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[CALL TO ORDER:]
I'M GOING TO CALL THIS SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING 2024 DASH 13 TO ORDER.THE WAY WE START EVERY MEETING, WE'RE GOING TO ALL RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
DEPUTY MAYOR DISPLAYS THE FLAG.
PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
HURRAH! LISTEN AS AS YOU REMAIN STANDING.
JUST WANTED TO SHARE SOMETHING WITH YOU.
JUST WANTED TO SHARE SOMETHING THIS PAST WEEKEND.
WE LOST A TEAM MEMBER THAT WAS PART OF THE PALM BAY FAMILY FOR SEVERAL YEARS, AND SHE WENT ON TO TO WORK FOR THE MELBOURNE AIRPORT. BUT I WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE WE LOST HER THIS WEEKEND.
AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO TO SHARE IN A MOMENT A LOT.
MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR KATIE LEGGETT.
SO NOW WE'LL START WITH ROLL CALL.
AS THIS IS A SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING.
THIS IS A SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING.
THANK YOU MA'AM I APPRECIATE THAT.
SO NEXT WE HAVE PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS.
[PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS:]
SO GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.IT'S GREAT TO SEE SO MANY SMILEY FACES.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE CELEBRATING THE MONTH OF JUNE IS JUNETEENTH.
AND BECAUSE COUNCIL DOESN'T MEET ON A REGULAR BASIS IN THE MONTH OF JUNE, WE HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING.
AND SO WE'RE GOING TO CELEBRATE THE JUNETEENTH CELEBRATION WITH THE PROCLAMATION, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MR. GALLOP AND MRS. GALLOP COME ON UP WITH THEIR TEAM TO RECEIVE THIS PROCLAMATION.
WHEREAS ON SEPTEMBER 22ND, 1862, PRESIDENT ABRAHAM LINCOLN ISSUED THE EMANCIPATION PROCLAMATION, NOTIFYING THE STATES IN REBELLION AGAINST THE UNION THAT THEY DO NOT CEASE THEIR REBELLION AND RETURN TO THE UNION.
BY JANUARY 1ST, 1863, HE WOULD DECLARE THEIR SLAVES FOREVER FREE.
THIS PROCLAMATION WAS IGNORED BY THOSE STATES THAT SECEDED FROM THE UNION, AND WHEREAS IN JUNE 19TH, 1865, REFERRED TO AS JUNETEENTH, IS CONSIDERED THE DATE WHERE THE LAST SLAVES IN AMERICA WERE FREED.
AND WHEREAS JUNETEENTH IS CELEBRATED BECAUSE IT SYMBOLIZES THE END OF SLAVERY, JUNETEENTH HAS BECOME THE SYMBOLIZE FOR SO MANY AFRICAN AMERICANS WHAT THE 4TH OF JULY SYMBOLS FOR ALL AMERICANS.
FREEDOM. IT SERVES AS A HISTORICAL MILESTONE, REMINDING AMERICA OF THE TRIUMPHS OF THE HUMAN SPIRIT OVER THE CRUELTY OF SLAVERY, HONORING THOSE WHO SURVIVED THE INHUMANE INSTITUTION OF BONDAGE, AS WELL AS DEMONSTRATING PRIDE IN THE LEGACY OF RESISTANCE AND PERSEVERANCE.
AND WHEREAS, ON JUNE 17TH, 2021, PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN SIGNED THE JUNETEENTH NATIONAL INDEPENDENCE DAY ACT INTO LAW, MAKING IT THE FIRST FEDERAL HOLIDAY SINCE MARTIN LUTHER KING JR.
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S DAY ADDED IN 1983.AND WHEREAS JUNETEENTH IS NOW CELEBRATED ANNUALLY ACROSS THE UNITED STATES ON THE WEEKEND NEAREST TO JUNE 19TH AND IS THE OLDEST CELEBRATION OF THE END OF SLAVERY IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
WHEREAS DURING JUNETEENTH CELEBRATIONS ACROSS THE SPACE COAST, THE LITTLE BLACK BOOK DRIVE, FOUNDED IN 2021 BY LOCAL JOURNALIST LINDA HUDSON, J.D.
GALLOP, AND ROLANDA HATCHETT, GALLOP DISTRIBUTES NEW DONATED BOOKS, BLACK ON BLACK HISTORY, STEM, AND OTHER TOPICS TO CHILDREN AGES 3 TO 18.
EDUCATION AND COMMUNITY GROUNDED IN THE MEANING OF JUNETEENTH WITH ITS SMALL ARMY OF VOLUNTEERS, MANY OF WHICH ARE RIGHT HERE ALONGSIDE ME.
THE LITTLE BLACK BOOK DRIVES GOAL IS TO IGNITE AND NURTURE A LOVE FOR READING AND PROVIDE A GATEWAY TO INTELLECTUAL AND FINANCIAL FREEDOM. NOW, THEREFORE, I, ROBERT MEDINA MAYOR.
OF THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH WE CALL PALM BAY.
BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY SAID OFFICE, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM JUNE 19TH, 2024, AS JUNETEENTH CELEBRATION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND URGE ALL OUR CITIZENS TO BECOME MORE AWARE OF THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS CELEBRATION IN AFRICAN AMERICAN HISTORY AND IN THE HERITAGE OF OUR NATION AND CITY AND WITNESS HEREOF I SET MY HAND AND CAUSE THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO BE AFFIXED THIS 25TH DAY OF JUNE, 2024.
WHEN WE STARTED THE LITTLE BLACK BOOK DRIVE, ALL WE WERE THINKING ABOUT WERE KIDS.
WE WERE THINKING ABOUT OUR FUTURE IN THIS COUNTRY, IN THIS STATE, IN THIS CITY.
AND WE WERE THINKING OF HOW WE CAN HELP THEM TO BROADEN THEIR HORIZONS, TO SEE THAT THEY'RE NOT ALONE IN THE WORLD, THAT THERE ARE DIFFERENT TYPES OF REALITIES OUT THERE, AND THAT THEY SHOULD FOSTER A LOVE FOR READING.
READING TO UNDERSTAND THE WORLD AROUND THEM, AND THEN ALSO READING TO HELP THEM SO THAT WHEN THEY BECOME CITIZENS AND CAN VOTE, THEY CAN READ THE BALLOTS.
SO WE ARE VERY PROUD TO STAND HERE TODAY.
THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL.
AND WE JUST REALLY APPRECIATE THIS HONOR.
BUT WE ALSO SAY WE'RE GOING TO KEEP GOING.
SO IF ANY OF YOU WANT TO JOIN US, WE'RE AROUND AND WE APPRECIATE THIS.
YES. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A PHOTO.
OKAY. COUNCIL, WOULD YOU STEP DOWN? DOWN THIS WAY. SO WE COULD ALL KNOW.
INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, THE PROCLAMATION READS FREEDOM.
WHEN YOU WHEN YOU HELP CHILDREN GATHER BOOKS THAT ARE INTERESTING AND READING.
COME ON IN. LET'S ALL JUST GATHER TOGETHER, PRETEND WE LOVE ONE ANOTHER.
DON'T HAVE TO PRETEND YOU HEARD US.
SHE SAID WE DON'T HAVE TO PRETEND.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I'LL GIVE THIS TO JEFF, PLEASE.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU NOW. I KNOW WHERE YOU WENT.
APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. GOD BLESS YOU.
OUR NEXT PROCLAMATION IS FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS APPRECIATION WEEK.
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BRING YOUR TEAM.THESE ARE THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT PROTECT OUR STREETS WITH CODE.
AND IT'S RIGHT THAT WE RECOGNIZE AND COMMEND YOU DURING THIS WEEK.
IT IS CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS APPRECIATION WEEK.
YOU GUYS KNOW I'M AD LIBBING THAT, RIGHT? WHEREAS CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS PROVIDE FOR THE SAFETY, HEALTH AND WELFARE OF ALL CITIZENS IN THIS COMMUNITY THROUGH THE ENFORCEMENT OF BUILDING, ZONING, HOUSING, FIRE, SAFETY, ENVIRONMENTAL AND OTHER CODES AND ORDINANCES.
AND WHEREAS CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS ARE OFTEN NOT CREDITED, CREDITED FOR THE JOBS THEY DO IN SAVING LIVES AND IMPROVING OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. AND WHEREAS, EVERY DAY, ASSISTED BY A SUPPORT AND PROGRAM STAFF, CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS PROVIDE QUALITY CUSTOMER SERVICE TO THE PUBLIC FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE COMMUNITY.
AND WHEREAS TOO MANY TIMES CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS HARD WORK GOES UNNOTICED EVEN AFTER CODE COMPLIANCE HAS BEEN ACCOMPLISHED DUE TO THEIR EFFORTS AND EXPERTISE.
AND WHEREAS CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS ARE DEDICATED, WELL TRAINED, HIGHLY RESPONSIBLE INDIVIDUALS WHO TAKE THEIR JOBS SERIOUSLY AND ARE PROUD OF THEIR DEPARTMENTS AND THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS IN WHICH THEY SERVE.
AND WHEREAS THE FLORIDA ASSOCIATION OF THE CODE ENFORCEMENT HAS DECLARED THE FIRST WEEK OF JUNE BE SET ASIDE BY LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO HONOR AND RECOGNIZE THEIR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS.
NOW, THEREFORE, I, ROBERT MEDINA, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY OF SAID OFFICE, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE WEEK OF JUNE 3RD THROUGH THE SEVENTH AS CODE ENFORCEMENT LAW.
CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS APPRECIATION WEEK.
I ALMOST THREW IN THE LAW ENFORCEMENT IN THERE.
DID YOU CATCH THAT? IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE STATEWIDE OBSERVANCE OF THE SAME, AND ENCOURAGE ALL OUR CITIZENS TO JOIN AND EXPRESSING APPRECIATION FOR THE DEDICATION AND OUTSTANDING SERVICE PROVIDED BY THE INDIVIDUALS WHO SERVE AS OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, I HEREBY SET MY HAND AND CAUSE THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO BE AFFIXED THIS 25TH 25TH DAY OF JUNE, 2024.
AND NOW I'M CALLING UP THE MANAGER OF OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, MISS VALERIE PARSONS.
WELL. I'M VERY PROUD TO BE THE DIVISION MANAGER FOR CODE COMPLIANCE, AND I COULD NOT HAVE DONE THIS WITHOUT MY WONDERFUL STAFF, MY CODE OFFICERS AND MY ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF. WE ARE LIKE FAMILY AND I AM VERY PROUD OF THEM AND I WOULDN'T BE THE MANAGER I AM TODAY WITHOUT THEIR SUPPORT.
COME. SO. COME ON, COME ON, LET'S GO GUYS.
IT'S NOT THAT COMPLICATED, GUY.
I THINK I GAVE IT TO HER ALREADY.
SO THIS IS OUR LAST PROCLAMATION FOR THE EVENING.
IT IS PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH.
FRED, POPPY AND TEAM, COME ON UP.
I GOTTA COVER UP THIS PART. IT IS HEREBY PROCLAIMED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, THAT WHEREAS PARKS AND RECREATION IS AN INTEGRAL PART OF COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT OUR COUNTRY, INCLUDING THE CITY OF PALM BAY, FLORIDA, AND WHEREAS, PARKS AND RECREATION PROMOTES HEALTH AND WELLNESS, IMPROVING THE PHYSICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE NEAR PARKS.
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WHEREAS PARKS AND RECREATION PROMOTES TIME SPENT IN NATURE, WHICH POSITIVELY IMPACTS MENTAL HEALTH BY INCREASING COGNITIVE PERFORMANCE AND WELL-BEING, AND ALLEVIATING ILLNESSES SUCH AS DEPRESSION, ATTENTION DEFICIT DISORDERS, AND ALZHEIMER'S DISEASE.WHEREAS PARKS AND RECREATION ENCOURAGES PHYSICAL ACTIVITIES BY PROVIDING SPACE FOR POPULAR SPORTS.
AND MANY OTHER ACTIVITIES DESIGNED TO PROMOTE ACTIVE LIFESTYLES.
AND WHEREAS, PARKS AND RECREATION PROGRAMING EDUCATIONAL ACTIVITIES SUCH AS OUT OF SCHOOL TIME, PROGRAMING, YOUTH SPORTS AND ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION ARE CRITICAL TO CHILDHOOD DEVELOPMENT.
AND WHEREAS PARKS AND RECREATION INCREASES A COMMUNITY'S ECONOMIC PROSPERITY THROUGH INCREASED PROPERTY VALUES, EXPANSION OF LOCAL TAX BASE, INCREASED TOURISM, THE ATTRACTION AND RETENTION OF BUSINESSES, AND CRIME REDUCTION.
ISN'T THAT COOL? GIVING KIDS AN OUTLET SO THAT THEY ARE ENTERTAINED.
I CAN GO ON ABOUT THAT, YOU KNOW.
AND WHEREAS PARKS AND RECREATION IS ESSENTIAL AND ADAPTABLE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT MAKES OUR COMMUNITIES RESILIENT IN THE FACE OF A NATURAL DISASTER AND CLIMATE CHANGE.
AND WHEREAS OUR PARKS AND NATURAL RECREATION AREAS ENSURE ECOLOGICAL BEAUTY OF OUR COMMUNITY AND PROVIDE A PLACE FOR CHILDREN AND ADULTS TO CONNECT WITH NATURE AND RECREATE OUTDOORS OR RECREATE OUTDOORS.
WHEREAS THE US HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES HAS DESIGNATED JULY AS PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH.
ROBERT MEDINA, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY OF SAID OFFICE, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF JULY 2024 AS PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, AND URGE ALL OUR CITIZENS TO ACTIVELY PARTICIPATE IN PARKS AND RECREATION ACTIVITIES AND SUPPORT PROGRAMS THAT WORK TOWARDS CREATING HEALTHY COMMUNITIES AND IMPROVE THE WELL-BEING OF OUR CITIZENS AND OUR CITY AS A WHOLE.
I SET MY RIGHT HAND OR MY HAND, AND CAUSE THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO BE AFFIXED THIS 25TH DAY OF JUNE, 2024. FRED, COME ON UP AND RECEIVE THIS PROCLAMATION.
THANK YOU SIR. HOLD THAT FOR ME.
SO I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF RECEIVING THIS PROCLAMATION ON BEHALF OF OF ALL THE EMPLOYEES.
THIS IS THE 10TH YEAR IN A ROW I'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO THIS.
IT'S TOO BAD MARIO IS NOT HERE.
AND WE COLLABORATE ON A LOT OF INITIATIVES.
SO WITH US UP HERE IS GREG MINOR, THE PARKS AND FACILITIES DIRECTOR, AND SOME OF HIS STAFF THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE COORDINATION BETWEEN THE DEPARTMENTS IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO DELIVER THE SERVICES.
I MEAN, WE DEPEND HEAVILY ON THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, ALL THE PARKS ARE CLEAN AND SAFE AND, AND THEY THEY PROVIDE A LOT OF LOGISTICAL SUPPORT FOR ALL THE SPECIAL EVENTS THAT WE DO.
BUT I WANT TO POINT OUT SOMETHING.
OKAY? SO PLEASE LOOK US UP ON ON PLAY PALM BAY DOT ORG TO KEEP UP WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT EVENTS AND PROGRAMS AND THINGS THAT WE HAVE. SO.
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OH.SO IT'LL BE FROM 5 TO 9 AT EAST FLORIDA STATE COLLEGE.
THANKS. SO BEFORE WE WE CONCLUDE, I JUST WANT TO SHARE THE PASSION BEHIND THESE INDIVIDUALS.
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RIGHT. AND PART OF THAT, I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO HONOR THE RECREATION DIRECTOR, FRED POPPY, 50 YEARS OF SERVICE TO THIS GREAT CITY.I BELIEVE HE WAS FIVE WHEN HE FIRST STARTED.
CHILD LABOR LAWS PREVENTED THAT.
AND THAT'S THE PASSION THAT WE HAVE WITHIN OUR CITY.
THANK YOU. AND THAT PRODUCTION WAS DONE BY ANDY DIMON.
[PUBLIC HEARINGS:]
OKAY. WE ARE NOW ON PUBLIC HEARINGS, MADAM SMITH.AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, VACATING AND ABANDONING A PORTION OF THE REAR 20 FOOT PUBLIC UTILITY AND DRAINAGE EASEMENT LOCATED WITHIN LOT 19, BLOCK 1107, PORT MALABAR, UNIT 23.
ACCORDING TO THE PLAT THEREOF, AS RECORDED IN PLAT BOOK 16, PAGE 20.
I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.
IS THE APPLICANT HERE? SAY AGAIN. COME ON UP.
WE'RE. ARE YOU, MISS DENISE? YES, I'M. I WOULD LIKE TO BUILD A SWIMMING POOL IN MY BACKYARD, AND THE PUBLIC WORKS HAD A 20 FOOT EASEMENT.
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE EIGHT FEET OF THE EASEMENT TO BUILD THE POOL.
ANY QUESTIONS COUNSEL? THANK YOU MA'AM.
THAT'S IT. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE. I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION.
GOT TO GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.
ALRIGHT. PASSES THREE 0 OR 4 ZERO AS YOU WERE.
COUNCILMAN FOSTER IS ON THE LINE.
WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER TWO, MADAM SMITH.
THE FOLLOWING I'S ARE QUASI JUDICIAL IN NATURE.
AGENDA ITEMS NUMBERS TWO, FOUR AND FIVE.
COUNSEL SHOULD DISCLOSE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION BY DISCLOSING THE SUBJECT MATTER OF THE COMMUNICATION AND THE IDENTITY OF THE PERSON, GROUP OR ENTITY WITH WHOM THE COMMUNICATION TOOK PLACE.
THE ORDER OF THIS PROCEEDING WILL BE AS FOLLOWS.
ANY SPEAKER MAY BE SUBJECT TO CROSS-EXAMINATION BY THE COUNCIL OR ANY OTHER INTERESTED PARTY.
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ANY OTHER PERSON MAY SPEAK FOR A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES.THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE ALLOWED CONCLUDING REMARKS FOR A MAXIMUM OF TEN MINUTES.
THE HEARING WILL THEN BE CLOSED AND NO ADDITIONAL TESTIMONY OR ARGUMENT WILL BE ALLOWED.
THE COUNCIL WILL THEN DELIBERATE IN PUBLIC.
EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER IS THEN FREE TO VOTE IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION.
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BY CHANGING THE ZONING OF PROPERTY FROM GU. GENERAL USE HOLDING DISTRICT TO CC COMMUNITY.
PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.
THANK YOU. I'M THE CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT, JAKE WISE, YOU KNOW.
CAN I DO THIS REALLY COOL THING? THANK YOU. AND BUSINESS ADDRESS IS 2651 WEST EAU GALLIE BOULEVARD IN MELBOURNE.
BEFORE I WENT INTO THE DETAILS OF THE PROJECT WE HAD TWO AGENDA ITEMS TONIGHT.
THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE.
WE DID REQUEST A TABLE THAT SO THAT WE COULD HAVE TWO READINGS ON THE ZONING FIRST.
BUT WE WANT TO INTRODUCE YOU TO THE OVERALL PROJECT.
BEFORE I DIVE INTO THE DETAILS, I WANTED TO INTRODUCE ADAM SAWYER.
YES. I GOTTA TAKE THIS DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JASON LINSCOTT.
I'M ADAMS. MY, MY MY PARTNER, LONGTIME PARTNER WHO WAS HERE AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING WHICH IS REFERRED TO WE ARE A FAMILY BASED COMPANY AND HAVE BEEN IN THE REAL ESTATE BUSINESS FOR A COUPLE OF GENERATIONS.
WE'VE BEEN DOING SELF-STORAGE FOR A LITTLE OVER 15 YEARS AND HAVE DEVELOPED, I THINK ABOUT 75 OF THESE PROJECTS OVER THE LAST 15 YEARS REALLY ALL OVER THE EAST COAST OUT OF ATLANTA.
WE HAVE ABOUT A DOZEN PROJECTS IN FLORIDA.
WE'RE A BIG FOCUS IN FLORIDA RIGHT NOW.
OR FOR FOR A LITTLE WHILE NOW, WE ALSO DEVELOP MULTIFAMILY AND RETAIL AS WELL.
WHATEVER MAKES MAKES YOU FEEL GOOD.
BUT WE SO WE, OUR COMPANY IS SET UP WHERE WE, WE ACTUALLY FIND THESE LOCATIONS.
AND THEN WE ALSO BUILD THE PROJECT, AND THEN WE MANAGE THE PROJECT, OWN THE PROJECT AND OPERATE IT.
SO WE HAVE YOU KNOW, THE BRAND ON THE, ON THE BUILDING IS OUR BRAND.
IT'S CALLED THE SPACE SHOP STORAGE.
ALL THE EMPLOYEES ARE OUR EMPLOYEES ALL OVER.
AND WE HAVE DISTRICT MANAGERS IN FLORIDA AS WELL THAT TRAVEL TO ALL OF OUR PROPERTIES.
SO THAT'S SORT OF HOW WE'RE SET UP.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE NOT A SORT OF A BIG INSTITUTIONAL COMPANY.
IT'S A REALLY FAMILY OWNED COMPANY, AND WE OPERATE OUR OWN STORES.
YOU KNOW, SELF-STORAGE IS AN INTERESTING PRODUCT.
IT'S YOU GUYS HAVE PROBABLY SEEN IT'S EVOLVED A LOT OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS WHERE IT USED TO BE SORT OF METAL ROLL UP DOORS AND CHAIN LINK FENCES AND IT'S NOW A REALLY MORE OF A CLASS, A COMMUNITY.
YOU KNOW, SORT OF A COMMUNITY DRIVEN PRODUCT MEANING IT'S SORT OF AN EXTENSION OF PEOPLE'S HOMES.
UTILIZATION RATES FOR STORAGE HAVE GONE UP DRAMATICALLY OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS.
IT USED TO BE SOMETHING LIKE 4%, MEANING LIKE FOUR OUT OF EVERY 100 PEOPLE USE STORAGE.
NOW IT'S CLOSE. IT'S PUSHING 13, 14.
IT JUST KEEPS CONTINUING TO GO UP.
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I THINK IT'S BECAUSE WE'VE ALL BUILT WE'RE BUILDING NICER PRODUCTS, NOT JUST US, BUT OTHERS TOO.YOU KNOW, OUR OUR BUILDINGS LOOK REALLY NICE.
NO TWO OF OUR BUILDINGS LOOK ALIKE.
THEY'RE ALL SORT OF CUSTOM DESIGNED FOR THAT COMMUNITY.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN WHEN WE'RE IN FLORIDA, WE'RE IN GEORGIA, WE'RE IN SOUTH CAROLINA.
THEY'RE DIFFERENT ARCHITECTURE DEPENDING ON THE AREA.
SO THERE'S NO OUTDOOR STORAGE UNITS AT ALL.
AND, AND THIS TYPE OF LOCATION IS REALLY WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A REALLY LONG TIME.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, PROBABLY A YEAR AND A HALF FOR THIS PARTICULAR SITE.
AND IT'S AND IT'S IT'S INTERESTING.
THEY'RE THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, A MAJOR COMMITMENT.
AND THE METHODOLOGY REALLY IS UNDERSTANDING THE DEMAND OF A COMMUNITY, OF A TRADE AREA.
AND IT'S WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO HAVE THIS PRODUCT TO STORE, YOU KNOW, HOLIDAY STUFF AND, YOU KNOW, JUST EXTRA THINGS WHEN KIDS MIGHT HAVE THREE KIDS THAT JUST WENT TO COLLEGE, YOU KNOW, AND THEY JUST CAME HOME AND BROUGHT ALL THEIR STUFF THIS SUMMER, AND IT'S LIKE, YOU NEED SPACE FOR THAT STUFF.
SO YOU WANT TO BE IN, IN THE COMMUNITY WHICH THIS SITE IS REALLY PERFECT BECAUSE IT'S IT HAS NOT BEEN A GREAT RETAIL LOCATION BECAUSE IT'S OUT OF THE RETAIL CORRIDOR. RIGHT.
IT'S MORE QUASI INTO THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY, RIGHT NEXT TO THE TO THE DMV, AS YOU GUYS KNOW.
SO YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW NOT REALLY GREAT RETAIL OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE SITE.
SO WE LOVE THESE SITES BECAUSE WE SEE OUR STORES AS RETAIL.
I MEAN, OUR CUSTOMERS ARE THE COMMUNITY.
SO TO US, WE CALL THEM STORES.
THEY ARE SO THIS IS A THIS IS A GREAT LOCATION FOR THAT.
YOU KNOW, WE GENERATE GENERALLY ANYWHERE FROM 12 TO 15 TRIPS A DAY.
YOU KNOW, FOLKS DON'T GO TO THE SELF-STORAGE FACILITY EVERY DAY, RIGHT.
AND REGULARLY SO YOU DON'T GENERATE MUCH TRAFFIC.
THEREFORE YOU DON'T HAVE A HUGE PARKING NEED.
WE'LL GENERALLY HAVE BETWEEN 2 AND 3 EMPLOYEES DEPENDING ON DEMAND.
BUT THIS WOULD BE TWO, TWO, TWO AND A HALF EMPLOYEES, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND THOSE AGAIN ARE OUR EMPLOYEES OF OUR MANAGEMENT COMPANY.
SO THIS PARTICULAR AREA, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD HAVE LIKE A ABOUT A THREE MILE TRADE AREA, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT JUST THIS PERFECT CIRCLE WE ACTUALLY DRAW BASED ON DRIVE TIME AND WHERE TRAFFIC PATTERNS ARE. BUT LET'S JUST SAY IT'S ABOUT THREE MILES.
SO THAT'S VERY LOW SUPPLY FOR THIS, THIS AREA.
YOU KNOW, FOLKS HAVE TO GO WAY NORTH TO GET TO ANY STORAGE.
THERE'S NOTHING REALLY IN THE COMMUNITY EXCEPT FOR MR..
STUART. RIGHT OVER BY THE THE PUBLIX AND BAYSIDE.
SO AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
IF YOU HAVE MARKET QUESTIONS ABOUT DEMAND, SUPPLY, HOW WE OPERATE, ANY OF THOSE THINGS.
OKAY. COUNCIL ANY QUESTIONS? NO. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
HEY, WE'RE ON HOLD. ALL RIGHT.
REALLY? YOU KIND OF ANSWERED IT.
I'M NOT A FAN OF SELF STORAGE.
I'LL BE HONEST. THE COUNCIL KNOWS THAT AS WELL.
AND WE DO HAVE MR. STORAGE. BUT IS IT, IS IT AT MAX CAPACITY? AND I WAS GOING TO I WAS GOING TO ASK THAT THAT QUESTION SPECIFICALLY.
COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, I KNOW YOU DID YOUR DEMOGRAPHICS.
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YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU THERE'S ONE THERE.WHAT'S THEIR CAPACITY? ARE THEY AT CAPACITY OR DO YOU KNOW, DO YOU KNOW.
SO AND WE'LL MYSTERY SHOP STORES, YOU KNOW, AS CUSTOMERS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE STATUS IS OF MR. TODAY. WHEN WE SHOPPED IT THEY HAD A WAITING LIST.
SO THEY'RE DOING REALLY WELL THERE.
GOOD MIX OF OUTDOOR STORAGE, MEANING LIKE OUTDOOR ACCESS AND INDOOR.
WE ALSO WENT OUTSIDE OF OUR TRADE AREA TO ALL THE STORES TO THE NORTH.
THEY'RE BIG COMPANY, GREAT COMPANY OUT OF UTAH.
KNOWN THOSE GUYS FOR 15 YEARS, AND WE CAN CALL THEM AND ACTUALLY ASK THEM FOR THEIR RENT ROLL.
AND IN THIS, IN THIS INDUSTRY, REALLY 90% IS FULL.
WE HAVE FIVE BY FIVES, FIVE BY TENS, TEN BY TENS, TEN BY 20 IS DIFFERENT SIZE UNITS.
THE LARGEST UNIT WILL BE A TEN BY 30.
IF YOU ARE 95%, YOU LIKELY HAVE SEVERAL UNIT TYPES THAT ARE FULL 100%.
RIGHT? SO 90% IS 90, 92% IS GENERALLY CONSIDERED FULL.
THE VERY FIRST ONE IS I NOTICED IN YOUR CP THE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PLAN, YOU HAVE TWO STAFFERS, RIGHT? YOU HAVE TWO FOLKS AND I DIDN'T SEE ANY CITIZEN PARTICIPATION.
WERE THE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATIONS THAT ARE IN BAYSIDE LAKES, WERE THEY APPROACHED? WE HAD A COMMUNITY MEETING.
CORRECT. I DIDN'T SEE ANYBODY IN ATTENDANCE.
AND SO WE HAVEN'T REALLY HOW HOW IN DEPTH WAS THAT NOTICE I KNOW WHAT IS IT SUPPOSED TO BE? 500FT, BUT MAYBE 500FT ISN'T, YOU KNOW, FROM THE PROPERTY.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE NOTIFIED.
YEAH. AND I GUESS I GUESS JAKE ANSWERED THAT.
YEAH. SO SO THE IT IS A 500 FOOT RADIUS.
NOTICE WE HAVEN'T BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE BAYSIDE LAKES PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION BECAUSE WE DO HAVE TO GET THEIR PERMISSION AS WELL FOR THE ARCHITECTURE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. IT NOTIFIED THE PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION TO THE EAST.
AND THEN WE DO POST SIGNS AS WELL.
AND YOU KNOW HOW WELL TRAVELED THIS AREA IS.
YOU KNOW HOW PEOPLE SIT IN TRAFFIC THERE QUITE A BIT.
SO THE SIDE NOTE APPLICATIONS WERE OBVIOUSLY THERE AS WELL AND WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYBODY ATTEND.
OKAY. SO JUST ABOUT ALL THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS WERE WITHIN THAT RADIUS OR DID WE JUST HIT ONE? I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO ASK JAKE.
YEAH. THERE'S ONLY ONE WITHIN A 500 FOOT RADIUS, SO ONLY THE ONE WAS NOTIFIED BY THE MAILINGS? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. JUST ONE.
ALL RIGHT, THEN MY NEXT QUESTION IS YOU YOU MENTIONED A REALLY WELCOMING RECEPTION AREA WITH FREE COFFEE AND ALL THAT.
HOW MANY JOBS ARE YOU GOING TO CREATE WITHIN YOUR COMPANY? TWO. TWO AND A HALF.
AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE I'VE, I'VE, I'VE STOOD BEFORE.
SURE. SO YOU KNOW TO ME I, I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO SEE LIKE A BIG RESTAURANT THERE.
HAS ENOUGH PARKING SPACE, YOU KNOW, GIVE THE RESIDENTS NEARBY SOMETHING LARGE.
BUT CARRY ON, YOU KNOW, TO WE DO A LOT OF RETAIL DEVELOPMENT, DO A LOT OF MULTIFAMILY.
I'VE DONE A LOT OF RESTAURANTS AND DIFFERENT TYPES OF RESTAURANTS, SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS.
WE WE DO EVERYTHING FROM, YOU KNOW, THE FAST CASUALS THAT YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH.
I'VE DONE A BUNCH OF CHIPOTLE'S AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
THIS THIS SITE IS A REAL STRUGGLE FOR THAT.
AND I'LL LET PAT SPEAK TO THAT.
THE OWNER SHE'S OWNED THIS PROPERTY FOR 20 YEARS.
IT'S JUST A TOUGH SITE FOR THAT.
WHAT MAKES IT TOUGH? IT'S THE LOCATION. THEY.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE A RESTAURATEUR AND I COME TO YOU AND SAY, I'M GOING TO DO THIS, AND THEY GOT TO INVEST A LOT OF MONEY IN THIS THING, RIGHT? TO, TO TO DO THAT, TO DO THAT AND BE SUCCESSFUL, THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO BE CLOSER TO PUBLIX AND BE ON THE RETAIL CORRIDOR, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE PEOPLE ARE AND THAT'S WHERE THE PEOPLE ARE GOING.
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BUT YOU HAVE THERE'S LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW YOUR BUSINESS, BUT I SEE THAT THERE'S MANY HEADS, MANY BEDS, MANY ROOFS DOWN RANGE FROM WHERE THAT LOCATION IS.SO I WOULD VENTURE THAT THEY WOULD COME OUT TO EAT CHOW IN THAT.
YEAH. IT'S YOU KNOW, IF THERE WAS AN EXISTING BUILDING THERE AND YOU'RE GOING TO RENOVATE IT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE BECAUSE YOU'D HAVE A LOWER COST, YOU KNOW, TO SOMETHING, BUT TO BUILD A NEW BUILDING AND FOR A RESTAURATEUR TO INVEST, TO BUILD OUT A NEW BUILDING YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO GET THAT TYPE OF USE ESPECIALLY GROUND UP AWAY FROM THE RETAIL CORRIDOR.
IT'S NOT IN THE RETAIL CORRIDOR.
THEY WANT TO BE NEAR THE ENERGY, THE ACTION, OTHER RETAILERS.
BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO DO, YOU KNOW, YOUR GROCERY SHOPPING OR YOU'RE DOING YOUR OTHER RETAIL ERRANDS, YOU WANT TO BE NEAR THAT STUFF, RIGHT? AND THAT'S THE YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE SORT OF SYNERGY YOU WANT AS AN OPERATOR OF A RESTAURANT.
IT'S REALLY TOUGH TO DO SOMETHING OUT OF THE MIX.
AND I'LL LET PAT SPEAK TO IT. SHE HAS MORE EXPERIENCE WITH THE ACTUAL PROPERTY THAN I DO.
SIR. SO DEPUTY MAYOR, YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT? HEY, I DO, YEAH. GO AHEAD.
THANK YOU. WELL, OUT OF CURIOSITY, DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW THE DISTANCE FROM THE EXISTING.
WE HAVE TWO EXISTING AS YOU ENTER BAYSIDE BOULEVARD.
AS YOU ENTER BAYSIDE, WE HAVE TWO STORAGE UNITS.
I MEAN, TWO STORAGE COMPANIES.
YEAH. TWO SITES. RIGHT? YEAH. SAME. SAME OWNER.
IF YOU WOULD MEASURE ONE FROM THE CURRENT SITE, YOUR PROPOSED SITE, HOW MANY FEET WOULD YOU SAY THAT IS? IT'S PROBABLY ABOUT HALF A MILE.
YOU SAY DANIEL. SO ROUGHLY ABOUT 3000.
I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, OFF TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT THAT FEELS ABOUT RIGHT.
OKAY. I'M A RESIDENT OF BAYSIDE.
BUT HAVING ANOTHER STORAGE UNIT RIGHT THERE I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A PROPER LOCATION.
I MEAN, WE CAN ARGUE THAT I'M NOT A PROFESSIONAL.
AND BASED ON YOUR EXPERTISE, THAT'S THE BEST FIT FOR THAT COMMUNITY.
YEAH, I THINK IT'S I THINK, YOU KNOW, FOR A LOT OF REASONS, IT'S A GREAT USE OF THE PROPERTY.
AND THEN THERE'S WETLANDS IN THE BACK THAT THE CITY OR THE COUNTY OWNS.
IT'S MUNICIPALLY OWNED, INSTITUTIONALLY OWNED.
SO YOU'RE SORT OF SANDWICHED IN THERE.
IT'S IT'S MID-BLOCK, MEANING IT'S NOT AT AN INTERSECTION THAT'S GENERALLY TOUGH FOR COMMERCIAL MID-BLOCK LOCATIONS BECAUSE FOLKS ARE JUST GOING, YOU KNOW YOU ALWAYS NOTICE THE HIGHER INTENSITY COMMERCIAL IS GOING TO BE NEAR THE CORNERS, RIGHT? YOUR YOUR DRUGSTORES AND YOUR, YOU KNOW, CHICK FIL A'S AND PUBLIX AND THOSE THINGS.
IT'S RIGHT WHERE THE ROAD NARROWS.
IT GOES FROM TWO LANES TO ONE LANE.
YOU KNOW, AS IT GOES ACROSS THE WATERWAY, IT GETS TIGHT.
SO ANY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC GOING OUT OF THERE, I THINK IT CAUSES PROBLEMS. AND, YOU KNOW, THIS PRODUCT IS REALLY AN EXTENSION OF FOLKS HOMES.
SO WHAT WE'VE WE'VE, YOU KNOW, ALL OF OUR TENANTS AND THIS IS HOW WE TREAT IT WITH THEM.
YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY AN EXTENSION OF THEIR HOME.
SO YOU REALLY THE PRODUCT CLOSER TO RESIDENTIAL IS BETTER.
SO IT'S A DIFFERENT IT'S A GREAT TRANSITIONAL USE.
IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A PRODUCT THAT SERVES RESIDENTIAL NEEDS.
AND IT'S SORT OF QUASI RETAIL.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE CALL OUR PROPERTY STORES BECAUSE WE SERVE THE COMMUNITY.
AND IT SORT OF FITS WITHIN THOSE TRANSITIONAL AREAS.
SO I THINK THIS SITE FITS PERFECT FOR THAT.
SO IT REALLY LOOKS I THINK IT LOOKS VERY ATTRACTIVE.
AND IT HAS SORT OF THE FLORIDA VERNACULAR.
YOU KNOW EXPOSURE TO THE RIGHT THERE.
AND, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T CREATE TRAFFIC.
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IT'S VERY QUIET.YOU'RE NOT NO NOXIOUS USES, NO BANDS OUTSIDE PLAYING MUSIC.
WE DON'T HAVE DUMPSTERS AND DUMPSTER TRUCKS COMING THROUGH.
YOU DON'T HAVE DELIVERIES ALL THE TIME FOR FOOD.
AND, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS WHY THAT AGAIN WHAT WE FOUND IN ALL THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS IS, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE IN THAT TRANSITIONAL USE BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL, IT'S NICE BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE ALL OF THAT COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY, MEANING, LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU DO A RESTAURANT, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE DELIVERIES ALL THE TIME, RIGHT? AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE DURING NORMAL HOURS.
RIGHT. BECAUSE YOU NEED THEM OFF HOURS.
YOU CAN HAVE TRASH TRUCKS COMING EVERY DAY BECAUSE THE DUMPSTERS FILL UP FAST WITH RESTAURANTS.
SO IT'S A NICE TRANSITION BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THAT THAT TYPE OF STUFF.
AND I GUESS THAT'S MORE OF A QUESTION FOR STAFF IN TERMS OF THE SETBACK.
IS THERE WAS THERE ANY PLAN TO IMPROVEMENT TO IMPROVE THAT, THAT CORRIDOR, MAYBE ADDING LANES OR WHAT'S THE SETBACK OF THIS PROPERTY? I CAN SEE IF OUR GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR MIGHT HAVE THAT INFORMATION AVAILABLE OR JAKE IS HERE.
AND RIGHT NOW THE MINIMUM FRONT SETBACK, FOR EXAMPLE, IS 30FT.
WE'RE NOT TRYING TO GET UP ON THE ROAD.
WE HAVE OVER ALMOST THREE TIMES THE SETBACK.
ON THE TWO SIDES WERE THREE TIMES AND EIGHT TIMES THE MINIMUM SETBACK OF MINIMUMS. TEN. WE'RE OVER 30 AND OVER 80FT.
IT IS A VERY ESTHETIC, ATTRACTIVE LOOKING CLASS, A TYPE OF OFFICE BUILDING.
THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF FINISHES ON IT.
IT'S GOING TO LOOK AND FEEL LIKE THAT.
THIS SITE HAS SAT VACANT WITH BASICALLY NO BITES ON IT FOR DECADES.
I DID PINEAPPLE COVE ACROSS THE STREET.
I'VE DONE ODYSSEY SCHOOL MULTIPLE TIMES.
WE'RE DOING ANOTHER EXPANSION FOR THEM TODAY.
NEVER HAD ANYBODY EVEN KICK THE TIRES ON THIS SITE.
IT'S DEFINITELY NOT A GOOD RETAIL SITE.
SO THIS IS, IN MY OPINION, ONE OF THE BEST POSSIBLE SITES.
AND I CAN'T THINK OF ANOTHER SITE IN THIS AREA THAT WOULD BE BETTER.
I UNDERSTAND COUNCILMAN JOHNSON'S CONCERN.
I'VE WATCHED YOU GUYS AND OTHER SELF STORAGE'S NOT APPROVE THEM IN OTHER AREAS.
I AGREED WITH SOME OF YOUR OTHER AREAS.
IN THE MID BLOCK ONE IS A HUGE ONE FOR RETAIL AND FOR RESTAURANTS.
YOU JUST APPROVED A STARBUCKS SPACE COAST CREDIT UNIONS COMING, THINGS LIKE THAT.
THAT'S THE MAIN CORRIDOR, AND THAT'S JUST TAKING DECADES TO SLOWLY DEVELOP.
TRANSITION OF THE LANES DOESN'T HELP WITH THE TRAFFIC.
SO WE THINK ALL OF THOSE ARE POSITIVES FOR THIS SPECIFIC SITE.
AND AGAIN, I JUST DON'T THINK THERE'S A BETTER ONE FOR THIS USE IN THIS AREA.
BAYSIDE LAKES, WITH ALL THAT PENT UP DEMAND.
SO TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE 17 ACRES WEST OF THERE.
THAT'S ALL. IT'S ALL WETLANDS.
ALL WETLANDS CONSERVATION BREVARD COUNTY OWNED CAN BE DONE.
AND IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, THIS HAS SAT VACANT FOR DECADES.
IT'S AS YOU SAID, THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC THAT GOES BY.
AND THERE JUST HASN'T BEEN ANY INTEREST.
WE HAVE THE LANDOWNER HERE TONIGHT SO SHE CAN GIVE YOU A BETTER DETAILS THAN I CAN ABOUT THAT.
BUT TO HAVE AT LEAST A COMMERCIAL TAX BASE THERE INSTEAD OF NOTHING TO PROVIDE A COMMUNITY NEED INSTEAD OF NOTHING, WE JUST THINK IT'S THE BEST BENEFIT FOR THE FOR PALM BAY.
AND RIGHT NOW, I APPRECIATE THAT, SIR, BUT YOU KNOW, IT GETS TO ME IS IS I HAVEN'T I HAVEN'T SEEN THE RESIDENTS IN THE CP THAT WAS SUBMITTED AND NO ONE, NO ONE ATTENDED. SO I'M, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED WITH THAT.
SO YOU KNOW I'VE DONE DOZENS AND DOZENS OF THOSE.
WELL, THEY DIDN'T GET NOTIFIED.
THERE'S THREE OTHER HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION OUT THERE.
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RIGHT. WELL, THE MASTER ASSOCIATION WAS AND OF COURSE, THE ONE TO THE EAST I MENTIONED EARLIER.YOU'RE RIGHT THERE. WE DIDN'T REACH OUT TO EACH INDIVIDUAL.
SO IT'S LITERALLY RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.
NEVER RECEIVED ANY, ANY NOTICE.
THAT'S THAT'S A CONCERN AS WELL.
WHY DIDN'T I GET A NOTICE? SO YOU SAID THE NOTICE WAS SENT TO THE HOA.
AND THEN. SO THE PROPERTY OWNER'S ASSOCIATION TO THE EAST WOULD HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED.
IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD PLEASE COUNCIL.
WE COULD ACTUALLY TABLE TONIGHT.
WE HAVE TO COME BACK ANYWAY FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE.
AND THAT MIGHT GIVE YOU A HIGHER COMFORT LEVEL.
SO. COUNCILMAN FOSTER, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO, MA'AM. NOT AT THIS TIME.
KNOW THAT THAT PRETTY MUCH CONCLUDES MY MY, MY YOU KNOW.
OKAY. ARE THERE ANY SPEAKER CARDS, DEPUTY MAYOR? WILL ALLOW YOU TO REBUT AFTER THE SPEAKERS COME.
MY NAME IS PATRICIA BOLOGNA GARGIULO.
I AM ONE OF THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY.
WE'VE OWNED THE PROPERTY OVER 20 YEARS.
I ACTUALLY AM A FAMILY OWNED BUSINESS AS WELL.
I'VE BEEN IN BREVARD COUNTY SINCE 1978.
I PROBABLY BEAT A LOT OF YOU WITH THAT.
IN 1989 MY FATHER, GOD REST HIS SOUL, HE PASSED AWAY JUST THIS PAST FATHER'S DAY.
WOW. HE WORKED THREE JOBS HIS ENTIRE LIFE AND SAVED MONEY AND WANTED TO DO WHATEVER HE COULD HERE IN BREVARD COUNTY TO IMPROVE THE COUNTY BUILDING, DEVELOPING WHATEVER IT TOOK.
AND SO WE STARTED INVESTING IN REAL ESTATE IN 1989 HERE IN BREVARD COUNTY, ALL ACROSS THE COUNTY.
ROCKLEDGE, TITUSVILLE, DOWN HERE IN PALM BAY.
WE'VE DEVELOPED SHOPPING CENTERS, RETAIL SHOPPING CENTERS, OFFICE BUILDINGS AS WELL.
THAT WAS A REAL CRITERIA FOR US AS A FAMILY.
WE WANTED TO SEE THAT IT WASN'T SOME COMMERCIAL COMPANY THAT WAS GOING TO COME IN AND NOT REALLY CARE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY, AND THAT'S WHAT I REALLY LIKE ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR COMPANY.
THERE ARE A COUPLE OF OTHER CRITERIAS, THOUGH, THAT WERE IMPORTANT TO US.
WHAT WAS IT GOING TO LOOK LIKE THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO US? SO I WAS APPROACHED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, ACTUALLY TO PUT A DAY CARE CENTER AND SCHOOL.
AND SURE ENOUGH, CELIA PALM BAY, PLANNING AND ZONING TOLD THEM.
TOO MUCH TRAFFIC FOR THIS PARTICULAR SITE.
THAT WAS THE ONLY OTHER COMPANY IN ALL THESE YEARS.
AND THEY WERE THEY WERE A FAMILY BUSINESS TOO.
IT'S NOT LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE MAJOR CORRIDOR SO THAT THIS PROJECT AND AGAIN, THE OTHER THING I LIKE ABOUT IT IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. YOU KNOW, USUALLY YOU LOOK AT THESE STORAGE FACILITIES AND SOME OF THEM LOOK LIKE PRISONS TO ME.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T LIKE THE WAY THEY LOOK.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THEIR PICTURE, IT'S REALLY A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING.
SO FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE WE WANT TO SELL TO FAMILY OWNED BUSINESSES.
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AND THIS IS REALLY THE ONLY THE SECOND COMPANY.OKAY. SO JUST FIRST OF ALL, I'M SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS THIS PAST FATHER'S DAY.
YEAH. NOW, WAS YOUR FATHER A WORLD WAR TWO VETERAN? WAS SO I.
I HAD THE HONOR OF MEETING YOUR FATHER.
IS THAT CORRECT? HE GRADUATED.
OR HE LEFT HIGH SCHOOL TO GO FIGHT IN WORLD WAR TWO.
HE DID. OKAY, I I'M I'M DRAWING.
WHEN YOU MENTIONED YOUR MAIDEN NAME.
YES. IT IT IT CLICKED BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY INDIVIDUAL I KNOW THAT.
YES. YOU ARE SO GRACIOUS TO AWARD HIM HIS HONORARY HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA AT 95.
WOW. BUT YES, HE DID JUST PASS AT 97 ON FATHER'S DAY.
BUT IT WAS THROUGH HIS EFFORTS, THAT OF WORKING HARD AND, YOU KNOW, THE AMERICAN DREAM.
AND IN A WORLD WAR TWO WAR HERO.
FOR ALL THAT, FOR ALL YOUR EFFORTS AND AND AND IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS.
YES, MA'AM. I JUST I JUST HAD A FLASHBACK.
OH, COUNCIL. NO ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.
ARE YOU STILL GOOD? NO QUESTIONS.
ANOTHER SPEAKER. MR. ROBERT STICE.
1796 WINBURN DRIVE, SOUTHEAST.
I'M AN OUT OF BOX KIND OF GUY.
YOU GUYS KNOW HIM AND ANDY BOX KIND OF GUY.
I AM AN OUT OF BOX OUT OF BOX KIND OF GUY.
THANK YOU. THE WAY I TRY TO SOLVE PROBLEMS, THERE ARE 17 HOA'S IN SUMMERFIELD AND ABOUT 3000 PEOPLE.
THERE ARE SEVERAL WAYS TO COMMUNICATE WITH THEM.
YOU CAN ALSO GET THE WORD OUT TO THE PRESIDENTS OF EACH HOA.
SO SOME OF THEM HAVE BOARDS, SOME OF THEM HAVE MAILINGS, DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.
YOU DRIVE BY THEM EVERY DAY AND IT'S JUST NOT A GOOD FEELING.
I HATE PALM BAY TO BE LOOKED AT AS THE BEDROOM COMMUNITY AND THE CAR WASH COMMUNITY AND THE STORAGE UNIT, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY THERE IS A WAY TO REACH THESE PEOPLE.
SO HOW DO WE DO THAT? TO GET TWO PEOPLE SHOWING UP IS PATHETIC AT BEST.
SO, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN WE DO WITH REGARDLESS OF THE WAY WE THE WAY YOU GOING TO VOTE THIS EVENING? THE DEAL IS TO YOUR POINT, MR. MAYOR, IS THAT WE REALLY NEED TO MAKE A CONCERTED EFFORT TO GET THE FOLKS INVOLVED, BECAUSE YOU ALWAYS TALK ABOUT THE FOLKS, AND THAT TRULY IS WHAT IT'S ABOUT.
IT COULD BE THE LAST WEDNESDAY THAT REPRESENT EVERYBODY THAT'S MARRIED TO THEM, I.E.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU SIR.
BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.
FIRST, I'D LIKE TO APOLOGIZE FOR NOT FOR COMING IN LATE.
THAT'S NOT THE WAY I LIKE TO DO BUSINESS.
NUMBER TWO, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NOTIFICATION OF PEOPLE WITHIN A 500 FOOT RADIUS AND THEN SAYING, WELL, WHY DIDN'T THIS COMPANY DO MORE THAN THAT? HOW MANY TIMES HAVE I COME BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL AND SAID, YOU'RE CHANGING THE ZONING OF THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY, YOU'RE CHANGING THE ZONING OF IT, AND YOU SAY, WELL, WE ONLY HAVE TO GO 500FT OUT, AND YOU MIGHT GET THREE RESIDENTS OUT ON THE RURAL RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, IF THAT.
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BUT YOU DIDN'T SEEM TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT NOTIFYING ALL THE AFFECTED RESIDENTS THAT ALL THIS TRAFFIC WAS GOING TO BE COMING ONTO.YOU WEREN'T CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
SO WHY SHOULD WE NOW BE CONCERNED ON WHY THIS ONE COMPANY DOESN'T HAVE TO DO EXTRA WORK? BECAUSE YOU WANTED MORE PEOPLE TO BE UPSET.
I'D LIKE TO SEE THE SAME CONCERN.
WE WANT TO SEE MORE PEOPLE UPSET ABOUT NEW DEVELOPMENT COMING IN.
I WANT TO SEE MORE PEOPLE UPSET WHEN WE'RE GOING TO SEE TREES IN DIAMETERS 15FT IN DIAMETERS, BEING TAKEN DOWN BY BUILDING DEPARTMENTS WHERE YOUR CITY APPROVES THEIR, THE DEVELOPMENT, STUFF LIKE THAT.
RESTAURANTS RIGHT NOW ARE FAILING.
THE ONLY BUSINESS THAT'S SUCCEEDING RIGHT NOW HAPPENS TO BE STORAGE UNITS.
THEY'RE LOW IMPACT ON TRAFFIC.
THEY'RE LOW IMPACT ON DAILY INTERRUPTION.
IT INCREASES YOUR TAX REVENUE WITH A BUSINESS THAT DOESN'T HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT.
IS IT WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE? MAYBE NOT, BUT I'VE WATCHED ALL THE FAILURES WITHIN THE CITY BECAUSE YOU GAVE OTHER THINGS.
BUT WHY IS THIS ONE BUSINESS A BAD BUSINESS? YOU KNOW, I'M I THINK THEY MADE A GOOD CHOICE ON BEING HERE.
AND I SPEAK AGAINST THIS GENTLEMAN ALL THE TIME WHEN THEY'RE DOING DEVELOPMENTS I DON'T LIKE.
THIS ONE IS I THINK IS A GOOD THING.
RIGHT. SO FIRST OFF, WHY CHANGE THE RULES AND REGULATIONS FOR ONE FOR ONE COMPANY? THEY DID WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO.
THEY HELD THEIR PUBLIC MEETINGS.
THEY GOT THE LIST OF RESIDENTS AFFECTED WITHIN 500FT.
AND THEN PEOPLE WEREN'T CONCERNED OR THEY AREN'T PAYING ATTENTION.
MAKE THE PEOPLE BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS.
AND NUMBER THREE RESTAURANTS I KNOW THEY'RE GREAT TO VISIT, BUT THEY'RE FAILING LEFT AND RIGHT.
RIGHT NOW THE ECONOMY DOESN'T SUPPORT IT.
SO YOU WANT MORE PEOPLE PAID FOR A RESTAURANT AT MINIMUM WAGE? THAT'S GREAT.
BUT WHAT DOES THAT REALLY FOR EMPLOYMENT? I PERSONALLY AM IN FAVOR OF THIS BUSINESS COMING IN, AND I KNOW THAT PISSES OFF A LOT OF PEOPLE IN MY COMMUNITY, BUT I THINK IT'S A GOOD THING.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER SPEAKERS COUNCIL? SIR. YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO REBUT.
THANK YOU. AND I THINK I CAN COUNT ON ONE HAND HOW MANY TIMES MR. BATTEN HAS SUPPORTED ONE OF MY PROJECTS.
OH, SORRY. CAN YOU REPEAT THAT? YEAH. NO PROBLEM. THANK YOU.
I THINK I CAN COUNT ON ONE HAND HOW MANY TIMES MR. BATTEN HAS SUPPORTED ONE OF MY PROJECTS, SO THANK YOU.
I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT THE DAYCARE BEFORE THAT.
THE THEY DID TRY TO DO THAT BUSINESS AND IT WAS, YOU KNOW, TOLD BY STAFF.
IT'S TOO MUCH. IT'S TOO TRAFFIC.
RESTAURANTS ARE THE SAME THING.
CAN I CAN I JUST, SIR, IS THERE ANY WAY YOU COULD SHOW THE ILLUSTRATION OF THE PROJECT? BECAUSE MR. STICE.
I MEAN, YOU COULD CARRY ON UNTIL.
GO AHEAD. SO THE AUDIENCE CAN SEE WHAT I WAS LOOKING TO MR. SPACE. DID YOU WANT TO SEE IT? OH, HE DOESN'T HAVE THE ABILITY.
CAN YOU SEND IT TO HIM, SIR? CAN YOU DISPLAY THAT FOR THE AUDIENCE? SHE JUST SENT YOU THE LINK.
IT'S JUST A LINK TO THE AGENDA PACKET PAGE.
YEAH. HOW MANY UNITS? HOW MANY TOTAL UNITS? IS A PROJECT? THIS WOULD BE 830 UNITS.
TOTALLY INTERIOR TO THE BUILDING INSIDE.
AND THEY HAVE BIG DOORS THAT OPEN UP JUST LIKE THE FRONT OF AN OFFICE BUILDING.
AND JUST JUMPING BACK TO THE CP MEETINGS.
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IF THERE'S ONE UPSET RESIDENT, THEY'LL HAPPY TO NOTIFY EVERYBODY ELSE AROUND.WE FELT LIKE THIS USE IN THIS LOCATION, AND THE REASON WE DIDN'T GET ANY PUSHBACK WAS BECAUSE IT WAS SOMETHING THAT THE RESIDENTS WERE NOT OPPOSED TO. YEAH, THERE WE GO. OKAY.
ALL RIGHT. SO YEAH. SO THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE.
YEAH. SO YEAH, I WANTED THE AUDIENCE TO SEE THAT BECAUSE IN PARTICULAR, MR. STICE MENTIONED THE APPEARANCE OF IT.
IT'S NOT YOUR TYPICAL STORAGE LOCATION.
SO PEOPLE WOULD PARK AND THEN GO INSIDE AND THEIR.
WHAT ARE THEY, TEN BY TEN? FIVE BY TEN? YES, SIR. SO THE PEOPLE, THE FIVE BY FIVE, YOU SEE THERE ON THE RIGHT, THAT'S THE THAT'S THE OFFICE.
YES. SO THAT'S WHERE OUR EMPLOYEES WOULD BE.
OKAY. THERE'S TWO LOADING AREAS ON THE FRONT.
YOU SEE THE CANOPIES? KIND OF THERE'S.
VANNA WHITE WILL PRESENT HERE.
RIGHT HERE. YEAH. WHAT IS THAT? OKAY, THAT'S THE DOORWAY.
THAT'S THE SAME, SAME EXACT DOOR SYSTEM WE USE.
SO YOU'LL WALK UP, GLASS DOORS OPEN.
YOU HAVE A LOADING LOBBY THERE.
AND YOU CAN GO TO THE ELEVATOR AND GO TO A DIFFERENT FLOOR OR GO TO YOUR UNIT ON THAT FLOOR.
YOU KNOW, WE PROVIDE CARTS THAT ARE BRANDED, YOU KNOW, FOR US AND, AND ALL THOSE SORTS OF THINGS WHEN FOLKS AND THIS IS THREE ACRES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THAT'S THAT'S THE THAT'S THE ISSUE THAT THE OWNERS HAVE BEEN HAVING.
JAKE. IT'S A SMALL PIECE OF PROPERTY.
AND THEN IT JUST GOES INTO THE RESIDENTIAL CORRIDOR.
HAS THE WETLANDS BEHIND IT MID-BLOCK.
AND IT'S A STRANGE LOCATION WHERE THE ROAD NARROWS DOWN TO TWO LANES.
ONCE YOU GET PAST PINEAPPLE COVE AND ODYSSEY.
SO, YEAH, IT'S JUST NOT A STRONG COMMERCIAL LOCATION.
HOW? AND I GUESS THIS THIS THIS IS FOR YOU, SIR.
HOW DO YOU PUT STUFF IN THERE? YOU HAVE BIG WALKWAYS TO YES TO.
OKAY. YEAH. SO THERE'S PRETTY LARGE FIVE FOOT WIDE CORRIDORS.
YOU KNOW, YOU KIND OF WANT IT TO FEEL GOOD WHEN PEOPLE ARE IN THERE.
WHITE ROLL UP DOORS, AND IT'S REALLY, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE PRODUCT IS TO BE CLEAN AND NICE.
YOU KNOW, YOU WANT PEOPLE TO FEEL REALLY COMFORTABLE.
BUT YOU'D WALK IN ONE OF THESE DOORS, YOU'D HIT THE LOADING LOBBY.
AND IT'S IT'S KIND OF A CORRIDOR.
RIGHT CORRIDOR, LEFT CORRIDOR STRAIGHT.
OR YOU CAN HOP ON AN ELEVATOR AND GO TO THE SECOND OR THIRD FLOOR.
YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE A STORE.
DO THAT. YEAH. SO THE IDEA IS THAT THIS LOOKS LIKE IT COULD BE AN OFFICE BUILDING, RIGHT? YES. THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF A SUBURBAN OFFICE BUILDING, NOT SOMETHING REAL URBAN.
WE USE OFFICE, WE USE HARDY, WE USE BRICK AND TRY AND CREATE DIFFERENT OFFSETS.
IS IT 24 OVER SEVEN? IT'S NOT 24 OVER SEVEN.
NO, BUT IT IS 100% CONTROLLED ACCESS.
SO NOT JUST ANYONE GO IN THE BUILDING, YOU HAVE TO BE A TENANT.
YEAH. BECAUSE EVERYTHING'S INDOORS.
YEAH. AND YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO ACCESS THE BUILDING.
I THINK WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW BETWEEN 11 AND 6 A.M..
OKAY. WE JUST FIGURE IF YOU NEED TO, YOU DON'T NEED TO GO TO YOUR UNIT AT TWO IN THE MORNING.
BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO ACCESS THE BUILDING.
YOUR CODE JUST WON'T WORK IN THOSE THOSE HOURS.
AND THEN OUR EMPLOYEES ARE THERE, YOU KNOW, DURING NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS.
YEAH. OUR OFFICE HAS DONE DOZENS AND DOZENS OF STORAGE UNITS.
I'VE NEVER WORKED WITH A CLIENT.
SORRY. SO OUR OFFICE HAS DONE DOZENS AND DOZENS OF SELF STORAGE PROJECTS.
AND THEY REALLY DID A SITE SPECIFIC ARCHITECTURE FOR THIS THAT FITS IN.
AND I JUST THINK THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB AND HAVE DONE THEIR HOMEWORK.
AND I JUST DON'T THINK THERE'S ANOTHER USE THAT WOULD BE BETTER FOR THIS SITE.
THANK YOU. DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR PRESENTATION? OH, YES.
YOUR REBUTTAL. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
NO OTHER SPEAKERS, RIGHT, DEPUTY MAYOR.
I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS POINT AND ASK FOR A MOTION.
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SO MOVED.I'LL SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
OH, MR. BATTEN, YOU FLIPPED ME.
YOU FLIPPED ME ON THIS ONE, SIR.
YOU FLIPPED ME ON THIS ONE BECAUSE I, YOU KNOW, I'M GUNG HO, BUT IT MAKES SENSE.
AND EVEN AS I DRIVE AROUND, RESTAURANTS ARE CLOSING WAGONWHEEL STATION 45, WHICH I TALKED ABOUT DURING THE CRA MEETING WHEN THE GENTLEMAN WAS SAYING HE WANTED TO BUILD A RESTAURANT UNDER HIS HOUSE OR SOMETHING.
YOU REMEMBER WENDY'S? YOU KNOW, BABCOCK, I MEAN, ALL ALL OVER, EVEN IN WEST MELBOURNE, WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE HIGHEST OF TRAFFIC.
I'M SEEING EMPTY RESTAURANTS, TGIF, I'M TGIF JUST CLOSED.
SO I'M SEEING EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SEEING TOO, SIR.
AND YEAH, I THINK UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S WHERE THAT'S WHERE WE ARE WITH THE ECONOMY.
SO I GET IT, I GET IT, AND, YOU KNOW YOUR FATHER'S STILL WITH YOU, MA'AM? HE'S STILL WITH YOU. SO THAT JUST.
HE IS. I KNOW MY GRANDFATHER'S STILL WITH ME, SO TALKING ABOUT THEM IS WHAT KEEPS THEM ALIVE.
YOU KNOW, KEEPING THAT MEMORY KEEPS THEM ALIVE.
BUT I'M IN SUPPORT, MAYOR OF THIS PROJECT.
ESPECIALLY WITH THE LOCATION WITH THE KOGAN RIGHT THERE.
I KNOW THEY'RE EXPANDING OVER THERE WITH THE DMV AND ALL THAT.
SO FOR THIS CASE, I'M OKAY WITH SUPPORTING, SIR.
YEAH. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON I AGREE.
MASTER CHIEF BATTEN REALLY, REALLY SPOKE TO MY HEART.
YEAH. FIRST OF ALL, I'M A PROPERTY RIGHTS INDIVIDUAL, BUT I'M ALL ABOUT CREATING JOBS.
AND I'VE I'VE PREACHED THAT ON THE DAIS, AS YOU KNOW.
BUT WE GOT TO ME WAS THE FACT THAT FOR 20 YEARS, SOMEONE'S OWNED THREE, THREE ACRES TRYING TO SELL IT, AND THEY'VE HAD TWO OPPORTUNITIES IN 20 YEARS.
AND THEN THE THE OTHER PART WAS THE ILLUSTRATION OF IT.
IT LOOKED LIKE AN OFFICE BUILDING.
SO I, I HAVE VOTED JAKE, MR. WISE, YOU KNOW, I HAVE LED THE CHARGE TO VOTE AGAINST STORAGE FACILITIES.
I THINK THIS IS THE WRONG, WRONG PROJECT TO TO DO THAT.
WHAT I'VE LEARNED TODAY IS THAT YOU CANNOT HAVE A COOKIE CUTTER APPROACH WHEN YOU SIT ON THIS DAIS.
AND I THINK THAT THAT REALLY SPEAKS VOLUMES TO ME BECAUSE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH OUR RESTAURANT INDUSTRY, I WOULD HAVE PREFERRED TO HAVE A RED LOBSTER OR SOMETHING THERE, BUT FOR IT TO FAIL.
HEY, THEY'RE CLOSING STORES, RIGHT? SO I'LL BE I'LL BE VOTING IN FAVOR OF THIS DEPUTY MAYOR.
MY CONCERN IS, I MEAN, AND I GET IT.
I'D LOVE AS MUCH AS I'D LOVE TO SEE ANOTHER USE IN THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION.
AND I DO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, MARKET TREND, MARKET DRIVEN PRODUCTS AS WELL.
I, LIKE I SAID, I LIVE ACROSS THE STREET NOT HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO AT LEAST SEEN THAT PROJECT.
I THINK WE WE ON THIS DAIS SERVE YOU GUYS.
I THINK HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A SAY SO.
YAY OR NAY. BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, I WILL.
I'M ACCOUNTABLE TO THE RESIDENTS.
I'M ACCOUNTABLE TO THE MANDATES.
I WILL HAVE TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.
THEY SO SO MY POSITION, AS MUCH AS I SEE THE NEED, I UNDERSTAND BASED ON THE SPEAKERS, AND MY POSITION WILL CHANGE ON THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT.
I THINK THE DEVELOPER, THE APPLICANT, WE GOT TO FIND A WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CONCERNING TO ME.
I LIVE LESS THAN 500FT FROM THE PROJECT, NOT BEING NOTIFIED.
AND TO CORRECT YOU, MR. BATTEN, IT'S NOT ALWAYS THE CASE WHERE PEOPLE ARE NOT RESPONDING.
IN MY CASE PARTICULARLY, THIS WOULD CAUGHT MY ATTENTION.
BUT I CAN GUARANTEE YOU I WAS NOT NOTIFIED.
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IN NO WAY, SHAPE OR FORM THAT THAT CONCERNS ME.I THINK THE APPLICANT GOT TO DO EVERYTHING THEY CAN PUT THEIR BEST FOOT FORWARD WHEN IT COMES TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE RESIDENT AND SEND PROPER NOTICE.
ASSURE THAT PEOPLE DO WHATEVER CHANNEL THEY USE.
BECAUSE OF THAT, I STILL I WON'T I WON'T SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.
OKAY. SO RIGHT NOW I'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND YOU SECOND IT.
WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? I SUPPORT THE PROJECT.
I LISTENED TO BOTH SIDES, AND I THINK IT'S A NEEDED PROJECT.
IT'S SO. THAT'S MY THOUGHTS ON IT.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT, SO, DEPUTY MAYOR, I HEAR YOUR POINT.
AND I REALLY WANT TO COME TO A RESOLUTION.
I, I ALSO BELIEVE THAT THE ILLUSTRATION OF WHAT IS HAPPENING AND THEN TO REQUIRE A BUSINESS OWNER TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT WE ASK ANYBODY ELSE? IT MAY NOT.
SO ALTHOUGH I, I VALIDATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, DEPUTY MAYOR, I TRULY DO.
I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT IT'S A THIN LINE HERE, AND LISTEN, I DON'T WANT I WANT TO CREATE JOBS, BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, IT SEEMS THAT IT'S A PERFECT FIT FOR THE AREA.
IT LOOKS LIKE AN OFFICE BUILDING.
AND A PROPERTY RIGHTS ISSUE WITH THE OWNER.
THE FIRST ONE WAS SHOT DOWN AS WELL.
I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CALL THE QUESTION.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.
WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER THREE OR.
MAYOR, YOU STILL HAVE TO VOTE ON NUMBER THREE.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THAT THE ITEM BE CONSIDERED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE FINAL READING OF THE REZONING ORDINANCE, WHICH IS SCHEDULED FOR THE JULY 11TH, 2024 REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. OKAY.
MOTION TO MOVE. RESOLUTION 2024 DASH 19 TO THE JULY 11TH, 2024 MEETING.
SECOND. I GOT A I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES FOUR ZERO.
I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.
ITEM FOUR. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS KEN LUDWIG, WITH BSC CONSULTANTS REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.
WE'RE ACTUALLY HERE FOR AGENDA ITEMS NUMBER FOUR AND FIVE.
THAT IS FOR THE PRELIMINARY PLAT AND THE FINAL PLAT.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING PRELIMINARY AND FINAL PLAT APPROVAL TO ALLOW A SUBDIVISION TO SUBDIVIDE THEIR PROPERTY INTO TWO LOTS.
CALLED THE PLAT NAME IS CALLED STORE NOW.
THE PROPERTY IS ZONED COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL AND THE CONDITIONAL USE WAS WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL LAST YEAR AND A SITE PLAN WAS APPROVED.
A STORAGE FACILITY IS BEING BUILT ON LOT ONE ON WHAT WOULD BE LOT ONE, AND THAT IS 6.7 ACRES, INCLUDING ALSO THE STORMWATER POND, WHICH WILL SERVE BOTH LOT ONE AND LOT TWO.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THEY BASICALLY THE PURPOSE OF SUBDIVIDING THE PROPERTY IS TO CREATE LOT TWO FOR, FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. THE STORAGE FACILITY IS INDOOR STORAGE.
IT'S ACTUALLY VERY SIMILAR TO THE THE APPLICATION WE JUST WE JUST HAD IN FRONT OF US.
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SO THAT, HOWEVER, THE STORAGE FACILITY IS NOT WHAT ISN'T REALLY THE APPLICATION TONIGHT, BUT RATHER THE, THE SUBDIVISION TO CREATE THE ADDITIONAL LOT FOR, FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO ZONING CONDITIONS.
COMMERCIAL. THE JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS TO NOTE ABOUT THE THE WAY THE THE PROPERTY WILL WORK IS THERE'S A DRIVEWAY ON MALABAR ROAD.
IT WILL SERVE BOTH THE STORAGE FACILITY AND THE THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT PARCEL.
SO IT WILL BE A SHARED DRIVEWAY.
AS I MENTIONED, THE STORMWATER POND THAT IS BEING BUILT ON LOT ONE WILL SERVE BOTH THE BOTH PARCELS.
ADDITIONALLY, THERE IS A TRACT TRACT A, WHICH IS ABOUT 0.58 ACRES, WHICH IS DEDICATED FOR FUTURE WIDENING OF MALABAR ROAD.
SO THAT IS A PUBLIC BENEFIT THERE AS WELL.
I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
ALSO, THE APPLICANT, MR. PAUL NEVINS, IS HERE.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS DIRECTLY FOR THE APPLICANT.
ANY QUESTIONS? COUNSEL? WHEN WE SAY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT? OR. BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S NOT JUST ANOTHER STORAGE UNIT.
THAT ACTUALLY THAT CAME UP IN PNC.
ALL RIGHT. HOW ABOUT NO. AND THERE WAS CONCERN THAT IT MIGHT BE.
SO THE STORAGE FACILITY THAT IS BEING BUILT NOW IS ALL INDOOR STORAGE.
THERE WAS CONCERN ABOUT BEING, YOU KNOW, BOAT OR RV STORAGE.
HOW ABOUT PROBABLY RETAIL? OKAY. RETAIL.
YEAH. WHAT KIND OF RETAIL? NOT SURE. OKAY.
YEAH. SO FOR THE RECORD, IT'LL BE RETAIL.
OKAY. WELL, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE COUNCIL WE AND WE UNITED ON THIS FRONT IN REGARDS TO WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR A STORAGE NEXT TO A STORAGE OR A CAR WASH OVER THERE, SO.
UNDERSTOOD. YES, SIR. AND WHAT IS THE I GUESS THIS QUESTION IS BETTER FOR STAFF.
DOES THAT EXPIRE ANYTIME? I DON'T KNOW IF LISA KNOWS THE ANSWER TO THAT, BUT I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
BUT I CAN LOOK IT UP WHILE THE COUNCIL IS DISCUSSING.
SO THE CONDITIONAL USE REQUIRED CONSTRUCTION TO START WITHIN A CERTAIN TIME FRAME.
AND CONSTRUCTION? CONSTRUCTION HAS ALREADY STARTED ALREADY? YEAH. ALL RIGHT. COPY THAT.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN? DEPUTY MAYOR.
COUNCILMAN FOSTER, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ITEM NUMBER FOUR? NO, NOT AT THIS TIME.
MR. BILL BATTEN, MASTER CHIEF.
OKAY. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.
I LOOKED I WATCHED THE PLANNING AND ZONING ON THIS DEVELOPMENT.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
I GREATLY APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THEY'VE EXPANDED THEIR STORM WATER TO ACCOMMODATE BOTH BUILDS.
SO WE DIDN'T RUN INTO A CONFLICT THERE.
BUT THE REASON WHY I PULLED THIS CARD TO TALK ON IT WAS ONLY BECAUSE OF THE WAY IT APPEARS WHEN SOMEBODY IS LOOKING AT THE AGENDA AND YOU GET THERE AND YOU SAY, WELL, HERE'S A REQUEST FOR A PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION, PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION PLAN, THAT'S PRELIMINARY, AND YOU'RE GOING TO VOTE ON IT.
AND THEN THE VERY NEXT ITEM IS FINAL SUBDIVISION PLAN.
SO IF THERE WAS ANY KIND OF QUESTIONS OR COMPLAINTS ABOUT SOMETHING, WE HAVE THEM BACK TO BACK.
IT'S WHY HAVE BACK TO BACK VOTES WHEN THE WHOLE PURPOSE IS TO GET GET INPUT, GET AND THEN MAKE A DECISION ON IT AND HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE CORRECTIONS. BUT WHEN YOU HAVE BOTH THE PRIMARY, THE PRELIMINARY AND THE FINAL SUBDIVISION PLAN BACK TO BACK.
WHY'D YOU SAY BRING ONE AND WE'LL SEND YOU ON YOUR MERRY WAY? YEAH. I'M JUST. WHY? I'M JUST QUESTIONING THE THE PROCEDURE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN.
JOAN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ANSWER SOME OF THE HISTORY ON WHY WE CHANGED THAT TO PRELIMINARY AND FINAL BEING TOGETHER? IT'S ACTUALLY NOT A PERMANENT CHANGE.
WE AFFORD APPLICANTS TO SUBMIT THEM CONCURRENTLY IF THEY SHOULD CHOOSE.
IN THIS INSTANCE, IT'S SORT OF LIKE A LOT SPLIT.
IT'S REALLY ONLY CREATING TWO OR I THINK THERE'S MAYBE THREE BECAUSE THERE'S ANOTHER TRACT IN THERE.
THAT'S SOMETHING. UNLESS THE TWO HAVE BEEN GOING CONCURRENTLY AND THEY'RE IDENTICAL OR SUBSTANTIALLY IN CONFORMANCE WITH ONE ANOTHER. I DON'T KNOW THAT STAFF WOULD SUPPORT BRINGING THEM BOTH FORWARD AT THE SAME COUNCIL MEETING, BUT IN THIS INSTANCE.
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SO IT'S NOT A REGULAR OCCURRENCE THAT WE WOULD BRING THEM FORWARD TOGETHER.THANK YOU. MA'AM. DEPUTY MAYOR, NEXT SPEAKER.
NO DISCOUNT CODE FOR THIS ITEM.
OKAY, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION.
GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR OF FELIX COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
DEPUTY MAYOR COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
NO COMMENTS. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I, I, I.
SAME. I WOULD MAKE THE SAME PRESENTATION THAT I JUST DID.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU. PUBLIC COMMENT.
I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION.
SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.
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ITEM NUMBER ONE, MADAM SMITH, RESOLUTION 24 DASH 20 2024.THAT'S 20 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING RESOLUTION 2023 DASH 19, SECTION THREE, BY EXTENDING THE COMMENCEMENT PERIOD OF THE CONDITIONAL USE GRANTED FOR RETAIL, AUTOMOTIVE, GAS, FUEL SALES AND CC COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT ZONING.
MADAM SHERMAN YES, THANK YOU MAYOR.
THE ORIGINAL APPROVAL WAS FOR A ONE YEAR PERIOD.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING AN ADDITIONAL ONE YEAR PERIOD.
THEY'RE WELL UNDERWAY IN THE THE SITE REVIEW.
AND SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
THE LAST TIME WE HAD SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THIS COUNCIL AGREED TO A SIX MONTH EXTENSION.
AND I THINK THAT WAS A GREAT COMPROMISE AS OPPOSED TO GRANTING THE FULL YEAR.
SO. OKAY. COME ON, STEP FORWARD.
GOOD EVENING. CARLO BAISDEN WITH PURSUIT DEVELOPMENT AND ASCOT PALM BAY HOLDINGS.
THANK YOU. OR BRING IT CLOSE TO YOU.
ONE OF THE CONDITIONS, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE HAVEN'T BEEN IS WE HAVE BEEN.
THE CIRCLE K DEVELOPMENT IS WITHIN THE LARGER HERITAGE CORNERS DEVELOPMENT.
AND WE'VE BEEN COORDINATING WITH THE MASTER DEVELOPER ON A CROSS ACCESS AND AN EASEMENT THAT IS, THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT TO THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT, AND THAT HAS NOT BEEN FINISHED UP UNTIL RECENTLY.
AND OUR ATTORNEY IS REVIEWING IT, AND WE WILL BE SUBMITTING IT WITH OUR PAPERWORK FOR THE PERMITS.
YEAH. THANK YOU. IT WOULD HELP.
A YEAR WOULD BE BETTER IF WE CAN GET IT.
SEE, MY MY MY THOUGHT IS IT'S NEEDED THERE YESTERDAY.
RIGHT. IT'S NEEDED THERE YESTERDAY.
AND AND TO HAVE THAT CORRIDOR, YOU KNOW FUNCTIONAL IT'S CRITICAL THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING, I WANT TO LIGHT A FIRE UNDERNEATH YOUR, YOUR FEET.
RIGHT. SO I WOULD, I WOULD PREFER THE SIX MONTHS.
I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND WHERE I'M GOING WITH THAT.
AGAIN. THE CONDITIONS HAVE BEEN SUCH THAT WE'RE OUTSIDE OF OUR CONTROL.
WE WERE NOT ABLE TO PUSH THE THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY TO GIVE US THIS EASEMENT QUICKER.
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SO THAT HAS BEEN TAKEN TIME JUST BECAUSE IT'S A BIGGER DEVELOPMENT AND THE RESTRICTIONS AND COVENANTS HAVE TO BE DRAFTED LEGALLY AND BE APPROVED.NOW THAT THAT'S DONE, THOUGH, I THINK YOU COULD ACTION THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO US NOT LONG AGO, I WOULD SAY WITHIN ABOUT MAYBE 2 TO 3 WEEKS AGO, OUR ATTORNEY HAS BEEN REVIEWING IT, AND WE ARE GOING TO BE SUBMITTING THAT TO THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT AND THEN CONTINUING THE PERMITTING PROCESS.
OKAY, I LIKE I LIKE SIX MONTHS.
SO DON'T FEEL WE'RE SINGLING YOU OUT.
SO I UNDERSTAND THE CHALLENGES.
AN EXTENSION WOULD BE AN EXTENSION.
ANY QUESTIONS? DEPUTY MAYOR COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
COUNCILMAN. FOSTER. ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? NO. NO QUESTIONS.
SO ANY ARE YOU CONCLUDE DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR PRESENTATION? IT DOES. IF WE MAY HAVE A COMPROMISE, NINE MONTHS WOULD BE BETTER THAN SIX.
BUT I WILL LEAVE THAT UP TO YOU.
AND AGAIN, WE WILL DO EVERYTHING IN OUR POWER TO MOVE THE PROJECT FORWARD.
WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING AS A DEVELOPER TO GET TO THAT FINISH LINE.
EVERYTHING HAS BEEN DONE ON OUR PART.
I UNDERSTAND, I UNDERSTAND, SIR, I APPRECIATE THANK YOU.
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK? PLEASE STEP FORWARD. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.
ALL RIGHT. MY NAME IS ALAN MILES.
I LIVE IN NORTHEAST PALM BAY OFF EMERSON ROAD.
I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT FOR 40 YEARS.
THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF HERE THAT I DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL GET THROUGH.
BUT FIRST OF ALL, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE EMERSON ROAD AND HERITAGE PARKWAY, THERE'S NO TRAFFIC LIGHT THERE, AND THERE WON'T BE ONE UNTIL THE WAWA IS BUILT BECAUSE THERE'S NO POWER.
SO WE'RE DEALING WITH AN EXPEDITED PROCESS TO GET THEM TO BUILD SOMETHING.
THAT'S TRYING TO USE EMERSON AND HERITAGE PARKWAY.
ALSO, I WANT TO KNOW IF THEY HAVE PLANS TO PUT IN ANY ANY LETTERS AT THAT AREA SINCE THEY'RE GOING TO BE DRAWING POWER THERE IF THERE'S ANY STIPULATIONS IN PLANNING AND ZONING.
AND THEN LASTLY, I HAVE A COMPANY THAT I SPOKE TO THE CITY MANAGER ABOUT THAT DOES TEMPORARY TRAFFIC SIGNALS, AND THEY'RE WILLING TO PUT UP A TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT HERITAGE PARKWAY SO WE CAN PROVIDE SAFETY FOR THE STUDENTS WHEN THEY COME IN AND OUT OF THAT.
SO THAT PROCESS HAS BEEN PUT ON HOLD.
AND SINCE NOW IT'S ON HOLD, THERE'S NO WAY THAT WILL HAPPEN BEFORE THE SCHOOL YEAR STARTS.
I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT LOOKED AT.
I'D ALSO LIKE TO HAVE THE POSSIBILITY OF HAVING A THREE WAY STOP AS A TEMPORARY MEANS.
AND YOU WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THAT GENTLEMAN WITH THE STORAGE FACILITY.
IT WOULD CREATE A MAJOR HAZARD.
IF YOU HAVE RETAIL THERE AND YOU HAVE 200 KIDS GETTING OUT OF SCHOOL AT THE SAME TIME, YOU HAVE CROSS TRAFFIC, YOU HAVE THROUGH TRAFFIC, YOU HAVE NO TRAFFIC, YOU HAVE COMMERCIAL VEHICLES. IT'S JUST A ZOO DOWN THERE.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW ANYBODY COULD NOT BE CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAFETY AND THE WELFARE OF OUR CHILDREN, WHICH ARE NOT EXPERIENCED DRIVERS IN AN AREA WHERE THERE'S ALREADY BEEN HOW MANY DOZENS OF ACCIDENTS DOWN THERE.
THREE CONCERNS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? OKAY. SO YOU CAN COMMENT AND REBUT, ESPECIALLY ABOUT THE RAPID CHARGERS THAT HE WAS REFERRING TO.
THANK YOU, SIR, IF I MAY CORRECT CIRCLE ADDRESS ME.
EXCUSE ME. CIRCLE K GAS STATION INSTEAD OF THE WAWA THAT THE GENTLEMAN MENTIONED.
WE ARE DOING THIS PROJECT IN PARTNERSHIP WITH CIRCLE K.
SO UNFORTUNATELY, AT THIS TIME I'M NOT ABLE TO ANSWER.
WELL I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? THANK YOU. OKAY, I NEED A MOTION.
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MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 2024 DASH 20 WITH AMENDING THE ONE YEAR EXTENSION TO NINE MONTHS.I'LL SECOND THAT. ANY DISCUSSION? GENTLEMEN? I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY MAYOR MEDINA.
IDEALLY, YOU COULD GET IT DONE WITHIN SIX.
ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? PASSES FOUR ZERO.
WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER TWO, MADAM SMITH, ORDINANCE 20 2427, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE FIVE, LEGISLATIVE CHAPTER 53 STATE OF EMERGENCY DECLARATION.
SUBCHAPTER. NATURAL, MANMADE OR TECHNOLOGICAL EMERGENCY OR DISASTER.
HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
YES. THANK YOU MAYOR. THIS IS A AN UPDATE TO THE ORDINANCE TO CHANGE THE LANGUAGE SO THAT THE WAY WE START TO DECLARE A LOCAL STATE OF EMERGENCY IS THE SAME WAY WE END THE LOCAL STATE OF EMERGENCY.
SO WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IS CHANGE IT SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY END EMERGENCY DECLARATION SOONER IF NEEDED, BY SIMPLY DOING THE SAME LEGISLATIVE ORDER PROCESS WITH THE THE MAYOR AND THE CITY MANAGER.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S HELPFUL FOR FEMA PURPOSES AS WELL.
SO AS YOU GUYS CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, ITEM B THAT'S CHANGED.
ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? STEP FORWARD, MASTER CHIEF.
ANYONE ELSE SECOND? BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.
AND THE WAY I'M ADDRESSING THIS IS BECAUSE IT WAS UNDER ORDINANCES.
THAT'S WHY I'M ADDRESSING IT NOW, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS OTHER ORDINANCES.
I JUST HAD THE CITY'S INSPECTORS WITH ME TODAY.
AND WE HAVE TREES AND RADIUS 15FT IN DIAMETER.
YET THEIR PLANS SAY NO SIGNIFICANT TREES.
WHICH LEADS ME TO THE FINAL THING ON THIS TOPIC.
ON THIS TOPIC, I DON'T AGREE, I AGREE, I UNDERSTAND, I UNDERSTAND SUBJECT TO WHAT WE'RE TALKING THIS TOPIC, THAT'S ITEM NUMBER THREE, THIS TOPIC I HAD TO FIND A WAY TO ON ITEM WE'RE ON ITEM TWO, SIR.
ITEM NUMBER TWO WHICH IS AMENDING EMERGENCY REDRESS.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT I JUST HAD TO FIND A WAY TO ADDRESS MY COUNCIL.
AND I GOT THAT IN THERE AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS DOING.
YOU FIND A WAY TO MANIPULATE YOUR SYSTEMS? I HAD TO FIND A WAY TO MANIPULATE THE SAME SYSTEM AS THE CHIEF.
SO I'M GOING TO. I'LL FINISH WITH YOU, MAYOR.
SO ON ITEM NUMBER TWO, THIS WAS A VERY GOOD CHOICE ON YOUR TO AMEND THIS ORDINANCE TO WHERE YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING IN ORDER TO MAKE A CITY DECISION.
I JUST HAD TO FIND A MECHANISM TO ADDRESS MY GOVERNMENT.
THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO I KNOW YOU CAME IN A LITTLE LATE, MR. CHIEF, BUT WE WE HAD THE CLERK READ SECTION 7.85 WORKSHOPS AND SPECIAL MEETINGS.
PUBLIC COMMENTS AT WORKSHOPS SHALL BE ENTERTAINED AS FOLLOWS.
PUBLIC COMMENT SHALL ADDRESS ONLY THOSE ITEMS SPECIFICALLY LISTED ON THE AGENDA.
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THIS IS A SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING.ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS? THIS ITEM. SEEING NONE, I NEED A MOTION.
GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? PASSES FOUR ZERO.
WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER THREE, MISS SHERMAN.
VEHICLES STILL HAD SOME SOME LIFE LEFT IN THEM.
AND SO WE DIDN'T WANT TO JUST SELL THEM ON SURPLUS BUT REALLOCATE THEM TO OTHER USES IN THE CITY.
THANK YOU. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? MASTER CHIEF, STEP FORWARD.
BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.
WELL, 1415 I DON'T REMEMBER HOW MANY IT WAS ELECTRIC VEHICLES.
THAT'S WHAT THE REQUEST WAS ORIGINALLY FOR.
WHEN I WAS READING THIS, THE PACKET THAT THEY WANTED 14 ELECTRIC VEHICLES.
WELL, NOW THEY'RE HAVING A HARD TIME GETTING ELECTRIC VEHICLES.
AND I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO GO INTO WHAT A PROBLEM THE ELECTRIC VEHICLES ARE.
IF I'M UNDER IF I'M READING THIS PACKET CORRECTLY.
WHY ARE WE EVEN BUYING THEM? WHY ARE WE BUYING NEW VEHICLES, ESPECIALLY THE EXPENSE OF HIGH MAINTENANCE ELECTRIC VEHICLES OVER A REGULAR COMBUSTION ENGINE? SO ESPECIALLY IF THEY WERE IN GOOD ENOUGH SHAPE THAT OTHER DEPARTMENTS WANTED THEM.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M QUESTIONING IT.
WE COULD HAVE USED THAT SAME MONEY THAT WE DEDICATED FOR BUYING ELECTRIC VEHICLES THAT AREN'T EVEN GOING TO BE AVAILABLE, AND THEY'RE A PAIN IN THE REAR, AND WE DON'T EVEN HAVE CHARGING STATIONS OR NOW ASKING PEOPLE TO PUT IN CHARGING STATIONS.
SO THAT MEANS SAME PROBLEM WITH THESE IN OUR MAINTENANCE FACILITIES, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE CHARGING STATIONS BECAUSE THEY TAKE 14 HOURS TO CHARGE ON REGULAR TRICKLE CHARGERS. DOES THAT MEAN YOU WORK ALL DAY AND THEN SOMEBODY'S GOT TO BE CHARGING CHANGING THE VEHICLES AROUND ALL NIGHT? I DON'T KNOW, I'M NOT GOING THERE.
BUT THE FACT IS STAY WITH COMBUSTION ENGINES.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN.
YES. THE ORIGINAL PLAN WAS TO BUY ELECTRIC VEHICLES DUE TO PRODUCTION ISSUES.
COULDN'T GET THEM IN ANY KIND OF REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME FRAME.
WE SHIFTED TO HYBRID VEHICLES FOR THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
BECAUSE THE VEHICLES STILL HAD LIFE.
THE RANGERS AND THE FRONTIER TRUCKS.
WE HAVE A LOT OF OLDER FLEET, AS YOU ALL KNOW, IN THE REST OF THE GENERAL FUND DEPARTMENTS, SOME THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, WELL OVER 20 YEARS OLD AND, YOU KNOW, EXCESSIVE MILES. SO WE'RE BASICALLY REPLACING VEHICLES THAT, YOU KNOW, HAD FAILED OR WERE FAILING.
AND WE'RE DOING THAT USING USED VEHICLES.
AND IT'S IT'S BETTER FOR GENERAL FUND TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
I NEED A MOTION OR ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK.
SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.
WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR, MADAM SHERMAN.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK ABOUT THE FINANCIAL REPORT.
SO MOVED. GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR OF FELIX.
NO. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.
WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE.
THANK YOU. MAYOR. THIS IS SIMILAR TO THE PRIOR ITEM.
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SO THROUGH MARCH 31ST, 2024.ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE.
GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.
YES, SIR. THIS INVOLVES A SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND COMMUNITY ASPHALT.
THE CITY HAD DONE A SOLICITATION AND HAD AWARDED IT A COMMUNITY ASPHALT TO BUILD THE SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY, TO CONNECT TO WHAT WOULD BE THEN THE NEW I-95 INTERCHANGE.
THE CONTRACT WAS A COST PLUS FEE ARRANGEMENT, AND IT WAS A DESIGN BUILD.
AND THEN THERE WAS A BUILDING PORTION OF IT AND WHICH HAD A GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE.
THE WERE A NUMBER OF CHANGE ORDERS, SOME OF WHICH WE AGREED TO.
WE PROVIDED DIFFERENT TIMES FOR DELAYS, BUT THE PROJECT DID GO BEYOND THE TIME THAT WE CONTEMPLATED.
SO WE CHALLENGED SOME OF THE COSTS AND WE DID ASSESS LIQUIDATED DAMAGES.
WE WERE ABLE TO REACH A RESOLUTION WHICH DOES STILL INVOLVE SOME OF THE LIQUIDATED DAMAGES BEING ASSESSED INITIALLY. THE COMMUNITY ASPHALT HAD SOUGHT A PAYMENT FOR.
WE DISPUTED THAT AMOUNT DUE TO SOME OF THE CHANGES COSTS THAT WE OBJECTED TO, AS WELL AS 39 DAYS OF LIQUIDATED DAMAGES THAT WE ASSESS COMMUNITY ASPHALT DURING THE TIME A REDUCED THEIR REQUEST DOWN TO $412,576.60.
WE STILL, AS FAR AS THE MONIES THAT COUNCIL BUDGETED FOR THIS PROJECT BETWEEN THE POLES, WE HAVE $508,766.01 THAT'S AVAILABLE.
THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN BUDGETED TO PAY THEM.
THIS AGREEMENT INVOLVES US PAYING THEM $325,000 SO WE DON'T GET EVERYTHING WE WANT.
THEY DON'T GET EVERYTHING THEY WANT, BUT WE DO HAVE MONEY LEFT OVER FROM WHAT WE BUDGETED FROM THIS PROJECT THAT ONCE WE GET THIS MATTER SETTLED, WE CAN THEN USE FOR SOMETHING ELSE. OTHERWISE WE WOULD MORE LIKELY THAN NOT SPEND THE ADDITIONAL SAVINGS PAYING OUR ATTORNEYS.
SO IT ACTUALLY MAKES SENSE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO RESOLVE THIS AND HAVE SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL MONIES TO USE FOR OTHER PROJECTS IN THIS CASE, YOU KNOW, NEITHER PARTY ADMITS ANY WRONGDOING.
ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? MASTER CHIEF, PLEASE STEP FORWARD.
BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.
I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE.
ARE YOU SATISFIED WITH THE OUTCOME OF THIS? I KNOW IT WAS A GIVE AND TAKE.
IT WAS A GIVE AND TAKE AGREEMENT.
BUT OVERALL, IF YOU WERE SATISFIED WITH THAT, BECAUSE I'VE HAD CONFLICT WITH THIS SINCE THE DAY THEY PROPOSED THE SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY COMING OFF THE INTERSTATE, I'VE HAD NOTHING BUT HEADACHES WITH IT AND YOU KNOW THAT.
SO BUT THIS WAS WHAT CAME UP TO THIS POINT.
THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT. BUT IF YOU'RE SATISFIED WITH THAT AGREEMENT, THAT WAS QUESTION NUMBER ONE.
AND QUESTION NUMBER TWO, ARE WE STILL DOING BUSINESS WITH COMMUNITY ASPHALT CORPORATION WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY? SO SO LESSONS WERE LEARNED.
THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? MADAM. I GUESS IT'S TWO PRONGED, RIGHT? SO I'LL. I'LL HAVE YOU SHARE THAT, MA'AM.
GO AHEAD. ACTUALLY, I WAS GOING TO ADD.
DO YOU WANT ME TO HAVE A RESPONSE TO SOMETHING SPECIFIC? YES, MA'AM. WELL, THERE'S TWO QUESTIONS.
OKAY. SO THE OVERALL WE OVERALL SATISFIED I.
OH, YES. SORRY. WE WERE WE WERE NODDING OUR HEADS.
YES. I MEAN, INITIALLY IT TOOK US A WHILE TO GET THERE.
OF COURSE, THE OTHER THING WAS THEY WANTED TO BE PAID THEIR FULL BALANCE WITH NO LIQUIDATED DAMAGES.
WELL, WE DID, YOU KNOW, GIVE UP SOME.
BUT OUR THING WAS THIS WAS LATE.
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THANK YOU, MA'AM. NOW, THE NEXT PART OF THAT QUESTION.ARE WE STILL DOING BUSINESS WITH COMMUNITY ASPHALT? MADAM SHERMAN, WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY RESPONSES TO ANY SOLICITATIONS FROM THEM ON ANY PROJECTS, AND THEY ARE NOT CURRENTLY DOING ANY BUSINESS WITH THE CITY.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? SEEING NONE. I NEED A MOTION.
ONE MORE THING, SIR. IF I MAY.
JUST FOR THE FOR THE RECORD, I'D LIKE TO PUT INTO THE RECORD FOR FINANCE PURPOSES.
THE FUNDS FOR THE REMAINING PROJECT FUNDS ARE IN TWO DIFFERENT FUND ACCOUNTS, AND I'M JUST GOING TO READ THOSE BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T IN THE MEMO AS TO WHERE THE MONEYS WILL BE DRAWN FROM. SO REMAINING FUNDING IN PART WILL COME FROM FUND 306 ACCOUNT NUMBER 5416303 $180,645.51, AND THEN ALSO FROM FUND (308) 541-6303 $151,348.69.
I NEED I NEED A MOTION OR I HAVE A MOTION.
SO MOVED. JOHNSON COUNCIL MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I, I I PASSES FOUR ZERO.
WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, MADAM LEFLER.
YES, MAYOR. STAFF IS REQUESTING COUNCIL CONSENSUS TO SCHEDULE TWO BUDGET WORKSHOPS.
THE FIRST ON TUESDAY, JULY 9TH AT 6 P.M.
AND THAT IS OPTIONAL IF NEEDED.
OKAY. DO YOU NEED A MOTION FOR THAT? JUST CONSENSUS.
OKAY. YOU GOT A THUMBS UP HERE, AND COUNCILMAN.
AND DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX AND COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
ANY COMMENTS? COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE CONSENSUS.
ALL RIGHT. SO NOW WE'RE ON ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT.
WELL, BEFORE WE GO THERE MA'AM I HEARD MR.
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MILLS, I BELIEVE HIS LAST NAME WAS MILES.MR. MILES THAT CORNER, AS YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN REALLY ADVOCATING FOR THAT TO COME ESPECIALLY LAST SCHOOL YEAR.
BUT NOW WE'RE IN A POSITION WHERE WE WEREN'T ABLE TO GET SOMEONE TO BID ON THAT.
ARE WE ANY CLOSER TO PIGGYBACKING ON ANY COUNTY COMPANIES OR THAT WOULD BE WILLING TO TAKE THIS ON OR WELL, YES, THAT'S THE FIRST QUESTION.
YES, SIR. I KNOW STAFF IS ACTIVELY WORKING ON IT.
UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T HAVE AN UPDATE PREPARED TONIGHT ON THAT TOPIC.
YES. WHAT HAPPENED FOR THE PUBLIC'S KNOWLEDGE IS WE PUT IT OUT FOR BID AND WE GOT NO RESPONDENTS.
YES. WE'RE LOOKING FOR STRATEGIES LIKE YOU DESCRIBED, BUT I WILL GET BACK TO YOU ON AN UPDATE.
IN THE INTERIM, WE HAVE REACHED OUT, AND MR. MILES ACTUALLY HAD MADE THIS SUGGESTION.
WE APPRECIATE HIS INTEREST IN IT.
SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO PURSUE THAT AS WE'RE ACTIVELY PURSUING THE THE PROJECT.
I'M NOT SURE IN ALL WE STOP WOULD WOULD SUFFICE.
WE'RE ALSO EXPLORING THOSE TWO.
HE SENT THAT INFORMATION TO US AS WELL.
I THINK THAT AND THANK YOU, MR. MILES. I THINK THIS IS AN EXCELLENT LET'S LOOK AT HOW WE CAN IMPROVISE, ADAPT AND OVERCOME, BECAUSE ESPECIALLY BEFORE THE SCHOOL SESSIONS AND WHICH IS IN A FEW MONTHS.
SO I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
NOW THAT WE'VE GOTTEN THAT, MADAM SHERMAN, YOU HAVE ADMINISTRATIVE REPORTS? YES, SIR, I HAVE TWO ITEMS. FIRST IS A REQUEST FOR COUNCIL CONSENSUS FOR A SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING REGARDING OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENTS THAT WOULD BE PROPOSED FOR THURSDAY, AUGUST THE 8TH AT 6 P.M..
I GUESS YOU NEED A CONSENSUS ON THAT.
WELL, THANK YOU FOR MAKING AUGUST A VERY BUSY MONTH FOR US.
YOU'RE WELCOME SIR, AND I APOLOGIZE.
REALLY, REALLY DON'T KNOW IF YOU YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE ASKING AT THIS POINT.
YOU GOT A THUMBS UP WITH COUNCILMAN.
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JOHNSON PRETTY FREE IN AUGUST.THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHANGES.
OKAY. AND, DEPUTY MAYOR, YOU CONSENSUS.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR MAKING THE THE DATE.
YOU'RE WELCOME. SO WE'VE GOT AUGUST 6TH AND THEN AUGUST 8TH.
YES, SIR. AGAIN, MY APOLOGIES, BEN.
WE HAVE THE EDC ABOUT COUNCIL OR COMMISSION.
COUNCIL. AND PREVIOUSLY NANCY BUNDT WAS ON ON THAT.
SO I WAS GOING TO REQUEST IF WE COULD APPOINT DANIELLE KROTZ TO THAT.
SHE'S OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIVISION MANAGER.
SHE WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE CHANGE FOR THAT POSITION WITH YOUR PERMISSION.
NEED A MOTION? JUST CONSENSUS.
THANK YOU. SO, DANIELLE, WHAT DO.
IS THAT HOW YOU PRONOUNCE THAT NAME? YES, SIR. THANK YOU.
YES. THANK YOU, DANIELLE, FOR TAKING THIS ON.
THANK YOU. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY COMMENTS.
THANK YOU MA'AM. THANK YOU, MADAM SMITH.
PURSUANT TO SECTION 280 6.0 11, SUBSECTION EIGHT, FLORIDA STATUTES DONOVAN DAVIS VERSUS CITY OF PALM BAY, CASE NUMBER ZERO FIVE 2024 CA028081 I'VE COORDINATED A TIME WHEN COUNSEL WAS AVAILABLE.
THURSDAY, JUNE 27TH, 2024 AT 5:30 P.M..
THIS MEETING SHOULD NOT TAKE MORE THAN 30 MINUTES.
I GUESS WE'LL BE HERE TOMORROW AT 530.
OR AS YOU WOULD THURSDAY, MIGHT AS WELL THROW SOMETHING ELSE.
WOULD YOU LIKE? WE'LL BE HERE THURSDAY.
OH, MASTER CHIEF IS GOING TO HAVE A BALL WITH THAT ONE.
ALL RIGHT. SEEING NOTHING ELSE, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.