WENT TO CECIL FIELD OR WHAT WAS FORMERLY KNOWN AS NAS. CECIL FIELD. THE COLLEGE OVER THERE. COUNCILMAN. LANGERMAN. AND UNFORTUNATELY WE NOT ALL OF US WERE TOGETHER. SO WHAT I LIKE TO DO IS GET US ALL TOGETHER TO TAKE A PICTURE WITH THAT CHECK, BECAUSE THIS IS THIS IS A TEAM APPROACH. THIS IS HOW WE DO THINGS IN PALM BAY. ALL RIGHT, SO LET'S GO DOWNSTAIRS OR DOWNSTAIRS DOWN. I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU. ALL I KNOW, I TRIED TO GET THOSE. YOUR TEAM COMING DOWN, MR. MOORE, IS TANYA HERE? YES, SIR. SHE'S NOT HERE. YES. COME ON DOWN. OKAY. YEAH. IT'S COUNCIL. COME ON. EVERYBODY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NOW, THE REST OF THE TEAM. I NEED YOU ALL. TO BE CITY MANAGER. YOU WERE IN THE OTHER CAR. OH MY GOD. THANK YOU. JESUS. THANK YOU. JESUS. [00:25:07] I CAN'T SEE. OH, LOOK AT YOU. SMILE AGAIN. GREAT JOB. YOU'RE FUNNY. YOU'RE FUNNY. YEAH. HE IS. HE'S COOL. OKAY, DEPUTY MAYOR, WE ARE NOW ON PUBLIC [PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES:] COMMENTS. RON COOK. EVENING. COUNCIL. RON COOK, PENGUIN AVENUE. NORTHEAST. BEFORE I START, MAYOR, I WANT TO GIVE THANKS TO CHIEF SPURS FOR TAKING AN ACTIVE APPROACH TO ASSIGNING OFFICERS TO CONTROL THE TRAFFIC GRIDLOCK AT PINEAPPLE COVE ACADEMY ON EMERSON AND NESBITT. THANK YOU CHIEF. THIS HAS HELPED TO A SMALL DEGREE. THE PARENTS HAVE BEEN TOLD TO USE THE CHURCH PARKING LOT NEXT DOOR TO DROP OFF AND PICK UP THEIR CHILDREN. ONLY A HANDFUL ARE DOING SO, THOUGH. IF THE SCHOOL ADMINISTRATION MANDATED THAT IT WOULD ALLOW NESBITT BACK TO A TWO WAY STREET, ONE WAY GRIDLOCK STREET WOULD BE NO MORE. THE CITY ERECTED SIGNS STATING DO NOT BLOCK DRIVEWAYS, AND THERE'S A SIGN TELLING PARENTS NO PARKING ON NESBITT. THESE DRIVERS MUST BELIEVE THOSE SIGNS DO NOT APPLY TO THEM, SO THEY CONTINUE TO BREAK THE LAW FOR THEIR OWN BENEFIT OR THEIR OWN ENTITLEMENT. EACH DRIVER, USING THE CURRENT DRIVING LOOP, PUTS ON 648 EXTRA MILES ON THEIR VEHICLE FOR THE SCHOOL SAFE FOR THE SCHOOL SEASON, USING A MINIMUM OF 200 CARS A DAY, 100 EACH WAY. THAT IS 129,600 MILES ON OUR SECONDARY ROADS OF HURST, PINEDA AND NESBITT IN ONLY 180 DAYS. IF THEY USE THE CHURCH PARKING LOT AS DIRECTED, THEY WOULD PUT ZERO MILES ON THEIR VEHICLES AND ZERO MILES ON OUR ROADS. SECONDLY, PCA IS A BUSINESS. WHY ARE TAXPAYERS PAYING FOR OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS TO DO PRIVATE TRAFFIC CONTROL FOR A BUSINESS? ALL CHURCHES AND BUSINESSES USE OFF DUTY POLICE OFFICERS FOR TRAFFIC. WHY ISN'T PINEAPPLE COVE? THIS SHOULD BE AN OFF DUTY DETAIL FOR OFFICERS TO BE PAID BY PINEAPPLE COVE. ANOTHER OPTION IS FOR THE CITY TO BE REIMBURSED BY PCA TO HAVE OFFICERS THERE. THE CITY NEEDS TO BE REIMBURSED SO IT DOES NOT IMPACT THE CITIZENS TAX DOLLARS. I MENTIONED THIS IN THE PAST MEETINGS. I REQUESTED THE CITY MANAGER TELL PCA ADMINISTRATION YOU NEED TO CHANGE THE CAR LOOP IMMEDIATELY, OR ELSE THE CITY WILL NOT ISSUE A BUSINESS LICENSE FOR FUTURE YEARS. THE CITY SHOULD BE THE ONES TO MAKE THE RULES, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. SO FAR, PCA HAS HELD ALL THE CARDS FOR THE FOR THE ENTIRE FIVE YEARS, PCA IS TELLING THE CITY THEY ARE. THEY ARE GOING TO DO IT THEIR WAY, JUST LIKE THEY HAVE IN THE PAST WHEN PCA SECRETLY CHANGED THE PICKUP AND DROP OFF LOOP TO THEIR BENEFIT WITHOUT THE CITY'S KNOWLEDGE OR APPROVAL, AND NOTHING WAS DONE TO FOR THE CITY AS A PUNISHMENT. GOD FORBID, AS A RESIDENT, ANY OF US WOULD CHANGE THE RULES LIKE PCA DID. WE'D ALL SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES. WELL, WHY HASN'T PCA BEEN MADE ACCOUNTABLE? IT'S TIME TO MAKE PINEAPPLE COVE ACADEMY ACCOUNTABLE AS A BUSINESS. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS YOU CAN ASK? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. KIM COUTURE. KIM COUTURE. GOOD EVENING. I JUST HAVE. I'VE EMAILED EACH OF YOU. AND YOU KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT THE FLOCK CAMERAS. AND I'M GRATEFUL THAT THEY'VE BEEN SUSPENDED. WHAT? I WANT YOU TO MAKE SURE YOU KNOW, AND THE POLICE CHIEF KNOWS, IS THAT I AM NOT FOR THE FLOCK CAMERAS, BUT I'M DEFINITELY PRO FIRE AND POLICE SAFETY. THEIR SAFETY, OUR SAFETY. AND I'VE DONE A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH AND THERE ARE CAMERAS OUT THERE. I THINK MOTOROLA HAS ONE WHERE IT DOESN'T INVOLVE COLLECTING ALL THIS DATA THAT THE PEOPLE DON'T LIKE. IT'S JUST MORE OR LESS MINIMUM, YOU KNOW, IF THEY NEED TO GO BACK, THERE'S BEEN A CRIME, THEY NEED TO GO BACK AND LOOK TO SEE WHO'S BEEN THERE. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. BUT IT'S THESE CAMERAS PICKING UP ON OUR CONVERSATIONS, KNOWING WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, KNOWING WHERE I'M GOING. I HAVE A BIG PROBLEM WITH THAT. I THINK IT'S AN INTRUSION INTO OUR PRIVACY, WHICH THIS COUNTRY HAS LAWS AGAINST TO UPHOLD, AND IT'S OUR GOD GIVEN RIGHT. AND I JUST REALLY HOPE THAT ALL OF YOU CAN GET RID OF FLOCK. [00:30:01] BUT I DON'T WANT TO Y'ALL TO VOTE IN DRONE SURVEILLANCE OR AXON. AXON IS PROBABLY WORSE THAN FLOCK. SO I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO REALIZE WHAT THE CITIZENS WANT AND DON'T WANT. WE DON'T WANT OUR PRIVACY INTRUDED. WE WANT PUBLIC SAFETY. SO THERE'S GOT TO BE SOMETHING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. BILL BATTEN. BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST. CONGRATULATIONS ON THE PIKE DEVELOPMENT. I'LL STILL CALL IT THE COMPOUND. I'VE BEEN ENTRENCHED INTO MY MIND. THAT'S WHAT IT IS. BUT I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU CHANGED THE NAME. BUT AS BILL BATTEN SEES THIS AS, IT'S GREAT. THE GOVERNMENT HAS GIVEN ME BACK MY MONEY. OKAY. THAT BEING SAID, I'D LIKE TO SEE. I HEAR THAT THERE'S, LIKE, A $45 MILLION CON, NOT CONTRACTS, BUT PROPOSALS OF OTHER COMPANIES COMING IN. YOU'RE TRYING TO SAY WHAT THEY ARE. WILL THERE EVER BE SOME PRESENTATION THAT WILL. BILL BATTEN COULD FIND OUT WHAT SOME OF THAT INFORMATION WAS. AND THAT'S JUST IT. OTHER THAN THAT, KEEP GOING. IT'S THE RIGHT STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. JUST LET ME KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON BECAUSE CURIOUS MINDS NEED TO KNOW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SHEENA. WALLACE. MR. MORTON, DID YOU MAKE A NOTE OF THAT? THANK YOU. GENTLEMEN, I JUST WANT TO MAKE A QUICK REQUEST. IS IT POSSIBLE TO GET A COPY OF THAT TIMER CLOCK RIGHT THERE ON THE FLOOR? BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE STANDING HERE AT THE PODIUM SPEAKING, IT'S NOT VERY COMFORTABLE TO SEE THAT CLOCK UP THERE. CAN YOU SEE THIS ONE, MA'AM? I'M AN OLD PERSON. THAT'S A LITTLE NUMBER. SO THAT ONE'S FOR ME. BUT BUT LIKE A LITTLE ONE JUST RIGHT THERE ON THE FLOOR. AND THEN BECAUSE I LIKE THE VISUAL YOU HAVE WHEN YOU WHEN THE CAMERAS ARE SHOWING, SHOWING THE SPACE. AND IT'S NICE AND CLEAN LIKE THAT. CAMERA'S NOT IN IT. BUT IF YOU HAD ONE ON THE FLOOR RIGHT THERE, A LITTLE BIT BIGGER, MAYBE THE SAME SIZE, THE PODIUM WOULD BLOCK IT AND YOU'D STILL HAVE A CLEAN, BEAUTIFUL VIEW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM. WOODY WOODRUFF. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL TONIGHT. I DON'T WANT TO TALK TO YOU GUYS BECAUSE YOU GUYS ALREADY KNOW WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY. THIS IS FOR CITIZENS. I'M GOING TO READ SOMETHING. STAND BY. I'M GOING TO NEED SOME CHEATERS. THE LARGE UTILITY TANKS LOCATED NEAR BAYSIDE HIGH SCHOOL IN PALM BAY ARE ACTUALLY PART OF A LOCAL MUNICIPAL WASTEWATER SEWER UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE SITE OPERATED IN THE BAYSIDE AREA, RATHER THAN A FUNCTIONING TREATMENT PLANT OPERATED BY THE SCHOOL. OH. THERE WE GO. WASTEWATER PROCESSING. OVERVIEW. COLLECTION. RAW WATER, WASTEWATER AND SEWAGE FLOW THROUGH LOCAL UTILITY FORCE VEINS AND COLLECTION PIPES FROM SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE BAYSIDE LAKES COMMUNITY INTO THE INFRASTRUCTURE SITE. SCREENING AND SEPARATION. LARGE DEBRIS AND SOLIDS ARE INITIALLY FILTERED OUT USING MECHANICAL SCREENS AND GRIT REMOVAL SYSTEMS. BIOLOGICAL TREATMENT MICROBES INSIDE AERATION AND ANOXIC TANKS BREAK DOWN DISSOLVED ORGANIC WASTE AND BIOLOGICAL MATTER. DISPOSAL OF THE REFUSE. ONCE TREATED, THIS PROCESS. WATER IS MANAGED THROUGH REGIONAL SYSTEMS, WHICH CAN INCLUDE DISTRIBUTION FOR REUSE, IRRIGATION OR PLACEMENT INTO DEEP INJECTION WELLS, DEPENDING ON THE LOCAL SPECIFICATIONS. NOW BRINGING THIS UP BECAUSE THE GROWTH THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING WATER IS A FINITE THING. WE HAVE TWO AQUIFERS. I'M ON A WELL. NOTHING COULD HAPPEN TO THESE PIPES THAT ARE HIGH PRESSURE INJECTING US BACK DOWN. I DON'T KNOW WAY DEEP BELOW MY AQUIFER, BUT NOTHING NO PIPE COULD BREAK OR NOTHING COULD HAPPEN. I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT IT, BUT MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WE HAVE A WASTE TREATMENT PLANT AT THE HIGH SCHOOL. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, JEFF KIEL. GOOD EVENING. I'M JEFF KIEL, PRESIDENT AND CEO OF PROMISE AND BREVARD. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE NOT AWARE. PROMISE IN BREVARD IS A NINE ACRE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMUNITY IN WEST MELBOURNE, [00:35:05] RIGHT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BORDER FROM PALM BAY. AND WE PROVIDE AFFORDABLE INDEPENDENT HOUSING FOR 125 INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES. AND ONE OF OUR CORE PILLARS OF OUR RESIDENTS WHO LIVE THERE IS THAT WE LIKE TO PROVIDE EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM. AND ONE OF THE WAYS WE DO THAT IS WE HAVE A TEAM OF ABOUT 10 OR 12 INDIVIDUALS. CASSIE CAMPBELL, HERE'S A MEMBER OF THAT. SHE IS A RESIDENT OF PROMISE IN BREVARD. AND WHAT WE DO IS WE HAVE A MAIL IN FULFILLMENT OPERATION. AND WHAT WE WHAT WE THE WAY WE KICKED IT OFF IS WE DO ABOUT 5000 MAILINGS FOR THE CITY OF WEST MELBOURNE. WE HANDLE THEIR MAILING OF THEIR WATER BILLS EVERY MONTH, AND IT PROVIDES EMPLOYMENT FOR CASSIE AND SOME OF HER OTHER FELLOW RESIDENTS. IT PROVIDES SOME INCOME FOR THEM AND SOME SPENDING MONEY FOR THEM. AND IT'S REALLY PART OF WORKING WITH INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES IS THAT THEY WANT TO HAVE EVERYTHING WE HAVE. AND THAT INCLUDES EMPLOYMENT, OPPORTUNITY, FRIENDSHIPS, ACTIVITIES, AND THEY ARE REALLY LIVING THEIR BEST LIFE AT PROMISE. I KNOW THAT MANY OF YOU HAVE SPENT TIME AT PROMISE, AND WE APPRECIATE ANY SUPPORT WE'VE RECEIVED IN THE PAST. WE HAVE RECENTLY DONE A PROJECT FOR L3 HARRIS WHERE WE HAVE PUT TOGETHER, WE HAVE HELPED THEM MAIL OUT, ASSEMBLE AND MAIL OUT PACKAGES TO ALL OF THEIR VOLUNTEERS AROUND THE COUNTRY, THANKING THEM FOR THEIR VOLUNTEERISM. AND WE BASICALLY HAVE LOTS OF EXCESS CAPACITY. AND WE'RE NOT VERY RIGID WHEN IT COMES TO THE TYPE OF PROJECTS WE WORK ON. SO WE ASK THE CITY, MAYBE THEY CAN USE THEIR IMAGINATION ON SOME LABOR, SOME PROJECTS THAT WE CAN DO, ASSEMBLY PROJECTS THEY'RE ALL UNIQUE. AND THE WAY WE WORK WITH IT IS THAT WE HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS, WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE OPPORTUNITY IS, AND THEN WE PROVIDE SOME FEEDBACK ON HOW LONG WE THINK IT WILL TAKE. AND IT'S JUST A BEAUTIFUL THING AND PROVIDES THAT EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY. LINDSAY. ANTOINE HERE IS OUR JOB COACH. SO SHE WORKS WITH KASEY AND THE OTHERS. AND AGAIN, WE ARE JUST LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITY. WE HAVE EXCESS CAPACITY. AND IF YOU ALL HAVE ANY TYPES OF ACTIVITIES WITHIN THE CITY THAT COULD PROVIDE THAT EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY, IT WOULD IT WOULD MAKE A IT WOULD MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE. WHEN WE GOT INVOLVED WITH THE CITY OF WEST MELBOURNE, YOU KNOW, WE WORKED WITH SCOTT MORGAN AND HE SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT, JEFF? WE WANT TO DO THIS BECAUSE IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO. AND I'M APPEALING TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO HELP US COME UP WITH OPPORTUNITIES LIKE THAT AS WELL. SO THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO SPEAK. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DOUG. HOOK. IF YOU WANT THAT. DOUG HOOK, 1091. MARIPOSA. LAST TIME I CAME UP HERE AND TALKED TO YOU GUYS, WE TALKED ABOUT POTENTIALLY FINDING WAYS TO GET THE CITY AND CITIZENS MORE INVOLVED WITH LOCAL POLITICS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I NOTICED IMMEDIATELY AFTER THAT COUNCILMAN JOHNSON STARTED GOING ON FACEBOOK, SOCIAL MEDIA, TALKING ABOUT POLLS, HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE PUBLIC AND RECEIVING A LARGE NUMBER AMOUNT OF RESPONSES ON THERE. ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO DO SEEING, HIS FIRST ONE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE POOL. I KIND OF WANTED TO PUT MY MONEY WHERE MY MOUTH WAS. IF I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT ENGAGING WITH THE PUBLIC TO YOU GUYS AS LEADERS, THE THE PUBLIC ITSELF SHOULD BE INVOLVED WITH ENGAGING WITH EACH OTHER. SO I WENT ON AND I CREATED A POLL ON MY OWN, SENT IT OUT TO THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY THROUGHOUT THE DIFFERENT SOCIAL MEDIA CHANNELS OUT THERE. GOT APPROXIMATELY JUST SHY OF 100 DIFFERENT RESPONSES ON THERE. SO I WANTED TO BRING THOSE TO YOU TODAY. I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE BIG ON MAKING DATA DRIVEN DECISIONS. THIS MAY NOT BE THE MOST EFFICIENT DATA DRIVEN DECISION, BUT THIS IS DIRECT FEEDBACK FROM THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY PRESENTED TO YOU BY A CITIZEN OF PALM BAY. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT LOOKING FOR THINGS THAT MATTER, OPENING UP THE DISCUSSION TO INDIVIDUALS, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE GOING FORWARD. ANYBODY CAN DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS. IT TOOK ME A FEW MINUTES TO BUILD THIS POLL OUT MYSELF. ONE OF THE THINGS, A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANTED TO BRING OUT ABOUT THE POLL. YOU'RE LOOKING THROUGH THE RESPONSES. QUESTION NUMBER ONE DOES HAVE A BIT OF A LEAN TO IT. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS ANY BIASES DESIGNED IN THE POLL WERE WE'RE ACTUALLY KIND OF MEASURED OUT AS BEST AS I COULD. SO THAT ITEM NUMBER ONE ON THERE OF WHAT THE CITY SHOULD DO WITH THE POLL. THOSE WERE RANKED BY THE PEOPLE WHO TOOK THE THE POLL ITSELF. AND EACH ONE OF THOSE QUESTIONS WERE RANDOMIZED FOR EVERY INDIVIDUAL USER. [00:40:05] SO I TRIED TO PUT ANY BIAS OUT THERE. I DIDN'T PUT ITEM NUMBER ONE AS THE CITY SHOULD PAY FOR THE POOL. EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO TOOK THE POLL GOT A DIFFERENT INITIAL RANKING OF HOW THOSE WERE AND CHANGE THOSE RANKINGS ON THEIR OWN. ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT ON HERE IS I DID PUT A SECTION IN THERE FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK THEIR MINDS. IF YOU COULD SAY ANYTHING TO CITY LEADERSHIP ABOUT THE PALM BAY AQUATIC CENTER, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY? ONE OF THE THINGS I NOTICED IS SOME OF THE RESPONSES WERE OFF TOPIC. I JUST WANTED TO WARN YOU GUYS THAT I DID NOT FILTER OR EDIT ANY OF THESE. I LET THE PUBLIC HAVE THEIR VOICE AND SAY WHAT THEY WANTED TO SAY. THERE ARE SOME RESPONSES ON THERE THAT I WAS LIKE, I SHOULD PROBABLY EDIT THAT OUT, BUT I AGAIN, DID NOT WANT TO EDITORIALIZE WHAT WAS GOING ON, WITH THESE RESPONSES. AND THIS POLL AGAIN, DATA DRIVEN DECISIONS BROUGHT TO YOU BY THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY BY A CITIZEN OF PALM BAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, JARED MARTIN. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JARED MARTIN. I STAND BEFORE THE COUNCIL THIS EVENING TO REFLECT ON OUR COMMUNITY'S LEADERSHIP. FIRST, REAL QUICK, I JUST WANT TO KIND OF CALL OUT THESE MEETINGS. I KNOW THERE'S NOT MUCH WE CAN DO ABOUT IT, BUT THEN BEING AT 6 P.M., YOU KNOW, A LOT OF US HAVE JOBS UNTIL FIVE. AND OTHER OBLIGATIONS SUCH AS FAMILY THAT OBVIOUSLY COME BEFORE THESE MEETINGS. I FEEL THAT THIS FACT IS OFTEN EXPLOITED OR CAN BE EXPLOITED TO GET THINGS PASSED. I KNOW I HEAR A LOT OF TIMES THAT OTHER PEOPLE CAN'T MAKE THE MEETINGS OR, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT THINGS GOING ON AFTER WORK. MY KIDS HAVE HALF THINGS. THINGS OF THAT NATURE. I MYSELF WILL ADMIT I WOULD MUCH RATHER BE AT HOME WITH MY YOUNG DAUGHTER AND WIFE. HEARING ABOUT HOW THEIR DAYS WENT RATHER THAN BEING HERE. BUT I WANT TO BE ABLE TO TELL THEM THAT I DID EVERYTHING I COULD TO STAND UP FOR THEIR RIGHTS, THE RIGHTS OF OUR NEIGHBORS, AND WHAT IS MORALLY CORRECT. AS A HUSBAND AND FATHER, CHRIST CALLS ME TO LEAD BY EXAMPLE, NOT JUST FOR MY OWN FAMILY, BUT FOR OTHER YOUNG MEN AND YOUNG WOMEN, FOR THE SICK, FOR THE ELDERLY, AND FOR ALL OTHERS IN OUR COMMUNITY. THEY ALL DESERVE A BETTER FUTURE THAN WHAT IS CURRENTLY BEING OFFERED. I CALL ON THE YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN OF OUR COMMUNITY TO STAND UP FOR OUR RIGHTS AND THE RIGHTS OF OTHERS. WHAT IS THE THING WE SEE ONLINE, HEAR FROM FRIENDS OR GET TOLD ANY TIME? AT LEAST I KNOW I PERSONALLY, WHEN I COME TO THESE MEETINGS, YOU HEAR, OH, IT'S NO USE OR I DIDN'T VOTE FOR THOSE PEOPLE. OR WHAT DIFFERENCE WILL IT MAKE IF I COME AND SPEAK? THEY'RE JUST GOING TO DO WHATEVER THEY WANT. THIS IS EXACTLY THE KIND OF OF STIGMA THAT HAS BEEN AROUND LOCAL POLITICS IN OUR COUNTRY FOR FAR TOO LONG. AND IT'S TIME WE, AS THE NEXT GENERATION OF LEADERS, BRING A CHANGE TO THAT NARRATIVE. THE SENTIMENT AMONG YOUNG PEOPLE IS, A LOT OF TIMES THAT WE FEEL LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ARE ACTUALLY WORKING AGAINST OUR BETTER INTERESTS, WHILE IT'S OUR PLACE TO STAND UP. I FEEL IT'S ALSO OUR CITY COUNCIL'S DUTY TO REACH OUT AND TO WORK TO CHANGE THIS NARRATIVE. FROM YOUR END AS WELL. I WANTED TO SPEAK TONIGHT ABOUT THE HYPOCRISY SURROUNDING FLOC, THE SUSPENSION JUST BEFORE VOTING, ONLY FOR IT TO BE RE-IMPLEMENTED LESS THAN TWO WEEKS AFTER THE LAST BALLOT WAS CAST. I WANTED TO SPEAK ABOUT HOW CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TRIED TO QUIET ME AND SAY, OH, WE'LL SPEAK PRIVATELY JUST TO NEVER CONTACT ME. I WANT TO SPEAK ON THESE MATTERS AND MORE, BUT I RECOGNIZE THAT THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE HERE THAT ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT FLOC. SO RATHER, I'M HERE TO ASK YOU ALL SOMETHING FOR US. WE ALWAYS HEAR THAT THE COUNCIL IS COMPRISED OF GODLY MEN. IF THAT'S TRUE, I ASK YOU TO PLEASE, HUMBLY, PLEASE HUMBLE YOURSELVES. AND TONIGHT, WHEN YOU GO HOME, ASK GOD TO GUIDE YOUR HAND. OPEN YOUR BIBLE UP TO A RANDOM PAGE. IT'S ALWAYS WORKS FOR ME. LET GOD GUIDE YOUR HAND. OPEN YOUR BIBLE UP. READ THOSE TWO PAGES. IF NOTHING ELSE, I BELIEVE YOU'LL GET A LOT FROM THIS. AND THAT HE WILL WILL LEAD YOU TO BECOME BETTER LEADERS. THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU. DAN HOLMES. HOW WE DOING? DAN HOLMES 1107. WHITEHURST I STAND BEFORE YOU TODAY IS THE UNITED STATES VETERAN AND MILITARY. THESE UNITED STATES AND WE ARE LOSING POSSIBLY OUR VETERAN SERVICE OFFICER POSITION WITHIN OUR COUNTY. THE ONLY REASON I CAN THINK ABOUT THAT WE WOULD BE LOSING OUR VETERAN SERVICE OFFICER POSITION WITHIN OUR COUNTY IS BECAUSE WE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT VETERAN SERVICES ARE. I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE SERVICE THE VETERAN SERVICE OFFICE IN BREVARD COUNTY SERVICE 14,000 VETERANS IN [00:45:03] 2025, BUT A PROJECTION TO SERVICE 16,500 VETERANS IN 2026. WE'RE LOSING THE PROGRAM. WHERE DO 16,500 VETERANS IN BREVARD COUNTY GO GET THEIR SERVICES? WHAT SERVICES AM I TALKING ABOUT? DISABILITY CLAIM GUIDANCE. EDUCATION AND BENEFITS. SOMEBODY WHO JUST GOT OUT OF THE MILITARY DOESN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT'S NEXT. WHAT'S COMING. NEEDS EDUCATION, NEEDS RESOURCES, DISABILITIES. I CAME OUT OF THE MILITARY WITH A KIDNEY DISEASE. MY KIDNEY DISEASE IS TERMINAL. I WAS DIAGNOSED IN 2020 FROM TOXIC CHEMICAL EXPOSURE DURING MY TIME IN THE SERVICE. IN 2020, I WASN'T EXPECTED TO MAKE IT PAST 2020. IT'S NOW 2026. SO I STARTED AN ORGANIZATION CALLED THE ENLISTED KIDNEY FOUNDATION, EKF FOR SHORT. AND WHAT WE DO IS WE TURN AROUND AND WE HELP VETERANS WITH THEIR SERVICES, NOT JUST HOW TO FILE A CLAIM, NOT JUST HOW TO GET COMPENSATION AND PENSION, OR HOW TO SIGN UP FOR THE VA SO I CAN GO SEE THEM UP IN VIERA. BUT WE SIT DOWN WITH OUR VETERANS AND WE TALK ABOUT YOUR HEALTH. WE TALK ABOUT YOUR SERVICE, WHERE YOU BEEN, WHAT YOU DID. WE CARE ABOUT YOU AS A VETERAN. WE DO THIS NATIONWIDE. WE'RE A VETERAN. LED 501 C THREE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION. AND WHAT I PITCHED TO THE CITY TONIGHT IS THAT WE USE E, K, F AND THE POWER BEHIND US TO PARTNER WITH THIS CITY, THE BIGGEST CITY IN BREVARD, A PURPLE HEART CITY. AND WE COME TOGETHER AS A CITY. AND WE WORK THROUGH EKF AS AN OPEN DOOR FOR OUR VETERANS. I INVITE EVERY VETERAN THAT'S WATCHING TONIGHT. I INVITE EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM TO COME THROUGH OUR DOORS FREE OF CHARGE. 1 IN 7 AMERICANS ARE BATTLING KIDNEY DISEASE, AND 90% OF THEM DON'T EVEN KNOW. BUT WHAT'S CRAZIER THAN THAT IS THAT 1 IN 6 VETERANS HAVE KIDNEY DISEASE NATIONWIDE. SO AGAIN, MY MY ASK FROM CITY COUNCIL IS PLEASE PARTNER WITH THE ENLISTED KIDNEY FOUNDATION SO WE CAN HELP AT LEAST THOSE 16,500 VETERANS THAT ARE PROJECTED TO NEED SERVICES. DO YOU SIR, DO YOU HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT VETERAN SERVICE OFFICER IN THE COUNTY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT IN VIERA? THIS IS HOW I UNDERSTAND IT. I APPLIED TO BE A VETERAN SERVICE OFFICER. I'M A DISABLED VETERAN. IT'S HARD FOR ME TO GET A JOB BECAUSE OF MY KIDNEY DISEASE. I APPLIED TO DO THIS JOB AND I GOT AN ANSWER BACK. NOT THAT WE WEREN'T GOING TO HIRE YOU, AND THEN WE SELECTED SOMEBODY ELSE THAT WAS MORE QUALIFIED, BECAUSE I'M SURE THERE'S A LOT OF QUALIFIED PEOPLE IN OUR CITY AND OUR COUNTY, BUT IS THAT WE WERE REMOVING THE PROGRAM. WE WERE LOSING THE FUNDING FOR THE PROGRAM. THANKS FOR APPLYING. OH, I SEE, SO YOU APPLIED FOR THE COUNTY? YES, SIR. COPY THAT. ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON WANTS TO ASK A QUESTION. YES, SIR. AND THANK YOU FOR. THANK YOU, FIRST AND FOREMOST FOR YOUR SERVICE. COACH. THANK YOU FOR COMING TO SPEAK. WE HAD SPOKEN, MAYOR BECAUSE WHEN MY CONVERSATION WITH HIM WAS THAT WE, WHEN HE HAD BROUGHT UP, BROUGHT THIS CONCERN TO ME, I REMEMBER THAT THE CITY MANAGER HAD MENTIONED THAT BECAUSE OF THE BUDGET CUTS THAT WE WERE POTENTIALLY GOING TO LOSE THE VETERAN SERVICE OFFICER IN THE CITY. SO THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT HE WAS REFERRING TO. SO THERE MAY BE A MISCOMMUNICATION ON THAT, BUT EITHER WAY, YOU'RE A 501 C THREE, CORRECT? YES, SIR. I DON'T EVEN HAVE TO TAKE FUNDS OUT OF CITY BUDGETS. IF THAT'S THE PROBLEM, WE CAN RAISE FUNDS TOGETHER. SO WE WE HAVE YOUR NAME. I WANT TO CONTINUE THIS DISCUSSION. FOR FURTHER DIALOG, I'D LIKE YOU TO PASS THAT ON TO THE CITY MANAGER, BECAUSE WE DO. AND IT TOOK ME A FEW YEARS TO GET A VSO HERE. HE'S A COUNTY EMPLOYEE, BUT WE PAY HALF THAT SALARY. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS, I KNOW I ASKED COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. HE WAS MY, MY, MY DECIDING VOTE. I WASN'T SURE ABOUT IT FIRST. AND THEN I SAW THE NUMBERS AND I WAS I WAS ALL FOR IT. BUT THE NUMBERS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES, JUST LIKE YOU SAY. SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED THAT WE HAVE THAT CALIBER RIGHT HERE AT CITY HALL. BUT I WANT TO CONTINUE THIS DIALOG OFFLINE WITH OUR STAFF TO SEE HOW WE COULD COME ALONGSIDE EKF AND SEE WHAT WE COULD DO. I APPRECIATE THAT WE SHOULDN'T BE TALKING ABOUT CUTTING ANYTHING FROM A VETERAN. I APPRECIATE THAT. DULY NOTED. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MANUEL TOVAR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR. [00:50:04] GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. MY NAME IS MANUEL TOVAR. I REPRESENT THERMO PROPANE. I LIVE AT 5510 ENTERTAINMENT WAY, FORT PIERCE. AND THE REASON I CAME HERE TODAY IS BECAUSE IN THE LAST FEW MEETINGS WE HAD HERE, TRYING TO DISCUSS THE BULK PLAN AT COMPOUND THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ESTABLISH. IT WAS VOTED AGAINST THE ZONING, AND I REALLY DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO TALK TO ANYBODY ABOUT THIS, SO I WAS TRYING TO SEE IF I COULD SCHEDULE A MEETING WHERE THE CITY MANAGER. YOU, MR. MAYOR, BECAUSE FROM THE BODY LANGUAGE THAT I RECEIVED WHEN YOU GUYS WERE ASKING QUESTIONS, IT'S ALMOST LIKE I COULD TELL THAT YOU DON'T YOU'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE PROPANE INDUSTRY. YOU KNOW, AND I WANT TO I WOULD LOVE TO MAYBE SHOW YOU MY BULK PLAN IN SANFORD. MAYBE I COULD COME PICK YOU GUYS UP, TAKE YOU OVER THERE, SHOW YOU EVERYTHING. BECAUSE ALL THOSE QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS HAD, I CAN PUT THEM AT EASE. MR. FIRE CHIEF HERE, I THINK HE HAD REQUESTED 1500 GALLONS PER MINUTE. WE'RE WE'RE WANTING TO DO THAT, BUT THE FEDERAL LAW SAYS YOU ONLY NEED 201 GALLONS. THAT'S HE'S ASKING SIX TIMES THE WATER CAPACITY. WE'RE WILLING TO DO IT. WE HAVE THE PROPOSALS AND EVERYTHING TO GET IT DONE. BUT A LOT OF THESE QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS ARE SCARED OF IS BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW EXACTLY THE SAFETY PROCEDURES THAT WE, WE PUT OUT TO PREVENT ACCIDENTS. WE'VE BEEN IN SANFORD 74 YEARS AND WE HAVEN'T HAD NO PROBLEM. I WAS ACTUALLY LOOKING UP ON SUNDAY PROPANE EXPLOSIONS. I COULDN'T FIND ANY. SO I'M LIKE, AND I'VE BEEN DOING THIS 30 YEARS. I'VE NEVER HEARD OF ANY BULK PLANT, YOU KNOW, EXPLOSION OR ANYTHING ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTRY. A FEW YEARS AGO THERE WAS ONE, BUT IT WAS NOT A BULK PLANT. IT WAS A SLENDER YOU KNOW, THEY FEEL LITTLE TANKS, THEY REFURBISHED THEM AND FILLING THEM. SO I HAD NOT. IT'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT. BUT I WOULD LOVE TO IF YOU GUYS CAN EITHER MEET WITH ME PERSONALLY, I CAN BRING MY SAFETY DIRECTOR, WE CAN TALK AND ALL THESE QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS HAD THAT I WASN'T ABLE TO TALK. I COULD EXPLAIN THIS TO YOU. ALL THE SAFETY STUFF THAT WE DO TO PREVENT ANY ACCIDENTS. AND LIKE I SAID, IF YOU'RE WILLING, I'LL PICK YOU UP. YOU TELL ME WHAT DAY UP TO. MY BULK PLANT IN SANFORD IS ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF FROM HERE. AND I'LL SHOW YOU EVERYTHING YOU KNOW. AND THAT'S ABOUT IT, REALLY. I MEAN, I WOULD LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLAIN THIS TO YOU GUYS. WELL, SO WE WE VOTED ON THIS. AND, AND I CAN TELL YOU FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I MADE IT PUBLIC. IT'S ZONED NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL. ULTIMATELY, YOU WANTED TO ZONE IT LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, WHICH THERE ARE SURROUNDING LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, RIGHT? SO THAT THAT PROPERTY IS JUST A LITTLE BIT OFF. BUT ULTIMATELY WHAT YOU WERE TRYING TO GET IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN OPERATE THERE. SO YOU HAD TO GO HEAVY INDUSTRIAL. AND I'M NOT GOOD WITH PUTTING HEAVY INDUSTRIAL OUT THERE. AND THAT'S I MADE THAT PUBLIC. SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE I'M AT. BUT IF YOUR COMPANY WANTS TO BRING THAT BACK, THERE IS A PROCESS. THEY'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH OUR CITY STAFF ALL OVER AGAIN BECAUSE THAT'S QUASI JUDICIAL. I WOULD NOT ULTIMATELY GO DOWN RANGE AND MEET. I MAKE THE DECISIONS AND I'M SPEAKING FOR MYSELF AT THIS POINT. BUT YOU CAN ACTUALLY GO THROUGH STAFF, SEE HOW YOU COULD BRING THIS BACK. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WELL, I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, ANNA GRINWIS. ANNA GRINWIS 736 AVENUE. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCILMAN. TONIGHT, I WANT TO ADDRESS CONCERNS REGARDING THE POTENTIAL CONSOLIDATION OF PALM BAY POLICE DEPARTMENT'S DISPATCH. BRING THE MIC CLOSER TO YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU. YES, I LI FOR LIKE FOR YOU TO SPEAK IN THE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. REGARDING THE POTENTIAL CONSOLIDATION OF PALM BAY POLICE DEPARTMENT'S DISPATCH WITH BREVARD COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, OUR CITY'S MESSAGE IS SIMPLE CONNECT. SERVE. IMPACT. FOR 44 YEARS, PALM BAY POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN DISPATCHING THEIR OWN POLICE OFFICERS 44 YEARS. I WORRIED THAT TRANSITIONING OUR 911 COMMUNICATIONS AWAY FROM LOCAL CONTROL COULD HINDER OUR ABILITY TO FULLY DELIVER ON THAT PROMISE TO THE RESIDENTS OF PALM BAY. BEFORE MAKING A DECISION THAT COULD FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE OUR EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS SYSTEM. FURTHER ASSESSMENT IS NEEDED TO PROVE THIS WILL BETTER. PALM BAY PALM BAY IS ONE OF THE FASTEST GROWING COMMUNITY OR COMMUNITIES IN BREVARD COUNTY. OUR SYSTEM NEEDS TO BE DESIGNED FOR NOT JUST THE PALM BAY OF TODAY, BUT FOR THE PALM BAY OF TOMORROW. [00:55:04] I WORRY THAT THIS PROPOSED TRANSITION COULD NEGATIVELY IMPACT OUR COMMUNITY, OUR CITIZENS, AND OUR FIRST RESPONDERS. AS OUR COMMUNITY'S CHOSEN LEADERS, IT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO REQUEST THE DATA. CHALLENGE THE ASSUMPTIONS. EXPLORE EVERY ALTERNATIVE AND MAKE SURE THE DECISION BEING MADE IS TRULY IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY. PLEASE DON'T JUST ASK HOW MUCH CAN WE SAVE? INSTEAD, ASK WHAT ARE WE GIVING UP TO ACHIEVE THOSE SAVINGS? CAN THE CITY PRESERVE WHAT WORKS WHILE STILL ADDRESSING OUR FINANCIAL CHALLENGES? CITIZENS DESERVE A SYSTEM THAT IS RESILIENT, RESPONSIVE, ACCOUNTABLE, AND BUILT AROUND THEM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT. KIM. NADIA. HI, I'M KIM NOTERE. I'VE WORKED HERE IN PALM BAY AS A 911 DISPATCHER AND AS A SUPERVISOR FOR OVER 30 YEARS. AND I LIVE ON COOLIDGE ROAD IN PALM IN PALM BAY. I'M GOING TO START WITH OPERATIONAL PERFORMANCE. HOW CAN WE DETERMINE WHETHER CONSOLIDATION WILL IMPROVE SERVICE? IF WE HAVE NOT BEEN PROVIDED A COMPARABLE BASELINE PERFORMANCE ANALYSIS BETWEEN PALM BAY AND BCSO, WHAT SPECIFIC PERFORMANCE STANDARDS WILL PALM BAY EXPECT AFTER CONSOLIDATION, AND HOW WILL WE MEASURE WHETHER THOSE STANDARDS ARE ACTUALLY BEING MET? AS FAR AS STAFFING AND RETENTION, HOW DOES BCSO PLAN TO SUPPORT THE CONTINUED GROWTH OF PALM BAY? WHAT HAPPENS IF FEWER DISPATCHERS TRANSITION THAN ANTICIPATED WILL BE CSO'S? CURRENT STAFFING LEVELS ALLOW PALM BAY RESIDENTS TO RECEIVE THE SAME LEVEL OF SERVICE THEY RECEIVE TODAY, AND WHAT SAFEGUARDS ARE IN PLACE TO PREVENT INCREASED WORKLOAD FROM CONTRIBUTING TO BURNOUT, TURNOVER, OR SLOWER RESPONSE. AS FAR AS FINANCIAL SUSTAINABILITY. ARE THERE PROVEN, DOCUMENTED SAVINGS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROPOSAL? ARE WE MAKING A DECISION BASED ON PROJECTED SAVINGS? AND IF THERE IS FINANCIAL SHORTFALL. HAVE ALL THE ALTERNATIVES BEEN EXPLORED TO MAINTAIN LOCAL DISPATCH WITHOUT PLACING THE BURDEN ON CITIZENS WHO ULTIMATELY DEPEND ON THIS SERVICE? BECAUSE WE ALSO NEED TO ASK OURSELVES A DIFFICULT, DIFFICULT QUESTION. WHAT DOLLAR AMOUNT SHOULD BE PLACED ON THE POTENTIAL TO SAVE A LIFE? CONSOLIDATION VERSUS REGIONALIZATION. HAVE WE FULLY EXPLORED ALTERNATIVES THAT COULD PROVIDE FINANCIAL EFFICIENCY WHILE ALLOWING PALM BAY TO MAINTAIN LOCAL DISPATCH? COULD PALM BAY BECOME A BACKUP PEACE APP? AND FINALLY, EMERGENCY RESILIENCY AS WELL AS FUTURE READINESS. WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE UNEXPECTED OCCURS? A MAJOR HURRICANE. A COMMUNICATIONS FAILURE. A MASS CASUALTY EVENT OR A CYBER ATTACK. DO WE BECOME STRONGER BY HAVING FEWER INDEPENDENT RESOURCES? OR WOULD WE MEAN OR WOULD MAINTAINING A LOCAL CAPACITY PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL LAYER OF RESILIENCY FOR PALM BAY AND POTENTIALLY THE ENTIRE REGION? THAT PART WILL BE YOURS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. PENELOPE. CHRIS. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING OVERLOOKED WITH EMERGENCY COMMUNICATION. THE HUMAN BEING ON THE OTHER END OF THE 911 CALL. BETWEEN FEBRUARY AND JULY OF 2026, PALM BAY EXPERIENCED 316 MEDICAL ROLLOVER CALLS THAT REQUIRED ADDITIONAL HANDLING. BECAUSE BSO'S CURRENT CALL DEMAND IS NOT SUPPORTED BY THEIR STAFFING LEVELS. 316 CALLS IN JUST SIX MONTHS. THAT'S 316 PEOPLE. THESE CITIZENS BEHIND US NOW CONSIDER THAT PALM BAY IS CURRENT. POLICE RESPONSE TIME IS APPROXIMATELY SEVEN MINUTES AND 45 SECONDS. WHEN SOMEONE CALLS 911, THOSE MINUTES MATTER. OUR CITIZENS WORST DAYS EVERY SECOND. BETWEEN PICKING UP, PICKING UP THE PHONE, AND GETTING HELP TO THEIR DOOR MATTERS. THAT IS WHY I BELIEVE WE NEED TO LOOK BEYOND SIMPLY ASKING WHETHER ANOTHER AGENCY CAN ANSWER OUR CALLS. WE NEED TO ASK CAN THEY PROVIDE THE SAME LEVEL OF SERVICE, THE SAME RESPONSIVENESS, AND THE SAME UNDERSTANDING OF OUR COMMUNITY? OUR DISPATCHERS AREN'T JUST EMPLOYEES WHO HAPPEN TO WORK IN PALM BAY. THEY ARE MEMBERS OF THIS COMMUNITY. THEY KNOW OUR STREETS, OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. THEY UNDERSTAND OUR GEOGRAPHY AND RECOGNIZE LOCAL LANDMARKS, [01:00:05] DEVELOPMENTS, PROBLEM AREAS. THEY KNOW OUR OFFICERS AND THE UNIQUE CHALLENGES THAT COME WITH THE CITY AS GEOGRAPHICALLY LARGE AND RAPIDLY GROWING AS PALM BAY THAT LOCAL KNOWLEDGE CANNOT SIMPLY BE TRANSFERRED WITH A COMPUTER SYSTEM OR A RADIO CONSOLE. IT IS BUILT THROUGH EXPERIENCE AND RELATIONSHIPS IN AN EMERGENCY. LOCAL KNOWLEDGE CAN BE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SIMPLY PROCESSING A CALL AND TRULY UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE CALLER NEEDS. THE LATEST CENSUS ESTIMATE PLACES OUR POPULATION AT MORE THAN 148,000 RESIDENTS. PALM BAY HAS GROWN SO QUICKLY THAT WE'VE ALREADY SURPASSED THE OLDER CITY PLANNING PROJECTION FOR WHERE OUR POPULATION WAS EXPECTED TO BE IN 2030. THAT PROJECTION ESTIMATED APPROXIMATELY 146,795 RESIDENTS BY 2030. THE PALM BAY POLICE DEPARTMENT HAD A 157,564 CALLS FOR SERVICE IN 2025. AS OF THIS AFTERNOON, THERE HAVE BEEN 106,371 FOR 2026. SO THE QUESTION ISN'T WHETHER OUR EMERGENCY COMMUNICATION NEEDS ARE GOING TO GROW. THE QUESTION IS WHETHER THE SYSTEM WE CHOOSE TODAY IS CAPABLE OF SERVING THE PALM BAY OF TOMORROW. WE ARE ALREADY FACING HUNDREDS OF MEDICAL ROLLOVERS WHILE SERVING NEARLY 150 000 PEOPLE AND CONTINUING TO GROW. WE SHOULD BE ASKING WHETHER REDUCING LOCAL CAPACITY IS THE RIGHT ANSWER, OR WHETHER WE SHOULD BE INVESTING IN MAKING OUR CAPACITY STRONGER. COLLABORATION DOES NOT MEAN CONSOLIDATION. WE CAN REGIONALIZE. WE CAN ESTABLISH STRONGER BACKUP CAPABILITIES. OUR CITY SAYS CONNECT, SERVE AND IMPACT, AND OUR DISPATCHERS DO THAT EVERY SINGLE DAY. BEFORE WE GIVE THAT RESPONSIBILITY AWAY, I BELIEVE WE OWE THE RESIDENTS THE DUE DILIGENCE TO PROVE THAT WE CAN PROVIDE SOMETHING BETTER, NOT SOMETHING JUST DIFFERENT. OUR EMERGENCY COMMUNICATION SYSTEM SHOULD BE GROWING STRONGER BECAUSE PALM BAY IS GROWING. OUR CALL VOLUME IS GROWING AND OUR RESPONSIBILITIES ARE GROWING WITH IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MICHAEL ZIEGLER. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL. MY NAME IS MIKE ZIEGLER. 2471 SNAPDRAGON. I GOTTA GET MY CHEATERS TOO. TODAY I'M ASKING THAT WE LOOK BEYOND THE ASSUMPTION OF CONSOLIDATION FOR THE 911. THAT WILL AUTOMATICALLY MEAN EFFICIENCY ACROSS FLORIDA, COMMUNITIES ARE TAKING A CLOSER LOOK AT PLACING 911 SERVICES UNDER THE SHERIFF CONTROL. DEERFIELD BEACH JUST RECENTLY VOTED TO ESTABLISH ITS OWN DISPATCH SERVICES AFTER MORE THAN 30 YEARS UNDER THEIR SHERIFF. POMPANO BEACH HAS ALSO BEEN EVALUATING A RETURN TO THEIR INDEPENDENT 911 CENTER. NOW THAT SHOULD MAKE US ASK SIMPLE QUESTIONS. IF THIS IS THE BETTER ANSWER, WHY ARE COMMUNITIES RECONSIDERING THIS? WHERE IS THE RESEARCH SHOWING THIS WILL PRODUCE BETTER OUTCOMES? LIKE YOU HEARD, PALM BAY IS APPROACHING. I BELIEVE WE JUST HIT 160,000 RESIDENTS ACROSS NEARLY 88MI². WE'RE NOT A SMALL MUNICIPALITY, AND WE SHOULD NOT ASSUME THE RESULTS FROM SMALLER COMMUNITIES WILL APPLY TO US. SO AGAIN, WHERE IS THE COMPARABLE DATA? WHAT COMMUNITY OF PALM BAY SIZE HAS BEEN STUDIED? WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE THAT MOVING OUR 901 INTO A COUNTY SYSTEM WILL IMPROVE SERVICE? SHOW THE CITIZENS THE DATA. OUR 911 CENTER HAS OPERATED APPROXIMATELY 6.7% BELOW THE BUDGET SINCE 2024. IF PROJECTED BUDGETS HAVE CONSISTENTLY NOT BEEN REACHED, SHOULDN'T WE FIRST LOOK AT RESTRUCTURING THE BUDGET? CONSOLIDATION IS NOT OUR ONLY OPTION. WE CAN PURSUE EFFICIENCIES WHILE REMAINING A LOCAL 911 CENTER THAT KNOWS PALM BAY. OUR DISPATCHERS KNOW OUR COMMUNITY, THAT LOCAL KNOWLEDGE HAS VALUE. THIS ISN'T ABOUT RESISTING CHANGE. IT'S ABOUT REFUSING TO MAKE A PERMANENT CHANGE TO A SERVICE OUR RESIDENTS DEPEND ON. WITHOUT PROVING THE REPLACEMENT IS BETTER. AND IF THIS PROPOSAL IS TRULY BETTER FOR PALM BAY, THE DATA SHOULD DEMONSTRATE IT. AND IF COMPARABLE RESEARCH DOESN'T EXIST, THEN PERHAPS THE REASONABLE DECISION IS TO NOT MOVE FORWARD, BUT TO DO THE RESEARCH FIRST, BECAUSE OUR RESPONSIBILITY ISN'T SIMPLY TO FIND THE CHEAPEST WAY TO ANSWER A 911 CALL. OUR RESPONSIBILITY IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN A RESIDENT CALLS FOR HELP, THEY RECEIVE THE BEST POSSIBLE RESPONSE. CONNECT, SERVE AND IMPACT. THAT'S PALM BAY MESSAGE. LET'S MAKE SURE OUR DECISIONS ACTUALLY ALLOW US TO LIVE BY IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAYOR WILLIAMS. [01:05:14] GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING I BELIEVE IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT AS WE DISCUSS THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO 901 COMMUNICATIONS. THE LEGISLATION CURRENTLY BEING DISCUSSED HAS BEEN DESCRIBED IN TERMS OF CREATING A UNIFIED 911 SYSTEM, BUT WE NEED TO LOOK CLOSELY AT WHAT THE BILL ACTUALLY SAYS AND, MORE IMPORTANTLY, WHAT OPPORTUNITY IT CREATES. THE PROPOSED LEGISLATION CONTEMPLATES A UNIFIED 911 CALL CENTER, BUT IT ALSO SPECIFIES REQUIRED AN ALTERNATE CENTER TO THE PRIMARY PCCEP. THE ALTERNATE CENTER IS INTENDED TO RECEIVE EMERGENCY CALLS WHEN THE PRIMARY PIECE OF IS UNABLE TO DO SO. THAT SHOULD MAKE US STOP AND ASK A VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION WHY COULDN'T PALM BAY BE THAT RESOURCE INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT THIS CONVERSATION AS SIMPLY PALM BAY VERSUS BCSO? WHY AREN'T WE LOOKING AT AT HOW PALM BAY CAN BECOME AN ESSENTIAL PART OF A REGIONAL EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS NETWORK. BCSO WILL STILL BE NEEDED. REDUNDANCY. THEY WILL STILL BE IN NEED OF A LOCATION CAPABLE OF HANDLING EMERGENCY CALLS WHEN THE PRIMARY CENTER EXPERIENCES AN OUTAGE, CATASTROPHIC EVENTS, STAFFING CRISIS, COMMUNICATIONS FAILURE OR OTHER EMERGENCIES. AND PALM BAY ALREADY HAS AN ESTABLISHED COMMUNICATION CENTER, TRAINED PUBLIC SAFETY TELECOMMUNICATORS INFRASTRUCTURE, LOCAL KNOWLEDGE AND A COMMUNITY THAT CONTINUES TO GROW. SO RATHER THAN ELIMINATING THAT CAPACITY, WHY AREN'T WE EXPLORING A MODEL WHERE PALM BAY BECOMES A REGIONAL BACKUP APP CENTER? AND IF PALM BAY IS PROVIDING THAT SERVICE TO THE COUNTY, WHY SHOULDN'T THE CITY BE COMPENSATED FOR IT? IF FINANCES ARE TRULY THE CONCERN, THEN LET'S CREATE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PALM BAY TO GENERATE REVENUE. BCSO COULD ALSO CONTRACT WITH PALM BAY FOR BACKUP SERVICES, CONTINUITY OPERATIONS, OVERFLOW CALL HANDLING, AND OTHER MUTUAL BENEFICIAL EMERGENCY COMMUNICATION SERVICES. PALM BAY IS ONE OF THE FASTEST GROWING COMMUNITIES IN THIS AREA. OUR EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS INFRASTRUCTURE SHOULD BE VIEWED AS AN ASSET, NOT SIMPLY AN EXPENSE. THIS LEGISLATION ITSELF RECOGNIZES THE IMPORTANCE OF REDUNDANCY BY REQUIRING AN ALTERNATE CENTER. SO LET'S BE INNOVATIVE. LET'S REGIONALIZE WITHOUT ELIMINATING LOCAL CAPABILITY. LET'S BUILD REDUNDANCY INSTEAD OF REDUCING IT. LET'S TURN PALM BAY COMMUNICATION CENTER INTO A RESOURCE THAT BENEFITS NOT ONLY OUR RESIDENTS, BUT POTENTIALLY THE ENTIRE REGION. DON'T JUST ASK WHETHER PALM BAY CAN AFFORD TO KEEP ITS DISPATCH CENTER. ASK WHETHER PALM BAY CAN AFFORD TO NOT HAVE IT. ASK WHETHER PALM BAY CAN TURN THAT CENTER INTO A REVENUE GENERATING REGIONAL ASSET. PALM BAY HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE MORE THAN A PARTICIPANT IN A UNIFIED SYSTEM. WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE A SAFETY NET. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CONNIE MCCLARY. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, DEPUTY MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF MISS LOUISE TERRY. I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR ALLOCATING THE MONEY FOR THE BUILD HER HOUSE. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL HOUSE, BUT I KNOW HER DAUGHTER WAS HERE A FEW MONTHS AGO ASKING FOR A FENCE. AND MISS TERRY HAS HAD PROBLEMS WITH HER HOUSE. SOMEONE TRIED TO BREAK IN HER HOUSE. SOMEONE WENT AND STOLE A TABLE OUT OF HER BACKYARD. AND I KNOW Y'ALL ARE ALLOCATED $349,000 FOR HER HOUSE. AND THE BUILDER, IT CAME IN THE BID FOR $318,000. I THINK WHEN I SPOKE WITH ALICIA. SHE HAD TO PAY OFF A LOAN FOR HER MOM'S HOUSE BEFORE THE CITY EVEN STARTED TO BUILD ON IT. AND ALSO, SHE HAD TO PAY. SHE TOLD ME SHE HAD TO PAY $8,000 FOR HER MOM'S HOUSE TO BE RESTORED BACK TO A THREE BEDROOM HOUSE BECAUSE IT WAS THEY WANTED TO DO A TWO BEDROOM. SO THE BUILDER TOLD HER IT WOULD COST AN EXTRA $8,000 FOR HER, AND SHE HAD TO PAY THAT. AND A FENCE WILL CAUSE ANYWHERE FROM 53, $5300 TO $6000. SO WHAT I'M ASKING IS FOR Y'ALL TO GO BACK BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH YOU ALLOCATED $349,000 AND, AND IT WAS BUILT FOR $318,000, I'M ASKING YOU ALL TO PLEASE GO BACK AND RETHINK TO DO THE FENCE FOR MISS TERRY. AND WHEN I SPOKE WITH MISS DENISE CARTER ABOUT A MONTH OR SO AGO, SHE TOLD ME SHE WAS GOING TO PUT IN FOR A FENCE TO BE BUILT AROUND [01:10:03] HER AIR CONDITIONER TO KEEP SOMEBODY FROM STEALING IT. SO I KNOW WASHINGTON STREET IS ONE OF THE WORST STREETS IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S BETTER THAN WHAT IT USED TO BE. BUT I'M NOT ASKING Y'ALL TO RETHINK ABOUT AND DO THE FENCE FOR MISS TERRY. I WILL APPRECIATE THAT. SHE'S 90 YEARS OLD AND SHE STAYED THERE BY HERSELF, AND I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT. ALSO, I WANT TO ADDRESS THE FA CHEMICAL. I SPOKE WITH OUR STATE REPRESENTATIVE, MISS MONIQUE MILLER, AND SHE HEARD ABOUT. SHE KNOW ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED WITH FA CHEMICAL. SO I TOLD HER I WILL BE EMAILING HER AND CONTACTING HER FOR TO TRY TO GET SOME REGULATIONS ON FA CHEMICAL AND I'M ASKING Y'ALL, WOULD Y'ALL PLEASE HELP ME AND BACK ME ON THAT? THANK YOU ALL. HAVE A BLESSED DAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I'M A MENDEZ. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, DEPUTY MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. MY NAME IS JAMIE MENDEZ. I'M A RESIDENT OF PALM BAY AT SEVEN FOUR, EIGHT BADGER DRIVE. I'M STANDING BEFORE YOU TONIGHT ON BEHALF OF THE LOCAL PICKLEBALL COMMUNITY. THAT'S RIGHT. REGARDING A PROJECT THAT THIS COUNCIL ENTHUSIASTICALLY SUPPORTED AND FUNDED OVER TWO YEARS AGO. IT'S ABOUT THE EIGHT NEW COURTS AT VETERANS PARK. I BELIEVE SIX WOULD BE PLENTY. IDEALISTICALLY, WHAT HAPPENED AT WEST MELBOURNE AND BRYAN ADAMS PARK WOULD BE PERFECT. AS ALL REMEMBER, IN JULY OF 2024, THIS COUNCIL VOTED TO APPROVE THE ALLOCATION OF THE MUNICIPAL PARK IMPACT FEES TO FULLY FUND THIS PROJECT. WE WERE TOLD THE MONEY WAS SECURED, SITTING SAFELY IN A DEDICATED ACCOUNT AND READY TO EXPAND ON OUR PARKS CAPACITY. YET, HERE WE ARE. SEPTEMBER 2026 AND VETERAN PARKS REMAINS UNCHANGED. THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD HAS OPENLY NOTED IN THEIR REVIEWS THAT WHILE THE MONEY IS THERE, PROGRESS ON BREAKING GROUND HAS ENTIRELY STALLED. WE UNDERSTAND THAT MUNICIPAL PROJECTS REQUIRING PLANNING, VETTING AND PROPER PROCUREMENT PROCEDURES. HOWEVER, A MULTI-YEAR DELAY FOR AN ALREADY FUNDED PROJECT CROSSES THE LINE FROM CAREFUL PLANNING TO INTO BUREAUCRATIC STAGNATION UNDER FLORIDA'S IMPACT FEE GUIDELINES. THESE DEVELOPER FUNDS ARE MEANT TO ACTIVELY IMPROVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE CITIZENS LIVING HERE NOW, LEAVING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS SITTING IN IDLE. AN ACCOUNT DOES NOT SERVE OUR COMMUNITY, NOR DOES IT HONOR THE VOTE THIS COUNCIL TOOK BACK IN 2024. PICKLEBALL IS NOT JUST A PASSING TREND, IT IS THE FASTEST GROWING SPORT AND APPARENTLY THE FASTEST GROWING CITY IN BREVARD COUNTY. AND IT'S A VITAL SOCIAL AND PHYSICAL OUTLET FOR PALM BAY RESIDENTS OF ALL AGES, FROM YOUTH TO OUR SENIORS AND VETERANS. BUILDING THESE 6 TO 8 COURTS IN VETERANS PARK WILL NOT ONLY FULFILL A PROMISE MADE TO OUR CONSTITUENTS, BUT IT WILL ALSO TRANSFORM THE PARK INTO HUSTLING BUB, A HUSTLING HUB OF YOUTH HEALTH, WELLNESS AND COMMUNITY CONNECTION. THE DEMAND IS THERE, THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT IS OVERWHELMING AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE TAXPAYERS AND DEVELOPERS HAVE ALREADY PAID FOR IT. WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR NEW TAX OR BUDGET AMENDMENT. THE MONEY IS THERE. WE ARE SIMPLY ASKING FOR ACCOUNTABILITY, MOMENTUM AND UPDATES. TONIGHT, I RESPECTFULLY ASK THE COUNCIL TO DIRECT THE CITY STAFF TO PROVIDE A PUBLIC, DEFINITIVE UPDATE ON WHERE THIS PROJECT STANDS AND THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS. WHEN WILL THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS BE ISSUED, AND WHEN CAN THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY EXPECT TO SEE THE SHOVELS IN THE GROUND? LET'S GET THIS PROJECT MOVING AND FINALLY MAKE THESE COURTS A REALITY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR SERVICE TO OUR CITY. THANK YOU, MR. MENDEZ. THANK YOU. SO, MR. MENDEZ, I KNOW THAT OUR CITY MANAGER HAS TAKEN SOME NOTES DOWN, AND WE'LL GET BACK TO YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ROCHELLE. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS ROCHELLE. I LIVE IN UNIT 44, AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE LOSING 911 DISPATCHERS. I UNDERSTAND THAT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, THEY HAVE SOMETHING CALLED STAR OR SOMETHING THAT'S AN AUTOMATED RESPONSE AND IT SO WHEN YOU CALL, YOU'RE GOING TO GET. HELLO, WHAT'S YOUR EMERGENCY PRESS ONE FOR ENGLISH, EIGHT FOR SPANISH AND TWO FOR CRASHES. [01:15:06] I MEAN, THIS ISN'T GOOD. OUR CITY IS GROWING. I'VE LIVED HERE 33 YEARS IN THE SAME PLACE IN 33 YEARS. AND HERITAGE PARKWAY, WE'VE GOT ALL KINDS OF DEVELOPMENTS. WE NEED MORE POLICEMEN, WE NEED MORE FIREMEN. AND WE NEED THE 911 DISPATCHERS TO SUPPORT THOSE PEOPLE. AND WHEN SOMEBODY'S CALLING FOR 911, THEY'RE CRAZY. THEY'LL KNOW I'M BLEEDING, WHATEVER. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE WORRIED ABOUT PUSHING BUTTONS TO GET SOMEBODY. THEY'RE GOING TO BE SCREAMING AND THESE PEOPLE ARE OVERWHELMED. 150 I HEARD THAT LADY SAY 157,000 CALLS. THAT'S A LOT OF CALLS. THAT'S AS MANY AS THE WHOLE POPULATION OF PALM BAY. THAT IS A LOT OF PEOPLE. AND WE CANNOT BE CUTTING OUR CITY SERVICES TO OUR RESIDENTS. I DON'T WANT 911 TO GO AWAY. I WANT 911 TO BE MORE. I WANT POLICE TO BE MORE. I WANT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO BE MORE. TO CUT DOWN RESPONSE TIMES AND PROTECT OUR CITIZENS. THAT'S WHAT I WANT. I DON'T WANT YOU TO SEND THEM PEOPLE AWAY. WE NEED THEM. AND IF WE'RE GOING TO BE A GOOD CITY AND GROW LIKE CRAZY LIKE WE ARE, AND I'M HAPPY ABOUT THAT. THE MONEY SHOULD BE THERE. WE'RE PROSPERING. WE'RE WE'RE PROSPEROUS CITY AND WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO TO HAVE THESE PEOPLE TO PROTECT US. AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR ATTENTION. AND THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ROBERT. ROBERT STICE. GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL. ROBERT STEIN, 1796 WYNNEWOOD DRIVE, SOUTHEAST. I JUST HAVE THREE QUICK ITEMS HERE. I KNOW THIS IS NATIONAL SUICIDE PREVENTION MONTH, AND IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE I HAD AN APPOINTMENT AT THE VA ON MONDAY AND JUST SITTING THERE AND I'M STILL IN KOREAN WAR VETS ARE STILL AROUND. I THINK THE WORLD WAR TWO VETS ARE JUST ABOUT GONE NOW. BUT WHAT THESE GUYS HAVE WENT THROUGH AND HOW THEIR CONVERSATIONS THAT THEY HAVE FOR YOU, JUST HUMBLE ME DOWN. JUST HUMBLE ME RIGHT INTO MY, MY SHOES. AND THERE WAS A BIG SUPPORT GROUP IN THE FORUM WHEN YOU WHEN YOU COME INTO THE VIERA, VA AND YOU KNOW, I WAS REALLY ENGAGED BY, YOU KNOW, DO YOU KNOW SOMEBODY WHO MAY NEED SOME HELP? AND, AND I CHATTED WITH THEM. I KNOW SOMEBODY AROUND HOME DEPOT THAT HE'S A VETERAN. AND I SAID, I'LL TAKE YOU OFF THE STREET. AND OF COURSE, HE'S PROBABLY DOING DRUGS BECAUSE THEY WON'T TAKE YOU UNLESS YOU GET OFF THAT. BUT LET ME SEND YOU INFORMATION. I MEAN, THE AMOUNT OF VETERANS THAT WE LOSE. AND IT'S GREAT TO HEAR THE THE OTHER VETERAN CAME UP HERE AND CHAT ABOUT KIDNEY DISEASE, BUT IT'S IT'S A SERIOUS PROBLEM. AND YOU SEE WHAT THESE VETERANS HAVE BEEN THROUGH AND YOU HEAR WHAT KIND OF COMBAT THEY THEY'VE BEEN THROUGH AND FELT LIKE THE GOVERNMENT HAS YOU KNOW, WALKED AWAY FROM THEM. IT JUST, IT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY, BUT IT JUST HUMBLES HIM. IT JUST HUMBLES ME. AS FAR AS THE CAMERAS GO, I SEE BOTH SIDES OF IT. I KNOW IT IS A CRIME PREVENTION. THEY, YOU KNOW, GROW UP IN THAT AREA. IT'S ALL THROUGH NEW YORK CITY. IT'S IN TRENTON, IT'S IN CAMDEN, IT'S IN NEWARK. AND YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE SOMEBODY COMMITTING A CRIME AND ABLE TO EVADE POLICE, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO EVADE A POLICE RADIO. WHAT HAVE YOU. AND IF THEY HAVE THAT DUE DILIGENCE YOU KNOW, IT DOES, IT DOES PREVENT AND MINIMIZE SOME OF THE CRIME. I UNDERSTAND THE OTHER SIDE OF IT. IT'S KIND OF LIKE WE'RE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE HERE OR VERMONT THAT NOBODY WANTS BIG BROTHER LOOKING AT THEM. BUT GOD FORBID, IF IT WAS MY WIFE OR MY SON OR ANYBODY LIKE THAT HAVING TO DEAL WITH THAT AND BEING THAT YOU HAVE SO MUCH MONEY COMING IN, YOU KNOW, MY PASSION HAS ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT MAKE SURE WE FUND MEALS ON WHEELS BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF VETERANS THERE THAT WE DELIVER TO AND THEY CAN'T GET OUT. AND THERE ARE SOME TOUGH SHAPE. SO I JUST WANTED TO KEEP THAT ON YOUR RADAR AS WELL. THANK YOU ALL FOR WHAT YOU DID. WE'VE HAD A GREAT YEAR. HAVE A GOOD DAY. THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. BUTCHER END. GOOD EVENING. BUTCHER RAN 219 TRENTON AVENUE HERE IN PALM BAY. AS I CAN RECALL, EVEN SEVERAL MONTHS AGO OR RECENTLY, WE WERE INFORMED AS CITIZENS, IF WE HAVE A QUESTION TO THE COUNCIL THAT [01:20:05] WE WOULD BE RESPONDED TO WITHIN 48 HOURS. I'VE RECEIVED NO ANSWERS YET ON THE QUESTIONS THAT I ASKED AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING. NOTHING. NOT AN EMAIL, NOT NOTHING. THE BIG ITEMS I'M LOOKING FOR INFORMATION FOR IS HOW MUCH IS THIS GOING TO COST THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY WHEN OUR NINE OVER 11 MOVES TO BREVARD COUNTY? WHAT IS THAT SERVICE GOING TO COST US? IS OUR FEES GOING TO GO UP THAT WE'RE PAYING MONTHLY. AND HOW MANY ROLL OVER AND DROP CALLS OCCURRED DURING THE LAST, WE'LL SAY, SIX MONTHS. EVERYONE ELSE HAS TALKED EVERYTHING ABOUT THE NINE OVER 11 CENTERS. NO SENSE OF ME REPEATING IT. YOU GUYS HEAR WHAT THE CITIZENS ARE SAYING? I JUST HOPE YOU PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT THEY SAY. AND THEN YOU MENTIONED WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THE MEETING, READ THAT. SO I READ IT. THEN WE HAD A GENTLEMAN COME UP HERE FROM FORT PIERCE AND SPOKE. NO ONE CAUGHT IT. THEN ANOTHER ONE IS JUST PERSONAL TO ME. LARGE TREES THAT HANG OVER STREETS IN THE INNER COMMUNITIES. TWO LANE ROADS WHERE SCHOOL BUSSES, GARBAGE TRUCKS, MOVING TRUCKS, WHATEVER HAVE TO GO TO THE CENTER OF THE ROAD TO CLEAR THE TREE LIMBS. IS THAT THE CITIZENS OF ME, THE PROPERTY OWNER, OR IS IT THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY TO TRIM IT OVER THE ROADS? THANK YOU. THAT CONCLUDES THE CARDS, MAYOR. THAT CONCLUDES THE PUBLIC COMMENTS. OKAY, SO NOW WE'RE ON NEW BUSINESS. ITEM NUMBER TWO. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. SHE SAID SHE HAD. YOU HAD A PUBLIC COMMENT CARD? YES. DO YOU HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENTS CARD? NO. I MEAN, YOU CAN YOU CAN, YOU CAN, YOU CAN GO FILL ONE OUT IF YOU WANT. YEAH, SURE. SO I DID SUBMIT A CARD FOR BOTH PUBLIC COMMENT AND THE AGENDA ITEM. OKAY. STAND FAST. WHAT? MISS, WOULD YOU HAVE A SEAT RIGHT THERE FOR A SECOND TILL WE SQUARE THIS OUT, PLEASE. THIS GENTLEMAN SAYS HE HAD A PUBLIC COMMENTS CARD TO. WHAT'S THE GENTLEMAN'S NAME? WHAT'S YOUR NAME, SIR? JAMES. SCHWARTZ. SCHWARTZ. SCHWARTZ. SCHWARTZ. JAMES. SCHWARTZ. LOST IN THE SHUFFLE. I'M NOT SURE, SIR. STAND FAST, STAND FAST. I HAVE KRISTEN FOR A NEW BUSINESS. TWO. OH, I GOT JIM SCHWARTZ FOR NEW BUSINESS TWO. OKAY, WE'RE ABOUT TO GO INTO THAT ITEM NOW. I'M SORRY. WE'RE WE'RE ABOUT TO GO INTO THAT ITEM RIGHT NOW. JAMES, I CAN'T I DON'T HAVE ONE. DO YOU WANT TO FILL ONE OUT REAL QUICK? YEAH. NO, GO. COME ON AND SPEAK, MA'AM. AND THEN YOU'LL JUST FILL ONE OUT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'LL HAVE MORE COMMENTS ON THE FLOCK SITUATION, BUT I WILL LEAVE THOSE FOR THE DISCUSSION. I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY A COUPLE OF THINGS REGARDING THE FLOCK SUSPENSION. AND FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT FLOCK IS THE OPERATING SYSTEM. FALCON IS THE BLACK CAMERAS WITH THE SOLAR PANELS AND CONDORS ARE THE WHITE AND BLACK PAN TILT ZOOM CAMERAS WITH THE DOMES. TOGETHER, THEY CREATE A SURVEILLANCE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT RAISES PRIVACY AND CONSTITUTIONAL CONCERNS. FLORIDA'S CONSTITUTION PROTECTS FLORIDIANS AGAINST UNREASONABLE SEARCHES AND SEIZURES, AND THE U.S. SUPREME COURT HAS RECOGNIZED PROLONGED DIGITAL TRACKING CAN RAISE FOURTH AMENDMENT CONCERNS. MY QUESTION ABOUT THE SUSPENSION IS WILL THE FLOCK AND CONDOR CAMERAS BE PHYSICALLY HOODED THIS TIME? LAST TIME IT WAS JUST THE FALCON CAMERAS, AND CAN THEY OTHERWISE BE RENDERED INCAPABLE OF COLLECTING DATA DURING THE SUSPENSION UNTIL COUNCIL HAS MADE A DECISION, OR UNTIL THE STATE ISSUES FURTHER, FURTHER GUIDANCE? BECAUSE IF THE SYSTEM IS SUSPENDED OUTSIDE OF THE OFFICERS BEING LOCKED OUT OF THE SYSTEM, RESIDENTS DESERVE TO KNOW WHETHER THE CAMERAS THEMSELVES ARE STILL ACTUALLY CAPABLE OF COLLECTING DATA. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UNDER PUBLIC COMMENTS. MAYOR. THAT'S IT. OKAY. SO THOSE THOSE THIS GENTLEMAN HAS HIS HAND RAISED, BUT. I DIDN'T HEAR MY NAME CALLED. ALL RIGHT, SIR. DID YOU FILL OUT A CARD FOR NEW BUSINESS? NEW BUSINESS NUMBER TWO. I PUT DOWN A NUMBER OF THINGS I'D LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO PUT IT UNDER. WHAT'S YOUR NAME, SIR? WHAT'S WHAT? WHAT'S YOUR NAME, SIR? DANIEL POTTER, DO YOU HAVE A DANIEL? [01:25:09] THREE. 13 NAMES. NEW BUSINESS. ITEM NUMBER TWO. MAYOR. OKAY. YOU'LL YOU'LL BE YOU'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WHEN WHEN WE WE'RE ABOUT TO HIT THAT ITEM RIGHT NOW. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE NOW ON NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER TWO. COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON. YES, MAYOR. I CAN SPEAK NOW, OR I CAN GIVE IT TO THE PUBLIC. IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME. GO AHEAD, GO AHEAD. YOU'RE INTRODUCED. YOU'RE RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. AND I APPRECIATE FOR COUNCIL FOR ENGAGING IN THIS DISCUSSION WE'VE SEEN WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON OVER THE PAST YEAR IN REGARDS TO THIS DISCUSSION, BOTH LOCALLY WITHIN OUR CHAMBERS NATIONALLY, OUR OWN GOVERNOR HAS MADE A STANCE ON IT. OUR OWN SHERIFF HAS MADE A STANCE ON IT. A LOT OF RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN VERY VOCAL ON THEIR STANCE ON IT. AND SUSPENSION ONLY MEANS SUSPENSION. IT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S PERMANENT. IT MEANS IT'S FOR A TIME UNTIL ANOTHER CERTAIN TIME. SO MY ASK OR MY WILL, I GUESS IN REGARDS TO HAVING THIS CONVERSATION, THIS DISCUSSION WITH COUNCIL IS MAKING IT CLEAR ON IF WE'RE GOING TO DO ONE OF THREE THINGS. ONE, ARE WE GOING TO DO NOTHING? TWO, ARE WE GOING TO GIVE THE CITY MANAGER DIRECTION FOR THE TERMINATION OF THE CONTRACT WITH FLOC OR THREE. ARE WE GOING TO GO INTO. WE'RE NOT GOING TO FUND THE FLOCK. WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO INTO THE FUNDING OF FLOCK BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY BEEN PAID UP FOR THIS YEAR, WHICH IS EITHER MARCH OR MAY. I'M WAITING FOR CITY ATTORNEY TO CONFIRM THAT DATE. SO THE CAMERAS ARE ALREADY FUNDED UP UNTIL THE DATE OF MARCH OR MAY. SO TO ME, FOR ME, IT'S ONLY TWO OPTIONS. IT'S EITHER, ARE WE GOING TO JUST NOT FUND IT FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR? OR ARE WE GOING TO TERMINATE TERMINATE IT EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY? SO THAT'S THE DISCUSSION I'M LOOKING TO HAVE WITH COUNCIL. I WANT TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC WHERE THEIR STANCE IS, AND WE CAN TAKE IT FROM THERE. OKAY. SO FIRST SPEAKER IS DEPUTY MAYOR JOHN MAGEE. THANK YOU, JOHN MAGEE. 1991 THORNWOOD DRIVE, BAYSIDE LAKES. I SPENT OVER 20 YEARS WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES, BOTH IN THE US AND INTERNATIONALLY, WORKING WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES. OUR COMPANY, MOTOROLA SOLUTIONS, PROVIDED ADVANCED INTEGRATED TECHNOLOGY PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS NETWORKS TO THOUSANDS OF PUBLIC SAFETY AGENCIES AND POLICE AGENCIES. WE WERE NEVER REPEAT, NEVER INVOLVED IN THE DAILY OPERATIONS OF POLICING AGENCIES. WE PROVIDED THE NETWORKS, THE TECHNICAL AND OPERATIONAL TRAINING AND SERVICE SUPPORT SMART POLICING COLLECT TECHNOLOGY GIVES POLICE OFFICERS FAR MORE INFORMATION THROUGH COMMUNICATIONS DEVICES THAN EVER BEFORE. SO WHILE THESE AGENCIES WANT MORE TECHNOLOGY TOOLS TO USE, WHICH THEY DO REQUIRE, WE ALSO NEED TO PROTECT THE RIGHTS OF THE CITIZENS. I WILL NOT READ THE FOURTH AMENDMENT TO THE US CONSTITUTION. I THINK YOU CAN READ THAT FOR YOURSELVES. BUT IT IS INEXPLICABLY SPECIFIC IN WHAT GOVERNMENT IS ALLOWED TO DO. THERE ARE MODELS IN OTHER STATES CONCERNING THE USE OF FLOCK CAMERAS, SUCH AS REMOVING POLE MOUNTED CAMERAS AND ESTABLISHING THE CAMERAS SPECIFICALLY IN POLICE VEHICLES, AND HE PLAYED SCAN THAT DOES NOT MATCH AN ACTIVE STOLEN VEHICLE OR AN AMBER ALERT OR FELONY WARRANT MUST BE PERMANENTLY DELETED WITHIN THREE MINUTES. NO PASSENGER OR FACE SCREENING IS ALLOWED FROM ANY OF THE CAMERAS, AND THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE THAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS NO COMMERCIAL COMPANY IS ALLOWED TO OPERATE SURVEILLANCE NETWORKS, HOARDING CITIZENS MOVEMENTS, MONETIZING DATABASES, OR HAVING ACCESS TO THOSE DATABASES. THEY SHOULD BE LIMITED TO VENDOR STATUS ONLY. SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT IF YOU PROCEED WITH THE ACQUISITION OR THE CONTINUATION OF THIS PROGRAM, YOU MUST BE AWARE THAT ALL THE DATA THAT'S COLLECTED MUST BE REMAINED WITHIN THE CITY'S PURVIEW, AND THAT NO PRIVATE COMPANY SHOULD EVER HAVE ACCESS TO THAT INFORMATION ON EITHER AN INDIVIDUAL OR THE ENTIRE DATABASE. THEY CAN USE IT TO SELL IT TO OTHER COMPANIES THAT WILL THEN ACQUIRE PERSONAL INFORMATION, WHICH THE CITIZENS IS DO NOT WANT. THAT IS A VIOLATION OF THE FOURTH AMENDMENT. SO WHILE I SUPPORT TECHNOLOGY FOR POLICING AND THE 911 SYSTEM ALSO. BUT WHILE I SUPPORT TECHNOLOGY FOR POLICING AND THE DEMAND FOR THE. [01:30:02] THAT IS PLACED ON OUR POLICE, I WANT YOU TO BE AWFULLY AWARE THAT THE CITIZEN'S RIGHTS COME BEFORE YOURS. SO IF THERE IS NOT. IF THERE IS AN AGREEMENT THAT THE CITY. SOME OF THOSE SPECIFIC OPERATIONAL CRITERIA. I WOULD AGREE IF YOU DO NOT KNOW MORE. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. HANDLE. HUMPHREY. GOOD EVENING. COUNCILMAN HUMPHREY, 1183 RAUL STREET, SOUTHEAST. SO I WANT TO MAKE THIS CLEAR. AND I DON'T WANT TO DEFLECT HERE BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF DEFLECTION THAT COMES FROM OPPOSING THOSE WHO OPPOSE THE RIGHTS OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS INSTANCE. THIS IS ABOUT THE FOURTH AMENDMENT. OKAY. THIS FOR THE FOURTH AMENDMENT FORBIDS UNREASONABLE SEARCHES, WARRANTLESS CITYWIDE SEARCHES, AND TRACKING WHERE PEOPLE MOVE. THAT IS A WARRANTLESS SEARCH, USING AI SURVEILLANCE TECH TO MAP THIS DATA AND COMPILE IT INTO DATABASES FOR THIRD PARTIES TO ACCESS. THIS IS ALL AN ENCROACHMENT ON THE FOURTH AMENDMENT, AND THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE. EVEN IF THIS HAS TO DO WITH SAFETY, THERE ARE MANY THINGS THAT HAVE TO DO WITH SAFETY, RIGHT? WE COULD ALL WEAR BUBBLE WRAP OUTSIDE. WE COULD PUT POLICE CHECKPOINTS IN EVERY CORNER. THOSE THINGS WOULD IMPROVE SAFETY, BUT THEY THEY WOULDN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. AND IN THIS IN THIS INSTANCE, SAFETY DOES NOT NEGATE THE FOURTH AMENDMENT RIGHT THAT WE HAVE. THE PEOPLE HAVE. SO THIS REALLY HAS TO DO WITH. ARE YOU GUYS GOING TO TREAT THE FOURTH AMENDMENT AS IF IT'S NOT RELEVANT ANYMORE? OR ARE YOU GOING TO HONOR IT AS PART OF YOUR DUTY AND YOUR OATH? AS CITY COUNCILMAN, AS A MAYOR, YOU'RE WORKING TO UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION. SO I WANT TO REMIND YOU ALL THAT YOU HAVE A DUTY BEFORE GOD. GOD HIMSELF GIVES YOU AUTHORITY, RIGHTFUL AUTHORITY TO PUNISH WRONG AND REWARD GOOD. AND IF YOU START TO PUNISH GOOD PEOPLE, THAT'S SUBVERTING OF YOUR AUTHORITY. AND I WOULD SAY RECORDING SOMEONE WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT CAN BE INTERPRETED HOSTILE. MANY TIMES IF I WERE TO TAKE MY PHONE, IT'S NOT RECORDING AND JUST POINT IT AT PEOPLE. NO ONE LIKES THAT. NO ONE APPRECIATES THAT. AND SO HAVING THESE CAMERAS POSTED EVERYWHERE, OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE DRAWING HOSTILE REACTIONS BECAUSE IT IS VIEWED AS HOSTILE. NOW, I DO FEEL THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT HAS A HEAVY BURDEN, BUT WHEN THEY'RE STATIONED OUT THERE, I DO FEEL SAFE WHEN I SEE THEM STATIONED IN THEIR CARS. THAT GIVES A SENSE OF SAFETY BECAUSE WE KNOW THERE'S A PERSON IN THERE. WE KNOW THERE'S SOMEONE WHO'S ACCOUNTABLE, SOMEONE MAKING CHOICES THAT HAS A MIND. AN AI SURVEILLANCE NETWORK THAT PROVIDES ALL THIS DATA IS, IS NAMELESS, FACELESS, AND IS, IS COLD. AND PHONES ARE NOT AN EXCUSE. THESE ARE OPTIONAL. WE CARRY OUR PHONES WITH US. THERE'S TERMS AND CONDITIONS, AND WHEN GOOGLE AND APPLE BREAK THEM, THEY ALSO GET PUNISHED. GOOGLE PAID TEXAS 1.37 BILLION FOR DOING LOCATION TRACKING WITHOUT PERMISSION. SO I WOULD SAY TRY TO MAKE A SANCTUARY, A SANCTUARY ORDINANCE TO PROTECT PALM BAY FROM ACTS ON FLOCK AND VARIOUS THIRD PARTY SURVEILLANCE. AND YOU MAY FIND YOURSELF WINNING A LAWSUIT AND BRINGING MORE FUNDS THAN EVER. IF THEY CONTINUE TO DO THE SURVEILLANCE, YOU COULD BRING IN MORE FUNDS THAN EVER TO THE CITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, CALEB HALL. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, CITY COUNCILMAN. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. MY NAME IS CALEB HALL. MY FAMILY AND I MOVED FROM PALM BAY, MOVED TO PALM BAY FROM TEXAS TWO YEARS AGO. I'M HERE TODAY TO VOICE MY CONCERNS ABOUT FLOCK CAMERAS AND OTHER ALPR DEVICES AND TO SAY THAT I AM IN. I AM FOR THE COMPLETE TERMINATION OF FLOCK AND FOR FUTURE SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY IN PALM BAY. RONALD REAGAN CALLED THESE NINE WORDS THE MOST TERRIFYING WORDS IN THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE. I AM FROM THE GOVERNMENT AND I'M HERE TO HELP. THIS QUOTE IS NOT ANTI-GOVERNMENT SENTIMENT, BUT RATHER REFLECTS A SKEPTICISM TOWARD BIG GOVERNMENT AND EMPHASIZES THAT PERSONAL FREEDOM REQUIRES LIMITED GOVERNMENT POWER. WE HAVE ALL SEEN DURING THE 2020 COVID PANDEMIC HOW IF YOU GIVE AN INCH, THEY'LL TAKE A MILE. WHEN 15 DAYS TO SLOW THE SPREAD QUICKLY GAVE WAY TO MASK MANDATES, CURFEWS, VACCINE MANDATES AND FULL BLOWN LOCKDOWNS. THIS IS A VERY SERIOUS MATTER, AND I ASK THAT YOU ALL TREAT IT AS AS THAT. [01:35:02] IN FACT, THIS MATTER SPAWNS ACROSS SPANS, ACROSS ALL POLITICAL PARTIES. AS THESE EXAMPLES, I GIVE GOVERNOR RON DESANTIS, A REPUBLICAN, STATED THAT AUTOMATED LICENSE PLATE READERS HAVE GOTTEN OUT OF CONTROL AND THAT THE PEOPLE ARE RIGHT TO BE CONCERNED. HE ADDED THAT HE WON'T. THAT I DON'T WANT IT TO BE IN A SITUATION WHERE THESE TECH COMPANIES AND A HANDFUL OF TECH COMPANIES KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT YOU AND WHERE YOU'RE GOING. TEXAS AGRICULTURAL COMMISSION COMMISSIONER SAID. MILLER, ALSO REPUBLICAN, SAID NO LAW ABIDING CITIZEN SHOULD EVER ENTER A DIGITAL LINEUP WHENEVER HE DRIVES ON A PUBLIC ROAD. NO MOTHER SHOULD WONDER WHETHER HER SCHOOL ROOM IS IN A GOVERNMENT DATABASE. CALIFORNIA REPRESENTATIVE ADAM SCHIFF, DEMOCRAT, STRONGLY CAUTIONED AGAINST UNREGULATED TRACKING OF ORDINARY CITIZENS MOVEMENTS, STATING THAT THE CURRENT SURVEILLANCE NETWORK IS NOT CONSTITUTIONAL. SO THOSE ARE JUST A FEW. BUT IN SUMMARY, MY FAMILY AND I MOVED HERE BECAUSE WE LOVE THE BEACHES. WE LOVE THE PALM TREES AND THE FREEDOM THAT FLORIDA ENJOYS. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT FREEDOM PRESERVED AS I KNOW YOU DO TOO. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. DESTINY HALL. HI, MY NAME IS DESTINY HALL, 1378 SAN CORTEZ. I'M MARRIED TO THAT COWBOY BACK THERE. I STAND HERE GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY AND FOR THE FREEDOM TO BE ABLE TO COME HERE AND SPEAK TO YOU GUYS. I'M APPRECIATIVE THAT Y'ALL ACTUALLY WANT US TO BE HERE TO ENGAGE IN THESE CONVERSATIONS. OUR NATIONS HAVE BEEN BUILT ON VARIOUS DEBATES, SPEECHES, AND CONVERSATIONS, AND I'M GRATEFUL FOR THE TRADITION. AND I ALSO WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO COUNCILMAN KENNY JOHNSON FOR POSTING ON SOCIAL MEDIA INVITING US TO COME HERE TONIGHT. THIS IS A GREAT START IN BUILDING TRUST AND HONESTY WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY. I'M GRATEFUL. AS MANY STANDING HERE, I'VE BEEN BLESSED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE EXPERIENCED LIFE WITHOUT TECHNOLOGY. LOTS OF HOURS SPENT PLAYING OUTSIDE, STARRY NIGHTS, PLAYING BLINDMAN'S BUFF WITH MY FRIENDS, GOING ON LONG WALKS AND HIDING IN DITCHES AS CARS DRIVE BY. I WAS 18 WHEN I GOT MY FIRST PHONE AND THAT WAS VERY USEFUL. I WAS ABLE TO TEXT OR CALL IF I HAD A FLAT TIRE, OR LET A FRIEND KNOW I WAS RUNNING LATE. AND THAT WAS AWESOME. BUT AS AN ADULT AND PARENT, NOW I AM WITNESSING OUR CULTURE AND STATE SHIFTING IN REGARDS TO TECHNOLOGY. AND I HAVE READ ENOUGH HISTORY BOOKS TO UNDERSTAND THAT I DO HAVE CAUSE TO BE CONCERNED FOR MY CHILDREN'S FUTURE. I REALIZE THE TOPIC FOR TONIGHT'S FLOCK CAMERAS, BUT TO BE CLEAR, THIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT FLOCK. FLOCK IS NOT THE REAL PROBLEM. IT IS JUST A PIECE. IT JUST HAPPENED TO BE THE SYSTEM THAT GOT EXPOSED. IT THANKFULLY WENT VIRAL AND RIGHTFULLY HAS CAUSED A NATIONAL UPROAR. HOWEVER, THERE ARE NUMEROUS OTHER SYSTEMS LIKE IT IN THE LINEUP TO BE IMPLEMENTED. FLOCK IS MERELY THE CRUDE AND UGLY VISUAL OF SOMETHING LARGER THAT IS ATTEMPTING TO UNFOLD IN OUR BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY. THIS IS A TECHNOCRACY THAT HAS BEEN GRADUALLY BUILDING FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS, A SYSTEM WHERE PEOPLE COULD BE GOVERNED BY ALGORITHMS AND NOT REPRESENTATIVES. THIS HAS BEEN ROLLING OUT SLOWLY OVER TIME TO ENGINEER AND TRAIN US TO BE A PASSIVE AND DOCILE PEOPLE. BUT WE ARE NOT THAT. THOUGH WE ARE PASSIONATE, DIVERSE AND A FREE PEOPLE, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, NOT ONE NATION UNDER SURVEILLANCE. IT IS RIGHTEOUSNESS THAT EXALTS A NATION, NOT THE NATION WHO HAS THE MOST CONTROL OVER ITS PEOPLE. WHILE FLOCK CAMERAS HAVE BEEN MARKETED AS BEING A TOOL TO PREVENT AND STOP CRIMES, AND I'M SURE IN A LOT OF CASES IT HAS DONE THAT. WE ARE ALSO SEEING THAT IS BEING USED FOR WAY MORE THAN THAT. IT IS A FRAGILE TOOL THAT IN THE WRONG HANDS BECOMES A TERRIFYING WEAPON. I FIRMLY AGREE WITH DESANTIS WHEN HE SAID, INSTEAD OF ASKING, HOW IS THIS HELPFUL? WE SHOULD ALSO ASK, HOW COULD THIS BE ABUSED IN THIS SITUATION? THE BENEFITS DON'T OUTWEIGH THE RISK BECAUSE WE CAN'T GUARANTEE WHO WILL BE USING THIS. LEADERSHIP CHANGES, AND WE CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT THIS TECHNOLOGY WILL STAY IN THE HANDS OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE OUR BEST INTEREST AT HEART. EVEN MORE CONCERNING, WHAT INDIVIDUALS CAN DO IS THAT THE WHOLE SYSTEM CREATES AN OPPORTUNITY THAT, IF FULLY OPERATIONAL, WOULD SEND AMERICA INTO A STATE OF TOTALITARIANISM AND DICTATORSHIP, WHICH, IRONICALLY, IS THE VERY THING OUR NATION HAS BATTLED FOR YEARS TO AVOID. FROM THE 1600S, WHEN THE PILGRIMS LEFT TYRANNY TO 1776, WHERE WE FOUGHT AGAIN. I'M SORRY. PLEASE REMOVE AND BAN THEM. I HAVE BOYS WHO NEED. THANK YOU. EXAMPLES OF MEN WHO WILL STAND STRONG AND FIGHT FOR THEM. NEXT SPEAKER. THANK YOU. TINA WALLACE. [01:40:05] GENTLEMEN, MY NAME IS SHEENA WALLACE. I LIVE HERE IN PALM BAY IN CASE ANYBODY WANTS TO KNOW WHERE I LIVE. ALL RIGHT. ANYWAY WHEN MY FAMILY FIRST CAME TO THIS COUNTRY, THEY RISKED THEIR LIVES TO DO SO. AND WHEN THEY FIRST STEPPED FOOT ON THIS LAND, THERE WERE NO ROADS, THERE WERE NO HOMES. THEY BEGAN THE HARD PROCESS OF BUILDING THIS NATION LONG BEFORE THERE WAS 13 COLONIES. AND THEY DID THIS FOR THE SOLE REASON THAT THEY HAD A BURNING DESIRE TO LIVE IN FREEDOM. ADDITIONAL MEMBERS OF MY FAMILY CAME TO THIS COUNTRY LATER, ALL FOR THE SAME REASON FREEDOM. OVER THE CENTURIES, MY FAMILY HAS REPEATEDLY TAKEN AN OATH TO THIS NATION, MOST RECENTLY TO SUPPORT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AGAINST ALL ENEMIES, FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC. WE WILLINGLY FOUGHT TO DEFEND THIS NATION AND TO FREE PEOPLE WE HAD NEVER EVEN MET. AT TIMES AGAINST OUR OWN COUNTRY, BECAUSE WE KNEW THE IMPORTANCE OF LIVING IN FREEDOM FOR EVERY MAN, WOMAN AND CHILD. MY FAMILY HAS GIVEN OUR BLOOD, SWEAT AND TEARS, OUR LIMBS AND EVEN OUR LIVES. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YOU AND ME IS THAT IT DIDN'T TAKE ME FIVE YEARS TO REALIZE THE PROBLEM WITH THE CITY INSTALLING A TYRANNICAL GOVERNMENT SURVEILLANCE STATE AND PUTTING IN THE FUNDAMENTAL REQUIREMENTS TO INSTALL A COMMUNISTIC CONTROL SYSTEM. AND DOING SO WITHOUT THE AUTHORITY OR EVEN A PUBLIC DISCUSSION. THE ONLY MISCONCEPTIONS IN REGARDS TO FLOCK ARE THE LIES AND DECEPTIONS FROM FLOCK THEMSELVES AND ECHOED THROUGH THIS CITY. WHILE THE CEO OF FLOCK CALLS THE PEOPLE WANTING TO KNOW THE LOCATION OF THE CAMERAS TO SUPPOSEDLY TAMPER WITH THEM TERRORISTS. YOU MAY CALL THEM VANDALS. IT ALSO MEETS THE DEFINITION OF OPEN REVOLT AGAINST YOU, THE GOVERNMENT. THE NERVE YOU PLUCKED WITH THESE CAMERAS CANNOT BE UNPLUCKED. I STILL HONOR THE SACRIFICES MADE FOR THIS COUNTRY AND THE DESIRE TO LIVE IN FREEDOM, BECAUSE IT'S STILL COURSING THROUGH MY VEINS. AND I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE. WHILE FOR SOME, THE DESIRE OF FREEDOM MAY BE DYING, EMBERS KNOW THIS FREEDOM IS THE FOUNDATION OF THIS COUNTRY. IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN, AND IT ALWAYS WILL BE. LONG BEFORE MY FAMILY. EVEN BEFORE MY FAMILY ARRIVED, THE NATIVE AMERICANS LIVED ON THIS LAND FOR THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS OF YEARS IN FREEDOM. FREEDOM IS INGRAINED IN OUR LAND. IT IS IN OUR BLOOD. IT IS IN OUR DNA. EVERY SOUL THAT IS IN THIS ROOM HAS A FAMILY MEMBER. AT SOME POINT IN THE PAST THAT YEARNED FOR FREEDOM. UNFORTUNATELY, EVEN FROM OUR OWN GOVERNMENT, JUST AS SOME SOME OF US DO TODAY. GENTLEMEN, THE BURNING EMBERS OF FREEDOM ARE NOT DEAD. YOU'RE FANNING THE FLAMES AND REIGNITING THEM A FEW MORE EACH DAY WITH THESE CAMERAS AS THEY STAND. AND FOR THAT, I ACTUALLY THANK YOU. TONIGHT, GENTLEMEN, I ASK YOU TO PLEASE TAKE AN EMERGENCY VOTE AND END THIS CONTRACT ONCE AND FOR ALL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. LAURA. HIRSCH. HARRIS. GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL. I THANK YOU. JOHN JOHNSON, FOR MAKING THIS OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THIS VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE HERE. AND ONE OF MY ROLES IN THE COMMUNITY IS I'M A TEACHER RIGHT NOW. I'M TEACHING IMPROV THEATER. AND A PHILOSOPHY OF THAT IS, YES. AND SO I'M GOING TO SAY SO MANY OF MY FELLOW RESIDENTS HAVE SAID SO MUCH THAT I, I COULDN'T SAY BETTER, BUT THERE ARE A FEW THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO AND, AND ADD TO. AND SOMETHING I REALLY LIKE TO DO IS LOOK AT THE WISDOM THAT'S COME BEFORE BECAUSE I THINK THEY SAY IT SO WELL AND SO ELOQUENTLY. SO I WANT TO SHARE A FEW QUOTES THAT ECHO MY SUPPORT FOR NOT SUPPORTING THE FLOCK CAMERAS AND POLICE SURVEILLANCE STATE. ONE IS A QUOTE FROM PHILOSOPHER GEORGE SANTAYANA. THOSE WHO CANNOT REMEMBER THE PAST ARE CONDEMNED TO REPEAT IT. [01:45:03] AND HAVING READ MANY BOOKS LIKE 1984 BY GEORGE ORWELL OR OH, THERE'S SO MANY BOOKS, ARTICLES, CONVERSATIONS BY PEOPLE WHO HAVE LIVED IN STATES THAT ARE. HAVE GONE THROUGH WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO PREVENT. I THINK IT'S AN EARLY, IT'S A WARNING ALSO. SUPREME COURT JUSTICE WILLIAM O. DOUGLAS SAID AS NIGHTFALL DOES NOT COME ALL AT ONCE, NEITHER DOES OPPRESSION IN BOTH INSTANCES. THERE'S A TWILIGHT WHEN EVERYTHING REMAINS SEEMINGLY UNCHANGED, AND IT IS IN THE TWILIGHT, WHICH IS WHERE I THINK WE ARE, THAT WE ALL MUST BE AWARE OF THE CHANGE IN THE AIR, HOWEVER SLIGHT, LEST WE BECOME UNWITTING VICTIMS OF THE DARKNESS. SO I FEEL LIKE WE'RE AT A POINT, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU, EVEN THOUGH SOMETIMES I FEEL LIKE I'VE NOT AGREED WITH SOME THINGS I HAVE SEEN YOU ALL STAND UP TO. AND I ASK YOU TO PLEASE DO THE RIGHT THING. PRESERVE OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS, PRESERVE OUR FREEDOMS. I THINK THERE ARE OTHER WAYS THAT WE CAN SUPPORT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO, TO DO THEIR WORK AND PROTECT OUR CITIZENS ON A LOCAL BASIS, AND ALSO A NATIONAL BASIS AND A GLOBAL BASIS. THIS IS A VERY LARGE ISSUE, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, DANIEL COTTERMAN. HOW Y'ALL DOING? CHINA. RUSSIA. APPRECIATE YOU ALL GETTING THE CAMERAS FOR US. I REALLY WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT. I SEEN ON TIKTOK A GENTLEMAN GO ON THERE AND HE MADE A LITTLE VIDEO THAT HE WOULD LIKE TO PUT THOSE CAMERAS AND EVERY ONE OF Y'ALL'S OFFICES, THAT GUY, WHICH I THINK WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA. OKAY. WE COULD USE SOME MORE, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GETTING THE INPUT INPUT FROM OUR CITIZENS HERE, SHOWING YOU JUST HOW MUCH WE DO NOT LIKE YOUR DECISION ABOUT WANTING TO KEEP THOSE FLOCK CAMERAS. ALL RIGHT. MAYBE UPGRADING SOME MORE. AND I THINK YOU REALLY OUGHT TO LISTEN TO THEM. OKAY. I DON'T WORRY ABOUT SURVEILLANCE THAT MUCH. I'M A LAW ABIDING CITIZEN. OKAY, SO THAT DOESN'T REALLY BOTHER ME. MY INFORMATION BEING OUT THERE, I'M NOT EVEN WORRIED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE WE'VE HAD ALL OF OUR BANKING INSTITUTIONS, THE WALL STREET STOCK EXCHANGE, THEY'VE ALL BEEN HACKED. SO MY INFORMATION AND EVERYBODY IN HERE HAS ALREADY BEEN PUT OUT THERE. SO AS FAR AS MY LICENSE PLATE, I AIN'T WORRIED ABOUT THAT. BUT WHEN YOU SPEND MONEY WITHOUT ASKING US, OKAY. WHEN WE NEED MORE POLICE OFFICERS, ANOTHER POLICE STATION, MORE FIRE TRUCKS, MORE FIRE PEOPLE. THOSE PEOPLE NEED A RAISE EVEN. AND YOU SPEND THIS MONEY? COME ON, MAN, GIVE ME A BREAK. JUST GIVE ME A BREAK. LISTEN TO THESE PEOPLE, RIGHT? THEY'RE ASKING YOU TO DO YOUR JOB. OKAY. SPEND THEIR MONEY WISELY, RIGHT? IF I VOTED AGAINST EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU. AND HERE YOU ARE STILL AGAIN. LORD HAVE MERCY. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. CHRISTINE JOHNSON. THREE MINUTES IS NOT ENOUGH TIME. CHRISTINE JOHNSON, RESIDENT OF NORTHWEST PALM BAY THANK YOU, MR. JOHNSON, FOR GETTING THIS CONTRACT ON THE AGENDA. AND THANK YOU TO MR. JAFFE AND MR. LANGEVIN FOR THE SUPPORT. I'D LIKE TO START WITH THE MAY 21ST PRESENTATION. THE SUSPENSIONS TWICE IN 27 DAYS. AND NOW THIS CONVERSATION HAVE ALL BEEN TOUTED UNDER THE GUISE OF TRANSPARENCY. BUT AS A RESIDENT WHO HAS SPENT THE LAST TWO YEARS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THIS SYSTEM, I THINK WE HAVE A DIFFERENT DEFINITION OF WHAT TRANSPARENCY IS, BECAUSE THIS PROCESS HAS BEEN ABOUT AS TRANSPARENT AS THE CITY MANAGEMENT'S NEWLY FROSTED WINDOWS. IN JANUARY 2025, I SENT MY FIRST EMAIL TO THE PALM BAY POLICE DEPARTMENT ASKING ABOUT THE CAMERAS AND FELL DOWN A RABBIT HOLE. THEY DIRECTED ME TO THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, WHO INFORMED ME THEY WERE FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT. THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT TOLD ME TO CONTACT PALM BAY POLICE DEPARTMENT, SO I CIRCLED BACK TO PALM BAY FOR A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST ON THE FLOCK CAMERAS AND FOUND THEY WERE APPROVED AUGUST 2021 VIA THE CONSENT AGENDA. NOBODY REALLY KNEW. I STARTED DIGGING THROUGH THE ARCHIVES AND REACHED OUT TO YOU ALL CITY COUNCIL. SINCE THEN, I'VE SHOWN UP AND ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS CONTRACT 13 TIMES NOW WHILE PIECING TOGETHER PUBLIC RECORDS BECAUSE REQUESTING IT ALL AT ONCE GENERATED FEES THAT I [01:50:09] COULD NOT AFFORD TO PAY. SPEAKING OF PAYING, WHAT'S THE ACTUAL COST TO TAXPAYERS? HERE ARE SOME OF THE RECEIPTS WE HAVE. IN SEPTEMBER 2021, THE INITIAL 17 FLOCK CAMERAS PURCHASED FOR $42,500. THEN, IN MARCH 2022, NEARLY $25,000 ON CAMERAS. PER THE CONTRACT, BEGINNING IN 2023, THE $42,500 ANNUAL PAYMENT SHIFTED FROM THE LAW ENFORCEMENT FUND TO THE GENERAL FUND, AKA TAXPAYER DOLLARS. THEN, OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, THERE HAVE BEEN ADDITIONAL OUTGOING PAYMENTS BETWEEN 500 AND $800 FOR REPLACEMENTS OF POLES AND CAMERAS. I DOCUMENTED THE DOCUMENTED TOTAL I WAS ABLE TO CALCULATE GIVES US A PARTIAL TOTAL OF $113,000. THAT DOES NOT REFLECT THE YEARLY PAYMENTS AFTER 2023, WHEN THOSE. AS THOSE RECORDS WERE NOT PROVIDED, NOR ARE THERE CONDOR OR THE CONDORS OR ADDITIONAL CAMERAS ACCOUNTED FOR, MEANING THE ACTUAL COST REMAINS UNCLEAR. MY ESTIMATIONS PUT THE ACTUAL COST UPWARDS OF A QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS, FUNDING THAT COULD HAVE GONE TO SERVICES AND THAT RESIDENTS ACTUALLY WANT AND UTILIZE, LIKE KEEPING THE PALM BAY AQUATIC CENTER OPEN. BUT I DIGRESS. SPEAKING OF UNCLEAR DETAILS, MANY RESIDENTS OR HOW MANY CAMERAS, SORRY, HOW MANY CAMERAS ARE UNDER THE CONTRACT FOR PALM BAY? WE WERE TOLD 17. YET THE PRESENTATION MAP SHOWED MORE THAN THAT. MY RECORD REQUEST TO CLARIFY SAID THAT THERE WERE ONLY 17. THEN SUDDENLY 51 WERE IDENTIFIED IN MEDIA REPORTS AFTER THE FIRST SUSPENSION. THE FACT THAT THESE NUMBERS DON'T ALIGN IS A PROBLEM. FOR TWO YEARS, I'VE RAISED CONCERNS. THESE AREN'T HYPOTHETICAL CONCERNS. THERE'S OVER 100 DOCUMENTED CASES ACROSS FLORIDA AND THE NATION. SELECTIVE INTERNAL AUDITING IS LAUGHABLE. THE DROP DOWN LIST AND CASE NUMBERS ARE NOT SUFFICIENT SAFEGUARDS. THE APPROVAL AND IMPLEMENTATION HAS BEEN CLANDESTINE, AND THERE SHOULD BE NO QUESTION TONIGHT WHETHER PALM BAY SHOULD END THIS CONTRACT. DO THE RIGHT THING, TERMINATE THE CONTRACT, REMOVE THE CAMERAS AND IMPORTANTLY, DO NOT REPLACE THE SYSTEM WITH ANOTHER TECHNOLOGY THAT CREATES THE SAME INDIVIDUAL, THE SAME INFRASTRUCTURE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SPEAKER. JOSEPH CARLSON. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS JOSEPH. I LIVE RIGHT HERE IN PALM BAY, 707 ALFRED STREET. THIS IS MY WIFE, MY SON. AND WE MOVED HERE BECAUSE WE WANTED TO ENJOY THE BEACH AND EVERYTHING, AND WE HAD A GREAT COMMUNITY HERE. BUT AS YOU GUYS ALL KNOW, WE HAVE THE PROBLEM OF FLOCK ON OUR ON OUR HANDS. IT'S A NATIONAL PROBLEM, BUT IT'S ALSO A LOCAL PROBLEM AS WELL. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE EVER SPOKEN IN FRONT OF A CITY COUNCIL. SO IT'S A NEW EXPERIENCE AND I HOPE TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE INVOLVEMENT. APPRECIATE YOU COUNCILMAN, FOR TALKING TO SOCIAL MEDIA, BRINGING THIS ATTENTION. I'M JUST GOING TO READ THIS A LITTLE EASIER FOR ME. I'D LIKE TO URGE YOU GUYS ON THIS OFFICIAL PUBLIC RECORD THAT I AND MY FAMILY DO NOT CONSENT TO THE 24 OVER SEVEN WARRANTLESS TRACKING, SURVEILLANCE, OR DIGITAL SEIZURES OF MY DAILY LIFE. I'D LIKE TO URGE YOU TO ALSO VOTE YES TO PERMANENTLY TERMINATE THE FLOCK SAFETY CONTRACT AND ORDER THE COMPLETE AND PERMANENT REMOVAL OF ALL 51, NOT 1751 CAMERAS THAT WERE ALSO INSTALLED. NOT TO CODE, NO PERMITS. THERE'S ALSO JUST GENERAL SAFETY PROBLEMS WITH THAT AS WELL. REGARDLESS OF THE SURVEILLANCE, I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT OUR CONSENT AS THE INDIVIDUAL AS WELL. WHEN I DRIVE ON THE ROAD, I'M NOT CONSENTING TO BEING FILMED 24 OVER SEVEN. THERE IS AN EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY. I KNOW PEOPLE TALK ABOUT GOING BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN. IS THERE AN EXPECTATION? IS THERE NOT? I MEAN, THE PUBLIC ROAD IS RIGHT BY MY HOUSE. HOW ELSE AM I SUPPOSED TO DRIVE TO MY FRIEND'S HOUSE TO WORK, TO CHURCH? I HAVE TO DRIVE ON THAT ROAD. I AM REQUIRED TO HAVE A LICENSE PLATE ON MY VEHICLE. OBVIOUSLY I GET FINED, PULLED OVER, ETC.. THAT MAKES SENSE. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE DRIVING SAFELY. BUT I DO NOT CONSENT TO A CONTINUOUS TRACKING. EVERY SINGLE TIME I GO OUT, MY WIFE GOES OUT. FLOCK CAMERAS CAN ALSO BE ACCESSED BY THIRD PARTIES. THERE'S BEEN MULTIPLE CASES WHERE THEY'VE BEEN ACCESSED BY INDIVIDUALS HACKING THEM, OR JUST THROUGH A SHARED NETWORK OUTSIDE OF PALM BAY, PEOPLE CAN LOOK THINGS UP. EVEN INDIVIDUAL OFFICERS CAN RUN THINGS OVER AND OVER AND SEE IT. AND I'M FOR POLICE. I'M FOR JUSTICE, OF COURSE. ALWAYS. BUT THERE HAS TO BE A BETTER WAY. WE NEED TO HAVE INDIVIDUAL CAMERAS, MAYBE ON THE OFFICERS. I KNOW THEY HAVE BODY CAMS. WE HAVE THE CCTV ON THE INTERSECTIONS. THAT'S GREAT. BUT CONSTANTLY HAVING THEM GOING 24 OVER SEVEN, JUST CREATING A MAP THAT YOU CAN LOOK THROUGH MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS. [01:55:03] WHERE DID I GO? WHERE DID I STOP AT? WHY DO I SHOP HERE? WHERE DO I GO THERE? I AM INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY. MY WIFE, MY SON. HE'S NOT DRIVING YET. HOPE. HOPE NOT FOR A WHILE, BUT INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY. PLEASE, COUNCILMAN UNDERSTAND YOUR DUTY BEFORE GOD. YOU ARE TO PROTECT THE INNOCENT. PROTECT THE INNOCENT. PLEASE DO NOT PRESUME US GUILTY. FIRST, REMOVE THE ENTIRE FLOCK SYSTEM AND DON'T REPLACE IT WITH ANYTHING ELSE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. CONNIE. MCCLEARY. MISS CONNIE. GOOD EVENING AGAIN. I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND ALL THE FUSS ABOUT THE FLOCK CAMERAS. AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, IT'S GOOD TO IT, AND IT'S BAD TO IT. AND I KNOW IT HAVE CALLED MURDERERS. IT HAVE CALLED PEOPLE. JUST A MONTH OR SO AGO, A YOUNG LADY KIDNAPED A BABY. THEY CALLED HER UP IN ALABAMA. SO WHEN YOU WHEN YOU LOOKING AT THE FLOCK CAMERA, THINK ABOUT IT. IF IT WERE YOUR FAMILY MEMBER, DON'T DON'T BE MURDERED OR SOMETHING. DON'T HAPPEN TO THEM. WOULD YOU WANT THAT SURVEILLANCE SO THEY CAN BE CALLED THAT. THAT'S MY THAT'S HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT AND EVERYTHING. AND I KNOW WHEN IT FIRST CAME TO ME WITH MY ORGANIZATION AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT CAME TO ME, WE ALL VOTED FOR THAT BECAUSE IT WAS CRIME GOING ON IN MY COMMUNITY, AND IT HELPED WITH THE CRIME IN THE COMMUNITY. SO I DON'T CARE ABOUT NOBODY SURVEILLING ME OR WHATEVER, BECAUSE I'M NOT A CRIMINAL AND I DON'T CARE ABOUT YOU SURVEILLING ME. AND, AND YOU KNOW, I'M ASKING Y'ALL TO, TO LOOK AT IT BOTH WAYS, THE GOOD AND THE BAD. NOW, I KNOW PEOPLE DO USE THEIR FLOCK CAMERA. I HAVE SEEN WHAT POLICE OFFICERS HAVE BEEN SURVEILLING THEIR EGGS OR THEIR WIFE OR WHATEVER. NOW THAT IS A MISUSE OF IT. BUT YOU GOT MISUSE OF EVERYTHING IN, IN THIS WORLD THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE MEANT FOR GOOD. AND I'M ASKING YOU ALL TO PLEASE, PLEASE CONSIDER AND LOOK AT THE GOOD AND THE BAD WITH THE CAMERA. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. TIMOTHY LEE. GOOD EVENING. I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE TOO MUCH OF YOUR TIME. I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW I CONSIDER THE FLOCK CAMERAS AND ALL THE OTHER LPRS INVASION OF MY PRIVACY AND INFRINGEMENT ON MY FOURTH AMENDMENT RIGHTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. DANE STOLBA. DANE STOLBA 425 TUNIS ROAD. I'M HERE TO EXPRESS MY STRONG OPPOSITION TO NOT ONLY FLOCK CAMERAS, BUT LPR AND SIMILAR SURVEILLANCE SYSTEMS, INCLUDING AXON AND ANY OTHER COMPANIES UP. THERE. A BLATANT INVASION OF PRIVACY AND AMERICA IS NOT A NATION OF SAFETY. WE'RE A NATION OF LIBERTY AND OF FREEDOM. AND I BELIEVE ONE OF THE BEST PARTS ABOUT OUR COUNTRY IS THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR OURSELVES AND FOR OUR OWN PERSONAL SAFETY. I DON'T CARE TO PUT MY FULL TRUST AND SAFETY INTO ANOTHER PERSON WHEN I HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO IT MYSELF, AND I BELIEVE EVERYONE HAS A RESPONSIBILITY TO TAKE INITIATIVE TO ENSURE THEIR OWN SAFETY AND NOT RELY ON OTHERS. ULTIMATELY, LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS ARE NO HIGHER THAN THOU. THEY ARE PEOPLE. THEY ARE JUST AS PRONE TO CORRUPTION AS ANY OTHER PERSON ON THIS PLANET. AND I'VE SEEN MANY LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS ACROSS THE COUNTRY COME OUT AND SAY THAT THEY CAN'T IMAGINE DOING THEIR JOB WITHOUT FLOCK CAMERAS. AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT EXACTLY THEY'VE BEEN DOING UP UNTIL THE POINT OF HAVING FLIGHT CAMERAS. AND IF THEY CAN'T DO THEIR JOB WITHOUT FLOCK CAMERAS, WHAT KIND OF LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS ARE WE HIRING? BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT I WOULD WANT TO PUT MY SAFETY IN THOSE PEOPLE'S HANDS AT ALL. AND ULTIMATELY, I WOULD LIKE THE COUNCIL TO NOT ONLY TAKE MEASURES TO END THE CONTRACT WITH FLOCK [02:00:06] IMMEDIATELY, BUT TO TAKE MEASURES TO BLOCK ANY SORT OF ALPR OR SURVEILLANCE SYSTEMS, INCLUDING DRONE SURVEILLANCE, IN THE FUTURE. AND I THINK ONE THING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE IS WHEN IT COMES TO SAFETY, A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY THINK THAT WE CAN OUT LEGISLATE EVIL. BUT WHEN YOU TRY TO OUT LEGISLATE EVIL, THE LEGISLATORS AND THEIR ENFORCERS BECOME THE EVIL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. FLETCHER. MITCHELL RAN 219 TRENTON AVENUE. I SPENT 23 YEARS IN THE MILITARY FIGHTING FOR THE CONSTITUTION, OUR FREEDOM, AND OUR RIGHTS. I STAND BEHIND THE FLOCK CAMERAS. THEY HELP THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT NATIONWIDE TO SOLVE CRIMES. THEY FIND ELDERLY PEOPLE THAT GET IN THEIR CAR HEADED TO WALMART, END UP ON 95. THEY CAN FIND THEM ON THE CAMERA. NATIONWIDE MASS SHOOTINGS HAS BEEN SOLVED BY FLOCK CAMERAS HERE IN PALM BAY. FIVE HOMICIDES THAT I KNOW OF HAVE BEEN SOLVED BY FLOCK CAMERAS. IT DIDN'T INVADE ANYBODY'S RIGHTS. WALMART. IF ANYBODY STOPS AT WALMART, YOU'RE UNDER CONSTANT SURVEILLANCE FROM THE PARKING LOT TO INSIDE THE STORE TILL YOU GET TO CHECKOUT. THEY'VE GOT A CAMERA RIGHT THERE WATCHING YOU. EXCUSE ME? IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE SUPREME COURT HAS ALREADY RULED THAT THE FLOCK CAMERAS ARE LEGAL. THIS COUNCIL ASKED FOR A REVIEW OF THE FLOCK CAMERAS CONTRACT AND USE HERE IN PALM BAY. WHAT WAS THE RESULT OF THAT REVIEW? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, JAMES SCHWARTZ. HELLO. JAMES SCHWARTZ, PALM BAY. I HE SAID THAT THE CAMERAS ARE SERVING US THAT WHEN WE GO TO WALMART AND SUCH, THEY'RE NOT SCOOPING OUR DATA, THEY'RE JUST TAKING THEIR PICTURE TO CATCH SHOPLIFTERS. YOU KNOW, THE FIRST TEN MINUTES OF THIS MEETING WERE ONE OF THE COUNCIL PEOPLE WAS TRYING TO JUST SHUT DOWN DISCUSSION OF THIS ENTIRE THING. IT REALLY SHOWS A LACK OF UNDERSTANDING AND RESPECT FOR THE FIRST AMENDMENT REDRESS OF GRIEVANCES. THE SECOND AMENDMENT. I MEAN, IF WE GOT RID OF THE SECOND AMENDMENT, HOW MUCH SAFER WOULD POLICE OFFICERS BE? THE FOURTH AMENDMENT IS A BACKBONE OF OUR COUNTRY. THE RIGHT TO BE FREE IN YOUR OWN PERSON, UNLESS YOU'RE ACCUSED OF A CRIME. AND THEN YOU'RE INVESTIGATED. AND THAT'S WITH A WARRANT SIGNED BY A JUDGE WITH PROBABLE CAUSE, WITHOUT PROBABLE CAUSE. YOU CAN'T BOTHER INNOCENT PEOPLE. THE GOVERNMENT IS. PUBLIC OFFICIALS HAVE TO RESPECT A PERSON'S RIGHT TO BE TO LIVE THEIR LIFE WITHOUT SURVEILLANCE. THE FIFTH AMENDMENT. WHAT IF WE GOT RID OF THE FIFTH AMENDMENT? WHAT IF IT BECAME A CRIME TO NOT CONFESS THAT YOU COMMITTED A CRIME, EVEN IF YOU DIDN'T COMMIT THAT CRIME? WE NEED TO RESPECT THE BILL OF RIGHTS. AND THAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THIS ENTIRE THING. THE FOURTH AMENDMENT CANNOT BE JUST SHOVED TO THE SIDE BECAUSE YOU'RE AFRAID, OR YOU THINK THAT IT'S GOING TO SOLVE SOME CRIME. WE NEED TO JUST A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY, WELL, IF YOU'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING WRONG, YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO WORRY ABOUT. WELL, JOSEPH STALIN SAID, SHOW ME THE MAN AND I'LL SHOW YOU THE CRIME. IF IF WE ARE ALWAYS SURVEILLED AND THE LAW CHANGES, JUST LIKE DURING COVID, THEY CAME UP WITH THE MOST RIDICULOUS NONSENSE. WHAT IF THEY USE THESE CAMERAS TO ENFORCE THAT? OH, HE DIDN'T HAVE HIS MASK ON IN HIS CAR. PULL HIM OVER. LET'S DO A FELONY. STOP ON HIM. THROW HIM ON THE GROUND. HE DIDN'T HAVE HIS MASK ON. PUT HIM IN A CONCENTRATION CAMP. YOU KNOW, HALF OF THE DEMOCRAT PARTY VOTERS WANTED TO PUT PEOPLE IN CONCENTRATION CAMPS FOR NOT TAKING THE VACCINE. SO WE CAN'T TRUST THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO TO HAVE ACCESS TO OUR BILL OF RIGHTS, TO OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS. THEY'RE ABOVE AND BEYOND THE MAJORITY. THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO JUST TO CLARIFY THERE WAS A A PROCEDURAL ISSUE THAT WE HAD TO POLICE. NO ONE WAS TRYING TO AVERT THE DISCUSSION, BUT WE IDENTIFIED WHERE WE HAD TO GO INTO OUR POLICY AND REVISE IT. [02:05:04] SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT FOR YOU. THANK YOU. JARED MARTIN. JARED MARTIN. I SAID I WAS GOING TO TAKE IT EASY ON YOU GUYS, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW WE COULD GO MULTIPLE TIMES. SO HERE I AM. AS FAR AS FLOCK IN OUR COMMUNITY YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HAVE TOUCHED ON THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. I'M IN TOTAL AGREEMENT WITH THEM. THE THING THAT I WANT TO FOCUS ON IS HOW WE'RE BEING REPRESENTED LOCALLY. BECAUSE I KNOW PEOPLE LIKE TO POINT OUT, YOU KNOW, NATIONALLY. ALL RIGHT. WE'VE SEEN, YOU KNOW, IN COLORADO, IT WAS USED TO TRY TO ARREST A WOMAN THAT HAD A SIMILAR CAR THAT HAD BEEN SEEN IN AN AREA WHERE AN AMAZON PACKAGE HAD BEEN STOLEN. SHE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. THEY LATER CAUGHT THE PERSON THAT HAD ACTUALLY TAKEN THAT $25 PACKAGE, BUT THE POLICE KNOCKED ON HER DOOR, AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO SEND YOU THE VIDEO. YOU KNOW, THE COP TELLS HER, WELL, LOOK, YOU CAN'T MAKE A MOVE IN THIS CITY WITHOUT US KNOWING ABOUT IT. WE KNOW IT WAS YOU. GO AHEAD AND JUST, YOU KNOW, COME ON WITH US, AND WE'LL GO AHEAD AND ARREST YOU AND GET THIS OVER WITH. SO IT BEING USED TO COERCE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SEEING THAT NATIONWIDE, BUT I WANT TO FOCUS RIGHT HERE AT HOME. WHENEVER WE GO TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS, YOU KNOW, I'VE SPOKEN OR TRIED TO SPEAK TO SEVERAL COUNCIL MEMBERS AND I'M TOLD, OH, WE CAN'T DISCUSS IT. OH, I DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT. I DIDN'T VOTE ON IT. I WASN'T IN THEN. BUT THAT'S NOT A REPRESENTATION OF THE PEOPLE. YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE SAYING, OH, THERE'S SOMETHING I CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS DONE BEFORE ME. I CAN'T TOUCH IT. THEN WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE EXACTLY? YOU KNOW, IF IF WE CAN'T IF THE PEOPLE CAN'T STEP UP AND SAY, HEY, WE DON'T LIKE THIS. WE WANT TO CHANGE SOMETHING. SORRY. OUR HANDS ARE TIED. YOU KNOW, IT WAS DONE BEFORE. CAN'T REALLY TALK ABOUT IT. YOU KNOW THAT THAT SHOWS A FUNDAMENTAL LACK OF RESPECT FROM THIS COUNCIL TO THE PUBLIC. YOU'VE GOT PLENTY OF PATRIOTS SITTING OUT HERE SAYING, WE DON'T LIKE THIS. YOU KNOW, WE'RE SPEAKING OUT AGAINST IT. AND EVEN IF IT'S NOT FLOCK, Y'ALL ARE OUR REPRESENTATIVES. NOW, I SHOULD BE ABLE TO COME TO ANY ONE OF YOU AND SAY, HERE'S MY MY REQUEST. YOU KNOW, HERE'S SOMETHING I DON'T LIKE. HERE'S SOMETHING I DO LIKE, BUT JUST TRYING TO BE BRUSHED OFF. AND IT HASN'T BEEN JUST ME. I'VE SEEN IT WITH MULTIPLE PEOPLE GET BRUSHED OFF. OH, WE CAN'T REALLY DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. WE CAN'T SPEAK ON IT. THAT WAS BEFORE ME. I MY HANDS ARE TIED. THAT DOESN'T HELP THE PEOPLE. WHAT DOES THAT TELL ME ABOUT YOU AS LEADERS? YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO STEP UP AND REPRESENT US, BUT INSTEAD, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT TO COME UP HERE AND COMPLAIN AND BRING ALL THESE PEOPLE OUT. YOU KNOW, AS I SPOKE OF, WE'VE GOT KIDS AT HOME. YOU'VE SEEN THEM HERE. I LEFT LEFT MY ONE YEAR OLD DAUGHTER AT HOME, BUT SOME PEOPLE BROUGHT THEIRS. YOU'RE TAKING AWAY FROM OUR TIME WHEN WE COULD JUST TALK TO YOU. MY FRIENDS ASKED ME WHY I WEAR THIS STUPID HAT WHEN I DEAL WITH GOVERNMENT. IT'S TO REMIND MYSELF AND Y'ALL THAT WE'RE PATRIOTS, AND WE HAVE A RIGHT AND A DUTY TO STAND UP FOR OURSELVES AND OUR NEIGHBORS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THAT CONCLUDES THE CARDS. MAYOR. NO ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS, DEPUTY MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. SO. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, YOU YOU STARTED THIS PRESENTATION? YES, MA'AM. AND I KNOW WHAT YOUR REQUEST WAS, SO I'LL START OFF WITH UNLESS YOU WANTED TO ADD SOMETHING. DID YOU WANT TO PASS IT ON TO COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN AND GO DOWN RANGE? WHAT? I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION JUST TO SO WE CAN BEGIN THE DISCUSSION. RIGHT NOW WE'RE DISCUSSING. RIGHT. YEAH. THE AGENDA ITEM IS TO DISCUSS. SO I JUST WANTED TO PASS THAT ON. WHAT WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE? OR ARE YOU GOING TO ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY WHICH WAY WE SHOULD GO? SHE SHE EMAILED ME THE CONTRACT. WELL, INFORMATION IN REGARDS TO THE CONTRACT AND IT'S A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT. SO THERE WERE SOME STATEMENTS MADE AND I WANT TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE WHOLE COUNCIL. THIS WAS NOTHING WE VOTED ON. THIS IS PART OF THE REASON WHY I BROUGHT UP AN ITEM THAT WAS HIGHLIGHTED IN THE 2019 JLAC AUDIT BECAUSE THE CITY MANAGEMENT, NOT THIS CITY MANAGEMENT, BUT THE CITY MANAGER HAS THE AUTHORITY WITHIN $100,000 TO MAKE ADMINISTRATIVE DECISIONS. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE DECISIONS THAT WAS MADE. SO NOBODY ON THIS COUNCIL, INCLUDING ME AND I'VE BEEN ON THE COUNCIL THE LONGEST, VOTED FOR THIS. IT WAS HANDLED ADMINISTRATIVELY. WITH THAT BEING SAID WITH IT. OKAY. GO AHEAD. I, I WANTED OKAY, JUST FOR A SECOND, RIGHT. BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF INFORMATION AND COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE AND I'D LIKE TO SEE IF THE, THE CHIEF CAN COME UP BECAUSE THE SURVEILLANCE ASPECT TO IT. I'D LIKE FOR HIM TO ADDRESS THAT. OKAY. ARE YOU GOOD WITH THAT OR DID YOU WANT TO CARRY ON? [02:10:05] I'M GOOD WITH IT. I'LL I AM GOING TO MAKE A, YOU KNOW, A REQUEST FOR A MOTION, BUT I'LL WAIT FOR THE CHIEF TO SPEAK. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. MR. MORTON. I'D LIKE TO HAVE CHIEF SPEIRS COME UP. THANK YOU. I KNOW YOU WERE PRESENT FOR A LOT OF THE DISCUSSIONS, SO I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH A LITTLE BIT ON THE SURVEILLANCE ASPECT TO THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE ON THE CONSTANT SURVEILLANCE REGARDING THE USE AND MAYBE WHAT PARAMETERS THAT YOU HAD INSTILLED WHATEVER GUARDRAILS REGARDING OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S REALLY RELATIVE INFORMATION FOR THE PUBLIC TO KNOW. SURE. SO YOU KNOW, THESE CAMERAS ARE TAKING PICTURES. IT'S A STILL PICTURE OF A VEHICLE AS IT PASSES THROUGH THE CAMERA. IT'S NOT A CONSTANT RECORDING OF ANY VEHICLES THAT ARE TRAVELING THROUGH. THAT DATA IS STORED FOR 30 DAYS. UNLESS WE DETERMINE THROUGH AN INVESTIGATION THAT THAT VEHICLE IS NEEDED FOR THE CASE AND WE CAN LOG THAT, TAG THAT VEHICLE INFORMATION IN, AND HOLD IT UNTIL THE CASE IS RESOLVED. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT CLARIFICATION. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE I TURN IT OFF? OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. THANKS FOR COMING UP. HOW DO YOU WANT TO PROCEED? COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON. DO YOU WANT TO TEE IT OFF? COUNCILMAN. SO ONLY BECAUSE I, I HAVE THE INFORMATION, SO I WANT TO SHARE IT WITH EVERYBODY BEING THAT IT'S A FIVE YEAR AGREEMENT. I BELIEVE MY INTERPRETATION IS THAT WE CAN TERMINATE, TERMINATE IT IMMEDIATELY. SO THE ENDING OF THIS YEAR THAT WE'VE ALREADY PAID FOR IS FEBRUARY 28TH, 2027. YEAH. SO MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO END IT TONIGHT OR GIVE DIRECTION TO. SO I APPRECIATE IT, I APPRECIATE IT, BUT TO GIVE DIRECTION TO THE CITY MANAGER TO HAVE A A TERMINATE CONTRACT EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY. SO. OKAY. COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, FOR BRINGING THIS UP. SO I MEAN, LIKE, LIKE WE SAID I DIDN'T VOTE ON THIS, BUT I DID SPEND SIX MONTHS LAST YEAR FIGHTING TOOTH AND NAIL AGAINST THE SPEED TRAP CAMERAS. AND QUITE FRANKLY, I, I WAS PRETTY BURNED OUT ON THAT ONE AND I JUST DIDN'T THINK I HAD THE, THE POLITICAL CAPITAL TO TAKE ON THIS FIGHT. BUT THAT'S WHY WE NEEDED SOME PATRIOTS TO COME OUT TONIGHT. SO I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS. YEAH. I MEAN, WE GOTTA I SAY CUT THEM OFF CUT THEM DOWN. LISTEN FLOCK IS A YEAH IT'S A TOOL FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT. AND HERE IN THIS CITY AND IN THIS COUNTY, WE HAVE GREAT LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, AND WE HAVE RIGHTEOUS LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS. AND I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THEY DO. AND I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT IN THIS CITY, IT'S NOT BEING ABUSED. BUT WHAT FLOCK IS, IS IT IS A IT'S A IT'S A GATEWAY DRUG TO KIND OF USE A LAW ENFORCEMENT TERM. AND SO YEAH, IT'S RIGHT TODAY, YOU KNOW, OKAY, BEFORE WE HAD CCTV CAMERAS, NOW WE'RE DOING LICENSE PLATE READERS. SO NOW WE HAVE 51 IN THE CITY. CRIMES STILL GOING TO HAPPEN. SO WE'RE GOING TO DOUBLE THAT NUMBER. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE 100 CRIMES STILL GOING TO HAPPEN. WE'RE GOING TO NEED MORE. THEN WE'RE GOING TO ADVANCE TO A DRONE SYSTEM. THEN WE'RE GOING TO SAY, WELL, CRIMES STILL HAPPENING. SO WE NEED AN AI FACIAL RECOGNITION. AND BEFORE YOU KNOW IT, MY SEVEN MONTH OLD DAUGHTER, WHEN SHE TURNS 18, SHE'S GOING TO BE WALKING AROUND IN AN AMERICA THAT NONE OF US RECOGNIZE. AND SO WHILE RIGHT THIS SECOND, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL, IT'S A TOOL FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT. IT'S STEP ONE INTO AN ORWELLIAN SOCIETY THAT NONE OF US WANT. THAT'S THE GOVERNOR'S CONCERNS. THAT'S MY CONCERNS. SO YEAH. POLICE OFFICERS HAVE EXISTED FOR 100 YEARS. THEY'VE ENFORCED A LAW, THEY'VE ARRESTED PEOPLE. THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB. WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO IT THAT WAY. SO I SAY, YOU KNOW, TURN THEM OFF TONIGHT. OKAY. COUNCILMAN HAMER I HAVE A COUPLE THINGS. FIRST OFF, I JUST WANTED TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THERE'S A SUNSHINE LAW. SO A CITY COUNCILMAN CANNOT GO ONLINE AND DISCUSS HOW HE'S GOING TO VOTE, HOW HE FEELS ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE ON THE AGENDA. IT'S A VIOLATION OF THE SUNSHINE, AND WE CAN'T DO IT. WE'RE WELCOME TO HAVE PRIVATE CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE. AND I'VE HAD OVER 250 CONVERSATIONS ABOUT FLOCK WITH OUR CITIZENS. SECONDLY, OUR CONSTITUTION, OUR CONSTITUTION WAS WRITTEN, INFORMED ON THE BASIS THAT WE HAVE A SOCIETY THAT IS MORALLY RIGHT. I LOVE THE CONSTITUTION. [02:15:01] I WOULD LOVE TO SEE OUR SOCIETY BE MORE MORALLY RIGHT. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE PEOPLE TREATED BETTER. I WOULD LOVE TO SIT UP HERE AND SAY WE DON'T NEED FLOCK, BUT WE DO NEED IT ON THE BACKSIDE OF THAT. I WAS NOT VOTED IN HERE BY ME. I WAS IN, I WAS VOTED IN HERE BY THE PEOPLE, AND THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN FOR ME TONIGHT. I WILL BE AGAINST IT. I WILL BE AGAINST FLOCK. DEPUTY MAYOR. I SUPPORT TERMINATING THE AGREEMENT TONIGHT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO I HAVE A FEW THINGS TO SAY. COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON. SO DID YOU WANT TO INTERJECT NOW OR LIKE, MAKE A MOTION OR. YEAH. DID YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? YES, SIR. I'LL MAKE A MOTION. TO GIVE THE CITY MANAGER A DIRECTION TO TERMINATE ON THE FLOCK CAMERA SYSTEM AND TO NOTIFY FLOCK CAMERA OR WHATEVER THE NAME IS, FLOCK TO GET THEIR POLLS DOWN IMMEDIATELY WITHIN THE NEXT 30 DAYS. HEY, COUNCILMAN, I WANT TO, I WANT TO SECOND THAT, BUT CAN WE ENSURE THAT THAT INCLUDES, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE CAMERAS IN THE PARKS, NOT JUST THE LICENSE PLATE READERS? OKAY. IS IT ARE WE ARE WE CLEAR ON THAT? OKAY. THEN I'M GOING TO SECOND THAT MOTION. I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN LINDGREN. GO AHEAD. CITY MANAGER. IS IT DONE? IS HE. MR. MORTON? SO YOU GUYS CAN DO THIS? OBVIOUSLY TONIGHT IN A MOTION. BUT I WOULD ASK YOU TO AMEND YOUR MOTION. YOU HAVE A BUDGET HEARING COMING BACK ON THE 17TH. THE QUICKEST, MOST EFFECTIVE WAY TO TERMINATE THE CONTRACT FOR THE EASIEST WAY WITHOUT A LONG BATTLE IS TO DEFUND THE PROGRAM. THAT ACTUALLY GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO CANCEL THE CONTRACT IMMEDIATELY. THE NO VENDOR CAN BIND THE CITY TO FUTURE PAYMENTS, SO THERE IS A PROVISION IN THE CONTRACT THAT IF IT DOES NOT HAVE A LINE ITEM, WE CAN'T. THE CONTRACT IS DONE. SO I WOULD ASK YOU TO MAKE THAT FOR ME TO BRING IT BACK TO THE BUDGET MEETING WITH AN AMENDMENT IN THE BUDGET TO DEFUND THAT LINE ITEM THAT FUNDS THE ENTIRE FLOCK CONTRACT. YOUR THOUGHTS? COUNCILMAN. DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE. SO MY QUESTION WOULD BE, HOW LONG IS THIS CURRENT CONTRACT FUNDED THROUGH? IS IT PAID FOR? IF WE MAKE THE MOTION TO DEFUND IT IMMEDIATELY, HOW DOES THAT WORK? SO I DON'T HAVE THE PARTICULARS YET. WE'VE BEEN TALKING WITH OTHER JURISDICTIONS THAT ARE GOING THROUGH THIS. YOU CAN IMAGINE THE BACKLOG FOR CARS. SO THERE ARE WEEKS AND WEEKS AND WEEKS OF GETTING BACK TO PEOPLE ON HOW THE TAIL END WORKS. FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, AND OUR CITY ATTORNEY CAN MAYBE WEIGH IN, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE ANY FUTURE PAYMENTS. I MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO TERMINATE THE CONTRACT EFFECTIVE ON THE DEFUNDING, WHICH WOULD BE ON THE BUDGET. THE SYSTEM SHUT DOWN. I THINK THAT'S THE MOST EXPEDIENT WAY TO DO THIS. I'VE HEARD FROM OTHER CITY MANAGERS. IF YOU'RE SENDING IN CANCELLATION REQUESTS INQUIRING ABOUT CONTRACT DETAILS, SOME HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR TWO MONTHS TO GET A RESPONSE. OR LONGER. WE DID IDENTIFY THE PROVISION IN THE CONTRACT THAT JUST TERMINATE THE FUNDING, JUST REMOVE THE LINE ITEM AND IT'S, THERE'S NOTHING MORE TO DO. AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE EFFECTIVE THE DATE WE REMOVE THE FUNDING ITEM. SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HAVING IT DONE FOR WHEN IS IT TUESDAY THAT WE'RE BACK HERE FOR THE BUDGET? YEAH, I'M PRETTY SURE I CAN BRING BACK A BUDGET AMENDMENT THAT NIGHT. AND EVEN THOUGH WE'RE NOT WHOLESALE ADOPTING THE BUDGET, I THINK WE CAN GET DIRECTION ON A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO REMOVE FUNDING. BUT I GUESS MY ONLY CLARIFICATION QUESTION FOR THIS YEAR, IT GOES UP FEBRUARY 28TH. SO WILL IT CONTINUE TILL FEBRUARY 28TH? IF NO, IF YOU REMOVE THE FUNDING WE'RE GOING TO TREAT THAT AS IT HAS BEEN REMOVED. WE CAN EVEN CLAW BACK THE FUNDING. I'M SURE, IN A BUDGET AMENDMENT, LIKE WE DO ALL THE TIME AND SAY THE FUNDING HAS BEEN REALLOCATED AND WE CAN, IF THERE'S A FIGHT THERE, WE CAN WE CAN FIGHT THAT FIGHT WITH FLOCK. WE CAN JUST MAKE IT DATE CERTAIN. THERE IS NO FUNDING. THAT LINE ITEM HAS BEEN REAPPROPRIATED AND FUTURE FUNDING HAS BEEN ELIMINATED. AND I THINK THAT'S THE QUICKEST, CLEANEST WAY FOR US TO AT LEAST PUT A STAKE IN THE GROUND. IF THAT'S YOUR YOUR WISH TO TO TERMINATE IMMEDIATELY. OKAY. COUNCIL. ARE WE GOOD WITH THIS? WHERE ARE WE NOW? I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT. OKAY. COUNCILMAN HAMMER. CAN'T WE JUST DEFUND IT RIGHT NOW? WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE THE BUDGET? YOU DIDN'T PUT ON THE AGENDA FOR ACTION TONIGHT. THAT'D BE A CITY ATTORNEY QUESTION. THEY'RE DISABLED AT THE MOMENT. I CAN'T COMMENT TO AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE KNOW THIS AS PEOPLE HAVE RAISED THIS QUESTION. DOES THAT MEAN THEY'RE COMPLETELY DEAD? I DON'T KNOW. I'M NOT THAT MUCH OF A TECHNOLOGY EXPERT, BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THIS MOVE, THEN I DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY WE CAN'T START REMOVING THE CAMERAS PHYSICALLY. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THAT PROCESS TAKES. MAYBE A FEW WEEKS. BUT BUT THAT'S COUNCIL'S WISH AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. SO JUST HAVE MAYOR. SORRY. MAYOR. YOU WERE MENTIONED CITY ATTORNEY IN REGARDS TO COUNCIL'S WILL TODAY'S COUNCIL MEETING. WE HAVE BUDGET NEXT WEEK. YEAH, NEXT TUESDAY. SO WEDNESDAY, WEDNESDAY NIGHT. [02:20:03] SO IN SIX DAYS. MAJORITY OF COUNCIL'S GOOD FOR TERMINATING TERMINATING IT TODAY. YOU HEAR THE CONCERNS OF THE CITY MANAGEMENT FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT. SORRY. AND YOU CAN DIRECT US TO START TAKING THEM DOWN. I'M JUST SAYING FROM THE FROM THE ACTUAL TERMINATION, THE CLEANEST, EASIEST, QUICKEST WAY TO DO IT IS WE CAN START TAKING THE POLLS DOWN. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT YOUR DESIRE IS. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. SO THEN WHY DON'T WE MAKE A MOTION TONIGHT TO, TO SAY LET'S TO BRING BACK A BUDGET AT THE BUDGET HEARING TO NOT HAVE A LINE ITEM ON IT. WOULDN'T THAT MAKE THE MOST SENSE? YES. CORRECT. AND THEN I SAY, BUT WE'RE NOT WAITING UNTIL NEXT WEEK. WE'RE SAYING TONIGHT. AND THEN YOU BRING BACK THE BUDGET NEXT AT THE BUDGET HEARING, CORRECT? YEAH. AND WE CAN START. OKAY. SO I NEED TO RESCIND MY SECOND SO WE CAN REWORD IT. COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON. COUNCILMAN RESCINDED HIS SECOND COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON. I'M IN MY MOTION TO REFLECT WHAT COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN SAID FOR THE UPCOMING BUDGET MEETING. IS THAT CLEAR? MADAM ATTORNEY AND CITY CLERK, IS THAT CLEAR, OR DO YOU NEED HIM TO SPECIFY? I'M FINE WITH IT, TOO. SORRY. ONE MORE QUESTION. JUST MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAN AND RIGHT. YES, WE NEED TO ALSO DOUBLE ADVERTISE AS A SPECIAL MEETING SINCE WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ACTION ON SOMETHING OUTSIDE. IT'S TYPICALLY GOING TO BE A BUDGET PRESENTATION DISCUSSION WITH NO ACTION. DO WE NEED TO DOUBLE ADVERTISE? NOW'S A SPECIAL MEETING FOR THIS ITEM. NO, AS IT IS A SPECIAL MEETING. YOU CAN ADD WHATEVER ITEMS YOU WANT TO TAKE ACTION ON. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO WE'RE GOOD WITH THE MOTION. I GOT I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON AND I'LL SECOND IT. AND COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN JUST SECONDED. BEFORE I CALL THE QUESTION, I GOT A FEW THINGS I'D LIKE TO SHARE. YES, SIR. RIGHT. FIRST AND FOREMOST I TAKE MY DUTY SERIOUSLY. RIGHT. AND A LOT OF SCRIPTURE MIGHT HAVE BEEN MENTIONED A LITTLE BIT EARLIER TODAY, BUT I'LL START BY SAYING THIS. I TRUST IN THE LORD WITH ALL MY HEART. FIRST AND FOREMOST, ANYONE THAT KNOWS ME, I DON'T DEPEND ON MY OWN UNDERSTANDING. I LEAN ON HIM. I SEEK HIS WAY AND HE TELLS ME WHICH WAY TO GO. RIGHT. I'M NOT IMPRESSED WITH MY OWN WISDOM. NEVER WILL BE. I'M. BUT INSTEAD, I FEAR THE LORD AND I TURN AWAY FROM EVIL. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE HAVE EVIL OUT THERE. THERE IS AN ENEMY THAT WE HAVE, AND THE TECHNOLOGY THAT THEY USE, THEY'RE USING IT AGAINST US. AND SO WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO SHARE. I WAS ABLE TO WITNESS THE GOVERNOR SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ON FLOCK THIS PAST MONDAY. HIS CONCERNS, AND I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE WITH ARE THE DATA HARVESTING THAT IS ACTUALLY GOING ON BY THESE COMPANIES. NOT ONLY THAT, BUT HE ALSO IS CONCERNED WITH THE AI ASPECT TO IT, BUT HE INCLUDED THAT HE WANTED OUR LEGISLATORS TO WORK ON THIS, AND THE SENATE DID WORK ON IT, AND THE HOUSE DID NOT. HE WENT ON TO SAY THAT HE WOULD WANT THAT TACKLED WITH ALGORITHMS THAT I HEARD THAT PEOPLE WERE EVEN TALKING ABOUT. HE SHARED ALL THAT DATA THAT'S BEING HARVESTED AND HOW IT'S BEING SOLD. WITH THAT BEING SAID, THIS IS THE TECHNOLOGY THAT IS CURRENTLY AVAILABLE, TECHNOLOGY THAT THE ENEMY USES FOR EVIL. WHAT DO I MEAN BY THAT? I BELIEVE THAT IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO EQUIP OUR CRIME FIGHTERS WITH THE TECHNOLOGY TO PROTECT THE CITIZENS AND THE LIVELIHOOD AND THE SANCTITY OF LIFE IN OUR COMMUNITIES. AND BEYOND THAT, IN OUR NATION. NOW, WITH THAT BEING SAID, THERE HAVE BEEN GUARDRAILS THAT THIS COUNCIL HAD DIRECTED POLICE TO GO AHEAD AND WORK ON, AND THOSE GUARDRAILS WERE IN PLACE. I ALSO AGREE THAT THIS HAS GOTTEN OUT OF CONTROL, BUT I IMPLORE THIS COUNCIL TO CONSIDER THE ASPECT OF GIVING A CRIME FIGHTING TOOL TO OUR CRIME FIGHTERS AND OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. I WILL SHARE HOW MANY SUCCESSES WE'VE HAD WITH THIS TECHNOLOGY, BUT I WILL ONLY SHARE A FEW. VERY FIRST ONE I'M GOING TO SHARE IS IF YOU REMEMBER, RIGHT AFTER CHRISTMAS, WE HAD YOUNGSTERS KILLED AT THE COMPOUND. BECAUSE OF THAT TECHNOLOGY, WE WERE ABLE OR LAW ENFORCEMENT WAS ABLE TO CAPTURE THE THE CRIMINALS INVOLVED WITH THAT. WE ALSO MOST RECENTLY THIS YEAR HAD EVIL ON THE DOORSTEPS OF OUR CITY. SOMEONE COMMITTED A MURDER IN ANOTHER CITY, CHOPPED UP THE REMAINS, PLACED THE REMAINS IN A SUITCASE, [02:25:03] AND DROPPED IT OFF IN THE COMPOUND. WE RECENTLY HAD A CRIME ANALYST THAT WAS RECOGNIZED FOR THE HARD WORK OF BEING ABLE TO GET THAT INDIVIDUAL BEHIND BARS. SO I AM ALL ABOUT HELPING THOSE WITH THE SANCTITY OF LIFE. WHEN I THINK OF TECHNOLOGY, I THINK OF COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN. YOU SERVED IN THE NAVY. WE HAD BACK IN THE DAY, WE HAD MUSKETS BACK IN THE DAY, WE HAD CANNONBALLS ON THE SHIPS TODAY. WE GOT MISSILES. THAT'S TECHNOLOGY THAT'S PROTECTING THE SANCTITY OF LIFE. AND SO THAT'S WHAT I CONSIDER. WE NEED TO CONSIDER HOW WE PROTECT THE LIVES OF OTHERS AT ALL TIMES. I AM IN AGREEMENT. THIS HAS GOTTEN OUT OF CONTROL. BUT I WOULD IMPLORE THIS COUNCIL TO CONSIDER THE CRIME FIGHTING TOOL, BECAUSE I BELIEVE THE LEGISLATORS ARE GOING TO COME TOGETHER AND THEY'RE GOING TO SET THESE PARAMETERS, AND THERE WILL BE A NEW LAW, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THE GOVERNOR, THIS HE WAS PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS. HE WANTED TO PREEMPT ALL OF THIS, AS HE STATED. SO I, I AM IN AGREEMENT THAT THIS WILL COME BACK ON WEDNESDAY, BUT I WANT US TO RECOGNIZE THAT I SUPPORT THIS TECHNOLOGY AS A CRIME FIGHTING TOOL. AND I'LL END WITH THIS. 20 YEARS AGO, WE HAVE SOMEONE MISSING STILL TODAY. I OFTEN THINK OF LIFE AND THE CHILD, WHICH IS NOW A WOMAN THAT LOST HER PARENTS. AND THAT CASE IS STILL ACTIVE TODAY. A COLD CASE. ARE WE CREATING A COLD CASE IN THE FUTURE FOR OUR COMMUNITY? I CAN TELL YOU THIS. I KNOW THAT THAT IS A GOOD TOOL TO TRACK THESE HUMAN TRAFFICKERS THAT GO UP AND DOWN 95 IN ALL OUR CORRIDORS. I CAN ALSO STATE THAT RIGHT NOW, THE CRIMINAL ELEMENT IS OUT THERE CLAPPING THEIR HANDS BECAUSE THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO BE TRACKED IN THE FUTURE, BUT NOT ONLY IN OUR CITY, BUT EVERYWHERE ELSE IN OUR STATE. SO I'M GOING TO CALL THE QUESTION, ALL IN FAVOR. AND MA'AM, FOR THE RECORD, I HAVE TO SAY THAT. SO I KNOW I, I TASK YOU, MADAM JONES, WITH THOSE COMMENTS. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, AYE. ALL OPPOSED SIGNIFY BY SAYING NAY. I SAY AYE. TO THIS. BUT I WILL SAY NAY TO GETTING IT. GET RID OF ALL OF THEM. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. NEXT. NEXT ITEM. WE ARE NOW ON CONSENT. [APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA:] DEPUTY MAYOR BILL BATTEN. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST. I'D LIKE TO SAY IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE AT ALL TO DISCUSS CONSENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR, WHICH I'M. I'M HAPPY TO SEE THE TREES BEING PLANTED. I THINK IT'S FANTASTIC. AND I'M BEEN PRESENTED TONIGHT THAT THERE'S EVEN A LITTLE LESS COST IS THAT THERE'S SOME PLACE IN THERE. WE'RE SPENDING THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR TREES THAT WE HAVE A GUARANTEE. LIKE SOMETIMES THEY GUARANTEE THE PLANT. SO IF IT FAILS TO GROW THAT WE GET IT REPLACED. AND THEN ITEM NUMBER FIVE WAS FOR THE GUN RANGE, A HALF, NEARLY A HALF $1 MILLION FOR A. I'M NOT SURE IT SAYS A ROOM THAT YOU CAN TRAIN PEOPLE IN SEEMED LIKE A LOT OF MONEY, SO I JUST RUN OUT OF THE $1.1 MILLION TOTAL. IF HALF IF HALF OF THAT WAS GOING FOR THE ROOM, WHAT'S THE OTHER HALF GOING FOR OUT OF THAT GRANT? IT SAYS FOR OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE. I COULDN'T FIGURE OUT HOW THAT WAS GOING TO BE PRACTICAL. HALF $1 MILLION TO MAINTAIN A PORTABLE CLASSROOM JUST DIDN'T MAKE SENSE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. MR. MORTON, CAN YOU RESPOND TO ITEM FOUR? AND SO THERE IS A STANDARD WARRANTY FOR A LIMITED PERIOD ON TREES FOR SURVIVAL. IN THE CONTRACT, IN TERMS OF THE MONEY, IT IS A $1.25 MILLION GRANT TOTAL. AND THOSE ARE AGGREGATED BETWEEN. WE DID A NEGOTIATION, I THINK IT WAS A 32% REDUCTION IN THE TOTAL COST. IT'LL COME IN ON THE GRANT, AND THAT COST IS WHAT IT COSTS FOR SITE CONSTRUCTION, SITE PREPARATION, PARKING, BUILDING. WELL, SEPTIC STORMWATER, THOSE ARE THOSE ARE THE, THE COSTS THAT ARE ENGINEERING AND ESTIMATED BY THE ENGINEER TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT. SO THERE'S JUST A LOT OF ENTAILMENTS THAT OF COURSE, BY THEIR OWN CODE, LIGHTING SAFETY ADA ACCESS FOR THE CLASSROOM, ALL THOSE THINGS WILL COME TOGETHER. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. NEXT SPEAKER. ALL RIGHT. [02:30:02] I NEED A MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT. SECOND, GOT A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN OR HAMMER. WHO WAS THAT? COUNCIL DEPUTY MAYOR? MOTION AND COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN. SECONDED. ALL IN FAVOR. SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED PASSES? UNANIMOUSLY. WE'RE NOW ON PUBLIC HEARING, NUMBER ONE. [PUBLIC HEARINGS:] YES, MAYOR, BEFORE I READ PUBLIC HEARING, ONE, IF I CAN READ THE ORDINANCE WE JUST APPROVED UNDER CONSENT. ORDINANCE 2026-33, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2026 BUDGET BY APPROPRIATING AND ALLOCATING FUNDS AS OUTLINED IN ATTACHED EXHIBIT A, CONSISTING OF TWO PAGES AND INCORPORATED IN ITS ENTIRETY HEREIN. RECOGNIZING THAT SUCH APPROPRIATIONS MUST BE MADE PURSUANT TO THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY. CHAPTER 35 FINANCE. ADOPTING, RATIFYING, CONFIRMING AND VALIDATING THE ALLOCATIONS PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU MA'AM. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER ONE, THE QUASAR STATEMENT. YES, MAYOR. THANK YOU. THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ARE QUASI JUDICIAL IN NATURE, PUBLIC HEARINGS, AGENDA ITEMS NUMBER ONE AND FIVE. ANY PERSON WHO WISHES TO TESTIFY ON SUCH A MATTER MUST SIGN A SPEAKER CARD, WHICH CONTAINS A SWORN OATH TO TELL THE TRUTH. ANY INDIVIDUAL ADDRESSING THE COUNCIL MUST STATE HIS OR HER NAME AND CONFIRM THAT A SPEAKER CARD HAS BEEN SIGNED. ATTORNEYS WHO ARE APPEARING ON BEHALF OF A PARTY AND NOT PROVIDING TESTIMONIAL EVIDENCE ARE NOT CONSIDERED WITNESSES AND NEED NOT BE SWORN. COUNSEL SHOULD DISCLOSE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION BY DISCLOSING THE SUBJECT MATTER OF THE COMMUNICATION AND THE IDENTITY OF THE PERSON, GROUP OR ENTITY WITH WHOM THE COMMUNICATION TOOK PLACE. THE ORDER OF THIS PROCEEDING WILL BE AS FOLLOWS. FIRST, STAFF WILL MAKE HIS PRESENTATION, FOLLOWED BY THE APPLICANT THAN ANY OTHER INTERESTED PARTY. ANY SPEAKER MAY BE SUBJECT TO CROSS-EXAMINATION BY THE COUNCIL OR ANY OTHER INTERESTED PARTY. ANY OTHER PERSON MAY SPEAK FOR A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES. THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE ALLOWED. CONCLUDING REMARKS. THE QUASI JUDICIAL BODY MAY MODIFY THE TIME LIMITS ON ITS OWN MOTION OR UPON REQUEST OF A PARTY, TO THE PROCEEDING. THE HEARING WILL THEN BE CLOSED AND NO ADDITIONAL TESTIMONY OR ARGUMENT WILL BE ALLOWED. THE COUNCIL WILL THEN DELIBERATE IN PUBLIC AT THE END OF DELIBERATION. A COUNCIL MEMBER WILL MAKE A MOTION ON THE APPLICATION TO BRING THE MATTER TO A VOTE. EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER IS THEN FREE TO VOTE IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION. ORDINANCE 2025-2420262026-2424. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA REZONING TWO PARCELS LOCATED IN THE VICINITY OF MEDIPLEX PARKWAY, NORTHEAST FROM OFFICE PROFESSIONAL DISTRICT, OPP AND HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT HC, RESPECTIVELY, BOTH TO INSTITUTIONAL USE DISTRICT IU, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MR. MORTON. THANK YOU, MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL. I'M GOING TO DEFER THIS TO STAFF AS A QUASI JUDICIAL MATTER. SEE IF THEY HAVE ANY UPDATES OR ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR. ANY SPEAKER CARDS? NO. MAYOR. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL. SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION. SO MOVED. SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE. ALL IN FAVOR? SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER TWO, MADAM SMITH, ORDINANCE 2026-25, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE 17, LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. CHAPTER 173 ZONING SUBCHAPTER PART TWO STANDARD ZONING DISTRICT REGULATIONS BY ALLOWING HOSPITALS AS A PERMITTED USE AND TO ADDRESS HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS FOR SPECIFIED MEDICAL FACILITIES. PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT. HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES. PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE. PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU. MA'AM, I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING, MR. MORTON. THANK YOU AGAIN, HONORABLE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL. THIS IS A FINAL READING. NOTHING HAS CHANGED. STAFF IS HERE. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL. SEEING NONE. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? [02:35:08] SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION. SO MOVED. SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. SECOND BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE. ALL IN FAVOR? SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER THREE, MADAM SMITH. ORDINANCE 2026-28, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE FIVE LEGISLATIVE CHAPTER 54 FRANCHISES SUBCHAPTER GAS BY REPEALING SECTION 54.20. FLORIDA CITY GAS IN ITS ENTIRETY, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR DELETION FROM THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES. PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE. PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND DEFER TO MR. MORTON. THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN, HONORABLE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, THIS IS A FINAL READING. THERE ARE NO NEW OR NEW NEW CHANGES OR DEVELOPMENTS. STAFF IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. I DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT BEFORE I DO, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO DOCTOR BRIAN ROBINSON FOR WORKING ON THIS ISSUE HERE. SO CONGRATULATIONS ON GETTING US A GOOD DEAL. YOU'RE NOW CONSIDERED THE DEAL MAKER FOR OUR CITY. I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING ASKING FOR A MOTION. SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE HAS SECONDED. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. PASSES FIVE ZERO. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR, MADAM SMITH. ORDINANCE 2026-29, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE FIVE LEGISLATIVE CHAPTER 54 FRANCHISES SUBCHAPTER GAS BY CREATING SECTION 54.20 GRANTING TO FLORIDA CITY GAS COMPANY OF FLORIDA, A NON-EXCLUSIVE NATURAL GAS FRANCHISE IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, FLORIDA, INCLUDING THE RIGHT TO CONSTRUCT, MAINTAIN AND OPERATE GAS LINES PROVIDING FOR REGULATION OF THE GAS SYSTEM BY THE CITY. PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES. PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND DEFER TO MADAM JONES. OH. I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T REALIZE THIS WAS MY ITEM. I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL. OKAY. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR THIS? FOR OR AGAINST THIS? SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING, ASKING FOR A MOTION. SO MOVED. SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JAFFEE OR COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE. ALL IN FAVOR? SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE, MADAM SMITH. RESOLUTION 6-09. A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING RESOLUTION 2020-37 TO REVISE THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR EMERALD LAKES WEST PHASE TWO, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU. MA'AM, I'M OPENING UP THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND, MR. MORTON, THANK YOU, HONORABLE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL. I TURN THIS OVER TO STAFF TO PRESENT. GOOD EVENING. I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT HAS A PRESENTATION AS WELL, SO I'LL MAKE MINE BRIEF. WHAT YOU'RE SEEING ON THE. WHAT YOU'RE SEEING ON THE SCREEN IS THE EMERALD LAKES RACK. AND THE COLORED HASHED RED AREA IS THE ENTIRE PROJECT, WHICH IS 1561 ACRES. TONIGHT WE'RE ONLY LOOKING AT THE PORTION TO THE WEST OF I-95 TO BOTH THE NORTH AND SOUTH. THAT PORTION IS THE. EMERALD LAKES WEST. PHASE TWO EMERALD LAKES WEST. PHASE TWO WAS APPROVED FOR. 2181 RESIDENTIAL UNITS. THEY'RE MOVING SOME OF THE TOTAL UNITS TO THIS PHASE, AND THEY'RE ALSO SEEKING YOUR APPROVAL OF THEIR DESIGN GUIDELINES TONIGHT, WHICH INCLUDES 6060 FOOT WIDE LOTS AND AMENDMENTS TO THE WORKPLACE AND URBAN USES. THERE'S A LIST OF THE PERMITTED USES FOR COMMERCIAL THAT WAS NOT SPECIFIED IN THE ORIGINAL [02:40:01] FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. SO THAT'S BEING AMENDED. AND THE OVERALL NUMBER OF APPROVED UNITS FOR THE ENTIRE RACK IS NOT CHANGING. THE HIGHLIGHTS REALLY ARE JUST MOVING 11 APPROVED UNITS FROM THE ENTIRE APPROVAL OVER TO THIS PHASE. THAT'S NUMBER ONE, PROVIDING FOR A 60 FOOT WIDE LOTS, SPECIFYING THE COMMERCIAL USES PERMITTED THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE EMERALD LAKES. WHICH IS PART OF THE DESIGN GUIDELINES. THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING TODAY FOR THIS AMENDMENT, WHICH IS PROVIDED IN YOUR BACKUP. WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. COUNCIL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? WITH THAT, WE'LL ASK THE APPLICANT TO COME UP AND PRESENT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. THERE WE GO. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCILMAN. WE HAVE TONIGHT THE EMERALD LAKES PHASE TWO MODIFICATION. OUR FIRST SLIDE. I JUST WANT TO SUMMARIZE. WE HAVE BEEN IN THIS PROJECT SINCE 2010, WHEN WE FIRST GOT OUR LAND USE APPROVALS. WE STARTED GOING THROUGH 2010 REZONING CONCEPT PLAN. WE THEN COMBINED THEM INTO ONE PROJECT IN 2018. IN 2015, WE WORKED WITH THE CITY AND DOT TO DEDICATE AND DONATE RIGHT AWAY FOR SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY INTERCHANGE. THAT WAS IN 2015 AND 2020. WE THEN DID THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THIS FIRST PHASE, AND THAT IS WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON THIS EVENING. IT DID TAKE US UNTIL 2025 TO GET OUR MASTER WATER AND SEWER AGREEMENT. AND AS SOON AS WE HAD THAT IN PLACE, WE THEN HAVE AGGRESSIVELY PROCEEDED TO START THE DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS THE ENTIRE PROJECT, AND WHAT WE WANT TO SHOW TO YOU TONIGHT IS THAT WE HAVE FOUR CORNERS OF THE INTERCHANGE. THE TOTAL IS 3760 DWELLING UNITS. TWO POINT 8,000,000FT² OF NON RESIDENTIAL USES WHICH INCLUDE COMMERCIAL, HOTEL, OFFICE, LIGHT, INDUSTRIAL, INSTITUTIONAL AND RETAIL USES. NOW THESE USES ARE ABLE TO MOVE FROM ONE SECTION TO THE OTHER. SO FOR THIS PARTICULAR AMENDMENT WE ARE MOVING SOME FROM ONE OF THE CORNERS DOWN TO THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL AS WE WANTED TO PROVIDE A MIX OF UNITS. WE HAVE 40S 50S AND 70S IN THIS AREA. SO WE ADDED THE 60S IN THE NORTHWEST QUADRANT. WE ARE ALSO IN FOR APPROVALS FOR THE THREE PINK, YELLOW AND PURPLE I THINK AREAS FOR ANOTHER SET OF UNITS. WE ARE CURRENTLY ALSO HAVE APPROVALS IN FOR SOME FUTURE COMMERCIAL IN THE NORTHWEST QUADRANT, AS WELL AS IN THE SOUTHEAST QUADRANT. AND WE HAVE THE NORTHEAST QUADRANT WITH RESIDENTIAL UNITS IN FOR APPROVALS RIGHT NOW. SO HOPEFULLY BY THE END OF THIS YEAR, WE WILL HAVE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLANS ON THE ENTIRE PROJECT AND YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SEE THE ENTIRE PIECE AS BEING APPROVED. THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON TODAY. PHASE TWO FDP APPROVES EVERYTHING THAT IS IN COLOR. SO THE GREEN AREA ON THE NORTH IS CONSERVATION, WHICH HAS ALREADY BEEN DEDICATED, AND WETLANDS ON THE NORTH AND SOUTH AREA. THE AREA IN RED IS WHERE THE 11 LOTS ARE THAT WE ARE ADDING TO THIS PARTICULAR PHASE TO INCORPORATE 60 FOOT LOTS, AND WE ARE CHANGING NOT ONLY THE 60 FOOT LOTS, BUT WE'RE ADDING FINAL DESIGN GUIDELINES, WHICH STAFF REQUESTED, WHICH INCORPORATES THE 60 FOOT LOT STANDARDS. CHANGES TO THE SETBACKS, NONRESIDENTIAL USES TO WORKPLACE AND THE MIXED USE DISTRICT, AND ADDING DETAILS FOR LANDSCAPING, LIGHTING, PARKING, SIGNAGE AND GRAPHIC REPRESENTATIONS. TONIGHT WE HAVE WITH US THE EMERALD LAKES DEVELOPMENT TEAM, INCLUDING PETER VAN WARNER, PAUL PELOSI, COLE STONE. AND WE HAVE BIANNA BROWN WITH LENNAR. SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY ON ANY ITEM, AND JAKE WEISS, OBVIOUSLY THE ENGINEER THAT I WILL TURN IT OVER TO PETER TO PROCEED. THANK YOU. BRENDA. MY NAME IS PETER VAN WARNER, DEVELOPMENT MANAGER WITH EMERALD LAKES. AND AS SHE MENTIONED, PAUL PELOSI, PROJECT OWNER HERE AS WELL, I'D LIKE TO COIN HIS NAME, [02:45:04] PAUL PALM BAY PELOSI, BECAUSE HE TRULY DOES LOVE THE CITY. AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE ALL FOUR QUADRANTS OF EMERALD LAKES HERE. WE BELIEVE THAT THIS IS A COMMUNITY WITHIN A COMMUNITY, A CITY WITHIN A CITY. WE HAVE ALL DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT TYPES ENTERTAINMENT, RETAIL, OFFICE HOTEL, JOB CREATION. WE'VE HEARD FROM THE RESIDENTS OF PALM BAY, THEY WANT RESTAURANTS, WE HAVE RESTAURANTS. THAT'S A BIG FOCUS POINT FOR US. AS I MENTIONED, JOB CREATION, WE'RE WORKING RIGHT NOW WITH MULTIPLE ANCHOR TENANTS AND REALLY TRYING TO CREATE A THRIVING COMMUNITY HERE, A SOCIO ECONOMIC HUB, IF YOU WILL. WE BELIEVE THAT ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS OF DEVELOPMENT ARE IMPORTANT TO MAKE THIS A REALLY THRIVING COMMUNITY. WE HAVE BEEN INVESTING IN THIS PROJECT FOR A LONG TIME. RIGHT NOW WE'RE WORKING ON FOUR MILES OF UTILITY MAIN EXTENSIONS. THIS IS NO SMALL FEAT. JUST UNDER $20 MILLION TO GET THESE UTILITY MAINS HERE. RIGHT? I'M PROUD TO SAY THESE ARE 93% COMPLETE. DOING THE LAST BIT RIGHT THERE AT SAINT JOHN'S AND BABCOCK INTERSECTION. YOU'LL SEE THAT MACHINERY THERE FINISHING UP THAT WORK. IN ADDITION, THE NORTHWEST LOOP ROAD NORTHWEST QUADRANT IS 90% COMPLETE. WITH UTILITY PROCUREMENT UNDERWAY, SOUTHWEST ROADS AND HOME PADS ARE UNDERWAY. WE HAVE SOME OF THE HOMES GOING UP. ACTUALLY, THE MODEL HOMES ARE DONE. IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN BY, I'D ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO BY. THEY'RE REALLY IMPRESSIVE. AND THEN LAND IMPROVEMENTS AND LANDSCAPING IMPROVEMENTS ON SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE. HERE'S SOME UPDATE PHOTOS, SOME UPDATE DRONE PHOTOS. HERE YOU CAN SEE THE UTILITY MAINS GOING IN ADJACENT TO SAINT JOHN'S. AND THIS IS NOT ONLY UTILITIES SERVICING EMERALD LAKES. WE WORKED WITH GABE IN THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT TO PROVIDE OVERSIZE UTILITIES FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS IN THIS AREA. THIS IS THE ENTRANCE TO THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT WITH THE EMERALD LAKE SIGNAGE AND SOME OF THE NEW LANDSCAPING I MENTIONED, AND THEN JUST SOME VARIOUS UPDATE PHOTOS AND DRONE FOOTAGE. I'D LIKE TO NOTE THAT WE'D LIKE TO THINK OF OURSELVES AS ATYPICAL DEVELOPERS. WE'RE NOT PLANNING ON STABILIZING THIS AND FLIP IT. WE PLAN ON HOLDING THIS LONG TERM AND AND REALLY INVESTING IN THIS COMMUNITY. AND I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S SHOWN BY, BY HOW PAUL HAS INVESTED IN THIS COMMUNITY OVER THE LAST 15 YEARS. THIS IS THE NORTHWEST LOOP ROAD. AGAIN, SOME OF THE UTILITIES UNDERWAY. THIS NORTHWEST LOOP ROAD WILL TAKE JUST UNDER EIGHT MONTHS FROM NOW TO COMPLETE. AND AGAIN, MY NAME IS PETE VAN WAGONER AND PAUL AND MY CONTACT INFORMATION IS THERE. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE, BUT IF THEY'RE VERY DIFFICULT, PLEASE ASK JAKE. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL. I DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW. NO. OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO GO TURN OVER TO THE SPEAKERS AND THEN WE'LL CALL YOU BACK IF NEEDED. CARRY ON. BILL BATTEN. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST. AS YOU ALL KNOW AND AS THEY KNOW, I'VE BEEN PAYING ATTENTION TO THIS FOR A LONG, LONG TIME. IN FACT, IT WAS ONE OF MY ONE OF MY EARLIER ADDRESSES THAT I MADE TO THE CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE I WAS UPSET WITH THE FACT THAT CERTAIN THINGS WERE GOING TO BE HAPPENING IN WHAT THEY CALLED EMERALD LAKES AT THE TIME, AND IT ENDED UP COSTING THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY APPROXIMATELY $12 MILLION TO EXPAND A LITTLE BIT OF THE ROAD TO CONNECT IT TO BABCOCK. AND IT CAME OFF THE BACK OF THE RESIDENTS. SO IT CREATED HATE AND DISCONTENT WITH BILL BATTEN. I'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TALKING WITH SOME OF THESE INDIVIDUALS ALSO, AND I KNOW IT'S A GOOD PROJECT. DON'T GET ME WRONG, IT'S GOING TO BE BENEFICIAL, BUT I'M ALWAYS THE DOUBTING TOM IN WHAT WHAT'S HAPPENING WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY. SO I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. WE'RE SEEING LOTS OF HOUSING CHANGING, AND THE ONLY CHANGE THIS IS COMING UP FOR IS BECAUSE WE WANT MORE HOUSING. IT'S ONLY 11 HOUSES. NO BIG DEAL. BUT IT'S STILL REQUESTING A CHANGE. BUT I DON'T SEE HAPPENING BECAUSE IT WAS PRESENTED TO US WITH ALL THIS GRAND GESTURE, ALL THIS GREAT THINGS THAT WERE GOING TO HAPPEN. THAT'S HOW IT WAS PRESENTED AND SOLD TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY FOR US TO INVEST IN. BUT I DON'T SEE ANY OF THE MEDICAL TRAINING FACILITIES THAT WERE GOING TO BE COMING IN. I DON'T SEE ANY OF THE TOWN CENTER BEING PRESENTED THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN THERE. I DON'T SEE ANY OF THE HOSPITAL THAT WAS THAT WAS ET CETERA. THAT WE'RE ALL GOING TO BE PRESENTED RIGHT. ALL I DO SEE, THOUGH, IS MORE HOUSES. THAT'S THAT'S ALL. IT SEEMS THAT WHILE WE'RE GETTING RIGHT, I UNDERSTAND THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, WELL, WE NEED THE ROOFTOPS TO BRING THE BUSINESS. BUT THE PLAN WAS PRESENTED TO THE CITY WITH A WHOLE BUNCH OF STUFF EDUCATIONAL CAPABILITIES, SCHOOLS, HOSPITAL, ALL OF THAT WAS WHAT WAS PRESENTED FOR US TO ACCEPT IT. SO I'M JUST, YOU PROGRESS TAKES TIME. MAYBE. BUT I ALSO NOTICED. HEARD SOMETHING ABOUT PUTTING IN A TRUCKING TRANSFER STATION IN THE CAPABILITIES FOR THE BUSINESS THAT'S GOING TO BE IN THERE. [02:50:04] AND TRUCKING TRANSFER STATION DOESN'T SOUND ANYTHING LIKE MEDICAL TRAINING. DOESN'T SOUND ANYTHING LIKE A HOSPITAL. IT DOESN'T SOUND ANYTHING LIKE A TOWN CENTER OR A RESTAURANT. AND THAT WAS I DIDN'T SEE THAT IN ANY OF THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATION OR DOCUMENTATION. THAT BEING SAID, THEY'VE INVESTED A LIFETIME AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO GET US HERE. AND THEY WERE THE THEY PUT THEIR MONEY AND EFFORT UP FRONT WHEN I HAD OTHER DEVELOPERS THAT WERE. HOW CAN I SAY THIS A LITTLE LESS PROACTIVE? THAT BEING SAID, I WISH YOU LUCK, BUT I WANT TO SEE SOME OF THE BUSINESS SIDE COMING IN INSTEAD OF MORE HOMES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NO ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS. I'LL I'LL GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD. DID YOU GATHER HIS. YES, SIR. QUESTIONS? ABSOLUTELY. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. REALLY THE SUMMARY OF IT IS IS YES, THE ROOFTOPS DO DRIVE BUSINESS WHEN THERE ARE MORE ROOFTOPS THAN THE BUSINESSES ARE MORE WILLING TO COME. I CAN ASSURE YOU, WE ARE IN FINAL TALKS WITH MULTIPLE OF THE BUSINESSES WHO ARE CLOSING WITHIN THE NEXT 2 TO 4 MONTHS. SO YOU WILL SEE THAT JOB CREATION AS FAR AS THE TRUCK DEPOT. IT'S, IT'S REALLY A CLARIFICATION AND IT'S NOT, I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR IT IS NOT HEAVY INDUSTRIAL. THIS IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. THINK L3 HARRIS THEY HAVE TRUCKS THAT COME IN DELIVER EQUIPMENT AND THEN THEY LEAVE. THEY'RE NOT STAGING THERE FOR WEEKS ON END. SO THIS IS MERELY A CLARIFICATION OF THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USE, WHICH IS WHICH IS CURRENTLY ALLOWED IN THE RACK. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLARIFICATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. COUNCIL, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING. I NEED A MOTION. SECOND. GOT A I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE. SINGING IT BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. IS THAT GOOD? YES, SIR. THAT'S GOOD. BEFORE YOU CALL IT ONE THING. YEAH, I'M. I'M GONNA PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, MR. PALUZZI. I LOVE YOU. I KNOW THINGS ARE DELAYED IN FORT PIERCE IN REGARDS TO A BUCKY'S. IF THERE'S STILL ANY APPETITE OR ANYTHING. I'M JUST GOING. YEAH. THAT'S GOOD. THAT'S GOOD. OH THAT'S GOOD. WE ALREADY. WE ALREADY CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING. YEAH. WE CAN TALK OFFLINE, BUT I JUST WANT TO. I'M THROWING A HAIL MARY. YEAH, I'M THROWING A HAIL MARY. SO I LIKE THE BRISKET. BUT SO JUST PUTTING THAT OUT THERE. THAT'S ALL MAYOR BECAUSE YOU'VE SPOKEN ON IT MULTIPLE TIMES. YEAH. AND I LIKE THE TANGIERS OUTLET OR THAT TYPE OF THING. YEAH. YOU KNOW, IS IT. IT'S NOT PLURAL. IT'S TANG. YEAH. YEAH, YEAH. I SEE THEM POP UP EVERYWHERE ON THE WEST COAST, ON THE EAST COAST. IT'D BE NICE TO HAVE ONE IN THE BAY, BUT I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. ALL IN FAVOR? SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER ONE, MR. MORTON OF NEW BUSINESS. [NEW BUSINESS:] BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, WE HAVE A CONSIDERATION OF AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH BREVARD COUNTY FOR CONTINUATION OF THE SAVE OUR INDIAN RIVER LAGOON. LOCAL INFRASTRUCTURE SURTAX. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR. DEPUTY MAYOR. NO CARDS OR. I'M SORRY, DOUG HOOKE. OH, YOU DID THAT ON PURPOSE. OKAY. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL DOUG HOOKE, 1091. MARIPOSA. YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LAGOON, SO I'M GOING TO HAVE TO COME UP AND SAY SOMETHING. I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU GUYS MY FULL BACKING. I LOVE THE LAGOON. I LOVE SORREL. THE PROGRAM HAS DONE PHENOMENAL THINGS FOR BREVARD COUNTY UP AND DOWN THE ENTIRE LAGOON SYSTEM. WE'RE THE ONLY COUNTY IN THE ENTIRE STATE THAT HAS A PROGRAM LIKE THIS. IT IS A SHINING EXAMPLE OF WHAT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS CAN DO TO INCREASE OUR TO IMPROVE THE ENVIRONMENT, TO IMPROVE THE WATER QUALITY IN THE LAGOON. WE'RE SEEING THINGS THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN IN DECADES IN THE LAGOON, CLEAR WATER. YOU CAN SEE SANDY BOTTOMS OF THE LAGOON. IT'S GREAT. SEAGRASSES ARE COMING BACK. I WANT YOU GUYS TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU PUT YOUR BACKING BEHIND THIS AND MAKE SURE THAT THE SOIL PROGRAM IS RENEWED FOR ANOTHER TEN YEARS, AND WE CAN KEEP THIS MARATHON GOING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NO OTHER SPEAKERS? NO. MAYOR. I NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED. SECOND. I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN HAMER, SINGING BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. ALL IN FAVOR? SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'RE NOW ON REPORTS. COUNCILMAN LANAKILA. [COUNCIL REPORTS:] YOU GUYS HAVE A GREAT NIGHT. COUNCILMAN HAMMER. I DON'T GOT NOTHING. COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON. OH, I'M SORRY GUYS. [02:55:01] I'M SORRY GUYS. I'M SORRY. GUYS. OH, MAN. ALL RIGHT, I'LL TRY TO BE AS BRIEF AS POSSIBLE. FIRST ONE, I WOULD LIKE TO DO AN RFP FOR THE MARKETING OF BUS BENCHES AND BUS SHELTERS. I GOT A CONTACT FROM MAYOR ANDREW CONNORS OF TITUSVILLE, AND THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO UTILIZE THE ORGANIZATION OR COMPANY WHERE IT'S AT NO COST TO THE CITY. IS THAT NO COST TO THE RESIDENTS? HOW THEY GET THEIR FUNDING IS THROUGH LOCAL BUSINESSES AND SPONSORS THAT ACTUALLY ARE ADVERTISING ON THE BUS SHELTERS AND BUS BENCHES. SO I WOULD LIKE FOR US, I INTRODUCE THE GENTLEMAN TO MR. GROGAN WHILE WE STILL HAVE HIM. AND I WOULD JUST LIKE FOR US TO GIVE STAFF DIRECTION TO PUT OUT AN RFP, SO THAT WAY WE CAN UTILIZE THOSE SERVICES TO UPGRADE OUR BUS BENCHES AND BUS SHELTERS IN THE NECESSARY AREAS OF PALM BAY. AND IT'S HAD NO COST, NO COST FREE, YEAH, YOU GOT YOU GOT A THUMBS UP HERE. YES, SIR. I THINK WE GOT WE GOT CONSENSUS. YEAH. JUST MAKE SURE THIS YOU GOT CONSENSUS. YEAH YEAH YEAH. I'M I, I JUST YOU KNOW WHAT I JUST SAID IT. WE GOT IT. Y'ALL GOT THAT. I JUST SAID IT. I SEE THE THUMBS UP, DUDE. ALL RIGHT. TWO MORE THINGS. ONE, THE POLLS BEEN A HOT DISCUSSION. I'VE SEEN A LOT OF FEEDBACK ON THAT. MORE I GUESS I'M LOOKING MORE SO WHERE STAFF IS. I'VE SPOKEN WITH STAFF AND SOME OF THE STRATEGIES THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT. I AGREE WITH, I WANTED JUST AN UPDATE BECAUSE WE HAVE THE UPCOMING BUDGET HEARING AND WE HAVE, I'M SEEING A LOT OF ENGAGEMENT ON ONLINE, BUT WE NEED THAT ENGAGEMENT IN REGARDS TO VOLUNTEERS TO MAN THE POOL OR EVEN THE CONTRACT WE HAVE WITH EASTERN FLORIDA STATE COLLEGE AND BREVARD PUBLIC SCHOOLS. AND WE ALSO HAVE ANOTHER CONTRACT THAT WENT LIVE IN 2019 IN REGARDS TO A PARTNERSHIP WITH BREVARD PUBLIC SCHOOLS OF US BEING ABLE TO UTILIZE THEIR FACILITIES AND VICE VERSA, WHICH I FEEL THEY'RE UTILIZING OUR FACILITIES MORE. BUT THESE ARE JUST THINGS I JUST WANTED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION WHILE WE CAN. AND THE LAST THING WITH THAT SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER, KATIE CAMPBELL AND BRANDON SHERILL OF BAYSIDE ATHLETIC DIRECTOR MENTIONED THAT THEY HAVE AN ONGOING CONTRACT CURRENTLY IN REGARDS TO UTILIZING THE POOL AND MOU. YES. YEAH. TO NOVEMBER. SO THAT WAS THE OTHER DISCUSSION I JUST WANTED TO HAVE AS A COUNCIL BEFORE WE COME UP ON THE BUDGET HERE OF WHERE WE ARE. I HAVE ONE MORE THING, BUT JUST WANTED TO KIND OF GAUGE WHERE WE ARE ON THAT. AND THEN WE'LL GO TO THE LAST THING I THINK I WOULD WANT TO KEEP THE POOL OPEN. I THINK I SAID THAT EVEN BEFORE WE WENT TO ROLLBACK THAT THAT WAS GOING TO AFFECT THE POOL. I THINK EVERYONE UNDERSTOOD, BUT THAT'S WHERE I'M AT. OKAY. WHAT ARE YOU ASKING FOR US TO GET AN UPDATE FROM STAFF OR WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH THE POOL? A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING. SO UPDATE FROM STAFF. ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT STAFF HAD SENT ME AN EMAIL ON WAS, WHICH I AGREE WITH WAS KEEPING IT OPEN JUST DURING THE PEAK TIME, WHICH WOULD BE MARCH TO OCTOBER OR SOMEWHERE AROUND THAT TIME, I BELIEVE I MIGHT GET, I MIGHT BE OFF BY A LITTLE BIT. BUT THEN ALSO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HOW WE CAN UTILIZE, WHETHER IT'S THE YMCA OR ANY POTENTIAL PARTNERS TO. BROTHER I GOT. YEAH, THE YMCA ACTUALLY WAS WORKING WITH EASTERN FLORIDA STATE COLLEGE AND THERE WAS A AND I SPOKE WITH JACK PARKER, THE FORMER SHERIFF WHO IS THE VICE PRESIDENT OF EASTERN FLORIDA STATE COLLEGE. THEY HAD SOMETHING IN PLACE, AND THEN THEY REALIZED THAT THEY COULDN'T. NOW THAT POOL WAS A LITTLE LARGER, RIGHT? AND NOW THEY HAD TO COVER IT UP. SO I WOULDN'T YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE FAITH IN THAT. I THINK IT'S ON US. SO I'M BEING TRANSPARENT. I THOUGHT I SHARED THIS BEFORE BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO, TO GET OTHER ENTITIES INVOLVED. I WANTED EASTERN FLORIDA TO PARTNER WITH US. AND THEY, THEY'VE BEEN HAMSTRUNG WITH SOME HEALTH INSURANCE ISSUES. SO THAT'S, I WENT DOWN THAT PATH. SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT ELSE YOU'RE THINKING, BUT WELL, MAYBE WE COULD TALK. I THINK I KNOW THAT MR. MORTON HAS SOME SCHEDULED MEETINGS THIS WEEK. OKAY. REGARDING THE POOL IN PARTICULAR, I KNOW THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'D LIKE. MR. MORTON. WOULD YOU LIKE TO WEIGH IN ON THAT? JUST. JUST BRIEF. YEAH. WE'VE HAD SEVERAL UPDATES, INCLUDING WITH EASTERN FLORIDA STATE COLLEGE. WE MET WITH BREVARD COUNTY AND OTHERS, AND SO FAR IT'S THE SAME STORY. YOU KNOW, IT'S A GREAT ASSET, BUT WE HAVE NOTHING TO GIVE YOU, NOTHING TO HELP WITH. I'VE GOT FOUR ADDITIONAL MEETINGS. I BELIEVE THEY'RE THE WEEK AFTER THIS WITH DIFFERENT USER GROUPS WHO HAVE OFFERED TO BRING HELP, BRING SOLUTIONS TO THE TABLE. I DON'T REALLY HAVE A HANDLE ON WHAT ANY OF THOSE ARE YET. AND WE CONTINUE TO KEEP THAT DOOR FOR THAT CONVERSATION OPEN TO SEE IF WE CAN FIND ANY MONEY. RIGHT NOW, IT IS NOT BUILT INTO THE BALANCED BUDGET. [03:00:01] WE, AGAIN, WE HAVE DRASTICALLY, I THINK UNSUSTAINABLY REDUCED OVERTIME. WE HAVE NO GENERAL FUND FLEET PURCHASES. WE ARE DOING NO CITYWIDE MAINTENANCE. I HAVE NO RESERVE FOR AN AIR CONDITIONER AT A SENIOR CENTER THAT COULD GO DOWN, WHICH HAPPENED THIS YEAR, COINCIDENTALLY. SO UNLESS YOU GUYS HAVE A DIRECTION ON WHAT OTHER LINE ITEM WE SHOULD CUT. AND AGAIN, I'M BACK TO THE FAMOUS STATEMENT FOR EVERY CONSTITUENCY, THERE'S A LINE ITEM AND WE CAN GET ANOTHER GROUP IN HERE TELLING US, PLEASE DON'T CUT THAT. I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO DO. THE AVERAGE COST PER PERSON AT THE POOL IS ABOUT $68 PER PERSON PER VISIT, SO IT'S NOT TARGETING SOMETHING THAT ISN'T VALUABLE. IT'S TARGETING SOMETHING THAT'S VALUABLE, BUT CURRENTLY AT A VERY HIGH COST PER CAPITA OF USAGE. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO KEEP WORKING ON IT. BUT RIGHT NOW I DON'T HAVE ANY MEANINGFUL SOLUTIONS ON THE TABLE. OKAY. SO WHAT COULD HELP IS ONE FINDING A WAY TO SAVE IN REGARDS TO THE POOL KEEPING IT OPEN AND TWO, FINDING SOMETHING ELSE WHERE WE AS A COUNCIL ARE WILLING TO CUT IF WE'RE SAYING WE WANT THE POOL OPEN. CORRECT. JUST TELL ME WHAT TO CUT. ALL RIGHT. YEAH. THAT'S WHY I SAID SIX. SEVEN. RIGHT. THAT'S BECAUSE IT SIX SEVEN AMOUNTED TO WHAT, $15 OR OR. NO. AND IT'S NOT SIX. SEVEN. NO, NO. IT AMOUNTS TO WHATEVER IT WAS, 15 OR 20, $20 FOR THE YEAR OR LESS THAN 20 FOR THE YEAR. BUT GO AHEAD, SIR. COUNCILMAN, DIDN'T THEY SAY FLOC WAS COMING FROM THE GENERAL FUND NOW? YOU'RE ASKING HOW MUCH WE'RE GOING TO SAVE? YEAH. NO, I DON'T WANT TO SAY THAT MUCH. I MEAN, IT'S 250,000, I THINK, ISN'T IT? IT PROBABLY SOLVES YOUR NOVEMBER QUESTION. I WOULD CONFIDENTLY BELIEVE IT SOLVES NOVEMBER MAYBE, YOU KNOW, NOVEMBER THROUGH THE SCHOOL CONTRACT. AND THEN WE CAN SEE ABOUT THE BUSY SEASON AGAIN. BUT I WOULD SUSPECT IT WOULD AT LEAST GET YOU A MONTH. I DON'T HAVE AN EXACT DOLLAR AMOUNT, BUT. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON. HOLD ON. LET'S SEE WHAT WE GOT. I GOT EVERYBODY WEIGHING IN. I GOT COUNCILMAN HAMMER. IT ALL CAME IN AT THE SAME TIME. COUNCILMAN HAMMER, YOU'RE UP THEN FOLLOWED BY COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN. YEAH, I YOU KNOW, I'M JUST GOING TO, YOU KNOW, I'M I'M THE LOGICAL GUY, SO I'M JUST GOING TO SAY IT WHEN WE BALANCE THE BUDGET, YOU GOT WANTS AND YOU GOT NEEDS AND WE'VE GOT A POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT NEEDS MORE OFFICERS AND NEEDS NEW VEHICLES. WE GOT A FIRE STATION THAT'S GOT MULTIPLE FIREHOUSES THAT NEEDS TO BE BUILT. THE MONEY'S JUST NOT THERE AND WE NEED TO JUST MOVE ON FROM THE POOL THING, IN MY OPINION. AND IT, IT'S WANTS AND NEEDS. SO I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT IT. I DON'T MEAN TO RIP THE BAND AID OFF AND BE A JERK, BUT IT'S A WANT WE NEED TO FOCUS ON OUR NEEDS. OKAY. COUNCIL ARE DEPUTY MAYOR. YEAH. SO THE COUNCILMAN JOHNSON'S POINT. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HONOR OUR AGREEMENT WITH OUR WITH THE BREVARD COUNTY SCHOOLS THROUGH THE END OF NOVEMBER. AND ECHO COUNCILMAN LANGMAN'S PERSPECTIVE AS WELL, UNLESS THE MEETINGS THAT TAKE PLACE FROM NOW UNTIL OUR NEXT BUDGET MEETING, SOMEONE COMES FORWARD WITH A MORE PERMANENT RESOLUTION. I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE OUTCOME OF THE POOL LOOKS LIKE, BUT I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO HONOR OUR AGREEMENT WITH THE WITH THE FOLKS THAT ARE EXPECTING TO HAVE USE OF THE POOL TILL THE END OF NOVEMBER. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ARE YOU GOOD? YES, I'M I'M GOOD WITH THAT. ONE LAST THING. THIS IS NUMBER THREE. THIS IS NUMBER THREE. ALL RIGHT. I'M GONNA GET Y'ALL OUT SOON. WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON WITHIN THE CITY. WE HAVE NO UPCOMING NOVEMBER WITH PROPERTY TAX. WE'RE LOOKING TO PROPERLY FUND AND MAKE SURE WE'RE SUPPORTING OUR FIRST RESPONDERS. THERE'S SOME FEAR AND WORRY OUT THERE. AND I KNOW ME INITIALLY BACK IN 2019, I HAD A NEGATIVE LOOK ON THIS APPROACH, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD DO OURSELVES A SERVICE IN REGARDS TO LOOKING OF HOW WE CAN IMPROVE SPECIFICALLY IN REGARDS TO FIRST RESPONDERS. AND I'M REFERRING TO THE AUDIT. I DID IT, WHAT I, YOU AND MYSELF MAYOR WERE TRYING TO GO FOR THE INSPECTOR GENERAL. THERE WASN'T AN APPETITE FOR THAT. I'VE ALREADY TALKED TO STATE REPRESENTATIVE MONIQUE MILLER, AND SHE WILL BE IN FAVOR OF IT AS WELL. BUT BEFORE WE'RE GOING TO REALLY TRY TO GO FOR MORE FUNDING FOR BOTH DEPARTMENTS, I WANT TO LOOK TO MAKE SURE WHERE WE ARE, HOW CAN WE IMPROVE AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE CAN IMPROVE UPON BEFORE WE'RE ASKING FOR MORE ALLOCATION TO FUND THOSE DEPARTMENTS. BECAUSE INITIALLY I WAS LOOKING AT AUDITING AS BACK THEN IN 2019, I WAS LOOKING AT IT AS JUST A TARGETED APPROACH, WHICH I DO THINK IT WAS POLITICIZED BACK THEN STILL. [03:05:01] BUT UNDERSTANDING WHAT I KNOW NOW IN GOVERNMENT, IT'S A WAY OF RECOGNIZING, OKAY, THIS IS AN AREA OF NEEDED IMPROVEMENT AND LET'S ADDRESS IT AND LET'S MOVE ON FROM THERE. WE DID IT WITH A 19 FINDINGS THAT WE DID OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, AND IT'S ALLOWED US TO OPERATE AS A BETTER CITY BECAUSE OF THAT. SO JUST WANTED CONSENSUS ON GOING TO THE STATE REPRESENTATIVE MONIQUE MILLER, IN REGARDS TO AUDIT FOR THOSE AREAS. WHAT AREAS? FIRST RESPONDERS. SO POLICE AND FIRE. SO YOU WANT TO AUDIT OUR POLICE AND FIRE? OKAY. WELL, IN 2019, WE HAD THE WHOLE. WHAT IN PARTICULAR? I KNOW THAT POLICE GOES THROUGH THAT ACCREDITATION AND THEY, THERE'S AN INDEPENDENT AUDIT FOR THEM TO, TO GET THAT TO THAT. SO I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT, WHAT ARE WE ALL. WELL, THAT'S THE THING WE, WE AS A GOVERNING BODY, I, I'VE FOUND MYSELF IN THE PAST FEW YEARS AND PREVIOUSLY I WAS TRYING TO LEARN EVERY SINGLE LITTLE THING. THAT'S NOT OUR JOB. WE'RE NOT MEANT TO MICROMANAGE, BUT WE ARE MEANT TO LEGISLATE. AND I FEEL THIS IS A PROPER USE OF LEGISLATING TO SEE HOW WE CAN IMPROVE IN THOSE DEPARTMENTS. NO, I'M I'M TRACKING YOU THERE. I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT ARE WE AUDITING THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT OR. YEAH, NOT THE WHOLE NOT THE WHOLE CITY. WE CAN GO. WE CAN GO THROUGH THE WHOLE CITY. I'M FINE WITH THAT. BUT I WAS JUST TRYING TO START SMALL AND GO FROM THERE. BUT JUST THE DEPARTMENTS AS A WHOLE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO LOOK FOR. I'M NOT PINPOINTING ANY LITTLE THING. SO YEAH. SO ALL RIGHT, SO LET'S SEE IF YOU GOT CONSENSUS THERE. COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN THUMBS UP OR NO. I THINK THAT A LACK AUDIT IS A, IS A, IS A BIG COMMITMENT AND A LOT OF WORK AND A LOT OF WORK ON THE STATE AND THE LEGISLATOR AND TAXPAYER DOLLARS. SO I WANT TO, I WANT TO HAVE A REASON AND BE OPEN ABOUT IT. AND I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE CITY MANAGER'S OPINION IS. AND IF HE SAYS WE NEED TO AND GO IN A CERTAIN AREA, I'M FOR IT. BUT I DON'T, I DON'T WANT TO BE FOR IT JUST BECAUSE WE KIND OF WANT TO DO IT. I WANT TO KNOW BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT WHAT IT'S FOR. I WANT IT TO BE ADDRESSED IN THE PUBLIC AND THEN I'LL SAY, YES, SIR. COUNCILMAN HAMMOND, I ECHO THE SAME. OKAY. BUT WHEN I WAS HERE AS AN EMPLOYEE, WE ACTUALLY HAD AUDITORS ON STAFF. DO WE NOT HAVE AUDITORS ON STAFF STILL? I THINK THAT'S A QUESTION FOR OUR CITY MANAGER. NO, NOT NOT IN THAT REGARD. NO. OKAY. COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN WANTS TO HEAR. ARE YOU DONE WITH THAT? COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN WANTS TO HEAR FROM YOU, SIR, REGARDING YOUR INPUT ON, YOU KNOW. SO, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING COUNCILMAN JOHNSON SAID RESONATED WITH ME BECAUSE HE DID BRING UP THIS ISSUE MONTHS AGO, AND I CHALLENGED HIM AND SAID, YOU KNOW, NO, THIS IS LET US LET US DO OUR WORK. AND IN THAT TIME, I ALSO ATE MY WHEATIES AND WENT BACK AND, AND REREAD THE WHOLE INITIAL AUDIT FINDINGS AND THE SUMMARY. FOLLOW UP POST, CONCLUSION DOCUMENT FROM BEFORE, FROM BEFORE. AND YOU KNOW, IF I'M CANDIDLY HONEST, I'M SURE IT WAS PAINFUL AND DIFFICULT, BUT THE POSITION THAT IT PUT THE CITY IN TODAY IS ABSOLUTELY STRONGER AND MORE FAVORABLE THAN WE WERE PRE AUDIT. AND SO, YOU KNOW, MY PHILOSOPHY IS THAT WHATEVER COUNCIL DECIDES IN TERMS OF A AUDIT IN ITS SCOPE, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET A CHALLENGE FROM ME. I BELIEVE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT TRANSPARENCY IS GOOD AS YOU'VE HELD ME TO BE TRANSPARENT AND ACCOUNTABLE. RIGHT. I DON'T THINK IT'S A PUNITIVE TOOL OR A SEARCH FOR FAULT. I THINK IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY WE CAN USE TO BUILD STRENGTHS, SUPPORT OUR PUBLIC SAFETY PERSONNEL, STRENGTHEN ORGANIZATIONAL PERFORMANCE, AND POSITION OUR PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICES FOR CONTINUED EXCELLENCE, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, BE TRANSPARENT AND ACCOUNTABLE TO US BETWEEN STAFF AND MANAGEMENT AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, TO YOU AND THE CITIZENS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO SERVE. WE'RE ENTERING SOME INCREDIBLY CHALLENGING FISCAL TIMES. AND I THINK IF WE DON'T LOOK AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO VALIDATE WHAT WE DO, THEN, THEN WE'RE NOT DOING WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO. ALL RIGHT. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. YOU KNOW WHAT I HAD SAID MONTHS AGO MAYBE A YEAR OR SO AGO, IS THAT RACHEL SADOFF OFFERED HER SERVICES WHEN IT CAME TO AUDITING OUR OUR CITY. SO SHOULD WE GO DOWN THAT PATH FIRST, OR YOU JUST WANT TO GO THROUGH THE JEALOUSY? I DON'T KNOW. IS IT THE SAME THING? I WOULDN'T THINK SO. I COULDN'T ANSWER THAT. I'M JUST TELLING YOU IN THE CONVERSATIONS WITH. OKAY. YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY CLERK, SHE SHE OFFERED THOSE SERVICES. WAS IT A YEAR OR SO AGO THAT I CAME? YEAH. I REMEMBER THE CONVERSATION. I THINK IT WAS A YEAR AGO. YEAH. BUT I DON'T THINK IT WOULD. YEAH. I THINK THAT WOULD BE MORE OF JUST FINANCIAL. YEAH. I'M NOT SURE HER OFFICE IS IS UP ON BEST PRACTICES OF POLICE AND FIRE. AND I THINK SHE'S MORE OF MORE OF A MONEY WISE. SHE OFFERED. AND SO AND I, I OFFERED IT TO THIS COUNCIL TWICE NOW. SO I'M I'M I'M RESPECTFUL. DEPUTY MAYOR. I'LL SUPPORT COUNCILMAN JOHNSON'S REQUEST. [03:10:07] OKAY. SO YOU GOT CONSENSUS. ALL RIGHT, THAT'S CLEAR. YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. IS THAT IS THAT IT? THAT'S ALL. ALRIGHT. DEPUTY MAYOR? NO REPORT. OKAY. SO I'LL START OFF WITH MINE. RIGHT. I'M GOING TO. THREE OF US WENT OUT ON, YOU KNOW, SHORT NOTICE REQUESTING TO BE REIMBURSED FOR MILEAGE FOR THAT TRIP TO JACKSONVILLE. AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE COUNCILMAN HAMMER AND MYSELF. OBVIOUSLY, WE CAN'T DRIVE IN ONE VEHICLE BECAUSE OF THE SUNSHINE, BUT WE, WE WENT. AND SO I AM REQUESTING THAT. ARE WE GOOD? I ENDED UP CONDUCTING SOME OTHER BUSINESS WHILE I WAS IN THAT PART OF THE STATE. SO I'M JUST GOING TO ABSTAIN FROM ACCEPTING OH. DID YOU DO SOMETHING ELSE? YEAH. I HAVE A SOME PROJECTS IN THE NORTH FLORIDA AREA, SO. WELL, THAT WAS AWESOME. WELL, COUNCILMAN HAMMER AND MYSELF, DID YOU CONDUCT BUSINESS, TOO? I DIDN'T, BUT I'M. I'M ALL FOR EITHER OR. I, I ENJOYED THIS CITY, MY CITY, THIS CITY BUSINESS ON. SO YOU'RE GOOD. YEAH. I'M GOOD TO SUPPORT YOU GUYS FOR REIMBURSEMENT. OKAY. SO WE'RE GOOD WITH THE SUPPORT FOR FOR REIMBURSEMENT. I WANT TO APPOINT WILLIAM PRICE TO OUR INFRASTRUCTURE ADVISORY OVERSIGHT BOARD. AND I AM ALSO, GENTLEMEN GOING TO EMAIL TO OCTOBER 9TH AND 10TH. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT'LL THAT'LL BE EMAIL TO AND I'LL CATCH UP TO DEPUTY MAYOR. BECAUSE YOU DID ALL THREE, CORRECT? YES, SIR. I'M I'M CATCHING UP. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORTS. [ADMINISTRATIVE AND LEGAL REPORTS:] MR. MORTON, THANK YOU, MR. COUNCIL. YOU KNOW,. FIRST OF ALL, I'M JUST GOING TO I'M GOING TO EMAIL YOU, BUT I'M GOING TO POINT THIS OUT BECAUSE I THINK IT'S WORTH POINTING OUT. BUT I KNOW PEOPLE WONDER WHAT WE DO A LOT OF TIMES AND WHAT STAFF IS DOING. AND I'VE HEARD ALL KINDS OF COMMENTS MADE, BUT YOU KNOW BECAUSE THEY'RE BUSY AND THEY CARE, OUR FINANCE, SOME OF OUR FINANCE TEAM IS IN THE OFFICE WORKING RIGHT NOW AT 9:00 AT NIGHT. AND THEY'RE ALSO WATCHING THE MEETING BECAUSE THEY WANT TO KNOW. AND SO I JUST, WE JUST GOT A MESSAGE THAT FINANCE IS MAKING THE CHANGES RIGHT NOW TO THE BUDGET SO THAT THE ADVERTISED BUDGET HEARING NUMBERS ARE ACCURATE IN RESPECTS TO DEFUNDING THE FLOCK LINE ITEM, NO AMENDMENT WILL BE NECESSARY TO BE ADDED TO THE MEETING NEXT WEEK. AND IT'S ALREADY BEEN CONFIRMED THROUGH TERESE THAT OUR CLERK THAT WE'RE GOOD TO GO. SO WE GOT STAFF WORKING AROUND THE CLOCK. OKAY. SO WHILE YOU CLAP FOR THAT, PLEASE CLAP. ALSO, FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO REALLY CARE ABOUT THIS CITY AND GREAT STAFF THAT LITERALLY WORKS NIGHT AND DAY. SO WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST, JUST AN ADVISORY NOTICE. I'VE BEEN, I'VE BEEN OUT, I THINK THE LAST 3 OR 4 FRIDAYS, SOMETHING KEEPS COMING UP, WHETHER IT'S MEETINGS, OFF SITE MEETINGS IN THE COUNTY. AND AGAIN TOMORROW WILL BE UP NORTH IN TITUSVILLE COCOA AREA FOR A COUPLE MEETINGS. SO I WISH EVERYONE A GREAT WEEKEND AND A BIG THANKS TO OUR POLICE, OUR FIRE, OUR PUBLIC WORKS ON CALL, OUR UTILITIES ON CALL, WHO WILL BE WATCHING, WORKING AND WAITING ALL WEEKEND THROUGH THE CITY TO RESPOND TO EMERGENCIES AND KEEP THE CITY MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. SO I'M APPRECIATIVE TO EVERYBODY AS WE ENJOY OUR END OF SUMMER HOLIDAY WEEKEND. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU VERY, VERY. OH, THAT'S IT, THAT'S IT. OH, NO. ONE MORE THING, I GUESS. NO THANK YOU. ARE YOU SURE? YEAH. I'LL WAIT. THANK YOU. WHAT WAS THAT ABOUT? I THINK I'VE TOLD COUNCIL AND EVERYBODY. MAYOR, YOU WERE SUCCESSFUL. YOU WERE ALWAYS SUCCESSFUL. WE FINALLY HAVE THE LONG AWAITED AS ONE OF THE LAST, YOU KNOW, KEY LYNCHPINS THAT WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO, TO TO DO AS YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN PRIORITIES, WHICH IS HOW THE HECK ARE WE GOING TO KEEP SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY MOVING? SO ON THE CITY OR THE COUNTY COMMISSION MEETING ON THE 15TH IS A LETTER BEFORE THEM TO PARTNER WITH US ON THE NEXT KEY CRITICAL ELEMENT OF THIS. AND SO STAFF WILL BE ATTENDING, I THINK I SENT COUNCIL EMAIL YOU CAN ATTEND IF YOU WANT. IT'S NOT A FAIT ACCOMPLI. IT GETS PASSED, BUT IT'S ON THE AGENDA. WE'LL HAVE A STAFF COMPLIMENT THERE. AND SO IT'S JUST EXCITING FOR ME THAT I'M WATCHING THIS STAFF AND YOU AS A COUNCIL EXECUTE SO MANY PRIORITIES THAT THE CITIZENS HAVE DEMANDED OVER AND OVER. IT'S A LOT OF FUN TO BE PART OF IT, BUT AN AWARENESS THAT WE GOT TO KEEP GOING AND KEEP SHOWING UP AND ADVOCATING. SO YOU HAVE AN EMAIL IN RESPECTS TO THE DATE AND TIME. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, MADAM SMITH. NO EXECUTIVE SESSIONS. ALL RIGHT. NO, NO. THAT'S OKAY. WE'RE NOW ON PUBLIC COMMENTS. [PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES:] DEPUTY MAYOR MR. AARON BUTCHER, FOLLOWED BY BILL BATTEN. BILL. YOU'RE NEXT. EXCUSE ME. BUTCHER RAN 219 TRENTON AVENUE TONIGHT. WE SAW GOVERNMENT IN ACTION. YOU LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE. YOU VOTED THAT WAY. I WANT TO REMIND YOU, WHEN THE NINE OVER 11 ISSUE COMES UP, LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE, OKAY? WANT TO SEE THE SAME WAY YOU OPERATED TONIGHT? THANK YOU. SO I WAS GOING TO SAY SERGEANT MAJOR. [03:15:05] MASTER CHIEF. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST. I HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT COME UP, AND THAT CAME UP AS THE MEETING WAS GOING ON. THE FIRST ONE WAS UP THERE ON THE BOARD UNDER PUBLIC COMMENTS. RIGHT. IS THERE SOME GUIDELINES? SO I WANTED TO HOLLER OUT POINT OF ORDER, BUT I WAS BEING NICE TO NOT INTERRUPT THE REST OF THE FLOW OF IT. BUT IT WAS THERE. YOU HAD THE SAME GUIDELINES AND YOU FAILED TO CALL IT OUT. AND I'M OUT HERE IN THE AUDIENCE GOING, YEAH. AND, AND I LOOKED AT THE I DID LOOK AT THE SPEAKER CARD AND HE DIDN'T HAVE THE CITY LISTED ON. OKAY. SO. WELL, HE, HE HAS AN OPTION ON PROPERTY IN THE CITY. OKAY. SO IT WAS, IT WAS OKAY. HE DOES OWN PROPERTY IN THE CITY. HE HAS AN OPTION TO PURCHASE PROPERTY IN THE CITY. OPTION TO PURCHASE DOESN'T MEET ANY OF YOUR. I WOULD AGREE IT'S A LITTLE GRAINY. I'M JUST. HOLD ON. I'M JUST TRYING TO GO BY THE GUIDELINES. NO, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, MASTER CHIEF. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. THAT WAS NUMBER ANY HAD AN APPLICATION. GOT AN APPLICATION. OKAY. FOR BUSINESSES. OKAY. ITEM NUMBER TWO. I'VE HEARD THIS FROM A COUPLE OF COUPLE OF TIMES IN THE LAST COUPLE OF MEETINGS. RIGHT. HOW DO YOU EAT AN ELEPHANT? ONE BITE AT A TIME. AND THAT'S THAT'S THE ONLY WAY YOU PROBABLY COULD EAT AN ELEPHANT. BUT I WANT YOU TO REMEMBER BEFORE, WHEN YOU'RE DOING IT THAT WAY, BEFORE YOU'RE FINISHED, THE MEAT NORMALLY SPOILS BEFORE YOU'RE DONE. SO SOMETIMES YOU GOT TO LOOK AT HOW YOU'RE GOING TO PRESERVE THE ELEPHANT BEFORE YOU TRY TO EAT IT, ONE BITE AT A TIME. AND REMEMBER THAT THERE'S MORE TO IT THAN JUST THE ONE STRETCH OF ROAD RIGHT HERE, OR THIS ONE LITTLE BLOCK THAT THERE'S A BIG PICTURE THAT'S OUT THERE. SO DON'T LET THE MEAT SPOIL BEFORE YOU FINISH. THAT'S A LOT OF SALT, ISN'T IT, MASTER CHIEF? LET'S FREEZE IT INSTEAD OF SALT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND AS FOR THE FLOCK CAMERA, ONE THING THAT I SEE HAPPEN MORE TIMES THAN NOT IS PEOPLE HAVE A TENDENCY TO BLAME THE TOOL INSTEAD OF THE TOOL OPERATOR. THAT'S NORMALLY WHAT WHERE THE PROBLEM REALLY LIES. BUT. RIGHT. AND AS FOR GETTING TRAVEL, GOING TO PICK UP YOUR $3 MILLION CHECK, CAN'T YOU RIDE IN THE CAR AND JUST NOT TALK SHOP? I'M TRYING TO SAVE THE MONEY FOR THE CITY, THAT'S ALL. I'M TRYING TO SAVE MONEY. JUST DON'T TALK SHOP. SAVE ME SOME MONEY AND PROCEED. DON'T TALK BASEBALL. 3.5 MINUTES. MY MISTAKE. 3.5 MILLION. MATCHED WITH $1 MILLION FROM THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO GET A STRETCH OF ROAD. OKAY. I MEAN, TO GET A STRETCH OF SEWER LINE, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE BENEFICIAL. IT'S GOING TO IT'S GOING TO BE BENEFICIAL. BUT I, YOU KNOW, I GOT TO BE WHO I AM. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER CONCLUDES THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.