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[CALL TO ORDER]
I LIKE TO CALL THIS REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING 2022 DASH 35 TO ORDER.THE INVOCATION WILL BE PROVIDED BY CHRIS ADAMS. CHRIS, ARE YOU HERE? CHRIS.
CHRIS ADAMS. CHRIS ADAMS FROM CHRISTIAN LIFE CHURCH.
AND THE INVOCATION WILL BE PROVIDED BY PASTOR KEN DELGADO OF THE HOUSE CHURCH.
AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WILL BE LED BY DEPUTY MAYOR DONNY FELIX.
PLEASE RISE. I LOOK KIND OF LIKE CHRIS ADAMS, DON'T I? SO IN REPRESENTATION OF THEM, LET'S JOIN OUR HEARTS AND A MERRY CHRISTMAS TO EVERYBODY.
WE JUST THANK YOU FOR THE BLESSING OF YOUR PRESENCE.
THANK YOU FOR THE GIFT OF LIFE, FOR THE LIGHT THAT SHINES.
FOR THE STAR THAT STANDS AT THE TOP OF THE TREE, THE STAR OF DAVID THAT WISEMAN STILL SEEK.
AND WE GIVE IN DEMONSTRATION OF THE GIFT OF LOVE.
JESUS. WE THANK YOU FOR THOSE WHO REPRESENT US, THESE PEOPLE WHO LEAD THIS GREAT CITY.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR WISDOM THAT RESTS ON THEM TONIGHT.
AND IN ALL OF THEM, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR BLESSING.
WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR WISDOM, YOUR GRACE, AND FOR TONIGHT, IN JESUS NAME, AMEN.
AMEN. BELIEVE THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.
RAH, RAH, RAH, RAH, RAH, RAH, RAH.
AND AND HOW MOTIVATING AND PATRIOTIC IT IS.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT YOU JUST FIRED UP YOUR MAYOR.
[ANNOUNCEMENTS]
THANK YOU. ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? YES. TWO VACANCIES ON THE CITIZEN'S BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD REPRESENT A LARGE POSITION.ONE VACANCY ON THE YOUTH ADVISORY BOARD REPRESENTED LARGE STUDENT MEMBER POSITION.
ANYONE WISHING, WISHING TO SERVE ON THESE BOARDS CAN APPLY ONLINE AT PALM BAY FLORIDA DOT ORG OR CONTACT THE CITY CLERK OFFICE AT 321952 3414.
THANK YOU. WE ARE NOW ON AGENDA REVISIONS.
[AGENDA REVISIONS]
AND MS.. SHERMAN, ANY REVISIONS? YES, SIR, I HAVE THREE.THE FIRST IS ORDINANCE 2022, DASH 127.
THE SECOND IS CONSIDERATION OF A REDUCTION IN THE PURCHASE PRICE FOR BCRA OWNED PROPERTY.
LOCATED AT 1626 ORANGE BLOSSOM TRAIL HAS BEEN ADDED AS ITEM NUMBER FIVE UNDER NEW BUSINESS, AND THE LAST ONE IS REGARDING NEW BUSINESS. ITEM NUMBER THREE, WHICH IS CONSIDERATION OF A REQUEST TO RECONSIDER THE DENIAL OF ORDINANCE 2020 2-1 12 CASE Z DASH 4420 22.
THE APPLICANT HAS WITHDRAWN THE ITEM.
SO ITEM THREE HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN ON THE NEW BUSINESS? YES, SIR. THANK YOU, MA'AM.
CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDER RELATING TO THE DENIAL OF CASE Z 4420 22.
ACIS INVESTMENT GROUP LLC HAS BEEN ADDED AS ITEM NINE UNDER PUBLIC HEARINGS.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. DOES THAT CONCLUDE THE REVISIONS? YES, SIR. OKAY.
[PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS]
SO LET ME JUST LET ME JUST STEP DOWN AND GET CLOSE TO THE CROWD SO YOU CAN YOU GUYS CAN LOVE ON YOUR MAYOR FOR A BIT.[00:05:34]
A VERY SPECIAL DAY.OH, THANKS FOR ENCOURAGING ME.
SO I'D LIKE TO WELCOME UP THE FAMILY CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA TEAM.
THAT'S YOU TO. REALLY EXCITED ABOUT WHAT THIS TEAM HAS DONE.
THIS TEAM GIVES COUNTLESS OF HOURS THEY MEET.
AND THEY GIVE SO MUCH OF THEMSELVES SO THAT OTHERS MAY LIVE NOW.
YOUR MAYOR IS GOING TO HAVE A DIFFICULT TIME WITH THAT, BUT I'M GOING TO NAVIGATE THROUGH IT.
I MAY NEED MY MAGNIFYING GLASS.
SO NOTICE AND PROCLAMATION OF FAMILY CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA DAY DECEMBER 17TH, 2022.
WHEREAS THE HOUSE CHURCH WHERE YOUR LOVED, ACCEPTED AND CONNECTED THE CITY OF PALM BAY RECREATION DEPARTMENT, SEVERAL COMMUNITY BUSINESS PARTNERS SUCH AS THRIFTY SPECIALTY PRODUCE CHICK-FIL-A FRUITS OF MY LABOR.
GATOR AUTOMOTIVE, FLORIDA BLUE INSURANCE, FROG BONES, A FAMILY SHOOTING CENTER TRAVEL CAMP ALDEA TODAY NEWSPAPER THE HOMETOWN NEWS HAVE RECOGNIZED THE IMPORTANCE OF PROVIDING A POSITIVE VENUE FOR RESIDENTS AND CHILDREN TO CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS.
EVERYTHING IS F R W E TO THE TO THE PUBLIC, FROM COTTON CANDY TO HOT DOGS, TO LIVE MUSIC, FUN ACTIVITIES, ALL GUIDED FOR CHILDREN AND ADULTS.
THE SPONSORS OF THIS ANNUAL EVENT HAVE COMMITTED TO SERVING OTHERS DURING THE CHRISTMAS SEASON AND GIVING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN SOMEONE'S LIFE.
WHEREAS AS A DEMONSTRATION OF LOVE, THE HOUSE, CHURCH, ELEVATION CHURCH, EAST WIND, PENTECOSTAL CHURCH, VICTORY AND CHRIST'S CENTREPOINT, POINT CHURCH, GRACE BIBLE CHURCH OR NADAL.
CIELO MINISTRIES OF FLORIDA AND CEDAR.
THE SEA. THE RESCUE MISSION HAVE ALL UNITED TO BRING THE 14TH ANNUAL FAMILY CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA.
AND. WHEREAS, SENIOR PASTOR AND SENIOR PASTOR, NOT BECAUSE OF HIS AGE, JUST WANTED A HIGHLIGHT THAT KEN DELGADO OF THE HOUSE CHURCH IN PALM BAY SAID WITH TODAY'S NEWS BEING FILLED WITH DIVISION, CONTENTION AND EXPRESSIONS OF HATRED, IT IS EXCITING TO SEE THE CITY OF PALM BAY, ALONG WITH CITY BUSINESSES AND ITS CITIZENS, CREATE AN EVENT WHERE LOVE, JOY AND PEACE IS EXPRESSED IN THAT NICE.
THE FAMILY CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA IS THE GREATEST EXPRESSION THAT SO MANY PEOPLE YEARN FOR AND IS WHAT THE ANGELS PROCLAIMED AT THE BIRTH OF JESUS, SAYING PEACE AND GOODWILL TOWARDS ALL MEN.
AND. WHEREAS, OVER 60 LOCAL BUSINESSES AND ORGANIZATIONS SUCH AS THE SOUTH BREVARD, MARINE CORPS TOYS FOR TOTS IN THAT GREAT HURRAH TO MY MARINE CORPS HAVE MADE DONATIONS OF TOYS, FOOD, GIFT CERTIFICATES, EQUIPMENT, FINANCES AND GOODY BAGS.
THE EVENT WILL FEATURE MUSICIANS AND ARTISTS SUCH AS UNITED SOUND, WITH JOEL LOPEZ PEPPERED CD THREE, BARANSKI, EDIE ANTHONY AS EDDIE FROST AND MUCH, MUCH MORE.
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TAKE PLACE THIS SATURDAY, DECEMBER 17, FROM 11 TO 5 P.M..NOT THIS SATURDAY THE 17TH, AS YOU WERE.
SO THAT'S NEXT SATURDAY AT FED POPPY REGIONAL PARK, 1951 MALABAR ROAD, NORTH WEST PALM BAY TO PROVIDE AN UPLIFTING MESSAGE OF HOPE AND FUTURE DURING THE CHRISTMAS SEASON AS SO MANY FAMILIES CONTINUE TO HAVE DIFFICULT TIMES.
NOW. THEREFORE, I ROB MEDINA, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY OF SAID OFFICE, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM DECEMBER 17, 2022, AS FAMILY CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA DAY IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, AND COMMEND THE HOUSE CHURCH LOCATED IN PALM BAY AND ITS PARTNERS FOR HOSTING THE 14TH ANNUAL FAMILY CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA EXTRAVAGANZA AND ENCOURAGE ALL OUR CITIZENS TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS WONDERFUL AND FUN EVENT.
WAY TO GO, JENNIFER AND PASTOR, YOU ALL HAVE A MOMENT ON THE MIC.
WELL, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AND ON BEHALF OF THE 14TH ANNUAL FAMILY CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA, WE JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT TO HELP US TO MAKE THIS EVENT SO POSSIBLE, TO TOUCH LIVES AND TOUCH THE THOUSANDS OF LIVES THAT WE TOUCH CONTINUOUSLY EVERY YEAR.
PEOPLE THAT COME OUT CONTINUOUSLY.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL.
IT'S ABSOLUTELY 100% FOR DOUBLE E FREE.
BUT YOU MADE ME EXCITED ABOUT THE CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA.
WE THOUGHT ABOUT BRINGING OUR 300 RED SHIRTS IN.
DO ME A FAVOR. THIS CHRISTMAS, TURN TO THE PERSON.
NEXT. YOU GIVE THEM A BIG SMILE AND WISH THEM A MERRY CHRISTMAS.
SHOW HIM THAT YOU HAVE SOME TEETH IN THERE.
TAKE OUT THE CHOPPERS AND JUST CUT.
HI THERE. OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW.
AND YOU KNOW, I'M SO EXCITED BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE IT'S GOING THROUGH THE AIRWAVES AND BECAUSE YOU'RE HERE, YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT SUPPORTING THE CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA THROUGH YOUR BUSINESS NEXT YEAR.
I CAN JUST FEEL THE EXCITEMENT COMING.
THANK YOU FOR THE CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA.
WE THANK YOU FOR LETTING US SERVE YOU.
I HEARD THERE'S A 72 INCH TV GOING TO BE GIVEN AWAY.
WOW. THAT WOULD COVER ONE OF MY BEDROOMS. BUT THANK YOU, MAYOR.
THOSE THOSE WHO SERVICE OVER HERE.
KENNY JOHNSON, WHEN HE COMES ON THE SCENE OVER THERE, I MEAN, I GET SO EXCITED ABOUT HIS ENTHUSIASM.
MATTER OF FACT, I THINK IT'S THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH.
MERRY CHRISTMAS. OKAY, THAT'S GOOD.
THAT'S GOOD. HONEY, COME HERE.
HOLD THAT. ALL RIGHT, HOLD THAT.
WHY AM I HERE? THANK YOU FOR ALL THEIR HELP FOR BRINGING THIS YEAR TO YOU.
THIS YEAR. I'LL SEE ALL THEY'RE ALL THERE.
I'LL TRY. I'LL START PRACTICING.
YOU SEE YOU, MOM. I'M GOING UP YOUR THING FOR HER CHURCH.
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THANK YOU.SO THERE'S SO MUCH TO BE GRATEFUL FOR, RIGHT? THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE THAT GIVE OF THEIR TIME.
THEY SERVE OTHERS BEFORE THEY SERVE THEMSELVES.
AND THIS AND THIS PROCLAMATION IS IS GEARED TOWARDS THAT.
THERE'S A THERE'S A WOMAN'S MINISTRY THAT WE'RE GOING TO RECOGNIZE TODAY.
SO OUR NEXT PROCLAMATION, I'M GOING TO CALL UP REVEREND BETSY DELGADO AND HER CHURCH WOMEN'S TEAM.
COME ON UP. THAT'S YOU TO EMILY.
SO, REVEREND DELGADO, OVER HERE.
IT IS HEREBY RECOGNIZED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA.
WHEREAS REVEREND BETSY DELGADO OF THE HOUSE CHURCH HAD A VISION TO CREATE A SISTERHOOD UNDER THE BANNER OF CHERISHED THAT STARTED IN 2007 AND HAS TOUCHED THOUSANDS OF WOMEN OVER THE YEARS OF EXISTENCE, IMPACTING PALM BAY AND THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE.
AND. WHEREAS, BETSY DELGADO SPECIFICALLY BIRTH CHERISHED TO BREATHE HOPE AND BEAUTY TO THE FEMININE HEART, SO THEY MAY DISCOVER A GOD WHO REALLY LOVES THEM AND THANKS THEM AND THINKS VERY HIGHLY OF THEM.
AND. WHEREAS, CHERISHED BELIEVES IN PAMPERING WOMEN INTO LOVING CHRIST BY EXPRESSING THE LOVE OF CHRIST THROUGH HAND MASSAGES, SHOULDER RUBS, MANICURES, HAIRCUTS, HAND PARAFFIN, WAX TREATMENT.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT THAT SOUNDS EXCITING.
AND PARAFFIN WAX TREATMENTS, RIGHT? AND. WHEREAS VOLUNTEERS ARE READY TO HELP GUESTS FEEL WELCOMED, CATERED, PAMPERED AND SPECIAL DURING EVERY EVENT, REGARDLESS OF RACE, AGE, RELIGION AND OR NATIONALITY.
AND. WHEREAS, CHERISHED DESIRES TO BRING OUT THE BEST IN WOMEN AND GIRLS OF ALL AGES.
AND FROM ALL THE WALKS OF LIFE.
IT'S HARD TO READ THESE SMALL LETTERS, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY TRANSITION INTO THAT DIFFERENT THE LIFE FILLED MESSAGES AND EXTRAVAGANT CREATIVE WORSHIP. PROVIDE A SOURCE OF STRENGTH, HOPE, FAITH THAT WILL ENABLE THEM TO BELIEVE IN THEIR GOD GIVEN POTENTIAL TO CHANGE AND INFLUENCE THEIR WORLD.
REVEREND BETSY DELGADO AND CHERISH WOMAN'S MINISTRY FOR THEIR DEDICATED SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY.
SO WE HAVE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE.
WHEREAS BECAUSE WHEN WHEN MAYOR MEDINA CAME AND ASKED AND SAID I SAID ONE REQUEST, I HAVE IT.
IT'S NOT A LONG ONE, BUT A SHORT ONE.
BUT LISTEN, THANK YOU TRULY WHO HAS BEEN AN HONOR.
THIS IS 16 YEARS AGO WHEN THIS WAS DROPPED INTO MY HEART.
AND MANY OF YOU, YOU AND MANY OF YOU, THERE ARE SEEDS THAT ARE DROPPED INTO YOUR SPIRIT, INTO YOUR MIND, AND YOU THINK, OH, YOU'RE JUST SAYING WHAT A GREAT IDEA IT IS. BUT IT'S NOT JUST A GREAT IDEA, IT'S A GREAT GOD IDEA.
AND SO WHEN YOU START AND YOU BEGIN THOSE LITTLE, LITTLE STEPS, YOU TAKE THOSE SMALL STEPS AND YOU STAY THE PATH THING, GREAT THINGS HAPPEN.
LITTLE DID I KNOW BACK IN 2007 THAT WHEN THAT SLOGAN WAS DROPPED IN MY HEART, INSPIRING HOPE AND BEAUTY INTO THE FEMININE HEART AND FOR WOMEN OF ALL AGES.
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AT OUR LAST EVENT IN SEPTEMBER, WE HAD THE YOUNGEST WAS MAYBE ABOUT FIVE OR SIX YEARS OLD, AND THE OLDEST WAS ALMOST 100 NO 95.JUST EXERCISING OUR GOD GIVEN POTENTIAL OF.
OF. OF SERVING AND WORSHIPING GOD.
OH, MY GOD. I SAID MY HEART WENT.
BUT LITTLE DID I KNOW THAT IN 2022.
WE WERE GOING TO TO FACE OUR YOUNG GIRLS WERE GOING TO PHASE.
SHAME IF YOU BECOME IF YOU IF YOU ARE IF YOU WANT TO BE A GIRL FEELING, FEELING ASHAMED AND TRYING TO DRESS LIKE BOYS. AND SO LITTLE DID I KNOW THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE AT HERE AT THIS TIME TO BRING TO INSPIRE HOPE TO THE LITTLE HEARTS OF OUR YOUNG GIRLS SO THAT THEY CAN BECOME GIRLS AND THAT THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE NOT ASHAMED TO SAY, I AM A GIRL AND I WANT TO DRESS LIKE A GIRL AND I WANT TO DO THINGS LIKE A GIRL AND I WANT TO BE ALL FEMININE.
THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT I'M HERE FOR.
AND I WILL DO IT WITH ALL MY HEART.
AND WE WILL DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO TO REMIND OUR GIRLS THAT THERE IS A PLACE TO BE FEMININE.
AND THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH BEING FEMININE AT ALL.
BEAUTIFUL. BECAUSE IT'S A GOD GIVEN GIFT.
JUST BECAUSE I'M A PASTOR, I HAVE TO TAKE THE MIC ON A SERIOUS NOTE.
PROBABLY THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS THAT WE'RE HAVING IS A DISCONNECT BETWEEN THOSE WHO HAVE GRACEFULLY ADDED YEARS TO THEIR LIVES. AND THE YOUNG GIRLS.
THAT ARE COMING UP, THE WISDOM THAT ARE ACQUIRED OVER THE YEARS.
ONE OF THE VISION THAT MY WIFE HAD IS TO BRIDGE THAT GAP AND TO BRING THE YOUNG PEOPLE BACK TO THOSE WHO HAVE MATURED THROUGH EXPERIENCE, THROUGH LIFE, WITH THE WISDOM OF TIME.
AND SHE'S DONE SUCH A BEAUTIFUL JOB IN ACTUALLY BRIDGING THAT GAP AND MAKING THEM ONE AGAIN.
AND SO I WANT TO PRAISE MY WIFE FOR A GREAT A GREAT JOB AND WONDERFUL.
WE'RE SO BIG NOW THAT THAT WE'RE WAITING FOR THEM TO OPEN UP A LARGER AUDITORIUM HERE IN PALM BAY.
CURRENTLY, THOUGH, WE HAVE TO MEET AT THE MILLBURN AUDITORIUM.
AND AND BUT IT'S ALL IN THE MASTER PLAN, I AM SURE.
BUT THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND A GREAT JOB.
SO WE ARE NOW ON PRESENTATIONS AND.
[PRESENTATION]
MADAM SHERMAN.SHE'S HERE TO GIVE YOU HER LATEST UPDATE.
AS YOU ALL KNOW, I'M PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE GREATER POMPEI CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
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THOSE THAT YOU KNOW ME KNOW I ACTUALLY WORK TO TRAVEL.THAT'S MY BIGGEST JOY IN LIFE.
AND I HAVE TO SAY, COMING BACK.
I'VE LIVED IN BREVARD COUNTY 25 PLUS YEARS, MOST OF IT IN PALM BAY AND COMING BACK HERE.
SO IT IS ONE OF THE MOST FABULOUS PLACES IN THE WORLD, I WILL ADMIT THAT.
OUR MISSION IS TO SERVE, ADVOCATE AND PROMOTE AS A TRUSTED VOICE FOR OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY.
AND OUR NUMBER ONE JOB IS TO SAFEGUARD THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY.
SINCE WE ARE THE LARGEST BUSINESS ORGANIZATION IN PALM BAY.
AND I KNOW I SAY THAT EVERY TIME, BUT SOMETIMES IT TAKES A WHILE TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT THAT MEANS, BECAUSE OUR MEMBERS RANGE FROM HOME BASED BUSINESSES TO MULTINATIONAL CORPORATIONS.
WE'VE BEEN DOING SOME ACTUAL RESEARCH RIGHT NOW, AND SOLE PROPRIETORS MAKE UP 28% OF THE CHAMBER, AND THEN IT GOES FROM 2 TO 5 EMPLOYEES.
20%. 6 TO 10 EMPLOYEES IS 18%, 11 TO 25 EMPLOYEES IS 17%, AND THEN 26 PLUS EMPLOYEES IS 17%.
SO IT REALLY IS A RANGE ACROSS THE SPECTRUM.
BUT SOLE PROPRIETORS ARE ONE OF THE LARGEST MAJORITY.
AND THEN WE LOOKED AT KIND OF INDUSTRY SECTORS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU KIND OF WONDER PALM BAY IS SUCH A DIVERSE PLACE AND OUR MEMBERS COME FROM, I'LL GET TO THAT FROM DIFFERENT AREAS.
BUT THEN YOU HAVE FAMILY, COMMUNITY AND CIVIC ORGANIZATIONS MAKING UP 14%.
YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE THINK THAT IT'S JUST ALL THE SAME.
SO IT MAKES FOR A VERY INTERESTING CHAMBER, I DO HAVE TO SAY THAT.
SO WE TRY AND LEVERAGE EVERY MEMBERSHIP TO BUILD THE VOICE OF BUSINESS.
AND SO AS EVERY MEMBER WHO JOINED, THEN WE DID HAVE 134 NEW BUSINESSES JOIN US THIS YEAR.
IT INCREASES THE NUMBER OF BUSINESS CONSTITUENTS THAT WE REPRESENT AND WE HELP GROW OUR OUR PARTNERS BUSINESSES BY PROVIDING CUSTOMER DEVELOPMENT, OF COURSE, INCOME DEVELOPMENT, EXPENSE REDUCTION.
WE TALK ABOUT WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT.
WE'RE LIKE A CONDUIT TO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY.
SO WE GET AND DISSEMINATE INFORMATION NOT JUST FROM OUR MEMBERS BUT FROM THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE.
SO WE GET A LOT OF PRESS RELEASES FROM THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BUT ALSO BREVARD PUBLIC SCHOOLS, OUR SPACE COAST OFFICE OF TOURISM, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION, MELBOURNE, ORLANDO INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT, OUR PORT CANAVERAL SPACE FORCE CAREER SOURCE, SBA, SBDC SCORE, ELECTED OFFICIALS AND SO MANY MORE.
BUT WHAT THIS MEANS IS THAT, LIKE I SAID, WE BECOME THE CONDUIT BECAUSE BUSINESS OWNERS ARE VERY BUSY WORKING IN THEIR BUSINESS AND SOMETIMES IT'S HARD TO WORK ON IT AND TO GO TO ALL THESE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS AND FIND OUT WHAT'S HAPPENING.
SO WE DISSEMINATE THAT INFORMATION.
THEY CAN SEE IT EVERY WEEK IN OUR WEEKLY INTEL AND KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON THROUGHOUT BREVARD COUNTY BECAUSE IT DOES HELP THEM MAKE MORE INFORMED DECISIONS WHEN THEY'RE LOOKING AT THEIR BUSINESS PLANS.
OUR WE'RE THE PRIMARY COMMUNITY RESOURCE AND WELCOME CENTER FOR VISITORS FOR CURRENT AND FUTURE RESIDENTS, AS WELL AS A RESOURCE FOR RELOCATING COMPANIES AND DEVELOPERS. PARTNERS HAVE THEIR BUSINESS CARDS AND BROCHURES IN OUR LOBBY FOR REFERRALS, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE A WEBSITE PRESENCE THROUGH OUR CHAMBER, WHICH OFTEN RANKS HIGHER THAN THEIR OWN WEBSITE BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC THAT COMES THROUGH THE CHAMBER WEBSITE.
AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT A BIT.
IT REALLY DOES ELEVATE THEIR THEIR BUSINESS AS A WHOLE.
BEING PART OF THE CHAMBER, WE ALSO HELP PROMOTE OUR PARTNERS THROUGH OUR WEEKLY CHAMBER, INTEL, OUR WEBSITE, OUR DIGITAL SIGN THAT'S ON US ONE THERE, OUR BUSINESS DIRECTORY AND COMMUNITY GUIDE, PHONE CALLS AND EMAIL REFERRALS, DIGITAL MARKETING, OUR NEW MEMBER PACKET AND MULTIPLE SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES. IT IS OUR GOAL TO HELP OUR BUSINESS.
I JUST HAD A VERY LONG CONVERSATION WITH ONE OF THEM JUST BEFORE I GOT HERE.
THEY ARE HAVING A PR CRISIS AND DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE AND IDEAS TO THINK ABOUT.
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SO IT'S THE CHAMBER ISN'T JUST A NETWORKING GROUP.WE REALLY DO SUPPORT THE BUSINESSES IN MORE WAYS THAN OFTEN PEOPLE REALIZE.
I REALLY WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND VISIBILITY THIS YEAR.
IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT MORE FUN AND ENTERTAINING TOMORROW.
BUT AND GREAT FOOD FROM YELLOW DOG.
I THINK SOMETIMES THEY JUST SEE AN ENTITY AND REALLY DON'T KNOW ALL THAT WE DO.
I THINK FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT KNOW THE CHAMBER HAS COME A LONG WAY IN THE LAST FEW YEARS AND WE ARE LOOKING TO STEER THAT DIRECTION IN FUTURE YEARS.
IT'S VERY INTENSIVE, LOTS OF HOMEWORK, BUT IT HELPS US ANALYZE OUR CURRENT OPERATIONS.
AND SOME OF THOSE NUMBERS THAT I SAID EARLIER CAME OUT OF THAT ANALYSIS.
AND WE'VE ALSO INVESTED IN OUR TEAMS. SO CAROLINA G, YOU MAY KNOW HER AS CAROLINA ROJAS.
SHE'S PARTICIPATING IN THE 2022 LEAD BREVARD PROGRAM AND ALSO THE WI VENTURE ATHENA PROGRAM.
SO WE ARE BUILDING THE NEXT GENERATION OF LEADERS TO I RETIRE ANYWAY.
SO WE HAVE A NEW TOASTMASTERS GROUP AS WELL THAT WAS FORMED THROUGH THE CHAMBER AND IS A PERFECT OPPORTUNITY FOR ANYONE TO IMPROVE THEIR SPEAKING SKILLS AND FEEL MORE CONFIDENT SPEAKING IN FRONT OF PEOPLE.
IT'S OBVIOUSLY A NECESSARY SKILL THAT YOU NEED IN THE BUSINESS WORLD.
OUR MAYOR'S BREAKFAST DID SELL OUT.
IT WAS VERY FUN AND INFORMATIVE.
NEXT YEAR IS GOING TO BE OUR 15TH ANNIVERSARY.
WE HAVE THAT SCHEDULED FOR MAY 19TH, OUR SPACE COAST SYMPOSIUM.
IT WAS IT WAS A SMASHING SUCCESS.
IT WAS SOLD OUT. AND I THINK ONE OF THE HIGHLIGHTS FOR ME WAS JERRY GLYCOL.
SO THAT WAS LIKE, WOOHOO! WE ALSO HAD JARED PERDUE.
HE'S THE SECOND. DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AS A KEYNOTE SPEAKER AND OUR PARTICIPATING PANELIST COMPANIES WERE NOBO, APUS CORP., TOMAHAWK ROBOTICS, SPACEX, PERSPECTIVE B, LILIUM, UCF AND EMBRY AIR.
NEXT YEAR WE HAVE THE SYMPOSIUM SCHEDULED FOR AUGUST 25TH.
I HAVE TO SAY OCTOBER 13TH WAS A HUGE CELEBRATION FOR US.
AND I WANTED TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT ACTUALLY TO THE MEMBERS.
WE HAVE THEM SOME THAT ARE 20 YEARS PLUS.
FEW OF THOSE HAVE HAD NAME CHANGES IN THOSE 25 YEARS.
OUR OLDEST ONES ARE 30 YEARS PLUS, AND THAT'S PRINT DEPOT.
AND FORMERLY THEY WERE PITT PRINTING, WASTE MANAGEMENT, BADCOCK FURNITURE AND MORE HERE ON BABCOCK STREET, PALM BAY ALUMINUM, THE CITY OF PALM BAY, FLORIDA, POWER AND LIGHT AND RENT INSURANCE.
SO MOST OF OUR PARTNERS DO COME FROM PALM BAY.
SOME OF THESE 6% OF OUR MEMBERS HAVE BEEN WITH US 1 TO 4 YEARS.
SO YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE A LOT OF NEW BUSINESSES THAT HAVE COME IN.
AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE A LITTLE CRAZY WITH THAT.
WE ARE WORKING WITH LOWE'S THIS YEAR TO BRING BOTH EXPOSURE TO LOWE'S.
THEY NEED IT, BUT WORKING TOGETHER WITH THEM AT THE MALABAR ROAD FACILITY SO THAT IT WILL BE AN OUTDOOR EVENT ON APRIL 1ST AND SHOWCASING SMB AND COMMUNITY BUSINESSES.
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IT IS NOT ONE THAT THEY COME FROM AROUND THE STATE.THEY COME FOR TWO DAYS, SET UP AND THEN LEAVE.
THESE ARE OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES THAT WE WILL BE SHOWCASING THAT THE HOME SHOW AND EXPO ON APRIL 1ST.
WE CONTINUE TO STRIVE TO MAKE THE GREATER PALM BAY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE THE BEST THAT IT CAN BE.
WE TRULY APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT WE RECEIVE FROM THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
IT'S DIFFERENT AND IT'S PERSONABLE.
AND I, I FEEL THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY FEELS THE SUPPORT THAT THEY RECEIVE FROM ALL OF YOU.
SO I JUST REALLY WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR THAT SUPPORT.
I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT I'M ABLE TO MEET WITH THE CITY MANAGER EVERY MONTH.
WE'RE ABLE TO DISCUSS CONCERNS.
WE TRULY WORK TOGETHER ON PROGRAMS AND SHARE INFORMATION.
I DO BELIEVE THAT WE'RE IN FOR A FABULOUS 2023.
AND BY THE WAY, EVERYONE IS INVITED TO OUR OPEN HOUSE.
IT IS ON DECEMBER 16TH FROM 11 TO 5.
YOU CAN STAY A FEW MINUTES, FEW HOURS.
OF COURSE, THERE'S LOTS OF FOOD AND REFRESHMENTS AND SOMETIMES SURPRISES.
LAST YEAR. SASHA GOT COUNCILMAN JOHNSON TO DO A TWIRL AROUND THE FLOOR.
THAT WAS THE CUTEST VIDEO EVER.
SO YOU NEVER KNOW REALLY WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AT THAT EVENT.
BUT IT'S JUST AN OPEN HOUSE FOR ANYBODY TO COME BY THE CHAMBER AND SAY HI.
THANK YOU. OUTSTANDING JOB, NANCY.
AND WE SEE THE FRUITS OF YOUR SUCCESS, RIGHT, OF THE CHAMBER'S SUCCESS.
YES, MA'AM. I WOULD LIKE TO JUST ADD A PERHAPS A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE TO ELABORATE ON.
WE'RE ALL GOING TO PLAY OK ON THE VIDEO.
AND WHILE US ON COUNCIL, WE WE CAN VISUALIZE BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN THERE.
IF THERE BE SOME WAY ON THE NEXT PRESENTATION TO PUT IT ON THE.
ABSOLUTELY. POWERPOINT OF THE SORT SO THEY CAN SEE WHAT THESE EVENTS LOOK LIKE.
WHO IS FOLLOWING THESE EVENTS.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE WEST MELBOURNE MAYORS COMING TO PALM BAY IN OUR CITY, YOU KNOW, SO THINGS OF THAT NATURE, I THINK THAT'LL BE GREAT FOR THE AUDIENCE AND EVERYONE TO SEE HOW WE SEE IT BECAUSE WE'RE THERE.
ACTUALLY, I WANTED TO DO THAT AND THEN THEY WENT, OH, I DIDN'T GET IT TO THEM BY MONDAY.
SO MY, MY APOLOGIES BECAUSE I REALLY WANTED TO DO THAT THIS TIME, SO I'M SO SORRY.
SO I WANTED TO START ON THE OTHER END OF THE GUIDANCE AS WELL.
ANY COMMENTS WOULD YOU LIKE TO WEIGH IN? COUNCIL? THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MARY AND NANCY, THANK YOU FOR THE POSITIVE PROGRESS REPORT, EVERYTHING THE CHAMBER IS DOING.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCILMAN FOSTER, THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATING IN THE CHRISTMAS PARADE.
AND, YOU KNOW, THE CHAMBER HELPS PUT PALM BAY ON THE MAP.
AND YOU JUST EXPLAINED THAT THROUGH YOUR PRESENTATION, HOW COMPANIES AND HOW LOCAL BUSINESSES ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THIS GREAT OPPORTUNITY CALLED PALM BAY AND PROMOTING THEIR BUSINESS.
AND I THANK YOU AND YOUR STAFF.
THAT'S A LOT. THAT'S A LOT WITH THE NUMBER OF STAFF YOU HAVE.
THAT SHOWS YOU YOU'RE WORKING HARD.
AND I APPRECIATE YOU AND YOUR STAFF.
AGAIN, NANCY, YOU KNOW, I'M A BIG FAN, RIGHT? I DON'T THINK I'VE MISSED AN EVENT, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY WHEN FOOD IS INVOLVED.
RIGHT. BUT TRULY, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THE NUMBERS SPEAK FOR ITSELF.
RIGHT. THE NUMBERS YOU SHARE WITH US, THOSE ARE REAL NUMBERS.
A LOT OF THE EVENTS ARE HELD OUTSIDE OF PALM BAY.
THIS IS THE CHAMBER TO BE A MEMBER OF.
AND THE NUMBERS, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, 28% SOLE PROPRIETORSHIP.
IT'S NOT JUST THE BIG BUSINESS.
HE'S THE INDIVIDUAL INSURANCE AGENT.
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SO 28%, THE LARGEST PORTION THAT SAYS A LOT ABOUT WHAT YOU DO.VERY IMPRESSIVE. I'M CURIOUS ABOUT ONE ONE STATISTIC YOU DIDN'T GIVE TO US IN TERMS OF RETENTION.
VERY IMPORTANT. YOU CAN BRING BUSINESS IN.
DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA IN TERMS OF.
THAT'S FINE. I'LL GET THAT TO YOU.
I MEAN, I DO HAVE THE NUMBER, BUT I'M.
I MEAN, IT'S ONE THING TO KEEP GETTING NUMBERS, BUT IF YOU'RE LOSING THEM, TOO, THAT'S NOT HELPFUL.
SO THAT IS A NUMBER WE FOCUS ON.
I SHOULD KNOW WHAT IT'S RIGHT ON MY WALL.
SO I LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE ABOUT, 76%.
I KNOW FOR A FACT IT'S A GREAT NUMBER.
OH, OKAY. YEAH, I'VE BEEN ENOUGH EVENTS, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S ABOUT 76%.
AND SADLY, SOME OF THE BUSINESSES THAT WE LOST THIS YEAR ACTUALLY WENT OUT OF BUSINESS.
THERE WAS A LARGE PERCENTAGE AND WE LOOK AT THAT AND WE ACTUALLY, MADAM SHERMAN AND MYSELF HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING LIKE WHAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO TO HEAD THAT OFF, BECAUSE OFTEN BY THE TIME THEY'VE COME TO THE CHAMBER, THEY'RE ON THEIR LAST GASP AND THEY'RE THINKING THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE THE SAVIOR THAT COMES AND EVERYBODY IS GOING TO SUPPORT THEIR BUSINESS AND THEY'LL BE FINE.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HAVING CONVERSATIONS OF HOW DO WE HEAD THAT OFF? AND EVEN SOMETIMES BY THE TIME THEY COME TO YOU, IT'S TOO LATE TO GET THEIR BUSINESS LICENSE BECAUSE WE HAD A MEMBER THAT WE DID A RIBBON CUTTING FOR.
BY THE TIME WE WENT TO GIVE THEM THEIR FRAMED PICTURE, THEY WERE OUT OF BUSINESS.
AND THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WANT TO SEE.
AND SO IT'S LIKE, WHAT CAN WE DO? BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE PUT THEIR LIFE SAVINGS INTO THEIR BUSINESS.
AND SO IT'S LIKE, WHAT CAN WE DO TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE SO THAT THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN? AND SO WE'RE HAVING THAT CONVERSATION BECAUSE WE SEEM TO HAVE HIGHER NUMBERS OF THAT IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, SADLY.
SO THAT IS I'M NOT SURE THAT I HAVE THE RIGHT SOLUTION FOR THAT YET.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE WORKING ON AND WE'VE WE'VE STARTED THAT CONVERSATION OF HOW WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE SO THAT THE NUMBERS ARE A LITTLE LOWER ON PEOPLE GOING OUT OF BUSINESS.
FINANCING FROM PREMIER EVENTS TO EVEN PROVIDING RESOURCES FOR NEW ENTREPRENEURS.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE HITTING THE NAIL ON THE HEAD.
AND I HAVE SUPPORTED THE CHAMBER FOR WELL OVER DECADES.
RIGHT. BUT SOMETHING I WOULD LOVE TO SEE.
PERHAPS YOU CAN WORK THIS OUT.
I KNOW THAT YELLOW DOG IS IS ACTUALLY CATERING TOMORROW.
JUST JUST PERHAPS PERHAPS IN THE FUTURE, WE COULD HAVE A CATERED EVENT AT.
WITHIN OUR CITY LIMITS, THAT'S ALL.
SO ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT I HAVE MENTIONED IS BUSINESSES BEING LAST MINUTE LOSES.
AND SO WE STARTED MONDAY WITH A HUNDRED.
NOPE, NOT EVEN THERE WERE 75 PEOPLE THAT WERE COMING TOMORROW.
YELLOW DOG, RIGHT? NO, THEY STEWARD WOULD ABSOLUTELY SAY, NO, THEY CAN'T.
SO PART OF IT, LIKE STEWART CAN'T CATER ANYMORE.
STEWART'S JUST BRINGING THE FOOD SO THAT'S IT.
EVENTS ARE A PAIN IN THE NECK.
AND SO WE DO A LOT OF THEM, BUT THEY'RE A PAIN IN THE NECK.
AND ANY TIME FOOD IS INVOLVED, IT'S A REALLY LARGE PROBLEM GETTING CATERERS, GETTING YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO SET UP ALL THE TABLES AND HIRE PEOPLE TO DO THAT AND YOUR COSTS INCREASE.
SO. YOU KNOW, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE SOMETHING HERE IN PALM BAY.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY CAN.
SO IF I FIND A PLACE THAT I'D LOVE THAT I EVEN WENT TO WORK AT RIVERVIEW.
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BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE NOT ABLE TO HAVE ANYTHING THERE EITHER.WE TRY. WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION.
I KNOW FOR I KNOW I IT SOUNDS LIKE I'M TRYING NOT TO DO IT.
WE OUTGREW THE LIFE CARE CENTER, REMEMBER? WE HAD IT THERE FOR YEARS.
WE HAVE 155 PEOPLE COMING TO OUR LUNCHEON.
WE USED TO HAVE LIKE 65 PEOPLE THERE.
SO IT'S IT'S A PROBLEM BECAUSE WE'VE GROWN SO MUCH.
IT'S A GOOD PROBLEM, BUT IT'S ONE THAT PALM BAY DOESN'T HAVE THE FACILITIES RIGHT NOW AND.
WHAT'S IN PLACE THAT WE NEED TO HAVE TO HAVE A LUNCHEON.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WHERE TO HAVE THE STATE OF PALM BAY BREAKFAST.
SO, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO, BUT WE'RE TRYING.
WE JUST HAD A MEETING WHERE WE BROUGHT THAT UP AT A BCRA MEETING.
YEAH. AND THAT WAS HIGHLIGHTED.
YES. SO IF YOU HAVE IDEAS, I WOULD PLEASE, I'D LOVE THAT.
BUT WE WE RUN THROUGH ALL OF THEM.
PERHAPS. PERHAPS CAP IT AT, YOU KNOW, 130 AND THAT'S IT.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW. BUT CERTAINLY I WOULD APPRECIATE SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
MAYBE YOU WANT ONCE A YEAR, THAT'S ALL.
BUT YOU'RE DOING AN OUTSTANDING JOB, MAN.
THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
ALL RIGHT. THANKS. ALL RIGHT. GOD BLESS YOU, MAN.
[PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES]
DEPUTY MAYOR, WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS NOW.WE'RE GOING TO START WITH MR. BILL BATON. I'LL FOLLOW BY RANDALL CHESKY AND ROBERT STICE.
JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO TAKE ONE SECOND AND THINK ABOUT TOMORROW, DECEMBER 7TH.
REMEMBER THAT DAY. FOLKS HAPPEN ONCE.
IT'S HAPPENED TWICE, IT CAN HAPPEN AGAIN.
DON'T FORGET THEM. GET ON THE MIC, BROTHER.
AND IT'S WORTH REPEATING, MASTER CHIEF.
I SAID DON'T FORGET DECEMBER 7TH.
GET CLOSE TO GET. CAN YOU GET IT CLOSER, BROTHER? CAST. ONE, TWO, THREE, THREE, TWO, ONE.
YES, SIR. BILL BATTON 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.
THIS REQUEST IS FIRST NOT TO FORGET DECEMBER 7TH.
AND REMEMBER, IT'S HAPPENED ONCE.
IT'S HAPPENED TWICE. IT CAN HAPPEN AGAIN.
LET'S NOT FORGET ABOUT THOSE THAT PAID THE ULTIMATE PRICE.
GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
THAT BEING SAID, I WILL REPEAT MR. BILL BAT AND SENTIMENT ALWAYS REMEMBER THE 7TH OF DECEMBER, A DATE THAT WILL ALWAYS LIVE IN INFAMY, UNFORTUNATELY.
THAT'S MY FIRST BIT OF GRATITUDE IS TO ALL OF YOU.
MY NEXT BIT OF GRATITUDE IS TO ALL OF THE.
MY FAMILY AND I ENJOYED IT VERY MUCH.
I'D BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T SAY THAT I QUITE ENJOYED MY VIEW OF THE MAYOR ENJOYING HIS TIME.
BUT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE CITY OPERATIONS, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE FROM THE CITY IS A LITTLE BIT OF A WRITE UP AS JUST HOW MUCH THOSE STORMS DID COST US FROM A FINANCIAL PERSPECTIVE, JUST SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT A NEAR MISS THAT THOSE CATEGORIES PENCILS OUT TO BE IN THE VEIN OF BUDGETING.
MY MY NEXT BIT IS REALLY A REQUEST TO MY FELLOW CITIZENS.
BUT UNFORTUNATELY, AS YOU HEARD, OUR NEWLY APPOINTED DEPUTY MAYOR ANNOUNCED WE HAVE TWO AT-LARGE POSITIONS THAT CONTINUE TO ROLL INTO COUNCIL AGENDAS BECAUSE NOBODY IS SUBMITTING AN APPLICATION. SO WE GOT A LOT OF WISE NOWADAYS, WHETHER IT'S ON THE FACEBOOK OR ANYTHING ELSE, THEY WANT TO SHARE THEIR OPINIONS AND HAVE TO BE HEARD.
BUT UNFORTUNATELY OUR CITIZENS BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD ROSTER IS SUFFERING AND IT'S SUFFERING TO SUCH A DEGREE THAT I WAS INFORMED BY THE FINANCE STAFF THAT WE DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE ON THE BOARD TO HOST OUR WORKSHOP NEXT WEEK ON THE 14TH, BECAUSE AS OUR NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS TERM STARTED, THE PEOPLE THAT THEY APPOINTED TERMS EXPIRED. SO UNLESS THESE FINE COUNCILMEN APPOINT SOMEBODY AT THIS MEETING, WE WON'T EVEN BE ABLE TO HAVE THE MEETING NEXT MONTH.
SO IF OUR WORKSHOP GOES BY THE WAYSIDE FOR DECEMBER, SO BE IT.
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INTEREST IN. AND FOR THREE COUNCIL MEETINGS, IT'S BEEN IT'S BEEN ANNOUNCED THAT TWO AT LARGE POSITIONS AND THERE'S NOT ONE OF YOU THAT'S SITTING THERE WATCHING THIS VIDEO RIGHT NOW OR HEAR MY VOICE BEHIND ME.THEY CAN FILL OUT A PIECE OF PAPER AND COME JOIN ME ON THE SECOND WEDNESDAY OF THE MONTH.
THEY'RE RIGHT HERE IN THIS BEAUTIFUL DYAS.
YOU GET TO SIT IN THE COMFY CHAIRS.
YOU DON'T EVEN GET TO SIT IN THESE RIDICULOUS THINGS.
OKAY, WE'VE GOT A CURFEW AT 9:00.
WE WON'T KEEP YOU HERE TOO LATE.
WE'LL GET YOU HOME BEFORE THE FOOTBALL GAME OR WHATEVER ELSE IS GOING ON.
COME HANG OUT, HELP US THRIVE AND HELP US PROSPER AND HELP US BE CITIZEN PARTICIPANTS.
THERE'S ONE PIECE OF GRATITUDE I FORGOT.
AND THAT'S THE COUNCIL AND EVERYONE THAT WAS AT THE WORKSHOP YESTERDAY.
OUR COUNCIL GAVE UP THEIR DAY JOBS TO COME WORK FOR A WHOLE DAY ON STRATEGIC PLANNING.
I'M ONE LITTLE SEED OF AN IDEA I WANT TO PLANT IS OKRS.
THE CONCEPT OF OBJECTIVES AND KEY RESULTS.
LET'S DO IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
HE'S A GOOD MAN. ROBERTS WAS 1796 WHEN BURKE DRIVE SOUTHEAST.
YES, WE WANT IT TO BE A GOLF COURSE, BUT WE DON'T WANT IT DEVELOPED.
WE WANT YOUR COMMITMENT AT FIVE ACRE LOTS.
I'VE SAID THIS MANY TIMES, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S IN THE BACK OF YOUR MIND.
THIS PROPERTY IS THE CENTRAL PARK OF BAY.
YOU HAVE DESTROYED BAYSIDE LAKES.
CRIME OCCUR. OVERCROWDING, SCHOOLS, SHOPPING, HEALTH CARE AND TRAFFIC THAT MORE OFTEN THAN NOT RESULTS IN SERIOUS INJURY OR DEATH.
YOU SAID I BELIEVE IT WAS AT LAST MEETING.
NOW WE OUGHT TO LISTEN TO THE RED SHIRTS.
ANY ARE WHEN WE'RE SIMPLY WE'RE SIMPLY PRESENTING A UNIFIED FRONT, ASKING YOU TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
YOU KNOW, AGAIN, YOU KNOW THAT I DO.
THERE IS SO MUCH LAND TO BE DEVELOPED.
THERE'S PLENTY OF LAND TO BE DEVELOPED.
LET'S NOT LOOK AT RUBBERSTAMPING FOR IMPACT FEES ON THIS.
EVERYBODY IN WELL, MANY PEOPLE IN HERE ARE PEOPLE OF FAITH.
I'VE GOT TO BELIEVE THAT GOD'S GOT THIS.
ALL RIGHT. I'M ASKING YOU TO STAY FIRM ON THIS.
STAY FIRM ON THE FIVE ACRE LOTS.
THE OWNER WENT FROM BUYING IT FOR 2.1 MILLION.
LAST I HEARD, SHE WANTS 16 MILLION.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT SHE'S SMOKING.
HOW DO YOU WANT YOUR LEGACY TO BE REMEMBERED? YOU GOT ALL OF THIS THAT YOU CAN CREATE.
EXCUSE ME, BUT DON'T MUCK IT UP.
LET'S GET SOME THOUGHTFUL THINKING BEHIND THIS AND GET FEEDBACK IN THERE.
LIKE THE 4100 HOMES THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT AT HERITAGE AT THIS PARTICULAR TIMES.
WE NEED TO ADOPT THAT LANGUAGE TO MOW IT SO IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE SUCH A DISASTER IN THERE.
THERE'S FUTURE COMING IN HERE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
ALL RIGHT. I THINK IT'S REALLY GOING TO BE POSITIVE.
SO PLEASE GIVE THAT TO CONSIDERATION.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.
MADAM SHERMAN RANDLE OLSZEWSKI DISCUSSED ABOUT THE NEAR MISS OF THE TWO HURRICANES, AND I WANTED TO SEE IF WE CAN GO BACK, GET SOME NUMBERS AND MAYBE, IF ANYTHING, PUT IT IN THE MAYOR'S MESSAGE OR JUST HIGHLIGHT THAT INFORMATION TO EVERYONE.
YOU KNOW, WE CAN CERTAINLY PULL THE DATA.
WE'VE ALREADY BEEN PULLING IT FOR OUR FEMA REPORTING IN SUCH.
THANK YOU. JUST WANTED TO TOUCH ON THAT.
CARRY ON, DEPUTY MAYOR MR. TAMBLYN AND MS..
GOOD EVENING. TIM BLEY IN 1992.
MR. FELIX, I GOT TO CONGRATULATE YOU ON YOUR I THINK IT'S A PROMOTION.
I'M NOT SURE, BUT YEAH, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT HAPPENED, BUT CONGRATULATIONS.
OKAY. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE PALM BAY VISION 2040 JUST A LITTLE BIT.
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I WAS AT THE FIRST MEETING WITH PUBLIC COMMENTS AND WE HAD ALL THE WORK BOARDS UP THERE AND PUTTING STICKERS UP FOR RECREATION AND INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AND ALL THE THINGS THAT SOME OF THE YOUR CONSTITUENTS WANTED TO SEE IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.SO I CAME TO THE SECOND PUBLIC MEETING ON THE PALM BAY 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND THEY HAD DEVELOPED SOME STORYBOARDS ON THE DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, RECREATION AND INDUSTRIAL AND HAD SOME PRINTED OUT MATERIALS.
IT DID NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT A GOLF COURSE.
YOU KNOW, MIDTERM RESULTS FROM YOUR CONSULTANTS, AND THERE'S NO MENTION OF IT WHATSOEVER.
MY OPINION TO ME, YOU KNOW, I LIVE ON THE FIRST GREEN THERE.
I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF APPALLING.
I THINK MAYBE, YOU KNOW, OVERSIGHT MAYBE UNDER SITE.
I KNOW THERE'S CONVERSATIONS GOING ON THAT INVOLVE THE GOLF COURSE PROPERTY AND WE NEED TO WORK ON THAT AND DUE DILIGENCE. MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING FROM PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP THAT CAN BE LOOKED AT ON DEVELOPING, BUYING AND THEN REPAIRING THAT PROPERTY THAT WAS TAKEN FROM US.
BUT SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE.
AND IT NEEDS TO BE DONE QUICKLY.
AS ROBERT SAID, AS EVERYBODY ELSE SAYS.
PLEASE KEEP IT UNDER CONSIDERATION.
MADAM CHAIRMAN, ANYTHING TO DO WITH VISION 2040 REGARDING THE GREEN SPACE.
BUT YOU WANTED TO ENLIGHTEN US OR NOT PARTICULARLY.
I BELIEVE THE STORYBOARDS WERE JUST GLOBALLY.
SPEAKING OF RECREATION AS A CATEGORY TOPICS.
IT DOES NOT MEAN WE HAVE LOST SIGHT OF THE MAJORS GOLF COURSE FOR SURE.
ELAINE'S SUP? MY NAME IS EILEEN SEPP.
BY THE WAY, WE DON'T HAVE A GOLF COURSE.
THERE'S NO COUNTRY. CAN YOU PULL THE MIKE CLOSER? THANK YOU, MA'AM. I APPRECIATE THAT.
WE DON'T HAVE A GOLF COURSE ANYMORE, AND THERE SHOULD BE AT LEAST ONE IN A BIG CITY LIKE PALM BAY.
HOWEVER, I'M NEW TO THIS PROCESS AND THE LAST MEETING THERE WAS SOME THINGS THAT I OBSERVED.
AFTER WATCHING THE PROPOSAL ONLINE AND WHEN HER GENUINE DISCLOSURE OF HOW YOUR DECISION WOULD AFFECT HER COMMUNITY WAS CONCLUDED, SHE WAS TOLD SHE WAS TOO LATE.
ALSO, I'VE LEARNED THAT A COUNCIL MEMBER WHO WAS RECENTLY RE ELECTED TO THIS BOARD WAS ALLOWED TO VOTE ON A PROJECT OFFERED BY A COMPANY THAT MADE A $1,000 CONTRIBUTION TO HIS CAMPAIGN WITHOUT RECUSING HIMSELF.
THIS WREAKS OF QUID PRO QUO PAYOLA OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT.
HIS VOTES ON THIS MATTER SHOULD BE NULLIFIED.
I WATCHED THIS SAME COUNCIL MEMBER DELIVER AN EXTENDED DIATRIBE AS TO WHY HE SHOULD OPPOSE AN AGENDA ITEM, ONLY TO REVERSE HIS POSITION ON THE WORD OF HIS VOTING BLOC LEADER.
THIS IS A PATTERN THAT HAS NOT GONE UNNOTICED BY THE ELECTORATE.
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IF YOU CANNOT USE YOUR VOTES TO PROMOTE THE BEST INTERESTS OF YOUR PALM BAY CONSTITUENTS BY VOTING YOUR CONSCIENCE FORMED BY YOUR INDIVIDUAL ASSESSMENT OF EACH ITEM PRESENTED TO THIS COUNCIL, THEN PLEASE STOP PRETENDING TO BE A NONPARTIZAN ASSEMBLY.IF YOU CAN'T DO THIS, YOU SHOULDN'T BE HERE.
WHERE DID THIS CONCLUDE? PUBLIC COMMENT. THANK YOU.
THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC ARGUMENTS.
AND WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER ONE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
[PUBLIC HEARINGS]
WHAT IS 2022? THAT'S 114.AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, ESTABLISHING THE MALABAR SPRINGS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.
PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 190 FLORIDA STATUTES, PROVIDING FOR NAMING THE INITIAL MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OF THE DISTRICT, ESTABLISHING A NAME OF THE DISTRICT, DESIGNATING THE PURPOSE OF THE DISTRICT.
DESIGNATING THE POWERS AND SPECIAL POWERS OF THE DISTRICT.
PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THANK YOU, MISS SMITH. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THE APPLICANT PRESENT THEIR CASE.
IT'S GOOD TO BE WITH YOU ALL AGAIN TONIGHT.
I THINK WE WERE HERE ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO.
THERE WAS A PRESENTATION MADE.
I'M REALLY HERE JUST ANSWERING QUESTIONS YOU ALL MAY HAVE.
THANK YOU. AND SO ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? MADAM CHAIRMAN, ANY COMMENTS? YOU'D LIKE THAT BEFORE I CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? NOTHING FURTHER. THANK YOU.
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR AGAINST THIS ITEM? ANYONE. I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION SO MOVED.
SECOND GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON SINGING BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.
ANY DISCUSSION, COUNCILMAN? AFTER ALL, SAD MAYOR. DEPUTY MAYOR.
ALL IN FAVOR. SAY. SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.
ROLL CALL. MARY FELIX I COUNCILMAN JOHNSON I COUNCILMAN FOSTER I COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO MA MEDINA NEI. PASSES, MOTION PASSES, 3 TO 2.
MADAM SMITH, THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ARE QUASI JUDICIAL IN NATURE.
PUBLIC HEARINGS, AGENDA ITEMS. NUMBERS TWO, FOUR, FIVE, SIX AND SEVEN.
COUNSEL TO DISCLOSE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION I DISCLOSED IN THE SUBJECT MATTER OF THE COMMUNICATION AND THE IDENTITY OF THE PERSON, GROUP OR ENTITY WITH WHOM THE COMMUNICATION TOOK PLACE.
THE ORDER OF THIS PROCEEDING WILL BE AS FOLLOWS.
FIRST, THE APPLICANT WILL MAKE HIS PRESENTATION, FOLLOWED BY STAFF COMMENTS, FOLLOWED BY ANY AGGRIEVED OR ADVERSELY AFFECTED PARTY THAT HAS COMPLIED WITH SECTION 59.3. EACH WILL HAVE A MAXIMUM OF 30 MINUTES.
ANY OTHER PERSON MAY SPEAK FOR A MAXIMUM OF 3 MINUTES.
THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE ALLOWED CONCLUDING REMARKS FOR A MAXIMUM OF 10 MINUTES.
THE HEARING WILL THEN BE CLOSED AND NO ADDITIONAL TESTIMONY OR ARGUMENT WILL BE ALLOWED.
THE COUNCIL WILL THEN DELIBERATE IN PUBLIC AT THE END OF DELIBERATION.
A COUNCIL MEMBER WILL MAKE A MOTION ON THE APPLICATION TO BRING THE MATTER TO A VOTE.
EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER IS IN FREE TO VOTE IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION.
OR IT IS 2020 2-1 24, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
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BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, CHAPTER 185 ZONING CODE SUBCHAPTER SUBDISTRICT REGULATIONS MODIFYING PROVISIONS RELATED TO MODEL HOMES.PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES.
MY APOLOGIES. THIS IS ONE IN WHICH IT'S NOW FOR THE CITY MANAGER.
THERE IS ACTUALLY NO RESOLUTION FOR ME TO READ.
THIS IS A REQUEST BY RICHARD AND MARGARITA MIRANDA FOR A VARIANCE TO ALLOW THE CUMULATIVE SIZE OF EXISTING AND PROPOSED ACCESSORY STRUCTURES TO EXCEED THE PRINCIPAL STRUCTURES LIVING AREA BY 2060 SQUARE FEET, AS ESTABLISHED BY SECTION 185.118.
SEE PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES.
THIS IS A PROPERTY THAT IS AT 4.08 ACRES.
THE PROPERTY OWNERS WOULD LIKE TO.
THEY HAVE A VARIETY OF ACCESSORY STRUCTURES.
THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET TO MY CLOSE BROTHER.
MY NAME IS RICHARD MIRANDA AND I RESIDE AT 1802 ARDEN LANE.
UM. JUST NOT SO SHARP ABOUT THIS, BECAUSE WHEN I PURCHASED THE PROPERTY ABOUT SEVEN YEARS AGO, MY WIFE AND I HAD IMAGINED BUILDING AN OUTBUILDING BECAUSE I DO WOODWORKING AS A HOBBY.
AND I, YOU KNOW, WE SAVED OUR PENNIES.
I GUESS IF MY HOUSE WERE TWICE AS LARGE, I'D HAVE BE ABLE TO BUILD MORE OUTBUILDING.
BUT THE HOUSE IS KIND OF MODEST.
BUT SO AS IT TURNS OUT, I'M THANKFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PETITION FOR THIS VARIANCE IF POSSIBLE, AND WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? COUNCIL COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A WEDDING VENUE THERE OR YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE.
OH, NO, NO. A BUTCHER SHOP OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? YEAH. NO, NOTHING LIKE.
AND THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS A.
SO THERE'LL BE NO BUSINESS AROUND MY PROPERTY BESIDES YOUR WOODWORKING WOODWORK.
I'VE BEEN DOING IT SINCE I WAS TEN.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, COUNSEL? THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
YOU. BILL BATON 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.
THIS IS ONE MORE INDICATION OF THOSE TIMES WHERE AN ORDINANCE WAS WRITTEN FOR THE AVERAGE LOT IN PALM BAY INSTEAD OF THE RURAL, RESIDENTIAL OR THE AGRICULTURAL LANDS WHERE IT'S NOT UNCOMMON TO HAVE YOUR OUTBUILDINGS LARGER THAN YOUR HOUSE.
MY LIVESTOCK WEIGHS 1200 POUNDS.
SO JUST BY PROPORTIONATELY THEY NEED MORE SPACE THAN I DO.
THIS IS ONE MORE TIME WHERE YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THE ORDINANCE A LITTLE BIT CLOSER.
I'M NOT SAYING REWRITE EVERY ORDINANCE FOR ONE SPECIAL EVENT OR OCCASION, BUT THIS IS LANDOWNERS RIGHTS AND THIS IS WHAT THEY BOUGHT THE LAND FOR. IT SHOULD KIND OF BE GRANTED TO THEM WITHOUT HAVING TO BE IN FEAR THAT I'M NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO ENJOY MY FREEDOMS. LANDOWNER RIGHTS SHOULD BE LANDOWNER RIGHTS.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? SEEING NONE MAYOR.
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I'M IN CERTAIN IN SUPPORT OF THIS TO TO BUILD THAT POINT.I BELIEVE THIS WILL PROBABLY BE THE THIRD APPLICATION, SIMILAR APPLICATION THAT COMES BEFORE THIS BODY TO TO HIS POINT, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF PRECEDENT THAT'S SET FOR A SIMILAR REQUEST.
I'M CERTAINLY IN FAVOR OF IT, BUT THAT MAY BE TIME THAT WE MAY WANT TO, AS A BODY, CONSIDER THAT ORDINANCE AND SEE IF WE CAN MAYBE JUST REVISIT IT. WELL, I'M I'M FOR THAT AS WELL.
SO I'VE GOT I'VE GOT FOUR MEMBERS.
YES. SO, MADAM, MADAM SHERMAN, HOW DO OR SHOULD WE MAKE THIS PART OF THE MOTION TOO? OR JUST YOU GOT THE CONSENSUS ON US MOVING TO SHARPEN UP THAT THAT GIVES US THE DIRECTION.
OKAY, SO I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I ANY OPPOSE PASSES.
HOUSE IS 4 TO 1 WITH COUNCILMAN FOSTER IN THE NAME.
THIS IS 4 TO 1. CONGRATULATIONS, SIR.
ITEM NUMBER THREE OR IT IS 2022.
AN AUDIENCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES.
TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
ZONING CODE. SUBCHAPTER SUBDISTRICT REGULATIONS.
HEREWITH, PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES.
PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
GOOD EVENING. TREY WILLIAMS WITH LGI HOMES.
WE CURRENTLY RESIDE AT 620 MALABAR.
WE ARE IN A RETAIL CENTER DOING BUSINESS AND BUILDING ON SCATTERED LOTS THROUGHOUT PALM BAY.
SO WE WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS, ASKED GREAT QUESTIONS, GOT GREAT, GREAT COOPERATION FROM THE CITY.
AND WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN SUCCESSFUL AT DOING IT, BUT WE JUST WANTED THE ORDINANCE.
SO ALL BUILDERS HAVE TO DO THE SAME THING.
ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT.
TO ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR AGAINST THIS ITEM.
SEEING NONE. I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION SO MOVED.
GOT A MOTION BY A MOTION BY DEP OR COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.
IT NEEDS TO BE CONSISTENT ACROSS THE BOARD.
SO I WHOLEHEARTEDLY APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS TO OUR LIGHT.
SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. THAT'S ALL.
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS. THANK YOU.
I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON OR DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.
COUNSEL AND HE HAD ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION.
MY LEFT SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
GORDON SMITH WARNS 2020 2-1 25, AN AUDIENCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
BROWARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, MEANING THE ZONING ORDERS OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, CHANGING THE ZONING OF PROPERTY FROM A NEW AGRICULTURAL RESIDENTIAL OF OUR COUNTY TO C C COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED NORTH OF AND ADJACENT TO EMERSON DRIVE, THE VICINITY OF ST JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY.
ILLEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN PROVIDING FOR CHANGES THE ZONING MAP PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
MAN. I'M OPENING UP THE PUBLIC HEARING TO ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.
GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL ANNA SAUNDERS WITH BFC CONSULTANTS.
SORRY, I'M SPEAKING THIS LOUDLY AS I CAN.
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YOU COULD YOU COULD RAISE THE.RAISE IT UP MORE. ACTUALLY, ELECTRON.
YES, MA'AM. YEAH, I THINK I WAS THAT TALL, BUT MAYBE I AM GOOD, MA'AM.
IT'S NORTH OF EMERSON DRIVE, AND IT IS DIRECTLY EAST OF THE PARKWAY INTERCHANGE OR INTERSECTION.
AGAIN, IT CURRENTLY HAS A LAND USE OF COMMERCIAL WITH A ZONING REGULATION ON IT.
THAT'S AEW, SO IT'S A PLACEHOLDER.
IT REVERTED BACK SOME 15 YEARS AGO.
IT WILL CREATE A TOTAL OF 60 ACRES OF COMMERCIAL IN THAT INTERSECTION AREA.
MA'AM. SO THIS IS THIS IS UNIQUE TO ME.
LAST LAST, LAST MEETING, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT 198 ACRES.
YES, SIR. AND LOSING 27 OF THEM AND NOT GETTING ANY.
SO. BUT NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 14.
SO IT'S GOT A COMMERCIAL LAND USE UNDERLYING.
SO THE AGRICULTURAL ZONING DESIGNATION IS REALLY, TRULY JUST A PLACEHOLDER.
IT'S A COUNTY ZONING DESIGNATION.
SO, AGAIN, IT ACTS AS A PLACEHOLDER.
SO WE CAN'T REALLY DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN RUN COWS ON IT AT THE MOMENT.
AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE THIS EVENING ASKING FOR THE COMMERCIAL LAND USE ZONING.
THANK YOU, SIR. ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU, MA'AM. YOU'RE WELCOME. HAPPY TO BRING SOMETHING THAT MAKES YOU SMILE.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. ANY SPEAKER CARDS.
OKAY. SO I'M GOING TO CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION SO MOVED AND A MOTION BY OR BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECOND SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX. ANY DISCUSSION, COUNCILMAN? NO, MAYOR. I'M EXCITED TO HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS ADDED TO OUR COMMERCIAL TAX BASE, SO.
I WOULD ECHO THE SAME COMMENT.
SO IT'S GREAT TO SEE THOSE REQUESTS COMING THROUGH.
YES, SIR. AS YOU KNOW, LAST TIME OUT OF 1198 ACRES, ALL I WAS ASKING FOR WAS 27.
SO ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I, I ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
AUGUST 20, 22, DASH 126 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA APPROVING A FATAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO BE KNOWN AS EVERLANE'S PHASE TWO, ALSO KNOWN AS NICOYA IN A NEW AGRICULTURAL RESIDENTIAL BREVARD COUNTY ZONING WITH PROPERTIES LOCATED WEST OF AND ADJACENT TO ST JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY AND VICINITY NORTH OF EMERSON DRIVE.
ILLEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN PROVIDING FOR A COMMENCEMENT PERIOD.
PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.
THAT'S ME AGAIN. ANNA SAUNDERS WITH BFC CONSULTANTS.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
AGAIN, THIS FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING IS THE NEXT PHASE IN THE OVERALL PALM VISTA EVERLANE'S DEVELOPMENT AND IS LOCATED IN THE NORTHEAST CORNER INTERSECTION OF EMERSON AND THE PARKWAY.
EARLIER THIS YEAR, I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT A COUPLE OF KEY POINTS.
EARLIER THIS YEAR, THE DEVELOPER OF THIS PROPERTY COMPLETED THE UTILITY EXTENSION OF BOTH THE WATER MAIN AND THE FOREST MAIN UP THE PARKWAY FROM JUST SOUTH OF THE C-1 CANAL. DRAG IT ALL THE WAY UP TO EMERSON AND MADE THAT INTERCONNECT.
THE PROJECT ITSELF IS APPROXIMATELY 144 ACRES.
IT PROPOSES 398 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, WHICH ARE COMPRISED OF A MIXTURE OF 40 AND 50 FOOT UNITS.
THAT EQUALS A DENSITY OF JUST LESS THAN THREE UNITS AN ACRE.
THE RESIDENTS IN THIS COMMUNITY, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WILL ENJOY A CENTRALLY LOCATED AMENITY FACILITY WITH A CLUBHOUSE AND POOL VIEWS AND VISTAS ACROSS LAKES AND INTO WETLAND AREAS BY WAY OF A THOUGHTFULLY PLANNED OPEN SPACE AND PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.
THE PROJECT IS PLANNED, PROVIDES APPROXIMATELY 40% OF GREEN OPEN SPACE.
JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE DEVELOPMENT COMPONENT.
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THERE ARE TWO PRIMARY VEHICULAR POINTS OF CONNECTION FOR THE PROJECT ONE TO THE PARKWAY TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE LIMITED ACCESS COMPONENT OF THE PARKWAY.AND THEN ONE TO EMERSON DRIVE, JUST TO BRING UP AND I HIGHLIGHTED THIS AT THE LAST MEETING, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT AGAIN, THE EMERSON PARKWAY TRAFFIC SIGNAL ACTUALLY IS GOING TO BE ON YOUR NEXT MEETING AGENDA FOR AWARD FOR DESIGN SERVICES.
THE ANTICIPATED DESIGN PROCESS FOR THAT IS ABOUT 60 TO 90 DAYS FOR THE DESIGN TO BE COMPLETE, AND IT'S ESTIMATED THAT THAT STRUCTURE, THE SIGNAL ITSELF, WILL ACTUALLY BE CONSTRUCTED AND OPERATIONAL BY THE END OF NEXT YEAR, IF NOT SOONER.
WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF UPDATING THE TRAFFIC COUNTS JUST TO GET CURRENT NUMBERS.
WE ANTICIPATE HAVING THAT REPORT COMPLETED BY THE END OF NEXT WEEK AND TURNED IN TO STAFF.
AS SOON AS THAT'S ACCEPTED, WE'LL START WORKING ON OUR PROPORTIONATE FAIR SHARE ANALYSIS SO THAT ANY TRIPS THAT THIS PROJECT CONTRIBUTES TO VARIOUS INTERSECTIONS AROUND THE AROUND THE SURROUNDING AREA WILL BE PROVIDED, PAID FOR BY THE PROJECT.
AND I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW, WE'RE EXCITED FOR THIS NEXT PHASE OF THE PROJECT TO COME UP.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
PROFESSOR. I'M EXCITED, BUT YOU'RE NOT DISCUSSING.
IT IS. AND I'M SURE YOU'RE RIGHT.
WE ARE FLANKED BY COMMERCIAL TO THE SOUTH SO THAT 60 ACRES IS SORT OF NESTLED IN THE CENTRAL AREA OF THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS ANOTHER REASON WHY WE'RE ONLY SHOWING THAT ONE ACCESS TO THE PARKWAY ON THE NORTH SIDE, THERE'S A TWO ACRE COMMERCIAL PARCEL DIRECTLY SOUTH OF US THAT WE ANTICIPATE WILL HAVE A WRITE IN, WRITE OUT.
THERE ARE THERE HAS ALREADY BEEN NEGOTIATIONS AND CONVERSATIONS WITH THE RESIDENTIAL LANDOWNER AND THE COMMERCIAL LANDOWNER SO THAT THERE ARE CROSS ACCESS EASEMENTS BEING PUT IN PLACE TO TRY AND MAKE SURE OUR RESIDENTS HAVE ACCESS TO THESE COMMERCIAL PARCELS WITHOUT HAVING TO GO EXTERNAL TO THE SITE ON THE PARKWAY OR EMERSON.
YES, SIR. JUST WALKING DISTANCE OR.
THAT'S CORRECT. WALKING. OKAY.
YES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR COVERING THAT, BECAUSE I WANTED YOU GOOD WITH THAT.
SAME. SAME. THAT WAS A QUESTION.
ANY QUESTIONS, COUNSEL? THANK YOU. I GUESS WE WERE SURE READING OUR SAME THOUGHTS.
NO, NO, I'M GOOD. YOU ANSWERED ALL MY.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. DEPUTY MAYOR.
AND YOU SPEAK ACCORDS? NO, SIR. NOT. NOT ON THIS SIDE.
OKAY. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION.
SO MOVED. SECOND, I GOT A MOTION BY.
COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.
COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, NOTHING ELSE TO ADD.
MAYOR, YOU HIT IT RIGHT ON THE HEAD.
WHAT I WAS ABOUT TO JUMP ON. SO I APPRECIATE YOU HIGHLIGHTING MS..
SO. COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO ANYTHING.
THANK YOU FOR THAT. THANK YOU FOR THE 40% OPEN SPACE.
THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT I'VE ADVOCATED FOR AS WELL AS AS COUNCIL.
SO THANK YOU. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER SIX.
TWO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT ZONING, WHICH PROPERTIES LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF MALABAR BOULEVARD, BIANCA DRIVE AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN RUNNING THE USE IS A CONDITIONAL USE PROVIDING FOR CONSTRUCTION TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SITE PLAN, PROVIDING FOR A COMMENCEMENT PERIOD, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.
I'M JUST WANTING TO BE ABLE TO GRIND TO BRING A LOT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, ESPECIALLY WITH THE CHILDREN AND A SMALL PRIVATE SCHOOL IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
WE WISH TO HOPE THAT WE BE ABLE TO HAVE THIS FACILITY THERE.
BIANCA, I'M JUST OPEN FOR QUESTIONS.
DO YOU. IS THIS SCHOOL EXISTING NOW? DO YOU HAVE EXISTING STUDENTS OR SOMETHING? STUDENT YES, WE DO HAVE A MELBOURNE CAMPUS.
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SO AGAIN, WE HAVE A MELBOURNE CAMPUS AS WELL.WE HAVE A MELBOURNE CAMPUS, RIGHT? YES. AND YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE STUDENTS FROM THE PALM BAY AREA AND WE HAVE STUDENTS FROM PALM BAY, MOST OF OUR STUDENTS FROM PALM BAY AND MELBOURNE.
OKAY. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. APPROXIMATELY HOW MANY STUDENTS ARE YOU EXPECTING? WELL, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ABOUT MAYBE 50.
SO MOST WE CAN DO IS PROBABLY 80 TO 100.
OKAY. AND I KNOW A TRAFFIC STUDY IS REQUIRED.
THE REASON WHY I ASKED THAT QUESTION IS BECAUSE IN REGARDS TO PINEAPPLE COVE IN THE LAMAR AREA, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL DIDN'T HAVE THE ABILITY OF SEEING BEFORE US AND WE DIDN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO VOTE ON IT BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF STUDENTS THEY'VE HAD THAT INCREASED THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA.
SO I HAD AN IDEA BEFORE YOU DO THE TRAFFIC STUDY WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE OVER THERE.
SO YOU'RE AWARE OF THAT COMMERCIAL OR ANY WAY ON PORT MALABAR? I BELIEVE COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO HAD A QUESTION JUST SAYING.
ARE YOU WILLING TO CAP IN AT 80? I'M NOT SURE. QUESTION ONE MORE TOWARDS STAFF.
WHAT'S THE FIRE MARSHAL SUGGEST FOR STUDENT SIZE? MAYBE IT'S MORE THAN 80.
OKAY. SO ARE YOU WILLING TO MAKE IT A CONDITION TO KEEP IT AT 80? BECAUSE I DO FEEL LIKE IT CAN WORK.
THERE IS A LOOP AROUND THE WHOLE CHURCH THERE.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE LAID OUT BETTER THAN THE PREVIOUS.
SCHOOL, IF YOU WILL. SO, YEAH, IF YOU WILLING TO CAP IT, I'LL PROVE IT.
THANK YOU. I THINK IT'S CURRENTLY A CHURCH NOW.
OR IT WAS BUILT FOR A CHURCH AND.
I DON'T KNOW IF CAPPING IT AT 80 IS IS WE MAY BE STUNTING THE POTENTIAL FOR FOR GROWTH.
RIGHT. IF IF IT WAS BUILT FOR CAPACITY AT 128.
RIGHT. Y YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE COULD STRIKE A SWEET SPOT WITH CAPPING IT AT 100.
COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT? AS LONG AS THE TRAFFIC STUDY COMES THROUGH AND IS THAT I'M FINE WITH THAT.
I JUST DON'T WANT TO REPEAT WHAT HAPPENED TO ME.
YES, SIR. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M AT.
JUST KIND OF LEARN FROM OUR MISTAKES AND IMPLEMENT SOME PLANS HERE.
THAT'S A GREAT THAT'S GREAT FORESIGHT.
YES, SIR. SO JUST JUST A SECOND.
COUNCILMAN FOSTER, I JUST WANT.
WOULD YOU BE WOULD YOU BE OKAY WITH CAPPING IT AT 100? YES. OKAY. OKAY.
YEAH? I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS CAPPING BUSINESS.
NO, I DON'T. I DON'T THINK SO EITHER.
AND. WHAT'S THE FIRE CODE? THE FIRE CODE FOR THAT BUILDING.
WE I DON'T I KNOW WE HAVE THE ALARM SYSTEM ALREADY THERE.
THE UPDATED ONE IS ALREADY IN THERE.
MOST OF THE STUDENTS WILL BE BUSED, SO IT'S NOT WHERE YOU'LL HAVE THE PARENT LOOP.
BUT WE DON'T HAVE A BUS. TRANSPORTATION.
YOU DO HAVE BUS TRANSPORTATION TO BRING IN YOUR STUDENTS.
YES. AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BUILDING CAPACITY OCCUPATION CAPACITY.
OKAY. AND THAT'S A CERTIFICATION FROM THE CITY, RIGHT? ALL OF THE. YES, WE HAVE PUT IN EVERYTHING I'VE DONE, ALL THE PAPERWORK, GIVING ALL THE SITE PLANS AND THE SURVEYS AND DEVELOPMENT LINE DEVELOPMENT WAS ALSO DONE EVEN BEFORE THE PURCHASE OF THE PROPERTY.
RIGHT. AS FAR AS PEOPLE INSIDE THEIR.
YOU CAN. YES, ACCORDING TO THE CODE.
OH, YOU CAN'T GO. IF YOU DO, YOU'LL BE VIOLATING OUR CITY CODE.
I MEAN, WHY ARE WE PUTTING A SCREEN ON A BUSINESS, A SCHOOL IN PARTICULAR? BECAUSE IT MIGHT BE THE REASON WHY YOU PUT INTO SCHOOL.
IT'S A NEED, RIGHT? YES, SIR. THERE'S A NEED. AND I DON'T WANT TO HANDICAP A KID FROM ERNIE.
WE ALREADY GOT A CAP OF OF BUILDING OCCUPATIONS.
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YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THIS BUILDING RIGHT NOW.WHAT'S THE CAP HERE? WE ALWAYS OVERFLOW.
I MEAN, WE VIOLATE OUR OWN CODE, PROBABLY.
BUT SO WHY ARE WE CAPPING THIS BUSINESS? THAT'S WHY I DON'T I DON'T AGREE WITH.
I THINK THE POINT, COUNCILMAN FOSTER, WAS, YOU KNOW, THE STRUCTURE WAS BUILT IN THE SIXTIES.
RIGHT. AND I THINK COUNCIL WANTS TO, YOU KNOW, LOOK OVER, YOU KNOW, THAT TRAFFIC.
WHAT WAS IMPORTANT TO ME TO HEAR FROM OUR APPLICANT WAS THAT THEY BUSED IN THE STUDENTS.
SO THAT THAT TO ME, WHAT WE'RE CONCERNED WITH, LIKE COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO IS IS THE TRAFFIC STUDY CONDUCTED. BUT IF THEY'RE BUSING IN THEIR STUDENTS, THE BUS COMES IN, DROPS THEM OFF.
SO OUR CONCERNS OF CREATING THAT MASSIVE.
BLOCKAGE OF TRAFFIC WOULD BE DEFINITELY SHOULDN'T BE PART OF THE DISCUSSION.
BUT THAT'S HOW THE COUNCILMAN FORCED.
I WAS JUST TRYING TO ANSWER AND GIVE YOU HEIGHTENED AWARENESS OF WHY THE CAP CAME INTO PLAY.
I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU HIGHLIGHTING THE FACT THAT YOU'RE BUSING THE CHILDREN IN.
AND THEN BUT THERE ARE SOME NEIGHBORHOODS IN THERE.
THEY MAY WANT TO HAVE STUDENTS THERE AS WELL.
RIGHT. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE CONCERNED WITH.
IF IT WOULD CREATE A TRAFFIC JAM.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? DEPUTY MAYOR OF THE AFRICAN.
OH, MAYOR, I THINK IT'S A GREAT DISCUSSION.
WE PRETTY MUCH COVER EVERYTHING.
I THINK I'M GOOD WITH THE REQUESTS AS AS PRESENTED.
I DON'T REALLY HAVE MUCH TO ADD.
I THINK IT'S CERTAINLY A PLUS TO THE TO THAT COMMUNITY.
THAT'S THE MOSAIC OF BUILDING THAT CHURCH.
YEAH. SO SO CERTAINLY SOMETHING LIKE THAT WILL YOU KNOW, IT'S A POSITIVE FOR A LONG TIME, THAT CHURCH BEING EMPTY, THAT BUILDING BEING EMPTY. IT'S GREAT TO SEE.
IT'S GOING TO GET, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY A NEW LOOK AND THEN CLEAN UP SOME.
SO I THINK OVERALL, IT'S A POSITIVE FOR THE COMMUNITY.
SO I WELCOME CERTAINLY A PRIVATE CHRISTIAN SCHOOL, I SUPPOSE.
ANY SPEAKER. THANK YOU, MA'AM.
ANY SPEAKER CARDS? DEPUTY MAYOR. NOT FOR THE SIDE.
OKAY, SO I'M GOING TO ANY ADDITIONAL.
YES. IF YOU DON'T MIND, MAYOR, GO AHEAD.
SO WITH THAT 140 PERSON LIMIT, THAT WAS FOR A CHURCH.
BUT IF YOU DO A SCHOOL, THERE'S DESKS, THERE'S CHAIRS, ETC..
SO IS THERE A POSSIBILITY OF THAT NUMBER EITHER INCREASING OR DECREASING BASED ON THE ADDITIONAL STUFF THAT'S GOING TO BE ADDED TO THAT BUILDING? SO I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MEMBER OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT COME UP AND HELP US OUT WITH THAT.
I APOLOGIZE. OR FIRE MARSHALS.
NOT HERE TONIGHT TO COVER THAT, BUT.
FIRST ASSISTANT CHIEF PALM BAY FIRE RESCUE.
THAT DEPENDS ON THE PARTICULAR BUILDING, THE LAYOUT, THE WALLS AND THE DESK ARRANGEMENTS THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE REVIEWED BY THE FIRE INSPECTOR TO PROVIDE YOU AN ACCURATE ANSWER ON THAT.
OTHERWISE, I'D BE SHOOTING IN THE WIND THERE.
ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE LOCATION? I'M NOT. SORRY ABOUT THAT.
ANYTHING FURTHER? ANY ADDITIONAL.
AND HE WILL PUT. WHAT WOULD HE DO AFTER THAT? HE WOULD PUT A OCCUPANCY RATE.
THEY WOULD DETERMINE AN OCCUPANCY RATE.
HOW MANY OCCUPANTS COULD OCCUPY THAT SPACE.
AND SHE CAN'T GO OVER THAT RATE.
CORRECT. SO IT'S KIND OF DICTATED BY THE BY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
IS ANYTHING TO DO WITH TRAFFIC? NO, SIR. ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU. SO YOU WOULD SET THE CAPACITY? YES, SIR. OKAY.
MAYOR. JUST FINAL QUESTION FOR STAFF, FOR THE SPECIFIC FOR THE SPECIFIC PROJECT.
YOUR STAFF WILL REVIEW IT AND SET A NEW OCCUPANCY RATE IF NEEDED.
THANK YOU, SIR. AND THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.
SECOND SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
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COUNCIL COUNCILMAN FOSTER ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION.THAT'S WHY I WAS SAYING ABOUT THE OCCUPANCY RATE.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE CODES, WE HAVE FIRE MARSHALS.
SO THAT'S WHY I WAS MAKING MY POINT.
GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
RESOLUTION 2022 64, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, GRANTING A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A FREIGHT HANDLING AND TRANSPORTATION TERMINAL IN LYE LIGHT, INDUSTRIAL AND WAREHOUSE DISTRICT ZONING, WHICH PROPERTIES LOCATED IN THE VICINITY OF THE SOUTHWEST CORNER, OR DOROTHY FIELDS AVENUE AND NORTH VIEW STREET.
AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, GRANTING THE USE AS A CONDITIONAL USE.
PROVIDING FOR A COMMENCEMENT PERIOD.
PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
KELLY HEFFERNAN, LAND DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIES.
I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT TONIGHT TO DISCUSS THIS CONDITIONAL USE TO ALLOW FOR A SMALL SCALE FREIGHT HANDLING AND TRANSPORTATION TERMINAL AT THIS EXISTING INDUSTRIAL SITE.
CURRENTLY, BEFORE THE PROPERTY WAS PURCHASED, IT WAS A GARBAGE DUMPSTER STORAGE YARD.
SO WE'RE REALLY HOPING TO CLEAN THINGS UP AND MAKE THEM BETTER.
AND THE WAY THAT THAT WOULD WORK IS AT THIS TIME, IT IS A SINGLE 16 FOOT BOX TRUCK THAT WOULD DROP OFF THE PACKAGES AND THEN THEY WOULD BE LOADED INTO THE EXISTING WAREHOUSE BUILDING WHERE THEY WOULD BE SORTED AND THEN PLACED INTO 10 TO 15 SMALLER VANS AND VEHICLES.
IT MIGHT SEEM A LITTLE INTERESTING THAT AN ENTIRE DAY'S WORTH OF PACKAGES FIT INTO A 16 FOOT BOX TRUCK, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF THESE DHL IS THEIR PRIMARY CUSTOMER.
IT'S A LOT OF LETTERS AND ENVELOPES, INTERNATIONAL THINGS, OVERNIGHT LETTERS, PASSPORTS.
SO THEY'RE VERY SMALL, NO PACKAGES IN ANY CASE, OR OVER £60.
AND THE VAST MAJORITY OF EVERYTHING IS £25 OR LESS OR LETTERS IN ENVELOPES.
SO THE SITE IS REALLY ONLY OCCUPIED 25% OF THE DAY.
UPON APPROVAL OF THE CONDITIONAL USE, THE APPLICANT WOULD UTILIZE THE SITE AS IT EXISTS, BUT HAS FUTURE PLANS TO IMPROVE THE SITE WITH A COVERED PACKAGE TRANSFER AREA, A CANOPY AND POSSIBLE LONG TERM PLANS OF A SMALL BUILDING EXPANSION WHICH THEY WOULD MEET ALL SITE PLAN CRITERIA AT THAT TIME.
IN THIS CASE MEETS AND WILL CONTINUE TO MEET THOSE CONDITIONS IN THE FUTURE.
APPROVAL OF THIS CONDITIONAL USE WILL LEAD TO IMPROVED ESTHETICS OF THE SITE.
THIS USE IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE AREA AND WILL BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR.
WE DID HOLD A COMMUNITY MEETING ON OCTOBER 26TH.
WE RECEIVED ONE PHONE CALL AND WE HAD ONE PERSON IN ATTENDANCE WHO IS THE PROPERTY OWNER TO THE SOUTH, AND THEY REQUESTED THAT WE INSTALL SHRUBS ALONG THE EAST PROPERTY LINE AND THAT WE LIMIT OUR OUTGOING DELIVERY OPERATIONS ONLY BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 6:30 A.M.
THERE IS ONE CORRECTION I DO WANT TO MAKE ON THE MEMORANDUM THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU.
WE AGREED TO LIMIT THE OUTGOING DELIVERIES BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 6:30 A.M.
AND 9:00 PM, AND I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD.
THERE ARE SOME CASES, THOUGH, WHERE WE MIGHT NOT HAVE CONTROL OF WHEN THE 16 FOOT BOX TRUCK COMES AND MAKES THAT DROP OFF, JUST LIKE A WALMART OR ANOTHER RETAIL ESTABLISHMENT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE CONTROL OVER THAT.
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SO WE DID AGREE TO LIMIT THE OUTGOING DELIVERIES WHERE ALL THE STAFF COMES IN BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 6:30 A.M.AND 9 P.M.. RIGHT ALONG THAT SAME VEIN, MA'AM, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THOSE DELIVERIES.
RIGHT. AND THOSE THOSE COMMERCIAL VEHICLES GOING IN AND OUT.
RIGHT. PERHAPS LIMIT THE WAY THEY DRIVE INTO NEIGHBORHOODS.
PERHAPS THEY SHOULD NOT GO INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND GO OUT TO THE COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR.
YEAH. THEY COULD REALLY MAKE THE CONNECTION, CORRECT? THEY COULD EASILY MAKE THAT TURN AND GO INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, RIGHT? YES. AND I WILL MAKE NOTE OF THAT.
WE DO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE COMPANY HERE AS WELL.
IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ON BUSINESS OPERATIONS, THAT THAT WOULD BE MY MY CONCERN THAT, YOU KNOW, TO LIMIT THE TRAFFIC GOING FOR THAT COMMERCIAL, THERE'S A COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR THAT THEY MAY BE ABLE TO USE EVEN IF THEY HAVE TO GO AROUND THE BALLOT.
RIGHT. AND NOT CUT THROUGH IS ALL I'M THINKING.
OKAY. YES. AND THEY HAVE NO PLANS ON CREATING ANY MORE DRIVEWAYS TO DOROTHEA FIELDS.
THEY'RE GOING TO KEEP THE NORTH VIEW DRIVEWAY, AND THAT'S ALL.
RIGHT. IT'S ONLY SO IN THE MORNING, YOU'LL HAVE 10 TO 15 VEHICLES LEAVE TO GO MAKE THE DELIVERIES.
AND THAT'S NOT REALLY A MAJOR IMPACT ON THOSE ROADWAYS.
IT'S ACTUALLY A VERY SMALL SCALE OPERATION.
IT'S NOT AN AMAZON OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
I SEE. ALTHOUGH WE WOULD WELCOME AN AMAZON AT ANOTHER LOCATION.
JUST. JUST SAYING. JUST WANTED TO SAY.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
OH, THANK YOU. AND I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM THE OPAQUE FENCE.
WILL IT BE FACING DOROTHEA FIELDS? THAT IS WHAT STAFF HAS TOLD US IS REQUIRED.
YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. JUST CONFIRMING.
YES. COUNCILMAN FOSTER? YEAH. THANK YOU FOR COMING IN TO PALM BAY.
YOU KNOW, FOR THE LAST 12 MONTHS, I'VE BEEN COMPLAINING.
THEY'RE OUTSIDE OF MELBOURNE, WHICH I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THAT HAPPENED.
THEY LOVE DRIVING IN PALM BAY FOR SOME REASON.
YES. AND HOW MANY JOBS THAT'S GOING TO CREATE? APPROXIMATELY 12.
I HOPE YOU OUTPACE FEDEX AND AND AMAZON.
YES, MAYOR. MS.. CONNIE MCCLARY.
MAYOR MEDINA, DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON AND.
CASTLEMAN JOHNSON, COUNCILOR FOSTER AND COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.
GOOD EVENING. HOW ARE YOU ALL DOING TODAY? GOOD NIGHT, MS.. KELLY.
KELLY SAID SHE HAD A MEETING FOR THE COMMUNITY.
I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
I WISHED I WOULD HAVE KNOWN ABOUT.
BY ME BEING THE PRESIDENT OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH.
BUT ANYWAY, ON BEHALF OF THE MEMBERS AND RATHER THAN A POWERFUL SUBDIVISION THERE OF THE GREAT THE GREAT CONCERN ON THE DECISION TO ALLOW REZONING OF THE PROPERTY TO CONDITIONAL USE TO ADDRESS THEIR TRANSPORTATION AND FREIGHT BUSINESS, THE PRIOR OWNERS NAY, NAY, NAY, THE ROOFING COMPANY HAD NO REAL IMPACT ON COMMUNITY AS FAR AS NOISE AND ENTER AND LEAVING SAID PROPERTY. DHL PLANS TO USE.
TO USE PROPERTY TO DELIVER AND TRANSPORT FREIGHT PACKAGES AND LETTERS WITH 16 FOOT TRUCKS AND 10 TO 15 VANS, ASSORTED VEHICLES IN OUR RESIDENTIAL AREA, WHICH WILL BRING A LOT MORE VEHICLE TRAFFIC NOISE.
OF THE VEHICLE ENTERING AND LEAVING PROPERTY DURING THEIR PROPOSED WORK HOURS OF 6:30 A.M.
WE POWER IS ASKING FOR THE FOLLOWING STIPULATION ON THEIR CONDITIONAL USE FOR ZONING PERMIT, CHANGE THEIR WORK HOURS FOR TRUCK TRANSPORT AND ONLY WITHIN THE HOURS OF 8 A.M.
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B OFF RJ COLIN INSTEAD ON NORTH VIEW STREET.DON'T READ THE FEAR. THEY'LL READ THE FEAR.
THAT WOULD KEEP BUSINESS TRAFFIC OUT OF OUR COMMUNITY.
BE PLACED FACING DON'T BREATHE THE FIELD ADJACENT PROPERTY TO ELIMINATE THE NOISE IN OUR COMMUNITY AS WE ALREADY HAVE PUBLIC WASTE SERVICES PLUS 58 GARBAGE TRUCKS STARTING UP AT 6 A.M.
SO WHATEVER THE OUTCOME OF THIS AGREEMENT IS, WE ARE ASKING FOR THE SAME FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
AND I KNOW IN THE BEGINNING WHEN THEY FIRST CAME THERE, IT WAS A PROBLEM.
THEY WAS PARKING ON THE SIDE OF THE STREETS INSTEAD OF PARKING IN THE FENCE THEY EMPLOY WERE.
BUT NOW I SEE THAT THEY HAVE BEEN PARKING IN THE FENCE.
SO MY CONCERN ALSO, AS THEY BUILD THIS, GROW WHERE THEY APPLAUD YOU, IS GOING TO PARK.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER SPEAKER CODES FOR THIS FOR THIS ITEM.
MADAM APPLICANT, WOULD YOU LIKE TO REBUT? SO A COUPLE OF THE CONCERNS THAT I HEARD.
AND WE REALLY THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE A LOW INTENSITY USE.
THE SITE IS ONLY ABOUT AN ACRE.
SO EVEN ANY FUTURE BUILDING EXPANSION, IT WOULD JUST MEAN MORE STUFF HAPPENING INDOORS.
YOU WON'T SEE WHAT YOU SAW THERE BEFORE IN TERMS OF RESTRICTING THE OUTGOING TO 8 A.M.
TO 8 P.M.. THAT JUST DOESN'T WORK FOR A DELIVERY COMPANY.
SO WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO STICK FROM THE 6:30 A.M.
EVEN IF THEY BROUGHT IN A FEW MORE EMPLOYEES.
THERE'S SO MUCH UNUTILIZED LAND THERE THAT THERE REALLY ISN'T ANY ISSUE OF OVERFLOW PARKING.
SO THERE'S THE 10 TO 15 VEHICLES ON SITE.
THE EMPLOYEES COME IN AND THEY SWITCH VEHICLES AND LEAVE.
SO WE DON'T WE DON'T FEEL LIKE THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH THE AMOUNT OF PARKING THAT'S ON SITE.
AND WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
SO SHE COVERED 16 FOOT TRUCKS.
OH, ALSO, I WANTED TO ADDRESS THE COMMUNITY MEETING.
WE DID SEND OUT INVITATIONS TO EVERYONE WITHIN 500 FEET, INCLUDING RESIDENTS OF THAT HOA.
BUT WE DID. WE DID NOTICE THEM.
SO TRAFFIC GOING THROUGH NORTH VIEW TO R.J.
CONLAN, I THINK SHE MEANT FROM THE PROPERTY TO CREATING A CUT THROUGH RIGHT TO R.J.
CONLAN. I DON'T THINK THAT'S POSSIBLE, BUT WE ABSOLUTELY WOULD DIRECT OUR TRAFFIC, I THINK.
WAS THAT WHAT YOU WERE REFERRING TO, MA'AM? YES, MA'AM. I GOT YOU.
OKAY. YEAH. WE DON'T WE DON'T TOUCH R.J.
CONLAN. WE DON'T HAVE A WAY TO DO THAT.
BUT OUR TRAFFIC IS GOING TO GO NORTH, NORTH DUE TO R.J.
CONLAN, WHICH THEN IS OPEN TO THE REST OF THE WORLD.
I'LL BE THAT THE PALM BAY WORLD.
YEAH. THAT WAS PARTLY WHY I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AS LONG AS YOU GO INTO THE COMMERCIAL SIDE.
ABSOLUTELY. WE'RE GOOD WITH THAT.
I THINK THAT COVERED MOST OF HER QUESTIONS THAT I THAT I GOT.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS THE APPLICANT OR COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
UM, I THINK SHE'S ANSWERED MY QUESTION.
R.J. CARLISLE. BUT YOU GOOD WITH DEFENSE? YES. YES.
AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS IN THE FUTURE, MA'AM, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT TO ME.
AND WE DID. WE DID SEND OUT NOTICES.
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AND I HAVE A CARD BACK IN MY IN MY BAG, IF YOU'D LIKE.THAT'S OKAY. THE VAN THAT'S GOING TO BE DELIVERED IN THE PACKAGE, THAT'S.
IT'S JUST A REGULAR, NORMAL DELIVERY VAN.
THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. YOU WANT TO COME UP, RYAN, REAL QUICK? GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS RYAN ROBERTS, DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
YEAH. THESE THESE DELIVERY VANS, THEY'RE NOT LIKE THE FEDEX BIG BOX.
SO THESE ARE SMALL CARGO VANS.
CHEVY EXPRESS, FORD TRANSIT, NOT THE BIG UPS, FEDEX THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE TO SLAM THE DOOR IN THE BACK AND DELIVER YOUR PACKAGE.
RIGHT. SO THESE ARE MUCH, MUCH SMALLER VANS.
YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THAT.
AND YOU KNOW THE SPEAKER CHORDS ARE ARE YOU ARE YOU COMPLETED WITH YOUR YOUR COMMENTS, MA'AM? OKAY. OKAY, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 22, DASH 64 WITH THE FOLLOWING STIPULATIONS WORK HOURS TO BE FROM 630 TO 9.
WHAT ELSE? INTEREST IN ELECTRICS.
ENTRANCE AND EXIT TO POUR ONTO RJ COLIN AND NOT INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD FROM NORTH VIEW NORTH AS WELL AS THE OPAQUE FENCE TO BE PLACED FACING DOROTHEA FIELDS.
FEEL SORRY. SO I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
THERE'S NOTHING ELSE OUT THERE THAT COUNCILMAN FOSTER YOU SECOND THE MOTION.
ANY COMMENTS? NO, I THINK I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.
I ANY OPPOSE, SIGNIFY BY SAYING NAY.
AND HE OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
TITLE NINE GENERAL REGULATIONS.
CHAPTER 93 REAL PROPERTY NUISANCES SUBCHAPTER UNSIGHTLY AND UNSANITARY CONDITIONS MODIFYING PROVISIONS RELATED TO UNAPPROVED REAL PROPERTY. PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HERE WITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN A CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDED FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND DEFER TO MS..
I WILL ASK ALEX BERNARD, OUR GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR, TO COME UP AND INTRODUCE THIS ITEM.
IT CAME BEFORE YOU A FEW WEEKS AGO AND IS BACK.
AND SO THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE DEFINITION OF AN IMPROVED AND IMPROVED REAL PROPERTY.
AND SO WHAT HAPPENS OFTENTIMES IS WE BRING A LOT OF TEXTUAL AMENDMENTS BEFORE YOU.
AND THAT IS WHY IT'S BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING AND ALL OF THE INFORMATION IS IN YOUR PACKET.
ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL OF STAFF.
SPEAKER CARDS. DEPUTY MAYOR SIR, WE HAVE QUITE A FEW OF THEM.
MAYOR WE'LL START WITH MR. JACK SPEER, FOLLOWED BY MS..
THE APPOINTEE BEFORE THE SPEAR.
THANK YOU. MY NAME IS JACK SPARROW.
5205 BABCOCK STREET, PALM BAY.
I REPRESENT THE OWNER OF THE MATRIX GOLF COURSE, JOY LLC.
MY CLIENT OWNS THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 200, A LITTLE MORE THAN 200 ACRES THROUGH LIKE MANY OF THE COURSES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, GOLF COURSE HAS BEEN CLOSING DOWN. THEY HAVE NOT BEEN SUPPORTED.
SOME MUNICIPAL COURSES OPERATE, BUT PRIMARILY THEY OPERATE AT A LOSS.
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THAT'S THE SAME PROBLEM THAT'S OCCURRED WITH THIS SITUATION, WITH THIS GOLF COURSE HERE.UNDERSTANDABLY, THE RESIDENTS ARE UPSET.
I UNDERSTAND THE CITY IS NOT INTERESTED IN BUYING IT.
THE RESIDENTS ARE INTERESTED IN BUYING IT, BUT IT'S BEEN OPERATING AT A SIGNIFICANT LOSS.
THE RESULT OF THE GOLF COURSE CLOSING DOWN.
THAT RESULTED IN CODE ENFORCEMENT CITING MY CLIENT FOR VIOLATION OF THE GRASS CUTTING ORDINANCE.
IT PROVIDED THAT THE NEW ZONING AND OUR ZONING ARE EXCLUDED FROM THAT.
BASED UPON THAT, THE VIOLATION WAS DRAWN.
MY UNDERSTANDING, AND I JUST RECENTLY FOUND OUT THAT AS A RESULT OF PRESSURE BY THE RESIDENTS, THE CITY NOW IS SEEKING TO TO AMEND THIS ORDINANCE TO DELETE G, THERE'S PROPERTIES OWN G, G, Q, AND RR THAT IS NO LONGER A PROVISION WHERE WHERE THE RESIDENTS WOULD THEY WOULD STILL HAVE TO CUT THE OR THEY WOULD HAVE TO CUT THE GRASS AS IF IT WAS IMPROVED AS OPPOSED TO HAVING EXCLUSION UNDER THE G R.
SO BASICALLY, BASED UPON THIS CHANGE, MY CLIENT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN.
CUT THE ENTIRE 200 PLUS ACRES TO A HEIGHT OF NO MORE THAN 12 INCHES.
THE COST WOULD BE THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS EACH CUT.
THE AMENDMENT IS DIRECTED SQUARELY AT MY CLIENT.
THIS IS NOT NORMALLY WHEN YOU DO CERTAINLY HAVE AN ORDINANCE.
IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A CITY WIDE TYPE OF THING AND AND GENERALLY AFFECTS EVERYTHING IN THIS.
THIS IS DIRECTED DIRECTLY TO MY CLIENT.
IT'S NOT GOING TO BRING THE GOLF COURSE BACK.
MY CLIENT CAN NO LONGER SUPPORT THE GOLF COURSE, EVEN THOUGH SHE'S TRIED IT.
WE BELIEVE THAT THIS IS GOING TO CAUSE MORE PROBLEMS THAN IT'S GOING TO RESOLVE.
CERTAINLY, THERE'S AN ARGUMENT CAN BE MADE THAT IT IS AN EXISTING USE UNDER THE EXISTING CODE AND THAT NOW THE CITY IS CHANGING THAT USE BY REQUIRING RATHER THAN HAVING US CUT ALONG THE PERIMETER OF THE PROPERTY FOR 15 FEET.
SO WE BELIEVE THERE'S AN ARGUMENT WHERE THERE'S A NON CONFORMING USE UNDER THE EXISTING CODE.
IMPROVE PROPERTY. YOU DON'T HAVE TO CUT THE ENTIRE PROPERTY.
I THINK THAT BRINGS IN THE ISSUE OF MANY LANDOWNERS, LARGE LAND OWNERS THAT HAVE DIFFERENT PROPERTY THAT HAVE TEN, 15, 20 ACRES, THAT MAY BE A JGU OR AN R ZONING. ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY MAY BE REQUIRED TO CUT THEIR ENTIRE PROPERTY.
THERE HE IS OUR ARE BY TO LEADING THIS.
HE CAN BE REQUIRED TO CUT ENTIRE PROPERTY TO A HEIGHT OF NO MORE THAN 12 INCHES.
SO I THINK THERE'S UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES IT AFFECTS THE THE.
THIS WENT BEFORE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD WHICH APPROVED IT.
MY CLIENT WAS NOT MADE AWARE OF IT.
WE'RE NOT GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPEAR BEFORE.
PLANNING AND ZONING TO OPPOSE IT AND VOICE OUR CONCERNS.
WE THINK. REQUEST THAT THIS THIS BE DENIED.
HELLO. HEATHER JOYNER, 337 FIVE BAYSIDE LAKES BOULEVARD.
AS MANY OF YOU ARE AWARE, I AM THE OWNER OF THE MAJORS GOLF COURSE PREVIOUSLY.
AS JACK WAS JUST STATING, THERE'S THERE'S BEEN SO MANY CHANGES GOING ON LATELY AND.
SORRY. I LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT.
TRYING TO CHANGE THE LANGUAGE ON THIS IS GOING TO CAUSE ME EXTREME UNDUE HARDSHIP.
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WHEN I CLOSE THE BUSINESS, WHICH I SUNK MY HEART AND SOUL INTO.BUT WHEN I FINALLY HAD TO CLOSE THE BUSINESS, I THEN WAS CLOSING UNDER THE PRETENSE THAT I WAS GOING TO BE ABLE TO JUST MAINTAIN THE PERIMETER AT A CERTAIN AMOUNT. AND NOW WITH THIS PROPOSED CHANGE THAT'S SUDDENLY COMING THROUGH, I'M GOING TO NOW BE REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN THE ENTIRE PROPERTY OF 200 ACRES DUE TO THE THE ZONING, WHICH IS.
AND WE PLEASE SILENCE OUR PHONES.
THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE IS ASKING TO REMOVE THE GIU AND REZONINGS FROM THE CURRENT CODE, WHICH WILL ALLOW ME TO MAINTAIN THE COURSE AS I HAVE BEEN FOR THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS.
AND I'M JUST ASKING THE COUNCIL TO.
I BELIEVE THEY'RE COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY.
I BELIEVE IT'S COMPLETELY AIMED AT ME.
THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE.
SO I'VE SUNK EVERYTHING INTO THIS.
OKAY, WELL, IF I WAS GOING TO SELL IT.
OKAY. WHERE'S THE OFFERS? I HAVE NO OFFERS. PLEASE DIRECT.
I'M SO SORRY. AND I'M GOING TO PLEASE PLEAD WITH THE AUDIENCE TO SHOW COURTESY AND RESPECT.
IT'S JUST ALL OF THIS IS CAUSING SO MUCH HARDSHIP ON ME.
AND I KNOW THEY DON'T CARE, BUT I'VE SUNK EVERYTHING ALL MY RETIREMENT INTO THIS, TRYING TO MAKE IT SUCCESSFUL AND NOBODY CARES.
THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO DO EVERYTHING TO MAKE ME HAVE TO.
SPEND EVERY OUNCE OF EVERYTHING.
THIS IS JUST IT'S A HUGE HARDSHIP TO TRY TO CHANGE THIS.
I MEAN, I CLOSED DOWN SO I WOULD HAVE STOP.
I COULDN'T AFFORD IT. AND, YOU KNOW.
I'M SORRY. I CAN'T EVEN PAY ATTENTION WITH ALL THIS.
I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY. YOU'RE EMOTIONAL.
EVERYONE'S GOING TO GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AS WELL.
I'M. I'M ASKING THE AUDIENCE TO PLEASE SHOW RESPECT.
LET'S BE COURTEOUS TO ONE ANOTHER.
WE MAY WE MAY DISAGREE ON ON ISSUES, BUT LET'S.
CARRY ON, MA'AM. REQUIRING ME TO HAVE TO MAINTAIN THE 200 ACRES SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE A NICE BACKYARD. IT'S JUST CRAZY TO ME.
THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY ISSUES WITH IT.
I'VE BEEN DOING MAINTAINING EVERYTHING.
AND NOW THIS ISN'T GOING TO REQUIRE JUST ME.
THIS IS GOING TO REQUIRE ANYONE WITH G ZONING WITH OUR ZONING FARMERS HUNTING CAMPS.
I KNOW I'M NOT THE ONLY GQ OR OUR ZONED PROPERTY IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BUT IT'S GOING TO CAUSE HUGE HARDSHIPS ON ANYBODY THAT'S IN THE SAME POSITION.
AND I JUST ASKED THE COUNCIL TO VOTE NO AGAINST ANY CHANGE IN LANGUAGE.
SALVO, PHILIP COCHRAN AND MARY RAMSEY.
BEFORE I START, I APOLOGIZE, BUT DOES NOT EVERYBODY GET 3 MINUTES IN THIS OR WHY? WELL, I WAS UNDER THE SAME IMPRESSION, BUT I WENT TO THE CITY CLERK AND MADAM CLERK, WOULD YOU WANT TO RESPOND? THE TIME LIMITS ONLY APPLY TO PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS THAT ARE RELATED TO LAND DEVELOPMENT ISSUES.
THIS ITEM DOES NOT FALL UNDER THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
THEREFORE, THERE IS NO TIME LIMIT.
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SO I CAN SPEAK FREELY.I APOLOGIZE. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.
CITY COUNCIL STAFF. MY NAME IS ALVARO LA PUENTE, AND I LIVE ON 2031 BROOK DRIVE.
I MOVED TO BAYSIDE LAKES FROM SOUTH FLORIDA SIX YEARS AGO, AND IT WASN'T UNTIL THE LAST YEAR THAT WE, LIKE MOST PEOPLE HERE, HAVE WITNESSED THE UNFORTUNATE DEGRADATION OF A COMMUNITY DUE TO THE LACK OF MAINTENANCE OF THE FORMER GOLF COURSE.
WE'RE NOT HERE TO ARGUE TO MAINTAIN THE GOLF COURSE.
THAT WAS THE OWNER'S DECISION.
AS RESIDENTS, WE'RE EXPECTED TO MAINTAIN OUR PROPERTIES AND ABIDE BY THE RULES OF THE CITY.
WHEN IT COMES TO LAWN MAINTENANCE, SHOULD WE LET OUR LAWN GO OVER THE MANDATED HEIGHT? WE WILL GET BOMBARDED WITH LETTERS REGARDLESS OF WHERE THE OVERGROWTH IS WITHIN OUR PROPERTY.
LOTS, WE WOULD EXPECT IMPROVE COMMERCIAL LOTS WHO PLAY BY THE SAME RULES.
THE CURRENT RULES CALLS FOR MAINTAINING THE PERIMETER OF THE LOT.
THE EXTENT OF MAINTENANCE SINCE THE COURSE SHUT DOWN IN JUNE HAS BEEN OF ONE SINGLE OCCURRENCE, JUST ONCE IN WHICH A RESIDENTIAL MOWER WAS SENT TO MOW 42 INCHES OF THE PERIMETER.
THAT IS ALL A RESIDENTIAL MOWER, NOT EVEN A COMMERCIAL ONE.
THAT WAS A LAUGHABLE SLAP IN THE FACE TO THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
SINCE THAT ONE OCCURRENCE, NO FURTHER ATTEMPTS HAVE BEEN MADE TO KEEP UP WITH THE MAINTENANCE.
THERE IS NO PERIMETER MAINTENANCE HAPPENING.
IT IS COMPLETELY RUN DOWN AGAIN.
WE, THE RESIDENTS, ARE EXPECTED TO ABIDE BY THE RULES, SO LET'S ENFORCE THE RULES EVENLY.
WE WILL NOT LET EVENTS OF THE PAST SHAPE BAYSIDE LAKES.
WE WANT EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM TO REMEMBER THAT THIS IS NOT 2004.
WE ARE ENDLESSLY DEFENDING OUR COMMUNITY AND WE ARE SIMPLY ASKING FOR EQUAL RULES.
THANK YOU. MR. COCHRAN. PHILLIP COCHRAN.
GOOD EVENING. SO, CORCORAN, 1878, WIND BROOK DRIVE.
THANK YOU TO ALL MY FRIENDS IN RED THAT SHOWED UP.
THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR THE CITY.
I HAVE A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION, IF WE COULD BRING THAT UP NOW.
SO MISS JOINER HAS SAID THAT SHE IS BEING.
HE SHE HAS FINANCIAL PROBLEMS WITH THE GOLF COURSE.
I'VE LIVED IN BAYSIDE LAKES SINCE 2008, 14 YEARS.
I'VE NEVER SEEN THIS MANY FOR SALE SIGNS ON OUR STREET.
AND ALL THAT TIME PEOPLE ARE LEAVING.
I SPOKE TO THREE PEOPLE THAT ARE INTERESTED IN BUYING A GOLF COURSE JUST TODAY.
ONE OF THEM IS IN NEGOTIATIONS TO BUY THREE NEW GOLF COURSES.
JUST LOOK AT THE HABITAT FOR POPPY WILL TELL YOU, YOU CAN'T GET A TEE TIME OVER THERE.
OKAY, SO GETTING BACK TO THE POWERPOINT, SO THE EXODUS CONTINUES.
MOVING VANS ARE IN ON OUR STREET WEEKLY, IF NOT DAILY.
GARBAGE IS BEING DISCARDED ON THE PROPERTY.
THIS IS THE VIEW FROM BAYSIDE LAKES BOULEVARD.
ISN'T IT BEAUTIFUL? IF MY HOUSE LOOKED LIKE THAT, I WOULDN'T LOOK LIKE THAT VERY LONG BEFORE THE HOH WOULD START TO MOW IT.
AND LOOK WHAT LOOKS LIKE WOODED AREA.
THIS IS THE VIEW FROM THE STREET.
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IN LESS THAN TWO AND A HALF YEARS, JOY LLC HAS DESTROYED A BEAUTIFUL ARNOLD PALMER DESIGNED GOLF COURSE, ALONG WITH ALL OUR PROPERTY VALUES.THE SIGN IS GONE, BUT AT LEAST THE GRASS IS BEING MOWED BY BAY SIDE LEGS PLAY.
TRYING TO MAINTAIN A GOOD IMAGE FOR THE CITY IN OUR COMMUNITY.
WE ALL SEE DOES NOT CARE ABOUT PALM BAY OR BAYSIDE LAKES.
IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THE PROPERTY FORMERLY KNOWN AS JOE DADDY'S IS BEING NO MODE AT THIS TIME.
THERE ARE TOILETS IN THE BATHROOMS. OUT ON THE GOLF COURSE THAT HAVE NEVER BEEN LOCKED UP, WHICH YOU SOMEWHAT UNSANITARY IN THERE.
I WOULDN'T WANT TO GO IN THERE.
SO JUST JUST TO BE CLEAR, OUR CITIZENS GROUP IS NOT GOING AWAY.
LC LLC IS TAKING THE CROWN JEWEL OF PALM BAY AND TRANSFORMED IT INTO AN EYESORE.
THE SINGLE AND SINGLE HANDEDLY DESTROYED THE THRIVING GOLF COMMUNITY, REDUCED OUR PROPERTY VALUES IN BAYSIDE LAKES BY TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS INDIVIDUALLY AND BY HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS IN TOTAL.
I HAVE SPOKEN TO THREE GENERAL MANAGERS.
ASKED MANAGERS OF THE GOLF COURSE, AND THEY ALL SAID THAT THEY WERE TURNING A PROFIT.
I HAVE HEARD SOME ASTRONOMICAL NUMBERS, AS WE HEARD EARLIER IN THIS.
PLEASE DO THE RIGHT THING FOR THE PEOPLE OF PALM BAY.
IT'S MARIE RAMSEY, FOLLOWED BY DANIEL COCHRANE.
HERE ARE YOU MARY RAMSEY, FOLLOWED BY DANIELLE COCHRAN.
EVENING, EVERYONE. MARIE RAMSEY, 1878, WIND BROOK DRIVE, PALM BAY, FLORIDA.
AS I TOLD YOU A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO.
I CAME HERE ONLY BECAUSE OF THE GOLF COURSE.
I GOT MARRIED TO SOMEBODY WHO LOVES GOLF.
FIRST OF ALL, I HAVE A QUESTION.
I OFFERED TO DONATE THREE FLAGS.
WELL, I'M GOING TO GET THIS OFF MY CHEST FIRST.
I CANNOT GET ANYONE TO TELL ME HOW BIG OF A FLAG YOU NEED.
YOU HAVE MANAGED TO REDUCE THE ASSESSMENT OF EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN.
WE EVEN MADE THE NATIONAL NEWS FOR OUR PROPERTIES FOR ONE OF THE 20 TOP. CITIES IN THE UNITED STATES FOR OUR PROPERTIES TO BE DESTROYED ON OUR NATIONAL NEWS.
WE KNOW WHAT CONTRIBUTED TO THAT.
I NEED YOU TO GO BACK OUT THAT DOOR AND COME UP THE FRONT.
I SAID PALM BAY HAS EVEN MADE THE NATIONAL NEWS WHERE THE PRICE OF HOMES HAS ACTUALLY FALLEN.
THE GOLF COURSE WAS BOUGHT REALLY EIGHT TIMES MORE.
YOU'VE DONE THIS ON THE BACKS OF EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN PALM BAY, NOT JUST US IN BAYSIDE LAKES.
PERHAPS. YOU SHOULD READ MATTHEW 19 THROUGH 24.
MY IRISH GRANDMOTHER USED TO SAY ILL GOTTEN MONEY WILL NEVER SERVE YOU.
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MA'AM, IF YOU REALLY WOULD LIKE TO DONATE THE FLAGS AND GET INFORMATION, MR. FRED POPPY, WOULD YOU RAISE YOUR HAND, SIR? PLEASE, MA'AM.I'M JUST SAYING, IF YOU'D LIKE TO GET THAT DETAILED INFORMATION, PLEASE SEE.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR MEDINA, DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO FOSTER AND JOHNSON.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU TONIGHT IN SUPPORT OF ORDINANCE 22 2022, DASH 119, WHICH WOULD AMEND THE CODE OF ORDINANCES CONTROLLING REAL PROPERTY NUISANCES.
FOUR LESSONS THAT I LEARNED EARLY IN LIFE.
NUMBER ONE TREAT PEOPLE THE WAY YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE TREATED.
NUMBER TWO, BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR NEIGHBORS.
NUMBER THREE, FOLLOW THE RULES.
JOYNER, EXPLOITED TO HER ADVANTAGE AND TO THE DETRIMENT.
I WANT TO THANK THE DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY, RODNEY EDWARDS, FOR HIS WORK ALONGSIDE MS..
OTHER FACILITIES IN PALM BAY THAT ARE DUE IN OUR.
I THINK THE ORDINANCE, AS AMENDED, HITS THE TARGET AND WILL CLEAR THE WAY FOR THE FAIR ENFORCEMENT OF THE NUISANCE ORDINANCE AGAINST THE 190 ACRE BLIGHTED PROPERTY THAT ADJOINS MINE.
I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOU TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 2020 2-1 19.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK.
THE FORWARD. MY NAME IS FLORIDA HOLBERT.
I LIVE AT. 2322 PLANTER RIDGE COURT, SOUTHEAST PALM BAY.
WE BOUGHT OUR HOME OR BUYING OUR HOME SINCE 2018.
AND. THE GOLF COURSE IS SOMETHING THAT I HAVE.
I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO PLAY YET BECAUSE WHEN I CAME HERE I WAS IN RECOVERY.
AND WAS GIVEN SOME REALLY OFF THE CUE INFORMATION ABOUT HOW NOT TO TAKE CARE OF IT. I WAS ALWAYS TAUGHT TO TAKE CARE OF YOUR RESPONSIBILITIES AND DO THE THINGS THAT ARE RIGHT.
YOU DON'T MISUSE OTHER PEOPLE.
YOU DON'T TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SITUATIONS.
WE DID NOT BUY OUR HOME HERE TO TURN AROUND AND SEE OUR CITY, WHICH IS BEING CALLED THE BEST CITY IN THE UNITED STATES, AND I WOULD SAY THE BEST CITY IN THE WORLD, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I EXPECT IT TO BE.
WE DO NOT WANT OUR PROPERTY VALUES BROUGHT DOWN.
WE DON'T WANT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD OR OUR CITY.
SO TO THE GROUP THAT HAS DECIDED NOT TO TAKE CARE OF THAT PROPERTY, PLEASE THINK ABOUT IT.
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SYSTEMS. DO NOT MAINTAIN IT.WOULD YOUR CITY ALLOW YOU TO GET AWAY WITH IT? AND WE DON'T THINK THAT THIS GROUP SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO GET AWAY WITH IT EITHER.
WE THINK THAT THEY NEED TO BE HELD RESPONSIBLE TO TAKE CARE OF THIS PROPERTY.
SO IF YOU ARE NOT WILLING TO TAKE CARE OF IT, DON'T ALLOW THE GREED TO CHOKE YOU.
AND TRY TO GET MORE MONEY OUT OF IT THAN WHAT IT WAS INITIALLY WORTH.
AND BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOT TAKEN CARE OF IT, IT IS NOT WORTH THAT.
WHOEVER SAID THAT THIS GOLF COURSE WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO BE BROUGHT BACK TO ITS STANDARDS.
NOW. MY ENDING IS I BELIEVE THAT GOD WANTS THE RIGHT THING DONE.
THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WISHES? ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR? AGAINST THIS ITEM. PLEASE STAND UP.
THE FORWARD. ANYONE ELSE AFTER HER? OKAY, YOU'RE NEXT.
HOWEVER, IF THE GOLF COURSE ISN'T MAINTAINED, NOT A GOLF COURSE.
IF THE PROPERTY ISN'T MAINTAINED.
I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF PROPERTIES AROUND THE CITY THAT ARE BEING CLEARED AND HOMELESS PEOPLE HAVE GONE INTO THE INTO OTHER AREAS WHERE IT'S WOODED.
GOOD EVENING. I JUST WANTED TO SAY MY HUSBAND AND I MOVED HERE THREE YEARS AGO.
WE WERE AT 1891 BROOK DRIVE RIGHT ON THE GOLF COURSE.
MY NAME IS MONIQUE BREWSTER PRITCHARD.
AND IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL PLACE TO BE.
RIGHT BEFORE IT WAS, WE WERE THERE A YEAR BEFORE THE GOLF COURSE WAS GIVEN UP.
AND NOW IT LOOKS LIKE A FOREST.
AND WE MOVED HERE BECAUSE WE HAVE FRIENDS HERE THAT SAID, IT'S THE GREATEST CITY TO BE AT.
WE MOVED FROM UP NORTH AND WE WANTED TO BE HERE AND WE ALSO WANTED TO TAKE UP GOLF.
THERE'S NO PLACE IN PALM BAY TO GOLF.
WE'RE LIVING RIGHT ON THE GOLF COURSE THAT IS NOW A FOREST.
I'VE READ MANY ARTICLES NOW THAT PALM BAY IS ON THE TOP TEN LIST OF PROPERTY VALUE DECLINE.
I'M SURE NOT HAVING THE GOLF COURSE IS PART OF IT.
I WANT. SOMEONE NEEDS TO BUY THE PROPERTY, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, IT HAS TO BE MAINTAINED.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO COME AND SPEAK? STEP FORWARD, MA'AM.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
YES. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS PATTY GARCIA.
I LIVE IN 1986 WIND BROOK DRIVE.
UNLIKE A LOT OF MY NEIGHBORS, I DON'T KNOW HOW FOR MY NEIGHBORS BECAUSE I AM A WORKING MOM.
THE REASON WE MOVED TO THAT, TO THE SUMMERFIELD AREAS, BECAUSE MY FIANCE WANTED US TO BE IN A GATED COMMUNITY BECAUSE HE TRAVELS A LOT FOR WORK.
WE DID WE LOVE OUR WE LOVE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
BUT BECAUSE OF WHAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW.
A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, I CAME HOME WHILE MY SON CALLED ME, SAYING THAT THERE WAS A HE WAS COMING IN THROUGH THE GARAGE BECAUSE FROM SCHOOL THERE WAS A BIG SNAKE, A HUGE SNAKE.
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AND I SHOWED IT TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE ASSOCIATION.YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SELL AND I UNDERSTAND I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT, YES, THEY NEED TO MAKE A PROFIT, BUT THEY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SELL TO SOMEBODY ELSE AS A GOLF COURSE. SO AGAIN, I'M SPEAKING AS A MOTHER AND CONCERN, AND I KNOW A LOT OF NOT EVERYBODY THAT LIVES HERE AS A RETIREE.
WE WORK AND WE WORK LONG HOURS.
SO THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO TO BRING UP.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
OKAY. I SEE YOU GENTLEMEN RAISING HIS HAND.
GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS ROBERT CLARK.
I LIVE AT 882 MORNING CULP CIRCLE.
I LIVE AT THE INTERSECTION OF 17 AND THE 12TH HOLE.
THE OWNER HAS NEGLECTED THIS PROPERTY.
NUMBER ONE, SHE DUG UP ALL THE SPRINKLERS.
THERE'S HOLES. SHE DID NOT FILL IN THE HOLES.
SO IF A CHILD OR ANYBODY ELSE GOES OUT ON THAT GOLF COURSE.
NUMBER TWO, SHE DID NOT CUT ANYTHING.
I HAVE MY BACK YARD AND MY SIDE YARD.
THE ONLY SIDE YARD IS THE HOE CUTS IT BECAUSE SHE WON'T DO IT.
THE. MY PERCEPTION IS SHE HAS MADE MONEY.
THE LAST DEVELOPER THAT HAD IT MADE MONEY.
SO THERE'S NO REASON WHY SHE DIDN'T MAKE MONEY.
I WAS I WAS SORT OF INFORMED THAT SHE HAD HER FAMILY ON THE PAYROLL.
YOU NEED TO LOOK AT HER FINANCIAL.
AT RECORDS. SHE SAYS SHE'S LOSING MONEY.
PROVE IT. A SET OF FINANCIAL RECORDS.
AND THERE'S BEEN PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BUY IT.
CHEAP. SHE BOUGHT IT FOR 2 MILLION.
LET'S SAY SOMEBODY WANTS TO BUY IT FOR 4 MILLION.
THAT'S A THAT'S A GOOD PROFIT.
IT'S $2 MILLION PROFIT, NOT $16 MILLION.
IF SHE BOUGHT IT FOR TO MAKE A PROFIT, THAT'S A BAD BUSINESS.
THAT'S A BAD BUSINESS DECISION.
ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S A GOLF COURSE.
I NOTICE THE CHAMBER OF A CHAMBER OF COMMERCE WOMAN EARLIER GAVE A SPEECH.
IF WE LOSE THIS GOLF COURSE IN PALM BAY, SHE CANNOT SHE'S GOT TO TAKE THAT OFF HER WEBSITE.
THERE IS NO THERE WILL BE NO GOLF COURSE.
WHO'S GOING TO MOVE HERE WHEN THERE'S NO GOLF COURSE.
I MOVED HERE FOR THE GOLF COURSE.
THAT'S THE ONLY REASON I MOVED HERE.
AND I WAS FORTUNATE THAT THEY MOVED TO GOLF HOLES OVER TO THE NEXT COMMUNITY AND SPACE OPENED UP AND I BOUGHT WHAT I CONSIDERED A PRIME LOT.
THEN I MET THE DEAD END OF THE CUL DE SAC, AND I HAD THE FULL VIEW OF THE GOLF COURSE TO THIS.
TEN ATVS OUT THERE RUNNING AROUND, NOT GOLF CARTS, ATVS, EVEN A SIX PASSENGER ATV.
AND KIDS OUT THERE RIDING BICYCLES.
IF ONE OF THOSE KIDS HIT THAT HOLE THAT SHE DELIBERATELY TOOK OUT THAT SPRINKLER.
WE'VE GOT TO RESPECT THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY.
ONE HOUSE IN MY WHEN I BOUGHT MY HOUSE, I WAS TOLD THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPER.
THE CONCEPT OF THE GOLF COURSE WAS EITHER A GOLF COURSE OR FIVE ACRES, ONE HOUSE.
THERE SHOULD BE NO EXCEPTIONS.
HOW DO YOU PUT 300 AND MORE HOMES HERE? YOU CAN'T DO IT.
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AND THE ROADS.SO YOU'RE JUST YOU'RE PUSHING EVERYTHING ON THE ROADS.
AND IF YOU PUT MORE HOUSES IN THERE, YOU'RE GOING MORE THAN THE FIVE ACRE LOTS, ONE HOUSE.
THE PROBLEM IS WHO WANTS TO BUY A FIVE ACRE LOT IN ONE BUT ONE HOUSE? NO ONE. THERE'S THERE'S A CUSTOMER RIGHT THERE.
NO ONE. WELL, HE'S RAISING HIS HAND.
THERE'S A CUSTOMER RIGHT THERE.
YEAH. WITHOUT GUARANTEE NUMBER ONE, THE LOT WILL PROBABLY BE.
I GET THAT. THAT'S NOT BEFORE US TODAY.
OKAY. THE FIVE ACRE LOT THAT YOU'RE MENTIONING.
IN OUR HOA COMMUNITY, NOT THE HOUSES.
THE OTHER. LONG IN THE COMMUNITY.
WE TAKE CARE OF OUR COMMUNITY.
SHE SHOULD TAKE CARE OF HER BUSINESS.
BILL BATMAN 586 OCEAN'S PLACE SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.
THE FIRST QUESTION IS THIS IS THE FIRST TIME.
BECAUSE I WOULD QUESTION THIS REPEATEDLY ON HOW TO SPEAK FOR MORE THAN 3 MINUTES ON AN ITEM.
IT CHANGED MY ENVIRONMENT TO SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT THERE.
THE DONUT WAS WHERE THE ATVS WERE RIDING BEFORE.
THEY'RE NOW COMPLAINING ABOUT THE ATVS RIDING ON THE ACREAGE THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN THERE.
THAT'S ALSO WHAT'S HAPPENING OUT WHERE I LIVE ON A DAILY BASIS.
THEY'RE TRESPASSING ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.
LET'S START LOOKING AT SOME OF THE VIOLATIONS THAT THE PEOPLE ARE MAKING.
THAT'S IN OUR OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
IT'S THE NEW CATEGORY OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
LANDOWNER RIGHTS HAVE TO BE RECOGNIZED.
SOMETHING TO HAPPEN. DONORS RIGHTS.
ALL RIGHT. I DID LOOK AT THE ORDINANCE AS CHANGED.
I'M ONE OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT IT MIGHT HAVE AN IMPACT ON BECAUSE MY ACREAGE IS IMPROVED.
I DON'T MOW ALL OF MY PROPERTY BECAUSE I RUN LIVESTOCK.
IT COULD HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON ME.
I'D HAVE TO LOOK REAL, REAL CLOSE ON THAT BECAUSE IT COULD AFFECT A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE.
RIGHT. A STATEMENT OF SAYING WE HAVE NO PLACE TO GOLF ANYWHERE IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
I DIDN'T SEE THESE RESIDENTS WHEN THE FIRST GOLF COURSE WAS GETTING SHUT DOWN.
I DIDN'T SEE THEM STEPPING UP FOR THOSE PEOPLE'S RIGHTS AND TRYING TO PROTECT THEM.
CARRY ON. THE NEXT GOLF COURSE WOULD GO DADDY'S GOLF COURSE.
THAT ONE HAS JUST BEEN CHANGED.
THAT LAND'S BEEN CHANGED ALSO.
AND THEY DID CHANGE AN ORDINANCE, I MEAN, CHANGE THE LAND USE.
INDIVIDUALS ARE SAYING THERE'S NO PLACE TO GOLF.
I AGREE THERE MIGHT NOT BE A PLACE TO GOLF WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS OF PALM BAY.
FOR YEARS AND YEARS SINCE 1987, I POINTED OUT THE FACT THAT IF YOU WANT TO RIDE A HORSE WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, UNLESS YOU'RE ON YOUR OWN PROPERTY, YOU HAVE TO TRAILER OUT OF THE CITY LIMITS TO RIDE YOUR HORSE OR BE ON YOUR OWN PROPERTY.
YOU MIGHT HAVE TO BUY YOUR OWN PROPERTY OR TRAVEL TO A SITE WHERE YOU CAN DO IT.
WHAT'S IN THE LAST ONE WAS? BOTTOM LINE LANDOWNER RIGHTS.
I DON'T LIKE SEEING WHAT'S HAPPENING TO THE GOLF COURSE.
I SUPPORT WHAT I WOULD PREFER TO SEE THAT BAYSIDE LAKES HAD A GOLF COURSE, BUT I DON'T WANT TO SEE MOB RULE DICTATE ON HOW LANDOWNERS RIGHTS ARE ABUSED BECAUSE OF RULE OF MOB.
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THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR.UM, I'M ABOUT TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
SO IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK? OKAY, MA'AM. I DON'T LIVE THERE, BUT MY NAME IS EILEEN SAPP.
I LIVE WHERE THE PORT MELBOURNE PORT MALABAR COUNTRY CLUB WAS.
BUT I ALSO WORKED FOR THE PGA AND FOR SEVERAL GOLF COURSE MANAGEMENT COMPANIES.
I BELIEVE THAT SHE HAS SOME OPTIONS, IT LOOKS LIKE.
SHE WANTS IT TO BE SOLD BROKEN DOWN FOR DEVELOPMENT, HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.
I'M ABOUT TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK.
SEEING NONE. I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I'M ASKING FOR A MOTION SO MOVED.
AND MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON. IT'S NOTHING REALLY ELSE TO ADMIRE.
I DON'T. AND I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU COME FROM, MR. BATTEN, BECAUSE IT IS ABOUT PROPERTY RIGHTS FOR EVERYBODY.
SO MOVING FORWARD, I SUPPORT THIS.
SO THAT'S THE ONLY THING I HAVE TO SAY ON THAT PART.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, WITH MY PROPERTY, I HAVE TO MAINTAIN IT THE SAME TOO.
SO I THINK THIS I THINK THIS IS FAIR.
THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON.
FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T THINK THE RED SHIRTS IS A MOB.
I THINK THEY ARE CONCERNED CITIZENS, THAT CONCERN ABOUT THE RESIDENTS.
I SEE YOU AS A CONCERNED CITIZEN.
AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT YOUR RESIDENTS, TOO.
NIC ROBERTSON, I SAID I SAID WE SHOULD LISTEN TO THE RED SHIRTS.
I'VE BEEN LISTENING TO YOU BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE YOU LIVE.
YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WANT YOUR NEIGHBORS GRASS.
I DON'T WANT MY NEIGHBOR GRASS TO BE TWO FEET HIGH.
SO I DON'T I DON'T WANT I WOULDN'T WANT THAT.
AND I WOULD GO TO THEM AND SAY, HEY, YOU NEED TO CUT YOUR GRASS OR I'M GOING TO CUT IT FOR YOU.
AND I'D BE VIOLATING SOMEBODY'S PROPERTY RIGHTS.
BUT YOU ALSO VIOLATE MY PROPERTY RIGHTS BY NOT TAKING CARE OF YOUR PROPERTY RIGHTS.
COURT ORDINANCE IS THE LAW OF THE CITY.
AND IF WE NEED TO CHANGE IT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE DO THE RIGHT THING, THEN THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
SO THAT'S WHY I SECOND THIS EMOTION.
THE RED SHIRTS IS RULING ME BY SHOWING UP.
WHAT THEY'RE SAYING TO ME IS THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE PALM BAY.
THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE CITIZEN.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M LISTENING TO YOU AND I LISTEN TO THE OWNER.
DON'T INVEST MONEY, THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET A GOOD RETURN ON THE ONLY INVEST.
YOU'RE GOING TO INVEST SOMETHING.
INVEST. YOU'RE WILLING TO LOSE THAT.
TAKING A CHANCE AND WILLING TO LOSE THAT MONEY IF IT DON'T TURN OUT PROPERLY.
SO. WE NEED TO PASS THIS ORDINANCE AND DO THE RIGHT THING.
COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO, WOULD YOU LIKE TO WEIGH IN AT THIS POINT? THANK YOU, MAYOR. I JUST HAD A QUESTION FOR STAFF HERE.
THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN ELABORATE ON THAT, PLEASE.
THERE IS A DEFINITION OF NONRESIDENTIAL FARM BUILDING WITHIN THE STATUTE.
THE INTENTION WAS TO INCORPORATE THAT DEFINITION, WHICH I'LL READ SO THAT WE WEREN'T INCLUDING FARM AREAS OR AREAS THAT HAVE BARNS OR SIMILAR ITEMS. THE DEFINITION THAT IS PROVIDED BY STATUTE FOR THAT IS NOT A RESIDENTIAL FARM BUILDING MEANS ANY TEMPORARY OR PERMANENT BUILDING OR SUPPORT
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STRUCTURE THAT IS CLASSIFIED AS NON RESIDENTIAL FARM BUILDING ON A FARM UNDER FIVE 53.73, SUBSECTION TEN C OR THAT IS USED PRIMARILY FOR AGRICULTURAL PURPOSES, IS LOCATED ON LAND THAT IS AN INTEGRAL PART OF A FARM OPERATION OR IS CLASSIFIED AS AGRICULTURAL LAND UNDER ONE 93.4 61 AND IS NOT INTENDED TO BE USED AS A RESIDENTIAL DWELLING.THE TERM MAY INCLUDE, BUT IS NOT LIMITED TO A BARN, A GREEN HOUSE, SHADE, HOUSE, FARM OFFICE, STORAGE BUILDING OR POULTRY HOUSE.
SO MANY OF THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE TYPICALLY WOULD USE.
AS FAR AS BARNES AND THINGS RELATED TO EITHER AGRICULTURE OR HAVING SOME OF THE TYPE OF LIVESTOCK ON IT WOULD NOT MAKE THEIR PROPERTY SUBJECT TO THE IMPROVED LOT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM ATTORNEY.
IS THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER? NOT. FOUR CITATIONS FOR REMOVING THE TIMELINE THAT PROHIBITS THE CITY FROM CITING AN UNIMPROVED REAL PROPERTY OWNER NO MORE THAN ONCE EVERY SIX MONTHS. SO HOW OFTEN WOULD THE CITATION OCCUR? SO ESSENTIALLY THAT JUST CHANGES THE PRIOR LANGUAGE SO THAT WE WE FOR THIS KIND OF THING, WE RESPOND BASED ON COMPLAINTS.
AND SO WE WOULD CITE IF IF WE WEREN'T OVERSTEPPING THE ORDINANCE.
ALL RIGHT. SO IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THAT IF THERE'S A COMPLAINT EVERY DAY AGAINST THIS PROPERTY, THAT SHE COULD BE CITED EVERY DAY? WELL, ONCE YOU'RE CITED, YOU GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, THERE IS NOTIFICATIONS THAT OCCUR AND THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES TO RECTIFY THE SITUATION THAT THE OWNER IS GIVEN AND THEN ULTIMATELY GOES TO THE CODE BOARD AND AND ON FROM THERE. ALL RIGHT.
CITY MANAGER IS THERE ANY CODE VIOLATIONS? JUST A SECOND, COUNCILMAN.
I YIELD MY TIME TO COUNCILMAN. OKAY.
SO YOU'RE OKAY? YOU'RE COMPLETE.
THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY CODE VIOLATION ON THIS PROPERTY? AS WE SPEAK. LAST I CHECKED, THERE WERE NOT.
BUT I WOULD HAVE TO HAVE STAFF GO AND PULL.
OKAY. HAVE THE PROPERTY BEEN INSPECTED BY THE CODE ENFORCEMENT? WELL, I THINK PART OF THE HISTORY OF WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT IS THERE WAS A COMPLAINT ABOUT THE CURRENT MAINTENANCE.
AND SO WE DID INSPECT FROM A TALL GRASS AND WEEDS KIND OF REASON.
BUT UNDER CURRENT ORDINANCE, IT COULD NOT BE CITED.
COUNCILMAN FOSTER. DEPUTY MAYOR.
MAYOR. THANK YOU. I THINK COUNCILWOMAN FILIBERTO BROUGHT THE VERY QUESTION THAT I WAS THINKING OF.
THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD, I WOULD SAY IT'S PROPERTY RIGHTS IS MULTIPLE REFERENCE.
PROPERTY RIGHTS. PROPERTY RIGHTS IS GREAT.
BUT ONCE YOU START IMPEDING ON OTHERS PROPERTY RIGHTS, SO IT BECOMES A PROBLEM.
SO AND I DO UNDERSTAND AND I SEE IT ON A DAILY BASIS.
EVERY EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP, I LOOKED AT MY BACK PATIO THROUGH MY BACK PATIO.
YOU KNOW, AS MUCH AS I WANT TO SYMPATHIZE TO TO TO THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.
AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS MULTIPLE PROPERTY, MULTIPLE ATTEMPTS TO TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY.
SHE'S SAYING, NO, I'M HEARING A LOT OF YESES.
SO. SO WHAT I WOULD ENCOURAGE IS TO ENGAGE.
LET'S FIND AN AMICABLE SOLUTION.
BUT AS OF TONIGHT, I WOULD SUPPORT THAT.
UNFORTUNATELY, I WOULD SUPPORT THAT.
WELL, I THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR.
MY COMMENTS ARE ARE GOING TO BE VERY SIMILAR TO YOURS.
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AND THAT IS THAT IS AN ISSUE I DO WANT TO ADDRESS SOME COMMENTS ABOUT BACK IN 1987, AND THAT WAS REFERRED TO THE HOLE IN THE DONUT.AND WE DO HAVE AN ACTIVE RESIDENT.
I GOT HERE IN 1988 AS A YOUNG, YOUNG PERSON THAT WAS RELEASED FROM ACTIVE DUTY ON THE MARINE CORPS.
CAME AND IT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD BY BEN JEFFRIES.
THIS YOUNG MAN. YES, I'M STILL YOUNG.
WAS ELATED OVER WHAT WAS ABOUT TO TAKE PLACE IN OUR CITY.
I WAS ELATED BECAUSE AS YOU ALREADY KNOW, BAYSIDE LAKES, THAT DEVELOPMENT REALLY.
SPRUCED UP THE ENTIRE CITY OF PALM BAY.
I DO LOVE THE IDEA OF OF HOW THAT BAYSIDE LAKES WAS DEVELOPED.
SO I WOULD BE SUPPORTING THIS.
I'VE GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON THINKING OF MY COUNCILMAN FOSTER ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
BEFORE WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER NINE, GENTLEMEN, I'D LIKE TO TAKE A TEN MINUTE RECESS.
I'M GOING TO CALL THIS MEETING BACK TO ORDER.
WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER NINE.
AND I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.
THIS IS RELATED TO THE DENIAL OF CASE Z 44 TO 2022.
IF YOU RECALL, THIS WAS THE ALLEGRA PROPERTY.
THIS IS A LITTLE UNUSUAL FOR THE CITY AS FAR AS HAVING THIS QUASI JUDICIAL.
ORDER, BECAUSE TYPICALLY, IF COUNSEL WERE GOING TO DENY A REZONING, IT WOULDN'T GET THAT FAR.
YOU WOULD DENY THE LAND USE THIS PROPERTY ALREADY HAD THE LAND USE.
SO ALL THERE WAS WAS A DENIAL OF A REZONING.
AND PURSUANT TO STATUTE, SPECIFICALLY SECTION ONE 66.033.
SUBSECTION THREE FLORIDA STATUTES.
AND THIS IS BECAUSE WHEN YOU APPROVE A REZONING.
SO WHEN YOU DENY THE ORDER IS HAS TO BE CREATED.
SO WHAT I HAVE BEFORE YOU IS A PROPOSED ORDER THAT I HAVE DRAFTED BASED UPON A REVIEW OF THE OF THE MEETING AND THE ISSUES THAT WERE BROUGHT FORTH AS FAR AS THE GROUNDS.
COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE IS THAT WHICH IS SUFFICIENT, SUFFICIENTLY RELEVANT AND MATERIAL THAT A REASONABLE MIND WOULD ACCEPT IT IS ADEQUATE TO SUPPORT THE CONCLUSION REACH.
CONCLUSORY TESTIMONY OR FACTUALLY INACCURATE TESTIMONY IS NOT COMPETENT, CONSTITUTE COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE, AND THE RECOMMENDATION OF A PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD CONSTITUTES COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.
IF THEIR DECISION IS BASED UPON A CONSIDERATION OF COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.
SO BASED UPON THOSE FACTORS AND A REVIEW OF THE RECORD, I HAVE PROVIDED THE PROPOSED.
I. PROVIDES FIVE DIFFERENT BASES FOR THE THE ORDER.
KEEP IT IN MIND THAT, OF COURSE, ALL DEVELOPMENT MUST BE CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND IT IS THE LAND OWNER OR THE APPLICANT WHO HAS THE BURDEN OF PROOF TO SHOW THAT THEIR APPLICATION COMPLIES STRICTLY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE LAND
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DEVELOPMENT CODE.THE FIRST BASIS THAT IS CITED.
AND I WILL TELL YOU BEFORE I GET INTO THEM, MOST OF THESE ARE BASED UPON THE TESTIMONY OF THE APPLICANT'S EXPERT, THEIR TRAFFIC ENGINEER.
MANY IN RESPONSE TO QUESTIONS BY THE MAYOR.
BUT IT'S THE SO THERE WAS EXPERT TESTIMONY AND IT'S THE APPLICANT'S EXPERT.
SPECIFICALLY E-1.51 RELATED TO CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT.
THE APPLICANT FAILED TO PROVIDE COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS NEEDED ON THE SEGMENT OF MALABAR ROAD NEAR THE SITE ARE INCLUDED IN THE FIRST THREE YEARS OF THE APPLICABLE ADOPTED FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FIVE YEAR WORK PROGRAM.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. THE SECOND IS THAT IT WOULD AS REFERS TO TCE ONE DASH, ONE RELATED TO THE TRANSPORTATION ELEMENT WHICH REQUIRES THE MAINTAIN ROADWAY LEVEL OF SERVICE AT OR BETTER THAN ALL ADOPTED LEVEL OF SERVICE STANDARDS.
AS THE TESTIMONY WAS THAT THE ROADWAY IS CURRENTLY DEFICIENT AND THERE IS NOT A THERE IS EITHER NOT A PLAN OR THERE'S NOT ACTUAL FUNDING TO PROVIDE THE CORRECTIONS THAT WOULD BRING THE ROADWAY UP.
THAT THE APPELLANT TESTIFIED THAT TO MAKE THE PROJECT VIABLE, THAT THEY WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO EXCEED THE HEIGHT LIMITATIONS.
AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CITED IS FLU 2.3 A RELATED TO THE LAND USE ELEMENT, AS THERE ARE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOMES ABUTTING THE SITE ON BIDDLE STREET, AND THERE ARE NO STRUCTURES WITHIN THE IMMEDIATE SITE THAT ARE THREE STORIES.
THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATION SHOULD CONTINUE TO CONTAIN PROVISIONS TO ENSURE THAT LAND USE IS SURROUNDED BY AND OR BUT IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS ARE NOT IN CONFLICT WITH THE SCALE, INTENSITY, DENSITY AND CHARACTER OF THE RESIDENTIAL AREA.
OR IT IS A PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD THAT DID A PUBLIC HEARING AND, AFTER CONSIDERING THE EVIDENCE PRESENTED, RECOMMENDED THE APPLICATION FOR REZONING TO BE DENIED AND FIVE CONSIDERS THE FACTORS IN SECTION 185 201, SUBSECTION C IN PARTICULAR, THE NEED AND JUSTIFICATION FOR THE CHANGE.
SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE JUSTIFYING THE CHANGE WHEN CONSIDERING THE SITE WAS REZONE IN MAY 2022 AND THE TESTIMONY THAT IT WILL LIKELY BE ONE YEAR BEFORE THE APPLICANT TAKES ANY ACTION ON THE PROJECT.
ANOTHER BASIS IS AN ALTERNATIVE BASIS.
THERE UNDER THE LAW IS THAT YOU FIND THAT THERE IS NO COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT THE APPLICANT HAS MET ITS BURDEN OF PROVING CONSISTENCY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
ALTERNATIVELY, EVEN IF CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, A ZONING COULD BE DENIED IF THE CITY WERE TO ESTABLISH A LEGITIMATE PUBLIC PURPOSE THAT WOULD SUPPORT THE DENIAL.
AND THAT BASIS IS ALTERNATIVELY MAINTAINING THE EXISTING ZONING ACCOMPLISHES A LEGITIMATE PUBLIC PURPOSE BECAUSE IT ALLOWS THE APPLICANT USE OF HIS PROPERTY WITHOUT SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASING THE CURRENT DEFICIENCY OF THE SEGMENT OF MALABAR ROAD NEAR THE SITE WHEN THE AVAILABLE ROADWAY IS INADEQUATE TO HANDLE AN INCREASE IN DENSITY TO THE SITE, AND THERE ARE NO PLANS OR FUNDING TO ADDRESS THE DEFICIENCY ON THE ROADWAY.
SO CERTAINLY NEED COUNSEL'S DIRECTION IF COUNSEL IS OKAY WITH THE.
IF COUNSEL HAS ANY QUESTIONS OR WOULD LIKE FOR ME TO MAKE ANY MODIFICATIONS AND ALSO ANY QUESTIONS OF THE CITY ATTORNEY NO QUESTIONS, MAYOR. BUT I DO FEEL CONFIDENT WITH THIS AS DRAFTED.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ON CNN. I'M GOING TO ASK THE AUDIENCE, ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO.
SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM.
ITEM NUMBER NINE. SEEING NONE.
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I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION.ON MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY MAYOR MEDINA.
I THINK SHE'S SHE SPOKE ON ALL THOSE CHARACTERS IN THAT ORDER.
SO I'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I, I ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
WE ARE NOT GOING ON CONSENT, GENTLEMAN.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
DEPUTY MAYOR AND HE AND HE ARE.ANYONE PULLING CONSENT ITEMS. RIGHT. NUMBER THREE.
ANY OTHERS? AND ANY OTHER CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS YOU WISH TO PULL? SEEING NONE. I NEED A MOTION.
THE CONSENT AGENDA, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF NUMBER THREE AND NUMBER NINE.
SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER THREE.
[3. Contract: Neptune water meters and parts - Utilities Department (Ferguson Waterworks – $1,000,000 (annual estimate, ‘as needed’ basis) (sole source)).]
IT'S A BILL BATON. GILBERT IN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST. SEEMS LIKE JUST A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO THAT WE HADN'T HAD 700 K THAT WE'RE SPENDING FOUR METERS. IS THIS JUST THAT WE'VE EXPANDED SO MUCH THAT WE NOW HAVE MORE METERS THAT WE HAVE TO PURCHASE? THAT'S WHAT IT WAS, BECAUSE THIS ONE'S $1 MILLION AND WE JUST SPENT LIKE 700 MILLION I MEAN, 700,000 JUST A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO.SO IT WAS JUST A CURIOSITY QUESTION ON IS IT JUST BECAUSE OF THE CITY EXPANSION AND NEW METERS? THANK YOU. NO, NO, NO.
MADAM SHERMAN. THANK YOU, MAYOR.
PRETTY QUICKLY, OR WILL IT BE A LONG I KNOW WE'VE HAD SOME TROUBLES WITH MANY DIFFERENT PARTS AND PIECES, INCLUDING METERS, SO WE'VE TRIED TO PURCHASE MORE.
EARLIER AND NOT WAIT AS WE USED TO, BECAUSE IT TAKES SO LONG.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. I NEED A MOTION.
SO MOVE. AND A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.
ALL IN FAVOR I ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER NINE.
[9. Consideration of amending Chapter 3, Compensation, of Council's Policies and Procedures, by increasing the monthly incidental expense allotment. (Councilman Foster)]
MR. BATTEN. GO BACK IN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST CONSENT AGENDA MEANS IT AUTOMATICALLY PASSES IN FAVOR WITHOUT A PUBLIC DISCUSSION.I DON'T THINK THE PUBLIC IS AWARE OF THIS.
THAT IS WHY I PULL SO MANY SEE A ITEM SO THEY HAVE TO BE DISCUSSED IN THE SUNSHINE.
THE PUBLIC VOTED NOT TO INCREASE YOUR PAY.
IN FACT, IT WAS A 70% AGAINST.
SO THAT'S WHAT THE PUBLIC THINKS YOU'RE WORTH.
SO IN THE DARK OF NIGHT, YOU TRY TO GIVE YOURSELF A 400% INCREASE, RANGING FROM 4.8 THOUSAND TO $6000 IN YOUR EXPENSE ACCOUNT.
THIS IS NOT TRANSPARENT GOVERNMENT.
THIS WOULD HAVE PASSED WITHOUT THE PUBLIC KNOWING THAT THAT'S WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.
MY 401I CAN'T SPEAK AND I'M JUST TALKING WITH OTHERS HAS DECREASED BY OVER 40% IN THE LAST YEAR.
SO YOU NEED MORE MONEY TO ENTERTAIN ON.
BUT OUR RETIREMENT FUNDS THAT WE HAVE TO SPEND TO PAY OUR TAXES WITH IS DECREASING.
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SO WHAT CONSTITUTES WHAT GOES ON CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS AND WHAT DOES NOT GO ON? OR IT COULD HAVE BEEN COVERED UNDER NEW BUSINESS OR SOMETHING ELSE LIKE THAT INSTEAD OF UNDER CONSENT, WHERE IT WOULD HAVE AUTOMATICALLY BEEN PASSED WITHOUT THE PUBLIC KNOWING YOU'RE GIVING YOURSELF A PAY RAISE.THANK YOU. IT'S MARIE COCHRAN.
FOLLOWED BY RANDALL OLSZEWSKI.
WELL, CAN WE CAN WE GET A RESPONSE TO THE.
WHAT DETERMINES THE CONSENT IN.
AS FAR AS THE CONSENT AGENDA, ANY COUNCIL MEMBER THAT PUTS AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA, THAT IS THEIR PERSONAL DECISION, WHERE THEY WANT TO PUT IT UNDER CONSENT OR IF IT GOES ON A NEW BUSINESS ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.
COUNCILMAN FOSTER DID REQUEST THAT IT BE PLACED UNDER CONSENT.
AS BILL BATTEN SAID, THE VOTERS HAVE SAID NO TO THE INCREASE.
AND I'LL ACTUALLY HAVE TO DISAGREE WITH HIM, BECAUSE MY PERCENTAGE SHOWED THAT 71% OF THE VOTERS SAID NO TO THAT. WHEREAS HE SAID 70.
AND HE ALSO I ALSO HAD THE SAME QUESTION AS TO WHY THAT WAS NOT ON THE REGULAR AGENDA.
I PERSONALLY WOULD HAVE PREFERRED THAT IT WAS PRESENTED ON A REGULAR AGENDA RATHER THAN THE CONSENT AGENDA, BECAUSE THEN IT WOULD HAVE BEEN OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND WE COULD HAVE HAD AN ACTUAL DISCUSSION.
AS MR. BATTEN SAID, YOU KNOW, WITH FOUR WINS GOING DOWN FOR ONE CASE GOING DOWN, AND THE INCREASES THAT WE ARE ALL DEALING WITH, I THINK THAT WAS KIND OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE WRONG TIME TO PUT THAT FORWARD.
GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
RANDALL OLSZEWSKI, 348 BROOK STREET, NORTH EAST.
MADAM CLERK, DID THE JUSTICE OF READING IT INTO THE RECORD? 27,817 VOTED NAY.
11,600 VOTED YAY! THE ILL INFORMED ON GIVING COUNCIL MEMBERS A DOUBLE PAY RAISE, A 100% PAY RAISE.
BUT YOUR LEGISLATIVE MEMORANDUM STATES THAT THE COUNCIL I'M JUST GOING TO FOCUS ON.
COUNCILMEMBER BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT MAYOR RIGHT NOW.
COUNCIL MEMBER SALARY IS 10,900, BUT THAT WAS EFFECTIVE 2016.
YOUR ACTUAL SALARY RIGHT NOW IS 12,351.
BY TRYING TO GET A 100% INCREASE IN $0.20 PER CAPITA, YOU WERE TRYING TO GET YOUR SALARY INCREASE TO 24,000 INSTEAD OF MAKING 1000 A MONTH FOR YOUR VOLUNTEER JOB PART TIME.
AS THE POLICY CLEARLY STATES AS A PART TIME GIG AND SHOULD BE COMPENSATED AS SUCH.
SO THAT'S THE VERY FIRST STATEMENT OF THE SALARY SECTION.
ALTHOUGH YOU TRIED TO GET THE SALARY INCREASE TO 2000 A MONTH, YOU COULDN'T DO IT.
THAT WAS ONE FAIL AS IT WAS REFERRED TO IN THE VICTORY SPEECH.
THE VICTORY SPEECH WAS WE GOT WE GOT SIX OUT OF EIGHT THREE.
WE MISSED ON TWO. BUT THAT'S ALL RIGHT.
SO WHAT DO WE DO ON THE CHARTER CAP AMENDMENT THAT DIDN'T GO THROUGH? WE TRIED TO GET RID OF THE BODY, THAT TRIED TO BRING TO THE COMMUNITY THE FACT THAT THE CHARTER CAP SHOULD STAY IN PLACE, THEN THE NEXT SUBSEQUENT MEETING TO MAKE UP FOR THE OTHER L WE TOOK ONLY TWO OUT OF EIGHT.
LS DID WE TAKE WE SAY THE PEOPLE, 27,000 OF THEM SAID WE SHOULDN'T HAVE 1000 RACE.
LET'S WRITE OURSELVES A $300 RAISE.
SO YOU KNOW WHAT THE L IT'S ONLY 70% OF WHAT WE SHOT FOR.
AND THEN IF THEY'RE SO INCLINED, GO BUY A KID AN ICE CREAM CONE.
I BUY MY WIFE AN EXTRA SET OF FLOWERS FOR ALL THE HOURS I MISS WITH HER.
OR MAYBE AN EXTRA DINNER OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
I'M COME OUT OF SALARY THAT COME OUT OF THE EXISTING INCIDENTAL.
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THAT ARE CRITICAL NEEDS THAT WE MUST OBLITERATE OUR VOTED IN CAP, BUT WE NEED A FEW HUNDRED EXTRA BUCKS EVERY MONTH.ARE YOU KIDDING ME? AND THEN THE AUDACITY, THE GALL TO PUT IT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA NEXT TO LEGITIMATE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS SUCH AS BUYING 50 AIR BOTTLES FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT? DID YOU KNOW IF YOU GET RID OF THIS HOGWASH AND DON'T DO IT, YOU COULD TAKE THAT EXACT MONEY AND JUST BUY THAT BEAUTIFUL FIRE DEPARTMENT ONE AIR PACK A MONTH, 1100 AND CHANGE A MONTH. THAT'S HOW MUCH YOU WANT.
YOU WANT 100 BUCKS RIGHT HERE.
GIVE THEM AN AIR PACK A MONTH.
ONE PACK A MONTH. THEN WE WON'T GET IN THESE SITUATIONS WHERE WE NEED ALL THIS MONEY AT A TIME.
CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS BUYING $1,000,000 WORTH OF TOURNEY VALVES.
IT IS NOT GIVING YOURSELF A PAY RAISE WHEN 24,000 PEOPLE TOLD YOU NO.
YES. EILEEN SEPP FROM 1234 RAILROAD.
RATHER THAN BE WELL, I'M GOING TO BE REDUNDANT.
SO IN AN EFFORT TO CIRCUMVENT THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE, YOU ARE PLANNING TO AWARD YOURSELVES AN EVEN BIGGER SLUSH FUND THAT WILL LIKELY EXCEED THE INCOME BUMP THAT YOU WERE DENIED BY THE PEOPLE YOU PROMISED TO REPRESENT.
THIS IS BOTH AN INSULT AND A SLAP IN THE FACE TO OUR ELECTORATE.
THANK YOU. AND THE OTHER SPEAKERS.
THAT FOR THIS. ASSUMING THE SAME ITEM FOR THIS ITEM.
SORRY. I'M SPEAKING ON AM ITEM.
SORRY. ROBERTS 1796 WHEN WE DRIVE SOUTHEAST, GENTLEMEN, I JUST LOOK AT THIS A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY.
I WAS AT A WAL MART A FEW MONTHS AGO, AND I ASKED THE LADY WHO I WAS GETTING COLD CUTS, AND I SAID, WHAT'S WHAT'S DIFFICULT FOR YOU RIGHT NOW? WHAT'S YOUR CHALLENGE POST AND PRE-PANDEMIC? AND SHE SAID TO ME, THE TOUGH THING TO DO IS PEOPLE ARE COMING OUT AND THEY WANT $3.50 WORTH OF SWISS CHEESE OR $4.75 WORTH OF HAM.
WE'RE IN THE WORST ECONOMY IN 40 YEARS WITH INFLATION.
AND WHEN I SEE PEOPLE STRUGGLE LIKE THAT, THAT TAKES ME BACK.
I PERSONALLY THINK WHAT YOU GUYS DO AND WHAT YOU HAVE TO FACE WITH YOU DEAL WITH PEOPLE LIKE ME.
BUT OPTICS ARE EVERYTHING IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, AND THAT'S JUST NOT THE WAY TO DO IT.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN A HORRIBLE ECONOMY.
BUT AGAIN, IT SENDS THE WRONG MESSAGE.
AND WE RECEIVED THAT AS DOING IT ON THE SLY OR SNEAKING IT.
AND I THINK AS AS FELLOW AMERICANS, WE JUST REPULSED BY SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I AGREE THAT WE NEED TO GET YOU WHERE YOU NEED TO BE.
NOT THE WAY TO DO IT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE.
THAT CONCLUDES THE SPEAKER CARDS FOR THIS ITEM.
AND I'D LIKE TO GET THE LAST WORD.
SO. I WANT TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE COMMENTS.
WHILE PUTTING THIS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
IT WAS MY DECISION TO DO IT, WHETHER I PUT IT ON CONSENT OR NEW BUSINESS OR WHATEVER.
I DIDN'T DO IT AT THE LAST MINUTE EITHER.
DID A WAY BEFORE THE GENDER WAS PUT TOGETHER.
AND. YOU KNOW, IT'S COMMENTS SUCH AS, OH, YOU'RE TRYING TO SNEAK SOMETHING IN.
I DIDN'T HEAR NOBODY SPEAK ABOUT THAT.
WE GOT $167,000 PLUS APPROVED.
25,000. I DIDN'T HEAR NOBODY SPEAK ABOUT THAT.
WAS WE TRYING TO SNEAK THAT PASS OF 15,000 AND FIRE IMPACT FEE?
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WE'RE TRYING TO SNEAK THAT PASS.IT'S ON THE SENATE. ON THIS PIECE OF PAPER.
EVERYTHING ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO SNEAK PAST IS OUT THERE IN THE PUBLIC.
AND YOU COULD COME AND SPEAK ON IT.
SUCH AS THE CITIZEN PULLED IT COULD PULL IT.
AND ANOTHER MISINFORMED STATEMENT.
WE CAN'T GIVE OURSELF A PAY RAISE.
WENT TO A CHARTER REVIEW THAT DECIDED WHAT AMOUNT WAS GOING TO PUT ON THE BALLOT FOR A PAY RAISE FOR THE CITY OF CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR. I DIDN'T SIT ON THAT CHARTER REVIEW.
SO MANY PEOPLE WHO SPOKE DID, AND THEY HAD THEIR SAY.
AND THE VOTERS HAD, THEY SAID.
NOW LET ME. BUT WHAT THEY DON'T SAY THE SPEAKERS DON'T SAY THAT WE HAVE A MONTHLY.
WE'VE BEEN HAVING IT SINCE 2003.
AND SINCE 2004, IT HAS NOT BEEN INCREASED.
YOU CAN FIND IT IN THE COUNCIL POLICY AND PROCEDURE.
THE DEPUTY MAYOR OF PALM BAY GET 150 AND COUNCIL GET $100.
WE'RE NOT THE ONLY CITY THAT HAS THIS EXPENSE.
THE ATLANTIC AND THE EXCUSE ME, INDIA HARBOR BEACH HAS THE EXPENSE.
ON THAT, MAYOR, IS $350 OF EXPENSE.
THE CITY COUNCIL GET TO 50, 150 MORE THAN THIS COUNCIL.
MELBOURNE HAS A THE MELBOURNE COUNCIL HAS THE EXPENSE.
THE MALE MALE BORN GET $415 FOR HIS MONTHLY EXPENSE.
THESE CITIES ARE SMALLER THAN PALM BAY.
THAT'S. $215 MORE THAN THE MAYOR OF PALM BAY.
THE MAIL MELBOURNE GETS $250 FOR THIS MONTHLY INCIDENTAL EXPENSE.
$215 MORE THAN THE MAYOR OF PALM BAY.
THE CITY COUNCIL OF MELBOURNE GETS 100 AND $225.
MORE. THEN THE CITY COUNCIL OF PALM BAY.
SORT OF LIKE BEACH HAS A MONTHLY EXPENSE.
ARE THESE PAY RAISE FOR THEM? SO WHEN? OH, I FORGOT.
COCOA BEACH GETS A $500 MONTHLY EXPENSE.
COCOA BEACH. IT ONLY TAKES YOU 3 MINUTES TO GET IN THE CITY AND 3 MINUTES TO GET OUT.
AND OTHER CITIES HAVE A MONTHLY EXPENSE.
YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT YOUR TAX DOLLARS? THE COUNTY BREVARD COUNTY COMMISSION IS PADIHAM EVERY DAY THE DRIVE FROM THEIR COUNTY OFFICE.
TO THE GOVERNMENT, THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT, BUILDING THEIR OWN PER DIEM EVERY DAY.
AND APPLES WOULD BE A PART TIME JOB.
ALL THE CITIES ARE NAME THAT GETS A MONTHLY EXPENSE IS A PART.
NOW, WHY DID I WANT HER TO INCREASE? UM. IT HASN'T INCREASED SINCE 2004.
I WANTED TO DO THIS BEFORE THE RAISE AND I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO DO IT.
BECAUSE I DON'T CONSIDER THIS A RACE.
IT'S NOT A RACE. IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE.
PUTTING MORE INTO THE RETIREMENT SYSTEM WON'T COUNT AS YOUR HIGH THREE.
SO. THE FACT THAT IT HASN'T CHANGED IN 18 YEARS.
IT'S BEEN $200 FOR THE MAYOR, $100 FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS.
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HASN'T CHANGED IN 18 YEARS.I PAY THE COUNCIL PAY WENT UP IN THE LAST 18 YEARS.
THIS HASN'T CHANGED IN 18 YEARS.
I DO MORE THAN JUST COME TO CITY COUNCIL MEETING TWICE A MONTH.
WE ARE OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY.
WE HAD. PALM BAY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE LUNCHEONS.
WE HAD TWO MEETINGS THIS WEEK.
IT'S BEEN THE MOST ONE OF THE MOST BUSIEST WEEKS FOR THE COUNCIL.
THIS INCIDENTAL EXPENSE COVERS MORE THAN GAS.
AND I DIDN'T CREATE THIS INCIDENTAL EXPENSE.
IT WAS HERE LONG BEFORE I GOT HERE.
SO THAT'S WHY I PUT IT ON THE COUNCIL AND I PUT IT ON CONSENT.
KNOWING THAT SOMEBODY'S GOING TO PULL IT.
AND TALK ABOUT IT. WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A PAY RAISE.
THEY DON'T SAY IN OUR COUNCIL.
UM. POLICIES AND PROCEDURES IS CONSIDERED YOUR RACE.
IT IS NOT TAXED AS A PAY RAISE, A SALARY INCREASE.
SO INCIDENTAL EXPENSE THAT OCCURRED FROM BEING ON THE CITY COUNCIL.
SO. YOU NEED A MOTION, SIR? SO CONTINUE TO DISCUSS.
YES, SIR. THE FIRST THING I WANTED TO SHARE IS I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR BREAKING THAT DOWN FOR US.
RIGHT. I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT WE DO NEED A MOTION FIRST.
I WANTED TO ASK A FEW QUESTIONS.
RIGHT. IF WE MAY MAKE A MOTION AND WE CAN.
OKAY. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE INCREASE OF OUR MONTHLY.
CHAPTER THREE OF OUR COMPREHENSIVE AND COMMON COUNCIL POLICY AND PROCEDURE BY INCREASING OUR MONTHLY INCIDENTAL EXPENSE FOR THE MAYOR TO BE THE MAYOR, THE DEPUTY MAYOR, THE 500 AND THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO 400.
COUNCILMAN FOSTER, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
AND I YIELD MY TIME TO YOU, MAYOR.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
I WANT TO VALIDATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
RIGHT. NUMBER ONE, YOU SAID THAT YOU WERE GOING TO BRING THIS UP BEFORE, AND THAT IS THAT IS FACT.
YOU'RE RIGHT, WE'RE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY A LOT.
THERE'S A LOVE TO THIS POSITION.
AND I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU WHY? BECAUSE AND AND WHAT I WAS SAYING WAS IF COUNCIL WE COULD HAVE GIVEN DIRECTION REGARDING THE RAISE, IF COUNCIL WOULD HAVE AGREED FOR THE NEXT TERM, THEN WE WOULDN'T HAVE AFFECTED US.
IN OTHER WORDS, LIKE DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON OR COUNCILMAN JOHNSON AND COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THEIR SECOND TERM RIGHT THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF THAT NEW SALARY BECAUSE WHEN I TOOK MY OATH, THE SALARY WAS EXACTLY WHAT I KNEW WHEN I RAN.
I WAS THE ONE THAT VOTED AGAINST THE SALARY INCREASE.
I DO AGREE THAT THE OPTICS ARE JUST NOT RIGHT.
NOW, IT IS OUR PREROGATIVE TO PUT THINGS IN ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
BUT I PROMISE YOU THIS I WOULD HAVE PULLED THIS ITEM MYSELF.
AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WOULD HAVE PULLED IT.
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IT'S JUST THE OPTICS ARE HORRIBLE.71% OF THE PEOPLE SAID NO TO THE PAY RAISE.
AND EVEN THOUGH THIS MAY BE WARRANTED, COUNCILMAN FOSTER IS JUST NOT GREAT OPTICS.
AND THAT'S WHERE I'M AT IN THIS NOW.
I THINK WE JUST HAVE TO BE LIKE ALL OUR OTHER CONSTITUENTS.
WE'VE GOT TO TIGHTEN UP OUR BELT AND LET'S MOVE FORWARD.
THANK YOU FOR YIELDING YOUR TIME, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND THANK YOU.
I WAS GOING TO PULL IT AS WELL.
I KNOW FOR ME AND MR. BATTEN KNOWS, I PUT MY ITEMS ALWAYS ON NEW BUSINESS, BUT I WAS GOING TO PULL IT SO WE CAN HAVE DISCUSSION.
THANK YOU. IN REGARDS TO THEIR INCIDENTAL EXPENSES.
AND I SEE. YEAH, ALL OF THEM ARE SMALLER CITIES THAN US, BUT A LOT MORE.
I KNOW MYSELF AND THOSE WHO PAY ATTENTION.
I SPEND A LOT OF TIME OUT IN THE COMMUNITY.
SOMETIMES I NEGLECT MY OWN BUSINESS BECAUSE I REALLY.
SO THIS COVERS LIKE ME GOING TO THE SPACE COAST, TO NASSAU, TO TITUSVILLE, ALL THESE OTHER AREAS.
BUT I DO THINK IT IS WARRANTED.
AND I HAVE NO I HAVE NO ISSUE ANSWERING TO ANY PERSON.
I WAS JUST AT REPUBLIC SERVICES THIS MORNING AT 5:30 A.M.
SO WHETHER WHETHER WE CHANGE THE DOLLAR AMOUNT OR WHATEVER, I DO THINK IT'S WARRANTED, BUT THE MASSAGING COULD BE THE DOLLAR AMOUNT OR, OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. AND I DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH I'M ASSUMING WITH BECAUSE ORIGINALLY IT WAS ONLY A $50 DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MAYOR AND DEPUTY MAYOR. AND I'M ASSUMING IT'S THE SAME BECAUSE I KNOW FOR MYSELF EVERY TIME THERE WAS AN EVENT WHETHER THE MAYOR WAS THERE OR NOT, I TRIED TO BE THERE AS WELL WHEN I WAS DEPUTY MAYOR. AND NINE TIMES OUT OF TEN, ME AND THE MAYOR WERE AT THE SAME EVENT AT THE SAME TIME.
SO I'M THINKING THAT'S AND YOU CAN CLARIFY, COUNCILMAN FOSTER, IF THAT'S NOT THE CASE, BUT IF IT IS AND I UNDERSTAND WHY THOSE TWO NUMBERS ARE THE SAME, BUT I THINK IT'S WARRANTED, DEFINITELY THE TIMING COULD HAVE BEEN DONE BEFORE OR AFTER OR OR LATER OR WHATEVER, BUT IT'S DONE NOW AND I DON'T SEE I WILL BE SUPPORTING IT.
LET ME STATE THAT I KNOW SPEAKING FOR MYSELF.
THE THOUGHT TO SERVE THIS GREAT CITY THAT I LOVE.
I'VE. MY ULTIMATE GOAL, MY LEGACY, IS TO LEAVE THIS PLACE MUCH BETTER THAN I FOUND IT.
SO WITH THAT SAID, I DON'T BELIEVE ANY OF US IS DOING THIS FOR THE MONEY.
THE POVERTY LEVEL IS IS UNDER 20,000.
ANYBODY NOT EARNING UNDER 20,000, YOU CONSIDERED POVERTY A GOOD PART TIME JOB? WE ALL WOULD AGREE IT'S OVER 20,000.
SO. I MEAN, I KNOW MULTIPLE MANY OF YOU GUYS SERVED, PUT A LOT OF VOLUNTEER FOR A LOT OF HOURS.
AND I CAN TELL YOU THIS WAS SOLD TO US AS BEING PART TIME.
IT'S CERTAINLY BY FAR NOT PART TIME.
IF, ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE OF US THAT TRY TO MAKE EVERY EVENT.
AND WE OPENED ON THE COUNTY REPRESENTING THE CITY.
I'VE DRIVE A TRUCK WITH GAS PRICING OVER $44.
GOT ABOUT TIME. IT COSTS ME MONEY TO SERVE THE CITY.
I THINK NO ONE SHOULD BE PUT IN THAT SITUATION.
BUT IT'LL NEVER BE A GOOD TIMING.
IT NEVER LOOKS GOOD FOR FOR FOR FOR US TO GIVE OURSELVES A RAISE.
I'M NEVER A GOOD TIMING. WHEN WILL IT BE A GOOD TIMING?
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WHO WHO CAN ANSWER THAT? IT'LL NEVER BE A GOOD TIMING.IN TERMS OF TIMING, IT'LL NEVER BE GOOD TIMING.
AND I KNOW, AS THE MAYOR CONFIRMED, THAT THIS ITEM WAS TALKED ABOUT BEFORE.
SO IT'S NOT THE IDEA OF OF YOU KNOW, THE VOTER VOTED.
AND I THINK TO BE HONEST, QUITE HONESTLY, I THINK IT WAS JUST A LACK OF VOTER EDUCATION IN TERMS OF UNDERSTANDING, NOT SAYING ALL VOTERS NOT EDUCATED, BUT TRULY UNDERSTAND THE CORE REASON WHY THIS ITEM WAS ON THE BALLOT.
IF THE IF THE MAJORITY OF THE 71% OR NEW THAT ALL SALARY, THE MAYOR'S SALARY WAS 20, $23,000 AND ALL SALARY WAS 12,000, I BELIEVE THE REACTION WOULD BE DIFFERENT.
I TRULY, HONESTLY BELIEVE THAT.
SO. I GET THE OPTIC MAY LOOK LIKE THAT, BUT I TRULY BELIEVE IT'LL NEVER BE A GOOD TIME, EVEN IF THE ECONOMY. I WILL DISAGREE THAT PALM BAY IS NOT DOING WELL ECONOMICALLY.
SO I WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF THE ITEM, THE WAY IT'S PRESENTED.
BUT I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM SUPPORTING THE TITLE.
THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO, YOU'D LIKE TO WEIGH IN, SIR.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
I SEE. I SEE THE REASON WHY YOU BROUGHT THIS UP.
I MEAN, WE DO TRAVEL ALL OVER THE COUNTY, WEAR AND TEAR ON THE CAR WEAR AND TEAR GAS AS WELL.
I JUST WANT TO BRING SOME PERSPECTIVE TO WHEN I WAS OUT THERE BEFORE I CAME UP HERE.
WE GET WE GET INVITED TO A LOT OF EVENTS.
AND I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, THOSE EVENTS WERE, HEY, COME ON IN.
NO INSURE. HERE'S HERE'S DINNER.
NOW WE'RE PAYING ON AVERAGE 60 TO 100 60 TO $100 JUST TO GO TO THE EVENT.
AND THAT'S AN EVENT TO REPRESENT THE CITY.
I SEE COUNCILMAN OF FOSTER WEAR A NICE BLUE BUTTON DOWN.
THAT WAS ONE OF HIS THREE SHIRTS HE PICKED.
I'M LIKE, MAN, I WANT THAT SHIRT.
BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, YOU KNOW, AND I BROUGHT THAT ARGUMENT TO THE PUBLIC, THE PEOPLE THAT REACHED OUT TO ME, WHETHER IT WAS AT THE GROCERY STORE OR OVER THE PHONE, THEY STILL WERE NOT FOR IT.
77% OF THE PEOPLE VOTED AGAINST THE RAISE.
BUT ME SPEAKING FOR THE PEOPLE AND THE PEOPLE THAT I REPRESENT, I CAN'T SUPPORT IT.
I'M SORRY, SIR, BUT THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT UP.
HE WAS ON THE OTHER SIDE LIKE I WAS ON THIS SIDE.
AND IT'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.
THESE ARE EXPENSES THAT WE OCCURRING.
AND NOT THE EXPENSES NOT GOING DOWN.
THEY'RE GOING UP. AND THIS IS NOT A AGAIN, WE CANNOT GIVE OURSELF A RAISE.
THAT SAID, THIS IS A PAY RAISE.
IT'S A MONTHLY EXPENSE ACCOUNT.
EVEN ON A. ON ONE TIME A MONTH.
YOU'RE SPENDING MONEY OUT OF YOUR POCKET JUST TO ATTEND EVENTS.
YOU WANT TO CANCEL THE ATTENDANCE MANY EVENTS AND ENGAGE IN THE PUBLIC AS POSSIBLE.
BECAUSE I DO A LOT MORE THAN SIT ON THIS, DI EVERY NOT JUST ME.
COUNCIL. I THINK THE MAYOR WILL AGREE WITH THAT.
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AND TO SPEND MY MONEY.BECAUSE I'M ALWAYS SPENDING MY TIME AND THAT'S COST ME MONEY.
EVERY TIME I DO SOMETHING FOR PALM BAY, I LOSE MONEY OUT OF MY OWN BUSINESS.
THE SOME PEOPLE ON THE DIAS KNOW WHAT I DO.
SO. THIS IS THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WILL.
IT'S A. TO MEET THAT NEEDS FOR ME NOT TO SPEND MY MONEY AND EVEN AN AMOUNT THAT IS ON THIS MOTION THAT MOUNTAINS TO ME IS EVEN SMALLER THAN IT SHOULD BE.
LIKE I SAID. EVERY CITY COUNCIL ON THE SHEET HAS IT.
GO TALK TO THE MAYOR OF MELBOURNE AND ASK HIM, IS THAT $412 AS A PAY RAISE? IS IT ENOUGH TO DO YOUR JOB? OR ASK THE COUNCIL OF.
ANYBODY DROVE THROUGH COCOA BEACH.
3 MINUTES TO GET IN AND IN LESS THAN 3 MINUTES TO GET OUT.
WE HAVE A WE'RE IN THE LARGEST CITY IN PALM BAY AND.
WE. YOU WANT US TO DO MORE? AND TO BE ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY AND THE PALM BAY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE PRESIDENT NANCY PELOTON TOLD YOU HOW ACTIVE WE ARE. AND THEY HAVE A LOT OF EVENTS.
AND WE ENGAGE IN THE IN THE IN THE WITH OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY.
SO SHOULD I NOT GO TO THEM EVENTS BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO SPEND MONEY OUT OF MY POCKET.
I'M NOT GOING TO GET REIMBURSED FOR.
THE ONLY TIME PALM BAY REIMBURSE US IF WE GO TO A CONFERENCE, LIKE ALL OF US ON THIS DIET.
WENT TO THE CONFERENCE LAST WEEK AND THEY GAVE US PER DIEM.
SHOULD THEY STOP GIVING US PODIUM TO GO TO A CONFERENCE SO DID NOT PAY FOR OUR HOTEL? IS THAT A PAY RAISE? THAT'S AN INCIDENTAL EVENT, AND WE DON'T GET NO COMPENSATION TO DO THAT IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
SO. MY MY STATEMENT TO MY COLLEAGUE, IF YOU FEEL THAT THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT TIME AND YOU DON'T WANT TO TAKE THE MONEY, DONATE IT TO THE PALM BAY MUNICIPAL FUND. DON'T TAKE IT.
DONATE IT TO THE PALM BAY MUNICIPAL PUMP.
SO I GOT A MOTION IN A SECOND.
I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THE OPTICS IS HORRIBLE.
BUT I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN FORCES SECONDED BY.
COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS MOTION SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.
SIGNIFY BY SAYING NAY, NAY, NAY.
I. FOR COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO MEDINA.
WE ARE NOW ON NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER ONE.
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MS.. SMITH. RESOLUTION 2022, DASH 58, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, RELATING TO THE PROVISION OF STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SERVICES, PROVIDING LEGISLATIVE FINDINGS, ESTABLISHING A STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AREA, PROVIDING FOR THE COMPUTATION AND IMPOSITION OF STORMWATER UTILITY FEES UPON THE CITY'S PROVISION OF STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SERVICES WITHIN THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AREA.ESTABLISHING A MITIGATION POLICY.
RESCINDING RESOLUTIONS OR PARTS OF RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT HERE WITH.
PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. MISS SHERMAN.
SHE AND THE TEAM WORKED VERY HARD FOR A NUMBER OF MONTHS TO GET THIS ITEM BEFORE YOU, JULIETTE.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. WELCOME, MS..
I'M JULIET MOSCONI. I'M DEPUTY CITY MANAGER.
I'M GOING TO SOUND THAT SOUND.
IT SOUNDS GOOD. NOT THE FIRST TIME YOU SAID IT.
IT IS MAYBE THE FIRST TIME I'VE SAID IT.
ME AND DEPUTY MAYOR, WE'RE GETTING USED TO A HUGE TITLE.
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I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A VERY BRIEF RECAP.DURING THE FISCAL YEAR 2022 BUDGET DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT INSTITUTIONAL EXEMPTIONS AS THEY'RE CURRENTLY WRITTEN INTO THE STORMWATER UTILITY RATE RESOLUTION.
WE DID HAVE OUR CONSULTANT AT THE TIME DO AN ANALYSIS AND DETERMINE THAT THERE WERE PROPERTIES THAT WERE GETTING THE EXEMPTION THAT HAD CHANGED PARCEL TYPE DURING THE COURSE OF THE YEAR, BUT WE ONLY DO THE ASSESSMENT ONCE A YEAR.
ONE, THAT IT REQUIRES A MODIFICATION TO THE RESOLUTION AND TO WE WERE NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT DONE IN ENOUGH TIME FOR IT TO BE EFFECTIVE. ON OCTOBER 1ST, WE WANTED TO GIVE AS MUCH NOTICE TO THE IMPACTED PARCEL OWNERS AS POSSIBLE.
SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS, FIRST OF ALL, WE'VE CHANGED CONSULTANTS SINCE THEN.
YOU ALL KNOW THAT WE NOW HAVE STANTEC AS A CONSULTANT.
THIS IS THEIR FIRST YEAR DOING THE ASSESSMENT ROLE.
MISS NATALIE SHAVER, SHE'S THE PUBLIC WORKS ENVIRONMENTAL ENGINEER THAT SPEARHEADS THE PROGRAM.
ASK THEM LOTS OF GREAT QUESTIONS, AND IT WAS A VERY ENGAGED PROCESS.
IN PARTICULAR, WE CREATED A FRIENDLY URL WITH FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS.
WE DID TWO MAILERS, ONE THE WEEK OF OCTOBER 31ST AND ONE TWO WEEKS LATER, ADVISING THAT TONIGHT WOULD BE THE TIME THAT COUNCIL WOULD BE CONSIDERING THIS MODIFICATION.
WE DID USE A PROFESSIONAL MAILING SERVICE FOR THAT SO WE COULD ENSURE THAT THEY ALL WERE NOTIFIED.
WE ALSO HAVE PROVIDED A WORD THAT I WANT TO USE.
WHAT IS THE WORD THAT I WANT TO USE? WE'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD THEM.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO BACKFILL THEM.
THANK YOU. PRORATED IS THE WORD THAT I'M LOOKING FOR FROM OCTOBER THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST.
SO THIS WOULD NOT BE EFFECTIVE UNTIL JANUARY 1ST.
AND THEN WE ALSO EXTENDED THE MITIGATION CREDIT DEADLINE.
COULD BE SOMETHING AND I'LL LET NATALIE SPEAK TO THAT.
IT HAD NOT BEEN EXPANDED SINCE WE REVIEWED THE PROGRAM IN 2017.
AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
ALSO, ANY QUESTIONS? NOT REALLY A QUESTION, BUT I APPRECIATE STAFF'S DILIGENCE ON THIS ITEM.
I KNOW IT WAS BROUGHT UP, I THINK TOWARDS THE BEGINNING OF COUNCIL 2020 TO 2020 COUNCIL'S 20.
YEAH, IT WAS BROUGHT UP. JEFF BAILEY WAS STILL AMONG US.
THAT WAS IT WAS THEN WITH MYSELF AND COUNCILMAN BAILEY SPEAKING ON.
BUT HERE WE HAVE SEVERAL THAT ARE HAVE BEEN EXEMPT FROM THAT SERVICE FOR A LONG TIME.
SO WE HAVE MAJORITY OF THE RESIDENTS THAT HAVE BEEN PAYING FOR THAT SERVICE WHERE.
THERE ARE SEVERAL THAT WEREN'T.
SO I APPRECIATE YOU DOING YOUR DUE DILIGENCE, ESPECIALLY THE PORTION OF YOU KNOW THOSE PROPERTIES, BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM ONE SPEAKER THAT HAVE BEEN DOING WHAT THEY NEED TO DO IN REGARDS TO STORM WATER MITIGATION.
SO I THINK THAT THAT PLAYS A HUGE ROLE BECAUSE I KNOW AS WELL I HATE TO BRING THEM UP AGAIN, BUT MR. BATTEN, HE HE HANDLED SOME OF HIS STORM WATER AS WELL, TOO.
SO I THINK THAT'S A BIG PLUS FROM STAFF ON THAT.
SO THANK YOU. WELL, THE WORK THAT WENT INTO THE LIST.
ANY QUESTIONS? DO WE HAVE SPEAKERS? QUITE A FEW. MAYOR, WE HAVE REVEREND DAVID TREXLER.
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ON, DAVID. REVEREND DAVID TREXLER AT PEACE LUTHERAN CHURCH.AND I'VE WRITTEN A LETTER THAT I WOULD LIKE TO READ TO THE PALM BAY CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
PEACE LUTHERAN CHURCH, LOCATED AT THE CORNER OF PORT MALABAR AND CLAREMONT.
I SERVED THE LORD, THE PALM BAY COMMUNITY AND ITS RESIDENTS FOR NEARLY 60 YEARS.
THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH WORDS TO DESCRIBE ALL THE GOOD THAT SHE HAS DONE IN THESE PAST 60 YEARS.
CURRENTLY, WE OPERATE A FOOD PANTRY WITH MEATS AND FRESH VEGETABLES EVERY MONTH, SERVING CLOSE TO 1000 OF OUR CITIZENS LIVING IN 32905 AND 3297.
MEALS ON WHEELS DISTRIBUTES 250 MEALS DAILY TO OUR HOMEBOUND.
ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS, NARCOTICS ANONYMOUS MEET DAILY.
WE HOST SHEPHERD CENTER FOR LEARNING, KEEPING THE MINDS OF OUR AGED POPULATION SHARP AND ACTIVE.
WE OPEN OUR DOORS, OUR CHURCH HOME TO A VARIETY OF COMMUNITY GROUPS WHO ALSO SERVE THE WANTS AND THE NEEDS OF PALM BAY.
WE BURY THE DEAD AND WE CELEBRATE WITH THE LIVING.
THE CHURCH GIVES OUR PEOPLE COMFORT.
OH. AND WE DO THIS WORK THROUGH THE DONATIONS OF ABOUT 125 FAITH FILLED SAINTS.
ALMOST TWO YEARS AND NINE MONTHS AGO, THE CHURCH ACTUALLY SHUT DOWN.
SOMETHING THAT HAS NOT OCCURRED SINCE THE SPANISH FLU IN 1918.
BASICALLY, EVERY SINGLE CHURCH IN THIS COUNTRY WAS HIT HARD BY COVID 19.
PEACE LUTHERAN HAS BEEN IN THE RED OVER 100,000 YEARS THESE PAST TWO YEARS AND NINE MONTHS, FORCING US TO SELL ASSETS OF LAND ALL WHILE CONTINUING THE ABOVE MINISTRIES.
TOO MANY CHURCHES HAVE HAVE NOT BEEN AS FORTUNATE.
MANY MORE ON THE VERGE OF DOING THE SAME.
WHILE PEOPLE ARE SLOWLY STARTING TO RETURN TO WORSHIP.
OUR NEXT BATTLE BECOMES INFLATION.
WITH CHARITABLE CONTRIBUTIONS BEING THE ONE THING.
THAT PEOPLE CAN CUT FROM THEIR BUDGET WITHOUT CONSEQUENCES.
AFTER ALL, WE DO NOT MAIL INVOICES.
THE TIMING OF THIS PROPOSED RESOLUTION TO REMOVE THE INSTITUTIONAL EXEMPTION.
FROM THE STORMWATER UTILITY FEE RESOLUTION 2022-58 COULD BE DEVASTATING NEWS FOR STRUGGLING CONGREGATIONS. THANK YOU.
CONGREGATIONS THAT ARE SIMPLY TRYING TO MAKE OUR COMMUNITY A BETTER A KINDER PLACE TO LIVE.
THANK YOU, SIR. AND I HAD THAT MUCH NEGATIVE, SIR.
I HUMBLY ASK THAT YOU RECONSIDER.
THANK YOU. MR. BATTEN. BILL BATTON 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST. I NOTICED WHEN I WAS GOING THROUGH THE LIST, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS THAT COULD BE CHARGED WAS PRIVATE SCHOOLS AND CHARTER SCHOOLS.
AND IT WAS THE CITY'S POLICY THAT THE INSTITUTIONS WOULD NOT BE CHARGED.
IT'S NOT LIKE SOME THAT ARE JUST BARELY MAKING A BUY.
THEY HAVE SHAREHOLDERS AND STUFF LIKE THIS THAT THEY HAVE TO PAY.
SO THAT'S WHAT, YOU KNOW, JUST PUTS A LITTLE BIT OF LIGHT ON IT.
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INDIVIDUALS. THAT'S HOW THE ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN.IT JUST RUBS ME THE WRONG WAY AND I CHALLENGE THAT BEFORE.
THERE ARE CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS THAT GET HAVE MITIGATION CAPABILITY.
I LOOKED INTO MITIGATION BECAUSE I'M PROUD TO BE A NATURE LOVER.
I DO. I TRY TO DO MY FAIR SHARE.
IF ANYBODY'S BEEN TO MY HOUSE, THEY KNOW I HAVE MY OWN RETENTION PONDS, I HAVE MY OWN SWELLS.
BUT IN ORDER FOR ME TO MEET MITIGATION, I WOULD HAVE TO PAY A HYDROLOGIST.
SO ME BEING THE DUMMY I AM, I LOOKED INTO HOW MUCH A PROFESSIONAL HYDROLOGIST WOULD COST ME.
SO INSTEAD I JUST PAY MY STORMWATER FEE.
SO THEIR STORMWATER MITIGATIONS, THEY'RE STILL PUTTING STORMWATER OUT THERE AND THEY HAVE THEIR OWN RETENTION PONDS, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAY BECAUSE THEY PUT THE COST ONTO THE HOMEOWNER. BUT THAT'S DIFFERENT.
OF COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU POINTED OUT THAT I'VE BEEN ADDRESSING THIS SINCE DAY ONE, THAT IT WAS SOMETHING I SAW THAT WAS NOT, LET'S JUST SAY, EQUITABLE.
WHAT'S GOOD FOR THE GOOSE SHOULD BE GOOD FOR THE GANDER.
SO I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU RECOGNIZE THAT.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, I DID SEE HOW MUCH WORK WENT INTO THIS MASSIVE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. PLUS, I LIKE THE 1.1.
7 MILLION THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET.
TO STEVE AND REEVES, FOLLOWED BY MATT TO LAGOON.
ANY MAN. COUNSEL MY NAME IS REVEREND STEPHEN REESE.
I PASTOR CORNERSTONE ASSEMBLY.
I'M HERE LIKE SEVERAL OF THE OTHERS THAT WERE CAUGHT OFF GUARD BY THIS FEE.
THE CHURCH HAD FORESIGHT AND VIGILANCE WHEN IT WAS BUILT IN 2005.
WE HAD PUT IN RETENTION PONDS TO MITIGATE ANY KIND OF RUNOFF FROM THE CHURCH, ANY OF THE IMPERVIOUS STUFF COMING OFF THE PARKING LOT OR THE OFF THE TOP OF THE BUILDING.
ALL THE PERVIOUS STUFF AROUND OUR AREA IN OUR LAND THAT WE OWN IS PERCOLATED DOWN.
I SPENT QUITE A BIT OF MONEY TO MAKE SURE IT'S MAINTAINED MONTHLY.
ASK FOR RECONSIDERATION FOR THE CHURCH.
I PASTOR 25 PEOPLE IT WOULD DEVASTATE AND I'D HAVE TO CLOSE MY DOOR.
IT WOULD PUT A HARDSHIP ON ME PERSONALLY.
WE DO FEED OTHERS WHO ARE IN NEED DESPERATELY.
PEOPLE WHO ARE LONG RESIDENTS HERE.
THE CITY I LIKE SEVERAL OTHER PEOPLE, WERE LIKE, WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? I SOUGHT THE HELP OF A FRIEND OF MINE WHO WAS ABLE TO GIVE ME A LITTLE BIT MORE INSIGHT.
HELP BRING AND PRESENT YOUR CASE TO THEM.
THEY ARE THERE HONORABLE MEN HERE THAT WILL SEE WHAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE TO PRESENT.
YES, I DO HAVE CELEBRATED LIFE WITH PEOPLE.
I'VE HAD FUNERALS IN MY HOME AND MY CHURCH.
I CALL IT MY HOME BECAUSE I LIVED THERE.
SOMETIMES I'M THERE 60 HOURS A WEEK.
SOMETIMES IT'S A FEW HOURS BECAUSE I'M BUSY RUNNING AROUND PAYING STUFF.
I DON'T CONSTANTLY I DON'T ASK MY CONGREGATION TO FILL MY POCKETS.
I'M ASKING FOR THE CITY'S HELP.
AND THAT'S ALL WE'RE ASKING FOR.
NOT TO TAKE IN TOO MUCH MORE FROM MY CONGREGATION.
THAT'S IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
I'M HERE REPRESENTING PALM BAY ACADEMY CHARTER SCHOOL.
LET ME CLARIFY SOMETHING FOR THE GENTLEMAN WHO JUST SAID THAT CHARTER SCHOOLS ARE PRIVATE SCHOOLS.
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THEY ARE NOT PRIVATE SCHOOLS, AS YOU KNOW, MAYOR.AND IN FACT, JUST TO INFORM HIM, CHARTER SCHOOLS HAVE TO PAY 5% ADMINISTRATIVE FEE TO BREVARD COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS JUST TO EXIST.
PALM BAY ACADEMY WAS BUILT ON CAMPUS ON COMMUNITY COLLEGE PARKWAY.
THERE IS A LAKE ON THE PROPERTY WHICH WE SHARE WITH ST JOHN'S WATER MANAGEMENT.
WE ARE CIVIL ENGINEER JAKE WEISS WORKED WITH THE CITY ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AT THAT TIME TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD OUR OWN STORMWATER SYSTEM AND SO WE WERE BEING EXEMPT ON THOSE GROUNDS THAT WE TOOK CARE OF OUR OWN STORMWATER ON OUR PREMISES.
MY REQUEST TO YOU, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IS TO PLEASE CONSIDER THE FACTS THAT WE HAVE GONE THROUGH AS A SCHOOL, IN BUILDING THE SCHOOL AND SERVING THIS COMMUNITY AND WAIVE THE FEE THAT HAS BEEN IMPOSED ON PALM BAY ACADEMY THAT SAW YOUR PUBLIC SERVANTS GREATLY APPRECIATE YOUR HELP IN EVERY WHICH WAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR GIVING ME YOUR TIME.
THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? THAT CONCLUDES THE.
WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 2022 DASH 58, AND REPEAL AND REPLACE RESOLUTIONS 2020, DASH 35 AND 2020, DASH 40 AND APPROVE THE APPROPRIATION OF FUNDS TO COVER THE INSTITUTIONAL PROPERTY EXEMPTIONS FOR THE FIRST QUARTER OF FISCAL YEAR 2023.
SECOND. WE GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.
YES, MAYOR. AND PART OF IT ALSO I'M ALSO GOING TO REFER TO STAFF AS WELL.
AND I MEAN, I MADE MY COMMENTS EARLIER WHEN I WAS WHEN I WAS TALKING REFERRING TO MR. BATTEN. BUT THIS IS SOMETHING IF I ASKED MISS TERESE IF SHE CAN PULL WHEN THIS FIRST EXEMPTION WAS FIRST PUT IN PLACE, BECAUSE I BELIEVE IT WAS AROUND THE SAME TIME, I THOUGHT IT WAS 2016.
WE HAVE NOTHING. I'M STILL LOOKING.
BUT WHAT I'M SEEING SO FAR WAS IN MAY OF 2017, 2017.
I'M ABOUT TO REVIEW THE MINUTES, THOUGH.
I COULDN'T REMEMBER THE TIMING OF IT.
I WASN'T SURE IF THE TIMING WAS AROUND.
THE SAME TIME THIS THIS AUDIENCE WAS PACKED WHEN THE STORMWATER FEE HIKE HAPPENED, SO I WASN'T SURE IF IT WAS THAT SAME TIME BECAUSE IF IT WAS MY MY UNDERSTANDING, THAT'S WHY I WAS HOPING FOR CLARIFICATION.
BUT FOR STAFF, IF THEY CAN ELABORATE, BECAUSE WE'VE HEARD FROM TWO CHURCHES, WELL, TWO FACILITIES RIGHT NOW IN REGARDS TO MITIGATION, IF YOU CAN ELABORATE ON WHAT WAS SPOKEN OF ON THE COST TO.
YES, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
YES. LIKE THIS GENTLEMAN RIGHT HERE.
AND THEM AS WELL WAS TO ME THAT THAT THAT IS A VERY GREAT POINT.
GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR, DEPUTY MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
SO THE MITIGATION CREDITS ARE AWARDED TO APPLICANTS WHO CAN SHOW THAT THEIR STORMWATER IS MANAGED ON THEIR SITE.
AND TYPICALLY, AND I THINK IN THE CASE OF PERHAPS CORNERSTONE AND PERHAPS PEACE LUTHERAN AND DEFINITELY IN THE CASE OF PALM BAY ACADEMY, THERE ARE EXISTING PERMITS AND THOSE PERMITS WILL SPEAK TO THE TYPE OF SYSTEM, STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.
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SO I WANT TO SAY THOSE THREE INSTITUTIONS STAND TO GET AND I'M TALKING OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD RIGHT NOW, BUT GIVEN REGULATORY STANDARDS IN THE PAST 1020 YEARS, THEY STAND TO GET ABOUT 25 TO 30% MITIGATION CREDIT, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY A DISCOUNT.AND WHAT THEY WOULD NEED TO TO TO DO THAT AND I WILL SIT DOWN WITH WHOMEVER NEEDS SOME ADDITIONAL GUIDANCE, BUT THEY WOULD, YOU KNOW, FILL THE APPLICATION AND HAVE A FLORIDA REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER SIGN AND SEAL THAT THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM ON THEIR SITE IS OPERATING AS DESIGNED AND THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT.
THEY WOULD PAY THE ENGINEER, BUT NOT NOT THE CITY.
THERE IS NO FEE FOR THE APPLICATION.
WE REVIEW THE APPLICATION, THERE IS NO ADMINISTRATIVE FEE.
AND WHAT IS THE AVERAGE COST OF THEM HIRING AN ENGINEER TO CERTIFY THAT? CAN YOU HELP ME WITH THAT? I REALLY, TRULY COULDN'T SPEAK TO THAT.
I CAN GIVE ME AN ESTIMATE, A BALLPARK FIGURE.
MAYOR AND COUNCIL ARE OUR RATES THAT THE CITY PAYS FOR OUTSIDE CONSULTANT, PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS.
OUR HOURLY RATES RANGE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 150 AND 200,000 FOR A P.
THAT IS THAT IS WHAT THE CITY PAYS OR P PER HOUR.
BUT I CANNOT SPECULATE HOW MANY HOURS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
YEAH, THIS IS THIS IS A VERY, VERY SIMPLE APPLICATION.
I DON'T EXPECT IT IN THE THOUSANDS.
YOU KNOW, AND I HONESTLY DON'T THINK IT'S IN THE THOUSANDS.
IT WOULD BE LESS THAN AN HOUR'S WORK.
AND HONESTLY, THE SAME FOR OTHERS WITH CERTIFIED SYSTEMS OR PERMITTED STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS. YEAH, SO THERE THERE THERE ARE TIERS AND DEPENDING ON WHAT'S HELD ON SITE AND YOU KNOW HOW THE SYSTEM HAS BEEN PERMITTED, YOU CAN GET 25 TO 30, 50 TO 100, 100 IS RARE, BUT DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF THE SYSTEM, IT'S POSSIBLE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION ON THAT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? AND ALSO ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.
APPRECIATE YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME.
MA'AM, YOU. YOU'VE ALREADY SPOKEN.
NO. JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT.
I'M SORRY. I WAS GOING TO GIVE YOU THE CAUSE.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? HE'S SECOND IN THE MOTION.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD? THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY, MARY, I DO UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN OF THE THESE INSTITUTIONS, BUT WHAT WHAT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED IS THAT.
UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S THAT'S A CAUSE THAT EVERY SINGLE MEMBER OF THIS COMMUNITY I HAVE TO SHARE.
RIGHT. OTHER PRIVILEGES AND AS A51C3, THE FACT THAT STORMWATER IS SOMETHING CITYWIDE, THIS IS A SERVICE THAT WE ALL NEED AND THAT'S A FUN SOURCE OF FUN THAT'S NOT DOING TOO WELL IN TERMS OF HAVING ENOUGH TO SERVE THE NEEDS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.
I WOULD SUPPORT THE CHANGE TO REALLY HAVE EVERYBODY CONTRIBUTED.
I KNOW WE WERE USING A PRORATION.
I'M SURE NOTICE PLENTY OF NOTICE HAS BEEN OUT LAST YEAR OR SO.
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DO. CHURCH MEMBER MYSELF, VERY ACTIVE IN MY CONGREGATION.BUT WE WHAT'S FAIR? IT'S FAIR. WE WE HAVE TO.
THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, MY COMMENTS ARE, YOU KNOW, I'VE SEEN LARGE CHURCHES.
REALLY GROW THE CHURCH WITHIN.
REACH OUT AND DO WHAT YOU WOULD THINK A LARGE CHURCH IS DOING.
RIGHT. HOW DO YOU MEASURE THAT? HERE WE HAVE A CHURCH THAT FEEDS THE HOMELESS, THAT TAKES CARE OF THOSE THAT ARE THAT ARE LESS FORTUNATE THAN US.
AND YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE ARE TAX INCENTIVES.
BUT ARE WE PUTTING A VALUE ON ON A LIFE? AND I SHARED THIS ALL ALONG THROUGHOUT THE WORKSHOP.
THERE'S THERE'S GOT TO BE, YOU KNOW, AN OPPORTUNITY.
THERE'S SOME CHURCHES THAT DO REALLY GOOD WORK AND THEY HAVE.
TAX DEFERMENTS, IF YOU WILL, OR TAX INCENTIVES.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, HOW DO YOU VALUE WHAT WHAT YOU KNOW, THEY'RE PUTTING OUT? I, I, I SEE THE ARGUMENT EVERYONE HAS STORM WATER, THE ONES THAT CAN ACTUALLY RETAIN IT THEMSELVES AND PERHAPS THE CREDIT I.
I GIVE YOU. I COMMEND YOU, MAN, FOR ALL THE HARD WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE.
AND WE HAVE A CHARTER SCHOOL AS WELL.
JUST A. I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE EXACTLY READY FOR THIS YET BECAUSE IT'S NOT FULLY DEVELOPED.
PLUS, WE HAVE ELBOW AGREEMENTS IN THIS AREA, WHICH I THOUGHT ALREADY KIND OF SOLVED THIS PROBLEM.
THIS AREA IS STILL PRETTY RURAL AS WELL AS COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES OUT THERE.
THERE'S. I WON'T SAY AGRICULTURE, BUT THERE IS SOME PROPERTIES LIKE THAT OUT THERE.
I CAN'T VOTE FOR THIS. I DON'T FEEL IT.
AND THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS, SIR.
THANK YOU. WE'RE ALL GOING TO TALK.
THE GENTLEMAN WHO HAD THAT SMALL CHURCH THAT SAID HE WOULD CLOSE HIS CHURCH WILL CLOSE DOWN.
HE'S BEING HONEST. AND I DON'T WANT YOU TO CLOSE DOWN YOUR CHURCH.
AND THAT'S WHY I'M HAVING A HARD TIME WITH THIS.
I THINK EVERYBODY SHOULD PAY STORMWATER.
I THINK WE SHOULDN'T EXEMPT ANYBODY, BUT ALWAYS.
OUR FAITH BASED COMMUNITY IS DOING.
YOU KNOW, GOD'S WORK. THEY'RE DOING YEOMAN'S WORK, SAVING PEOPLE'S LIVES.
THEY'RE CHANGING PEOPLE'S LIVES.
THAT YOU CAN'T MEASURE THAT IMPACT ON THE CITY CITY BUDGET.
I JUST HAVE I'M HAVING A DIFFICULT TIME TO SUPPORT THIS.
I THINK EVERYBODY EXCEPT CHURCHES SHOULD BE EXEMPT.
EVERYBODY SHOULD EVERY KNOW DON'T EAT.
CHURCHES SHOULD BE EXEMPT FROM STORM WATER.
BUT THAT. IS HAVING A HARD TIME WITH THIS.
OR MAYBE THEY SHOULD GET EXTRA CREDIT.
THEY HAVE A STORMWATER SYSTEM.
THAT'S WHY I'M. I'M NOT READY TO MAKE A DECISION RIGHT NOW.
THERE. THE MAYOR RANG THE BELL FIRST, BUT THEN.
COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, YOU WENT BACK.
I REMEMBER THAT MEETING I WENT ON.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FLOODING THE CROWD.
I HAVE PEOPLE THAT TRAVEL FROM.
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IT WAS THE AND IF I WAS ON THE DIAS, THEN I WOULDN'T TAKE THAT DECISION THE WAY IT WAS DONE, I THINK IT WAS IT WASN'T QUITE RIGHT THE WAY IT WAS DONE.YOU KNOW, IT WAS REALLY A THREE TIME.
I THINK IT WAS A TRIPLE THE WAY THE INCREASE WAS DONE.
I DISAGREE. THE PROCESS OF WHICH WAS DONE.
I THINK IT'S MORE OF A SOMEWHAT OF A COMPROMISE WHERE THE CHURCH, THE FAITH BASED COMMUNITY, FAITH BASED COMMUNITY WAS EXEMPT BECAUSE, WELL, PART OF WHO FILLED THE CROWD WAS THE CHURCHES AND SO ON AND THE LARGE LANDOWNER AND AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
BUT I MEAN, TO THE FLIPSIDE OF THAT, THIS IS A UTILITY ISSUE.
WHEN DO YOU WHERE DO YOU DRAW THE LINE? THIS IS UTILITY.
THIS IS A UTILITY BILL THAT IS A VIABLE UTILITY COST ON OUR CITY, ON OUR CITIZENS AS A WHOLE.
SO WHERE DO YOU DRAW THE LINE? WHY DO WE GOING TO EXEMPT OR NOT SAY WE'RE NOT? YOU'RE NOT. YOU CAN'T WE'RE GOING TO WAIVE YOUR SEWERAGE FEE.
WE'RE GOING TO WAIVE YOUR WATER BILL.
MY HEART GOES OUT TO TO THE CHURCH COMMUNITY.
ON IT OF OF CHURCH ACTIVITIES SUPPORTED BY AS MUCH AS I CAN IN ANY WHICH WAY POSSIBLE.
BUT I FEEL AS IF THE CHURCH THIS COMMUNITY SHOULD BE CONTRIBUTING TOWARDS.
UTILITY THAT UTILITY SERVICES THAT THEY'RE GETTING, EXCEPT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, STORMWATER, IT SHOULD BE APPROPRIATELY ASSESSED TO GET THE PROPER CREDIT AS THEY DESERVE TO.
TO THE EFFORT TO TRY TO MITIGATE.
BUT I, I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK AT IT AS IF IT'S NOT A UTILITY BILL.
THAT'S THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT IS.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.
I DON'T. I DON'T BELIEVE YOU'RE AT MY.
THE FIRST THEY HAVE THE INSTITUTE OF ELECTED MUNICIPAL OFFICIALS.
ONE INSTITUTE, ELECTED MUNICIPAL OFFICIALS, TWO, THREE AND FOUR.
BUT ONE THING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP AND I ASKED FOR CLARIFICATION ON IT, WHICH IS WHY I CHANGED MY STANCE, BECAUSE ORIGINALLY WHEN I GOT ON COUNCIL IN 2018 AND THIS WAS BROUGHT UP, I WAS ON THE SIDE OF CONTINUING THE EXEMPTION.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE TALKING WE TALKED EARLIER ABOUT THE OPTICS.
WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS, HEY, RESIDENTS, YOU PAY AND CARRY THE LOAD FOR EVERYBODY ELSE AND THEY FOR IF YOU HAVE AND I ENCOURAGE YOU TO SIGN UP FOR THAT.
SIGN UP FOR THAT. SO THAT WAY YOU CAN HEAR WHAT I HEARD BECAUSE IT'S A IT'S A SERVICE FEE.
IT'S A SERVICE FEE FOR WHAT THEY'RE WHAT THEY'RE UTILIZING AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
AND THAT'S WHEN ME AND HIM WERE THE TWO VOTES TO.
NOT EXEMPT AND THE OTHER THREE WERE NOT.
SO IT WAS THROUGH WITH THAT EDUCATION THAT I LEARNED OTHERWISE.
YES, SIR. SORRY. EVERYONE IS TALKING ABOUT THE INSTITUTIONAL THING, BUT THERE'S ALSO THIS.
THIS RESOLUTION MIGHT BE STACKED.
I'M LOOKING TO THE MBS FOR MAP.
EXPANDED STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AREA MAP AND EVERYTHING IN YELLOW IS GOING TO BE INCLUDED FOR THIS.
IMPOSITION OF STORMWATER UTILITY FEE.
FURTHER. UM, CITY MANAGER SAYS SHE CAN EXPLAIN IT.
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OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH.SO THE OTHER PART OF THIS PARTICULAR ACTION, WHETHER COUNCIL DECIDES TO BUILD THE INSTITUTIONS OR NOT, AND IF YOU DO AS A SIDE NOTE, BEFORE I JUMP TO THE BOUNDARIES, IF YOU DO DECIDE NOT TO BILL THE INSTITUTIONALIZE, THE VALUE OF THAT HAS TO BE COVERED BY GENERAL FUND AS IT HAS HISTORICALLY, SO THAT THAT AMOUNT WOULD BE ABOUT 187,000 TO GENERAL FUND.
WE'D PULL OUT OF FUND BALANCE TO COVER.
BUT GOING BACK TO THE BOUNDARIES.
SO PART OF THESE STUDIES, PART OF WHAT THE CONSULTANT DID FOR US WAS THEY LOOKED AT THE CURRENT CITY BOUNDARY AND WHO IS CONTRIBUTING IN SOME FASHION POTENTIALLY TO THE CITY STORMWATER SYSTEM.
AND THEY FOUND THESE PARCELS THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN BILLED BECAUSE THEY'RE PART OF THE CITY'S PROPERTY, THEY'RE PART OF OUR BOUNDARIES AND THEY DO HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE THE SYSTEM THAT WE PAY TO MANAGE AND MAINTAIN.
SO I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND COUNCIL LOOK AT THAT AND CONSIDER APPROVING THAT PART, BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE GET, I THINK, INTO A PLACE OF SOME CONCERNS OF FURTHER INEQUITIES IN BILLING SOME PARCELS, BUT NOT OTHERS ONCE THE CONSULTANT HAS POINTED THOSE OUT TO US.
I WELL, I CAN CERTAINLY HAVE NATALIE EXPAND ON THIS.
BUT BEFORE I DO, I'LL JUST TELL YOU SORT OF BIG PICTURE.
ANY DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO GO THROUGH SITE SITE PLAN REVIEW.
THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET LIKE ST JOHN'S RIVER WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT PERMITS AND OTHER TYPES OF PERMITS, AND THEY GO THROUGH A FULL REVIEW OF WHAT THEIR STORMWATER SYSTEM WILL DO. AND OUR OUR STAFF REVIEWS THAT.
BUT AS PART OF THAT, THEY'RE STILL GOING TO BE A CALCULATION FOR ULTIMATELY THEIR STORMWATER FEE AS PART OF OUR PROGRAM BECAUSE THE WATER ULTIMATELY LEAVES THEIR SITE IN DIFFERENT WAYS AT DIFFERENT TIMES AND WHEN IT GOES OUT, IT'S GOING INTO OUR SYSTEM THAT WE TYPICALLY ARE MAINTAINING AND NATALIE CAN PROBABLY ADD MORE TO THAT SPECIFICALLY.
COME ON DOWN. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW SPECIFICS ABOUT CYPRUS.
YOU SAID CYBERSPACE. YES, SIR.
COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO, THERE'S THE EQUITY ISSUE.
BUT WHAT YOU WANT IS SOMETHING MORE TECHNICAL, SO.
THIS CITY ALSO MAINTAINS MA LOMA BOULEVARD THAT SERVES AS THE SOLE ACCESS FOR THE ENTIRE WATERSTONE POD, AND THAT WILL INCLUDE CYPRESS BAY WEST.
AND WHEN MAR LOMA BOULEVARD IS CONSTRUCTED, THE CITY WILL IN PERPETUITY, OPERATE AND MAINTAIN MA LOMA AS WELL.
AND THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL COST OVER MANY, MANY YEARS THAT THE ONLY WAY THAT IT WILL BE COVERED IS THROUGH THROUGH THE UTILITY FEES.
CYBERSPACE. WEST AT THIS TIME DIST AT THIS TIME DISCHARGES SOUTH AND THEN EAST TO BABCOCK STREET DITCHES AND THEN SOUTH AGAIN TO SEATTLE CANAL AND THE CITY RECENTLY GAINED.
OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE AND OWNERSHIP OF BABCOCK STREET AND THOSE DITCHES WHICH MEANS WE HAVE AN EXPANDED OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE RESPONSIBILITY SO ANY CONTRIBUTING SITES PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE WHETHER IT'S IT'S A QUARTER ACRE UNDEVELOPED OR, YOU KNOW, 100 ACRES UNDEVELOPED FOR A PERVIOUS SITE UNDEVELOPED.
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IT THE EFFECTIVE IMPERVIOUS AREA THAT IS CHARGED IS 15% OF THE WHOLE.SO IF THEY OWN 100 ACRES, THEY WILL BE PAYING FOR 15 ACRES.
AND THAT'S DIVIDED BY A CERTAIN SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT COMES UP WITH THE AIR USE.
AS I SAID, THE CITY HAS EXPANDED ITS INFRASTRUCTURE.
WE ALSO HAVE WILLOWBROOK CENTER LANE ROAD ALL THE WAY DOWN.
THESE ARE OUR COSTS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T HAD A FULL NEEDS ASSESSMENT IN A VERY LONG TIME.
STANTEC WILL BE PERFORMING SUCH ASSESSMENT AND WE ALSO HAVEN'T RAISED THE RATE FOR VERY LONG TIME.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE WENT THE OTHER WAY.
YOU BROUGHT YOU BROUGHT UP TWO THINGS.
I WANT THAT I WANT TO DISCUSS IT FOR.
ONE BEING WILLOWBROOK AS A CITY OWNED WILLOWBROOK OR THE CITY MAINTAINED WILLOWBROOK.
YEAH. WILLOWBROOK IS A CITY MAINTAINED ROAD.
I MAY BE MISSPEAKING, BUT I THINK WILLOWBROOK IS A CITY MAINTAINED ROAD.
HOW ABOUT SATELLITE CANAL? STILL, A CANAL BELONGS TO BREVARD COUNTY.
RECENTLY, WE ALSO TOOK OWNERSHIP OF TWO VERY LARGE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PONDS KNOWN AS FIRE STATION, POND AND COUNTY POND, WHICH IS ACTUALLY OUTSIDE OF THE CITY.
SO THOSE WILL PLACE AN ADDITIONAL FINANCIAL BURDEN FOR FOR THAT MAINTENANCE.
NOW, SATELLITE CANAL IS NOT A CITY CANAL.
WE DON'T MAINTAIN IT, BUT WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT ENTERS THE CANAL.
IT IS CONSIDERED PART OF OUR MBS FOR ON ON OUR PERMIT.
WE ARE A CONTRIBUTOR TO THE SAINT SEBASTIAN RIVER, WHICH MEANS WE ARE EXPECTED TO PROVIDE WATER QUALITY TREATMENT FOR ANYTHING GOING INTO SATELLITE CANAL, THOUGH WE DON'T MAINTAIN IT.
SO IT'S HARD WITH STORM WATER AS IT IS WITH WITH TRAFFIC.
THE COSTS INCURRED MAY NOT BE FOR MAINTENANCE SPECIFICALLY OF SATELLITE CANAL, BUT WE WILL HAVE TO IMPROVE AND EXPAND OUR STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM VERY SOON FOR THE PARKWAY IF WE EVER INTEND TO EXPAND THE PARKWAY AND THE SYSTEM'S ALREADY OVERBURDENED WITH WITH EXISTING.
BUT THANK YOU. AND I JUST WANT TO FOLLOW UP WITH THIS ONE LAST QUESTION AND I'LL LET YOU GO.
WHEN A DEVELOPER BUILDS A DEVELOPMENT WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR PUTTING THE STORMWATER CULVERT PIPES IN THAT DEVELOPMENT? THE DEVELOPER IS OKAY.
COUNSEL, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT LIST, HAVE YOU GUYS LOOKED AT THAT LIST? I SEE HOLMES REGIONAL ON THERE.
MOSTLY THE REST OF THE CHURCHES.
IN SCHOOLS. SO THIS DOES AFFECT THE FAITH BASED COMMUNITY.
I'M JUST. YEAH, THAT OBSERVATION.
HOW MANY ARE LISTED ON HERE? THE STAFF KNOWS THAT. YEAH, A TOTAL.
SO NOTHING UNNUMBERED? YEAH. I CAN'T TELL YOU.
BUT. SO I WAS SURPRISED TO SEE FLOYD.
THERE ARE 97 INSTITUTIONAL PARCELS ON THE LIST THAT YOU HAVE.
72 OF THEM ARE UNDER THE CATEGORY OF FAITH BASED RELIGIOUS EXEMPTIONS.
AND NOTICES WERE SENT TO ALL OF THEM, CORRECT? NOTICES WERE SENT TO ALL OF THEM.
WE EVEN GOT A FEW MINOR ONES RETURNED, CHURCHES THAT MOVED AND WE DID FOLLOW UP WITH THEM.
ALSO, THE EXPANDED STORM WATER MANAGEMENT AREA PARCELS.
THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS WERE ALSO NOTICED AS WELL.
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STAFF TO WORK ON THIS DILIGENTLY OVER THE PAST YEAR.AND IT WAS UNANIMOUS BECAUSE I REMEMBER IT WAS UNANIMOUS.
SO THAT'S THAT'S REALLY WHERE I'M AT.
I MIGHT HAVE BEEN THE RESTROOM.
IF YOU CAN CLARIFY ON WHY WE CAN'T.
IT'S NOT THAT THE CITY DOESN'T WANT TO, IF YOU CAN SPEAK ON THAT.
WELL, I'LL JUST TELL YOU WHAT I UNDERSTAND THEN.
PATRICIA MIGHT BE MORE OF THE LEGAL EXPERT ON THAT.
BUT YOU'RE RIGHT. PUBLIC SCHOOLS CAN'T BE BUILT.
BUT PRIVATE SCHOOLS, CHARTER SCHOOLS, THEY CAN ALL BE INCLUDED IN THE STORMWATER FEE.
THE MAIN ISSUE, BECAUSE I KNOW, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW.
THAT REALLY AFFECTS WHY WE ARE NOT CHARGING SOME.
IT'S ABOUT SOVEREIGN IMMUNITY.
SOVEREIGN IMMUNITY ISN'T GIVEN TO CHARTER SCHOOLS.
CATEGORY, THEY DECIDE, YOU KNOW WHAT, I'M NOT GOING TO PAY.
IF THERE'S NOT A CONTRACT AND THERE'S NOT A WAIVER OF SOVEREIGN IMMUNITY, YOU CAN'T SUE THEM.
SO SINCE THEY KNOW AND THERE'S QUITE A FEW CASES THAT IF THEY DON'T PAY, WE CAN'T MAKE THEM.
THEY DON'T PAY AND WE ACTUALLY CAN'T MAKE THEM.
SO FOR FEDERAL PROPERTIES, BECAUSE THEY HAVE WAIVED IT AND UNDER THE CASE LAW, WE CAN CHARGE THEM.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD CHARGE, YOU KNOW, THE REST OF THE SCHOOLS.
THEY'RE AWARE OF THE CASE LAW.
YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WHEN WE WERE, YOU KNOW, I GET CALLS FROM THE, YOU KNOW, THERE.
SO THAT'S WHY WE STOP CHARGING, BECAUSE IT'S JUST SOMETHING ON THE BOOKS THAT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S MONEY THAT THE CITY CAN HAVE, BUT WE'RE NEVER GOING TO BE ABLE TO COLLECT THEM BECAUSE WE HAVE NO LEGAL RECOURSE AGAINST THEM.
THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL YOU KNOW.
AND COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, I KNOW YOU GOT EMOTION ON THIS AND IT'S BEEN SECOND DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.
AND YOU'RE RIGHT, WE WE DID WE DID GIVE THIS DIRECTION.
RIGHT. AND I SEE I SEE THE IMPACT THAT THEY DO HAVE ON OUR COMMUNITY.
AND SO SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT IS THE IMPACT OF WILL THIS ADVERSELY AFFECT OUR COMMUNITY? IF. IF IF CHURCHES DO CLOSE DOWN.
RIGHT. SO THAT'S WHY I'M I'M I'M LIKE I'M STRUGGLING WITH THIS AND I'M BEING TRANSPARENT ON THIS, GUYS, WHEN I SEE THE MAJORITY OF THESE.
AND THEN YOU MIX UP THESE CHURCHES WITH.
I MEAN I'M LIKE, HOW ARE THEY EXEMPT? RIGHT. BECAUSE THEY ARE FOR PROFIT, AREN'T THEY? UM, OR THEY'RE NON-FOR-PROFIT NONPROFIT.
YEAH, BUT THEY STILL MAKE A PROFIT, RIGHT? I MEAN, I THINK IT'S TWO DIFFERENT CATEGORIES, RIGHT? SO THAT'S WHY I'M STRUGGLING WITH THIS.
I SEE WHAT THE CHURCHES ARE DOING, BUT THAT'S WHY I'M STRUGGLING WITH THIS.
GO AHEAD, SIR. I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, I THINK WE'RE LOOKING TOO MUCH INTO IT.
I MEAN, AS MUCH AS WE WANT TO SYMPATHIZE WITH CHURCHES.
I TRULY BELIEVE GOD WILL PROVIDE.
I DON'T BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, THIS ACTION TONIGHT.
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I THINK IT'S DOING THE RIGHT THING.IT'S AS IF YOU LOOKED AT A CITIZEN.
YOU KNOW, STRUGGLING WITH WITH WITH THE INCOME.
LET'S LOOK AT IT FOR WHAT IT IS.
IT'S A UTILITY BILL THAT WE ALL GOT TO PAY.
I GUARANTEE YOU THE CHURCH IS NOT GOING TO CLOSE THEIR DOOR.
THAT'S HOW WE SHOULD TREAT IT, TO MAKE IT EQUAL FOR FOR.
AND THAT WE JUST WE'RE NOT DOING THE RIGHT THING OR NOT SUPPORTING THIS, THAT THAT'S TO ME.
WE ALL SHOULD CONTRIBUTE TOWARDS IT.
TRULY, THAT'S WHAT IT IS, AS SIMPLE AS THAT.
OKAY. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? OKAY. I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCIL COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.
I'M CALLING THE QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR.
SIGNIFY BY SAYING NAY, NAY, NAY.
WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER TWO.
IF STAFF CAN POSSIBLY DIRECT MS..
MISS SHAVER IS AVAILABLE IF YOU WANTED TO, TO MEET WITH HER AND GET INFORMATION ON ON THOSE DISCOUNTS THAT WERE DISCUSSED. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
JOHNSON. I STILL GOTTA GET USED TO CASE STUDY.
YEAH. LET'S GIVE IT A FEW MINUTES.
SO WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER TWO.
MADAM SHERMAN. THANK YOU, SIR.
I'M JUST GOING TO PROVIDE A BRIEF LITTLE BIT OF OVERVIEW, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY TURN IT OVER TO OUR CONSULTANT, OUR PROJECT MANAGER, WHO'S ATTENDING VIRTUALLY HERE, AS YOU ALL CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN.
SO THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE HAD NOT DONE FOR THE ENTIRE CITY FOR DECADES.
WE HAD STAFF GO BACK AND LOOK AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHEN WE LAST DID A FULL CITYWIDE SALARY STUDY.
AS FAR AS WE CAN TELL, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN SOMETHING IN THE LATE EIGHTIES OR NINETIES.
SO WHAT, YOU HAVE 30 YEARS? YEAH. SO WHAT YOU HAVE FOR DECADES IS SITUATIONS WHERE PAY RANGES AND PAY SCALES WERE ADJUSTED PERIODICALLY FOR SPECIFIC REASONS.
FOR EXAMPLE, THE RESULTS OF UNION NEGOTIATIONS OR PERIODIC TIMES WHEN LEADERSHIP MAY HAVE DECIDED TO INCREASE THE PAY RANGES OUTSIDE OF CONTRACTS.
AND SO I'LL LET HER KIND OF GO THROUGH A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF WHAT THEY DID.
SO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT BROUGHT US HERE.
STACY, JUST CHECK AND YOU CAN HEAR US.
OKAY. YEAH, IT MAKES YOU GUYS.
ALL RIGHT, WELL, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO YOU.
AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, I'VE GIVEN COUNSEL HARD COPIES OF YOUR PRESENTATION.
HOPEFULLY THE SCREEN SHARE WILL WORK AS WELL.
I THINK I'LL SHARE SOME THINGS HERE JUST TO THE RESCUE PROJECT OUT THERE.
I JUST WANT TO SAY HOW I SO YOU CAN SEE THE FACE BEHIND THE PRESENTATIONS OR JUST TALKING VOICE.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. COUNCILORS HAVE BEEN HERE TODAY.
I LOOK FORWARD TO BEING BACK TO HELP BRING THIS PROJECT TO A CLOSE AND HELP YOU MOVE FORWARD AND MAKE BIG PLANS SO THAT I WILL SHARE YOUR SCREENS.
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THAT'S. SO JUST AS I CAN'T SEE FACES.OKAY. WE CAN'T SEE IT YET, STACEY.
HER. OR IN YOUR PRESENTATION OF YOUR CONVERSATION CLASSIFICATIONS BASED ON.
STACIE, I'M SORRY, I JUST WANT TO INTERRUPT YOU.
WE CANNOT SEE THE PRESENTATION YET.
CAN YOU TRY AGAIN TO SHARE? TRY. MAYBE TRY AGAIN.
I FEEL THAT THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN A THIS IS NOTEWORTHY FOR OUR CITY.
AND AND I WOULD HAVE PREFERRED FOR HER TO TO BE HERE PRESENT.
WELL SO JUST SO YOU KNOW EVERGREEN IS REALLY A.
THEY ARE SUCCUMBING TO THE TIMING THAT WE WERE UNDER AS A CITY.
AND SO NOW WE'RE DOWN TO KIND OF SOME LAST MINUTE TIMING BECAUSE.
UNION NEGOTIATIONS AND CONTRACTS THAT HAVE TO BE EXECUTED BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.
THAT'S ON ME. THEY WERE READY TO COME EARLIER, BUT WE WERE NOT READY FOR THEM.
SO VIRTUAL IS WHAT WE HAD BECAUSE OF THEIR OTHER COMMITMENTS TO OTHER CLIENTS.
AND I HONOR YOU, MA'AM, IN THAT REGARD.
BUT THEY SHOULD BE HERE WHEN WE'RE READY, ARE THEY NOT? DID WE NOT MAKE A PAYMENT TO THEM FOR THIS STUDY? I'M SURE WE'RE WE PAID APPROPRIATELY.
OKAY. I'M SURE. SO THAT'S I'M NOT SAYING I HONORED YOUR HARD WORK, MA'AM.
AND THERE'S SO MANY OTHER THINGS THAT GOES ON IN OUR CITY.
SO FOR YOU TO FALL ON THE SWORD THERE, I UNDERSTAND THAT.
I WOULD HAVE EXPECTED THEM TO BE HERE.
AND PRINCE HARRY HAS BEEN TRYING AGAIN.
DO YOU WANT TO JUST TRY THE PROJECT THERE INSTEAD? IF YOU'D LIKE TO TRY ONCE MORE, GO AHEAD.
BUT IF NOT, WE WILL PULL IT UP ON OUR OWN.
IT IS A PRESENTATION OF A FORCE OF SURPRISE FOR TIME.
FOR STUDY GOALS OR TO REVIEW WHAT YOU HAVE INTERNALLY, WHAT YOUR STRUCTURE IS FOR CURRENTLY, WHAT ARE THE STRENGTHS AND THE WEAKNESSES OF IT, AND ENSURE THAT YOU ARE ACTUALLY MOVING FORWARD.
HOW CAN YOU TRACK ME? CAN YOU COPY ME? WE LOST YOU. START.
THEY ARE MULTI MULTI-MONTH PROJECTS, THEY'RE MULTI MEETINGS.
THERE'S A LOT THAT GOES INTO THEM.
SO WE ALWAYS START WHEN WE START A PROJECT.
IF WE'RE STARTING OFF WITH THOSE INITIAL MEETINGS, MEETING WITH YOUR PROJECT TEAM, IDENTIFYING THE NEEDS AREAS OF CONCERN, COLLECTING THAT DATA SO WE CAN DO AN ASSESSMENT OF CURRENT CONDITIONS.
MOVING ON, WE MEET WITH YOUR STAFF INTERNALLY.
THEY HAVE SOME SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO DO THINGS A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY.
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SERVE IN THE CITY.WE COLLECT ALL OF THAT DATA BACK IN FROM THE SURVEYS, FROM THE JOB ASSESSMENT TOOLS.
WE'LL USE THAT INFORMATION TO BUILD A HIERARCHY OF ALL OF YOUR CLASSIFICATIONS THAT WE THEN WORK WITH YOUR PROJECT TEAM ON TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THAT HIERARCHY RIGHT AND LOOK AT THE CAREER PATHS, LOOK AT THE LEVELS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO YOUR EMPLOYEES AND TALK AND FIND OUT DO WE HAVE THE ROOM THAT YOU GUYS NEED MOVING FORWARD AS YOU CONTINUE TO GROW? MOVING ON TO THE EXTERNAL PART OF THE PROJECT, THIS IS WHERE WE IDENTIFY THE PEER ORGANIZATIONS.
WE IDENTIFY THE CLASSIFICATIONS TO USE TO TAKE TO MARKET AND COLLECT THAT MARKET DATA AND THEN PREPARE A MARKET POSITION REPORT TO IDENTIFY WHERE ARE YOU IN RELATION TO THE MARKET.
THEN ULTIMATELY BRING THE INTERNAL DATA TOGETHER, THE EXTERNAL DATA, AND THEN DO THAT COMPENSATION ANALYSIS, DEVELOP REGRESSION FORMULAS THAT LET US IDENTIFY WHERE YOUR WHAT KIND OF PACE SYSTEM YOU NEED TO FIT YOUR NEEDS.
WHERE SHOULD YOUR CLASSIFICATIONS BE ASSIGNED TO THE DIFFERENT PAY GRADES SO THAT YOU CAN THEN BUILD A COST ESTIMATES FOR BUDGET PURPOSES? AND THEN ULTIMATELY, STEP SIX IS FINALIZING THAT PROJECT, PROVIDING YOU THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS, REVIEWING YOUR JOB DESCRIPTIONS WITH YOU, PROVIDING TRAINING TO YOUR HR STAFF SO YOU CAN FULLY IMPLEMENT AND THEN MANAGE THIS MOVING FORWARD.
SO GIVEN THAT KIND OF OVERVIEW OF THE PROCESS, LET'S TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE FINDINGS.
SO WE COLLECTED YOUR DATA AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PROJECT.
WE CONDUCT WHAT WE CALL OUR ASSESSMENT OF CURRENT CONDITIONS.
WHAT WE FOUND AT THAT POINT IN TIME AND THAT SNAPSHOT OF DATA, YOU HAD ONE, YOU HAD 824 EMPLOYEES, 226 CLASSIFICATIONS THAT YOU WERE USING. YOU HAVE FIVE PAY PLANS.
THEIR STRUCTURE GENERALLY FOLLOWED BEST PRACTICES AS FAR AS THE WAY THAT THEY WERE BUILT.
BUT WHAT WE DID FIND IS YOU HAD MULTIPLE PAY GRADES THROUGHOUT THAT YOU WERE NOT UTILIZING.
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, I THINK YOUR GENERAL PLAN HAD, GOSH, WELL OVER 50 TO 60 DIFFERENT PAY GRADES THAT HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED AND CREATED OVER THE YEARS BUT WERE NO LONGER BEING USED. YOU HAD 66% OF YOUR EMPLOYEES WERE COMPENSATED BELOW THE MIDPOINT OF THEIR RANGES.
IF YOU 15 YEARS OF TENURE IS WHERE YOU EXPECT TO SEE PEOPLE ADD AN ABOVE THAT MIDPOINT.
WE SAW MINIMAL COMPRESSION BETWEEN YOUR SALARIES BASED ON TENURE.
THE ONLY AREA WE SAW SOME COMPRESSION WAS WITH A FEW RECENT NEW HIRES.
BUT OVERALL, YOU DIDN'T HAVE THAT MUCH COMPRESSION.
AND COMPRESSION IS SALARIES OF PEOPLE IN THE SAME CLASSIFICATION DIFFERENTLY AT THE TIME BEING PAID VERY SIMILARLY OR COMPRESSION BETWEEN SUPERVISORS AND THEN THEIR EMPLOYEES.
SO FOR THE OUTREACH COMPONENT, A THANK YOU TO YOUR STAFF.
WE HAD A GREAT, GREAT RESPONSE RATE WITH OUR SURVEY AND WITH THE JOB ASSESSMENT TOOL RESPONSE.
OVER 50% OF YOUR STAFF RESPONDED.
YOUR STAFF REALLY LIKE WORKING IN THEIR COMMUNITY.
THEY APPRECIATE THE BENEFITS AND THE RETIREMENT THE CITY PROVIDES.
THEY A LOT OF THEM DID FEEL THEIR SALARIES WERE NOT COMPETITIVE WITH PEER ORGANIZATIONS.
THEY FELT LIKE THEY HAD SLIPPED.
AND THAT THAT LEVEL OF COMPETITIVENESS OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, JOB DESCRIPTIONS NEEDED UPDATING.
THEY DID NOT REALLY REFLECT WHAT THE JOBS ARE NOW.
THOSE THINGS HAVE CHANGED AND EVOLVED OVER TIME.
AND THEN THERE WAS A CONCERN, KIND OF LIKE WHAT I JUST MENTIONED, THAT YOU SOME OF THE NEWER EMPLOYEES, THE CONCERN WAS THEY WERE BRIGHT AND BROUGHT IN AT SALARIES VERY SIMILAR TO YOUR STAFF THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS.
SO YOU'RE NOT. NO, NO ROOM IN BETWEEN THOSE.
FOR YOUR CLASSIFICATION ANALYSIS.
AGAIN, 60% OF YOUR EMPLOYEES RESPONDED TO THOSE JOB ASSESSMENTS.
WE USE THE DATA THEY GAVE US TO CREATE A HIERARCHY OF ALL OF YOUR CLASSIFICATIONS.
THERE WERE 17 PEERS THAT WE SELECTED TO BE SURVEYED.
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VALUE OF A DOLLAR.WE SELECTED 60 CLASSIFICATIONS TO TAKE TO MARKET AND COLLECT THE SALARY DATA FROM THOSE 17 PEERS AND WE WERE ABLE TO COLLECT 574 GOOD DATA POINTS.
AND WHAT WE FOUND AT THE MARKET AVERAGE AT THAT 50TH PERCENTILE.
SO A TRUE JUST AVERAGE, WE FOUND OUT THAT YOU ARE JUST ABOUT 4% BELOW THE MARKET MINIMUMS OF YOUR SALARIES, ABOUT 8% BELOW THE MIDPOINT AND LITTLE MORE THAN 11% BELOW AT THE MAXIMUMS. RIGHT. NOW, BEFORE WE CAN GO DEVELOP YOUR SOLUTION FILES, WHAT WITH THE ADJUSTMENTS TO YOUR PAY PLANS.
WE HAD A MEETING WITH YOUR STAFF TO TALK ABOUT COMPENSATION PHILOSOPHY, AND THIS IS WHERE WE TALK ABOUT WHAT IS THAT DESIRED MARKET POSITION? HOW COMPETITIVE DO YOU WANT TO BE WITH THOSE PEERS? WE TALK ABOUT PAY PRACTICES, PAY PLAN, DESIGN, AND NOW THAT CONVERSATION, AND YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE COMPETITIVE WITH MARKET AVERAGE.
THIS CAN GROW WITH YOU OVERTIME PAY PLAN DESIGN, MAINTAIN THAT CURRENT APPROACH, OPEN RANGE FOR BLUE, WHITE AND GENERAL PLAN, AND THEN STEP PLAN FOR THE FIRE AND POLICE.
SIDE NOTE THEY'RE ON FIRE AND POLICE.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO LOOK AT THOSE AS EVEN WORK.
WE'RE FINISHING UP THE DETAILS ON THOSE.
WE WERE HAPPY TO COME BACK AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT LATER.
LAST POINT THERE, ENSURE CONSISTENCY AND DESIGN.
YOU WANT A PLAN THAT'S INTUITIVE, IT'S CONSISTENT, IT'S TRANSPARENT.
PEOPLE KNOW WHERE THEY'RE AT AND WHAT TO EXPECT.
AND FOR YOUR CLASSIFICATION TITLES YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW.
WE DIDN'T MAKE TOO MANY CHANGES AS FAR AS THE TITLES OF THE POSITIONS.
WE'RE NOT RECOMMENDING MUCH THERE.
WE DO HAVE TWO THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING FOR UPDATES FOR CONTEMPORARY TITLE USE FOR JOB DUTIES.
AS FAR AS CREATING ADDITIONAL CAREER PATHS RIGHT NOW, DIDN'T IDENTIFY A PARTICULAR FIELD AREA CAREER PATH THAT NEEDED AN ADDITIONAL LEVEL 1 TO 3 JUNIOR SENIOR TYPE POSITION.
BUT I DID BUILD ROOM INTO THE PLANS SO YOU CAN CREATE THEM AS YOU NEED THEM.
SO NOW YOUR GENERAL PAY PLANS.
I THINK THERE WAS A TOTAL OF 62.
AND I SAID, LIKE I SAID, QUITE A FEW OF THOSE NOT IN USE.
WE'RE GOING TO INCREASE YOUR RANGE SPREAD FROM RIGHT NOW YOU'RE RUNNING ABOUT AN AVERAGE OF 50%.
MAINTAIN THAT OPEN RANGE SYSTEM.
YOUR OLD MINIMUM FOR YOUR GENERAL PLAN WAS 2142 21,417.
WE'RE GOING TO INCREASE THAT TO 35 360.
SO THAT BRINGS YOU ABOVE THE REQUIRED 15 THAT FLORIDA IS MOVING TO.
AND IT'S ALSO MUCH MORE COMPETITIVE IN YOUR IN YOUR LOCATION.
WE'RE DOING VERY SIMILAR NINE PAY GRADES FOR BLUE, 11 FOR WHITE.
WE'RE ALSO LOOKING HERE AT BRING THAT MINIMUM TO 35, 360 FOR BOTH OF THOSE.
SO THE FOLKS WHO ARE LOOKING AT THIS, I KNOW THIS IS BREAKING THE POWERPOINT RULES.
IT'S A BIG TABLE ON THE ON THE POWERPOINT SCREEN, BUT THIS IS THE PAY GRADE STRUCTURE.
SO I KNOW IT'S HELPFUL TO SEE WHAT THIS COULD LOOK LIKE.
SO G ONE, THAT'S YOUR ENTRY LEVEL POSITIONS ALL THE WAY DOWN THROUGH UPPER LEVEL LEADERSHIP.
YOU'LL SEE THAT YOUR RANGE SPREAD FOR EACH ONE OF THEM IS 65%.
THAT'S THE DISTANCE BETWEEN MINIMUM TO MAXIMUM, AND THEN YOUR GRADE PROGRESSION IS 5%.
THAT'S THE DISTANCE MOVING FROM G ONE TO 2 TO 3 THROUGHOUT THAT PLAN.
AND THOUGH IT'S HELPFUL TO SEE EXAMPLES, IT'S HELPFUL FOR ME TO SEE EXAMPLES.
SO I PULLED A COUPLE JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THESE MOVES COULD LOOK LIKE.
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35 360 NOW.THE ADJUSTMENT WOULD BRING IT TO 37.
FOR A MINIMUM OF COMMUNICATIONS OFFICERS.
CRIME ANALYSTS FROM 4D BRINGING IT UP TO A 45.
SO THAT GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT KIND OF MOVES WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT AT THE CLASSIFICATION LEVEL.
A LITTLE EASIER ON THE EYES FOR THIS ONE.
SO THIS IS NINE PAY GRADES, 65% RANGE SPREAD AND THEN A 5% GRADE PROGRESSION.
SO THIS IS THE WHITE PLAN, ONE THROUGH 11 FOR YOUR GRADES.
AGAIN, STARTING AT 17, 65% RANGE SPREAD AND THEN A 5% GRADE PROGRESSION.
AND WE TALKED ABOUT IMPLEMENTATION OPTIONS.
WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE LOOKING AT WHERE AN EMPLOYEE IS AND THEIR CURRENT PAY RANGE.
SO EVERYBODY HOLDS THEIR OWN RELATIVE POSITIONS IN THEIR PAY PLANS AND IN RELATION TO EACH OTHER.
NOW, SINCE WE INCREASED YOUR PAY RANGES, NOT INSIGNIFICANTLY 50 TO AN AVERAGE OF 50 UP TO 65%, WE ARE RECOMMENDING YOU PUTTING A CAP ON THAT ADJUSTMENT SO YOU DON'T ARTIFICIALLY INFLATE A SALARY BECAUSE WE'VE BROADENED OUT THE DISTANCE BETWEEN MEN AND X. SO IF WE DON'T HAVE A CAP ON IT, YOU'RE GOING TO PUSH PEOPLE FURTHER DOWN THAT PAY SCALE THAN THAN THEY PROBABLY SHOULD BE.
LIKE THAT REALLY QUICK. JUST TO TOUCH ON THAT.
THAT'S AN AVERAGE. YOU KNOW, SOME WOULD HAVE MORE OR SOME WOULD HAVE A LITTLE BIT LESS.
RECOMMENDATIONS MOVING FORWARD IS TO ADOPT THAT PROPOSED CLASSIFICATION CHANGES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THE ADOPT THE POST PAY PLAN, TRANSITION YOUR EMPLOYEES OVER ONTO YOUR NEW STRUCTURE USING THAT OPTION THAT WE TALKED ABOUT ABOVE THERE.
AND THEN, LIKE ALL PUBLIC SECTOR DOCUMENTS, I WAS IN THERE FOR 25, 30 YEARS.
REVIEW, REVISE, UPDATE TO KEEP YOUR DOCUMENTS RELEVANT.
AND THEY NEED TO YOUR EMPLOYEES.
I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
I'LL KEEP SHARING IF I NEED TO REFER BACK TO A SCREEN.
IF I DON'T, THEN I'LL TURN THIS OFF CHAIR SO I CAN SEE YOU.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. AND THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
AND IT SEEMED LIKE THERE WERE TIMES WHERE WE'RE WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS FORWARD, BUT WE'RE TAKING TWO STEPS BACK OR THREE STEPS BACK OR HAVE TO REVISIT. LOOKING INTO THE SALARY STUDY.
SO CAN YOU WALK ME THROUGH THAT OR ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THAT?
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I'M SORRY, WAS THAT QUESTION FOR ME THAT.I WAS HAVING A HARD TIME HEARING YOU.
I CAN REPEAT IT. HIRING CERTAIN POSITIONS.
SO US AS COUNCIL DIDN'T HAVE DIRECT COMMUNICATION, AT LEAST I DIDN'T.
SO WE HAD TO SPEAK TO OUR STAFF AND SPEAK TO OUR CITY MANAGER FOR FEEDBACK.
SO I WANTED TO ASK, YOU KNOW, WERE THERE ANY HICCUPS OR WHAT WHAT WAS WHAT WAS MAKING IT SUCH A LENGTHY PROCESS OR DELAYED PROCESS, I GUESS, IS THE RIGHT TERMINOLOGY.
WHAT WAS IT? IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT CHALLENGES DURING THE COURSE OF THE STUDY.
AND WAS THERE DELAYS OR THINGS THAT CAUSED DELAYS TO THE PROJECT? YES. OKAY.
I THINK SOME CHANGES TO YOUR PROJECT TEAM WERE GREAT AND REALLY HELPED US GET GOING.
AND THEN I THINK IT WAS ALSO GOING ON DURING THE PROCESS OF DOING NEGOTIATIONS.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE KEPT THOSE THINGS TIMED RIGHT SO WE DIDN'T GET ONE STEP AHEAD OR THE OTHER.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? COUNSEL? COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
MY QUESTION IS. I LOOK AT YOUR PRESENTATION AGE WHITE.
WHY IS THAT? YOU SAID ONE MORE TIME FOR ME.
WHITE ON YOUR PRESENTATION ON PAGE 15.
HAS IT? 11 LEVELS TOPPED OUT AT $95,036.
THEY TOPPED OUT AT 86,260 $0.06 ON PAGE 14.
WHY? WHY IS THE WHY AGE BLUE DON'T TOP OUT AT 11 LEVELS? WHY STOPS AT NINE? SO FROM 9 TO 11, WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT THERE IS THE TYPES OF CLASSIFICATIONS THAT ARE ASSIGNED TO THE DIFFERENT PAY GRADES, THE VARIETY, AND THEN THE LEVEL OF ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF THOSE POSITIONS.
THE WAY THIS IS BUILT, IF WE NEED TO ADD MORE FOR YOU OVER IN A YEAR'S TIME, IT'S VERY EASY TO DO.
SO IF YOU IF YOU DETERMINE THAT YOU NEED TO GROW SOME OF THOSE OTHER CLASSIFICATIONS AND ADD DIFFERENT CAREER PATHS AND LADDERS, THEN THEN WE CAN ABSOLUTELY ADD THOSE FOR YOU. BUT THAT RIGHT NOW REFLECTS THE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE CLASSIFICATIONS ASSIGNED TO THAT PLAN.
OKAY. SO FOR THE GENERAL EMPLOYEES, I DON'T SEE THEIR PLAN.
IS THAT THE GENERAL PAY PLAN FOR THE REST OF THE EMPLOYEES? NOT ALL YOUR NON BARGAINING OR UNDER THE GENERAL PAY PLAN.
SO UNDER THE NOM BARGAINING, THEY TOP OUT 30 LEVELS.
$240,151. SO I CAN ACTUALLY ADD TO THAT A LITTLE BIT.
ALLOW ME. SO THE THREE DIFFERENT GROUPS YOU'RE LOOKING AT ARE THREE DIFFERENT TYPES OF POSITIONS.
AND SO THE NUMBER OF GRADES OR END OR THE SALARY LEVELS VARY BASED ON THE TYPES OF POSITIONS.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT AGE WHITE AND AGE BLUE COMPARED TO GENERAL EMPLOYEES, GENERAL EMPLOYEES INCLUDES MULTIPLE LEVELS OF EMPLOYEES THROUGHOUT YOUR ORGANIZATION, INCLUDING ALL ACTUALLY OF YOUR SUPERVISORY LEVEL POSITIONS THAT ARE NOT PART OF FOP.
AND IF SO, WHAT I'M WHAT I'M SAYING AND THAT IS GENERALLY YOUR GENERAL EMPLOYEE PAY GRADES ARE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE MANY MORE GRADES AND GO HIGHER BECAUSE THEY INCLUDE EVERYONE FROM TOP TO BOTTOM OF THE ORGANIZATION WHO'S NOT IN THE WHITE AND BLUE CONTRACTS.
SO IT REALLY JUST HAS TO DO WITH THE CURRENT TYPES OF POSITIONS WE HAD IN EACH OF THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OF EMPLOYEES AND WHERE THEY'RE AT IN OUR OLD PAY SCALE AND HOW MUCH SPACE WE NEEDED THE NEW PAY SCALE TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE VARIOUS TYPES OF POSITIONS.
I HOPE HOPEFULLY THAT HELPS A LITTLE BIT.
IT DOES. MY OTHER QUESTION IS.
YOUR PART TIME EMPLOYEES WILL FALL INTO THE GENERAL PLAN.
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UM, WE DO HAVE PART TIME EMPLOYEES IN GENERAL.I BELIEVE WE MAY HAVE SOME IN.
DO WE HAVE ANY IN WHITE AND BLUE? NO. OKAY. ALL FULL TIME.
ON PAGE 13, I SEE THE MINIMUM FOR A CUSTOMER SERVICE CLERK WENT UP.
BUT AN ADMINISTRATIVE SECRETARY IS HIGHER THAN A CUSTOMER SERVICE CLERK.
COMMUNICATION OFFICER IS HIGHER THAN AN ADMINISTRATIVE SECRETARY AND A CRIME ANALYST.
IS HIGHER THAN A COMMUNICATION OFFICER.
EACH ONE FALLS ON A DIFFERENT LEVEL.
YES. SO THESE ARE JUST THESE WERE JUST A HANDFUL OF EXAMPLES THAT WERE PULLED OUT TO SHOW YOU THE CURRENT MINIMUM FOR THE PAY FOR THAT PARTICULAR JOB CLASSIFICATION AND THEN THE NEW PROPOSED MINIMUM FOR THAT PARTICULAR JOB.
I'M SORRY. I'M A LITTLE YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS IN THE MILITARY, I LOOKED AT THE PAY SCALE A LOT.
SO AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
SO I LOOK AT THINGS LIKE THIS WHEN YOU GET TO ON PAGE 12, FOLLOW ME, YOU GET G4.
THE COMMUNICATION OFFICER IS $1 MORE, BUT THEY DON'T MEET EXACTLY THAT AMOUNT.
I JUST ROUNDED THOSE NUMBERS FOR THE PRESIDENT.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT I NEED.
THANK YOU. YEAH. YEAH, JUST ROUNDED.
JUST A SHORTENED UP FOR YOU A LITTLE BIT.
SO, COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO, THANK YOU.
MAYOR JUST A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
THIS COMPENSATION AND CLASSIFICATION STUDY IS A SUSTAINABLE AND A 3% CAP ENVIRONMENT.
IT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID LAST YEAR WAS WE'RE ABLE TO FUND OUR SALARIES AND OUR SALARY INCREASES, BUT WE WEREN'T ABLE TO ALSO INCLUDE THE CAPITAL NEEDS, WHICH IS WHY WE REQUESTED THE CRITICAL NEED ASSESSMENT LAST YEAR.
SO THIS IS SUSTAINABLE GIVEN OUR CURRENT RATE OF NEW CONSTRUCTION REVENUE.
GIVEN OTHER FINANCIAL CHANGES THAT WILL BE OCCURRING IN THE NEXT FEW FISCAL YEARS.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE BRINGING THIS TO YOU TODAY.
THANK YOU. THE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OF STAFF.
YOU MENTIONED FINANCIAL CHANGES.
CAN YOU ELABORATE ON SOME OF THESE? YES, SIR. YES, SIR.
SO NEW CONSTRUCTION REVENUE IS CONTINUING TO BE POSITIVE IN THE CITY.
WE EXPECT THAT TO CONTINUE EVEN IN AN ECONOMIC DOWNTURN FOR AT LEAST TWO OR THREE YEARS.
WE ALSO HAVE, AS YOU KNOW, THE CRA COMING TO AN END.
AND BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY COME UP WITH A MULTI-PRONGED APPROACH TO FUND OUR ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND, I'M CONFIDENT WE WILL NOT HAVE TO RELY ON THAT CRA MONEY AS HEAVILY TO FUND ROAD MAINTENANCE, WHICH MEANS THAT IT WILL BE AVAILABLE TO DROP BACK INTO GENERAL FUND.
BECAUSE YOU ALSO HAVE TO CONSIDER THAT NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE THIS IN PLACE, RECOMMEND IT TONIGHT, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE THE INCREASES THAT WE BUILT INTO THE POLICE AND FIRE CONTRACTS, AS WELL AS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT NEXT WEEK WITH WHITE AND BLUE.
SO ALL OF THESE ARE PART OF THE BIG FISCAL IMPACT PICTURE GOING FORWARD.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, COUNSEL? AND HE. SPEAKER CARDS.
CAN I ASK FOR A MOTION? I WILL TAP THE MOTION.
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PAY. YES.CERTAINLY. OR CHARTER OFFICERS.
SEPARATE CONTRACT ON CONTRACT.
WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE DIRECTORS AND SYSTEM DIRECTORS.
YOU KNOW, PART OF THE CONVERSATION TONIGHT, A LOT OF IT IS OPTICS.
WHEN I LOOKED AT THE OVERALL IMPACT, FISCAL IMPACT.
ONCE THIS IS ALL SAID AND DONE AS PRESENTED, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OVER $4 MILLION.
SHERMAN MENTIONED THE LAST TIME SOMETHING LIKE THAT WAS DONE.
CORRECT. I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING AND BY THE WAY, YOU KNOW, THE LADY CAN THINK OF HER NAME.
THE REPRESENTATIVE, THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO AND THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT WENT INTO THIS.
I THINK WE'RE TRULY GOING INTO THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
AS MAYOR OFTEN SAID, TRULY, WERE WE, YOU KNOW, PORTRAYING THE PICTURE OF BEING A GREAT CITY, ONE OF THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH, IF NOT THE GREATEST.
BUT THESE ARE STEPS TOWARDS THAT DIRECTION.
BUT THE REALITY OF THE MATTER IS, CAN WE AFFORD IT? I. I AGREE WITH YOU, MR. SHERMAN. WE ARE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
BUT AGAIN, WE CERTAINLY DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS IN IN REALITY.
I THINK THE DIRECTORS AND THE DEPARTMENT HEADS RIGHT NOW, ALL OF.
CHARTER OFFICERS. THAT'S A DIFFERENT DISCUSSION.
BUT I THINK WE'RE AT A POINT WHERE, YOU KNOW, AND THAT WAS MY HOPE WHERE.
ONCE THIS IS ALL SAID AND DONE, WE CAN ADDRESS SOME OF OUR LOWER PAY EMPLOYEES, THE GRADE ONE TO, YOU KNOW. MAYBE, YOU KNOW, TO THE MID MID GRADE, GRADE ONE TO G 15 OR G 20. THOSE WERE REALLY ADDRESSED BECAUSE WE TRULY ARE HAVING A HARD TIME GETTING THESE POSITION FILLED.
THESE THESE ARE WHERE THE DEFICIENCIES I FELT LIKE THEY WERE, FOR THE MOST PART, NOT SAYING THAT THE HIGHER MID, HIGHER POSITION WAS WAS WASN'T ANY DEFICIENCY IN THOSE AREAS.
WHAT I THINK I'M REALLY EXCITED AND VERY ENCOURAGED THAT THIS THING CAME BACK THE WAY IT DID.
I'D LIKE TO BREAK THE MOTION TO ADDRESS THIS FIRST AND MAKE A SECOND MOTION WHEN IT COMES TO THE OR.
DIRECTORS AND OR ASSISTANT DIRECTORS.
WELL, I THINK YOU ALREADY DID THAT IN THE MOTION.
EXCEPTION. SO I ASSUME YOU'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THAT AS WELL.
WELL, I GUESS THE ONLY CONCERN AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS EARLIER IS.
THE PLAN IS DESIGNED, AND MAYBE I'D BRING STACY IN ON THIS TOO.
BUT THE PAY PLAN IS DESIGNED TO BE IMPLEMENTED AS A WE'LL CALL IT A STEP PROGRAM.
LET'S JUST GO WITH ELIMINATE IF YOU ELIMINATE THE CHANGES TO THE UPPER LEVEL POSITIONS.
I THINK STACY MENTIONED THE COMPRESSION IS YOU CAN CREATE THE SITUATION WHERE PEOPLE WHO ARE CLOSE TO THOSE LEVELS BUT NOT QUITE THERE COULD BE MAKING MORE OR VERY CLOSE TO THOSE THAT WERE ABOVE THEM, AND THAT CAN CREATE PROBLEMS IN THE UPPER LEVEL POSITIONS AS WELL.
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SO IT'S A HARD THING TO SEPARATE TO SEPARATE OUT.BUT PERHAPS STACY CAN GIVE US SOME ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS ON THAT, TOO.
SO. THERE WAS A SECOND MOTION.
RIGHT. SO BETWEEN THE WHAT I WANTED TO, THE SECOND MOTION WOULD GO AS SUCH.
SYSTEM DIRECTOR AND DIRECTORS WOULD GO STARTING YEAR 20, I MEAN FISCAL YEAR 22.
I MEAN, I'M SORRY, 23 IT'S GETTING LIKE WHERE IT'S A 5% INCREMENT FOR THE NEXT THREE FISCAL YEAR.
SO WHICH WOULD GO INSTEAD OF THE 15 ALL ACROSS FOUR DIRECTORS AND THE SYSTEM DIRECTORS JUST DO IT OVER THE NEXT THREE.
INCREMENTAL 5% OVER THE NEXT THREE.
SO I THINK THAT SHOULD PROBABLY PREVENT THE COMPRESSION.
DEPUTY DEPUTY MAYOR, JUST SO I'M CLEAR.
RIGHT. YOU WANT TO YOU WANT TO YOU WANT TO TAKE THIS APPROACH.
RIGHT. TO YOU WANT TO TAKE THIS APPROACH OF PIECEMEALING IT.
RIGHT. AS OPPOSED TO LET'S TAKE CARE OF THESE EMPLOYEES FROM A TO Z TODAY.
SO I'M I AM I AM AT THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT BECAUSE YOU WANT TO PIECEMEAL AND YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING ELSE FOR THE DIRECTOR I I'M AT THE POSITION WHERE.
AND WE'RE DISCUSSING THIS RIGHT A SECOND.
AND THE MOTION. I'M IN THE POSITION OF OUR EMPLOYEES.
I'M NOT I'M NOT SEPARATING THEM.
RIGHT. THEY'VE GIVEN UP THEIR TIME.
AND MOST RECENTLY, WE EXPERIENCED TWO DIFFERENT HURRICANE THREATS.
AND IN THAT THEY WERE STANDING AND TOEING THE LINE EACH AND EVERY ONE FROM A TO Z, ALL OF THEM, NOT JUST THE DIRECTORS, NOT JUST EVERY EMPLOYEE WAS OUT THERE.
THEY THEY THEY DID WHAT THEY HAD TO DO.
THIS IS WRITING A WRONG OF YEARS OF THEM BEING UNDERPAID, UNDERVALUED. AND I THINK THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO SAY THANK YOU FOR BEING AN EMPLOYEE AND OUTSTANDING EMPLOYEE.
AND NOT ONLY THAT, I'M FOR THE LONGEVITY OF IT, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT GOT ME WITH THE LONGEVITY.
KEEP PREACHING. KEEP PREACHING, MY BROTHER.
KEEP PREACHING AND AND COUNCILMAN FORCE TO HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD BECAUSE HE WAS LOOKING AT THESE.
AND THAT'S WHERE I WANT TO GO FIX THIS.
SO I MY DISCUSSION IS, LET'S FIX THIS.
RIGHT? THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TODAY.
THANK YOU FOR SERVING THE GREAT CITIZENS OF OUR CITY.
THANK YOU FOR BEING LOYAL TO THIS CITY.
THANK YOU FOR THE SACRIFICES AND THE OTHER MESSAGES.
COME WORK FOR PALM BAY BECAUSE WE HONOR THE SACRIFICE OF SERVING OUR PUBLIC.
SO I AM GOING TO WITHDRAW THAT MOTION AND IDEALLY IT DIES FOR THE LACK OF A SECOND.
AND I'LL PASS THE GAVEL AND I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.
BUT MAYBE, AS YOU WERE OUR SECOND FOR DISCUSSION, JUST TO HEAR FOR FURTHER DIALOG FROM MY MOTION.
YEAH. OKAY. I'LL SECOND FOR THIS.
OKAY. OH, YOU'RE GETTING A SECOND HERE.
YEAH, JUST FOR. FOR THIS DISCUSSION OF PURPOSES ROLE.
BUT HE'S PREACHING MY COUNCIL SPEECH.
I SAW COUNCILMAN FOSTER READY TO SPEAK TO, AND I WANTED TO HEAR FROM LIBERTO AS WELL.
KEEP PREACHING. SO I WAS GOING TO.
BECAUSE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS WHAT IT WAS EXACTLY IN MY HEAD.
I UNDERSTAND THE DEPUTY MAYOR WHAT HE WANTS TO DO, BUT.
EVERY DAY WE SIT, WE THINK STAFF, WE THINK STAFF.
AND LET'S NOT JUST SAY IT IN WORDS, LET'S SAY IT IN PAY.
WE NOT ONLY WE THINK, WE THINK THE THE THE LOWER MIC AT THE FRONT DESK.
I THINK EVERY TIME I GO TO CITY HALL, HE DOES AN OUTSTANDING JOB.
EVERYONE IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY NEEDS TO GET PAID.
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IT'S A REASON WHY WE HAVE A LOT OF OPENINGS.IT'S THE WE HAVE TO ATTRACT THE BEST PEOPLE TO GET THE BEST SERVICE.
I AGREE WITH YOU. I THINK I WANT TO SEND THE MESSAGE WE LOVE YOU.
I THINK I AGREE WITH YOU, MAN.
I'M GOING TO WITHDRAW MY SECOND.
I'M A PASS THE GAVEL AND I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ADJUSTED PAY PLAN.
YEAH. YEAH, I DID. SECOND. THE REASON? BECAUSE THE REASON WHY I SECOND IT, I WANT.
I WANTED TO HEAR FROM THE REST OF THE COUNCIL, TOO, BECAUSE.
I HEARD FROM, I HEARD FROM FOSTER.
I WANT TO HEAR FROM COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO, TOO.
I KNOW ME PERSONALLY, I WAS READY TO TO GO FORWARD WITH IT AS IS.
BUT I ALSO HEAR WHERE DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX IS COMING FROM, AS WELL AS TRYING TO STAGGER IT.
SO COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO COULD SPEAK, BUT I THINK MAYBE JUST RE RE ADJUSTING YOUR MOTION.
BUT LET'S HEAR WHAT COUNCIL HAS TO SAY.
YEAH. YEAH. I'M WITH COUNCILMAN FOSTER AND MAYOR MEDINA.
YOU KNOW, I SEE THE SCALE THE SAME WAY THAT THEY DO.
YOU KNOW, SCALE OF THE GOVERNMENT HAS LOOKED EXACTLY LIKE WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED BEFORE US.
I DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEMS WITH IT.
AND I DO COMMEND TO DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX ON ON WHAT HE'S TRYING TO DO AS WELL.
WITHDRAW. ALL RIGHT, SO I'LL WITHDRAW MY MOTION.
OKAY. SO IT DOES, FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
I'M PASSING THE GAVEL TO YOU, BUT HE STILL HAS AN OPPORTUNITY IF HE.
THERE'S NO MOTION. SO I'M PASSING THE GAVEL AND I'M MAKING THE MOTION.
THE MOTION. FOR THE SAKE OF TIME.
LET HIM MAKE THE APPROVAL OF THE ADJUSTED PAY PLAN FOR THE GENERAL FOR GENERAL EMPLOYEES, INCLUDING THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PLAN, ADJUSTMENTS IN THE EMPLOYEE CONTRACTS FOR THREE CHARTER POSITIONS AS WELL.
LONGEVITY AND LONGEVITY TO BE INCLUDED.
FIRST, DOES THAT INCLUDE THE LONGEVITY FOR THE CITY CHARTER OFFICERS AS WELL? OR. OKAY.
MAKE SURE OK FOR ALL EMPLOYEES.
SO ARE YOU ASKING ABOUT THE EMAIL I SENT EARLIER TODAY? YES. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY.
SO PART OF THE QUESTION WAS, IS COUNSEL WILLING TO CONSIDER MAKING ALL THREE CONTRACTS THE SAME IN TERMS OF THE LANGUAGE FOR LONGEVITY, SEVERANCE AND THE AUTOMOBILE ALLOWANCE? THAT IS PART OF MY.
MAN. GO AHEAD. HOW ABOUT HAVING ME? DEPUTY MAYOR? ACTING MAYOR.
WELL. SO WE GOT TO WE GOT A MOTION IN A SECOND.
SO YOU MADE THE MOTION? SIR, I DID MAKE THE MOTION.
I SAID I PRETTY MUCH SAID IT ALL.
I'M REALLY EXCITED BECAUSE I TRULY BELIEVE THIS IS RIGHT OR WRONG.
I TRULY FEEL THAT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO SAY TO EACH AND EVERY EMPLOYEE, WE VALUE YOU.
WE APPRECIATE YOU. WE'RE EXCITED THAT WE HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO TO MAKE YOUR POSITIONS COMPETITIVE AND TO SEND A MESSAGE THAT WE VALUE YOU.
WE SINCERELY APPRECIATE YOUR DEDICATED SERVICE TO OUR CITIZENS.
SO THAT IS WHY I MADE THE MOTION AND.
SO I HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY, MAYOR.
JUST FOR THE RECORD, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I GO ON RECORD THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST AS THE MAYOR.
YOU KNOW, CAN'T STOP PRAISING OUR TEAM ALL ACROSS THE CHART AT THEM AND SO ON.
THEIR LEADERSHIP, THE CAPACITY.
I SAID I'M LOOKING AT WE'RE ALL ELECTED FOR A REASON.
THE TOUGH DECISIONS WE HAVE TO, YOU KNOW.
THEY MAKE THEM. AND I SHARE THAT WITH MR. CHAIRMAN. EARLIER WE HAD A LONG CONVERSATION.
SO BY ANY MEANS, IT'S NOT TO TAKE AWAY ANYTHING FROM ANYONE OR DIRECTORS AND OR OR, YOU KNOW, SYSTEM DIRECTORS.
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HOLD I MEAN WOULD MAKE THEM ALL A WHOLE.BUT OVER THREE YEARS THE FISCAL IMPACT WOULD PROBABLY BE A LITTLE LESS BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MUCH.
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE SO MUCH DEMAND FROM FIRE STATION AND SO ON.
ARE THEY DESERVING OF IT? THERE'S NO DOUBT. SATED.
WELL, MAYOR OF OUR LEADERSHIP FORTUNE, THAT DID MAKE THAT A PRIORITY.
SO GUESS WHO HAS TO DEAL WITH.
BIG ITEMS WE DISCUSSED TO ADDRESS THAT BEEN NEGLECTED FOR THE PAST COUPLE OF DECADES.
SO BY ANY MEANS SO EVER COUNCIL WANT.
OR TO WHAT? BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S CLEAR.
TERMS OF TAKING CARE OF OR STAFF.
HE WENT ON. I'LL JUMP IN TO ADD TO THAT, BECAUSE THAT WAS THE ONLY REASON WHY I WAS.
I WAS KIND OF YIELDING IN REGARDS TO AFTER.
REMOVE MY SECOND TO GIVE DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX AN OPPORTUNITY IF HE WANTED TO AMEND HIS MOTION.
SO THAT WAS THE ONLY THING. BUT WE'RE GETTING TO THE FINISH LINE NOW.
THE MAYOR SAID EVERYTHING I WAS THINKING.
I WAS THINKING I APPRECIATE WHAT HE SAID.
I JUST BELIEVE WHEN YOU GIVE A RAISE, GIVE EVERYBODY A RAISE.
IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE STRONGER TOGETHER AND FROM THE TOP DOWN.
AND AND THESE MEN AND WOMEN ARE PALM BAY.
THEY WORK FOR THE RESIDENTS AND THEY DO AN OUTSTANDING JOB IN WHATEVER POSITION THEY IN.
AGE, WHITE, BLUE, RED, GREEN, YELLOW.
AND WE NEED TO SHOW THEM THAT.
I DON'T HATE THEM, BUT WE NEED TO ATTRACT THE BEST.
THAT'S WHY WE GOT A LOT OF VACANCIES.
YOU GO ON OUR WEBSITES, A LOT OF VACANCIES, AND WE CAN ADDRESS THAT BY ATTRACTING ATTRACTING THE BEST TO PALM BAY BECAUSE WE ARE COMPETING THROUGHOUT FLORIDA AND THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES AND GETTING PEOPLE TO COME TO WORK HERE.
AND WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM THE TOOLS AND MAKE IT INTERESTING AND TO GET HERE AND DO A GOOD JOB BECAUSE WE'RE NOT THE ONLY CITY IN FLORIDA, THEY COULD GO AND WORK SOMEWHERE ELSE.
WE WANT THE BEST TO COME HERE.
SO WE'VE GOT TO START WITH THE PAY.
SECOND. ALL IT ALL IN FAVOR, I.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THE GAVEL.
LISTEN, WE ARE WE ARE LITERALLY AND I'M SPEAKING FOR EVERYONE ON THIS DYESS.
IT WAS UNANIMOUS THROUGH OUR EMPLOYEES.
WE ARE PALM BAY PROUD OF YOU AND THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO ON ON BEHALF OF FOR OUR CITY.
SO WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR AS NUMBER THREE WAS WITHDRAWN.
MS.. SMITH. ORDINANCE 2020 TO DASH 127.
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA PROVIDING FOR THE NAMING OF A PRIVATE ROADWAY TO BE KNOWN AS ASTER DRIVE NORTH NORTHEAST WHICH ROADWAYS LOCATED WEST OF AND ADJACENT TO DIXIE HIGHWAY AND IN VICINITY SOUTH OF WEDGEWOOD DRIVE.
THE SHERMAN. THANK YOU, MAYOR.
JUST BRIEFLY, IT LOOKS LIKE THE APPLICANT IS HERE.
WE HAVE A MULTIFAMILY PROJECT KNOWN AS ADVANCE OF THE HARBOR.
SO THIS IS FINE FROM A STAFF STANDPOINT.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. CARRY ON, SIR.
DEPUTY MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
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I'LL KEEP THIS BRIEF BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG NIGHT, SO I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.AGAIN, I'M HERE TONIGHT TO RESPECTFULLY REQUEST APPROVAL OF THE ORDINANCE 2022 127 TO NAME A PRIVATE ROADWAY TO BE KNOWN AS ASTER DRIVE NORTHEAST.
AND WE'RE IN THE PERMITTING PROCESS AND GOING THROUGH FINAL ADDRESSING.
SO JUST WANT TO KEEP IT BRIEF LIKE THAT.
I DO APPRECIATE YOUR TIME ON THIS MATTER.
THANK YOU. ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS? ANY SPEAKER CUTS.
SO MOVED. I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? NO, SIR. ANY COMMENTS? COUNCILMAN FOSTER? NO, SIR.
ANYONE ELSE? I'M CALLING THE QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
MISS SHERMAN. OOPS, SORRY ABOUT THAT.
THAT'S RIGHT. WE HAVE TWO DEPUTY CITY MANAGERS.
YES. AND I'M VERY THANKFUL FOR THAT.
VERY THANKFUL. SO THIS ITEM IS THE COUNCIL CONSIDERATION FOR A REDUCTION IN THE PURCHASE PRICE BY AVALON CAPITAL. THIS IS RELATED TO 1626 ORANGE BLOSSOM TRAIL.
THIS CAME BEFORE THE BAYFRONT SIERRA ON MONDAY NIGHT, TONIGHT, TUESDAY, LAST NIGHT, LAST NIGHT.
AND WE HAD THE BAYFRONT AREA RECOMMENDED APPROVING THE REDUCTION AND THE ASKING PRICE BY 71,000.
$71,854.25. THE REQUEST FOR A REDUCTION IN THE IN THE PURCHASE PRICE WAS DUE TO THE DUE DILIGENCE THAT ADELINE CONDUCTED ON THE PROPERTY, WHICH INCLUDED THE PHASE ONE SITE ASSESSMENT, THE PHASE TWO SITE ASSESSMENT.
IT ALSO INCLUDES THE FEES FOR EVALUATION OF THE SOURCE OF THE.
AND SO ALBERTO WITHOUT ON CAPITAL HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU GUYS HAVE YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COUNSEL NO QUESTIONS.
THE ONLY COMMENT I HAD WAS AT THE BCRA, AND I WANTED TO PUT THIS ON THE RECORD HERE TODAY.
WE WE SAID THAT WITH 71,000, BUT YOU WENT THROUGH YOUR DUE DILIGENCE PROCESS.
AND AND I EXPRESSED IT YESTERDAY, LAST NIGHT.
SO I WANT TO EXPRESS IT AGAIN.
WHEN I WHEN I SAID WHAT COUNSEL WOULD LOVE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S A 15,000 SQUARE FOOT PLACE WHERE WE COULD RENT IN A HOTEL, NICE HOTELS OVER THERE, EITHER BY THE BAY FRONT OR WHEREVER I WAS, I WAS REALLY APPRECIATIVE OF YOU SAYING, WELL, WE COULD LOOK AT THAT.
YOU DIDN'T SAY NO, BUT YOU SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE GET YOUR MESSAGE.
WE SEE WHERE THIS COUNCIL WANTS TO GO.
AND IF YOU WERE HERE EARLIER, YOU WOULD HAVE HEARD THAT WE HAVE A CHAMBER OF COMMERCE THAT THAT HAS TO GO OTHER PLACES OUTSIDE OUR CITY TO HAVE FUNCTIONS.
AND SO BECAUSE THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU THAT I REALLY APPRECIATED YOUR COMMENTS, THAT YOU WERE GOING TO TAKE IT BACK TO YOUR COLLEAGUES AND YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO CONSIDER ALL OF THAT SO THAT I HAD NO QUESTIONS, BUT I WANTED TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD SO THAT YOU, YOU UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE WHERE WE'RE COMING FROM.
ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NONE. OK DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? AND OLSZEWSKI.
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MAYOR. DEPUTY MAYOR.COUNCIL RANDALL OLSZEWSKI, 348 BROOK STREET, NORTHEAST.
HUNG OUT HERE WITH YOU ALL NIGHT LONG JUST TO TALK ABOUT THIS ONE.
I LIKE IT. I DON'T LIKE IT AT ALL.
I DIDN'T WATCH THE BCRA MEETING, BUT I PURPOSELY DIDN'T.
ONE THAT KIND OF TIME COMMITMENT.
SO BY THE TIME THE BCRA THING CAME ON, I'M SORRY, FELLOWS, I COULDN'T STAY ON WITH YOU OR THE ADDITIONAL COMMISSIONERS, BUT I BROUGHT IT UP IN THE PAST WHERE THE BCRA COMMISSIONERS ACT ON SOMETHING.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A CONVERSATION, MAYBE SOME INFORMATION COMES UP, BUT IT USUALLY GETS ALLUDED TO, WELL, LIKE, HEY, YOU KNOW, ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM, WE ARE THE BCRA, SO WE ALREADY MADE THIS DECISION.
SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO MAKE THE SAME DECISION.
BUT THE REASON I DON'T LIKE THAT IS MY INTERPRETATION OF THE FLORIDA SUNSHINE LAW.
BUT I FUNDAMENTALLY DISAGREE WITH THAT DECISION.
THANK YOU. IF TO ADD ON CAPITAL FOR WANTING TO INVEST OUR COMMUNITY, LET ME SAY THAT FIRST GRATITUDE ALWAYS THANK YOU BUT YOU'RE BUYING A PROPERTY YOU'RE THEY COME AND AND THE DEVELOPERS AND THEY CHANGE PROPERTIES ADJACENT AND AROUND AND SURROUNDING THIS ONE'S A PIECE TO A PUZZLE.
AND THIS DUE DILIGENCE AND, YOU KNOW, IS IT CONTAMINATED WITH ARSENIC OR ANYTHING ELSE? YOU KNOW, NO SURPRISE.
BUT WE ALREADY TAKEN A HUGE LOSS ON THIS PROPERTY.
AND I'M USING FLUBBING NUMBERS HERE BECAUSE IT'S GETTING LATE, BUT I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THE DUE DILIGENCE FALLS BACK ON ME, ESSENTIALLY ME, THE TAXPAYER, LIKE YOU WANT THE PROPERTY OR YOU DON'T.
SO YOU'RE GOING TO WALK OVER THE 70 GRAND, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO WALK.
YOU'RE COMING AGAIN IN A FRIENDLY WAY.
I'M GOING TO HAVE TO SPEND ALL THIS OTHER MONEY.
CAN YOU GUYS COME OFF THAT 70 GRAND? WE'RE ALREADY TAKING A HUGE LOSS.
NO, I CAN'T COME OFF TO 70 GRAND.
IT AGAIN. WHO THE HECK GAVE THIS MAN 500,000 FOR SOMETHING THAT COULDN'T APPRAISE FOR EVEN HALF OF THAT? BUT I DON'T AGREE WITH IT.
I DON'T THINK YOU GUYS SHOULD DO IT.
MAKE IT HIS PROBLEM. THANK YOU.
SO SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? YES, MA'AM. THE ONLY THING I'LL SPEAK TO IN REGARDS TO THE BCRA BOARD.
I REMEMBER WHEN I FIRST GOT ON THE COUNCIL I WAS ORIGINALLY LOOKING TO REPLACE, AND I BROUGHT IT BEFORE, AS THE COUNCIL REPORTS, TO REPLACE COUNCIL MEMBERS WITH RESIDENTS.
AND I DIDN'T GET I DIDN'T GET SUPPORT FOR IT.
MAYOR THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT.
COUNCILMAN JOHNSON COUNCILMAN FOSTER, ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? YES. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
EXACTLY RIGHT. I SAID IN HERE MANY TIMES WITH THE BCRA AND IT WAS REALLY NO MOVEMENT AT ALL.
NOTHING WAS GETTING DONE UNTIL COUNCIL TOOK IT OVER AND THINGS JUST STARTING TO MOVE.
AND AVALON HAS BEEN A GOOD PARTNER WITH THE CITY.
THAT'S WHY WE GOT TWO HOTELS SITTING ON SPORTSMAN DRIVE.
AND I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO DO WELL IN THE BAY FRONT, SO.
YOU KNOW, THEY THEY DID THEY DO JAIL.
I DIDN'T KNOW ARSON WAS IN THAT GROUND.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY GOT TO DEAL WITH THAT AND MAKE IT WORK FOR THEM IN THE CITY.
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THANK YOU. THANK YOU.ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I ANY OPPOSE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
WE ARE NOW ON COUNCIL REPORTS.
[COUNCIL REPORTS]
COUNCILMAN FILIBERTO.DID A GREAT JOB. ALSO JUST TO CLEAN UP ITEMS HERE.
AN APPOINTMENT OF TWO MEMBERS.
ONE IS NATHAN WHITE, THE CITY'S BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD.
THE OTHER ONE IS LOGAN LOUIS TO THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD FOR THE COMMENTS.
FOR THE SAKE OF TIME, I'M GOING TO REFER MY REPORTS.
THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, I'M GOING TO USE COUNCILMAN FOSTER'S TIME, SO.
BUT I WILL TRY TO MOVE BRIEFLY.
ALL RIGHT. SO EARLY, EARLY THIS MORNING, I WENT TO REPUBLIC SERVICES AT 530 THIS MORNING, MEET WITH THEM AND JUST HAVE SOME DISCUSSION, BECAUSE EARLIER THIS WEEK I HAD KIND OF REACHED OUT TO SEVERAL RESIDENTS, REACHED OUT TO ME, AND THEN I REACHED OUT BACK JUST FOR FEEDBACK.
AND IN DOING SO, I SAT WITH THEM.
I THINK THE LAST TIME WE DID IT WAS TWO YEARS AGO, BUT WE HAD A PRESENTATION BY REPUBLIC AND I THINK IT'S I THINK WE NEED TO GET BACK TO IT AND I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THEM HERE IN PERSON, YOU KNOW, ON THE PODIUM FOR MULTIPLE REASONS, EDUCATION AND EDUCATION BOTH WAYS, THEM EDUCATING THE NEW COUNCIL AND US, YOU KNOW, SHARING WITH THEM THE DIALOG THAT WE'RE HEARING FROM RESIDENTS ON THINGS THAT WE NEED TO SEE IMPROVE UPON.
IT'S I WAS HEARING IT BACK FROM FORTH BOTH WAYS.
I WAS HEARING DIALOG FROM RESIDENTS THAT WAS VERY BENEFICIAL TO BRING TO THEM.
I WAS HEARING DIALOG FROM THEM THAT WAS VERY BENEFICIAL TO BRING BACK TO RESIDENTS LIKE, YOU KNOW, NOT PLACING YOUR CART RIGHT NEXT TO THE MAILBOX BECAUSE THAT MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT TO TO ACQUIRE THE TRASH.
SO THAT WAS ONE ITEM THAT I WANTED TO SEE IF WE CAN GET TO HAPPEN RATHER SOONER THAN LATER, BUT DEFINITELY ON A DATE WHERE WE KNOW FOR SURE REPUBLIC CAN BE HERE IN PERSON. I LIKE THAT IDEA.
BUT IF WE HAVE A PRESENTATION, THIS WHOLE ROOM WILL BE FILLED WITH PUBLIC COMMENTS AND YOU KNOW IT.
SO WHEN WE HAVE A WORKSHOP AND A PUBLIC REPUBLIC WORKSHOP SO THE CITIZENS COULD COME AND ADDRESS THEIR FRUSTRATION AND COMMENTS AND WE COULD WORK IT THROUGH.
BUT DURING A COUNCIL MEETING, IT'S JUST GOING TO BE HERE TO I'LL SUPPORT THE CLOCK.
I'LL SUPPORT A WORK, SOMETHING I'LL FIND EITHER WAY, SOMETHING.
OKAY, THEN I'M GOOD WITH THAT.
ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT THING I'VE SPOKEN WITH STAFF, I'VE SPOKEN TO SOME PEOPLE THERE.
WELL, EVERYBODY'S GONE, BUT I'VE SPOKEN TO SOME PEOPLE FROM BAYSIDE LAKES COMMUNITY, AND I HAD MS..
AND YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
YES. SO I WANT US TO LOOK INTO AND I'VE ALREADY KIND OF DID SOME DIGGING, BUT I WANT US TO LOOK INTO POSSIBLY DOING THE SAME THING FOR BASS, OUR LAKES AREA BEING THAT IT'S ALREADY BEING DONE.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? SO IT MAKES SENSE, ESPECIALLY AN AREA LIKE THAT.
SO THAT WOULD BE THE NEXT THING I'M LOOKING TO DO.
AND THEN MAKING SURE, JUST LIKE WHEN WE APPROVED PREVIOUSLY, IT WAS FOR 18 AND UP.
SO THAT WAY IF THERE IS A CHILD OR 15 YEAR OLD DRIVING A GOLF CART, OUR MEN AND WOMEN IN BLUE CAN HANDLE THAT AND, YOU KNOW, PULL THEM BY THE EAR AND TAKE THEM TO THEIR MAMA OR SOMETHING. SO. SO THEY'RE GOING, NO, THERE'S STILL THIS WELL, YOU'RE STILL YOUNG, RIGHT? YOU SAY YOU'RE STILL YOUNG.
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SO THAT'S THE SECOND THING.THE THIRD THING. SPEAKING OF WORKSHOPS, THE LAST TIME WE HAD THIS WAS BACK IN 2019, BUT WE HAD A JOINT WORKSHOP WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE ADVISORY BOARD AND COUNCIL.
I THINK THIS WILL BE A PERFECT TIME TO GET BACK TO THAT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL IN ALIGNMENT.
SO I THINK A JOINT WORKSHOP WITH THEM WILL BE VERY IMPORTANT.
SO THAT'S ONE THING I WAS JUST LOOKING FOR COUNCIL ON CONSENSUS.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I'M ALMOST DONE.
I FORGOT WHO WAS. I THINK IT WAS DEPUTY CITY MANAGER JULIETTE.
BUT I'M GETTING OUT GOOD PRESS AND GOOD INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITHIN OUR.
IT WAS HER, RIGHT? DON'T YOU HIRED GIRL. THERE YOU GO.
YEAH, THERE YOU GO. OH, BUT IT WAS HEARD IN REGARDS TO, YOU KNOW, PUTTING OUT THE GOOD PRESS, LIKE THE FACT THAT WE GOT A FIRE, YOU KNOW, A FIRE TRUCK FOR FOR THROUGH GRANT FUNDING. THAT WAS OUR WORK GROUP.
YEAH. SO, SO BUILDING THOSE RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE NEWS MEDIA, YOU KNOW, AND PUTTING OUT THAT GOOD PRESS SHOWING, YOU KNOW, YOUR, YOUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK, SHOWING EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, FROM FIRE TO POLICE, THE FACT THAT WE HAVE BODY CAMERAS THAT MONITOR AND SHOW THE TRANSPARENCY ON BOTH ENDS LIKE THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING OR MS..
JULIETTE SAID WAS OUR BODY CAMERAS.
WE GOT CHEAPER IN THE MELBOURNE CITY OF MELBOURNE, CORRECT.
SO WE NEED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT, ESPECIALLY IN THIS DAY AND ERROR.
YEAH. SO SINCE YOU'RE ON THAT SAME TOPIC, YES.
SHE ALSO MENTIONED, WHICH I THINK WAS A GREAT IDEA IN THAT WORKGROUP, WAS TO HAVE SOMEWHAT OF A A A MEDIA.
INVITATION FOR LUNCH TO SEE HOW WHAT IT IS THAT HOW WE CAN HELP THEM DO THEIR JOB AS WE HELP US TELL OUR STORY, BUILD THAT RELATIONSHIP.
SO SINCE YOU'RE ON THAT TOPIC, I THINK IT ALL INTERTWINES BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO WIND UP PUTTING OUT THOSE THOSE GOOD STORIES BECAUSE YOU COULD SEND PRESS RELEASES OUT ALL DAY LONG.
AND IF THEY DON'T PICK IT UP, THEY JUST DON'T.
YEAH. SO I WANT TO HEAR FROM COUNSEL IF THEY.
I AGREE. I WOULD ADD ALONG ALONG THAT SAME THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, AN IDEA IS RETREAT.
BRING A. BRING BRING A KEYNOTE SPEAKER TO MOTIVATE US.
I CAN DO THAT. I CAN GET YOU MOTIVATING SPEAKER MOTIVATED TO GO HOME RIGHT NOW.
OKAY. I GOT THREE MORE THINGS.
DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD, SIR, OR.
OKAY. I GOT THREE MORE THINGS.
ALL RIGHT, SO THE NEXT THING I DIDN'T KNOW IF SUZANNE WAS GOING TO BRING IT UP OR NOT.
I WANTED TO ASK BECAUSE THIS THURSDAY, OUR SPACE GOES TPO MEETING.
ALL RIGHT. OKAY. NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.
ALL RIGHT, YOU GOT IT. ALL RIGHT, I'M GOING TO PASS.
SO. OKAY, SO THEN THE OTHER TWO THINGS.
SO THIS THIS IS MORE SO FOR STAFF AND MAYOR, IF WE CAN HAVE.
WE REALLY DIDN'T GET A COUNCIL BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO GO TO THE BUSINESS ROUNDTABLE.
THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO ITEMS I HAVE AND THOSE ARE GREAT.
AND I THINK WE COULD DEFINITELY DO THAT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE MAYOR'S BALL BECAUSE IT THE OUR.
WITH THE MAYOR'S ROUNDTABLE, BECAUSE WHAT OCCURRED THAT LAST SESSION, I THINK LID WAS DISCUSSED, BUT THERE WAS SO MUCH TIME ALLOCATED THAT THE DISCUSSION WENT SO FURTHER.
I'M DONE. THAT'S PERFECT. I'M DONE.
AND THE MAYOR'S BALL, WE ARE WORKING ON THAT.
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DONATE AN AUCTION ITEM, I'M OPEN FOR THAT.AUCTION ITEMS. DEPUTY MAYOR MAYOR OUT DEFERRED MY TIME TO YOU AND AND COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
SO I JUST WANT TO GIVE STAFF KUDOS.
AGAIN, THE CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING WAS A SPECTACULAR EVENT.
A LOT OF PEOPLE CAME OUT AND COUNCIL THANK YOU FOR FOR BEING THERE.
OUR CHRISTMAS PARADE, OUR STAFF IS UNBELIEVABLE.
I'M GLAD THAT WE WERE ABLE TO SAY THANK YOU AND WE HONOR AND APPRECIATE YOU.
AND IN THAT YOU SAW THAT THERE'S A LETTER HIGHLIGHTING TO THE SECRETARY.
RIGHT. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO BRING UP THAT LETTER, MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS AT THAT TPO MEETING.
WE'RE GOING TO BRING UP THAT LETTER.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING THE TPO AND THE DISTRICT FIVE SECRETARY IS GOING TO BE THERE.
SO WE'VE GOT THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I'VE REARRANGED MY SCHEDULE TO BE THERE.
I DON'T THINK I COULD LAST BECAUSE THOSE MEETINGS SOMETIMES GO LONG.
BUT DEFINITELY WE'RE TRACKING THAT.
WE'RE REALLY MOTIVATED BY THAT BECAUSE THE I-95 CORRIDOR, WE NEED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT WE LOST THE LIFE AND PART OF THAT THEY ARE REASSESSING THE INTERCHANGE.
SO WE WANT THEM TO DEDICATE THAT TIME AND PRIORITIZE OURS ON THAT SOUTHBOUND LANE.
SO, YES, SIR, WE'RE WE'RE TRACKING THAT.
AND THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY NEXT QUESTION.
DID YOU WANT MORE OF COUNCIL TO BE THERE OR.
WELL, WE GOT CHOICES IF YOU WANT TO.
YOU WANT TO SHOW UP. BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THEY YOU COULD PROBABLY SPEAK.
NO, I WAS JUST YEAH, I WASN'T SURE YOU GUYS CAN MAKE TIME.
RIGHT. SO THAT ENDS MY REPORTS.
[ADMINISTRATIVE AND LEGAL REPORTS]
AND NOW I'LL MOVE ON TO MADAM CHAIRMAN.TWO QUICK THINGS. ONE IS TO FOLLOW UP ON WHAT YOU WERE JUST SAYING.
THE OTHER REASON IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT IS WE HAVE SEEN OVER TIME IN HISTORY WITH THE TPO GOVERNING BOARD, SOMETIMES THERE'S MONEY THAT STAFF TPO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING BEING ALLOCATED TO PROJECTS THAT GOVERNING BOARD MEMBERS MAY COME SORT OF OUT OF LEFT FIELD AT TIMES AND SAY, HEY, WHAT ABOUT MOVING INTO THIS PROJECT AND THE MONEY GETS PULLED AWAY? SO THAT'S ANOTHER REASON, JUST EVEN THOUGH IT'S LATER IN THE AGENDA, AS MANY OF YOU, ALL THAT CAN BE THERE TO KEEP AN EYE ON IT AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT GOES IN OUR DIRECTION, I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE IT.
SO THE REQUEST WAS TO IF WE GET APPROACHED BY BROADBAND PROVIDERS WHO ARE APPLYING FOR THE FUNDING, WHO WILL EXPAND SERVICES WITHIN THE CITY, THE REQUEST WOULD BE TO ALLOW THE MAYOR TO SIGN A LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR THEIR APPLICATIONS TO TO FURTHER THEIR PROGRESS.
SO JUST REQUEST FOR CONSENSUS FOR A LETTER FOR THE MAYOR TO SIGN TO SUPPORT THOSE GRANTS.
AND THOSE GRANTS ARE ARE MILLION DOLLAR GRANTS FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
SO I'M GOING TO HAVE THE DEPUTY MAYOR AUTHORIZED TO SIGN THOSE THOSE LETTERS.
IF IF IT IS A FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT WE'RE GOING AFTER.
RIGHT. SO, DEPUTY MAYOR, YOU'LL BE SIGNING THOSE LETTERS AND THEN THAT'S GREAT.
STILL. ARE YOU STILL AWAKE OVER THERE? YES, MA'AM. COPY THAT.
AND NOW WE'RE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
[PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES]
WE DON'T HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS, BUT MASTER CHIEF, COME ON UP.GOOD MORNING. CAN WE MAKE IT? GOOD. GILBERT IN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST GOT FOUR ITEMS TO ADDRESS REAL QUICKLY.
UNDER THE COMP PLAN, ZONING IS GOING TO BE SUBMITTED EARLY.
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SO I'M CURIOUS IF THAT'S GOING TO BE IN DECEMBER.ARE THE MAPS AVAILABLE NOW THAT ARE GOING TO BE APPEARING IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? AND IF THOSE MAPS ARE AVAILABLE BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING READY TO APPROVE THAT SEGMENT OF IT.
IF THEY'RE AVAILABLE, WHERE CAN I GO TO BE LOOKING AT THOSE MAPS SO I CAN SEE WHAT YOU'VE ACTUALLY CHANGED THE ZONING TO SO I CAN MAKE COMPARISONS JUST FOR MY, YOU KNOW, WHERE I CAN GO TO DO THAT.
ITEM NUMBER TWO, UNDER THE COMPENSATION PAY.
YOU CAN GIVE YOURSELF A PAY RAISE.
IN FACT, OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS, YOU HAD A 6.6% PAY RAISE.
THEN YOU HAD A 3% PAY RAISE PRIOR TO AND THAT'S PRIOR TO THAT.
THE ORDINANCE WAS YOU COULD GIVE YOURSELF A PAY RAISE.
SO WE'RE UNGOVERNED IN OUR ORDINANCE.
IT'S NO GREATER THAN WHAT YOU GIVE THE EMPLOYEES OR I MEAN, OR THE CIP SO THAT YOU CAN GIVE YOURSELF A PAY RAISE.
IN FACT, YOU HAVE IF THE OTHER CITIES ARE SO MUCH BETTER THAN US, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE COMPARING YOURSELF, COMPARING YOURSELF TO, THEN MAYBE THAT'S WHERE YOU SHOULD BE LIVING BECAUSE YOU WANT TO LIVE IN THE BEST CITY IN THE WORLD.
IF YOU'RE COMPARING TO OTHER CITIES AND WE DON'T MEET TO THEIR STANDARD, AND MAYBE THAT'S WHERE YOU SHOULD LIVE, RIGHT? AND IT WAS SAID IT WAS NOT A PAY RAISE.
IF MORE MONEY GOES INTO YOUR BANK ACCOUNT FROM ME, IT IS A RAISE THAT'S JUST NOT TAXED.
IT WAS MONEY THAT WENT TO YOUR ACCOUNT FROM ME.
RIGHT. AND YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT THE SPENDING THEIR MONEY ON GAS TO GO TO POINT A TO POINT B? I UNDERSTAND THAT.
AND THE CITY PAYS FOR THE GAS.
IT JUST MEANS YOU HAVE TO CHECK OUT THE VEHICLE THAT'S IN YOUR ORDINANCE.
SO YOU WON'T EVEN NEED THE MONEY.
YOU JUST USE THE THE CITY'S VEHICLE.
ITEM NUMBER THREE, I APPRECIATE THE 15% GOING TO THE EMPLOYEES.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THEORETICALLY I SHOULD GO TO YOU ALSO.
BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THAT'S NOT THE WAY THE CONTRACTS ARE WRITTEN.
I ALSO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO THE FUTURE OF $17 AN HOUR.
TO ME, THAT'S ASTRONOMICAL BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT I WHEN I STARTED OUT MY PAY FOR $260 A MONTH.
BUT THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE, RIGHT? ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
GOLF CARTS AND YOU WANT TO BE IN BAYSIDE LAKES.
REMEMBER WHEN YOU'RE DOING THAT FOR FOR EMERALD LAKES AND LOOK AT THE COMPARISON.
THEY HAD TO HAVE SEVEN FOOT WIDE SIDEWALKS BECAUSE IF YOU MEET ANYBODY ON BAYSIDE LAKE
SIDEWALKS WHEN YOU'RE WALKING AND THAT GOLF CARTS COMING, IT'S CALLED RIGHT BY MIGHT YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS? ANYONE ELSE WISH TO COME AND SPEAK? THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.