Sep 14, 2026 Sustainability Board

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THE TIME IS NOW 6:00. I WILL CALL THIS REGULAR MEETING 2026-09 OF THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD TO ORDER.

[CALL TO ORDER]

THANK YOU. TWO QUICK POINT OF ORDERS. RIGHT AT THE TOP OF THE MEETING.

WE HAVE A LOT OF NEW FACES IN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT FOR THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD. IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT A PUBLIC COMMENT CARD.

WE DO HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION COMING UP SHORTLY.

IF YOU COULD FILL ONE OUT AND SUBMIT THEM TO MISS JESS OVER HERE OFF TO THE SIDE, WE CAN GET YOU UP AND SPEAKING.

THE OTHER POINT OF ORDER I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS JUST A REMINDER TO THE BOARD MEMBERS, PLEASE TALK CLEARLY AND DIRECTLY INTO THE MICROPHONE.

WHEN WE ARE DISCUSSING THINGS AND DON'T HAVE SIDEBARS ALONG THE WAY.

WE WANT TO DO THAT NOT ONLY SO IT'S CLEAR FOR THE PUBLIC RECORD AS TO WHAT IS GOING ON FOR THE PEOPLE WATCHING AT HOME, BUT IT ALSO MAKES WRITING THE MINUTES MUCH EASIER.

SO IF JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND WHEN WE'RE UP HERE TALKING.

NEXT UP, I WOULD LIKE TO CALL FOR ROLL CALL. DOUG HOOK PRESENT.

EILEEN SAPP HERE. REBECCA ZIEGLER. PRESENT. ANTHONY ABATE PRESENT.

CHRISTINE JONES PRESENT. MARVIN TEDDER. WE HAVE QUORUM.

THANK YOU. BEFORE WE GO ON TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.

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I WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT TWO AGENDA ITEMS. I WILL SEPARATE THEM SO WE CAN DO THEM AS A MOTION.

THE FIRST AGENDA REVISION I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IS TO MOVE ITEM NUMBER.

NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER THREE UP TO NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER ONE.

THAT WAY OUR GUEST FROM LAGOON LOYAL IS ABLE TO GET ON HIS WAY A LITTLE QUICKER.

SO DO I HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE THAT WE MOVE NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER THREE AHEAD OF NEW BUSINESS ITEM ONE. AND I WILL. SECOND.

SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? CAN WE HAVE A VOTE? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? NAY. PASSES FIVE ZERO.

THE NEXT ITEM THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT WOULD BE MOVING.

NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER FOR THE REVIEW OF THE PROPOSED CITY CODE.

CHANGES TO TO DATA CENTER RESTRICTIONS. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT UP TO NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER TWO.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE THAT MOTION. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? YES. SO MOVED. ANY DISCUSSION OR SECOND. I'LL SECOND THAT.

OKAY. ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING? NONE. CAN WE HAVE A VOTE? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE AYE. ALL OPPOSED? NAY PASSES 5 TO 0.

EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DON'T EVER DO THAT.

WITH THAT, WE WILL MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.

[PUBLIC COMMENTS]

IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT ONE BEFORE WE MOVE ON? ALL RIGHT.

SEEING NONE, WE WILL MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER ONE.

[NEW BUSINESS]

THANK YOU. WELL, I FEEL SPECIAL MOVING ME ALL THE WAY UP.

I DID LIVE IN PALM BAY, SO I WANT TO HEAR ABOUT THE AI STUFF.

BUT ANYHOW, WITH THAT LATER ON ALSO, BEFORE I START THIS HERE, KRISTEN, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE THE RAIN BARREL WORKSHOP.

IT'LL BE A LITTLE BIT LATER IN THE YEAR, BUT IT'S THE FISCAL YEAR, BUT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO FIT IT.

I, I HAVE DONE SEVERAL RAIN BARREL WORKSHOPS HERE WHEN I HAD THE GRANT ACTUALLY WE DID ONE HERE RIGHT IN THE FRONT YARD HERE. SO I'M, I'M ALWAYS HAPPY TO COME BACK PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A GOOD EXPERIENCE.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. STORMWATER POLLUTION PREVENTION, OUTREACH AND MARKETING THAT IS UNDER THE LAGOON LOYAL PROGRAM.

THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PASSED THE CLEAN WATER ACT.

THEY CAN'T ENFORCE IT. AND THAT'S LET'S SEE IF I CAN GET.

THIS OFF. SORRY. OKAY. THERE YOU GO. OKAY. SO

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I HANDLE THE FIRST TWO ELEMENTS TYPICALLY, WHICH ARE EDUCATION AND MARKETING.

WE HAD TO GO THERE AND EDUCATE PEOPLE AND WE ALSO HAD TO DO MARKETING.

THUS OUR LAGOON LOYAL WEBSITE. AND YOU'LL SEE BILLBOARDS AND IT FOLLOWS YOU IF YOU WANT TO GO ON YOUR CELL PHONE.

WE HAVE A LOT OF NEW TECHNOLOGY NOW THAT TO PROMOTE EDUCATION IT'S TO PROMOTE THE BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES AND THEY WILL COUNT FOR WHEN YOU GET AUDITED. SO IT HAS TO BE DONE BY FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

AND THAT'S WHAT THIS SLIDE IS ABOUT. UNDER THE CLEAN WATER ACT.

THESE ARE OUR WATERWAYS. WE ALSO WORK TOGETHER WITH THE SAINT JOHN'S WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT TYPICALLY NGOS, BUT THAT'S NOT PART OF THE LAGOON LOYAL PROGRAM NECESSARILY, BUT WE DO AS THE COUNTY AS WELL.

BUT ON THE EAST, WE HAVE THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON, WHICH IS COMPRISED OF THE INDIAN RIVER, THE MOSQUITO LAGOON, AND THE BANANA RIVER. OBVIOUSLY THE LAGOON COVERS SIX COUNTIES.

WE ALSO WORK WITH THE OTHER COUNTIES AS WELL.

AND THESE ARE ALL TRIBUTARIES. ET CETERA. ET CETERA.

OKAY. BASICALLY HE, YOU KNOW, DEREK HAS TO DO IT AND WE HAVE TO DO IT.

IN OUR CASE, IT WILL BE JENNIFER THOMPSON. THEY WRITE A NOTICE OF INTENT, THAT NOTICE OF INTENT, ONCE IT GETS APPROVED BY THE E P, WHICH THEY HAVE BEEN DELAYED, YOU KNOW, ON IN AN APPROVING NOTICE BECAUSE WE'RE SHORT STAFFED, IT BECOMES A PERMIT AND YOU GET AUDITED EVERY, YOU KNOW, EVERY FIVE YEAR PERIOD.

OKAY. AND EVERYBODY GOES THROUGH THAT. SO THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE IS FACILITATES THE FIRST TWO ELEMENTS. AND I'M GOING TO EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT LATER, BUT BASICALLY AT THE BOTTOM EDUCATION.

WE HAVE A WIDE RANGE OF ACTIVITIES OF YOUTH, ADULTS, SPECIAL EVENTS THAT'S GOING TO BE NEGOTIABLE, ESPECIALLY NOW THAT THEY HAVE NEW RULES THAT THEY HAVE.

THE DEP HAS LOOSENED THE RULES ABOUT CATEGORIZING, YOU KNOW, YOUTH, ADULTS, YOU KNOW, SPECIAL EVENTS, BUT IT HAS TO BE DONE. AND IT'S TYPICALLY BASED ON POPULATION.

MY CALCULATIONS THAT I'VE DONE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE LATER ARE BASED ON 148 000 PEOPLE IN PALM BAY.

YOU KNOW, IT GETS BIGGER BY THE SECOND A MARKETING BASICALLY WE HAD THE WEBSITE, ELECTRONIC PRINTED MEDIA ADVERTISING, BILLBOARDS, BUS WRAPS. AND LIKE I TOLD YOU ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE THE STORM DRAIN MARKERS, IF YOU'RE PART OF CONSORTIUM IS AS LAGOON LOYAL AND IT HAS A QR CODE AND GOES TO THE WEBSITE.

BUT YOU HAVE TO BE PART OF THE CONSORTIUM FOR THAT.

AND I HAVE A FULL PRESENTATION FROM MY CONTRACTOR, WHICH IS SPARKLIGHT.

THEY DO THEIR MARKETING. THEY HAVE A BEAUTIFUL PRESENTATION ON OUR MARKETING.

SO, BUT IT'S QUITE A BIT AND I'M NOT GOING TO.

BUT HERE, THIS GIVES YOU A, AN IDEA. I HAVE AN INDOOR BANNER DOWN ON THE BOTTOM LEFT.

IT'S BEEN, IT WAS JUST HERE AT THE, AT THE LIBRARY HERE.

SO IT ROTATES AROUND EVERY 2 TO 3 MONTHS. THAT'S ONE OF MY JOBS AND IT HAS THE BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES.

SO I ROTATE IT TO ALL THE PUBLIC LIBRARIES. SO IT WAS RECENTLY HERE IN PALM BAY WE HAVE BILLBOARDS, BUS WRAPS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. IF YOU'RE PART OF OUR CONSUMPTION, THEN WE'LL WE'LL SELECT BUS WRAPS THAT GO THROUGH PALM BAY.

RIGHT NOW. WE DON'T, I THINK THE COUNTY IT DOES BECAUSE IT GOES THROUGH PALM BAY ROAD BECAUSE WE GOT WEST MELBOURNE, BUT YOU KNOW. BUT THESE ARE THE OLD THINGS. MY VEHICLE, I'M DRIVING MY OWN PERSONAL VEHICLE.

BUT IF I'M DRIVING MY COUNTY VEHICLE, I'LL HAVE A RAP IN THE BACK PROMOTING BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES.

AND THAT ALL COUNTS FOR THE FOR THE AUDIT. OKAY.

THESE ARE THE CURRENT MEMBERS WE JUST ADDED SATELLITE BEACH STARTING WE JUST, YOU KNOW, THE, THE INK IS STILL NOT HASN'T DRIED YET, BUT IT'S OFFICIAL, IT'S BEEN RECORDED AND SATELLITE BEACH IS BACK THERE USED TO BE THERE IN 2011 UNDER WHAT USED TO BE CALLED BLUE LIFE AND NOW IT'S CALLED LAGOON LOYAL.

AND WE HAVE REVAMPED. THERE'S NEW TECHNOLOGY AND THINGS THAT ARE A LOT BETTER, YOU KNOW, WITH IN TERMS OF MARKETING AND HAVING WEBSITES AND HAVING INSTAGRAM AND TARGETED ADVERTISING, WHICH MEANS THAT IF YOU GO TO THE WEBSITE ONCE, IT WILL FOLLOW YOU.

IF YOU GO TO THE IF YOU GO TO THE, TO THE LOWE'S OR HOME DEPOT, TO THE, TO THE GARDENING SECTION.

AND IT HAS FERTILIZER. IT WILL KIND OF BE PROMPTED BECAUSE IT RECOGNIZES IT.

BUT THAT'S ANOTHER PRESENTATION. BUT THESE ARE IT'S EIGHT OF THEM RIGHT NOW.

AND BREVARD COUNTY MAKES NINE. AND BASICALLY GIVE YOU A LITTLE TASTE OF WHAT TYPICALLY WE TALK ABOUT THIS IS ONE

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SO, AND WE GO THERE, YOU KNOW, LIKE LOWE'S AND, AND AND HOME DEPOT, I HAVE TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE THERE BECAUSE THEY TAKE THEM DOWN.

THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO, BUT IT GIVES YOU THE BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES, TEACHES CITIZENS HOW TO USE FERTILIZERS.

AND WE DO THAT COUNTY WISE, WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE ON THE YOU'RE ON THE ON THE CONSORTIUM.

BUT ANYHOW, THIS I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A TASTE WHEN I WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THAT, I HAVE A CONTRACTOR AS WELL, SPARK TITLE. NOT ONLY DOES MY MARKETING, BUT THEY ALSO WANT THE, THE THE CONTRACT FOR EDUCATION, THEY SUBCONTRACT TO STELLA MARIS. BUT SEE, THESE ARE THE BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES YOU KNOW ABOUT, YOU KNOW, GRASS CLIPPINGS FLOWER BEDS. AND WE GOT THE PICTURE AND THEN THE FERTILIZER, 50% SLOW RELEASE, FOLLOW THE FERTILIZER BAND COMPOST GRASS. ET CETERA.

ET CETERA. AND REMEMBER, THE MORE IS NOT BETTER.

THE OTHER STUFF, WE ALSO TALK, WE TALK ABOUT A LOT OF STUFF, BUT THESE ARE JUST FOUR OF THEM. THE PET WASTE.

I HAD TO REVISE THOSE NUMBERS BECAUSE WE GOT MORE PEOPLE WITH MORE DOGS AND CATS.

BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN TRAIN YOUR DOG TO DO THAT. NO, DOGS ARE VERY SMART, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE OPPOSABLE THUMBS.

BUT THAT'S PRETTY COOL. PEOPLE ALWAYS GET, YOU KNOW, A LAUGH OUT OF IT.

THE OTHER STUFF IS AUTOMOBILE CARES. SO THAT'S JUST A REPRESENTATION THAT ALSO WILL BE ON OUR ELECTRONIC ADVERTISING AS WELL. SO, YOU KNOW, CAR CARE AND OTHER THINGS LIKE ILLICIT DISCHARGE.

NOW, YOU KNOW, WE JUST PASS OUR AUDIT. WE HAD IT A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, BUT THEY WANTED US.

WE GOT IT PERFECT, BUT THEY WANTED US TO BE MORE SPECIFIC.

YOU KNOW, ON, YOU KNOW, ILLICIT DISCHARGE. YOU GOT TO POINT IT OUT AND, AND, AND PUT IT BY NAME.

SO MAKE SURE WHEN YOU DO YOUR PAMPHLETS OR WHATEVER THAT YOU GOT, YOU KNOW, THE WORDS ILLICIT, ILLICIT DISCHARGE, BECAUSE WE HAD, WE HAD THAT STUFF, BUT WE DIDN'T LABEL IT AS ILLICIT DISCHARGE.

BUT THEY WANT THAT. THAT'S SOMETHING WE LEARNED. AND THIS IS HOW THE ROADS LOOK.

THE FIRST INCH OF RAIN ON THE ON THE RAIN EVENT, IT WILL CLEAN THE WHOLE ROAD ON AN IMPERMEABLE SURFACES.

THAT'S WHAT WE GO TO THE LID CONFERENCES. I SEE DERRICK OUT THERE AND PEOPLE FROM PALM BAY.

AND BASICALLY I BUILT TWO LABS THAT I AM A BIOCHEMIST AND IN WATER QUALITY.

AND THIS IS THE CYCLE OF IT. AND THIS IS WHAT WE TEACH.

IF YOU SEE ON THE TOP WHERE IT SAYS THE BROWN STUFF, THE STORMWATER RUNOFF FROM THE LAGOON.

THAT IS THE THE STORMWATER RUNOFF THAT COMES FROM THE STREET.

AND IT GOES INTO THE STORM DRAIN. STORM DRAINS, AND THE WATER BECOMES MORE TURBID OR DARKER.

IT COVERS THE WATER, MAKES IT DARKER, PREVENTS SUNLIGHT TO GO TOP RIGHT.

AND THEN THE SEAGRASS DIED. WE HAD THE SEAGRASS, YOU KNOW, DYING.

BETWEEN 2000 AND 9 2011. WE LOST ABOUT 60% OF THE SEAGRASS.

WE HAVEN'T QUITE RECOVERED THAT. WE'RE LIKE AT 25 OR 30 BACK.

SO WE GOT ABOUT HALF OF THE WAY, BUT THE GRASS DIES, BECOMES MUCK, PART OF THE MUCK.

THEN THE FISH DIED AND PEOPLE ASK ME, WHY DID THE FISH DIE? THEY THINK IT'S A CHEMICAL. NO. THE PROBLEM WITH THE LAGOON IS NOT A INDUSTRIAL CHEMICALS BEING DUMPED.

THE FISH IN 2016, THE BIG FISH KILL. AND WE MONITOR THAT WITH FWC.

IT'S. THEY COULDN'T BREATHE BECAUSE THE MUCK IS LOW OXYGEN VERY, VERY LOW OXYGEN.

SO IF YOU GOT FISHES GOING THROUGH THERE, THERE'S NO OXYGEN IN IT.

AND THEN MUCK WAS PREDOMINANT BACK THEN, IN 2016.

SINCE THEN, WE HAVE PASSED A HALF CENT SALES TAX WITH SORREL, WHICH IS ALSO IN OUR DEPARTMENT.

SOIL ALSO CONTRIBUTES TO THE TO THE LAGOON LOYAL AS WELL.

THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW. SO SO THE FISH DIET BECAME MUCK.

AND THEN THAT STUFF THAT WAS ON THE SURFACE OF THE WATER, THE SOLUTES COME DOWN AND BECOMES MUCK.

YOU KNOW, I PLAYED A LOT, A LOT AROUND WITH MUCK AT FIT, YOU KNOW, AND YOU KNOW, IT'S A LITTLE BIT ACIDIC AND, AND HIGH IN NUTRIENTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. AND THE PROBLEM IS WHEN, WHEN YOU GOT WINDY DAYS, THE MUCK GOES TO THE SURFACE AND CREATES THE HAB HARMFUL ALGAE BLOOMS. AND, YOU KNOW, AND THEN YOU GOT MORE PROBLEMS AND, YOU KNOW, AND MORE MUCK.

THIS IS HOW THE MUCK LOOKS. AND YOU CAN SEE ON THE LEFT THE NORMAL SEDIMENT.

AND THEN BASICALLY THE MUCK IS GOING ON TOP OF THE, OF THE REGULAR.

FLOOR OF THE LAGOON AND IT COVERS THE SAND. MY FRIEND DOCTOR FOX AND DOCTOR WEAVER, THEY'RE DOING IN CAPE CANAVERAL.

THEY'RE DOING A PILOT PROJECT NOW, BUT THEY'RE DOING A PILOT PROJECT.

THEY'RE PUTTING SAND ON TOP OF THE MUCK, AND THEY HAD SOME GOOD RESULTS.

SO THEY HAVE AMPLIFIED THAT. SO YOU CAN, YOU CAN TALK TO THE, THE, THE GOOD PEOPLE AT CAPE CANAVERAL,

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YOU CANNOT PUT ANYTHING NEW THERE UNTIL, YOU KNOW, PALM BAY IS THE SIXTH LARGEST CITY IN TERMS, YOU KNOW, SO THEY GOT MORE SPACE. OKAY. AND THIS IS A SLIDE WITH THE NEW NUMBERS, THE 41,920 972.

THAT'S NEGOTIABLE PLUS OR MINUS. YOU KNOW IT HAS TO FIT HIS NOI, HIS NOTICE OF INTENT, BUT IT'S NEGOTIABLE THAT WE JUST ADDED A SATELLITE BEACH AND WE DID THE SAME PROCESS.

WE HAVE NEVER ADDED SOMEBODY TO OUR, YOU KNOW.

BUT SATELLITE BEACH IS SMALLER, SO IT'S A LOT MORE MANAGEABLE.

AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAD GOOD CONVERSATIONS AND WE, WE, YOU KNOW, WE CAME UP WITH AN UNDERSTANDING THAT WE CREATED A CONTRACT.

THE CONTRACT HAS TO BE TAKEN TO ALL THE MUNICIPALITIES.

IT GOT TO BE APPROVED. I HAD TO GO THERE AND GET THE ORIGINALS.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF WORK FOR ME. AND THEN AT THE END, THE COMMISSIONER SIGNED IT. AND THEN ONCE IT GETS RECORDED, IT'S OFFICIAL. AND THAT JUST HAPPENED A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. THE WHOLE PROCESS. I'M MORE THAN GLAD TO DO IT.

I WANT PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, BUT ANYHOW, THE FOR ADULTS 55 YOUTH ACTIVITIES AND EIGHT AGAIN, ASTERISK NEGOTIABLE ESPECIALLY I'VE BEEN TELLING AND PROBABLY DEREK KNOWS THAT. THE EP SAID WE'RE NOT GOING TO EMPHASIZE TOO MUCH.

YOU KNOW, WHAT IS AN ADULT PRESENTATION AND OUR YOUTH ACTIVITIES, THEY STILL HAVE TO BE DONE.

YOU WANT TO REACH THE, YOU KNOW THE MOST EFFECTIVE ONES ARE SPECIAL EVENTS BECAUSE YOU CAN REACH ADULTS AND KIDS AND THE SCHOOLS DEPENDING ON THE MUNICIPALITY, THE ADULT PRESENTATIONS, LIKE IN SMALLER TOWNS LIKE WEST MALVERN, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HARDLY SHOW UP. SO, YOU KNOW, I'M PAYING MY CONTRACTOR A LOT OF MONEY FOR TWO HOURS.

AND FOR 2 OR 3 PEOPLE, IT'S THE SAME THING HAPPENS TO MALABAR FOR ADULT PRESENTATIONS, BUT SCHOOLS AND SPECIAL EVENTS AND PALM BAY HAS LOTS OF THEM.

SO EVERYTHING IS NEGOTIABLE AND THEY HAVE DIFFERENT WEIGHTS.

YOU KNOW THAT WE GET STARTED, YOU KNOW, WEIGHT POINT WEIGHTS.

AND THEN I HAVE THE MATH, YOU KNOW, SO WHEN WE NEGOTIATE, WE DO THAT.

BUT IT'S INITIALLY BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE YOU HAVE.

THAT'S WHY IT LOOKS SO MUCH OKAY. AND IT LOOKS A LOT, YOU KNOW IF WE START THE NEGOTIATIONS, THE IDEA IS TO START THE THE SERVICES ON OCTOBER 1ST, 2027 BECAUSE WE BUILD ON THE FISCAL YEAR.

SO IT'S A LOT SIMPLER THAN OKAY. AND THEN YOU GET INVOICE IN NOVEMBER 2027.

VERY IMPORTANT. YOU WANT TO TAKE THIS TO THE TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

YOU KNOW, SO IT'S FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2027. OKAY.

SO AND THIS IS KIND OF THIS IS WHAT IT COST US RIGHT NOW.

OKAY. OH THE SAVINGS, YOU KNOW, HIRING A NEW PERSONNEL.

SO EVEN IF YOU DON'T HIRE SOMEBODY, IT WILL RELIEVE DEREK AND HIS STAFF FROM, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL WORK THAT WE DO.

YOU, YOU GET GREAT MARKETING WITHOUT DOING ANYTHING ADDITIONAL.

AND WE ALREADY HAD THE INFRASTRUCTURE BECAUSE WE, WE COME TO THE SCHOOLS, I GO TO THE SCHOOLS HERE, JUPITER AND ALL THESE PLACES, BUT IT DOESN'T COUNT FOR PALM BAY.

IT COUNTS FOR THE COUNTY PERMIT. SO IF YOU'RE IN A CONSORTIUM, WE'LL COUNT FOR YOU.

BUT WE ALREADY HAVE THE CONNECTIONS WITH THE TEACHERS. WE'VE DONE EVENTS, WE'VE DONE RAIN BARREL WORKSHOPS, WE'VE DONE ALL THAT STUFF. SO IT'S A WIN WIN FOR EVERYBODY.

AND THEN IF WE DO MORE THAN THE CONTRACT, YOU DON'T GET CHARGED BECAUSE I DO THEM.

SO IT'S NOT MY CONTRACTOR. SO I NEVER I, YOU KNOW, I NEVER SAY NO, YOU KNOW AND BASICALLY THIS IS HOW IT WORKS.

THE NUMBERS, THESE ARE THE CURRENT NUMBERS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2027.

IF YOU ADD THE COUNTY, THE MUNICIPALITIES, THE WHOLE PROGRAM RIGHT NOW FOR THESE EIGHT MUNICIPALITIES FOR THE COUNTY IS 106,568.

THE COUNTY, IF YOU SEE, IS CONTRIBUTING MORE THAN HALF.

OKAY. AND WE DON'T WE DON'T GET, YOU KNOW, THAT MUCH SERVICE.

YOU KNOW, WE JUST CONTRIBUTE A LOT MORE BECAUSE WE WANT PEOPLE TO JOIN OUR CONSORTIUM AND WE WANT TO HAVE A YOU THE MAIN THING IS TO HAVE A UNIFIED MESSAGE FOR, FOR, FOR TO CLEAN THE LAGOON. AND IT MAKES IT A LOT STRONGER.

WE HAVE A STRONG INFRASTRUCTURE ON, ON MARKETING AND JUST PLASTER OUT YOU PROBABLY IF YOU.

DEREK. AND AND YOU'VE BEEN TO THE RAIN BARREL WORKSHOP, NOT RAIN BARREL.

THE THE THE LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT I ADVERTISED THERE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I WANT TO BE EVEN THOUGH IT'S JUST NOT NOT FOR THE REGULAR PUBLIC. I WANT TO BE KNOWN EVEN WITH THE ALL THE MUNICIPALITIES IN THE COUNTY, WE WE ARE ADVERTISING AGAIN THIS YEAR AS WELL.

SO BUT YOU SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, ALL THE PARTNERS, IF YOU ADD UP THE NUMBERS FOR ALL THE PARTNERS, IT'S ONLY 46, NINE, 60. WELL, WE PAY A LOT MORE.

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SO IT'S GREAT. WE HAVE ALL THIS NEW TECHNOLOGY, ESPECIALLY WITH ALL THIS NEW TECHNOLOGY.

NOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WE GOT TARGETED ADVERTISING AND IT FOLLOWS SOMEBODY WITH, IF IT'S A YOU KNOW, FERTILIZER OR THIS AND THAT, IT FOLLOWS ME. YOU KNOW, I'M LOOKING AT MY REGULAR PHONE AND IT'S LIKE, WHAT? AND THE BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES. SO IT'S A GREAT TOOL BECAUSE WE HAVE NEW TECHNOLOGIES.

IT'S A GREAT TOOL. IT'S A GOOD, GREAT PROGRAM BECAUSE IT'S SORROW IS PAIN PART OF IT.

IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM BECAUSE THE COUNTY IS PAYING, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE GETTING A GRANT.

YOU'RE GETTING, YOU KNOW, A LOT MORE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE'RE CONTRIBUTING 59,001 ONE GOVERNMENT VERSUS 46,009 60.

THAT 59,000 ALSO COVERS YOU KNOW, PART OF MY SALARY BECAUSE I HAD TO MANAGE THE CONTRACTS AND RUN AROUND AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

STAFF, YOU KNOW, STAFFING ISSUES. AND DO I HAVE TO DO TASK ORDERS EVERY YEAR? SO WE CAN CONTINUE THE SERVICES AND WE ONCE YOU'RE IN THE CONSORTIUM, YOU GET, WE MEET ONCE A YEAR AND YOU GET TO REVISE WHAT YOU WANT TO DO FOR THE FOLLOWING FISCAL YEAR. SO IT ALSO GIVES YOU A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT YOU HAVE THE NOI IS ONLY FIVE YEARS AND THINGS CHANGE.

THE EPI CHANGES THINGS. SO. ALL RIGHT. AND SO AND BASICALLY WE GOT AT THE VERY BOTTOM, THE LAST TWO NUMBERS 60% GOES TO EDUCATION AND 40% GOES TO MARKETING. AND THAT HAS TO DO BECAUSE SORT OF PUTS THE REST ON MARKETING.

SO THEY'RE ALSO A BIG PART OF IT AND WE'RE GLAD OF IT.

AND, AND THAT'S IT. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I'LL BE GLAD TO ENTERTAIN THEM.

BASICALLY IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM. IT'S LIKE A GRANT YOU BASICALLY I'M BRINGING MONEY TO THE CITY.

I LIVE HERE, SO, BUT WE'RE HAPPY. YOU KNOW, I'VE, I'VE WORKED IN THE PAST WITH THE CITY OF PALM BAY WITH THE STAFF.

WE DID A BUNCH OF RAIN BARRELS. AND I MEAN, I CANNOT SAY ENOUGH GOOD THINGS ABOUT IT.

WE'RE VERY HAPPY WITH AS WELL WITH SATELLITE BEACH COMING BACK, YOU KNOW? AND WE'RE GOING TO IT WON'T BE THE LAST ONES WE'RE GOING TO WANT TO KEEP ADDING.

WE WANT TO, WE WANT TO BE PREDOMINANT IN THE COUNTY.

EXCELLENT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. IF YOU DON'T MIND STAYING UP AT THE PODIUM, I'M GOING TO OPEN IT UP TO THE BOARD FOR QUESTIONS.

SURE. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY WHO HAS SOME QUESTIONS? I WOULD LIKE TO JUST GET SOME CLARIFICATIONS ON, MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON HERE. SO THE COST TO THE CITY IS THAT 41,000.

THAT'S IT IS NEGOTIABLE. THAT'S WHAT I INITIALLY ESTIMATE BASED ON THESE NUMBERS PLUS OR MINUS.

OKAY. OKAY. BECAUSE YOU KNOW, NOW THEY HAVE NEW RULES AND NEW THINGS AND, AND WE DON'T WANT TO BE STUCK TO, YOU KNOW AND YOU KNOW, TO, TO THOSE DELIVERABLES THAT I SHOWED HERE.

LET ME SEE HERE. YOU KNOW, THE FOR ADULTS, THAT'S ALL NEGOTIABLE.

IT'S GOING TO DEPEND ON HOW MUCH IS THE TOTAL.

BUT BUT IT'S STILL GOING TO BE YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S NOT GOING TO BE 25,000 THAT IT'S IT'S ALL DUE TO THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE YOU HAVE. RIGHT. WHICH IS THIS IS BASED ON 148,000.

OKAY. THANK YOU. BECAUSE YOU ALREADY ANSWERED MY SECOND QUESTION. IT WAS GOING TO BE WHAT SPECIFIC BENEFITS DO WE GET WITH THE PARTNERSHIP? AND IT'S RIGHT THERE. AND AS YOU SAID, THEY'RE NEGOTIABLE. SO THANK YOU FOR FOR THAT INFORMATION. YOU'RE WELCOME. I WILL SHARE THIS NEWS, THIS PRESENTATION. I CAN SEND IT TO YOU AND DEREK SO YOU GUYS CAN LOOK IT OVER.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I WAS THIS WAS GREAT BECAUSE I WAS PLANNING TO TO, YOU KNOW, MEET WITH THE, YOU KNOW, DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR AND THEN TALK TO THE, TO THE CITY, TO THE CITY HALL AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

BUT SO THIS IS A GREAT VENUE BECAUSE YOU, I THINK YOU ARE THE BEGINNING.

IT WILL LOOK REALLY GOOD IF YOU SAW THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD, YOU KNOW.

I DO UNDERSTAND THERE WAS A LOT. THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF NEW CHANGES IN STAFFING AND IN THE CITY COUNCIL.

SO IT'S TAKEN A WHILE TO, YOU KNOW, FOR THE DUST TO SETTLE AND PEOPLE GET COMFORTABLE WITH, YOU KNOW, INITIALLY THEY HAD TO TAKE CARE OF THE FIRST THINGS FIRST.

YEAH, I DID PRESENT IT. I DID NOT HERE, BUT I SHOWED IT TO HIM.

AND THEN BUT THERE WERE A LOT OF NEW, YOU KNOW, DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS AND THIS, IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE THAT THEY WANT TO TAKE CARE OF FIRST THINGS FIRST AND LEARN THE THING. SO. BUT THIS YEAR IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

WE'VE GOT OUR FEET WET. I GOT MY FEET WET ADDING PEOPLE.

SO IT'S A LOT OF PAPERWORK, BUT I'M MORE THAN GLAD TO DO IT.

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IS IT SOMETHING THAT WOULD HELP TAKE, AS YOU SAID, SOME WORK OFF OF YOUR PLATE? IS THERE A LOT THAT YOU HAVE TO DO SPECIFICALLY THAT WOULD BE LIKE DONE.

AGAIN, I THINK THE BIGGEST THING TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION IS THE COST OF BEING IN THE CONSORTIUM.

IT'S NOT SO MUCH OF IF IT'S GOING TO TAKE THE WORK OFF MY PLATE.

HE HAS A GREAT PROGRAM THAT HAS A LOT OF BENEFITS AND A LOT OF THINGS THAT COME WITH IT.

THE THE OTHER THING TO CONSIDER, TOO, IS IT COVERS ONLY THE FIRST TWO SECTIONS OF THE PERMIT.

THERE ARE SIX BMPS THAT HAVE TO BE ACCOUNTED FOR.

THE FIRST AND SECOND, I WOULD SAY ARE PROBABLY THE EASIEST.

BUT I MEAN, AGAIN, THAT'S NOT THAT THERE'S NOT STRINGENT REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU HAVE TO MEET FOR THOSE TWO SECTIONS, BUT WE JUST GOT AUDITED RECENTLY AND THAT WAS THE, THE EASIEST THING THAT I HAD THE MOST THINGS TO PRESENT TO THE FDP.

SO IT'S WHERE'S THE CITY CURRENTLY? IS THE CITY AT THIS TIME ABLE TO COVER IT WITHOUT HAVING TO BE A PART OF THE CONSORTIUM? AND AGAIN, NOT THAT IT'S A BAD PROGRAM. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BENEFITS, THE PROS AND THE CONS.

IT'S IT'S MORE OR LESS WHAT'S GOOD FOR THE CITY, WHAT'S GOOD FOR THE PEOPLE AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

AND I THINK, AGAIN, TRYING TO TRYING TO JUSTIFY THE FIND THE 41,929, WHETHER IT'S PLUS OR MINUS.

AND AGAIN, IT'S PLUS OR MINUS. IT COULD GO UP OR GO DOWN BASED ON THE PERMIT.

THE PEOPLE IN THE CITY. YOU JUST HAVE TO KIND OF CONSIDER YOUR PLACE AND TIME WHERE THE CITY IS AND WHERE THE CITY NEEDS TO BE.

AND IS THIS SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO BENEFIT THE CITY ENOUGH TO BE A PART OF THE BUDGET DISPERSION? YES. AND WITH THE BUDGET BEING SUCH A HOT TOPIC RIGHT NOW, DEFINITELY WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT. AND WE'VE I'VE ME AND TANYA, THE GRANT WRITER, WE SAT DOWN WITH CARLOS IN BREVARD COUNTY.

WE WENT OVER THE RAIN BARREL PROGRAM, THE CONSORTIUM THAT WAS BACK IN SEPTEMBER OF 2024.

WE LISTENED TO IT. WE BROUGHT IT BACK TO PUBLIC WORKS. THE ORIGINAL DIRECTOR AT THE TIME LOVED THE IDEA, BUT IT JUST WASN'T SOMETHING THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, HE HAD JUST HIRED MYSELF ON ERIC WAS JUST GETTING THE PERMIT WRITTEN AND TRYING TO GET IT APPROVED WITH FDEP.

SO AT THE TIME IT DIDN'T REALLY FIT THE SCENE.

WE WERE JUST TRYING TO GET THE BASICALLY THE BIBLE THAT WE WERE TO FOLLOW.

WE WERE TRYING TO GET THAT WRITTEN, APPROVED AND THEN STUDIED SO THAT WE COULD FIGURE OUT WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO.

SO IT WASN'T GOOD TIMING AT THAT POINT. AND I THINK YOU DID HAVE ANOTHER TALK WITH WITH KEVIN, THE NEW DIRECTOR ONCE HE CAME ABOARD. OR WAS IT SCOTT MORGAN? I KNOW, I GUESS IT WAS SEND HIM THE I TALKED TO HER THE PRESENTATION.

I THINK YOU SENT HIM AND I SENT HIM THE THE PRESENTATION LAST YEAR.

YEAH. YES. THERE'S A LOT OF THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE NEGOTIATIONS BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF VARIABLES.

TIMING, EVEN IN THE NEGOTIATIONS CAN FALL. YOU DECIDE NOT TO DO IT, YOU KNOW, SO MONEY'S ONE THING BUT THE OTHER, WHETHER IT'S IT'S WORTH IT FOR YOU TO DO IT. I DO THINK A LOT OF THINGS ARE WORTH IT.

LIKE, YOU KNOW, GETTING A LOT OF MARKETING, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU, YOU KNOW, AND EXPOSURE.

YEAH, BECAUSE WE ALSO HAVE THE MONEY INVOLVED IN IT.

SO BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE YOU SAID, THE FIRST TWO ELEMENTS, IF WE TAKE THAT OFF YOUR PLATE, YOU CAN CONCENTRATE ON THE OTHER FIVE, RIGHT? EXACTLY. WITHOUT HAVING TO HIRE A NEW PERSON OR A STAFF OR, OR GET SOMEBODY ELSE.

AND WE BASICALLY ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY LIKE IT AND YOU HAVE TO SPEND VERY LITTLE TIME.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A MEETING ONCE A YEAR. HE SAID, OKAY, I'LL SEND YOU THE RECORDS ONCE EVERY QUARTER FROM MY CONTRACTOR.

AND THEN AND THEN, YOU KNOW, ALL THE ACTIVITIES WERE DONE AND THEN YOU PUT THEM THERE AND THEN IT HAS TO MATCH YOUR.

YEAH, YOUR CYCLE. BUT AND WE WORK ON THAT AS WELL, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT RELIEVES PRESSURE AND IT BRINGS VALUE AND RECOGNITION BECAUSE LAGOON LOYAL IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S OUR JOB NOW. IT'S, WE, WE HAD IT FOR LIKE 5 OR 6 YEARS NOW.

AND, AND, YOU KNOW, AND WE'RE USING A LOT OF TECHNOLOGY TO REALLY REACH OUT PEOPLE IN OUR MARKETING, LIKE TARGETED ADVERTISING, YOU KNOW, SO SOMETIMES IT SPOOKS ME, BUT WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE? MY PERSONAL PHONE? NO, I'M JUST IT'S TRUE. BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, LIKE THEY THEY'LL, YOU KNOW, IT'S TARGETED ADVERTISING LAGOON LOYALTY. OH, LOOK AT THAT.

OR, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S ABOUT THE BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES AND, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S ALSO PRESTIGE.

OH, PAUL MASON OF CONSORTIUM AS WELL. SO BUT AGAIN, WE HAVE TO NEGOTIATE.

IT HAS TO HELP HIM OUT FOR REAL. I DON'T WANT TO DO THIS IF IT DOESN'T HELP THE CITY.

THE MAIN THING IS ON THE PERMIT, THAT'S THE MAIN THING. THE OTHER ADDED VALUES ARE GREAT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THE MAIN THING IS THAT THIS, THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE PERMIT, THE FIRST TWO ELEMENTS OF THE PERMIT AND, AND THE CITY FUNDS IT. SATELLITE BEACH WAS OBVIOUSLY A, THEY HAVE A LOT LESS PEOPLE, BUT THEY WERE VERY SHORT STAFFED.

AND THEY WERE LIKE, YES, IT'S I MEAN, BUT THEN AGAIN, BASED ON THE POPULATION WAS ONLY LIKE $5,000 BECAUSE THEY, THEY ONLY HAVE LIKE 10,000 PEOPLE. SO BUT FOR THEM, IT'S A LOT BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THAT REVENUE INCOME STILL NOT A LOT,

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SO PROPORTIONALLY, YOU KNOW, DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A LOT.

$5,000 BUT THEY HAVE LESS REVENUE SOURCES IN A SENSE.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, TRYING TO MAKE IT ALL EQUITABLE WHEN PEOPLE SIGN UP.

PALM BAY HAS A LOT OF PEOPLE, MORE PEOPLE COMING HERE.

AND THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE BIG.

SO BUT EVERYTHING IS NEGOTIABLE AND WE WORK AND EVEN THE NEGOTIATIONS DON'T WORK, THEN THERE'S NOTHING.

NOTHING IS OFFICIAL UNTIL THE NEGOTIATIONS ARE APPROVED.

ALL THE ALL THE MUNICIPALITIES APPROVE. AND OBVIOUSLY YOUR CITY COUNCIL HAS TO APPROVE FIRST THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND THEN THE COUNTY.

AND THEN AND THAT'S THE AND IT'S A LONG PROCESS.

IT TOOK ME EIGHT MONTHS. WELL, ACTUALLY, IT TOOK A WHOLE YEAR BEFORE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I TALKED TO THEM AND AT THE LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT WAS IN OCTOBER AND THEN ABOUT 11 MONTHS PROCESS. BUT AGAIN, IT'S ABOUT TALKING.

EXCELLENT. OKAY. I HAVE A QUESTION. YES. ANY OF YOUR STAFF OR PRESENTERS? ARE THEY VOLUNTEERS OR IS EVERYBODY PAID? I HAVE A CONTRACTOR WHICH IS PART TIME.

THEY DO BOTH CONTRACTS, THE MARKETING AND THEY'RE NOT VOLUNTEERS.

THEY'RE PROFESSIONALS FOR EDUCATION. THEY SUBCONTRACT STELLA MARIS AND THEY HAVE FULL STAFF AND THEY HAVE TRAINED VOLUNTEERS.

THEY ALL HAVE TO BE TRAINED. AND YOU KNOW, AND I GO AND CHECK THEM OUT.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE JUST I JUST SIMPLY SET THEM LOOSE.

I GO, I GO TO THE AT LEAST ONCE A YEAR TO ONE ADULT PRESENTATION OR ONE SCHOOL OR I SEE THEM AT THE.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON FEST ON OCTOBER 17TH.

I'M DOING A RAIN BARREL WORKSHOP. THAT'S. AND I'M IN MELBOURNE.

WE ALWAYS DO IT EVERY YEAR. SO WE MOVED IT FROM NOVEMBER TO OCTOBER.

WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO MOVE IT BACK TO NOVEMBER NEXT YEAR, BUT OCTOBER 17TH.

THAT'S A GREAT PLACE. THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM PALM BAY REGISTERS FOR MY WORKSHOPS FOR THAT PARTICULAR ONE, BUT I HAVE DONE RAIN BARRELS HERE BEFORE, SO WE'LL GET ONE DONE AND PROBABLY IN THE SUMMER.

ARE WE GETTING FREE ONES AGAIN? YES. OH, OKAY.

YEAH. THERE'S NO NO COST INVOLVED. I JUST I PUT THE LAGOON OIL STICKER AND JUST YOU ONLY COST IS TO PUT UP WITH ME.

BUT BUT NO, THAT'S SOMETHING WHAT WE DO TO ALL MUNICIPALITIES.

IT ROTATES, YOU KNOW, WHETHER OR NOT YOU. BECAUSE I'VE BEEN DOING A LOT IN THE NORTH.

I DID ONE IN MIMS AND ONE IN TITUSVILLE, ONE IN SUNTREE IN THE PAST TWO YEARS.

AND THE TWO THE OBVIOUSLY THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON FEST.

I'M ONE OF THE ORGANIZERS. SO I HAVE MY CONTRACTOR HAVING THE TABLE OUT THERE.

SO I GET TO CHECK THEM OUT AS WELL, SEE HOW THEY DO.

AND THIS YEAR WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TALKS AND, AND INDOORS AT THE CIVIC CENTER NEXT TO THE, THE, THE FRONT STREET PARK AND THE RAIN BARREL IS GOING TO BE AT THE, AT THE BUILDING UP THERE.

SO IT'S VERY EXCITING. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LIVE MUSIC AND THE AND THE RADIO 98.5 THE BEACH.

SO WE'RE DOING A LOT OF STUFF TRYING TO MAKE THE PARKING BETTER AS WELL.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE HOPEFULLY VOLUNTEERS TO HELP US OUT ORGANIZING THE PARKING BECAUSE IT'S HARD.

THAT'S THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON FEST. SO EXCELLENT.

DO I HAVE ANY FURTHER? ONE MORE. DO YOU HAVE SOCIAL MEDIA OR A WEBSITE WHERE YOU EDUCATE PEOPLE OR.

YES, THAT'S WHAT INSTAGRAM, FACEBOOK. THE LAGOON IS EVERYWHERE.

AND WE HAVE TARGETED ADVERTISING. AND WE HAVE, I HAVE MY OWN, I, WE, I RUN, I MANAGE THE BREVARD COUNTY NATURAL RESOURCES MANAGEMENT FACEBOOK PAGE. I DON'T HAVE TIME TO DO THE OTHER ONE, BUT, BUT AGAIN, OUR MARKETING IS DONE BY PROFESSIONAL SAME COMPANY, BUT THEY SUBCONTRACT EDUCATION AND THEY DO HAVE SOME VOLUNTEERS WHO ARE TRAINED AND I CHECK THEM OUT.

I DON'T WANT, YOU KNOW, I WANT MY JOB IS TO MAKE SURE THAT MY CUSTOMER, WHICH ARE THE MUNICIPALITIES, ARE WELL SERVED. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OVER HERE FROM MY LEFT SIDE OF THE BOARD? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, I WILL ASK YOU A COUPLE QUESTIONS. JUST RIGHT OFF THE BAT, YOU TOUCHED ON A BUNCH OF THINGS, BUT AGAIN, I WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT AND SPEAKING TO THE BOARD. I THINK YOU WERE SPOT ON THAT HAVING THE BOARD'S BLESSINGS.

AND THIS IS A GOOD FIRST STARTING POINT FOR US.

WE WERE ABLE TO ASK A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND KIND OF HELP SUPPORT THE PROCESS ALONG THE WAY.

THE FIRST THING I WANTED TO ASK WAS HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN SINCE PALM BAY WAS PART OF THE CONSORTIUM OR HAVE WE NEVER BEEN? I DON'T THINK THEY WERE. THIS STARTED IN 2011 WHEN WITH WITH BLUE LIFE BACK THEN.

AND WE SENT ALL US, WE SENT IT TO ALL THE, THE CITY COUNCIL MUNICIPALITIES

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I HAD TO LOOK AT THE RECORDS WHETHER OR NOT THEY.

I DON'T BELIEVE THEY SIGNED UP. OKAY. SATELLITE BEACH DID.

AND THEN THEY GOT OUT A COUPLE OF YEARS LATER.

FOR MANY DIFFERENT REASONS. BLUE LIFE DOESN'T QUITE, YOU KNOW, IT WAS DIFFICULT TO GET PEOPLE ATTRACTED TO THE LAGOON OR, YOU KNOW, AND IT WAS THE BEGINNING AND THE TECHNOLOGY WASN'T AS GOOD AS TODAY, ESPECIALLY IN MARKETING.

SO WE CHANGED EVERYTHING. YOU KNOW, I WAS WHEN I GOT HIRED, THE BLUE LIFE ONLY HAD ONE MORE MONTH OF EXISTENCE AND THEY LET IT DIE.

AND THEN WE DIDN'T. WE HAD TO DO EVERY FIVE YEARS A NEW REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FOR OUR CONTRACTORS.

SO NOT ONLY WE DID A REQUEST OP OR RFP, BUT WE DID ALSO ONCE WE HIRED A MARKETING COMPANY, WHICH WAS MTN BASED IN SATELLITE BEACH. WE, THEY'RE ALL LOCAL, YOU KNOW, MELBOURNE BEACH SPARK THAT IS BASED IN MELBOURNE BEACH.

EXCELLENT. SO WE DEVELOPED LAGOON LOYAL FOR US AND IT'S BEEN, WE HAD COVID, YOU KNOW, RIGHT AFTER THAT.

SO IT WAS DIFFICULT. BUT NOW WE'RE GOING BACK ON OUR FEET AND IT'S WORKING REALLY WELL, ESPECIALLY WITH THE TECHNOLOGY.

EXCELLENT. DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.

I WILL OPEN IT UP REAL QUICK. BE MINDFUL OF TIME FOR DISCUSSION TO THE BOARD.

ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO BRING UP AT THIS POINT, JUST AS A DISCUSSION AS OPPOSED TO MORE SO A QUESTION AS YOU WERE SAYING THIS PROGRAM HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE IN SOME FORM SINCE 2011. THE SORREL TAX WAS APPROVED ON BY PALM BAY CITIZENS AND CITIZENS ABROAD COUNTY IN 2016.

WE HAVE 150,000 PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY WHO HAVE BEEN PAYING DILIGENTLY ON THAT SORREL TAX AND LOVING IT.

AND I UNDERSTAND THE LAGOON SERVES US ALL. BUT I THINK THAT THIS WOULD BE A GOOD WAY FOR US TO GET OUR MONEY'S WORTH.

IF WE TRY TO, SO TO SPEAK. WE'VE ALL BEEN PAYING INTO THIS TAX FOR A DECADE.

WE WANT TO SEE IT GET EXTENDED. I THINK THIS IS A PHENOMENAL OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY TO GET SOME OF THAT INVESTMENT COMING BACK DIRECTLY TOWARDS OUR WAY.

THE OTHER THING THAT I KIND OF WANTED TO IT STUCK IN MY BRAIN WHEN I'M SORRY.

WHEN YOU WERE SPEAKING OF THE COST TO THE CITY.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS IN THE BUDGET HEARING THIS PAST WEEK WAS A SOCIAL MEDIA OUTREACH MANAGER THAT WAS PART OF PUBLIC WORKS, I BELIEVE IT WAS. THEY WERE BUDGETED FOR 160,000 SOMETHING DOLLARS.

I THINK USING THAT 41,000. I KNOW THAT THE BOARD KIND OF PUT A FREEZE ON THAT POSITION.

THE COUNCIL PUT A FREEZE ON THAT POSITION, BUT I THINK TRYING TO UTILIZE SOME OF THAT FUNDING AND TO KIND OF SERVE THE SAME ROLE ESSENTIALLY AS WE AS A BOARD CONTINUE TO GROW AND CONTINUE TO REACH OUT TO EVENTS IN THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE AND HAVE A PRESENCE OURSELVES.

I THINK HAVING THAT PARTNERSHIP WITH LAGOON LOYAL.

THE MARKETING THAT COMES WITH THAT, THE OUTREACH THAT THEY HAVE WOULD DO WONDERS FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HE'S NOT HERE WITH US, BUT MR. KEVIN BRINKLEY, THE HEAD OF PUBLIC WORKS, HAS SAID BEFORE IN THE PAST IS WHY DOES OUR WHY DOESN'T PALM BAY GET ALL THE THINGS? WHY IS MELBOURNE THE LEADER IN HERE? WE'RE THE BIGGEST CITY IN BREVARD COUNTY. WHY DOES. WHY IS MELBOURNE TAKING THE LEAD? SO I THINK THIS WOULD BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR THE BOARD TO SUPPORT LAGOON LOYAL. TRY TO GET THAT ACCESS TO THOSE MARKETING THINGS, THOSE EVENTS AND STRENGTHEN THAT RELATIONSHIP WITHIN THE CONSORTIUM.

IF I MAY SAY IF YOU'RE PART OF OUR CONSORTIUM, YOUR CITY LOGO WAS GOING TO BE ON THE WEBSITE.

AND WHEN WE DO EVENTS HERE, YOU KNOW, AND THEY'RE ADVERTISED, THEY'LL HAVE THE CITY LOGO AS WELL.

SO YOU HAVE THE CITY PRESENCE. SO DON'T WANT TO GIVE THE IMPRESSION THAT LAGOON LOYAL IS ERASING EVERYTHING.

WE, WHEN WE DO, WHEN WE DO LIKE WHEN WE PUT LAGOON LOYAL, WE DON'T PUT NECESSARILY THE COUNTY LOGO BECAUSE IT'S A COUNTY PROGRAM MUCH LIKE RESTORE SHORES AT THE BREVARD ZOO. THAT'S ALSO ONE OF OUR PROGRAMS FROM OUR DEPARTMENT.

WE PAY THE BREVARD ZOO. WE CONTRACT THEM TO DO THAT JOB FOR THEM, BUT HARDLY PEOPLE KNOW.

SO, BUT IT IS ASSUMED A LITTLE, YOU KNOW, LAGOON LOYALTY COUNTY PROGRAM.

BUT WHEN IT'S FOR THE CITIES, WE PUT THE, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE DOING EVENTS FOR THE CITY, DO WE PUT THE LOGO THERE? IF WE DO ANY ADVERTISING FOR IT FOR AN EVENT OR A VISIT OR WHATEVER.

SO FOR MANY REASONS, BUT ALSO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE, THE, WHEN NOT TONY DIAZ IS MOVED ON TO, TO, TO PHASE ONE. BUT WHEN, WHEN THE INSPECTOR, WHEN THE AUDITOR COMES, THEY KNOW THAT YOU ARE IN A CONSORTIUM AS WELL.

SO THERE'S EVIDENCE OF IT. AND, BUT THERE'S ALSO PRESENCE THAT THE CITY IS INVOLVED IN IT.

SO I GUESS FROM A PROCEDURAL ASPECT, DEREK, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO ASSIST WITH THIS.

I IMAGINE LOOKING BACK ACROSS THE BOARD THAT WE MIGHT HAVE CONSENSUS THAT THE BOARD WOULD SUPPORT THE LAGOON LOYAL PROGRAM.

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WHAT WOULD THE PROCESS BE IF THE BOARD WAS TO SUPPORT THAT? WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING PUBLIC WORKS WOULD HANDLE? FROM THERE? OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD WANT TO PRESENT TO COUNCIL? SURE.

YES, SIR. IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY BE ADDED TO THE ROLL CALL, PLEASE, BEFORE I PROCEED.

YES. I WANT TO POINT OF ORDER. MR. MARVIN HAS IS PRESENT AT THE MEETING.

OKAY, JUST A QUICK QUESTION. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND.

SO WE HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT BEING THIS CONSORTIUM.

I HEAR DISCUSSION ABOUT SOCIAL MEDIA AND MARKETING, AND I SEE ABOUT CITY LOGOS AND WHATNOT, BUT I WANT TO HEAR ABOUT TANGIBLE ASPECTS THAT ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO HELP AND IMPACT OUR CITY.

THE CHAIR HAS DISCUSSED HOW TAXPAYER MONEY HAD BEEN UTILIZED AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

BUT BEFORE WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND, LIKE, HOW IS THIS GOING TO HELP THE CITY OF PALM BAY? SO I HEAR THE MARKETING PIECE. I HEAR THE CITY LOGO PIECE.

I HEAR ABOUT THESE EVENTS, BUT WHAT OTHER DIRECT ASPECTS IS GOING TO IMPACT CITY OF PALM BAY? AND I KNOW THE STAFF HAD MENTIONED ABOUT THE TWO OF THE BMPS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, BUT I'M NOT I'M NOT HEARING THE DIRECT CONNECTION.

THE NEXUS IS HOW IT'S ASSISTING. IF I CAN GO BACK, ALL THIS STUFF HAS TO BE DONE, OR MOST OF IT HAS TO BE DONE BY THE PERMIT.

THE CITY HAS IT, THE COUNTY HAS IT. AND, AND PRETTY MUCH IT'S SIMILAR THAT YOU HAVE EDUCATION AND MARKETING.

THEY'RE THE FIRST TWO ELEMENTS OF IT AND EVERYBODY HAS TO DO THEM.

OKAY. SO WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY HERE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, SINCE IT HAS TO BE DONE ANYHOW WHERE'S MY SLIDE? I WAS TRYING TO LOOK FOR THE SLIDE. OKAY. SEE IF YOU.

IT WILL BASICALLY ONE, IT HAS TO BE DONE BY FEDERAL LAW.

OKAY. AND IT'S ADMINISTERED BY THE STATE AND THE, THE CITY GETS AUDITED.

BASICALLY, WHEN WE DO OUR WORK, WE PROVIDE ALL THAT WORK.

WE HAVE TO PROVIDE HOW MANY PEOPLE WE TALKED TO ON AN EVENT, HOW MANY PAMPHLETS WE GAVE, CATEGORIZE THE PAMPHLETS, WE DO ALL THAT WORK, AND THEN WE WRITE A REPORT AND WE GIVE ALL THE FILES TO HIM.

ALL HE HAS TO DO FOR THOSE TWO ELEMENTS WHEN HE GETS AUDITED, HERE THEY ARE.

SO WE'LL DO ALL THE HARD WORK FOR HIM. HE DOESN'T HAVE TO.

HE'S FREE TO DO THE OTHER FIVE ELEMENTS. OKAY, SO THAT TAKES PRESSURE OFF OF HIM.

OKAY, SO THAT'S HOW ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS THAT THE CITY BENEFITS, ONE, BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE DONE.

SECOND, BECAUSE IT RELIEVES A LOT OF THE WORK.

WE DO IT FOR THEM. THE MARKETING IS THE OTHER ASPECT OF IT.

AND THAT'S WHERE THE SOIL MONEY PART OF IT COMES FROM.

YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE THE CONSTRUCTION AS WELL.

AND IT, IT WORKS REALLY WELL. YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT ALSO HAS TO BE DONE.

AND THEN WE PROVIDE THE, WE PROVIDE THE METRICS.

WE HAVE TONS OF METRICS. SO ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS FIGURE OUT WHEN YOUR.

WE HELP YOU FIGURE OUT WHEN YOUR CYCLE IS. AND THEN, OH, THESE ARE THE NUMBER OF HITS WE GOT AND THEN REPORT THEM TO TO DEP FOR PHASE TWO.

SO THAT'S WHY OTHER MUNICIPALITIES HIRE US TO DO IT BECAUSE IT WILL THEY'RE MORE THAN GLAD THEY SAID, I DON'T WANT TO MESS AROUND WITH THIS, YOU KNOW, FULL TIME.

THEY GO TO OUR MEETING ONCE A YEAR AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE A CHANCE, YOU KNOW, TO LOOK AT THINGS.

THEY HAVE TO REVIEW THEM OR NOT. AND THERE ARE ANY CONCERNS OR THEY CAN CALL US ANYTIME ANYHOW.

AND THAT'S WHERE THE BENEFIT COMES FROM. BUT THERE IS A COST FOR CITY OF PALM BAY BASED ON THE POPULATION OF WHAT I UNDERSTAND.

CORRECT? YES. IT'S ORIGINALLY BASED ON POPULATION AND.

YEAH. OKAY. IF I MAY JUST DIRECT TO CITY STAFF, CITY STAFF, BASED ON WHAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED THUS FAR, WHAT'S YOUR RECOMMENDATION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD CONSIDER RECOMMENDING THIS MEASURE? SO AFTER CONFIRMING WITH THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, CHRISTINE SULLIVAN THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAVE TO GO INTO THE PUBLIC WORKS BUDGET, WHICH THEN WOULD NEED TO GET APPROVED BY COUNCIL. THE 2027 YEARLY BUDGET HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN GO INTO THIS NEXT COMING YEAR.

OH, THIS IS 20. SORRY. I'M SORRY. THIS IS FOR 2028.

GOTCHA. SO THAT WOULD HAVE TO GO INTO THE BUDGET.

HAVE TO GET APPROVED BY COUNCIL. MARVIN WHAT WAS YOUR QUESTION? IN LIGHT OF THE FACTS GIVEN TO US TODAY, DO YOU RECOMMEND THAT WE PROCEED WITH THIS? CONSIDER THIS TO SUBMIT THIS TO TO CITY COUNCIL OR NOT? MYSELF, PERSONALLY, I DO NOT BELIEVE WE SHOULD GO INTO THE CONSORTIUM.

OKAY. WELL, I DON'T RECOMMEND TO GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

NO. I THINK THE NEXT STEP WILL BE NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE DEPARTMENT.

AND THEN THEN ONCE THE NEGOTIATIONS ARE DONE AND IS SATISFIED THAT IT'S FULFILLED, THEN YOU DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT TO TAKE IT TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

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SPEAKING OF, I'M SORRY, I DON'T WANT TO A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING ON, ON, YOU KNOW, ON THAT AGREEMENT THAT'S ON THAT NEGOTIATION.

NOTHING CAN HAPPEN. SO I WOULD NOT BOTHER THE COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, THAT CITY COUNCIL WITH IT BECAUSE IT'S A IT'S A IT'S A THERE'S NOTHING THERE. IT'S JUST A BIG BLOB. YEAH. I THINK YOU SAID IT TOOK A YEAR TO GET.

YES. WE DIDN'T TAKE IT TO CITY COUNCIL UNTIL KATE HELMS AND, AND HER HELPER.

WE FINISHED NEGOTIATIONS. WE HAD A, WE HAD A DRAFT CONTRACT WITH THE DELIVERABLES.

AND IT'S GOING TO BE THE DELIVERABLES FOR THIS YEAR FOR, YOU KNOW, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, SO THERE'S.

AT THIS POINT, THE. WHAT I RECOMMEND IS WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO START NEGOTIATING, YOU KNOW, TALKS. YEAH. THAT THAT'S THAT'S ALL. AND THEN WE HAD TALKS AND IT MAY WORK.

IT MAY NOT WORK. AND THEN YOU HAVE MORE QUESTIONS.

WE ANSWER ALL THOSE QUESTIONS AS WELL. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, CHAIR.

MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. WHY AREN'T YOU FOCUSING MORE ON GRANT MONEY? BECAUSE THAT'S USUALLY THE WAY STUFF LIKE THIS WORKS.

LIKE THE MRC WORKS TOTALLY ON GRANTS AND THEY DO QUITE WELL.

YEAH. WE DID HAVE A GRANT FOR RAIN BARREL WORKSHOPS, SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET GRANTS, YOU KNOW, BUT BASICALLY IT, IT, I DID IT IN PALM BAY, BUT THEY WEREN'T IN A CONSORTIUM, SO IT COUNTED FOR ME.

BUT THERE ARE GRANTS THAT YOU CAN GET. THERE ARE COUNTY WIDE.

THERE'S THE SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION BOARD GIVES GRANTS.

THE USDA DOES. MOST OF THE APPLICATIONS ARE DUE OCTOBER 1ST FOR THESE GRANTS, BUT THEY'RE OUT THERE.

AND TO ME, IT JUST MAKES MORE SENSE FOR A MARKETING TYPE THING.

AND, YOU KNOW, THIS IS LIKE A GRANT IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS RIGHT HERE, YOU SEE, YOU KNOW, THE, ALL THE MUNICIPALITIES 46,000. THAT'S WHAT ALL THE MUNICIPALITIES RIGHT NOW FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2027 PAY.

THAT'S NOT THE COUNTY THAT DOESN'T THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE COUNTY.

IF YOU ADD THE 46 FOR THE 59. SO BASICALLY YOU'RE GETTING A GRANT.

NO, YOU KNOW, WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT THERE ARE DEPARTMENTS ALREADY STRUCTURED STATE AND FEDERAL THAT WILL FUND THINGS LIKE THIS. AND EVEN JUST DOING FUNDRAISERS, YOU PROBABLY SHOULD TALK TO DOCTOR WILSON AND MAYBE GET SOME.

WELL, I KNOW DOCTOR WILSON. THERE USED TO BE.

THERE WERE A. MRC WAS A FORMER CONTRACTOR OF US UNDER THIS PROGRAM PREVIOUSLY NOT.

SHE WASN'T THERE. BUT THEY DO QUITE WELL RIGHT NOW.

AND YEAH, NO, IT'S IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE. BUT IN THIS PROGRAM SPECIFICALLY, WE ARE THE GRANT.

MISTER CHAIR. YES, SIR. IF I MAY INTERJECT JUST FOR THE INTEREST OF TIME IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, WE'D BE HAPPY TO RELAY THOSE TO CARLOS. AND THEN, CARLOS, IF YOU COULD GET BACK IN TOUCH WITH THEM AT THEIR CONVENIENCE.

BUT AGAIN, ALL WE HAVE. WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? NEGOTIATIONS. WE DON'T WANT TO SKIP THE THE THING AND THEN SEE WHERE WE'RE AT AND HOW DOES IT FIT AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

YEAH, I KIND OF THE PART THAT STUCK WITH ME WAS THAT IT TAKES A YEAR TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

AND I THINK THAT'S THE EARLY PART THAT WE'RE STARTING ON NOW.

AND THAT'S KIND OF THE PART THAT I WANTED TO SEE IF THE BOARD WOULD HAVE ANY CONSENSUS TO CONTINUING WITH THAT DISCUSSION.

BUT I DON'T BELIEVE WE NEED A MOTION AT THIS TIME.

CORRECT. YEAH, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT TAKING ACTION ON IT.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR, FOR YOUR TIME AND THE GREAT PRESENTATION.

AT THIS TIME WE WILL MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS A REVIEW OF THE PROPOSED CITY CODE CHANGES.

DATA CENTER RESTRICTIONS. SINCE I AM PRESENTING THAT TONIGHT.

I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND BEHIND THIS THIS, THAT WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN TONIGHT.

THE BOARD HAS A COPY PUBLIC THERE IS A COPY OVER THERE NEXT TO THE AGENDAS IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO FOLLOW ALONG.

THESE ARE ZONING CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION AND SUGGESTED THAT THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD TAKE A LOOK AT THEM MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE THINGS THAT ARE CONSISTENT WITH OUR VISION FOR SUSTAINABILITY IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY MOVING FORWARD.

I KNOW EVERYBODY AND THEIR BROTHER WOULD LIKE TO, AND MYSELF INCLUDED, PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO PUT A TOTAL BAN ON ALL AI DATA CENTERS IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY. THAT'S A BIG POPULAR OPINION.

BUT THE REALITY BEHIND IT IS THEY DO HAVE BENEFITS TO THEM.

WE DO HAVE A GOVERNOR CANDIDATE RUNNING FOR STATE OFFICE ON THE STATE GOVERNOR WHO IS A MAJOR PROPONENT OF AI DATA CENTERS.

THEY CAN BRING THE CITY OF PALM BAY MONEY. SO I DON'T WANT TO NECESSARILY CONSIDER A STRAIGHT UP BAN BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE SUCCESSFUL.

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SO THESE ZONING CHANGES THAT WERE BROUGHT UP MY WAY ARE A WAY FOR US TO MANAGE AI DATA CENTERS.

AND I THINK THAT IS THE BEST WAY AS A SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD, THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT KIND OF A THING.

THEY PROBABLY ARE COMING. I DON'T SEE THE CITY COUNCIL BEING IN A POSITION TO SAY NO AI DATA CENTERS, PERIOD IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY. SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS HAVE A DISCUSSION TONIGHT USING THESE PROPOSED ZONING LAWS OR CHANGES AS TO WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE AS A SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD.

SOME OF THEM ARE NOT NECESSARILY WITHIN OUR WHEELHOUSE, BUT THERE ARE SOME THINGS ON THERE LIKE THE ZONING, THE WATER MANAGEMENT, THE SOUND FREQUENCIES BATTERY STORAGE, GRID, CONCURRENCY, ALL OF THOSE THINGS DO TIE DIRECTLY TO SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD AND OUR MISSION AND WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THE VISION FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY MOVING FORWARD.

SO WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN IT UP TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION.

AND THEN AFTER WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF DISCUSSION, I'D LIKE TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE, SINCE WE HAVE A BUNCH OF NEW MEMBERS IN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT WHO, IF THEY HAVE ANY OPINIONS ON DATA CENTERS HERE IN PALM BAY.

WELL, YOU KNOW, I DO. OF COURSE, I TALKED ABOUT IT THE LAST TIME.

YES. ON THE FIRST ONE, ZONING AND SPATIAL SITING.

ACTUALLY THE SETBACKS ARE NOT SUFFICIENT. IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE SIZE OF THE DATA CENTER.

WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND MORE IS AN INSULATING WALL AROUND THEM THAT DIFFUSES THE FREQUENCIES. AND IT SHOULD ALSO GO INTO THE GROUND BECAUSE THE GROUND FREQUENCIES ARE PROBABLY THE MOST DANGEROUS TO ANYONE WHO HAS CATTLE OR HORSES AND YOU KNOW, WITH FOUR HOOFS ON THE GROUND IT'S, IT'S DISRUPTING THEIR NERVOUS SYSTEMS AND CAUSING STILLBIRTHS WITH THE ANIMALS. WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF THAT IN PALM BAY, BUT WE DO HAVE SOME THE FREQUENCIES ON THE AVERAGE DATA CENTER DISSIPATE ABOUT 10% PER KILOMETER, WHICH IS 0.62 SOMETHING MILES.

SO TO GET AWAY FROM IT, YOU'D HAVE TO GO ABOUT FIVE MILES AWAY FROM THAT.

THE ABOVE GROUND FREQUENCY NOISES SHOULD ALSO BE DIVERTED OR DISRUPTED.

AND I PERSONALLY THINK HEMPCRETE IS THE BEST SUBSTANCE THAT THAT HANDLES THAT YOU CAN MAKE BRICKS OUT OF.

IT TURNS INTO STONE. BUT IF THERE WAS LIKE A GAP BETWEEN THE EXTERIOR WALL AND BLOCKS OF THIS, THAT WOULD DO A LOT TO TO MITIGATE IT. BECAUSE IN REALITY, I LIKE EVERYTHING THAT'S IN HERE, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S REALISTIC. I DON'T BELIEVE WE CAN PREVENT DATA CENTERS FROM OCCURRING ANYWHERE. I HOPE WE DON'T HAVE THEM HERE.

AGAIN, WE HAVE ROGUE VALLEY, WHICH IS A CHIP MAKING FACTORY WHICH IS DOING TERRIBLE THINGS TO THE WATER.

AND I LIKE THAT SECTION A LOT. AS THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD.

WE REALLY DO HAVE TO FOCUS ON RECHARGING THE AQUIFER AND DOING OUR BEST AS CITIZENS TO NOT JUST CONSERVE WATER, BUT TO HELP REPLENISH IT.

THERE ARE AIR TO WATER SYSTEMS THAT ARE GREAT AND THEY DON'T COST MUCH.

YOU CAN MAKE THEM YOURSELVES. AND JUST DOING EVERYTHING YOU CAN TO RECHARGE OUR AQUIFERS, WHICH ARE DRYING UP AND NOT ENOUGH IS SAID ABOUT THAT. BUT AS FAR AS THE SOUND GOES I DON'T THINK THIS GOES ENOUGH. I MEAN IT'S FINE.

THEY CAN IMPLEMENT IT. I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S GOING TO BE FOLLOWED OR HOW THEY WOULD POLICE IT.

LET'S SEE. THERE IS IN SECTION EIGHT LEGAL SAFEGUARDS AND ENFORCEMENT.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I CIRCLED ON HERE THAT I THINK IS CRUCIAL ARE CRUCIAL.

IF WE WERE TO IMPLEMENT SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS IMMEDIATE REVOCATION POWERS GIVES DIRECT AUTHORITY TO THE CITY MANAGER AND CODE ENFORCEMENT TO ISSUE IMMEDIATE STOP ORDERS AND REVOKE CERTIFICATES OF OCCUPANCY AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS FOR UNAUTHORIZED AQUIFER PUMPING, TOXIC RUNOFF, AND PERSISTENT DECIBEL VIOLATIONS.

I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE STRONGEST THINGS IN THIS.

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HAVING THAT IMMEDIATE REVOCATION POWERS IS A VERY IMPORTANT ASPECT OF IT.

WE CAN GIVE THE CITY MANAGER AND CODE ENFORCEMENT THE ABILITY TO SHUT THE DATA CENTER DOWN IF THEY ARE NOT ENFORCING, BUT TYPICALLY IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, IN ORDER FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT TO DO ANYTHING, SOMEBODY HAS TO COMPLAIN ABOUT IT.

AND SOMETIMES SEVERAL PEOPLE HAVE TO COMPLAIN ABOUT IT.

AND IT USUALLY MEANS THAT LAWS HAVE TO BE CHANGED TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

THERE'S ALWAYS RELUCTANCE. IF, IF A DATA CENTER COMES IN, THEY BRING IN A LOT OF MONEY, SUPPOSEDLY.

I DON'T KNOW HOW I DON'T THINK THEY HIRE A LOT OF PEOPLE, BUT YOU KNOW, MONEY TALKS.

THAT'S THE REALITY THAT WE'RE IN. AND BECAUSE OF THAT, OUR RESOURCES, WELL, OUR, OUR RESOURCES ARE LIMITED BECAUSE PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD ALL THE THINGS THAT, THAT THEY'RE BRINGING AND THEY'RE NOT BRINGING JOBS NECESSARILY.

IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN IN A DATA CENTER, THERE'S A LOT OF MACHINES AND MAYBE 1 OR 2 PEOPLE WALKING AROUND WITH HEADPHONES ON.

BUT YOU KNOW, I, I, I ADMIRE THE EFFORT AND I, I'M FINE WITH GOING AHEAD WITH IT.

I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO SOLVE IT. I HOPE P AND Z STANDS UP TO THEM AND RESPECTS THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE AROUND THESE AREAS AND THAT THEY TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE ENVIRONMENTAL EFFECTS.

THERE ARE NATURAL WAYS WHICH I TALKED ABOUT AT LAST MEETING TO MITIGATE THE THE WATER AND THE AIR CONDITIONING AND THE NOISE. YOU KNOW, I, I WOULD HOPE THOSE THINGS WOULD BE ENCOURAGED.

BUT ANYWAY, THERE'S A LOT IN HERE. I'M FOR IT.

I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE ENOUGH. I, I I'M AGAINST DATA CENTERS.

I KNOW THEY'RE HARD TO STOP, BUT I BELIEVE THEY ARE.

THE NEED FOR THEM IS DRIVEN BY AI. AND I DON'T REALLY WANT AI IN MY LIFE.

I TRY TO RESTRICT IT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. I DON'T WANT THE AI OVERVIEW.

I WANT TO READ THE ARTICLE. SO I ALSO DON'T THINK THESE ARE I MEAN, THEY'RE GREAT, BUT I DON'T THINK THEY'RE ADEQUATE.

AND I DON'T SEE HOW WE'D BE ABLE TO KNOW IF THEY WERE FOLLOWING THESE RULES.

I MEAN, THEY MAY INSTALL IT THAT WAY, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WOULD KNOW IF THEY WERE VIOLATING THEM AFTER THAT.

I DON'T SEE HOW WE COULD, YOU KNOW, UNLESS WE HAVE SOMEBODY ON SITE 24 OVER SEVEN WALKING AROUND THE PROPERTY AND CHECKING ALL THE MONITORS AND GAUGES AND WHATEVER. I DON'T I'M AGAINST DATA CENTERS IN.

YES, I'VE SAID IT BEFORE. PEOPLE CAN PUT THE INFORMATION THEY WANT TO SAVE ON A THUMB DRIVE INSTEAD OF IN THE CLOUD, AND WE WOULDN'T NEED IT. AND THEN, YEAH, I'D BE BETTER OFF.

THANK YOU. SINCE THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'RE ABLE TO REALLY DISCUSS THIS, I WASN'T SURE IF THIS LIST WAS A COMPREHENSIVE EVERYTHING WE'RE TRYING TO DO OR IF IT WAS LIKE, WHAT DO WE WANT TO PICK FROM HERE? YEAH, IT'S KIND OF JUST A STARTING POINT FOR THE DISCUSSION.

OKAY. SO I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT OUR MAIN GOALS HERE WOULD BE, AS STEPH SAID, TO PROTECT THE AQUIFER WITHOUT BEING A MAJOR CONCERN AS WELL AS THE ENVIRONMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY. SOME OF THE THINGS I WAS LOOKING INTO WOULD BE IF WE COULD REQUIRE A SPECIAL EXEMPTION OR SPECIAL USE PERMITS.

I'M NOT REALLY SURE EXACTLY WHAT THE CODE IS ALREADY SET UP TO BE.

SO IF WE COULD GET A COPY OF THAT AS WELL, TO KIND OF CROSS-REFERENCE AND SEE WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST TO ADD IN.

BUT I THINK IT'S ALSO GOING TO COME DOWN TO TRYING TO, TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE THINGS THAT THEY WOULD BE INCREASING.

SO ANY INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS THAT ARE CREATED, WHO'S GOING TO BE LEGALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT? IS IT GOING TO BE THE CITY IS NOW RESPONSIBLE, OR ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO HOLD THE DEVELOPERS OF THESE THESE PLACES ACCOUNTABLE FOR THAT? YEAH. SOME OF THE SUGGESTIONS IN HERE ACTUALLY DO TALK ABOUT THAT A BIT.

I BELIEVE WHERE WAS IT? YEAH. GRID CONCURRENCY IS LISTED ON THERE.

THAT'S GOING TO BE DEVELOPER FUNDED ON THERE AS PART OF THE CODES.

THERE WAS ALSO SOMEWHERE IN HERE ABOUT MANDATORY DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS FOR INFRASTRUCTURE MITIGATION HEAVY HAUL ROADWAY BONDS FIBER LINES. THERE WAS A SECTION IN SECTION TWO ON THE FRONT ABOUT INCREASING, HAVING THE DEVELOPER PAY FOR THE WATER LINES. THAT MIGHT BE NEEDED IN THERE FOR USING RECLAIMED WATER.

IF IT DOES COME INTO THAT, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ALLOWED TO USE THE AQUIFER OR POTABLE WATER.

BUT ANY EMERGENCY SYSTEMS THAT COULD BE A FUNDING SOURCE POTENTIALLY FOR THE CITY TO SELL THEM RECLAIMED WATER IN AN EMERGENCY.

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SO THERE ARE SOME THINGS IN THIS THAT DOES TALK ABOUT THAT CONCURRENCY ASPECT AND THAT THE DEVELOPERS WOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR IT.

IT'S A START. IT'S A START. SO I WOULDN'T REJECT IT.

I JUST THINK THAT GOOD LUCK. YES, WELL, WE UNDERSTAND THE HILL THAT WE ARE TRYING TO CLIMB HERE.

BUT AS WE CAN SEE IN THE AUDIENCE WE HAD THE PALM BAY ACTUALLY PROMOTED TONIGHT'S MEETING.

AND WE HAVE ONE OF OUR HIGHEST ATTENDANCES IN SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD HISTORY PROBABLY TONIGHT.

SO DATA CENTERS ARE A BIG THING FOR THE COMMUNITY.

AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY SHOULD BE AWARE OF IS A HOT BUTTON ISSUE.

AND IF WE ARE GOING TO OPEN THE DOORS FOR DATA CENTERS IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, NOT SAYING WE SHOULD BUT IF WE ARE GOING TO DO THAT, WHICH SEEMS LIKELY GIVEN THE POLITICAL CLIMATE IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA WE WANT TO DO IT IN A SUSTAINABLE, MANAGEABLE WAY. AND I THINK THAT'S WHY WE BROUGHT THIS UP TONIGHT.

WE HAVE A BIT OF A GUIDELINE TO WORK OFF OF. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS THE BOARD POTENTIALLY TAKE THESE HOME, MULL THEM OVER, FIGURE OUT WHAT MIGHT BE GOOD, WHAT MIGHT NOT BE GOOD, HOW WE CAN TWEAK THINGS A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

AND WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO BRING IT UP AGAIN ON A FUTURE MEETING JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE LEADING THE EFFORT FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

ALTHOUGH WE MAY BE PUSHING THE BOULDER UP THE HILL, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S BETTER THAN NOT TRYING TO PUSH THE BOULDER UP THE HILL.

THERE ARE WAYS TO MITIGATE WHATEVER. SHOULD WE WIND UP WITH ONE? AND I THINK WE HAVE TO BE PREPARED FOR THAT. I'D LIKE TO SEE THERE'S A LOT OF THEY CAN'T DO THIS, THAT AND THE OTHER THING, BUT NO SUGGESTIONS ON HOW TO, HOW TO MITIGATE.

SO. EXCELLENT. YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. SO FIRST, I THINK WE SHOULD GO BACK TO THE FOUNDATION.

LIKE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD, WHAT DOES SUSTAINABILITY MEAN? AND WHAT I SAID BEFORE IN MY PREVIOUS POSITION PAPER AMALGAMATED THE DEFINITION OF SUSTAINABILITY IS RESPONSIBLE STEWARDSHIP OF ENVIRONMENTAL, ECONOMIC, AND COMMUNITY RESOURCES IN A MANNER THAT MEETS THE NEEDS OF THE PRESENT WHILE PRESERVING THE HEALTH, SAFETY, RESILIENCE, PROSPERITY, AND QUALITY OF LIFE OF FUTURE GENERATIONS.

IT IS ACHIEVED THROUGH INFORMED DECISION MAKING THAT PROTECTS NATURAL RESOURCES, PROMOTES EFFICIENT USE OF PUBLIC ASSETS, STRENGTHENS COMMUNITY RESILIENCE TO NATURAL AND HUMAN CAUSED HAZARDS, AND SUPPORTS ECONOMIC VITALITY AND ENCOURAGES PUBLIC EDUCATION AND CIVIC ENGAGEMENT.

SO WE KNOW THAT DATA CENTERS WOULD BE A HUMAN CAUSED HAZARD, OBVIOUSLY, BUT I THINK THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER GOING THROUGH THESE ONE BY ONE.

IT'S LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY OR SOMEONE HAD MENTIONED WITH REGARDS TO IMMEDIATE REVOCATION POWERS.

I'M THINKING ABOUT LOOK AT THE, THE OTHER SIDE, YOU KNOW, THAT THE OTHER SIDE HAS A MANNER, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE JUST GOING TO SHUT DOWN A DATA CENTER PER SE, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY GOING TO BE AN IMPACT ON THAT PERSON, WHETHER IT'S A DATA CENTER, WHETHER IT'S A HOME, A STORE OR SOME SORT, IT'S GOING TO HAVE AN IMPACT ON THAT INDIVIDUAL, THEIR PROFITS, PEOPLE WHO WORK IN THAT LOCATION OBVIOUSLY BUILDING THE DATA CENTER THAT'S GOING TO BRING BUSINESS TO BREVARD COUNTY, THERE'S GOING TO BE BUSINESSES THAT ARE GOING TO BE EMPLOYED TO, TO BUILD THAT UP.

I'M NOT SURE AS TO THE INNER WORKINGS ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS, BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE NEED TO BE CAREFULLY CONSIDER HERE.

SO WE MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION. AND WE ALSO NEED TO HEAR FROM, YOU KNOW, THOSE WHO ARE GATHERED HERE FIRST BEFORE WE THEN LOOK AT THE RISKS THAT ARE DELINEATED HERE ON THIS PAGE IS RATHER HEAR WHAT THE CONCERNS THAT THEY'RE HAVE THAT THEY HAVE THERE, THE PALM BAY RESIDENTS. AND THEN WE CAN THEN LOOK AT THESE LINE BY LINE AND THEN SEE HOW WE CAN MAKE SURE WE CAN BALANCE THOSE TWO OBJECTIVES.

THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT NOW. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. I THINK THE SECOND PART OF YOUR DISCUSSION GOING LINE BY LINE AND DOING EVERYTHING, I THINK DOING THAT AT A FUTURE MEETING WHERE WE HAVE MORE TIME IS PROBABLY GREAT.

BUT AT THIS TIME, TO YOUR FIRST POINT I'M HEARING ABOUT FROM THE PALM BAY RESIDENTS I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN IT UP TO THE FLOOR TO ANYBODY AS PART OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON DATA CENTERS AND WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE CITY OF PALM BAY OR THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD TRY TO PROMOTE IN THAT ASPECT.

IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT TONIGHT.

ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE. YES. YES. IF YOU COULD COME UP TO THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME.

I'M SORRY. I'LL GET YOU THERE. THAT'S OKAY. THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS LAURIE ROULETTE. I LIVE IN SOUTHWEST PALM BAY.

AND MY QUESTION IS TO ANY OF YOU WHO LIVE IN SOUTHWEST OR SOUTHEAST PALM BAY.

I PERSONALLY DO NOT. I'M IN NORTHEAST. I DON'T LIVE THERE NOW, BUT I GREW UP OUT THERE.

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AND I WILL BE BRINGING MORE OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THOSE COMMUNITIES.

AND I 100% AGREE WITH YOUR CONCERNS AS WELL WITH AI AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

AND THIS CANNOT BE ABOUT MONEY. THERE IS MORE TO LIFE THAN MONEY.

THERE IS QUALITY OF LIFE BECAUSE YES, IT WILL BRING MONEY IN, BUT A LOT OF THAT MONEY IS GOING TO BE SHORT TERM AND IT IS GOING TO BUILD THIS BIG CENTER, AND THEN WE ARE GOING TO BE LEFT WITH EVERYTHING TO DEAL WITH IT.

AND NOBODY KNOWS THE FUTURE OF WHAT THESE CENTERS ARE GOING TO BRING TO THE COMMUNITY, WHETHER IT'S HEALTH CONCERNS OR WHAT IF IT NEEDS TO GET SHUT DOWN, AND THEN WE'RE LEFT WITH THAT. THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS TO DEAL WITH IN EVERY ASPECT.

SO I'M REALLY INTERESTED TO SEE WHAT YOU BRING TO THE FLOOR IN THE FUTURE.

I'M GOING TO GO HOME AND I'M GOING TO LOOK OVER EVERYTHING THAT YOU DID BRING TO US TONIGHT. AND I THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TONIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO SPEAK? I WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR COMING UP AND SPEAKING. I KNOW IT'S IT'S KIND OF A WEIRD SITUATION FOR PEOPLE TO PUT THEMSELVES IN SOMETIMES. TO YOUR POINT THE SUSTAINABILITY IS FOCUSING ON THE FUTURE. LIKE YOU SAID, IF WE DO ALLOW A GIGANTIC DATA CENTER TO BUILD ITSELF OUT AND TEN YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, IT'S NO LONGER PROFITABLE. HOW ARE WE GOING TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THAT DATA CENTER THAT THEN BECOMES A BURDEN ON THE CITY AND THE POPULATION AROUND IT? SO THAT IS SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. I DO APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT UP. THANK YOU. AND IT CANNOT BE ABOUT MONEY THAT'S COMING TO THE AREA.

THAT COULD BE SHORT TERM. IT'S GOT TO BE ABOUT THE QUALITY OF PALM BAY.

YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? YES, MA'AM. YEAH. THANK YOU. DEREK.

THAT THING GETS CONFUSING EVEN AS SOMEBODY WHO USES A REGULAR BASIS.

SORRY FOR GETTING HERE LATE. MY NAME IS JAN AND I LIVE IN NORTHEAST PALM BAY.

SO FOR GETTING HERE LATE. IS THERE A NEED FOR A DATA CENTER IN THIS AREA OR IS THERE JUST A WANT? I DON'T THINK THERE'S EITHER. RIGHT NOW I THINK WE'RE JUST TRYING TO PLAN FOR THE FUTURE.

SO GIVEN THE POLITICAL CLIMATE IN FLORIDA AND ONE OF THE TWO GOVERNOR CANDIDATES THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BECOME GOVERNOR OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA IS VERY GUNG HO ABOUT DATA CENTERS. PALM BAY IS A GROWING AREA WITH A LOT OF CHEAP LAND.

SO WE ARE JUST TRYING TO BE COGNIZANT OF THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT OPPORTUNITIES AS A QUOTE UNQUOTE, THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT EXIST FOR A DATA. SOMEBODY WHO OWNS A DATA CENTER TO GO, THAT PLACE IS CHEAP.

THAT PLACE IS OPEN. LET'S BUILD THERE. SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET OUT AHEAD OF THAT.

THAT'S KIND OF WHAT TONIGHT'S DISCUSSION IS ABOUT AND WHAT KIND OF GUIDELINES THE CITY WOULD BE ABLE TO PUT IN PLACE.

WELL, DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHAT, WHEN, WHERE THE NEAREST DATA CENTER IS ALREADY THAT EXISTS.

I BELIEVE THAT THERE'S ONE BEING BUILT UP IN SARASOTA, AND I KNOW THAT THERE IS DISCUSSIONS GOING ON IN POLK COUNTY.

SO THE CENTRAL FLORIDA AREA IS BEING TARGETED ESPECIALLY AREAS WITH HIGH DEMAND FOR JOBS.

KIND OF LIKE THE CITY OF PALM BAY IS DOING, WE'RE GOING OUT AND TRYING TO ASK FOR JOBS AND INDUSTRY TO COME TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

SO I SUSPECT WE'RE PRETTY HIGH UP ON THE LIST.

BECAUSE WHAT I'M WONDERING IS IF BETWEEN NOW AND YOUR NEXT MEETING THAT SOME OF YOU OR ONE OF YOU COULD GO TO AN EXISTING DATA CENTER TO LISTEN TO IT, TO SMELL IT, TO SEE HOW IT FUNCTIONS SO THAT YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE GETTING INTO. BECAUSE WHEN THEY FIRST CAME OUT, I, I RECALL SEEING PEOPLE INTERVIEWED THAT LIVE BY HIM AND THEY SAID, NOT ONLY IS THE NOISE ATROCIOUS, BUT THE SMELL IS AWFUL.

AND THEN ONCE WE BREAK INTO THE AQUIFER, THEN WE'RE DONE.

I MEAN, IF WE DON'T HAVE WATER, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO CARE.

SO ANYWAYS, THAT'S ALL EXCELLENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

CAN I MAKE A COMMENT? YES, SIR. PART OF MY REGULAR JOB IS I'VE BEEN TO SOME DATA CENTERS.

WE DO RECOMMENDATIONS FOR SOME AS FAR AS INDOOR AIR QUALITY IS CONCERNED.

AND I WILL TELL YOU JUST THIS IS JUST AN OPINION, AN OBSERVATION.

THEY'RE NOT PRETTY. THEY ARE NOISY. AND I'VE TAKEN AIR QUALITY MEASUREMENTS IN SOME.

AND THEY'RE NOT EXACTLY HEALTHY. SO THERE ARE SOME CHALLENGES TO THESE TYPES OF FACILITIES.

BUT WITH THAT SAID, I SEE A LOT OF ASPECTS HERE THAT ATTEMPT TO BE WRITING A STANDARD AROUND THEM,

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DAY TWO CAN BE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. AND I'VE SEEN A LOT OF BUILDINGS WHERE THEY WERE BUILT TO A CERTAIN CODE TO A CERTAIN STANDARD, BUT NOW NO LONGER OPERATE TO THAT CODE OR THAT STANDARD THAT CHANGES THINGS DRAMATICALLY.

AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THESE BUILDINGS WILL NOT EXPAND IN THEIR TIME, BECAUSE THEY WILL BECAUSE THE DEMAND IS GOING TO INCREASE.

SO I THINK THESE ARE ALL THINGS WE HAVE TO CONSIDER.

MAYBE THERE'S VERY BIG PICTURE KIND OF ASPECTS OF THINGS, BUT CERTAINLY AT THE VERY IN OUR MORE FOCUSED PURVIEW, I'D LIKE TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS BEHIND SOME OF THE REASONING BEHIND ASPECTS OF THESE OF THIS STANDARD.

EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. I DO AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT.

I KNOW THAT THIS KIND OF WAS BROUGHT UP ON SHORT NOTICE. I THINK IT WAS PRESENTED TO THE BOARD LESS THAN A WEEK AGO FOR TIME TO REVIEW IT.

YEAH, IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN LIKE THURSDAY WAS WHEN IT GOT SENT OUT TO THE BOARD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO I FULLY UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO KIND OF LOOK AT THIS A BIT MORE.

WE HAD 3 OR 4 DAYS TO TRY TO DO OUR HOMEWORK ON IT.

SO THIS IS KIND OF JUST AN INITIAL START TO THE DISCUSSION.

I APPRECIATE THE AUDIENCE COMING OUT AND BEING PART OF IT TONIGHT.

YOUR VOICES DO MATTER, ESPECIALLY IN THIS ROOM.

WE ARE GOING TO TAKE EVERYTHING YOU SAY INTO CONSIDERATION AND TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, THAT WE DO WHAT'S BEST FOR THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY AND, AND WHAT WE CAN DO PRESENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL IN THAT MANNER.

DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? YES, SIR. WE HAVE ONE MORE PUBLIC COMMENT.

YOU MIGHT HAVE TO HOLD THE BUTTON A LITTLE BIT AND THEN IT'LL START TO MOVE. THERE YOU GO.

I'D LIKE TO SHOW MY APPRECIATION TO THE COUNCIL.

THIS IS MORE THAN I EXPECTED AS FAR AS SOME OF THE LESSONS LEARNED FROM OTHER DATA CENTERS.

AND I CAME OUT OF THE MIDWEST OKLAHOMA, MISSOURI TO COME TO PALM BAY.

AND THE, I DON'T KNOW WHO YOU'RE EMPLOYING, SIR.

I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT. COULD YOU JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND WHERE YOU LIVE? FOR THE RECORD, RICHARD DECKER RIGHT HERE OFF OF MARIKANA IN PALM BAY, JUST A MILE DOWN THE ROAD. BUT FROM MY BACKGROUND, THE ACOUSTIC SOUNDS. WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A DB DELTA FROM DAY TO NIGHT OF FIVE DECIBELS.

AND, BUT YET YOU'RE RUNNING HIGHER ON THE LOW FREQUENCY.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE PULLED UP TO SOMEBODY PLAYING MUSIC OUT OF THEIR CAR AND THEIR TRUNK LID IS BOUNCING, BUT THAT'S LOW FREQUENCY, LOW FREQUENCY. YOU CAN FEEL A MILE OFF.

SO AND AGAIN, WITNESS THIS. YEAH. AND NOW THE 2500FT SETBACK AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW WHO YOU'RE REFERENCING OR WHO'S WORKING THIS FOR YOU, BUT THE FREQUENCIES ARE GOING TO DO YOU IN ON THAT SMALL OF A FOOTPRINT. I, YOU REMINDED ME THAT WHALES ARE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE ACROSS VAST DISTANCES IN THE OCEAN BECAUSE THEY COMMUNICATE BY LOW FREQUENCIES. OH YEAH.

AND THAT'S MY BACKGROUND. I WAS IN SUBMARINES FOR 22 YEARS.

I USED TO DO DB TESTING ON SUBMARINES FOR DETECTION AND EVERYTHING.

SO I KIND OF SEE SOME MORE RESEARCH NEEDED TO UNDERSTAND HOW THEY'RE GOING TO CONTAIN IT.

ONE AND THE PROPAGATION NEEDS TO BE, ESPECIALLY IN A SANDY LOAM AREA WATER TABLE.

IT'S GOING TO TRAVEL. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU SIR.

ALL RIGHT. BEFORE I CLOSE THIS I NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER TWO AND MOVE ON.

ONE LAST OPPORTUNITY FOR THE AUDIENCE TO SPEAK.

YES, MA'AM. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS OR LOCATION IN PALM BAY.

DEREK WILL HELP YOU OUT WITH THAT. WAS THAT. YEAH.

WE SHOULD LINE THEM UP AND GO IN ORDER. I JUST HAVE REALLY ONE QUESTION AGAIN.

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I'M SORRY. CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME, PLEASE? MY NAME. SORRY.

BONNIE MURPHY, 1025 DUGGAN CIRCLE, SOUTHEAST AND PALM BAY.

SO MY ONLY QUESTION IS, DO THE RESIDENTS GET ANY SAY IN? IF YOU FIND A DATA CENTER, WILL WE HAVE ANY SAY IN VOTING ON YAY OR NAY ON THAT? SO ANYTHING LIKE THAT WOULD DEFINITELY HAVE TO COME IN FRONT OF CITY COUNCIL AS PART OF THE MAN CAN'T SAY THE WORD PRELIMINARY PLANNING STAGES.

SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE SITE DEVELOPMENT AND WHATNOT. THAT WOULD ALL BE PRESENTED TO COUNCIL. SO THERE WOULD BE PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITIES IN CITY COUNCIL TO HAVE THE PUBLIC COME OUT AND SPEAK ON THAT. OKAY. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. ONE MORE OPPORTUNITY. ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE LIKE TO SPEAK? ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD? YES, SIR. SO I STARTED OFF AND I DIDN'T SAY MY PERSONAL OPINIONS.

I REALLY WANTED TO HEAR WHAT THE PUBLIC HAD TO SAY. BUT MY PERSONAL BACKGROUND GOES BACK TO ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION, INTERNATIONAL LAW. BUT I ALSO, AS I'VE SAID MANY, MANY TIMES BEFORE, WANT TO THINK ABOUT IT FROM THE PRACTICAL ASPECT.

SO LOOKING AT BOTH SIDES OF THE PICTURE AND HAVE TO DO THIS IN MY, MY DAY TO DAY JOB.

SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS. STATED TODAY ALTHOUGH I DON'T LIVE IN SOUTHWEST PALM BAY, I DO LOVE NATURE AND BEING OUT IN NATURE AND I, THAT'S WHAT I LIKE BEING IN PALM BAY AND BEING IN THIS AREA.

BUT I ALSO WANTED TO TAKE NOTE THAT THERE WAS AN INTERESTING ARTICLE TODAY DISCUSSING AI AND THE IMPACT IT HAS.

SO WE'VE DEALT WITH THIS AS HUMANITY BEFORE WITH OTHER ISSUES, WHETHER IT'S FROM NUCLEAR AND TO OTHER THINGS.

AND SO WE'LL HAVE TO DEAL WITH YET ANOTHER ADVENTURE. AND WE HAVE OTHER CHALLENGES AND OTHER INTERESTS AND OTHER COMPETITORS ON THE WORLD STAGE. AND I'M SURE WE'LL BE WE'LL DO JUST FINE HERE AS WELL. GOD WILLING. THANK YOU.

EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. WITH THAT, WE WILL CONCLUDE NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER TWO AND MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER THREE, WHICH, IF I AM READING MY AGENDA CORRECTLY AFTER THE REVISIONS, WOULD BE THE REMEMBRANCE GARDEN AND THE FACT FINDING COMMITTEE.

I KNOW MR. TODOROV HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS A BIT, SO I WILL OPEN UP THE FLOOR FOR HIM.

OH MY. YOU PUT ME ON THE SPOT THERE. IF NOT, I HAVE SOME THINGS I CAN TALK ABOUT.

PLEASE DO. TODAY I AM NOT AS FULLY PREPARED AS I SHOULD BE, BUT I DO KNOW THAT I RECEIVED A WHAT WE DISCUSSED BEFORE, AND I WAS BRIEFED, SO PLEASE, I'LL LEAVE THE THE MANTLE TO YOU, MR. CHAIR. EXCELLENT. SO I'VE GONE THROUGH THIS AD NAUSEAM.

THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON THE REMEMBRANCE GARDENS. SO I DON'T WANT TO BEAT A DEAD HORSE.

BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR OVER A YEAR. SO JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME QUICK UPDATES ON WHERE WE STAND.

THEY'RE THE LOWE'S GRANT THAT WAS OUTSTANDING THAT WE WERE HOPING TO BE ABLE TO RECEIVE FOR THE CITY.

IT APPEARS THAT THAT HAS COME AND GONE. SO LOWE'S DID NOT COMMUNICATE THAT DIRECTLY TO US.

I DID CHECK THEIR WEBSITE KIND OF ON A WHIM AND THEY HAVE A LIST OF PROJECTS THAT THEY ARE, ARE PROVIDING GRANT FUNDING FOR AND WE WERE NOT ON IT.

SO I AM ASSUMING THAT THAT MEANS THAT WE ARE NOT GETTING THE MONEY IF THEY ARE NOT TALKING TO US.

SO THAT WAS THE FIRST UPDATE. THE SECOND ONE, THE FLORIDA WILDFLOWER FOUNDATION.

THEY ARE BEING PATIENT WITH US. BUT THEY DO WANT TO SEE MOVEMENT ON THAT.

SO THAT'S $3,000 THAT IS IN GRANT FUNDING THAT THEY WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE TO SEE TAKE PLACE AND SEE SOME KIND OF MOVEMENT ON THERE.

I WAS ACTUALLY REACHED OUT TO LAST WEDNESDAY FOR A STATUS UPDATE ON THAT.

SO HOPEFULLY WE ARE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AT LEAST SOME OF THIS PROJECT SO WE CAN UTILIZE THAT VIVA FLORIDA FUNDING AND NOT LOSE $3,000 TOWARDS THIS PROJECT THAT COULD BE GOING TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY. IN THE LAST THING THAT I WANTED TO BRING UP IS I KNOW SHE'S WATCHING TONIGHT, SO I MIGHT GET A SURPRISE OR EXCITED TEXT MESSAGE ABOUT IT.

MISS JANE HIGGINS, FORMER BOARD MEMBER HERE, IS CONTINUING TO WORK ON THIS.

AFTER OUR LAST DISCUSSION, WE TALKED ABOUT THE NEED FOR THE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENTS IN PLACE.

THE CITY IS A STICKLER ABOUT THEIR MAINTENANCE AGREEMENTS.

SO MISS HIGGINS DID TAKE HER TIME TO DRAFT UP A SAMPLE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT THAT HAS BEEN SENT TO ME.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN I WILL TRY TO PASS THAT ALONG TO JESS SO SHE CAN GET OUT TO THE REST OF THE BOARD.

WE CAN REVIEW IT AND SEE IF THERE'S, IF THAT IS WHAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH.

AND THEN ONCE WE DO KIND OF HAVE THOSE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENTS IN PLACE, I THINK WE MIGHT HAVE SOME MORE FLEXIBILITY IN TALKING WITH PEOPLE ABOUT MOVING FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT. SO THOSE ARE THE THREE MAJOR UPDATES THAT I HAVE ON THE REMEMBRANCE GARDEN AT THIS TIME.

DOES THAT MEAN THAT WITH WHAT YOU'VE SAID THUS FAR, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD, POSSIBLY WITH PRESENTING IT TO CITY COUNCIL IN THE NEXT UPCOMING

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I THINK THE BIGGEST STICKLER IS GETTING THOSE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENTS SIGNED AND IN PLACE.

ONCE WE HAVE THE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENTS IN PLACE, I THINK FROM MY DISCUSSIONS WITH FACILITIES AND PUBLIC WORKS AND EVERYBODY ELSE, THE BIG THING IS HAVING THOSE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENTS IN PLACE. SO ONCE WE GET THAT, I THINK THAT'S GOING TO ALLOW US TO THEN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DISCUSSION ON HOW WE WANT TO APPROACH POTENTIALLY A PHASED PLAN OR LOOKING FOR MORE FUNDING SOURCES.

HOWEVER, I THINK TO UTILIZE THE $3,000 AND GET THAT VIVA FLORIDA GRANT, WE ARE GOING TO NEED TO SPLIT THIS PROJECT INTO PIECES BECAUSE VIVA FLORIDA, WHEN WE PRESENTED THE PROJECT AS A WHOLE, SAID, THAT'S ENTIRELY TOO BIG FOR WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING FOR.

AND SO THAT'S KIND OF WHY THEY ASKED US TO SCALE IT BACK INTO A PHASED APPROACH ON THERE.

OKAY, SO THE NEXT SCHEDULED CITY COUNCIL MEETING, I WAS THINKING THE MAINTENANCE PLAN COULD BE WOULD PROBABLY BE APPROVED OR DENIED WITHIN 30 DAYS. SO THEN THE NEXT SCHEDULED COUNCIL MEETING WOULD BE IN THAT FOLLOWING OCTOBER.

THEN WE COULD THEN PRESENT THAT PLAN. OR IS THAT NOT FEASIBLE? WE WOULD HAVE TO WORK WITH OUR PARTNERS. SO IT REALLY IS GOING TO BE LARGELY IN WHAT I CAN DO IS GET THAT MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT TO THE CITY, MAKE SURE THAT IT IS ACCEPTABLE FOR THE CITY'S PURPOSES, THAT IF WE WERE TO HAVE PARTNERS SIGN THAT THAT IT CAN BE HELD TO THE STANDARD THAT THE CITY HOLDS. AND THEN FROM THERE, ONCE WE HAVE THE CITY'S APPROVAL ON THAT, WE WOULD HAVE TO REACH OUT TO THE PARTNERS WHO ARE GOING TO HELP US PUT IT TOGETHER AND VOLUNTEER AND HAVE THE FUNDING AND WHATNOT. SO I WANT TO SET A TIMELINE FOR THAT.

SO WE'RE NOT SPINNING OUR WHEELS, BUT I THINK THE SOONEST THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, JUST SO WE CAN AGAIN, DISCUSS IT WOULD BE THE NEXT SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD.

AND THEN ONCE WE DO THAT AND HAVE THOSE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENTS IN PLACE, THEN WE MIGHT POTENTIALLY BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD. PART OF THE TIMELINE THAT I WAS TOLD DURING ONE OF MY MEETINGS WITH FACILITIES IS THAT THEY ARE WORKING ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THAT AREA WHERE WE ARE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY DOING PHASE ONE.

AND SO THE TIMELINE THAT I WAS TENTATIVELY GIVEN WOULD BE AFTER DECEMBER ANYWAYS.

SO WE KIND OF HAVE TO KEEP THAT IN MIND TOO, THAT WE HAVE TO WORK WITHIN FACILITIES TIME FRAME.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE MOVING FORWARD AND HAVE GUIDELINES AND TIMEFRAMES SET UP.

BUT I THINK RIGHT NOW WE DON'T WANT TO RUSH IT BECAUSE WE CAN'T RUSH IT.

UNFORTUNATELY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET ANYBODY'S APPROVAL IF WE TRY TO RUSH IT. UNDERSTOOD. NOTHING FURTHER, MR. CHAIR. YES, SIR. I JUST WANT TO ALSO REMIND YOU FROM THAT MEETING THAT THERE WAS A 24 FOOT BY 24 FOOT AREA THAT HE WANTED YOU GUYS TO CONSIDER STAYING INSIDE OF.

AS TO FOR SECURITY REASONS, NOT BLOCK ANY OF THE WINDOWS.

AND HE ALSO SUGGESTED MAKING SURE THAT EVERYTHING THAT'S USED THERE IS SECURED TO THE GROUND AND CAN'T BE USED AS A PROJECTILE TO BREAK OUT ANY OF THE WINDOWS, STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO I JUST WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, SINCE WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT IT IN A WHILE, JUST TO MAKE SURE WE BRING THAT UP.

THANK YOU SIR. DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON IT? I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS AT LENGTH, SO WE MIGHT BE ALL DISCUSSED OUT.

WHERE ARE WE WITH DONATIONS. WE HAVE ALL THE INITIAL FUNDING IN PLACE.

I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT MY SHEET, BUT BASICALLY WE WERE WHEN I INITIALLY MADE THE PRESENTATION TO CITY COUNCIL, WE WERE ABOUT 4500 DOLLARS SHORT. AND THE VIVA FLORIDA GRANT GIVES US 3000 OF THAT 4500.

SO THEORETICALLY, IF WE WERE TO WANT TO TRY TO TACKLE THE ENTIRE PROJECT, I STILL THINK WE WOULD WANT TO PHASE IT JUST TO MAKE SURE OUR GRANT PARTNER IS THE FLORIDA WILDFLOWER FOUNDATION IS HAPPY WITH THEIR INITIAL SECTION THAT THEY ARE PROVIDING FUNDING FOR.

AND THEN AFTER THAT IS IN PLACE AND WE HAVE FULFILLED THOSE REQUIREMENTS OF THAT GRANT, WE CAN LOOK AT USING THE REST.

SO I STILL THINK THAT THERE'S TIME TO FIND THE REMAINING 1500 TO DO THE ENTIRE PROJECT, IF THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO.

I HAVE NO DOUBT THERE IS. SUSAN'S FAMILY SAID THEY'D BE HAPPY TO JUST LET THEM KNOW.

AND THERE ARE TWO OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE VERY HEAVILY INVOLVED IN BREVARD COUNTY WHO SAID THEY WOULD MAKE DONATIONS.

MORE SPECIFICALLY FIRST, YOU KNOW, A BENCH OR SOMETHING.

BUT HER FAMILY, THEY JUST SAID, JUST LET US KNOW BECAUSE SHE HAD A BIG FAMILY.

THANK YOU. THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR. WE'LL BE SUCCESSFUL IF WE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO IT AT NO COST.

THAT'S THAT'S THE THING WE GOT TO WE GOT TO BRING IT ALL TO THE CITY WITH NO FUNDING OR WITH NO, NO COST TO THE CITY THEMSELVES. SO JUST TO CLARIFY, WE'VE CLOSED UP THAT FUNDING GAP FOR THE MOST PART.

WE CANNOT START SOLARIZATION THOUGH UNTIL WE GET THE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT AS WELL. SO WE'RE STILL JUST ON HOLD UNTIL DECEMBER.

IT SOUNDS BASICALLY YES. SO WE'RE NOT FROM MY CONVERSATIONS.

IT WAS A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, SO I MAY BE WRONG.

THE STAFF CAN CORRECT ME IF I WAS HEARING INCORRECTLY.

THEY ARE WORKING ON SOME MAINTENANCE ASPECTS IN THE AREA WHERE WE WANT TO DO WORK.

SO THEY SAID EVEN IF WE HAD EVERYTHING IN LINE AND ALL THE APPROVALS IN PLACE, THEY WOULD STILL WANT US TO WAIT UNTIL ALL THAT MAINTENANCE IS DONE ON THE PD BUILDING.

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UNDERSTOOD. I JUST KNOW WE WERE TRYING TO PUSH FOR NOVEMBER. YES, I AGREE.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS I BROUGHT UP IN THE MEETING. ALL RIGHT.

WITH NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, WE WILL MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER FOUR, WHICH IS EVENT SCHEDULE PLANNING.

PLEASE KEEP IN MIND IT'S 725. WE ONLY HAVE ABOUT 35 MINUTES LEFT IN THE MEETING.

BUT I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS IMPORTANT AND THAT WE NEED TO TRY TO DO IF WE CAN.

I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHAT WE WERE GOING TO EXACTLY DISCUSS HERE. I MADE A WHOLE LIST OF THE YEARLY SUSTAINABILITY EVENTS.

BUT I REALLY JUST WANTED TO SPECIFICALLY FOCUS ON TWO.

ONE IS THE ONE THAT'S COMING UP THIS WEEKEND, THE INTERNATIONAL COASTAL CLEANUP. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT BE SORT OF AN ANNUAL THING THAT THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD SORT OF SPEARHEADS. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE POTENTIALLY PUBLIC WORKS, PARKS AND RECREATION GET MORE INVOLVED NEXT YEAR AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW THIS OPPORTUNITY. AND THAT'S ALWAYS SEPTEMBER, THE THIRD, SATURDAY IN SEPTEMBER.

SO IF WE COULD KIND OF JUST KEEP THAT IN OUR MINDS AND THEN I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US BRING BACK MAYBE THE SUSTAINABILITY FAIR OR SOME SORT OF EARTH DAY EVENT IN APRIL OF NEXT YEAR IF WE CAN. THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR THAT.

YEP. THAT'S PERFECT. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE HAD THIS ON THE MEETING FOR. BECAUSE YOU AND I WE TALKED ABOUT IT AT THE LAST BOARD MEETING OF WHAT ALL WE WERE GOING TO DO.

WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO ONLY DISCUSS THE INTERNATIONAL COASTAL CLEANUP DAY IN THE PUBLIC IN THE SUNSHINE.

SO THAT WAS PART OF THE WHY WE WANTED TO HAVE THIS ON THERE.

SO SEPTEMBER 19TH, YOU AND I ARE GOING TO BE HOSTING TWO SITES.

AS YOU SAID, WE HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN GIVEN FROM THE BREVARD COUNTY STEARNS POINT PARK AND CASTAWAY POINT PARK.

DID YOU HAD A, HAVE A PREFERENCE ON WHICH ONE YOU WANTED TO DO? I WILL DO CASTAWAY POINT, PLEASE. OKAY. EXCELLENT.

SO THAT LEAVES ME WITH STEARNS POINT. AND THERE WAS SOME STUFF ON THERE ON OUR CHECKLIST.

WE BOTH ATTENDED THE SITE CAPTAIN MEETING AT BREVARD COUNTY.

WELL, YES, KEEP BREVARD BEAUTIFUL. THERE WE GO. THAT'S THE WORD I WAS LOOKING FOR. AND THEY GAVE US A CHECKLIST OF EVERYTHING THAT WAS ON THERE.

DID YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO REVIEW IT TO SEE IF YOU HAD ANYTHING THAT YOU WERE MISSING FOR YOUR SITE THAT SOMEBODY AT THE BOARD MIGHT BE ABLE TO ASSIST WITH PROVIDING? I BELIEVE THAT I'M GOOD TO GO. OKAY. I ALSO AM GOOD TO GO.

I, I SAW THAT I NEEDED A FIVE GALLON WATER JUG AND WENT TO WALMART AND THEY WERE 29 BUCKS.

AND I WAS LIKE, ALL RIGHT, WHATEVER, I'LL BUY A FIVE GALLON WATER JUG. SO THEY ASKED FOR TABLES, CHAIRS TENT, WATER JUG, FIRST AID KIT. AND I THINK I CAN COBBLE ALL THAT TOGETHER FOR MY SITE.

SO IT'S GOOD TO HEAR THAT YOU CAN COBBLE IT TOGETHER FOR YOUR SITE.

FOR EVENT PLANNING. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS IN UPCOMING MEETINGS.

AS YOU CAN SEE MY SCRIBBLES ON THE BACK OF MY NOTE CARD.

THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF STUFF COMING UP BETWEEN EVEN NOW AND OUR NEXT BOARD MEETING.

SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF THE BOARD IS ABLE TO DO.

I TALKED ABOUT IT LAST MEETING THE LAGOON FAMILY FUN DAY.

I THINK PUBLIC WORKS IS CONSIDERING GOING TO THAT AT GOOD PARK.

IF THERE IS THE CAPABILITY OF THE BOARD MEMBER GOING THERE AND BEING A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE PALM BAY SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD I WILL GLADLY DONATE MY TENT AND MY TABLE AND CHAIRS. THAT WAY THE BOARD HAS A PRESENCE.

BUT I AM VOLUNTEERING DIRECTLY WITH BREVARD INDIAN RIVER LAGOON COALITION AND WILL PROBABLY BE RUNNING AROUND LIKE A CHICKEN WITH MY HEAD CUT OFF, HELPING THEM SO I WON'T BE ABLE TO DO DOUBLE DUTY REPRESENTING OUR SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD.

BUT TO MISS JOHNSON'S POSITION, WE DON'T HAVE A SUSTAINABILITY FAIR.

BUT WE ARE HAVING SOMETHING THAT IS VERY CLOSE TO THAT IN GOOD PARK IN CITY GROUNDS.

SO I THINK IT WOULD BEHOOVE THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD TO HAVE A PRESENCE THERE.

SO PEOPLE LEARN ABOUT US AND KNOW THAT WE'RE THERE. AND HOPEFULLY GET SOME MORE BACKING BEHIND THERE.

IS THERE ANYBODY THAT WOULD BE IT IS WHAT IS IT? OCTOBER 4TH, SUNDAY AT 9 A.M. AT GOOD PARK.

I CAN BE THERE. I WAS GOING TO TRY TO ATTEND WITH THE FAMILY, SO I'LL I'LL VOLUNTEER FOR THE TABLE.

DO WE HAVE SHIRTS AS THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD OR ANY SORT OF, LIKE, THING TO BE LIKE, OH, SHE'S WITH THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD, NOT JUST SOME RANDOM LADY STANDING HERE. SO BEFORE YOU JOINED THE BOARD, WE WENT DOWN THIS ROAD PRETTY HEAVILY FOR A COUPLE OF MEETINGS. WE DO NOT HAVE A BUDGET. WE DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING EXCITING.

SO BASICALLY DEREK, IF HE IS ABLE TO OR IF I AM ABLE TO, I MEAN, I'LL BE THERE SO I CAN BRING MINE IF NEEDED.

THE KIND OF DEFAULT TABLING THING THAT I'VE BEEN DOING FOR THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD IS I HAVE A A FLIER ON THERE WITH QR CODES POINTING TO OUR

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AND THEN I HAVE A MOSQUITO BUCKET AND I TALK ABOUT HOW MOSQUITO BUCKETS WORK AND HOW THEY'RE AN EFFICIENT WAY.

AND IT'S A GOOD FIVE MINUTE PITCH TO ROLL THROUGH PEOPLE AND TALK ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY AND GET PEOPLE INTERESTED IN IT AND BRING PEOPLE TO THE TABLE.

SO I CREATED TWO MOSQUITO BUCKETS, ONE FOR MY PERSONAL USAGE THAT I CAN CARRY AROUND WHENEVER I'M DOING TABLING EVENTS FOR THE BOARD.

AND I ALSO CREATED ONE AND HANDED IT OFF TO PUBLIC WORKS.

SO IF I'M NOT AVAILABLE AND PUBLIC WORKS IS SOMEWHERE THEY CAN BRING IT AS WELL.

BUT SINCE I WILL BE THERE, I CAN BRING MINE TO THAT WAY IF THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO BE PRESENT, YOU'LL STILL HAVE THE MOSQUITO BUCKET TO GO ABOUT.

SOUNDS GOOD. I ACTUALLY USED TO WORK IN MOSQUITO LAB, SO.

SOUNDS EXCELLENT. WE HAVE A TABLE, THOUGH, CORRECT? WHAT WAS THAT? DO WE HAVE TABLES, THOUGH? I MEAN, SO MY WIFE THINKS I'M CRAZY, BUT I BOUGHT THREE WEEKS AGO.

I BOUGHT A POP UP TENT ON AMAZON BECAUSE IT WENT ON SALE.

AND SHE WAS LIKE, WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU GOING TO USE A POP UP TENT FOR? AND I SAID, I DON'T KNOW, BUT I GUARANTEE YOU I'LL FIND A USE FOR IT.

AND WITHIN A WEEK I NEEDED IT FOR THE INTERNATIONAL COASTAL CLEANUP.

AND I ALSO NEED IT FOR OCTOBER'S FAMILY FUN LAGOON DAY.

SO I HAVE A FOLDING TABLE. I HAVE FOLDING CHAIRS.

I HAVE A POP UP TENT. SO WE ARE SELF-SUFFICIENT VIA DOUG, I GUESS.

WELL, IF YOU NEED ANOTHER TABLE, LET ME KNOW. I'VE GOT ONE. OKAY. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. THE OTHER ONE THAT I WANTED TO KIND OF PUT ON THE MAP, AND IT'S PROBABLY TOO SOON AND TOO HARD FOR US TO PULL OFF WOULD BE LAGOON FEST, WHICH IS OCTOBER 17TH AT 9 A.M.

AT FRONT STREET PARK. YOU HEARD OUR REPRESENTATIVE OF LAGOON LOYAL.

TALK ABOUT IT TONIGHT. IT IS IN MELBOURNE SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY WITHIN OUR FOOTPRINT.

BUT AGAIN I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IF THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD IS ABLE TO HAVE A PRESENCE TO THAT WOULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO GET OUR NAME OUT THERE.

I KNOW LAGOON FEST IS HEAVILY TRAFFICKED AND HAS A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT GO TO IT.

AND JUST BEING ABLE TO BE PRESENT WOULD BE GREAT AGAIN.

I AM KIND OF CREATING PROBLEMS FOR OURSELVES.

BECAUSE I WOULD NORMALLY VOLUNTEER FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

BUT AS PART OF CONRADINA CHAPTER OF THE FLORIDA NATIVE PLANT SOCIETY, THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE A PRESENCE.

AND I SIGNED UP LIKE FOUR MONTHS AGO TO BE ON THERE VOLUNTEERING WITH THEM AT LAGOON FEST.

SO AGAIN, I AM NOT ABLE TO DO DOUBLE DUTY. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS, I BELIEVE BEFORE THE NEXT SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD MEETING.

YES. THAT WOULD BE THE 28TH. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IF WE DO WANT TO HAVE OUR PRESENCE THERE AGAIN, I WILL BE THERE. I CAN BRING ALL OF MY STUFF TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A POP UP TENT AND ALL THIS STUFF AS A BOARD TO HAVE A PRESENCE THERE.

BUT IF WE HAVE ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO VOLUNTEER AND AGAIN, TABLE BE A PRESENCE FOR THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD AND JUST KIND OF GET OUR NAME OUT THERE AND GET OUR FACES OUT THERE. I THINK THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER GREAT OPPORTUNITY THAT I UNFORTUNATELY CAN'T FILL.

I WOULD IF I COULD SPLIT MYSELF IN TWO. HOW MANY EVENTS DO WE HAVE? WHAT WAS THAT? GO AHEAD. I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK, HOW MANY EVENTS DO WE HAVE PER MONTH? I'M JUST. YOU MENTIONED ONE A DATE BEFORE THAT.

WAS IT THE 19TH? HOW MANY EVENTS WERE YOU HAVING PER MONTH? SO THERE'S SEPTEMBER. SEPTEMBER 19TH IS THE INTERNATIONAL COASTAL CLEANUP.

SO THAT'S THE ONE THAT WE'VE GOT THE TWO SITES THAT WE ARE GOING TO CAPTAIN.

AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR VOLUNTEERS FOR THOSE. BUT THE BOARD IS OBVIOUSLY GOING TO HAVE A PRESENCE AS SITE CAPTAINS FOR THERE.

SO IF ANYBODY ON THE BOARD WOULD OBVIOUSLY LIKE TO VOLUNTEER AND HELP WITH THE CLEANUPS.

THAT'S SEPTEMBER 19TH AT 9 A.M. AT CASTAWAY POINT IN STEARNS POINT PARK.

THE LAGOON FAMILY FUN DAY IS OCTOBER 4TH. SO A COUPLE OF WEEKS AFTER THAT, 9 A.M.

AT GOOD PARK. AND THEN LAGOON FEST IS 1017 AT 9 A.M.

AT FRONT STREET PARK IN MELBOURNE. AND THOSE WOULD BE THE KIND OF THREE ONES THAT I'M TARGETING.

THERE'S OTHER EVENTS THAT I'LL TALK ABOUT HERE WHEN WE GET TO THE UPCOMING MEETINGS AND EVENTS, BUT THOSE AREN'T NECESSARILY ONES THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A TABLE AT. I THINK IT WOULD BE BEHOOVE THE BOARD TO HAVE A PRESENCE THERE.

AND I MEAN, I'LL BE VOLUNTEERING FOR THEM. THAT'S HOW I KNOW ABOUT THEM IS BY SIGNING UP TO VOLUNTEER.

SO THOSE, THOSE WOULD BE THE THREE BIG ONES THAT I KIND OF WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A BIG PRESENCE FOR IS INTERNATIONAL COASTAL CLEANUP.

919 THE LAGOON FAMILY DAY. TEN FOUR AT GOOD PARK AND LAGOON FEST.

1017. THE OCTOBER 4TH ONE IS THAT AN ALL DAY EVENT? IT IS FROM 9 A.M. TO 3 P.M.. SO NOT NECESSARILY ALL DAY, BUT A GOOD CHUNK OF THE DAY FROM THE 17TH.

THE 17TH IS FROM 9 A.M.. I'M NOT SURE WHEN LAGOON FEST IS GOING.

I THINK IT'S TWO. I HAVE TO BAIL EARLY FROM THAT ONE FROM MY COMMITMENT BECAUSE I HAVE MASTER NATURALIST CLASS.

MY LAST DAY MASTER NATURALIST CLASS IS THE 17TH AS WELL, SO I HAVE TO HIT THE EJECT BUTTON AT NOON ON THAT ONE.

I JUST WANT TO CHIME IN AND SAY I AM NOT AVAILABLE ON OCTOBER 17TH.

OKAY, TAKE THE OCTOBER 17TH SLOT. YOU'LL TAKE THE OCTOBER 17TH.

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YES I CAN, I WILL KIND OF WRITE A POSITION PAPER BECAUSE I KNOW WE CAN'T TALK BACK AND FORTH.

SO I WILL KIND OF GIVE A RUNDOWN AND A GUIDELINE OF WHAT I DO FOR MY MOSQUITO BUCKET TABLING.

AND BASICALLY YOU JUST WANT TO BE THERE AND TALK ABOUT THE BOARD'S EXISTENCE.

AWESOME. OCTOBER 17TH, THAT'S GOING TO BE WHERE THAT IS AT FRONT STREET PARK IN MELBOURNE.

SO KIND OF ONE OFF RIGHT OFF OF 192. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. EXCELLENT. IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION OF UPCOMING EVENTS, WE CAN MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS.

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DOES ANYBODY HAVE A BOARD REPORT THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO GO OVER TONIGHT? YES I DO. YES, MA'AM. WHEN DOCTOR WILSON CAME IN HERE ASKING FOR PERMISSION TO PLANT MANGROVES AND ACTUALLY A TOTAL OF 692, I THINK PLANTS, 160 MANGROVES AND THE REST ARE OTHER STUFF THAT IS DONE. THE APPROVAL IS DONE AND THEY ARE READY TO GO.

IT COSTS NOTHING. THEY ARE TAKE. MRC IS TAKING TOTAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR IMPLEMENTATION, VOLUNTEERS, INSURANCE, ALL OF THAT STUFF AND MAINTENANCE.

SO ALL I NEEDED WAS OUR APPROVAL AND THAT'S DONE.

SO AWESOME. THAT IS EXCITING TO HEAR. KIND OF SPEAKING TO HAVING A BOARD PRESENCE THERE.

I VOLUNTEER WITH MRC, SO I WILL CERTAINLY BE THERE PLANTING MANGROVES BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S SUPER AWESOME TO GO WADING IN LAGOON AND PLANTING MANGROVES AND HELPING CLEAN IT UP. WHENEVER THAT DATE DOES GET SET, LET'S ALL TRY TO KEEP AN EYE ON THERE.

THAT'S SOMETHING WE AS A BOARD, WE'RE ALL INVOLVED IN.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AS MANY BOARD MEMBERS THERE VOLUNTEERING WITH MRC AND BEING A PART OF THAT PROJECT AS POSSIBLE WHENEVER THAT DATE DOES GET SET.

DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR REPORT OR DO YOU HAVE MORE? THAT'S IT.

ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER BOARD REPORTS TONIGHT? I WILL GO. OKAY. I DON'T WANT TO TALK TOO MUCH BECAUSE WE ALREADY KIND OF TALKED ABOUT IT, BUT I JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT WE DO HAVE THE INTERNATIONAL COASTAL CLEANUP HAPPENING THIS SATURDAY FROM 8 TO 12. YOU CAN REGISTER ONLINE.

WE DID HAVE THE CITY SEND OUT AN EMAIL. IT'S BEEN POSTED ON FACEBOOK. IT'S ON THE CITY WEBSITE, IT'S ON OUR SUSTAINABILITY CALENDAR. SO IT'S OUT THERE. IF YOU CAN ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO GET SIGNED UP AND WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE YOU GUYS OUT THERE THIS WEEKEND. A LITTLE BIT OF AN IDEA OF WHAT TO EXPECT FOR ANYBODY WHO'S LIKE, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO BE DOING? BASICALLY WHAT IT IS, IS YOU'RE GOING TO SIGN IN AND WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU THE BUCKETS. WE HAVE LATEX GLOVES. IF YOU WANT STRONGER GLOVES, YOU DEFINITELY MIGHT WANT TO BRING SOME MORE THICK GLOVES AND LITTLE GRABBERS. AND THEN WE'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE SHEET THAT HAS DATA COLLECTION.

SO HOW MANY CIGARETTE BUTTS DID YOU FIND? HOW MANY PLASTIC BAGS DID YOU FIND? THINGS LIKE THAT. SO WE'RE COLLECTING DATA. WE'RE NOT JUST GOING OUT THERE TO PICK UP THE TRASH. WE'RE ACTUALLY GETTING SOME INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT WE'RE FINDING IN OUR WATERWAYS. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR THAT.

WHILE WE WERE AT THE KEEP BREVARD BEAUTIFUL MEETING, I DID HAVE SOMEONE APPROACHED ME FROM TOBACCO FREE FLORIDA.

SHE HAD OFFERED TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY WITH SIGNAGES IN OUR PARKS.

SO I JUST WANTED TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS AN OPPORTUNITY.

IF YOU WANT, I COULD POTENTIALLY REACH OUT TO HER OR JUST GET HER IN CONTACT WITH PUBLIC WORKS IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE WANTED TO DO.

DO WE HAVE CONSENSUS FOR BEYONCE TO KIND OF PASS THAT INFORMATION ALONG TO PUBLIC WORKS, I IMAGINE SO.

YEP. EXCELLENT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I WILL GET IT.

I WILL GET THAT INFORMATION SENT OVER. THANK YOU. EXCELLENT. ANY OTHER BOARD REPORTS TONIGHT? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE. I ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO TALK ABOUT, BECAUSE WHAT I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT IS GOING TO BE THE UPCOMING MEETINGS AND EVENTS. SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO OTHER BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS UPCOMING MEETINGS AND EVENTS.

I'M GOING TO TRY TO DO THIS QUICKLY BECAUSE I HAVE LIKE TEN THINGS THAT ARE COMING UP BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT BOARD MEETING.

AND WE ARE GETTING SHORT ON TIME. FIRST OFF, VERY FIRST THING IS TOMORROW EVENING AT 5 P.M.

AT THE LAGOON HOUSE WHERE MRC IS LOCATED. BREVARD INDIAN RIVER LAGOON COALITION IS HOSTING A VOLUNTEER APPRECIATION.

THEY'RE HOSTING THREE OF THESE EVENTS. THERE'S ONE UP IN TITUSVILLE, THERE'S ONE IN EAU GALLIE, AND THEN THERE'S ONE IN HERE AT LAGOON HOUSE.

IF ANYBODY IS INTERESTED IN HELPING VOLUNTEER WITH THE BREVARD INDIAN RIVER LAGOON COALITION, THIS IS A FANTASTIC STARTING POINT TO DO SO. EVEN THOUGH IT'S CALLED VOLUNTEER APPRECIATION, THEY APPRECIATE ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO VOLUNTEER.

SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE AN EXISTING VOLUNTEER TO DO SO.

THERE ARE SIGN UPS IF YOU GO TO BREVARD INDIAN RIVER LAGOONS WEBSITE OR I BELIEVE I'VE GOT IT ON THE SUSTAINABILITY CALENDAR CALENDAR.

THERE ARE IS A LINK FOR YOU TO SIGN UP FOR THE MRC EVENT HERE IN PALM BAY.

AND THAT WILL GIVE YOU THE BACKGROUND AND THE KNOWLEDGE AND THE CONFIDENCE TO GO OUT AND SPEAK ABOUT LAGOON HELP WITH THE BREVARD INDIAN RIVER LAGOON COALITION'S MISSION TO

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SECOND ONE IS WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT IT, INTERNATIONAL COASTAL CLEANUP DAY ON 919 8 A.M.

CASTAWAY POINT, STEARNS POINT, PARK POINT, IF Y'ALL WANT TO COME HAVE FUN WITH US, HELP US CLEAN THE SHORELINES UP.

SIGN UP FOR THOSE LOCATIONS IF ANYBODY HAPPENS TO BE WATCHING FROM NOT INSIDE OF PALM BAY.

CONGRATULATIONS. I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU'RE PAYING ATTENTION TO THE PALM BAY SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD, BUT WE APPRECIATE IT. THERE ARE INTERNATIONAL COASTAL CLEANUP SITES ALL UP AND DOWN BREVARD COUNTY. SO IF YOU HAPPEN TO NOT BE ABLE TO MAKE ONE OF OUR TWO LOVELY SITES WITH OUR TWO BOARD MEMBERS I HIGHLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO FIND A SITE THAT IS NEARBY YOU YOU CAN GO TO THE KEEPER OF OUR BEAUTIFUL WEBSITE AND THEY HAVE A FULL LIST OF SITES GOING FROM TITUSVILLE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO PALM BAY ON THERE.

ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO CHIME IN ON THAT AS WELL IS WHEN WE WERE AT THE KEEP BREVARD BEAUTIFUL, I KIND OF JOKINGLY SAID, I DON'T KNOW HOW FREQUENTLY PALM BAY HAS EVER BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS.

AND I BELIEVE THE LAST TIME, AND MAYBE, POSSIBLY THE ONLY TIME BREVARD WAS INVOLVED, WHEN IT WAS ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO.

SO OUR PALM BAY WAS INVOLVED IN IT WAS ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO.

SO IT'S GOOD TO SEE US REENGAGING WITH THAT LARGER COMMUNITY IN BREVARD COUNTY AND BEING AN ACTIVE PART OF THAT AS THE LARGEST CITY IN THEIR LAGOON FAMILY FUN DAY TEN FOR 9 A.M.

GOOD PARK. WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THAT ONE. THE FOLLOWING WEEK.

LITTLE GROWERS, THEY'RE FANTASTIC ORGANIZATION THAT SERVES THE LOWER INCOME COMMUNITIES OF PALM BAY AND MELBOURNE.

THEY HAVE A FOOD FOREST THAT THEY HAVE BEEN GROWING. THIS WILL BE THEIR FOURTH PLANTING DAY AT THE FOOD FOREST.

THAT'S GOING TO BE 1010 AT 8:30 A.M. MY WHITE LITTLE BOOTY WILL BE OUT THERE MOVING NATIVE PLANTS AROUND IN CIRCLES FOR THEM.

SO THEY, IF ANYBODY HAS ANY GUIDANCE OR ASSISTANCE FOR MOVING SOME NATIVE PLANTS, I COULD USE SOME EXTRA VOLUNTEERS AND SOME HANDS FOR THAT.

TWO DAYS AFTER THAT, THERE'S THE MR SHORELINE CLEANUP ON DAY QUESTION MARK, WHATEVER THE BANK HOLIDAY IS, I GET BANK HOLIDAYS OFF. THEY ALL RUN TOGETHER FOR ME.

BUT WHATEVER BANK HOLIDAY IT IS, COLUMBUS DAY.

THERE WE GO. COLUMBUS DAY. TEN, 12. I KNEW IT WOULD COME TO ME EVENTUALLY AT THE LAGOON HOUSE.

9 A.M. MRS IS GOING TO BE DOING ANOTHER SHORELINE CLEANUP EVENT.

DURING THAT TIME FRAME, WE TALKED ABOUT LAGOON FEST ON 1017.

FOLLOWING THAT, THE NEXT WEEK THERE'S THE LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT CONFERENCE.

I IMAGINE PUBLIC WORKS WILL BE THERE AGAIN THIS YEAR.

I'M HOPING TO VOLUNTEER WITH THAT. I'M GUESSING FROM THE, THE SQUINTY FACE THAT PUBLIC WORKS WON'T BE AT THIS YEAR'S.

UNFORTUNATELY, NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE IT OUT THIS YEAR. OKAY.

SO THE LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT CONFERENCE IS HOSTED BY MRC.

IT IS BEACHSIDE IN COCOA. I BELIEVE IT IS. SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A HAUL, BUT IT'S A TWO DAY EVENT THAT TALKS ABOUT LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT.

I AM VOLUNTEERING MY WAY HOPEFULLY INTO BEING ABLE TO BE AT THAT EVENT.

BECAUSE THERE IS AN UPFRONT EXPENSE TO IT. SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO KEEP ON THE MAP.

THE DAY AFTER THE IMPACT DEVELOPMENT LITTLE GROWERS IS HAVING THEIR BIANNUAL MAKE A GREEN NOISE ORGANIZATION EVENT, WHICH IS GOING TO BE 1024. YOU CAN GO TO THE LITTLE GROWERS WEBSITE TO FIND MORE INFORMATION FOR THAT AND SIGN UP.

AND I WOULD BE REMISS WITH MISS JANE HIGGINS WATCHING TONIGHT AND BEING THE FORMER LEADER OF THIS THE CONRADINA NATIVE PLANT TOUR IS GOING TO BE TAKING PLACE AGAIN THIS YEAR. IT'S, I WANT TO SAY THE 18TH YEAR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON.

AND IT IS GOING TO BE BEACHSIDE. SO IT'S NOT IN PALM BAY THIS YEAR, BUT IT'S STILL A PHENOMENAL EVENT.

YOU GET TO REALLY GO AROUND AND SEE A LOT OF NATIVE LANDSCAPES ON THERE.

THERE'S THINGS THAT SOME OF THE ORGANIZATIONS I'VE VOLUNTEERED WITH, SUCH AS SURFRIDER FOUNDATION HAVE PUT IN PLACE. YOU CAN SEE FANTASTIC USES OF NATIVE PLANTS FOR THAT. AND ONE OF THE OTHER REALLY COOL THINGS THAT THEY'RE DOING AND POTENTIALLY SOMETHING TO KEEP ON OUR RADAR.

BUT AGAIN, WE DO HAVE A BOARD MEETING BEFORE THEN. IS THEY ARE ALSO DOING A CONSERVATION FAIR AT ORLANDO PARK IN, IN THE ATLANTIC AS PART OF THE NATIVE PLANT TOUR.

IT'S THE FIRST TIME THAT THEY'VE DONE A CONSERVATION FAIR AS WELL.

SO THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS I KNOW SORREL, BREVARD, INDIAN RIVER LAGOON COALITION, SURFRIDER MRC, ALL THE NAMES WE ALL KNOW AND LOVE ARE ALL VOLUNTEERING FOR THAT.

I WILL ALSO BE VOLUNTEERING FOR THAT. I HAVE BEEN DEEMED SITE LEADER FOR ORLANDO PARK.

SO I WILL BE QUARTERBACKING EVERYTHING GOING ON AT ORLANDO PARK FOR THE NATIVE PLANT TOUR FOR CONRADINA CHAPTER.

SO IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT AGAIN, KEEP IT ON YOUR CALENDAR.

WE DO HAVE ANOTHER BOARD MEETING TO DISCUSS IF THE BOARD IS ABLE TO HAVE A PRESENCE THERE, I THINK THAT WOULD BE PHENOMENAL AND HELP US GET OUR NAME OUT. IT IS 118 AND THAT IS GOING TO BE GOING ON FROM 8 A.M.

TO 5 P.M., AND THE TOURS KIND OF COME AND GO.

SO YOU GO FROM SITE TO SITE AT YOUR OWN PACE.

BUT THE HAPPENINGS GOING ON AT ORLANDO PARK WILL BE GOING ON FROM, I BELIEVE 9 TO 5.

I HAVE TO BE THERE AN HOUR EARLY, WHICH IS WHY I WROTE EIGHT ON MY CALENDAR. SO 9 TO 5.

OKAY. DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER EVENTS? I IMAGINE I PROBABLY COVERED EVERYTHING IN THE BREVARD COUNTY IN PALM BAY AREA IN THAT RUNDOWN MISTER CHAIR,

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SORRY. NOTATION TO THE BOARD. YEP. THERE YOU GO.

SO SEPTEMBER 24TH, 6 P.M. TO SEVEN IN THIS VERY COUNCIL CHAMBERS WILL BE.

PUBLIC WORKS WILL BE HOSTING A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS MEETING OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

IT'S A TOTAL COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EVENT. YOU'LL LEARN HOW THE CITY PLANS PRIORITIZES FUNDS FUTURE CURRENT CONSTRUCTION DESIGNS.

WE'LL BE GOING OVER THE GRANT PROCESSES THAT WE, THAT WE HAVE WITH SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS.

THERE'S GOING TO BE A Q AND A TO ALLOW THE CITIZENS OR BUSINESSES, RESIDENTS, WHOMEVER WOULD LIKE TO ASK QUESTIONS AND BASICALLY LEARN, ASK, CONNECT JUST TO KIND OF FIGURE OUT HOW THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT OPERATES.

YOU GUYS ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO COME OUT, ASK QUESTIONS AND, AND ENGAGE.

THANK YOU. YES, IT WAS SITTING DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF ME, BUT BECAUSE IT WASN'T IN MY CHICKEN SCRATCH, I SOMEHOW WAS BLIND TO IT.

SO I APOLOGIZE FOR MISSING. NO, NOT AT ALL. NOT AT ALL.

ALL RIGHT. ARE THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSIONS ON EVENTS? SEEING NONE, WE WILL ADJOURN THIS MEETING AT 7:46 P.M..

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.